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Welcome to Ion the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve
Riverta, He's Jacin Zos. Got our guy Kevin in today. How about
them Lions? About them lions, man, but keep it on your hex
your your hexes and your pins and needles. I didn't I didn't bet anything
last night. I didn't bet on the Lions, so obviously they will cover.
And I did not bet on the Diamondbacks, although I'm getting text messages
and emails and stuff from people saying that I wrecked the Diamondback. Yes,
I said on the I joked on the show that I was gonna put a
hundred bucks on him because Magruder said they were gonna win. You guys,
what did I tell you guys? Don't listen to Jack or you. You
guys have been wrong twice now. So I did not. I had nothing
to do with anything that happened last year. Wink. But first. But
first let's get to the news of the day. Yeah, what in the
world is going on with Kirk Chris. I don't know. I don't think
it did. It sounds like he did something not so good. That word
that's worthy of nine game suspension? Nine games? You know what that The
funny thing is people are are are mocking is that Bill South got four games
for all that FBI stuff and the and the money stuff, money Launders and
all that stuff. And Kirk Creasa probably took, you know, a couple
of pairs of basketball shoes from somebody, and he's got nine games. We
don't know, we have nobody knows, nobody has said. But the impermissible
benefits are But what could it be that would cause them to get nine games?
Yeah, there was something in the ESPN story. Did you see the
Myra mencalf Here's a line in it. A source told ESPN that and the
NCAA would not get involved if any international student received the nil deal, and
it would not be considered in person impermissible benefit. So that's very strange.
Oh so maybe he did get some sort of benefit and then the nc double
A decided to go after him. Is that what he's kind of implying there,
well it's not an NC double A. But well they're not gonna get
involved with all that. Well they just did, right, they did as
gotten involved because they're the ones that suspended it. Because there is there is
some loopholes for international players. Right, they can't get certain things because I
have work bes blah blah Blahright, but I think that they're still allowed to
publish. They're not allowed to go work. But I think you know that
this money, the instance that Arizona assist raises and just hands out to the
I think they can get some of that, but for instance, they can't
go to the golf tournament and get paid for their time at that golf tournament
that Arizona assisted. I think that's what I recall hearing from Adam Lass when
you talk to you said there are some benefits that that that the international players
can get, but under their under their student visas, they can't work and
can't hold the job. So there's something like that. So who knows.
Well, but that's what complicates the whole thing, and it's it's the when,
right when was it under Sean or was it under you know, Steve
yd in a situation like this, it's so public. Why doesn't somebody,
why don't they just tell us? Right? Because I don't know what you
know, why doesn't West Virginia or even Kirk come out and say, look,
this is what it is. Well, privacy rights, private kids.
I know, I get that, I get that, so but somebody can't
you know, somebody can come out and say this is what happened. You
know, Kirk cries, it can get from me to say, okay,
this is what he did, just so you guys know it's not as bad
as you think it is, or it's worse than you thought it was.
But here's what I did, you know what I mean? Yeah, such
a public thing. Maybe he will eventually, you remember he already this is
equivalent a mission an entire year. And let me say why because remember when
he first got right, he missed first half of the sea half the season.
Now he's making the first half of this one, right, so it's
almost he's right season. He's running a seasons right, right. But I
you know, I don't know, I don't know how you evaluate or you
know, change whatever the rules and the policies are, as far as it's
goes. Because it's so public yet I understand, you know, the privacy
laws whatever, but you know, something happened. It affects a basketball program
that people put a lot of money into. Sure, I think they have
a right to know. Yeah, yeah, but they're not. Unless something
comes out, they won't know. But let me say this, who was
I gonna go with this? Okay, So Arizona's on a three year of
probation, right, yeah, stemming from whatever back in the day. Yeah,
and here we are, well and this is one of those things though
that you know, how does how did the U of A know? Well,
we don't know if the U of A you they had to have been
they had to have been told before all this stuff broke last night or whatever
it broke, you knew, they already knew. It was very strange.
And let me just say that that the U. Because you're gonna you're an
investigated guy. Oh yeah, as far as that goes. You're talking about
what did they know when it was happening? Oh yeah, they maybe I
don't know, right, No, just well in August. No, but
while Kerr was taking whatever pissible benefits he was taking, how were they supposed
to know? They were that's how it happens. You don't know, Yeah,
you don't know. Now do you punish the school for that? Or
do you just punish Kerr for that? Well, I mean, in its
infinite wisdom, I'm sure the n C Double A is looking for a way
to panelize Arizona for that. Well, look at you speaking like a fan.
Well, because that's what the n C Double A does. They penealized
the wrong people all the time. I'm not I'm not saying you're gonna pick
on her. I'm not saying it's just because it's Arizona. I'm saying they
so often panelized the wrong people, like the as football players at sure on
the roster this year, panelized for the crap that Herm Edwards and Antonio.
That's just what it is. That's what sins of the father. That's that's
what I say. So does you know does this team? Does this team
get penalized for what Kirka did if he did, say last year? Man,
I don't know that. I don't know, because it would it would
adventure to guess it. It takes some time to look into this unless they
already started the clocking this and now that they're on probation already, right,
that well, it exacerbates the whole thing. Yeah, because what's your probation.
You can't keep you can't you got God doing more stuff, you get
in bigger trouble. Right, this this would be a crushing blow if it's
serious. But according to one of the guys that we work with, sure,
there's kind of nothing there. Yeah, and he s, that's what
the impression of the thing is. What you believe or what you want to
believe, that's on your own. But he kind of infers that, right,
yeah, he said, he said, it's not what you think it
is, so and he probably knows. I mean, I can think the
worst though. Yeah, you can do no, of course, you course
I can. I can go down into the depth of my brain and the
others. I got a lot of Texas morning saying you know what's going on?
I said, I know as much as you do. And I and
you you requested the will. I asked if if Arizone was going to issue
a statement, I still haven't heard. I've been at the most and Kevin
wants to say something the most, I'll probably reacknowledge that that something has been
done and we're and that's all we can say. Yeah, you know,
oh nothing. I was just gonna like quick mention that, well, yes,
you could be thinking the worst if it's if you're optimist and you're thinking,
oh, he probably just what well thing what if well, it's it's
minor enough or major enough to create a nine game suspension. Nine games is
a lot. That's almost In the ESPN article that you referenced, they said
that West virgin didn't find out until August, right, it's likely that Arizona
might have found out about the same time. If yeah, no question,
that's there's no questions. Yeah, and Curt's not telling anybody where he's getting
whatever he's getting until and and may may not have okayed anything when he got
it. You know, when you're gonna get something, to check with the
school and see if it's okay. He probably didn't. Didn't When did he
leave? Right? Yeah? Yeah, right after the May after this,
Okay, so you know it didn't happen in May, May, June,
July, August, it already had happened, right, Yeah, during the
school year, old school year of which year, that's the whole thing.
And it doesn't matter which year, No, no, no, it doesn't.
It doesn't. Well it does in a way because well the damage is
but done any year, and any let's say he did it while Sean Miller
was still here, while he was still playing Sean, then you know,
obviously Tommy Lloyd is completely off the hook. But if it happened, you
know, while tom you know, and while he was playing here for Tommy
Lloyd, then you know, how much does the finger get pointed at at
Tommy in the current program. So so let me, uh, sometimes you're
funny, it's rare Jay, but you you had that I'm funny, but
you said something did it made me laugh on your text to me or to
us, And that was if they didn't hate him, they do not do
no just because he didn't like Mexican foods. First of all, two months
ago, remember two months ago? Now this, but really, I mean,
you know, yeah, look, there are so many people here that
you could be mother Teresa, and if you do something bad to theirs on
the basketball program, you're off your your you know, no, your band
head bands are being burned right now. Yeah, hey, you were in
that Kurt Jersey. Yeah, it's for Steve whoever, whoever's got the kerr
Crock is setting on fire as we speak. You know, I saw some
guys with Kurt jerseys last night, and I'm sure you said I got it
for Steve Kerr not but remember the big deal over his crock and they you
know, whoever's got that is probably gonna toss that as well. So you
know, you can't you can't do stuff to the to the basketball program and
people get upset. Man. Yeah, it's just un fortunate, unfortunate.
I'm sure we'll we'll find out something soon. Okay, I just found uh
he ate he went into the transfer portal on July eighth. Oh no,
but that was the last year. No, that was the second time.
No, last year, yeah, I mean this year twenty twenty three.
Yeah, yeah, no, But remember he was leaving in the spring after
the the Ternament and then he went and he went to Virginia. He left
because Huggins got into trouble and then decided to come back. That's the second
time. That's the second time he got into it. Oh you're you're okay,
I see what you're saying. Okay, that he went in twice.
Yeah, he went in twice. So I'm thinking he went in in May,
right, after the tournament, because he had already said we had him
on the show when in May? Oh, it says here, okay,
now there's an April fifth art about this when he committed to West Virginia,
right, right, right, So then we had him on the show,
remember right after that? Yeah? Yeah, okay, all right, so
it would have been right, it would have been right after the NCAA tournament
then, yeah, he tell you, yeah, then we had him in
mid May. I'm in April. Yeah, and then he decided good,
you know, whatever you know it is. I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't think he's a bad guy, but you know,
he I mean, I'm sure he knew what the hell he was doing,
right, he had to have known that what he was doing was breaking
a rule? Did he? I mean, don't you think it depends on
what he did? And I mean, well, we're only gonna be able
to speculate. I mean, they're there, you know, I guess until
somebody goes and dosing guts. They're allowing us to do that because they're right.
And guess what we do on the show. We speculate. Speculation is
my middle name. Yeah? Was that popular at the time. Or was
that like unique decision for your parents just trying It was a it was a
thing. It was a thing. It was the thing at the time.
So again, uh, you know it's I mean, you know what,
Well, we're gonna have Bruce pasco On, who I'm sure chasing woke up
this morning. It was all bright eyed and bushy tailed, and you're going
to talk about last night's game and you know, all the things. And
then all of a sudden, this thing blows across the across the wire and
now he's busy working on this, just another one of those things, knowing
you wish didn't come along, knowing that, knowing that they're not going to
talk well last night, Henry, Henry is in a sling right, he's
not walking and he was limpy. He was not right walking correctly, and
they wouldn't say how it happened or when it happened. He got in a
wreck of some sort, fell stairs. No, no, no, I
think the golf course fell out of a golf cart. So you go ahead
and do your speculation. Jay, it's hard to get hurt on the golf
course. Well, they were, they had the things, unless they had
that golf tournament unless you like crash a golf if you're fooling around a golf
course a golf cart. Hell, I ran over some dude one time because
it is his right elbow and his right leg. Okay, he might have
flew out. Yeah, being the passenger, you guys, you know what.
I've crashed a golf cart and you know it's going to crash, and
so you jump. Well, when you're an international player, you don't know
any of this because you don't it's probably harder for him to jump out of
the golf cart. And you see those videos on top of you or whatever.
If it's a golf course injury, Well that's kind of don't you think
we would have heard that though people? Yes, yes, but not we.
I know Bruce did, and I know Shane Dale didn't because he mentioned
that this morning in a tweet that did something happened last week? And have
got the golf and and uh And Bruce asked Tommy the speculation is or a
word on the street or whatever it was in a golf cart and he got
a little irritated and said, no, I'm not going to tell you the
specifics of it, but what is the difference. It's it's again, that's
what they do. We're living that day. But the I mean it,
actually it would kind of be like, oh, you crashed a golf cart,
bummer, kind of funny. Well, it's like it's like like plo,
you got the bike accident. Yea, how severe? Well severe enough
to go in all this. He still hasn't played, yeah, or he
tried to. But but now you've got other stuff. But you know he
doesn't play, you know. Oh man, we'll get to with Bruce and
we'll see what he's dug up in the last few hours. But I know
he's busy. I hate these stories, are hate because you know you're not
gonna get any help. You're not get any help. No, fine,
And we live in a world of no sources because you need to have sources,
right And here we are all right, here we are right Halloween night,
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the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, you're Jay.
You've got Kevin here, and we dropped the ball on Eye on the Ball
as walk's going down the good ball. We got busy raging about Halloween and
whether it's a good holiday or not. But we'll get to that in a
minute. But waiting for Bruce Pasco to give us a call and we'll talk
to him about what the heck is going on with Kirk Resa. But we
don't talk to some of the basketball stuff. We didn't. We didn't talk
about the last SATs game, which is one of the boring, most boring
games I've ever been to. Well, you know it was. It was
a weird game because it looked like Arizona's ain't really bad but the shooting percentage
wasn't awful. They had eighteen steels, but they had all those turnovers and
that that made it look messy. Well, the crowd was not very good,
and who's terrible crowd? Who's gonna go and watch that game? Right?
I know that team. I know one of the coaches on the team,
and I was like, what am I doing here? Some right neighborhood
and what am I doing here? And I told I told sheerho was next
to my god, I want to go home, which is no one's keeping
you because it was like it was bad. You saw the turnovers and the
shots and the blah blah blah. But when when they're sloppy like that,
they're they're kind of messy, they're they're sometimes they're hard to track the thing
for you to turn over steel turnover, steel turnover, you know all that
stuff. And you know we didn't fall behind them. Yeah, we did
fine all night, but it was just those sloppy games like that, those
are those are harder than you know. Then you can have a game where
they both teams score one hundred points, but if there's flow to it,
you know, it's it's not a problem asked Tommy. I asked, Tommy,
you know, what do you get out of this? And uh,
he said, I'll get anything out of anything. You know. Good bad
teacher. I'm a teacher. Yeada YadA. But you know, I was
thinking the one thing I wanted to ask him, but I didn't want to.
I thought it maybe a stupid question. If you're playing fast like they
do, right, they play fast? Is it tougher to do that than
going to happen? Right? But that's what they do. Bruce's is you
Bruce's shoe? Yeah? Sorry about that, Bruce. We got talking about
Halloween. Do you like Halloween or not? Of course? Okay, Steve,
Steve's just a grump. I don't like working on Halloween. Yeah,
exactly. Well, here you are trick or treat today. You got tricked.
You got tricked bad today, Bruce. Yes, So what the heck
is going on? I'm sure you probably trying to track it down. Yeah,
I mean I could have to jump off the phone here at any minute
if I hear anything. But I mean, Arizona said nothing then I did.
This astounds me because it's not clear whether it was an Arizona issue,
whether it was the West Virginia issue, whether it was under Sean Miller,
whether it was under Tommy Lloyd, when it was under Bobby Huggins, or
were their interim coach or nobody knows anything at this point. And Arizona is
also under probation right now, so you think they'd want to clear it up
if they don't have anything to do with this. So so the big question
is, Okay, he's an international player, what is he allowed and what
isn't he allowed? Well, the basic the rule of thumb is that,
you know, there's still a lot of gray area over that nil for internationals,
but the basic rule of thumb is that what everybody's going by is if
it's passes income, that's okay. And that is what most of these guys
are getting now. They're passive income there. They're members of a collective.
They go to a thing or two and then somebody pays them fifty thousand bucks
or whatever it might be, and that's considered passive income. But they're not
really working for it. They can't go to findings or you know or or
you know, want one for one things like that, or you know,
be at a at a car dealership or something like that they can't. They
can't do that because that's considered work. And the whole spirit of it is
apparently that if you if you work as an international as an international student,
you're you're not allowed to work because that potentially is taking an American citizen out
of out of the job. You know, That's that's the theory. Anyway,
That's what we said, Right, you can't go, but they can
they can accept income like from Jersey sales or stuff like that. Is that
isn't that right? Yeah, well they can. Yeah, they just can't
do anything for it. Somebody else has to market it and and all that.
And you thought you've seen even Arizona sists has you know, they had
Tobello's jerseys that they're selling and giving Tobellas whatever dollar whatever of that every time
it's sold. And that's perfectly fine because he's not working for it. The
key is are you working for it? And it? And it is a
big gray area. But that's that's the thing. But I think most of
the time now it's it's it's almost a mood point because so much of the
percentage of what these guys are making is from these collectives and they don't in
a lot of cases, they can kind of work it so that it's not
considered uh you know, actively working for it. So so it kind of
leaves it open that maybe he was doing something that he really wasn't one hundred
percent sure was against the rules and then you know, they said no,
you can't do that, or he was doing something that he knew was against
the rules and was did it anyways, I mean, the the the gap,
you know, it can be anywhere in there. Right. Yeah,
there's a lot of there's just a ton of questions here, and and you
know, I mean I just think they I think they're in it's in their
best interest that they can answer them. I don't know, and I'm guessing
that's why we haven't heard anything, because they're probably still trying to figure out
how they're going to address this. But yeah, there's there's and there's also
you know, her Crisa came to Arizona before NIO rules even went into effect.
Maybe he was talking about something that happened back then that might be legal
now we don't know, you know, or or it's possible he took you
know, made some Nile arrangement. Wall enrolled in Arizona that somebody at West
Virginia or or somebody in there, you know, some booster somebody said hey,
you know we can do this. That's illegal because that's that's considered a
pay per flay inducement and that is not allowed in NIL. But again,
a lot of gray area with this stuff, and we all know that that
you know that it's being used in many different ways. Didn't the didn't the
statement though from West Virginia say that this occurred while he was at Arizona.
Yeah, it said Wall enrolled at Arizona. And initially, when I first
looked at I thought, oh, he must have done something here, and
then he and they and then he talked about it at West Virginia. But
when I read it again, it is possible that that that that word says
Wall enrolled at Arizona. It is possible it's somebody or something or something regarding
not you of a maybe West Virginia, maybe somebody else for that matter.
You know, maybe Creasta was saying, hey, some but a school X
offered me this or that, or I was getting checks from so and so
even before I came here. If anything like that could be, it could
be possible because they haven't defined this here. And in fact, I even
asked West Virginia their spokesman and he said, we're not I said, what
was the timeline? He said, we're not sharing anything else. So they
don't want to say and Arizona hasn't said anything yet, so you know,
the silence is speaking pretty loudly here that that, you know, it would
seem like one of these schools. You know, maybe it happens, but
we don't know. That doesn't surprise you, does it. No? No,
I mean, you know, part of it is, I'm sure that
part of it is there's always you know, you've got to run everything by
a lawyer and you're you know, your your compliance guys, and it takes
a long time for them sometimes to come up with the proper thing to say
because they don't want to get sued. And that's that's certainly, you know,
maybe maybe that's what's going on here as well. I don't know,
but no, no, Steve, I mean absolutely not. You know,
it always these things always take time, and for all we know, it
took West Virginia. I mean, West Virginia said they've potentially learned about this
in August, and here we are on Halloween and they're they're just announcing it
now, So it took them two full months to really get to this point.
Even how much do you pull your hair out on a day like this?
I mean, you just hate this? Well, you know it's funny
because it's fun day. Because I I've been telling people like, this is
literally the first time since I think twenty fifteen when there hasn't been something going
on in the preseason either FBI or NBA or ARP or Alonzo Treer, you
know, with whatever he did you know, and or there or something else
in the pre season one of those years. Almost every year it seems like
in October I'm working on our special sections for the beginning of the season,
covering exhibition games, trying to write daily stories, and then there's some other
kind of issue going on. So there really hasn't been anything. So I'm
kind of I was kind of like in this case, I'm like, oh,
okay, well, this is like it almost feels normal. Right,
here's the thing, right, here's the thing that's been missing. No,
no, I'm going to play Bruce. I'm gonna blame I'm gonna blame you,
Bruce. You know why, you just called a no hitter, you
call the no hitter, and then the bottom You're right, but this happens.
Yeah, yeah, but you know, okay, let's let's I think
you've been seen that we'll all find out what happened. Uh, but it's
worthy of a nine game suspensions. Was it's not a not a not a
light light not a light suspension. Yeah, I mean nine games. I
think that that translates to thirty percent of the regular season. It seems to
be a pretty common kind of what do you call it, like a common
number that they come up with in these kind of situations. And it usually
means you've taken something worth not a whole lot, but but it's you know,
at least a four figure amount of something. And and that's I know
what I'm guessing. But again, you know, I don't know yet.
I'm just part of the based on part of this whole thing. Guys,
And you wake up in the morning, you see this, this is well,
isn't everything off the record off the limits? Now because of the n
I L and who gets trucks and who gets cars and blah blah blah,
who gets bags? And now okay, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
But now you still have this whatever he did, right, Yeah,
and then you know there's two things there that well, there's three things.
Actually could be that it happened before the rules went into effect, which was
after his spressing season. Maybe something happened when he was coming here. He
was recruited over Zoom during the pandemic, I mean, it was who knows,
and you know, but and then there's a possibility that, you know,
something he did as an international student that wasn't cool, or it's possible
that you know, there's still there's still something, especially if the schools are
involved. You know, the schools are still not allowed to pay players beyond
their scholarships and stipends and that extra fifty two eighty fond or whatever it is
they can't pay. They're supposed to have boosters do it through collectives and other
actions, and so it's possible that you know, something happened there, or
or you know there's just yeah, there's just there still is a lot of
things. But but you're right, Steve, I mean as far as like
your your average player taking money or taking a free dinner from so and so
a booster of the program, that's perfectly fine. Everybody can do all that
and they do it, so so yeah, we know it's not that at
least during the last two years, maybe before that, but maybe it's something
else. Okay, let's talk about the game real quick, or another coach,
you know, Tommy who we all like, I didn't tell you what
happened with with Henry. I mean, and you know you kind of know
what happened. I guess, yeah, yeah, I mean literally like I
had, I had like two people that I really know things, and you
know, and and I've seen it elsewhere too, that it was definitely a
result of the golf event they had, I think it was last Friday,
and uh, you know, and you know, it appeared to involve something
that happened with a golf cart that that he heard his arm on and they
didn't want to say. And it's possible there's always Purpa and Hippa and all
this stuff. It's possible that they're trying to protect whoever did this, you
know, whether maybe he did it to himself. We don't know. You
know. Once again, I think, you know, I think fans would
like to know exactly what happened. I don't know, and that's why we
asked, And so I just asked, Tommy, hey, I had heard
it was a golf cart. Didn't need to get hurt by did he?
He was that true? And you heard what he said. He just said,
yeah, Well I'm not going to get into specifics, so I don't
you know, but he didn't deny it. He didn't look angry. He
just that's what he said. He just kind of took it a different direction
stuff. So, you know, whatever, whatever, it really doesn't make
that much difference. We just know it wasn't off the court saying it appeared
to be somebody was doing something maybe not what you normally do with on a
golf course, you know. And but the bottom line is he's going to
be out for a while. And it sounded like, and Tommy kind of
alluded to this that it sounded like it looked like it could have been a
lot worse. I mean, you know, I mean that duck. You
know, you don't want to hurt your elbow as a basketball player, and
you know, like like like that. But but they say, you know,
it sounds like he might be back. Who knows. I think they're
still trying to figure that out, but it might be you know, It
might be a few weeks, might be a few months, but I don't
think it's season ending from what I understand. Well, he didn't look good
on the court yesterday. He was limping and he was wearing baggy sweatpants.
But from where I was sitting, it looked like he had some kind of
a brace on his leg or something so on his right leg. Oh yeah,
I don't even know. I mean, that's the thing too, like
he could have heard that he had it on his I think it was his
writing. Cool. He sprained that and he needed a high sprain last July,
and he's had a lot of trouble coming back for that. He went
with them to the Middle East but didn't really play, and then you know,
just been sitting super limited. And then he came into thinking red blue,
but he video hasn't been fully you know himself, and then and then
this happened, and it's just it's almost like at this point he probably he
probably don't count on him to do much this year the way look right?
Okay, Well, as the world turned a quick impression of the game last
night, I mean, do we see anything useful you know last night that
means anything or I mean, it was a messy game. You no,
not really, Jay, I don't don't really. I mean, you know,
I think it was one of those deals they I mean, they certainly
you know the fact that they they dished twenty eight. It's just the thirty
four turnovers. I think it was for thirty one boucks. Excuse me.
That's super high and that's that's the kind of ball they like to play.
But the twenty four turnovers careless. I think it was a classic case of
playing down to their competition a little. Plus. New Mexico Highlands had some
guys who were kind of quick to the ball, and so if they made
a sloppy cast, those guys got it and they I think they had eighteen
steals. So I just thought it was the Crassic case where they're just not
getting much out of playing these kind of things. I mean, usually in
the spot, they're usually playing one exhibition and then and then a closed scrimmage
against a good team. They played Saint Mary's last couple of years. They
probably would have got a lot more out of that, but they can't do
it because they agreed to play all these neutral site games this year and they
have they have to be a Michale for eighteen games or you know, that's
their minimum. So that's why they got in this fine. So I didn't
get much out of it other than to see, you know, the two
big guys follow and previous came back from injuries, and they both look like
they're you know, they're they're they're you know, they're getting there certainly,
and and Rosie seems look a lot more comfortable too, I think. But
but other than that, I'm a whole lot all right. Okay, Bruce,
thanks a bunch for coming onto this last second. Keep at it,
Bruce, have fun, appreciate you, all right, Okay, tagure,
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on the Ball with Steve and Jay Gonzalez Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey,
welcome back to Eying the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve,
You're Jay, got Kevin behind the board. We're ready to roll for
the next fifteen minutes. It looks like give us a call, let us
snow what's going on? What you think about? What? Actually? More
like? Yeah, maybe thirteen fifteen thirteen. Whatever, give us some quick
call. Let's know what we're doing, what we're up about doing against whatever.
Whatever I'm saying. I don't know what the hell I'm saying. Kerr
basketball, What did you What were your impressions last night? You could get
much out of it. I just did with the turnovers and the shooting,
YadA YadA. Yeah, you know, wait, did you know how did
he look? What? Thing? Creevous is like a monster? He's like,
Oh, the big dude due that dude, he looks. Do you
see that one time they threw him the ball? It was like it was
like you remind me of when I played basketball against Adam when he was five.
Yeah, you know, I've just got the ball up here. They're
jumping up to the ball and then he just drops it in the back.
He's a big dude, dude. They're gonna be pretty good in the middle.
He's he's not an athletic. He's not athletic, but he still has
some good footwork and made a few moves. He'll get some rebounds. He's
a better ristic, a better a better foregned guy, you know, bigger,
bigger guy. He's gonna put the ball in the hole just because he's
so damn tall, and there's gonna be some guys who can't get to it.
When when you're when you can make Umar Ballow look smallish, smallish.
Here, we got a call her, try try back, Sorry about that.
We didn't see a light, Lincoln, but give us a call back,
whoever was calling. You know, he's just a big dude, and
so he's gonna get some rebounds, he's gonna move some people around, he's
gonna block. There were a couple of times if those guys went into the
lane trying to put the ball and I'm talking about the guards like they were
dudes. Don't come in there like that. You can't. You're on the
air and I on the ball. How's it going this happen? Man?
What's up? Brian? Hey, Brian, were you getting were you were
you giving Kirk krisa money? Hey? You guys got more money than I
do, so you know, well, yeah, but you're retired post office
dude, you got all kinds of don't tell me, hey, I was
just wondering. Obviously, whatever Carisa did it was a hundred times worse whatever
Bill self did it, because he got nine games yeah, who knows what
it was. But yeah, there's a lot of people saying then that uh
you know, uh they you know, Kirk Crisa got punished for what uh
Bill self did. Yeah, I mean it's just it's just it's just amazing.
But the NC double it is, I mean, it's just a joke.
Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, I mean, you
can get caught on the phone telling a kid you give him, give them
money, and they don't get any punishment. Is shocked. I'm shocked too.
I'm shocked to nine games, man, that's a lot. But as
Bruce said, like thirty of the season, which is just a ton.
Yeah. Hey, I said, I sent you a picture, Jake.
I saw it. That was pretty good. That was actually kind of funny.
It was he sent a picture of Aaron Judge, a guy dressed as
Aaron Judge, an adult, like about the six foot three adult with like
a two year old kid, saying, Aaron Judge and jose L two V
picture that. Jay, I do want to thank you for yesterday because of
you. I didn't I hardly ever bet on baseball, but I did and
I took the Rangers yesterday only because you said the diamondbacksmart No, Magruder said
the Diamondbacks were gonna win. I said I was gonna throw money on it,
which I didn't, but they still don't. So small. At the
end of the show, you were saying about go Diamondbacks, and that was
enough for me. Oh okay, smart man, smart man. All right,
Brian, thanks about and then also one thing to see, stay home
and hand out candy tonight. Come on, No, let me tell you
something. I live in a place where there's like five houses in my neighborhood.
You have to walk miles and stuff, so no one's no one's come
to my house in years years. Sees that guy that turns out all the
lights and goes goes into his bedroom with a candle on and doesn't even turn
on the TV because he doesn't want to. He's home. Yeah, yeah,
this guy's. This guy's a downer for every holiday. He really is.
I don't know. I don't know how he became friends because I'm not
Brian, and you said you were becoming more and more likely just well not
today because I'll pass out the candy. I'm not gonna be like you there
to go right you? Yeah, all right, thanks Brian. Okay,
do you letter Brian's way to heave it? Oh, my gosh, to
funny, I think your clock is off up there, Kevin supposed to go
out it for minutes too. Yeah, so it's eight minutes, right,
we have more time than he says. Oh we have less time. It
sits three forty nine. Okay, Oh you're right, never mind, Sorry
to doubt you, Kevin. My math is off. My math is off,
all right, Steve, I don't know, you know, you know
you get tired of the side stuff, right, you just want to talk
basketball, dude, Dude, I went through it. At the end of
the Loot stuff, it was it was not fun, And then the Sean
stuff, it was not fun. Uh. It's chasing down, like like
Rue said, you think you're free setting it's a good time. You're not
chasing down anybody. You're not making calls, hoping for being held lostage by
your phone and getting beat on a score. Somebody comes out thinking about those
kind of days are over. Those kind of days are over because the Star
doesn't have a competition outside of the Internet. Guys who probably know who,
probably know what's going on, but they're in bed with the people yeah,
well and then and yeah, and maybe they know stuff, but they agree
not to say and sure, sure, and that's fine. I mean,
we all have our lives. Yeah, but I don't know. I just
dang it. Well, someone posted something on our Twitter, yeah, saying
some of the sours well yeah, yeah, basically saying that it doesn't have
anything to do with you. No, okay, then maybe it doesn't.
Then does that ease your your worst fears? No, no, it's not.
You know, I'm not afraid of anything here. We do because I
feel because I feel like I feel like, you know, if it's something
that Kirk Risa did, what what are you supposed to do with a program?
Right? What are they gonna do? Take away some whatever games he
played in while he was doing this? You know, who gives a crap
about that? Right? I'm just I just don't like the conversation. You
go on social media and say, well, there they go again at Arizona.
You know, they they you know, they're cheating again or whatever.
Of course, you know you hate having that wrap, that wrap, but
they've got it and there's nothing they can do about. You know, the
rap they got caught up in the FBI thing, whether they did anything really
bad or not, their name is attached to it. And now that stuff
comes along just the way we talk about you know, whether it's s MU
football or Miami football or you know, Kansas basketball or whatever. That that
thing gets hung on you and it's hard to get rid of it, and
it doesn't go away. It's not gonna go away in our lifetimes. Right,
people talk about Arizona and the messes they've been in rules wise, until
we kick, I'm pretty sure. So that's the part that I hate about.
Yeah, well, that's just how it is nowadays. It's supposed to
hear given the situation. Yeah, that's all. That's all. But getting
back to the GACTU game last night, you know it felt like a game
that they would rather have not been played. Yes, yes, And that's
why I asked the question, what do you get out of it? And
you get everything out of it because because you you know, you be the
team that you're supposed to be. I joked to with the year next to
me. I said, what's the line? I said, fifty, it's
about thirty eight. I think they went by thirty thirty maybe, yeah,
thirty whatever, one like mid to maybe after the ten minute mark of the
second half, Arizona was only winning the second half. But like a point
right right, it's actually, you know, what's the motivation? I mean,
honestly, what's the motivation. It's just like, you know, just
think that the walk Ons, we're waiting to get in the game. You
hope not to get hurt. You hope not to get hurt. That's the
thing, you know. I mean, I still like what I see.
I still it doesn't look like they have the knockdown shooter. No, you
know what, that's a good point. They might have a bunch of guys
who can make threes, but not a guy who's going to make a three
when you absolutely need a three. You know who? You know who I'm
going to on the perveter Caleb Love. I think I'm going to go to
him for a basket, okay, but I'm going to go to Boswell.
Boswell is so so stoic, so good. I mean, he doesn't take
many shots, maybe he should, but he's pretty pretty solid from there.
He's got a quick trigger. That's what you like, is that guy who
catches and can shoot right away. He's just not He's not a great shooter,
but he can be a good pretty good. He's a nondescripted player,
but a good one doesn't make sense. Yeah, because he's a bigger dude.
He's got a callin the reeves kind of body, big body. But
he's good, but he doesn't look it. He's not not Caleb Love.
Right, Hey, Caleb Love, Caleb Love, jayde Bradley and and and
kJ Lewis all have the same body. They are all the same guy,
wiry, and they do the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, but you
need a stable guy like Boswell to kind of put together and maybe that'll be
his role. I mean, clearly they're athleticism. Athleticism of this team is,
particularly on the perimeter, is off the charts. I mean, Palla
Larson hasn't even played and they still look really good out there with Keisha Johnson,
Uh, Philip Boren and hasn't. Yeah, doesn't not quite. It
doesn't seem quite there. Yeah, And we said I went on a limb.
I thought he's gonna have a good year. A couple of people said,
don pull a bit, remember they called it. I agreed with it.
I still don't. It's it's one game in this one, don't or
two games in don't. I wouldn't worry about that because he's gonna have his
moments. He's gonna have his moments. The thing is where he fits in.
That's where he said, right, how much is Yeah, he's gonna
hit He's gonna hit some shots. So we talk about the top eight guys,
okay, talk about the four guards Okay that we just talked about,
and he said he's gonna whittle down right, Keishad Johnson okay, okay,
Pellett Larson as six, Lumar Bellows seven previous or or or or Dylan Anderson
eight, nine. You know where where you fit? I think nine,
maybe nine. Henry's out now yeah, no, I think the eight or
nine in nine or ten. He's learned that he needs depth. He needs
the depth, that's sure. He'd learned that, right, so he could
go ten deep. See what happens. Yeah, I still like him.
I still like him. I'm not gonna give up on him. Then there's
Mark there, there's the Martinez kid. Oh, the Martin He's gonna be
rich, I'm sure ye. But the other kid, the other one,
Mark American America whatever it is. The other kid. I don't have my
box score. But Mark Martinez, who we who we joke on along the
sideline day. He looks like he looks like teen wolves. Reminds us of
wolf. Paulis paul Yeah, yeah, Paulis Polis, Paulius, Maruscus,
yeah, Maruscus. All right, we gotta get out of here. Top
of the hour. All right, we're gonna be back. It's gonna be
breaking news. We'll see what what Kevin's cooked up for us. Let's stick
around. It was a graveyard. It caught home in a fly. He
did the monster