Get ready for it. Hey, July twelve, twenty twenty four, allegedly,
according to that thing we call a calendar, this the o'celli effect,
and you hearing us live if you're just after eight pm Eastern time in what
we used to call America. If it's ah, let's see, about a
minute and a half past the hour. You're hearing us live on the twelfth
day of July. But somehow the people outside of my house still think it's
the fourth of July, or popping their fireworks and all that good stuff.
And don't I sound great. I'm barely belting out my usual voice here,
having a little bit of a rough time. Anyways, it is what it
is. It's Friday. That means you can join us. Who's us myself,
my co host b Pete is with me, and you could join us
at three one nine five two seven five zero one six that's three one nine
five two seven five zero one six, or reach out to me Charles dot
Ocelli on Skype and I will call you into the show. And uh,
I always hate to say this because every time I say it, I wind
up having to talk a lot. But I go, you know, I
don't want to talk too much tonight because my voice is shot as it is.
Aaron Franz will follow us at ten pm Eastern, so we're not gonna
have a long show tonight. But still, somehow I got a bad feeling
I'm gonna wind up talking a lot, and let's try and move things along.
Let's be a little more pifty and concise when we're making our statements and
move things along. I'd like to get more callers in if more callers show
up, and if not, I'd like to, you know, rotate through
people quicker. So let's do that. Whatever's on your mind is fine.
I'm not gonna moved for politics, but what else is old? Here we
go? Uh? I got a couple of sound clips I could play and
all that stuff. But before we go anywhere else, pet Pete, how
are you doing tonight? Man? Doing some rain that we desperately need.
It's been off and on for the past two days. Other than that,
Fish was able to get some stuff finalized that work schedule wise, so I
bike. Hopefully in a couple of weeks, I can tell you death on
Dallas. Ah. Well, that sounds good. You know, I'm definitely
going if I'm in one piece. So here we go. I'm making arrangements
with people by the way, trying to see what we can work out.
Bring along some goodies to either sell at a discount or give away at the
at the table again. But I'm not going to have the same kind of
stuff I did for the tenth anniversary last year. But you know, I'm
gonna have a lot of stuff that you know what, ten bucks. I
think ten bucks is more than fair for a brand new signed book from from
an author that didn't make it to the conference, or you know, some
cool item or whatever. Ten bucks. I'm going to try and do ten
dollars items. So that's what we're gonna do. I'll tell you what,
though, think if you got a couple of things, you can let go
for twenty because the money I saw changing hands, it's there and you might
as well try to smack it. Yeah, but you know, it's not
about the money for me. I got to make something for sure. And
it looks like miss is always going to go with me, and we're gonna
drag Frankie along too. Now. I don't know how much participation they're gonna
have, but you'll probably see him at the table at some point, but
I got a feeling my son's gonna get bored and want to go somewhere,
so you know, they're not going to probably sit for the whole thing.
But I'll be there the whole time. I am the MC. It is
an interesting conference, and more details on that, plus discounts discount tickets by
the way, Ocelly ten is your discount code for ten percent off on all
the tickets. But also they got discounts on travel, discounts on rooms,
all this stuff. So anyway, more and more I'll be announcing that and
putting it out in the text of the shows, just so everybody knows.
But anyway, we're still ways away from Dallas. Gotta survive till then.
I gotta tell you, none of the dreams in my house are working BP
so uh yeah, we can't flush a toilet or let the water go down
in the tub or nothing. Okay, Uh no, drain is draining in
my house. Uh that's one problem that I'm having over here. I gotta
tell you, life is. Life is just weird. I gotta laugh when
things are just so screwed up. But anyway, it is what it is.
Maybe you guys got interesting stories from your life call in three one nine,
five two seven five zero one six. So you're gonna let me know
about Dallas soon. But what's happening currently? Anything? Anything good to report?
Striking news stories, good stuff out there, bad stuff out there?
What you got man? Wello, wow, that's the biggest hit behind is
just a little bit ago. Alec Baldwin got his charges dropped. They dismissed
his case with pregnice too. We surprised me. B Peter can appeal that
decision with prejudice uh and try to refile, but as right now, he
walks away free. So, as I've told people before, I'd rather go
with Dick Cheney than work with Alan Bolder. I see. Well, you
know it's interesting because they were broadcasting the trial yesterday on uh on a live
stream thing. Excuse me again, that paramount has uh they called the Inside
Edition channel. It's one of their free channels or whatever, and uh they
were oh cour TV also Okay, I didn't know that, but anyway,
so they were carrying this thing and it was a long, boring ridiculous like
you know, what, what is the thing about when you get a gun
and it's a prop and do you know what's going on, and they were
kind of looked to me like they were going for it, you know,
really getting into it. Why was that all of a sudden dismissed? Uh
do you know the details? Yeah, A poor there was when they were
gathering evidence investigating this thing. There were some live rounds found in one of
the gun belts that one of the actors, in fact, I think the
Alec Baldwin's gun belt itself, the belt and holster was one unit. There
were some rounds in it and they were tested and apparently there was a report
put out, and the prosecutor says that they weren't aware of the report.
As soon as they became aware of the report, they went to the person
who's supposed to upload stuff for the trial, right, I mean, you
know all these courtses do shit online nowadays, so they were supposed to upload
it. And the prosecution during the testimony asked for a hearing for a dismissal
because of Brady violations, which means apparently there was something in this report that
could have been exculpatory to mister Baldwin and therefore would have been given to them
under the disclosure acts, and it wasn't prostcutor says, well, as soon
as we realized we had it what it was, we made it available and
the judge said, you know, that was a clear Brady violation. The
thing is when she dismissed it, she dismissed it with me. They can't
refile those charges. So while the boss had to appeel that decision to be
able to refile. Over months from that, they may say not world returnament.
You can refile if you want, and she may refile. But they're
very serious about this, and it's because Baldwin had a dual position. He
was an actor, but he was also one of the producers, right,
and the you know, being a producer, you have some responsibilities to what's
done on your production. But the judge decided that that was an irrelevant point
earlier in the case. So basically they're charging him with the I don't know
what exactly what the charge was. Was it manslaughter, was it murdered,
It would have pulled eighteen months just like the armorer did. Sounds to me
like a manslaughter sounds to me like a manslaughter charge. But you know it's
a rough thing. I mean, but once again, what you're telling me
is the involuntary manslaughter so the rich guy doesn't get punished in a court.
Oh, color me shocked. Listen, I got a I got a callerse
Armor was found guilty and was charged eighteen months. Well, some people felt
that being the producer, he should have some amount of responsibility as well,
because he's responsible for what goes on on a set. Yeah, but somebody
working as a you know, with a job as an armorer for you know,
for guns for TV or movies or whatever, guarantee you not exactly the
richest guy on the set. So you know, anyways, we got a
caller nine one six area code. Sorry what okay, well, yeah,
let's get to the caller. Baldwin did offer a settlement with the family over
this deal, but he hasn't paid it yet, so you may see that
civil action come up here round. Oh yeah, no, you got civil
actions. But this was the criminal thing, so you know, that's a
separate issue. But if he settles with the family, then again, you
know, depending on the timing of it, it might cause them to not
necessarily push for such a prosecution if they got a settlement, or it could
even be an agreement that they don't want to cooperate with the prosecution that that's
come up before, and then people wind up going to court to argue about
that. Anyways, nine to one to six area code. And I know
we got other callers already, so let me go to the first one and
h yeah, your life. Go ahead, whatever's on your mind. I
don't know you want to talk Alec Baldwin, but that's where we started today.
Anything on your mind is fair game, though, go ahead, got
you Chuck Danny here in northern California, and just the weather update here at
at the eleven and yesterday was one hundred and eleven and we came with the
break of a couple of days and then we had about a nine day period
of from one hundred and two to one hundred and twelve. So it's been
hot here hot in parts of California. See, but all of California is
not one hundred eleven degrees, right, I mean you got varying temperatures,
don't you? Or is that just the peak of the temperatures in California.
It's where we're at now. If I go two hours less than two hours
east, where to get into like the coast San Francisco Bay. It won't
even hit seventy degrees on the coast, so it's kind of got nature's air
conditioning there. But it's been really hot. But that's a weather report here.
But the subject I want to talk about I saw in herret and the
Jerusalem Time, I mean Israel Times. They're talking about ninety f when the
October seven. This is no endorsement of Hamas, but it looks like they
use something called their soldiers or port called the Hannibal Accord, where they if
there's an action, they start just basically killing everybody. And it looks like
there's there's quite a bit of evidence starting to build that the death count that
happened October seventh may have been at some of it may have been at the
hands of Israelis. Or your thoughts or I had not seen that report yet?
Had you seen that Jerusalem Post you said it was in was the Israel
Times amount of arrests? Which is which is in Israeli? It came out
about five days ago, and then the Israeli Times a day later they seem
to kind of confirm this. And I know that there's been quite a bit
of debunking some of the some of the rape and sexual assault claims that you
know, any situational we're kind of shop we you know, for whatever reason,
they start sending a narrative to want to go to war, and after
thirty seven thousand casualties confirmed and goes and just to shine with fourteen thousand children.
I think this is this is not a just war. It's what it's
turned into. Well, you know what, what this is my open question
always with this, which is what war ends up being a just situation because
always civilians who didn't ask for it end up getting caught in it one way
or another, no matter what. Whenever a larger military action occurs. It's
just it's the way of the world. So you know, find me a
truly I know people are going World War two and you know, guaranteed though
even in a just cause, you're going to have innocent victims. It's it's
it's a guarantee. Well, I never know what to make of these stories
or how far it really goes. I am not somebody who trusts, you
know, the Israeli state anyway. But but then again, I'm not one
of these guys just constantly screaming about you know, Zionism either. So you
know, I don't know what to make of it except that it's an ugly,
ugly situation all the way around. Uh And I haven't seen these reports.
I'm trying to find it. Actually, I'll set up a lot of
Times of Israel story on it. And it's referring to Haretza's Apparently Horetz is
the one that broke the story, and it's it's uh yeah, it's they're
saying that. In the first few hours of this thing kicking off, there
went an order issue from from the Military Group of Military group with the Hannibal
Protocol, which is one that was supposedly done away with in twenty sixteen,
and it was a procedure that the IDF implemented to cut down on the number
of kidnapped soldiers. Apparently one of Hamas's big things is when they go out
and do something, kidnap any soldier that you can one for propaganda purposes too,
so they can throw them off a roof after we drag them through the
streets and then or if we won the dead body back, you know,
you're going to have to give us a bunch of prisoners you got in jail
so the IDF came up with this procedure. It basically says, you do
when this is enacted, you do everything you can to prevent captured soldiers,
which means if you know they're traveling in a car and you can take that
car out, killing the insurgents but also losing a military member, it might
happen. And all Israeli soldiers know that you might be fighting in an area
that's about to be bombed. They've got a couple of instances that they're in
question. There was one base that was attacked where they kidnapped I think it
was seven, Yeah, seven surveillance soldiers were kidnapped and fifty three soldiers were
killed. And they're wondering that if in dis melee, is'll hit them with
a rocket and wipe them out. Well, okay, so well now,
yeah, what you're kind of telling me is we have a shoot the hostage
protocol here, which is something that I thought was sort of obvious when they
turned around and they saved like three or four people that they said were being
held hostage, and there were like one hundred and fifty deaths, and it
was on both sides, and I sat there and went, you it costs
benefit analysis, right, what kind of operation gets you know that many people
killed to save you know, three people or four people or something. And
I just so what you're telling me is they get into a circumstance where it's
like, look, if you can take out the enemy insurgeon and you also
happen to kill some of your own people with it. Yeah. Here's the
description the time of Israel's has and it's quoting from this reporter says it at
seven eighteen am, less than an hour after the mass era on Thought had
begun, an IDF soldier monitoring surveillance cameras reported an attempting kidnapping of a soldier
stationed at the Eres crossing, which borders northern Goza. The response from command
was an order for hannibal at Eres corrects alleged and an instruction to dispatch a
drone attack. Half an hour later, a second abduction was reported and the
same order was said to have been issued. Similar orders were also given the
soldiers operating inside their REM camp and Nahla's coast, and, according to testimonies,
a Hermes four to fifty drone attack the REM base. Once Shaltad commandos
were already there fighting to regain control from the terrorists. So it's kind of
like it says, it's unclear from the report whether the supposed order was implemented
at nahail Oz as seven surveillance soldiers were nevertheless kidnapped from these and fifty three
soldiers were killed. And there was another report in November of last year allegend
that a small number of civilians may have been injured from fire from a military
chopper as they were fleeing from the Supernova music festival that was the one held
in the fields at kabootri M And the report was denied by police, however,
and resulted in false claims from the Palestinian authority that Israel had allowed occupational
police and army to kill all of the three hundred and sixty four party goers
mowed down by terrorists. So then you know, it's propaganda war when these
things come out. Well, and that's the other thing that's going to go
on here is no matter what right Israel is going to say, effectively,
look, they're the monsters. They are killing our people, even if they
killed some of their own in friendly fire, are probably going to try and
attribute it to a maas uh, and it's going to happen both ways,
Right's. Well, one thing to take into account too, that when this
happened, you not only had a mos members, you know, you had
some people that were wearing the uniform of a maas, but you had also
then a lot of civilians got involved in this, and they were come to
find out they were also taking hostages. I saw a video the other day
where a gentleman says that he of some reporter doing a story so that he
had talked to both sides, both people with the Moss and with Israel,
and that some of these hostages were taken by civilians and later turned over to
a mas Some of them were kept like the girl that was set free,
that was working as a servant for some doctor and his son in their house.
So that's you know, that's neither here nor there. That's just one
of the things that's come out in this. But you know, it's another
point that Israel is making is that when a mosque was doing this, all
these people are dressed in civilian clothes. They're not wearing uniforms. So you
know, for someone to be taken out, someone walking down the street could
be an enemy combatant And basically when Israel's on defense, that's their rule.
Everybody is an enemy combatant until you know, our wise kind of like a
mosque as civilians or we don't go after civilians, but every man and woman
of military age is a potential enemy. That kind of crap. So the
ideaf has their form of it, just like a moss has their form of
well, right, I mean, and this is the thing again, even
going back and talking to guys who served in Vietnam, you know, and
they talk about the confusion between who is a civilian and who is not,
uh, you know, often caused a bunch of problems. And you know,
and here we go. So like I said, once you once you
uncork this thing. Once you you know, once you open Pandora's box.
Man it you know, it's not clean and precise like they show you in
movies, you know what I mean. It is a messy thing. And
it's a guarantee that there will be innocent people killed. It's a guarantee there
will be people that are hiding themselves among forces who are you know, pretending
to be civilian that are not. It'll be you know, and it'll go
back and forth and The only thing that's guaranteed is that there's gonna be a
lot of blood spilled just so long as this stuff goes on. I mean,
that's the way I see it. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but
that's what I and that's what I'm hearing here. But of course there's the
intentionality, right and and people say, well, you're supposed to, you
know, engage in certain rules and all this. Let's be honest. I
don't think anybody ever really does I. I really don't think so, because
there's always discoveries. Well, that was a mistake, you know, And
how often are these mistakes, you know, misfirings, oh, Eric rockets,
you know, et cetera. How often those mistakes really mistakes? Even
right? So you know, ira open, I would say good portion of
them could be a mistake, but it's a mistake that's inherent when you're in
war. Well but there you go. But it's all inherent, you know,
the mistakes and the malicious act are all inherent. It's a guarantee,
so you know. Anyways, Yeah, Danny, go ahead, what else?
What else do you want to report about this? Yeah? Oh no,
i'most I kind of agree with all your insut. You know, I
just it just kind of really kind of caught you that, you know,
I've been kind of discussed, you know, all these in all these works
with the Civilian Casualist, but I just remember the first videos of all burned
out videos, and it was like, well, how did the mask burn
out? All these videos? They just all these vehicles. It just seemed
like there was more to it than what the story being sold. That's not
a depensive hamas, but it's just like how this stuff could spend and it
starts a justification to kill more civilians. Just it just seems the no I
have to answer your question about burned out vehicles. I was looking at some
of the photos of the Nova festival that's going on and where people had parked
from that, and it was mass chaos when people trying to leave, and
there was a road leading there that you see a lot of pictures out there,
and it's just a massive cars and a lot of them are burnt,
right, And a lot of that came from they had a lot of RPGs
and they were firing those and they were also actually setting cars on fire.
I mean, you know, with Molotov cocktails and things like that when these
guys came forward, they basically had strapped on their back everything that they thought
they could possibly use, even though they're coming in on you know, an
old Yamaha one seventy five fig buro with no fenders there. You know,
they got everything they need on their back. But yeah, a lot of
that was RPG fire, and I'm sure a lot of it was probably rocket
fire from helicopters that were coming to respond suiting the people. You know,
you got a mass of three hundred people and they're all Some of them are
half making because they've been at their festival dancing with their so long on.
But the other half, you know, they're all clothes which ones I don't
know, get them all boom they light it up. So I'm sure that's
where some of it came from. Yeah. See, there you go a
lot of it's like which where do you fire? Where do you not?
And then it's just a big blanket and area, you know, and again
it's going to be a guarantee. That's yeah good. That's the big argument
about this protocol. People are saying, hey, it gives the ideaf the
permission to take out anybody in response to a kidnapped soldier, meaning we're gonna
take out civilians and we're might take out a bunch of soldiers too. You
know, there was one hit where like fourteen soldiers were hit and they were
determined that, yeah, it was from a rocket that was fired from a
tank. I think, well, so, Danny, I'm gonna lot of
front. Yeah, so, Danny, I'm gonna put you on hold and
move along to the next caller. But hang out words, I'll come back.
Thank you. All right, excellent, So let's see whoever's next.
I can't quite see this right now. I'll tell you my throat's killing me.
My eyes are not functioning correctly. Well when do they function correctly?
But next caller up there, I can't even see your airy code way I'm
sitting right this second, so you're live and uh yeah, what's on your
mind tonight? James? I could already tell from the rumbling I heard rumble
before your voice. I knew it was you, Jimmy as soon as I
heard that, how you doing tonight? Man? Man with a fan?
Hey there, so well, was gonna yeah, go ahead, ah,
all right, it started podding, hages. What can you do that's on
your mind. I was gonna talk small lot of things, but you guys
don't why. I hear it on some jerk rot something called Agency eleve and
stold it last week, So I'm not gonna give away information in the morning.
ABC could save me if they want to Part two. Oh wow,
So ABC, ABC stole some information from you. Hey, really quick about
it. Tell a minute now, we have to refer this to the legal
department. Was there something you said on here, Jimmy. If it is,
you know, we'll go back for you as best we can. Yeah,
well, Friday, everything I discussed suddenly like two three days ago came
up from a quote unquote researcher on something called ABC eleven. Guess what this
best topic was. Papa JFK Watergate, my Rant Compton And they didn't even
get my drift. So they can all kiss my ass they want Part two,
ABC can payment. Yeah, they gotta at least pay for background work.
Which, by the way, that old Joan Mellen thing the other day,
Jimmy, just so you know, I took a listen to the clip
you said, and she's telling a story on there about that judge telling her
something after the fact. After the book was published, and this judge said
that Beckham made a statement. So that to me is the second hand statement.
So when she says I don't remember getting that in an interview with him,
it's because she didn't and she was getting a little mad at me too,
but because she felt like your questions and my tone was challenging. Yeah,
I don't know you does that. I mean, I'm doing is what
she wants. I'm trying to build on her foundations of research. I know
when I try to ask question, I mean, well, just as long
as you understand, I did the best I could with it. And but
I didn't realize that this was a statement made to her after the book.
So that's not from an interview of her interviewing Beckham, it's secondhand information.
Yeah. Well no, I'm pretty sure that was in her original book.
Well I also know I heard it in her two hour speech at Trumple University.
Well it could be like I just can't a sudden one time ten years
ago. No, no, no, but I'm just saying. In the
clip you sent me, she where she's talking to Brent Holland she says,
look this guy Charles, I forget his name. The judge from Alabama told
her that Beckham made this statement so information. That being the case, it's
secondhand information and therefore it's not from an interview with her talking to him.
But she also said that she takes everything he says in the interviews to her
to be gospel. So if she conducted an interview and he said it,
she's saying that she believes it. Now, I'm not so sure. I'm
not so sure. I'm on her side about that because I think Beckham might
be a little challenged due to circumstances beyond his control. Uh. And you
know, you may have to question some of his statements because you know,
he's been pressured over the years, he's had he's had different problems over the
years. And I'm not saying that you know that he's a liar. I'm
just saying that I would question his memory a little bit, not take everything
he says is absolutely gospel, that's all. But you know me, I
never take anybody's statements absolute gospel, right, right, And I would agree
that this is the problem. The Rabbi talks a lot of shit, right.
I need to get one straight story of this man. It's like legally
recognized as a stateful well and as far as and as far as I know
right now, Beckham is still alive and avoiding people. So you know,
last I checked, he was strong. DP Get the emails I sent you
at two three weeks ago with all these people's information. Yeah, well no,
I every time you send me email addresses, I mail out to people.
I tried to contact, even the guy from Saturday Night Live, Garrett
Morris. I tried to contact everybody you send contacts for man, it doesn't
mean they respond. But Beckham, to my knowledge, though other people who
have talked to him in the past have tried to reapproach him, and he
wants nothing to do with anybody. He doesn't want to talk to anybody anymore.
From what I understand, I know he is. He says he's done
with Jeff k R. I could says, well, it might be too
damn bad for you. Jeff k may not be done with you pel Yeah,
that's a possibility, and you know what, some people change their minds.
I mean, look, I'll tell you the story of the guy who
took the pictures in the pantry. What was his name? You know what
I'm talking about. In the RFK case, Scott yard, Jamie Scott Inyard,
Right, he told me, yeah, no, no, no,
not the patrolman. The kid who was in high school still, who was
there with a camera and was in the pantry at the time of the shooting
and jumped up on the on the table and was taking pictures, and then
the LAPD confiscated his pictures. You know what I'm talking about now, yeah,
yeah, okay, So he said pictures. He was picturing that patrolman
that took the bunks of polaroids. Right, No, no, no,
I'm talking about the kid with the camera who was actually, you know,
still in high school at the time. He's since gone on to be a
professional photographer, etc. But in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, he said
to me, look, I've got a long term illness. I don't want
to talk publicly anymore at all about the case. Nothing. You know,
what the lawsuits done, what it's done. I'm done. And I said
okay, And I never bothered him again. And the next thing I know
is Don Jeffries is interviewing him. So, you know a few years later,
so I called him up and I said, you know, mister Enritt,
you might not remember me, and oh yeah, I remember you.
Okay, you remember me. Well, you told me you no longer wanted
to be bothered about this, and now you're talking to Don Jefferies. Is
it just done or are you willing to talk again? What's going on?
And he just basically was like, well, I kind of changed my mind.
I want to go back out, and you know, I've gotten better.
I thought I wasn't going to get better. I thought I was dying,
and it turns out I'm not. So you know, I've changed my
mind in these past couple of years. So a few years later he changes
his mind, and people do this. I thought that the guy who gave
Oswald to ride to work was done talking, and then, you know,
and then he comes out with a book, right Buill Wesley Frasier, And
you know, people have had serious problems with that book ever after. I
mean, you know, but whatever. What gets me about Duel was his
late pronouncement that he saw Oswald walking away from the building on the back side.
I kind of, oh, well, then when he came out with
that, and I'm thinking, that's first I've heard in the past thirty years.
What the hell's going on? Yes see now and what's really funny about
Buele is if you go back to thirty five years ago when he's at that
Bougliosi mock trial. Right, he's making some odd statements on the witness stand
on that mock trial that he never made before, and you know the whole
thing about, Yeah, Oswald's in the doorway, but it's not him in
that picture. He's further back in the shadows. According to Bule Wesley Fraser
when he was doing that mock trial thing with Bogliosi. If you listen carefully,
he says, yeah, I'm in the doorway there. You can't see
me in the shadow. And who's behind you, mister Fraser Lee Harvey Oswald.
So you know, thirty five years ago, Oswald's behind him at the
time of the shots. Right after the shots, he sees him out on
the street. According to recent statements, we're missing something in between, aren't
we. When did Oswald cross in front of him and go out to the
street or did he go back out another door and end up on the street.
That was Ougliosi's trial that he said that that he was behind him.
Yes, I got to go look at that. Yeah, take a look
at his I know his it was in the first part of his testimony or
towards the end. I don't remember which part, honestly, but I do
believe it was. Spence actually redirected him on this, like who's who's in
that doorway, because Spence was trying to get him to say that Oswald was
the you know, love lady figure, and He's like, no, no,
no, that's not him. But but I'm in that picture a little
further back, but you can't see me. Oh okay, and is there
anybody behind you? Yeah, Lee Rvy. Oswald's behind him and it's just
like an off handed thing and nobody follows up, and I go, what
the hell? Okay, I'll have to go watch that again. Yeah,
yeah, take take a look Atison for the weekend, because I mean,
I have the DVD here, but I know it's available on you YouTube of
Frasier's clips, so you can find it publicly, no problem. Oh yeah,
definitely it's on YouTube because I remember watching them before. But yeah,
I'm definitely going to go look at that it again. Yeah, so you
know, look, people's views, memories ideas about what they saw and didn't
see have evolved over the years. And in some cases it's just memory evolving,
because at all times your memory is subject to revision. It just is.
Okay, people argue with me all the time. No, you remember
things, and that's the way it is. Now. You get a little
new information, all of a sudden, you fill in a blank and you
don't recall when you filled in that blank. I'm telling you. You can
see it when people make solid accounts. Oral histories are great for this because
you'll see a change in oral history after a couple of years. And you
know, in some cases it's really insane, like in Custer Gerald Custer case.
You know, I believe that Custer believed what he was saying whenever he
was saying it. But if you line up his statements, you know,
once he started talking to David Lifton and everybody else, oh boy, did
things vary. And then he says, you know, oh, I had
extra copies. This is how I made him. I put them under the
sign at the Naval hospital. I mean, all kinds of additions and revisions
to Custer. And I don't think he was just making stuff up, but
he was getting new information and adding to it. Also, he's the only
guy to walk into the ARRB interview with like, you know, two conspiracy
books under his arm, which is pretty funny, but he was, you
know, clearly being contaminated. And that's the thing. Sometimes interviewing these people,
you give them information and unknowingly they'll add it to their own ideas.
Even if they're resistant to adding to their own ideas, sometimes they will add
to it. And you know, this is the disservice that's been done with
the repeated interviews to some people. Others have stayed steadfast to their stories exactly
the same, you know, over the years, and you can you can
watch that too. You watch somebody being interviewed in the eighties and nineties,
the two thousands, and then this year, and you'll see, you know,
some things change. Eventually they want to say something, but I will
say, I don't believe everything except Bruce Paine tells the exact stories she's been
telling for sixty point five years, to the even to the point that she
knows they're cute to cry, Yes, Chris sick. Some people would say
that, you know, eight actors do their part. Will you know that's
that's true. I mean, look, I always used to love listening to
There was a certain time period with the Judy Baker interviews when she would start
crying and like the one part that always cracked me up up and she would
always start crying about her last conversations with Oswald, you know from the supposed
that last phone call is so But but I love it because a bunch of
times she goes and he said to me, don't forget the name Bobby Baker.
Always with the same she told she came out with a new name,
but you know, don't forget Bobby Baker. But Bobby Baker and name somebody
else connected, such a joke. But Bobby Baker is hilarious. That's the
first point I brought out to Walt Brown in like two thousand and four when
I wrote that article with him is I said, well, listen to this.
She's sitting there crying and going she says, don't forget the name Bobby
Baker. Now. What she's referring to, according to supportive listeners, hers
is the fact that Bobby Baker is you know, lbj's bag man. Right.
Problem though, what was her husband's for his name, Robert, So
Robert Baker. Bobby Baker really shouldn't be a hard name for her to have
to remember, and it would be a weird thing for Oswald to say,
don't forget the name Bobby Baker if he knows she's married, Oh, absolutely
to Bobby, you know, and it's she always has. She's been such
a well you ever noticed when she goes to name draw Yep, it's always
in a super dramatic fashion. Well, is that either she's gonna tear up
over it or it's gonna be one of Oswalt's You know, he made this
statement and had I known the significance of it at the time. This kind
of crap. Uncle will give out awards this year, Dallas, I love
it, Uncle Actor? What is it? Uncle Trampa contactor, Uncle Uncle
Marcello, Uh, don't forget Uncle Marcelo or Uncle Trumpacante will keep an eye
on you. Yeah, the mob guys are going to keep track of her
and the backwards on DM. You know he was all behind that Uncle DM
stuff. Oh yeah, I mean, come on, how serious am I
supposed to take her? You know? Anyway? If you but if you
look at the way she weaves it, though, she you have to give
her credit for creative writing. I will give her credit for that. No,
it's great fan forget that this is how all this stuff started. But
it's her talking with her creative writing teacher in college. Right, it's great
fan fiction. Look, this is what they call fan fiction, right,
where you're a fan of something. You're a fan of a story. Usually
it's a fictional story, and you're a fan of it, and then you
write the continuation of the story, right, or you write you know,
but no, this is this is Lee Harvey Oswald. Fan fiction is what
it is. If she came out and said that, I would tip my
hat to her and say, you know what, you have generated a whole
wide world of fantasy that is interesting. You can't do it, man.
It cuts off the No. The minute she does that, you know,
she cuts off money flow. She's not about You won't hear even on a
dying deathbed confession. You'll never hear her admit if this is all full craft.
No, it would be so great, though, because you know what,
she could make a seriously good living. I think giving a master class
on bullshit, I mean that would be it. It's like take the master
class of acting with you know, de Niro, and a master class in
bs with Judith very Baker. It's not. But it's not that she did
such a good job with the BS. It's that she convinced a few integral
people that she nailed it with the BS, and those people are the ones
that put her up her Her actual words have never stood up the scrutiny,
But it's just the fact that she had Martin what's his name and all of
them supporting her at the beginning, and then she hooked on the Fetchers coattails
and that's all it took was enough to establish her that she could say anything
and make a buck off of Shackelford and those Yeah, those guys. Yeah,
I couldn't think the others. But it's it's hilarious, I'll tell you.
And I've gotten to now talk to a couple of people who went and
did her conferences and off air, you know. So I'm not going to
identify who it was because I don't have a recording, but it is so
funny because it's like, how why did you do a conference with this woman?
You know? Why did you do her conference? And at the end
of it, you know what it came down to with a lot of them,
they didn't invite me elsewhere. They invited me there I went. I'm
like, so what you're telling me is that you would go to the you
know the most, you go to the whatever. It doesn't matter because you
were invited, so because you got some acknowledgement, this was worth you throwing
your name, your reputation in with hers. Really, nobody's got an answer
for that. But you know, we'll see. But that's just cic.
I don't think people have attributed her reputation to any of these people. These
people, you know, their reputation was established law before Judith and well except
for those that kind of watched all with Judith, like Haslam and others,
but it was I don't understand it. They don't think it tarnishes them at
all. And to be honest, I can't see where these people the esteem
that they're held in, you know, indicates that being associated with her has
been detrimental. That's the part I don't understand. I don't eat you.
That's crazy. I don't either. I mean, I wish I could figure
it out, but anyway, look, I don't want to. I don't
want to dwell on this too long question for Jimmy. Though you got a
question for Jimmy He made a comment that the guy at ABC eleven, now,
Jimmy, ABC eleven is here in North Carolina. It's in Durham,
I believe maybe Raleigh. Anyway, what is it about ABC eleven and do
we need to take any kind of action here? What is it that we're
what's got your chafed? The big boy? Yeah? I want to look
this up to ABC eleven. Huh call the other day their topic was there
a research? So called research? Germany's top was hopper JFK water date and
Iran counter right, let me parameter? Is this the North Carolina ABC eleven?
I have no idea because there's a Raleigh f K. Yeah, there's
a Raleigh, Durham AYBC eleven. So I was just curious if that was
its name? Was Dale something? Dale? So okay, yeah that's a
sir. If you don't know last name or was that light last name?
I just remember Dale, and I remember that it just came out a few
days ago, so it should be pretty much tough with their feet. I'm
not getting anything coming off. Let's see, well see I've got ABC eleven
John F. Kennedy. A new name emerges in JFK assassination investigation at a
North Texas thrift store, a CD and a new fifty nine year old JFK
mystery. Uh is it is it that one? Yeah? I was back
July last year said this, but I did read that one. Okay,
Well, I was just curious there new name emergence. They got this new
name emergence thing, Paul. They just say it's that stupid Cuban general.
In two and last year they had something Ladybirds diaries or whatever, and blah
blah blah. I mean, you know, I don't know. I I
would love to see you sent me the articles or whatever. Jimmy. I'd
like to track this down and see if they really did steal something straight up
from my show, because that would be funny and I'd like to hear what
I'll do. It would be still in my history, bros. So then
I'll find it and then I'll post that in chat. Yeah, post that
in chat because I love to see what it is. Any Anyway, anything
else you want to ask to or should we take a break here because where
a would he kind of deep in well thinking of you know that they may
have heard this stuff here. I do want to make a point, you
know, the other week, I made a comment it, oh what's her
name? On MSN you've seen joy read that she had culturally misappropriated Donald Trump's
hair. Well, I noticed days after that she got her hair cut.
It's still blonde, but it's like not even a sixty fourth of an inch
on top of her head. So you know, just point that out.
Maybe we know people are listening to us for the cultural and esthetic points that
we bring out BP making a cultural impact and also a secret fan of the
readout. Huh, because you're watching her, I mean, you know what
her hair dow was. I have no idea. No, I see her
on YouTube clips. I wn't watch that crazy bitch. I want to waste
my time. Okay, see, okay, so you watch her on YouTube,
all right, that's cool. You know a male dude else, Yes,
it turns out to tell Oh it's a Los Angeles okay, Los Angeles
ABC eleven. All right, that's all that's different. I'm gonna say I
could understand it coming from here, because these people in this state can be
absolutely clueless. Remember there was a girl on the on the local station.
She went onto NBC News and then I think went onto the Weather Channel.
But She was the one that was caught after one of these hurricanes sitting in
the canoe. Oh, the flooding here is terrible. We're here downtown Washington,
blah blah blah, and you know they've got storm seerge that came in.
Sitting in the canoe, beautiful water. And while she's doing the live
shot, two guys were walking through the water behind her, the waters just
above their ankles. That's hilarious. Didn't somebody get busted. Didn't somebody get
busted doing something like that from a resort or something one time where they were
supposed to be at flooding and they were like, it's some resort and some
guy walks by with like one of those the island drinks in his hand.
Didn't that happen on one of those news stuck down and c was pretending to
be an ir well liars, that's all right. Brian Williams said that they
shot at him in a helicopter to right the NBC guy right. Then,
somebody did a good one. They drew the presidential limo from sixty three and
they had Brian Williams sitting in the back seat between Jackie Nice. That's hilarious.
Anyways, Yeah, I'm thinking we should take a quick break and uh
and then come back around and see if anybody else wants to call it.
So, Jimmy, I'm gonna put you on hold and uh, you know,
we'll get to some more stuff. Maybe maybe we can find out about
this, uh ABC eleven taking a listen to the show and stealing their material
from Jimmy James getting their alleged research material from from us, not their researcher.
Huh. Okay, who got that paycheck? You know? I see
he's still looking for the link too. Okay, well, Jimmy might be
short a paycheck here, man, he might be able to paycheck, is
all I'm saying. I tell what I'm saying. If we need to start
a vocal campaign to take up for, you know, our man with a
fan, which bring we need an update on that situation. Is it's still
a man with a fan? You know? I have a fan in search
of the man. I haven't heard from that guy, and I gotta go
on Facebook to find out. But look, we're going to take a quick
break and come back around and see what else we can learn. Three one
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some headlines to run by us before we go back to the phone. So
B Pete, what you got. Well, we're just running down the list
of stuff that happened, and a lot of us political I'll trying to stay
away from that. But one story I read here, I'm trying to find
the link. I can't find it. Elon Musk with X or formally the
platform formally known of Twitter. Yeah, got hit with uh apparently a letter
or notice from the EU that X was in violation of their DSA Act.
And it simply came out of a situation where they contacted platforms and said,
hey, if you do censor this stuff, we're going to find you for
being in violation of the DSA and all the other platforms kind of knuckled under,
and Musk is saying, note, apparently he's been charged with violating their
rules and he is impeding data from researchers. Etc. Etc. And I'm
trying to think, Okay, well, you know what's the deal. Apparently
the EU, you know, they've been trying to get rid of Twitter and
push them out for a long time because of supposedly violations. But Twitter says
or Elon Muscus's going to fight this one, So apparently they're going to go
to court over it. Also, another little note on Elon Musk. Apparently
there was a five hundred million dollar lawsuit against him when he ask laid off
all the people once you took over. Well, and that wall suit just
got tossed, so must one on that one? Yeah, what else is
old? Hey, listen, I got a clip for you, and I
want people to listen carefully at you know, to the President of the United
States, if you don't mind, because I think people missed this. I
don't know, maybe I don't see a lot of articles being written about it.
But I heard this statement and I thought it was quite remarkable about who
the vice president actually is. But let's listen to a question and answer from
July eleventh. According to the clip that was sent to me, mister president,
your political future has hung over the NATO summit a little bit this week
Speaker Pelosi made a point of suggesting that your decision on whether to stand the
race was still open. George Clooney and a hand for a handful of lawmakers
have called on you to step aside. Reuters is reporting tonight the UAW leadership
is concerned about your ability to win. J A. W and just endorsebe
but go ahead, thank you. My question for you is, how are
you incorporating these developments into your decision to stay? And separately, what concerns
do you have about Vice President Harris's ability to beat Donald Trump if she were
at the top of the ticket. Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President
Trump to be vice president. I think she was not qualified to be president.
Let's start there, Yeah, let's start there. Anybody gets that?
Okay, sorry, b PTE. I did interject one piece of politic in
here, but let's continue on. What else you got? Well, you
know, and that I don't know. That whole thing was nothing, but
uh, as someone described it, I think it was Beth failed as an
audition for the Hollywood types that are getting ready to slam their checkbook shut.
You know, that was a make or break presser. Supposedly everybody was watching
so they could see if he was going to screw up. Well is Joe
Biden. You know he's going to screw up. So I don't know what
bar they wanted him to pass to see if his mental acuity is enough to
continue on, because we've been we've been arguing this for what three years now
about his mental condition. I mean, that's basically why the hell they hit
him during the campaign. You know, they blamed on COVID, but they
didn't want him out there letting people know exactly how far gone he was and
every this is just another one of those Harvey Weinstein elitists saying that they're so
surprised when they've known all along what's been going on. So you know,
they were trying to catch him on that. Yeah, it was a flood.
It could be easily, you know how he is. He's got Trump
on the mind, just like calling just like calling Zelenski Plutin, you know,
I mean, that's the way his mind works. So that's what we're
dealing with. That's our president. We get what we elect there you go.
So just just want to point it out that you know, again he's
standing there as strong as he buy. You could see the effort. You
could see him grit his teeth when they mentioned George Clooney and lawmakers are making
statements. I like that too, But anyway, let's continue on away from
the politics. What else you got, BP? Well, this is you
know, this is an offshoot of the new twenty dollars minimum wage for fast
food workers in California. Wendy's, Jersey Mics, a couple other stores that
I've heard of. They're slashing jobs and cutting hours to cut down on the
cost. I mean, this is one of those everybody said, you know
this was going to happen. But in of course, to somehow think that
you know jobs that you know. You you enter the market learning how to
work. Your first job is worth twenty bucks an hour to try to perform
some kind of living laid Sacramento people on the left, this is the result.
You pull this crap and people lose jobs. And I don't know why
Democrats are so slow to comprehend that. I just don't get it. Jersey
Mike subs at the price they're at though. I got to tell you,
be Pete, I don't see why they can't pay people twenty dollars an hour.
I mean if I want to go get a sub for each of the
three people in my house, what do you think the cost is to go
pick up subs? Not have them delivered either, just pick them up from
Jersey Mikes. I mean in Georgia, of all places, how much do
you think it runs me to do that? What's a foot long? Foot
long? And subway now is what most of them are? Like between eight
and ten bucks. Yeah, but that's subway sandwich. That's not Jersey Mike's.
Okay, subway is not as good as Jersey Mike's. We know this,
But seriously, how much do you think it costs if I want to
go do that? I have no idea. I don't have three people in
my family. I've got no I know what an individual cost. And I'm
spending what I used to spend five bucks on for lunch, I'm now spending
nine to ten bucks on. So I mean everything's double So a foot long,
Oh, you're probably what fourteen bucks a piece? I have no idea
what it is in Georgia. Yeah. Well, see, we need about
seventy dollars to go to Jersey MIC's and each have a large sub, you
know, which is basically a foot long or a full sub whole sub they
used to call it whatever, what subway would describe as a foot long.
Yeah, you need about seventy dollars to feed three people at subway, and
that's not chipping. I'm not surprised at Paul. I mean, I'm you'd
be surprised how many guys I see on the damn job site now that are
packing a lunch. Yeah, because used to it was nothing to run down,
hit and drive through and for seven bucks you had a decent lunch.
Yep. Now you're looking at fifteen dollars. The store just down the road
here the highway fifty five. I get a hamburger, fries or cheeseburger,
fries and a drink. Used to cost you it eight almost nine bucks all
day, but it was a big burger, it was worth it. Now
I go in there seventeen dollars before I could even apply a tip. It's
double. It's a twenty dollars trip now, as opposed to know a less
than ten dollar trip. So but my point is that Jersey Mike's the prices
they charge for their food. In other states they charge more. I'm saying
to myself, why can't they pay somebody twenty dollars an hour, you know
what I mean, because what's something to make that sandwich in their overhead?
You got to realize everything, and that stores up products up, your electrics
up, your water's up, your sewer's up. It's getting We're going through
a fight now with our town council. They want to jack our water rates
another thirteen percent this year, just like they did last year. And of
course when they do that, the sewer rates go up. And it's because
we're such a driving metropolis that the only revenue being generated by the town basically
is through water and sewer sales. So they get some auditor to come in
and say, you need to have a slush fund of eighty six thousand dollars
on hand, so you need to jack your rates. What happens our rates
get jacked, I mean, so it's going up on everything I can.
There's no way they can afford to pay somebody twenty bucks an hour for what
is costing them an overhead. Now, yeah, but see again, possible
again though, if you have those prices going up, here's where this is
gonna whip back around and cause the problem the people that they want to be
able to buy these subs. Can't afford these subs now, And just like
the McDonald's, you got people not being able to afford McDonald's. Your base
group of people that you were having come in as regular customers are gonna be
priced out. And exactly, it doesn't matter if you go to twenty dollars
because we still got eight dollars an hour McDonald's workers over here, and they're
jacking up those prices the same way if you cut out, if you cut
out those people that are gonna come and buy something at a price point of
seven bucks because it's now twelve to fourteen bucks. When you cut them out,
you've just cut out the need to have a bunch of workers. You
can't pay them twenty dollars an hour you could afford to make money as a
franchise owner like here, I think the minimum wage is what seven to fifteen
hour, So you start these people out. Most restaurants around here are paying
their people ten to fourteen unless you're you know, in management or assistant manager,
tend to fourteen dollars an hour to work in a fast food joint.
Twenty is the break point. Although they're raising the costs of their products.
There's not enough buffer in there to absorb the extra pay per hour, and
they just can't do it. They can't, they can't make overhead. At
some point, an equilibrium has to be reached, is all I'm trying to
get at is at some point in equilibrium has to be reached. Either you
price out people and because they don't have the ability to make the money.
How many hours do you got to work to be able to buy your happy
meal? You know what I'm saying so exactly. You know, here,
here we go, here's the problem. Look at my job site. You
know, on any given day, we've got two hundred guys on the site.
Well, those guys are looking for lunch. By ninety five, you've
got twelve exits nothing but fast food. That's where they go. They've stopped
doing that because they just can't afford it. Right, These guys have families
trying to feed. You know, you can't afford twenty bucks a shot now
for lunch. No, and they're not getting paid minimum waeds. That's my
point. So what happens to the minimum wage worker? He's not getting takeout
food anymore. He can't afford it. So you know this is the way
it's gonna go. Anyways, what else you got some more? Should we
go back to the phones? What do you think we go to the phones
and ask them what they think about a twenty dollars hour? I mean,
well, hell, Dale's out there in California, isn't he tell? Yeah?
Chris, right, Danny is in. Danny out in California. Danny,
Yeah, Danny Sorry, yeah, California. Right, you're there.
So what's going on with the fast food? Yeah? Well, I'll just
I'll give you a little bit of background in my profession. I started nineteen
eighty six. I started driving for Burger Tine. I worked for them for
six and a half years, and since nineteen ninety three, I've worked for
a little known company that does the distribution to McDonald's in Chipotle. The all
the McDonald's in Chipotle have signs we are hiring, and I looked at the
deer of labor statistics. Unless they're lying, they said they've added jobs.
Now, there have been a few isolated cases. I know of one McDonald's
out of hundreds maybe thousands in California. They closed, but the main reason
was due to the location and the price of the lease. There. There
has been debate on it. They have been raising the price on the menu
for years. They've been anticipating this, and when I see it, when
I finally see the franchise or actually cooking and flipping the burgers, I will
kind of believe that they can't afford to operate. Yeah, well see,
there you go. That's one thing that happens at those dunkin Donuts locations in
the Northeast is a lot of times you see the owner they're working. Well,
if it's a franchise, he's got a couple of locations that they here
in this one, he might be at the other one. But that's in
fact this story here they reference one of the owners and he says, I
schedule one less person and then I come in for that time. It's still
the way he can cut costs. You know, it's the profit margins on
franchises are getting less and less, mainly because of what the franchises are charging
for the franchises. You know, what the franchise or is selling to the
franchise e is getting tougher time. When you start throwing twenty dollars minimum wages
on people, it adds up. I mean, look what happened? What
city was it that said there was a minimum for Uber and doordass drivers and
a minute that they announced it, the s started letting drivers go. Is
that in Minneapolis or somewhere? I don't know. I forget where that story
was out of I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember where
that was. But anyway, it's found to happen. Well anyway, it
seems as though, like I said, though this situation in California, though,
like he says, it looks like they're adding jobs, which is odd.
They are. I'm just saying, I'll all go all. What I'll
do, I'll take I'll take pictures of every window of all my deliveries and
show you and give you the names of the seas where we're hiring. Sure,
I'm just do it. And the volume hasn't dropped. I mean,
I'll be go ahead. I was going to say, if you get a
chance, ask somebody, if you see one of the owners or something they're
getting, just to ask him a question, say, you know, has
this affected you? Have you because they could be creating jobs because they're cutting
hours for other people, so they're gonna you know, you cut a guy
six hours, but you're going to hire somebody to fill in for four.
Is that why we're seeing a higher number of jobs is because they're adding positions
but cutting overall hours for people to keep them under over time so they don't
have to pay that time and a half. Or you might have had two
or three people at a certain level, you know in each restaurant. Okay,
this is our overtime guy. He's the ones that pulls the extra.
We can't put him on salary because we don't give him the authority to hire
and fire. We're going to make him an assistant manager. He'll be getting
ten hours overtime a week, and you're going to limit him at that So
to cut that out and keep that person from getting over forty Are they adding
positions and cutting this guy back that you could see an increase Yeah. No,
No, that corporate model though, they introduced that in the early two
thousands, because that was the thing about like look just even ahead of Obamacare
coming in right where people said, oh, you know, it's because they
want to make sure to keep everybody under forty hours because of Obamacare. No,
they were doing that when Bush was in office, and it was a
massive thing that went on where it was like, no, no more full
time workers, bring in all part timers and rotate these people around, and
you know what, they don't like it too bad. You give them sixteen
hour work weeks and they got two three jobs, you know, because they
can't make a living with one place. And then the Obama thing came in
later, which was funny, but anyway, Yeah, go ahead, Danny,
what Yeah, you're right, Chuck. You know, when the whole
Obamacare was there, they did cut workers on their hours so they didn't have
to give them healthcare. So here was what the boomerang effect was. The
workers got tired of getting crapped on. They said, screw it, I'd
rather not work. And now they're begging for people to show up and work.
I'm just saying that they it's for higher but I will that's a good
question, DP. If I run into an actual franchise, and I know
quite a few because I've been around the business for a long time, I'll
ask the question. Now, all the Chipotles, they're not franchised. They're
actually corporate to own. So I'm not going to talk to an actual franchiser,
but I do know several of the managers and I can talk to them
about the conditions and you know, any question you want to ask. But
I do know if you want to research Scott Roderick. He's a franchisor out
of San Francisco area Bay Area, which would be a very expensive place to
operate. He has been kind of the spokesman and I've heard him on several
newscasts when the wage is changing, he needs some very good points. He
said, it shouldn't the wage is his. It was kind of interesting as
an operator. He was talking about just don't raise fast food workers, what
about raise the floor on other workers? And he was kind of making the
point of just kind of a He was more articulate than I can in put
there. But I actually looked at the beer of labor statistics and they've added
jobs. There are news outlets claiming that there's jobs. They got this mindset
that ten thousand jobs have been eliminated and I don't see the data. But
when I go looking for a source that actually shows data, they're increasing.
And I'm just saying what I'm witness is there. Every store's got to sign
there, and it's just not even the ones I go to. I could
walk in there that we're hiring. You know, they're they're obviously in need
of these workers. But I know for a fact they have been raising prices
for a long time, and I do recognize the cost of women for the
bottom eighty percent of Americans, it's tough, and I don't know the exact
answer, but it is tough. And the volume of what it is you're
bringing in hasn't really changed. It's pretty steady though. I mean it's not
like change action in actually I deliver okay, I primarily delivered chipolice. The
volume has not changed. I know for a fact. I know this for
McDonald's because it's been we just had a report there's been an eight percent drop
and change in action decline because they have raised prices. There's been a declining
price a day percent. But what they've done now is they have refused to
kind of offer the you know, they used to have the dollar menu.
But what they have to do is they came out with a like a five
dollars combination price to kind of bring in that loss leader, to bring people.
And I knew that was going to happen, and you watch, by
the end of the summer, probably finally backup to normal. You know,
it's like we look at gas prices, we're hired here, but every time
the corner gas station, it's filled with cars, fill the gas. I
mean, California's complex and has got his problems. There are the basic economics
of supply and demand in effect here too, right, And you know a
real basic thing here is that with a Chipotle where you got everything corporate owned.
I know this for a fact. They keep dog stores going because they
turn around and they have write off stores where it's like, look, we're
making money, you hand over fist over here, but we're going to keep
this store operating even though there's hardly any customers, because we need to show
some losses. They actually will build that into their structure. Exeon used to
do it. It was hilarious. It was like, why do they keep
this stupid gas station open that nobody goes to? I mean they literally changed
the roads on a couple of these gas stations to where basically people couldn't had
no reason to drive past it anymore, and they had hardly any customers.
They were going through like a tank of gas, and I mean a full
station's tank of gas over the course of a week, which is like,
you don't need a store if you're selling a full tanker a week. And
they kept them because they were losers. You have to have some losing stores.
And even when they turn around and offer multiple locations to these franchise owners
and they sell them off, it was hilarious because they would sell them two
good ones and one dog, like all the time, you want three stores,
no problem, here's two good ones and one really bad one. Fix
that. And that's how they solved it out to him. Yeah, I
get it because I know in the McDonald's, the franchises, because I've been
there. I should have been damn near forty years working in this industry.
The franchisers, they will actually move to different locations and they make deals with
them, and you got to take so many stores. And then if they're
really prop the corporate stores they're really smart, they'll kind of inch out the
franchises and they'll run them what they call a coopko, which is their corporately
ran yep, and they seem to be really profitable stores. I see the
franchise that did kind of the short in the stick unless they have a lot
of power and pool, you know, long term with the with the corporation.
And I'm giving some inside information here, right, But most of the
time, when they start offering them, like you know, three at a
time and this kind of thing, to these franchisers, they always offer them
one that's like a loser. It's like a guarantee that I've seen that.
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. Yeah that's that's that's correct. And
like I said, they're working there. We had it was sad. Remember
quisins, Yeah those even exist anymore. Quick, go do a little research
at all the all the lawsuits. So these a little with them for a
while. And that was almost a scam because they were building so many stores
and so they were selling the license and the license for the franchises. That
was the value in it. And I remember I was delivering to a store
in this poor guy, great great community, won't Greeks a wonderful, very
affluent the community. But because of the way they licensed and they placed the
location, this poor guy he put his life savings in and I knew he
was going to lose everything. And I almost wanted to cry in my truck
because it was just like I saw this guy working. He was an immigrant,
he worked his whole life to save the store, and I knew within
two months delivering there this guy was not going to last. But here's the
other point is is they sure find a good way to get workers fighting on
workers. I mean there for you punch a paycheck. You're jealous of the
other guy working. I'm happy for him. Get as much as they can
because they're working the tail of it. Just I want to see more bottom
up, said, I'm on the left. I want to see more bottom
up economics. But nobody's complaining about all these record profits. These companies in
the monopolyation monopolize power in the oligarchies. Nobody's sitting there throwing stones to them.
But well, we'll complain about a worker getting a little bit more of
a piece of the pie, even though it's not that much. And I
sympathize that. Yeah, costs have gone up, but sold profits. And
you made a point about the equilibrium equilibriums off. I agree with you.
Yeah, that's what the problem is here. So it's gonna happen good.
But you saw a good example of the equilibrium being off back during COVID,
once everything got set down, and then the minute that people were able to
start opening back up. What did you see? You saw a lot of
negotiations with workers where they were taking advantage of it and saying, okay,
you want us to come back, Now what cost to this? There were
a lot of games made by workers because that having no others, had to
start paying more to get people in the door to work. So now we're
starting to see the crest of that. But in that happening, on top
of it, you get a state mandate that says, okay, what you
did wasn't good enough. Now, why is it just fast food workers that
were protected with a twenty dollars minimum wage? Why not trash collectors? Of
course, their union out there I would imagine and making a hell of lot
more than twenty dollars an hour. But in our line of work, we
have trouble finding people. Construction used to be good, start out paying jobs
for people. If you didn't mind working outside and yeah it gets hot and
swinging a hammer or operating a piece of equipment, you could make some good
money. But we have had a hard time finding people to fill jobs on
construction sites because they can go and get fifteen dollars an hour working in the
ac pounding out biscuits for Bojangles. It's really competitive. I mean we see
it on our end too, trying to fill jobs because people are getting more
money for those fast food jobs and the working conditions are better, it's hard
for us to fill labor positions on job sites. Well, if they offered
fifteen dollars an hour to a fast food worker here and make and I'd go.
I'd go take one of those jobs if I could, because it would
do me a lot better than what I'm doing. And you know, I
would go do it. But they're not. They're not reaching for it here.
They don't care it is thirteen. I see thirteen and fourteen dollars an
hour signs on windows all up and down this state. Maybe I got to
move back to North Carolina. Anyways, I'm gonna put I'm gonna put you
on hold, and then we're gonna go back over to Jimmy James. I
guess anybody else wants to join us though. Three one nine, five two
seven five zero one six, and uh, we'll also try and get everybody
back in toward the end here, and anybody else knew who calls in,
we'll get you right on end. Three one nine five two seven five zero
one six. So I don't know if you want to talk fast food or
you want to talk something else. We got about a half hour left here.
Oh well, Danny's you know, absolutely right. That's why I keep
hearing some of California's heaven on Earth right now. Oh, they're just plamoring
to get into that place. Hurt him up, hold him up him.
Yeah, I'm not going on what I'll paul ruling class versus hard version,
or I'll just call let's start with our Oka versus James Riddle Hoppa, who
was actually the moral man? James Hoppa did the cheat on his wife,
He did the smoke, he did the drink, he did the gamble,
and he used all these early dometans. RK was none of those things.
Cheated on his way, gove Marilyn Monroe to suicide, apparently at best case
scenario. So who's the moral man? And what was rfk's major malfunction against
mister happen? What does he made him look bad? And TV that's exactly
what started because he was a mean little kiss ant, as everyone used to
say, including LBJ on tape. And also I find it interesting that old
RFK. It's interesting that I don't know if you guys ever heard this story,
but once Hopfo was waiting for half an hour for RFK to show up,
and he came strolling in there with his boodles, and Hafa did grab
him other than that to throw them against the wall and said, how dare
you keep me waiting forty five minutes and then come strolling in here with those
faggetty dogs. I would never treat you with such disrespect. And that's where
it really threw our kid unto where I get top mode, Harvard mode.
We'll call it, kind of like get Trump these days, Harvard versus Trump,
it's always the same. Well, comrade, if you will, I
got to tell you how I'm not from Harvard, but but I'm not on
Trump's side either. I said, I'm not a Harvard guy, but you
know I'm not for Trump either, So what can I tell you? I
guess I'm somewhere in between there. Well, I think you and Dan here
just miss kad uh misguided? Okay, could be. I never disallow that
possibility. I'm always possibly misguided. Pete, what do you think about Jimmy?
Okay? Sorry, I'm just saying that I think he stared at office
crap so you could dig Kim Okay, B Pete, what do you think
about Jimmy Hoffer versus R F K. Well, I've never been one to
sing the praises of anybody from the Kennedy clan, you know, I've never
I've said before, I don't understand the mystique around j F K. And
he was God's gift to white people. I just he's just another politician connected
to a politically corrupt family. So you know, I've never understood, Oh,
he's going to save the world. I don't see how you do that
in eight years as president. But then again, you know, I'm just
not a Kennedy fan. So the Haffa stuff, I don't know. It
ties back then between let's say enterprises of a familiar nature and labor you know,
can make you see why maybe some attorney general might want to go after
Jimmy Hoffa. The unfortunate thing is we don't know because Haffa's gone, we
don't know where he's at. I'd be curious to see, though, we're
just going to come out what actually happened to him. You know, you've
heard so many varieties of what happened to Haffa, And my question is what
did he do to cause him to disappear in the way that he did?
Were the last thing he I mean not hear theory, but everyone else is
period. The last thing he was talking about must be the answer. He
was talking about prison reform, So that must be the answer that halfa lives,
All prisoners would be rehabilitated and be productive citizens today, and everyone would
make two hundred and fifty dollars an hour, and he would have part of
supply. M Well, I don't know about all that. I do know
one thing I will say favor over. Our Poppa worked literally full time from
the time he was in grade school, and rfk ever worked a day in
his life. Fair enough. Here's the thing about Happa that I think actually
got him killed, and that is that he would have if he had been
reinstalled as the president of the team Stairs, he would have wielded power that
that they that that certain people didn't want him to wield. And he was
not all for listening to certain people when they had directives for how say,
the loans were to be given by the Teamsters union and things like that.
So I think the big problem was that he looked to reassert himself in that
position of power and other puppets were standing by to do it, and Haffa
didn't listen to people, and I think that's what made him have to disappear.
Could it be could it be a case that you know, there was
a lot of donations made from labor unions back at that time when it came
to politics. Could it be that Hofer decided to put that money somewhere else
or towards people that not necessarily back in the Kennedys, and it kissed off
the Kennedys because suddenly there're he faltered, his running low and their money's going
somewhere else. And we look at that aspect of yeah, but it wasn't
about that. You got to look at the changeover that was going to happen
in Vegas and in a few other places where a lot of money had gone
and a lot more money was going to have to go in the next few
years, and take a look at the people that ended up in that position
of power with that presidency over that over the teamsters over the next stay what
two decades, and you take a look at who they really answered to I'm
just wondering if money had something to do with it. Oh yeah, acts,
not even necessarily just the political stuff. Was money going somewhere that somebody
thought it should have been going. I'm not saying illegally, because it's all
illegal. The money I'm talking about was somebody not getting their cut or did
their cut get reduced. That's why you went after them there. It is
somebody not getting their cut. If Papa was re installed as the president of
the Union, then there would not have been the old agreements with the cuts
going to people. It would have been a new circumstance, and that would
have been a huge revenue loss for some people who had some automatic cash coming
to them, cash flow constant from the team changer. Because if you think
about it, it was part of the labor unions that helped put Kennedy in
office. Or was it that they said it was bought? Was a Chicago
Disupposedly the Kennedy's bought a win. No, everybody's got a lot of different
theories about that. Certain precincts. You know, there were Italians that maybe
you know, exerted some influence to make sure and this and that. But
but to me, that's not that's not a major thing. Whether it went
one way or the other, or promises were made, or Sinatra turned around
and made a promise that ran his mouth when he shouldn't have, and all
that, that's well, no, what no, I'm just getting at the
general point of it is, you know, the Democratic Party had supportive labor
at that time. Somewhere in the background of that money changeing hands. Did
it get shifted somewhere else? And it pissed off the Kennedys because teams weren't
getting their cut or there whoever it was that they were aligned with, wasn't
getting their cust See Teamster saying Teamster loans that built and rebuilt parts of Vegas
and other gambling establishments that were going to pop up in other places that were
going to be part of legalized gambling built with Teamster money, you know,
before junk bonds became the funding source. Right. Uh. Now, that's
the huge consideration. You're not talking about, you know, a few million
dollars into a presidential run. You're talking about hundreds of millions. No,
no, no, I'm talking No, I'm not. That's just that's just
a speck of the bucket. I'm talking about those moneys that are being spent
on labor contracts for construction and things like that. Was there an entity that
the Kennedy's backed that suddenly was getting pushed out and the money started going elsewhere.
That's what I mean. Not know, the political money is just a
steck in the bucket. Yeah, But what I mean the big money.
What I'm saying, money for those labor contracts and materials and you know,
the gamers, the staff, all of it being unionized, was a Kennedy
benefactor being cut out. But if the union he goes, okay, hey
I'm not getting my share, you need to go after them, even though
we know labor put Kennedy in office. Okay, but here's the thing when
you were talking about the Kennedy's here right right now, when you have a
union that is loaning the money for construction and then on the back end being
guaranteed that they have all sorts of jobs that are going to be fed through
that union. Some of them are padded jobs, others are regular jobs,
and a whole lot of construction is going to get done. That is a
big old mill that generates a whole bunch of money that has a whole bunch
of stops along the way for a whole lot of skimming, And the Kennedy's
were not in that. That's got nothing to do with them. That's got
to do with a whole other world of business that, like I said,
until they figured out how to fun things with junk bonds in the late eighties,
this is where all that money came from to build all these places.
I mean, how do you think how many Kennedy gets are old? Wait
a minute now, how many Kennedy gets are owed to certain people over the
ability to bring liquor into this country back during prohibition and the deals that they
cut back then to be able to do it. You know, Canadian liquor
was coming down here. That's where where Kennedy's made a lot of their money.
Well, I'm talking about old familial ties. You know, instead of
this contry contract going to this individual with a vowel on his last name,
is maybe he should have gone to that individual with a vowel on his last
name, and he's got contacts with the old man Kennedy. He goes back
that far. We just don't know. They had to be something of major
financial importance. That caused the rift between between samilial institutions and the Kennedys.
Well, not what I would contend. I'll just leave it at that,
because you can see with the guys who came in later and the guys that
they had to remove, the people that wound up getting the job that Happa
probably would have been able to reacquire even after his release from prison. Uh,
that's what the problem is. And he wasn't going to play along with
the old arrangements, That's all I'm saying about him. So that's why he
had to go and all that money. Again, how did those Indian casinos
get built? How did you end up getting Vegas refaced over and over again?
How did you end come on? You know, it's it's a bigger
thing than you know, who ends up in the White House or who got
to be the Senator from New York. Okay, much larger or the Senator
from Massachusetts that too. Yeah, you know, you're looking at the casino
with other things, look at look at the labor involved with the military industrial
complex. Yeah, but then let's say some some tentacles in there that are
connected to connected individuals, you know, so it's not just It's not just
what was going on in Vegas with the mob. You know, their connections
ran deep on everything. So I'm and I think that's part of the reason
that Kennedy got taken out. Well, I have both of them. Okay,
I have no knowledge of any Italians at Haliburton. But you know what,
maybe somebody has information to the contrary. I'm just saying, you know,
Kellogg, Brown and Root and all those good old boys. I'm just
saying, I don't see Italians there. I know where Italians are. I
know what happened in New York. I know what happened in all these you
know, Indian casinos that got built up. I know what happened. I
mean there's a lot of you don't see Italians on the board of Haliburton,
but you see a lot of Italians involved in the labor unions that are working
in their factories. Yeah, but not not bringing the wall materials. Not
not when you're not when you're working for Raytheon and Boeing those kind of people.
No, No, you don't think there's any mom connection to any labor
union associated with the labored unions involved in Boeing Orthon. I would a manufacturing
plant. I would never say that I that I don't see any I would
say that it's not significant. That's what I would say. If president not
that big? What what's that, Jimmy, Do you think the little Coastostra
has any effective power now at all? Or they completely submissive to the Mexican
cartels MS thirteen the Venezuelan gangs, because that's what it seems like. I
could explain the batting order there. But no, I would not say that
they are okay. They do not have the power and influence they had during
the last century, not at all. But they still exist, and they
exist in places that nobody really pays attention to or thinks of them existing.
And it's more white collar stuff than it ever was. Your street level stuff
is gone. The drug trade stuff is really run by some interesting people from
Europe and Russia and that, and as far as what you see on the
ground here, yeah, in this hemisphere, a whole lot more Central and
South American people run that trade than any Italians, that's for sure. Do
they exist, yes, but they're mainly in white collar stuff at this point.
That's where they exist. That's what Unlike Cicily, where the real mafia
is and there and they ain't going nowhere. That's a different story you asked
about, you know you basically I think you were asking about what's going on
on this side of the world. I was saying that the American so called
mafias, yes, but not, of course, the mafia proper. They're
doing just fine. And Danty, Yeah, that's been that way for five
hundred years, so yeah, that'll be that way in another five hundred years.
Anyway, we got about fifteen minutes left. What do you think me,
Pete? Is there anything else that we need to cover here? Oh?
No, I did find an interesting story about our First Lady and the
fact that in twenty and twenty two, and this is a story that the
White House denies, I'll go ahead and tell you now, come back.
In twenty twenty two they went to the head of the Marine Corps band and
told them that they wanted them to write a song for fanfare for the First
Lady whenever she made an appearance, and it would be played from her first
sighting until she reached the podium of wherever she was going to speak or whatever
it was she was doing, like sitting at a table for a banquet or
something. Wait, wait, so like a hand to the tea for the
president. She wanted her own song. I notice she's been watching WWE and
figure she needed an entrance tune or what. But they did it, and
they wrote the fanfare for and they used it a couple of times until somebody
started mocking her about it, and then they pulled the song. Ever played
it again, and the White House denied that it actually took place. But
when you think about her demanding that, it might give a little credence to
the fact that people are saying that Jill is the one deciding if if Biden
bowls out, not every one else. Are you m doctor good? Good?
Good good, Jimmy, what about doctor Biden? Sorry? Good?
Makes me call her? Doctor? Does me? Imitating Briden just saying that
his wife makes him call him doctor jail? I like, I like's good,
it's good your Biden impressions good good? Since uh yeah, her and
Fidel Castro doctor Castro, they got the bit PhDs and education, which is
like what the biggest liberal arts associates degree the longest useless anyway, Well,
I don't know I fe's or got a PhD in philosophy, so you know,
it's philosophy are more worthless. I thought community, I thought communications was
the most worthless one. But maybe maybe it's maybe it's education. Well now,
well, now there's these ethnic studies and Communist studies programs that are of
course, of course utterly useless. That's, by the ways worse. I'm
studying someone's ethnicity. Don't study your own, dummy. Who are you saying
that to anyone who's goes to college and rings up hundreds of thousands of dollars
in debt for a degree and they're all ethnic background? Uh yeah, you
Jimmy. You just put every history black college out of business. Well,
now Jimmy can always go for like African American studies or something, right,
I mean that that would be no if you took away if you took away
African American studies, you'd have what half of half of doctorate programs offered in
college is done away with. Maybe that's the impact. I'm just saying that
normally, like Mexicans don't sign up for Spanish classes. It's just you know,
well, you know on the Jersey Shore they did in high school.
That used to be the funniest thing. Guys who actually already spoke Spanish,
signed up for Spanish in school. I don't know why they did it,
but that was high school. You know, you're not. I don't know.
It's weird. Yeah, you see that across all cultures. I mean,
you've got a lot of people that you know, are of Korean background
or Japanese or Chinese background and grew up here in the States that they've lost
the art of speaking the native language. If the parents don't use it in
the home, then it has a tendency to die out. Yeah. True,
that's true. One generation an accent, so second general accent could talk
in the craziest accent. Second generation tom Oh, Danny might want to get
in on some of my RFK commentary I want to do with see. Okay,
sure, I'll go over to Danny and see if he's got anything to
say about the RFK versus HAAPA discussion. Uh, let's see. Let's bring
him on any any thoughts on Jimmy James's good my thoughts. Yeah, definitely,
tension, there's definitely tension. There's definitely. I think Jimmy makes a
good point. I mean, if RFK was disrespectful, I can understand where
Hofa was so disrespected because I know that the labor has had a very significant
importance to the Democratic Party since the nineteen thirties. And if RFK didn't realize
that he was probably what Jimmy was saying was being that just a rich little
prick. Oh yeah, guaranteed when it came to that. And he makes
some interesting points about you know, morally, if you examine Happa, it
was well known the guy you couldn't you couldn't ply him with booze, you
couldn't fly him with drugs, you couldn't even ply him with loose women.
From what I underst it was sort of like, you know, you couldn't
soften this guy up in a negotiation or a discussion with any of that stuff.
So why he wasn't easily susceptible to him far more moral, Yeah,
he was far more moral than the Kennedy site. I would agree with that,
Yeah, absolutely, And like I said, that was just that that's
a well known thing though it was like sort of it was a tough thing.
This is why you could not leverage him to get him to do stuff
that he didn't want to do. Like I said, if he would have
come back into power. All of the old little handshake agreements, the stuff
that wasn't on paper, it would have all gone away because he wanted to
reset it all and make it so that there was no way they could ever
come after him again for anything. And that's what I understand about the Hopper
story. And the next thing I know is, yeah, he got disappeared.
And I've heard the legends of it and still have yet to hear anybody
come out with the same legend that I've always understood about what actually happened to
Jimmy Hopper. And he's not buried at Giants Stadium or none of that crap
they used to say that stuff in Jersey all the time is a joke.
But truth is, he disappeared in another state, and he disappeared right after
a meeting. And I've been told how he has disappeared and how nobody's ever
going to find him. Uh, And I've seen it depicted in one place
where it seems to me as though somebody didn't know something according to the legends
I've always heard from people who should be in the know. But you know,
so, what actually happened to Jimmy Hoppa. They're never going to find
a skull, a bone, significant deed that's never going to be found if
the legend I understand is actually how he disappeared. So anyway, yeah,
yeah, I just know more on the you know, I've never served as
an officer. I mean I've worked on craft and he's re unions and work
with shops stuarts on a lot of things. But one thing I do know
on a local level is that if you're kind of corrupt, and we do
have a democratic process, and I have been responsible and working on getting some
bad characters out and when the facts and like and when the best hits the
fan, I've been pretty supportive, like he needs to go because there needs
to be people who stand up for the rank and file. But again,
I mean your moral character. I mean you always hope the cream rises to
the crop. But like you said, I think jim made a very important
is they're from two different spectrums. I mean Tafa's from working class. Off
was from a very rich elitist class, and it you know, I mean
there were just two different parts and they were like oil and vineker, they
didn't work together. Yeah, when you got like like Jimmy said, when
you've got a guy who starts goes to work at twelve years old, which
a lot of us can identify with that where you know, as soon as
you could find any sort of work, you went to work. Uh.
And that's a working class person and you got RFK basically coming from a family
where listen, I'm gonna give each one of you kids four million dollars.
You can all go to college and all that and then start your lives.
It's a different perspective, Okay, it just is relate. There's no way
you can relate and that you know, I did it. I bought.
I've worked my whole life. I remember I worked at my dad's shot.
My dad had two tractorships. I started one of those twelve years old,
a small farming family business. And the other things you pointed out about I
grew up with the community. It was half Mexican, and they all too
Spanish because they always told me I did an easy A and I can swap.
You know, it's human nature. Here you go. That's what I
saw on the in you know, in Jersey. Really it was all the
kids that already spoke Spanish. They would take Spanish in school. They get
a on that. Yeah, yeah, but Jimmy. Jimmy was talking about,
you know, cultural studies, which is pretty funny because cultural studies complete
waste of time in college. For God said, I mean, unless you're
going to work as an anthropologist, or you're gonna, you know, go
into a museum, or you're planning on inserting yourself abroad somewhere, like,
you should definitely do Asian studies and then go teach English and Cambodia. That's
fine if that's what you want to do. But oh yeah, yeah,
that's valuable. I mean they have to polish, you know, for culture.
I mean, if you're trying to go in there and have any type
open a business or you know, diplomatic relations, you should understand the culture.
I think there's some importance. I mean, like anything can be saturated,
but I mean you can't totally discount it. I mean it does have
some relevance, right, I mean, if it becomes the dominant, it
can be overdone and be a force for its fair enough. Fair enough.
So we got to hear from him on the hop of the thing. We
got to hear from you guys out there. We didn't get too many calls,
but I'm glad that Jimmy and Danny called in for sure, be Pete.
We've only got a couple of minutes left, so kind of wanted to
turn them over to you tonight. Well, just so you know, sell
us at the end, I'm gonna go ahead and give my clothes and thoughts.
Appreciate Jimmy and Danny call him in, and we got another one in
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of fireworks tonight, but every night there's fireworks, and unfortunately, every night
there is trouble somewhere you. So, I think that random acts of kindness
are a good thing to employ in your life. I think that we should
at all times be aware of one another, because here's the thing. We
are conspiratorial creatures. By our nature. We don't ever accomplish anything of significance
as lone wolves. And I know a lot of us feel like we're quite
alone lately, but sadly, we're all on the good ship planet Earth together,
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what it is. This is the week that was, and we got another
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I appreciate you. And coming up next on the Network, The Age of
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