1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,240 Alright, so now if you want to to in case you don't want anything, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,639 but I guess that we're not gonna be talking about any spoiler stuff. 3 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:08,519 We're gonna be talking about stuff that is out there and stuff but nothing because 4 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:10,359 I don't even think that's out there. But we're gonna be talking about this 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,320 big insamnac Wolverine leaks. I would say there's spoilers involved in this. I 6 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:20,480 mean yeah, but I it's I guess for me, it's just like with 7 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:24,399 the character roster being out there, Like I get it, it is a 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,719 spoiler, but to me, it's not like, ah, man, that's 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,039 ruined the game for me, you know, like like I don't think there's 10 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:32,159 anything that's ruined the game for me. If anything, like it did make 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,039 me more except but like, what do you what do you know about this 12 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:37,520 this league so far? Have you watched all the footage, looked at all 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,359 the Discord stuff? Have you where have you been on it? I've looked 14 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:44,759 through the Discord stuff. Yes, good, And that's pretty much the extent, 15 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:47,920 honest. I didn't really dig too much deeper than that. But uh, 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,880 even that was like, holy shit, there's a lot to chew on. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,320 I need to pace myself here. Yeah, what do you think about 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,479 just the in game stuff? First, I'm curious, uh the like footage 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,320 of I guess yeah, well, I guess there was there footage of Gene. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,680 I just saw, like the space footage of Gene. Ok, she's 21 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:07,879 for sure playable character. So our MJ missions and Wolverine are gonna be Gene 22 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,079 Gray missions, which I think are a Now you're gonna have a magic, 23 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:17,840 telekinetic floating character in low stealth character and they can actually fight massive step up 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,680 to me. Yeah, I mean, of course it's very early, rough 25 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,040 footage that is missing a lot of art and whatnot from what I've seen, 26 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:27,920 so obviously in that way, it's like, yeah, I mean it doesn't 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:34,239 look amazing, but I I am very excited for what we have cooking in 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,400 the next few years with Insomniac. I guess I'll put it that way. 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,519 But yeah, I gotta go this Gene footage because that I want to see 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,959 that. In part that's because I don't think I need to see videos of 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,079 what like Wolverine looks like. You have to know, like I already have 32 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:49,239 one hundred ccent faith, but like, I gotta see what this gene gray 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,000 stuff looks like so I'm more curious on that. So how did that look? 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,920 The magic and whatnot? It looks good. She's popping off some purple 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,959 magic. She was fighting off multiple enemies. She had like projectiles and stuff, 36 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:01,879 and yeah, she was I think floating a little. So it looked 37 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:06,120 good. I'm all of it look good to me. I love. People 38 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,439 are kind of comparing it. They said it looked like a Arkham Asylum meets 39 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:13,199 God a War, And I think we had talked about before where God of 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,199 War might be a good template for them where it's minor the open world but 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,680 not really it's a to and from and it looks like it's that it has 42 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:24,479 stuff like the Batman thing. It fits for Wolverine where Batman has the Tech 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,240 division. He is like smell a vision where he's going around and smelling stuff 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,000 and that's like leading the traces, Like that's really cool. Some of the 45 00:02:31,039 --> 00:02:36,439 action, Like it's kind of like what you said were because in saw me 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,560 I trust him, but it was like a reaffirming of oh, this just 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,840 looks like when it looks like it's gonna be if this to me looks good 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,199 when we get the found product. This is gonna be great, Like this 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,919 looks exactly like everything I wanted from there, and which I mean, yeah, 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,240 I didn't like, would anyone have any doubts? Like in Somac has 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,960 just been absolutely crushing it for years at this point, So yeah, yeah, 52 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:58,159 I feel like we had a one hundred percent faith. It's just it's 53 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:01,560 cool to see other characters guess because that's the stuff we didn't really know about. 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,879 Well, that's that's what I was going to ask you. What do 55 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:07,840 you want? Do you want to talk about the rumored lineup or do you 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:14,599 want to talk about the rumored game lineup? First? Maybe? Oh man, 57 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:19,960 maybe start with the game lamp. So the gene thing's interesting because so 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,960 the supposed roadmap came out and that's where you know it's out there, and 59 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,400 so so far it sounds like we're getting Venom twenty twenty five, which is 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 a far way way. But I think that's just like a Miles Morales equivalent, 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,319 where a smaller game can I this is a spoiler conversation, Sure, 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Spider Man. Two question, I Venom, he's playable in that game? 63 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:45,560 I've guessing Spider Man absolutely, yes, Okay, what fantastic. I can't 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,319 wait for you to play it. They like hit it. They hit home 65 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:52,000 run with the whole sequence. You do a boss fight sequence, so it's 66 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,520 just like one part or it is around the open world with him afterwards. 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,560 No, you could. They fixed it. There was a bug where you 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,159 could escape and going over the world. But it's like a really put together 69 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:06,240 sequence. But it's not like a cut time sequence. It's a full level, 70 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,039 but you're as Venom, but you there's also a boss flight like you 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,000 fight another big Spiderman film as Venom, and it's a really sad. So 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,439 it doesn't sound like you were like, oh shit, man, they should 73 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,040 have like had him as a full playable character. That doesn't sound like you're 74 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,360 disappointed by the implementation, even if I was limited. I wanted that. 75 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:25,079 But I think because we're in the post Miles Moareuse world, I just thought 76 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:29,199 this Venom game is not a surprise. I thought we're gonna get that eventually, 77 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,199 so to be playing as them. They nailed that, and the sequence 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,439 to me actually went on longer than I thought it was gonna go. I 79 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:36,560 thought it would just be a slice and like like an MJ mission, it's 80 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:42,040 it's much longer than an hour one hour. No, No, it's probably 81 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,399 it. It I feel like I'm building it up. It's probably shorter than 82 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:48,279 that, but it's just that I'd say it's like an MJ mission times too, 83 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,160 so the way she's but it just like it it it feels so spoof, 84 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,920 like as Venom, it's like everything you want, Like how he complained 85 00:04:55,959 --> 00:05:00,279 about ultimate lines, like he doesn't feel like that's like he's so it's so 86 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:03,040 fun. It's like a dream come true as that. So okay, So 87 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,240 yeah, that's that's well, And that's not the first thing up. I 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,040 guess the first thing up is Spider Man two multiplayer or whatever online. I 89 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,319 guess, yeah, because that they're back and forth. Yeah, and that's 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,759 where people don't know if it's a for sure thing happening. But yeah, 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,639 I think it goes SPERMNT two online and then the Venom game, which I'm 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,920 really curious about the like, is Speriment two online just you can just swing 93 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,360 around your friends and do things at the same time. I don't think, 94 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:34,600 so, I know, would not be something that they just have happened at 95 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:40,639 launch, Like what is it? What is I don't know, Like I 96 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,439 just don't see them doing like six months later, you can now play the 97 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,800 game and co op. I think it's gotta be. I don't think it's 98 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,439 versus though. So the only thing I can think of is like, I 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,800 feel like it's like a Ghost of Sashima Legends. Oh my god. I 100 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,839 think it's like you and your you and your homies play these characters and you 101 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:00,839 battle against characters. I think, you know, look at what's been going 102 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:05,160 on Last of Us two. They did the remake Master whatever the hell, 103 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:08,399 and then they add like a rogue like mode in there, so it's like 104 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:11,439 kind of like this endless sort of thing. God of War just added that 105 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Valhalla DLC to Ragnarok, and I feel like that just makes a lot of 106 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,120 sense to do that kind of formula here with this where it's like you're you 107 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,399 go in and yeah, maybe it's like a wave based thing depending on mode 108 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:27,879 to mode, you know, a wave based thing like Legends has, or 109 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,120 just like here's a chunk of New York and here's like randomly generated enemies and 110 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,120 a boss fight or something like that. I feel like that's what it's got 111 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,079 to be, because I just I don't see them doing competitive multiplayer and I 112 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,519 think co op is I just don't. I don't know. Maybe for Spider 113 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:46,480 Man two they would, they could do that, like, oh, six 114 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:48,319 months later, here's this co op DLC. Then I think looking at the 115 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,319 rest of this road map where there's like a game and then the online game, 116 00:06:51,399 --> 00:06:55,959 then the online I don't think they would continuously do that. I think 117 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,360 I think it's got to be something a little bit more substantial, not necessarily 118 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:06,240 live service, but something that's more live service than just co op. Yeah, 119 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,000 the Ghost of Shashima Pitch, that's like that's a dream, which you 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,279 know in the new that was so fucking successful. That was so good and 121 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:18,160 it was a huge surprise too, or I'm trying to remember it announced like 122 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,480 either shortly after the game launched or like right before it launched, it like, 123 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:24,959 hey, later on we're doing this multiplayer. I think it was worth 124 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,240 it. It was a right yeah, and then it came out like three 125 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,360 or four months afterwards. Yeah, it wasn't that far in the New Year. 126 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,839 We should we should get back in there. I should. Yeah, 127 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:36,240 those are good times. Yeah, So that that'd be perfect, that that 128 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:39,800 would be all I need. I'd love it, give give and that makes 129 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,959 sense like around the city together too, you know, and that's small enough 130 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,439 scale where for Spider Man two, like you straight up just do it two 131 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:47,920 player, like it's just you, Like someone plays Peter, another player as 132 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:50,399 Miles. And then obviously, like years down the road, we get to 133 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,279 X Men and Wolverine and stuff. That's where you could break it out to 134 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:57,560 like the classic four player thing, and then who knows, maybe even more 135 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,959 X Men in the future. You get eight X Men, get seven of 136 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:03,160 your closest friends, and get the whole roster going. That's what I was 137 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:07,519 gonna say, like, because so that's the roadmap where it's supposedly which is 138 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,120 strange. It's yeah, Spiderman multiplayer, Venom Wolverine, which is rumored to 139 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,279 be twenty twenty six. So we got a buckle up, everybody. We 140 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:16,560 gotta we gotta ways to go, and that's just like the hopeful day. 141 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:22,800 And then there was a Wolverine online which was odd. And then the one 142 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,959 that to me is I don't want to get like Suicide Squad vibes, because 143 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,800 that was the jump from Batman to like Suicide Squad. But that was the 144 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,879 rumored game in twenty thirty. That's a long time way. But like, 145 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,399 that's what supposes deal league that they did show that x they signed a deal 146 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,360 to have X Men exclusive to Sony. X Men characters can be in a 147 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,240 situation where if they made like a Marvel Lines four, Wolverine could be in 148 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,440 that, but no one can go make Hey, Xbox can't make the Storm 149 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:54,159 game. But that's the idea that and saw me actually me making an X 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Men game, which I think is fucking crazy in my like that's I did 151 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,600 not have that on my Bengal hard and I still I would not believe it. 152 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:05,200 But the fact that obviously these leaks are like legit, legit, that's 153 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,679 I'm mind blown by that that that's even a concept they're thinking about, because 154 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,879 that's something completely different for them, like a team based game, like like 155 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:16,480 I don't know what it would be. I don't know what would be. 156 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,519 That's probably a whole side quest episode in itself that maybe we could do one 157 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,240 day, Like what would we build an X Men game? Well, I 158 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,279 mean I was gonna do when I thought when I thought, when I thought 159 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:30,840 X Men ninety seven was coming out in January, that was a cast I 160 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,240 had put in our calendar, you know, peek behind the curtain here that 161 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,559 we're still gonna do it even if there's this. Absolutely we're still going to 162 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,000 do a fictional X Men Legends three roster, but now we also have to 163 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,240 do this because that would obviously be a very different type of roster than something 164 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:45,480 like the X Men Legends would have. So yeah, first of all, 165 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,519 as a bummer, if like that'shy x Men Legends was maybe in the works, 166 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:50,440 but then it got like, I don't think that's actually the case, 167 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,399 but if it was, and then it got kind of killed because of this 168 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,879 exclusivity thing. But I mean, I guess Sony could still make X Men 169 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,279 Legends. But yeah, now we're getting beside the point. But yeah, 170 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,240 it is. It is crazy. But I also feel like they just seem 171 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:07,759 to be really building that, like the infrastructure for that, right, Like 172 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:11,000 Spider Man they make this one game in twenty eighteen, uh, and they 173 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,679 can really just iterate and keep building off of it. Build off that same 174 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,320 New York and get Miles Morales out there as a separate game, Get Spider 175 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Man Twohere you have two playable characters or I guess three, and then boom 176 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,919 you have the Venom thing. It's like they are just ramping themselves up for 177 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:28,279 that so much, and it feels like, well, we already know I 178 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:33,120 guess if because this Gene Gray stuff like that's of course part of like the 179 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Wolverine game. It's not part of the XCERA game, because the X Men 180 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,039 game is so far away, So like they're already laying the framework for that 181 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,080 down, because that's not just like Gene taking pictures with a camera like MG, 182 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,320 like, it's that's a full on move set. And maybe it's quite 183 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,840 as rpg'ed out as Wolverine's like getting five percent more damage on his claws or 184 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:54,759 something like that, but it's obviously in there, and that makes you wonder 185 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:58,440 what other characters could be in that game now. Hopefully I think Wolverine keep 186 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,200 it somewhat caned. Of course, and it is called Wolverine. Why would 187 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,519 they not just call it X Men if it's more than that? But yeah, 188 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:07,759 man, like it seems like they are laying down the framework for that, 189 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:11,000 especially if it's like Wolverine drops, you got the online thing come out 190 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,480 later, Maybe you have one or two more play work characters in there, 191 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,240 and then you're like only one or two away from an X Men roster at 192 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:18,279 that point, Like it just it makes so much sense, and I I 193 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:22,039 don't know. Also on this as like Rotchet and Clank, I don't worry. 194 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,720 I don't think you guys gonna have time for that. But then again, 195 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:28,320 they already did in this new gen like from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty 196 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,440 with Miles Morales to Ratchen Clank twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three Spider Man 197 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:37,200 two, like they insomniaual output is already insane. But I'm just so curious, 198 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,519 like would you with an X Men they would you have? How many 199 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:45,519 members would you have? I think it'd be relatively small. But I just 200 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,519 like it's different with Spider Man because it's like it's Miles and Peter that's too, 201 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,399 and even Venom it's just like one sequence in the game and then you 202 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,279 go back, like would the game work like that too, where it's you 203 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,799 know, let's say it's Storm, Jean, Scott and Wolverine and then the 204 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,759 game is, Okay, this is a Gene mission, this is Scott mission. 205 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:05,279 You can go back and forth. That would that be the way? 206 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,879 Even Wolverine it doesn't sound like it's working the same way, right, where 207 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,879 Spiderman's and open world game, Wolverine sounds like it's more God of War linear, 208 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,639 So I guess it might just be a new challenge for them, which 209 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:18,200 I'm always down. I just like I said, the Suicide Squad has scared 210 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,360 me because that was like I saw a studio be doing great solo player games 211 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,279 and then go to not that has to be multiplayer, but that's what they 212 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,320 kind of did, and it was you know, I don't think it's working 213 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,919 out for them. I mean, that's right. I think there's some maybe 214 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,840 just a different approach that Insomniac's taking here, where first of all, like, 215 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,080 yeah, they've spent now three Spider Man games to figure out what Spider 216 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,639 Man is as a gameplay system before they're jumping into this online thing. So 217 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:46,240 when they're jumping into Wolverine, that feels like, okay, from Wolverine to 218 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Wolverine Online, like that feels like a much shorter leap. But I I 219 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,840 don't know, I feel like they are taking a better approach to it by 220 00:12:54,879 --> 00:12:58,879 like kind of slowly building up into these things and are establishing this is what 221 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:03,519 Wolverine is as a game, and then we're gonna add online afterwards. I 222 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:07,399 feel like that's a better approach to me than the Marvel's Avengers approach or the 223 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,919 Suicide Squad approach, which is like built from the ground up as a live 224 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,360 service game. This does not seem like that. It seems like, how 225 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,559 can we take these great action adventure games that people already love, and how 226 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,840 can we let people play together with their friends because that is such a big 227 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:24,200 part of the superhero fantasy as a thing. So it seems like that was 228 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:30,720 the second step after making a really solid game and foundation to build upon. 229 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,000 So to me, it seems like a much better approach. Now there's also 230 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:39,039 that side of it where Sony has like really been trying to double down on 231 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:41,480 live service things, but then they also have canceled a bunch of them, 232 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:46,240 including Last which was just happened so and then like Jim Ryan's leaving PlayStation soon, 233 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:50,559 so who knows, maybe that whole life. Yeah, like that could 234 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,159 take a huge pivot here sooner rather than later. And I feel like it's 235 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,879 smart because I feel like we say with Avengers and Suicide Squad that maybe it 236 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,480 was just too late before they could really like, yeah it is, and 237 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,960 with the timing of how all this stuff has worked. Insomniac and Sony have 238 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:11,440 both damn they got a lot of insight from what Marvel's Avengers was and how 239 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:16,399 poorly that was executed, even though those character move sets were fantastic, right, 240 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,559 Like, that's not really what the issue was there, And so I 241 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,720 feel like they're taking it the right approach here, and so yeah, I 242 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,279 think they It helps that they've had that lesson Suicide Squad. You might look 243 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,440 at the calendar and think, oh, they had Marvels Avengers to learn from. 244 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,039 They have in hindsight they can maybe modify some things, but still that 245 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,559 game is being developed for fucking decade at this point, Like they didn't far. 246 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,000 It was a different world when that game started development than from when Wolverine, 247 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,120 I guess, Spider Man two, Wolverine Online, and then X Men 248 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:45,360 Online which hasn't even started yet. But I think all these things, I 249 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:48,759 just I guess I have so much faith in Insomniac to nail it. And 250 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,480 to me, they're taking like they're not taking huge leafs and swings, you 251 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:56,039 know, put intended on swings. They're just taking like one step out of 252 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:58,480 time. And I think they're like because of that they're going to pace themselves 253 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,639 well into what could be very successful online, and I don't know if if 254 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:07,840 it is just fucking legends, I'm happy with that. Uh yeah, Ghost 255 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:11,399 to stream of Legends, be clear, not X Yeah, they're doing they're 256 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,360 doing a beat down arcade type game, which I'd love to be with with 257 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Wolverine and X Men all that, Like that whole roguelike setup of just facing 258 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,759 random endies like that, you got the danger room like that just creates that. 259 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,240 You know, you can have any situation where you could bring in whatever 260 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,399 villain who even they don't even make sense in real life, but because they're 261 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:33,159 in the danger room when they're not real and like, that works, so 262 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,679 you could just have crazy combinations going against each other. That just seems like 263 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,039 too easy to do it that way. I hope it all happens, because 264 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,840 I can't wait seven years from now we're sitting down talking about a X Men 265 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:48,039 game. That that's that's that's those the days we dreamed for, you know, 266 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,720 a nice, big, huge Triple A studio doing an X Men game, 267 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:56,000 you know, and Blade happened and stuff, So, uh, you 268 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,039 got anything to add on the overall? I have just the few characters and 269 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,519 upone and go down with anything overall on some of these uh these things out 270 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:10,960 there let's see here. Of course I've tried to mention Sparman three's and the 271 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,480 game plan too, but I think we all kind of know that was gonna 272 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,320 that's a right, no given no duh, so right, which'll be the 273 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,440 fifth Spider Man game they make at that point, yeah, kind of or 274 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,480 even sixth if you count online as a separate thing. That's kind of crazy 275 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,440 how how much they're doing that. But no, I mean, uh, 276 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,720 I feel like Gambit has a good chance being on that X Men game. 277 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,399 I just feel like he makes sense for roster wise, because some characters, 278 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,080 like even Cyclops, like, ah, do you really like? Is Cyclopes 279 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,080 fun? What are you trying to say? Do you really want to play 280 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,919 the cyclass that you're saying? I play Cyclops, but like he's maybe the 281 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:45,120 bottom of the not bottom of the barrel. But I just feel like Gambits, 282 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:48,360 like that's a fun like Storm Gambit, those are those are fun characters. 283 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,519 That's why I want to do a cast because I just like I can't 284 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:52,559 wrap my brain around in Samniac, like just who do you pick and what 285 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,799 do you limit it to because to me, when you say X Men, 286 00:16:56,879 --> 00:17:00,639 like I like, like I said, like it being even three characters, 287 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:06,160 that's just straight to me. It has to be a beefy roster, not 288 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:08,440 beefy. But like I think, to me, five is usually the minimum 289 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,960 of X Men, you know, and but I think you can get away 290 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,240 with you know, Xavier and Beast are in the game. They're not playable 291 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,319 or something, and still have a ton of stuff with them, and so 292 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,680 it still feels like an X Men game because you're hanging out the X Mansion, 293 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,319 all these characters are there, and you know, maybe like Jubilee is 294 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,599 there, but she's just like taking classes. She's not allowed to go on 295 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:32,880 like battles yet you know, you get like set up, that's your mini 296 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,799 mission as m but it's Jubilee like Beast. Yeah, one day we'll talk 297 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:40,400 about it. I was gonna say something else, but yeah, there's definitely 298 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,119 a lot more squeezed. I'm with you on Gambit though, by way, 299 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,759 Yeah, Gambit, he's one of my favorite characters. He was not he 300 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:52,319 didn't make it all to the Alliance three, but we should save this for 301 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,160 he got its own. Yeah exactly, But yeah, Okay, so some 302 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,400 of these characters that came out, Lee is supposedly gonna be in this game. 303 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:06,359 So that's that's a fun Leech memories in the sewers. Yeah, yeah, 304 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:11,240 uh you got I'll skip like the bartender and stuff. Leach to me 305 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,319 feels like a kind of equivalent to like mister Negative and the way, uh, 306 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,440 like, I guess Leech is more known than mister Negative, but the 307 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,240 way that was, like, Oh, there was a huge character in Spider 308 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:21,680 Man twenty teen, Everyone's like, who's this guy? I feel like Leech 309 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,279 could uh kind of be like that. I don't know, not that he 310 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:26,680 would be the main villain. I'm not saying that. No. I I 311 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:30,319 think the description is a young mute that Jean's taken care of. So I 312 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,960 think he's a very like new not a villain. He's not even a villain. 313 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,680 Don't know why I assume to be a villain. The poor guy dying 314 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,799 on christs like he must be the villain. I think he's gonna be like 315 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,759 a new X Men recruit or maybe someone Logan finds along the way and drops 316 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:47,039 him off the mansion. Uh. One that was getting people excited. Uh, 317 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,000 mystique who is supposedly popping off, so it's always good when she's there. 318 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,359 She's mystique because that's you can do so many fun plot twist that. 319 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Yeah, save or tooth not a big like you gotta have them there, 320 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:06,440 right. We talked about Geen Gray. Troy Baker is supposedly playing mister Sinister, 321 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,039 which I think is a very interesting There is plot points about what they're 322 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:15,640 gonna have this character do already not gonna read them out. It's a fucking 323 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:18,759 wild take, I'll say that for what they're planning and making him relate to 324 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:25,119 the story. But I could see him being the overall are you trying to 325 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,240 look what it's out there? No? I thought of the thing that I 326 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,480 mentioned, Okay, the thing that I was trying to think of earlier. 327 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,400 I remember it, so I wrote down so I don't forget it first, 328 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,599 Okay. I could see him being like the overall man behind the curtain, 329 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,799 villain, like all this stuff's happening, who's behind it? Mister Sinister? 330 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,640 And I think Troy Baker, that's great casting. Yeah, I do too. 331 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,519 I think that's a good one one. That table was pretty excited about, 332 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:51,440 an I am too. Sasquatch this game, so maybe we'll get some 333 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,839 Alpha flight connections and stuff like that. I'd love to. I don't know 334 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,039 if you'll fight them all, but just to see some of them, that'd 335 00:19:57,079 --> 00:20:02,359 be great. Another I kind of noda Lady dev Strike, you know, 336 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,200 so tied to Overrain, and this one could have been a noda, but 337 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,279 like, I don't care. I'm very excited. There's a game, Wolverine 338 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:14,680 Revenge. It was based on X two. It really wasn't. It has 339 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,400 nothing to do. It's a movie time game had nothing to do Next two 340 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,200 other than they origin me the same, but they had an end credit scene 341 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,799 in that game setting up the sequel. I never got it, and it 342 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,319 was Wolverine. He the whole game, he's trying to find he's trying to 343 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:27,079 remember this character because he's gonna go take revenge on them the next game. 344 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:30,839 And he wakes up and he goes Omega Red and he hears he says, 345 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,640 Omego Red, Omega Red. I never got that sequel, So I've been 346 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,319 waiting for years to fight Omega Red. And Omega Red is supposedly in this 347 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,880 game. There's concept part of him. He's looking fucking badass, but he's 348 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,160 something that maybe could have been an ODAB, but that for me is just 349 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:48,000 a high pick of that is a boss battle I'm looking very forward to. 350 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,799 That could be a very fun just all those tentacles, the metal, Like 351 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:55,400 you could have a real good time with that. So for me, some 352 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,680 of these are offices, but like I feel like it's kind of like what 353 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,279 we're talking about the desk Ending movie, where if let's say they feel that 354 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:03,119 they could only make one Wolverine game, they're hitting the right stuff Death Strike, 355 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:07,319 Saber, Tooth, Omega Red, you know, like maybe there's even 356 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,400 a flashback mission of you and X Force. I don't know, but they're 357 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:17,000 they're I think the lineup is like perfect, but the message WHOA my light? 358 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,319 Just close with the with some some of the concept art that you've seen 359 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,799 here, because with twenty eighteen and I haven't played Speriment two yet, I 360 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:26,319 haven't seen all these character designs in detail. But they obviously took a very 361 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,640 like robotronic kind of design for a lot of these characters, like rather than 362 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,720 being I guess supernatural, it was like they just had big robot scorpion legs 363 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,720 and that's what you know, may and we didn't necessarily love the art style 364 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:41,200 of some of those things. How do you feel about the art direction they've 365 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,680 gone for, Like I mean you mentioned like in Omega Red. So is 366 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,160 it because they stuck to more comic accurate stuff or are they do doing a 367 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,599 different insamiaic spin on it. But it's still a look that you're enjoying. 368 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,279 There's a little bit of a spin Like I think Omega Red they've made like 369 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,119 a little bit kind of smaller, like not as big as opposing but he 370 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,920 has like a tentacle, he has the metal going on. Raven has like 371 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,359 the whole like white suit and everything like that. With the skulls just a 372 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,640 skull, the skull belt there is, it's very minor. It just looks 373 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,160 like it's just a skull like imprinted. It's not the actual skull. But 374 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,640 other than the face, mister Sister looks like he would look like in the 375 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,559 An made series. The face. They don't have Troy Baker's face. It 376 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:25,640 is in the concept art it is so it doesn't have like the weird slid 377 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,079 eyes and the teeth, which I'm fine if they want to change that, 378 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,039 but even the look saber tooth, it's funny like he looks the same, 379 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,279 but then his hair is like really curly and looks like it's been like he 380 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,759 got some work done on it. So it looks like they're sticking more to 381 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,160 what the designs close for the calm, so it's not like a saber tooth. 382 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,400 It goes like a big metal suit and stuff. It looks like he's 383 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,279 just like a man sabertooth, you know, like something's wrong with him. 384 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:52,920 He's hairy. M hmm, yeah, Superman. Mike was saying Rift Apart 385 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:53,759 was linear. They know how to do it for all room, which made 386 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:59,359 me think of man, I feel like Nightcrawler with the teleporting around and the 387 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,119 the rift apart eness of that, or you know, get Blink in there. 388 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,240 If you want the more low key pick that would be that would be 389 00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:10,519 sick. I think actually Nightcrawler with the PS five tech, that could be 390 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:14,400 a thing where you know, the head haunches over at Sony like you gotta 391 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,160 do Nightcrawler because it shows off how good our our tech is. Over here 392 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,000 are load times. Yeah, I never had any Den Wolverene. For me, 393 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:22,640 it's the X Men thing of how do you get that to be a 394 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,599 team game and make it linear? But maybe like ratchally clanking, plays multiple 395 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,000 characters and stuff. I'll have to wait till I see how they do it, 396 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:32,759 but yeah, and I think because I was looking at like what multiplayer 397 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:34,480 stuff has Insomniac done before, and I think the only thing they have done 398 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,960 multiplayer was some ratching clank stuff, and I think that was just like in 399 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:42,799 the era where like every game had the competitive multiplayer. Yeah, so I 400 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,480 think that's a movie. I'm wrong, Maybe there was like a fully dedicated 401 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:51,240 multiplayer ractioning Clank. Two other questions that I remember here. One is like, 402 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,759 uh, because I don't know, I guess the X mansions like near 403 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,000 or like in New York to some extent, is this game seem like it's 404 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,960 in Is it like in Spider Man's New York? Or what's the setting? 405 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,839 From this leaks? I think you could start, well, look, I 406 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,240 think it's like a globe trotter. It looks like some people compare Charted. 407 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:11,559 Yeah, because there's one section where he looks like Wolverine's in a suit, 408 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,160 so it looks like he's Japan at some point. Maybe, Yeah, that's 409 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,200 what I was thinking. So I think it'd be a game where it's like, 410 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,039 oh, we gotta go to Australia and then again the Australia they say 411 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:26,359 her tooth. Yeah, I think it'll be a game that maybe mister is 412 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:32,920 just Australian for something. Troy really wants you to try something, So yeah, 413 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,240 I think I think it'll be him all over the world in the Blackbird 414 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:40,400 there mm hmma, Troy Baker was the villain in Miles Morales. I just 415 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,839 remembered maybe they would get him again, was he? Yeah, I forget 416 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:48,640 the name of the character because that character was really boring. But and what 417 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440 do you mean do you think they'd get him again? Like? I don't 418 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,480 know, because if there's just like some connective, like world connectivity between these 419 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,920 things, like obviously it's a voice actor and it's Troy Baker and you can 420 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,039 do things with his voice. But did they do that? I guess. 421 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:04,920 I think Trebe is just a go to guy. I think just like people 422 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,279 like him. I got, I got a question is off the top. 423 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,119 I don't think it would work, do you No? I don't think so. 424 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,680 But just for shoots and giggles like the anime series, do you think 425 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,000 there's any chance that X Men game that's just a default title and one of 426 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:23,079 those characters. Is a Spider Man in there, just like the animated series 427 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,480 where you got Spider Man a part of the X Men for like a game, 428 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,640 because those characters made already. I know, it's not the swinging and 429 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,119 I don't think would happen, but because I just try to think about their 430 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,319 Avengers and I love that nineties animated show when Spider Man teams, I would 431 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,119 say no, but the existence of the online stuff makes me say, yes, 432 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,440 why not why not do that? Why not just have even Spider Man 433 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,440 just throw them in there as a villain in this danger room, like yeah, 434 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,640 for sure, why not you already got that stuff, throw whoever, 435 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,359 throw uh Scorpion in there, electro like I don't know, just anyone will 436 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,240 be built the Yeah, I get Ben and there, like anyone they've built 437 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,960 assets for. Why not just throw them in that crazy mode Like that would 438 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720 be so cool because a man, I don't know if I have this screenshot, 439 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:08,960 it's somewhere in our discord, which is a great place to go, 440 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,880 by the way. So it was absolutely a lot of stuff. But yeah, 441 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,920 on that on that multiplayer ambitions thing, there was like, okay, 442 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,440 multiplayer architecture, like they're working on that up until twenty twenty four, and 443 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,759 then they call it multiplayer one point oh. Is in twenty twenty four Spider 444 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:29,279 Man two, and then in twenty twenty six is when the Wolverine like Wolverine 445 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:32,960 Online launches and they call it multiplayer two point zero. And then when we 446 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,559 get to twenty twenty eight, they those two things merge and it's multiplayer three 447 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,599 point oh and it's x Men Online. That makes me think it could be 448 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,240 some sort of like big connective thing. And obviously there's some weirdness with X 449 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:48,480 Men. It be true Spider Man, but I don't know that's how they 450 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,200 wrote it on the A infograph. I don't know. This is yeah stuff 451 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,440 but yeah, and at least stuff too, right. It could be stuff 452 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,559 that they were playing, like look at what happened last week. Last of 453 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Us was having a multiplayer Lives game and then gone just like that. You 454 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:03,960 know, obviously there's bill to but still like this could be something that they 455 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:06,880 tinker with, and then when they get close to going, you know what, 456 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:08,599 let's just stick to the solo game, like this is this is not 457 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,440 worth it. At the end of the day, we don't know when this 458 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,720 information was taken right, Like you said, the pivot happened, this could 459 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:18,160 all be information that was before that, And now Sony could have said, 460 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,319 you know that stuff you're working on, kill it, we don't want to 461 00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:23,440 do, right, but that only no, no, no, I meant 462 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,279 just the multiplayer aspect, right, like they could say, don't do any 463 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:30,319 of that. We don't. Actually, I mean if Spider Man two is 464 00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,880 supposed to come out, and yeah, you're right, like this document could 465 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 have been leaked from yeah, seven years ago or something or like that's when 466 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,440 it could have been made. Who knows, but yeah, I mean if 467 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,279 well, I guess the release dates of some of these newer things wouldn't necessarily 468 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,200 that way. I'm thinking like six months ago right onlines like certainly going to 469 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,119 happen right at this point next year, I thought so, But now I 470 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,359 do. And if you would ask me pre leak, I thought, no, 471 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,839 I didn't think that'd be a yeah, yeah, yeah, So I 472 00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,359 feel like that's I mean, that's at the very least the testing ground. 473 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,440 And if they do that and no one cares, or make some zero money 474 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,000 or it's really buggy or something like that, and then maybe they just say, 475 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:07,680 ah, drop it. We're just gonna focus on Wolverine and Gene here 476 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,400 and then you still X Men. You just you don't have to do that 477 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,759 multiped three point zero. Let's hope integration down the line, like Suicaid Squad 478 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,400 being like, and sometime in twenty twenty four, we're gonna make an offline 479 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,920 mode in some toy you know, yeah, don't do that. Whatever you 480 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,200 do Insomniac Avengers, Suicaid Squad, you've seen happen, Just stay as far 481 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:33,240 away from from that, you know, just yeah, yep, stay away. 482 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,119 I think that's all for me on this are those things you forgot that 483 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,839 you wrote down right? Well? I was one of my questions was gonna 484 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:44,599 be just based on the footage, like and Wolverine moving around because of how 485 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,880 how much like movement options there are in Spider Man with those characters, And 486 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,079 I was like, Okay, is Wolvering gonna have some sort of equivalent? 487 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:52,960 But it's like, I don't know. If the game's more linear and smaller 488 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,279 scale, then I don't think you really need that. You know, he 489 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,599 can wall climb and run, yeah, he does, doesn't he doesn't need 490 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,039 like a motorbike. Like, It's not like we're being that big of a 491 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,119 big or anything. There was no motorbike in the league. There wasn't that. 492 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480 It looked like he was doing a lot of grappling without a grapple like 493 00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:15,000 So one more spoiler question on Spider Man two. Is it like obvious who 494 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,079 the villain could be the third one? You don't have to say who it 495 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:19,920 is, but oh, is it fairly obvious who you think the villain would 496 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400 be of the third one? At this point? I think it's obvious for 497 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,599 who Venom and third one is Yes, okay, sounds good. Yeah, 498 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,640 there's one very non obvious thing that I'm excited for you to play because there's 499 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,079 an end credit. I was like, yeah, I was not expecting this, 500 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,599 and it adds to all just say, is it adds to the Spider 501 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Man online stuff of having more options than just Peter and my Ales and Venom. 502 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,519 And it's not even character that you would think, like when you played 503 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:49,200 her here you beg really, that's a character they're bringing in. So there's 504 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,920 some stuff cooking over there. Interesting, man, I went, you know 505 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,160 Black Friday was happening. I was. I was dangerously close to buying a 506 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,640 PS five. I almost the deals kind of sucked. That's why I didn't 507 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200 end up doing it. It was just like you get Spider Man for free, 508 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:04,039 essentially, I'm like, well, these games go on sale for like 509 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,440 ten dollars in a few months, so like what, that's not a great 510 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,480 deal. So I don't know. If the Spider Man two online thing is 511 00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:15,359 really really cool, then maybe maybe that would be the time. But I 512 00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,119 definitely thought like Wolverine will be the thing pushed me over the edge. But 513 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,440 if that isn't happened till twenty twenty six, then I have to imagine it'll 514 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,039 be something else that gets me in the door first. And do you think 515 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,160 because there was something that came a little bit beforehand, like there was like 516 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,160 the we had the leaks, and then there's a few things that came up 517 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,000 and the big thing happened, it kind of got overshadowed. But last week 518 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,960 there was a rumor of them working on like a Spider Verse type. It 519 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400 gave meing just like a game with multiple Spider people. Do you think that's 520 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:42,160 just code for what the online might have been now instead, like they're not 521 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,279 making a Spider Man and Friends are making Let's say, like you said, 522 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:49,480 Ghsashshima where it's like you have your four or three types of Samurai. You 523 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,279 could be right or Ninja, same thing, like you could be Peter, 524 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,039 you could be Miles, you could be Venom, you could be blank. 525 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,319 You know. Yeah, I mean, I guess I could see that being 526 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,559 an integration in two. I guess just either Spider Man three or in online. 527 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,599 I didn't see anything about that one, so I don't really have another 528 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,960 infro on it. But yeah, I think that that could be a good 529 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,839 because I don't know, once again, in the way that you want to 530 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920 keep reactioning up the intensity or intrig of these things, Like you gotta think 531 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160 Spider Man three is gonna have some other new newbie in there. So is 532 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,640 that, Gwen? Is that just a full on multiversal thing where you can 533 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,839 bring in a couple other characters or even just slight variations of our characters now 534 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,960 with like some like half half step like move set differences. You know, 535 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,480 they have some of some of these moves some of the other ones, something 536 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:33,799 like that. I suppose I see in the chat. He said, from 537 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:36,599 what i've Okay, good, He's gonna let us know, he said, 538 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,359 from what I've seen the leaks. It seems that there are two different things. 539 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,880 The Spider Verse online game would be like a GTA on line level online. 540 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240 Okay, wait for him to say the next week. So that seems 541 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:49,039 like the classic like Sony looking for their live service game, like you create 542 00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:56,240 your own Spider Person. Oh fuck, that's a man. You know the 543 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,359 game the kids nowadays, we have the lego games for those that kind of 544 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,400 thing. Yes, but the kids nowadays that they get their summer break and 545 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960 the games that they like. We had great games, but I'm just saying, 546 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,599 like, imagine right now having those Like you got two and a half 547 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Marbling that was good. I know, but like you're telling me, and 548 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,000 if you're telling me, hey, Travis, there's a game that you d 549 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,119 be your own Spider Person created. Do whatever you get two months off of 550 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,839 school, have some fun, like fuck, man, Like, I'm surprised 551 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,279 you actually are that excited. I feel like you're not a very like big 552 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:30,000 into the character creator like you like to play established especially for Marvel stuff. 553 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,160 I like it's like the Hunter Midnight Zones, but I feel like generally you're 554 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,240 not a big fan of that country. But I like it because we already 555 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:38,039 have the Spider Man game. If it was let's say we go back to 556 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:42,799 twenty eighteen and it's like I want to take you on a roller coast and 557 00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,640 it's like, oh, what's happening. It's like beat your own Spider person, 558 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:46,680 Like, ah, fuck this, I don't want you try to name 559 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,920 your character Peter and it like blanks. You're not about to make them Peter. 560 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880 You can call them Parker Peter, but not Peter Parker. Like if 561 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,799 those gay, like even right now, if they said we did Spierman two, 562 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,039 we're done with Spider Man, I'd be completely fine. If those I 563 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,119 think says then I'd be bumped. But the fact that I got two great 564 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:07,240 Peter Parker Miles games and then even the third one, and then if I 565 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,559 got the create, that to me is something that's just that's mind blowing. 566 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:14,640 I did not see that, Like it's that's something I would sing way too 567 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,519 many hours into you fight World bosses together, like a venomized Sam and right, 568 00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,559 I saw that there was a venom that was like Godzilla size and he 569 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,680 was a villain. Stuff like that that's in the constant art villains shoes, 570 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,920 Spider Man archetypes from Really that's what that was Spider Man Gwen two thousand and 571 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:35,599 nine. Oh my god. Yeah, there's just turning to be honest, 572 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,880 not really speaking to me. I don't think that would be the Spider Man 573 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,680 game for me personal it. No, you'd come in for a little bit. 574 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,200 I know you would. It was free to play, sure, all 575 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,160 downloaded. But I didn't even play Spider Man too. What are you talking 576 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,359 about? I'm not I'm not a die hard over here. I yeah, 577 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720 I know, but like I just I just feel like if there's like a 578 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,359 some sort of want to create my own Spider Man, I don't care about. 579 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,200 Boy, He's not the thing that would sell me. Oh you know, 580 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,960 you should be the thing that sells me over here. Well, they're 581 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680 making a Venom game. They're gonna you're gonna get that. I gonna replays 582 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,599 them in a game, but I you'll want more of it's smart though, 583 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:15,159 it's I don't know you you'd make some fun characters, you know, you 584 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:21,840 make your fark Fuckle Lombardi Spiderman version malcol Lombardi. I don't yeah, yeah, 585 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,400 I don't know, but I would love that. At first, few 586 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:25,559 think it was cancer, but now it seems like it was never green that 587 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,079 now has been green light. Oh that's fine. Yeah, I think we 588 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:35,920 covered it all. Uh yeah, I think so. Thank god Kirklin Tarror 589 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,519 weren't here because we're at two thirteen already and it's just you and me, 590 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,800 so there's lots of talk about So I hope we even cut topics too. 591 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,559 There. Yeah, I cut. I'm glad I cut the truths, which 592 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:46,440 we'll probably talk about on the twenty twenty four wee because lots of the are 593 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,000 coming on look good. So yeah, I hope in the new year, 594 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,320 when you're like, oh, where's the news, you got a nice, 595 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,920 juicy episode right here, almost two and a half hours, and like I 596 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960 said, we'll be back. We'll be talking about other stuff. But usually 597 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,280 January slows down. But yeah, look out for you know, there'll be 598 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,639 an X Men cast of some sort. We'll probably be talking. Well maybe 599 00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,039 I'm not sure when Dylan schedule that because Xtra ninety six, but you could 600 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,679 double dip. You could do one for ninety seven and then one for I 601 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,800 mean yeah, I mean, at the very least, I I just wanted 602 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,760 to come out and you're ninety seven, so absolutely could record that. Whenever 603 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,079 throw it up on Patreon like three months early. You know, that's the 604 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,360 X Men animated, So yeah, who knows, it'll happen at some point. 605 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,360 Yeah, so January, there'll be slower movies, games, somefing like 606 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,480 that. But we got lots of good content. So if we don't talk 607 00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:29,320 to you in the news like sentiment, thank you very much. Have a 608 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,800 good holidays. If you had some time, all, spend time with your 609 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,119 family. And if not, just go go see Wonka. If you have 610 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440 no family, you don't care about Christmas, Christmas holily, go see Wonka 611 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,239 twenty fifth. Maybe we'll bump into Taylor, maybe we'll bump into Dylan. 612 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:44,800 Let them know your thoughts on it, you know, So till next time, 613 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:45,519 I'll be boring. Se uh