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Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, January
the twenty first, twenty twelve, and

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you were listening to the Giant podcast. I'm Ryan Davis joining me today.

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Mister Phinney, Caravelle, Hi,
mister Patrick Clapp, mister Jeff Gerstman.

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I work for a living. Don't
call me senior. Bradley A shoemaker,

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Bradley K shoemaker. What's the case
stand for? Was? That? Was

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that a pregnant pause is what you
call that. That's what that was.

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That's exactly what in the biz,
that's what we call I've used that now

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twice in like the past three days, and I'm a fight it might start

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over over using it because it is
so much fun. Yeah, getting getting

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overly pregnant? Some protection on your
diction. That was any caravelais and gentlemen,

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Actually pretty good. I thought that
worked out pretty well. You can't

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get pregnant that way, but you
can't get pregnant pauses that way. But

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things like that. I heard you
get off a wet toilet seat. It

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was so it was you can get
it from French kissing a wet toilets.

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I just hang out in hot tubs, but only but only in France and

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no joking. Don't don't mess around
with hot tubs, Patrick, they will

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fuck you up. The heat.
It's bad, it's bad, but it's

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not hot enough. That's problem.
Keeps everything alive, your diction. I

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heard you of any maybe not putting
it together. No I got let it

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think no, no, no,
no, I got it like Dick.

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It was like number fifty seven and
the one hundred and one grammar book I

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got from Scholastic Readers Digest, Like
where is this? It was just like

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fifty seven addiction like use it where
you need to cut? Cut to eight

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year old Finnie. Remember fifty seven
through sixty five addiction that shit is hilarious.

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Get out of the book fair.
You know it's just a little flyer

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you got, you know, then
you got to order from. Oh,

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you guys had a book fair.
That's what you called that. That was

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the book face. You just got
it on our desk. Sometimes sometimes there

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was a book fair like we convert. Yeah, exactly, like they took

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a classrooms and set up all the
books. You go in there and just

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buy the books right then and there. I remember that, But I'm with

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Brad, I remember just kind of
more often. Yeah, he comments on

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before they would use they would use
that that terminology to cover. Also,

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yeah, Scholastic is sending out flyers
so that one get a copy of I

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got My Lord of the Rings through
the Scholastic book fair. I don't think

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I have any more Scholastic products in
my house of dynamite. Yeah, dynamites,

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some rain your rick good quality reading. Yeah, because and they say

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print is dead. No, yeah, prince dead, yea prince dead.

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Huh yeah, pretty much. Last
time you saw a copy of Ranger RICKI

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you saw anything printed anywhere? Just
read his blog. Now on this table

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to have an iPad and a piece
of paper with chicken scratch on it.

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This really took me like a solid
minute to decipher what was going on on

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this piece of paper. I thought, like, Isni gonna get murder or

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people saying like weird things about Vinny
behind his back? That also, but

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this is not what that is.
So Vinny your best grade school diorama,

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go, I can't remember something with
dinosaurs and Gi Joe's probably in it.

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Yeah, how the dinosaurs got extinct? For context, folks. Before we

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started recording, Vinnie was declaring that
he wished there was a museum for old

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school dioramas, but the shoebox vari
specifically. Yeah, no, whatever,

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you can fit it in a cardboard
box. Sometimes you go and you buy

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two big pieces of card stocking.
You just like tie that ship together,

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like boom. Diorama. My mom
used to get really into him. She

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got really excited when I had a
diorama project because she would to get way

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into it. When do you think? What? What do you think?

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The diorama cut offf is after seven, so everyone in this room's we've aged

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out of it. Then we're done. Unfortunately, if you said twenty seven,

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yeah, I'm expect February seventh,
Din, We expect a diorama from

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you by the end of the week, and we're gonna help you make it.

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Thanks. I want a diorama on
Video Game News. We want a

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diorama on SOPA and PIPA and what's
the what's the what's the new European one

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as cap? Yeah, yeah,
they're trouble man. I know what we're

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doing. On Friday, it was
clay testa. We'll make it. Well,

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yeah, I'll bring in my glue
gun, some glitter, make a

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volcano. I've got a bedazzler we'll
just go nuts on it. We fantastic,

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Patrick. Do you remember any of
your remember the round? I specifically

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remember there was a volcano project I
had to do where to make the volcano?

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We didn't use like clay Dad,
how is the volcano project like like

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past like nineteen fifty three, How
is that still allowed to be I don't

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know, school project? But whenever
my dad had us use the material,

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it was it was cement like and
it was it ended up weighing over thirty

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pounds, and so my dad had
to be like bring it with me to

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school, like drag it out of
the car, like I felt like we

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had used actual cement. Dad,
just like drop you off and be like

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fun. Yeah, I have to
imagine like at the time that way as

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much as you did. Yes,
Like that was that was like an ant

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carrying a giant stick and then after
after school just dropped it behind the school

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and I'm not I'm taking this on
a bus, don't pick me up,

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so get here. If you've a
preservation of those things would be really hard.

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That's why it belongs in a museum. But I'm saying like it there's

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something like that in la Is called
the Museum of Jurassic Technology. I refuse

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to say anymore more about right.
I failed to make it there the last

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time I was in La. There
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Wow, dedicated to trailer parks.
Your your lack your your determination not to

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say anything else about it. You
live if you live Jurassic trailer parks.

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No, it's called the museum and
durast Technology. It is a strange place.

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That's all I will say. Because
it's it's it's it gets spoiled if

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you Okay, I went in there
thinking it was about dinosaurs. It's not

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about dinosaurs. You can see the
obvious pull for for Patrick. Yeah,

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it's one of the best things in
La by far. That the that in

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the Time Traveler Museum Urged store,
But was your was your and the Hollywood

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side check it out? Was the
bridge? That which is what they signed

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you up for on Twitter. Yeah
you guys for the Hollywood Sign. Hollywood

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Sign. We got a top secret
monument that you could be tweeting for.

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You're influential on Twitter. Sign up. Now, let me tell you about

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the Hollywood Sign, guys. It's
got a lot of letters then used to

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see Hollywood land and then the land
burned down. That actually happened. You

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know, I don't know where you
go for giant letters, but I you

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know, I go to the Hollywood
sign. They're big letters, Sister Island.

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You see them far away? No
Moi heads cluttering up the crap.

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Oh did you see that? They
started digging around the Moi heads and it

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turns out that there are Moi bodies
right How far does this go the dirt?

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Yeah, you know, it's amazing. It's it's all all those copies

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of Gradious. It's so amazing that
I'm baffled that, like, why didn't

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anyone else try this? That We're
like, nope, just heads obviously,

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just billheads taking out of the ground. Like can't you do like an X

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ray of the ground or something like
is there some way of Apparently they had,

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They did an X ray with shovels
S rays. They use powerful s

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rays not fit for the human.
Get your body out of the way of

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these s rays because they will fuck
you. Don't need like a lead shield

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over you know, you're junk for
sure or else. Those S rays will

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go right through them. Yeah,
just just go clean through being no good.

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Yeah, I saw that It was
amazing, but also reminded me of

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the old Far Side comic where that
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like there was a there was a
Far Side where that like just straight up

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that was the joke. But it
turns out fun funnier than they knew.

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Farside harbinger of our times. I
know you think they're little bodies, like,

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well, the heads ie, they're
proportional. The heads are the dominant

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part, but there's an equally sized
body underneath. Its crazy and again the

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craziest part to me, how did
how did we just now figure this out?

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We were happy in my day?
We were just happy with heads.

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Yeah, that's all we had.
And who knows what else is underground?

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We need to get some shovels,
fun more. Whatever candidate funds the s

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rays? That's going on back in
what's under this building? What's going out?

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Can we use s rays to get
to the moon? Probably? Yeah,

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built out of shovels, Jeff,
you any any dope dioram stories.

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So we're doing today, you know, we're just we were gonna didn't leave

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it off. It didn't live in
a box, but I did do like

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a like a paper machee kind of
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I believe it was a Civil War
oriented thing. Uh, you don't have

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to like paint part of it to
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thing. And yeah, what did
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form underneath it? That seems like
something you would do. But yeah,

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I don't remember Brad any any memorable. After making a joke school project for

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making a joke about depictions of a
Garland, Poe writings, I think I

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know. The only one I can
remember is a depiction of which which I

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can't remember, had to be the
most obvious one. I hope it's not

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the obvious one. But I can't
even remember that. So the heart beating

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under the floor, maybe it was
the tell tale heart, tell tale heart

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maybe, so that would be the
obvious number two cask of a Montelato?

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Is that Poe? The dude gets
buried in the breakd up in the wall?

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I can't remember a dark kid man? Yeah, hell are you doing

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blackness? And can you tell everyone's
soul the black heart? Brad Shoemaker.

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Yeah, after that card game,
I realized that after cards get humanity?

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Oh wait, he is actually the
sinister one no one knew. Turns out

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that's the twist ending giant bomb.
I liked our rad was the evil one.

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I liked our second day after hours
drunk game. Yeah that was that

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was good, which you won again? Worse saxophone solo. Yeah, the

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cameras are off. It gets I
don't know how I'm feeling about this tested

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camera though you get none of you
guys can see it. I plugged it.

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I know it's not on, but
still no, I mean, I

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like, I didn't even like that
it was plugged in. It just in

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the path of it, you know, you feel like it's just looking at

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you and judging. Take the USB
cable to put up on the table where

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we're see it, and I think
that'll be the thing that help that's happening.

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What if it's broadcasting anyway? All
right, okay, I think that's

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the other end of the cable,
the cable that is like a modern DAYCAO.

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Like, no, it was right
here and then incriminating footage if you

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gets out anyway. Still, still, what are you doing in this room

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that the lightning crashes and brain beats
the window? Did you make a diorama?

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Ryan? Uh? Yes, I
did. What did you make it

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on? It was a science experiment
on hummingbirds. Did you have a real

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hummingbird? Yes? Oh my gosh, well I didn't have him, but

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I did it. I did a
sign, wasn't I did? I did

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a science experiment to see if hummingbirds
would react to differently if the diet,

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if the food was died right or
not. Did they know all that government

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money, Yeah, down the tubes
to turn their public school systems whatever.

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The government now knows right, they
can dial that food right if it want,

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It's not gonna be big. That's
why crunchberries disappeared. Nobody care the

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red dye industry, like, you
don't hear about that anymore, do you

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know? Nobby was like, yeah, it was, you know, reden

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number five. You're always hearing about
all the different reds ye. Last time

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you heard about any sort of red
food coloring? Well, probably like the

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last time that I had colored east
riggs. When was the last time you

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colored east riggs? It's nineteen forty
seven, right about the time you're the

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Great Depression? Was the last time
that anyone cared about red food coloring?

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And that's when you're dying that's when
you were in school. When I was

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in school, Yellow number five,
when I was in school, was the

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one to look out for. I
was trouble. That was one was the

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one that was going to kill people, right. That was the one that

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would supposedly produce the size of certain
anatomy. That was in mountain dew and

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I drank mountain That was exactly the
story. So you drink too much mountain

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dew. There that But then there
was there was the not gonna make no

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babies on this mountain dude drinking anyway? Red two? What was the red?

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That from Star Wars? But they
had a right it has to be

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from Star Trek, right, Yeah, we're talking Star Trek here red because

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they had to take Red M and
M's out because of it. I'm just

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looking at Jeff and he is just
looking so blankly back at men. You

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remember, No, what pretty Cavell? What games been playing? Dude?

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I did a project and call.
I don't know if it's a diorama,

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but it was involved ants and I
built Uh could you make an call leaving

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food out on your floor? No? But I bought ants over the internet,

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which I thought it was weird at
the time. I put a sandwich

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out once on some piece of cardboard
and then the ants got it, and

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then I picked up the cardboard and
then the ants bit me or stung me

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or something. And I don't like
the red ants. I don't know those

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the ones that they can They were
ants in my backyard. Backyards, those

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aren't indoor well something around yeah,
whatever it was they it's yeah, I

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did not expect. Just a little
bubble, I said, Ali came up

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over then a tear drop. My
my, it was a it was a

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paper machee. And then I wanted
to build an ant farm with electronic gates

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that would open and close, and
I hooked it up to a computer.

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Uh. And there was motion sensors
for what means did you up to a

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mind storm? This was through ye, I had a bread board and it

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was it was a programmed in like
basic uh. And I forget what the

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thing that interface with the computer was. So when some ants would go over

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here, they'd go through a motion
sensor and it would shut the door and

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trap other ants in this other part. And there was like a screen that

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was all like metal gear style that
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like a countdown. So were you
making like saw for ants, this sick

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little fun house, a toilet full
of ants syringes, you'll have you will

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kill these other ants with your action? He ants right. The key was

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in one of the ants and they
didn't know to dig it out from behind

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their little ant. It turns out
ants don't really like to be in anything

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but dirt. So I'd buy like
three poles of ants off the internet before

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I figured that, burned through a
lot of ants dig where I don't know,

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Uncle uncle Ed's ants on dot com? And may you ever do an

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ant farm, gottle fashion ants farm? No, they send you the fucking

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ants in the mail. You get
ants in the mail. That's just crazy.

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I can get ants. You want
ants, We'll go find some ants.

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Get sandwich did one time? I
had an ant farm in the mail

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away for the ants, and then
they send you the ants ants. Ants

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keep saying that ass and uh,
I left it on like my kitchen counter,

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and then uh, like native native
local ants found it. I fucking

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got in through the air holes because
they were small enough. They were way

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smaller than the big ants and fucking
destroy mail order ants. That's terrible.

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So the mail or ants did not
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was the end of the hand.
No, I had to buy. I

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had to re up and buy more
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next time. You can't use the
indigenous ants I could. I don't know

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how to catch the local ants.
They swarmed in there and took over and

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then took off. Well no,
no, no, they didn't get into

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the ant farm. They got into
the vial that that they can't that.

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The new ants came, but they
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no, no, all I mean
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ants. So both sides suffered casualties. It was it was not just completely

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one side of the cree. There
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something something my young mind hadn't even
considered to be laid out bear in front

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of me. I don't know where
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local, locally sourcedically made. Yeah, we're cruelty free. Did you see

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this guy smuggling hummingbirds this morning?
No? But I love when I see

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that some guy. Yeah, I've
seen I've seen that story about a guy

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trying to smuggle hummingbirds internationally had them. He had him lining the inside of

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his jacket. Ye, like together
gonna go up and like open your jacket

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and start spensing some humming girds.
I've seen I've seen pictures of people doing

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that with other sorts of exotic birds. Yeah, I guess they'll just like

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tape them up and then line a
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and some catches and go just like, did you think you're gonna do?

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Yeah, jacket full of birds?
Why is your jackets squawking? Open it

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up? A fly away? Stupid
these birds time to strings, big dummy.

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I don't have any humming birds though
right now currently. Yeah, I'm

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sad about it. The ants at
them. Maybe you need more not red

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I had back I had backdoor or
backdoor backyard humming birds for when I first

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moved to my door. Humming birds. That's something else that I'm working on

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right and it's also a diorama,
but it would not be appropriate for school.

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All right. I don't know.
My humming birds disappeared and I don't

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know what to do about it.
They'll come back. I've kept food out,

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no like they like a year and
a half they've been just gone be

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call what you're playing? Skyrom great? Jeff Gersman, which plan? Uh?

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Reckoning? Can you talk about that? Sure? Do you wanna?

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Yeah? I do. It's the
review can't run for like another week or

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so, can you can't? It's
like there's a bunch of it's like push

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people talking about this game. So
I was like, whatever, I likes

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Penning Arcades thing. I'm not sure
we're supposed to talk about this. Gonna

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talk about this game? Right?
I bet if they exactly? Yeah?

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And then other people are running up
any way more Reckoning is pretty good.

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Yeah, I think from what I've
played with it so farspiciously review. I'm

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not gonna all attach a number to
any how many how many Facebook likes would

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you give it? Well, if
it doesn't have a number, it's not

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a review. We all know that. I don't know. I can't.

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I can't speak to the number of
Facebook likes. It's the only I don't

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want to give any kind of trick
other than I've played about thirty hours of

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it. Okay, what would you
uh? I mean, I know there's

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a demo out and it's been on
for a while. What would you like

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in this game most too. You
know, I feel like the like what

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I've seen of the combat, like, you know, Kenner Ralston and he

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has ties to the Elder Scrolls series
and everything, So obviously the first jump

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everyone makes is fucking Skyrim. Yeah. And after I played it for a

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few hours, like last year,
at some point I was like, oh,

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it's gonna be like another Elder Scrolls
game, but the combat's different,

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but it's the Elder Scrolls kind of
connections. The similarities are in real broad

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strokes, you know. It is
stuff like you know, yeah, you're

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gonna find lock picks, and yeah, when you steal stuff and then the

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guards catch you, they're gonna take
all your stuff, and there's jail and

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and and all those sorts of base
level systems. But this is like a

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Elder Scrolls light in a lot of
ways. And that's not necessarily a bad

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thing. It's it's a it's a
pretty different game, and that it's a

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lot more focused on the quests and
getting stuff done and a lot less on

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This is a big world and everyone's
gonna walk around town and who knows if

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they're gonna be where you left him, and oh god, the game broke

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like it's you know, it's more
focused way like none of that, uh,

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you know, it's it's yeah,
it's like quest markers here, the

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guy will be standing there, you
will hit a on the guy, you

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will talk to the man, the
quest will continue. So it's it's it

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doesn't feel like as as a this
like this huge open world. You're not

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climbing up mountains. In fact,
you can't even like run off ledges.

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It's like that kind of like Zelda
style or Gears style or something where there

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are specific jump points where you can
jump down or something like that. But

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but for the most part, it's
you walk where they want you to walk.

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The math. You don't hop your
way up mountains. The math felt

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very constrained from what I saw.
Yeah, which again not necessarily a criticism,

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that's just that's the design philosophy.
Yeah, it is, it is.

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It is different Along those lines,
do you find that you care about

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the world or the story or the
underlying fiction it's or the games so heavily

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reliant on Hey, this is a
fancy world with good combat, which has

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kind of been the hook. There
are some really interesting ideas in the game's

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story. I like the way I
think that's a really solid premise, and

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then just like it's kind of what
the nature of some of the races in

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this world and kind of the nature
of the conflict is really interesting again kind

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of in broad strokes, But yeah, there are a ton It's one of

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those games where it has a main
quest line and then faction quest lines,

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and then there's a bunch of side
stuff. Like the side stuffs all been

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pretty flat, but the faction stuff
get go get twenty of the y Yeah.

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Yeah, it's it's never been like
go get twenty of the well,

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it's it's very rarely go get twenty
of these, but it's usually like there's

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a cave over here, go run
through this dungeon and there's a dude in

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it, or there's a thing in
it or or whatever, and go here,

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do this. And there are a
few that are like, you know,

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like there are ten books throughout the
world, get them, but it

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actually will highlight on your map exactly
where they all are. It's not like,

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you know, just hope you find
these ten books over the course of

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your adventure. It's it's kind of
good and bad, I guess, you

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know. It's it's it really is
just kind of run to the dot on

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the map and do the thing,
and then run to the next dot on

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the map and do the things.
I mean, the mini map even looks

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very immo like yeah, yeah,
the little circular map. Yeah. So

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is it open world or you can
go wherever you want? So how do

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you feel, like level wise,
does you feel like it's doing the zoning

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thing of like, well, we're
gonna match the level of these bad guys

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do is? Uh? The open
world, like the outer the overworld,

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uh is kind of set so you
will eventually run into areas that are too

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tough for you. You know,
they give you kind of like red names

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for the for the enemies and stuff
like that to give you an indicator like,

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hey, you should probably turn the
fuck around. But it seems like

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when you go into caves and when
you basically when you load into kind of

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the smaller areas, those seem like
they're scaled a little bit. Okay,

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because I'm like level twenty or something
like that and mostly been doing side stuff,

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so there are these faction quests and
these other things that I need to

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kind of go back and do that
the areas outside of these caves, I'm

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just like laying waste everything out there. But because I walk in the cave,

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the name color on the enemy's changes, it seems like it's it's bringing

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them up a little bit closer to
to what my level would be, So

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it's preventing it from just being like
a total cakewalk, Like I haven't really

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leveled past the game's content or anything
like that. But when I'm out running

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around the world, like a lot
of a lot of those areas seems like

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they're still set. There's a lot
of gray guys that I'm not getting a

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lot of XP from killing. And
then you know, the combat is a

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is a big deal. It's you
know, I don't think people are gonna

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confuse it for like Ninja guiding one
or something like that. God of War.

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It's kind of war. So it's
you know what they've They've got a

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few different ways where you could hit
the button more or less really stupid.

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Can I confuse it for this?
Looks like totally okay, yeah, you

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know what. You know, what
it seems like to me is a better

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face these people are out there.
Let's not discount the stoop and oh yeah,

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better fable. It's kind of a
different way to put a more complex

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or a deeper fable, right,
uh. And it's stuff like you know,

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you're signing weapons to buttons. You
have two attack buttons, and you

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equip two weapons, so you could
have a bow on one and daggers on

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the other. It's not like a
light heavy sort of deal. So it

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becomes like as you work your way
up the tree, the specialization trees for

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these weapons, it becomes at that
point like, Okay, if I hold

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down the button for a little bit, at this point, there's a charge

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attack. If I delay and then
hit the button again, there's a delay

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attack. If I roll first then
hit the button, there's a dodge attack.

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And if I perry then there's eventually
like a perry attack for each of

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the different weapon types. So it's
not super complicated. It is not the

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deepest thing in the world, but
there's kind of just enough to it to

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where you feel like you are,
you know, playing it and doing stuff.

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And I'd say that the combat's pretty
satisfying. Is there a point where

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you bring up like a moves less
that says like xxx, that's why.

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Yeah, it does have a moveless, but it's not that because it's it's

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it's one button per weapon, so
it's you're just looking at the moves for

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a specific weapon and it just shows
what you unlocked. It'll be like attack,

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pause, attack does this. If
you just keep hitting, attack it

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does this. If you hold down, attack it does this. It's not

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necessarily like a big commo. It's
not. There's no trees, and it's

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not like a branching sort of thing. But you gotta work all those things

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into one string. But it's tied
to the weapon. Not necessarily too.

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That's cool. And then if you
haven't put points into those weapons, you

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there, you you can't do the
delay or the stuff. Is it more

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weapon types or is it like weapon
like this sort of types with you,

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it's it's dagger sword, great sword, fablades, you know, like they're

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massmers hammer, No mass staffs after
Scott and a tiny staff that is a

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web like a wand type but it's
not it's not called a wand I can't

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remember. It has to be on
a chance right morning. No, No,

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ma chain mace is on a shade. I think it's I think that's

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the proper terms. Little ball,
that's just the maze. I thought that

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I thought the little the morning maybe
it is. It is. Yeah,

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but yeah, morning star. The
morning Star is not a maze, right,

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it's a morning Star. Maybe maybe
a maze can have a chain,

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but it doesn't have to have a
shade. With much difference between a maceon

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mornings like like like a rapier could
be a sword, but not all swords.

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Yes, gross, uh A mace
is like a club but metal spiked

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or something. You know. It's
like basically just like here's this blunt instrument.

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No chains. It's not numb chucks, I know. But what you

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see you get the mace with the
ball and swinging it around you like a

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whack of dude. That's a that's
a without without the without the chain on,

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it's a morning star. Or does
the morning Star? I have to

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have spikes? We have that,
don't We have that book with all the

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swords and maces and booze swords.
Maybe there's a subsection in there I lost

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my player's handbook or also in that
it probably would have a lot to say

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on this stuff. I think you
guys, I will receive no less than

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it doesn't emails. Give me a
very specific information about the differentiation between a

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mason the morning Star. I have
the cover to my player's handbook, but

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all the pages are gone. What
the hell happens? It's good if I

405
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want to like read porn somewhere,
I would hide it and double that bet

406
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.039
and say that I will delete every
single one of those emails. Right,

407
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.160
So right, you don't actually want
this information? No, no, I

408
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.599
don't. It comes in every week. You guys want to know about like

409
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:32.400
the fucking international history of the penny. Just read the bomb cast the mail

410
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:37.079
account and you the new Wikipedia that
account that it is. It's it's like,

411
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.599
yeah, that inbox is googling everything
that we talk about on this show.

412
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:48.480
That's in email form. Very helpful. It's super is occasionally you get

413
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.359
someone who has like weird personal experience
with the topic at hand and like,

414
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:52.440
let me tell you the truth about
this stuff. That blows your mind.

415
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.640
So yeah, keep it up every
one. So what kind of character are

416
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.160
you? I've been putting most of
my points into finesse, which is the

417
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.839
roe or a tree basically, so
there so there's no like like set classes.

418
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.440
It is all just sus usually have
three different skill trees to put points

419
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.119
in. One is the kind of
Warrior track, one is the Magic User

420
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.720
track. And one is the kind
of thief track. Yeah, yeah,

421
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.000
does that? Do you feel like
that kind of encourages midmaxing as far as

422
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:23.200
it can. I mean, it
kind of depends on how you want to

423
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.759
play it. Like, I've been
going mostly after the passive abilities because they

424
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:32.119
seem more interesting. I have not
been super interested by what I've seen of

425
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.880
the kind of active skills and magic
abilities and stuff like that. Just hasn't

426
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.799
seemed that boots and stuff. Yeah, yeah, so be like, Okay,

427
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.079
now I do you know, have
a twenty percent chance that when I

428
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:48.799
hit them with this bow they will
bleed? Cool sunglasses stuff like that.

429
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.960
Yeah, now I've got awesome shades, hot rims. When can you do

430
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.720
the reckoning? Yeah? What can
you reckon? I reckon? You can

431
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.839
reckon whenever you want. Really,
there's a meter that fills up that is

432
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.240
reckoning. Yes, like, yeah, time to reckon. It feels full

433
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:10.119
of fate. And when you get
one hundred percent fate my fate meters,

434
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.720
you enter reckoning mode by pulling both
triggers and then everything goes into slow motion.

435
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.359
You basically wail on everything around you
at that point, and then the

436
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.720
last one you kill in kind of
a quick time event sort of thing,

437
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.720
and then you get like hell of
bonus XP for all the stuff you have

438
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:27.039
knocked down while in reckoning mode.
That final thing is called a fate shift

439
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.759
kill. I think, oh yeah, the whole thing is so you're you're

440
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.400
a character without fate in a world
that is very heavily dictated by fate.

441
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.759
There's a whole race of people that
just go around, you know, they're

442
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.880
more or less immortal. When they
die, they eventually reincarnate, and they

443
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.680
just go around kind of reliving the
same stories over and over again. They're

444
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.599
all songs, so they're just like
that. You go to the House of

445
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.480
Ballads and taking part. But you
know, because the world is coming apart

446
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.880
and you are this guy without fate
in the world, like your mere presence

447
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.440
is upsetting the way of things that
like it. So you end up in

448
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.119
a couple of missions along that when
I thought were pretty interesting. You're going

449
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.599
along actually be enacting some of this
stuff, like Okay, yeah, I'll

450
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.160
be your guy for this thing because
the other guy's dead, so I guess

451
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.559
I should be the guy to do
this because that guy entered she shouldn't end

452
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.599
up dead. Some outed up dead
so people, I'll come with you on

453
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.640
this thing, and everyone's like losing
their ship because yeah, structure is kind

454
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.000
of like they know, like when
they get reincarnated, you know what you're

455
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.799
supposed to be doing. They don't
know that, don't know that's that's I

456
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:32.799
don't know deeper than maybe because we'll
bring that up. Yeah, that's saved

457
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.920
that for the MMO communism. I
mean, keep mind like that. You

458
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:38.519
know, this is set in a
world that they are also building an MMO

459
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.279
in, and you could really see
how that stuff's gonna work because you have

460
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:48.720
all these magic elven creatures that just
kind of reincarnate on their own, and

461
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.359
then you are the first uh of
the young races to come up off that

462
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:59.359
pile and be resurrected. But this
game period of time before years, so

463
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.759
sure, so this is time for
every plenty of time. Yeah, plenty

464
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.200
of time for them to figure out
exactly how you're resurrected and turn that into

465
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.599
a character creator for an MMO and
death penalties and whatever they end up doing

466
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.160
on that stuff. Kind of yeah, you see that sort of stuff coming

467
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:18.519
a mile away. Yeah. Yeah, So it's basically Terminator two with yeah,

468
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.400
with fably I love it. Yeah, what a great movie. Sure,

469
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.839
Yeah, I mean there's a you
know, it was one of those

470
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:26.960
things like you kind of look at
the world and as I was kind of

471
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.200
going through it, I was like, this game might not be that long.

472
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.680
But now that I'm thirty hours in
on it, still digging deep,

473
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.839
kind of going through, like I
finished two of the faction lines, and

474
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.039
you know, there's any there's any
good because it I wonder how much that

475
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.599
is, Like like Skyro if you
just were just you just do the main

476
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.160
quest games pretty short, right,
you can do that, you know,

477
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.359
I bet, I bet this game
would probably be that long or or or

478
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.480
if you're something, if you could
focus. I don't really know, Like

479
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.400
I'm kind of got to like basically, probably what's the end of the first

480
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.559
act of the main story or something
like that, kind of the first first

481
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.039
pivotal moment there or something. I'm
not really sure. But there's a whole

482
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.240
bunch of area on the map that
I haven't even been to yet, So

483
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.480
it seems like it seems like there
will be a bunch more to it.

484
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.920
Kind of hard to say, it
seems okay, mmm, I don't know.

485
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.559
I'm intrigued, Yeah, I like
that premise. Yeah, yeah,

486
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.759
that is perhaps the most interesting thing
I've heard about this game so far.

487
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.119
Yeah, the game parts, maybe
it's not bad, but it's like the

488
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.119
premise sounds fucking riot. Yeah what
was the I didn't play it, but

489
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.799
wasn't there an Infinity Engine game that
had like the exact same Planescape was a

490
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:36.759
plan Scape Torment. It doesn't sound
exactly I saw some people comparing it are

491
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.319
similar. Yeah, you die and
become resurrected, but this sounds like this

492
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.519
is like you also have like a
skull for a friend more you have a

493
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:52.559
skull for a friend. No,
but sometimes you find skulls. Are they

494
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.119
friendly? They're just dead? I
mean you just pick them up, put

495
00:32:54.200 --> 00:33:00.839
them in your inventory and sell them
like just like likes. No, it's

496
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.920
just you know, because you're searching
around, it's like, oh, look

497
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.359
at that two swords and oh a
skull. Well, if you saw a

498
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.359
skull, take all is fewer button
presses than take swords. So it's a

499
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.160
treasure to somebody. What's the going
wight of skulls? I don't know the

500
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.759
way the the UI works for selling
stuff, You just kind of take the

501
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.559
things you don't want and hit the
AD two junk button and then when you

502
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.319
go to any shopkeeper, you just
hit another button marked sell all junk.

503
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.640
That's great. Then it just like
items into the X number of of gold

504
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:31.960
and that's that's really handy. How
much would you like if you saw one

505
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:36.240
out of flea market? How much
did you pay? The skull? Skull?

506
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.160
Is it? Is it crusted with
gems? I need, I need,

507
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.680
I need it my rama as much
as money as my adult skull.

508
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.160
Any cranial trauma? Missing some teeth? Oh? I was about to ask

509
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.200
about is there any skin left on
it? Or muscle? Mean skull jaw

510
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:57.519
yes, jaw o yes, job
yes, job, but not attached separate?

511
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.920
Yeah, well you got set it
on the set it on there like

512
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.239
tendons and ship. What's twus pay
twenty bucks for full skull? No cracks

513
00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:10.760
or anything, nothing like I said, missus for teeth yeah, Christmas and

514
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.119
some teeth? Yeah. Does there
have any feelings? No? Those have

515
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.800
long instances. Do you know where
it came from? Any mineral? No?

516
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:28.840
No, no sense of of ist
or origin? Human skull probably probably

517
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.239
yeah, any human, but I
don't know. There are very very strict

518
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:39.320
regulations about the handling of human remains. Do not make naked time with him.

519
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.159
It's like kind of rule number one
I found out. Does that make

520
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.840
the prince go up? Or if
you want to, just don't tell the

521
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.639
seller either way, Like if you're
buying the skull out of flea market,

522
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.159
they probably aren't gonna care with like
a certificate of authenticity the person died natural

523
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.159
causes and no no again, no
no, no, this is a real

524
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.599
skull than nothing. Zero prove that
this is a real skull. You can't

525
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.760
prove that it's not a real skull. That's true. Zero a fake scull.

526
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.840
So I'll trade you my real skull. He's gonna get this skull and

527
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.159
you're not gonna get shit. And
then you're gonna thinking about it's gonna be

528
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.159
like I got the sweet skull,
and you're like, I'm gonna have the

529
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.960
best. It was a bag of
socks. I about a bottle of crystal

530
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.840
skull vodka. That stuff is awful, isn't. Yeah, well it's vodka.

531
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.880
No, it's it's bad vibe.
I've had it. I don't know

532
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.519
it's his vodka. Yeah, well
yeah, the one time I had to

533
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:31.320
remember not minding it. But I
was mixing it into stuff. Yeah,

534
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.599
yeah, yeah, if you if
you were, I tried drinking it straight

535
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.800
about okay, I would always mix
it into something. I have a bottle

536
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.559
of it. I was watching Ghosts
Skull, so I have a bottle of

537
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.719
its signed by Nana Ackroyd. What
that's authentile. It's just a long story,

538
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.960
especially because it was given to me
by Dana Akrod like four years ago.

539
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.920
But it was only signed by him
about three months ago. Wait,

540
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.320
give us the short version. You
on that one until next week? No,

541
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.239
fuck that? Making up travel.
I went. I went to a

542
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:08.320
Ghostbusters remember when there was a Ghostbuster
remember remember the thing? And went to

543
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.239
a press event and he was there. Yep, and man, he's way

544
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.199
into the occult. Yes, that's
all he would talk about. It took

545
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:21.320
you three years, super crazy and
total committed. Believe it. So you're

546
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.079
talking. It took you three years
to join the cult, work up through

547
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.760
rank to get close you five thousand
dollars I do. The first part of

548
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.480
the story is the three months ago
getting signed a part let's see you what's

549
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.760
my sister's apartment? For a while
in Brooklyn, and then I got ships

550
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.360
in North Carolina, and then he
came through town. Okay, and my

551
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.000
parents saw that he was coming through
town. It's your parents, and they

552
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.079
grabbed the bottle lid. He split
and went off to meet them, was

553
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.119
buying like four more bottles of that
stuff. So now that I hear that

554
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.159
it's bad, I'm kind of bummed
out. I mean, what was he

555
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.719
doing was like going on a tour. Yeah, yeah, going on a

556
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:59.360
tour, like signing bottles of his
vodka and talking about Indians, talking talking

557
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.039
about ancient aliens. Have you watched
the like the promotional videos he's done for

558
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:08.280
that incredible he goes on and I've
also watched all the UFO documentaries he's done,

559
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.639
Like almost the commercials almost have like
a little bit of a wink to

560
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.880
him though there's almost like a like
he's taking this so seriously. And then

561
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.239
he's talking about Crystal Skull fucking vodka
like the other stiff. There's a Netflix

562
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.440
It's on Netflix, Incidant, but
there is a dank royd UFO documentary like

563
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.320
saying, yeah, autopsies didn't heed
what I what I love. Also,

564
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:34.159
he was in Sneakers. I love
Sneakers. Yeah, I mean to love

565
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.239
that movie. If you go and
read like Terminator two Sneakers. You can

566
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:38.519
watch either, right at which would
you rather Watchers? I think I don't

567
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:43.000
want to watch I think I would
rather watch Sneakers. I don't like Sneakers.

568
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.960
Sneakers at turnag Toterminatory. I remember
most of that. Patrick, I've

569
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.559
never seen Sneakers. You've never seen
We'll get it out there. I haven't

570
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.119
either. You guys, you know
what. You are going to admit that

571
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:57.920
unless side saying the rest of this
podcast we're gonna watch Snakers because Sneakers is

572
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.920
tricking amazing. I have bought like
three copies of Seas about hackers spies.

573
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.519
Hackers and Spies. Isn't it like
a crazy ensemble? It is a ridiculous

574
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:14.760
No, it's Robert Robert, It's
Robert Redford, Sidney Potier, Ben Kingsleyans

575
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:22.159
eleven. No, you're thinking of
true romance. It's another single word title

576
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.639
money ball. It was in that. It was like it was in the

577
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.400
nineties. Keep going. Maybe there
was gambling involved. The Oceans Left seven

578
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:36.119
twelve, Okay, like Winded Sneakers. It was another movie that ended in

579
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.000
the yard. It was like it
was like the last movie that River Phoenix

580
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.239
did before he died. I don't
know what I'm thinking about it. Okay,

581
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.159
so the River Phoenix think kind of
carbon dates it to a certain degree.

582
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.320
But it's all sit in the Bay
Area. It's all about computers and

583
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.480
hacking. This sounds awesome, It's
fucking amazing. It's really it's really,

584
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:57.239
actually actually just a great, great
movie. Like it's super clever and a

585
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.920
lot of fun. Holds it on
Netflix. Who made it? I want

586
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.840
to say it. I can't pull
any director name nobody, but Ben Kings

587
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:10.719
is the heavy in it and he's
really good. Timothy Busfield is in it.

588
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.039
Yeah, it's a good pull.
Minor character Stephen Tobolowski is in it.

589
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:24.079
He plays Ned in Groundhog Day.
Yes, I can pull character actor

590
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:29.119
names movie. It's a great he
just fantastic. Me a random what we

591
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.840
were what were we talking about?
Random? Character actors? Robert Forrester,

592
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:43.360
Keep you going till It's the one
that you can recognize Jesus J. T.

593
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.199
Walsh would be until he died in
like the late nineties. He was

594
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.760
the bad He was the bad guy
government dude in everything. Who's the guy

595
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.840
from Ghosts who says good off my
train and then jumps around. Oh that's

596
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:57.239
a good pull. I should nah, I don't know his name. I

597
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.840
like that guy. Yeah, he's
good. That's a good one. Yeah.

598
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:06.679
Nothing. It's not a Netflix instant, but it's worth it's worth having

599
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.039
a disc for. Okay, i'll
lend you my cops. I don't know,

600
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.239
but I'll lend you my my digital
versatile disc copy. Okay, you're

601
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.119
gonna show up with a laser disc
if you still have it. I may.

602
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:22.800
There's a distinct, there's a very
powerful possibility. I may own Sneakers

603
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.840
on laser discs, which honestly would
be the perfect it would be the ideal

604
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.880
medium to watch Sneakers on. Yeah, Japanese version of Sneakers. After that,

605
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.440
we watched CB four. I do
not own CB four on laser disc

606
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.480
Boo. Sorry, I just had
to dig through them. I hadn't move

607
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.199
a bunch of my laser discs this
weekend, shuffling furniture around. What the

608
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.679
fuck were we even talking about?
Reckoning? Is all right? Yeah,

609
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.639
it's it's just it's promising. I'm
enjoying, enjoying what I've seen so far.

610
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.159
It's out another week, so I'll
keep playing it and maybe it'll all

611
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.000
fall apart and be terrible. Maybe
it'll be pretty good. It actually parts

612
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.840
of it seemed like it could go
either way. That's the weird part.

613
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.719
There's a lot of really good things
about it, but I'm kind of interested

614
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.199
in seeing, like kind of how
it wraps up is the pacing doesn't move

615
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.280
like it's you just you just fast
traveling around that world. At some point,

616
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.239
you know what the busting ass around
there. When people talk about Elder

617
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.960
Scrolls, like the map seems like
the obvious comparison because it looks exactly the

618
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.320
same. Yeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't look like the Skyrim matt Well

619
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.920
because it's not like it is.
It's parchment. But I'm saying, yes,

620
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.239
constant and from there and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, it definitely does

621
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.199
does that, and there are tons
of things on there, but it's not

622
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.679
like But also at the same time, it's not the sort of game where,

623
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.840
I mean, you could do it, but I don't really see a

624
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.719
good reason to just like I'm gonna
go wander around like no you should.

625
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.000
Is it all combat? Is it
all like are you doing like tech or

626
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.679
persuades or yeah, they're stuff.
If you go to a town, there'll

627
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.519
be a ton of quests. They're
just like, run around the town,

628
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.760
talk to this person, can do
this for this guy, and there's this

629
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.960
stuff. But you're gonna be fighting
it seems like yeah, combast thing.

630
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.360
Yeah, interesting game. Brad's going
on over there? You're looking at your

631
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.119
foot. I'm excited looking sideways at
me. What's going to figure it out?

632
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:12.480
What's up? I was thinking about
the nineteen ninety six Who directed it?

633
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.119
God damn it. Oh you're a
Brad Pitt movie. Dupid mobile IMDb

634
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.760
be the director. I'll give you
the movie nineteen ninety six, Michael Sullivan

635
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.519
Sleepers. I don't even know what
it's about, but yeah, Sleepers is

636
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.400
horribly depressed movie. But he was
totally in that, Brad. It's about

637
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.880
child molestation. Oh Jesus, Kevin
Bacon, Robert de Niro, James Patrick,

638
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.360
right, Kevin Bacon, A bunch
of kids. That's the movie,

639
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:43.079
dust Dustin Hoffman, the movie The
Driver. I'm not is it Kevin Bacon

640
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.559
in another movie where he touches kids
too? Doesn't Kevin Bacon look like a

641
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.119
guy who would fo kids? Like
there was one that he was in like

642
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.559
five years ago. Throw a mustache
on Kevin Bacon. Does Kevin Bacon mustache

643
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:59.159
on most people? He's Sleepers is
one where he runs like the home Yeah

644
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.320
yeah, and it's all flashbacks,
flashbacks, and then their adults they're all

645
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.800
sucked up and it's really depressing it. Why would he be in two movies

646
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.119
where he touches kids. Maybe that's
just you know, his thing. We

647
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.559
get really good at it. But
he's really good at acting like he's touching

648
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:21.840
kids. Should be thinking about the
one I'm thinking about, Like he goes

649
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:25.199
to jail. I think is like
goes back in a society and like the

650
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.159
struggles of a man of a pedophile
trying to be in a great society.

651
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:37.480
It's really I watched when I was
Kevin Bacon certainly has access to the broad

652
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.239
ray and shoot mustaches of people,
of kids. What are you talking about?

653
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.360
He knows everybody. Yeah, okay, got it. I didn't know

654
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:54.159
where you're Kevin Bacon. Sorry,
we got motive. But seriously, Sneakers

655
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.000
is really good. It's good,
all right. Verifying that's right, my

656
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:06.559
my voices, my passport, verify
me. My name is my passport branch

657
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:13.559
Jumaker Soul Caliber five Uh huh yeah, it's uh. It is the latest

658
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:19.000
in the Soul Caliber franchise. I
was shocked last week looking at this week

659
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.559
and realizing, holy shit, sold
Caliber five was totally coming out this week

660
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:23.800
because we saw it ever so briefly. I like, Brad, you were

661
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:30.280
there, Alex was there and saw
it at three and it was but it

662
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.039
was but it was back room.
We were not allowed to play. They

663
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.719
had two characters in it, they
had two stages, which but they were

664
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.039
like a lot of these assets are
from the last Soul calibers, so this

665
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.360
isn't even what the new South Sol
Caliber is gonna look like. And now

666
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.719
they were they it seemed like they
were only showing it off because they thought

667
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.239
they could win like an E three
award, right, But the thing was

668
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.760
like what they showed seemed like it
was more than seven months out right,

669
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.440
which is you know where we are
at this point. So I was just

670
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.960
blown away. I'm like, they
finished that gate from the state that they

671
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.079
were in, or at least the
state that they were showing, I guess

672
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.719
they had to have been full somewhere. Yeah, uh yeah, it's still

673
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.320
shocked. So is it? Does
it not seem like a game that was

674
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.840
slapped together in six months? It
doesn't okay, I don't know. Well,

675
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.679
I mean that's to me already.
You know, I could go back

676
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.199
and play a bunch of Soul Caliber
four and try and figure out how much

677
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.239
they changed the stuff, And it
seems like they've made some some interesting changes

678
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.079
to the systems, like you know, adding supermoves and doing stuff like that.

679
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.760
I guess, uh, would you
say they're trying to modernize it.

680
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.280
I mean some of the stuff they've
added, you could draw parallels to Street

681
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.880
Fighter four, you know, it's
kind of their ultra equivalent and something that

682
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:39.400
is uses meter to do better versions
of existing moves, almost like an ex

683
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:43.199
move is in Street Fighter four.
But you bring out dudes. Yeah,

684
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.039
yeah, you can. It's got
some new characters in it. It's got

685
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.440
Eco in it, Yoshimitsu, you
know, mits a Rugi. Dudes from

686
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.800
a Soul Caliber game for the are
pretty in there the base. I mean

687
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.719
there's like also eight unlockable characters.
Clicking there should not have to unlock tip.

688
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.840
I don't think Khalik is on the
list either. Time has passed,

689
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.480
so it would make sense for for
some characters to not be in there.

690
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.079
On the Giant boat, like Giant
Staff then what kalik Han. Yeah,

691
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:14.679
that is what. Uh, I
don't know. I have not played every

692
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.960
character yet, so I don't really
know. MAXI is the Eddie Gordo of

693
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.039
Soul Caliber. Yeah pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm not

694
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.079
the only one. Yeah, once
you kind of figure out what to look

695
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.400
for, you you know how to
stop it. But that's the same deals

696
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.960
Autie Gordo. Yeah, just stuff
just coming out all over the place,

697
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.639
and you're like, what that's not
appropriate here, sir, But that stuff

698
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:37.119
puts your numb chucks away. Please
say they are children around. Yes,

699
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.159
I know they're called none to chucks, but please put them away. Just

700
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.599
the same. This isn't Kevin Bacon's
pool party. It's not appropriate. You

701
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:50.360
know. They've got say, some
decent online modes in there, and stuff

702
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.559
with you know, six player lobbies
or eight player lobbies and multiplayer lobbies and

703
00:46:54.639 --> 00:47:00.039
uh yeah replay downloads and uploads.
Namco Games seems stuck in a real creative

704
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.719
run. Yeah. I mean the
stuff they're doing to this one seems interesting.

705
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.599
It just the whole thing. Playing
this game really got me thinking about,

706
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.679
like, why does anyone care about
Soul Caliber? Maybe not in that

707
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.880
kind of a despay but weapon based
fighter. I think that's what's always made

708
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.440
this series unique. But for everything
else that has been shook out since kind

709
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.079
of the last time that the fightings
were really kind of big and relevant,

710
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:29.360
it seems odd that that's still caliber
of the games was the one of the

711
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.239
few the I think, you know, it was a game that hung on

712
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.840
that was amazing on the Dreamcast.
Yeah it was. It came out at

713
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.320
just the right time when a lot
of people were maybe looking for for something

714
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.719
new. It looked outstanding. It
was deep. It was deep, but

715
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.039
like really easy to pick up.
So it was one of those games like

716
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.960
you could you know. I remember
when it came out, there were just

717
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.000
like people coming out of the woodwork
that wanted to play Soul Caliber. Uh.

718
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.519
And I remember that seeming weird as
someone's like, well, why don't

719
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.519
we play some Street Fighter instead,
and they were like, no, because

720
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.199
that's hard. I don't know this
button does the he just keeps whipping those

721
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.840
numb chucks all over the place.
So uh, you know. So I

722
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.559
feel like it gained that following there, and that's probably why they still make

723
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:13.320
them today, is because probably hoping
that they can kind of recapture some of

724
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.480
that stuff, but I just don't
think they have. They've also made a

725
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.199
lot of them. Like other other
fighting franchises, they have taken a break.

726
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.920
Sol caliber has been been going steady. It never really stops, but

727
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:24.880
it's never been annual or anything like
that. I mean, it is just

728
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:30.119
it's just like five. Yeah,
there could be there would be an argument

729
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.760
for like I mean, like like
Street Utter four didn't change the formula too

730
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.440
much, and you know, I
just there's not enough time between those entries

731
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.559
for people to like, really I
could really go for a new Soul caliber.

732
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.880
It's just oh, there's a new
Soul caliber out of course there is

733
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.400
the stars right, which that's to
me that at the point, that's what

734
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.000
your hook is, like, maybe
you're maybe you need to rethink what s

735
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:54.920
to me. They poisoned the well
the first time they did that, I

736
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.199
think the very first time. Yeah, I felt like that so Calibo had

737
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:07.239
they had linked they had linkedawn spawn
just how she doesn't even have a weapon.

738
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.480
It was they had like bracers or
something on him. Yeah, they

739
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.039
put some shit on it, his
hair, he had his hair. It's

740
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.960
true. That felt like a tacit
admission of we don't believe in any of

741
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:20.400
our characters, or we don't know
what to do with this, or so

742
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.559
we have we have no no faith
in marketing this stuff on its own.

743
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.199
So let's get linked. Let's prop
it up with with like uh and and

744
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.480
yeah, and that's spawn sure enough. The news unit's quite like sure,

745
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.920
sure enough. The GameCube version was
the best selling one, right, uh

746
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:39.360
yeah, so that was bothersome to
me, and that kind of I thought

747
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.199
it was stupid. I don't know, it's it's it's just gimmicky. Yeah,

748
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.400
if you're gonna do it, do
it. I mean I like Tom

749
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:46.679
Mortal Kombat handled it, like if
you're gonna go weird, do it.

750
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.519
In DLC, it wasn't really an
option then, but yeah, yes,

751
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.440
yeah, and I don't think it's
great in Mortal Combat either. It's it's

752
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:59.840
more of the point. They'll go
for some thematic consistency, like right,

753
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.760
I would like to see like he
is a historically themed character, but I

754
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.159
think his face looks dumb. Yeah, the model is the model doesn't look

755
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:13.960
right, but like visually and in
terms of origin and and even has decent

756
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.760
weapons, like he fits in a
hell of a lot better than Darth Vader.

757
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.480
Yes, but the net code seems
pretty good, and you know,

758
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.400
it is still soul Caliber. They've
done some stuff to it, Like I

759
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.679
imagine there must be some people out
there that are excited about that, but

760
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:29.400
yeah, you know, I'm not. I'm not really thrilled about it.

761
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:37.599
Seems like a well made game that
uh hopefully that someone isn't it wants that.

762
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.679
I guess It's never sol Caliber has
never been in an arcade series,

763
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.000
has it? It was? So
the original Soul Caliber was was in arcades.

764
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.679
Yeah, okay, so they when
they brought it home, they made

765
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.559
soul Blade. Uh and then remember
that this place second game was soul Caliber,

766
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:58.840
So this is technically soul Edge six. Soul Caliber Arcade was like a

767
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:00.960
System eleven, System twelve yea game, right, yeah, so it looked

768
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.719
like a PlayStation game braically. Yeah. Yeah, that was the thing I

769
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.280
remembered, was like, there wasn't
there was a yeah exactly, yeah,

770
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:16.079
exactly lizard Man lizard Man. No, that was not the name. Wasn't

771
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.039
that was the name. It's a
lizard manet Tech and trying to get all

772
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.320
fancy given people names to their animal
characters. Roger lizard Man lizard Man.

773
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:31.280
It's right up there with Stolemania.
Just hes got skulls. It's fucking crazy.

774
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:37.519
All you need done. And I
put down for three more months of

775
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.400
hosting on my track Mania server.
So that's not going on. Yeah,

776
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.679
that's not going on. He did
something wrong with my hosting, I'll have

777
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.400
to No, that's working again.
Were able to get an again, Yeah,

778
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:50.719
we just just wasn't for I don't
know theopened the new password and all

779
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.920
this stuff this morning. This morning, I tried to get in and everything

780
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.840
was going sideways. I don't know. My domains were hacking up. Yeah,

781
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.159
nothing good in a fool nothing good. Yeah, dream host get your

782
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.199
business. And then I had this
copy of Final Fantasy thirteen two in my

783
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.719
bag that I didn't play great,
which I felt pretty good about the grand

784
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.880
scheme of that. But there's someone
else wo feels less great about that.

785
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.760
Let's hear it. I bet that
Rory Rory wants to play it. That

786
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:21.519
person is brat your mouth. Speaking
of quick time events that reward you with

787
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:25.639
loot, we were experienced points somewhere
somewhere in there. I've been holding that

788
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:31.800
one in my brain compartment for real. Late Transition twenty minutes smooth. Why

789
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.519
Brad isn't allowed to do transitions?
I don't. I don't think I should

790
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.159
be allowed to talk no more,
no more, no more. Segways for

791
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:43.480
Brad come off with such a street
too. So speaking of Square made RPGs

792
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:45.119
about time traveling, there you go, there it is. That's much better.

793
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:51.119
So I'm thirteen two. It's really
like Chronic Trigger and King of Zamalo

794
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.199
Reckoning Headed. They wrapped all up
and we save yourself sixty bucks. Just

795
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.679
get this one. Don't have to
get those other two, right, So

796
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:06.000
what have you been? What have
you been doing in the game? Hasn't

797
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.360
been playing this? I feel it's
like every twenty minutes. I'd just hear

798
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:14.320
he doesn't seem like. Man,
it was insufferably boring for the first two

799
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.719
hours, Like I didn't think I
could go on. That sounds automatically way

800
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.480
better than the last one, which
was boring for like twenty hours. Oh

801
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.639
it was weird because that one was
boring because they didn't let you play the

802
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.320
game, right, They withheld all
of the interesting mechanics for literally about twenty

803
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.440
hours. Yeah, that sounds way
worse, but the story was intriguing enough

804
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:36.639
that you kind of wanted to keep
going whereas here they have. So they

805
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:39.800
give you all the paradigm shifts,
like all the stuff that made the combat

806
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:44.639
cool you have in like ninety minutes
or two hours, but all of the

807
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.559
characters from the last game that you
may have become attached to are missing an

808
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:52.559
action. Like you're playing a bit
character from the last game who doesn't have

809
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.000
much of a personality and she's joined
by some dude out of time who also

810
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:04.119
is pretty flat, and what the
fuck is going on there? Yes,

811
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:08.000
there there's a movie like the most
like a fullying voice I may have ever

812
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:16.960
heard in the video games. Doesn't
just say coopo full like that voice und

813
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.440
like it's voiced by a five year
old. I don't think that's what what

814
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:22.960
in my mind, that's not what
a movie would sound like. Moogle would

815
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:30.360
sound like like a Cabby distribute,
like a dude from the Bronx or something

816
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:32.320
like, No, you're crazy?
What why would you say that? It's

817
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.440
it's it's basically anime. Of course
it's gonna sound like the way Brad made

818
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:38.719
a sound. I don't know,
just whenever I see a Moogle, I

819
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:44.119
was thinking, like, well,
to offset how ridiculous, like how almost

820
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.880
sarcastically like periodically cute a moogle is
that you'd have to give it the thing

821
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.559
sarcastic or keep in mind the source
material, who who's making these games?

822
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:57.519
I didn't, I didn't, I
didn't have This is not sarcastic. I

823
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.880
have this great depth of cultural understanding. When I first saw him Google,

824
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.599
all right, you thought the Bronx, I thought, yeah, it looks

825
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:09.119
like Google, Like, hey,
I'm a Google, smoking a cigar,

826
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:13.519
Yeah, yeah, chomping on his
little baby. Ye yes, a baby

827
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.480
huey Danny de Vito a like day
to Vito from Taxi. That's what I

828
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.639
expect a moogle to sound like.
Disappointed. I don't think that was the

829
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.280
thing that was gonna disappoint me about
thirteen two. But carry on, hang

830
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.840
on, all right, let me
get this straight. You're saying you're capable

831
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.760
of being disappointed by Final Fantasy thirteen
two. It means you were holding out

832
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.960
hope that this was gonna be the
one. Well, it was like,

833
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.039
I'm Gonnas and this is the game. Well, I'll say this, that's

834
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:40.760
that's acceptable for you to sorry,
I played it. I'll say this,

835
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.679
Yeah, you played thirteen I'll say
this though I never played it, but

836
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:51.840
I really loved everything that I ever
saw about Final Fantasy ten to because I

837
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:57.159
felt like they took all of the
melodrama and self seriousness of Final Fantasy and

838
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.159
just turn it on his fucking ear. Yeah, it's we're gonna be as

839
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.480
crazy and goofy and over the top
as as fucking possible at all times where

840
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.159
I take any of the series and
like, that sounds great. That sounds

841
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.159
like such a great change of pace
for the entire Final Fantasy series. That

842
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:13.599
one was like like those ladies went
save the world and then they became j

843
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.320
It's like, fucking great, that's
so stupid weird. Now they fight with

844
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.320
their dance moves. Yeah, it's
like costume change. That's fabulous that I

845
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.679
love it is fabulous, fabulous.
Got real dressy in that game. You

846
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.760
certainly that's a good game. So
so based on that, based on what

847
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.320
the last sequel was, I thought
like maybe thirty two they'll go completely side.

848
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.440
That was a reasonable hope, and
I'm going to dash it now.

849
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:45.960
No, I will say, like
six hours in now, I don't not

850
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.280
want to play it anymore. Okay, so that makes sense. He's broken

851
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.920
through that part. I'm going to
continue playing it, finish it. Indifference

852
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:57.199
has been delivered, some kind of
verdicts overridden. Yeah, Like the stuff

853
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.559
that was great about the combat is
still great. It's still a lot of

854
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:02.599
fun. It's still like the fast
and fastest paced and probably most most dynamic

855
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.159
Japanese RPG combat I've seen in years, not that I've played a ton of

856
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.280
those games for a while, but
the way they take like the MMO constructs

857
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.599
of like tank and healer and DPS
and stuff like that and kind of flip

858
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.679
them stuff around and make it move
really fast and make you flip back and

859
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:24.480
forth like that. That stuff is
really satisfying. It just feels so nonsensical,

860
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.400
like so much of it. The
story is just like it's a lot

861
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.039
of disembodied voiceovers from characters who are
not even physically present in the scene,

862
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:39.079
kind of philosophizing about nothing, and
you just feel real disconnected from what's going

863
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:40.920
on. It's hard to keep up
with, it's hard to get invested,

864
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:46.440
it's hard to care. So it's
fun to play, but the story it's

865
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.039
hard to get into. What do
you think this says about the future of

866
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:57.360
Nova Fabulous? Well, they went, and they already went renamed that other

867
00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:00.039
final Fantasy thirteen game the Mobile one. Yeah, when they pointed it to

868
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:06.519
the up and coming platform. There's
still Versus somewhere out there. Oh yeah,

869
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:08.440
yeah, a g to became fun
a fansy type zero. Yeah.

870
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:15.679
Versus thirteen theoretically is still in production. Who knows. I don't know the

871
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:19.840
rain We kind of went off on
this and quick look, but I think

872
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:25.840
Pat Patrick and I at least agree
that the rain of ruined well I was

873
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:30.840
just going to say, has perhaps
continued long enough. Let's get some new

874
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:32.159
character designers in there. I just
can't even think I want some more.

875
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.679
I want some different art. I
want I want the games to look different.

876
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.960
Don't like any of the nothing tape, the way his characters look.

877
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:42.480
It's just like I don't want to
think of all over square stuff to I

878
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.599
have had enough. I've had enough
fucking zippers and buckles and sequins for one

879
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.679
lifetime. I mean, you boot
up thirteen two and it's like the logo

880
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:55.199
and then SQUANICT and then just bigger
than the Squan character illustrations to tuos anymore?

881
00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:00.599
Like fuck you like God? I
get it. Feathered hair, yes,

882
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.519
the feathered hair is prominent, yeah, everywhere, and he's everything.

883
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:07.800
Feathered hair is a good look if
you could pull it off. Yes,

884
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.880
yeah, I guess it's just it's
enough. I don't even know if he's

885
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:19.400
responsible for all this stuff I dislike
about like modesty, it just epitomizes this

886
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.480
left turn that, like all their
stuff took well. I was I was

887
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:28.000
moving Chefflin media around all weekend,
going through libraries of stuff, and was

888
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.760
staring at my copies of Final Fantasies
seven and eight and was thinking, like,

889
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:37.599
you know, I really I can't
even imagine what Square could do with

890
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:43.000
a Final Fantasy fifteen at this point
to like spark interest back. It certainly

891
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.320
does not seem like it is continue
down the path that they have struck since,

892
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:51.320
uh tell me, one thing they
could do is drop drop fifteen drop.

893
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.760
Don't fucking call it? Is it
not patently ludicrous to anybody else that

894
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.960
they're putting numbers that high on this
on this franchise? Though it's crazy?

895
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.000
I think it's ballsy. I guess
it just seems like the only one that

896
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:06.920
seems Yeah, like everyone else,
why is that one? Like we should

897
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:12.480
probably stop putting numbers on this.
Yeah, but they haven't tenn't ten yea,

898
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.800
they just broke ten. These guys
even shot themselves in the foot by

899
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.400
adding eleven and fourteen in there,
which should have just been online and online

900
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:23.559
too. Yeah, they patting their
numbers, but that's not think of it.

901
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:29.440
When they get to twenty. Yeah
Fantasy x X Okay, they're talking,

902
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:34.719
that's the only that's just a two
D fighting game. What's the only

903
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.320
lazily falling back on supil numbering is
not the biggest problem that they have,

904
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.920
but it kind of embodies the problems
that they have. I think, like

905
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:46.119
they've they've just been coasting, They've
been just I think I think the problem

906
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:51.119
is just like even if you're a
Square Nix that if you create something that

907
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.719
would have been a Final Fantasy game
and you don't call it Final Fantasy like

908
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:58.639
you were just even money on the
ta Yeah, we call it Final Fantasy,

909
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:01.559
my thing, my move, a
Final Fantasy story, sure, Like

910
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:08.599
like can't you moogle town on the
subtitle instead the Final Fantasy Okay? All

911
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:10.800
right? It was the last one
they ever make, just it wasn't the

912
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.440
name of the first one because the
dude didn't want to make anymore. No,

913
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:15.719
it was because then they were going
to go out of business. Last.

914
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.039
That's that was. It was age. It was never commentary on the

915
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.000
state of the company. I thought
I had heard that it was because like

916
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:23.039
the developers like I don't want to
do this kind of fund game. But

917
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.840
it was the first one that he
had made. Okay, it was pretty

918
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.920
early for for the genre. Yeah, you know that. That was like,

919
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:30.920
yep, this last thing the company's
making, and then it turned out

920
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:37.079
sold really well, but eventually it
will be the last thing that he ever

921
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:38.800
makes. Well, it's ironically it
sounds like I was interactive. It is

922
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:45.639
gonna basically save Square Nix. So
you just said the craziest thing hit Man

923
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:52.559
fifteen will be. I just can't
save anyone. That's ias kill all these

924
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.800
final characters. When when they came
through and showed that thirteen two a couple

925
01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:00.559
of months ago, like the way
they talked about the influence of of like

926
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:05.960
IDOS and talking to Western designers,
like they seemed actually really interested in Like

927
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.519
they'd never done focused testing before until
thirteen two was the first game they'd ever

928
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:14.079
done focused testing, and they'd learned
that from IDOS, and they'd never done

929
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:15.800
a vertical slice, which is you
know, like right, So they did

930
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:20.760
do it thirteen two. They said
they started exploring the options of it.

931
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.000
They said they were excited to do
that from the start on future sets.

932
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.719
That's what they need. They I
don't know how they do their feedback,

933
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.079
but I think a Western influence.
I don't want to you know, necessarily

934
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:36.519
Western made a final fancy game,
but having a little more understanding of what

935
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:39.079
the audience wants to make able to
react quicker, which I think Western stuff

936
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.639
does a lot better than maybe.
Yeah. I think it's one of those

937
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:45.320
things you just run into that situation, like do you focus test something to

938
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.760
death and end up with just middle
of the road, boring garnage or do

939
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.679
you put put some kind of vision
behind it. I think at this point

940
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:59.360
you know that they probably need I
mean, they might benefit from a different

941
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:04.800
vision. Well, I think I
think the focused testing thing, it depends

942
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:07.480
on what you take from it,
like yeah, like don't go and change

943
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:09.440
like fundamental things if you think these
games cell I mean, you know,

944
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:13.559
for all we know, Squares super
satisfied with how they do every time out

945
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:15.960
and why change because I mean the
franchise obviously does have a fan base.

946
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.239
From my point of view, they're
not doing anything to bring new people in,

947
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.440
so obviously the numbers must be slipping
a little bit every time out right,

948
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:27.440
My impression of thirteen was that it
did well, but not well enough,

949
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:32.280
not as well as that's why we're
seeing right, Although ironically I would

950
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:36.800
not in any way recommend somebody played
this if they hadn't played and enjoyed the

951
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.719
last one. I feel like like
the sentiment coming out of Japan of like,

952
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.440
you know, we want to take
you know, notes from the West,

953
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.679
we want to take influence from the
West, but it's it's like,

954
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:49.039
Okay, I appreciate that sentiment,
but it doesn't seem like a lot of

955
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.079
them understand or know how you end
up with stuff I like Lost Planet too,

956
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:52.920
Like what is that? What do
you think? What do you think

957
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:55.920
that means? When you say taking
influence from the West? Speak not that

958
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.519
name? And I think maybe having
you know, having us there and say

959
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.440
well and to actually like explain like
no, this is what we mean,

960
01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:06.559
focus testing, We mean things like
this, this, This might sound like

961
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:10.079
the most obvious thing in the world, but you guys coming off krona trigger

962
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.320
might appreciate it. They have done
away with save points. You can save

963
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.239
anywhere you want. Now if you
quit the game and load back in,

964
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.880
it will load you exactly where you
were standing, like auto saves. It

965
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:21.440
also has checkpoints. Yeah, like
it'll checkpoint every I don't know, it

966
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:25.239
seems like every ten fifteen minutes and
you can manually save. So like that's

967
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:27.719
I mean, it's a little convenience
thing. I guess. Yeah, it

968
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.239
makes it makes a better experience,
Like that helps. I don't remember the

969
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:34.079
last time that I lost like really
significant progress in the game other than I

970
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:39.719
don't know, Dark Dark Souls,
other than games that are being deliberately done

971
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.639
on a laws And you say,
you say reckoning as an auto save.

972
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.800
It has an auto save, but
I don't know what It's never been useful,

973
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.800
like it's it's always any I haven't
died a lot in that game,

974
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:54.079
but every time I've died, it's
always reverted back to the last hard save

975
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:56.599
I made, So I don't know
what's going on there. It's a little

976
01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:00.119
if you like some people are still
clinging to that old PC way of doing

977
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:05.199
things to some extent, but actually
didn't mind the same system creature. Yeah,

978
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.400
it's you know, it's the checkpoint. This checkpoints as long as they're

979
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:14.079
spaced. It's because the tension you
get out of the lack of a check

980
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:17.960
point is like when we did the
final boss and we went that whole like

981
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:23.360
Jesus Christ, we had to do
this whole hour again, it adds a

982
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:27.519
lot of like different perspective if you
had to do it all again, probably

983
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:30.840
like bulls. But because but because
we didn't do that, it added so

984
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:36.880
it was so much fun to the
whole experience. Yeah, absolutely is.

985
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:42.440
I mean, like the thing about
the focus tessing stuff is where I wonder

986
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.199
how Squares getting their feedback, Like
when they came through a show and we're

987
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.440
talking about the game, when I
remember asking them like what is the different

988
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:51.880
feedback you get from Western gamers and
and Japanese gamers and how you incorporate that

989
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:56.199
into the game that they said,
well, we look, the Western gamers

990
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.199
said they like quick time events,
so we put that into the battle.

991
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:01.400
So who do you know where quick
how? What? Where did that come

992
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:03.880
from? Like all the bosses,
all the boss fights so far have had

993
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:09.719
quick time events on them. Lame
and and that's that's where are you pulling

994
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:15.119
this info? How are you pulling
this info a results are they checking?

995
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.119
What are you going to? The
other Western guys said, there's stink all

996
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:23.039
over it, And and that's the
thing is that I bet that there actually

997
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:30.559
probably was like a useful kernel,
but not without the right likes of interpretation,

998
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.400
Like you just take that as oh, yeah, quick time events are

999
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:34.639
good, put quick time events in. And that's the note that ends up

1000
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:36.840
going to different But the way the
way that they're implemented in this game is

1001
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:42.039
almost insulting because like that combat does
demand a lot of attention and strategic thinking,

1002
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:45.159
and instead they throw all that out
the window at the end of the

1003
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:47.039
boss fight and make you just hammer
a bunch of buttons to win. That

1004
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.360
sounds really stupid. It's really annoying
because I really like the way that that

1005
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:56.280
stuff plays. You know what,
they need music Dan the boss fight.

1006
01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.760
Yeah, music is a change scheme
has like it's like some death metal boss

1007
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.199
music. Yeah, all of a
sudden he's find his boss. Hey wait,

1008
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:09.079
is there like some horrible jay rock
having in the back down with the

1009
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:13.239
dude screaming at the top of his
lungs. Yeah, And then it was

1010
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.440
kind of funny thirteen that has some
really good, like traditional but it was

1011
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.639
good Final Fantasy issue music this not
so much. Well, what do you

1012
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:21.760
want? Do you want them to
stick to all that stuff or do you

1013
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:26.519
want to totally reinvent it? Do
you want gears dudes in your Final Fantasy

1014
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.920
games because you want it redesigned by
other people? Because that's where that goes,

1015
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.800
isn't it. There's gotta be a
better way to capture more than two

1016
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.840
art styles to go ship. I
was about to make a joke about them

1017
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.480
putting Eco in there, but they're
putting Eteo in there. Yeah. Yeah,

1018
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:44.960
there's a DLC skin coming where one
of there's only two party members in

1019
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:46.599
the game, and one of them
you will be able to pay a fee

1020
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:51.840
and put into an Eteo costume.
This an authority unless that was some kind

1021
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.280
of elaborate hoax, But I saw
a concept art, so I'm inclined to

1022
01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:01.320
believe it. It's really kind of
takes any enthusiasm I have for future Assassin's

1023
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:06.880
creed between the Soul Caliber thing and
the Final Fantasy thing, like you be

1024
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:10.360
soft, get control of your brand. Well, what are you doing?

1025
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:12.960
I want to ask you? I
was moves in Soul Caliber is called rescue

1026
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.920
out on the list. He says
it when you do it, it's not

1027
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:20.640
bad. The guy die. It's
not a one hit to kill. No,

1028
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:26.000
it's just a thrown just does the
world then disintegrate and he sits there

1029
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:30.159
for five minutes. To him,
it's super is called what some full supernization,

1030
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:35.720
full synization. That's kind of clever. That's not even the worst handling

1031
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:44.319
of DLC in thirteen two, though
there is thirty three. Wow, apparently

1032
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.119
that's on the way. What damn. I don't want to get into that

1033
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:50.520
prest much. Which outland there is
there is? Which tale of this game

1034
01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:55.359
should we focus on? There's too
many really good evidence that thirteen three is

1035
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:59.159
coming, like havnt domain has been
registered trademarks, and there's another stuff involved

1036
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:02.520
with how that game? Yeah all
right, yeah, you know what,

1037
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:06.640
I'm almost back in one three.
It's almost so fucking stupid. That's the

1038
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:14.399
one you have belief in. There's
it's gonna file the moogle. That's how

1039
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.279
they're gonna ground it in reality to
Brooklyn. The Moogle's gonna try and read

1040
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:25.520
again. There's an Xbox exclusive that
you can shell out a dollar for.

1041
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.359
Okay, pay a dollar and get
this great weapon, but only in the

1042
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.760
Xbox. Probably the worst part is
the Lightning who is the main character of

1043
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:35.960
the first game, yes, and
who is the only person featured on the

1044
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:41.079
box art of this game, is
barely in the game unless they put her

1045
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.039
on the box art again, unless
you buy the DLC pack that puts her

1046
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.359
in your party. Oh wait,
that's not like a separate story. You're

1047
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:51.680
literally buying the character. My understanding
is that after you complete a certain point

1048
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:58.439
in the game and you've bought this
DLC, then she shows up. We'll

1049
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:02.319
see, I'll see how this p
it's out. I'm so got enough momentum

1050
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:08.960
at this point the story. Uh, it's actually now that the story is

1051
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:12.960
moving. So the way it's broken
out is that you're actually like basically picking

1052
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.840
levels from menu screen. It's like
your time travel interface, and you can

1053
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:19.920
basically travel to different times in different
places, and you unlock more than one

1054
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:21.640
at a time, so you can
actually go to like, all right,

1055
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.680
I've got this thing over here that's
ten years in the future, but then

1056
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:27.520
this other thing over here is three
hundred years in the future, and you

1057
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.239
end up jumping around a lot and
you actually start getting some of the chronic

1058
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:33.680
trigger effect or you know, back
to the future if you like, like

1059
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.439
you you very quickly meet characters in
one place, and then you go like

1060
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.920
another five years in the future and
they remember you and you see how they've

1061
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.920
changed in the last five years.
Like there are there's some cool connections being

1062
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.159
made with the like the temporal stuff. How much time do you cover?

1063
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:51.199
What's your what's your maximum? So
far? I've gone the game starts three

1064
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:55.000
years after the end of thirteen,
and I've gone up to three hundred years

1065
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:57.479
ahead of that. Okay, but
you're not going further. You're going into

1066
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.800
the past at all. I are
not, at least in the story.

1067
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.800
Pretty neat if you actually went back
to the events of thirteen. Yeah,

1068
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:08.239
like a little looked pretty extensive.
So yeah, there seemed to be something

1069
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.680
like thirty thirty five. I think
I'm passing a lot of those are optional,

1070
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.199
but uh, I've given us some
leeway to get better. It seems

1071
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:19.159
like it might have some promising elements, so I will keep going report back

1072
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:24.720
bad about the Bad Music Finals.
Yeah, you squeeze anything else in there.

1073
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:27.720
We asked that franchise to take a
break a couple of years ago.

1074
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.680
I just want to play it,
not Fighter, they did not heat Yeah,

1075
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.239
White Wizard, Yeah you into that. That's totally what I would Black

1076
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:42.079
Wizard, even Fighter just f G. H Ranch. You want to Castle

1077
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:46.039
or who it was? Four?
Yeah, I don't think you would actually

1078
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:50.439
wants to play Final Fantasy. I
don't know. He makes six, man,

1079
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:54.880
I can't believe they didn't do uh, dude, like make a three

1080
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:59.479
DS remake like that. Six.
Besides being ridiculously hard, that DS remake

1081
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:00.479
of four was really good. Yeah, like they did a good job.

1082
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.720
They're holding out and six will get
it. It's due eventually. That's like

1083
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:09.239
the la the one they have not
touched of the two D Final Fantasies because

1084
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:13.560
it most eventually do seven. I
don't know. I think eventually they'll break

1085
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:17.680
that. I mean the options of
other stuff here, it's guaranteed. It's

1086
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:20.560
like it's just huge money. I
think they just have to save that to

1087
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:25.800
absolutely dire situation. But if they
realize they worried that, like that's gonna

1088
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.680
come out and then who's gonna like
that, all those dudes will be who

1089
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.920
wanted to play it are dead.
Wow, that's twenty years from now.

1090
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.840
They'll be like I don't don't.
But they also run into the potential that

1091
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:35.760
they put it back out and then
people sit down and play it like,

1092
01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:40.640
oh oh m, I mean I
might be in the minority. I don't

1093
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.720
think they I don't think they care
what they say after they bought put Yeah,

1094
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:46.800
maybe I'm in the minority. But
seven is the point in my curmudgeonly

1095
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:50.359
memory, when that series kind of
went off the rails. Everything's like that's

1096
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:54.880
when the when No More came on
board, and like they changed. He

1097
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.119
wasn't much he much wasn't much of
an influence. He designed all the characters.

1098
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.359
Sure, like they went from Amano
to to him for the I just

1099
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:03.479
been like, like the look and
the look and the tone changed a lot

1100
01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:06.760
at that point. In addition to
the presentation, like they went all heavy

1101
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:11.680
CG, they went three D.
Also the characters, it's still a little

1102
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.880
of the humor from the from the
kind of non polygonal ones. They're still

1103
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:17.560
a little bit you're right, Yeah, well you're right, because yeah,

1104
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:20.000
like the directors, a lot of
those same guys were still there. They're

1105
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:25.119
still the last one that he was
involved, true, and that made it

1106
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:33.520
a little more fun huge. I
think a lot like you might be.

1107
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:39.840
I thought that was just the name
of his mustache. Yeah, indeed,

1108
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:44.560
I don't know Brad should make you
play anything else or just all fun fantasy,

1109
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:49.000
all attached. Japanese game week around
here around these parts, I guess

1110
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:57.880
they're playing think what other things?
The mortal comments time. Oh on the

1111
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:02.720
Wednesday. Okay, that's not Japanese. Tell you what it is I Residevil.

1112
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.239
Oh, I'm sorry, were you
trying another one of yours? I'm

1113
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:12.079
sorry I didn't pick my back it
up. I'm gonna lay back, go

1114
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:14.880
for it. Hold on, hold
on, hold on, hold on,

1115
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:17.880
all right, let's do this.
No, I'm just gonna say the name

1116
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.640
of the game according to the box. I'm gonna cut all this other stuff

1117
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:30.640
out, and he's got gonna have
any context. No, man, put

1118
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:35.520
that box on eBay. I'll give
where we worshiped to Regaton, give game

1119
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:39.640
Fax credit. They put up some
pole something about it, like ranking the

1120
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.279
Resideval games. And they put it
up purposely misspelled. Nice. How does

1121
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:47.159
that? How Apparently only some of
the US boxes even it wasn't even like

1122
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:50.680
the full run, so maybe they
caught it at some point. Well,

1123
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:55.279
we're not going to recall these they
passed the savings out to you, you

1124
01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:57.760
know they did. They knocked ten
bucks off the price. You're like all

1125
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.800
right, which is uh, one
of the things is making me like that

1126
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:04.720
game more. Actually, like in
all seriousness, like five six hours into

1127
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:11.079
the story now you're not super sweet, it's pretty cool. On the beginning

1128
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:15.239
of that game, much alike thirteen
two, they break it up in this

1129
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.600
weird episodic format where you're never in
one place for very long, Like Resident

1130
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.199
Evil is a lot about like good
sense of place, right, like feeling

1131
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:24.840
like like that mansion, right,
like being trapped in this place and trying

1132
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:29.560
to get out or the police station. Yeah. Yeah, And and the

1133
01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:31.560
beginning of this game has you jumping
around a lot, not just different places,

1134
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:33.560
but different characters. Like it doesn't
feel like you can really get a

1135
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:38.239
handle on what's going on, but
you can jump in now you can jump

1136
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:43.560
in thirteen two, though, do
you like platforming and predetermined platforming with a

1137
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.960
little blue or you can jump over
you want? It just doesn't do you

1138
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:49.399
any good unless there's a little blue
circle there to jump off of. I'm

1139
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:54.840
sorry, Uh, different characters,
yeah, yeah, it feels weird and

1140
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.760
departmentalize. At first, there's like
three kinds of enemies that you're killing over

1141
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:02.680
and over over, and it just
feels limsay and Finn. But around about

1142
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:05.880
episode four of that game, you
kind of get situated where it seems like

1143
01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:10.079
the rest of the game is going
to be uh and it's starting to feel

1144
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:12.920
like a good, proper resident eval
game. What is the what would you

1145
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:16.720
like in the combat most too?
For okay, if you don't have the

1146
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:21.159
circle pad pro which is a whole
separate conversation, or well, let's have

1147
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:25.520
this conversce because I definitely want to
have that conversation. Yeah, yeah,

1148
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:27.960
if you she slapped that thing on. It plays like RD five Okay,

1149
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.399
well actually I'd have to go back
and check. It plays like a third

1150
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:33.880
person shooter. Okay, I'm trying
to but but it's independent. It's independent

1151
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.399
movement and aiming. Okay, but
it is not. It's behind the back.

1152
01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:40.760
It is not like old school fixed
cameras, No, absolutely not.

1153
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.279
It is it like the perspective is
totally ARE four R five. You can

1154
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:47.720
actually set an options first or third
person for for the aiming, but it's

1155
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:51.880
it's very specifically ARE four like you
plant yourself and you can only rotate and

1156
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:57.399
aim without the circle pad. But
it's also that revelation is pretty linear,

1157
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.520
right, like if you're not in
like giant open spaces like are five,

1158
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.319
or you're running around like not individual
rooms. No, like the ship like

1159
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.960
it's a ship. It's basically a
floating mansion that you're in down to like

1160
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:11.960
there's a casino and a giant banquet
hall. It is. It is a

1161
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:17.119
straight up mansion on the sea.
Does anyone say that, like, come

1162
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:23.119
to my imagine of the sea.
So are you kicking it stars stops?

1163
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:28.319
Yeah, you're you're switching between Jill
and Chris in their in Their Stars days.

1164
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.279
Yeah, this is a set between
four and five, which lends some

1165
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:35.359
credibility to the theory that this is
that PSP game that never came out.

1166
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:40.159
Yeah, uh, which I ever
kicked around a little bit kind of looks

1167
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:45.840
like a PSP game, but yeah, it's you know, I found a

1168
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:47.560
key. Are you doing a key
with an anchor on it? And then

1169
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.319
I want to open some doors that
had anchor symbols on them? You're doing

1170
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:56.159
some resident evil shit out there?
Are Have you found some herbs? No?

1171
01:17:56.359 --> 01:18:00.680
But I've used plenty of herbs as
how about some sprays. Uh,

1172
01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:02.840
no, spur well the herbs when
you pick them up and then sprays when

1173
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:10.359
they go in your inventories. Figure
that one. What about liquors No,

1174
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:17.079
not yet, No liquors. Shotguns, yes, upgrading shotguns. No zombies,

1175
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:26.560
bio orchanic weapons, bows I have. I have bow bait in my

1176
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.720
inventory, like grenades that draw them
to them and then explode. Yes,

1177
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:35.359
actually zombie dogs. Yeah you know
what that Jill refers to them as zombies

1178
01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:43.079
even though they are clearly bows.
Somebody needs to check the stars and tell

1179
01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:47.239
her I think or two about zombies. Stupid Jill. You're right. It

1180
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:49.720
is very linear. You have one
objective at the time. The rooms are

1181
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:55.680
small, like there's typically only one
place you can go, but it's pretty

1182
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:58.239
moody. It's pretty atmospheric, which
is weird because I figured, like,

1183
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.359
going into this, I was like, why would you make it game like

1184
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:01.680
this? On? What does that
screen? Two and a half inches?

1185
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:04.439
The three D is pretty nice,
it is. The three is pretty good.

1186
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:08.279
Other than like, you get a
lot of weird like more patterns on

1187
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:10.399
some of the textures, which makes
it seem like they were not meant to

1188
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:14.199
be seen in three D but other
than that it works well. But all

1189
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:18.880
right, so without the circle pad
pro, what what's the what's the aiming

1190
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:23.319
mechanic? Like? How are you
are using the stylus on the screen and

1191
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:26.520
then no, that's a toggle right, yeah, it's just hold hold the

1192
01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:30.520
left shoulder button and go in aiming. Okay, keep tilt tilt control.

1193
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:33.760
There is there is gyroscope aiming,
but like that that's basically incompatible with three

1194
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:35.920
D right, Like, so you
have to take a pick and I'm gonna

1195
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:41.319
use three D. Yes. Tell
me about the circle pad bro, you

1196
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:46.079
got the chance last week to use
circle padro for a couple of hours at

1197
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:50.640
least, it sounded like it was
a really good positive experience. Uh.

1198
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:54.199
I mean it makes the game play
better, you know, being able to

1199
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:57.319
move and shoot at the same time, pretty useful. I don't know that

1200
01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:00.720
it's worth the bulk that it adds
to that thing I think is massive.

1201
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:05.880
It's huge, and for how big
it is, it feels light. It

1202
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:09.880
feels cheap. Yeah, it feels
kind of hollow. I actually thought it

1203
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.520
a light is not how to describe
it. There's some weight on that thing.

1204
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.840
Well yeah, but cheap, cheap, yeah, yeah, flimsy doesn't

1205
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.079
feel solid Chap Brad's point, there's
a hollowness to it that's sort of like

1206
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:23.720
this, you're just gonna disintegrate in
my hand, or even even just like

1207
01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:26.199
holy, I'm like, well,
you could have made the smaller. Yeah,

1208
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:29.000
it makes you wonder why is it
so big if it feels yeah,

1209
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:30.039
it's kind of empty because it doesn't. It doesn't feel like, oh,

1210
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.119
you made it bigger for ergonomic purposes
or something. It's like no, it's

1211
01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:36.119
it's just kind of bait, like, yes, skip getting bigger. You

1212
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:39.399
made the design for it, and
it's like, could we shave No,

1213
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.079
I don't shave anything off of it. You're fine, Yeah, I don't

1214
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:50.239
know. It's large, so distinct
improvement in gameplay though, for for it's

1215
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:54.720
not a super hard game. You
can totally get through that game play on

1216
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.319
without that thing, Like it might
be a little more pleasant to use it,

1217
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:02.000
but not necessary. So you could
you can perfectly well run into a

1218
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.239
corner and hit down and be to
do a one eighty and then shoot the

1219
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:10.000
monsters that are coming at you.
That works, and that's twenty dollars cheaper.

1220
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.760
Yep. Yeah, so it was
really weirdly thirty dollars cheaper because the

1221
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.479
game just dropped. It's really weird
before that price drop, looking at this

1222
01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:20.760
thing and going this was a seventy
dollars proposition to play this right with this

1223
01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:28.840
screen resideval game that with this clunky
thing, like what people freaking love resume?

1224
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.199
Yeah, I don't know. People
are about resume quite enjoy it.

1225
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:38.960
Zombie bananas. You need to use
your owners say it's probably have the brown

1226
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:44.760
spots. It's gross. I thought
it looked pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

1227
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.880
I'm I'm more into it than I
was. Jill Booty, Yeah,

1228
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:55.479
what's up? What's going on?
Is that taking advantage of the three D?

1229
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.880
Yeah, it actually does. It's
right in your face, except that

1230
01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:02.560
accept that ladder climbing angle. Yeah, missed opportunity on that one. She

1231
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:06.600
was wearing some kind of like some
shine of suit and there's just a speculative

1232
01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:15.159
highlight just that's just rounding her like
pristine marble asque booty straight up like somebody's

1233
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:18.279
shining a flashlight directly on it.
Botaf all my favorite movies, The Dog

1234
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.640
and Dog Can kind of kind of
ask you why you're saying booty booty,

1235
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:25.560
because because if you were to see
her ass, you would say that's not

1236
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.960
an ass. It is not a
dairy air. Yeah, naughty posterior is

1237
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:34.119
a booty about rump. If she
were to shake it, then I would

1238
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:40.159
so is mister cal Is he a
downloadable character? Can we get him in

1239
01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:44.279
there? She's too tight for a
run? Can we get three d into

1240
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:46.119
jail? Can can miss the call? See it and judge on whether this

1241
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:51.439
is a I think rump is tighter
than booty. Really, bootyty is everywhere

1242
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:57.399
there is a change fallen into the
wig. I believe there's a bubble ass

1243
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.680
quality to booty. Yeah that maybe
sing from yeah rump. I think of

1244
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:05.039
a little more like meaty and like
you know, shake that rump rump shaka.

1245
01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:11.640
I think booty. I think like
bobbling all over like a bobble head,

1246
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:14.479
but two of them, but like
like like you can puppet is a

1247
01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:16.319
question mumble is a question of muscle
tone. But is it a question of

1248
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:19.880
tone or is a question of size. I don't think they're size both because

1249
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:25.079
it's a width issue. Like I
think you could z access like a stick

1250
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:28.520
out more somehow, like you're gonna
autely on this topic, give us a

1251
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:36.199
call for five away three five ask
Master collar go ahead, it's com I

1252
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:39.760
think the booty, I like the
out of the booty for the backs of

1253
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:46.560
wheat up like a song. And
Jeff could tell this because no one else

1254
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:51.199
would reference an AMG song, but
calling into a fake radio station somebody right

1255
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:54.359
in the other day. She was
wrong though, because it's a DJ Quick

1256
01:23:54.399 --> 01:24:00.159
song featuring AMG. So that idiot
cut him off when it asks I've got

1257
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:05.960
I've got Sean Damron from Blizzard on
my Facebook friends list, and he's the

1258
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:12.600
only other person that with any consistency
can can drop Bay Area mid nineties rap

1259
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.359
references as you can. He's a
great man. He is. He is

1260
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:19.239
when it comes to that stuff.
There's these second to none. Bob's not

1261
01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:28.319
bad either. Biz Blizzard pr team
top of their Bay Area mid nineties independent

1262
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:31.079
boom or Hiphi focused. Yeah,
that makes younger, it makes sense,

1263
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:39.000
makes sense. Sean's from the old
school, so Jill's ass hunts it is

1264
01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:43.840
prominent. He's wearing like a cat
suit thing. Kind of you realized that

1265
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.439
the discussions like this is why they
put these things in these games. I'm

1266
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:54.479
not saying any of us necessarily setting
back games. I'm I'm saying I don't

1267
01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:57.239
think we are the tarret audience for
that well, because I'm bothered by like

1268
01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:00.880
there's a character art stuff for for
Residueable six. I think it's Jill that's

1269
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.640
in a skin tight cat suit in
the character ar she certainly was in five.

1270
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:09.520
That's what I'm thinking of, is
the is the five? It's crazy,

1271
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:15.199
it's very crazy in a low cut
jacket, like really like just character

1272
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:19.720
inappropriate, just like she was a
classy woman her circumstances in five, kind

1273
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:25.199
of she is held against her will, like she's not choose that outfit,

1274
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:29.960
but it's like she returns bleach blonde
hair, skin tight cat suit. I'm

1275
01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:31.840
like, what are you doing?
It's bad. I'm saying that booty is

1276
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:35.680
distracting. I'm not saying it's like
like this is hot, Like yeah,

1277
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:41.760
run around like I can't tell what's
going on because like bright White like distracted

1278
01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:46.800
by Booty, but like not in
a good way. Booty distraction unreleased print

1279
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:51.840
song. Yes, there's a very
bad way Booty distraction distractions that in the

1280
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:57.399
vault. There's thousands of songs that
he has that. But he was like

1281
01:25:57.479 --> 01:26:00.159
this, I need my follow up
to Pussy Control Booty Distraction. That was

1282
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:08.279
the best I can He's like not
good enough. Prince knows quality controls something

1283
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:12.520
something now again the Japanese could learn
from Prince. Prince should go home.

1284
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:16.399
We're not playing no, no,
not anymore. You don't are you saying

1285
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:19.359
Prince should be the main character of
the next Final Fantasy? Why the fuck

1286
01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:30.920
not thirteen three starring Prince? Like
these? Any of these? How about

1287
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:38.840
Prince in a Prince in cool Spot
too? Be pretty cool Spot? Yeah?

1288
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.159
More Spot games. I want to
say there was one in development.

1289
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:47.520
I don't know if everything out,
poor Spot. Back in the day when

1290
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:53.600
you could have a soda mascot be
the hero of a successful video game game.

1291
01:26:53.720 --> 01:27:01.159
It was he game bafflingly better than
you Anoid crap an got it Virgin

1292
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:09.920
Interactive. Remember that David Perry joined
Annoy got a raw No, I don't

1293
01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:14.199
know, Yeah, you got a
game whatever? Man. Capcom published that

1294
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:16.479
one. Really Yeah? That game
came out in Japan, totally different.

1295
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:19.840
They re scanned an existing game,
took the ninjas out, put the noid

1296
01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:25.479
in, or took the main ninja, left all the ninjas in except for

1297
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:30.560
the main character. Right, and
change like the end game is you know,

1298
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:32.880
they just put pizzas in it.
I'm just gonna say, yeah,

1299
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:35.159
I'm just gonna yeah, that's right. Then they rereleased it in Japan,

1300
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:40.520
right. Uh. I'm gonna say
that that was probably a pretty shitty ninja

1301
01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:44.880
based on what I've played, based
on how he handled as pretty annoyed,

1302
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:47.079
pretty as I've never seen you annoyed. I don't want to curious now.

1303
01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:54.640
It's quite interesting. It is,
okay, it is interesting. It is

1304
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:58.960
interesting. I'm holding out for the
Little Caesar game. You play that every

1305
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:05.560
week I lose so fucking Justin McElroy
apparently has a drive through Little Caesar's near

1306
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:09.319
where he lives. He's making ship
up so he doesn't have to get out

1307
01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:12.880
of his car for his fucking five
dollars telling stories for his fantasy podcast.

1308
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:17.359
This isn't even makes fantasy podcast.
He has like eight of the men.

1309
01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:23.720
What it was just about TV?
TV? Like that's a thing, not

1310
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:30.840
anymore. He should record the pizza
buying process. Yeah, exactly, that

1311
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.760
is what I want. I want. I want video video shot from the

1312
01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:38.079
passenger seat of the car of them
driving, then a second shot of the

1313
01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:45.319
car going through all time coded use
your Blazynski brother money to do something good

1314
01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:51.960
for make this happened? Agreed,
it's Brad, that's it. Yeah,

1315
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:59.439
that's a review forthcoming for res navel
Curling on me, especially at forty bucks

1316
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:05.000
Patrick. Last week we finished Crona
Trigger. Yeah, we did. It

1317
01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:10.079
seems like a lifetime ago. It
really does seem like a long It's like

1318
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:13.399
that first day when you don't have
to do one that you're like, oh

1319
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:17.680
man, that's that's my that's mixed
feeling of like, oh god, freedom,

1320
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:21.800
I could catch a cold now,
it would be fine. I could

1321
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:25.960
I could think about like a big
or something, but like no, no,

1322
01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:28.560
But it's like the first day you
kind of miss it. Yeah,

1323
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:30.560
well the first day you're like,
oh no, no, no, no

1324
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:35.000
no. And especially because I hadn't
I had not yet shook the Corona Trigger

1325
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:42.199
music that was by the last week
constantly playing in my head. It went

1326
01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:46.399
from being the occasional hum to just
at all times Corona Trigger music in my

1327
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:49.560
fucking skull, King of the Gatto
theme out of my head. That's the

1328
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:54.760
one that yep, let's partially because
I have it is my ring tone that

1329
01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.920
probably isn't helping you any but it's
that really, it's the real and we're

1330
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:01.239
receiving. Yeah, Hamster from the
apop community, Big ups for the absolutely

1331
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:08.640
got the music. Vocal remix,
vocal remix, Scott Lyrics. Yeah,

1332
01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:12.000
it's pretty good. References, silver
points, yep, it's well done.

1333
01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:15.680
Yeah. And you know what,
that's a good rap beat? Yeah it

1334
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:21.439
works. Uh that was what would
Prince do with it? Make love to

1335
01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:27.359
it all right, and then make
love on it. Yeah, and then

1336
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:30.479
make love to it again. Okay, second time. I know what you

1337
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:34.399
do. He would write it.
You write the beat? Yeah right,

1338
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:40.640
I like Jeff. I like Jeff's
answer. Better write it. That was

1339
01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:44.199
a lot of fun. Ride it
while he writes it. I just want

1340
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:46.279
to say, yeah, God,
And then it was a lot of fun.

1341
01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:50.920
Started delving in, dude, Corona
Cross what no, no, no,

1342
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:56.960
no, no, not like just
looking up story. They just ruined

1343
01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:01.039
Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross like it
it is. The story is in penetry,

1344
01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:03.640
like if someone was to explain it
to you, you you know you

1345
01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:06.239
made that ship up, like that's
not what they did to all the main

1346
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:10.359
characters. And I just had always
assumed because I knew, like, okay,

1347
01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:12.840
Corona Cross is supposed to be like
the follow up the Corona Trigger,

1348
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:17.079
but I was always under the assumption
that or under the impression that it was

1349
01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:21.880
like, yeah, like some minor
characters from Corona Trigger are the focus and

1350
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:25.880
Corona Cross it is, so he
doesn't really have anything to do with or

1351
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:30.239
impact anything from Corona den know,
definitely not true. Okay, it just

1352
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:33.359
makes like Corona was already sort of
convoluted because it's sound travel, yeah a

1353
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.680
little bit, and then this just
layers on way more, way more like

1354
01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:41.680
this. Basically the story fought like
so at the end of uh because we

1355
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.279
had Magus or Bagas at the end, and he's references a shalah as he's

1356
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:49.159
about to go off and track that
down. That's basically the jumping off point

1357
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:53.840
for Corona Cross. So there are
like references to all the characters and you

1358
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:57.880
get some sort of it's it's a
bunch of bullshit, like and the game

1359
01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.319
had a great combat system too.
Actually, oddly enough, you know,

1360
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.119
given the talking about Final Fantasy thirteen, like Cronacross had a great, really

1361
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:08.640
fast combat system, but just they
had like forty five characters in that game

1362
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.560
too. I remember that. That
was what I remember was like it had

1363
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:15.199
an insane number of it's almost like
a half sweak at it, Yeah,

1364
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:20.319
gosh sweak aten Uh. Well,
I wanted to bring up the credic trigger

1365
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:24.279
thing and say that we had a
ton of fun doing that. Yeah,

1366
01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:26.840
really enjoyed it. And it's still
there on the site, and so if

1367
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:29.439
you haven't watched that, you can
start from the beginning and relive the magic

1368
01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:30.920
for the first time. Indeed,
and I just wanted to clear the air

1369
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:34.960
that that there will not be another
Dirt's Run anytime soon. And I appreciate

1370
01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:42.079
everyone's enthusiasm for it, but don't
ask. I know it happens every time.

1371
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:45.039
Yeah, that was the thing that
I realized as you guys were coming

1372
01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:45.720
out of the room. Yeah,
it's like, oh, because I saw

1373
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:48.520
someone immediately go like, what's next? Like fuck. Well, it starts

1374
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:51.920
off with the with the folks who
are like kind of like there's a little

1375
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:55.279
bit of joking, a little light
joking, like you guys just went through

1376
01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:58.159
this, what's the next one?
But it's not long before we're like no,

1377
01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:00.920
it's like, seriously, what's the
next one? I need another one

1378
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.760
of these. Because as much as
as we had become used to come in

1379
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:08.720
and recording it. I think a
lot of people also found a comfort in

1380
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:12.800
the daily thing every day, and
every day they'd come in and have a

1381
01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:17.479
half hour to just just waste and
Superman for the twenty say possible. I

1382
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:23.359
kind of wish we'd announcing that's all. You're saying, you're prepared to announce

1383
01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:27.840
the next one. Yeah, I'm
pleased to announce that Patrick and Ryan will

1384
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:31.159
be playing Superman for the tent.
But if we had done the super Metroid

1385
01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:35.239
thing, I don't. I almost
wanted to cut that out now so that

1386
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:41.439
that doesn't even that seat doesn't even
get fucking planted in anyone's minds. But

1387
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.760
it wasn't. It was only just
to drive everyone fucking insane. That's true,

1388
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:47.600
That's just not. The intent was
not to actually play super Metroid.

1389
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.119
All right, Well, I guess
I guess with that context. So yeah,

1390
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:55.000
one of the ideas was after the
end of the the once we reached

1391
01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:58.840
credits on the Chronic Trigger and Durance
run, which we didn't which we partally

1392
01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:02.520
didn't do this because didn't really think
it out, but also that and kind

1393
01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:08.239
of ran along. Yeah, the
idea was we would immediately put in Super

1394
01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:11.560
Metroid, which I've never played.
And if people think that, they go

1395
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.479
crazy watching me play fucking Crona Trigger. Hold on your goddamn hats, trying

1396
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.399
to watch me play fucking super Metroid. How much that would just drive everyone

1397
01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:24.560
completely bananas. But we're not gonna
do No, we did not do that.

1398
01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:27.359
We're not going to do that.
But it was funny. It was

1399
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:31.159
funny to think about either way.
Yeah, Crona Trigger Great Games Classic.

1400
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:34.279
Turns out that I just want to
check out the DS region now because it

1401
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:41.479
had a totally different translation. Yeah, but UZI Punch is not us as

1402
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:45.640
far as I like Mega Punch.
They took out because of the gun reference.

1403
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:47.800
Did you go see the Ted Woolsey
has a panel at GDC. I'm

1404
01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:51.479
gonna go. You should go front
Row heckle him messed up. Bromused to

1405
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:56.720
read broad lines. That's right.
We did spend a fair amount of time

1406
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:00.880
kind of breaking down certain elements of
the translation. I mean, the story

1407
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:04.960
was that he barely had any time
to do it right, and basically a

1408
01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:08.399
rom hack. Yeah, it's not
just that, it was you were,

1409
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:12.159
like, you're fitting English text into
the original space that was allotted for the

1410
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:15.399
Japanese, which totally Yeah. Yeah, they're all just a crazy compromises made

1411
01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:17.359
in the nineties to get those.
It was, I mean, it was

1412
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:21.600
like I think main like, it
is a pretty well written game. I

1413
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:28.079
think generally speaking, there's just certain
choices of how dialects, how dialects are

1414
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:30.600
are shown in texts, Like Okay, we get it. This guy is

1415
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:33.960
supposed to have a proper like English
accent, but you don't have to put

1416
01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:42.520
just all of this antique language in
every single fucking sentence, specially because come

1417
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:45.479
across, wasn't nobody else from that
time period to talk that way. Furthermore,

1418
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:47.000
he doesn't talk that way before he
becomes a fucking frog. Yeah,

1419
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:49.800
but it was like this, it's
the thing. It was like, this

1420
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:55.439
becomes this weird affectation for this dude
when he becomes a frog. If you

1421
01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:57.960
turned into a frog, it would
probably change a lot of shit about your

1422
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.520
life. I guess. So you
make good points, true, Ted,

1423
01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:09.319
I redact that previous critique considering where
video Okay, then just the caveman all

1424
01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:13.319
talking in you know me, no, like bullshit, It's like that's just

1425
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:17.079
it's growing to read. Considering where
your translations and video games had been previously

1426
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:23.800
that stuff is okay at the time. Yeah, standards coming from like I

1427
01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:27.479
feel asleep. You're probably totally right, You're well, this is it was

1428
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:30.640
like a revelation before you're playing.
It was ninety five ninety five, which

1429
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:34.439
whatever. There have been horrible translations
beyond ninety five. I mean, yeah,

1430
01:36:34.479 --> 01:36:39.359
Final Fantasy seven has a notoriously awful
translation. Yeah, so so it's

1431
01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:43.359
it can it can still happen regardless
of the time of it, and I'm

1432
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:46.199
sure that if I had seen it
then my standards would have been a lot

1433
01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:49.880
different. But it's also just a
really good story, so it survives any

1434
01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.760
sorts of translation it comes. It
does. You're right, though it does

1435
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:58.520
get convoluted. It's back when saving
the world meant something. Yeah, feathered

1436
01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:02.840
hair, it's still cool. Dude, still didn't talk though, Yeah,

1437
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:06.640
it's the original sign would protagonist?
I think about that they remade Corona trigger

1438
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:12.359
all with the sea and the more
art. Oh god, would you rather

1439
01:37:12.439 --> 01:37:15.439
have all a crritoryama art? I
mean, it's talk about that. You

1440
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:18.760
want to you want to talk about
the same guy over and over. I

1441
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:24.279
mean, have you seen the three
D Dragon Quest games? Have you seen

1442
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:27.000
what a curritoryama art looks like in
three D. He probably doesn't even do

1443
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:30.000
any of that stuff. That's what
his stuff. Yeah, he hasn't done

1444
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.279
it for twenty years. Probably back
to Jeff sent did you all Gears of

1445
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:40.520
Wars? Dudes? Exactly? Two
giant shoulder pads running through time saving the

1446
01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:43.800
world. All right, everything's been
done, packing up the more video games.

1447
01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:45.680
Video games are over. There's nothing
else. If I played some Gears

1448
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:50.760
of War this weekend, it's travel
through time. I don't believe so missed

1449
01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:55.880
opportunity? Which one did you play? I watched dudes die though? So

1450
01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:59.560
three? Okay, so I've finished
it. If you were to play that

1451
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:02.680
feels you could. Are you did? You had traveled through time? Yeah?

1452
01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:08.039
But I didn't. I haven't finished
the game first, Before I get

1453
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:15.199
to that part, I don't have
any thoughts on Here's War three still,

1454
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:20.600
there's some story stuff about it that
I still feel a little weird getting into

1455
01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:26.720
fair enough, because you know,
it's big events in that game. I

1456
01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:30.039
guess, uh. I played a
little bit of that. I went through

1457
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:35.800
the Saints Row Gank You Bowl DLCI
which yeah, which, yeah, I

1458
01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:38.880
mean what you guys said last week. I think it was. It was

1459
01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:42.399
very spot on about like what the
actual contents of that of that DLC were.

1460
01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:45.479
But I was still so fucking thrilled
to have any excuse to go back

1461
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:48.960
into that game that I then ended
up like spending another four hours, like

1462
01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:51.840
running around getting all of the collect
like doing the mop up ship that I

1463
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:55.880
hadn't done before that I had already
said like I'm not ever gonna do that.

1464
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:57.479
I'm like, well, ever,
I got the game in and I

1465
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:00.319
blew through this stuff. Let's let's
go, let's go and do some other

1466
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:04.399
some other dumb shit in here.
So like just as as a reason to

1467
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:09.520
throw stans for the third back into
my three sixty, I was. I

1468
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:13.560
was happy to have that UC panel
coming for that too. Yeah that sounds

1469
01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:16.720
great. I really want to hear
showing like like they got cut showing like

1470
01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:20.319
previous footage and talking about cut features. Yeah, I'd love to see previous

1471
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:25.479
stuff. I'd love to hear about
like at what point, like where were

1472
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:30.199
they in the design process when they
decided like like no, this is this

1473
01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:32.800
is how far we're gonna take it. If that was a thing that was

1474
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:35.119
like at the very beginning, or
if they were just kind of like doing

1475
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:36.960
stuff, and the designs were like, well, what if we make this

1476
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:41.079
crazy? What if we do this? And like this found themselves liking it

1477
01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:45.159
more and more as they got more
weird with it. If those rickshaws explode

1478
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:46.800
when you shoot them, yeah,
which which I still I'd love to hear

1479
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.800
about that, because I that just
sounds like a producer solving a problem.

1480
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:55.039
Yeah. I like, okay,
well, we don't really have a budgets

1481
01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:59.039
like time to animate these things blast
apart, and so you're using the system

1482
01:39:59.239 --> 01:40:01.319
Yeah, yeah, control these things. We've already kind of cobbled this thing

1483
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:05.319
together. What we do side effect
blow up and that'll be way funny,

1484
01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:08.760
Like you're right, that would be
alright, good done. I figured that

1485
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.439
they were just like, all right, original prototype for this sequence. Well,

1486
01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:14.760
we haven't built anything for the rick
shaws yet, so we're just using

1487
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:16.640
the car physics underneath. Like oh
sure, sure. I just just sort

1488
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:20.119
of like, all right, we're
early on this. It happened, it's

1489
01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:24.119
like, well, obviously we're gonna
get rid of the explosion like nos explosions

1490
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:27.680
hysterical leave that in. But either
either way, it definitely seemed like a

1491
01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:31.119
thing of of of necessity than anything
else. But I'd love to hear it,

1492
01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:38.720
right, you're gonna say something else. Oh that's it, so,

1493
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:44.359
yes, here's war and that I'm
not quarrel for a second. Yeah,

1494
01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:48.279
what's up my profound disappointment with quarrel? What's what? What? What's up?

1495
01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:50.920
For? As much as I want
to like it, what is it

1496
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:55.600
that's disappointing about everything? For you? Every aspect of it is so fucking

1497
01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:00.760
unpleasant to deal with, just the
amount of like basically the cheating that goes

1498
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.199
on on both sides, Like how
it is apparently basically unplayable online now,

1499
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:08.239
oh, because everyone everybody just sits
there with an anagram website open, typing

1500
01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:14.600
all the letters the words with friends
and then and the AI similarly, like

1501
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.640
yeah, it's the AI, right
of course, Like the idea that if

1502
01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:20.079
you come up with the same word, it's whoever came up with it first

1503
01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:24.640
wins, and one of them is
the computer is always the one that's gonna

1504
01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:28.279
come up with because you'll see you'll
see the computer file. It's choice,

1505
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:30.880
yea. At some point. Yeah, they do kind of just randomize,

1506
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:34.439
you know, and there are levels
to like to the AI intelligence and that

1507
01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:39.279
seems to pretty correct. Yeah,
it's still super weird construct But like I

1508
01:41:39.399 --> 01:41:42.680
was reading like comments on the quick
Look, we're saying that that Domination mode,

1509
01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:45.399
which is basically like the story mode, is basically unbeatable because the AI

1510
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:48.960
gets so good by the end that
you just cannot like it'll get the letter

1511
01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:53.279
word on every single thing that it
does. And yeah, it's just like

1512
01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:55.720
I kept having the computer, like
I would go up against it was like

1513
01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:58.840
five to two or whatever, and
they would pull my like every time,

1514
01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:00.720
which is nine point. It's like, yeah, of course you had my

1515
01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:04.199
in there and beat my five letter
word. Just I don't know, it

1516
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:09.359
didn't seem very balanced at all to
me. I always the concept of the

1517
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:11.600
game is fantastic. That's why I
was kind of I was kind of a

1518
01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:14.680
little bummed about it. That's why
I always just looked to the highest value

1519
01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:17.000
letters first, because I know you
want to get those. You want to

1520
01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:20.800
if there's a Y or a J
or something like that. Que I was

1521
01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:25.920
just pausing the game and using the
Internet to look upwards and beating the computer

1522
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:29.399
that way. Why we don't play
Words with Friends? Oh yeah, yeah,

1523
01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:32.239
I don't play Words and Friends with
them terrible person to play words with

1524
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:36.520
friends with. Yeah, I'm really
good at it though totally all to that

1525
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.680
same end though, like it's it
seems like it's and I think also,

1526
01:42:41.079 --> 01:42:44.239
you know, in a weirdly sort
of similar way apples to apples. It's

1527
01:42:44.319 --> 01:42:46.720
like it's who you play with that
that is what it comes down to.

1528
01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:50.039
But I still love the concept of
for for quarrel. Yeah, it's it's

1529
01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:57.479
a fantastic idea of mixing a boggle
scrabble idea with risk and uh and I

1530
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:00.079
think like those parts doing it really
well. But I have heard enough people

1531
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:05.279
Will Smith was bellyaching about the iOS
Ai for months and months. I was

1532
01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:08.039
like, oh, I don't see
what you're talking about. But apparently that

1533
01:43:08.159 --> 01:43:11.960
is still an issue. So do
you see the thing the Xbox Live word

1534
01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:16.840
filter that's screwing up that game?
What's up? So there are certain words

1535
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:21.039
that are just through Xbox Live,
like you can't use them in any sort

1536
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:26.239
of input context. Uh, like
gods is one of them? Or god?

1537
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:30.359
Uh? There there's like balls that
you can't use, Like there's certain

1538
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:32.720
ones that you can see how this
would into a word filter. So apparently

1539
01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:39.199
connect money ball if you turn off
family settings, and then when you play

1540
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:41.880
a single player you can use all
those words. The game doesn't filter them,

1541
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.479
but the moment you go online,
family settings is defaulted like cast.

1542
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.399
That's part of the way this filter
works is like that filter is a choice

1543
01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:54.079
offline, but is mandatory online.
So like words like balls and gods,

1544
01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:58.039
which can have negative connotations but are
totally appropriate words that you could use in

1545
01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:01.760
this uh can not be used,
but the game doesn't, like it just

1546
01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:04.760
won't let you use the word.
But it's not anywhere explicit that like,

1547
01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:11.079
you shouldn't be able to use these
words, and the developer couldn't get Microsoft

1548
01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:14.720
to disclose the words so that they
get at least so you see that from

1549
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:16.399
Microsoft send where they're like they don't
want to disclose all of their filter words.

1550
01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:19.680
Yeah, but the developers like,
how do I know what words to

1551
01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:25.279
noting there there? It's a word
based game, and Microsoft wouldn't disclose the

1552
01:44:25.399 --> 01:44:29.359
words, so you just it's basically
the community is having to figure out which

1553
01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:31.439
words are part of the filter,
so you don't use those words. I

1554
01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:36.079
think dice like dic is also a
word that like whatever reason won't won't go

1555
01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:44.520
through. I played quim in quarrel. So that's there's no filter. Oh

1556
01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:47.079
okay, it's using a standard dictionary
that there are just then a filter on

1557
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:50.760
top of that Microsoft employees and play
the only one you play it online?

1558
01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:54.159
Okay, but if you play.
Yeah, And so I don't know.

1559
01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:57.000
Microsoft said they're getting back to me
about it. So maybe I'll have an

1560
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.840
answer by the time this goes up. But I my email to see if

1561
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:08.199
they've gotten back toight. But no
dice, But very good. That leave

1562
01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:12.680
that on the table. Nothing else
to be done. Speak, go wait,

1563
01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:15.239
do it. I don't have anything. Oh you fucker come on.

1564
01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:19.439
You can't just bust out and Dice
is next week? Yeah? Fun had

1565
01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:25.640
a choice there, Uh, Jeffer
Patrick, you'll be going to dice,

1566
01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:30.239
that's the idea in theory. Yeah. Maybe, And if you do,

1567
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:34.199
I won't know until you come back. So yeah, nope, when we

1568
01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:36.479
come back, it'd be like,
what happened? Dude? You don't want

1569
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:41.520
to know? Actually you don't.
And that's the based on how Dice usually

1570
01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:45.319
goes. No. I did my
first and probably last in a while dice

1571
01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:47.239
last year, and I love it
was a ton of fun. You learned

1572
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:49.359
a lot the words were great,
met a lot of people, learned a

1573
01:45:49.439 --> 01:45:54.680
lot. Absolutely, It's the most
casual events of the year. Yeah,

1574
01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:59.760
usually pretty fun. Yeah, work. Sure. He got to see Mark

1575
01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:02.600
sur you talk. Yeah, see
Richard Garriott talk about going to fucking space.

1576
01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:06.439
Right. I haven't seen Mark documentaries
coming out. Really does he does.

1577
01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:10.000
I saw a trailer for it is
not yet, No. I thought

1578
01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:12.640
people said it was on Netflix.
Maybe maybe, I don't know. I

1579
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:16.079
think it was at Okay. Oh, yeah, you're right, You're right,

1580
01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:18.720
because I saw pictures of him like
at a premiere or something. But

1581
01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:21.840
yeah, he just basically got up
on stage and like talked all about his

1582
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:27.600
fucking ship, his space ship moon
and can go to the moon, uh,

1583
01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:30.840
his space travels. And then he
end said yeah, and then we're

1584
01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:35.279
gonna send everyone to space peace.
It was awesome. Got Richard Garriott,

1585
01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:39.159
I want to go to space.
You and John Karmack gonna take me to

1586
01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:40.880
space. I think that was with
how that ended, right, It was

1587
01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:42.840
like it was like, pretty much, I'm talking to John Karmack, just

1588
01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:48.199
send y'all space peace. Every Yeah, fucking dropped the mic and took off

1589
01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:55.479
rocket left with two thin little rest
That's how the movie ends. Yes,

1590
01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:59.800
his red tails get into their own
personal rocket. God. I think it's

1591
01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:02.560
like the one, doesn't it it's
too really yeah, it was at least

1592
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:06.720
at Dice it had multiple I wouldn't
give for just one rat tail. Motherfucker's

1593
01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:12.560
got to flaunting it. It's been
too space. Yeah, he created Ultimo,

1594
01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:16.439
has two rat takes another rat tails
castle. It's a space rat tail

1595
01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:19.560
building castle at all. Yeah,
it's like dark Phoenix. You know it's

1596
01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:24.119
gonna come alive. And did he
blow all of his money on that or

1597
01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:28.720
the castle? The trip? So
the said during Dice was like like yeah,

1598
01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.560
at this point basically just you know, game development is funding me going

1599
01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:33.640
to space, and once I ran
out of money, got to go make

1600
01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:38.159
another game so I can get the
space. That's it. I love that,

1601
01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:40.560
you know, single minded determination.
There's something too. Yeah, that

1602
01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:45.079
man's Tabby Ross going strong now social
ever he went space. Yeah, so

1603
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:50.079
just will always always have a leg
up in any argument space. Did he

1604
01:47:50.720 --> 01:47:54.960
was it? Was he just high
orbit or was he space space? A

1605
01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:00.479
space station? Probably lower orbits?
Yeah, okay, what's this agenda?

1606
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:05.399
What's he doing up there? His
dad wasn't NASA? Do you need something

1607
01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:09.039
other than just I want to go
to space. I want to go to

1608
01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:11.439
space. What do you want to
do up there? Be in space?

1609
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:15.039
I want to do a giant laser. There you go? Is that it's

1610
01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:17.680
not allowed into space. I want
to pioneer program by which we launch all

1611
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:20.880
our garbage directly into the sun.
And why won't Why don't we do that?

1612
01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:25.000
It's probably too expensive, right,
because but what happens when the first

1613
01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:28.840
rocket explodes and garbage goes everywhere?
It goes into the sun. Right,

1614
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:35.760
I'll just keep it in the sun
like whatevers in the air, blows up

1615
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:39.960
and disposable rockets that we can get
into order. Well, that's what out

1616
01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.680
of Earth's atmosphere pointed directly at the
Sun. No more dumps, no more

1617
01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:48.960
landfills. This is my platform launch
garbage into the sun, Brad. This

1618
01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:51.239
is why you launched out of Florida, so that if it explodes, no

1619
01:48:51.359 --> 01:49:00.199
harm. Look like Florida to wash
whatever. Should know it's easy or the

1620
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:10.039
closer to podcast Florida we're talking about, Prince gets his propers. Here's to

1621
01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:14.880
achieve escape velocity the closer to the
equator. That's why we watched from Florida

1622
01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:20.760
and Texas because I also watched from
Earth, which if you haven't seen it,

1623
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:25.359
that's really good because burn up when
before it even gets the sun,

1624
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:34.560
it won't even get close exactly,
just burn up all the Some environmentalist being

1625
01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:42.520
like, what if it lands on
an alien planet and then weird dicks welling

1626
01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:47.399
atmosphere? Maybe well, we don't
know anything about the atmosphere. The environments

1627
01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:51.279
will be more peeved about the rocket
fuel birds to get this garbage in a

1628
01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:56.199
space what's better though, burning some
rocket fuel or filling the planet with junk?

1629
01:49:57.119 --> 01:50:02.119
What dolphins choking on? Six pack
ring or some rocket fuels? This

1630
01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:12.439
way to plug that? Everyone?
Every eagles six still a very serious problem.

1631
01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:15.239
Not everyone cuts their fucking six pack. How many fucking so it is,

1632
01:50:15.319 --> 01:50:18.039
come in six packs with the rings
on them, still sell them all

1633
01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:23.600
over the place. What are you
talking about? You can six They would

1634
01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:26.279
come in cardboard, go to a
seven to eleven and buy a six pack

1635
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:29.239
of beer. They sell it like
a six pack of beer, do they?

1636
01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:34.079
Yeah? I thought they like rings? Yeah, still the same ship

1637
01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:38.159
I saw it was like they had
they started like shrink wrapping them into some

1638
01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:40.600
of that. Yeah, there's some
of that. There's three pack of tall

1639
01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:44.880
cans of Budweiser. Yeah, you're
right, those were totally right. Rings

1640
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:46.319
are made out of cord. At
this point, it might be yeah,

1641
01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:51.600
everything's made of corn. Yeah,
all this is why we need a space

1642
01:50:51.640 --> 01:50:57.520
elevator. I would I would,
you know what? Rocket would be more

1643
01:50:57.560 --> 01:51:00.640
fun because I would accept a space
elevator. You say, a space elevator

1644
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:03.079
to the space station. Then you
just go outside and chuck rowing it.

1645
01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:14.199
So it's good to make it.
Take this SPF fuck you. I like

1646
01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:16.640
the idea of throwing garbage at the
sun from the space I wasn't like the

1647
01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:20.319
idea of like a million dollars,
a million dollars trip to just hurrow the

1648
01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:24.600
styrofoam cup at the sun and then
go back down. Done, take a

1649
01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:27.239
picture. All right, let's go
back down. I think I've done.

1650
01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:29.920
That's it. That's all. That's
all I can bring with me. Was

1651
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:32.199
that one piece of garbage TASA two. That was maybe not the most effective

1652
01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:39.359
using everybody's time of the mass this
time, it's not better build the misterfusion.

1653
01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:43.720
Yeah, that's the only solution.
Two options, throw the garbage into

1654
01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:46.840
space or build misterfusion. These are
the two projects. I was fun.

1655
01:51:48.199 --> 01:51:50.880
The only two plus the only two
projects, and once one of them is

1656
01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:54.680
successful, you're shutting down the other. Yeah, so there's a little competition.

1657
01:51:55.159 --> 01:51:57.600
Yes, so it's like, hey, get your ship together, exact

1658
01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:00.239
projects, because we will ask your
ass The mister fusion would get us to

1659
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:03.319
space on its own, I think, well, then you could just power

1660
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:08.960
the rockets. By then you're using
the garbage to burn his fuel. Then

1661
01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:13.800
then why I even send the rocket
exactly? We didn't think. I'm saying

1662
01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:17.159
that you're taking people into space because
whatever. And then you're throwing people at

1663
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:21.119
the sun because they're prisoners. There's
way too many of that because everyone that's

1664
01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:28.039
the other part of my project,
more prisons. Man, I'm not I'm

1665
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:31.840
sending my endorsement. Are you a
criminal or you're afraid you might get launched

1666
01:52:31.880 --> 01:52:36.680
into the sun for being a murderer
or a raper? Because those the sorts

1667
01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:40.640
of people that deserve to get launched
in No, because I want to see

1668
01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:47.319
more Kevin Bacon movies. Alright,
he's got burning up in orbit, cralling

1669
01:52:47.399 --> 01:52:51.119
him into the suns because you think
he did some bad stuff because you saw

1670
01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:58.720
Sleepers on HBO. I did horrible
stuff to the space station. The space

1671
01:52:58.800 --> 01:53:03.119
catapults take him to the murder sling
shots very direct to the point. Name.

1672
01:53:05.640 --> 01:53:09.000
Yeah, well you don't want to
misunderstand. You don't want to make

1673
01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.439
it sound like a cool thing,
like, oh, space sling shot,

1674
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:13.520
let's go, I want to go
up there. Like no, it's like

1675
01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:15.840
how in my mind spaceling shot.
Everybody hopes he just made it to the

1676
01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.800
sun. Can't see him anymore.
He just just assume he made it to

1677
01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:24.560
the sun. Well he's gonna or
he'll make it to the sun eventually out

1678
01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:29.720
of an unusual for to for you
to not launch him with some oxygen so

1679
01:53:29.880 --> 01:53:30.880
you can see it go down.
I mean, how does that work?

1680
01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:34.319
Like, what's the what's he's you
want to get? Like and he sucked

1681
01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:36.760
into the vacuum space and killed?
Or do you launch with the sun and

1682
01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:41.800
let him burn up in a space
suit so he's protected until he Jeff,

1683
01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:46.119
here's the thing. The sun is
super far away, right, I don't

1684
01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:53.840
think he would survive just a like
all right, like sub lights being strip

1685
01:53:55.119 --> 01:54:00.920
it's the space sling shot will shoot
you fast. You have to save that

1686
01:54:01.039 --> 01:54:04.680
for your second term. Come on, come on, you gotta have you

1687
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:09.159
have some sort of carrot on that
the second term is when it goes below

1688
01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:14.560
murderers, and there's just more undesirables, a lot of murderers. So this

1689
01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:21.159
guy who ran against me in the
election launch, Well, best of luck

1690
01:54:21.199 --> 01:54:25.199
to you in your campaign, Jeff, thank you. We're doing quite well.

1691
01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:28.159
And you know, I think of
the children have fun at Dice.

1692
01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:30.960
I guess it's the moral that's where's
gonna announce this platform. Yeah, talk

1693
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:38.239
about this with some people. Yeah, get Garrett Karmack might have some real

1694
01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:43.359
world you've been talking to John again, Jesus Christ. Murder sling shot.

1695
01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:46.840
It sounds like something Karmack could come
up with. Just that sounds like something

1696
01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:49.520
and read, Yeah that can that
can be a weapon at murder sling shot

1697
01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:53.880
and you launch it into the arena
where they all do battle. I told

1698
01:54:53.920 --> 01:55:00.600
you, Richard, it's a great
idea. People act. See uh is

1699
01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:03.960
like his chicken scratch. There's like
a napkin that he's got his equation written

1700
01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:06.840
on about the murder sling shot.
But it's actually just just like shot,

1701
01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:14.680
a blow that says hell of fast
line and then the other end the sun

1702
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:21.920
not even like a circle with like
little line sticking off the sun texts,

1703
01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:29.640
nothing more looking too showy. It's
just kind of play. Oh. I

1704
01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:32.319
played a little bit of Friday,
Uh, maybe an hour or so of

1705
01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:36.079
this Xbox lot of ArKade game that
came out last week Canami Publishing called Puddle,

1706
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:40.960
and it was I looked into it
something. It was a twenty ten

1707
01:55:41.159 --> 01:55:45.039
I GF winner, Yeah, student
game, and uh, I yeah,

1708
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:46.960
played a bit of it on Friday. It's uh, it's kind of cool.

1709
01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:51.560
I'm curious to see published by I
know which is. You know it's

1710
01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:55.560
gonna say it's opposed by Konami.
But it's kind of cool. I know.

1711
01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:59.359
That's why I said it. Okay, is this the game that's like

1712
01:55:59.399 --> 01:56:03.600
there's the element mental. It's all
fluid dynamics, Okay, or it's at

1713
01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:09.319
least what I've played mostly fluid dynamics. But it's basically it's the story of

1714
01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:15.119
this spilled cup of coffee. Like
the game opens and like this black silhouette

1715
01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:16.960
of a man in an office is
poured himself a cup of coffee, puts

1716
01:56:17.039 --> 01:56:21.720
the cup down, and then you
become in control of the fluid inside of

1717
01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:25.439
that cup of coffee, and so
you're using like the left and right triggers

1718
01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:29.840
to basically like slash it like left
or right, and then that's your controls

1719
01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:32.239
for the rest of the game is
just tilting the momentum from one side to

1720
01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:35.199
the other, and you like basically
you get out of the coffee cup,

1721
01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:38.159
you hit the floor, you go
through some drains, and you eventually get

1722
01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:43.000
purified into just water, and then
you go through like further sewer works and

1723
01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:47.239
you're trying to avoid like it's basically
each there's there's discrete levels, and each

1724
01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:53.560
level requires you to get to the
end with a certain amount of fluid intact,

1725
01:56:54.159 --> 01:56:58.039
so you can lose You can lose
fluid by like there are heat elements

1726
01:56:58.079 --> 01:57:00.159
that if you run into them directly
will burn up, or if if you

1727
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.239
sit on other like warm elements for
too long, your your water will evaporate.

1728
01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:08.640
Roll over a sponge, Uh,
there's there's sponges there, but there's

1729
01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:11.800
like just like straight up holes that
you can get lost in. The heat

1730
01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:14.560
stuff seems like it is in those
early levels kind of the main thing to

1731
01:57:14.640 --> 01:57:17.479
look out for, but it has
the feel of the fluid dynamics is good.

1732
01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:20.000
It's all too deep so you don't
have to worry about it. Spreading

1733
01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:25.760
out too crazy. Uh, but
then it but then eventually it becomes other

1734
01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:30.199
fluids, You become other chemicals that
have other properties, and then you have

1735
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:32.720
to kind of use the use the
material accordingly. Like you get the stuff

1736
01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:39.119
that can be caustics. You can
actually burn new paths at specific points to

1737
01:57:39.359 --> 01:57:43.760
to kind of keep your progress moving
forward. Pretty cool. I guess just

1738
01:57:43.800 --> 01:57:46.159
ten bucks, we're gonna do something
on it video wise this week, so

1739
01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:49.600
we'll have something for you to actually
look at to put a face to the

1740
01:57:49.680 --> 01:57:53.479
name. I guess, but I'd
love to look at stuff. Uh but

1741
01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:56.039
yeah, I kind of I kind
of dug what I'd played of it.

1742
01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:01.640
Definitely starting to get to the point
of of like, well, okay,

1743
01:58:01.720 --> 01:58:05.960
I screwed up this, you know, this jump or whatever, and so

1744
01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:10.600
I have to kind of restart the
whole thing. It give me kind of

1745
01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:14.880
harsh if you missed like a particularly
Yeah, it's sort of like I just

1746
01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:17.439
told the misjudge the times I've lost
three fourths in my liquid. I really

1747
01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:20.800
should just start over because there are
and it has gimmes that that you can

1748
01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:27.119
use. They're called they have a
funny name for him. But definitely when

1749
01:58:27.159 --> 01:58:28.399
it happens to me. I'm like, oh, I just want to I

1750
01:58:28.479 --> 01:58:31.239
want to start over. Uh.
But there are times when it's like you

1751
01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:35.720
have to be going at like full
throttle to make it over an upcoming jump.

1752
01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:38.840
But then there are other times where
if you're going full throttle, you're

1753
01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:42.199
just gonna eat it right into an
obstacle of some kind. So some of

1754
01:58:42.279 --> 01:58:45.840
it's like just trial and error based
like that. But and it is definitely

1755
01:58:45.840 --> 01:58:48.199
getting harder. I think I'm just
getting into kind of the middle of the

1756
01:58:48.279 --> 01:58:51.479
second area here, and it's,
uh, it's it's getting a little tougher.

1757
01:58:51.560 --> 01:58:56.600
But I've liked what I played in
it so far. What else I

1758
01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:00.760
played some misspac Man? Okay,
it's pretty good. Yeah. I decided

1759
01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:08.079
this weekend that it's about communism.
M m. So it's like a breadline

1760
01:59:08.199 --> 01:59:15.319
or like what what's the four agents
harassing the individual, trying to prevent them

1761
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:19.479
from consuming too much? All right, So they're trying to enforce the communist

1762
01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:24.159
agenda, whereas Miss pac Man is
just trying to do what she wants,

1763
01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:27.520
which is eat everything, just eat
everything, including the agents. Yes,

1764
01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:30.960
it's got some kind of randy it's
probably something like that and they're if I

1765
01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:34.560
had to, I had to guess. I did some furniture moving this weekend

1766
01:59:34.720 --> 01:59:36.760
to make one of my the rooms
in my house, the room where the

1767
01:59:36.760 --> 01:59:41.760
Miss pac Man machine was living,
more usable for things other than playing Miss

1768
01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:45.359
pac Man. It's still great for
playing Miss pac Man. In what is

1769
01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:48.479
to confirm, h well, had
I had well? I also had a

1770
01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:51.920
desk to keep your keys on or
something that I had furniture in another room

1771
01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:56.159
that had just been piling up.
The thing about having a house, uh

1772
01:59:56.600 --> 01:59:59.479
rooms, is that you then have
rooms. So instead of like when you're

1773
01:59:59.479 --> 02:00:01.319
an apartment and it's just like we
can't have this thing, we don't have

1774
02:00:01.479 --> 02:00:04.079
room for it, don't get it, or we have to get rid of

1775
02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:08.119
the other thing to replace with this
thing. He could just be like,

1776
02:00:08.319 --> 02:00:10.119
yeah, I bring in the new
thing, old thing, I just throw

1777
02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:12.199
in the garage. I'll take care
of it later. Or I'd put in

1778
02:00:12.279 --> 02:00:15.159
this other room. I'm not doing
anything in there, and shit piles up.

1779
02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:17.840
I've only been there a couple of
years and shit piles up. Yeah,

1780
02:00:17.880 --> 02:00:20.680
don't let that, don't let that
get out of a hand. I'm

1781
02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:24.439
I'm trying. That's what this weekend
was kind of about was was kind of

1782
02:00:24.479 --> 02:00:27.239
trying to get out in front of
that sum uh because you put a pac

1783
02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:30.880
Man machine next to it. Done, that's right, I want to put

1784
02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:34.319
it, have to put yeah,
exactly. Un I had like a half

1785
02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:38.840
a couch that was sitting in another
room. It was like a sectional.

1786
02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:43.239
Okay, chain saw this couch and
half it just had this half a couch,

1787
02:00:44.319 --> 02:00:46.760
I said, the front half.
Yeah, it was seven down the

1788
02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:53.640
side. Yeah. I got off
to a real bad start when I moved

1789
02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:56.920
into my place because I didn't have
a couch at all. Yeah, and

1790
02:00:57.359 --> 02:00:59.399
I was in the process of getting
a couch. I was like, okay,

1791
02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:00.439
we need to go out and sit
on some couches and and get a

1792
02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:06.239
couch. In the meantime, my
two idiot roommates decided, as they were

1793
02:01:06.279 --> 02:01:10.920
walking up the street and saw a
free couch, we're get this couch,

1794
02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:13.760
that shitty white catch, shitty white
couch. And now all of a sudden,

1795
02:01:13.800 --> 02:01:15.079
it's just like, here's this couch
that I don't want. There's couch

1796
02:01:15.119 --> 02:01:17.960
I don't need in your house in
my house. Great. And then I

1797
02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:21.000
went and got my real couch,
which is pretty nice couch, I think,

1798
02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:27.079
ye. And I'll tell your roommates
got on it. Yeah, yeah,

1799
02:01:27.359 --> 02:01:30.680
it's it's seemed better days. It's
hard to clean that micro virus.

1800
02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:32.920
It is, yeah, it is. What are you talking about? What

1801
02:01:33.760 --> 02:01:40.319
happened on the caches? It's not
even it's not even fabulous, it's not

1802
02:01:40.399 --> 02:01:42.880
even. Yeah, came in and
there was sex. It was just just

1803
02:01:43.039 --> 02:01:45.079
like, no, just gross dudes
being grossy, eating fucking taco bell on

1804
02:01:45.159 --> 02:01:48.199
it and not leaving for fucking twenty
four hours at a time. Yeah,

1805
02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:53.199
just like people sitting on that couch
for just mung more days straight, just

1806
02:01:53.439 --> 02:01:58.319
like watching Yeah, it has been
duded hard, but the tags are still

1807
02:01:58.359 --> 02:02:02.560
on it. What were you saying? Mung word like style, you know,

1808
02:02:02.920 --> 02:02:05.359
rocking the hat with the tagst on. It's like that my couch,

1809
02:02:05.439 --> 02:02:15.319
though, Is there is there a
nasal equivalent of onomotopia? Words that sound

1810
02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:20.000
like what they are, words that
like smell like what they Oh you're saying

1811
02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:30.600
the sound like the factory is very
mung smells bad, very evocative of what

1812
02:02:30.720 --> 02:02:34.960
it is. I think that still
counts like an old factory, sus.

1813
02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:41.399
Anyway, I found some mung in
my sink drain was a physical thing.

1814
02:02:41.560 --> 02:02:44.720
Why are you pulling the mung out. Dude. Well, so I washed

1815
02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:47.359
the mung down so it was stuck
to the edge. So it was one

1816
02:02:47.359 --> 02:02:49.319
of those things where it had the
stopper. You'll pull the thing up and

1817
02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:54.399
then there's the gets that broke.
So I yanked it out. So it's

1818
02:02:54.399 --> 02:02:57.439
just an open drain, and there
was something stuck to the side, like

1819
02:02:57.439 --> 02:03:00.159
pretty high up, and I'm looking
at going I can't even really tell what

1820
02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:02.239
this is, but it doesn't look
good. So I got something and just

1821
02:03:02.399 --> 02:03:04.640
like chipped it out of there,
and it was just black gunk. I

1822
02:03:04.680 --> 02:03:08.520
don't know. I don't know hair
from shaven or who knows. So it

1823
02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:11.039
wasn't like a little lever or something
for the stopper. No, no,

1824
02:03:11.159 --> 02:03:14.920
no, it was gunk. Oh
God, some kind of something. So

1825
02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:18.720
I chipped it all loose. Uh, And now I have a real slow

1826
02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:23.880
drain, so pore some stuff.
I gotta get some stuff to pour down

1827
02:03:23.960 --> 02:03:29.439
it. Damn it, that's what
I should have gotten. There was something

1828
02:03:29.479 --> 02:03:30.560
I needed to get. Don't go
to the sea. Don't go to the

1829
02:03:30.640 --> 02:03:33.560
CVS. You guys, don't ever
go to the CVS. It's like the

1830
02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:39.319
because any time that you go to
the CVS, it will always seem weirdly

1831
02:03:39.399 --> 02:03:42.279
empty, but the line will always
take you way too long to get through.

1832
02:03:42.439 --> 02:03:45.399
I don't know what this is.
Universal truth about CVS is that two

1833
02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:50.359
check stands open, two check stands
open, and those people who were ill

1834
02:03:50.399 --> 02:03:55.920
equipped to deal with a financial transaction. That's always who was at the front

1835
02:03:55.920 --> 02:03:58.560
of the line at the CVS.
Also, it's never someone who's like on

1836
02:03:58.640 --> 02:04:00.800
top of their ship. Yeah,
they're always out of fucking starts on both

1837
02:04:00.840 --> 02:04:04.359
sides of the register. Yeah,
totally. So I was trying to buy

1838
02:04:04.439 --> 02:04:08.119
some checks mix and it took four
ups and now we're gonna get a budget

1839
02:04:08.119 --> 02:04:11.560
emails from dudes who work at the
CVS. Step it up, you guys,

1840
02:04:11.680 --> 02:04:14.279
come on telling you how why it
is. Maybe it'll explain. Yeah.

1841
02:04:14.439 --> 02:04:16.680
I will say this though, that
I find their their pharmacy people to

1842
02:04:16.760 --> 02:04:20.800
be friendly and ineligible, so keep
that part of their checks mix people were

1843
02:04:20.960 --> 02:04:26.399
not Yeah, no, the checks
mix Steward not great. I had to

1844
02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:29.319
buy some bitch makes some of the
air the ambassador. I had to buy

1845
02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:30.760
some band aids, so I cut
my finger and then while I was there,

1846
02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:32.640
I was like, oh, I'm
gonna buy I'm gonna fill out my

1847
02:04:32.800 --> 02:04:36.800
like first aid medicine cabinet. So
wind up with like an armful of like

1848
02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:42.479
gauze bandages and pads and sanitary this, and just going your bug out bag.

1849
02:04:42.520 --> 02:04:45.000
What do you yeah half of it? You know, you never know.

1850
02:04:45.159 --> 02:04:47.479
Yeah, So he doesn't like people
knowing about his bug out bag.

1851
02:04:47.600 --> 02:04:49.479
Well, if they know, they
they're gonna come get it, know that

1852
02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:54.640
they're gonna find him. It does
definitely doesn't say survival bag and big yellow

1853
02:04:54.720 --> 02:05:00.119
letters tape over that. So anyway, roll up to the counter U and

1854
02:05:00.920 --> 02:05:05.239
just dump like gauze bandages and stuff
on the counter, like I had just

1855
02:05:05.439 --> 02:05:11.159
robbed a bank and she was holding
a bullet wound in and then mouthwash and

1856
02:05:11.199 --> 02:05:14.680
they didn't blink an eye like it
wasn't like did you hurt yourself or you

1857
02:05:14.760 --> 02:05:16.680
know, like this is every scene. Well here me, I see what

1858
02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:19.560
Like the terminator has to walk in
there because you know they're about to take

1859
02:05:19.600 --> 02:05:24.720
a eyeball out. That's what you
do. And but the reality of the

1860
02:05:24.800 --> 02:05:28.880
situation is that the person at the
counter at the CVS doesn't want to hear

1861
02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:32.960
Yeah, and it's it's seemed way
worse. Yeah, exactly, they've seen

1862
02:05:33.039 --> 02:05:36.359
that situation except with someone who actually
has an open, flowing, bad wound.

1863
02:05:36.399 --> 02:05:40.119
You don't want these these are for
light drainage, and is trying to

1864
02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:42.479
heavy food stand. Yeah, it
was just like puss coming out of their

1865
02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:45.560
face. It's like a weird You're
not gonna be able to use this round

1866
02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:46.680
fluid. I don't know. Here's
the thing. They're not doctors. They're

1867
02:05:46.680 --> 02:05:50.239
CVS checkers. I bet they know
a lot, but they can't give you

1868
02:05:50.319 --> 02:05:54.079
medical advice. They can't say this
is not the thing you want. I

1869
02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:56.960
would like that. I would like
to know if I ever got if I

1870
02:05:57.079 --> 02:06:00.560
robbed a bank and got shot and
we're buying the wrong thing. The movie

1871
02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:02.520
was gonna end poorly in about twenty
minutes. They would make it go at

1872
02:06:02.600 --> 02:06:05.399
least one more act. No,
because if they got it wrong then you'd

1873
02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:08.680
come back and see them. It's
a bit. That's a sequel. Yeah,

1874
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:11.319
it's a better movie. Shoot that
person in the space. Yeah,

1875
02:06:11.359 --> 02:06:14.880
it's a head person into the sun. Who would you like to see shot

1876
02:06:14.960 --> 02:06:19.000
into space? Give us a call
I don't love. If you give a

1877
02:06:19.039 --> 02:06:26.000
political donation to Jeff's platform, then
you get to vote to choose exactly part

1878
02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:30.640
of the chosen ones get to decide
I also Founder's circle, we call it.

1879
02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:33.720
So I got I got a great, uh fucking piece of furniture from

1880
02:06:34.399 --> 02:06:40.079
for my girlfriend's grandma. That's the
other half of the couch that's supposed to

1881
02:06:40.119 --> 02:06:42.880
be a bar. It's got a
little like leaves that fold out on the

1882
02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:45.800
top. It's got some cool sixties
like would work in the front, and

1883
02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:47.279
I'm using that as a TV stand. So I was able to get my

1884
02:06:47.640 --> 02:06:51.760
my nest and my CDX hooked back
up. So I played a little bit

1885
02:06:51.920 --> 02:06:58.359
of Tangent Tetris. Nice. Uh, it's cool. Girlfriend is behind me

1886
02:06:58.439 --> 02:07:03.560
playing Miss pac Man and just up
a storm, just really just she no,

1887
02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:08.479
not Miss pac Man. Wasn't where
my girlfriend was? What ROMs you

1888
02:07:08.560 --> 02:07:13.840
got fast Rom's curse ROMs? Nothing? Just great standard vanilla Miss pac Man.

1889
02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:18.399
That that woman I've I've seen.
I've watched a lot of people play

1890
02:07:18.479 --> 02:07:21.960
games. I've never seen anyone react
as violent like I have to take her

1891
02:07:23.000 --> 02:07:26.319
off the machine sometimes I have a
second. You can't play anymore, Miss

1892
02:07:26.359 --> 02:07:30.399
pac Man, because it's it's fucking
you up, so you let the communists

1893
02:07:30.399 --> 02:07:32.239
win. You're getting you're getting too
upset at this machine. So she's behind

1894
02:07:32.279 --> 02:07:35.399
me playing this pact man, and
I'm playing a tangent Tetris which does not

1895
02:07:35.560 --> 02:07:40.840
have like classic Tetris music. It
has its own set of crazy but still

1896
02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:45.760
like really good music on it.
So just all of this crazy music,

1897
02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:47.720
all this crazy old video game music
blaring in the room all at once.

1898
02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:50.920
Probably a little uh game. You
may have heard of it, Mike Tysons

1899
02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:55.439
punch Out. No, what is
that? Fucking Mike Tysons punch Out is

1900
02:07:55.560 --> 02:07:58.880
great for as for as simple as
it is for as like kind of nothing

1901
02:07:58.920 --> 02:08:01.279
as there is to the the gameplay. Like, looking at that game,

1902
02:08:01.399 --> 02:08:07.479
I am still extremely impressed at the
quality of the character work and the animations

1903
02:08:07.479 --> 02:08:09.920
that they I mean, I realize
again that there's kind of nothing else to

1904
02:08:11.079 --> 02:08:13.560
that game, but it's really got
like there's you look at games of that

1905
02:08:13.640 --> 02:08:18.920
era, there's just nothing else that
looks quite likely that thing to the utmost,

1906
02:08:20.119 --> 02:08:22.199
it really does. It's it's damned
impressive. You know you should do

1907
02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:28.359
to enhance your your game room kind
of experience. Is there's a you can

1908
02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:31.560
download it online. It's there's like
Arcade Ambiance files that like dudes have put

1909
02:08:31.600 --> 02:08:37.279
together MP three'es of like specific eras
see eighty one eighty three? Can I

1910
02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:41.079
get it on tape? You know, you could probably copy because because there's

1911
02:08:41.119 --> 02:08:43.319
only a tape player in that room, it's just just download it. It's

1912
02:08:43.359 --> 02:08:46.600
like it's like ninety minutes because I
don't want to like stuff repeating, right,

1913
02:08:46.760 --> 02:08:50.279
yeah, three minutes and you can
just you can just kind of loop

1914
02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:54.159
some of that I was just playing, and then put the Enterprise Engine noise

1915
02:08:54.479 --> 02:08:58.560
along with that, and then it's
like having an arcade on the Holidack.

1916
02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:01.560
Right man, did you still get
that noise on the Holottack? Imagine I'd

1917
02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:07.560
be real fucking well sure, but
then you have to But here's the question.

1918
02:09:07.680 --> 02:09:11.399
If you want it, is it
the actual ambient? No, the

1919
02:09:11.439 --> 02:09:18.000
holiday just loads up that YouTube video? Is it then simulated for the sake

1920
02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:22.039
of the Holidack holidics sound proved.
It's a good question. Well, I

1921
02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:24.039
mean, you didn't hear it in
Sherwood Forest fair enough. So we need

1922
02:09:24.079 --> 02:09:28.800
to science fiction that is based on
what has already happened. Is there there

1923
02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:33.479
is there any of that that takes
into account like where the Internet actually went,

1924
02:09:33.920 --> 02:09:37.199
and and yeah, it's crazy stuff
like the YouTube's and there's the way

1925
02:09:37.880 --> 02:09:41.239
as crazy as the tubes of the
world, the amazons of the world,

1926
02:09:41.319 --> 02:09:43.399
like the way she has already gone
kind of crazy, Like there is there

1927
02:09:43.439 --> 02:09:46.479
any science fiction written this informed it's
too depressing to read? Oh yeah,

1928
02:09:46.479 --> 02:09:48.640
oh yeah, yeah, I guess
it's like, I don't know, Mi

1929
02:09:48.680 --> 02:09:54.920
Alority Report seems just aside from the
whole crazy precognition stuff, seems reasonably plausible.

1930
02:09:56.079 --> 02:10:00.520
Is that super sad true love story? Just because you say they're like,

1931
02:10:00.560 --> 02:10:03.319
oh yeah, oh no, well, I think I think you can

1932
02:10:03.319 --> 02:10:05.720
already kind of see it going bad
now. Yeah, yeah, well,

1933
02:10:05.720 --> 02:10:09.159
I think that's it's also hard to
do that stuff right now because you're still

1934
02:10:09.159 --> 02:10:13.199
in the thick of it for it
to not just immediately seem horridly dated.

1935
02:10:13.319 --> 02:10:18.399
Sure, I think that that can
be tough with with sci fi. All

1936
02:10:18.439 --> 02:10:26.359
right, let's take it to Newsky
Patrick yep, So, uh Sundance Right,

1937
02:10:26.600 --> 02:10:33.239
Sundance film festival that took place last
last week. Uh. Front of

1938
02:10:33.239 --> 02:10:37.399
the Sight. Phil Fish was featured
in indie Game of the Movie, which

1939
02:10:37.439 --> 02:10:41.119
showed at Sundance. They won an
editing award, won an editing award.

1940
02:10:41.159 --> 02:10:45.119
Congratulations to those people, Brad,
you and I are in it for a

1941
02:10:45.159 --> 02:10:48.880
second. Oh hey, you know
where a part where the truer boy stuff.

1942
02:10:48.920 --> 02:10:52.520
I think Lemon Lemon is also in
it. They're watching that's part of

1943
02:10:52.560 --> 02:10:58.359
a lens of you playing uh,
super meat Boy. I'm not sure how

1944
02:10:58.439 --> 02:11:01.880
I'm in it because I'm not in
that video. So people were saying,

1945
02:11:03.039 --> 02:11:07.600
no, I don't think I'm there
that people were saying that anyway, as

1946
02:11:07.680 --> 02:11:11.199
part of this there was maybe you
could sort out what this all actually means,

1947
02:11:11.239 --> 02:11:16.560
because there was word that basically this
this movie had been optioned or was

1948
02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:20.000
going to be turned into an HBO
series, and then there was backlash because

1949
02:11:20.000 --> 02:11:24.159
everyone thought that HBO series was going
to turn into like a multi camera by

1950
02:11:24.399 --> 02:11:28.279
Yeah, uh it's Scott Rudin,
who's the I think that's the producer's name,

1951
02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:31.279
who's the producer of the Social Network
and a bunch of other dude just

1952
02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:35.119
gotten nominated for an Oscar. Really
a lot of the basically the guy has

1953
02:11:35.479 --> 02:11:37.359
attached to one of the best.
Yeah, he's you know, like on

1954
02:11:37.439 --> 02:11:41.359
par with like like a Frank Marshall, which has like in a absolutely like

1955
02:11:41.600 --> 02:11:45.680
exquisite track record. As a as
a producer option to the remake rights to

1956
02:11:45.880 --> 02:11:50.079
Indian the movie to turn it into
a TV series an HBO and it was

1957
02:11:50.159 --> 02:11:52.600
label the comedy, which is where
everyone kind of flipped out and Phil Fish

1958
02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:58.920
had uh what one might call a
tantrum on Twitter. I imagine Phil Fish

1959
02:11:58.920 --> 02:12:03.880
would probably call it is he is
pretty since apologized. And the fear was

1960
02:12:03.960 --> 02:12:09.000
it was the word comedy, and
everyone's everyone thinks how geek culture is portrayed

1961
02:12:09.159 --> 02:12:13.760
in mainstream culture. Just immediately think
about Grandma's Boy and just going yeah,

1962
02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:18.239
oh god no. But as it
turns out, the way HBO just categorizes

1963
02:12:18.319 --> 02:12:22.560
things is just that they have like
a drama department and everything else is in

1964
02:12:22.680 --> 02:12:28.479
the comedy department. Comedy department was
actually like the thirty minute department. Yes

1965
02:12:28.840 --> 02:12:31.520
if it's if it's less than an
hour long show. So it's just the

1966
02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:35.000
way they internalize things. So when
Deadline broke it, while they just the

1967
02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:39.039
filmmakers just coincidentally we're in a sundance
screening, we're unable to do damage control

1968
02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:43.920
because they thought the story was going
to come out later and then Deadline published

1969
02:12:43.920 --> 02:12:46.840
it had as a as a scoop. Everyone just kind of flipped out,

1970
02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:50.199
and I think, yeah, it
probably too much of a flipout. Even

1971
02:12:50.279 --> 02:12:54.279
I was a little peeved, but
it's you know, you worry like it

1972
02:12:54.319 --> 02:12:58.000
seems like this really good thing all
of a sudden. I just think people

1973
02:12:58.039 --> 02:13:00.760
need to be prepared anyway, because
any sort of dramasation is going to have

1974
02:13:00.840 --> 02:13:07.079
to take significant liberties with what the
truth, what actually happened was for for

1975
02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:11.560
drama's sake. Yeah, I wonder
thinking about that. I was chatting with

1976
02:13:11.960 --> 02:13:16.880
Ryan o'donald about have you seen showing
at Sundance There will be screening at g

1977
02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:24.319
DC and they're doing a screening down
in Santa Cruz with Team Meet on March

1978
02:13:24.680 --> 02:13:26.239
second. I think it's the tickets
just went on sale today. Uh,

1979
02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:31.880
it's about how you even like the
weird thing about like a television show,

1980
02:13:31.279 --> 02:13:35.920
comedy or drama about game developments,
like how do you portray the games?

1981
02:13:37.439 --> 02:13:39.640
Right? Like because are you making
fake games? Are you not showing the

1982
02:13:39.720 --> 02:13:43.359
games? And when Ryan and I
were talking about it, the I don't

1983
02:13:43.399 --> 02:13:50.279
see how you do it except to
actually build those games and then release them

1984
02:13:50.439 --> 02:13:52.600
at the end of the season or
something like, or like prototypes like I

1985
02:13:52.920 --> 02:13:56.720
don't have people working on something so
it looks plausible like that's always the thing

1986
02:13:56.800 --> 02:14:01.159
is Yeah, all that video games
is represented on television always looks so fake

1987
02:14:01.199 --> 02:14:05.199
and ridiculous in the pac Man for
the twenty six hundred Noises. Yeah yeah,

1988
02:14:05.399 --> 02:14:09.840
which the Tim and Eric movie does
to great effect. Good for them.

1989
02:14:09.119 --> 02:14:15.399
Well, like in The Wrestler,
Darren Aronofsky got like there's a wrestling

1990
02:14:15.840 --> 02:14:20.000
game built in that they actually built
out that game and has that's a playable

1991
02:14:20.039 --> 02:14:22.199
game that was never released, but
you could see how you could do something

1992
02:14:22.319 --> 02:14:26.159
like that with this where it's like
the television show parallels and then you you

1993
02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:30.640
could release parts of the game for
pre Blelue experience. And I just that

1994
02:14:30.680 --> 02:14:33.520
part seems a really weird and hard. That's probably the hardest parts portray.

1995
02:14:33.560 --> 02:14:35.800
I don't know if that's just because
I know how games are made, right,

1996
02:14:35.920 --> 02:14:41.199
So I guess that not maybe people
that don't know how games, but

1997
02:14:41.720 --> 02:14:43.159
it's but it's, you know,
it's the indie game side of it,

1998
02:14:43.279 --> 02:14:48.000
which I think gives them more license
because it seems like there are a million

1999
02:14:48.039 --> 02:14:52.079
different ways that people approach that stuff, Like it's like that process has been

2000
02:14:52.119 --> 02:14:56.359
way more codified on the professional end. But that doesn't sound like what these

2001
02:14:56.399 --> 02:15:00.640
guys have bought. Yeah, So
Scott Rutten as a great track record.

2002
02:15:00.720 --> 02:15:03.079
So it'll probably based on what I've
read, it'll go to pilot. It

2003
02:15:03.119 --> 02:15:07.840
won't be just because Scott Rudden is
doing it that he like has that cloud.

2004
02:15:09.039 --> 02:15:11.079
But yeah, that indigame. The
movie got a ton of brad Bird

2005
02:15:11.159 --> 02:15:13.840
was raving about it on Twitter.
I saw that that was I said it

2006
02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:16.960
was his favorite thing. He saw
it Sundance that day that day. Sure

2007
02:15:16.720 --> 02:15:20.439
that's a significant qualifier because that it's
on the tail the next day saying this

2008
02:15:20.600 --> 02:15:24.479
movie was fucking amazing. Still yeah, no, no, no for to

2009
02:15:24.520 --> 02:15:28.079
to get any sort of prospect because
yeah, he's alright, said that he

2010
02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:33.720
doesn't really understand video games, so
which is too bad. Let's playing video

2011
02:15:33.760 --> 02:15:37.399
games, brad Bird. So this
this Neo Geo handheld, you gotta talked

2012
02:15:37.399 --> 02:15:41.760
about it last week. It's not
real. NCS says it's fake. They

2013
02:15:41.800 --> 02:15:48.279
put up an image that just said
hoax. Yeah, thanks for the details,

2014
02:15:48.439 --> 02:15:52.840
right, that's yeah. They haven't
said anything besides that. Yeah,

2015
02:15:52.960 --> 02:16:00.720
that's not useful. Who knows that
thing? Sure as hell looks not real

2016
02:16:01.000 --> 02:16:05.680
like a bootleg e China, Right, MP four looks like an MP four.

2017
02:16:05.800 --> 02:16:07.640
It looks like that. You could
play diffix videos and it has these

2018
02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:11.680
built in emulator ROMs. It looks
like a boot like iPod that I bought

2019
02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:16.039
off eBay. Ties. Should find
that thing? Tie was even bootleg?

2020
02:16:16.560 --> 02:16:20.479
Yeah you bootle and bootleg iPod.
I just took that tie. It's with

2021
02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:24.720
the good will like two months ago. Slap the iPod, idiot, Well

2022
02:16:24.760 --> 02:16:28.199
what it's not an iPod? What
is it? What's it called? Actually

2023
02:16:28.239 --> 02:16:33.799
have a got my money back?
I initiated some of my money. I

2024
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:37.920
initiated the return process and then forgot
about god fucking PayPal. Yeah, so

2025
02:16:37.159 --> 02:16:43.200
your your silk tie bootleg iPod nightmare
is what I thought of when I first

2026
02:16:43.239 --> 02:16:46.799
saw that thing because I had the
original eighties color Apple logo on it.

2027
02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:52.479
Yeahmember that I did. I gotta
find that thing. But it actually functions.

2028
02:16:54.600 --> 02:17:01.719
It wasn't eight gig m P three
players, right? Is that was?

2029
02:17:01.440 --> 02:17:05.559
It's in my house. I should
find it. I'd like to see

2030
02:17:05.559 --> 02:17:09.040
you play an MP three on it, all right. I just remember even

2031
02:17:09.120 --> 02:17:11.600
trying to like load it up or
like get it to not crash. We

2032
02:17:11.639 --> 02:17:15.719
should get will norm to review.
It's a fee and task whatever. We're

2033
02:17:15.719 --> 02:17:18.239
better than it. I be.
It's pretty good. Yes, I think

2034
02:17:18.239 --> 02:17:24.000
I could assure you it might have. It might have. It might have

2035
02:17:24.040 --> 02:17:26.799
been weird enough that it's like and
native support for og vorbis files. Of

2036
02:17:26.959 --> 02:17:33.200
course, Fuck you China. I
don't believe in karma. But that's iPod

2037
02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:37.600
nano recall that's ongoing. They have
run out of the old nano to replace

2038
02:17:37.680 --> 02:17:39.959
it with, so now they send
you the newest nano for free. One

2039
02:17:39.959 --> 02:17:43.639
of those old n Yes, I
have, I have, I have a

2040
02:17:43.680 --> 02:17:48.239
recall eligible nano. Which ones are
the original? It's the very first nano

2041
02:17:48.319 --> 02:17:50.639
with the silver back, totally have. It's even even then, it's only

2042
02:17:50.680 --> 02:17:52.600
a subset. You have to put
your serial number in. It was like

2043
02:17:52.639 --> 02:17:58.000
the battery expoding. It's a bad
battery chemical issue. I should look into

2044
02:17:58.000 --> 02:18:00.719
that because I've totally got one of
those, so if less bad. No,

2045
02:18:01.559 --> 02:18:03.440
not that, not that I need
a fucking iPod nano. But you

2046
02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:07.360
can wear like a watch you get, you can you can you can make

2047
02:18:07.520 --> 02:18:09.799
or you can buy wristbands made specifically. Turn that thing into and then you

2048
02:18:09.879 --> 02:18:13.920
can make it your watch, make
it look like whatever watch face you want.

2049
02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:18.479
You're giving washing to the sun,
my friend. Keep going to anybody

2050
02:18:18.559 --> 02:18:24.200
that puts an eyepen it's a nice
watch. I just step into my murder.

2051
02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:28.479
Well, first get out of the
space trampoline and it'll be a good

2052
02:18:28.479 --> 02:18:35.000
time for everybody. And then follow
the signs marked murder sling shot. The

2053
02:18:35.040 --> 02:18:39.200
signs might say m period sling shot. Just go on that. Probably want

2054
02:18:39.239 --> 02:18:41.200
to load it in a lot of
songs. And you imagine if they put

2055
02:18:41.200 --> 02:18:45.239
a camera on that thing and it
turns into like the Dick Dick Tracy thing.

2056
02:18:45.559 --> 02:18:48.200
Yeah, I think you're gonna say
the Dick Cheney thing would have been

2057
02:18:48.799 --> 02:18:52.239
slightly different, but only slightly.
I think that sounds super cool until you

2058
02:18:52.280 --> 02:18:56.239
actually do it, and then I
know I've seen it in action. It's

2059
02:18:56.239 --> 02:19:00.879
like, wait, I still need
headphones that plug into it? The headphones

2060
02:19:01.440 --> 02:19:07.319
to your wrist. Yeah, that
that's the part where you're like this you

2061
02:19:07.479 --> 02:19:11.360
once you have headphones that are like
literally just plugged into your wrist. That's

2062
02:19:11.360 --> 02:19:13.600
because if you can get away with
it just being like we that's some kind

2063
02:19:13.600 --> 02:19:16.360
of weird accessory that looks really dopey. And then oh, you're listening to

2064
02:19:16.559 --> 02:19:20.239
music out of your because it doesn't
it doesn't have so is it so like

2065
02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:24.000
so like above the elbow. Then
that's okay, yeah, the headphones.

2066
02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:28.719
Do you put the step the workout
strap on your forearm? That's okay?

2067
02:19:28.520 --> 02:19:33.760
Like where like where's the cutoff point
for where it's? Okay? Elbow?

2068
02:19:33.879 --> 02:19:37.319
So above the elbow? I can. I can strap my fucking iPod to

2069
02:19:37.399 --> 02:19:41.319
my body. You could and plug
it headphones into it and it won't be

2070
02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:43.360
launched into the sun. No,
maybe the moon, but yes, you

2071
02:19:43.719 --> 02:19:46.799
could do that. Where do you
put your your iPod when you run?

2072
02:19:48.639 --> 02:19:52.200
I don't know. On the treadmill? Okay, yeah, I put mine.

2073
02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:56.920
I put mine on my see Patrick's
run outside, and like I can't

2074
02:19:56.959 --> 02:20:01.680
put in my pocket because it'll bound
out and has which is why I started

2075
02:20:01.719 --> 02:20:05.079
stress. Can plug headphones in your
wrists? It doesn't worry you came with

2076
02:20:05.159 --> 02:20:09.719
your arms. It's not I'm saying. It's a cable. Run the cable

2077
02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:18.319
up the length of your your sleeve
and if you're wearing that, yeah,

2078
02:20:18.600 --> 02:20:22.000
okay, if you're wearing long sleeves, or if you've gaff taped the cable

2079
02:20:22.079 --> 02:20:26.600
to your arms, kids have you're
right gaff tape. That's gonna make me

2080
02:20:26.639 --> 02:20:30.840
a lot cooler that that will negate
the issues of iPod on my wrist.

2081
02:20:31.879 --> 02:20:37.319
No, I won't get your Your
logic sucks not saying that putting gaff tape.

2082
02:20:37.399 --> 02:20:39.000
We all know that someday gaff tape's
gonna keep us all a lot.

2083
02:20:39.280 --> 02:20:45.040
This might be how it probably already
has. It's probably been near death scenarios.

2084
02:20:45.079 --> 02:20:48.360
I wasn't even aware of that man
good thing gaff tables holding those batteries,

2085
02:20:48.440 --> 02:20:54.760
and we'd all be fucked. It's
not when I'm stoked now I might

2086
02:20:54.799 --> 02:20:58.440
be eligible for free iPod I had
no idea. Yeah, it's exciting that

2087
02:20:58.479 --> 02:21:01.040
one's been sitting in battery dead and
draw off way too long, getting long

2088
02:21:01.120 --> 02:21:05.600
sleeve shirt. You're using that like
last year, leaking or exploding. I

2089
02:21:05.600 --> 02:21:09.799
don't know what the issue is.
Honestly, I cannot confirm whether mine has

2090
02:21:09.840 --> 02:21:13.280
exploded, but you're word that it
might. That's all that matters now that

2091
02:21:13.360 --> 02:21:18.280
I know. Now, I know
this just panic and fear running through at

2092
02:21:18.280 --> 02:21:26.159
all times. Right now, I
just sweating a pull it together, pull

2093
02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:33.440
it together. I have no no
stress. Yeah, it's gone with Zinga.

2094
02:21:33.319 --> 02:21:37.559
They're ripping people's games off and people
are upset about it. Everybody's ribbing.

2095
02:21:37.559 --> 02:21:41.680
Everybody was Yeah, there was another
game today that get so The first

2096
02:21:41.799 --> 02:21:46.600
first one was Tiny Tower. Tiny
Tower put out a if you're gonna explain

2097
02:21:46.719 --> 02:21:50.040
how your game is, like this
is they did the best possible way to

2098
02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:52.440
explain if how your game is a
rip offs. They just put out a

2099
02:21:52.200 --> 02:21:56.840
jpeg that was just long image.
It was just like here the dry comparisons

2100
02:21:56.879 --> 02:22:01.719
of what Yeah, yeah, very
aggressive. Yeah, it's Tiny Tower.

2101
02:22:01.719 --> 02:22:03.079
It was made by nimble Bit.
It was which is like three dudes,

2102
02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:07.079
three dudes. It was the iPhone
game of the year, so this was

2103
02:22:07.159 --> 02:22:09.159
really popular. It was extremely popular. Yeah yeah, Apple Night Yeah,

2104
02:22:11.120 --> 02:22:13.399
and apparently made them a decent chunk
of change. And it's also well respected

2105
02:22:13.440 --> 02:22:18.479
because even though it uses a lot
of the same sort of like addiction mechanics

2106
02:22:18.520 --> 02:22:22.959
of like a lot of Facebook and
social games, it doesn't require to like

2107
02:22:22.319 --> 02:22:26.200
put in money and things like that, Like you can play the game proper

2108
02:22:26.920 --> 02:22:30.000
without having to sort of like go
down that that weird road. Yes,

2109
02:22:30.079 --> 02:22:33.399
they put out an image thing that
your Facebook. The dream Heights, I

2110
02:22:33.440 --> 02:22:37.760
think is the one is what Facebook's
is called. Yeah, like congratulations,

2111
02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:43.040
and it's like the thing is it's
not you know, the sort of idea

2112
02:22:43.159 --> 02:22:46.200
like running this hotel or tower is
not new like that was in sim Tower,

2113
02:22:46.319 --> 02:22:50.520
and uh, I guess that was
up Tower. I've got you Tower

2114
02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:54.879
on this iPad right now. But
but it's it's very specific mechanics or like

2115
02:22:56.360 --> 02:23:00.600
upgrade paths or amount of credits needed
to do certain upgrades that it's like just

2116
02:23:00.680 --> 02:23:03.879
the design of just like how the
floors are presenting. Yeah, interface stuff

2117
02:23:03.959 --> 02:23:07.920
and and I mean, I guess
it's what I've seen of this. I've

2118
02:23:09.040 --> 02:23:11.120
never played Time Tower, and I
have no interest in playing right dream sweet

2119
02:23:11.680 --> 02:23:16.000
Uh this does seem like very direct. Yeah, but I but I believe

2120
02:23:16.280 --> 02:23:20.920
that there is a fairly fine line. I think there's a finer line than

2121
02:23:20.000 --> 02:23:28.719
most people realize between the like the
homage, the inspiration and the outright theft

2122
02:23:28.079 --> 02:23:31.639
and iteration, you know, like
the video games are inherently, just like

2123
02:23:31.920 --> 02:23:35.120
a lot of other mediums, built
on building upon what other people and if

2124
02:23:35.159 --> 02:23:37.959
someone else had a good idea,
it's like that was a good idea.

2125
02:23:37.079 --> 02:23:39.840
Let's incorporate that ship and it will
make our game better. Like that active

2126
02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:43.159
active reloading went on too appear another
game that happens a lot of cover systems.

2127
02:23:43.239 --> 02:23:46.959
Yeah, cover systems, you know, perks, you know, all

2128
02:23:46.040 --> 02:23:50.399
that kind of stuff. Rhythm Games. Yes, Harmons copying their own game.

2129
02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:56.840
Yeah, after copying Kanami's game,
right, But yeah, that's that's

2130
02:23:56.879 --> 02:24:00.920
it's the rabbit hole of that is. It's ly because you know, you

2131
02:24:01.000 --> 02:24:03.840
look at what's happening and like the
technistry with like patents and basically like the

2132
02:24:03.879 --> 02:24:09.840
companies just buying up dyeing companies to
have their patents so that they can sub

2133
02:24:09.920 --> 02:24:13.360
license these two other companies even necessarily
make something, but just to hog tie

2134
02:24:13.399 --> 02:24:16.479
anyone else. Yeah, so you
look at that and like if you know,

2135
02:24:16.760 --> 02:24:20.120
creative works get tied up and all
that stuff, that's that goes down

2136
02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:22.479
to a real dark road. And
and I know that, like Jeff was

2137
02:24:22.479 --> 02:24:24.840
pointing out all the weird stuff,
like what was like Miss pac Man was

2138
02:24:24.879 --> 02:24:28.280
originally well yeah, there's that stuff, but then then I mean was it

2139
02:24:28.360 --> 02:24:31.239
Casey Munchkin? Like Munchkin? There's
the lawsuit about that stuff. I mean,

2140
02:24:31.319 --> 02:24:35.959
you can go back through all the
video gaming, yeah, exactly,

2141
02:24:35.040 --> 02:24:41.239
like the Great Gianna Sisters basically being
like a Super Mario rip off and becoming

2142
02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:46.079
so popular in Europe that a lot
of people saw that before they saw Super

2143
02:24:46.079 --> 02:24:48.639
Mario Brothers. So when Super Mario
Brothers came along, They're like, what

2144
02:24:48.719 --> 02:24:52.879
does this knockoff of Great Town,
which which made you know, Nintendo's suit

2145
02:24:54.040 --> 02:24:58.319
pretty reasonable. Yeah, these guys
are fusion in the marketplace, that's what

2146
02:24:58.399 --> 02:25:03.239
they call that. And and in
arcades, you had a lot of situations

2147
02:25:03.280 --> 02:25:07.280
where people were producing clone versions of
existing games. And some of that was

2148
02:25:07.319 --> 02:25:11.719
just outright theft and but and sort
of a different thing. But you ended

2149
02:25:11.799 --> 02:25:15.319
up in cases where they were like
bootlegging Donkey Kong ROMs and hacking it to

2150
02:25:15.360 --> 02:25:18.639
stay Crazy Kong and putting it out, and you'd have people that only knew

2151
02:25:18.639 --> 02:25:20.479
it by Crazy Kong because that just
happened to be the machine their arcade had.

2152
02:25:22.239 --> 02:25:26.000
You had games, you know,
uh, people just like producing their

2153
02:25:26.040 --> 02:25:28.760
own versions of games that didn't legally
exist on a platform. You know,

2154
02:25:28.920 --> 02:25:31.360
just like someone going like well,
you know, changing Bitch, yeah or

2155
02:25:31.600 --> 02:25:35.079
yeah like that. Or you know, there's probably like one hundred different versions

2156
02:25:35.079 --> 02:25:39.159
of pac Man for the Spectrum or
something like that that was just getting made

2157
02:25:39.200 --> 02:25:43.319
by different people or you know,
all of them unofficial. That's maybe I'm

2158
02:25:43.360 --> 02:25:48.600
exaggerating a bit there, but you
get the basic idea is that that's sort

2159
02:25:48.639 --> 02:25:56.559
of like Jeff Minter like his whole
early career was was taking taking existing games,

2160
02:25:56.760 --> 02:26:01.639
taking Empire Strikes back for the twenty
six hundred, replacing the ad Ass

2161
02:26:01.680 --> 02:26:05.360
with Lamas and going to here you
go, or taking Robotron and replacing it

2162
02:26:05.399 --> 02:26:09.840
with Llamas and saying, Okay,
here you go. Uh yeah, it's

2163
02:26:09.879 --> 02:26:11.879
a really weird like I just don't
know where you draw the line on that.

2164
02:26:11.079 --> 02:26:16.280
But that was also a much more
wild West time. It was in

2165
02:26:16.360 --> 02:26:20.280
the industry. The groups that we're
doing this were like a jeff mentor like

2166
02:26:20.399 --> 02:26:22.760
GCC, the guys who originally were
working on Miss pac Man. It was

2167
02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:26.440
like two dudes, was like a
couple of a couple of dudes. I

2168
02:26:26.559 --> 02:26:33.239
think that I think more than I
think that that the the theft thing and

2169
02:26:33.479 --> 02:26:37.799
the severity of the theft in the
situation is giving people a good catalyst.

2170
02:26:37.559 --> 02:26:41.280
But I think every everyone is lining
up to want to nail Zinga to the

2171
02:26:41.319 --> 02:26:46.639
walls over anything. That is the
core of the story for most people is

2172
02:26:46.959 --> 02:26:52.159
the visceral satisfaction of seeing Zinga,
the big, seemingly unscrupulous company, getting

2173
02:26:52.200 --> 02:26:56.840
ricked over the coals for this,
which which which I appreciate and it's fine,

2174
02:26:56.879 --> 02:26:58.479
and I don't mind, you know, seeing them get their licks for

2175
02:26:58.520 --> 02:27:01.760
this, because it does seem pretty
pretty gross, pretty egregious. But I

2176
02:27:01.840 --> 02:27:07.000
just I hope people are able to
separate those concepts in their minds. Yeah,

2177
02:27:07.200 --> 02:27:11.040
because otherwise it you know, that's
that's troublesome potentially. Yeah, when

2178
02:27:11.040 --> 02:27:13.799
you can start, Yeah, when
you can start like pattenting or getting the

2179
02:27:13.959 --> 02:27:20.440
I mean like, doesn't Namco own
the rights to video games playable during load

2180
02:27:20.479 --> 02:27:22.639
screens? Yeah, and certain times
they don't even do that certain types of

2181
02:27:22.680 --> 02:27:28.840
fighting game training mode stuff. Yeah, well he an Internet owns the I

2182
02:27:28.840 --> 02:27:31.040
don't know if it's the pattern or
trademark or what it is for a plus

2183
02:27:31.120 --> 02:27:35.000
style deepad right, Yeah, that's
why you've never seen that on any other

2184
02:27:35.040 --> 02:27:37.959
control. Every other controller is technically
not a deep path. That's why I

2185
02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:43.159
like the PlayStation has that weird design. Icebox has the round one. If

2186
02:27:43.159 --> 02:27:46.680
you're not intended, you do not
get the cross. But Jesus, yeah,

2187
02:27:48.159 --> 02:27:50.239
but that's you know, that's why
training modes in a lot of fighting

2188
02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:54.200
games are not very good. I
guess because Namco has something that they shut

2189
02:27:54.239 --> 02:27:58.559
people out. I'm pattent so so
yeah, there's a great case where you're

2190
02:27:58.559 --> 02:28:03.399
where you're we're patenting that technology is
yeah, hindering the market. Yeah,

2191
02:28:03.559 --> 02:28:07.360
on the unless the companies work out
some sort of sub licensing agreement. But

2192
02:28:07.959 --> 02:28:13.120
uh, like you know, Harmonics
paid Konami for for and then as a

2193
02:28:13.239 --> 02:28:18.200
result of a later lawsuit, and
then Harmonics gets a taste whenever someone makes

2194
02:28:18.639 --> 02:28:22.600
that three D note path. Yeah, the highway. The highway is something

2195
02:28:22.639 --> 02:28:26.319
that they patented. So for all
the Guitar Hero games, Activision had a

2196
02:28:26.360 --> 02:28:30.520
PAM. Isn't the yell to activate
star Power? And they're patting on that

2197
02:28:30.600 --> 02:28:33.920
too. I don't know. But
basically a Harmonics is a bunch of rip

2198
02:28:33.000 --> 02:28:37.600
off artists. Screw those guys.
So we're taking out Zinga and Harmonics.

2199
02:28:37.680 --> 02:28:41.319
Yeah, it's pretty much the two
biggest names in the industry right now.

2200
02:28:41.360 --> 02:28:45.760
We're just gonna tear them down.
Well, Harmocks think is a weird case

2201
02:28:46.440 --> 02:28:50.559
since they they make a guitar Hero
and then went on to make Rock It's

2202
02:28:50.920 --> 02:28:54.959
I agree, I agree, And
I used that as as an example mostly

2203
02:28:54.040 --> 02:28:56.680
just to kind of poke at the
people I know it at Harmonics. But

2204
02:28:58.200 --> 02:29:01.319
uh, and it is more complicated
because of there's an issue, there's a

2205
02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:07.719
there's a schism there between creator and
like copyright owner. Yeah, and and

2206
02:29:07.840 --> 02:29:13.920
I think that's where where it becomes
more complex for them. But yeah,

2207
02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:16.520
they it's kind of but there's a
there's a bit of a difference of iterating

2208
02:29:16.559 --> 02:29:20.399
and adding a little something to the
mix and just totally whole cloth the just

2209
02:29:22.479 --> 02:29:26.399
and then the we changed this five
percent and put it back out on this

2210
02:29:26.479 --> 02:29:30.440
other plant more social functions, and
like, legally you might be able to

2211
02:29:30.440 --> 02:29:31.200
do whatever you want, but it
doesn't mean you're not going to take a

2212
02:29:31.239 --> 02:29:37.600
couple of licks for it. Plants
Versus Mummies, I don't know. Is

2213
02:29:37.600 --> 02:29:41.239
that a game? It is?
Now? All right? If you're not

2214
02:29:41.319 --> 02:29:43.799
interested, I got someplace you can
go. Hey, I'm working on this

2215
02:29:43.840 --> 02:29:48.799
new game called Pants Versus Mummies.
Is anyone interested? I'm fielding offers for

2216
02:29:50.959 --> 02:29:58.639
I'll sell it for fifteen dollars.
How could you throw that skull? Skulls?

2217
02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:05.520
Nonegotiable? I'm working on Skulls us
were Wolves if you guys are interested.

2218
02:30:05.600 --> 02:30:09.520
It's sponsored by Nancroids, yeats by
dan ackroid in app purchasing, Slash

2219
02:30:09.639 --> 02:30:13.079
Vodka Works, Vodica, show up
your house. It's a match three puzzle

2220
02:30:13.159 --> 02:30:16.879
game. You match the skulls to
fight the were wolves. Guys, I

2221
02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:20.000
have just rhymes. I have just
patented the ability to yell skulls at your

2222
02:30:20.120 --> 02:30:26.959
iPad and then vodka shows up your
house. I am working on all new

2223
02:30:28.000 --> 02:30:31.000
technology. If you pour vodka on
your iPhone, more will show up.

2224
02:30:31.239 --> 02:30:35.040
It's like, though you take the
last drips to your vodka, just pour

2225
02:30:35.079 --> 02:30:37.440
it on there it to text that
this is the bottom of a bottle mostly

2226
02:30:37.479 --> 02:30:43.079
backwash, fucking vodka. Sacrifice,
get a little, get a lot,

2227
02:30:43.200 --> 02:30:48.159
exactly. Yes, it's a little
easier than this yelling thing might be on

2228
02:30:48.360 --> 02:30:50.959
some of that. All right thing, great the yelling thing. Don't worry

2229
02:30:50.959 --> 02:30:54.559
about the yelling thing. The guy
that made that's getting launched into the sunsets.

2230
02:30:54.680 --> 02:30:58.360
So yeah, I wouldn't put any
money on that one here from me,

2231
02:31:00.000 --> 02:31:01.399
and I didn't need some more vodka
for that poor a little out right.

2232
02:31:03.040 --> 02:31:07.360
And Samiak has said that they're done
making resistance games like that last one,

2233
02:31:07.440 --> 02:31:09.719
that third one, that was the
last one we're gonna make. Sony's

2234
02:31:09.760 --> 02:31:15.440
probably gonna make more of these are
but we're not gonna make any more of

2235
02:31:15.479 --> 02:31:18.159
these. Yeah, yeah, they
get the this is three end I beat

2236
02:31:18.200 --> 02:31:20.559
I. Well, you played that
too, and it ends. I don't

2237
02:31:20.600 --> 02:31:24.799
think it ends well, but it
certainly ends. Yeah, they it's a

2238
02:31:24.879 --> 02:31:28.239
small it's a self continued little story. I feel like it's like that was

2239
02:31:28.319 --> 02:31:33.319
a series that, like obviously Sony
had grand ambitions for it, kicking off

2240
02:31:33.399 --> 02:31:35.440
the PS three launch with it,
and it seemed like there was some some

2241
02:31:35.559 --> 02:31:39.120
cool stuff about it. I just
I feel like that series never got its

2242
02:31:39.159 --> 02:31:41.319
footing and it never reached its full
potential. Like it's still like the idea

2243
02:31:41.399 --> 02:31:46.200
of aliens invading during a World War
two setting is still it's awesome, sounds

2244
02:31:46.280 --> 02:31:50.040
amazing, it sounds incredible, like
it's a great it's a great start,

2245
02:31:50.159 --> 02:31:54.760
but they're their fiction and their mythology
went real weird too soon. It got

2246
02:31:54.840 --> 02:31:56.959
Yeah, it got real deep,
real fast. And our two, you

2247
02:31:56.000 --> 02:32:00.239
know, and and Kills one two
got the line share of the interest you

2248
02:32:00.280 --> 02:32:03.319
know, from from the public,
and you know, people reacted to that

2249
02:32:03.399 --> 02:32:05.920
first fake ass trailer of Kills Owe
two and that's all you want want to

2250
02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:07.319
talk about when it came to first
person shooters on the playstage and three,

2251
02:32:07.440 --> 02:32:11.120
so you know, resistance kind of
got iced out as part of that too.

2252
02:32:11.200 --> 02:32:15.559
But also I don't think resistance too
was a good game, and you

2253
02:32:15.639 --> 02:32:18.920
know that that's certainly didn't I don't
think Resistance one was a fantastic game either,

2254
02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:22.559
but it had some really cool ideas. But I mean, I don't

2255
02:32:22.600 --> 02:32:26.000
think people should be shocked by this. I think they've handled it really well.

2256
02:32:26.000 --> 02:32:30.840
I think I think Insomniac has done
done a good job of like I

2257
02:32:30.879 --> 02:32:31.959
guess it got out there as part
of some interview, but then there's like

2258
02:32:33.040 --> 02:32:35.159
a there's a video of Ted Price
sitting on a couch saying like, hey,

2259
02:32:35.200 --> 02:32:37.319
look, you know, thanks for
coming along with us on the ride.

2260
02:32:37.520 --> 02:32:41.760
But you know, we've we've we've
decided or you know that we're not

2261
02:32:41.959 --> 02:32:45.479
making any further Resistance games. Maybe
Sony will whatever, you know, and

2262
02:32:45.680 --> 02:32:50.399
and we hope you'll play Overstrike Overstrech. Yeah, yeah, I think that's

2263
02:32:50.440 --> 02:32:54.239
it's it was a it's a good
idea for them to kind of put something

2264
02:32:54.280 --> 02:32:56.200
out themselves and kind of putting it
out then in their own words, and

2265
02:32:56.559 --> 02:33:01.520
it's like here's here's what's going on. He's I'm more if they if they

2266
02:33:01.600 --> 02:33:05.959
drop Ratchet Clank right, Yeah,
I'm curious to see if Sony actually does

2267
02:33:07.079 --> 02:33:11.040
pursue Resistance beyond, like the it's
I don't think there's enough for reverence for

2268
02:33:11.120 --> 02:33:15.600
that franchise. Also, the third
one didn't sell that well. No,

2269
02:33:16.159 --> 02:33:20.239
yeah, I mean, you know, maybe you could transition it to a

2270
02:33:20.360 --> 02:33:22.799
portable franchise if it finds some footing
there, But I don't know. I

2271
02:33:22.840 --> 02:33:26.760
don't know that. I don't know
that we'll see any Resistance games past this

2272
02:33:26.840 --> 02:33:31.200
one that's that's coming. Yeah,
And basically they never they were never able

2273
02:33:31.200 --> 02:33:35.959
to successfully like put a face to
that franchise. The main character wasn't that

2274
02:33:37.319 --> 02:33:41.959
you know, but they just rotated. But he's the same in the first

2275
02:33:41.959 --> 02:33:45.840
one and second one and then it
was different. But it's basically just like

2276
02:33:46.760 --> 02:33:50.520
the face of the Chimera was the
Yeah, never really into the an alien

2277
02:33:50.559 --> 02:33:52.200
design, but that was as as
close as they had to, like some

2278
02:33:52.280 --> 02:33:56.559
sort of consistent visual to sell the
game with. Yeah, like you think

2279
02:33:56.639 --> 02:33:58.600
to you know, you think,
oh, call of Duty, will they

2280
02:33:58.600 --> 02:34:01.559
always have never the same dudes in
those games? Well, it was never

2281
02:34:01.639 --> 02:34:05.600
about the dudes. It's about ship
blowing up. It even kills him,

2282
02:34:05.639 --> 02:34:07.680
which I'm not a particularly a big
fan of the franchise is like, but

2283
02:34:07.840 --> 02:34:11.920
it's very iconic, Like the look
of it is vivid and sharp like that.

2284
02:34:13.280 --> 02:34:15.639
I think of those glowing eyes whenever
I heat, like you know,

2285
02:34:15.920 --> 02:34:18.479
like the yeah, the hell gas
soldier like that. That whole outfit looks

2286
02:34:18.479 --> 02:34:22.680
awesome. I think they also just
took too long with the fiction for a

2287
02:34:22.760 --> 02:34:24.799
payoff, Like you never figured out
why the hell they were here. It's

2288
02:34:24.959 --> 02:34:28.440
been three games, What the hell
you're doing? That's all. It's all

2289
02:34:28.559 --> 02:34:31.040
and again It's what I always had
a problem with that franchise, especially in

2290
02:34:31.159 --> 02:34:33.879
R two and in R three,
is it's all buried in notes like you

2291
02:34:33.959 --> 02:34:37.319
gotta go dig in for the stuff
that I'm playing the game for, and

2292
02:34:37.399 --> 02:34:41.000
it's it's one thing, the high
thing, like tidbits away for fans.

2293
02:34:41.079 --> 02:34:43.760
It's another to obfuscate that to the
point where you feel like it's worked to

2294
02:34:43.879 --> 02:34:46.520
understand why you're playing this game.
Apparently some of that shit's been going on

2295
02:34:46.559 --> 02:34:50.680
with Assassin's Creed. I guess like
there was a comic or emotion comic or

2296
02:34:50.719 --> 02:34:54.360
some bullshit that like basically explains the
end of Etco's life. Stuff that should

2297
02:34:54.399 --> 02:34:56.559
have fucking been in like the last
game that he was going to be in,

2298
02:34:56.719 --> 02:35:01.719
but you have some CG movie thing. I guess but yeah, I'm

2299
02:35:03.159 --> 02:35:09.760
don't don't hide like big important story
beats in your trans media bullshit. Speaking

2300
02:35:09.799 --> 02:35:11.360
of video game fiction, Yeah,
did you guys see this? There's been

2301
02:35:11.360 --> 02:35:15.799
a bit of an uproar of the
latest Mass Effect book depends on a bunch

2302
02:35:15.840 --> 02:35:18.239
of spoilers. No, it's uh, they've got a bunch of stuff wrong

2303
02:35:18.520 --> 02:35:22.040
about the fiction of that universe.
Shit that whoever, Like just like way

2304
02:35:22.200 --> 02:35:26.440
characters are addressed, like you know, clan names being used instead of it's

2305
02:35:26.479 --> 02:35:31.120
all right, pretty nitpicky stuff,
but stuff that you would expect an author

2306
02:35:31.319 --> 02:35:33.440
working on a book to get right. There's like a Google doc just like

2307
02:35:33.520 --> 02:35:37.239
here's like ninety things wrong with this
book. And it's like, Okay,

2308
02:35:37.920 --> 02:35:39.479
this person says that they've never been
to this place before, but in this

2309
02:35:39.520 --> 02:35:43.120
previous book they totally were. And
this is the follow up to that book.

2310
02:35:43.159 --> 02:35:46.840
What's going on? It's like,
it's kind of ridiculous because it is

2311
02:35:46.040 --> 02:35:48.719
packing a part of book based on
a video game, which I don't really

2312
02:35:48.760 --> 02:35:52.040
hold in high regard anyway, but
it seems it seems like the people that

2313
02:35:52.120 --> 02:35:56.159
worked on it might not have held
it in a specially high regard either.

2314
02:35:56.399 --> 02:36:00.639
The amount of food that has been
circulating with regard to Mass Effects. Yeah,

2315
02:36:00.719 --> 02:36:03.479
it does not paint at you're very
rosy picture to stuff like that.

2316
02:36:03.680 --> 02:36:05.920
And I think people are going too
far whether it. You know, there's

2317
02:36:05.920 --> 02:36:09.799
always stuff like the script leaked or
whatever out of that beta or something,

2318
02:36:09.879 --> 02:36:16.559
and people are picking parts out of
that and presenting them, uh, brazen

2319
02:36:16.680 --> 02:36:22.719
ly like a bunch of assholes.
Maybe I don't want all of this ruined

2320
02:36:22.760 --> 02:36:24.920
for me just yet. Yeah,
but I don't know. It's it's hard

2321
02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:28.760
to pick that stuff out, like
without any sort of context and and and

2322
02:36:28.920 --> 02:36:33.719
make a determination one way or the
other about the final game. So yeah,

2323
02:36:33.440 --> 02:36:35.799
because I'm still holding out how hope
about that stuff? But yeah,

2324
02:36:35.799 --> 02:36:39.760
when you read some of that stuff, when you just you get sent the

2325
02:36:39.840 --> 02:36:43.959
two lines of here's what happens in
this game or here's the specific nature of

2326
02:36:43.239 --> 02:36:46.000
how this character develops, you can
shake your head and go, what the

2327
02:36:46.280 --> 02:36:50.799
fuck is they? What are they
doing over there? Some of that stuff

2328
02:36:50.799 --> 02:36:54.200
sounds pretty crazy. I like crazy, but I don't. I don't as

2329
02:36:54.280 --> 02:36:56.680
Effect is not the venue for crazy. I want to I want to play

2330
02:36:56.719 --> 02:37:00.479
Mass Effect three. I've managed to
not read any of this. I haven't

2331
02:37:00.479 --> 02:37:03.760
seen it. Yeah, I keep
I keep getting a bunch of it for

2332
02:37:03.840 --> 02:37:09.079
crazy. Yeah. Yeah, have
too many ways that people can send me

2333
02:37:09.239 --> 02:37:13.319
things, things that without the greater
context of actually playing the game, Like

2334
02:37:13.440 --> 02:37:18.559
I Yeah, I don't put that
much stock in Yeah, a script or

2335
02:37:18.879 --> 02:37:24.559
a you know, non canonical book
that was written by some other dude.

2336
02:37:24.479 --> 02:37:28.760
Yeah, it's just I just found
it kind of funny that this book is

2337
02:37:28.799 --> 02:37:33.520
apparently just full of utter nonsense,
which of course it would be. Yeah,

2338
02:37:33.760 --> 02:37:35.639
it's a book based on video game
I want. I want film grain

2339
02:37:35.840 --> 02:37:43.680
and horizontal lens flares and squabbling,
political arguments between aliens and the right trigger,

2340
02:37:45.360 --> 02:37:48.959
talking to guys through the right trigger, dialogue trees, and a bunch

2341
02:37:50.000 --> 02:37:54.239
of fake Vangelis. That's mass effect, Jennifer. Maybe you shoot some guys.

2342
02:37:54.520 --> 02:37:58.559
Okay, I'd play that game.
Yeah that sounds all right. They

2343
02:37:58.600 --> 02:38:01.000
made that game. It's pretty good, and I just want to play as

2344
02:38:01.000 --> 02:38:05.920
a Silarium. It's a nice dream. That's that's what's so crazy. The

2345
02:38:07.000 --> 02:38:09.040
multiplayer is for you, then,
I guess that's what Jeff I'm not telling

2346
02:38:09.079 --> 02:38:13.000
you is that you basically you go
into a shop and you you change gender

2347
02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:18.920
and race into a slarium. Have
you have your mind transferred the body of

2348
02:38:18.959 --> 02:38:26.000
a slim Pretty crazy. That's they're
pretty cool. Alright, let's talk about

2349
02:38:26.000 --> 02:38:30.280
the new releases. Forget that.
I've got a breaking news. Hold on,

2350
02:38:30.840 --> 02:38:33.159
I just checked. I just looked
at my phone. No, it's

2351
02:38:33.239 --> 02:38:41.440
not breaking. I've got to interrupt
this broadcast with a special announcement subject of

2352
02:38:41.559 --> 02:38:46.239
email pre order cancelation notice colon Skylanders
Adventure Pack. Dear Jeff, thank you

2353
02:38:46.360 --> 02:38:52.040
for pre ordering one or more Skylanders
Adventure Packs from Walmart dot com. Unfortunately,

2354
02:38:52.879 --> 02:38:56.520
due to an industry shortage, we
will not be able to fulfill any

2355
02:38:56.680 --> 02:39:00.319
pre orders for the items listed below. We may receive interested to worry at

2356
02:39:00.360 --> 02:39:03.120
some point in the near future,
possibly February of March, but because we

2357
02:39:03.159 --> 02:39:05.360
cannot guarantee a day, we have
canceled this item from your order. That

2358
02:39:05.520 --> 02:39:11.200
item the Skylanders Adventure Pack Empire of
Ice. Wow, I thought you were

2359
02:39:11.360 --> 02:39:16.120
had one. This I do because
activision set one. Oh man, you're

2360
02:39:16.120 --> 02:39:20.360
a part of this industry shortage.
Yeah, your industry. Uh thanks industry

2361
02:39:20.440 --> 02:39:24.399
insiders. Now some poor little kid
gets no Skylader. I'm that poor little

2362
02:39:24.479 --> 02:39:28.479
kid. Look at this email because
you have one. Yeah, and now

2363
02:39:28.520 --> 02:39:30.920
I'm not going to get this one
for a little For a little while there,

2364
02:39:30.920 --> 02:39:33.399
I was thinking about just letting this
order slide and then I'll have two

2365
02:39:33.399 --> 02:39:35.639
and I can sell dollars. You
totally, we're gonna buy that second one.

2366
02:39:37.280 --> 02:39:39.319
It was more than like that.
I was too lazy to figure out

2367
02:39:39.319 --> 02:39:43.200
how to cancel an order on Walmart. But but from this, this stuff

2368
02:39:43.239 --> 02:39:46.360
has gotten out of control. I
knew what was going to happen though,

2369
02:39:48.079 --> 02:39:52.920
Remember so I said, buy me
some and just put it just just by

2370
02:39:52.959 --> 02:39:56.159
the size end of the sophistication of
their in store presence. I'm like,

2371
02:39:56.280 --> 02:40:03.319
this is bad news. This it
is too well thought out. And like

2372
02:40:03.559 --> 02:40:07.120
two more single figures were released,
I guess sometime in January. You know

2373
02:40:07.159 --> 02:40:09.680
when I knew it was the second
time that we went back and it was

2374
02:40:09.760 --> 02:40:13.600
like it was like visibly it was
the next day and it was visibly barren.

2375
02:40:13.680 --> 02:40:16.159
I'm like, oh no, they
sold this was like the week after

2376
02:40:16.239 --> 02:40:20.239
it came out and stuff, and
it was already like this is just sold

2377
02:40:20.319 --> 02:40:24.000
a lot of these. Well,
the one thing we didn't talk about it

2378
02:40:24.000 --> 02:40:26.319
in news was that we used controller
having NFC in it. Now, what

2379
02:40:26.479 --> 02:40:31.600
is NFC. It's the portal of
power National Football comp like it's your field

2380
02:40:31.680 --> 02:40:35.959
communication. Yeah, okay, it's
based it's the micro check. I mean

2381
02:40:37.000 --> 02:40:39.760
it's do isn't it basically like r
F I D stuff smith when you need

2382
02:40:39.799 --> 02:40:43.319
it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's going to be built into

2383
02:40:43.360 --> 02:40:48.280
that we use. So if you
think about that with Pokemon and yeahs off

2384
02:40:48.280 --> 02:40:50.840
the shelf, Skyland just probably wouldn't
work with that if they're going with like

2385
02:40:50.920 --> 02:40:54.200
the pure NFC spec because I think
it is the kind of it's a slight

2386
02:40:54.280 --> 02:40:58.079
twist on that technology, but yeah, it's totally it's an I triple E

2387
02:40:58.239 --> 02:41:01.360
mandate. I don't I don't know
for sure, but like they do some

2388
02:41:01.440 --> 02:41:05.200
I was reading about some of the
NFC like games they have in Japan,

2389
02:41:05.319 --> 02:41:07.559
like some of the Arcade stuff,
because that's really big in Japan, is

2390
02:41:07.639 --> 02:41:11.399
buying these card packs and like like
NFC tech I guess is like where it

2391
02:41:11.479 --> 02:41:16.719
detected like in emotions, so like
you can be like moving your armies along

2392
02:41:16.879 --> 02:41:22.319
on the NFC like reflected up on
screen. It sounds really cool. Well

2393
02:41:22.479 --> 02:41:26.120
it's yeah, looking at it,
it's it's unfathomable because it's all in Japanese

2394
02:41:26.200 --> 02:41:30.440
and right, super complicated, but
that's a big thing over but yeah,

2395
02:41:30.479 --> 02:41:35.079
like the Android phone, like you
know, hold phone near thing to pay

2396
02:41:35.200 --> 02:41:37.639
for Starbucks. Like that's all NFC
and that's all. And then they've talked

2397
02:41:37.680 --> 02:41:41.879
about how like all the they want
to do payment system stuff on the WUS,

2398
02:41:41.959 --> 02:41:45.239
so like theoretically, if you you
know, rather than like having to

2399
02:41:45.920 --> 02:41:48.479
like if they want to stick to
not saving your credit card information, it

2400
02:41:48.520 --> 02:41:50.440
may be solved by like if you
have a credit card with an NFC chip,

2401
02:41:50.840 --> 02:41:54.719
it just deducts it right out of
the cards. Just kind of neat.

2402
02:41:54.959 --> 02:41:58.399
But I have to imagine that though
they will ship a Pokemon product that

2403
02:41:58.440 --> 02:42:05.600
takes manage of that stuff. It's
crazy if they don't better. I had

2404
02:42:05.600 --> 02:42:11.440
a Nintendo feels about the WU right
now, and they're basic state in the

2405
02:42:11.479 --> 02:42:15.680
industry. The rumors, I mean
whatever, it's all just nonsense rumors and

2406
02:42:15.799 --> 02:42:18.719
all stuff. But like people don't
The only people talking about the U right

2407
02:42:18.760 --> 02:42:22.559
now are people just like speculating about
like they got to change all this stuff.

2408
02:42:22.600 --> 02:42:24.200
It's like I heard an eat three. Everything's going to be different,

2409
02:42:24.280 --> 02:42:31.799
right down to the name and and
just that like the kind of public message

2410
02:42:31.840 --> 02:42:33.719
boards. This is the sort of
stuff that they're getting into just says to

2411
02:42:33.799 --> 02:42:37.920
me that there's just not a ton
of confidence out there if this is where

2412
02:42:37.959 --> 02:42:43.680
people are going with their with their
weird ass patently ridiculous rumors. Yeah,

2413
02:42:43.719 --> 02:42:46.639
we're so early with it. Yeah, but they had so little the show.

2414
02:42:46.239 --> 02:42:48.280
But I feel like that's kind of
the case. Every time stuff was

2415
02:42:48.280 --> 02:42:52.879
like a good proof proof of concept
of what that thing was capable of.

2416
02:42:52.000 --> 02:42:54.719
Sure, I mean, yeah,
they didn't have a ton of show in

2417
02:42:54.799 --> 02:42:58.760
terms of like package games, but
like almost many games were like it was

2418
02:42:58.840 --> 02:43:01.120
a it was a good like you
look the hardware, You're like, oh,

2419
02:43:01.159 --> 02:43:03.520
this totally works. I agree with
you. I am putting myself in

2420
02:43:03.559 --> 02:43:07.879
the shoes of the naysayers. Yeah, but that you're referring to you're playing

2421
02:43:07.920 --> 02:43:11.479
the Devil's Advocate, aren't you.
Well, I think people look a little

2422
02:43:11.760 --> 02:43:13.879
People like to put on their their
packed or hats, and it's it's getting

2423
02:43:13.879 --> 02:43:18.440
a little too bogged down in pats
and wear hats. But you it's just

2424
02:43:18.520 --> 02:43:22.159
that beautiful head of hair. Yeah, well into a hat. It's nice

2425
02:43:22.200 --> 02:43:26.200
silvery wigs just at the temples.
But I'm how I make my millions.

2426
02:43:26.799 --> 02:43:31.840
I heard PlayStation four is gonna be
more powerful than how many times. That's

2427
02:43:31.840 --> 02:43:33.840
all I care about. I just
care about how many times, like four

2428
02:43:33.879 --> 02:43:39.760
times heard the Xbox set of twenty
is gonna be five times? Five times?

2429
02:43:39.760 --> 02:43:43.159
Which platforms is gonna let me age
my content in a digital locker and

2430
02:43:43.360 --> 02:43:46.639
interact with the cell chips in my
microwave and refrigerator. PlayStation three, PlayStation

2431
02:43:46.719 --> 02:43:50.440
three done? No more platforms.
PlayStation three computer entertainment system. That's right.

2432
02:43:50.879 --> 02:43:54.559
It's gonna runs Linux. It does
whatever you want. It's computer.

2433
02:43:54.799 --> 02:43:58.959
It doesn't run LINX anymore. You
don't run linus anymore. All Right?

2434
02:43:58.079 --> 02:44:01.280
Your released we're on PlayStation three is
into the Sun? Who's with the Vanasy

2435
02:44:01.399 --> 02:44:07.040
thirteen two is out on PlayStation three, Xbox three sixty both. Are there

2436
02:44:07.079 --> 02:44:11.159
compression issues with any video? Staff
videos? Video looks better? Uh?

2437
02:44:11.520 --> 02:44:16.520
You definitely get some? Is it? Macroblocking is the term? I don't

2438
02:44:16.520 --> 02:44:18.239
know, the big, big fat
square compression art effects. That's call it

2439
02:44:18.319 --> 02:44:22.120
macroblock. You know what I'm talking
about? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

2440
02:44:22.159 --> 02:44:24.559
In some of the busier scenes you
see a little bit of that. Some

2441
02:44:24.680 --> 02:44:28.680
of the FMV, some of the
pre rendered video in Gears War three could

2442
02:44:28.719 --> 02:44:31.440
look better. Yeah, some of
that doesn't look great. You're right,

2443
02:44:31.719 --> 02:44:33.120
like you can tell like the original
assets, like, oh they this was

2444
02:44:33.159 --> 02:44:37.079
probably really impressive in its original and
compressied form. It's gotta it's gotta just

2445
02:44:37.120 --> 02:44:41.360
be a space consideration. Yeah,
it's better on the three, doesn't at

2446
02:44:41.360 --> 02:44:46.920
all. Yeah it cg and final
Ze thirteen was pristine, like it looked

2447
02:44:46.920 --> 02:44:50.200
amazing on the p S three.
Yeah, but yeah, that's what blue

2448
02:44:50.239 --> 02:44:52.799
ray gets you. He's saying a
little smarter maybe this time. Yeah,

2449
02:44:52.840 --> 02:44:54.920
it seems like it's a little bit
better this time, Like I said,

2450
02:44:54.040 --> 02:44:56.959
not perfect, but it's on one
disc this time, so maybe it's just

2451
02:44:58.040 --> 02:45:00.840
not as much as there's just there's
there's been very little video, you know

2452
02:45:01.159 --> 02:45:03.920
what. Actually find some kind of
way cool ways to integrate video into the

2453
02:45:03.000 --> 02:45:07.319
three D scenes. It's not just
like hey, let's cut to this lavish

2454
02:45:07.879 --> 02:45:11.360
or something a little bit. Yeah, it's like somebody has a vision of

2455
02:45:11.399 --> 02:45:13.959
the future and it's like a small
video kind of floating in space and having

2456
02:45:15.000 --> 02:45:18.760
weird effects going on and stuff.
That's's kind of neat. So Caliber five,

2457
02:45:18.440 --> 02:45:24.319
as previously mentioned from the PlayStation three
n Xbox three to sixty Never Dead,

2458
02:45:24.920 --> 02:45:31.680
that game still exists. It's out
great wait and Never Dead never made

2459
02:45:31.799 --> 02:45:35.920
by Rebellion. But did that not
get pushed? It? Had? I

2460
02:45:35.959 --> 02:45:37.680
mean it has something got pushed?
Was it not that? No, that

2461
02:45:37.879 --> 02:45:41.440
game is out? What else this
game is out? Yea that comes out?

2462
02:45:41.479 --> 02:45:45.200
Something in the next week or two
got pushed. Not Never Dead to

2463
02:45:45.280 --> 02:45:48.479
my knowledge? What else is coming
out in February? Wasn't The Darkness,

2464
02:45:48.600 --> 02:45:52.120
wasn't Syndic Kid, It wasn't Abel
or uh double Fine Happy Action Theater is

2465
02:45:52.120 --> 02:45:56.360
coming out on Xbox lab r Kid. You may have seen it on giant

2466
02:45:56.399 --> 02:46:03.360
bomb dot com. No, so
you may have just let you know I

2467
02:46:03.399 --> 02:46:07.200
didn't. Okay, well, some
some folks live at different lifestyle. I

2468
02:46:07.200 --> 02:46:09.760
saw it on YouTube dot com.
I want you to be accepting of that

2469
02:46:11.399 --> 02:46:18.040
and slash websites. Rhythm Party for
Xbox Ibrika. Time you say that,

2470
02:46:18.079 --> 02:46:24.319
I think you're going to say Rhythm
Heaven Yet Party. It's the game game

2471
02:46:24.479 --> 02:46:30.559
party of the new Millennium. We
took exactly what the name of this thing

2472
02:46:30.840 --> 02:46:35.760
was and then it made that the
title of it. So now you have

2473
02:46:35.879 --> 02:46:43.479
Rhythm Party, collection of rhythmic mini
games that you play with connect oh retail

2474
02:46:43.280 --> 02:46:50.600
uh no XP Who made that?
pH I don't know, but Kenami published

2475
02:46:50.639 --> 02:46:56.120
it. Take from that what you
will, I guess, although again they

2476
02:46:56.159 --> 02:46:58.239
did. Puddle, which came out
on three sixty last weekend, is coming

2477
02:46:58.280 --> 02:47:03.600
to a place network this week long
history of beautiful rhythm games from Konami.

2478
02:47:03.719 --> 02:47:09.639
That's true, and according to this
website giant bomb dot com, Konami made

2479
02:47:09.719 --> 02:47:15.079
Rhythm Party. Okay, So yeah, that's that and those are new releases.

2480
02:47:15.120 --> 02:47:18.360
Let's talk about some emails, you
guys. Let's read some and then

2481
02:47:18.520 --> 02:47:20.920
say things about them, and then
read some more. My Skylanders Empire Vice

2482
02:47:22.000 --> 02:47:24.200
pre order got canceled. That's an
email. That's an email I got.

2483
02:47:24.319 --> 02:47:28.159
Where's Brad? Brad's looking at his
emails? I was, in fact looking

2484
02:47:28.159 --> 02:47:33.760
at emails bomb cast at giant bomb
dot com. First email comes in from

2485
02:47:33.879 --> 02:47:39.840
David Gaudriel. His question for the
bomb cast tie Fighter. Oh god,

2486
02:47:39.920 --> 02:47:43.399
what gentlemen. That's it? Yes, yes, yes, yes from Jeff,

2487
02:47:43.479 --> 02:47:48.159
Yes from bradm it's a little more
I don't know kind of cage.

2488
02:47:48.200 --> 02:47:50.200
I don't know why, I think, because what does that mean? Like

2489
02:47:52.680 --> 02:47:54.639
I don't believe that the Arts could
make a good new tie Fighter. So

2490
02:47:54.799 --> 02:47:58.840
he's not actually putting his two thumbs
up, but videos willing to say,

2491
02:47:58.079 --> 02:48:01.559
willing to say at least two thumbs
up this radio, so it carries more

2492
02:48:01.600 --> 02:48:05.079
weight there. But I feel like
it for it to have any meaning,

2493
02:48:05.120 --> 02:48:07.920
you have to go like two thumbs
up and also put your two thumbs up.

2494
02:48:07.959 --> 02:48:09.920
What do you say? You say
if you think that if you say

2495
02:48:09.959 --> 02:48:13.159
two thumbs up, you don't need
to lift your two thumbs up. Do

2496
02:48:13.200 --> 02:48:16.719
you think that it still has any
meaning if there isn't an actual physical he's

2497
02:48:16.840 --> 02:48:18.680
raising. I think you say it
without putting the thumbs up, then it

2498
02:48:18.840 --> 02:48:22.399
becomes ironic. Yeah, he's raising. He's raising his mind thumbs and he

2499
02:48:22.399 --> 02:48:30.479
has an unlimited number of those thumbs
up two thumbs up sitting on Anybody who's

2500
02:48:30.520 --> 02:48:33.040
listening to this from their wrist,
heaps feel like that you have. You

2501
02:48:33.120 --> 02:48:37.000
have not moved your hand from your
chin for this entire conversation. I'm waiting

2502
02:48:37.079 --> 02:48:39.680
for the rest of the I'm a
afraid that a thumb might arrently go up

2503
02:48:41.000 --> 02:48:45.600
my jaw, my drop. That's
true, the inanity of this conversation.

2504
02:48:45.680 --> 02:48:48.959
You'll sell it separately from my skull
and some kid will get ripped off.

2505
02:48:48.440 --> 02:48:52.200
That's right. You don't have no
copyright on thumbs eight dollars for that jawless

2506
02:48:52.200 --> 02:48:56.479
skull. Oh no, you got
a kid, all right, it's fresh,

2507
02:48:56.760 --> 02:48:58.600
already got a jaw. Yeah,
Tie Fighter man sitting in front of

2508
02:48:58.600 --> 02:49:03.000
Wickman or three. All you want
to do is just play. Realize how

2509
02:49:03.040 --> 02:49:05.520
much I would rather have been playing
Tie Fighter. But yeah, I haven't

2510
02:49:05.520 --> 02:49:09.799
gone back to that game and so
long. It could be good, it

2511
02:49:09.840 --> 02:49:13.200
could be poop even No, it
was great. It had escort missions,

2512
02:49:13.239 --> 02:49:16.040
so it's not perfect whatever, but
they were good escort mission. They were

2513
02:49:16.079 --> 02:49:18.920
probably the best, that's a very
qualified best, but the best escort missions

2514
02:49:20.399 --> 02:49:24.799
of nostalgia right there. Good story, story was good, but like it

2515
02:49:24.920 --> 02:49:26.639
was what you're doing in the missions. It was so like that's the point

2516
02:49:26.680 --> 02:49:31.280
of like the whole Wake Commander comparison, because the space combat in that game

2517
02:49:31.440 --> 02:49:35.360
was legitimately poop. That stuff was
like watching Dave play that stuff. I

2518
02:49:35.440 --> 02:49:39.000
was like, dude, these missions
were just the same shit every time.

2519
02:49:39.040 --> 02:49:46.920
It was so shallow, clunkys.
Tie Fighter. You can divertvert your shields,

2520
02:49:46.000 --> 02:49:50.559
blaster power your shields, scan transports
to figure out which one is carrying

2521
02:49:50.600 --> 02:49:58.000
the rebel contraband now the thumbs go
up. He turned the thus into the

2522
02:49:58.120 --> 02:50:03.239
hanging loose sign to chaka's up.
I'm not sure, not sure how to

2523
02:50:03.360 --> 02:50:07.520
interpret this. Horns the horns,
but you're kind of had some other fingers.

2524
02:50:07.719 --> 02:50:13.680
This one's cutter, still ironic.
You're you're muddling the issue. Now

2525
02:50:13.239 --> 02:50:16.959
you're doing both the chaka and you
got your horns up, but you're also

2526
02:50:16.159 --> 02:50:22.399
shaking them. That's how people get
launched in space. It was up like

2527
02:50:22.479 --> 02:50:26.319
that without the chakra or the shocker
shaka. Not the shocker chaka bra chaka

2528
02:50:26.559 --> 02:50:31.639
out of the chakra chakra khan.
No one ever said its chakra. I

2529
02:50:31.680 --> 02:50:45.239
don't know. Yeah, sham Wisha
did that, Dick. Let's get some

2530
02:50:45.479 --> 02:50:54.920
zas rita's and ronas, apps and
taps, brah Bro, I love apps

2531
02:50:56.000 --> 02:50:58.920
and taps. Get some appies,
some nibblis. Oh yeah, I mean

2532
02:51:00.120 --> 02:51:05.079
had some boneless somethings. Oh man, put a bone in something bro Sean

2533
02:51:05.239 --> 02:51:09.200
for Milwaukee, Misconsin, Milwaukee,
Wisconsin. Keep it together. Man.

2534
02:51:09.959 --> 02:51:15.360
Hey Gang, I'm really curious on
your thoughts about Double Fine's recent exclusive work

2535
02:51:15.399 --> 02:51:18.680
for Microsoft. In the past year, those crazy awesome bastards have released the

2536
02:51:18.719 --> 02:51:22.959
delightful Stacking. The artist formerly known
as Trenched Sesame Street was upon a monster

2537
02:51:24.079 --> 02:51:28.239
and now the impending happy action theater
for connection. Seeing how Microsoft's exclusive developer

2538
02:51:28.319 --> 02:51:31.920
lineup is, to put it gently, a little lacking, I got twist

2539
02:51:31.959 --> 02:51:35.799
pixel gush, it would seem that
Double Fine could be a clear target for

2540
02:51:35.920 --> 02:51:37.520
them to acquire as a first party
studio. Do you think this would be

2541
02:51:37.520 --> 02:51:41.520
a good move only for Microsoft,
but but for Tim Schaefer and co over

2542
02:51:41.600 --> 02:51:46.200
at Double Find Thanks big fan of
the site and the bomb cast. Stacking

2543
02:51:46.319 --> 02:51:50.799
was not a Microsoft game, and
the Sesame Street was a Warner Brother game

2544
02:51:50.840 --> 02:51:56.239
and the point well and also stacking
came to p S three right, yes

2545
02:51:56.200 --> 02:52:01.159
and supposedly PC or is that announced
it's Annict stacking his nails? Yeah,

2546
02:52:01.399 --> 02:52:05.959
Iron Brigade. No, it's shown
up in found like Steam database stuff,

2547
02:52:05.959 --> 02:52:09.600
suggesting Iron Brigade is kind yeah,
babe. The way Brad new would always

2548
02:52:09.639 --> 02:52:15.360
say is like, if we would
Microsoft, let us Like it's basically it

2549
02:52:15.479 --> 02:52:16.559
was up to that. Okay,
that'd be a great piece. That's the

2550
02:52:16.600 --> 02:52:18.879
thing is they just make a bunch
of publisher deals and then it's kind of

2551
02:52:18.959 --> 02:52:24.239
up to the publishers about which platforms
that stuff ends up on. Uh,

2552
02:52:24.719 --> 02:52:26.840
And and they have had. I
think, well, I think, you

2553
02:52:26.920 --> 02:52:30.319
know Sean's observation of them having a
higher visibility on the three sixty than of

2554
02:52:30.319 --> 02:52:33.799
the platforms for the past year plus. I think it is primarily due to

2555
02:52:33.840 --> 02:52:37.920
their Connects experience. Yeah, yeah, and to be fair, connect and

2556
02:52:39.040 --> 02:52:43.120
Microsoft has been snatching up developers that
have been proven themselves capable of making Connect

2557
02:52:43.200 --> 02:52:48.079
games like that's that seems like that
is them, you know, a significant

2558
02:52:48.120 --> 02:52:52.440
part of the Twisted Pixel acquisition.
Oh wait, do you think that means

2559
02:52:52.520 --> 02:52:56.079
Twisted Pixels is only going to make
Connect games for a while. I don't

2560
02:52:56.079 --> 02:52:58.079
know. I don't know. I
haven't thought of that. I mean,

2561
02:52:58.280 --> 02:53:03.920
obviously they you know, they originally
kind of made their mark with crazy platformers

2562
02:53:03.959 --> 02:53:09.319
and such. But I think being
able to make it seems like like Microsoft

2563
02:53:09.399 --> 02:53:15.719
puts high value on developers that can
make a decent Connect game. So hard

2564
02:53:15.760 --> 02:53:20.159
to say, uh, would they
buy them? I don't know. I

2565
02:53:20.200 --> 02:53:22.959
don't know if that's a if that's
an acquisition that makes sense for Microsoft,

2566
02:53:24.239 --> 02:53:28.479
or if that would make sense for
Double Fine. I mean, Tell Fine's

2567
02:53:28.479 --> 02:53:31.639
problem for the long time was just
a money flow issue, so they seem

2568
02:53:31.639 --> 02:53:33.479
to have that sort of sorted out. Also, that would be ironic after

2569
02:53:33.559 --> 02:53:39.000
Microsoft fucking refused to release their first
game and sold them off to Majestso for

2570
02:53:39.079 --> 02:53:43.440
it. Yeah, it's probably a
good idea for my for Microsoft. I

2571
02:53:43.879 --> 02:53:46.440
I don't know how Double Fine feels
about that now what they're sort of there,

2572
02:53:46.520 --> 02:53:50.559
they've kind of got their legs after
kind of a rough patch. It

2573
02:53:50.639 --> 02:53:52.840
seems like it definitely seems like it. They've been prolific this past year.

2574
02:53:52.879 --> 02:54:03.639
If nothing else, folk show it's
all an email. Tim from Chicago is

2575
02:54:03.680 --> 02:54:09.000
our next emailer, Hey, bombardeers. I keep hearing people complaining about online

2576
02:54:09.000 --> 02:54:11.799
passes and console games, and I
have to wonder how this is any different

2577
02:54:11.840 --> 02:54:15.959
from PC games all needing serial numbers. I'm primarily a PC gamers, so

2578
02:54:16.040 --> 02:54:18.840
the thought of passes and the like
don't bother me in or wonder if other

2579
02:54:18.879 --> 02:54:22.040
PC game playing folk who dabble in
console games feel the same way. This

2580
02:54:22.120 --> 02:54:24.920
whole thing just seems to remind me
of when the serial number thing became the

2581
02:54:24.120 --> 02:54:28.600
standard. Yeah, I've kind of
been going back to that over and over

2582
02:54:28.600 --> 02:54:33.000
again. Yeah, as this stuff
gets more prolific on consoles, is like,

2583
02:54:33.079 --> 02:54:37.319
yeah, it's serial numbers. It
doesn't matter if if it's an online

2584
02:54:37.360 --> 02:54:41.239
or offline, confirm that you bought
this game. That's why you don't see

2585
02:54:41.360 --> 02:54:45.239
used game sales on a PC.
Yeah, and that market seems to be

2586
02:54:45.959 --> 02:54:50.840
doing okay, it does. So
you know, all the all the talk

2587
02:54:50.920 --> 02:54:56.040
of it'll kill everything if you disallow
us sales, I don't know, it's

2588
02:54:56.040 --> 02:54:58.319
just killed game stuff. Yeah,
what is it gonna killed? Besides,

2589
02:54:58.360 --> 02:55:01.200
the purveyors have used games. I
think the argument becomes of the people that

2590
02:55:01.280 --> 02:55:05.159
sell their games back to a game
stop then use that money to buy more

2591
02:55:05.239 --> 02:55:07.440
games and keep the cycle moving.
And I mean the great, the great

2592
02:55:07.520 --> 02:55:11.440
chain something something. Yeah, but
the mortgage should adapt, right, Yeah,

2593
02:55:13.280 --> 02:55:16.079
games go on some pretty generous sales. Yeah, you know, it's

2594
02:55:16.120 --> 02:55:18.319
true, And I would I would
argue that there are a lot of games

2595
02:55:18.360 --> 02:55:22.680
on Steam that would have been you
know, forty fifty dollars retail games had

2596
02:55:22.799 --> 02:55:28.559
this had had that still remained the
market and the structure. Yeah yeah,

2597
02:55:28.680 --> 02:55:31.040
maybe right, Maybe maybe that is
the market needs to adapt to a wider

2598
02:55:31.559 --> 02:55:37.879
standard pricing because publisher getting some money
for every sale is better than them getting

2599
02:55:39.799 --> 02:55:43.040
full money from one only their new
sales. Like a good example, when

2600
02:55:43.040 --> 02:55:46.840
we start talking about hit Man,
I wanted to go play hey Man blood

2601
02:55:46.879 --> 02:55:50.280
Money, so started investigating the ways
I can go play hit Man Blood Money.

2602
02:55:50.719 --> 02:55:54.399
Can't buy it on a retail shelf
anymore, and so it's like eight

2603
02:55:54.479 --> 02:55:58.680
dollars on Steam, It's thirty dollars
on Xbox Live. I can buy the

2604
02:56:00.079 --> 02:56:05.000
higher Hitman collection for like fifteen dollars
on Steam, and it's just like who,

2605
02:56:05.879 --> 02:56:09.200
So you realize, wait, whether
it's a Microsoft tissue, which my

2606
02:56:09.319 --> 02:56:13.719
understanding is it is more than an
like an idose or Square issue, decent

2607
02:56:13.760 --> 02:56:16.639
Blood on the Sand is sixty dollars
on Games on Demand, Like like I'm

2608
02:56:16.719 --> 02:56:20.399
going I am going to go buy
that game use day GameStop because I looked

2609
02:56:20.399 --> 02:56:24.600
it up and I can go to
Gamestop's website and they will hold use games

2610
02:56:24.680 --> 02:56:28.040
for you, Like I just have
to go to the counter and it's seven

2611
02:56:28.200 --> 02:56:30.280
ninety nine. It's like, so
what do you think I'm gonna do?

2612
02:56:30.639 --> 02:56:33.680
Like, but it's in this transaction. I want to I'd pay more than

2613
02:56:33.760 --> 02:56:37.680
seven bucks, but I'm not going
to pay thirty dollars Like that's crazy,

2614
02:56:39.000 --> 02:56:41.840
Like and it's just they're you know, they're losing out on a sale because

2615
02:56:41.959 --> 02:56:46.319
they're not being the system is.
I don't know if it's a system problem

2616
02:56:46.399 --> 02:56:48.799
or like they I don't know,
but I'm willing to pay money and you're

2617
02:56:48.879 --> 02:56:52.920
losing money because you're just not adapting. I don't I don't know how they

2618
02:56:52.000 --> 02:56:56.840
probace so aggressively on that on the
market place, it's ridiculous. Like Dargan

2619
02:56:56.879 --> 02:57:00.360
Asylum has been like seven bucks for
the game of the Year additional Steam,

2620
02:57:00.360 --> 02:57:03.319
which is a better version in the
Xbox One anyway, which has been thirty

2621
02:57:03.440 --> 02:57:05.719
year forty like forever. You know, every business has to figure out what

2622
02:57:05.799 --> 02:57:09.360
makes sense for them for for the
pricing, and then you know, the

2623
02:57:09.840 --> 02:57:13.840
market trends and the forces will will
determine if that's viable or not. Ultimately,

2624
02:57:15.440 --> 02:57:18.440
so if if Microsoft's like, fuck
it, we're gonna we're gonna price

2625
02:57:18.479 --> 02:57:22.799
at this stuff and then they get
shut out because of it, you know,

2626
02:57:22.840 --> 02:57:28.040
like that's kind of how that story
goes. But it's also fully their

2627
02:57:28.120 --> 02:57:30.440
right to do. So. All
right, this next email, Patrick,

2628
02:57:30.520 --> 02:57:33.200
are you ready for this one?
Yeah? Have you been preparing? I

2629
02:57:33.239 --> 02:57:37.799
wrote them down? Okay, good
Sextio coachin from Joanie Olakanan from Finland.

2630
02:57:39.399 --> 02:57:41.479
Hate duters. I'm a big fan
of the site and there are two things

2631
02:57:41.559 --> 02:57:45.040
I need to know about you gotta
blah blah blah. Okay, we forget

2632
02:57:45.079 --> 02:57:48.200
the second question. It was the
only one really one question. You're from

2633
02:57:48.239 --> 02:57:52.120
Jhnny and it's for Patrick. What
are Patrick's top three favorite X Files episode?

2634
02:57:52.159 --> 02:57:58.840
I picked four. That's not the
question that means you are knew this

2635
02:57:58.879 --> 02:58:03.399
was COVID. Yeah, I had. I had to think, Like it's

2636
02:58:03.399 --> 02:58:05.799
been a while, I rewatched all
the X Files before the second movie came

2637
02:58:05.840 --> 02:58:07.200
out. I asked him earlier today
because I knew that springing it on him

2638
02:58:07.239 --> 02:58:09.200
on the moment, in the moment
would not be because the only one I'd

2639
02:58:09.239 --> 02:58:11.840
be able to stay off the top
of my head, because I'd like to

2640
02:58:11.840 --> 02:58:15.280
be able to describe one. So
Home, which is the only the X

2641
02:58:15.319 --> 02:58:20.200
Files episode that was banned from TV's
a bunch of hillbillies that are having sex

2642
02:58:20.280 --> 02:58:26.639
with their mom who has no legs
and is hiding underneath a bed, and

2643
02:58:26.760 --> 02:58:31.079
she gets rolled out on a floorboard
and as sex with her. So that's

2644
02:58:31.280 --> 02:58:37.159
that one scarred me as a kid. Aliens with aliens are serious. And

2645
02:58:37.200 --> 02:58:39.399
then I just want to write this
episode. Why do you want to write

2646
02:58:39.440 --> 02:58:43.520
this episode? My therapistode that I
need to get this out tote this episode.

2647
02:58:46.319 --> 02:58:50.959
What are we doing here? It's
dude, messed me up as fuck

2648
02:58:50.040 --> 02:58:56.360
you Chris Cooper, Chris Cooper,
Chris Cooper, what's the guy? No,

2649
02:58:56.000 --> 02:59:00.680
it's not Chris Cooper. What's the
guy? Who's Chris Chris Carter?

2650
02:59:00.760 --> 02:59:01.479
Thank you? I was, I
was, I wanted to leave it hand

2651
02:59:01.600 --> 02:59:05.239
was close. Are you all right? So my other favorite one Cooper is

2652
02:59:05.280 --> 02:59:11.879
a celebrated character actor episode called Drive, which for Breaking Brad fans, uh,

2653
02:59:11.360 --> 02:59:16.000
Breaking Bad fans. You ruined me
on that because Brian Cranston is in

2654
02:59:16.079 --> 02:59:18.680
this and it was written by Vince
Gill again oh wow. And the reason,

2655
02:59:18.920 --> 02:59:22.799
oh this is the one that the
re started. Yeah. The reason

2656
02:59:22.920 --> 02:59:26.840
that uh, Vince children I'm back
in uh picked up Brian Cranston for Breaking

2657
02:59:26.879 --> 02:59:33.399
Bad was because this performance here that's
pre Malcolm in the middle of Brian crampt

2658
02:59:33.600 --> 02:59:37.559
yeah, long before this is uh
yeah, this is like season four so

2659
02:59:37.520 --> 02:59:41.040
uh yeah. And that one Brian
Cranston has like this ringing in his ear

2660
02:59:41.600 --> 02:59:45.360
that won't go away, and he
has to keep going faster and faster because

2661
02:59:45.360 --> 02:59:50.120
dealing way the pressure doesn't build up. Uh And there's like some navy like

2662
02:59:50.600 --> 02:59:54.159
array underneath the ground that was causing
people to go crazy. So he's,

2663
02:59:54.280 --> 02:59:58.879
uh, he has to keep driving
fats. Yeah, I'm looking. Then

2664
02:59:58.920 --> 03:00:05.079
there's also this woman that having sex
with underneath bad a lot of under bed

2665
03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:09.280
sex in these X Files episodes.
This trend, the truth is out there.

2666
03:00:09.639 --> 03:00:13.520
It's it like becomes like the race
for fucking X Files. Uh.

2667
03:00:13.719 --> 03:00:18.000
Then, okay, the throd one
is is nearly I think his first second

2668
03:00:18.040 --> 03:00:20.920
season called Pusher. It's about a
guy who can convince people to do other

2669
03:00:22.040 --> 03:00:24.879
things. Uh. And at the
end of the episode, Mulder gets into

2670
03:00:24.879 --> 03:00:28.319
playing Russian Roulette with him. But
the guy it's this tumor that allows him

2671
03:00:28.319 --> 03:00:31.799
to convince other people to do other
things and is fueled by energy drinks.

2672
03:00:31.760 --> 03:00:37.479
Man, right, like me pretty
close? How you convinced me to come

2673
03:00:37.559 --> 03:00:39.719
here? Yeah? Exactly? All
right, chop off your legs and roll

2674
03:00:39.760 --> 03:00:43.079
you onto this bed? Yeah,
seeing him weak? Do you know?

2675
03:00:43.399 --> 03:00:46.639
Do you know what else? Brian
Christen played the dentist in that Seinfeld episode.

2676
03:00:48.000 --> 03:00:50.600
Yes, have you seen that recently? I pulled that up over the

2677
03:00:50.639 --> 03:00:54.559
weekend. That was weird. Okay, I ask a general X Files question,

2678
03:00:54.719 --> 03:00:58.440
Having never really watched that much of
it? Do they ever acknowledge that

2679
03:00:58.639 --> 03:01:01.479
there are aliens? What do you
mean? Is the truth out there?

2680
03:01:01.680 --> 03:01:05.319
Is it? Is it? At
some point? Is it just like that's

2681
03:01:05.479 --> 03:01:09.959
just that's aliens right there? Oh
yeah, it goes beyond that, Yeah,

2682
03:01:09.200 --> 03:01:16.399
goes well beyond, so that is
not always just like well that's so

2683
03:01:16.479 --> 03:01:20.680
the Yeah, that's the dynamic of
the show. Is is Molder is you

2684
03:01:20.719 --> 03:01:22.719
know, the one who really believes, like you know, goes too far

2685
03:01:22.920 --> 03:01:26.959
and like seeing things when things aren't
necessarily there be. Scully is the ongoing

2686
03:01:28.000 --> 03:01:31.879
skeptics. She's the foil and where
she'll see things where like you clearly they're

2687
03:01:31.920 --> 03:01:35.600
fucking aliens. But she's like,
well but at some point it's just like

2688
03:01:35.760 --> 03:01:39.000
that is oh yeah there really looking, dude, there are gray aliens running

2689
03:01:39.040 --> 03:01:45.280
around, and eventually they impregnate they
impregnate Scully even then they steal the baby

2690
03:01:45.360 --> 03:01:48.280
later and everybody's on the same page
aliens And that's why she believes it,

2691
03:01:48.399 --> 03:01:52.280
right, Yeah the movie did they
go inside a ship? They go inside

2692
03:01:52.280 --> 03:01:54.840
of ship, but then she gets
knocked unconscious, and even though the ship

2693
03:01:54.920 --> 03:01:56.959
flies away in front of her,
she misses it and she doesn't believe it.

2694
03:01:58.280 --> 03:02:01.360
But by the second half the series, she is, They've killed Mulder's

2695
03:02:01.520 --> 03:02:07.639
sister like nine hundred times. That
series ends real bad. Yeah, it

2696
03:02:07.440 --> 03:02:13.079
was just like garbage, right.
Oh yeah, some Russian scientists harvesting organs.

2697
03:02:13.239 --> 03:02:15.760
Wait, it wasn't even about aliens. No, why are you making

2698
03:02:15.879 --> 03:02:18.879
X Files movie that's not about alienating
because everyone would think it would be about

2699
03:02:18.879 --> 03:02:22.399
aliens and then that's the twist.
But then also like six years after the

2700
03:02:22.440 --> 03:02:26.159
series had ended. Yeah, that
second X Files, it was just pushing

2701
03:02:26.239 --> 03:02:30.079
the core mythology. Yeah, dude, David Dukevnany keeps saying, I want

2702
03:02:30.120 --> 03:02:33.799
to make a third one because the
whole core no careful kraiof fornication is doing

2703
03:02:33.879 --> 03:02:37.719
really well. He's doing really well
for himself, so he that that is

2704
03:02:37.840 --> 03:02:41.559
pure, pure passion project for him. But well, because the whole core

2705
03:02:41.600 --> 03:02:45.959
of the X Files mythology was the
Mayans stuff. Yeah, so I think

2706
03:02:46.000 --> 03:02:50.120
a fringe kind of has taken over
the X File. Yeah, that sounds

2707
03:02:50.159 --> 03:02:52.879
like that's because it made the same
mistake that X Files made, which is

2708
03:02:54.000 --> 03:02:56.520
fall too far up its own ass. Like it started off as a good

2709
03:02:56.600 --> 03:03:01.159
kind of Monster of the Week format, much like X Files and and fucking

2710
03:03:01.239 --> 03:03:07.079
Parallel Worlds and no Fringes handles that
really well. Fringe it had the opposite

2711
03:03:07.159 --> 03:03:11.479
problem of all the it it tried
to avoid Lost. It was like get

2712
03:03:11.959 --> 03:03:15.920
really far up its own ass,
which I enjoyed, but it was really

2713
03:03:16.000 --> 03:03:18.840
bad at the like relationship and love
story stuff. So eventually they just dropped.

2714
03:03:18.879 --> 03:03:24.000
And so let's just get weird yeast
and the blank of the week,

2715
03:03:24.280 --> 03:03:31.959
right, h that's nice axtraz.
Uh, it's all right. It's every

2716
03:03:31.040 --> 03:03:35.280
show post Lost. Uh, Whereas
Lost got accused of not knowing where it

2717
03:03:35.360 --> 03:03:39.639
was going. Uh. Now every
show is so blatantly mapped out. But

2718
03:03:39.760 --> 03:03:43.879
when like when they shoot it,
you can just tell like they're they're too

2719
03:03:43.000 --> 03:03:46.200
much following a roadmap, so they
can show too much too early, and

2720
03:03:46.239 --> 03:03:50.719
it's like, here's the weird stuff. But it's I like to believe that

2721
03:03:50.639 --> 03:03:54.879
this is just like a side story
from Jurassic Park. And so Sam Neils

2722
03:03:54.920 --> 03:03:58.159
in it, and he's really good, and there's literally a line where he

2723
03:03:58.360 --> 03:04:03.520
goes, welcome to Alcatraz. It's
so clearly he's just playing yeah. It's

2724
03:04:03.680 --> 03:04:09.280
so clearly just playing yeah. But
he's handing it up. He is playing

2725
03:04:09.319 --> 03:04:16.319
a character actor and in that one
he's pulling a Lance Hendrickson speaking of yourself

2726
03:04:16.520 --> 03:04:22.000
from out which Patrick you see?
Do you see this? Next? Emil

2727
03:04:22.040 --> 03:04:26.319
comes in from Blake, Next and
final email comes in from Blake in Texas.

2728
03:04:26.840 --> 03:04:31.360
Uh, let's see here at the
end of the Lost World Drastic Park,

2729
03:04:31.840 --> 03:04:35.399
which you watched recently. I did
watch recently the Drastic Park three,

2730
03:04:35.479 --> 03:04:39.239
the boat bringing the so so you
will confirm that Draft Park two, Lost

2731
03:04:39.319 --> 03:04:43.639
World not as bad as you remembered
it. The Raptor, the Raptor scene

2732
03:04:43.760 --> 03:04:48.479
where the camera pulls up and you
just see them slinking through like the cornfield

2733
03:04:48.559 --> 03:04:52.479
or whatever. It's yeah, some
good. It's not good, but it's

2734
03:04:52.639 --> 03:04:56.239
it's not as bad as I remember
and not as bad as three. No,

2735
03:04:56.000 --> 03:05:01.760
William H. Macy Man and that
movie handing it up? Don't the

2736
03:05:01.879 --> 03:05:05.639
kids show up at the beginning again
like the way that they did. It's

2737
03:05:05.680 --> 03:05:09.479
beginning of Yeah, I had a
lot to drink. We'll see if you

2738
03:05:09.479 --> 03:05:13.280
can pull this out here all right? At the end of the Lost World

2739
03:05:13.360 --> 03:05:15.879
Dress Park, the boat bringing the
t Rex to San Diego has all of

2740
03:05:15.920 --> 03:05:20.639
its crew members massacret Yep, there's
a disembodied hand clutching the wheel in the

2741
03:05:20.680 --> 03:05:24.879
steering room, yet the small room
is otherwise undisturbed. How did this man

2742
03:05:24.120 --> 03:05:28.639
die? T Rex couldn't get in
there, and baby t Rex were traveling

2743
03:05:28.719 --> 03:05:31.360
via helicopter. No other dinos were
on board. How did all of these

2744
03:05:31.440 --> 03:05:35.200
crew members, and specifically the person
at the steering wheel meet their gruesome doom?

2745
03:05:35.920 --> 03:05:39.559
I feel like there's a brain teaser
or something. Does he have the

2746
03:05:39.639 --> 03:05:45.200
answer? The answer is the doctor
was a woman. Thanks to who wrote

2747
03:05:45.239 --> 03:05:48.840
in bomb cast at GiantBomb dot com
as the email address. We're playing Iron

2748
03:05:48.920 --> 03:05:56.319
Brigade on TNT this week. Brad
Muir and Sundry other folks from Double Fine

2749
03:05:56.360 --> 03:06:00.719
Productions will be in the office out
of here because unlike wouldn't want to.

2750
03:06:00.760 --> 03:06:07.000
It's like we're playing our brigade,
or like like the Royal were also play.

2751
03:06:07.200 --> 03:06:11.719
The people are playing. Everyone's playing. I mean wait aute, yeah,

2752
03:06:11.120 --> 03:06:16.280
yeah, the folks at home and
it's true Brad fashion little zoo folks

2753
03:06:16.319 --> 03:06:20.840
at no home. No that all
his dialogue was recorded six months ago.

2754
03:06:20.920 --> 03:06:22.680
We could just air it now.
That's right, that's right. Got this

2755
03:06:22.760 --> 03:06:28.200
in the can a while ago during
a lengthy fucking process it turns out two

2756
03:06:28.319 --> 03:06:31.959
new Yeah. So they've got new
DLC coming out this week. Rise in

2757
03:06:33.000 --> 03:06:35.319
the Martian Bear four Iron Brigades.
We're gonna be playing around with that stuff

2758
03:06:35.680 --> 03:06:41.719
on TNT this week. Uh GBT
and T is the user name on Xbox

2759
03:06:41.799 --> 03:06:45.040
Live. If you want to friend
us and we'll figure out something. Full

2760
03:06:45.159 --> 03:06:48.760
on hot salutes, yeah, double
handed salutes. Look out for them are

2761
03:06:48.760 --> 03:06:52.399
they're gonna be all up in your
grill. Just Thursday, four pm Pacific.

2762
03:06:54.559 --> 03:07:03.000
Uh vy caravel any final thoughts?
I believe all right? Also A

2763
03:07:03.120 --> 03:07:07.479
right, he's doing that. He's
doing it. I can't just keeps doing

2764
03:07:07.520 --> 03:07:11.799
it. I have to just keeps
doing. Like you said, it's radio.

2765
03:07:11.840 --> 03:07:13.719
I have to it's for you.
I have to say something. I'll

2766
03:07:13.760 --> 03:07:16.840
try to hang loose. You want
me, okay, you want me to

2767
03:07:16.920 --> 03:07:20.719
call you, got it, but
hang loose wild hang Nobody call you on

2768
03:07:20.959 --> 03:07:24.239
naked go fishing? What call you? Okay on a old time on my

2769
03:07:24.440 --> 03:07:31.760
eight millimeter camera. Okay, you're
I get Dixon four. You're hand signs

2770
03:07:31.840 --> 03:07:35.879
have stopped seven four. Let's go
to that. It's the standard. We

2771
03:07:35.959 --> 03:07:39.879
all understand. I'm not very good. Give me a flag. We don't

2772
03:07:39.879 --> 03:07:41.479
have it. We take that car
with Vian banner. But then you just

2773
03:07:41.520 --> 03:07:45.959
make a mess in here and that's
it for the show. Thanks for listening.

2774
03:07:45.959 --> 03:07:48.760
We'll be back next Tuesday with another
dishit of the jat Ball Cash