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as their next offensive coordinator. Let's
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Today we're going to talk about the Dan

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Pitcher hire, his introductory press conference, how it went down, what it

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James just a couple seats away from
where you're sitting, Zach Taylor and Dan

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Pitcher talk to you guys in the
media down at Pey Course Stadium and Dan

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was introduced as the next offensive coordinator
for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, huge

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news. It's something we've obviously discussed
a time this week. What it happened,

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could it happen, should it happen? A lot of takeaways You're going

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to hear from Dan Pitcher coming up
in just a bit. But my major

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thought is how valued he was in
this building from multiple people when we can

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discuss those exact people, and they
did not want to lose him. They

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feel like he's ready to be an
offensive coordinator. He was obviously valued across

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the league from multiple teams, and
the fact that the Bengals were able to

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keep him here is big. I
think there are some out there that are

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saying, oh, well, why
didn't you go out and get this guy

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or that guy or bigger names or
whatever the case is. I'll say this,

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I think Dan is one of those
guys that would have went to whatever

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team and that team would have been
really excited once they got to know Dan

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Pitcher that he was in their building. And I know people in this building

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right now, as you mentioned,
I'm at pay Court Stadium. They're excited

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that Dan stuck around, that he's
the new offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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And yeah, I think it's a
really exciting day. And I do

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think the Bengals got it right.
I want to be on record and be

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very clear about that. I think
the Bengals got it right with this hire.

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I think that promoting Dan Pitcher makes
a lot of sense for a lot

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of reasons. Zach Taylor and Dan
Pitcher talked about some of those reasons.

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He's been in the building working toward
this role. You know that Joe Burrow

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is a big fan. We've talked
about and played the quote where he talked

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up his relationship with Dan Pitcher on
this podcast this week leading into this episode,

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he in a statement today reaffirmed his
support for Dan Pitcher as you know

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he would Jake Browning. Huge phrase
for Dan Pittch sure, Zach Taylor,

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huge praise for Dan Pitcher and getting
Jake Browning ready in terms of Jake Browning

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being able to come in and didn't
have a hot performance against the Steelers in

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either opportunity, but had a pretty
good start to his career as a starter

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in a backup role, but for
his first starts exceeded expectations for you and

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I I know James and Dan Pitcher
a big part of that as well.

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It will be an expansion obviously of
his role in the offense, but it's

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not like he has no part in
game planning. We'll talk about that as

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well. And the timing really did
work out. To your point, I

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think Dan Pitcher was going to get
a job somewhere else if he didn't land

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with the Cincinnati Bengals. There was
interest, like we've talked about, from

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three different teams in New England Patriots
and Las Vegas Raiders, New Orleans Saints.

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I think that one of those teams, maybe more of those teams were

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very interested in hiring him, as
you've probably seen on social media. And

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I think we talked about Marvin Lewis
connection with Dan Pitcher. Marvin Lewis was

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the first person to give Pitcher coaching
job in the NFL. Marvin Lewis in

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Las Vegas certainly a connection there.
They're talking to some other ex Martin Lewis

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coaches in Las Vegas, and you've
seen teams around the NFL. Maybe the

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Bucks come again. Dave Canal's got
hired on Thursday to be the next head

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coach of the Carolina Panthers. So
maybe other teams that we didn't even know

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about yet would have gotten into it
for Dan's services as well. Wasn't very

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high demand around the NFL, and
that familiarity with the process in Cincinnati will

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help him hit the ground running.
I don't expect everything to be identical.

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It's still Zach calling the plays,
we think, but it won't be identical

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to the way it was when Brian
Callahan was OC. But at least he's

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familiar with the processes. He's been
part of the game planning, specifically on

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third downs. But he's been part
of this system in this machine and has

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seen how it operates and now gets
to put his imprint on it with the

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promotion. Well, yeah, let's
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he will. He won't be calling
plays that'll be Zach still, so we

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can say that and past the think
part of it. But we thought that

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would be the case. Anyways.
I do think that some people think that

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Zach does this, did this,
and made this. Oh, well,

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this way he can still call plays. Oh. I think this is a

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structure that has worked. It's the
same structure, by the way, and

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we're recording this before Brian Callahan talks
that. Guess what Brian Callahan's going to

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implement in Nashville with the Tennessee Titans
because he thinks it works. We're talking

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about an NFL lifeer here, not
someone that just got to the league last

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year. So I think the structure
works. What's interesting about what you said,

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and I think we really need to
hammer at home. Who's the franchise?

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Oh it's Joe Burrow, right,
Joe Burrows the franchise. Joe.

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I thought you were going to say, Mike Brown, No, it's not

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the most important man in the building, assuming he's still here. He was

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here earlier. Is Joe Burrow.
Period. It doesn't matter who walks in

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this building as the most important man
in this building. So sorry, Mike.

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I think Mike would say it too. By the way, I think

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when you have that and you have
a quarterbacks coach that has been that quarterbacks

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coach for five years or four years, rather in each of the four seasons

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that Burrow has been in the league, and they learn and they grow together,

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and you have Burrow saying I wouldn't
be the player I am without him.

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It's really hard to let that OC
go and then also let the quarterbacks

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coach go go be an OC elsewhere
when he's probably the best man for the

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job anyways, and obviously they think
he is. Burrow thinks he is.

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So it's that factor's huge. The
other factor for Dan, because you mentioned

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the jobs, there were other jobs
that were in on him was being able

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to coach Joe Burrow. Let's be
honest, it's not just the Cincinnati Chile

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and how nice it is to be
in a Midwestern town, as fun as

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that is to play out, and
he said how this feels like home because

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he's been here for eight years.
I don't deny any of that, but

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being able to work with Joe Burrow
was a big factor as well. Here's

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what Dan Pitcher had to say about
the Burrow factor on why he had to

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stay or decided to stay in Cincinnati. It's huge. There's a lot of

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people in this profession that I respect
who have great perspective, who have reached

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out to me and almost to a
person, you know. Their advice is,

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when you have an elite quarterback,
you hang on as long as you

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can. And we have that here. And not only is he an elite

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player, but you know, I've
gotten to know him so well as a

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person. He's a special person.
He's different. They don't make many like

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him. And to get to continue
working with him day in and day out,

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knowing that we have a guy that
can can win us a world championship,

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it's hard to put a price on
that. Obviously, continuing that relationship

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is something that makes sense for this
team. Burrow has ascended to the level

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he's as senditude, like he said, like we've seen not in small part

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dude to his work with Dan Pitcher, and he works closely with all of

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the offensive staff, Zach Taylor.
He worked closely with Brian Callahan. He

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worked closely with Dan Pitcher as well. But continuing that thread for Joe continues

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that bit of continuity as well.
And so when we talk about continuity,

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it's not just coaching staff, it's
also what has worked for this offense in

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the past, what has gotten them
through the adaptations they've gotten through in the

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past, and Pitch has been part
of that too, scrapping the under center

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offense, becoming a good deep ball
team, beating cover two after teams reacted

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to you being a good deep ball
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Pitch has been part of that process, collaboratively with Joe burrowa Zach Taylor

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as well. And something we're going
to talk about in just a minute coming

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up is how that philosophy and how
his experience in this adjustable Bengals offense,

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this game plan specific Bengals offense will
manifest in the future as well, so

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some more to talk about. Obviously, with the Bengals hiring Dan Pitcher,

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we also have to talk about how
they got there, how they got to

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this spot the timing really did work
out. Will continue the topic of Dan

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James saying on the topic of Dan
Pitcher in Cincinnati, of course, talking

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about what he brings to the table, talked about his experience in this offense,

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talked about how things won't be exactly
the same. He obviously carries himself

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a little bit differently too. What
did you think, Actually, we didn't

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plan for this, so I'm putting
you on the spot here. What did

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you think talking to Pitch in that
press conference, setting out that you've never

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talked to him before. Comparing that
to the way Brian approaches those conversations and

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it was certainly different. You know, I think Brian's unique. I think

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Pitch was unique carried himself well.
The thing that I like about him is

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that he admitted how fluid everything was
and how good it was to feel wanted,

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and how he ultimately deep down wanted
to be here but knew and had

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to prepare himself for the fact that
that might not be the case. And

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I get that. I can totally
relate to that. I think a lot

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of people can. If you've had
to move for jobs, or you're in

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the middle of should you stay,
should you go, you're interviewing for other

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positions for whatever the case is,
or whatever the job is, and so

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I like that he acknowledged that,
and he was open about thinking he was

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ready for this type of role,
this type of coaching role, and he

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was going to get it. To
go back, he was going to get

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it. He was going to accept
one. And I think ultimately he's happy

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it's here versus elsewhere, but it
was going to happen. So I think

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that's part of it, is how
honest he was, and that is something

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that Brian has been as well.
But I also think Pitch is going to

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bring his own unique experience, of
course, but his own attitude, his

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own mindset, and I do think
it's going to change some Everyone talks about

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it's the same eyes. You need
to bring in a new set of eyes

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they did, because his role is
going to change, and I'm sure the

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way he views offense is going to
change this Bengals offense a bit, no

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doubt. Yeah, I think that
we will see some differences, but the

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machine is the same and I think
that there are positives there. We've talked

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about that. I talked about that
in the previous segment a few minutes ago.

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The pieces that produced the success that
they've had, and the critics would

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say, the tribulations they've had are
still in place. And while there will

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be some differences with Dan Pitcher o
C Dan Pitcher more responsible for the entirety

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of the offense, we should see
differences within the same playing field. And

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we saw this team last year in
the OTAs in Mini camp going toward more

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under center, more play action.
We saw that come out with Jake Browning.

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We saw them become a really good
screen team with Jake Browning late in

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the year. Dan Pitcher obviously part
of those transformations as well, and just

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having been through that experience, whether
that was Brian driving it, whether it

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was Zach driving it, whether he
was driving it, is going to be

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invaluable for him as he thinks about
how to approach the NFL. That is

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increasingly, I think, for especially
for the really good teams, a week

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to week league where you have to
have answers on both sides of the ball

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for the kind of strengths and weaknesses
your opponent has, and where your limitations

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are, where your injuries are,
where you don't necessarily have the things that

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you might want in your ideal world
from a personnel perspective, and he talked

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about that as well. You can
kind of zoom out and say and look

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at the big picture of you know, who you want to be as an

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offense, and when you get into
the season, and Zach does such an

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amazing job of this, it's really
about who do we have to be in

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a given week to beat the team
that we need to play, And that

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takes into account constraints that you may
have within your own building and then who

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are we facing and I just think
we do such a good job of that.

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So there's been a lot made of
what did the offense look like over

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the final part of the season,
and I really just think that's a product

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of us looking at it on a
week two week basis, who do we

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have available to us, who are
we playing, and what do we need

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to do to win? And that's
something we'll always do, and so we'll

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look at some of those things that
we did well at the end of the

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year, and certainly Joe Burrow is
capable of doing anything you ask him to

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do, and so that's what we'll
do this offseason, is do a great

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job of deciding who we need to
be moving forward and then have the adaptability

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to adjust if we need to.
I'm not sure there's anything else you'd want

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to hear there if you're a Bengals
fan, like maybe you're hoping Joe Brady

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would be the one saying it,
or Eric the Enemy or whoever. But

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figure out what to do on offense
and then adapt as it goes. I

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works for me, like sign me
up. And I think that because it's

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kind of weird because he's in the
building and didn't come from elsewhere and is

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it new that some will be negative
on that, but I think that's exactly

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what you want to hear from an
offensive coordinator and that adaptability. By the

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way, think about this too.
Some think that Joe Burrow is this guy

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that just wants to go empty all
the time and isn't willing to do things

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and all of those things. Right, that's a narrative for sure. Was

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quarterbacks coach, the man that he
certainly wanted to be offensive coordinator is up

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there saying we're going to be adaptable
every single week. I think that that's

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a good influence there. So just
initial reactions to that clip and that's one

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that certainly stood out to you as
well. Yeah, and you still see

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them being adaptable. It just might
be that when Joe Burrow is a quarterback,

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they're doing different things out of empty
and when Jake Browning was a quarterback,

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they're doing different things under center.
They're doing different rollouts, different boots,

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they're getting Jake Browning just dream of
the sideline. No more f and

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nakeds and so, you know,
you have different different approaches based on who

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your personnel is, and you've seen
this staff do this throughout their time in

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Cincinnati. Is something that we've talked
to Brian Callahan about in the past,

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and they're missing guys. They see
it as a challenge to keep the offense

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on schedule or at least functional and
overcome where there might be weaknesses, deficiencies,

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injuries, whatever it is. They
have to game plan around that and

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try to find ways to push the
right buttons. And they're able to do

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that a number of times with Jake
Browning at quarterback. They were able to

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do that with some of these majorly
deficient offensive lines on deep playoff runts over

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the years as well, right,
and so the demonstrated ability to do that,

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Dan Pitcher being a part of that, I think that is encouraging.

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Another thing that we didn't clip,
so you're not going to hear what Dan

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Pitcher had to say about it,
but he talked about the running game as

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well. He clearly has a belief
that to be good on offense, you

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need to be able to run the
ball. That's something that they're going to

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look at as well. It's another
place where you look at their week to

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week adaptability. That's a big place
where it's really visible is the way that

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they're calling the run game differs significantly
based on what they're expecting their opponents to

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do. There are weeks where they're
running a bunch of toss plays and it's

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driving fans crazy because for whatever reason, they're not working well. Some of

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that is because they think that they
can get to the perimeter and run those

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toss plays against the opponent. There
are other weeks where they're running the toss

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plays, they are hitting and people
are like, oh, where has this

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been? Well, it's the reality
of how the opposing defense plays, or

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they're running a lot of trap,
or they're running a lot of those designer

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you know, windback runs to Chase
Brown, who's got a defined read.

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The deception is getting him and execution
is getting him into a big hole,

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getting him downhill and letting him use
his speed. Another example of that right

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that is very very visible and obvious, maybe more so than the way passing

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concepts differ, where you can't tell
where the ball necessarily is going. So

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would expect that to continue? Sounds
like that is going to continue, and

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that's what Dan Pitcher's talking about there. Jayson can also talk about how this

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came to fruition. Zach Taylor and
Brian Wow Dan Pitcher both talking about how

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lucky it was that this worked out
and how the timing worked out, so

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before we talk about how this came
to fruition for the Bengals, anything else

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you want to add around what you're
expecting picture to bring as oc after the

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conversation we just had. Yeah,
I think it's it's just pretty unique this

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situation where it feels. I think
there isn't as much excitement about it as

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I think there should be. And
I think that and I don't know how

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it's going to go. I don't
know how the offense is going to be.

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It should be really, really good. But this Bengals staff, they

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were able to stay together for the
most part for the past five years,

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certainly the past three years during this
run where they've been really good, and

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the coaches have grown and they've continued
to grow. And I think Dan is

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one of those guys that is going
to make a positive impact. He did

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discuss the run game a little bit, said that every offense needs to be

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able to run the ball. Also
said that it looks different for offense to

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offense or from offense to offense.
So I think that's interesting because I think

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that aligns with and we'll see as
the year goes on and off season goes

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on. I think they want to
be explosive in the run game. I

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think they want to get explosive there, dynamite there, and that's what it

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means. It doesn't mean forty carries. It means fifteen carries, and you

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get multiple explosives every week. So
we'll see there. But that's one thing

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that stood out. But I think
they hired a really, really good coach

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and you elevate him and you go
that route. It makes a ton of

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sense. And so call me crazy, say I'm looking through it through Orange,

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whatever the hell you want to do, I don't care. I think

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it's I think it was a really
good hire. I think it made sense,

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and I'm excited to see what Pitcher
brings to the job. The reality

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is that we know more about this
higher than you know about most coaching hires,

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because he's been in the building because
we know what his relationship has been

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with Joe Burrow, because we've seen
directly firsthand, not going back and looking

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through it historically, but we've lived
through the moments of Jake Browning taking over

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a quarterback, of Joe Burrow evolving
as a quarterback in the NFL, and

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Burrow has credited Pitcher for that.
Certainly, you've seen them discussing things on

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the sideline throughout game, So having
seen that firsthand, I think that that

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might be part of it as well. I don't know what the reaction is.

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I think a lot of people are
totally fine with Dan Pitcher or happy

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that Dan Pitcher is the Bengals next
to see. I think there's certainly people

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that think they should have interviewed elsewhere
as the Buffalo Bills reportedly are getting started

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with their formal OC process, and
just like the Bengals, they have to

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go through the same process where they're
interviewing Joe Brady for their full time OC

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job. Some Bengals fans would have
liked the Bengals to kick the tires there

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as it were. Again, I'm
not sure he was ever available. Don't

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disagree with that idea. If he
was. But the difference here is that

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there's a lot of familiarity with Dan
Pitcher. There's this idea that because he's

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in the organization, like you said, there won't be change. I think

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there will be, but time will
tell. We'll get a better feel for

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it as time goes on. I'm
really interested and we'll see if you have

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an opportunity to ask Dan Pitcher this
question, either at the combine or some

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time between now and the draft as
to how he sees his role changing from

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quarterbacks coach to OC going into the
draft, and we know the role that

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Bengals coaches play in the draft process. It didn't really come up too much

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in the press or today, but
interested to see how that is changing for

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him as well as his role expands
and he has more responsibility for the entire

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offense instead of, you know,
just the downs that he's assigned to or

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the position that he's assigned to.
So that'll be something interesting to monitor and

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see how that evolves as well with
him being the OC in Cincinnati, which

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is a unique place to be in
OC just because of the draft stuff that

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I'm mentioning, but we also know
that there was some fortuitous element for this

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coming together for the Bengals, the
Titans making their higher right before Dan Pitcher

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was scheduled to head out of the
building, potentially get oc offers from other

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teams. Who knows if those teams
let him leave the building, much like

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Tennessee didn't want to let Brian leave
without a deal in place. And it

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really did work out. I think
in the nick of time, the Bengals

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got through the process, got to
put an offer together for Dan Pitcher that

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was appealing enough to keep him in
Cincinnati, combined with elements like Joe Burrow,

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which he talked about as a big
factor staying with the elite QB.

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Who knows what the offer was or
if he had offers on the table from

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other teams, but whatever the Bengals
did to put it together kept Dan Pitcher

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in Cincinnati, and the timing really
did work out. Zach and Dan both

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talked about that in the presser.
Yeah. I asked Zach about it,

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the stress element of it, and
he said overall, it wasn't too stressful

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until the timing part. And it's
something we discussed last week. Is man,

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this could be the nightmare scenario where
I mean, think about it,

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Brian had interviews scheduled for Wednesday with
Atlanta. It's not like we knew for

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sure by Thursday he would have a
you know, be introduced as a head

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coach somewhere. So the fact that
the Titans acted quickly didn't let him go

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to Carolina. And I think Dave
can Allis can also think the Titans,

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because I don't think he has a
head coaching job right now. I think

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the Panthers would have hired Callahan and
that's probably how the Titans felt, and

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so they make the move quick and
get their guy, and that helped the

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Bengals because I think if you wait
till now, you're probably talking about Dan

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Pitcher being an offensive coordinator somewhere else. I think it's fair to assume that

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he would have gotten offers, maybe
multiple offers, you know, maybe it

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would have been he had an interview
with New Orleans multiple times, had that

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interview with Vegas scheduled, obviously,
had a couple of virtuals with New England.

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If I'm New England, do I
look at Dan Pitcher, a guy

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who's coached the number one overall pick
and one of the best quarterbacks in the

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league from the past four years and
say hey, we're taking a quarterback third

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overall, we want you in the
building. Hell yeah, you do right,

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Hell yeah you do. So.
I think there would have been multiple

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offers for him, So it worked
out about as well as it could have.

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And timing wise, I'm sure that
was probably the most stressful part for

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Dan as well as Zach in the
entire organization. Not that the Bengals wouldn't

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have found someone. This is one
of the best offensive coordinator jobs in the

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league. In the league, I'll
be very clear without that. But I

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think he is the right man for
the job. And sometimes you have that

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coach, the right coach for the
job, you have that person in house.

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Sometimes you do. And the Bengals
were lucky enough to have that person

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in the house this time, and
it worked out to where he didn't leave.

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They beat the curfew, they beat
the clock. Just in the nick

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of time. We'll find out how
things go. I just circle back to

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the idea that we know more about
this, and we know about most coaching

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hires. When most coaching hires occur, we don't know enough about their history

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to make a proclamation is this a
good hire? Is this a bad hire?

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We try we prognosticate, you always
do, but just like I don't

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know for sure. I think Brian
Callahan will be a good head coach because

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I know what Brian Callahan is about. I think Dan Pitcher will be a

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good OC because we know a little
bit about what Dan Pitcher's about. We've

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seen firsthand. Like I said,
we've seen what he's done in Cincinnati,

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but it hasn't always been perfect.
And who knows how that role transition plays

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out. It is a new job
for Pitch and with many of these things,

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you really have to do wait and
see. But it's exciting to see

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the Bengals turn the page their first
major coaching change, like major coaching change,

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coordinator coaching change in the Zach Taylor
era and Hop Pollock, I would

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count offensive line coach that was big, but I think not as big as

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a as a coordinator. You I
was thinking about Pollock, But you could

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say, by the way that it's
Pitcher perfect, not the first to make

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that joke, won't be the last. That's going to be our thumbnail for

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Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. That's gonna do

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it for this episode of the Lockdown
Bengals podcast, or back next week without

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a coaching search. Maybe a QB
coach will be announced, but no week

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long dramatic coaching news to follow,
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here and until then, Thanks for
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