Alright, so now if you want to to in case you don't want anything,
but I guess that we're not gonna be talking about any spoiler stuff.
We're gonna be talking about stuff that is out there and stuff but nothing because
I don't even think that's out there. But we're gonna be talking about this
big insamnac Wolverine leaks. I would say there's spoilers involved in this. I
mean yeah, but I it's I guess for me, it's just like with
the character roster being out there, Like I get it, it is a
spoiler, but to me, it's not like, ah, man, that's
ruined the game for me, you know, like like I don't think there's
anything that's ruined the game for me. If anything, like it did make
me more except but like, what do you what do you know about this
this league so far? Have you watched all the footage, looked at all
the Discord stuff? Have you where have you been on it? I've looked
through the Discord stuff. Yes, good, And that's pretty much the extent,
honest. I didn't really dig too much deeper than that. But uh,
even that was like, holy shit, there's a lot to chew on.
I need to pace myself here. Yeah, what do you think about
just the in game stuff? First, I'm curious, uh the like footage
of I guess yeah, well, I guess there was there footage of Gene.
I just saw, like the space footage of Gene. Ok, she's
for sure playable character. So our MJ missions and Wolverine are gonna be Gene
Gray missions, which I think are a Now you're gonna have a magic,
telekinetic floating character in low stealth character and they can actually fight massive step up
to me. Yeah, I mean, of course it's very early, rough
footage that is missing a lot of art and whatnot from what I've seen,
so obviously in that way, it's like, yeah, I mean it doesn't
look amazing, but I I am very excited for what we have cooking in
the next few years with Insomniac. I guess I'll put it that way.
But yeah, I gotta go this Gene footage because that I want to see
that. In part that's because I don't think I need to see videos of
what like Wolverine looks like. You have to know, like I already have
one hundred ccent faith, but like, I gotta see what this gene gray
stuff looks like so I'm more curious on that. So how did that look?
The magic and whatnot? It looks good. She's popping off some purple
magic. She was fighting off multiple enemies. She had like projectiles and stuff,
and yeah, she was I think floating a little. So it looked
good. I'm all of it look good to me. I love. People
are kind of comparing it. They said it looked like a Arkham Asylum meets
God a War, And I think we had talked about before where God of
War might be a good template for them where it's minor the open world but
not really it's a to and from and it looks like it's that it has
stuff like the Batman thing. It fits for Wolverine where Batman has the Tech
division. He is like smell a vision where he's going around and smelling stuff
and that's like leading the traces, Like that's really cool. Some of the
action, Like it's kind of like what you said were because in saw me
I trust him, but it was like a reaffirming of oh, this just
looks like when it looks like it's gonna be if this to me looks good
when we get the found product. This is gonna be great, Like this
looks exactly like everything I wanted from there, and which I mean, yeah,
I didn't like, would anyone have any doubts? Like in Somac has
just been absolutely crushing it for years at this point, So yeah, yeah,
I feel like we had a one hundred percent faith. It's just it's
cool to see other characters guess because that's the stuff we didn't really know about.
Well, that's that's what I was going to ask you. What do
you want? Do you want to talk about the rumored lineup or do you
want to talk about the rumored game lineup? First? Maybe? Oh man,
maybe start with the game lamp. So the gene thing's interesting because so
the supposed roadmap came out and that's where you know it's out there, and
so so far it sounds like we're getting Venom twenty twenty five, which is
a far way way. But I think that's just like a Miles Morales equivalent,
where a smaller game can I this is a spoiler conversation, Sure,
Spider Man. Two question, I Venom, he's playable in that game?
I've guessing Spider Man absolutely, yes, Okay, what fantastic. I can't
wait for you to play it. They like hit it. They hit home
run with the whole sequence. You do a boss fight sequence, so it's
just like one part or it is around the open world with him afterwards.
No, you could. They fixed it. There was a bug where you
could escape and going over the world. But it's like a really put together
sequence. But it's not like a cut time sequence. It's a full level,
but you're as Venom, but you there's also a boss flight like you
fight another big Spiderman film as Venom, and it's a really sad. So
it doesn't sound like you were like, oh shit, man, they should
have like had him as a full playable character. That doesn't sound like you're
disappointed by the implementation, even if I was limited. I wanted that.
But I think because we're in the post Miles Moareuse world, I just thought
this Venom game is not a surprise. I thought we're gonna get that eventually,
so to be playing as them. They nailed that, and the sequence
to me actually went on longer than I thought it was gonna go. I
thought it would just be a slice and like like an MJ mission, it's
it's much longer than an hour one hour. No, No, it's probably
it. It I feel like I'm building it up. It's probably shorter than
that, but it's just that I'd say it's like an MJ mission times too,
so the way she's but it just like it it it feels so spoof,
like as Venom, it's like everything you want, Like how he complained
about ultimate lines, like he doesn't feel like that's like he's so it's so
fun. It's like a dream come true as that. So okay, So
yeah, that's that's well, And that's not the first thing up. I
guess the first thing up is Spider Man two multiplayer or whatever online. I
guess, yeah, because that they're back and forth. Yeah, and that's
where people don't know if it's a for sure thing happening. But yeah,
I think it goes SPERMNT two online and then the Venom game, which I'm
really curious about the like, is Speriment two online just you can just swing
around your friends and do things at the same time. I don't think,
so, I know, would not be something that they just have happened at
launch, Like what is it? What is I don't know, Like I
just don't see them doing like six months later, you can now play the
game and co op. I think it's gotta be. I don't think it's
versus though. So the only thing I can think of is like, I
feel like it's like a Ghost of Sashima Legends. Oh my god. I
think it's like you and your you and your homies play these characters and you
battle against characters. I think, you know, look at what's been going
on Last of Us two. They did the remake Master whatever the hell,
and then they add like a rogue like mode in there, so it's like
kind of like this endless sort of thing. God of War just added that
Valhalla DLC to Ragnarok, and I feel like that just makes a lot of
sense to do that kind of formula here with this where it's like you're you
go in and yeah, maybe it's like a wave based thing depending on mode
to mode, you know, a wave based thing like Legends has, or
just like here's a chunk of New York and here's like randomly generated enemies and
a boss fight or something like that. I feel like that's what it's got
to be, because I just I don't see them doing competitive multiplayer and I
think co op is I just don't. I don't know. Maybe for Spider
Man two they would, they could do that, like, oh, six
months later, here's this co op DLC. Then I think looking at the
rest of this road map where there's like a game and then the online game,
then the online I don't think they would continuously do that. I think
I think it's got to be something a little bit more substantial, not necessarily
live service, but something that's more live service than just co op. Yeah,
the Ghost of Shashima Pitch, that's like that's a dream, which you
know in the new that was so fucking successful. That was so good and
it was a huge surprise too, or I'm trying to remember it announced like
either shortly after the game launched or like right before it launched, it like,
hey, later on we're doing this multiplayer. I think it was worth
it. It was a right yeah, and then it came out like three
or four months afterwards. Yeah, it wasn't that far in the New Year.
We should we should get back in there. I should. Yeah,
those are good times. Yeah, So that that'd be perfect, that that
would be all I need. I'd love it, give give and that makes
sense like around the city together too, you know, and that's small enough
scale where for Spider Man two, like you straight up just do it two
player, like it's just you, Like someone plays Peter, another player as
Miles. And then obviously, like years down the road, we get to
X Men and Wolverine and stuff. That's where you could break it out to
like the classic four player thing, and then who knows, maybe even more
X Men in the future. You get eight X Men, get seven of
your closest friends, and get the whole roster going. That's what I was
gonna say, like, because so that's the roadmap where it's supposedly which is
strange. It's yeah, Spiderman multiplayer, Venom Wolverine, which is rumored to
be twenty twenty six. So we got a buckle up, everybody. We
gotta we gotta ways to go, and that's just like the hopeful day.
And then there was a Wolverine online which was odd. And then the one
that to me is I don't want to get like Suicide Squad vibes, because
that was the jump from Batman to like Suicide Squad. But that was the
rumored game in twenty thirty. That's a long time way. But like,
that's what supposes deal league that they did show that x they signed a deal
to have X Men exclusive to Sony. X Men characters can be in a
situation where if they made like a Marvel Lines four, Wolverine could be in
that, but no one can go make Hey, Xbox can't make the Storm
game. But that's the idea that and saw me actually me making an X
Men game, which I think is fucking crazy in my like that's I did
not have that on my Bengal hard and I still I would not believe it.
But the fact that obviously these leaks are like legit, legit, that's
I'm mind blown by that that that's even a concept they're thinking about, because
that's something completely different for them, like a team based game, like like
I don't know what it would be. I don't know what would be.
That's probably a whole side quest episode in itself that maybe we could do one
day, Like what would we build an X Men game? Well, I
mean I was gonna do when I thought when I thought, when I thought
X Men ninety seven was coming out in January, that was a cast I
had put in our calendar, you know, peek behind the curtain here that
we're still gonna do it even if there's this. Absolutely we're still going to
do a fictional X Men Legends three roster, but now we also have to
do this because that would obviously be a very different type of roster than something
like the X Men Legends would have. So yeah, first of all,
as a bummer, if like that'shy x Men Legends was maybe in the works,
but then it got like, I don't think that's actually the case,
but if it was, and then it got kind of killed because of this
exclusivity thing. But I mean, I guess Sony could still make X Men
Legends. But yeah, now we're getting beside the point. But yeah,
it is. It is crazy. But I also feel like they just seem
to be really building that, like the infrastructure for that, right, Like
Spider Man they make this one game in twenty eighteen, uh, and they
can really just iterate and keep building off of it. Build off that same
New York and get Miles Morales out there as a separate game, Get Spider
Man Twohere you have two playable characters or I guess three, and then boom
you have the Venom thing. It's like they are just ramping themselves up for
that so much, and it feels like, well, we already know I
guess if because this Gene Gray stuff like that's of course part of like the
Wolverine game. It's not part of the XCERA game, because the X Men
game is so far away, So like they're already laying the framework for that
down, because that's not just like Gene taking pictures with a camera like MG,
like, it's that's a full on move set. And maybe it's quite
as rpg'ed out as Wolverine's like getting five percent more damage on his claws or
something like that, but it's obviously in there, and that makes you wonder
what other characters could be in that game now. Hopefully I think Wolverine keep
it somewhat caned. Of course, and it is called Wolverine. Why would
they not just call it X Men if it's more than that? But yeah,
man, like it seems like they are laying down the framework for that,
especially if it's like Wolverine drops, you got the online thing come out
later, Maybe you have one or two more play work characters in there,
and then you're like only one or two away from an X Men roster at
that point, Like it just it makes so much sense, and I I
don't know. Also on this as like Rotchet and Clank, I don't worry.
I don't think you guys gonna have time for that. But then again,
they already did in this new gen like from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty
with Miles Morales to Ratchen Clank twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three Spider Man
two, like they insomniaual output is already insane. But I'm just so curious,
like would you with an X Men they would you have? How many
members would you have? I think it'd be relatively small. But I just
like it's different with Spider Man because it's like it's Miles and Peter that's too,
and even Venom it's just like one sequence in the game and then you
go back, like would the game work like that too, where it's you
know, let's say it's Storm, Jean, Scott and Wolverine and then the
game is, Okay, this is a Gene mission, this is Scott mission.
You can go back and forth. That would that be the way?
Even Wolverine it doesn't sound like it's working the same way, right, where
Spiderman's and open world game, Wolverine sounds like it's more God of War linear,
So I guess it might just be a new challenge for them, which
I'm always down. I just like I said, the Suicide Squad has scared
me because that was like I saw a studio be doing great solo player games
and then go to not that has to be multiplayer, but that's what they
kind of did, and it was you know, I don't think it's working
out for them. I mean, that's right. I think there's some maybe
just a different approach that Insomniac's taking here, where first of all, like,
yeah, they've spent now three Spider Man games to figure out what Spider
Man is as a gameplay system before they're jumping into this online thing. So
when they're jumping into Wolverine, that feels like, okay, from Wolverine to
Wolverine Online, like that feels like a much shorter leap. But I I
don't know, I feel like they are taking a better approach to it by
like kind of slowly building up into these things and are establishing this is what
Wolverine is as a game, and then we're gonna add online afterwards. I
feel like that's a better approach to me than the Marvel's Avengers approach or the
Suicide Squad approach, which is like built from the ground up as a live
service game. This does not seem like that. It seems like, how
can we take these great action adventure games that people already love, and how
can we let people play together with their friends because that is such a big
part of the superhero fantasy as a thing. So it seems like that was
the second step after making a really solid game and foundation to build upon.
So to me, it seems like a much better approach. Now there's also
that side of it where Sony has like really been trying to double down on
live service things, but then they also have canceled a bunch of them,
including Last which was just happened so and then like Jim Ryan's leaving PlayStation soon,
so who knows, maybe that whole life. Yeah, like that could
take a huge pivot here sooner rather than later. And I feel like it's
smart because I feel like we say with Avengers and Suicide Squad that maybe it
was just too late before they could really like, yeah it is, and
with the timing of how all this stuff has worked. Insomniac and Sony have
both damn they got a lot of insight from what Marvel's Avengers was and how
poorly that was executed, even though those character move sets were fantastic, right,
Like, that's not really what the issue was there, And so I
feel like they're taking it the right approach here, and so yeah, I
think they It helps that they've had that lesson Suicide Squad. You might look
at the calendar and think, oh, they had Marvels Avengers to learn from.
They have in hindsight they can maybe modify some things, but still that
game is being developed for fucking decade at this point, Like they didn't far.
It was a different world when that game started development than from when Wolverine,
I guess, Spider Man two, Wolverine Online, and then X Men
Online which hasn't even started yet. But I think all these things, I
just I guess I have so much faith in Insomniac to nail it. And
to me, they're taking like they're not taking huge leafs and swings, you
know, put intended on swings. They're just taking like one step out of
time. And I think they're like because of that they're going to pace themselves
well into what could be very successful online, and I don't know if if
it is just fucking legends, I'm happy with that. Uh yeah, Ghost
to stream of Legends, be clear, not X Yeah, they're doing they're
doing a beat down arcade type game, which I'd love to be with with
Wolverine and X Men all that, Like that whole roguelike setup of just facing
random endies like that, you got the danger room like that just creates that.
You know, you can have any situation where you could bring in whatever
villain who even they don't even make sense in real life, but because they're
in the danger room when they're not real and like, that works, so
you could just have crazy combinations going against each other. That just seems like
too easy to do it that way. I hope it all happens, because
I can't wait seven years from now we're sitting down talking about a X Men
game. That that's that's that's those the days we dreamed for, you know,
a nice, big, huge Triple A studio doing an X Men game,
you know, and Blade happened and stuff, So, uh, you
got anything to add on the overall? I have just the few characters and
upone and go down with anything overall on some of these uh these things out
there let's see here. Of course I've tried to mention Sparman three's and the
game plan too, but I think we all kind of know that was gonna
that's a right, no given no duh, so right, which'll be the
fifth Spider Man game they make at that point, yeah, kind of or
even sixth if you count online as a separate thing. That's kind of crazy
how how much they're doing that. But no, I mean, uh,
I feel like Gambit has a good chance being on that X Men game.
I just feel like he makes sense for roster wise, because some characters,
like even Cyclops, like, ah, do you really like? Is Cyclopes
fun? What are you trying to say? Do you really want to play
the cyclass that you're saying? I play Cyclops, but like he's maybe the
bottom of the not bottom of the barrel. But I just feel like Gambits,
like that's a fun like Storm Gambit, those are those are fun characters.
That's why I want to do a cast because I just like I can't
wrap my brain around in Samniac, like just who do you pick and what
do you limit it to because to me, when you say X Men,
like I like, like I said, like it being even three characters,
that's just straight to me. It has to be a beefy roster, not
beefy. But like I think, to me, five is usually the minimum
of X Men, you know, and but I think you can get away
with you know, Xavier and Beast are in the game. They're not playable
or something, and still have a ton of stuff with them, and so
it still feels like an X Men game because you're hanging out the X Mansion,
all these characters are there, and you know, maybe like Jubilee is
there, but she's just like taking classes. She's not allowed to go on
like battles yet you know, you get like set up, that's your mini
mission as m but it's Jubilee like Beast. Yeah, one day we'll talk
about it. I was gonna say something else, but yeah, there's definitely
a lot more squeezed. I'm with you on Gambit though, by way,
Yeah, Gambit, he's one of my favorite characters. He was not he
didn't make it all to the Alliance three, but we should save this for
he got its own. Yeah exactly, But yeah, Okay, so some
of these characters that came out, Lee is supposedly gonna be in this game.
So that's that's a fun Leech memories in the sewers. Yeah, yeah,
uh you got I'll skip like the bartender and stuff. Leach to me
feels like a kind of equivalent to like mister Negative and the way, uh,
like, I guess Leech is more known than mister Negative, but the
way that was, like, Oh, there was a huge character in Spider
Man twenty teen, Everyone's like, who's this guy? I feel like Leech
could uh kind of be like that. I don't know, not that he
would be the main villain. I'm not saying that. No. I I
think the description is a young mute that Jean's taken care of. So I
think he's a very like new not a villain. He's not even a villain.
Don't know why I assume to be a villain. The poor guy dying
on christs like he must be the villain. I think he's gonna be like
a new X Men recruit or maybe someone Logan finds along the way and drops
him off the mansion. Uh. One that was getting people excited. Uh,
mystique who is supposedly popping off, so it's always good when she's there.
She's mystique because that's you can do so many fun plot twist that.
Yeah, save or tooth not a big like you gotta have them there,
right. We talked about Geen Gray. Troy Baker is supposedly playing mister Sinister,
which I think is a very interesting There is plot points about what they're
gonna have this character do already not gonna read them out. It's a fucking
wild take, I'll say that for what they're planning and making him relate to
the story. But I could see him being the overall are you trying to
look what it's out there? No? I thought of the thing that I
mentioned, Okay, the thing that I was trying to think of earlier.
I remember it, so I wrote down so I don't forget it first,
Okay. I could see him being like the overall man behind the curtain,
villain, like all this stuff's happening, who's behind it? Mister Sinister?
And I think Troy Baker, that's great casting. Yeah, I do too.
I think that's a good one one. That table was pretty excited about,
an I am too. Sasquatch this game, so maybe we'll get some
Alpha flight connections and stuff like that. I'd love to. I don't know
if you'll fight them all, but just to see some of them, that'd
be great. Another I kind of noda Lady dev Strike, you know,
so tied to Overrain, and this one could have been a noda, but
like, I don't care. I'm very excited. There's a game, Wolverine
Revenge. It was based on X two. It really wasn't. It has
nothing to do. It's a movie time game had nothing to do Next two
other than they origin me the same, but they had an end credit scene
in that game setting up the sequel. I never got it, and it
was Wolverine. He the whole game, he's trying to find he's trying to
remember this character because he's gonna go take revenge on them the next game.
And he wakes up and he goes Omega Red and he hears he says,
Omego Red, Omega Red. I never got that sequel, So I've been
waiting for years to fight Omega Red. And Omega Red is supposedly in this
game. There's concept part of him. He's looking fucking badass, but he's
something that maybe could have been an ODAB, but that for me is just
a high pick of that is a boss battle I'm looking very forward to.
That could be a very fun just all those tentacles, the metal, Like
you could have a real good time with that. So for me, some
of these are offices, but like I feel like it's kind of like what
we're talking about the desk Ending movie, where if let's say they feel that
they could only make one Wolverine game, they're hitting the right stuff Death Strike,
Saber, Tooth, Omega Red, you know, like maybe there's even
a flashback mission of you and X Force. I don't know, but they're
they're I think the lineup is like perfect, but the message WHOA my light?
Just close with the with some some of the concept art that you've seen
here, because with twenty eighteen and I haven't played Speriment two yet, I
haven't seen all these character designs in detail. But they obviously took a very
like robotronic kind of design for a lot of these characters, like rather than
being I guess supernatural, it was like they just had big robot scorpion legs
and that's what you know, may and we didn't necessarily love the art style
of some of those things. How do you feel about the art direction they've
gone for, Like I mean you mentioned like in Omega Red. So is
it because they stuck to more comic accurate stuff or are they do doing a
different insamiaic spin on it. But it's still a look that you're enjoying.
There's a little bit of a spin Like I think Omega Red they've made like
a little bit kind of smaller, like not as big as opposing but he
has like a tentacle, he has the metal going on. Raven has like
the whole like white suit and everything like that. With the skulls just a
skull, the skull belt there is, it's very minor. It just looks
like it's just a skull like imprinted. It's not the actual skull. But
other than the face, mister Sister looks like he would look like in the
An made series. The face. They don't have Troy Baker's face. It
is in the concept art it is so it doesn't have like the weird slid
eyes and the teeth, which I'm fine if they want to change that,
but even the look saber tooth, it's funny like he looks the same,
but then his hair is like really curly and looks like it's been like he
got some work done on it. So it looks like they're sticking more to
what the designs close for the calm, so it's not like a saber tooth.
It goes like a big metal suit and stuff. It looks like he's
just like a man sabertooth, you know, like something's wrong with him.
He's hairy. M hmm, yeah, Superman. Mike was saying Rift Apart
was linear. They know how to do it for all room, which made
me think of man, I feel like Nightcrawler with the teleporting around and the
the rift apart eness of that, or you know, get Blink in there.
If you want the more low key pick that would be that would be
sick. I think actually Nightcrawler with the PS five tech, that could be
a thing where you know, the head haunches over at Sony like you gotta
do Nightcrawler because it shows off how good our our tech is. Over here
are load times. Yeah, I never had any Den Wolverene. For me,
it's the X Men thing of how do you get that to be a
team game and make it linear? But maybe like ratchally clanking, plays multiple
characters and stuff. I'll have to wait till I see how they do it,
but yeah, and I think because I was looking at like what multiplayer
stuff has Insomniac done before, and I think the only thing they have done
multiplayer was some ratching clank stuff, and I think that was just like in
the era where like every game had the competitive multiplayer. Yeah, so I
think that's a movie. I'm wrong, Maybe there was like a fully dedicated
multiplayer ractioning Clank. Two other questions that I remember here. One is like,
uh, because I don't know, I guess the X mansions like near
or like in New York to some extent, is this game seem like it's
in Is it like in Spider Man's New York? Or what's the setting?
From this leaks? I think you could start, well, look, I
think it's like a globe trotter. It looks like some people compare Charted.
Yeah, because there's one section where he looks like Wolverine's in a suit,
so it looks like he's Japan at some point. Maybe, Yeah, that's
what I was thinking. So I think it'd be a game where it's like,
oh, we gotta go to Australia and then again the Australia they say
her tooth. Yeah, I think it'll be a game that maybe mister is
just Australian for something. Troy really wants you to try something, So yeah,
I think I think it'll be him all over the world in the Blackbird
there mm hmma, Troy Baker was the villain in Miles Morales. I just
remembered maybe they would get him again, was he? Yeah, I forget
the name of the character because that character was really boring. But and what
do you mean do you think they'd get him again? Like? I don't
know, because if there's just like some connective, like world connectivity between these
things, like obviously it's a voice actor and it's Troy Baker and you can
do things with his voice. But did they do that? I guess.
I think Trebe is just a go to guy. I think just like people
like him. I got, I got a question is off the top.
I don't think it would work, do you No? I don't think so.
But just for shoots and giggles like the anime series, do you think
there's any chance that X Men game that's just a default title and one of
those characters. Is a Spider Man in there, just like the animated series
where you got Spider Man a part of the X Men for like a game,
because those characters made already. I know, it's not the swinging and
I don't think would happen, but because I just try to think about their
Avengers and I love that nineties animated show when Spider Man teams, I would
say no, but the existence of the online stuff makes me say, yes,
why not why not do that? Why not just have even Spider Man
just throw them in there as a villain in this danger room, like yeah,
for sure, why not you already got that stuff, throw whoever,
throw uh Scorpion in there, electro like I don't know, just anyone will
be built the Yeah, I get Ben and there, like anyone they've built
assets for. Why not just throw them in that crazy mode Like that would
be so cool because a man, I don't know if I have this screenshot,
it's somewhere in our discord, which is a great place to go,
by the way. So it was absolutely a lot of stuff. But yeah,
on that on that multiplayer ambitions thing, there was like, okay,
multiplayer architecture, like they're working on that up until twenty twenty four, and
then they call it multiplayer one point oh. Is in twenty twenty four Spider
Man two, and then in twenty twenty six is when the Wolverine like Wolverine
Online launches and they call it multiplayer two point zero. And then when we
get to twenty twenty eight, they those two things merge and it's multiplayer three
point oh and it's x Men Online. That makes me think it could be
some sort of like big connective thing. And obviously there's some weirdness with X
Men. It be true Spider Man, but I don't know that's how they
wrote it on the A infograph. I don't know. This is yeah stuff
but yeah, and at least stuff too, right. It could be stuff
that they were playing, like look at what happened last week. Last of
Us was having a multiplayer Lives game and then gone just like that. You
know, obviously there's bill to but still like this could be something that they
tinker with, and then when they get close to going, you know what,
let's just stick to the solo game, like this is this is not
worth it. At the end of the day, we don't know when this
information was taken right, Like you said, the pivot happened, this could
all be information that was before that, And now Sony could have said,
you know that stuff you're working on, kill it, we don't want to
do, right, but that only no, no, no, I meant
just the multiplayer aspect, right, like they could say, don't do any
of that. We don't. Actually, I mean if Spider Man two is
supposed to come out, and yeah, you're right, like this document could
have been leaked from yeah, seven years ago or something or like that's when
it could have been made. Who knows, but yeah, I mean if
well, I guess the release dates of some of these newer things wouldn't necessarily
that way. I'm thinking like six months ago right onlines like certainly going to
happen right at this point next year, I thought so, But now I
do. And if you would ask me pre leak, I thought, no,
I didn't think that'd be a yeah, yeah, yeah, So I
feel like that's I mean, that's at the very least the testing ground.
And if they do that and no one cares, or make some zero money
or it's really buggy or something like that, and then maybe they just say,
ah, drop it. We're just gonna focus on Wolverine and Gene here
and then you still X Men. You just you don't have to do that
multiped three point zero. Let's hope integration down the line, like Suicaid Squad
being like, and sometime in twenty twenty four, we're gonna make an offline
mode in some toy you know, yeah, don't do that. Whatever you
do Insomniac Avengers, Suicaid Squad, you've seen happen, Just stay as far
away from from that, you know, just yeah, yep, stay away.
I think that's all for me on this are those things you forgot that
you wrote down right? Well? I was one of my questions was gonna
be just based on the footage, like and Wolverine moving around because of how
how much like movement options there are in Spider Man with those characters, And
I was like, Okay, is Wolvering gonna have some sort of equivalent?
But it's like, I don't know. If the game's more linear and smaller
scale, then I don't think you really need that. You know, he
can wall climb and run, yeah, he does, doesn't he doesn't need
like a motorbike. Like, It's not like we're being that big of a
big or anything. There was no motorbike in the league. There wasn't that.
It looked like he was doing a lot of grappling without a grapple like
So one more spoiler question on Spider Man two. Is it like obvious who
the villain could be the third one? You don't have to say who it
is, but oh, is it fairly obvious who you think the villain would
be of the third one? At this point? I think it's obvious for
who Venom and third one is Yes, okay, sounds good. Yeah,
there's one very non obvious thing that I'm excited for you to play because there's
an end credit. I was like, yeah, I was not expecting this,
and it adds to all just say, is it adds to the Spider
Man online stuff of having more options than just Peter and my Ales and Venom.
And it's not even character that you would think, like when you played
her here you beg really, that's a character they're bringing in. So there's
some stuff cooking over there. Interesting, man, I went, you know
Black Friday was happening. I was. I was dangerously close to buying a
PS five. I almost the deals kind of sucked. That's why I didn't
end up doing it. It was just like you get Spider Man for free,
essentially, I'm like, well, these games go on sale for like
ten dollars in a few months, so like what, that's not a great
deal. So I don't know. If the Spider Man two online thing is
really really cool, then maybe maybe that would be the time. But I
definitely thought like Wolverine will be the thing pushed me over the edge. But
if that isn't happened till twenty twenty six, then I have to imagine it'll
be something else that gets me in the door first. And do you think
because there was something that came a little bit beforehand, like there was like
the we had the leaks, and then there's a few things that came up
and the big thing happened, it kind of got overshadowed. But last week
there was a rumor of them working on like a Spider Verse type. It
gave meing just like a game with multiple Spider people. Do you think that's
just code for what the online might have been now instead, like they're not
making a Spider Man and Friends are making Let's say, like you said,
Ghsashshima where it's like you have your four or three types of Samurai. You
could be right or Ninja, same thing, like you could be Peter,
you could be Miles, you could be Venom, you could be blank.
You know. Yeah, I mean, I guess I could see that being
an integration in two. I guess just either Spider Man three or in online.
I didn't see anything about that one, so I don't really have another
infro on it. But yeah, I think that that could be a good
because I don't know, once again, in the way that you want to
keep reactioning up the intensity or intrig of these things, Like you gotta think
Spider Man three is gonna have some other new newbie in there. So is
that, Gwen? Is that just a full on multiversal thing where you can
bring in a couple other characters or even just slight variations of our characters now
with like some like half half step like move set differences. You know,
they have some of some of these moves some of the other ones, something
like that. I suppose I see in the chat. He said, from
what i've Okay, good, He's gonna let us know, he said,
from what I've seen the leaks. It seems that there are two different things.
The Spider Verse online game would be like a GTA on line level online.
Okay, wait for him to say the next week. So that seems
like the classic like Sony looking for their live service game, like you create
your own Spider Person. Oh fuck, that's a man. You know the
game the kids nowadays, we have the lego games for those that kind of
thing. Yes, but the kids nowadays that they get their summer break and
the games that they like. We had great games, but I'm just saying,
like, imagine right now having those Like you got two and a half
Marbling that was good. I know, but like you're telling me, and
if you're telling me, hey, Travis, there's a game that you d
be your own Spider Person created. Do whatever you get two months off of
school, have some fun, like fuck, man, Like, I'm surprised
you actually are that excited. I feel like you're not a very like big
into the character creator like you like to play established especially for Marvel stuff.
I like it's like the Hunter Midnight Zones, but I feel like generally you're
not a big fan of that country. But I like it because we already
have the Spider Man game. If it was let's say we go back to
twenty eighteen and it's like I want to take you on a roller coast and
it's like, oh, what's happening. It's like beat your own Spider person,
Like, ah, fuck this, I don't want you try to name
your character Peter and it like blanks. You're not about to make them Peter.
You can call them Parker Peter, but not Peter Parker. Like if
those gay, like even right now, if they said we did Spierman two,
we're done with Spider Man, I'd be completely fine. If those I
think says then I'd be bumped. But the fact that I got two great
Peter Parker Miles games and then even the third one, and then if I
got the create, that to me is something that's just that's mind blowing.
I did not see that, Like it's that's something I would sing way too
many hours into you fight World bosses together, like a venomized Sam and right,
I saw that there was a venom that was like Godzilla size and he
was a villain. Stuff like that that's in the constant art villains shoes,
Spider Man archetypes from Really that's what that was Spider Man Gwen two thousand and
nine. Oh my god. Yeah, there's just turning to be honest,
not really speaking to me. I don't think that would be the Spider Man
game for me personal it. No, you'd come in for a little bit.
I know you would. It was free to play, sure, all
downloaded. But I didn't even play Spider Man too. What are you talking
about? I'm not I'm not a die hard over here. I yeah,
I know, but like I just I just feel like if there's like a
some sort of want to create my own Spider Man, I don't care about.
Boy, He's not the thing that would sell me. Oh you know,
you should be the thing that sells me over here. Well, they're
making a Venom game. They're gonna you're gonna get that. I gonna replays
them in a game, but I you'll want more of it's smart though,
it's I don't know you you'd make some fun characters, you know, you
make your fark Fuckle Lombardi Spiderman version malcol Lombardi. I don't yeah, yeah,
I don't know, but I would love that. At first, few
think it was cancer, but now it seems like it was never green that
now has been green light. Oh that's fine. Yeah, I think we
covered it all. Uh yeah, I think so. Thank god Kirklin Tarror
weren't here because we're at two thirteen already and it's just you and me,
so there's lots of talk about So I hope we even cut topics too.
There. Yeah, I cut. I'm glad I cut the truths, which
we'll probably talk about on the twenty twenty four wee because lots of the are
coming on look good. So yeah, I hope in the new year,
when you're like, oh, where's the news, you got a nice,
juicy episode right here, almost two and a half hours, and like I
said, we'll be back. We'll be talking about other stuff. But usually
January slows down. But yeah, look out for you know, there'll be
an X Men cast of some sort. We'll probably be talking. Well maybe
I'm not sure when Dylan schedule that because Xtra ninety six, but you could
double dip. You could do one for ninety seven and then one for I
mean yeah, I mean, at the very least, I I just wanted
to come out and you're ninety seven, so absolutely could record that. Whenever
throw it up on Patreon like three months early. You know, that's the
X Men animated, So yeah, who knows, it'll happen at some point.
Yeah, so January, there'll be slower movies, games, somefing like
that. But we got lots of good content. So if we don't talk
to you in the news like sentiment, thank you very much. Have a
good holidays. If you had some time, all, spend time with your
family. And if not, just go go see Wonka. If you have
no family, you don't care about Christmas, Christmas holily, go see Wonka
twenty fifth. Maybe we'll bump into Taylor, maybe we'll bump into Dylan.
Let them know your thoughts on it, you know, So till next time,
I'll be boring. Se uh