WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.719 Let me first off say, Mac, you look terrible. Oh well, 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:07.839 thank Youku, I can pay that right back to you. You look home. 3 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:13.240 I am wearing a this is a feed the Homeless shirt, So yeah, 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.800 isn't it really? Yeah, it's good. Well, you wear in 5 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:22.399 a bland sweatshirt. You're not shaving. Your hair doesn't look great. You 6 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.320 look I might look bad, but you look homeless. So the reason why 7 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:28.600 you look bad is because you've shaved your mustache. You have gone against the 8 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:32.240 family. I would kiss you right on the mouth right now, and you 9 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.520 know tell you that I'm gonna kill you in a couple of days. But 10 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:36.960 you're not gonna be around in a couple of days because you were gonna go 11 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:45.280 to sunny beautiful. There is enough daytime to go around Hawaii. Yeah, 12 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:48.799 I wasn't sure if I wanted that mustache to last in pictures forever, so 13 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.600 I went ahead and shaved it before my trip to Hawaii. But I definitely 14 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.600 don't look better, I'll tell you that. And speaking of us not having 15 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:03.159 you know, sunlight during the day anymore daylight saving day saving time, we 16 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.799 lost art. We were given an hour and it pushes the sunlight towards the 17 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.920 morning as opposed to the end of the day. But what it also does 18 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.799 is for those of us who have young children and animals, pretty much the 19 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:22.719 exact same thing. We are still on the old clock because children do not 20 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.239 accept the extra hour of sleep, and I am just getting up at like 21 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.519 five am every day. And because of when we've jumped back, we lose 22 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.599 like three, two or three more minutes of sunlight every day. It almost 23 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.640 feels like that after a week, even though we only jump back an hour, 24 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:38.959 it feels like we lost two hours of sunlight at the end of the 25 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.000 day, Like I would say, without it being the holiday season, if 26 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:49.879 not for us, for everyone putting up their Christmas trees early, this would 27 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:55.239 be the most depressing time of the year, without a doubt. Who needs 28 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.200 sunlight at six thirty am. You don't need it. I would prefer it 29 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.159 at six thirty because I'll I'll tell you this right now as a father. 30 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:04.000 Can I speak as a father? Sure? Sure you have the floor? 31 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.079 Yes, So my three year old son, it's easier for me to tell 32 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.360 him to stay in bed if it's still dark outside. I can say, 33 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:14.400 hey, it's still dark, we need to be sleeping. But if the 34 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.960 sun is beginning to creep up. He's gonna say, no, daddy, 35 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:20.240 you shut up. Yeah, he doesn't know what he's missing. He sees 36 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.080 the sunlight. There's definitely something going on that he's missing. And here we 37 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:35.360 are, look at me, look at a fucking homeless person. One go 38 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:50.840 three, Yeah, just three. King of Queen Mill Street Entertainment, dime 39 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:57.800 goo and I'm man. And here we are chasing our own tails or swallowing 40 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.599 our own tails. What are we doing with our tails? I don't know, 41 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:07.120 so where a snake. To be clear, that was a leading takeaway 42 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.360 or a leading thought after episode five, but I think we have some pretty 43 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:16.759 pretty firm clarity on that situation after episode six. Yeah, and I'll tell 44 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:21.520 you this right now. So we're gonna talking about Loki season two. And 45 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:28.719 I love the amount of detail, intricacy, foreshadowing that they do in this 46 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:35.599 series. They could have been shorter. The second and third episodes felt like 47 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.800 we wasted a little bit of time, but by the end of episode four, 48 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:44.080 I I was a little confused in the middle of the last three episodes, 49 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.319 but I really liked what we got in the last three. Let me 50 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.360 say this and we'll get into all the nuts and bolts. We'll get into 51 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.879 our hot dog scores, We'll get into our octagon. I'm gonna tell you 52 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.599 this right off the bat. If this was a two and a half hour 53 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.599 movie that came off the back of Loki Season one, I think this would 54 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:05.840 have been the best MCU movie since Endgame. If it was a tight two 55 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:10.719 to copy everyone's taglines for everything ever, well, no, but I gave 56 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.360 Endgame a forty hot dog. I'm not gonna say this is a forty one 57 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.680 dog at whatever it is. You think that if this was tighter, it'd 58 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.959 be better than Guardians three. I think if they made it and like the 59 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:25.800 last three episodes, there's a heavy focus on Loki. So if there was 60 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.800 the heavy focus on Loki, if they tightened the first three episodes into say 61 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.319 forty five minutes, and then they gave us that great ending, I think 62 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.959 this would have been better than Guardians three. Yes, okay, And to 63 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:38.920 be clear, Goo and I are pretty high on Loki season one. We 64 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.879 had love Loki season one MCU show. We both have it in our top 65 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:46.759 tens. I think too on MCU overall, So we are pretty high on 66 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.360 this property in general. And that's that's a conversation actually we could have right 67 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:55.000 now. Goo. So Loki season two is TV fourteen rated show out on 68 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:00.439 Disney Plus right now, Goo. This is in fact the forty first into 69 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.759 the MCU and the ninth season of television that we've had in the MCU. 70 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:09.839 But how should we treat it too, because technically it's still under the Loki 71 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:14.079 umbrella. Yeah, So are retreating season one and season two differently or is 72 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.680 it all under the same umbrella? I would say all under the same umbrella 73 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.959 because it happens right after the first season. And you could even just look 74 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:25.199 at it as one twelve episode series because they're not going to do a season 75 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:30.240 three. This is for twelve episodes. Like they talk about the snake eating 76 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.480 its own tail. That's how it starts and that's how it ends. It's 77 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:36.839 perfect. Yeah, if you want to go buy letterboxed rules. You can 78 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:42.240 only rate Loki in general. You can't do a season one season two split. 79 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.319 But I almost feel like you could treat this like a sequel to a 80 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.000 movie like we do for most things here and rank it as such. Yeah, 81 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.079 And if this was a sequel to the first season, which it technically 82 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.240 is, it's season two, and the first one was only supposed to be 83 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.800 a series, so like a mini series with the six episodes, but did 84 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:04.240 really well as a sequel to it. Granted, like I don't love all 85 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:10.120 the other characters around Loki. I don't. I'm not attached to them personally. 86 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:15.399 I'll just say I look, I love ob He's a great side character, 87 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:20.839 great comedic relief. Get into LBS. I really like Mobius too, 88 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:27.680 And but you have that space, you know, he's time slipping in episode 89 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.920 one, but then you have the two episodes after that. They're just kind 90 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.680 of meander and we don't really get into the good stuff once again, like 91 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:40.920 the good Loki stuff once again until the final couple episodes. I saved that 92 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:45.040 and you could have Okay, but also like you could have done that, 93 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.879 But you could have done that, let's get the gang back together. That 94 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:54.319 could have been twenty minutes of a movie that I'm sorry, I'm just so 95 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:58.879 excited to talk about a pretty good MCU property. Well, yeah, I'm 96 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.560 trying to figure out how we as a podcast should rate it. You like, 97 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.040 to me, it's a clear continuation of the story and the themes in 98 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:10.519 season one. However, a lot of the movie sequels are as well. 99 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:15.199 Then we do get a pretty satisfying conclusion at the end of season one, 100 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.519 the last episode that would be good with with doing it either way and go. 101 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:23.759 If you compare it to how we talked about the Marvel Netflix stuff, 102 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.240 we separated those by season. You're right, you're right, but this one 103 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.639 also feels like the most of a continuation out of all those. Yeah. 104 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.800 To that point, the finale episode in season two is titled the same, 105 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:40.519 trying to say that the last three minutes and you wouldn't let me get a 106 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:46.759 word glorious purpose is season one episode one. I know that we're jumping around 107 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:48.959 a lot here, but the show also I'm time slipping around this episode. 108 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:56.800 Don't mind me. Time keeps on slipping, slipping into huge and also the 109 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:03.360 distant past the guocher. Thank you. This has an incredibly satisfying ending to 110 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.879 me. You know what, Gou, I agree with you. Yeah, 111 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:11.240 Episode five was losing me a little bit as we were time slipping my interest. 112 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.439 Like I just said, Episode five, getting the Gang back together could 113 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:20.160 have been twenty minutes of a movie fifteen minutes of a move a little bit, 114 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:22.959 Yeah, and it confused me a little bit, but episode six, 115 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.279 if my erection was going down, yeah, I got full shubb in episode 116 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:33.399 six. It was. It was both a satisfying confusion for the viewer and 117 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.039 for the character of Loki. I really like closing shot. Okay, so 118 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.960 first off, it felt too strange like at first, but then they had 119 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:46.480 a divergent timeline that went elsewhere and it made it awesome, awesome, And 120 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:52.039 it's like, Hittleston is so good at this character. Like I like looking 121 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.840 back at it, Loki's been around for a very, very long time. 122 00:08:54.879 --> 00:09:00.360 This character has been around for so long, and they've evolved this character so 123 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.840 well. Yeah. We used to talk about how Thorpe probably had the biggest 124 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.360 transformation in the MCU, but it's definitely Loki. Yeah, to the point 125 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.120 of and I don't know if this is his last property, if he'll be 126 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:18.000 in uh Secret Invasion, if he'll be in some but like he's kind of 127 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.360 the lynch pin. Now. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things. 128 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:24.360 So uh, before we jump in the nuts of bolts real quick, we 129 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.559 talked about last week the news dump, the tweet from someone talking about how 130 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:33.320 the MCU is fucked because now they can't use King going forward because of what 131 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.960 happens in the Loki finale. I have two thoughts on that, but I 132 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.840 think that person is so far off because you know, I'll give you I'll 133 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.919 give you half of my thought here. Yeah, this was clearly planned from 134 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.639 the beginning of season one of Loki what they did here. So we got 135 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:54.799 swerved, as MCU viewers hard. We bought so so hard into Kang, 136 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.159 and they had a very clear plan from the beginning, aside from John than 137 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.720 Major's stuff. Now, I think that helps them do a little bit of 138 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.360 a swerve here. And I'm trying to remain as spoiler free as possible, 139 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.120 but they had a very clear thought in mind when they began this series, 140 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.600 and it didn't have anything to do with Jonathan Major's also, Like, I 141 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.440 don't want to spoil, but I don't see how they're fucked with the Kang 142 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:24.679 situation. I guess, so that's we'll save that for yet change what happened 143 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.279 in season one. No, it doesn't. It doesn't change much of anything 144 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.080 other than like one one storyline. But that's it so right, that treat 145 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.919 and that person is a fucking If anything, it makes it more interesting for 146 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.960 sure, it makes it more anything o the nuts and milts as quickly as 147 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.200 possible because I want to get back into this. You know what, this 148 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:48.600 show, although once again whole thing didn't exactly do it for me, very 149 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:54.879 interesting and it almost it didn't have the episode by episode intrigued that say WandaVision 150 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.159 did for me, but by the end it was getting close. Yeah, 151 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.120 we could talk about that coming up in a minute here. So Goo Loki 152 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:05.879 season two is an action adventure in fantasy, and I think we I think 153 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.200 we should just decide to review this separately from season one and rankings. Season 154 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.519 one six episodes, with a total run time of three hundred and twenty three 155 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.360 minutes. That's roughly fifty four minutes an episode, so just under six hours 156 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.639 in between five and six hours of television. Here Goo on Rotten Tomatoes. 157 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.000 Now this is this begins this conversation sort of what you're getting into. Eighty 158 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.519 two percent from the critics, seventy six percent from the audience. Now, 159 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.279 in comparison, season one got a ninety two ninety split overall. This being 160 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.960 the ninth season of MCU television, this is the third worst audience score and 161 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.919 I do not agree at all. I think the audiences just kind of soured 162 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.840 on these properties. I think that's I think that's all it is. That's 163 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.279 that's one hundred percent what it is for reference, Loki season one ninety percent, 164 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.679 Hawkeye eighty nine percent, Moonnight eighty nine percent, WandaVision eighty eight percent, 165 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.799 Falcon and Window Soldier at eighty two percent. Above this is Crazy Miss 166 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:01.519 Marvel eighty percent. I sort of get, but I like that more than 167 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.559 most. And then of course you have the two the bottom dwells their Secret 168 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.679 Invasion at forty eight percent and She Hulk at thirty two go on Metacritic. 169 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.799 They're sort of echoing the same thing that the audience is saying. So I 170 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.720 think it's just a general fatigue here. This has a sixty five season one 171 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.320 out of seventy four, which ranks third amongst the nine uh Miss Marvel seventy 172 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.480 eight, one Division seventy seven, Falcon and Winters Soldier also seventy four, 173 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:30.399 and then the bottom three other than this are oh, actually Moonnight at nice 174 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.039 sixty nine, if She Hulk sixty seven, Hawkeye sixty six, both of 175 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.879 those above this Secret Evasion sixty three. So I think it's clear that there's 176 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:43.039 a general fatigue from everyone. Well I can not us though I'll also say 177 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:48.360 that, like I wasn't really all in on the Sylvie story, I wasn't 178 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.279 all in on the Rent Layer story. Uh. The Miss Minute stuff was 179 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:58.240 intriguing, but also didn't really do anything by the end. So like there 180 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.600 is they two try and give you other characters, but the focus on Loki 181 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.759 is really where it's at. I agree with you. I do feel like 182 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:07.960 now I sort of forgave it the first couple episodes, but I do feel 183 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.600 like Sylvie's wasted most of this season, and as meaningful as Miss Minutes and 184 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.240 Wrens Layer are early on, there's no real payoff at the end of that 185 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.159 for those. Only payoff that you get is a story that Mobias tells at 186 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.960 the end once again that great story though it's a great tie back that's all, 187 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.200 yeah, but also builds out those two characters in their relationship a little 188 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:37.000 bit more, which I very much. Also very just upsetting ending with Mobias 189 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.399 for me, just like a like a tear upsetting not a tear, But 190 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.000 like, as I think about it, it gives me It's not the shivers, 191 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.360 what the fuck are the shivers? I'm not Cold Mac. But it's 192 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.440 one of those things where it's like like a yeah, like I would hate 193 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.679 we'll do and spoilers bring it backup in spoilers because I don't get anything away 194 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.039 put a pin in the Mobius. I'm gonna put it in the notes. 195 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:05.279 This show is created by Michael Waldron. He also, of course did season 196 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.159 one, so a continuation there since season one. Goo. He was one 197 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.960 of the two writers on MultiVersus Madness, which obviously didn't go all that well. 198 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.480 He was notable. He worked on Rick and Morty. He's a production 199 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.320 sister assistant on Community. I think that's how Figy kind of brought him into 200 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.080 this fold. He also wrote the show in the two years Heels, which 201 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.039 has done pretty well and going forward. Goo. Waldron is signed on to 202 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.720 do the untitled Figgy Star Wars project, which was announced. Yeah, he's 203 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.559 not doing it. He's not doing it anymore. FIGI said he's out on 204 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.159 Star Wars. Fig He's out. Yeah, well said his Star Wars thing 205 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.960 has not happened, okay. Waldron is still attached to it on IMDb, 206 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:46.039 so there are no more Star Wars movies. Get over it. Mac Waldron 207 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.679 is also attached Goo which is very interesting and we can talk about this and 208 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.919 spoilers Avengers Secret Wars. So again, I think they had a very clear 209 00:14:54.960 --> 00:15:00.960 plan going through this series, separate from the Jonathan major stuff. New writer 210 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.240 brought on for this season, separate from season one, had nothing to do 211 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:09.000 with season one, at least credits wise. Eric Martin who co created and 212 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.679 wrote Heels with Waldron and also worked with Waldron on Rick and Morty and Community, 213 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.200 so obviously a writing partner. Let me ask you, do you think 214 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.559 this season is funnier than season one? I don't know. It attempts to 215 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.600 be bringing into the mix definitely helps. And then there was some real hijinks 216 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.440 at the beginning of the finale which I actually kind of like, yeah, 217 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:33.960 and situation episode three is very uh, it's kind of goofy, it's kind 218 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.480 of silky, yeah, yeaheh. I agree. Waldron also gets a credit 219 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.759 on four or five of the episodes, and Catherine Blair does three or four 220 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.720 of the episodes as well. Goo The four best episodes of the season were 221 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.840 one, four, five, and six. Those episodes were all directed by 222 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.440 the same people, Aaron Moorehead and Justin Benson. The other two episodes had 223 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.240 two new directors. I don't think it's the director's fault that those episodes are 224 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.679 probably the two worst. It's just a I think it's just a filler. 225 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.279 I think that's just how they decided to tell the story, that's all I 226 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.960 agree. Also to note here, gou Now, I don't remember if this 227 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.600 was the case for season one, but Tom Hiddleston is now an executive producer 228 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.720 on this show, which obviously is a is a. I think that's how 229 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.279 you keep these guys coming back, is Look, we're losing a lot of 230 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:21.360 the original characters. I think he is someone that you want to try and 231 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.360 keep around for as long as possible. I agree with the transformation of this 232 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.840 character and what he probably means going forward. It's worth keeping him around, 233 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.720 and he's been phenomenal doing but also how he can transition this entire universe into 234 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:38.200 other characters and what this character can now do, Like, yeah, that's 235 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:45.679 a really interesting story to be told, for sure, And because because they've 236 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:51.279 built him up from villain to anti hero to quasi hero, we're rooting for 237 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.679 it too, so it's really weird how that will play in but also hero 238 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:00.000 but also someone that could slip back into doing some bad stuff. Yeah, 239 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.919 there's potential for that as well, no doubt, gu. Because this season 240 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.279 is still attached season one, there's no synopsis to be found, So I 241 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.559 wrote a little can you make up some words and tell me gu synopsis. 242 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.079 Loki must deal with the fall of Sylvie, killing he who remains in the 243 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:21.359 season one finale branch, timelines and variants are jeopardizing the TVA, the Sacred 244 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:25.079 timeline, and the very existence of Loki himself. I thought that's a decent 245 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:29.119 enough summation of what goes on here, Gou. This show stars Tom Hitelson 246 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:33.759 as Loki, Sophia Di Martino as Sylvie, Owen Wilson as Mobius, Wound, 247 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.079 me Mosaku as Hunter B fifteen, who plays a much bigger role in 248 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.759 this season than she did in season one, Googu and Batha Ra as Ravana 249 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:45.559 Renslayer, Eugene Cordero as Casey, who also plays a bigger role tars Strong 250 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.119 is miss minutes, they introduced Keihu Kwan as Obi Oborias I believe his name 251 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:56.039 was Jonathan Major's returns as He who remains and also plays Victor timely obviously the 252 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.039 same character, but variants Raphael Cassol as Brad Wolf slash Hunter x five, 253 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:06.359 and Kate Dickey another notable character here as General Dos sees the character that is 254 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.039 still trying to play out he who remains his plan in the middle of the 255 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.319 season. There, So any thoughts before we get into the octagon. I 256 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:17.640 think we've already kind of gotten into our spoiler free thoughts as we've really tipped 257 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:22.559 into possibly spoiling. Yeah, the only thing I'll say is it's hard to 258 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.400 review this on the whole, so I think keeping it separate is the way 259 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.359 to go. So let's do that fun factor. How fun was this show? 260 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:36.039 And like I've kind of mentioned, I think the journey with Loki was 261 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.839 the funnest part. Yeah, there's not a ton of fun in here. 262 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.799 However, seeing him jump back and slip to places is kind of fun. 263 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:49.440 And also I think just a built in science fiction thing when you're talking about 264 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.759 like science that we don't understand is kind of fun. And then every time 265 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.480 Keihu Kwan's involved is fun. So there's like fun throughout, but it's not 266 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:03.880 outright fun factor. And like I mentioned earlier, I was I was really 267 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.720 satisfied by this ending, and I also like I said, I would like 268 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.480 to see more of this character, but if this is the last time we 269 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.160 see him, I'm okay with it. I just want more. I agree 270 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.559 with you, and I was a little down on this show after the end 271 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.759 of episode five. I didn't know what we we were gonna get. And 272 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.400 I'll tell you, I was very satisfied by the conclusion of this show for 273 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:32.519 a multitude of reasons, but the main one is where the low key character 274 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:34.359 is left off, and that final shot I thought was great. I thought 275 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:37.920 it was awesome. Borometer. Yes, it does tick quite a bit, 276 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:45.319 but they also were laying down so many layers of the foreshadowing. Everything that 277 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.880 they have in the TVA is done with so much detail, and if you 278 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.599 pay attention to all of it, I'm sure it's telling us more stories. 279 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.519 It's more Easter eggs. Go and check out new rock Stars. I'm sure 280 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.960 they have some great breakdowns of that. That's not what we're here for. 281 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:00.359 No, No, I have all that. But yeah, there was a 282 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.759 little bit of bore. Yeah, I agree. Episodes two, three, 283 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.119 and a little bit of four, when we're trying to figure out where it's 284 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.160 going and they're spending a lot of time with Timely and way back when there 285 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:17.160 was there was some boar there for sure Halloween well our interest Wyne over time 286 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:21.599 and actually after I finished this season. So I finished it last night and 287 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.880 I've been thinking about it a lot the last couple hours. My wife still 288 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:30.680 has not seen Loki Season one. I want to restart the series and watch 289 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.839 it all over again with her, Like now, I think that'd be pretty 290 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.960 cool having them run together instead of taking you know, two years off whatever 291 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.519 there was between here. It's always it's almost always like a wait and see 292 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.240 with the MC at this point for Halloween, like this could mean more, 293 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.440 could mean less. I have a feeling it's gonna mean a lot going forward, 294 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.279 So I don't really feel like it's gonna wayne Ween Pants Tent City, 295 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.759 Excite bike Mania. What got you going from this show? I feel like 296 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:03.720 the show was lacking a big pants tent moment until the finale, and we 297 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.240 got one in the finale, at least in my eyes. When you see 298 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.559 that Loki character taking those steps in that tape form, all right, stop 299 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.880 it stops. I thought that was fucking awesome. I will say, though, 300 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.960 I think the pants Tent the excite bike Mania of season one might have 301 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:25.000 been a little bit higher because there was so much intrigue of what could happen 302 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.079 after that. But this was very, very sad that whole because of the 303 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:30.240 way it was set up and the cheese behind it. I felt like the 304 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.680 whole season one finale was a pants tent. That's not the case here, 305 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:38.319 but it did reach a decent pants t Max credit Union. Who are you 306 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:42.160 giving credit to? I? You know, it's hard to give it to 307 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:47.880 anyone, but Tom Hiddleston is Loki because he really carries his show. It's 308 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.119 like a I don't know how to just it's it's like an O seven Caves 309 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:55.279 thing. It's Lebron and a bunch of not so good players and it's it's 310 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:59.240 sort of what's happening here. The other characters are decent. I love O 311 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.680 b I love, but meaningfully it's just Loki. Sylvie doesn't do much, 312 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.759 you know. Actually Majors is King or Major's is timely I really like as 313 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:15.000 well, But it's so heavily Loki centric that he really is putting up a 314 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.000 Lebron like effort here, especially in that final episode. Yeah, that final 315 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:23.880 episode is it's so fun factor Actually, that's really fun. That final episode 316 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:27.799 is really fun, great episode. I'd also like to give credit once I 317 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.799 know I've been saying, you know, I don't love a couple of these 318 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:36.119 episodes here. It could have been tighter. But what they do of building 319 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:40.000 out the TVA, what they do of putting all these Easter eggs everything else 320 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.079 in there, like, they do deserve credit for that. Yeah, and 321 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:48.319 in the characters in general. Even though it's heavily on Loki for what actually 322 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.759 happens, because Mobius is so likable, because ob is so likable the whole 323 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:56.519 runtime, you're still enjoying what you're watching. And like, miss minutes had 324 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.319 me really intrigued for a very short amount of time. That's true. Well, 325 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:06.079 yeah, just like me a couple of minutes that I'm done. For 326 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:07.960 those of you tardy to the Mac and Goo party, we rate everything on 327 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:12.119 a forty hot dog rating system and Mac, like I've already said, I 328 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.519 would have loved a tighter two and a half hour movie. I think this 329 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:22.119 would have been from start to finish, almost perfect from what you got from 330 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.880 season one. But I do feel like they meandered a bit in the first 331 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:29.839 half of the season. But it does all come to I think a great 332 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.160 conclusion, especially if this is the last time we see Loki or if we 333 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.839 get more out of this character. It's really open ended. It could go 334 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:40.480 either way. I'm kind of fine either way with it. But the evolution 335 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.920 of this character, Hittleston as this character I love. So I'm at thirty 336 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:52.200 four hot dogs, but I could be pushed to thirty five motherfucker uh or 337 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.000 just seemingly in the same rage these days go. So I'm right on that 338 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.640 thirty three to thirty four line here. You if we're treating it as just 339 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.279 the one season seven from season one, I think I got it thirty three, 340 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.599 thirty four. I could be talked up thirty four in that like twenty 341 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.880 five to twenty seven range, but maybe it's up a little higher than that. 342 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:12.519 I'd have to reassess all that if you want to. If you're a 343 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.839 listener at home saying no counted, it all is one if you fold it 344 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.039 into the first season of Loki. If you combine and say thirty three and 345 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.680 thirty seven, which is what I have the first season at, it's a 346 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.680 thirty five, and that drops Loki from ninth on my list to like the 347 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.039 thirteen to eighteen range. That's all thirty five. But if I guess, 348 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.799 if I do give it thirty four, if I do give it thirty four 349 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.359 instead of thirty three, you could argue it in the top twenty. It's 350 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.640 just it's it's there is a little bit of a bore, and I don't 351 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.079 think i've I was let down by the end of the season. I'm let 352 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:52.880 down with what Sylvie means though it seems like that's my major gripe as so, 353 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.279 Sylvie's the lynchpin for season one and she's pretty meaningless in season two. 354 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.480 I mean she he does push him towards what he does. Yeah, but 355 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.599 so do the other six characters. You know, they're all sort of one 356 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:11.519 Yeah, Ross, Rachel, Joey, Channlrmonica, Phoebe. They all push 357 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.720 Loki did this in honor of Chandler. I know this has nothing to do 358 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.599 with the show Loki, but I keep thinking about Paul Rudd telling the story 359 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.079 of when Friends wrapped, and he kept on going up to people that had 360 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.960 been there for like two hundred and twenty five episodes. He's like, guys, 361 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:32.200 we did it, and he was on like thirteen episodes. I loved 362 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.440 that he was, so I actually read a little fun fact because all these 363 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:40.720 friend stuff has been coming out after Chandler passed his character of Mike. Yeah, 364 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.319 was only supposed to be in a couple episodes, but the writers loved 365 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:47.920 him so much that that's where they made phoebe Mary because originally she was supposed 366 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.799 to marry the Hanks Area characters. Oh okay, name, I forget, 367 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.799 but I love that that everyone just loves Paul Rudd, that he's inevitable. 368 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.680 Is it my turn for a friend's fun fact? Yeah? Go, I've 369 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:03.240 been watching Talk showed me this is Matthew Perry had a Batman room in his 370 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:08.599 house. Oh okay, so is Matthew Perry going up your friend's rankings based 371 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:14.200 on I think? So he had a full room that was wall to wall 372 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.680 batman statues. Oh statues, Yeah, Like he has statues in cases, 373 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.759 like glass cases, like big built out batman's. He even said he was 374 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.920 like, yeah, people don't know what to get me anymore, so they 375 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.960 just get me batman shit. It's sort of like you yeah, mey, 376 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.480 you at you that and turtles. So yeah, a little lesser of a 377 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.799 Batman guy, but I respect that, all right. Max Shall we start 378 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.279 spoiling spoilers. Okay, so let me get into the Mobiust thing for a 379 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:48.839 second. His character ends with so he goes back where he was kind of 380 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:55.359 taken from and he watches he's able to now let time pass and he essentially 381 00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:00.720 gets to watch himself raise his kids. So there's a moment in this in 382 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.480 episode five. And now I don't think Moby's does Mobias remember jumping back? 383 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.160 I don't know, it's I guess that's not even worth talking about. But 384 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.599 in the after part of the finale, it's it's it's not even a post 385 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.640 credit, it's uh, just a part of the show. It's a part 386 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.799 of the Yeah, that's sort of an epilog prolog whatever the one that is 387 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.400 that comes at the end. That's a nice big log. We see Mobias 388 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.160 go back to see what his life was on the Sacred Timeline. Yeah, 389 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.440 and he's sort of longing for it. I don't I don't know if he 390 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.880 has regret. No, but he's no. I think he no. I 391 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.680 think he does quite a bit because all right, may I speak as a 392 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:40.240 father real quick. I know that you can't comprehend this, But if I 393 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:45.359 had to watch myself raise my son. I feel like that would be really 394 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.119 difficult. Well, so I don't think he stays there, no, But 395 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.680 I'm just like, but even if he sends a little bit of time there, 396 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.119 he's gonna let some time pass. Yeah, but if I had to 397 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.720 watch myself and then critique what I was doing, like, that's it's tough. 398 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.880 Well, part of it too, is he's been with the TVA for 399 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.599 so long, Yeah, that time is no longer a construct for him. 400 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:11.759 So he hasn't experienced time passing really ever until he goes back onto the Sacred 401 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:17.119 Timeline to watch what his life was. Yeah, so I think he's also 402 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:22.400 trying to wrap his mind around time as a construct because all of these TVA 403 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.599 characters don't experience time at all. They're the same always. So that's like 404 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:32.000 a whole underneath layer that the show deals with a little bit. But when 405 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.599 you really think about that, that's pretty fucked up. Episodes one, two, 406 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:40.440 and three. First episode we're dealing with the time slipping. He's going 407 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.440 back with his original characters, he's learning more about the TVA. But then 408 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:52.359 episode two we get the pruning of the branches, and I feel like episodes 409 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.160 one, two, and three of Loki getting back to the TVA, the 410 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.200 pruning of the branches, and then us going to get Timely. That's a 411 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.680 very good start to a movie. That's a very good forty minutes of a 412 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.720 movie. Good first act. Yeah, I agree, I agree with you. 413 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.640 It's just it just went on a little too long. And then once 414 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.440 we get like towards the episode three, episode three into episode four, and 415 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.599 they they're getting into like saving the Loom. Yeah, in Timely's technology marrying 416 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:25.839 with OB's, it gets a little muddy down. And also so then you 417 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:32.319 get to episode five and it gets confusing because now you're getting into what you 418 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.079 were talking about at the beginning, the snake eating its tail? So does 419 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.720 Obe and Loki create the TVA? Like it's all cyclical and you don't now 420 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:45.200 Loki has created the TVA, and you can't really point to who's doing what 421 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.079 and what what means what? And and then they're also trying to and I 422 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.720 think it does land at the end. But in episode five, it's like, 423 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.960 look, he just wants friends, and you're like, all right, 424 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:02.799 he wants to watch friends, Like his motivation is that he just wants his 425 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.119 friends at the TVA to be all right, kind of. And I don't 426 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.720 know if I really buy an episode five, but by episode six I think 427 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.920 I do. But it gets muddy down a little bit for sure, and 428 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.960 then you get into the all the science fiction stuff and the technology and you 429 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.279 just sort of don't get it. But what I did like, and it's 430 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.480 something that at least I figured was gonna happen from the jump. When Loki 431 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.799 starts time something, you know, at some point he's gonna be able to 432 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.880 grasp that, yeah, and master it and make it an ability. So 433 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:36.200 that's what happens in episode five. He jumps into the timelines of all everyone 434 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.599 at the TVA and figures out where they've been, and we find out ob 435 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.000 is a science fiction writer as well as a professor, and his at home 436 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:49.000 workshop basically resembles his TVA workshop. I like the parallels there. We find 437 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:53.359 out Mobius is a father of two and a jet Ski salesman, and he 438 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.759 just lives a pretty normal life. Either of two sons, much like how 439 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.720 he could not take out one of the kids, who then kills five thousand 440 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:06.400 people. Yes yep, and is also parallels there, with Loki and Thor 441 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.920 being the two sons of Odin. We find out Casey is essentially Frank Lee 442 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.799 Morris, who is the Clint Eastwood character from Escape from Alcatraz based on a 443 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.960 true story Escape from Alcatraz. That was I don't know. That was like 444 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.039 that was almost a shark jumping moment for me. It was kind of annoying 445 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:27.559 too, And there is I did steal it. We find out B fifteen 446 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:32.960 is like a doctor pediatrician, which is I don't really care for that either, 447 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.920 So that that's what I'm talking about. Like episode five was sort of 448 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.480 I was coming down. The Chubb was becoming a quarter chub instead of a 449 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:45.759 half chubb. It also felt like Sylvie. By episode five, we really 450 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.880 feel like Sylvie's being wasted because I don't really understand her motivations anymore. What 451 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.920 does she want? Does she just want to live? She wants freedomymous the 452 00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:00.519 timeline she wants, she wants yes from everything being determined for that. She 453 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.240 wants to live in an anonymous life. But in order to do that, 454 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.920 she now has to save the TVA. So that's her motivation and that's why 455 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.240 she does not want a sacred timeline. That's why she does not want the 456 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:15.200 pruning and bringing back to what he who remains had and episode five is so 457 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:21.079 heavy on character stuff in building out our characters, but it really lacks Rens 458 00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.519 Slayer and Miss Minutes. We don't get either of them in this episode. 459 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.319 But I will say in episode six, when he barges in the doors like 460 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.759 I need that guy, that was actually a really funny response by them. 461 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.279 I'm like, oh, yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. My takeaway 462 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.000 from episode five, before we get into the finale, it felt like, 463 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.039 and now starting to the internet stuff was chatter starting to get to me a 464 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.440 little bit. It felt like this season was simply in place to save the 465 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.440 temporal Loom so that the TVA could stay in place for a Deadpool of three. 466 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.720 Now I don't feel like that anymore, but coming away from episode five, 467 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.079 that's what I felt like this was. It felt like this was serving 468 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.720 a purpose for Deadpool. Now I no longer feel right, but now that 469 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:06.079 is the god of stories. He is, Loki who remains that pretty much 470 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.039 now tells me that by him taking all these new timelines that he has control 471 00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.640 of and he can tell his own stories in, that's where the Mutants come 472 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.720 from, That's where the Fantastic Four come from. He's taken all these new 473 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:24.000 timelines that Sylvie created and he's kept them alive. Yeah, I guess that's 474 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:29.160 essentially what happens at the end here, And I don't know. I'm sure 475 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.680 there's gonna be like a poisoning moment for his character to be not so good 476 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.480 anymore, but we'll get to that in a second. So the finale Glorious 477 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.279 Purpose again the same title as the first episode from season although sorry, just 478 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.160 to stop you for one second. I would love and I'm still we're not 479 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.720 sure if Hemsworth is still here, if he's done with it, but I 480 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:52.279 would love to just see really quick Loki and Thor back on the screen together, 481 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.720 real quick, just so that Thor can be proud of his brother and 482 00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.880 who he's turned into. Yeah, do you think there's gonna be a moment 483 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:07.079 down the line where they're gonna free Loki from that from that burden. I'm 484 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.639 not sure. But I also really thought in this episode there was gonna be 485 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.280 a quick jump back to when he was on Asgard, like a quick thing 486 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:21.079 of maybe him with his family. Yeah, okay, I that there was 487 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.280 definitely a moment because he kept jumping back further and further, But then he's 488 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.800 like, no, I gotta go do my job. I think though, 489 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.639 that is the difference between twenty twelve Loki and the Loki that dies in Infinity 490 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.400 War. That's probably the difference right there. So we start the finale jumping 491 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.360 back to Timely Sacrifice, and we get a whole Groundhog Day type of thing, 492 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.840 and now Loki is fully mastered the time slip, but once again it 493 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.960 does resemble the Dormamu scene of Doctor Strange going back and forth over and over 494 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.440 again. And we even get all this green magic, which is much like 495 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:58.320 obviously the Ayavagamoto, so that at first I'm like, oh, this is 496 00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.400 cool, but we've kind of seen this, but then they go further. 497 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.840 Yeah. And on top of that, the main difference once we get to 498 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:09.639 episode six is he's no longer jumping his body into the time and place. 499 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:14.559 So there's two Lokis. He's jumping into the Loki's body from that time and 500 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.280 place, yes, which is a massive improvement from the time slipping, which 501 00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:22.440 is obviously how this whole episode plays out. We see, like the Timely 502 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.519 stuff, they actually make it work, but it doesn't actually work, and 503 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.400 then we get Loki jumping back to the season one episode. Yes, the 504 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.679 season one finale where him and Sylvia are fighting and you get sort of another 505 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.760 Groundhog Day moment, but then you get a really cool scene which is sort 506 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:43.840 of another pants tent. Here King realizes that Loki's time slipping and he finally 507 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.320 stops him and they have a great, great conversation, great dialogue, great 508 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.480 scene. Yeah, and Loki does not want to kill Sylvie. He just 509 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:55.800 wants to convince her diplomacy to not kill this variant or not kill He Who 510 00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.199 Remains, and that's when you know, he slips and he's like, he's 511 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:01.760 like, look, everything that happens, it's just going to happen, and 512 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.719 I don't mind being killed. Reincarnation. Yeah, and I think we sort 513 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.400 of forgot about this because they make it pretty clear in season one that this 514 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:15.920 temporal Loom is just in place to protect He Who Remains and really no one 515 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.880 else, So just that one timeline, the sacred timeline, and that Loom 516 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.840 is just protecting He who Remains, And maybe we knew that as audience members 517 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:30.440 and viewers, but Loki finally realizes that in this episode. So he's fighting 518 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.400 a losing battle and he has a great line in here he goes, I'll 519 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.119 change the equational. Well, yeah, he looks at a giant whiteboard and 520 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.599 he's like, how do you like those apples? So then he slips back 521 00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:47.679 into his original TVA like intake interview with Mobias from the beginning of season one, 522 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.880 and Mobius is talking about the big picture and another great quote. Mobias 523 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.400 says, most purpose is more burden than glory, and Loki is realizing there's 524 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.000 no glory at the end of this story for me, at least not at 525 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.679 the moment. It's it's gonna be a burden to do what I have to 526 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.440 do. So then Loki slips back into the timely sacrifice, you know, 527 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.360 that time and place, and he goes out there and starts, you know, 528 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.280 sort of doing this like yeah, yeah, this great little walk. 529 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:22.119 A lot of the colors are kind of like the Byfrost Yeah, true. 530 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.760 And there's a great shot of him walking on this Byfrost type bridge where his 531 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.960 cloak or his disguise is getting wiped away and the horns and the cape are 532 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.840 coming back. And then it continues when he explodes the loom, when he 533 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.480 rips open the loom, which I thought was cool. All these branches almost 534 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:43.920 come to life and look less science fiction ing and look more like alive and 535 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.719 like they're like moving more. And he grabs on to one of these branches 536 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.519 and they look like they're dying, and he uses some green Loki magic and 537 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.519 like ignites it, reinvigorates it, and he does that with all these branches 538 00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:00.639 as he's walking along, and there's a really cool shot of the branches becoming 539 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.280 one with Loki's cape, which is fucking so cool looking. Now, I 540 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.239 bet that's probably straight out of the comics. We obviously haven't read the comics, 541 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:12.000 but that's really cool and it's a really cool visual and it seems like 542 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.519 we're getting this god of stories Loki, right. Yeah. And there were 543 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.320 a couple really good lines in the like one liners in the last couple episodes 544 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.360 where like Sylvie telling Loki we aren't gods and Loki pausing, no, we 545 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.320 are gods, right, and like and you're like, oh, he's forget 546 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.119 that. Sometimes he's gonna do something godly here. And then the glorious purpose, 547 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.920 all that stuff like that it fed in really well. Yep. And 548 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.239 then they have this great shot of Loki sitting on the throne closing in close 549 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:44.280 on his eyes, and then it flips to show that it's no longer left 550 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.880 to right, up and down and it looks like a roots of a tree, 551 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.760 and then branches of a tree, which is much more optimistic and less 552 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:59.559 Cain killer. I could be wrong. Is that an as Guardian like logo 553 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:01.639 symbol thing too? I'm not sure. I'm not sure either. I'm not 554 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.719 gonna say that it is. I'm just thrown out there or like it might 555 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.400 be. So then it cuts to the after this epilogue pro I think it's 556 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:13.079 epilogue, sorry, before the epilogue, before the before your big log at 557 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:16.320 the end here. I also, I think the funniest part of this series 558 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.880 might have been when he was time slipping and finishing people's sentences. Yeah, 559 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.039 and like, let's let's try this again, and Moby's like again, yeah, 560 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:30.320 I get what. I really liked the shot two of them watching Loki 561 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.239 as send and they're all in the shadows. Yeah, so you just see 562 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.280 the outlines of them. That was a great shot. The cinematography and the 563 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.880 last like fifteen minutes of the show was fucking phenomenal. So we get to 564 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:45.960 this after part and again instead of left to right the loom now goes bottom 565 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.920 top top bottom, however you want to say it, but it resembles a 566 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:52.360 tree branches and roots. And now Miss Minutes is helping, is Miss Minutes 567 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:57.159 over king, and he who remains has she been reset? I don't know. 568 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.920 That's that's a question that is remaining to be, so that could play 569 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:06.480 into it. And then you have B fifteen asking Mobius any king variants? 570 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:10.039 Do any king variance know we exist yet? And he references the Quantumedia King. 571 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.679 Yes, that gut gets taken care of. We see ob with the 572 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.519 second edition TVA Guidebook, which does not make it into the hands of victim 573 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.440 timely, so they cut off the timely timeline. He no longer means what 574 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.039 he was supposed to mean. Then we see Rens Slayer in the pruned world, 575 00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:30.679 and it looks like that's where Aloith still is. There's no real clarification 576 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.480 there is. She just destined to remain there forever. Maybe she's done, 577 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.039 who knows. Of course, we talked about Mobius going to see what his 578 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.000 life was like, and it seems like Sylvia, I guess, can just 579 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.079 relax and bop around as she seems fit. Yeah, I mean Loki's in 580 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.639 charge now, she can do whatever. It just seems Sylvie's wasted now, 581 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.760 which is a bummer because I don't I don't think she ever, Like would 582 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.199 she come back in a in one of the Avenger movies coming out. I 583 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.679 don't think she thinks, so I don't think she would. But Loki looks 584 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:02.800 at peace here goo in the after. It looks like he's he knows it's 585 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.000 a burden, but he looks at peace, which I think is a pretty 586 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.400 fitting end for this character, at least for now. Maybe there's a to 587 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.920 be continued Oku. What I want to get to is in reference to that 588 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.360 tweet talking about King and how the MC's fucked now. Number one, where 589 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.039 are we left with King? What do you think happens with King going forward? 590 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.760 Because obviously Timely doesn't become the central character that he was, but there 591 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.679 are still King variants out there that we're worried about, or at least the 592 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.760 TVA is worried about. So I think that they're still going to play a 593 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.920 part. But their job now is just to keep track of these guys, 594 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:40.400 okay, because to me, it seems like their endgame was Loki becoming God 595 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.079 of Stories. All along, so they are not fucked with a swerve from 596 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:50.840 King to something else here. In fact, I felt like, now you 597 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.440 know, with with having step stepping back and seeing what this was, King 598 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.760 was really a great foil for Loki and making Loki whole through this series. 599 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.199 And I don't mind at all that they're swerving from King because the King build 600 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.639 up came from the Loki show, like it's it's it's sort of. It 601 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.039 doesn't mean matter all that much to me, and it does truly open up 602 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.559 the MCU to a villain like doctor Doom. And that's not because they have 603 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.079 to swerve to King. It's intentional. I think this Kang stuff was all 604 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.840 intentional to get located to where he needed to be, and now this opens 605 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.159 it up to a Doom like Villa. I also think this doesn't kill like 606 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.320 that. If you want to do more with King, you can still do 607 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.119 more Ken. Yeah, for sure, It's just that whoever tweeted that, 608 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.159 whoever got that info to that, who a person who tweeted it is a 609 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.239 moron. There's two because this was so clearly planned. If they had done 610 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.800 it, where Loki kills Sylvie so that she does not kill he who remains. 611 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.559 Then you can be like, wait, are we shifting back towards this 612 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.440 one? Right? That would have been lazy. That's the ending of season 613 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.199 one still happened, Yeah, one hundred percent. Like that's I don't know 614 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.679 what people are missing here like it. I mean, maybe they're disappointed they 615 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.119 don't get to see some king variants battle it out, but that might still 616 00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.039 happen. Yeah, there's still a lot on the table. To me, 617 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.960 this is a better conclusion to anything I had thought up or anything that this 618 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:14.440 was. Maybe you didn't write a better ending. No, this is better 619 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.039 than anything I had pictured, even though it was teased a little bit, 620 00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:22.280 you know, New rock Stars was talking about God of Stories and whatnot, 621 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.760 but I didn't know what that character is. So I just really like where 622 00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:30.320 this show leaves looking in the characters and the MCU. The MCU is wide 623 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.800 open for the taking. And of course Loki's I guess in charge of everything. 624 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.639 He's at the end of time sort of stuff. But I don't know 625 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.440 how much he can affect things now. I hope he can. I hope 626 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.599 he can. So I give this season thirty four. Season one with a 627 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.960 thirty eight overall. Loki the twelve episodes thirty six. Yeah, I might 628 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.519 be a tig below you there a twitch? Is that? None of those 629 00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.440 in the words looking now stop. I think I'm thirty three to thirty four 630 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.639 this season. I can't. Maybe it'll lean thirty four after I'm thinking about 631 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:13.559 it more. I just really like where it ends. Let's get into and 632 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.199 MAXXAC could be anything. It could be a boat and Mac. First off, 633 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:22.039 I have yet to see the Marvels. I'll be seeing that over the 634 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.599 weekend. We'll talk about that next goosday. By the way, and we 635 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.840 talked about this too. This is the first MCU property movie wise that I 636 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:36.800 have not seen, either Opening Night or sooner since twenty fifteen. Yeah, 637 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:38.440 I don't know what it is for me, but it's been a long long 638 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.719 time for me. That's a little I'm a little disappointed with the higher ups 639 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.599 there that are in charge of getting us to those spots well, But I 640 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.079 still I'm optimistic on what the Marvels is gonna do. And I already know 641 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.840 what the post credit is because it's been leaked for fucking three weeks. But 642 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.639 I'm intrigued as to who's gonna be left going forward. Here we haven't seen 643 00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:10.360 Monica Rambau and what is Miss Marvel's Kamala Khan. Kamala Khan. We haven't 644 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.719 seen them on the big screen yet, and I really liked both of them 645 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.480 from their appearances in the MCU prior on the TV side of things, so 646 00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.960 I'm excited to go see it now. I don't think it's going to be 647 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.840 a world beater. I don't think it has forty dog potential, but I 648 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:30.039 don't think it's gonna be bad. So also, the acting strike, the 649 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:35.079 SAG acting strike has come to a conclusion, meaning that things can pick up 650 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.679 with their productions again, and we now have a new MCEU schedule, and 651 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:43.039 of course these are always subject to change, but it's looking like we're only 652 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:49.039 getting one EMCEU movie in the year twenty twenty four, and that might not 653 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.639 be a bad thing. It's gonna be Deadpool three. It's gonna be a 654 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.679 big ten pole movie. What's up? I think it's in May July twenty 655 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.639 sixth I thought I read May the other day. I have it here on 656 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.079 discussing film. Yeah, I think we have this conversation before. I still 657 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.880 think it's May. This was released January than May no, this was released 658 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:09.599 yesterday, so thank you. All right, all right, you know what, 659 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.119 whatever, There's only one movie next year, and I think that might 660 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.480 be a good thing. Give everyone a chance to kind of kill a little 661 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.199 this fatigue off. And you're also giving us one that I think everyone wants 662 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.119 to see. This is beyond just MCU fans, comic book movie fans. 663 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.960 People want to see the Deadpool movie. Yeah, we've got Echo coming out 664 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.920 in January. I don't know what they have planned for the television side of 665 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.639 things, but just Deadpool for a movie next year works twofold number one. 666 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:36.960 They're gonna have to line their ducks up here, the Marvel people, Kevin 667 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:42.599 Faigi do number two. It's gonna give the fans a chance to build more 668 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.679 intrigue. Yeah. When it's when the markets saturated with stuff, you don't 669 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.719 really miss it. Yeah. No, we just get Deadpool next year. 670 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.599 It gets it's gonna give us a chance to miss things. For the most 671 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.400 part is after we've seen one of these movies since the start of Phase four, 672 00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.360 all we're saying is, all right, what's next. Yeah, that's 673 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.199 it. And I think that's maybe why people have fatigue. I still like, 674 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:06.039 I still enjoy watching it. I'm not gonna have anything to watch going 675 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:07.360 for I just want a good story. I just want a nice story. 676 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.760 That's all. I agree with that. And then in twenty twenty five, 677 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.320 after you've had your break, you're gonna get four movies. You're going to 678 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.639 Captain America, four Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts, and Blade. I mean, 679 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.480 those sound like they should all be good. So again, get your ducks 680 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.480 in order, do your Deadpool three, fucking swap the timelines, bring the 681 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.679 X Men in, bring the Fantastic Four in, and just make it work. 682 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:30.920 Do it right, and we're gonna be happy. Keep it right, 683 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:35.079 keep it tight, get it right, get it right, get it all 684 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.079 right. That'll do it for this episode of Mac and Goo. Mac, 685 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.519 Where can the people find us? You can find us on Twitter and on 686 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:44.360 Instagram, at Mac and Goo Podcasts, every other platform. We're Mac ampersanm 687 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:45.920 Gogo, It's Max fIF seven Goo that includes Facebook, Stitch your tune in, 688 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:52.679 Castbuckspreaker, Google Play, I Radio. More importantly, we're on What's 689 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:58.079 the Green One Spotify. We're on Spotify and Apple podcasts. Get on apples 690 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.159 podcasts, Rate review, subscribe five stars if you do that we'll get your 691 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.679 freemack and go t shirt f and the folks over at Watertown Sports where it's 692 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.920 Watertown Sports. We're on thirty four in Watertown, Watertown sportswar dot com expert 693 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:14.440 screen expert, screenprinting and embroidery. Teapublic dot com. The holiday season is 694 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.039 upon us. Go and buy some shirts from tepublic dot com, either Mac 695 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:22.320 and Goose shirts or I think you should leave shirts from the that's a chunky 696 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:30.400 handle. Uh go. We'll be back next week. Yeah with the Marvels. 697 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.440 Yeah, Marbles. And then you gotta fill. I gotta do a 698 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.039 dump or I'll do something stupid. We'll see. No, there's a lot 699 00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.239 of news I want to dump. All right, there you go, all 700 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.199 right, so hit it about popping up uh Tuesdays or goosdays? I abuse 701 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:53.440 kangaroos. Bye. Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue the adventure.