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Podcast. Okay, all right,
let me start this over. Hello,

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everybody, welcome to Games Your Dark
Episode one hundred and twenty seven. Now

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a sound, now, a sound
that'll make no sense for the audio listeners.

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I'm your host this week, John
Luke Psike, and I'm joined by

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an all star cast. I got
Michael p Him what a dude, baby.

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I have Aaron Sampson. Who have
you been on this podcast before?

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Probably not, but I have been
a game spot for a really long swinging

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by and say hi, I was
in the background. I wasn't even born

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by when Aaron started working here ancient
times. Uh. And then I'm also

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joined by another newcomer, Uh,
Tom Caswell, Tom, how's it going?

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It's go Live from New York,
The Life from New York. It's

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it's uh, it's Friday. It's
Thursday afternoon. It feels like a Friday's

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it feels like a Friday. I
am so excited that we can talk about

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this game just so like it's it's
done. There's no more like things hanging

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in the air. It's all out
there now. We can Yes, we

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have ninety nine percent of things.
We can just talk about it. So

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I'm really excited thank you for having
me, of course, absolutely. So.

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Yeah, it's it's a pretty big, pretty big week because Starfield came

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out, and uh so I just
had to put together an all star crew

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to chat about it. Lucy and
Tam are not here. They're at packs.

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Jake has also at packs. If
we' wondering where the usual crew is,

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so they're they're off gone. I'm
sure, Well they'll be back next

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week and they'll give their thoughts.
But I'm actually pretty pretty happy with the

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crew. We have to talk about
it because obviously we have Michael who you

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reviewed the game, Yeah, I
did. You could probably check out that

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score, uh and you should check
out the whole review. Just look at

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the score. Look, scores make
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exactly it's too real? Want to
address Poka cramme and the chat real quick?

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They ask spoiler free? I assume
we're not having any just spoilers.

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Yeah. No, it's also kind
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we'll talk about like our personal experiences, but you can kind of talk about

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it in a way where it's it's
yeah, we can try to stay away

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from like super specific. Yeah,
we're not gonna try and detail like story

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specifics. Those alien yeeks are clapped
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Yeah. Wow, Mod's already came
out. I guess Wow, great

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net that is going to be a
mom thing, isn't oh guaranteed? Okay,

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it's for another time. Yeah,
we'll see that, like where's my

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clean alien faces Mod. We're also
joined by Aaron, who I wanted to

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have you on because you've probably had
the most like buggy experience with Starfield.

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Yeah. I think it's just like
an interesting person. So for context,

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like every like we got like like
ten codes for the office, Like a

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ton of people have been playing it, so we've had a really wide range

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of I would say, like opinions
and viewpoints on the game. Michael,

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I think you and may are kind
of maybe on the same page. Aaron,

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I think you're even like lower,
to be fair, like how we

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felt about it, to be fair, like for some reason, when I

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play games, they like to break. Yeah, I like to break games.

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So I don't know how much of
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want to start? Do you want
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into bugs. It's it's it's interesting
because I think most people's experience has been

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like relatively bug free, especially compared
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inoffensive bug games. Yeah, exactly, Like my ship didn't break, thankfully,

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but I saw some I saw some
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A lot of people go in bold
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minutes. It's crazy, but largely
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kind of like lay it out there, it's like maybe I think, I

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think, at least for me,
this is the most polished but as a

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game that I've played, and that's
that might not be saying much, but

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at least, you know, I
was able to like reload saves or reboot

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the game. It was straight.
I probably had like maybe three crashes.

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I played on all systems and played
fifty five hours. And like, yeah,

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I'll take that. I'll take that
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technical perspective, that's aw right there. I'm gonna blame it on my mom

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in the game. My mom in
the game game. So I was talking

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to my dad in the game.
You can have a dad in a mom

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in the game. It's the thing
that's crazy. Yeah, And so I'm

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talking to my dad, He's like, I do a nice to have you

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home, and I turned to my
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of eyeballs with a bean for a
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think that was the brain. So
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scrunch We're trying to figure it out. It was just this a floating little

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thing like above her eyeballs. So
we were like, what is that?

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Welcome? Who's that? Was?
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just it was weird on Xbox and
then that bug kind of went out.

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You I think you saw this one. We're like, you went out and

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that carried out to the world for
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so yeah, we hit the floating
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at one. Yeah, that should
sick. I like those kinds of bugs,

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especially the fun they're like, yeah, like, oh the build's character.

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You know. We had just Eve
Space. We had one on the

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stream and we live streamed earlier on
the game spot YouTube channel. You can

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go watch the VOD of that over
at YouTube belt com Forward slash game Spot.

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We had one. Obviously, this
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essentially the launch build of the game, and I was playing in first person

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and someone in chat was like,
and we see it in third person.

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I was like sure, So I
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and my head had caved in.
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reverse like it was like I've been
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body because there seemed to be like
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and then my arms were kind of
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For audio listeners, that kind of
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fine to play, but I couldn't
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would fix it would be going back
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guess like everything like went back as
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stuff for people playing. I'm sure. I'm sure this isn't the last we've

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seen of the bugs. I don't
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it during the review period. Yeah. Yeah, It's definitely one of those

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things where mileage is going to vary. So you know the fact that I

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had a fairly like really smooth technical
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A bunch of other people out there
probably or not either, And some people

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will be like, yo, you
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you know what I'm saying. So
it's just it's just a look of the

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cards. I guess, like you
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with the reload. Yeah, and
that's like I'll take that again. Yeah,

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it's fine. Yeah, absolutely,
Why don't we want it back a

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little bit? Uh? And for
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check out your review, Michael,
oh sure, why don't you give kind

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of a summary of your thoughts on
Starfield as a whole. Uh, Starfield

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is high highs or well, let
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and some lows with it, and
overall I landed on a seven. It

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was it was kind of like wrestled
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But there was a lot. There
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fun with, and I think some
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Aza games. You look for the
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might stumble upon along the way,
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like the I think that a lot
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the Crimson Fleet side quest, and
I know, Tom you're doing a lot

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of content around that and I think
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one of the most interesting pieces of
content Starfield. And I think it's one

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of the best quest lines that Bethsa's
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think that quest line is emblematic of
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firefights and shooting and you know,
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not gonna be on the Destiny two
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play, but I think the it's
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shooting mechanics of the game, and
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a ton of fun weapons to tinker
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different guns with a bunch of different
attachments and different stat boosts. In a

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way, it's almost like, well
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and they fire in differ ways all
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tinker with them at the work bench
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anyway, I really enjoyed the shooting
mechanics of this game, and that's not

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something I necessarily expected going into It's
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know, they'll they'll make a make
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I actually think that is the highlight
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RPG elements, because the more and
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the more I realized that, you
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kind of on a track, and
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with the different responses that you can
do. But I think overall, I

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felt that the end results for most
of these quests all led to the same

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conclusion. May there's variations on you
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one character or the other, and
you'll keep it moving. You're gonna move

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on with your life across the galaxy. So the more and more I start

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to poke at what how reactive the
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the less and less I saw in
terms of how dynamic it's RPG systems

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can be. And that's like kind
of disappointing when I look at other because

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the RPGs that I've played I mentioned
that, you know, more Away in

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Oblivion and Skyrim are some of my
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which is by Obsidian, are kind
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style of RP and overall, when
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a game that was built for quantity
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find a lot of quests, you'll
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in, and you'll fall down a
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some really cool stuff along the way. But overall, as a cohesive whole,

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when I look at the main quest
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the rest of that world and how
it kind of funnels you through the rest

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of Starfield's galactic adventure, there's a
lot it's it's pretty weak in that regard,

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and I think, you know,
I wouldn't mind so much if you

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know other Bethza RPGs, where it's
like, hey, we're just going to

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give you a main story to be
a thing to introduce you to the rest

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of the world and so you can
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the way. Where Starfield tries to
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thoughtful story that kind of say extols
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place in space, but I think
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in a way where characters don't necessarily
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you know, I made this great
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completely changes the way we view humanity, whatever, and just like, hey,

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that's crazy, all right, Now
get to the next quest and collect

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this next artifact. So there's a
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of the world. And of course, you know space sci fi three hundred

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years in the future, there's gonna
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to make that logical leap to build
out that sci fi world. That's fine,

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all the bunch of other games do
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What I'm getting at is like it
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into building its world in a believable
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falls flat. And I think that
because it's it's not a great vehicle for

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the rest of the story. It
feels like I'm getting involved in a lot

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of a bunch of disjointed quests and
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I took a step back, I'm
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lot of those side quests I love. I really enjoyed you know, shooting

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my way through those big firefights and
blasting fools with my with all these weapons

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that I built up, and zipping
around with my jet pack. Oh,

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the jet pack is so sick in
this game. But then I'm like,

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what form, Like, what what
is it that I'm like working for?

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What is it that I'm building in
this game? And it's like more or

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less a checklist style of RPGs.
How I came away with it? Yeah,

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and that's fine, that's like,
yo, that there's a lot of

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fun to be had in those kinds
of games. But that is what Starfield

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is to me. So but yeah, that's a long winded way to summarize

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my thoughts. There's a bunch of
other things, a lot that I get

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I get involved in with my review, but yeah, it's probably really important

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to talk about, like like a
lot of the reason why you go down

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that path and that game is because
it doesn't like this change started I think

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around fall Out four where like John
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fall Out for we both tried to
play it like fall Out three where we

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just you know, wandered off into
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you saw and then like you know, twenty hours later wondered what was wrong

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with me? Or like what am
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Why am I not having a fun
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anything, and that that formula repeats
here where it's like, no, you

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really do have to do the first
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even if it doesn't the game doesn't
really like well New Vegas, right,

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you were talking about the map design
in New Vegas. Yeah, when we

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were just sitting down, how there's
a mountain that like forces you to do

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the first thing and then the world
opens up. This one does the fall

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Out fourth thing where just opens up
the world real quick, but no,

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you really do need to do the
main quest to like get that anchor and

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understanding of Yeah, it's like it's
like the game's sense of scale kind of

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works against it where it wants you
to go in any direction and it's impressive

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and you're like whoa, but like
without it, it's really hard to like

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find something interesting, like you know, like the game has interesting stuff,

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but then you're just like, oh, I'm just gonna go in this random

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direction and liked my first couple hours
were like I think this game has like

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a bad introduction. I think the
the intro, like the intro intro is

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like maybe the weakest of all the
Bethesta games. It lacks like that,

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Like every Bethesta game has that,
Like you know, they'll have the tutorial

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and then you like leave the tutorial
and it has that like ooh moment where

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you're like, you know, and
oh, I can't I've rubbing my hands

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like bird Man is shit. It's
like, oh, I can't wait to

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go there. I'm gonna check yeah
out. I know the main question is

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there, but I'll get to it
because I want to see what's there.

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And this game doesn't have that,
which is kind of weird because like it

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tries to because at the beginning of
the game, you're in a mine and

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then you like leave the mind and
there's a moment where like the door opens

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up and it like plays has a
musical sting that's supposed to be like I

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just like leaving the vault for the
first time, but then you're just like,

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yep, I'm now outside the mine. Yeah, Okay. It's really

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weird, and it's because this game
is not one giant map. It's a

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bunch of smaller maps. Connected together, and I think that is for me.

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they just find it that way because

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like it because it probably couldn't.
It feels like a technical limitation as well.

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It's just like an understandable like you
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lot of this game fast traveling.
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because otherwise it would be like really
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But because you can't just manually go
everywhere, it like lacks that like that

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sense of discoveries. Yeah, that
sense of discovery that I think make that

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that's the game so much fun where
it's like you know, oh you see

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that mountain, you can go to
that and it's like supermutants are there.

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You know, they have a whole
society. There's almost I'm getting quests and

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dialogue trees that are like leading me
down a certain path that I want to

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keep digging into. Yeah, have
that it. Yeah, it kind of

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lacks that in a weird way.
It's bizarre. And then because it's just

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so open ended and you can technically
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I said, you you kind of
it's easy to like not find the fun

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stuff. Like my opening hours,
I was like, Okay, I'll do

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some quests and like the first person
I met was like, hey, you

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want to go get me a cup
of coffee? Like literally like go get

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me a cup of and I was
like, sure, this has got to

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lead to something good. And this
is like in the opening, uh,

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you know, the main hub,
the new Atlantis, a big city and

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like where the game kind of makes
you go at the very very beginning.

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And I was like all right,
like sure, what'll this lead to?

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And then like I went and got
him a cup of coffee. I came

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back and they said piece that was
the quest and I was like, oh,

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okay, and like it was you
know I just like I was like,

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man, like where's the It feels
like it didn't it needed to like

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put more of its like best foot
forward and really like shove all the good

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stuff in front of you or like
like like the pathing to get you to

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that stuff feels exist. Yeah,
that's the That's the frustrating thing is that

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it because there is really good stuff
there. There is there is absolutely good

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stuff there. And one of the
best things I don't think there's too much

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of a spoiler one of the best
things you can do is just like get

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arrested in the game. So like
that's all you baby, Yeah, all

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right, I'm just gonna say,
get arrested in the game. It's a

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really cool question line. And I
think we're both trying to sort of break

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the game a little bit to see
what you get away, right yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, and you would
maybe like doing a little bit of crime

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and that's a treat. Yeah yeah. And that's when the most interesting thing

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happened in the first like a couple
of days I played the game. Oh

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yeah, it's because the game led
you. There's what you're talking about.

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The game led you there, right, Yeah, you did something and had

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a consequence and then it kicked off
like something pretty significant in the game.

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But I how would you know to
have done that? Yeah, Like you

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just would have missed it if you've
been if you've been playing the game.

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And in theory, I don't mind
like cool emergent moments like that, like

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those can feel special when they happen. The problem is that you just like

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you don't know if it's going to
be a cool emergent moment or if it's

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gonna like be pretty lame and uninteresting. Yeah, yeah, like you know,

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they're this is continuing that tradition that
Pathesta kind of started with a sky

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rim, where it's like you have
the sort of infinite small quests that are

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just like oh god, yeah,
you know, fetch quests or go do

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this, so many of them and
there's so many of them, and it's

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like they're doing it to kind of
like fill out the world, and but

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you're just like, man, like, where's the I just want to do

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like a fun one for once,
you know, and it could be hard

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to to like differentiate the between them, like you just don't know. No,

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he doesn't say like this system is
interesting. You just get a random

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name, yeah, and then you
jump in. Just sometimes something really cool

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happen. Sometimes something cool happens,
yeah and so and then sometimes you're just

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like, yep, I scan some
rocks that was cool, yeah totally,

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or got a flip bunch of switches
for somebody, but I mean sick,

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I got a couple of credits and
kept a pushing. So so your mileage

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is going to vary when as you
start to try to see what's out there.

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But I mean some of the more
interesting things are marked, like the

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factions. You'll know what a faction
quest line is because it'll mark it in

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your quest log and be like,
oh, this is the Freestar Collectives.

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Yes, icon, this is the
Crimson Fleets. Yeah, I think there's

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a faction tab. Yeah, there's
a faction tab for Yeah, those are

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always worth checking out. And then
but otherwise it's a it's kind of a

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hit, hit or miss. Yeah. As you kind of go through all

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the other things that are just like
happing around, you'll stumble across across conversations

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and then the thing will pop up
and say, hey, go talk to

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this person or go here because someone
had mentioned it. And more often than

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not, those are not interesting,
I would say, But there's yeah,

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there's there's just all the high volume
of things to check out in this game.

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So you know, I reviewed the
game, but I have not seen

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everything, right, I don't think
there is a reviewer at there who has

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technically seen everything. So yeah,
and I think in that regard there will

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be some variation in terms of the
impression that people get in there. I

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don't know their play through honestly,
So yeah, Tom, Tom who's here

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trying to play the whole thing is
a pirate like, you role played a

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pirate? How did that? How
did that play out? How's that going?

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Oh no, sorry you muted.
I muted myself because some noise and

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that was like ten minutes ago.
Uh yeah, no, I play I

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played as a pirate. We've got
a cool video series coming up on YouTube

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showing off some of the coolest missions, you know that it's it's kind of

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like and I think we're also doing
a video that's like how to have fun

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in the game, which is not
as bad as it sounds, but like

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just directing people my series. I
think, honestly, like I really wonder

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with this game if there's going to
be stuff like a year later that is

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like a really hidden quest in a
far off system that's gonna be amazing,

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like even topping the Crimson Fleet stuff, which you know we've mentioned. But

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I think for all of the initial
cool moments that you can have in the

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game, I have found a lot
of them, and I've just been very

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lucky to have kind of oh that
there's a derelict ship in space, Like

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did either any of you experience the
armored transport where the gravity is turning on

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and off? Oh no, oh
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,

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it's a ship. It's like a
it's a ship in the New atlant

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the Alpha Centauri system, which is
where New Atlantis says. It's like one

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of the it says Damos armored transplant. It clicks on that and you go

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into the ship and it's being attacked
by pirates. And this was before I

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like teamed up with the Crimson Fleet, and so you're fighting them in regular

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gravity, but a solar flare had
hit the ship, so it's it's systems

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keep going on and offline. So
you're in the middle of like a fight

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on the ground and then all of
a sudden, the gravity turns off and

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you're all floating in mid am.
All the objects and all of the coffee

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cups and all of that is also
floating, and it'll last for like thirty

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seconds and then everything crashes to the
ground again. And it keeps doing that.

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And to get through the ship and
to find all of the hidden bits

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of loot, you have to use
this you're a gravity to get to places

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that you otherwise couldn't And it's this
awesome like thing that you just like,

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Unless you just say I'm gonna go
to that ship, you're you're gonna miss

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I would say that the I would
say that A big the elephant in the

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room where in gaming right now in
comparison to Staffield, is Boulder's Gate.

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And I played so much of Boulder's
Gate and coming you know, this is

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this series I'm talking about that I'm
putting together. It's something that I've actually,

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like, I've spoken with Aaron about
it for a long time, Like

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I was like, I'm really going
to get in and like role play,

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and there is a lot of that, but especially compared to Bold's Gate,

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it is very rigid in what it
allows you to do. For an example,

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there were two factions in the beginning
of the game that I ran into

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and I kind of was playing the
mediator between the two, like negotiating terms

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and things like this, and to
one of the leaders of the faction,

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they I kind of decided, all
right, I'm not going to team up.

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I'm done with them, Like I'm
not going to team up with them,

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but I'll tell them that I'm gonna
go like screw over the other people

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just so like like so they trust
me and like then we can turn it

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around, right, Something that boulders
Gate three would let you do all the

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time, and I go to the
other faction and I want to there to

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be an option that's like we're gonna
go take over their thing, like you

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know, but I had been locked
into the choice I made with the other

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person, and I couldn't deviate from
what I had told the other faction I

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do. And I was like,
that seems like that seems like a pretty

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basic thing to allow you to do
another one being I wanted to. There

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was an area and someone wanted to
like undermine the big boss of the area

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by doing some sneaky shit behind their
back, and I was like, I'm

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gonna go rat you out. I'm
gonna go like currfe with the boss and

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tell them that you're like running this
business under their nose. And when I

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went to go find that person,
I didn't have any dialogue options available to

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me to do that. And like, especially coming fresh off of Boulder's Gate,

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like those opportunities are created all the
time. So for me, I've

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had a lot of fun with Staffield. I think I've been very lucky to

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primarily like I haven't touched any of
the main quest stuff where it feels sounds

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like it's very iffy on quality with
like the storytelling and stuff, so I've

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only really experienced the good stuff.
But still, like I I find myself

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so disappointed with how big this game
is but how narrow it's kind of focus

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is, and in like this is
still this is a Beeta. This is

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not the future of Bethesda. This
feels like the last gasp of their like

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og game design, going back to
fall Out three and like the Oblivion Oblivion

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and Morrow Winds and stuff. It
feels like that formula pushed to the absolute

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limits rather than it being like a
revolutionary step that they're taking forward. And

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I'm just really, I mean,
I know this is far in the future,

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but like older Scrolls, six cannot
just be this again, you know,

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like it they really are going to
need to shake it up because if

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there is so much about this game
that feels very stale in twenty twenty three,

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when we have so many RPGs that
really do feel like they're pushing the

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medium forward, like Boulder's Gate for
example. So yeah, I'm I'm high

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on it. I'm enjoying it.
I'm definitely going to play more because I

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am really curious if there's like missions
that are really like hidden in the far

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off planets and like, once you
get to certain levels, how that is.

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But I totally agree with anyone that
has any a little bit more of

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a not as high of an opinion, and I agree. Reading Michael's review,

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I'm like, yep, I feel
that, I feel I feel that.

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So yeah, I think I think
you're like your your evaluation of the

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limitations of the RPG system is spot
on, and I in a way it's

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like, hey, I couldn't have
said it better myself. I spent three

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thousand words explaining my opinion on that
game, But you really hit the nail

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on the head where this game has
you on a set track. You make

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a decision like early on, and
that's what it's going to roll with.

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Your dialogue options are Yes, I
agree, I agree, but I'm going

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to be mean to you and I'm
just going to be a straight asshole.

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But I'm gonna do what you asked
me to do anyway, or I'm leaving

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this conversation and I'll come back to
it later. So and like, yeah,

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I'm not out here comparing it to
Balder's Gate, But at the same

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time, RPGs have moved on since
fall Out four to be or yeah,

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fall Out four, to be honest, which was a twenty fifteen game,

406
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and Starfield does feel like an extension
as you said, it is like that

407
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.920
Fallout four design philosophy pushed to be
even bigger and wider, but not any

408
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.319
more deeper than it was back then. And so since then, you know,

409
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.319
we've had games like which or three, We've had a bunch of like

410
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:10.000
a resurgence of Japanese RPGs, and
like, you know, let's say,

411
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.559
in Final Fantasy fourteen, you know
what I'm saying, very different game,

412
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.279
but it's kind of like, Hey, we're an MMRPG, but we are

413
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:19.000
at we are thinking outside the box
and we are carving our own place in

414
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:23.319
the history of RPGs with this thing
that we're doing, whereas Starfield doesn't like

415
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:29.079
necessarily commit to a philosophy to help
it stand out. Rather just like,

416
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.640
hey, there's got fucking hundreds of
planets, bro take your pick, hopefully

417
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.599
running something I don't know, maybe
it's another mining facility or a robot facility,

418
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:42.039
who knows. So yeah, there's
the limitations of this style of RPG

419
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:47.240
come through very fast and are prevalent
throughout the experience. And that's not to

420
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.720
say that there aren't interesting things to
find along the way. As we have

421
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:55.039
mentioned, there's some really dope side
quests, but I'm not I'm not going

422
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.799
in role playing necessarily, I Am
no. Yeah, I'm like doing this

423
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.599
quest and hoping that I got a
cool firefight or I got a cool little

424
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:07.279
story that comes out of it.
And so yeah, there's there's and we'll

425
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.680
talk about like how you mentioned how
disjointed it feels to actually explore this place,

426
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.039
but also it feels like the actual
questing I'm doing is also disjointed.

427
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:21.240
Yeah, and that there's not feeding
into a sense of purpose or an understanding

428
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:26.359
of the galaxy that Starfield has kind
of envisioned for us. Well, yeah,

429
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.039
and I think that's kind of where
because for me, I think I'm

430
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.640
more like when when the writing fell
in the RPG, like elements felt a

431
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.640
little weak in terms of how you
can role play situations, I was kind

432
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.680
of expecting that because to me,
I'm like, butthesta's kind of always been

433
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.119
like that, you know, Like, I think writing has never been their

434
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:52.240
strong suit, but the strengths have
been like the map design and the world

435
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.359
building and like that sense of exploration, and I think a lot of people

436
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.119
like that about it, and I
think, like people will enjoy that element

437
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.799
of this, but I do still
think because it's so disjointed, it feels

438
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.960
weaker than any other bethetistic game.
Like you're taking one of the core aspects

439
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:14.519
of this style of RPG and you're
just taking taking it away and replacing it

440
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.680
with something that doesn't necessarily make up
for it in any way. I mean

441
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.880
that's like damn, Like I really
can't express like how much time you're spent

442
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:30.119
like in a menuns game, just
and badly designed menus like people do.

443
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:36.480
I don't. I don't know anyone
who genuinely like has enjoyed like inventory management

444
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:41.359
in a beathetistic game. I think
everyone like tolerates it, yeah, and

445
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.920
uh like, but it's so bad
in this one, Like it's just so

446
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:51.480
clumsy and and I feel like I
am constantly like running up against like I'm

447
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.519
at inventory space, give it that
stuff to my companion or put it in

448
00:29:55.559 --> 00:30:00.440
my like you know, uh,
my ship partment. My favorite thing with

449
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.680
inventory space is you have so many
places to put stuff and they'll just progressively

450
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.640
get filled, so you're like,
oh, my body is full, I

451
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.279
have to go put stuff on my
ship. Oh no, my ship is

452
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.720
full. I'll give it to my
there full. I'll go to my outposts.

453
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:21.319
My outpost is full, like you
know, I got home. Absolutely.

454
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.880
Yeah, you're just dumping stuff like
constantly. It's just crazy. Well,

455
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:26.880
so, like, the reason you're
picking up all this stuff, though,

456
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.759
is because a lot of the systems
in the game are require you to

457
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.160
use those resources, and they all
require different resources, like even even weapon

458
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.799
modding, like I kind of wanted
to just be able to rip mods off

459
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.039
weapons and build. No, it's
the Fallout four system of like you're picking

460
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.839
up junk to like, you know, uh, turn that junk into other

461
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.359
stuff like and I hated that about
Fallout four to be honest, like having

462
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.440
to find like screws and duct tape
to constantly be modding stuff Like I didn't

463
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.039
find that aspect of the game fund
it's pretty much lifted from that game wholesale,

464
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.000
and to hear, like the menus
for like the modding look almost like

465
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.640
the exact same, yeah, like
some color changes and stuff. And so

466
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.240
for me, I'm like, oh, yeah, I didn't really like doing

467
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:07.319
this and fall fourth, So if
you liked that stuff and Fault four,

468
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.240
you're gonna have a great time.
Oh I don't know about that, because

469
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.640
like there's so many more materials that
you do have to look for in this

470
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.480
game if you want to engage with
that stuff. And I spent a good

471
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.359
amount of time like doing the outposts, and because I do like that animal

472
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.680
crossing style aspect of like building out
up a place from scratch, like I

473
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.839
love. I was like, oh
wow, the view on this planet is

474
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.559
kind of nice and it's habitable,
So I'm going to build an outpost here.

475
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.400
And that's kind of how I started
to for a review, when I

476
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.480
was like, Okay, I'm going
to dig into these systems so I know

477
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.240
what's there, and I liked it. I'm like, oh cool, y,

478
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:41.640
I'm gonna build this research. So
I'm build this room, put a

479
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.319
couch here, chilling, bring my
coot crewmates, oh wow. Like little

480
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.640
by little, it starts to feel
like, oh, I'm building my own

481
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.640
city and that's cool. And I
think there's gonna be some like over time

482
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.559
people are gonna like stretch the limitations
of that and do some really cool shit.

483
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.200
But to do it is a lot
of fucking work, and it's it's

484
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.119
going to be a lot of mining, which is not fun, and there

485
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.279
there are ways to efficiently mine eventually, like with your outpost and with your

486
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:13.200
crewmates, but you've got to figure
those systems out. But also managing those

487
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:19.200
resources is a nightmare because they've like
the menus in the inventory management. This

488
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.599
game has never evolved in the over
the past couple of games, so you're

489
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:27.160
still dealing with old systems to try
new things. And there's a disconnect between

490
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.200
the UX, like the user experience, Like you built out this pretty cool

491
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.640
system and I want to see I
want to. I want to I want

492
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.799
to see it through, but you're
not letting me engage with that in a

493
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.440
way that is enjoyable. And I
think that's unfortunate that a lot of those

494
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:46.319
old design decisions still kind of haunt
Starfield in a way. There's one shining

495
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.759
light, I think in those systems, which is building spaceships. Oh yeah,

496
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.720
I went down a rabbit hole building
spaceships. So building spaceships is the

497
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.920
one thing in the game that is
just straight credits, like, you don't

498
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.400
you don't need to mind to build
your space ship. And the UI is

499
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.400
a little hard to get used to
it first, but once you sort of

500
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.599
understand how it works, Like mass
selecting and swapping out ship parts becomes actually

501
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.640
very quick and easy. And like
I built like something that was like a

502
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:27.079
budget millennium Falcon, but it yeah, yeah, because the shipbuilding was actually

503
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.359
I really did enjoy its pretty cool
ship. Yeah, And most of the

504
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.960
stuff in the game is you can
have it on your ship. So if

505
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.960
you don't, if you nope straight
out of like out post building and stuff

506
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.079
and you don't want to engage with, yeah, you can have all that

507
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:44.799
stuff auditing, like it can all
be it can all be on your ship,

508
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.599
so you can actually opt out of
it. It's like you probably don't

509
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.960
get to do certain things in the
game if you opt out. But ship

510
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.000
shipbuilding, I think was a highlight. Yeah, that's a fantasy that I

511
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.640
feel like a game has never quite
managed to capture before until this one.

512
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.200
And like it's cool that like you
can have a crew on your ship.

513
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.880
And I don't really like do all
that much, to be fair, but

514
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.720
it is kind of cool to like
have a bunch of people on your ship

515
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.519
walking around and you're like feel like, oh, like I'm putting together like

516
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.639
a my own rag tag team.
And but you know, in reality.

517
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.400
They're just like they're chilling. They're
just chilling, Hey, what's up?

518
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.320
And you're like, I got a
sandwich for you. You that those motherfucker's

519
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.360
love giving you something to tell you. I think I don't know if it's

520
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.760
a I don't know if it's a
racial thing. But they keep giving me

521
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:32.320
rice dishes. I'm like, I
think this game did a racial profile on

522
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.159
me. But also I'm not getting
bangers and mash Like, yeah, I

523
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.199
guess something called an alien sandwich.
I'm like, what does that mean?

524
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.280
Yeah, it's like what is what? What is? It? Did?

525
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.960
Like kill a bug on a planet? Turned that shi into a burger or

526
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.679
something. The best part of that, though, was like when they get

527
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.159
mad at you, like, oh
you did some murders. I don't like

528
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.719
you anymore. You back out and
then you engage in their conversations are like

529
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:01.159
half a sandwich. Yeah that's uh
yeah, And that kind of goes back

530
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.119
to one thing we mentioned. It's
like the way NPCs react the wild shit

531
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.039
that you do is just bizarre.
Yeah, Sam, it's very like simulation,

532
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.199
E like just breaking down like I'm
not gonna lie. There's probably a

533
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.119
theme here, but in order to
like level the ship, I might have

534
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.599
done some murders because the game didn't
give me other choice. Gotta do what

535
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.960
you gotta do. And so Sam, who's like a ranger, got super

536
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.079
mad about it. But then a
couple of missions later, we're trying to

537
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.440
stealth and I just swear to got
it with Sam. Sam was a guy

538
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.800
that that broke the stealth and then
he just starts straight executing like level one

539
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:44.480
corporate dude, savage bro, Like, what the hell? Sam? Yeah?

540
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.960
Yeah, this is like because of
the way this you see, how

541
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.679
you say, you see right through
how the systems work, it does break

542
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:57.079
that idea of like a consistency across
how NPCs and other characters react to you

543
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.519
and react to the world. And
just like all right, I've seen like

544
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.000
I get it, I get it. It's fine. But also this is

545
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.840
just like really bizarre for a game
that also tries to be kind of clean

546
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.840
cut in a way. Yeah,
you know, like when you go through

547
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:14.119
the main story and in some of
these quests where it's just like this virtuous

548
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.199
vibe of like we're doing something great
in the galaxy. Also we're just fucking

549
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.880
murdering what the fuck is? Because
that's what you gotta do. They even

550
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.760
have an express line when you first
arrive at the Lodge, which is where

551
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:31.199
Constellation is based, where the leader
of the Constellation, Sarah says basically she

552
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.920
goes, oh, by the way, like you can do fucking anything,

553
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.159
like we don't give a shit.
Oh yeah, like as long as it

554
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.239
doesn't like fuck with us finding these
artifacts, like we are totally down with

555
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:47.639
you doing whatever. And yeah,
the game isn't it's like just again,

556
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.039
it's it's it's it's that thing that
I bring up with bulls Gate three.

557
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:57.079
That game is always the world and
the characters are always reacting to everything that

558
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.400
happens, no matter how minute it
is, and it allows you to open

559
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.480
up paths. You know, I'm
sure when you when when you know Sam

560
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:12.480
with you, Aaron was very disgruntled
that you'd been doing these murders. It

561
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.559
brought up a thing in the corner
that said Sam is upset. But did

562
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:22.480
he did he did his behavior change
towards you? Probably not. Did the

563
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.320
conversations you have changed with him?
No? Like that that that example I

564
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:32.639
gave earlier of where I lie.
You know, I lied to this one

565
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.039
faction in you know, I at
least was planning to lie to one faction

566
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.920
in order to help the other and
like use it against against them. The

567
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.119
companion I was with at the time, like it said, Sarah is upset,

568
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.920
and she had a little comment like
I didn't like that or whatever,

569
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.440
but I you know, again,
I was trying to do a playthrough.

570
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:53.400
I'm really role playing, So I
was like, no, I want I

571
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:58.880
don't want her to think like I'm
siding with these corporate pieces of shit.

572
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:04.079
I'm side with refugees. So I
went up to her to thinking that that

573
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:08.440
would open up a branch of dialogue
where we could discuss her feelings on the

574
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:14.599
matter. And I brought it up
and it was the same dialogue options as

575
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.360
I had had the whole game,
and I there was no threat there with

576
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.639
this moment that apparently she was upset
with. So I'm thinking, like,

577
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:28.400
what does this system even matter?
You know, And yeah, it's it's

578
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:34.079
it's unfortunate that it's like that Persuasion
is a skill tree you have to unlock,

579
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.480
so like you could miss that.
But even then it's you know,

580
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.920
they're like, oh, I'm super
mad at you for murders. You're like

581
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.719
persuasion past, They're like I'm not
mad at you anymore for murders. Persuasion

582
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:52.119
stuff, to me is the weakest
writing in the game because it's it's a

583
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:58.920
mix of like generic persuasive sentences like
you want to help me, don't you,

584
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.239
and like things that are specific to
the person you're talking to, but

585
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.719
the person you're talking to will be
like, I'm never going to tell you

586
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.119
where the money is, and then
you'll be like come on, and then

587
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:19.719
they'll be like making a great point. That is where you know it's it's

588
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.639
something where it's it's I'm sure it's
difficult to balance, right, you You

589
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.800
want to have these systems where you
someone is steadfast in their opinion, and

590
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.719
the amount of dialogue in the game, like it's got to be tough to

591
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:38.880
make that feel natural, but it
is so far from feeling natural that it's

592
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:45.639
like just scrap this system, like
it's it's it's so it's ludicrously bad in

593
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:51.360
places. Yeah, it's like yeah, and even with like the audio auto

594
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.000
persuade, like if you make it
far enough in that skill tree, yeah,

595
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.719
you just start saying shit like click
click click, click, all right

596
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.480
past past it, and there's like
yeah, yeah, the the funniest shit

597
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.920
is like one of the main quests
where you have to like engage with the

598
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.800
space pirates and they they're holding onto
this artifact and because you're supposed to collect

599
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.000
them, and they're just like,
oh, I'm never gonna sell this.

600
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:13.239
There is nothing money cannot buy this
thing. This thing I am. I

601
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.199
am defending this with my life.
You like, I'm cool with you,

602
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.800
but if you try and touch it, I'm gonna blast you away. And

603
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:23.119
then you're like, yeah, but
I really need it, Like huh damn.

604
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.480
I never thought of it like that. And it's like, hey,

605
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:31.280
actually, you know what, it's
all yours fun Come on, man,

606
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:44.800
yeah, it's but you know,
it is what it is. Tommy,

607
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:50.079
you're talking a lot about Balder's Gate
three, and that's like it's a it's

608
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.840
a strong comparison. I would even
trace that back to again, like following

609
00:40:52.880 --> 00:41:00.159
New Vegas. Again it's Obsidian,
but Obsidian found a way to extract the

610
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.719
most from that framework, and that
games thirteen years old at this point,

611
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.800
so in a way I would had
even with Fallout four, I had like

612
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:09.239
hope it's like, oh, I
hope they took away some of the lessons

613
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:15.239
from New Vegas because that game was
very, very strong and many regards that's

614
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.119
not what Fallout four was. I'm
like, okay, cool, they're just

615
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.840
building a different game. This is
just a direct line from follow three.

616
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.599
It's mine. But with Starfield that
has that is you know, it's been

617
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.760
so long since then, and I
feel like, uh, you know,

618
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.119
there are lessons that can be learned
that can be integrated into this. And

619
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.440
when I when your time, you're
talking about like, I'm gonna say this

620
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.280
to this person, so I can
just kind of skate by but actually do

621
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.239
the thing that I intend on doing. New Vegas. Lets you do that

622
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:50.960
so often, and it's it's the
the way in which they've manipulated the in

623
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.320
game systems in such a such a
wild way where you can role play,

624
00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:00.079
you can be a conniving person in
that game and get away with some real

625
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.360
wild shit. And so yeah,
when when you when I think about that

626
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.079
experience, when I think about that
game and then go to Starfield that is

627
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.119
more concerned with kind of impressing you
with the fidelity and the scale and all

628
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.920
the all the planets, it's kind
of like they left the most important part

629
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:22.679
on by the wayside, and maybe
maybe that's just like to make the game

630
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.559
a little bit more digestible for a
broader audience who might not be necessarily poking

631
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.760
at the game in that same way. But as as rpg SICKO, who's

632
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.559
played almost like pretty much every one
of these bes RPGs, it's like,

633
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.320
in a way, it's it feels
like regression to where I'm not necessarily and

634
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.119
part of me is wowed by the
fact that I can go to these planets.

635
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.079
I love that shit. I'm like, in a way, I'm like

636
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.719
a very much like a aerospace nerd
in that way. And I mentioned that

637
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.480
in my review, and I love
that shit. But I think that the

638
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.599
as big as the universe is,
it kind of doesn't necessarily matter how big

639
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.840
it is if it doesn't have the
heart that is going to connect me to

640
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.320
that universe right in a way,
And like, even though New Vegas is

641
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.920
such a such a dark place,
like that this bat shit happens all the

642
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.400
time in New Vegas, there's still
that that that human thread that connects me

643
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.519
to that world. Like, Yo, Caesar's Legion is some crazy shit.

644
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:22.079
The NCR is a bunch of fucking
corrupt government officials. Only crap Brotherhood to

645
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.079
Steal is struggling. Also, they
got some wild ideas too. It's like,

646
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:29.599
oh, I'm getting involved in some
really deep shit and I don't feel

647
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.000
like that is I haven't. I
haven't come across anything like that in the

648
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:37.559
fifty five hours that I played Starfield, and that leaves me hungry, Like

649
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.039
I'm still hungry after playing something like
damn, yeah shit, I'm still looking

650
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.639
for that. You guys feel about
it. But I also feel like maybe

651
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:49.840
their version of space lacks like a
identity to me. That kind of made

652
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:55.039
me feel like, I don't know, like there are it's harder to explain,

653
00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.159
but like I'm thinking about like their
version of like this is what space

654
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.480
is like, and this is like
the and to me, it's just a

655
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:09.440
collection of like different tropes. But
none of it felt like there's something that

656
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.000
I can say, like, oh, yeah, that's a star Field specific

657
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.440
thing, and what I mean by
that is like, so we got like

658
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.679
New Atlantis is like that's the clean
city, like the Citadel. A lot

659
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.679
of the aesthetic is weirdly borrowing from
I feel like like d S X Human

660
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:29.239
Revolution, Like there's like a honeycomb
thing with some of the designs and then

661
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.719
and then there's other planets. So
there's like, uh, there's Neon,

662
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:38.800
which is like cyberpunk drenched, and
then there's like the I forget the is

663
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.599
that the Free Star? Like that's
old the Old West style. That kind

664
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.159
of feels like I would took a
little fall out flavor and or threw it

665
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:49.519
in there. And I'm again like
the idea of like, well, it's

666
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.480
a big galaxy, so obviously there's
gonna be all these different planets and vibes.

667
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:58.159
But I don't know, I just
for me, there wasn't a like

668
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.440
connective like yeah, this is like
a very I don't know, it just

669
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.400
didn't have that like hook. Like
what I like about Elder Scrolls is I

670
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.719
do think it has like its own
distinct like vibe and energy that there's a

671
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.440
lot of culture. Yes you don't. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the

672
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.760
lack of like identifiable culture because in
like a sky Rim, you're like you

673
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.199
have the Nords and like the way
they feel, and you have like the

674
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.239
civil war with the Imperials, and
it's like, oh, I feel bad

675
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.239
for the Nords, but also then
they're like Hella races against the dark Elves

676
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.079
and the dark elves are doing their
own thing, and you have like the

677
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:37.760
ancient you know, dwarf in like
ruins that you're like finding and the dragons,

678
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.400
like there's there's the day drinks,
right, and like there's just all

679
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.039
this like lore and to be fair, like that has been built up over

680
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.039
years and years and years of those
games. But like to me, like

681
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.760
The Eldest Girls has such like a
unique identity to it, and then fall

682
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.679
Out obviously has its own kind of
unique identity. And I'm not really sure

683
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.920
what the identity of this game is
other than like here's a bunch of different

684
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:07.679
space together. Every element is like
the generic version of the thing. So

685
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.239
it's like, yeah, it's like
a Keyla City is Cowboy world and everyone

686
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.280
here is a cowboy. And then
New Atlantis is this Yeah, as you

687
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:22.440
said, it's the clean corporate world
where everyone is in this like very like

688
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.000
plane attire. And then you have
Neon, which is like literally like if

689
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:32.079
you took like bits of cyberpunk and
stuck it in an oil rig. That

690
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.159
that that is the problem is because
it isn't trying. It isn't it can't

691
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.239
focus. The game can't focus on
just making Skyrim, which is like this

692
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:47.360
small sliver of this one continent or
fall out where it is it is this

693
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.360
unique post apocalyptic world. It's just
like this is the future of humans and

694
00:46:52.480 --> 00:47:00.360
space and there's a bunch of different
archetypes and that that's something that does entice

695
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.519
me in moments with the game of
like sure being able to go and experience

696
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.519
something that does feel feel different,
but it is so surface. It is

697
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:21.000
just very generic version of that thing. The Crimson Fleet, as cool as

698
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.920
all of that stuff with them is, and that some of the characters and

699
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:30.159
there are cool, there's nothing that
makes them distinctly like this is these are

700
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:31.920
the pirates of Staffield. It is
just like, no, these are space

701
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.320
pirates. Have you've seen a space
pirate? This is them, you know?

702
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.760
Y oh man, Yeah, that's
such That's such a good way of

703
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:43.400
putting it. Yeah, yeah,
that's That's also like what I was trying

704
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.400
to trying to get out of my
in my review too, is that yeah,

705
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.599
they just it feels like they've just
blended all the sci fi things that

706
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:53.559
we've seen many times and they just
said fuck it. It's just these are

707
00:47:53.719 --> 00:48:00.199
the different planets, are just the
cities that they that are built on them

708
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.400
and that that's it. Like it
feels intentional, almost like they're trying to

709
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:07.159
appeal to everyone by being like,
what do you want? Do you want

710
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.440
Cowboys Space? Well, there's a
whole planet for you. Do you want

711
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.000
Cyberpunk space, here's that planet for
you. Like they're trying to like give

712
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.000
everyone, I guess, like an
option, which I guess is kind of

713
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:21.920
cool, but it does make the
game as a whole. It's like we

714
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.360
keep saying, like everything feels like
disconnected and disjointed. It's not like there's

715
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.480
this cohesive vision. It's more like
you got the one planet and this planet,

716
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.679
and they feel so separate from each
other. I'll tell you what that

717
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.079
results. And you're just flying.
You're like, he's got the best vendors.

718
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:44.320
Sure to the landing. Unfortunately,
this game doesn't have any way to

719
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:50.760
understand where anything is or get into
that part. I feel like this is

720
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.880
maybe actually the most egregious part about
this game. This is the most modeble

721
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:59.360
too, Like I feel like this
get fixed pretty quick. We were talking

722
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:05.480
about how like a good example this
was how I there there's an intro planet

723
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.599
you go to that they make you
go to, and I went to it

724
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:08.360
and you know, did the thing. And I was like, oh,

725
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.800
that's fine. Left and I was
talking with Jake Decker about it, and

726
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.760
he was like, oh, I
stayed on that planet and explored and found

727
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:17.280
some cool stuff. And I was
like, oh cool, I'm gonna go

728
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:22.079
back to that planet. Could not
fucking find that, like holy shit,

729
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.719
Like there's no way to find it, like unless you happen to remember exactly

730
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:31.199
like what system it is you It's
it's like a mess, like I don't

731
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.679
know how you're supposed to like find
keep track of things, how you're supposed

732
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.079
to find because it's so big and
there's no way to like favorite a thing

733
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.159
or like bookmark stuff. It can't
like pull up a list of places you've

734
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:47.440
already visited, unless unless you have
a quest for that location. Then you'll

735
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.360
get the way points to that.
Yeah. But otherwise, like for a

736
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.079
while, when I was done with
the main story stuff on Neon It,

737
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:59.360
I never was never went back until
I found a side quest that led me

738
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.280
back there because I forgot where the
fuck that place was. Yeah, it's

739
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.000
in the system, all right,
I know that put that in the guy.

740
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.199
And even in those big cities like
New Atlantis, is huge for like

741
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.880
a Bethesda city. It's it's like
way bigger than any city they've made.

742
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.239
And that's cool. And I will
like, was like, wow, I

743
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.320
feel like the city goes on forever
and there's so much like places to visit

744
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:27.239
in shops, and that was cool. There's no map. Yeah, you're

745
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.760
telling me three years in the future
on the greatest built in the galaxy.

746
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.360
Y'all. Motherfucker's don't got maps.
I have my iPhone two. I could

747
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.320
pull that ship up and now we
get the map of the entire fucking world.

748
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.920
Oh my god. It's like like
like you when you pull up like

749
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.039
the planet's surface map, it's just
I don't know, it's like a typography

750
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.480
type grid and with just like extremely
unhelpful. It makes super unhelpful. Makes

751
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.039
you think that you have to clear
a fog of war. That's what I

752
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.119
thought. I was like, that's
what I started to go somewhere to clear

753
00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:00.119
to show the area, and then
I that there is no option for that,

754
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.840
and I was like, oh,
this is just what it looks like.

755
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.639
Why why are you going to do
this? I was like, is

756
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.440
there something in the skill tree that
unlocks map reading or something like home and

757
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:14.800
it's like I kind of get that
on like the randomly generated planets, but

758
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:19.079
when it's a city with all these
shops like the like, unless there was

759
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:21.599
a quest telling me exactly where to
go, Like if you were to ask

760
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:22.679
me like, yeah, go go
to this shop because they saw the best

761
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.079
stuff, I'd be like, I'll
never find find that. I will never

762
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.719
find Oh my god. Huge,
And it's it's impressive how big it is.

763
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.039
But like you're I'm like, I'm
not gonna learn this city by like

764
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.199
my memory, like absolutely not.
So it's saying how how big it is

765
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:42.360
becomes a problem though, Yeah,
because you said this, Like I think

766
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.760
you said an email, but you
mentioned cell phones. I'm running with that.

767
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.320
Okay, so many of the things
in this game, the quest could

768
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.519
have been a phone call. It's
like, you're going to play it.

769
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.000
They're like, I got a problem
with this other person. Go talk to

770
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.639
the other person. You're like,
gosh it, okay, fast travel to

771
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.079
my ship loading orbit, go talk
to this person. They're like, nah,

772
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.679
I don't agree with what that person
said. Go back to deliver the

773
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.639
message to them. That two or
three times, and I just gave up

774
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.920
on the question. I'm like get
a cell phone. For god, they

775
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.719
do make a comment. There was
a character who made a comment to me

776
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.440
about like, uh, faster than
like communication hasn't been invented yet, so

777
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.400
and still we do that, Like
couriers will always exist. Grab jump this

778
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:28.239
letter, motherfucker, but grab jump
drive on a telephone pole. Yeah,

779
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.639
I do not care. That was
That was my favorite comment Aaron had when

780
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.800
he's like, can we just call
people and they were like, well,

781
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.519
this hasn't been invented. You're like, just stick a grab drive on the

782
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:45.320
phone. I will build this for
you. In the Spaceship Builder, I

783
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:50.239
will build a telephone spaceship. It
leads a weird video video gaming things that

784
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.360
she's like don't make sense. Like
I ran to a woman on a space

785
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.559
station and she was like, again
everyone just wants me to like get them

786
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.480
a drink for some reason. And
she was like, man, I really

787
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:01.840
miss this one beer at this bar
in New Atlantis. Can you go get

788
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:06.239
me that? And I'm like,
why the fuck would I waste my precious

789
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:12.519
like star fuel that costs like millions
of credits to get you one beer and

790
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:16.480
like come back like special special,
that's special beer. Oh my god.

791
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:21.920
Yeah, it's yeah the way they
try to yeah, go ahead of the

792
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.760
simple stuff like that where it's like
I came across the ship that was like

793
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.840
basically space ups and they're like,
oh, we've got some engine fit.

794
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.199
You know, they hail you,
which is novel. I do like the

795
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:37.119
hailing and there's been some fun like
conversations and moments that have come from that.

796
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.119
What they call you over the intercom. But they call me over They're

797
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:43.159
like, hey, we're space ups, like we got we go to packaging.

798
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.960
It's delivering real quick. And I
was like, all right, what

799
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.239
do you want to do about it? And they're like, could you deliver

800
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:52.000
it to the guy? And I
was like, I'm pretty sure this is

801
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.760
breaking some space space Osha rules,
but okay, I'll do it for you.

802
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.440
And in my head I was like, great, thanks for giving me

803
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:01.960
that. I'm going to go sell
this precious thing. Nope, can't do

804
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:07.199
any I have to now deliver this
thing to this guy. I'm committed to

805
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.800
taking this box of whiskey to this
guy on this random planet. It won't

806
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:13.280
let me sell it, it won't
let me it won't even let me take

807
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.039
it off of my person. I
can't even store it in my ship to

808
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:21.199
make space. It's stuck on my
body because it's a quest item, and

809
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.360
I'm like, how have we not
moved on from this kind of design?

810
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:29.159
Uh? Yeah, it's there's a
lot of stuff. You should be able

811
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:30.400
just sell that stuff. I should
just be able to like him. Yeah

812
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.000
next time, yeah, next time
they see you, Like what happened to

813
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.199
my package? Like, oh fuck, I guess I'm getting in a fight

814
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.559
because I sold their whiskey? Like
that would be a it would be great.

815
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.119
It's like Space Up, yeah,
like you sold it and then your

816
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:47.000
flight because there is a moment where
I kind of betray This is part of

817
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:50.679
the Crimson Fleet quest line. There
isn't you get to a point where you

818
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:55.800
can kind of betray someone and get
them kind of kicked out of the pirates

819
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.800
and now like I'm gonna come find
you, like one day when you're not

820
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.400
least and like literally like I grab
jumped into a system like hours and hours

821
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.639
later in the gameplay, and this
guy has created his own mini fleet and

822
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:13.960
he shows up to like out of
nowhere to fuck you up, and like

823
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:16.840
Space Ups could have done that,
Like if I'd never delivered it. They

824
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:21.880
showed up and they're like, hey, like we can track you because of

825
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.400
the like with space ups, like
when we have our own security force and

826
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.639
you have to like give us the
money you like pay for the item or

827
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:35.760
whatever, Like why is that system
not in there? Yeah? I feel

828
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.679
you on that, and like,
you know, it's I don't necessarily as

829
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:45.519
like backseat developing more so as it's
like we've we've seen these systems, how

830
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.000
the limit, like the how you
can stretch these systems to do interesting things.

831
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.440
But you know, there's there's disappointment
in the fact that it is not

832
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:59.199
fully thought out in a game that
is as big and kind of grand as

833
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.559
Starfield purports itself to be. So
I definitely, you know feel like,

834
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:09.480
damn, there's there's there's missing that
emergent that those water cooler moments I think

835
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.440
are are missing. And I mean
when when you know, when Elder Scrolls

836
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:17.039
games come out, there's you know, there are water cooler moments like Oh,

837
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.639
I'm gonna go check out that thing
that you mentioned. I'm gonna see

838
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.480
that. There's a little bit out
of that with Starfield, mostly because it's

839
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.119
hard to find those things and I'm
glad that like, oh shit, Aaron,

840
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.079
you found that quest. I want
to, I want to, I

841
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.239
want to do that. But yeah, it's the game just it's it's hard

842
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:36.679
at it doesn't necessarily shuffle you there. It's it's on rails. You can

843
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.960
see things happening, but the game
doesn't leave the trail of breadcrumbs that other

844
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:45.559
games in the past have done a
lot better. And I guess the whole

845
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.880
I guess the Going back to the
thing about the vibe of this game,

846
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.039
I think a lot about mass Effect
one, a game that came out in

847
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.280
two thousand and seven, Uh,
something as simple as like the Codex and

848
00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:00.039
mass Effect. It was so mass
it was like that's a revelation. You

849
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:01.960
have this this guy speaking to you, and like, yeah, the first

850
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.239
Contact war was this just and that
with the Turians and rebur indoctrination. Like

851
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:12.079
hell yeah, dude, I love
that ship. Build this world for me

852
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:16.360
in a very concise way, so
I have a grasp of who I am

853
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:20.840
and what I'm doing in this world
and what I'm getting involved in. And

854
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.440
Masspectors said like it masspect is like
it doesn't have necessarily the breadth that that

855
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.039
Starfield has, And you know,
they're very different games. But when I

856
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:35.079
think about what we're talking about,
how each planet or each city, it's

857
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:39.039
just kind of these one off encapsulations
of whatever sci fi trope that we've seen

858
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:44.800
in the past. Mass Effect has
this through line where every no matter what

859
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:46.159
planet you'd go on, whatever,
no matter what city you've gone, if

860
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:51.079
you go back to the citadel,
there's a consistency and how all these civilizations

861
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.199
interact, how they live. They're
very different from one from one another,

862
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.679
but you get a sense that like, oh, these are all of these

863
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:01.639
cultures, all these society these do
interact with each other on some level and

864
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:07.239
have shared values and have shared technologies, and when they don't, it's a

865
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:10.280
very stark contrast. And there's story
elements to build that out. So,

866
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.760
you know, an old RPG like
Mass Effect has such a grand sense of

867
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:20.679
dare I say, world building,
and there's like such a distinct sci fi

868
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:25.639
vibe that even and when you're going
through sterile like spaceships or Darillic spaceships,

869
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:30.320
or landing on a remote plan or
whatever, there's it all feeds into this

870
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:36.119
sense of discovery or the sense of
interconnectedness between all the different elements that the

871
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.880
game is trying to sell you on, and like the central conflict is something

872
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.840
that is super easy to buy into. These super super bad guys want to

873
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.360
destroy the world. Cool, but
it's all about how you how you build

874
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:49.039
that journey and like how you get
there and what do the villains have to

875
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.639
say. I remember in mass spect
one on Vermeier when I'm speaking to Sovereign

876
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:57.280
and this it was just like this
chilling moment where I'm like, I'm talking

877
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:01.519
to the villains and I'm getting their
perspective and feels like this really otherworldly experience

878
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:07.519
where oh shit, like this is
this can change the course of this game's

879
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.800
world, and it does throughout the
rest of the series. When you reach

880
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.760
that moment in Starfield, it's kind
of like laughable, It's it's almost funny

881
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:17.960
in a way where this game is
trying to take itself so seriously with these

882
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:23.760
out of like these out of other
worldly concepts, and I'm like, none

883
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:28.760
of this ship is making any sense. And and of course there's going to

884
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.840
be an element of supernatural to it, or you know, to to kind

885
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.800
of fill in the gaps for the
sci fi world, there's going to be

886
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.239
an element of supernatural to it.
But the way that they do in this

887
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:42.880
game is so fucking ridiculous that I'm
just like throw my hands up and I'm

888
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:47.360
like, all right, y'all just
making shit up now, and yeah,

889
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.880
and I think that that is that
is kind of why. Like I know

890
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.079
that the main story isn't the main
course in a game like this, but

891
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.639
I think the main story is supposed
to set the stage for everything else.

892
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:00.920
We'll think about like Skyrin, how
like the main stories about the dragons,

893
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.239
and it set up very early.
You know, you were dragon born.

894
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.480
Dragons are invading. They haven't been
there any You can ignore the main story,

895
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:12.800
but like, dude, there's fucking
dragons wandering around everywhere and like burning

896
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.039
people alive, and everyone like talks
about it like there is a very clear

897
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:22.320
like this is affecting the world,
you know, and like nothing like no

898
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:27.039
one in outside of like the main
quest, like even knows that that main

899
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.840
quest is happening or that it has
any consequences to literally anything, because it's

900
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:34.440
just like it's it's just kind of
its own weird thing off to the side,

901
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.719
right, y'a is doing that artifact
ship over there whatever, yea,

902
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.280
And the characters will be like,
yo, this is this discovery is going

903
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.519
to change the course of history,
and I'm like, is it though?

904
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.960
Really didn't? Like no one else
cares outside of us. They might invent

905
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:57.039
cellphones, y'all, maybe they can
start talking to each as in my iPhone

906
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:01.079
too. That to Earth? Nah? And uh, I guess like one

907
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:07.199
more thing is about like the science
part of it, because the game does

908
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.880
pay reverence to things like you know, NASA and space early space travel in

909
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.679
our in human history. But once
you start to uncover the threads of like

910
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:21.519
oh, the deep lore about like
how everyone ended up in space, it

911
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:28.920
is it is really really weak.
It's like it it feels like very little

912
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.960
thought was put into building that aspect
that should have been like a big relevant

913
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.480
revelatory moment where like, oh my
god, I uncovered the truth about why

914
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:43.320
Earth is like a barren planet and
and reality. Once you get like the

915
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:45.440
audiologs and do the mission that that
takes you through that it's kind of like,

916
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:49.599
really, this is what this is
what fucked up Earthling? All right?

917
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.719
I guess like I feel like we
could have solved that problem very easily.

918
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.760
Or the thing about like going to
Earth too, I'm like, where

919
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.480
the fuck is everything? And I
know that humanity has abandoned it completely,

920
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:04.320
but you know, it's like why
is the entire world a desert? Like

921
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.960
where's the ruins, where's the Like
it's just another procedurally generated planet, and

922
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.639
man, it kind of leans it
a thing. I was gonna ask you

923
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:16.440
guys, like have you just like
landed on a random planet to like see

924
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:21.480
what that experience is like, because
I was like, Okay, that's supposed

925
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:22.760
to be a thing. Let me
give that a shot, like you know,

926
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:30.719
land down and it's like it's fine. I guess, I don't know,

927
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:37.280
like I there wasn't anything particularly interesting
to do, like I like initially

928
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.360
because it's like they kind of make
a whole thing about it where there's like

929
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:42.559
a whole tree you can go down
where you're like, oh you you could

930
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.840
be like a zoologist and you can
like planet scan and like it's almost like

931
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.039
you can role play like a person
who's like I'm gonna discover you know,

932
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:55.000
uninhabited planets and and mark them and
you know, catalog everything, and you

933
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:59.119
can do that. You can go
up and like scan plant plants and animals,

934
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:04.599
which is fine kind of gets after
a while, but I don't know,

935
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:06.679
you just kind of go there and
you're just like scan that, scan

936
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:15.480
that, and then you're like okay, yeah, and it's like there's there

937
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.800
will so they'll be uh, little
objectives that are like, hey, this

938
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:22.280
thing's unknown, go check out what
that is, and you'll like okay,

939
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:27.000
And at least in my experience,
I never found anything interesting like I found

940
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.199
one time. I found like a
cave with all these like crystals coming out,

941
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:30.119
and I was like, oh,
I'm gonna go in this cave and

942
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:35.480
I go in the cave and there's
a couple bug aliens there and I shoot

943
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.199
them and like that was kind of
it. Like the cave just had nothing

944
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:44.119
in it, and I was like, there's no I was like, there's

945
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:51.239
no like everywhere of the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are

946
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:53.159
the lock picks of the world.
And I know that stuff was probably procedurally

947
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:59.000
generated, but it really feels that
way because it's just like I'm not sure,

948
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:00.880
Like I just stopped going to them
because I'm like there was nothing in

949
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:05.920
them, Like there's nothing exciting to
find or do. I'm just kind of

950
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:11.599
wandering around this like we generated planet
and like it looks nice and it looks

951
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:16.360
you know, it's like Yep,
your procedural generation tech has has gotten better,

952
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:20.400
but it's still there's still nothing there, still serving the same purpose yet.

953
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:25.000
Yeah. So yeah, and it
like you do it three or four

954
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.719
or five times, you're like,
well, I'm not going to do this

955
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.519
again because I've learned from the past
five times that I did it that there's

956
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.880
nothing there. So there will be
someone who will planet in the game.

957
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:39.519
And I'm I hope that person is
that's what that's what's sapped, man.

958
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:42.519
But it's it's also important to say
that that there's no rover in the game.

959
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:47.880
Oh yeah, so like you're doing
the shit off foot, so you're

960
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.559
doing it on foot. Like they
there's a lot of invention. They de

961
01:04:51.719 --> 01:05:00.079
invented some things in this world.
No maps. Yeah, I is shocked.

962
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.239
I really thought like there must be
like an upgrade you get to get

963
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:06.599
like a rover or something like a
story moment, we're like, hey,

964
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:11.559
we're giving you a car. Yeah, take everywhere. I'll take a horse

965
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:15.159
even at this point, like something, just take a horse from Skyrin,

966
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.239
just put it in, just go
off. I think since there's a reason

967
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.159
for that, and that's like all
the areas are really constrained yeah, and

968
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:26.079
so I think if you had a
rover, you would break the game pretty

969
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:29.679
quick. So maybe like I showed
up in Orbits and pirates try to get

970
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:30.960
me, and I was like I
played X Wing as a kid. I

971
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.320
know what to do here. Everything
into engines, just book it right,

972
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:40.760
and the planet never got any closer. Oh yeah, like nothing happened,

973
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:43.719
Like I just I was flying and
flying and flying, and the pirates are

974
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.559
getting further and further way and their
chatter was the same. But at a

975
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:49.639
certain point of the game is broke
because it didn't it like the pirates couldn't

976
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:54.400
get to me, but I couldn't
fly anywhere and the planet didn't move,

977
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:59.679
so like you're stuck. Yeah yeah, So I think that's why there isn't

978
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:01.199
a rover, or I think they
really need you to hot foot it like

979
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.920
somewhere, because if you went there
quick and then tried to go past it,

980
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.360
I have a strong feeling you would
just oh yeah yeah, like hit

981
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:15.079
the border of the And again it's
like I get that it's probably a technical

982
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.920
limitation, but it is just so
much less impressive when you realize that,

983
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:23.559
like the planet in front of you
is basically just like a floating jpeg and

984
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:29.119
it's like actually like a thing,
especially because you play something like No Man's

985
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:33.159
Sky where it's like no, you
can like seamlessly like land and take off

986
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:38.440
and like you know, like enter
the atmosphere. Like again, they're different

987
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:43.000
games. I get it, And
but it's like that that is that feeling

988
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:45.320
is so like powerful in a game
like that, and when you realize like

989
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:50.159
you can't do that, and again
it's like it's just you activate the loading

990
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.840
screen, you know, it's like, oh, like that's it doesn't it

991
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:57.519
does? It does take away from
the the novelty of Yes. Yeah,

992
01:06:57.559 --> 01:07:00.360
like I said, I still like
seeing planets, looking at the data sheets

993
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:02.480
and seeing it in my view when
I when I, when I, when

994
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:06.920
I grab jump there. They're very
nice JPEGs, very nice. That ship

995
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:09.920
is high res. I'll tell you
how much I did that shit in four

996
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.440
Cam I PC. But it's a
good looking games, real good JPEGs.

997
01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.079
But yeah, like when you are
doing the ship combat, and I enjoy

998
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.840
the ship combat actually was as I
got deeper into it. What we're talking

999
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.800
about ship customization. I do like
some of the dog fights you get into

1000
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.400
where because you have to really think
about the angle at which you come at

1001
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.480
your enemies and out maneuver them in
a way so you can get good shots,

1002
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.719
take down their shield, make sure
you load them up with missiles before

1003
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.480
their shield rejects. Stealthed by like
going a little you can put the engines

1004
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:39.280
low, yeah, prep it and
be like all right, I'm gonna get

1005
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:42.320
ready wait for them to get the
right moment. It was amazing the targeting

1006
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:45.079
system. It was amazing playing on
the stream. We had to play from

1007
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:49.000
the beginning of the games. So
I went back to the basic Frontier ship,

1008
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:56.039
and I was like very like impressed
with how different I was so used

1009
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:59.239
to playing the Razor Leaf ship,
and I like, which is like mudded

1010
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:03.199
in different ways and like much sleeker. The way it turns is quaker and

1011
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.239
stuff like that. And I was
trying to get into a dog fight and

1012
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.079
I was set on stream. I
was like I got this, Like I'm

1013
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:14.039
told like, I've gone so good
at dog fighting, and then like I'm

1014
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:15.840
trying to I'm trying to do the
thing that I do in my Razor Leaf,

1015
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:19.399
which is I fly straight at the
person the moment I kind of like

1016
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:24.119
start to get under them. I'm
already turning behind them and like trying to

1017
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:27.560
do that in the frontier, like
I got to feel the ship like fighting

1018
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.399
me. I was like, I
can't do this turn, and I was

1019
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.319
like, that's really cool, Like
and I wish that that level of like

1020
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.920
there's a little just a little tweak
here, and it completely kind of changes

1021
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:43.560
how the game feels. Was something
that was apparent in the rest of the

1022
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:49.039
game, but it's really in these
like little pockets and little systems that you

1023
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:55.359
can feel stuff like that. Yeah, the ship combat once again, like

1024
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:59.359
building, once you get once you
understand what the game is asking you to

1025
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:01.439
do, it gets fun. It
gets really fun. Oh yeah, Yeah,

1026
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.840
It's definitely definitely one of the highlights
for sure, especially like the main

1027
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:09.079
Quest has some dog fights in it
has some really tough ones too, like

1028
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:13.760
if you don't invest in piloting skills
or upgrades for your ship, you might

1029
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.159
run into a wall with that stuff. And I was like, oh,

1030
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:18.840
okay, cool. The game is
pushing back against me and saying, hey,

1031
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.840
you have to engage with this system, and I kind of like that

1032
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.159
and it's like, okay, well
then I'm going to do that. And

1033
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.199
then oh I discovered that I actually
enjoy tweaking with this stuff, and I'm

1034
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:33.760
gonna start buying ships and modding them
and doing like like moving things around.

1035
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.359
Actually, oh, I could build
a hub out of this ship. So

1036
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:41.880
like the ship stuff is like legitimately
very good. There are some quest lines

1037
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:45.159
that you get into, some like
fleet style battles, and that ship is

1038
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.760
really really cool. I wish there
was more of it, because I do

1039
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:54.119
think it is well done. It's
pretty simple, like overall, it's like,

1040
01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:57.960
hey, just shoot shoot these targets
down. That's it. But I

1041
01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.840
think that the when the game gets
when those things get difficult, when you

1042
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.640
start to like die and reload and
we're like, okay, well then I

1043
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:08.319
should come at this angle. Maybe
I shouldn't come in so strong. I

1044
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.319
could turn down my engines here whatever. And then the way you allocate the

1045
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:15.359
different the way you allocate resources two
different parts of your ship, Like,

1046
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:17.920
oh, it was frustrating at first, but once I like understood, once

1047
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.159
I got to grasp him, like, this is actually a fascinating system.

1048
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:26.000
So I like, I do love
that aspect of the game, and I

1049
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:27.960
want to see more of it.
I hope, like, as I poke

1050
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:33.640
more through this game that I do
encounter more bigger ship combat scenarios because that

1051
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:38.560
is that is one of the strengths
of this game, so I definitely give

1052
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:42.319
it props for that. You can
also disable an enemy ship, board it,

1053
01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:45.000
fight your way to the cockpit,
and then steal it, which is

1054
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:46.680
kind of cool. That is sick. I did that once and I was

1055
01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:50.600
like, oh, okay, okay, honestly, like their ships suck,

1056
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.800
but I'll still do it. Honestly. The ship like being on the ships

1057
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:58.640
and the space stations, like I
think like that's some of the best content

1058
01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:02.600
in the game is when is those
like the like not even just boarding random

1059
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:08.159
ships, but like the space stations
or like transports, Like a lot of

1060
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:14.520
the Crimson Fleet stuff takes place on
ships. Outside of like the there's there's

1061
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.760
a bit where you're on a planet, but all of the other things like

1062
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:21.319
take place on ships, and I
think it's one of those things where they

1063
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:26.680
can literally force you into a corridor, so they have a lot more control

1064
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:32.119
over what you're seeing, on what
you're doing, and can create some interesting

1065
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.159
things out of that. It's it's
one of the game's more out in the

1066
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:43.920
open and these environments that it feels
a bit more generic. And it was

1067
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:46.720
funny because I after twenty hours of
playing, I came to the realization I

1068
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:50.119
was like, I've been on a
lot of ships, like like I haven't

1069
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:54.479
been to Betty planets. Like I'm
just on ships a lot of the time.

1070
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.880
And so and you know, the
cool thing is is like you know,

1071
01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.600
if I'm sure Michael, like if
you get really deep into that,

1072
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:05.560
like maybe stuff Field is a game
that you start to really really enjoy and

1073
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:09.800
you're like, well I just do
ship stuff, like I just fly and

1074
01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:15.359
like dolls and piracy and all that. So that there is that aspect where

1075
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:21.640
you can make do a bunch of
kind of different things and make this game

1076
01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:28.399
what you will of it. So
yeah, So it's the ship stuff isn't

1077
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:31.239
surprisingly impressive? I think, Yeah, yeah, And that's like one of

1078
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:35.840
the quest lines actually one of the
best set pieces. It takes place on

1079
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:41.279
a big ship, where like Tom
you mentioned it perfectly, like the controlled

1080
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:45.039
set pieces that they can do on
these ships because they are in tighter spaces

1081
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.119
and like as you uncover, like
oh what happened to this crew? Ye

1082
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:51.079
get the audio logs and like,
oh no, the security systems are going

1083
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:54.880
off. Now I'm fighting a bunch
of robots, and then I make it

1084
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.279
to a certain point in that quest
linees like oh, now the ship is

1085
01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:00.520
going down and now I'm like fighting
robots while it's burning down and I'm trying

1086
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:04.760
to escape. And then now the
my my my like status, I'm burning

1087
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:11.399
now, so I'm losing health and
I'm worried about like running out of Yeah,

1088
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:15.159
i just collected all of the ship
and I'm over and covered so i

1089
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:18.239
can't sprint, but also I'm burning
to death and I have to use these

1090
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:25.399
items like those Yeah my god,
yeah there there there are moments where they

1091
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.800
do bring all these systems together.
I'm just like, yes, this is

1092
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.840
that good shit. So you know, I mean we spent a lot of

1093
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.840
time like dissecting some of the some
of the flaws in our experience, but

1094
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:39.600
and we also you know, we
talked a lot about the things that we

1095
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:43.399
did enjoy. But you know,
all in all, it's there, Oh

1096
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:45.800
it does these things really really great, and it's like, oh wow,

1097
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:49.640
they've really missed the mark on all
of these other things. So any we've

1098
01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:54.840
already seen a variation in the opinions
out there, which is which is cool

1099
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:58.119
to see. I enjoy I enjoy
that aspect of it. And it also

1100
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.520
depends on like what do you put
them most weight and when you go into

1101
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.720
this game, because some people be
like, funk, what happens in the

1102
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:05.680
main story. I'm here to do
some bullshit and maybe you can run into

1103
01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:08.479
some good bullshit and be like,
Yep, this is the game for me

1104
01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.880
totally. Yeah. I think more
so than because it's a game that's less

1105
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.079
about a Curia experience and more trying
to offer everything, Like it is going

1106
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.800
to create situations where you wanted to
do this one thing and it does it

1107
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.439
well, and so you're like,
cool, it's my game of the year

1108
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:25.880
because it lets me do this one
specific thing really well, deliver coffee and

1109
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:29.680
that. Yeah. Yeah, And
like, as someone who reviewed, it's

1110
01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:32.880
like I feel obligated to engage with
everything, so I have, Yeah,

1111
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:38.359
of course, so I try to
see everything through to as much an extent

1112
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:41.560
as I can in the period that
I have the game. So it is

1113
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.239
you know, I feel like I've
took a more comprehensive approach to playing the

1114
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:49.439
game, and many other people will. But if you you know, if

1115
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.600
you if you play this game,
you free ex site for it by all

1116
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:55.199
means like jump into it because like, again, you know, there are

1117
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.239
a lot of I have a lot
of problems with the game, but overall,

1118
01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:00.720
I still enjoyed my experience. It's
seven out tend is good. And

1119
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.560
yeah, I thought about him like, yeah, that's you know, I

1120
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:08.119
would I'm I'm glad that I played
this game because there was there were some

1121
01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:12.039
really cool shit and like things I
had to push against and flaws that I

1122
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:15.439
really like really came to surface.
But you know what, I'm glad I

1123
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:17.520
saw it through, had a lot, had some had I would say I

1124
01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:20.640
had a lot of fun with it, and I imagine many other folks will

1125
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:24.560
too. So you know, just
think about that when you look at the

1126
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:27.159
you know, don't just be looking
at them scores. Buddy. You know,

1127
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.560
I've rolled two thousand words about this
thing. You know, I'll say

1128
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:32.600
I've put a lot of time and
efforts to the So yeah, I agree,

1129
01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:38.079
people's experience will probably very pretty wildly. Yeah, I like that.

1130
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.560
I think so like Tom. Tom, you know, we were talking the

1131
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:42.840
whole time we were playing this game, and Tom was like, oh man,

1132
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.600
I like really like this game.
I'm doing all this cool stuff and

1133
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:48.119
and a lot of us were just
like, okay, where where do I

1134
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:53.359
go? Tell me where that is? Like a lot of you. You

1135
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:56.439
had set me on the path with
the Mentis mission, which is one of

1136
01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:00.159
the earlier like side things that you
can do, and you're the one that

1137
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:01.359
brought that up, and that was
the beginning. Like I was like,

1138
01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:04.479
Okay, I'm gonna do that first
because when it crops up, I'll do

1139
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:08.520
it. And that led me down
the path that I went on. So

1140
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.760
it was funny to me that you
were like, I'm not finding anything interesting.

1141
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.039
I was like, but you told
me about this thing. Yeah,

1142
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.399
that's the thing. Meanwhile, my
experience was I got to New Atlanta and

1143
01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:23.159
said, all right, I'm gonna
really explore this this you know city and

1144
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:27.720
see what I can find. And
like I was just finding duds and having

1145
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.319
no luck taking bad elsa els,
And it's like I should have been doing

1146
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.159
the ship stuff the whole time.
You are if you are very burnt by

1147
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:40.399
that, you are you there's there's
a trauma response. I'm let me even

1148
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:44.560
something like this was even more so
the whole thing with that coffee thing was

1149
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:47.880
I met a guy and he's like
telling me about how he's like got like

1150
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.880
this girlfriend and he wants to like
buy her a ring and get her and

1151
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:55.359
like marry her and leave the planet. And I'm like all right, dude,

1152
01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:57.560
like whatever, like he's just telling
me this stuff, and I'm like,

1153
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.880
okay, is this like a quest, like but it's not a quest.

1154
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:04.479
He was just telling me that,
and I was like thanks, cool,

1155
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:10.479
yeah, exactly. And then later
I run into this janitor's is like

1156
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.640
sweeping up and I like talk to
her because I'm just like, hey,

1157
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:16.880
you got anything interesting to say?
And then she's, uh, the one

1158
01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:19.439
who asked me to get the coffee. And then when I got her the

1159
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:23.840
coffee, she's like, oh yeah, me and my boyfriend loved this coffee.

1160
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.920
She starts talking and I realized she's
the girlfriend of the other guy,

1161
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.439
and my brain was like, oh
connection, Oh is this going to lead

1162
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:35.399
to something? Nope, the fucking
lead anything. And it's like I like

1163
01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:38.800
part of me is like, I
guess it's kind of cool that they like

1164
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.760
had to have that dialogue, and
it kind of I guess makes the world

1165
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:45.800
feel bigger, but like I was
still like I want to do something,

1166
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.800
like I want to do some fun
so like yeah, it just was like

1167
01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:51.159
a. I think I just had
like a bad roll the dice at the

1168
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:55.239
beginning where where I was like,
man, I'm telling nothing's happening here,

1169
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:59.039
and and I agree, Like once
I started maybe like engaging more like the

1170
01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.840
ship stuff and and doing some of
those like more bespoke quests, like that's

1171
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:04.640
when I was like, Okay,
I'm starting to feel this a little bit

1172
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:10.600
more. Yeah, you know,
so I think your people are going to

1173
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:13.079
have an experience like Tom, and
I think people are gonna have an experience

1174
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:15.520
like me, you know, where
you can just have a you just happen

1175
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:19.880
to pick the wrong thing to focus
on. Yeah, like I don't get

1176
01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:23.640
this game. Yeah, you'll you'll
spend twenty hours in the wrong direction,

1177
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:27.159
and like that will happen to people, So it will happen, I think,

1178
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:30.800
like the I mean, the divisiveness, but just like the variations in

1179
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:35.319
people's experiences will You'll definitely see a
lot of that as more and more people

1180
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:40.800
play the game and talk about it. So it's like, yeah, I

1181
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:45.520
think it's it's definitely an interesting game
to to talk about and to see other

1182
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.920
people experience, just because of like
that role of the dice aspect of it

1183
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:54.399
and not in the same way that
Balther's Gate is because it's like, holy

1184
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.680
fuck, dude, I can't you
got away with that? Like, oh

1185
01:18:57.119 --> 01:18:59.760
Lazel said that to you. Oh
my god, shadow Heart hates me because

1186
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:01.960
I this thing. You like,
she did this thing at this one town

1187
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:04.880
and now she's a criminal, but
she's like the sweetheart of my life and

1188
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:09.920
this game like that. That's the
kind of conversations you have about Balder's game

1189
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:13.079
that I do think there's like I
find that more valuable. But I think

1190
01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:16.600
also the thing about Starfield is people
sharing, like I found this, go

1191
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:21.920
seek that I found this. Don't
do that, and yeah, another thing

1192
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.680
that there's value. Another thing that
this game could stand to borrow from Starfield

1193
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.159
is it could stand to be a
lot hornier. We have you know,

1194
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:35.399
we we have you know, we
have we we have a show that we're

1195
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:40.119
working on behind the scenes, and
you know it has to do with like

1196
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:44.199
romance and video games. And bould'st
Gates three came out and obviously that became

1197
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:49.760
like a really great thing to tap
into, and we were kind of expecting

1198
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:53.479
that to be something on the Starfield
side of like, okay, we can

1199
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:57.720
compare it can trast these games and
told these games and like the person on

1200
01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:00.520
our team who's like working on it
is like, so is anyone I liked,

1201
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:08.239
like had any roomance, Like Will
was flooding with one of my companions,

1202
01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:14.560
but it died out of it.
There's there's the there's the dialogue choice

1203
01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:16.760
that says flirty and you're like,
there's like, oh yeah, this it's

1204
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:18.640
been really crazy, like being on
this journey with you, and then you

1205
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:21.199
have the opposite, this flirt and
it's like, well, I'm really glad

1206
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:26.359
that you're on this. And then
they're like, oh wow, that's crazy

1207
01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:30.399
anyway, like we should take care
of business, all right, that's it,

1208
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:32.880
Like damn, this is like Starfield
is the equivalent of my parents trying

1209
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:36.600
to teach me about the birds and
the beach. No, motherfuckers are so

1210
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:42.119
sexless. Come on, man,
it's like nobody's getting their back blown out

1211
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:46.039
in Starfield. You hate to see
it, but like not that I expected

1212
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:50.439
at but does the games generally are
very clean cutting that way, so I

1213
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:54.359
didn't expect that going the Starfield.
But in the contrast of where I'm like,

1214
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:59.359
yo, I'm choosing my foreskin and
ball just game I'm in Starfield,

1215
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:02.039
Like, I don't know. I
guess I'm gonna say something nice to you

1216
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:04.560
and you'll like it, or you
won't and we're gonna keep it pushing.

1217
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:12.439
Those are contrasting games, is what
I'll say. So you know the vibes.

1218
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:15.960
That was the moment where I realized
that it wasn't gonna go anywhere.

1219
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:18.840
But you could dress up your other
characters in the Darfield it's you can.

1220
01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:23.720
Yeah, I saw that. At
least it is that. It was like,

1221
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.439
screwed. If we're not having a
good relationship here, you're wearing the

1222
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:30.960
dumbest outfit I saw, y'all.
Y'all put Sam in some wild what are

1223
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:38.800
the dancer outfits? Yeah, well
I'm just gonna enjoy this anyway. That's

1224
01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:42.760
what's up? All right, well
Field, we can go in for a

1225
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.880
little while. Yeah, anyone have
any other There's a lot to say about

1226
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:47.279
this game we did. Yeah,
I think it feel like, yeah,

1227
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:51.199
I got most of my thoughts of
Fields out there. But again, like

1228
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.800
check out my review for a little
bit more of a focused or not focused

1229
01:21:56.039 --> 01:22:00.840
because we focused here. We did
some some good talking and debating out here.

1230
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:04.439
But but yeah, that the review
is kind of more comprehensive look at

1231
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.920
all my thoughts and feelings and my
experience with it, and check out the

1232
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:12.560
video review that both Aaron and Jean
Luke worked on team work out there with

1233
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:16.560
some capture footage from Tom as Well. Yeah, peep that if you want

1234
01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:23.760
to get a full full view of
my thoughts for Starfield. Yeah. Yeah,

1235
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:26.359
I think it's gonna I think we've
said about it. It's gonna be

1236
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:30.199
one that I'm excited to see other
people's opinions on. Honestly. Yeah,

1237
01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:38.119
you know, as long as you're
like cool about it. I think one

1238
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:41.359
big takeaways if you find yourself having
a bad time in this game, don't

1239
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:45.720
be afraid to look up other people's
experiences because there are some cool planets,

1240
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:47.439
absolutely, and I think you just
need to know where they are, Like

1241
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.319
you, Jim, I'll go and
tell you. Yeah, so well we'll

1242
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:57.640
tell you where they are. Oh
we will. I heard, I'll tell

1243
01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:00.640
you where the cool stuff is if
you're not finding it. Is actually that

1244
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.199
I'd like. Honestly, I wish
there was like someone handed me a thing

1245
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:08.119
and said, make sure you check
all this stuff out so that well,

1246
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:10.880
we'll have that ready for y'all.
If you're gonna jump into starfield. So

1247
01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:14.640
yeah, if you do one thing, we'll take it back around. Get

1248
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:18.279
arrested, get arrested, do some
light murders and get arrested. You don't

1249
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:24.720
have to, but okay, fine, my ship. That's what happened to

1250
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.359
me. Oh that's that. That's
what I think. That's what got me

1251
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:31.600
to darn check that contra man.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know you

1252
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:45.560
could not do that. That murder. Oh already, Well, I think

1253
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:49.119
we're gonna call it on this podcast. Thank you for tuning in everyone,

1254
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:53.640
Michael, thank you for being here. Of course, I've always Aaron.

1255
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:56.560
Thank you for coming on. Thank
you, and Tom, thank you for

1256
01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:00.920
tuning in from from New York as
well. It was great getting you on.

1257
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.720
We're from New York, are you
not not? I'm not the strong,

1258
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:09.920
but so yeah living Yeah, so
I actually live in town call north

1259
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:15.640
Bergen. So I'm on the Jersey
side of the river. Yeah exactly,

1260
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:20.840
but is quicker than my Brooklyn commute, Eve was. So I'm and I

1261
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:26.079
have Indian laundry, so I'm not
complaining. Okay, all right, all

1262
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:32.159
right, flex and honest, yeah, enjoy your San Francisco holding my launcher

1263
01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:40.000
down the street. Yeah, well
all right, I'm gonna go home do

1264
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.399
some laundry. I guess. Oh
fu, I gotta do that. I

1265
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:45.439
got some final Fantasy rating to do. So all right, guys, we're

1266
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:48.399
gonna get out of here. For
all of you tuning in, thank you

1267
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:53.000
for listening as always, and hey, if you play, start feel this

1268
01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:55.039
weekend. I hope you have a
good time, hope you hope you enjoy

1269
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:57.640
it. Happy gaming, happy gaming, happy gaming everyone. All right,

1270
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:06.800
enjoy your gaming, enjoy your gaming. Goodbye to read to day to day,

1271
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:25.399
b B to day to day.
Bring on day to day.