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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
a new episode of the Poker Go Podcast.

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My name is Donny Peters. I'm
joined by PGG commissioner, the man

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who's been out there. Pitchforks are
being held to his neck. People are

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coming for him. Tim Duckworth,
how you doing. I'm good. I'm

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good. I'm currently trying on my
stainless steel ama that I'm going to wear

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to the studio going forward. I
need the protection from those pitchforks. They're

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coming for me. I've ordered a
shield, I've ordered a sword. I'm

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ready to go. I mean,
I don't think we need to, you

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know, ignore the elephant in the
room. I mean, let's talk about

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it. You know, what do
you got for me? I mean,

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listen, I've been going back and
forth. If I'm being quite honest with

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you. So for those who aren't
aware of what they're talking about, is

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you know, there's been some some
player feedback, some criticism about the PGT

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Championship event in regards to the qualifiers, the dream seat entries that were granted,

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which you know, honestly was probably
it's probably been emphasized more than it

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should be due to the Jeff Lennon
effect, where he was pretty much blackout

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drunk on the on the stream.
I mean, my thing is this,

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like I understand where the players are
coming from. I get it. You

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know. My argument against it,
I'm not saying that I'm making this argument.

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I'm telling you I'm like currently on
the fence, I think. But

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my argument against it is that Poker
Gro the PGT is giving you an opportunity

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at a one million dollar free roll. Last season on the PGT, we

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gave out what one million, three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars in bonus money

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the million dollar free roll, fifty
k champ ship bonuses for the majors,

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twenty five k's for the other ones. You get reduced rake, which I'm

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pretty sure the poker Gro Tour or
the Poker Grow events pioneered and are the

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only ones that really do it on
a regular basis. Some other high rollers

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have started doing it, but the
PGT that applies for all of our events

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that are held within the studio.
And then you also get to eat for

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free and play in arguably the most
luxurious place to play poker, and that

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is the poker Gro Studio. So
you know, and it's also listen,

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you play at the Poker Studio,
you get the ARIA dealers, the ARIA

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staff, Paul Campbell, all that
sort of stuff. I mean, it's

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it's a plus top of the line. So you're not going to get any

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of that stuff all rolled into one
bundle at another venue. You're just not

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going to I'm sorry, you're not. Like you can go to these other

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places and you can get maybe one, maybe two of those things, but

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like everything together, you're not.
So that would be my argument against is

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like you can deal with playing against
what at least was this year fourteen qualifiers

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because at the end of the day, we as a company have to try

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and make money to give that money
back to you like that. That's the

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reason for all of this, right, you know, the reason for the

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dream seats is we want to use
them as a revenue driver. That way,

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we're able to give you a million
dollar free We're able to put these

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events in the studio and have the
championship bonuses. You know, We're able

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to do all this sort of stuff, right, I mean, so that

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would be my pushback on the other
side. I get it, you're right,

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this is supposed to be like the
pgt's most prestigious event, of course,

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we try and make it one of
the most prestigious, meaningful events in

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all of poker. I get it. So you are going to run some

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risk with the other side. You
know, you're opening this up to some

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players that aren't the regulars, the
high volume players on the PGT. So

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I don't know. I just I
don't know if I know which way we're

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gonna ultimately go from this. And
I'll let you say your stuff in a

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second, you know, I just
ultimately, I think there needs to be

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a compromise somewhere. Much like most
things in life, whenever there are different

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opinions on things, the right answer
tends to fall somewhere in the middle of

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the two competing sides. Again,
I'm not saying I'm particularly on a side.

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I'm pretty much in the middle and
believe that, like I believe that

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there's some sort of world where everything
can work out. I thought we did

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that for the past season. You
know, I mean people, people aren't

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in our meetings internally, but you
know we're constantly fighting for the players.

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I can you know, you can
ask anyone in the company. Tim and

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I are generally screaming at people about
fighting for the players all the time,

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you know, So we did try
and together a tour that we thought was

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you know, a good compromise for
all parties involved, and probably leaned more

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player friendly than you might think reading
social media and some of the comments lately.

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So that said, I think there
are certainly areas that you know,

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the PGT can't improve. And you
know, Tim's already been out there talking

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with a bazillion players already, like
you know, hearing their criticism, hearing

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their feedback, you know, giving
our side of things, trying to find

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those compromises and whatnot. So yeah, I mean, listen, we're working

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through it, I guess is the
situation right, you know, we we

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obviously understand the importance of our players
and we love them dearly, you know,

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but we also have to put on
a product that we believe we can

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put on in a way that we
can continue to give back to you guys.

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And what I mean by that is
we do have to, you know,

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work to drive some revenue and all
that sort of stuff. So I

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don't know where that compromise is ultimately
going to fall, but yeah, they're

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they're probably needs to be some sort
of compromise within everything. Yeah, I

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think everything you said was pretty spot
on. I've always told the line that

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we're very transparent with everything we're doing, and we actively, and I underline

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the word actively, are reaching out
to players to get their advice on everything,

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whether it's you know, upcoming tournament
structures or the series, have the

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events you know line up, even
dates like we you know, we're just

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we're moving dates around to accommodate some
players because they want to go on you

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know, the WBT voyage and they
want to enjoy spring break with their families.

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So we have that flexibility to you
know, do what is best for

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the players, because I believe personally, whether this is correct or not,

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that this tour is the player's tour
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they are the ones putting up the
money to play the events. So let's

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create a product that's best for them. And obviously, yes, we are

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gaining out of it. We do
gain content, whether it is editorial or

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written or video or photography content.
One thing I want to stress, you

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know, this might be a bit
behind the lens or whatever, is that

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a lot of players have said,
hey, you know this rake back,

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you know, shouldn't be going to
these dream Sea winners. It shouldn't be

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going to the Jeff Lennons or the
Art and Chows. Well, there is

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no rake back. I think a
lot of people don't quite understand the process.

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But that rake is not the rate
they pay on these events, whether

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it's reduced or not reduced, is
not going to the PGT. It's going

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to aria. We've got to pay
the dealers, you got to pay for

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the food, you got to pay
for the bar, you got to pay

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for security, cashiers, et cetera. So I think I've talked to a

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lot of players the last few days
and that was their assumption that their rake

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is going to this free roll.
But that's not the case. And once

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they understand that, they actually a
lot of them flip sides. They're like,

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oh, so you just are giving
us a million dollars of like,

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yeah, it's basically amodican. We
could run a tour similar to other tours

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out there, where we have our
events, we have our season, and

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it ultimately culminates in whatever right,
like other than I mean other than the

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WSP circuit that does the million dollar
free roll at the end, I mean,

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like the WPT doesn't conclude with with
them giving a bunch of money back.

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I mean they did this year because
they missed the guarantee, right,

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But it's not like you know there
it was different in years past when they

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had that Tournament of Champions right and
they were putting like two hundred and fifty

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k, three hundre k into the
prize pool like that. You know,

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like you know, these these are
the tours and I listen, I'm not

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coming at the WPT. So please
don't, you know, jump down my

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throat Mats Savage and others out there. You know, I'm just I'm just

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saying, like we could just run
the PGT like it's it's all these events,

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it's it's this it culminates like you
know, the leaderboard winner is the

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leader board winner in that. But
we want to have like this big you

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know, crown jewel at the end, you know, and and we wanted

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to give a lot of money towards
it. And that was the million dollar

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free rolling. Yeah, so you
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perfect because it's not, you know, but we're trying to make it the

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best thing that it can be.
So yeah, you know, we don't

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we don't get that Raake as Tim
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with Aria, and we handle one
side, they handled the other side,

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and you know that's how things work. I mean this very this money is

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very much coming out of poker grows
pocket carry kats his pocket. So I

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mean, like what, you know, what you got to you gotta give

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a little bit there. That's where
I come at from the compromise side of

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things. And like you said,
I think the players, you know,

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once you kind of break it down
for them a little bit further, they're

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like, oh, you know,
I get it now, like it makes

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a little bit more sense. Like, you know, we're whatever I do

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wish. You know, some of
the statements that were said publicly weren't said

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publicly, you know, but I
guess that's hindsight is twenty twenty. You

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know, you can wish things in
the past or whatever, just only because

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as you've said, and as you've
done, you know, we communicate so

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much much with the players, you
more so than anyone, right, So

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can't people just talk to you?
Can't they send a text to carry?

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Can't you know like that sort of
stuff like that. They know enough people

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within the company that we don't need
to be blasting things on social media all

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the time, right, so,
and then and then if after our conversations

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they want to blast us on social
media, fine, but like they don't

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even give us a chance to explain
things. I won't say defend ourselves because

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I don't think there needs to be
any sort of defense, but just explain

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how it is, because that explanation
can then lead to them being as you

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said, you know, oh,
okay, it's kind of different than I

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thought. Well, yeah it might
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a tricky spot, you know.
And I don't mean to, like,

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you know, just talk about all
this for you know, the first ten

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to fifteen minutes of the podcast,
but yeah, it is what it is.

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It is fine, It's just yeah, it's it's better to be open,

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like I said. And I think, obviously the elephant in the room

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is the Alex foxhom thread, and
I have I have nothing against Alex Fox

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and speaking up. I encourage players
to speak up, not just about PGT

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but anything they want to. Uh. Hopefully we see Alex in the next

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few days playing PGT kickoff, and
you know, I can happily answer any

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questions he wants. I've answered lots
of questions via WhatsApp and text and Twitter

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dms the last few days, and
I'm very willing to answer any questions anyone

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may have. So but hey,
let's not uh, let's not bury the

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lead on the very successful season and
uh any championship. Well no, let's

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let's let's let's now. What I'm
saying is, hey, let's move on

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to the other the cool stuff.
Yeah, I mean we're moving on for

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sure. But you know, as
Tim mention, we always try and be

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transparent, especially on this podcast.
Maybe sometimes a little bit too transparent,

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but hey, whatever it is,
that is who we are, and you

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io. All right, we talked
about that stuff with the PGT Championship,

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the quote unquote elephant in the room, and we're going to continue to talk

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about the PGT Championship. We have
a winner. Daniel Smilkovich out of Germany.

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Took down the whole thing, five
hundred thousand dollars half a milli in

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his pocket. He defeated arden Cho
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But you know, this special event
kind of like it that way. Second

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place was two hundre k, first
place five hundred, so nice jump there,

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three hundred k, Leon Stern third, Daniel Weinman fourth, Arthur Martirosian

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fifth, and Darren Elias rounds out
the payouts in sixth place. Fifty of

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the fifty four players that were eligible
for this event showed up, and yeah,

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who didn't show up? We had
Adrian Matayosh Open Ruslin Pride deck from

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WSP Man and Alex Kolev boo.
I'm booing everyone that didn't show up.

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That's fair, I mean, well, how can you not show up?

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I I would have bet that Adrian
Motteo showed up. I would I would

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have lost a lot of money on
that. If if you would have,

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like if there would have been a
book, I would allaid whatever the price

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was to bet on Adrian Matteo showing
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agree we're wild cards, but I
will say that we got we got one

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person. Yeah, so who didn't
you expect? There's there's for sure one

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that I didn't expect, and that's
Dean Hutchison. But who else For the

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others? When I saw Dean Hutchinson
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First of all, I was like
who is that? And I was like,

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oh my god, it's Dean Hutchinson. So he was one. And

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the reason why we say that is
because through all of the outreach efforts he

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couldn't reach out to Dean Hutchson for
whatever reason, they couldn't get a hold

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of him whatnot. So yeah,
you know, it was hard to gauge

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whether or not he was going to
come or if he even knew about the

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thing. Yeah. The other one
to me was also Alexander Riere, the

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Frenchman. You know, We've mentioned
that I played poker with him, but

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he seemed very disinterested in you know, having to travel from probably France here

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for the win and then home.
I just was like, he's probably not

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coming, and let alone I see
him in the morning. I said,

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you know, I'm like, okay, maybe we're getting everyone. So he

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was the other one, and then
pretty much, you know, everyone else

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we expected to show up or at
least we had heard from in some capacity,

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so they weren't going to be surprises. As for Daniel Smilkovich, I

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mean he he he became a I
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of people. During the PGT Last
Chance Series. He had some success there,

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made some final tables, people got
to see him on the live streams.

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It was a lot of fun.
He came into this event sixteenth on

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the PGT leaderboard, so very much
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He had thirteen hundred and sixty six
points. That was from six cashes for

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a little bit over two point one
million dollars. You add in the five

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hundred K that he won from the
PGT Championship, so two point six and

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a half million dollars in PGT prize
money. The biggest results for him from

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the twenty twenty three season, where
he had fourth place in the WSP fifty

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thousand dollars high roller for seven hundred
and thirteen thousand dollars, and interestingly enough

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that was won by Leon Sterm who
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And then he had third in the
WSP Paradise twenty five thousand dollarg GG millions

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high roller for one ninety two thousand
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very much a deserving winner. Plays
a very fun, very aggressive,

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very creative style of poker. There's
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of big bets in general involved with
Smilkovich. So hopefully we get to see

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a bit more of him on the
PGT, you know, coming out playing

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within our studio. We'll see if
he sticks around for kickoff. You know,

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he could be one of those guys
where he plays enough WSP and other

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stuff, you know, WSP Paradise, if that's back, et cetera,

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he could he could qualify again with
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you know him already being in town, maybe we see him stick around for

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the kickoff, stick around for Poker
Girl Cup and take that route. That's

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uh, I think that's what I
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I think he's a really fun player
to have in these events and you know,

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get onto the final tables and get
onto these live streams, so so

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yeah, good for him. And
then Arden Show she was one of those

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So ardenthow was there on behalf of
them. She ultimately runs it too

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second place. It looked for a
time that she was gonna win the damn

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thing. She was a ship leader
during three handed, she was hip leader

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during heads of play. Ultimately,
Daniel Smilkovich was able to you know,

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come back out on top and uh, you know, get the thing done.

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Ardenthow impressed a lot of people.
You know, I don't think people

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really knew what to expect at first. And to start the final table,

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she played pretty conservative at times,
but then it was like out of nowhere,

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she just started bluff raising people and
it was like, oh, hold

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on, like what is happening here? And she showed us she has a

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lot of game. So it was
a lot of fun to watch her battle

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with these other players. After Darren
Elias went out in sixth place, you

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know, she was up against Spilkovich, Sterm, Daniel Weinman, and march

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Eurosian. I would say Wineman is
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Sterm and march Erosian. But it
seemed like kind of all these these

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guys didn't really know how to play
against her. I felt like early on

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they were like, we're just going
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gonna overfold and stuff. Yeah,
but then she started to fight back,

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and I don't think that they really
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she was making some pretty crazy plays, some some really good well timed bluffs,

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and they were all working. And
it was probably Leon Stererm who like

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he got a big chip lead when
he won a huge hand double through Daniel

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Smikovich. But then like it was
like Arden chose to start to like wreck

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him and he just kind of like
got deflated in a way, and so

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it was a really really good showing
from her. Overall, I thought it

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was a really good event, you
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it was a lot of fun.
It was cool to say the impact.

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You know, high stakes players,
people from overseas, dream see winners,

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recipients, all battling out for that
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I guess it's a good time now
to mention or remention, you know,

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I guess the one change that we
have for next year that does like

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this year this season. Sorry,
yeah, I'm still like twenty twenty three

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PGT Championships. I'm still like in
the twenty twenty three PGT season, right,

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But the biggest change is that you're
going to have to have three cases,

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yeah, in order to qualify.
So that's as it pertains like the

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top forty of the leader board and
getting into this event. That that's going

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to be the biggest change, the
one that's going to have the biggest effect

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on the season and the leaderboard.
So you're gonna get people like we already

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mentioned him, Dean Hutchinson, somebody
at this final table, Daniel Wineman,

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basically everyone that made the wiss AP
Main Event final table. You can't just

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have that one cash on the PGT
and then make it to the championship event.

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You're going to have to play some
other stuff, get some cashes under

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your belt, and the PGT qualifying
events have a minimum of three and then

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get in, which I think is
good. You know, I think it's

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good for it's good for the player
base in general. It was funny because

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a lot of the players were like, how the hell that help you get

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in? I'm like, well,
help you actually qualify? Like, like

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you know, there's like he wants. That's pretty good. I know,

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like he actually had he finished like
twentieth or something on the leaderboard, Like

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he actually had a decent year,
right, I mean he probably had better.

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I can't. I think he finished
lower than Spilkovic, but he had

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like a more results, right,
Like at least they stuck out to me

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more. Well, Yeah, he
had the two wins that was the USPO

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and he's seventeenth WSP bracelet. He
had nine total cashes in PGT events one

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point four million dollars in winnings,
so two victories alone is extremely good.

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Yeah, of course, And people
were just kind of wondering how he because

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he doesn't play a ton of the
stuff within the studio. He plays,

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yeah, very selectively. Obviously,
he plays a high volume WSP schedule.

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He was down at ws P bhamas
all that sort of stuff. So you

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know, there's that that said,
as long as the w CIP keeps counting,

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you know we're going to be drawing
people from there. But it kind

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of works out because Poker Grow is
the official live broadcast partner of the DOUBSIP,

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so we get to showcase a lot
of those events, so you know,

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you do become familiar with those players
quite a bit. You know.

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But the players like the Daniel Lineman's, Stephen Jones, Adam Walton, et

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cetera. You know they're going to
have to play a few more PGT events

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and hopefully get in, you know, with some cash. But listen,

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you make the Basbee Man event final
table, you're cashing for a ton of

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money, right Hopefully then you can
you know, play Poker Masters, you

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can fire in the Last Chance series
that sort of stuff. You know,

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we we don't think that you have
to come out and play a full schedule,

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but you just give a little bit, you know, to show that

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you belong. I guess, I
guess the one outlier from this year's final

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table was Toby Lewis because we did
see him in the studio at times.

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You know, he's like he'll play
mixed games, he'll play some poo or

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whatever it might be. So we
do see him pop in every every now

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and then. But of course you
know he got in via the wisby Min

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event, So that that's the biggest
change as it pertains here, which I

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think is a good change overall.
Now, moving on twenty twenty three PGT

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season, even though it wrapped up
in twenty twenty four, is over.

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It's done, it's dusted, see
you later for a season of the tour.

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We have the million dollar PGT Championship
is coming back. Okay, there

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will be opportunities to win some dream
passes which are going to get you into

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an invitational to win a dream seat
us. We should explain that a little

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more. Yeah, Well, first
I'll say stay tuned on details because we

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don't have all of them ironed out
just yet, but they are coming.

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We're working through them with our team
here. But one of the changes we're

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having this year is basically there's going
to be what's it called the Dream Seat

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Invitation or Dream Pass the Championship Dream
Seat Invitational. There's going to be a

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satellite tournament to win dream seats to
get into the to the Championship, right

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as opposed to this year where we
just gave some way. There will be

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some giveaways, I'm assuming you know, here and there throughout the season,

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but a lot of it will be
you know, you'll have your you'll win

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into the Dream Pass event, right, You'll get a dream Pass, You'll

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win into the Dream Pass event,
and then top X players that finish in

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that event will get a dream seat. So five five dream seats. Yeah,

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so a little bit of a different
plan of attack from our end,

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you know, kind of going back
to what we kicked off the beginning of

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the episode with you know, we
try and leverage these to hopefully generate some

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revenue, generate some buzz, all
that sort of stuff, because we do

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want to continue to be able to, you know, deliver seven figures plus

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in bonus money every single year,
and if we do that, you know,

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we obviously have to generate some stuff
on our end, and that's the

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the impetus behind all of this you
know, and you know it gives people

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an additional shot. I would say, you know, you treat these like

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you treat them sponsor exemptions in a
golf tournament, stuff like that. Right

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now, it's going to be hard
probably for one of those sponsors to make

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a run. Now we did see
it from arden Chow this year. It

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can happen. But you know that
can be a good story as well,

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right So I don't think it's the
worst thing at the end of the day.

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So I like it. I like
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that's the dream Pass stream seat thing, whatever you want to call it.

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I'm sure Tim will be bugging me
to share details as we come along.

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It's been, honestly, it's been
a wild like start to the year,

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just with everything with Last Chance,
with the championship, we have the kickoff

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kicking off today, which we're going
to talk about next and then we have

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Poco a couple later this month.
So it's just been go, go go.

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The PGT kickoff event. Why don't
you tell us you know a little

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bit about that one. It's it's
brand new for this season, so why

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don't you tell us a little bit
about that what it is and you know

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why. It's I guess meaningful to
the PGT. Yeah, it's as the

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name sounds. It's kicking off the
twenty twenty four season inside the Pogo Studio.

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Starts today, which is Thursday,
January eleventh. Five events, the

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first four or five K buyings.
The final one is a ten K buying.

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Every event starts at one pm,
plays down to the final seven.

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They're going to come back the next
day. We're going to stream those final

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tables on poker Go. The niche
the twist to this series little gimmicky,

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but we thought, hey, if
you were going to get you're going to

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do something like this has to be
at this side of the year. Double

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points for all cashes, so people
that are going to play this going to

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grind, they can shoot up the
leaderboard. You know, I even heard

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our poker Go commentator Jeff Platt is
going to be playing today, so he

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could be on top of the PGT
leaderboard tomorrow. That's kind of crazy,

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but yeah, you're gonna get a
little head start on the players with the

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double points, and the goal is
that, hey, you get off to

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a good start here in these slightly
smaller buying events that maybe you come play

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with the big dougs next week at
the Poker Go Cup. You come play

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uspo Plo series, you know,
all our events because you got this little

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bit of a head start. It's
a way to try and you know,

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boost the fields a little bit in
the bigger buying events. And yeah,

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we'll see how it goes today.
Yeah, I mean kind of. I

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guess a big picture plan of attack
of ours for this PGC season PGT season.

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Excuse me, I'm by the way, I'm battling like the fucking colder

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flu and it's driving me up the
fucking wall. Anyway, shout out Remco

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who like came into the commentary with
the other day and was like I'm sick.

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I'm like, oh cool, amazing, love you hate you, get

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out of here. So but we
want to make the PGT a little bit

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more accessible right now. Of course, we have to balance that, you

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know, going back to the whole
like compromise thing. We have to balance

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that with the fact that, yes, this is a high stakes poker tour.

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You know, it's high rollers.
That's what we want to feature,

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of course, but you know,
having a select number of five k's a

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year is still pretty good overall.
So we're gonna have these four We're gonna

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kick off Poker Girl Cup with a
five K. There's always like five k's

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via the PLO series and stuff like
that. So yeah, there's gonna be

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a handful of five k's, so
maybe we'll see, you know, kind

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of some different faces rise up.
You know, I really want to see

407
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:07.319
some players that we don't always get
to see via these like this PGT kickoff

408
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:12.160
series, like have some success,
parlay that into the Poke Girl Cup and

409
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.240
go from there. Like that's what
I'm looking forward to the most. I

410
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.720
don't know if that's going to happen, right, but that's what I would

411
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.720
like to see come out of this
whole thing. So so yeah, that's

412
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:26.720
my big I don't know my big
hope. I guess my big wish for

413
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.599
the twenty twenty four PGT season,
we're going to kick off pork rol Cup,

414
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.079
as I said, with the five
K, which is also a lot

415
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.759
of fun. Porker Cup has some
some slight changes right to the schedule.

416
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.240
What are they this year? Yeah, it's going to be starting with a

417
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.519
five K. As you said,
We've got a series of ten k's,

418
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.640
two fifteen k's, and a twenty
five K finale, basically making that finale

419
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:55.559
you know, as we've just touched
on more accessible to the wider playpool that

420
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.559
are used to playing our events.
So you know, instead of having this

421
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.720
big job from tens all the way
up to a fifty, now it's ten,

422
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.599
fifteen to twenty five. Ideally you
could play all eight events. You

423
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.000
know that it hits that play pool
a little stronger. And yeah, we'll

424
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.640
see how the twenty five K FINALI
goes first time. We're going to try

425
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:19.480
that. Hopefully it gets a you
know, super big turnout and definitely change

426
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:26.000
the way the season kind of you
know flows and dictates for these no Living

427
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.839
hold them series. And then for
all of you audience members out there,

428
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.279
viewers out there, we are live
streaming all the file tables from PGT Kickoff.

429
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.960
We are live streaming all the file
tables from Pork Yo Cup. So

430
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.480
these PGT kickoff events are two day
events, bring back the file table the

431
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.039
next day, so kind of going
back to our normal schedule. That means

432
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.839
I don't have to go into do
commentary at eleven thirty at night. So

433
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.720
starting tomorrow, which is Friday,
for five days in a row, we're

434
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.119
going to be having the PGT Kickoff
file Table live streams, which will be

435
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.480
a lot of fun. Rimco and
I will be in the booth for those,

436
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.759
and then starting on the twenty six
that'll be the first final table for

437
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.480
the Poker Girl Cup, fourth edition
of the Poke Girl Cup, Tim,

438
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.559
can you name the winners? The
previous winners? Yes, Carry Katz,

439
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.519
Jeremy Osmas, Daniel Mgarana. Easy, Wow, I mean, of course,

440
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.440
yeah. I mean that's just not
that's not that hard. But I

441
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:21.920
had to put you on the spot. All right. We're gonna do a

442
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:27.960
couple of predictions here quickly for the
twenty twenty four PGT season. We'll see

443
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.440
how we do with these. We
need to look back at how we did

444
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.759
for the pg Poker Tour or the
PGT Championship once. Maybe we'll do that

445
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.920
on the next episode. I don't
know, maybe we won't if we did

446
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:41.359
really bad. Who knows? All
right, who's going to be who is

447
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.000
your twenty twenty four PGT Player of
the Year, sir? I'm gonna go

448
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:51.599
with Alex Foxen. And the reason
is, like we've mentioned, some of

449
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.119
the buyings have dropped, some of
the points have changed a little bit,

450
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:03.039
I think Alex is more likely to
you know, why to scheduled then Steven

451
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.119
Chidwick and Isaac Hackston and Daniel m'greanor, and obviously he's still very good.

452
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:15.960
So that's my kind of who I'm
leaning with right now. Okay, I

453
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:21.039
went with Jeremy Osmas. Yeah,
I think he's gonna just be in there

454
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.079
battling in all these events, you
know, five K, ten K,

455
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.960
fifteen K, twenty five K,
whatever it is. Maybe this is the

456
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.759
year we see him take the leap
to play super high rollable, you know,

457
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.279
depending on what happens with that,
which we haven't in the past.

458
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.720
I know he was on the fence
last season, so maybe you know,

459
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.240
he gets over that fence this season. But you know, Jeremy always performs

460
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.160
very well, you know. I
I think that, you know, living

461
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.119
here in Vegas, I think that
that helps, right, you know,

462
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:53.720
because you can just drive on down
put together a high volume. So I'm

463
00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.680
gonna go with him. So yeah, uh, will Daniel Legrn you finish

464
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.279
inside the top forty of the PGG
season. And the reason why I bring

465
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.759
this question up is because he's got
a new plan of attack for twenty twenty

466
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:13.160
four it's quality over quantity. So
is he going to finish inside the top

467
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.480
forty if despite the fact that he
at least he says he's going to play

468
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.039
a lower volume of a schedule.
So this is a little bit of a

469
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:30.119
trick question because the top forty might
not necessarily mean that is slightly different to

470
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.119
qualifying for the championship, which is
the top forty eligible players. Right,

471
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:39.400
So I would I would think he's
not going to cash three times. No,

472
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.160
no, no, no. What
I'm saying is that, Okay,

473
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.519
last year's leadable, Daniel Wyman,
had his one cash, he was in

474
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.720
the top forty, but he wouldn't
take He wouldn't under these years, although

475
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.119
he'd be finishing in this forty eligible
man, come out, Okay, that's

476
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.400
I just wanted to clear it up
one hundred percent. Yes, he'll be

477
00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.559
in the top forty eligible for the
PGT Championship. Yeah, and I'm with

478
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.359
you. I agree. You know, even if he does play a lesser

479
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.240
schedule. He already said, you
know in that in that video he did,

480
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.359
you know, reviewing his twenty twenty
three stuff, and then you know,

481
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.039
talk about what he's going to do
for twenty twenty four. Maybe he

482
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.240
doesn't come out for you know,
these five k's as part of the PGT,

483
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.440
but but most specifically his WSOP schedule. Right, if he's not going

484
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.319
to play you know, the fifteen
hundreds, the three k's, that sort

485
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.160
of stuff, and he's only going
to focus on the big stuff, then

486
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.160
I really like his chances. You
know, he can he can be better

487
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.240
prepared for those, better focused,
you know, better you know, a

488
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.079
better mental state, all that sort
of stuff. You know. Just again,

489
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.279
the quantity quality sorry, the quality
over quantity approach. I think I

490
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.680
think could uh do very well for
him. You know, I think it

491
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.680
might be easy. I feel like
every single year, because he hasn't won

492
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.160
a bracelet in Vegas and so long, that we're always like, yeah,

493
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.000
he's gonna win, when he's gonna
win, when he's gonna win one,

494
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.400
you know, So I feel like
it might be easy to kind of back

495
00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.519
off that in a way, but
maybe it actually works the other way,

496
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:07.280
where just the fact that he's able
to put forth better quality of play and

497
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:13.559
not worry so much about the quantity
of the tournaments that he's blasting in and

498
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.320
then he does extremely well. So
yeah, I think he's going to finish

499
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.880
inside the top forty. I think
he could do pretty well overall, probably

500
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.039
you know, top fifteen, top
ten, even with a lower volume,

501
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:29.679
which is you know, of course
great for everyone involved. Steven Chidwick.

502
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.000
Okay, So Steven Chidwick has finished
the first year of the PGT he finished

503
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.559
eighth on the leader board. Second
year he finished first, was the PGT

504
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.400
Player of the Year, and then
this past year he finished third. So

505
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.679
is Stephen Chidwick going to finish inside
the top ten once again for a fourth

506
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.880
year in a row. I feel
like we have to say yes to this.

507
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.000
How can you not say yes?
Yeah? I mean he he has

508
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.800
to put in the most volume.
You should have said top five when we

509
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.719
finish in the top five. Well
I was, I honestly thought he finished

510
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.280
in the top five of the first
year, but it was just outside eighth,

511
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.559
so I was gonna go with that, so I'll say top ten.

512
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:13.679
I mean, yeah, he's he
puts in an insane amount of volume,

513
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:21.239
right, plays everything PGT related.
He plays a lot of the different games

514
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.079
in terms of like PLO and Mixed, et cetera. So he you know,

515
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:30.440
he's gonna be out there likely playing
those series. I mean he's and

516
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.760
he's a freaking robot man. Like
nothing seems to affect this guy, Like

517
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.039
it doesn't matter how good or bad
he's running. He's just gonna play his

518
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:43.480
game and play the best that he
can and the results are gonna come from

519
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.079
it. So yeah, I think
that he's gonna do extremely well. And

520
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.679
I think he's just a shoeing to
be in the top ten every single year.

521
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.079
Now there is a world where he
just doesn't put the volume in,

522
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.639
right, I don't know what that
looks like. I don't know when that's

523
00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.559
ever gonna come, you know,
does he just kind of to be like,

524
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:01.840
hey, I'm just going to kind
of back off this year in general?

525
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.960
I just don't see it, right, you know, when when I

526
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.000
hear Steven Chidwick on some live streams
talking about how he basically lives out of

527
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.440
a suitcase, right and just travels
from stop to stop all over the world,

528
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.039
I don't think this guy's ever slowing
down. So I would expect very

529
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.400
much the same for this next series. He played all the last Chance events,

530
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:23.960
right, Yeah he did. Yeah, So whatever he's I mean,

531
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.119
he's for sure gonna put in a
huge volume I think, And then yeah,

532
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.360
he's gonna vision in the top ten, probably top five. If anyone

533
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.920
was a sure bet to do that, it's got to be Steven Chidwick for

534
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.559
sure. All right? Who will
be this season's breakout player on the PGT.

535
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.840
I think it's very obvious. I
will tell you that. I put

536
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.960
down three names. Oh wow,
I think it's obviously going to be Jeff

537
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:54.199
Lennon. He is gonna, God
help much give me a serious answer.

538
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:01.000
I actually don not this about I
will say this. I will say this

539
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:07.360
for the listeners out there, is
that we might say someone who might already

540
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.320
have broken out in general poker,
but this is specific to the PGT,

541
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.679
Like you want to have a breakout
on the PGT, right, so continue,

542
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.480
Yeah, I'm looking at like,
to be honest, I'm going back

543
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.440
to PGT Sprint series we ran,
which was our first kind of foray into

544
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.400
the five k's. You know,
we have these five ks. Now,

545
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:34.000
two names that we played all those
events that never really played our events,

546
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.480
Mark Ioli and Jeremy Becker. Now, I mean these guys are known in

547
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.559
the Vegas poker world. Obviously,
Jeremy Becker wins every win tournament ever hosted,

548
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.440
but that success outside of the PGT
now we're doing some more five ks.

549
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.159
We have this double points. Obviously
they know what they're doing. Maybe

550
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:59.360
we see someone like that kind of
breakthrough, you know, win a couple

551
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.559
of events, stop playing some more
ten k's, do well there, you

552
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.400
know, want to compete for the
points race, et cetera. We see

553
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.320
someone like that, some Las Vegas
locals that you know, take a little

554
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:15.760
step up and you know, run
like the sun. I like your train

555
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:21.440
of thoughts. My three are David
Coleman, who played all the PGT last

556
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.719
chance, maybe not the final one, but played the majority of them.

557
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:29.440
He did not play them all because
he won the cod Player pokatur at the

558
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.519
Venetians, so you had to skip
out on some events. Way to go,

559
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.719
David Coleman, so boost to his
bank. Well good, that's in

560
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.800
my favor. Yeah, but he's
played a lot of PGT events in the

561
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.400
past. I think last season he
finished the season with forty three points,

562
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.519
so nowhere near like the top forty
or anything. Yeah, but he's someone

563
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:51.519
who I think can play a lot
of these five k's. Very good player

564
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.239
can have some success there. He
always he usually would play like the ten

565
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:57.320
k's and then kind of go from
there. You know, if he had

566
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.599
some success, maybe you play a
little bit bigger, et cetera. So

567
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.119
I'm kind of picking him to have
some success via these these five k's and

568
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.440
ten k's and then and then go
from there. I also got Kristin Foxen.

569
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.639
Of course, she's not a breakout
player in terms of like the grand

570
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.199
scheme of poker, but I think
we can get her into the top forty.

571
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.079
She was close this year, right, you know, so I think,

572
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.079
you know, she can put in
a lot more volume this year get

573
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.840
her in there. And then I
got Eric Baldwin. You know, we

574
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:29.679
saw him, We saw him a
lot more last season, right, specifically

575
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.039
in the ten k events, and
he did have some success there. I

576
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.000
think we see him a lot more
in these five k's and ten ks that

577
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.679
we're going to be doing this year. Very good player, you know,

578
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:44.039
lives here in Vegas. You know, he eats breeze and sleeps poker like

579
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:49.440
that's all he does. So yeah, Eric Baldwin, you know, the

580
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.800
King. Let's go. Those are
my three. I like him. Yeah,

581
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.760
So I think overall it's a it's
a pretty good group of people.

582
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.000
I mean, generally, I think
you and I both agree it's it's these

583
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:01.400
ks, like we got to see
what we get from them, Yeah,

584
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.960
and who comes out? So yeah, all right, I don't think we

585
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.880
have anything else to talk about,
now, Okay, good, all right,

586
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.960
that's gonna do it for us.
We will, I don't know,

587
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:17.239
we'll regroup after the kickoff series.
We'll talk about how that series went.

588
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:23.280
Hopefully we have to talk about Jeff
Platt number one on the the PGT kickof

589
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.760
That would be cool, you know, I mean that's exact, like,

590
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:30.559
that's exactly what this series is built
for. You take a shot at that

591
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.639
five K price point. Maybe you
have some success in the first one.

592
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.239
You take a shot in the second
one, maybe you have some success again.

593
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.679
Next thing you know, you're the
next lattis Tomas Aalskis. You're playing

594
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:43.239
all this sort of stuff and you're
on the PGT. Let's go. So

595
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.400
yeah, that's exactly what the PGT
kickoff is built for. All right,

596
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.719
that's gonna do it for Tim Duckworth
and myself. My name is Donny Peters.

597
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.119
Appreciate you guys as always tuning in. Let's go PGT Season twenty twenty

598
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.639
four. Let's make it the biggest
and the best yet, and we'll talk

599
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:09.480
to you guys next time. See
us night. The Chenny expressed, okay,

