Very cool. Okay, cool, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Your boy be seeking the building. I'm here my brother Casy. What's good?
Good people? I'm also what's good? Everybody's your boy, Dre.
I'm here with my brother Keith. What's good? Case? What? What's
good? What's good? Good people? I'm here my brother zeke Ladies and
gentlemen, cats and god. And I'm here with my I'm here with my
half brother. Tone. What's good? Tone? He obviously what water?
I'm just saying. You cut me off the script first. You know that.
You know what I mean. You know what I mean. He was
coming back to you. He just went to meet I was with him first,
and I was gonna come back to you. Okay, okay, that's
all like he I think he back on this old moscowl days. Break me
down to y'all level. Just well to see no day, he knows that
what to talk about ridiculous Okay, not in height, but in behavior.
Okay, we're gonna not in height, We're gonna we're gonna start it off
with injury report. Yeah, so Luca is out with some type of chess
contusion and he has been downgraded from probable to questionable. Go Celtics, you
definitely in your line up if you have any chance of winning. It's very
true. It's a good thing. It's a good thing, but he's still
questionable work Which one is better probable or questionable? Probable is probably not gonna
play. Questionable is you're still fifty fifty years But when they say downgrade is
from propable questions, So it goes questionable but probable that you out the game
time decision to yeah yea yeah, yeah. So that's good. But the
fact that he has it, like you said before, is an issue.
The fact that they had to, you know, put it out there,
it's an issue. We're gonna go to the shoot around where we talk about
things going on around the NBA besides the NBA Finals. Tone, would you
like to hit the clip talk about Stephen Curry. Stephan is not a generational
talent. Generational means you can't mimic it. You can't mimic Magic Johnson six
' nine point guard with the vision. No, Kirby was a great basketball
fans bro, So you wouldn't say Steph shooting is not. It makes him
a hard work, hard working Would you say Kobe was a generational talent,
he wasn't. Nope, So that was my god guilt. And then T
Max said this, he hasn't cracked my top teen yet. Steph has had
a phenomenal career. I mean four championships, two league MVPs, he has
a final MVP. But if you go back in his career when a Draymond
is out of the lineup for the season, if you look at La Thompson
has missed the season. To me, if you're that great one of your
guys are missing, you can't make the playoffs. I can't put you on
top five or top teen. I just can't. So what Gill is saying
is that physical attributes play one of the most vital roles in being a generational
talent, right because it's not something that just anyone can possess, whereas the
hard work is something that anyone can do. So before we get go in
on this comment, and you know, I wanted to take that we be
objective and that you look at what he said and I take the fandom out
of it and just really look at what he just said, be analytical about
it. Well, first of all of the three of us, I'm the
most objective of all of y'all. Let let let's just start there when I
cap nothing cap East, when I was literally god listen, when we were
literally talking than when we were literally talking about Yannis and I questioned his basketball
IQ. Y'all were the fans you crazy? You crazy? But everybody in
America has agreed with me that his i Q even still is questionable. Man,
when it comes to our favorite players that aren't the Bucks, I am
most objective than both of you. Casey for sure, because Lebron can do
no wrong. Luca for you, great white hopet and then then got you
on his team, that's for sure, because you can not objective. I
can't be objective with Luca me saying he can cry a lot just because I'm
not joining the bandwagon. You could be crying all the time. That don't
mean I'm a super fandamn man can't do no wrong. That's you. When
it comes to steps of fame, right now, he's not in the Hall
of Fame. He shouldn't be. So let me just let me just only
not in the Hall of Fame because the injuries, well, so you really
want to get technical time top. It's not about t mac so let's not
even go there, because I know how you feel about TMT. He's on
your lebron starting five. Okay. He claimed you on his taxes too if
he could. So we're not gonna even go down that road. They can't
tell me how you really feel without saying it. Hey, so so let
me just comment. Wait, don't need them clips again. Hopefully you'll be
back. Okay. So Gilbert Arenas is a clown. Uh we know that
his open I'm not just saying that because of Steph, because remember he went
in on Yanni's the same way, and we came at him the way he
went in on Yiannis. Gilbert Arenas is the bitter X that is upset because
everybody else is happy. So his opinion is flawed, heavenly flawed anyway.
Gun toting man Tracy McGray. Tracy mcgrady's remarks are also very questionable for a
guy who is most known for scoring eleven points in what how many minutes?
Was that? Thirteen points in what like eighteen seconds or something? That is
the biggest highlight of his career. So to call Steph Kurr. Listen,
when you think about the term generational, you think about a term that is
copy catty. Stephan didn't copy cat no one. The only peer shooters we
had before Steph Curry were Reggie Miller and Ray Allen and potentially Larry Bird.
Stephan didn't copy any of them. He evolved and surpassed all of them.
If you look at it now, you're a coach, what do these players
want to do now that you're coaching, Casey? What are they doing?
They're jacking up three pointers from anywhere on the court. Yes or no,
let me finish, and I will let you have Eddie three point line was
stop it, stop it? Cap Now you just say cap to him.
You just say cap to him, because I see what you're going before you
go any further. The shots like Steph Curry is taking, Gilbert was taking
those shots before him. Agent zero. Remember Agent zero started out not to
that level as he was. Go back and watch his highlights. That's why
he's saying that. Gilbert is saying, I was doing those long range shots
like Steph doing right now. I was doing those pull ups in people's mouth
like he was doing on his best Go back and look on his best day.
He's not Steph. Knee injuries is what stopped Gilbert Areenas from being guns
is what stopped Gilbert Arenas. Okay, Gilbert got fanned for guns. Don't
give him a way out for injuries, that's cat, But either way go,
he's that famous that pull up game like step got started with Agent zero.
I'm gonna tell you like this. I'm gonna tell you like this.
Steph Curry is undoubtedly a generational talent because all the kids want to be like
Steph. Okay, all the kids want to be like All the kids want
to be like Steph. Steph reinvented the three point shot. Steph is the
first player that had the NBA even talking about a four pointer. Okay,
then so let me ask you a four pointer. Let me ask you a
question. Then, So was James Harden generational? I would say James Harden
has generational talent. He absolutely has generational talent, but he's not a generational
player. If you want to talk about generational players, you're thinking about once
in a lifetime players. So Michael did he does not contradict everything. He
just did not contradict that you can have are you do you have a I
can't have talent but not be that way right. So Steph got generational talent,
but he's not generational. Cap he cat good. I'm almost done.
Michael Jordan is generational, Larry Bird is generational. Magic is generational forward who
ran the point. Lebron is generational. Steph Curry is one hundred and fifty
generational. All those comments were just hated by players who didn't have as good
of a career as him. For first of all, before I even go
ahead and talk about your opinion or what I think about this comment. And
I brought this up because I number one, I knew this was gonna happen.
You know, you saying generational talent is him shooting the ball really good?
What I said, I said, generational talent? What he is?
He changed the three point game? No, that's what I said. It
popular, He made it popular. That's not that's not generational talent. That's
what we're talking about here. We're not talking about somebody who's real popular.
We're talking about generational talent, something that cannot be duplicated. Records records saying
I made the most three pointers in NBA history, and that record can be
broken. It wasn't touched for twenty years. That record can't be broke.
It wasn't just like hold on just the record, Ray Allen. I think
Ray Allen Reggi Miller was like, right, No, Reggie Miller held that
record. But the point I'm making is this, when you talk about generational
talent, this is something that can't be duplicated. Steph Curry is a hard
working player that shoots a four or five hundred shots per practice. So what
that means is he worked very hard to get where he was at. He
did not come into the league as that guy. Lebron James came into the
league as that guy. Why because you've never seen a six six' eight,
two hundred and fifty pound guy pushing a point can go from Florida four,
block your shot, shoot the jumper, he can do everything. You
can't duplicate that. Shaquille O'Neill six seven, three hundred and fifty pounds moving
like he moving, you can't duplicate Joker's doing it right now. Joker is
not doing it right now. Is a good basketball player, yes, he
is. Generation He wants to get there. He wasn't there when he came
in the league. Time top whoa, whoa. So you're telling me because
Steph didn't start that way. He's not generational. He not that he became
time went on makes him generational. He worked hard? Did he have did
that? Work hard? He worked? But did he when he started off?
Where was he at? On a trading block? And we should have
took him? He was on trading block. But it was a gamble,
yes, okay. So when you talk about we're talking about generational talent,
Shack was traded four times. What's your point? One point? He was
trading his attitude. It had nothing to do with his body, like his
his body like you can't duplicate Shack. We have yet to see a Shack
for a reason. We have yet to see a Lebron James for a reason.
Way in America is Steph Curriet generational? No, he he copied Michael.
He not only did. And I don't saying he copied. I'm saying
Kobe's Brian was another person who worked hard. He worked extremely hard where he
got And that's the mamba mentality of everybody's he talking about, like you hone
in and and and to think about it us being a generational talent. And
that's why I was like, hey watch it. Listen to what they're saying.
I can't believe I'm sitting here saying and then it didn't want to go
to the tax thing, the t MAC thing was injuries, just because I
see where he's coming from, and didn't blame him for his team not making
the playoffs. When Captain Kesey always says he didn't have no help, Lebron
didn't had no help. Lebrono make the playoffs. Lebrono make the playoffs.
The Lakers didn't make the playoffs when he was hurt season, when he was
hurt, but he came back. But he came back and they didn't make
it. Lebron is so good. He took what keys be saying to a
team of bombs to the finals in an era that's a little different. Come
on five times, come on five times in the Eastern Conference. Is on
top of that, he almost he almost beat up. He almost be golden.
Say Warriors without who Kyrie is almost they got destroyed. They almost better.
I'll give you this if they had him, If they had him,
the Warriors would of loss. I can see how objective that is. That's
or one objective against Curry. Everything else is we hate. But I just
I just thought this contration was very interesting, just because really generational talent and
being a really good basketball player or working hard to get in your position,
it's two different things. If Steph Curry has never had anybody hold his nuts,
I found one. I know you ain't talking about ball, you ain't
talking you talk about me. You want Steph Curry Texas? Alright, he
don't get much because he's in California. But but here's a bottom line.
I don't like it because to me, you, I'm not bitter. That's
one thing I'm not. Both of those guys talking are not champions. Both
of those guys, other than t Mac being explosive, what else can you
say about his career? Steph Curry has four championships in the Western Conference.
The Golden State Warriors built their team through the draft. KD went and joined
them, and they still wont two with him, and they want two with
and two without. So to say that that man can't carry a team is
pretty and salty, and they want to without. But to say that you
can't even get to the playoffs, and and and not to mention the year
that they didn't go Steph miss half that season. I just want Okay,
I'm just saying both both both well, I'm just saying I'm just saying that
to put him to put Steph because I think one of the things about Steph
is he's a really great guy. He's not a feeling. He's a really
great guy. And when you talk about being let's take away, let's take
away the phrase generational talent. Let's just talk about top five, top ten
all time. You know, Steph's like my top five. I don't when
you when you put it in that, I think when the way that team
AC phrased it and he's talking about, hey, you're the guy, this
team is on your shoulders, and you talk about, hey, this is
on your shoulders. At least get us to the playoffs. At least get
into the playoffs. I feel like he has a point. So four championships
is not enough just because he missed the playoffs one one because of k D.
I'm saying this, and and the other ones without Draymond. They don't
win them, but they won them. But he's being penalized because they drafted.
So then Lebron has been penalized every year. Then Lebron is building super
teams, go to the States, not a super team. When did Lebron
not have a super team besides them Clavalier's years, they and what do you
call him? One leg Willie? That's what you call curse on b one
leg Willie Davis, whatever you want to calls. Steph's not a generational player
in your No, I can name ten players I would. I would say
our generational over him. Yeah, I would love to hear all that thought.
Don't you say the team or that thought? Play the next clip to
Curry belonged in the top ten all time. No, he doesn't, but
he probably is eleven. He's not better than Allen Iverson to me, but
being outside of the top ten doesn't it gate your talent? Like Steph Curry
is one of the greatest of all times? You show AI into Steph Curry's
team? Does he win four championships and you do all the ship? He
don't know, he don't alan. Yes, yes, yes, you said
as loud as you are as year. No you did not just show me
a Steph Curry clip with Brandy Jennings comment, Well, first of all,
he's on your side. Okay, I missed it. Replaying clip start over.
I agree to say, like don't tell me he's hating up here.
He really no, he doesn't, but he probably is. Eleven Like,
he's not better than Allen iverson to me, but being outside of the top
ten doesn't negate your talent, like Steph Curry is one of the greatest of
all times. You saw Ai into Steph Curry's team? Does he win four
championships? And you do all the ship? He don't know, he don't,
Alan I, yes, yes, yes, you say it loud as
you are as loud as the year number. When he's stepped past half court.
Everybody's guarding umber. Steph Curry, the dude himself was so dominant that
it didn't win over and souls. Do you know what his team looked like?
Let me let me no, no, no, no, no no
no. This that was aggressive you, Alan Ivers, I'm going on the
Golden State Warriors. Is he winning four championships? Yes? Yes, yes,
because kill me. This is what I want you to tell me.
Think about it like this before you be objective of what I'm gonna say,
I have to be objective. Listen, Steph is a score, right,
He's a shooter. He's a shooter, Alan Iris is or what score neither
one of them playing, no damn d facts. So all all the go
to say Waters needed from Stephan is him to get buckets. All the goal
to say Warriors need for Alan Iris to do is what get buckets? Draymond
and them do all the dirty work. And you know what's funny. I
thought it was interesting because Alan Iris is they're two different kind of how they
play, like, uh, Steph is more of a bring the ball down,
kick at the Draymond top of the key and Draymond, you know,
hit some screens and such and such and such. An he comes around,
Ali Irison needs the ball in my hand. Everybody spread out And that's the
problem that if we had shooters like real shooters, alan Iris definitely got four,
definitely would have got four. So I don't really taking away taking away
Kevin at least three. Think about the wassers he had. I'm glad you
brought that up, Tyrone Hill, Aaron m And No he didn't he did.
He didn't know he did. I'm looking at it right here. He
did not. That was in Denver, Iggy did. Giggy played for the
seventy six to the finals. Are you talking about his finals of his finals.
We we're not giving him mercy because they cheated the Bucks that year,
so he deserved. We get a put the paws on us. I'm not
even gonna lie. I love him, I love the Bucks, but I
put the pauls on us. The rest helped him, though, Alan I
was getting putting, putting in work on us. He was putting in work,
but not enough for them to It's kind of like he's a generational player.
This some type of stuff you talk about when you say generation player,
So al of Iverson, who's went to the way Wait wait, wait wait
take scrubs time out to the finals? Out? What else? When is
Steph ever took some scrubs to the this is this is for KESI, this
is for Kes. So Iverson went to the finals once and he's generational generational
talent. Yes, so Steph went to the finals six times. Hold up
has handles, can cross anybody at any time multiple times. All time scoring
leader in three points, Hyatts field goal percentage in three points. He's not
generational, but Iverson is because the finals? Who do you think started the
crossover? Answer the question? Please? Who made the crossover? Most famous?
All you can talk about this all you can talk about. This is
crosshold. Can you answer the question what iversent is generational but Steph is not.
They're both generational talents. I just said that. Okay, I'm glad
you cleaned up because thats not what you said. I've been said Steph with
generational talent, but he's not a generational player. So so let me just
respond to to this dis message here. I think he did this on purpose.
I didn't doing this purpose. This is what's going on these streets,
and in my opinion, Steph is top ten. But why for all the
reasons I've said on every episode we've been doing for four years, all the
time, he's like my number five. Jesus, he's your number five dude,
Michael Jordan's Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neill, Steph Curry,
He's I'm not even putting him over Kobe Bryant. That's okay, But that's
why this is in the eye of the beholder. So then how are you
going to disrespect him? Dispect? How are you going to disrespect team?
That's the first CLI clip has nothing to do with t MAC. This clip
has nothing to do with you're talking about Steph. But this but is opinionated
opinion. We're still talking about Steph in the still of you Tone Zeke,
who's a who's a crap starter and putting out there myself all of our top
ten will be different and uh and at the discretion of what we like,
You like Luca, me and key Hato. It's okay to like Luca.
He's a baller. We give him hiss friars. We say, he cried,
but do we give him as flowers barely? Kesey likes Lebron I like
Steph. Tone for whatever reason has an obsession with the next right. But
that's his that's his prerogative, so that's our prerogative. And why does he
have to be all that because he said Steph is not generational, that's his
progative. We're talking but that's different though we're not different. The opinion of
the question was is Steph generational? That was the question. The question for
this is Steph top ten? I said yes, you said no, they're
different for questions Casey related because they're not the only reason he's not he's not
in the top thirty said that they're not. There are generational talents who are
not in my top ten, like Larry Bird probably wouldn't be in my top
team because I never seen him play. Larry Bird is not a generational player,
but continue, he's a generational shooter, generational player. I think he
I don't act like Larry Bird didn't change the game of basketball. He made
why the pale community is always looking for their next Larry Bird is the reason
why Caitlyn Clark is who she is right now in the eyes of the media.
I'll take that tone, but I'll reverse it. Steph Curry is the
reason why Caitlyn Clark is shooting from half, which makes him what popular generational
popular women are popular popular art to this time, this is my thing.
We talk about generational talent, where I see this is where this this is
going too. But you said James Harden is James Harden and generational talent?
I said, is he a generational generational talent? Just run her players the
same thing to me, because if you're talking about, hey, you have
a generational player, but you're now generational talent, how can you have one
without the other. That's like saying I like mac and cheese, but I
don't really like cheese. Like that can like American cheese and not there.
That's weird. That's just Noodle's brother. So you like Noodle. But my
thing is when you talk about this is go Larry Bird real quick. Larry
Bird was a left handed three pointed shooter that nobody has ever seen before.
Low key, same thing with Steph. But these guys worked really, really
hard because guess what, there's a long list of shooters you can you can
name off the shooter. Shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter.
But my thing is this, when you talk about generation on talent or a
generational player ever you want to say it, name me somebody like Shack.
I think that's the best Joker no, no time MVP in five years.
So what okay? What is okay when you say Joker triple double walking?
What would what would Joker? Nobody can hold him on the court? What
would Joker do if he had the guard shock? You know how many time
me Shaq would? I didn't say he was better than Shaqkes No hold on
second, No, you about you talk about Joker? Yes, Joker is.
He's a good shooter, he's a good rebounder, he's a good assist
man, he's a walking triple double. So it's Russell Westbrook a generational talent.
At one time I probably would say he was. No, he's not
tell me one point guard that at that average triple doubles ever two seasons in
a row, Oscar okay, And how long did it take for Russell to
break that? How long the fifty year, it took twenty, took a
fifty twenty years, whatever the case may be. What I'm saying is this,
though, we're talking about the body of shack a seven foot, three
hundred and fifty pounds moving away. He moved and he was so dominant that
nobody can hold him. Joker can't be contained, no nobody. And then
on top of that, he's good statistically even if you double team shocked,
he's still a dunken. I am not caught jokers by no means. Rule.
I know he's a generational talent. They had a rule named at the
Shack, the shack attack, the shack hack a shaft hackha like it is
general. The My point is the generational talent. The point of the generational
talent. There will never be anybody like this guy, or we're still looking
for somebody just like this guy to me jokers. Joker falls in that same
category as somebody like Steve Nash. Yeah, somebody is Steve Nash. Kill
somebody who's Steve Nash? You won back to back MVPs and he's like,
oh man, he's a really good basketball player, but he's not a generational
talent. Go to a Chicago w NBA game. Are you crazy? I
thought she was a fan. I thought she was a fan. So so
let me ask you guys, dollar fan. Yes, okay, never mind
thirty five dollars leap. Let me ask you guys this because we haven't done
it in a while. Here the question that he said, Steph is not
even in his top ten. Give me your top ten all time, all
time, give me your top ten. It's gonna take some thinking, so
bear with us. Ninety four feet let us think. After five, it
gets a little, it gets a little cloudy, cloudy, So m Jay,
hold up, in no order? Are you doing them in order?
No order? Okay, I'm gonna go top ten. No, you have
to do it in order to make it count with what they're saying, because
dude was like, well, Steph is maybe number eleven. I'm saying,
you know what I'm saying is if I if I'm gonna pick my top teen,
I don't want to put in the order because then you really got to
see her and think about it. But I go Jordan's Okay, I go
magic. Okay, I'm gonna go what I'm gonna gonde to mic year loyal
customers, bro say Jordan's magic, Kareem Wilt Chamberlain. So let me ask
you this, Oscar Robertson, before you keep going, how can you put
in players that you've never seen play. I've never seen them play in the
game, and I but I can also recognize the greatness. I can see
their highlights, I can see their their stats, I can see all those
things. Be like, this player is phenomenal. See, I don't put
players that I've never seen play. Yeah, okay, but that takes away
That takes away a lot of players, though, because that takes away from
the Kareems, that takes away from uh. I canna say barely Jordan,
but a little bit of barely Jordan. Okay, so you're at eight two
more. I'm fine, No, you're okay, go ahead. It's not
as easy as it looks, is it. No, it's not. I'm
gonna go KD. Wow, I'm gonna go. Can you do yours?
No? I'm asking, like, can you? It's ten? Easy for
you is when I'm asking because he's thinking. You see his face, Yeah,
I'm thinking, I got what was? So four more O it's double
team Jerd. Can you let him finish the way y'all be cutting each other?
Please, Terrence, I need you in the studio, bro report the
determined Phoenix. I need some back up here today. I know it's not
like I said after that that five or six against it is debatable. So
I'm gonna go go ahead. That's seven. I'm gonna go, and I
hate to I hate to do this too. Isaiah Thomas. I'm gonna go
Larry Bird and then I'm gonna go, Man, this is this is kind
of it gets hard. So the okay, and I throw joker in there.
Okay. Top ten of all time. So for me, I'm missing
some people. I know I am, but I you know, if you,
if you sitting down and write it, if you if I'm if if
I told y'all this like two days ago, you'll probably have a better top
ten. So I'm gonna go with kind them all for me and top five
are in order. Michael Jordan's Lebron James, Tim Duncan. I forgot Timmy,
she kill O'Neill. That's four. I forgot Shack. That's Shack.
I ain't say she kill O'Neill. That's five. Now the next five I
would have to think about the order, but they are in the goat conversation
for me, uh, Kobe Bryant, Okay, Kevin Durant, Magic Johnson,
that's eight, right, love him or hate him? Karl Malone,
love him or hate him? Malone about Sir Charles, that's how mean that
ninth Hakeem elijau Wan. I take that. You didn't say Steph. I
said Steph at five. You know, Timmy's my third third. Timmy's my
third man. Listen Timmy. The thing I don't like about I think people
overlook they said, they said Tim Doug. Yeah, I think people overlooked
him because he played in Kobe's era. And I've said it on this podcast.
Why isn't he considered as great as Kobe? And they have the same
amount of rings, have the same amount Kobe is that's a great You need
fundamental to make flashy stand out and vice versas. I was just gonna say,
Timmy, tim Many fun to watch, just cut the Crassi is pretty
boring, but but he gets it done. It does gets it done.
People were saying Charles, people were saying, Charles Barkley, what's the greatest,
and that Timmy came around in that power for us. I can I
can definitely agree to that. But Kobe is that player that got that generation
into basketball. I was just gonna say, great player during the end one
years and he uh that excitement, all that stuff. Kobe had that and
then suck. He took what we loved about Jordan's and gave it back to
the street players to make them love it even more, which is what made
Kobe, in a lot of people's eyes, seem like a better player for
the game of NBA basketball than Timmy. But behind the scenes, Timmy us
that dude who you would build your creative player in your fantasy person on.
If I had to sit here and draft the whole entire NBA during that year,
tim would get picked first. Again. But again, Bro, is
it easy for you or is it hard? It should be pretty straightforward,
Okay, go ahead, this would be interesting. Are you doing yours in
order or no, pretty much? Okay, this is the order. I
want to hear this. Go ahead, bro number one Lebron James okay,
Michael Jordan Okay, Shaquille O'Neal okay. Three, Magic Johnson four, uh,
Kobe Bryant by Tim duncan six, Oh, Julius Irvin seven? Okay,
you know I forgot what's he done? Go ahead, Bro, Scottie
Pippin. I was gonna say I forgot Scottie in my top teen, top
ten, because he's definitely in my top that's eight Scotty Pippen. My last
two would be because I'm torn which one should be. Nine Scotty probably while
he's thinking, Scotty replaces Kevin Durant on my list. Mm hmm, I'm
gonna say Bird and Dan Bill Russell. That's good. That's a really good
list. I've never witnessed them like that. I mean, watch just ask
I've watched videos on them. Doctor j Blayden in the eighties, late eighties,
eighties, but he and Jordan patterned his game after him. I was
watching the NBA in the eighties. How I leave alone? All right?
What wrong with you? Man? Because it's late eighties? I watched it,
gave it. Like the Michael Jordan six seven. I remember everything I
did at six or seven. Like I said before, I remember I was
at when when Jordan won ninety one ninety two. But you said in the
eighties, I remember when the Bulls one game seven. I can remember that.
I remember writing nineteen eighty eight on my papers. Do you have a
photographic memory, then well, let's think it. I do. I got
a very photographic memory, That's what I mean. I'm serious, Like I
can really remember writing nineteen eighty eight on my papers, except for texting your
friends back. That's why I said, let's not get crazy, because Kase,
I like your list. Though I like your list. Never mind,
you probably do look at this phone like I already told him that. I
told him that. So you have photographed people, but you just Patty,
all right, cool, Yeah, I'm listening. You said your top ten
where's because the video good eleven? But we didn't even put on the list
that we definitely noticed. I mean, I think I think top ten tells
a lot about what kind of person you are, or what kind of fan
you are. I think that Iverson for a lot of people was more popular
than he was like dominant, dominant. Hold on, man, Let's give
it a minute, because I ain't get I didn't give you a top ten
in my order, but I feel like a Iverson does on the custle that
eleven, ten, ten, eleven, twelve, Like if you go a
fifteen, then I'll put because from eleven to fifteen can be anybody. It
could be, but it just depends on who you like. Once you get
to eleven, it's who you like the most because you can actually put like
Ray Allen, you can put T Max, you can put all of them
in that eleven to fifteen, but bracket based on you'all list, I still
wouldn't put them there either. It all times it wouldn't because there were some
key names that you guys left off, and those are subjective people based on
where you come, like you're Patrick Ewings, your Moses Malone, your Reggie
Millers, like these are impact players for their team in their league. But
the reason why I said subjective is because like Key said, he didn't watch
them play like that. Then if you really want to get down and dirty,
we can look at like support staffs like Dennis Rodman. You know what
I'm saying Charles Oakley's you know people who really did make a big difference who
should look be looked at compared to like like you say, Draymond's and Ego
Dallas based their skills off of people like that when you're looking at them.
I mean, so even though Iverson is that player, because I will always
go back to the end one error change the way back ski ball was played,
and a lot of people don't want to give it credit, but the
flashiness came into the NBA during the time of Iris and and them, So
the crossovers and all that stuff that really stood out because you're doing things that
Ray for Austin and then was doing off court. You know what I'm saying.
Even though Ray wasn't a good NBA player, I hate to say that
he was. He was. He wasn't good at at wonning. Would you
te would you put Ali Everson in your top ten? He would not be
in my top ten. He wouldn't. I'm looking at the list now,
he probably wouldn't even be in my top fifteen. I say the same thing
too to No disrespect album and three players that I'm taking over Irison that I
didn't put in my top ten because I just and I to look about the
top ten. That's why I got to write it down because it changes so
much. But I'm probably taking Dirk, I'm taking the Greek Freak. I'm
taking Dwayne Wade see, and I would add people like I am, David
Robinson, Reggie Miller. I'm just looking at the list as it sits here.
And watch this, David. This is double overtime. Is this a
line? Yeah, Kevin Garnet would have got added to mine, Clyde Drexley
would have got and KII drex are over Allen. That's my error. Bro,
I'm sorry, and you know what. I hate this dude, but
I still put Carmelo over him. That's interesting. I was to pick Carmelo
over him. Shout out to t he dropped his top ten, he said,
Jordan, Kareem, Lebron, James, Magic, Johnson, Kobe at
number five, six, Timmy at six, Shaquille at seven, uh Will
at eight, nine, Larry Bird, and then ten is at or Russell.
It's just that's a solid list. And Tea, remind the world you
started watching basketball in the sixties. I mean, Tee, when did you
start watching ball like the early eighties? First of all TA I was gonna
apologize to Dre has been sending shots to everybody. He put Jordan that three
T yeah, he put yeah. People put joining that. Uh people,
I love that. We can put it on the screen. Yo, real
quick, never mind, go ahead, go ahead. Uh that's a great
list. T watchball in the eighties. Come on, bro Lebron is not
three on nobody's list. Lebron is He might be one or two. Lebron
is three on some other people list. Really, yes, Kareem was I've
never I'm gonna say never. Kareem has been dominated on every level of basketball,
and that's crazy and up too recently lou Al Sender got us our only
ring. But hold on, didn't Lebron just pass his record? He did
the press this record, but he didn't pass his record. That doesn't that
doesn't take away from him being uh dominant on all three levels. High school,
college bros. Lebron did too. Didn't he didn't go to college.
But Kareem didn't go to the Olympics. He wasn't New Olympics Georgia bar he
wasn't Olympics Love. He wasn't going to the Olympics back then. They started
going until they got to let the NBA players go. He only got his
rings because of magic. I know you, did you not hear me?
That's true. I got to give him a hard time. I love to.
I'm just giving you a hard time. Man. Moving on, uh
Russell, he actually took bird. Steph Curry's in the top ten though,
and dang, I'll take that. We're gonna we're gonna post our top tens
after I do it in my head, but we're gonna post her. We're
gonna post our top tens on our social media pages. And y'all kind of
commented on below and succeed. Heh a t. Don't let them bully you
into changing your list. If Lebron is number three, he's number three,
and he's number three, and as long as Steph is on the list,
our friendship. I see Dre Texan. Hey, Hey, I'm texting my
students. Man Marquette Universe has lost their president. Bro. I'm just checking
in to make sure they all could He died passed away. He got cancer,
all right, So well, thanks for bringing the room down. Appreciate
what you asked. So I say, what such a jerk? You know
what I'm saying you have to be a jerk. I ain't like I'm texting
Tea. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know ke changing this
list and stuff. I don't know what's going on. Bro, How did
I have that column influence over my friends? But I don't know. I
can't get you to do nothing. He missed around, be like, hey,
you won't see no Bucks game next thing? You know you? It
don't change you. Maybe it don't change it. Don't change you? But
moving on? Don't change sy non texting? But the only times you get
a text? Right? He want to go to the know? We don't.
You want to go to the game? You know why? It don't
be too late because first question where the seats? Wow? And then how
many can I get? Define the real seat? That would be the real
question. Can I get game you next? But moving on? Uh?
Dan Hurley has merged as the leading candidate for the Los Angeles Lakers head coaching
job. He is all he's being offered possibly an eight million, I mean
eight year, one hundred million dollar contract. What are your guys thoughts on
this? Too many years? Too much money, that's a lot, and
it's a guaranteed contract. It's only ten million, though nowadays that's cheap.
Yeah, but that is cheap, and that's cheap for she wouldn't even be
the highest paid coach. He wouldn't, but he's a college coach. But
ten million is nothing. That's a that's a tax right off, but coming
from the college. But think about think about think about what you call it.
He probably won a long term deal because that's what they give in colleges.
But think about Manty over there. What did Manti get a lot?
Like thirteen a year? Thirteen what a million? Years? No, you
get like thirty million a year. I don't think it's that Look at four
years like years. He has a six year guaranteed contract and he earns thirteen
million annually. Yeah, thirteen million. That's still too much. You see
the Pistons look at the roster, don't act like they got it. All
they needed was a coach. So so I'm gonna say this, the move
is a good one because the Lakers. The Lakers need a coach that has
some practicality. It sounds like the Lakers are going younger, especially if they're
gonna draft Lebron Now report Lebron Junior a report came out that said the Lakers
have no interest in drafting Bronny with the first round pick. Yeah, he's
not the first round pick. They know he's gonna be there for a while.
Yeah, they know he's gonna be there for a while for Phoenix.
So so I like to move for the Lakers. I don't. I want
to talk about it, but hold on, I don't know. Does this
coach help Lebron stay? I don't know if this coach helps Lebron stay.
It sounds to me like the Lakers are embracing going younger, rebuilding, or
potentially drafting this coach to help develop Brianni James. I'm just happy he eaten
Cave and hired JJ Reddy because it shows that. I think it helps Lebron
and shows that he's not running the team like everybody thinks he is. So
I don't think it's a bad move. I think that deal is way too
long for a college coach. However, we have to look at the fact
why are you looking like that? We have to look at the fact that
his team won back to back titles. Rick Patino did well when he came
to the NBA. He did Boston was okay, Boston was Okay, what's
the name did well? Nick Nurse? Nick Nurse did well. He didn't
coach college, he was coaching Canada, Lea, but he still did well.
They're happy ingrained there. There is not a college coach who has come
from college to the NBA who has done well. Look it up and everybody's
talking about this is a great move. This is a horrible mode. He'm
I might as well hire JJ Reddick. Well, at least no half these
guys. Are you kidding me? I disagree, man. Billy Donovan,
Billy Donovan had good. He's still isn't great. He's still coaching. He
didn't win the title. Larry Brown. Larry Brown took iverson to his one
thing. Brad Stevens. He did well, right, and you hollering took
Brad Stevens the coach rat hor work. He did well. That's because of
NT win titles. That don't mean they don't do well. The winning is
Lenny Wilkins coach for years and he's the winning and losing his coach in NBA
history. Z Come on, man, come on, man, I just
know I gotta you gotta turn the tie somehow. Hey, Okay, what's
the difference between him and JJ Reddick besides some coaching college, he's actually coached
the team. JJ ain't never suited the coach college. There is the brown
I've never done either. But yes, I know it's different. Okay,
so you talk some somebody who I'm seeing coach. I get it for no
offense, phenomenal for college level. That's number one. Number two, I
get it. He gets these guys to buy in. I understand that too.
But you are talking about pro athletes who mostly likely make more money than
you, and if they don't want to listen, they will take the They
take the fine and keep it moving. These college kids still depend on their
coach Dan who well, let's not get disrespectful and going back to back.
When you come to the NBA is day and who is little damn who it
is a little at least JJ ready come in, like all right, j
J, what youre talking about, I'll give you a chance. What you're
talking about, let's leave do what you're talking about a chance. He ain't
done nothing. But on top of that, you know who coming up is
silently who's former coach of Villanova? I don't even think I can't think of
his name, But he's won some championship. He was there when Bronson and
Hart and the other the white boy from the Knicks, he was there when
they was there. I'm like, are y'all kicking me with this list?
On top of that, I was gonna put this out there, the Lakers
coaching job altogether, you got two years to win a championship or they will
fire you. They will take the l So why would you You have it
pretty good in Yukon. Now I get it. Then I with n I
L deals. The n C Double A is a different The landscape is totally
different. I understand that. But for him to hire a a college coach
who has never been in the pros, it's just it's just mine going mind
blowing to me. Please, what's up for you? How many times is
the NBA supposed to recycle and cycle through these old ass coaches. You've been
there for a long time. Come on, that won't adapt to the new
battle. Yep, Yet, you got as much as we we have,
like coaches that know the current players. In about seven years, most of
the NBA is going to look different because they're going to be coming from college.
I understand. I know we got but we all also got to refresh
our coaches too. Man, we can't keep having these old, stubborn coaches
who want to keep playing the same type of way. What I said,
like, how many I've been on you know what I understand that I understand
that we have a vast variety of assistant coaches, coaches been to the G
League, coaches who can who've actually dealt with pro athletes, but to bring
that, but they may not have the leadership that's needed to wrangle everybody together.
We literally got here with which team was that where they lost the locker
room within twenty games within twenty games, And that's because he did not have
that dog in him to be a leader to command his team. You he's
been at Yukon for a minute. He knows how to run an organization from
the boss level. A real quick, Tom, real quick. I see
what you're saying. But in college you are the GM, the coach,
the front office, you are everything. You're right, but when you want
someone who has that expertise behind the scenes, because that means now you have
the ability to be able to talk to owners, GMS and players, so
you know how to be that middle man that can get this whole organization on
the same play, on the same page without having to give extra money.
No, no, just because you're a good commentator doesn't mean you're gonna be
a good coach. Is this the only reason you didn't want it? To
have it? Because him and Lebron James is like this? But it's like
Hiary Keys get it. Kesey didn't want it, and he no, I
hired Keysey. He'll show up to work. Okay, Okay, Kesey will
show up to work. No, not working for Andre Douglass. Get a
job. I get my job, though he's gonna play that. Listen you,
I'm all about my coins and reputation, a reputation. You're gonna remember
this brother, now, my fair brother over here to the red You still
where You still wann't hire him? When I get there? You still wasn't
hiring up first day. Kesey didn't want JJ and he's the biggest Laker fan
out of all of I never wanted J. Okay, let me ask you.
You want JJ, but you want this college coach? Who let me
ask you a question? All right, what's up? Why would you hire
J about j T? You would make you say you know what, I
want to give you this to me, to me, to me, if
you're gonna hire, you're gonna if you're gonna do go the route of fresh
face, fresh eyes to look at this situation. I want somebody who is
not only JJ is his he's an analyst. And when you when you're an
analyst nowadays, you have to have some type of insight, not in insight
on the game. And I feel like JJ Redding had a very good insight
on the game. Now I will say him being best buddies with Lebron enough
close enough to have a podcast. Did that's a conflict. It looks it
doesn't look good. The optics look bad. But I feel like somebody who
has played pro basketball and if you're a fresh look this is that's the route
you want to go. But my thing is, if it was any just
running the mile college team, then I would stand behind what you're saying.
We're talking about, yu Kay, you kind of has produced enough quality NBA
players that we trust the program. And to me, you kind of like
number four behind schools like North Carolina Duke in there. So I believe,
like I would believe that, Okay, here's this guy we need a new
fresh face. We need somebody to look at the NBA differently because we done
ran through all these used up coaches already, you know what I'm saying,
So all of them are setting their old ways. I want someone new who
also knows how to talk to my front office, because that's this is important.
A lot of these coaches get fired because they they ain't got the trust
of the front office or the support of the support everything that you come in,
you sit down, this is the expectations we want here, plus a
ring in one of the most lucrative markets. What can you do for me?
With that being said, With that being saying to one real quick,
let's say eight year deal. Will get me that eight year deal? Eight
year deal? He's there all eight, because you're right, you have to
you have to have patience. The Lakers do not have deal. I give
them six because you gotta give them two to get you. We remember,
they don't get rid of coaches quickly for eight year deal. They're rid of
them for four year deal. Three year deal. I'll give you that.
So but to me, it sounds like the Lakers are going deeper in their
embracing a rebuild. And you if you're going to draft younger players like little
bronni uh any bitty guards like he said, and in some of their other
younger town guards go ahead that he said. That's not what I said.
You always going to say that lady point guard or whatever he's going we have
a show called any Bitty point Guard? Go ahead. I guess we do
it because because you were crazy. I know I said it, but I
harm bronis in the game, so I mean, you know, I like
this for the Lakers. I think it's a good move. And here's the
thing to remember to Lebron has always shown great respect for a number of college
coaches. If Bron could have picked, he probably would have picked old boy
from North Carolina if he was still interested in coaching. And the reason,
uh from Duke not Duke. No, he would have picked uh dude from
n C. He was really close. But uh, I know Johnson,
the old coach for who North Carolina. I know you're not talking about coach
K because that's Duke Coach K. Obviously that was Lebron's coach in US.
But coach K is too old. I think it's uh, that's what I
wouldn't say. That's uh The old U n C coach was Williams coach Williams
he Lebron was a big Roy Williams fan. He's coach k they're both oldest.
What I'm saying is what I'm saying is Lebron was close to them,
So I think this college coach thing, it might actually be what Lebron needs
for this. Okay, well hold up, Tom, I'm sorry who else
they gonna get? You're sitting here huffing and puffing, like why you're giving
who you gonna get? There really was some type of people do JJ.
The JJ thing was just funny to me. The JJ thing was funny.
Did I did I want JJ? Of course I don't. I don't care
who they get. I thought it was hilarious. The JJ thing was just
hilarious to me. My thing is the the whole coach, the whole college
coach thing is that number one, there's never been a successful college coach.
Brad Stevens is the exception, but it took him a long time and he
had the backing of Billy Donovan is a very successful NBA coach. What are
you talking about, Bro? He has over his winning percentage is what is
neck fifty. No, hold on, then on top of that, you
know who he had on that roster, he's still ot to coach him who
he had on that roster? You can't. And I'm just saying, like,
don't don't see her like I'm watching this like who they're trying to hire,
like I'm literally sitting here like Larry Brown was a successful coach, winning,
winning, Yes he did come from college, Yes he did. Bro
His college record was two hundred and sixty two and one hundred. A percentage
I'm about to tell you his winning percentage in college was point seventy two four.
His NBA career was above five hundred. Are you kidding me? R?
Broa whoa whoa, whoa whoa before he then he coached Lebron James most
of those times. No, he did, Larry Brown, and I coached
Lebron James. He coached Alan I I'm sorry. He was on Denver and
uh he coached the Denver Nuggets and he coached the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
And he did. He took he took the he took bro I said,
no, let me finish. No, hold up, hold up, Larry
Brown was the heckut Larry Brown. Think about Mike Brown. I thought you
about Mike Brown. My filege Larry Brown took Alan Iverson to the final.
Hold on Mike Larry Brown. He took Alan Iverson to the finals. He
took Indiana. He coached that. He took the Detroit Pistons to the finals
and won the game. Howkying bro His record was one thousand and ninety eight
in nine hundred at the end of his career. Yeah, in total,
what I'm saying is you don't have these stats. I'm talking about a college
coach coming into the NBA has not done very well. Now, over the
years, five over the years, gave you five over the years. Over
the years, they have eventually gotten good. Billy Donovan's record, he's above
five hundred. Brad Stevens is above five hundred. Rick Patino is slightly below
five hundred. Okay, Fred Horborg is slightly under fire. But we're talking
about the Lakers here, who expect to be in the NBA finals every single
year. But coaching is sixty, players is forty. It's not just on
the he can't get out there and suit up. He can run plays.
He could give you a mentality. You said all it is, But you
did you talk about Monty Williams. They talking about, Oh, that's too
much money they paid him. But Monty is to Tone's point until Marquis's point
is their recycle coaches. Their recycle coaches at the end of the tire recycle
coaches. Right at the end of the day, it's a new day,
new year, that tried something different. You didn't went with all of the
old players. You didn't went with all of the old coaches. What do
you do now? Nothing has got you a championship. You gotta move,
you gotta move, and then they win the championship. Who's the coach when
they want the championship? Luke Walter the Lakers? No, uh, dude,
that just got fired from Phoenix. A KD got fired. Frank Yeah,
yeah, some good one exactly. You're but the Lakers weren't gonna The
Lakers fired him though they weren't gonna hire him again. You or they turned
a new key, got to do something different. These are with the Lakers.
They got two three years to win. Come on, two three years
next topeg please, we'll move on. During the press conference, the Dallas
Mavericks coach Jason kidds stated Jalen Brown was is the best player on the Celtics
team. Jason Tatum responded to this comment, saying, this is a ploy
to divide the team, divide the locker room. Is Jalen Brown or Jason
Tatum the reason why the Bosses does win the ANBA Championship. I'm gonna let
Kesy go first because you and I had a long kind of back and forth
fare and didn't see. But before kes goes, I just want to say
something really quickly. In the twenty twenty four playoffs, Jason Tatum has averaged
twenty five point three points, ten point four rebounds, five point nine assists.
Jalen Brown has averaged twenty four point eight points, six point one rebounds,
two point six assists and the same amount of games played in the twenty
twenty four playoffs. Has nothing to do with action cat Jason Kidd cap key,
I think he has a point, but continue, I'm gonna say neither,
neither. It has to be one. But continue. You So you're
asking me who team is it? Right? Yes and no? But I'm
asking more of who is If you're gonna who is the best player on this
team? So that means, because that means who team it is? Then?
Right? Oh yeah and some yes, who's standing on it? Anthony
Davis is the best player on the Lakers, right is Lebron? Yeah?
Okay, never mind, it didn't work. Okay. The best players so
far on Boston to me has been Derek White. He'd been the most consistent.
I don't know what to say that. I mean, you know who
your superstars are. I get it. But this playoff run, the best
player that's been on that team has been Derek White, the most consistent player
White. It has yes, yes and no. They I just gave you
the okay, what you just gave me what I just gave you the top
two players on Boston right now according to stats, and Derek White is not
one, and that the season was at the playoffs. The playoffs, I
will give you, Jason Kidds said, Jayalen Brown is the best player on
the Celtics right now. We're talking about playoffs. To me, I see
your point. You get out of that if you watch the games, if
you watch the playoffs. He didn't say both. He wasn't. Actually both
of them have been tribu don't have dance. I'm asking you a question.
He went the opposite of the way and said, Derek White, he said,
can I say I should see because because to me, neither one of
them has been born to the caliber of money that they're getting paid. If
you asked me to be neither one of them has given me the caliber player
that that owns that team. Really, they played, they've been playing mediocre.
Their their supporting cast is billing the ass out, okay, whether you
want to admit it or not. And then Porzingis came and saved them in
game one. He saved them. He didn't save them. They didn't need
to be saved. They destroyed Dallas without that, without that performance that he
puts on it, without that performing he put on in the first half,
well he had fourteen in the first half, fifteen in the first half.
They don't win that game. Razingi's changed that because but he also made he
made it difficult for Dallas because Dallas didn't have anybody to guard him. He
was too quick for the bigs and he was and he was too big,
too big for the small other players. So he was taking advantage of that.
That's how they got the league. And once they got the leader,
all they have to do is maintain it that Jaylen browning in them. They
just followed the suit. They didn't really do anything. Derek White was hitting
big shots to start the game. Drew Holliday hit big shots to start the
game. Tatum and Brown don't come around until the role players start doing what
they do. And that's why I don't know who is a leader. And
they've been having this issuest since they've been there. It was Marcus Smart at
first, but now it looks like Derek White is their leader. They hard
and sol of their team because without Derek White do they get those ws they
got because Derek White has some pretty good performances this year. But here's why
what you're saying is good but irrelevant because Jason Kidds said the best player on
Boston is But I don't want to give them the best player because they're not
playing the best players. You know, the hard park. They agree with
it, you did. He shouldn't have said that. He should have got
quiet. I know. I think, I think I see the same thing.
Drew was not wrong. He's like, he's not wrong. I see
the same thing that Drew was saying Game one to me, Jaylen Brown won
that game for them. Jaylen Brown, not porzingis not Jason Tatum, Jason
Payton at eight points a half, and I think he scored the rest of
his second half for most of that they once they cut it to eight,
Jason Tatum, it was more Jaylen Brown. Though he's doing it on both
ends of the court. I think that's why Jason Kidds said that he's doing
it on both ends of the court. Now, I see what you're saying
about the whole Derek White thing, but I feel like Jaylen Brown is really
feeling the moment, Like I'm not forna losing the final game. I'm not
for this happen again because when he when he played Golden State, he got
overwhelmed real quick and it was just it just got nasty from there. And
Jason Tatum to me, to me, even Joe Jason tam was like,
oh, he's trying to divide the locker room up. This locker room was
already already divided. But it was one of those things where, uh,
I just got word that Luke's good to go for tonight's game. Yeah he
did. Actually, there was no alpha. So mister Stevens agreed agreed.
That's the problem that the Celtics have always Because we talked about this in our
run. Who's a batsman and who's Jay Brown? Turn it into batman?
Jalen Brown is turned into batman. But the point that they were making is
Jason Tatum's responds, Jason kidd Is just Jason kidd Is is kind of is
kind of poking. He's poking. He's poking a bear, and he does
whatever he can to try to win. Remember the whole hit me so he
can drop his Yeah, that's all he doing. He's trying to stir with
him so that Dallas can come in and have ahead Taytim have thirty tonight.
It didn't work out well, but I see what he's doing. But looking
at Boston squad, the fact that you said, Derek White, I'm saying
Jaylen Brown is becoming batman on his team, saying I'm gonna say this,
I like them both, but Jalen I still think he's overpaid. But Jayleen
Brown is showing us that a y'all snubbing me and all this stuff, and
I'm gonna show y'all that I'm gonna put this team off and pay them.
Brown is the more dominant one. Tatum just sits back too much for me,
man, And he's too passive. He's too passive, and hees talented.
Be the alphat stand on something, be something. But I think Jason
Tatum realizes I can't just go out here and score fifty points a week gonna
win the game. But you gotta be dominant. There's nothing dominant about him.
Let's just color what it is. He's like skin. Anytime light skinned
brother come through, hew, I sit your soft all right? Whatever?
Man, I guess even when he duncked on Lebron's rookie year, did you
really remember that? I do? You remember that? I do? But
wasn't nastier than Scottie Pippins when he dunked on Patrick Ewan the Scotty's That is
the greatest dunk of all time, you know what I'm saying. It was
back of all time. And he bumped them bron Lebrowns like skin, you
know what I'm saying. So remember he got geeked like a Steph Curry exactly.
Steph ain't gonna dunk on nobody, though, exactly when Lebron blocked the
shot, and I canna repeat what he le Bron said, but little beat
it. But you know, but yeah, at the end of the day,
it's to me, Jaylen Brown is the best player, agreed, But
to me, who's been playing the best for them in this playoffs has been
Derek White. To me, I think we get them to this point,
but to get them where they at its Derek White or for play good too,
he did, I think it's injured? What real quick? Real quick?
I don't know if I don't know if we talked about that this year.
I don't know if we talked about this this year. Is the Boston
subjects of Superteam? I don't think so we talked about it because I don't
have Perzingas as that super player that he once was. I don't have Jaylen
Brown as a superstar. I have him as up and coming, up and
coming. Okay, I think the only superstar I really have with Jason Tatum
now Brown is becoming one. Boston's not a super team. They're a well
rounded team, That's what I say. I don't think they're a super team.
Before KD was Golden State of Superteam. Yes, before absolutely, then
Boston is the same thing. But so here's the thing. Golden no,
let me take it back. Golden State was a not a super team because
they were they were drafted. Boston is not a superteam. Bostonn Brown was
drafted, Jason Tatum was drafted, and Persingas was signed and free agency.
HM so and per Zingis. Let's be honest, we we caught Colin and
Anthony Davis or Zingis is a is A is A is a blink away from
a broken something too. He is a He played all that energy, all
that hard energy to be probably question Boston played that very smart. Well,
yeah, they played in the finals. They didn't. They didn't need to.
They didn't need to because they knew they could get back to the finals
in the East. Especially once they knew Joel and b was hurt and they
knew Giannis was hurt. They didn't have anybody else to contend to, to
contend with, I mean, and that's why they was able to set Prezingers
down and let him heal. And then now they're bringing him back. Mm
hmmm. I think he's gonna come back like that, But I agree.
He didn't expect him to come back playing like that. They expected him to
come playing off. But presinking has probably been practicing with them every day.
Yeah, I mean he has, He's just he just hasn't been. It's
interesting because a lot of people have the same kind of injury that he had.
He just has more. He had more time to get right. This
is not on the agenda, but I want to talk about this before Bucks
talk, Tony want to pop the picture of the us A women's team drafted.
Uh roster has been put out. They've been They put out the roster.
Shout out to the ninety four feet podcast for integrating some w n b
A stuff in here. I gotta give us some credit for that because we've
been just basketball men's for years and occasionally some NFL, but we've integrated some
w n b A. Let's start a shout out. Shout out that number
one, but number two. Let's cut the crap here, Kaylyn Clark effect
is real. Okay, let's just call it what it is. That's all
I'm saying. You don't like Ark effect is real? Now, going back
to this roster, speaking of that, Uh, this is a team USA
women's basketball and people were upset. I'm not even gonna go with these names
because I'm not the best name person. If either one of y'all want to
go over. This is the time, bro. I don't know half these
players. So I know half of them, I just don't know the name.
I just not will with the name. Did make it? Nope?
No, So but let's let's set from here. Yeah, from the USA,
Well she played here. I'm just asking because I didn't know, said,
I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. That's the flub. Part of your nationality. Can let
you play wherever you want? Know, she was supposed to make the roster.
They she just got snubbed. Yeah, I just want your reaction.
So, looking at this USA basketball roster, given that Caitlin is not on
it, given that she's not on it, I don't think it's a snub.
I mean, you gotta earn that stuff, right, Did she earn
it? She's only played what ten games? But that's the whole That's the
whole conversation that I think thirty years ago ahead, that's the whole conversation.
I think that a lot of people are not properly having They're thinking that the
Caitlyn Clark effect works for everything, and they tend to forget to the Olympic.
You have to try out for that. You have to earn that,
you know, because every time the Kaitlyn Krk gets left out of something,
and like, is this the right business move for women's basketball? And that's
what I'm asking you, is this the right business move for women's basketball?
Because yes, I got Kaitland Clark gets on this team. Guess what millions,
maybe hundreds of thousands of girls are buying us a women's basketball jerseys.
Okay, hold on, that is a good point, but let's not city
an act like Roja. Wilson ain't on this list? What the best player
in their league? Right? Because I know I know Ton who is?
How does wasn't playing for? Who does Wilson play for? Oh? I
have no idea who played for the Fever? Who play for? She did
play for the Fever? I know who does what'son play for? No?
She plays for the Las Vegas Aces. Well, you know I don't want
my point is again, but taking consideration, you at this moment only know
where because she just got there, that Clark, because of the policity she
got, she should be there. Just here here's the thing, or you
I think you here, here's the thing. Where I want the world to
give a con They ain't gonna say the world. Here's the thing I want
the U. S A To get a handle on. Okay, the Olympics
is a world thing. They don't give a damn about who comes from what
country or what. They're not watching the Olympics to see some somewhat popular player
from the United States. They're there to see who is going to win gold.
You put Caitlyn Clark on a team full of women who bust they ask
to get there, and you're there simply because of popularity, and you think
that that team is not gonna fold. We are not playing for a regular
championship that you can get every season. We are playing for mother fucking gold.
But I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. You're
saying gold. I don't get you have not proven anything to me you need
to be on I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this right now. It's one
person on that roster that probably they gotta get approval from. Diana Tarassi.
She has multiple gold medals for the USA team that she's not. I didn't
have to look it up. I'm not even looking at it ever. Ever,
everybody knows who Diana Tarassei is. If you don't know who Diana Tarassi
is in I know, I know she owed, she owed, and she's
still that business as you just she just put a rique out. Yeah,
she dropped thirty eight. The Olympic is a completely difficult bro If you can't
handle the w n b A, this world so tony. You're just saying
this Cleveland clarkfigures just in the US, it is. It's not it's not
it's not not a world. I'm ain't nobody in Barcelona buying the Caitlan Clark
jersey. How do we know if we don't put it out there? You
know how, I don't know because Barcelona has their own women team that they
support. You gotta remember the women's ball overseas before the w n b A
became something worth ball than for so women basketball world wide is well brit that
is where That's where I was gonna grow. That's where the controversy with Caitlyn
Clark really came into play. They letting her go overseas, that is that
is where the controversy came in to play at because Britney Grinder got added.
But Caitlyn Clark got snugged in Russia. No name another center in that league
better than her, And that is why I am not against her being there
all the things. All we have to do is tell Britney stops smoking with
you need what's that one girl? But the going true? No. Look,
she just came from prison. She can't have none on the plane no
more, but she can have it watched there. I was too close,
bro, gonta get you a bag at and the blood and you'll be good.
You know what I get with your I get where you're coming from.
I just found that I did see this. I thought this was interesting because
I just feel like, who was that Thomas? And Thomas is basically saying
what I'm saying that t K. What's good, bro? She did get
snuff. I think she's leading the league in points and right under Wilson her.
What's the kind back? T K? Who's been playing terrible? Brittany
or Caitlin can't stop Caleb? She This is what I say about having a
rookie. She's having a rookie season. That's what she is. I we
thought she was gonna people thought she was gonna come into the league dominating and
what's that girl named Diana Torissa? So she said all right, okay,
okay. When they talked about her to Kaitlyn Clark, she was like,
she's gonna come into the league doing this and this. She was like,
yeah, okay, don't get it twisted. We we we go hard in
the w n B A now and they and she has been proven right.
They go hard in the w n B A real hard. I'll give you
the next Olympics Caitlin will definitely be on the rocks next. This is not
this is not her year. Not if she don't have a good year,
got four years to get ready. I told somebody, I told somebody to
a year. But I told somebody the w n B A is very cutthrow.
They will they know, they will cut a player if you are fighting
for them. But here's the thing. The number no money. There's no
money. They getting no money out of this. You get sponsorship, get
sponsorships, you get some bragging right here and stuff like that. How many
people do you know got a gold medal? Yes, Calo thinks they're rings.
Oh yes, what you hold onto something? But I don't know.
To me, To me, it was just a little bit of bad business.
But I see where you're coming from, Tom, I see where you're
coming from. To me, it's just a little bad business. Not really.
You have to remember the Olympic team. They play together for years.
They do. They played together for years, and I don't think when I
really think about it, I don't even think she No, she's not part
of that. But they had all they had like a college. No,
they have a three on three. That's one of the new things in the
Olympics this year. She didn't make that roster. They even put her on
that because you gotta remember your Olympic team. But they put in brink old
girl from uh the transfer from l s U. I forgot her name,
and they put up so so as knocking four feet is adding w NBA,
we will get better because again we bought it. It's forty bucks. We've
been watching it. We were just watching the game behind y'all. Look.
I support the ladies, but it's very frustrating. I'm not gonna hold job.
I just turn on a new sport for the first time hood Milwaukee.
A w NBA team should Is there enough talent here, Keith, You're you're
in the community. Is there enough talent here that Milwaukee could ben No,
we don't have the money for it. Let's start there. We don't have
the money for We barely have the arena for it. Market. I mean
we can play at the same word. I mean they can they put the
visor for the Panthers ain't doing nothing. Yeah, but I just don't think
the city is markeable enough for that because it's already a hard market as it
is, and it comes but to come to but Toronto that's Canada International international
still, but like to come to Milwaukee, a small town like Milwaukee and
think it's going to be popular. And so you also got to remember the
the franchise has to eat the first four years because they're not going to make
immediate money off of w n B a team we can't afford to eat.
We still got coaches we pay and we got coaches, I'm saying, and
we could thank you for that. And you know what, real quick star
blaming on him. No, No, let's talk about this. I don't
want to talk about this, but talk about when Lakers get fired, who
do they blame coaching fire? They blame Lebron When when k D get coaches
fired, who do we blame KD when the Bucks get coaches fired. It's
you. No, no, no, no, no, We're not doing
that. You're not doing that. Okay, what's good, homie, Thanks
for listening. The bro spend a minute real quick not blaming him. Man,
we're gonna go to Bucks talk. And before we popped this clip,
he playing for Is he playing for Greek? Yes? Yes, sold because
he has that he has dual citizenship. He could do that. No,
no, hold on, second, holdore, let me set it up,
set it up, let me set it up. Brothers not his brother's not
playing because he's uh, he's tour a c L. So Jannis has decided
to play for the Greek team for the US I mean for the Olympics.
He's probably decided to play for the Greek team. Dre was pretty upset about
this. I don't Finally, I didn't think it was a big deal.
Let's go ahead, and uh, Dre, you want to go ahead,
I'll leave it because we're already in an hour and thirty three minutes. It
is probably one of the longer, but it's a good episode, as we
always do. My problem with this is all of a sudden, Okay,
Giannis is at an age where he is getting non contact injuries. Concern number
one. You just sat out all of the playoffs. Concern number two in
the first round, and now we three rounds later, he still shot out
the playoffs. Don't even they don't even go to training for that for another
three or four weeks probably, I mean, because you don't want it to
be a no no, no no no, Let me finish, Let me
finish. But he know he is playing, he is playing. He might
he just might be a face just to make it think bad like this.
I said, he might just be a face to be out there. My
problem with him playing is you use the summer to get fully healthy, and
you work out for the team that pays you sixty million dollars this year.
I feel you. You don't go play. I'm sorry, I'm alma stuff.
You don't go play for a team that plays you nothing when we're over
here trying to make sure your body can last the next three or four years
ago. I don't like you are talking from a Bucks fan perspective, and
I respect you for this season ticket holder. My bad a very expensive one,
so I understand your concern. But one the Olympics only come around every
four years. Two that is his hole. That is like if an NBA
player who's from Milwaukee has an opportunity to come back and just do a quick
summer league game, we gonna be mad he don't come home more than we're
gonna love him being home. Three it's great. If there's anything he owes
that he owes them, there would be no every summer. Three. Four.
You said he needs to work out, right, you don't think balling
in the Olympics is working out, not safely. Get your butt here to
do with some training thing about you know what's gonna you know what's gonna happen
with him being playing for Greek. We're gonna get that explosives back for him
to get injured in October. Don't get no dog back in him. All
we know he go there and eat the Greek yogurt and get healthy and don't
have another injury. Let that man have his moments. The Olympics only comes
around every four he kept playing four years, could be from and I'm going
to go back to Nigerian ball for them. I'm interested to see what do
you not like it? What do you what do you think about this?
I'm fine with it. I mean, it is what it is at this
point? Can we keep getting upset at people making choices that they want to
make? Is real? But I think we're not going to play for the
Big Three And he might not even play hard. It might be just like
some cardio. When have you known? Because everybody, because we all know
Greece is not gonna win, we all know that. Think about it.
In his hometown, he's just working out. You might as well go and
play. Why wouldn't you It wouldn't make sense. Okay, if it was
you, you would be playing. No, I wouldn't you feel you are?
Casey? Remember how upset we were when Drew Holiday played some years ago.
We're like, no, you don't need to play exactly him and Middleton,
And now what happened when Milton came back. The knees ain't been the
same them, knees ain't been the same since hard all that summer for the
Actually, actually him and Drew didn't even play a lot that summer. But
you're practicing every day. So what you have to you're NBA player just told
you're missing the point. The point is you don't want to play for another
competitive sport. That impacts your body was just hurt. So I'm going to
say this, only the first team I want to see him play for is
the Bucks, not gree Now here's here's my thing, here's my thing.
I'm kind of let's mark this on the calendar. By the way, this
is June ninth at six. Low key, low key. I kind of
agree with you, thank you. Now. The only reason I'm doing that
is because Paul George broke his leg in the Olympics. He was out for
a while and he hasn't been the same for a while. He just kind
of getting back going accents doing too much, but was always that was a
freak of you. Very true. Yeah I get that, but like a
couple of things. One that was a freak accident, but it can't happen
again. Number two, Yannis goes hard every time you went to the preseason
game. Do you remember what we said to each other? Why is he
going so hard? Why is he remember that? Why is he trying to
go for forty in a preseason game? My thing is this, My thing
is this is three if Yannis were two, because usually he don't. You're
right every four years. But my thing is you just came from an injury
that could have been a lot worse. So it's not like you sprained the
anchor or strain the hand me in so you're like, I'm sitting down for
the rest of the season. No, this is an injury that was like
you could have tore your achilles and then you'd have been out almost all of
next year. So my thing is, Yannis, if you're gonna play cool
but not, don't don't go. Don't go super hard. Don't go super
hard. Yanis trying to relax. Just kind of keep in mind, I'm
not gonna go from an angle of it. We pay you because you know
that's where Drake coming from, and you know his season. I'm actually going
season. His season. Tickets value go down if Gannis is out for the
year. Sorry, paid for it. Don't nor don't Okay, don't you
want to go to the game. I want to go to Superstar. But
if you look, even if you look at it from that, look at
all the new eyes that change from him playing in the Olympics. So your
tickets to still have value, don't fell You'll be fine. Take down.
Uh plopped the last clip right quick? Tom? Yeah? Stop when you
got the Milwaukee who the players is going to fat first. If Michael Red
wasn't hurt, you still be I don't know, maybe no, you would
not come the way it was going at all. No one about I came
in making the playoffs. That's numb one option. I don't know anybody else
on this couse that you played well. Absolutely you benefited from Michael Red being
hurt. Don't do that because the other niggas wasn't getting He wasn't there listening
to y'all. Niggas listen, y'all, niggas listen just to respond. You're
yelling, y'all listening, y'all, y'all listen, just to respond. And
we having a heating conversations like we do any words, they just be letting
them that that really is that's because he's not listening. Like he said,
you're listening to respond, not to listen. We do that a lot too.
But my thing is, what are you? What is your Oh?
So now we're pointing that that we are victims of this, Like, come
on, we're all suspects of this. I just said that, I said,
especially you though. Yeah, he won't point that ship. Okay,
I said, we all do this. We all do it. And I
said, yeah, and especially you, and then he goes, I was
being sarcastic, but here he comes. He wanted that point in him.
Don't exactly what's what do you mean? See, we know you're an attagonist,
You're an ultimate attagonist. You know that. That's why the show started
off. I did, what do you think he's Lebron? I'm silly,
You're you're who you said You're silly, So I said, I'm silly.
He's Captain Lebron. He's right, we know our roles. He's been Captain
Curry. Today he is taped to your boy. You are very inappropriate.
Okay, that's not inappropriate. But you just flicked me off, like four
times, flicking off. But but what's the end? What is the what
do you think about? Don't think the laser servesy work laser these Uh.
The question was put up, is Michael is Brandon Jennings the number one option?
If Michael Red didn't get hurt. I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna
give Brandon Jennings his flowers. Brandon Jennings is the reason I became a season
ticket holder again in the first place. That's the reason we all did.
Remember, they were really cheap. Whenever we bought together, they were really
cheap. That's it. No, no, no, we were in the
fourth row. Brandon Jennings had dropped that double nickel game, and then we
became season ticket holders. Him and Andrew Bogan were a big part of the
resurrection of the Bucks. We gotta give them their flowers. We did not.
Are you you listening to respond? Just like can I finish? Oh?
Now you think you oh? Now you got a magic punch line?
Because I've seen because I've seen this before, I've watched this show every night.
I'm not listening to respond. I'm not. But you can't say I'm
listening to respond because I'm a said what I'm about to get to responded,
No, but I'm preference. He asked me a question. Can't but think
about it before you response. Think about it before you response, Think about
what he's saying. If Michael Red doesn't get it hurt, does Brandon have
the green light? No, he doesn't. I was getting to that.
I was just giving him his flowers case you wouldn't let me finish. Brandon
Jenny's help resurrect Milwaukee basketball. True or false? No, I'll give you
some of the most exciting moments in basketball during that time was Brandon Jennings,
Michael Red if he doesn't get hurt, Michael Red might be Klay Thompson real
talk, if he doesn't get hurt. Are you saying both of these guys
can come to I don't know if they can come together and be like a
steph. I think they could have. We would never know because we didn't
get to see it. Mike Red was the Bucks number one option, and
we know why because of the contract. The contract they they cashed out on
Michael Red shoot up. They thought they were getting the next Ray Allen.
So yes, they are very correct. Brandon would have been the third option
after Red. The second option would have been Andrew Bogan and got rid of
him. Didn't not at that time. He starts sucking when he broke his
arm. Remember you were there for that. Remember he had that Alcuara fall.
You can hear him screaming when Mark Startamer. I don't think he was
with us. I don't Mark Stottlemyer pushed that man there. We could hear
that scream like I could still almost hear it. M I think that I
think it is true. Don't think Brandon Jens probably was what he got because
he was a rookie and he uh, he wouldn't have got the love he
got if Michael Red had a playball. And the fact that Brandon Jens like,
nope, nope, I was that dude. I was that dude.
I would eventually over the team. Jesus Christ, what tobacco you be smoking?
That's the person you should be absolutely smoking because he is a hat and
he has Oh yeah, and I get it. I get it. You
have to hold your own and get your flowers stuff like that. But I've
always told you he over Remember he overestimated his value. He remember he told
he declared on a national TV show that he wasn't going to re sign with
the Bucks because he was looking at bigger markets and he wanted the max contract.
The Bucks let him walk and Brandon did not ever get another contract that
he wanted. It was one year here, one year. There will go
down in history. That's a dude who beat the loophole and that's it.
That is all he will be known for. Remember he went overseas. He
went overseas. Remember they had to Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did
beat the loophole all he will be known for. That's crazy, some good
education. I don't think he really had any big contracts. He never did
he. I think he signed a three year deal with Dallas. You know
he had rap. He left Milwaukee. Detroit signed him for a big deal
Detroit. It wasn't big, it was it was it was it was less
than what we were gonna offer. Yes, the Milwaukee market ass like,
I don't want to be here, and they think they can go elsewhere and
get better, and come to find out, Grass is not greener. In
fact, I think he was cut for from the Troy when it was he
signed a three year contract for twenty five million dollars and that was that was
even less see what the Bucks were going off for him. But you know
it's I quiet about that. As much as he hated it when he was
here, he loves Milwaukee now, Oh, because we the only thing that
can kind of give him. We don't think they can't give him flowers.
You know what the crazy party is though. I typed in Brandon Jenny's contracts
and the only results I got was Jennings Asphalt Construction, Jennings Construction, jam
Breemen. He didn't even show his contracts. Look, yeah, you got
you got a whole name type him. He ain't staff. That don't make
no sense, ain't who So Brandon Jennings in his career he's made and ten
years, let's see here in Brendon Jennings' career earnings, he didn't do too
bad for himself. He's earned forty million dollars in his NBA career, forty
billion dollars and for the little stuff he did. But then god it at
forty he probably brought a home twenty twenty two, twenty three. Help that.
But you have to also remember he's also was very different time, different
time. But he was also very involved with like graphic design, Like I
didn't know that until I know his his his I don't know if it's his
godfather. But a guy that worked for the clubs was telling us that he
was involved in like graphic designs. Who was He helped design some of the
bucks Uh City merchandise. And I'm sure that comes with money and the other
thing just being in the business. These appearances these players do even for the
club. That stuff ain't free. I bet it ain't. Try to get
on the podcast whatever. Anyways, this has been another episode of ninety four
feet podcast shotter my brother Kesey. There's been another good one. Good people
show them, brother dre Yo, it's been fun. Before we go,
you didn't wrap us up with a real quick game. Two predictions? Who
you got tonight? Ze? They want to do games predictions because we already
did the whole seven. But who tonight? Who you like tonight to win?
Boston or Dallas? I actually like, I ain't gonna hold just branking
me Boston Keys. Who you like tonight? Dallas? I like Boston tonight.
If Boston goes up to well, don't be surprised if they can pull
off the spot. I think they come lose to in Dallas. I think
they come play harder tonight. Yeah, I'm going in twenty eight minutes.
So no, it's been a good one. I appreciate the time with my
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