1 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:21,480 We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinsky, 2 00:00:21,559 --> 00:00:24,160 culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,120 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on Twitter at fdr LST. 4 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:31,399 Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcasts, and if you want 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,640 to support our work, you can head on over and subscribe to the premium 6 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:38,840 version of our website at the Federalist dot com as well. Today we're joined 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,359 by Seamus Bruner. He is the author of the new book Control of Garcs, 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,200 exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals, and the globalist plot to 9 00:00:47,359 --> 00:00:52,520 dominate your life. Seamus, thanks so much for joining the show. Emily, 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 it's a pleasure to be with you. Yeah. So, Seamus, 11 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,920 you do a lot of work with the Government Accountability Institute, your research director. 12 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:03,000 You've worked with Peter Schweitzer. Can you tell us just a little bit 13 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:06,000 about your background, since it's your first time on the show, and how 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,319 you ended up digging into this investigation in particular? Certainly so, I volunteered 15 00:01:12,359 --> 00:01:18,400 as an you know, I volunteered for Peter Schweitzer before the Government Accountability Institute 16 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:23,840 was founded. This is back in twenty and eleven and worked on Schweitzer's book 17 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Throw Them All Out, that exposed the insider trading scandal in Congress with that's 18 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,319 one of my favorite books. It's such a good book. And so, 19 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:36,560 I mean, in college, I studied political science, thought I might want 20 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:42,400 to go into politics, and just a year of volunteering for Peter Schweitzer realized 21 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:47,519 I absolutely don't want to go into politics, and had so much fun just 22 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:53,000 digging through the stock trades of Nancy Pelosi that I decided to take a job 23 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,319 with Peter. When the Government Accountability Institute was founded in twenty thirteen, I 24 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:01,920 think I started working with gas and yeah, I now I've worked on I 25 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,959 think eight Schweitzer books. I mean, the probably my favorite was the Clinton 26 00:02:07,079 --> 00:02:12,120 cash Book. And I'm just kind of the nerd who goes through the mountains 27 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,680 of financial filing. So I took all of the Clinton Foundation nine nineties and 28 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:21,280 all of those speech payments that Bill was giving, put him into a spreadsheet. 29 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,400 They were in these hideous not ocr and for the person people out there 30 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,039 don't know what ocr is means, not searchable PDFs. So hundreds and hundreds 31 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:35,360 of pages of cash flowing into the Clinton Foundation. I put all that into 32 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,360 a spreadsheet, started sorting and filtering and found, look at these speeches that 33 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,680 he gave in Russia or China or you know, these don't look very good. 34 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:47,280 And then we kind of tracked down what was Hillary Clinton doing at the 35 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:52,240 State Department at that time, and we found, of course a lot of 36 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,800 the State Department priorities tracked with Bill Clinton's speeches. So that was just fun 37 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,759 and a really big expo. And then we moved on to I mean, 38 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,120 we did a book bush Bucks back then. We are a non partisan institute, 39 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:10,960 so we do go after both sides, but the money coming into things 40 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,719 like the Clinton Foundation, and then of course the bidens. We started following 41 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,639 Hunter seeing what he was up to. We found the Ukraine Forreisma scandal. 42 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:24,960 We found the China money, the big Bohi Harvest billion dollar private equity deal 43 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,639 that happened just ten days after Hunter flew on Air Force two to Beijing. 44 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:36,719 It was on that trip that Joe Biden met with Hunter's Chinese business partner. 45 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:39,719 Of course, Joe is always denied meeting with the business partners, but now 46 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:44,439 we've got dozens of meetings and the phone calls and so that you know, 47 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,199 that's been a really a five year long investigation into the Bidens. And our 48 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,759 motto at the Government Accountability Institute is to follow the money, and so I 49 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,240 figured, why don't we follow the money all the way to the top. 50 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:02,199 And so of course George Soros is a known major finance seer of progressive interests, 51 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:08,080 and you see that with the prosecutors, who are you know, trumping 52 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,520 up a lot of these charges against the former president. But then I kept 53 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,800 going and Bill Gates, I mean, the pandemic was really really a you 54 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,879 know, a wake up call for a lot of people. And this guy, 55 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Bill Gates, he're like, what is this software? So, you 56 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,319 know, the guy who sells computers, what does he know about global health? 57 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:31,920 So that's really where this book got kicked off. And you know, 58 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,519 the Hunter Biden investigation is an interesting parallel because on the one hand, there's 59 00:04:36,879 --> 00:04:42,839 a huge paper trail, but it wasn't of you know, things that were 60 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:47,920 voluntarily disclosed. There it's this like massive puzzle that you have to piece together 61 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:53,839 from the hard drive. But then there are some public records because his father 62 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,399 was president to the extent that he's been disclosing some of that. I guess 63 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:03,439 I'm just wondering how how that compares with a Bill Gates, a George Soros, 64 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:11,600 people who have these decades of media presences, political presences. It seems 65 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:15,959 like incredibly daunting puzzle too. I mean, if the Hunter Biden one seems 66 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,920 daunting, this seems much more daunting, seamous. How do those kind of 67 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:27,240 endeavors compare. Yeah, it is, it is absolutely daunting. The good 68 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,639 thing is, though, with a lot of these public companies, I mean, 69 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:33,040 they put the information out there and you have to piece it together, 70 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,160 but it is there. I mean, at the Government Accountability Institute, you 71 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:41,439 know, we mostly go after government records, and you know, the FOYA 72 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:46,160 is pretty tricky. They usually don't like to give those up willingly. So 73 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,680 no, we you know, we don't have all of the private communications like 74 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:53,519 we do with Hunter for some of the characters in this book, but they 75 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:58,399 are also very well known public figures, and there is just tons and tons 76 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,680 of reporting so many people. You know, you you look at the book 77 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,240 and you think, I know, I know, I probably know there is 78 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,839 everything there is to know about Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos. 79 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,319 But very deep in the reporting, like old reporting, especially, what we 80 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,639 do is we go back to the beginning, and so we did that with 81 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,399 Bill Gates, and we looked into how Microsoft was founded, and that showed, 82 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:25,240 of course that his father was and mother. Both Bill's father and mother 83 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:30,079 were hugely instrumental. They were huge power players in the state of Washington but 84 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,639 also nationally, and you start to figure out kind of like what makes these 85 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,720 guys tick. And so in the case of Bill Gates, his father was 86 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:43,439 a high powered attorney. He did a lot of intellectual property stuff. And 87 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,519 you see that through Microsoft's whole rise is like Bill Gates kind of comes up 88 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,319 with this licensing idea where we can sell the same product sort of over and 89 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,040 over and over. And that's really what the book shows moving forward. I 90 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,199 mean, things like paywalls. These guys want to put a paywall over your 91 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:04,240 entire life where you have to subscribe to just use your electric vehicle and you 92 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:10,319 have to pay monthly fees on an ongoing basis, and uh yeah, I 93 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:13,839 mean, you'd be shocked the number of things that are actually out there but 94 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:15,920 just sort of hard to find. And we've got tools, We've got some 95 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:20,160 really good tools. That help help us find things that are either scrubbed from 96 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:26,040 the Internet or buried deep in the corporate filings. But yeah, it's it's 97 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:30,160 a it's a daunting endeavor. It's not easy. And to what extent are 98 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:32,600 you know, for instance, you're looking at Bill Gates, George Sharros, 99 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Warren Buffett, Rockefellers. To what extent is this a concerted campaign? Are 100 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,240 some of these efforts concerted? Like for instance, you talk about population control, 101 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,759 you talk about funding sort of the empire of left wing causes that a 102 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:54,439 lot of people associate with George Soros. Is there, uh, collaboration, 103 00:07:55,319 --> 00:08:00,319 Is there an intentional kind of pooling of resources or is it that in so 104 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:05,759 many cases they tend to share common interests and so they just sort of naturally 105 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:13,000 go in these various directions. Well, it's it's definitely a bit of both. 106 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,879 But there is certainly a concerted agenda, concerted effort. They put it 107 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,279 out and they're very proud about it. So it's not you know, it's 108 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:24,319 not some conspiracy to say that they have this globalist agenda. You know, 109 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:30,319 they like Agenda twenty thirty. I mean the World Economic Forum, for example, 110 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,200 they do get together they do meet, it is very exclusive. It's 111 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,000 like this country club. You and I if we just showed up in Davos, 112 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,559 they would probably not let us in. And so but then they put 113 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,879 out, you know, videos like it's all the highlight reels and all the 114 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:50,679 good stuff about how they're saving the planet and they're doing what's best for humanity. 115 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:56,759 But you can still see that some of the things that they say is 116 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:01,080 best for humanity is not what's best for humanity. And you mention the population 117 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:05,440 control. So really the book kicks off in chapter one with this meeting. 118 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,080 I mean some have heard of it, a lot of people have not. 119 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,200 And it's called the Good Club, I mean right in the name. They 120 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,559 thought, well, you know what, you think they could come up with 121 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,200 something a little more creative than the Good Club. But it's this meeting that 122 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,360 takes place. It's in May two thousand and nine, and it's supposed to 123 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,799 be a secret meeting, but details of it leak out, and you'd be 124 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:31,039 shocked because to have it's a meeting of Bill Gates. I believe he's the 125 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:37,440 one who can He convened the meeting in partnership with George Soros, David Rockefeller, 126 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:41,000 it's at the Rockefeller University in New York. It's at the President's House, 127 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:46,519 and so it's there's about fifteen other billionaires there. I mean, Oprah 128 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,159 Winfrey is there, Ted Turner is there. And this you know, if 129 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:56,519 you the context around it is Obama has just been elected president. They got 130 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:03,000 their guy in, and so what like, what do we want members of 131 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:05,840 this so called Good Club want to pool our resources to do. We've all 132 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:09,240 got pet PEP priorities, pet projects. You know, some of us like 133 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:16,200 climate change, some of us like abortion and birth control and women's health type 134 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,559 stuff. And Bill Gates is the one who proposes, well, the umbrella 135 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:24,440 cause they call it the umbrella cause that kind of unites all of our causes 136 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:31,080 is overpopulation, the idea that there are too many people on this planet and 137 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,759 there's going to be certainly too many, way too many people in just a 138 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:37,840 few years. I mean around that time, there were six billion, and 139 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,120 they say we're headed for nine billion, and then the earth simply can't sustain 140 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,279 that number of people. And so out of this Good Club meeting, you 141 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:52,440 see a lot of funding from the Bill, like the Bill and will Inda 142 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Gates and all these other foundations they start funding too, I mean to a 143 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,279 much greater degree. They've been funding it for decades, but things like abortion 144 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,720 and birth control, we need to increase the access, We need to increase 145 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:09,399 the messaging on these issues. And you see that they've done a pretty good 146 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:16,159 job messaging on those issues. Yeah, definitely. Climate in particular is so 147 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:24,559 interesting because it's you see a lot of I guess, laptop liberal protesters defacing 148 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:28,559 art et cetera, et cetera, and a lot of this is being funded 149 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,000 by extremely wealthy sort of global figures who want things to unfold that way, 150 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:39,039 but maybe publicly aren't willing to take radical steps themselves. I mean, the 151 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,639 private jets is what everybody always talks about. How do they see this issue 152 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,919 of climate? And I guess the bigger context there is how do they see 153 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:52,399 this issue of capitalism versus socialism? I imagine they think their climate efforts are 154 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:58,039 just capitalism, but in reality, it seems to me like it's a huge 155 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,039 amount of cronyism and sort of social democratic meddling. Yeah, that is exactly 156 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,519 right. What's really interesting, and I lay it out all in the book, 157 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,600 is that each of the billionaires, each of these characters, they have 158 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:18,039 all been major financiers of the most polluting technologies and industries imaginable. George Soros, 159 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:20,840 for example, for example, huge investor in coal. You know, 160 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,799 Tom Steier, huge investor in coal. Even Michael Bloomberg, you know he 161 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,320 invests in natural gas as he's trying to ban the coal plant. So they 162 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:35,200 sort of moved all of their investments into these new technologies. And it's something 163 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,279 that is a little esoteric, but it's really critical, is the idea of 164 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:46,639 patents. A patent gives you a twenty year long monopoly on whatever product you're 165 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:52,000 selling. And so a lot of the fossil fuel industries, the patents have 166 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,720 run out. I mean, the Rockefellers are a central character in chapter one. 167 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:58,720 They found at Standard Oil there is no better oil man than John D. 168 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,679 R Akkafeller. And so for a century they built in a massive fortune. 169 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,200 You know, it's incalculable to a degree because it's just so spread out, 170 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:13,960 but many tens of billions of dollars. And then it's only they only 171 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:20,480 these billionaires only divest, these progressive billionaires only divest from their fossil fuels after 172 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:26,399 they've secured investments into the new patented, you know, the solar and the 173 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,399 wind and the green energy companies. Bill Gates has a nuclear power Tearra Power 174 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:37,120 company. They're highly regulated, which means very high barriers to entry. You 175 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:43,120 can't just there are no wildcatters or jed clampets who can go out and strike 176 00:13:43,159 --> 00:13:46,120 it rich in the nuclear power or the wind or the solar industry. So 177 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,440 the book, you know, makes the case that it's really not about saving 178 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,399 the planet, it's about dominating the energy. I mean, the energy industry 179 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,440 globally is a trillion dollar industry. If you can corner that into industry and 180 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:05,840 just have a few market players, I mean you're set for life for many 181 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:11,679 generations. And so it's the same thing too with the food industry. You 182 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,000 know, each chapter kind of goes through the energy industry, the healthcare industry, 183 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:18,759 the food industry. When I talk about these patents, it's kind of 184 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:22,679 like think about drugs. Like a generic medicine is very cheap. You can 185 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,120 get the generic for very low cost. The name brand, however, you 186 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,720 know, eighty dollars a pill versus two dollars a pill. So oil and 187 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:35,600 gas are the generic, solar and wind are the name brand. Controlled technology 188 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:41,519 same thing with the food. Cows are, you know, a very efficient 189 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:46,679 way to provide protein to a lot of people. That's so when Alexandria Ocasio 190 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,279 Cortes goes out and says that cow flatulence is going to kill the planet, 191 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:56,720 that actually comes from like a white paper, you know, cooked up at 192 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:01,960 the World Economic Forum or the Bill and Melendic Gates Foundation that says, yeah, 193 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,519 we need to eliminate beef. I mean, I believe Ireland either this 194 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,120 week or coming soon, is about to slaughter tens of thousands of their cattle 195 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,720 for climate change. It's going to actually cost them a ton of money to 196 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:22,440 do so, and so it's sort of insane. But Bill Gates only starts 197 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,840 talking about how the emissions from livestock is a problem after he has secured investments 198 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:35,679 into companies like Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods and these alternative protein companies that they 199 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,200 claim are much more sustainable. But actually, if you look at the amount 200 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:45,879 of energy it takes to produce a lab grown meat hamburger, it's an enormous 201 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:52,919 amount of energy. It's actually not more efficient than cattle. 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And that's been sort of weird 226 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,319 for a lot of people, I think, since the pandemic to look around 227 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,720 and say all of these uh, sort of power grabs were just happening in 228 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:02,079 plain sight. So I the question I want to ask Seamus this how they're 229 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,319 how these billionaires approach the media, How they approach the importance that they, 230 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:11,440 you know, exert some control over the media. But also is it possible 231 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,599 that the media is just sort of their useful idiots. It's it's kind of 232 00:18:15,599 --> 00:18:18,400 a combination of both, that they the media is sort of too insulated and 233 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:22,880 optues to even put two and two together. Now, yeah, that's exactly 234 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,559 right. I mean, it's the media. There's a chapter on media control, 235 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,559 and you know, and how it's been a very controlled industry since since 236 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:34,160 the dawn of time. I mean, there's just it's hard. It's hard 237 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,400 to you can't own a printing press. It's expensive to own a printing press. 238 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:44,319 And and moving forward, but and I and I, you know, 239 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:48,160 you show how things you feel like you're getting crazier. It's because the information 240 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,119 is getting freer. And you see that in the Twitter files. You know, 241 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,640 with the dawn of the Internet, it made it so that more information 242 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,359 could be accessible to more people. And you see this clamping down on it. 243 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,279 So there's still just about six companies who own ninety percent plus of the 244 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,759 legacy media, and those are all owned and you know, we go into 245 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,880 black Rock and Vanguard and State Street and they're all owned by people who go 246 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,880 to the World Economic Forum. So they're all sort of on the same page, 247 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:21,160 reading the same script. But now with big tech, you would think 248 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,200 that, you know, information should be able to get out to more people. 249 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,720 The big tech companies are clamping down big time. And trying to stop 250 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:33,039 that. And so yeah, I mean the Twitter files, but it's it's 251 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:37,240 still going on even with Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter. You know you saw 252 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,440 Mark Zuckerberg has now made Threads, and it provided a place where people can 253 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:48,640 avoid seeing uncensored content and the free flow of information. So the battle, 254 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,880 the battle continues. And how do you think they see themselves. I'm sort 255 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,599 of fascinated by that question because if you look at like a Warren Buffett, 256 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,559 you know, it seems to me that was exactly what he's doing. And 257 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:07,240 there's a lot of cynicism involved in his strategy when it comes to railroads, 258 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:12,680 media, whatever it is, cronyism, there's just some intentionality, and it's 259 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,680 almost cynical to look at it that way. When I think about a Bill 260 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:22,359 Gates, I see someone who's or like a Lorine Pollo Jobs. I see 261 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,799 people that are ideologues that are almost this. A lot of people use the 262 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,480 kind of nineteen sixties framework, the boomer framework, when they look at billionaires. 263 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:33,839 Helen Andrews touched on that in her book on Boomers. There's just an 264 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:40,559 idealism or a naivete. But I also don't want to ascribe to these powerful 265 00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:45,160 billionaires naivete So Seamus having dug into them, what do you think their motives 266 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,079 are? And how do you think they see themselves? Do they really see 267 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:52,960 themselves as the good guys here? Yes, they do see themselves as the 268 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,519 good guys, but there's certainly a touch of elitism to it and a certain 269 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,880 you know, like, you know, you and I don't know really what's 270 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,680 best for the planet in the same way Bill Gates does. And so you 271 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,160 know, while on the one hand, I think that, you know, 272 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:15,720 they do believe that they're doing good, they're also I mean some of them, 273 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,839 you know, they're all different, but some of them have god complexes, 274 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:25,119 like on steroids and Joseph Weizenbaum, I believe he's a mit like computer 275 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:32,200 science professor actually writes about the the god complex of the Silicon Valley elite, 276 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:37,039 because you know, computer programmers they build these worlds, digital worlds, and 277 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:42,119 they sort of see themselves as the gods of their own worlds, and then 278 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,079 they think, well, why can't I do that in society. I've created 279 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,079 this amazing thing, this amazing product, and when I turn the dials, 280 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:55,920 the thing that, you know, everything falls into place and things do what 281 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,359 I want now, I'll do that to society. And the truth is they 282 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,599 don't know what's best for society. So that's where maybe some naivete comes in. 283 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:07,759 In the World Economic Form, guys, I don't know if you've ever 284 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:12,240 talked about you've all know a Harari, but yeah, yeah, you know, 285 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:15,279 there's a lot of that going on where they think, you know, 286 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:21,880 the peasants will never be able to rise up, and there's going to be 287 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,279 in the future a new class I mean, the AI revolution that's coming currently 288 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,960 underway. I mean it's interesting you kind of have always thought of this AI 289 00:22:32,079 --> 00:22:34,720 future as often the distant future, and one day we'll know when we get 290 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:41,400 there. It's happening all around you right now. The biotechnological upgrades. There's 291 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,599 a lot on the brain microchip, which again sounds like conspiracy theory, but 292 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,160 it's all right out there. I mean Elon Musk's Neuralink company has just received 293 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:55,160 FDA approval earlier this year for human trials. There's at least ten thousand humans 294 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,000 who have had microp chips implanted in their brains, and so Harari and the 295 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:03,799 World Economic Forum types and Davos think that there will be a new class of 296 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,039 humans, those who can afford to have these micro chip upgrades. And it 297 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:11,920 starts with, you know, curing paralysis. That's what the ostensible purposes of 298 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:18,279 neuralink are. But then Musk shows with the monkeys that it look you can 299 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:23,359 send psychic text messages and you can play video games with your brain, and 300 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,359 so you know, I'm not a scientist, so I don't know how accurate 301 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,960 that is, but the video looks pretty compelling, and Musk says that the 302 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,279 monkeys are rewarded with banana smoothies. A Reuter's investigation actually found that thousands of 303 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,200 these test subjects had to be euthanized because the monkeys were chewing off their fingers 304 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,279 and bashing their heads against the cage. Is pretty gruesome stuff. And I'm 305 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:55,200 just wondering if the human test subjects will also be given banana smoothies a small 306 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,519 reward, Seamus, What do you make of Musk actually, because he does 307 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:00,480 strike me as somebody who was kind of old in the Harari camp. But 308 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,640 to be in the Harari camp, there's sort of an eccentricity that would mean 309 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:10,319 you also are curious and skeptical and in twenty twenty three, when he bought 310 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,920 Twitter in twenty twenty two. It makes sense that an eccentric person would look 311 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,119 around at the censorship, and someone of the sort of American tech communities libertarian 312 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:26,200 ethos would be aghast and motivated to preserve some semblance of freedom. At the 313 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,720 same time, he's a heavy investor in neurallink In. Obviously, Tesla in 314 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:37,799 and of itself is trying to put a lot of the is trying to dramatically 315 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,759 change the transportation around the world and in the United States. What do you 316 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,240 make of him? Well, I applaud Elon Musk for his takeover of Twitter 317 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:52,240 and turning it into a much more free speech platform. And he certainly is 318 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:56,680 eccentric. I mean, I believe he posted yesterday meme of a Hayak quote, 319 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,720 so I applaud that, but it was overlaid over a girl in a 320 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,480 bikini. I was like, this guy is he's it's hard to pin him 321 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:10,880 down, but we dug into his background and his family background, and his 322 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,759 grandfather was one of the founders of founding members of Technocracy Inc. In Canada, 323 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:22,359 and so technocracy is, you know, a system where the scientific and 324 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,000 the engineering elite rule. It's not a democratic system. There will be no 325 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:32,759 voting in your technocratic leaders, and so's he does have that, he's got 326 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,759 the vein of tech technocrat in him. I think time will tell you know 327 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:41,519 if he If neuralink only cures people with paralysis, then that would be great 328 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:45,160 and I would applaud that. However, if it turns into a tool of 329 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,480 you know, beaming VR porn right into your brain stem and keeping you in 330 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:53,920 your home, kind of like Ready Player one or some sort of dystopian future, 331 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,960 then I think we should be very wary. Yeah. I mean, 332 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,559 just yesterday, the speaking of this sort of paralysis question, just yesterday, 333 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,799 what happened in the House with Thomas Massey's kill switch amendment, all in the 334 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,960 name of drunk driving, all in the name of preventing death to drunk driving. 335 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,799 So there's always that greater cause that makes it seem so much more palatable 336 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,920 to people who don't have time to pay attention to the ins and outs of 337 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,240 all of this stuff. And that actually is another question I just wanted to 338 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:27,839 ask you so badly about why Jack Dorsey was giving all of this money to 339 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,799 BLM, for example, and he was not alone an openly Marxist organization was 340 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,079 raking in corporate cash, and to some extent it seemed obvious that the guys 341 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,720 knew that they were giving money to an openly Marxist organization because they cared more 342 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:49,200 about the pr They saw it as just an easy pr initiative, and you 343 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,240 know, maybe the Marxism would never really come to pass. We don't have 344 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,279 to worry about it. These are just silly little hippies that are messing around. 345 00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,880 But we can, you know, look good by giving the money, 346 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,440 not to worry about anything else. But what does explain so much of the 347 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:07,599 For instance Soro so I know, he's kind of in a league of his 348 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,000 own with some of the stuff. Gates giving money to organizations that fundamentally want 349 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:17,920 to destroy free enterprise. Well, at the same time, people like Warren 350 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,519 Buffett paying lip service to the importance of American free enterprise? Are they intentionally 351 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,480 undermining the capitalist system? Are they too dumb to realize it? Is it 352 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,720 all just pr Where do we how should we think about them approaching those issues? 353 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,519 Yeah, that's right, it's openly marx As. It was also totally 354 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,759 fraudulent, and it was pretty obvious from the get go. But yeah, 355 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,079 if you look at BLM's early sort of manifesto, I mean, abolishing the 356 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,039 nuclear family was on there, and certainly that has been a priority of progressive 357 00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:56,680 funding going back to the sixties. The transgender and I mean we get into 358 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:03,640 doctor John Money, who was this John's hop Hopkins scientist who had this experiment 359 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,799 where two twin boys, one of them had a you know, tragedy at 360 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:11,759 birth that left him disfigured, and John Money said, well, why don't 361 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,160 you just cut it off and raise him as a female, And so the 362 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,480 twins were raised one boy, one girl, and John many Money and not 363 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:26,559 enough people know about him, but he's the person who coined things like transgenderism 364 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:30,160 as a term. Another doctor doctor Kinsey, and people have heard of the 365 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,920 Kinsey scale. He was very heavily funded by the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers very 366 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:41,039 openly boast of funding the sexual revolution, which has had you know, pretty 367 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,880 bad effects, some might say. And I think there's layers to it, 368 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480 so on on, you know, on the surface layer, there are plenty 369 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,519 of people who are true believers that think these causes are important. BLM, 370 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,960 the LGBTQ stuff, and then below that maybe there would be Well it's just 371 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,279 a kind of a pr move maybe, and you know, if we don't 372 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,880 do it, they're going to come after us. But then I think deeper 373 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,599 and more insidious than that is. Actually there is an assault on the nuclear 374 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:14,119 family. And like the transgender I mean, we got this memo that was 375 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,519 put out, it was funded by the Rockefeller Foundation in coordination with Planned Parenthood, 376 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:25,960 called the Jaffy Memo, and promoting LGBTQ stuff was seen as a way 377 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,839 to lower birth rates. I mean, if you castraight children, they're never 378 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,799 going to reproduce. And so underneath it all, it brings us back to 379 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,400 the Good Club meeting where overpopulation. They a lot of these guys are Malthusian. 380 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,759 They think the Earth is overpopulated. And Musk, by the way, 381 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,319 I would applaud him because he's one of the only voices out there that's saying, 382 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:49,400 actually, no, the Earth isn't overpopulated. There's more than enough resources. 383 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:55,200 We could triple the population worldwide. You know, we did find multiple 384 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,359 studies that found that the entire population eight billion people could fit on like the 385 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,359 island of New Zealand if they lived is densely populated as people do in Manhattan. 386 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:08,440 So not that anybody would want to all live eight billion people on New 387 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,799 Zealand, but there's there's plenty of space, there are plenty of resources. 388 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,400 The one resource that they always fail to take into account when they say we're 389 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:22,400 running out of resources is human ingenuity. And there was that famous debate that 390 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,599 was, you know, the population bomb, where you know, Paul Erlick 391 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,359 says that we're going to run out of everything, and the Simon Erlick wager 392 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920 where it says, Okay, if Erlick, if you're right we're running out 393 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,839 of resources, then everything we will pick four commodities, they'll go They'll absolutely 394 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,759 go up in price. In the next decade they went down in price. 395 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:45,880 So human ingenuity will always find new ways to find new resources. But they 396 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,759 do still to this day, believe that the Earth is overpopulated. So I 397 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:56,119 think that kind of you know, nuclear families produce children, and then deeper 398 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:03,440 even under than that, And Tucker Carlson talks about this is getting women into 399 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:08,400 the workforce, having people not want to go home and stay with their family 400 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,960 or take care of their kids. It's actually a more productive workforce. You 401 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,160 know, you have more people working more of the time, so Blackrock. 402 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,000 For example, in the Wall Street banks, do they really support women's issues 403 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:26,920 or do they just want women in the workplace. So we get into all 404 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:33,759 of that. The Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 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And actually, speaking of 413 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:08,359 Tucker, he made a point about the kind of the so called robber barons 414 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,920 of the Gilded Age, and you can you think back to the Rockefeller family 415 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,079 obviously. One thing I always think about is the Apple store in downtown DC. 416 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:22,279 It's in Mount Vernon Square and Steve Jobs. It's an old Carnegie Library 417 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:28,000 and Steve Jobs, not Steve Jobs, Tim Cook put a ton of money 418 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,920 into revitalizing it, remodeling it, and he turned it into an Apple store. 419 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:38,960 And it's just this amazing symbol of contrast, I think, between prior 420 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:44,200 eras of ultra wealthy people and the current era of ultra wealthy people, which 421 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:49,000 sees everything, even their charity, as a sort of business expense. And 422 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,319 I'm sure that was true with some of the Robber Barons to in fact, 423 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,359 I know it is true of some of the Rocker parents. But when it 424 00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:58,599 comes to their charitable giving, it seems to me like so much of the 425 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,359 Bill Gates and George store is actually political. So when they're talking about women 426 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,720 in Africa, that's political. When they're talking about it, all sort of 427 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,279 comes back to this broader ideological worldview that's sort of easy for them to greenwash 428 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:19,279 or whatever it is. How I mean, do they give significant money to 429 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,759 causes that everyone can agree on? That sounds like a ridiculous and naive question, 430 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:30,000 but I actually do wonder what they're so the breakdown of their charitable giving 431 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,119 looks like because it seems to me like it all goes back to the ideology. 432 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,799 Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, if you were to make 433 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,519 a pie chart of their giving, certainly they give to you know, some 434 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:45,079 library or some school, and you know, without looking at all, you 435 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:50,079 know, there's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of individual grants without 436 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,119 looking at all of them. But I looked at enough of them in the 437 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,559 libraries and school you wish they would just build a beautiful library. Right. 438 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,799 But now like the school giving, Yeah, it's like lap tops that have 439 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:06,440 new software that is like social and social emotional learning and like ways to program 440 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,039 children. It's not just like a here like we're going to fund the school 441 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,320 lunches. It's here, we're going to fund the school lunches. And why 442 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,559 don't you guys try the cricket cricket based proteins or at least you know a 443 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,480 lot of soy in the diet, so every you know, even the things 444 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,920 on the surface level that look like, oh good, they're helping kids or 445 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,519 they're helping hospitals, you know, it's there's there's something deeper underneath it. 446 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:36,039 In nine out of ten cases, my last question shaves. This is so 447 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,639 fascinating, but I also just wanted to get your take on where people go 448 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,280 where you think people go too far? So for all of the obvious uh 449 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,920 reality, now that some of these conspiracy theories, like what's the meme about 450 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Alex Jones, Like it turned out to be right about the frogs being gay? 451 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,920 Whatever it is, there's just like, you know, it seems like 452 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,119 a lot of this thing stuff has become much more open and obvious to everyone. 453 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:07,760 Klaus Schwab's basically saying all the previously quiet parts out loud now. But 454 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,440 where do you think people who look at these issues and you know, are 455 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,519 maybe ahead of the curve and you know, realizing that these are kind of 456 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:22,400 grand conspiracies and unthinkable ways, where are the areas where, having studied this 457 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,880 really closely, you think maybe people push too far. I don't know if 458 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,400 it's like, is there a particular theory, is there a particular I guess 459 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,760 mistake people make when looking at this in a way that's too conspiratorial, or 460 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,960 is the worst all like totally true and just you know they really are trying 461 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,119 to turn the frogs guy, Yeah, that's how funny meme Like what's the 462 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:50,119 difference or what's what is a conspiracy theorist? It's like someone who figures out 463 00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:55,039 the truth a couple of years early. So I mean they published, they 464 00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:00,599 published their plans openly. I mean, just just last week there was this 465 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,239 un event that Bill Gates was a participant of as a UN sponsored event the 466 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,199 Rockefeller Foundation co sponsored, and it was all about digital ID and how it's 467 00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:15,119 called fifty in fifty we're going to have fifty countries. I'm sorry, fifty 468 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:21,079 within fifty in five fifty countries in five years will implement a digital ID regime. 469 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,280 And so one of the digital I you know, make the case that 470 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:28,719 digital ID and a digital currency are like the end. You know, once 471 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,079 they that's that's a Chinese style social credit score. If you posted something bad, 472 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,840 your digital ID is linked to your digital currency. I mean they've talked 473 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:43,239 about how they can make a digital currency you have an expiration date. So 474 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:49,159 I think that. But once these plans are revealed and once enough people push 475 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,400 back, they relent. They you know, they go back the World Economic 476 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,599 Forum, people go back to the drawing board like okay, maybe maybe another 477 00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,840 five years. So you saw it was like Agenda twenty one turned into the 478 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,760 Millennium Development Goals and people with Alex Jones or you know whoever. We're freaking 479 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,039 out about Agenda twenty one back in the nineties, and then they changed the 480 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:13,480 name and they rebranded it to the Millennium Development Goals. That was by two 481 00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:19,000 thousand, that got a rebrand to the Sustainable Development Goals which have now been 482 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,679 rolled into this plan called Agenda twenty thirty. And you can go look it 483 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,199 all up, I mean Agenda twenty thirty. Yeah, certainly you'll find a 484 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:30,920 bunch of conspiracy theory websites, but I encourage you to read the actual websites, 485 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,400 you know, the UN's website on what they are planning to do. 486 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480 The plans are all out in the open, and once enough people realize that, 487 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,199 you know, spread the word to tell your friends and family. Without 488 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,400 you got to know the facts. You always have to be armed with the 489 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,280 facts and be conversant in the issue. Nobody's really on board with a lot 490 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,199 of these things, I mean they and so the only the only hope we 491 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,079 have is to wake up our friends and family to what's going on around us. 492 00:37:57,559 --> 00:37:59,960 Yeah, it's funny to think about it because again one of the reasons 493 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,840 that I love throw them all out, and I mean all of those books 494 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:10,440 actually is that there's there's some clear cynical competence and then sometimes there's so much 495 00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:15,239 incompetence and you may feel the same way as Shamous, But having done this 496 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,320 and Ben and DC for over a decade, it's it's like, obviously way 497 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,440 more like Veep than West Wing. And so many times people say something as 498 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,960 a conspiracy and it's actually just like the people running our government and our business 499 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,800 sector sector are idiots, like they're incompetent. So I guess that's that's my 500 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,960 actual last question, Seamus, is what you take is on how some of 501 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,559 this actually does occasionally come down to just incompetence even that even still though it 502 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:45,400 seems like you know, you you dug into this and it really is a 503 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,440 thirty thousand foot kind of master vision of how the world should look. Yeah, 504 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,480 that's right. I mean that. So, you know, I took 505 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,800 about eight books before I realized that the daily food fights going on in Congress 506 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,320 and what today I say today or you know what Scavin do. So I 507 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,159 mean that you can can ever confusing competence with conspiracy. There's also a lot 508 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:10,880 of laziness in the government, so when they get handed beautifully drafted very smart 509 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,559 sounding white paper. They will just take that and run with it. And 510 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,360 when everybody is around them is running with it, they all get on the 511 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,679 same page. So the conspiracy certainly isn't happening in Congress and is not even 512 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,519 a conspiracy because it's out in the open. But that's why we followed the 513 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:30,119 money to the top and really found out really, I mean, Schweizer calls 514 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:34,679 this the playbook for the next five years, and so that's what it is. 515 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,960 It's the people above Congress who are feeding Congress and the politicians the talking 516 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,800 points. You saw it with the pandemic. I mean, the pandemic wasn't 517 00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,559 you know, the lockdowns and the mass mandates that didn't come from the government. 518 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:51,320 The government doesn't do any really good studying. That's all funded by Bill 519 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,039 and Melinda Gates Foundation type organizations who then hand all of your local officials like, 520 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,360 oh here, look, masking really works. And you know people with 521 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,320 the comments that are like how does a mask prevent you know, air? 522 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,960 I mean, I can see my breath in the cold coming all around the 523 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,679 mass. So it's not Congress who's making all these making all these plans. 524 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:15,440 They're just kind of being handed the script and reading from it, which is 525 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,159 exactly what you mentioned about the Green New Deal, just Lands and Alexander Ocossio 526 00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,000 Cortez a sort of deucfolidiat lap and ends up becoming Yeah, that makes sense. 527 00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:25,920 You can make a name for yourself and it's safe. You know. 528 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,639 It's like if you've got the backing of I mean, the characters in this 529 00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:34,159 book have over a trillion dollar net worth combined, you know, personal net 530 00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:37,280 worth over one trillion dollars. That's some pretty powerful backing. So if they 531 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,519 hand you something to read, you know that you've got a lot of defense 532 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,639 when you go out on a limb, as some of them do. Yeah, 533 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,199 no, that makes sense. Well. The book is once again called 534 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,840 Control of Arcs, exposing the billionaire class, their secrets, their secret deals, 535 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,519 and the globaliss plot to dominate your life. It's out November fourteenth. 536 00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:00,320 It's available for pre order before that. Shamus, thank you so much much 537 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,480 for joining us and sharing some of your research here. Always a pleasure. 538 00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,039 Emily, thank you. Of course you've been listening to another edition of The 539 00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,800 Federalist Radio Hour. I'mm. L. A. Dashinski, culture editor here 540 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,960 at the Federalist we'll be back soon with more. Until then, be lovers 541 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:24,199 of freedom and anxious for the fray. I heard the fame boy the reason, 542 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,960 and then it faded away.