WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:07.639 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:13.599 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure your most Prized Possession. It's 3 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:19.000 kat z R two sad in iHeartRadio station. Good, good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:21.800 Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm 5 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:26.199 Steve Rivera, He's jagan Zaus got our guy Sammy in today. Just want 6 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:29.600 to let you know that it's basketball season, but it's not. It's not. 7 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:34.679 For the first time forever, it's not. People are still talking about 8 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:38.079 football this late in the season, which makes sense that it's a football town. 9 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.200 They are. I again, I've always said that, so yes, 10 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:46.079 but it's it's still football season. A lot of cool things can happen. 11 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.439 I's done some simple mat Steve, That's what you know, and I've got 12 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:53.560 to I still got the headache from that. I'm doing that too, bliss 13 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:57.280 too. Everyone that can still win ten games? Oh yeah with ten games? 14 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.719 Yeah, okay, they can't. Beautiful dream he has they got. 15 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.239 I'm not gonna be ragging anymore because people get on you. You went out 16 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.840 okay, which isn't inconceivable anymore, right, right right, and then you 17 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.840 win your bowl game? Yeah that's ten wins. Okay, Yeah, I 18 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.200 could, I could become even more better looking than I am right now, 19 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:21.200 but that's not gonna say I think. I think. Yeah, Okay, 20 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:26.120 so there's a possibility you and my boy Sammy were oh yeah, dumb and 21 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.280 dumber. They have a chance you get to them. Well, no, 22 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.959 I don't. I don't believe that. Okay, but let's go to the 23 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.439 both. Let's reopen it. So what do you think the chances are that 24 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:42.159 yours happens, that Arizona does give me a percent like eighty five eighty that's 25 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:47.000 gonna win ten games? Yeah? What do you want? Because I think, 26 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.560 honestly, I think the only thing that's in the way is Utah and 27 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.079 that game is here Utah, and then they're gonna win the bowl game. 28 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:56.400 What did I have to win the bull game? I'm eighty five percent? 29 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.599 Did you even get eighty five percent in your classes? At you of a? 30 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:06.319 Well? Why are you asking that to put it in perspective? No? 31 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:08.599 Here, here's you hear me out on this. Okay, you know, 32 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.599 I mean, I think they're gonna crush Colorado, and I think they're 33 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.840 gonna crush ACU, not because they're gonna go out there and put eighty points 34 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:20.919 on the board. Because those teams aren't gonna score right. So I so 35 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:24.560 I think I think those two are wins now at this point. So Utah 36 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:30.000 coming into town, who knows? I you know, I if Arizona beats 37 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.319 the hell out of Colorado this week, I could even see Arizona being favored 38 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:38.599 in that game against Utah. I don't know about that, Joe, what 39 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:43.439 do you like your Okay? I won't dismiss ten games chokes saying that give 40 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:47.680 me a percentage on the ten. I think you have to consider us beating 41 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.680 Utah. Sure it could happen, but then who do we draw on the 42 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:54.159 bowl right to get the tenth win? We don't know who that last opponent's 43 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:59.199 gonna be. If we go to the Holiday Bowl and we have I don't 44 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:01.840 know, ls you, I don't know if that's the thing or something like 45 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.599 that, something like that, A team like a team like that. I 46 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.360 just don't don't see us beating the lsu're like, I'm trying to think 47 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.960 of teams that we could play, like uh, Kansas State, which we 48 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.280 open against them next year, Like Kansas State's a dang good football team, 49 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.719 not to say we're not. It's just we don't know who that last team 50 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.680 is gonna be. So I'll give it a I just think the Utah game 51 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:23.879 is gonna be a lot to handle for us, so I'll give it a 52 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.919 forty five percent change. Let me let me tell you what and where I'm 53 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:32.120 coming from on that ste because I have, up until Saturday, I have 54 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:40.120 continued to believe that this bubble is gonna burst, okay, And Nico's probably 55 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:45.719 gonna call okay because I ran into him and his dad before the game and 56 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:49.280 they asked me, deserves on a win tonight, and I said, no, 57 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:54.080 I didn't because I just I just see Arizona and me keeps thinking they're 58 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:58.039 not gonna win the next one, and they keep winning. He's seen it 59 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:03.000 too much. Yeah, So now at UCLA has finally convinced me that this 60 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:06.159 team is really good. We're you know, they've got three losses, but 61 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.599 when you think about their three losses now in the context of everything else, 62 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.719 you think they shouldn't have three losses, right, And they almost didn't have 63 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:19.160 right. So I'm thinking this is like a this is like a ten and 64 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:24.600 two team, you know, because because you know, they lost two games 65 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.879 that they shouldn't have lost when you think about what they've done since then. 66 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.120 Right, So that's why I'm thinking, Okay, I'm gonna believe now that 67 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.759 they should win their next three games, and if they do that, bring 68 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.199 on whoever you want to bring on in a bout. So you you this 69 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:41.839 is what I know of Jiggins all through the years. You overcorrect, you 70 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:46.680 overcorrect, Okay, in this case, you overmight over correction. This might 71 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.519 be. This is a way over correction. And I don't mind that you're 72 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:53.120 things to ten because it's a good possible. It's a possibility eighty five percent, 73 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:56.160 though forty five is more realistic. It could happen. I don't disagree 74 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.399 with you. Do Utah here, you play out of your mind, you 75 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.480 beat them, and then the yellow sue scenario whatever. Well, the fifteen 76 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:06.680 percent that I'm not saying one hundred percent accounts for maybe a loss to Utah. 77 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:10.519 But what about I hate to I hate to even bring it up. 78 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.160 What about the ASU game? What about the ASU game? So you're not 79 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:15.199 you know, how did you see what happened to them? This? Ye? 80 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:20.199 Hey, I know exactly how bad ASU is in Colorado is and just 81 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:24.720 bad? Okay, And I'll say I'll say it to somebody. Arizona's offense 82 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:29.839 is way better than Utah's offense. Okay, sure, and their defenses are 83 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:32.439 about, in my mind the same. Well go ahead, no, no, 84 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.759 no, I was trying to go ahead, you go ahead. Well, 85 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:39.240 I just think the Utah U of A game. Watching the way U 86 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.920 of A has played the last five weeks, I think they're very Utah esque. 87 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.040 They're very tough. Yes, their offense is not super flashy. They 88 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.079 have really good players, and we don't make a lot of mistakes right and 89 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:55.600 on the defensive end, we're a bunch of dogs similarly to similarly to Utah's 90 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:00.160 team, and we're really well coached both everything I just said Utah has he 91 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.720 has had for a while. Look that game Saturday night wasn't ass kicking. 92 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:10.079 U c l A never had a chance ever. Go ahead? That might 93 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.959 Hi, How you're on the air and I on the ball. How's it 94 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:19.519 going today? What's up? Brian? Well, I'm just wondering. You 95 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:27.240 know, Steve has zero chance of getting any better better looking, so our 96 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.560 our ten chance to win ten games, it's probably the better odds, I 97 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:40.160 guess, but to win ten games, it's it's still going to be difficulty. 98 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.199 No, it is going to be hard to overlook Colorado this weekend. 99 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.279 You know, those guys. It's a dangerous team because they're playing for nothing 100 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.240 right now. And what you're what you're also factoring in, Jay is is 101 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:55.639 the emotions, time and circumstance, all that stuff. Well, we'll play 102 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.519 We'll play a dead fish clip in a minute, that one that we've right, 103 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.000 you keep them from yeah, team from getting you know, So, 104 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:04.839 Brian, did you think that they would beat you sally this weekend going in, 105 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.519 Oh, yeah, I really did. Did you call last week? 106 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:14.439 Did you say that, Yes, yeah, we'll have to. I thought 107 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.959 they had they had a fifty to fifty chance of winning. Maybe, okay, 108 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.720 maybe it is okay, yeah, you know, but you know, 109 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:25.680 but that's not as good as you're gonna get because we still don't. My 110 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.839 biggest concern with the football team is what happens at the end of each They 111 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:36.439 gave up that that touchdown at the end touch down at the end of the 112 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.160 half, which they should never have given up. Like they said, they 113 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.920 were playing soft defense for some reason. Yeah, but just play the defense 114 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:49.879 you always play, because what's gonna happen, You're gonna wind up. You 115 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:55.680 talk to me, completely different teams than playing UCLA because they have good defense 116 00:07:56.199 --> 00:08:01.439 and they have an offer. But again, that game have Cam Rising quarterback. 117 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.040 They're still a pretty good team. That game is in Tucson, Brian 118 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.040 and Utah. Utah has lost, has brought really good teams and lost to 119 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.680 really bad teams in Tucson. So that I just you know, again, 120 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.920 I just think it's a high percentage that Arizona gets get you know, wins 121 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.439 wins out. Again. I don't know what's gonna happen in a bowl game, 122 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.839 but you know they're playing everybody. You see them playing everybody from I 123 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:28.879 think it's a big twelve team has to come to the Holiday Bowl. So 124 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.360 you know you're talking about Kansas or Kansas State. None of those teams scared. 125 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:41.879 Oh yeah, so anyway, yeah, you know we we still don't 126 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.480 you know, when we can't overlook this game this weekend. I don't think 127 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:50.919 they're going to because I think if you say, you know, Colorado's you 128 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.519 know, play, Arizona's playing for something, all right there they're playing and 129 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.440 I just don't see them, you know, taking a step back at least 130 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:03.960 from a from an emotional standpoint, or or overlooking anybody. Arizona is not 131 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:09.600 not a team that should be overlooking anybody. That team played excellent. They 132 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:15.279 may they made the one turnover that happens. You know, that team played 133 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.440 so well, I mean offensively and defensively. And I don't care what anybody 134 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:26.919 says until Lafita has a terrible game. He's the quarterback. He's a quarterback. 135 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:28.120 He is he is, all right, Brian, Hey, thanks about 136 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.559 you, man. We'll talk to you later. So getting back to the 137 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.080 planet is going to make Steve I have a have a good head. You 138 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.960 go ahead, No, okay, before your point. So, I got 139 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.000 somebody texting me someone you may or may not know, but is entrenched in 140 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.600 the program. Okay, not in the football program, but in the Arizona 141 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.799 right. What's I won't say is Jay? What's Jay thinking? One? 142 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.120 And two? Well, I kind of explain you're kind of a homer, 143 00:09:54.559 --> 00:10:01.039 but you are he's too much kool aid because Utah Utah is a program, 144 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.639 right, and that's that. And you understand that. No, I do. 145 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.799 I understand all those things. But what I'm saying. My point is 146 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:13.840 that I have finally come around to believe that they you know, they weren't. 147 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.840 They haven't been getting lucky. They know they haven't been catching breaks. 148 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:22.240 They haven't been you know, the turnover here and the turnover there, and 149 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.399 you win a game. They've been beating the crap out of here. This 150 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.720 is not your father's of UA football team. In fact, in the first 151 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.799 three weeks or four weeks whatever, they got unlucky they've been. They've been 152 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.159 beating these teams because they're better. No, no, And how many times 153 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.840 could you say that in your And that's my point. Don't disagree with all 154 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.200 the ones sitting here believing that they're better than two of the next three teams, 155 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:50.919 probably as good as Utah, and I think they can take anybody that 156 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.559 they play in a bowl game. Let's go. Let's take this higher on 157 00:10:54.639 --> 00:11:05.159 the air and on on the ball. Hello, hey jem, they also 158 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:11.399 be usc every place, but on the score of exactly and the same thing. 159 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:18.720 The Mississippi uh Mississi State the most important game of the last decade, 160 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:31.679 poison that would be the most important game. Well, yeah, Utah really 161 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:37.279 on the line if they played like this week's the most important game. Well, 162 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.600 you're hanging around, you must be hanging around Jed Fishers at it all 163 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:46.200 and uh, you know, I think they I think they're capable of beating 164 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:52.320 Colorado up and bouter, but you know, we'll just have to see. 165 00:11:52.559 --> 00:12:01.159 Well there probably had So Jim, are you using Jim? Are you using 166 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:11.159 a voice changer on your on your I'm the one that Jim, Jim. 167 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.080 We can we can, Jim, Jim, we can barely hear you. 168 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.000 We can. We can barely stop, Jim stop, we can barely hear 169 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:24.039 you can barely understand. Okay, let's play every game. Okay, thanks 170 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.919 all right, Jim, thanks you. We could barely understand. But we 171 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:31.200 we kind of got again going back, and I'm gonna keep repeating it, 172 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.440 Steve, It's just that Arizona they're better than these teams that they've been probably 173 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.120 think. I don't disagree with that. I think they're better than USC think 174 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.559 about it. I mean, okay, right, you might say, well, 175 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.840 us he's you know, got Kate Williams and they got this offense. 176 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.039 Well, Arizona matched a point for point and I'm sorry, but the airs 177 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:52.600 on his defense, it's ten times better than the USC's defense. You play 178 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.080 USC again and you're gonna kick their as. I hope you're not expected an 179 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.919 argument from me because the only thing I don't agree with with eighty five percent, 180 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.279 the Utah thing is a little tough too. And so I think if 181 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.320 we beat Utah, Utah will be the best team out of the last three. 182 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.960 They're better than so if we that's a team where you need to beat. 183 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.679 If you're if we're gonna talk about like being a legit pro didn't didn't 184 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.480 Utah lose to Oregon State? Who did they lose to? They lost to 185 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.840 organ State at the beginning of the year. But you stayed on a Friday 186 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.039 night. Yeah, but that's that doesn't mean but now they got to come 187 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.120 here, right Yeah, I mean look, look, I mean when the 188 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:35.120 time number, when the time comes, I'm gonna believe I'm gonna sit you 189 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.440 and go go. Arizon's not gonna win this game because they never win that 190 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:43.080 game. But then they're gonna win the game. Proved me wrong, shoot 191 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:48.200 and shoot called back. Whoever's tried to call call back after the guest In 192 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.720 fact, it is okay, okay, we have to call because we only 193 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:54.000 have two minutes, we're gonna go to Ryan Hanson. Yeah, okay, 194 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.519 yeah, so we are gonna talk some basketball today, uh with with both 195 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:03.679 with Ryan Hanson, who does the color color commentating on There's on a radio 196 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.279 broadcast, and then Greg Hansen, who had a piece in the in the 197 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.200 Star today or yesterday, just talking about the history of the pack Troll. 198 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:15.120 Just get a little historical perspective. Is the last packball basketball season? They 199 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.559 have the special section, Yeah, yesterday and I went went I read some 200 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.320 of that. So again, if you're calling right now, just call us 201 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.279 after the break. We'll have more time you call. We had to get 202 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.480 out to our break here in just a second. Anyways, discussion, you 203 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:33.039 know, I mean, I I'm I among all the people I hang with, 204 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.960 I'm the last one on board with this. Okay, those guys have 205 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.919 all been going, but they've been doing it for years. Well but we 206 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.120 all been doing it for years. But I've been the doubter. And again, 207 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.399 like I told you, you know right there right there, standing right 208 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.120 they're standing on the you know, on the concourse that Lowel Stevens. I 209 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.039 told Nico we're not going to win this game. And then they beat the 210 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.679 crap out of them. That was That was good because if you said they 211 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.679 wouldn't, they would have lost. But I mean again, this wasn't a 212 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:03.039 flu. You know they'll they'll beat UCLA eight out of ten times from what 213 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.759 we saw lid. Yeah, no, it was a good game. Yeah, 214 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.639 all right, let's go and take our break again. Ryan Hanson coming 215 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.960 up. We'll talk to him. Arizona basketball with the opener tonight against Morgan 216 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:28.600 State. So stick around. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get 289 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.079 rid of your bad bugs, termites, bees, or rodents serving Tucson and 290 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:44.559 Southern Arizona since nineteen forty seven. Go to azypest dot com to schedule your 291 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:52.759 free evaluation today. Breaking down all the exes at OHS. It's Steve Rivera 292 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.400 and Jacinsovins. This is I on the Park on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. 293 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.640 Hey, welcome back to Ian the back here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 294 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.920 I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jay Gonzalez. Now on the phone. We have 295 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.039 Ryan Hanson from the Other Nations play by pay the other guy. How why 296 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.279 are you running? I'm doing great. How are you guys? Are you 297 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.799 ready to roll? Hey? I'm ready. I mean it's amazing how quick 298 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.599 it came this year. It felt fast. But at the same time, 299 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:36.039 boy, it's been a long time since Arizona's unceremonious departure in the eNCA tournament 300 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:38.920 back in Sacramento. So I'm glad to turn the page and get us going 301 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.759 on a new season. Well, on that note, I think that Tommy 302 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.279 is too. And the reason I said it is because every chance he gets 303 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.319 and these questions come up. And I asked him one three months ago, 304 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.119 are you glad that it's kind of we're moving forward quickly? And he says 305 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:53.839 yeah, And then he goes into the history of how he's going to learn 306 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:57.240 from that loss, and he said this, He's owned it like crazy. 307 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:00.839 I love that he's owned it, right. I mean, you can run 308 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.559 from these things, but the real truth about it is, and you guys 309 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:08.880 know this because you've done this a long time. Unfortunately for Tommy, that 310 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.160 Princeton mark is never going to go away, right, going to be brought 311 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.079 up every tournament. It's going to be brought up this March. Oh, 312 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.759 well last year. This is what happened to Arizona. But you have to 313 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:23.480 go through those valleys to learn to get better, and then, as we 314 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.400 know, to appreciate the peaks and the top of the mountain when you get 315 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.680 there. Yeah, it's you know, I mean, I don't know that 316 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.920 it's it's I mean, I know it's a two verses fifteen, but it 317 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.880 doesn't feel like the Santa Clara loss. You know that one hung on loot 318 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.079 till the till the end. People will continue to remember this, but I 319 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:48.200 think it happened so early in Tommy's you know, tenure here that if they 320 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.240 if they go off and do something great this year then or the next, 321 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:55.119 it's not going to hang on. It's not gonna hang on Jay. They'll 322 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:56.839 always remember it, but it won't be like a badge on his back. 323 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.839 But remember it, right those This the Santa Clara think came right after the 324 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.519 East Ennessee State game, right, so it was back to that probably why 325 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.119 right? Yeah, I think you guys are both right in the fact that 326 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:12.920 this, while it's an isolated incident per se, if Arizona goes in substance 327 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:17.799 toe again, yeah, now you've got more of a storyline to it and 328 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:22.640 a narrative potentially. But I'll also add to it. Twenty twenty three and 329 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.559 now going into twenty twenty four, it's a different era of college basketball than 330 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.880 what it was back in nineteen ninety two, nineteen ninety three, where upsets 331 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:36.240 happened, and in fact, same day Purdue goes down to a sixteen seat, 332 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.240 So it's not as rare. It's happening more frequently. There's more parody 333 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.480 in college basketball. With the transfer portal, the nil money, we're going 334 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.319 to see I think more upsets. Look at the Final Four this past year. 335 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:55.119 Who was in it. It wasn't Chalk, it wasn't Blue Buds. 336 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.319 So the stain may not last as long. But the best elixir, the 337 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:04.160 best remedy to come off of that situation, is to have a great season 338 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:08.279 and a deep run. And that's what we're all have hope for on opening 339 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:12.160 night of college basketball. So it starts and I think on Morgan State and 340 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:17.880 then boom, here comes Duke. You know, your thoughts on playing a 341 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.759 game like that that early? You know, I mean, you've barely had 342 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:23.559 a chance to get your feet wet. Now you're headed over to Cameron. 343 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:27.640 What are your thoughts on that? I'm excited about it. I love it. 344 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:32.119 It hearkens back, and I don't want to always harken back to the 345 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:36.119 Loud Olson days. Sometimes we can get to to fixate it on that. 346 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:40.279 But you think back, and I'm not saying this is the national title year, 347 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:44.839 but the national title year, the first first first game of the year 348 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:49.279 was North Carolina right on a neutral court. So this isn't uncharted territory. 349 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:53.880 So when I think about what Arizona is looking for tonight in tonight's game, 350 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:59.240 they really need to sharpen some things up. The exhibition games taught them a 351 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.559 little bit about taking care of the basketball. Well, tennight, you're playing 352 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.039 a Morgan State team that wants to turn you over. If Arizona doesn't play 353 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.079 sharper, will they lose? Most likely not going to lose tonight, but 354 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:18.160 will they be in the best position to take their road trip to Durham and 355 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.960 Cameron Indoor where if you turn it over there you get run out of the 356 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.720 gym. Yeah, no question. In fact, the lineups that we'll see 357 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.599 tonight will be nothing like we'll see on Thursday, I mean on Friday. 358 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:33.640 Probably, right, I think you're going to see in the first half, 359 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.079 at least to start, you'll probably see a little bit more of what the 360 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.920 quote unquote rotation will look like. But you're right, Steve, I think 361 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.279 for the non conference games that are of this variety, where Arizona is playing 362 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:49.880 a mid major at home, you're going to see Tommy hopefully starting to try 363 00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:56.599 to build a deeper, better, more quality depth and bench for the Wildcats. 364 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.240 He's talked about that it's something he wants to improve upon, so he 365 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.400 better show that tonight, right and play more guys. But when you go 366 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:08.160 to Cameron, when you play Michigan State on Thanksgiving Day, are you going 367 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:12.160 to be able to be as liberal with your roster in your minutes? Maybe 368 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:17.400 not, because you definitely want to win those games and sometimes you've got to 369 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:22.559 play the best you've got, especially on Friday on the road. At arguably 370 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.359 the toughest place to play a road game would be in Cameron. You're probably 371 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.799 not going to see ten, eleven, twelve guys get tons of minutes. 372 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:37.359 What are you most curious about this team? You know, there's a few 373 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.039 things that I'm curious about, and I'll throw one out at you that no 374 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:48.440 one or maybe few people are talking about. Replacing the easy baskets that Julis 375 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:55.279 Tavellis got Arizona. I think it's an underrated thing of what a Zulus was 376 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.519 able to do. He rim Ran, he got easy baskets in transition, 377 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.079 you could throw the ball into the low block consistently and get easy shots from 378 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:08.359 him. Can Arizona replace that? Are we going to get high percentage shots 379 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:14.319 elsewhere? I think we'll feel a little bit of pain of not having a 380 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.079 Zulus there, just like you would in any year losing a very good player. 381 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.960 But I think that's one that not a lot of people are talking about. 382 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.799 Let me give you another that we've talked about a number of times here. 383 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.359 Who's going to shoot the jumper from the perimeter. Who's going to make 384 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.440 the jumper from the perimeter? You know? I think Arizona's got a couple 385 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:36.559 of guys that I really believe are going to be consistently good shooters. Are 386 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:40.480 they going to be Steve Curse, Eline Stodemyer, Probably not. But I 387 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:45.640 think Kylon Boswell and Caleb Love are going to be above average shooters for Arizona 388 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.400 in this offense. They can score at all three levels. I think they 389 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.799 complement each other with playing downhill and being threats to take it all the way 390 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.759 to the rim. Actually having guards that can finish in traffic at the rim 391 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.519 this year is going to be a luxury for Arizona. It was a deficiency 392 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.720 last year. I think what that does is that opens up opportunities for kickouts, 393 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.279 for wide open perimeter shots. So I don't think there's gonna be the 394 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:14.839 saline, there's gonna be the speed per but I do think by committee they've 395 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:21.680 got more than capable shooters in Kylon and Kaleb. Well, what you know, 396 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.799 I've been talking about Keishad being the guy that he just looks mean out 397 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.039 there and you know, somebody who sort of an enforcer kind of guy that 398 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.400 maybe Arizona hasn't had in a while. I compared his look and I'm not 399 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.119 you know, they're different sizes and stuff like that. Just the look on 400 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.119 his face, his presence on the court to a Brian Williams who just get 401 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.079 the hell out of my way. I'm gonna knock you down if you get 402 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:45.599 in my way. You know, I'm gonna dunk on you. I'm gonna 403 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.000 do all these things. But he's in the four spot, not a five. 404 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.680 But I mean, I'm That's what I'm looking for from a guy like 405 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.519 him, in a presence that maybe Arizona hasn't had in a while, Because 406 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.480 look, Zulis was a really good player. He just went through all the 407 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.960 things he could do. But you know, his reputation was he's kind of 408 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.680 soft and he wasn't a guy that was going to enforce under the basket. 409 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.440 I feel like brings that. I don't know what you what you think so 410 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.240 far from what you say, Yeah, I think there's I think there's a 411 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.920 number of guys that kind of have a nasty streak in them that we didn't 412 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.000 have across the board. And I think you're right. It starts with key 413 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.000 shod. I will say that Brian Williams had a screw loose in a good 414 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.200 way. Uh, it wasn't just a nasty streak. He was a little 415 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.480 out there and and that's what kind of led to his his greatness a little 416 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:36.039 bit because he was so crazy. But that's that's a story for another day. 417 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:41.599 But I believe is going to give Arizona those dirty grunt plays. And 418 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.079 I'm not saying that because he's not capable or he's not skilled. He is 419 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.319 skilled. He's extremely athletic, but he's not afraid to get his nose dirty 420 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.759 and he's not afraid to mix it up a little bit. I think that's 421 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.559 where you're going with it. Jay Is does does Arizona have some dogs? 422 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.079 And I mean that just in a good way? Are they Are they willing 423 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.960 to mix it up a little bit? I think kJ Lewis has a little 424 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.160 bit of a dog in him and he's a tougher, hard nosed guy who's 425 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.440 not afraid to mix it up a little bit. And and Arizona in the 426 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:15.079 Princeton game, you saw guys and for lack of a better phrase, shrivel 427 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:21.079 in the moment. Yeah, And I'm hopeful that this group has more dogs 428 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.519 that that when the when it gets tough, when you got to get a 429 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.200 rebound, when you got to get a basket, when you got to take 430 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.319 the ball to the rim and finish hard, or you're you're going to be 431 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.440 at the free throw line or both. Arizona has a number of players that 432 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.240 today look like could fill that role for us. Now will that will that 433 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.400 play itself out? That's where we have the season. We're going to see 434 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.799 that growth or evolution or guys you know, step up into that role. 435 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:52.200 So I have a combination of guys for Kisha, Jean part Jane, I 436 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.160 mean Gene and uh and Bennett Davison kind of that combo athletic guy who can 437 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.680 do a lot of things athletically. That was just my and that I think 438 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.319 that's a good a good mixture because you look, he's Keyshot is not as 439 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.759 robotic as Gene, but he's not as fluid as Bennett either, Right, 440 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:14.519 He's an more athletic Gene, but a little bit more robotic Bennett. And 441 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.640 that's a good point because Bennett gave you. Both of those guys gave you 442 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.880 tough rebounds, they gave you hustle plays, they gave you steals off the 443 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:29.720 ball, they gave you athleticism and athletic plays in their own right. That's 444 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.519 actually a pretty good comparison. You know, a lot of people that I've 445 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.319 talked to, they're trying to put, you know, Keyshot in the role 446 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:41.680 of is he Richard Jefferson is the Andre Guodala And I don't see him in 447 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.759 that three man role just yet. He's got I think there's some grass that 448 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.799 needs to grow on that progress for him. It's probably closer to a Gene 449 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.720 Bennett comparison. So let me say this. We had Reggie on the show 450 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.160 last week and I talked and this was an observation that's not going to hit 451 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.599 home, but it hits a little bit, so that the backcourt is very 452 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.640 good the one this year, and they're not They're not Damon, they're not 453 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.039 Collid, and they're not Reggie. But they have those qualities and we'll know 454 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.319 maybe they are down the road because those three were very good for the ninety 455 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.519 four year, right, but they have a number of guys now who can 456 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.079 fill those roles in a three man rotation. That's a great that's a great 457 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:28.079 comparison. I'm not surprised that Reggie, you know, drew that because of 458 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:34.359 the personality and you're you're the one that pointed that out to him. But 459 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:38.200 I like what you're going with the tools and the toolbox. There's there's different 460 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.160 there's a screwdriver, there's a hammer, there's a saw in all of these 461 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.880 cases. You look, Jayden Bradley, could he fill the role that Reggie 462 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.359 filled in that year in ninety four? Kind of not a great shooter at 463 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.440 that point in his career, a lockdown defender, going to get up in 464 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.880 your shorts to take it to the rim and finish. That's kind of where 465 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.119 Jaden's at right now. Caleb love. Let's get the very careful not to 466 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.440 compare him to Khalid Reeves. He's not necessarily going to put up eight hundred 467 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:10.359 and thirty four points in his senior year like Khalid did. But can he 468 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.519 be a bucket getter for you? I think so. Can Kylon Boswell be 469 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.359 a scoring point guard that could control games, could use the pick and roll, 470 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.319 could score at all three levels. I don't think he's got the spurt 471 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:29.759 ability that Damon had, but he's he's a great point guard in the making. 472 00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.119 I kind of like those comparisons when you see the different tools in the 473 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.400 toolbox on the perimeter. Now, I like our backcourt on November sixth, 474 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:44.119 I really like our backcourt again. A lot to be seen, but good 475 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.079 comparisons, do you no? Well? And you know, and you talked 476 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:51.200 about Tommy and you know what he you know what he had to go through 477 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.480 this last summer. But I don't know. I mean, you're maybe you've 478 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.839 been around him more than than we have, but he's got to be pretty 479 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.599 dang excited about the roster he put together, especially coming off that loss. 480 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.640 And we're you know, there were a lot of naysayers about him in his 481 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.519 recruiting for a guy who can't do it right. Yeah, for a guy 482 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.239 who can't recruit right as they were saying that after Princeton or he's not going 483 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.039 to be able to recruit. I mean, he's got to be fired of 484 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.199 about what he's seen on the court so far in spite of that last Yeah, 485 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.119 for sure, and knowing Tommy like I do, and I think you 486 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.320 guys have seen it. I don't think he listened to the critics when he 487 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.280 got the job. I don't think he listens to the critics when he loses. 488 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.639 I don't think he listens to the media that went crazy when he was 489 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.960 the all time leader in wins for a too in his second year as a 490 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.920 head coach. Right, so he gets the praise on that. I don't 491 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.039 think he dwells on those things. As he calls it. He's what is 492 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.639 a day to day, long, necked along neck, paycheck to paycheck kind 493 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.880 of guy. And so that's a good approach as a college basketball coach. 494 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.840 You don't get too high and you don't get too low. But Jay, 495 00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.679 your point is, I think he sees this and the talent level that he 496 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:06.639 has. I believe he sees the upside of this team and knows that he's 497 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:12.360 got something special if Arizona can stay healthy, if the pieces and the roles 498 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.960 fit how he is strategically putting it together, and knows that it's a long 499 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.880 season, and so you know, Arizona season is not going to be one 500 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.480 or lost tonight. I'm not going to be one or lost on Friday night. 501 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.840 But each of these two opportunities this week are building blocks. And he's 502 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.280 such a good perspective guy that I think that's how he's looking at it. 503 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.679 So last question before we leave. I think one of the things that's going 504 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.440 to benefit Arizona is they're not in the top ten. They're kind of floating 505 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:43.800 at twelve. I think eventually they'll get into top five, top seven, 506 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:50.280 but there's no great expectations, of unrealistic expects that's for their own Yeah, 507 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.960 no, for sure, Arizona is probably right probably ranked right where they should 508 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:59.519 be. But you know Arizona historically, and you guys know this, and 509 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.440 November in December, if Arizona does what it has done the last two years, 510 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.960 if Arizona does what it did under Luke, it will find itself in 511 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.960 the top five. If they go and play close or win on Friday, 512 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.320 or you know, come out unscathed or with only one or two losses. 513 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.559 And they lose close to Purdue and they lose to Duke, but they beat 514 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.960 Michigan State, they beat Alabama, they beat Florida Atlantic. You're going they're 515 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:27.559 going to find themselves squarely in that top five, you know position. But 516 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.440 I like what you're saying in regards to expectations on opening night of college basketball, 517 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.800 Arizona is probably they're a top twenty five team with still a lot to 518 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.119 prove, right exactly. Rhino is always thank you very much, good stuff. 519 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.800 Thanks guys. We'll see it Michael shortly, all right, manute, 520 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.079 good stuff, great perspective. You're not too high, not too low. 521 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.519 And that's it. I mean, you know, he he sees it closer 522 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.480 than we do. Yeah, you know. And he's not over reacity. 523 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.920 No, no, no, not overreact or that. He's not me. 524 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.679 I was gonna say that, but I'm glad you did. Hello, my 525 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.000 nag, I know who I am. Ill, my name is Jay. 526 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.480 I have an issue. I'm an overreactor. I know who I I know 527 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.840 who I am. That's funny, that's good. You know what I'm good, 528 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.840 all right, We'll take your calls five two, zero four, one 529 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.480 four forty as we head to the Arizona men's basketball opener, you give us 530 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.719 a call five to zero, four and six and for forty women also kicking 531 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:31.800 off tonight or tipping off tonight as well. Okay, stick around. If 532 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:36.239 you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty 533 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.760 years. 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You gotta 575 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.920 sign me in with about thirteen minutes. If you were trying to call us, 576 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.880 to call us back, we get the phone line open code line. 577 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.639 Remember, uh please do five two zero four one six seventy four to forty. 578 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.159 Glad to hear from you. You have a correction or something. Yeah, 579 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.440 we're talking about again, both projections and whatnot. We'll get to some 580 00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.960 of the Jetfish clips as it relates to that. But the Holiday Bowl, 581 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.480 go ahead and answer that and just put it on hold for a second. 582 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:09.480 The Holiday Bowl is Arizona, Arizona twelve versus a sec. So it couldn't 583 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:15.920 be Kansas. It could be Kansas in the Okay, let's take this call. 584 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.239 How you're on the R and I on the Ball. It's Jim again. 585 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.599 I've been you didn't hear anything I said, no, no, But 586 00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:29.199 but listen to us. We're trying to tell you. We're trying to break 587 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.199 in to tell you we couldn't hear you, But go ahead, make it, 588 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.280 make it cool. Okay, Yeah, what were you trying to say? 589 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.960 I was trying to say that every game they play for the rest of 590 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:47.840 the year is the most important game of the decade, and whether or not 591 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:53.320 they win, whether or not they win will depend on whether they're the best 592 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:58.480 team or not. It'll meet it a matter of do they meet the moment 593 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.679 every moment? You know, you know, you say decade, which I'm 594 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.000 not gonna disagree. Why the decade has been bad. It's been bad, 595 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:10.159 but decade includes twenty fourteen. They were twenty four you're close, maybe eight 596 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.079 or nine years. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Yeah, because it 597 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:16.880 was because it did get it did get so bad. You are correct on 598 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.360 that. Well, I'll agree with you. They need to make the moment, 599 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.119 not what they did last week, this moment. So Jim, real 600 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:29.039 quick to uh, have you given up on the FAFEEDA stuff that you were 601 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:37.159 talking about? I mean the Jayden Deloro stuff. My way I'm looking at 602 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:44.559 it. He's not the quarterback. Wow, wow, Jay Okay, he's 603 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.119 a good one, man. Yeah, he's a goody. He's a good 604 00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.000 one. And let me tell you, Jim, Jay. We go to 605 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.000 these press conferences and right now he's the Remember last week I said it was 606 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.760 there. Two weeks ago it was Coke Colman. Yeah, to feed It 607 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.239 is hard to overlook that, all right, Jim, Hey, thanks much, 608 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:01.599 man, appreciate you calling back. Thank you. I mean, come 609 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.920 on, I don't know what you have. Let's do with your clips. 610 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.360 We can talk about well real quick. I was walking into you know, 611 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.159 the press conference, and as I got to the door, the feeda was 612 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:15.599 coming out. I think I'm taller than him, and I'm a shrinking five 613 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:22.639 nine, So say I ran in coming out the door. I think I'm 614 00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.320 tallerant. Well, yeah, what you no? Yeah, yeah, I 615 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.719 used to be five nine. I'm not anymore. If I tell you what 616 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.679 exactly you know, I can't I'll trip over. But we know, Hey, 617 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.800 Jay's coming. Let's take this call real quick. How you're on the 618 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.119 R and I on the ball. Hell there, I was hoping you guys 619 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:45.480 would help me break down the Antonio Pierce saw get here. Okay, yeah, 620 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.400 especially since he's in the news here late. Yes, Well, do 621 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.159 you have a question or do you just want to know? I just want 622 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.000 to help me straight now, he he originally had a son that he kind 623 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.079 of was going to go to U of A, but he persuaded him to 624 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:00.719 go to a s U. And was he not one of the guys who 625 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:06.840 helped sabotage? I heard at the end Herman Edwards maybe over recruiting. I 626 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.719 heard one of the final nails in his coffin. Right, Well, Antonio 627 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:15.440 Pierce was the guy who was kind of leading the illegal recruiting thing during the 628 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.119 COVID period. He's not a sabotage he was. Yeah, he wasn't a 629 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.480 sabotage and they he was doing that because that's what he was supposed to be 630 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:23.800 doing. But no, he he yes, he's the one who sort of 631 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.480 led that whole thing. And he's the first, one of the first ones 632 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.119 who got in big trouble for it and lost his job. So yes he 633 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:35.159 did. He was involved in that, got fired, landed with the Raiders, 634 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.599 and now he's their head coach, which is crazy. Yeah, so 635 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.559 far, so good, one game in, but they they playing hard for 636 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.840 him. We'll see. They got a tough schedule. But I just wanted 637 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.039 to break it down what you fellas, you know, the scoop. Yeah, 638 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.719 and he was an interesting saga is the really interesting because he was a 639 00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:53.400 U of a guy left here and got on bad terms and what I heard 640 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:55.880 and I'm just going to say it because of so long ago, even if 641 00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.360 it's just a rumor that when he was trying to, you know, get 642 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.480 ready for the end NFL and do his work, that John mcovic would not 643 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.480 let him work out and use the U of a facilities really and that it 644 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.360 pissed him off so much that, like, you know, when he was 645 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.480 playing with the Giants and you don't have the beginning of a game, they 646 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.000 would they say, you know who they are and what college they went to. 647 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.400 He would never say University of Arizona. He would say his high school. 648 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.159 He would say his junior college that he went to, and he would 649 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.719 never say University of Arizona. He was so mad at them. And then 650 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.239 he goes lands at ASU. Obviously wanted to kick the hell out of Arizona 651 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:37.119 while he was at ASU, and then all that happened at the bottom of 652 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.480 the barrel. Yeah, those two got two peas in a pod when it 653 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.840 comes to that. All right, Hey, thanks about you break it down 654 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:46.480 for me, Thank you, thanks for calling. Yeah, so we were 655 00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:53.679 talking before what were we talking before? I forgot already at Okay, let's 656 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.760 play we got it a little bit time. Let's play a couple of clips 657 00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.559 from the Jetfish press conference. Okay, this conversation that Jim was having about 658 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:06.360 being ready for Colorado when not overlooking them, is that number two? Yeah, 659 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.840 go ahead and play lay that one. I mean there were some fluke 660 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.679 things that have happened to Colorado. I mean they're up twenty nine to nothing 661 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.800 and a half times. I'm sure that they weren't expecting to not win that 662 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.400 game. Okay, that's not the one. That was your question, Yeah, 663 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.880 that was my question. We're but oh, look, okay that the 664 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.679 bowl qualified one number four. He was talking about looking ahead and you know, 665 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.000 you've qualified for a bowl game, and how do you keep them from 666 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.360 looking ahead? Yeah? I mean the game. I mean we qualified for 667 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.039 a bawl. That doesn't mean really anything other than we qualified for a bowl. 668 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.840 We have It wasn't the last game of the year. It wasn't that 669 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.840 we were five and six and you know, won the twelfth game to get 670 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:47.800 to a bowl game, and then we go find out that two days later. 671 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.039 Where we're going just go now, we go play Colorado and we try 672 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.119 to get to seven and three, and that's the goal. It's you have 673 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.079 a little bit of a let's call it. You want to our goals is 674 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:06.039 to play thirteen or more games. So we hit that goal. That's all 675 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.920 that happened. We hit that goal to play thirteen or more games. Now 676 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.599 we have an opportunity to reset and start trying to achieve other goals and one 677 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.440 of which clearly is going to be to go want to know this week and 678 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.480 figure out a way to make sure that we take care of business in Boulder. 679 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.480 And that's really it. I mean, you know, look, that's 680 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.840 how they're gonna do. We as fans, we get to look ahead to 681 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:38.400 talk about winning ten games and stuff happen. Let's take this call. Hi, 682 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:43.000 you're on the air and eye on the ball. You Gabe, how 683 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.719 are you guys doing, Gabriel? How are you doing? Pretty good? 684 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:54.280 We gotta we gotta got a great win on Saturday and finally Arizona is relevant 685 00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:01.880 again. Gabriel, do you do you think they're going to win ten games? 686 00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:10.559 Well, Arizona needs to focus on beating Colorado. They have a very 687 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:19.559 clean game, no penalties, no penalties, and no mistakes quite frankly, 688 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.320 going into the Colorado game and going into the A s U game, Well, 689 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:29.840 I mean the team up north and and against Utah, So they gotta 690 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.559 have they gotta be narrow, they gotta they gotta focus on who's in, 691 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:40.360 who's their next opponent, have a clean game. And and I wouldn't say 692 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.800 Arizona is the hunted, but they gotta take care of business, right And 693 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:52.280 I was, and I was at the game on Saturday, and I was 694 00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:59.199 very impressed about how how how the fan crowd was there. I've seen there 695 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:07.320 was about fifty thousand people at this at Arizona Stadium. So if Arizona keeps 696 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:14.159 on winning and keeps doing keeps stacking season with a lot of wins, then 697 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:19.679 Arizona's gonna be finally a football school. Yep, yep, Thanksgiving. I 698 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.159 agree with you. Game. Hey, thanks about man, Glad you made 699 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.079 it down for the game. So did you did you q my question in 700 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.400 the in this? So let me say this because to his point, I 701 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.719 thought, I thought they had very few penalies, ver a few penalties, 702 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.679 one turnover. I think it was they played a very clean thing. To 703 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.719 your point of playing, they really did and They've been doing this for a 704 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.679 while now, but this last week in very few penalties, a lot of 705 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.599 nice things, and you you could just sell Fafeita is smart, Team Mac 706 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.800 is smart, Herbie is very smart. There's a bunch of those. That's 707 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.719 why I prompted this question. That was a great question talking about, you 708 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.679 know, the the IQ of his players, and this is what Jed Fish 709 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:01.280 had to say about that. Yeah, I think there's no doubt that our 710 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:07.039 team has a very high football IQ. We throw a lot of football at 711 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.719 them. We run a as we said, a pro style offense with the 712 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.840 exact same verbiage as a lot of NFL teams use. These guys understand that 713 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:21.639 each week we have a different game plan based upon how we want to attack 714 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.480 coverage and how we want to attack a front. If you're going to be 715 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:29.039 a game plan specific team on offense, then you have to have high football 716 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.480 IQ. If you look at what we're doing on defense, we have plenty 717 00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:36.079 of different personnel groups. We move guys in and out to different spots, 718 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:39.360 we play different coverages, we teach different pass concepts and run run fits, 719 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.079 and if you're going to do that, you need to have a high football 720 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.320 IQ. So we believe that if you come to Arizona, you have to 721 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:50.400 have a football IQ that's going to allow you to be a pro. And 722 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.280 that's what we look for. We don't look for guys that just want to 723 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.840 line up right and left. We don't look for guys that just want to 724 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.440 play in a system that doesn't motion. We don't want to look for guys 725 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.320 defensively that only want to line up and do one job. We want people 726 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.400 that are smart and that want to play on Sundays. And if you want 727 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.400 to play on Sundays, you better be able to pick up a lot of 728 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.760 football in a short period of time. So when he was talking, I 729 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.320 thought it was a great answer. I wasn't expecting that answer, but it 730 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.679 was a great answer. He never mentioned a player, never mentioned a player, 731 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.519 but I mentioned the guy. I was thinking, did I'm ticky when 732 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:23.920 you say this? You know what I'm tinking? Did you listen to that? 733 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.239 South Point kids? And not a just not a not in a bad 734 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.119 way, but but well, you know, as he's as like, as 735 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:36.880 he's talking is answering that question. The tail end of that question, really 736 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.320 the light bulb went on. That's why he's recruiting so well, because he's 737 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.880 telling you, guys, you could you come here for and for four years 738 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.760 We're going to prepare you for the NFL. Right, We're not just trying 739 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.320 to win college football games. We're trying to get you ready for your dream. 740 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:51.679 You know, I was just gonna ask you that. So what do 741 00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.599 you think the players come to play football? Exactly? Exactly right? You 742 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:59.039 know? And what you know, what did Chip Kelly say about teammate he 743 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.159 could be the best receiver in the country. You're getting that, You're getting 744 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:07.960 that kind of notoriety and respect. Are you listening Dorian Singer? Right? 745 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:13.079 You know where did Dorian Singer go? He's disappeared off the mat and and 746 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.199 you know thought that USC was a place to go to be to be relevant. 747 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:20.519 Imagine if he's here, Who's who are they talking about right now? 748 00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.320 The time about Arizona, the time about USC, but in a bad way. 749 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.400 The talk about USC and how disappointing they've been, and Arizona is the 750 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.800 program on the rise of Steve I'm you know, you get again You're gonna 751 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:37.039 talk about my overreaction, but you can argue it depends on what happens with 752 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.880 Utah that Arizona might be the third best team in the league. They are, 753 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.320 depends certainly playing like that, right, we'll see after next week. 754 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.119 Yeah, but they are. It's hard to tell them that, but yes, 755 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.599 yes, And and who would have thought that going Nobody, nobody, 756 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.639 not even not me, not anybody that I know, thought Arizona could finish 757 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.599 in third place. And it's it's gonna be This last month is gonna be 758 00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.599 fantastically fun. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. And when 759 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:04.920 was the last time you said that twenty fourteen, fourteen, Well, there 760 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.920 was the Cluff Tate year that was, you know, but they were that 761 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.159 team wasn't going somewhere. It was. It was just an exciting team because 762 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.920 that stretch of games. But this is a team that you feel like in 763 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.079 for the long haul. All right, let's take our break. We're come 764 00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:24.880 back, Sammy overreaction reaction second exactly, Sammy's got breaking news coming right up, 765 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:25.519 right back.