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Very cool. Okay, cool,
ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

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Your boy be seeking the building.
I'm here my brother Casy. What's good?

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Good people? I'm also what's good? Everybody's your boy, Dre.

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I'm here with my brother Keith.
What's good? Case? What? What's

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good? What's good? Good people? I'm here my brother zeke Ladies and

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gentlemen, cats and god. And
I'm here with my I'm here with my

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half brother. Tone. What's good? Tone? He obviously what water?

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I'm just saying. You cut me
off the script first. You know that.

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You know what I mean. You
know what I mean. He was

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coming back to you. He just
went to meet I was with him first,

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and I was gonna come back to
you. Okay, okay, that's

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all like he I think he back
on this old moscowl days. Break me

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down to y'all level. Just well
to see no day, he knows that

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what to talk about ridiculous Okay,
not in height, but in behavior.

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Okay, we're gonna not in height, We're gonna we're gonna start it off

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with injury report. Yeah, so
Luca is out with some type of chess

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contusion and he has been downgraded from
probable to questionable. Go Celtics, you

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definitely in your line up if you
have any chance of winning. It's very

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true. It's a good thing.
It's a good thing, but he's still

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questionable work Which one is better probable
or questionable? Probable is probably not gonna

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play. Questionable is you're still fifty
fifty years But when they say downgrade is

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from propable questions, So it goes
questionable but probable that you out the game

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time decision to yeah yea yeah,
yeah. So that's good. But the

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fact that he has it, like
you said before, is an issue.

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The fact that they had to,
you know, put it out there,

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it's an issue. We're gonna go
to the shoot around where we talk about

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things going on around the NBA besides
the NBA Finals. Tone, would you

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like to hit the clip talk about
Stephen Curry. Stephan is not a generational

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talent. Generational means you can't mimic
it. You can't mimic Magic Johnson six

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' nine point guard with the vision. No, Kirby was a great basketball

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fans bro, So you wouldn't say
Steph shooting is not. It makes him

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a hard work, hard working Would
you say Kobe was a generational talent,

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he wasn't. Nope, So that
was my god guilt. And then T

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Max said this, he hasn't cracked
my top teen yet. Steph has had

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a phenomenal career. I mean four
championships, two league MVPs, he has

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a final MVP. But if you
go back in his career when a Draymond

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is out of the lineup for the
season, if you look at La Thompson

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has missed the season. To me, if you're that great one of your

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guys are missing, you can't make
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top five or top teen. I
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is that physical attributes play one of
the most vital roles in being a generational

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talent, right because it's not something
that just anyone can possess, whereas the

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hard work is something that anyone can
do. So before we get go in

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on this comment, and you know, I wanted to take that we be

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objective and that you look at what
he said and I take the fandom out

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of it and just really look at
what he just said, be analytical about

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it. Well, first of all
of the three of us, I'm the

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most objective of all of y'all.
Let let let's just start there when I

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cap nothing cap East, when I
was literally god listen, when we were

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literally talking than when we were literally
talking about Yannis and I questioned his basketball

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IQ. Y'all were the fans you
crazy? You crazy? But everybody in

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America has agreed with me that his
i Q even still is questionable. Man,

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when it comes to our favorite players
that aren't the Bucks, I am

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most objective than both of you.
Casey for sure, because Lebron can do

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no wrong. Luca for you,
great white hopet and then then got you

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on his team, that's for sure, because you can not objective. I

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can't be objective with Luca me saying
he can cry a lot just because I'm

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not joining the bandwagon. You could
be crying all the time. That don't

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mean I'm a super fandamn man can't
do no wrong. That's you. When

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it comes to steps of fame,
right now, he's not in the Hall

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of Fame. He shouldn't be.
So let me just let me just only

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not in the Hall of Fame because
the injuries, well, so you really

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want to get technical time top.
It's not about t mac so let's not

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even go there, because I know
how you feel about TMT. He's on

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your lebron starting five. Okay.
He claimed you on his taxes too if

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he could. So we're not gonna
even go down that road. They can't

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tell me how you really feel without
saying it. Hey, so so let

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me just comment. Wait, don't
need them clips again. Hopefully you'll be

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back. Okay. So Gilbert Arenas
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his open I'm not just saying that
because of Steph, because remember he went

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in on Yanni's the same way,
and we came at him the way he

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went in on Yiannis. Gilbert Arenas
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everybody else is happy. So his
opinion is flawed, heavenly flawed anyway.

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Gun toting man Tracy McGray. Tracy
mcgrady's remarks are also very questionable for a

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guy who is most known for scoring
eleven points in what how many minutes?

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Was that? Thirteen points in what
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the biggest highlight of his career.
So to call Steph Kurr. Listen,

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when you think about the term generational, you think about a term that is

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copy catty. Stephan didn't copy cat
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had before Steph Curry were Reggie Miller
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Stephan didn't copy any of them.
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If you look at it now,
you're a coach, what do these players

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want to do now that you're coaching, Casey? What are they doing?

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They're jacking up three pointers from anywhere
on the court. Yes or no,

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let me finish, and I will
let you have Eddie three point line was

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stop it, stop it? Cap
Now you just say cap to him.

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You just say cap to him,
because I see what you're going before you

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go any further. The shots like
Steph Curry is taking, Gilbert was taking

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those shots before him. Agent zero. Remember Agent zero started out not to

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that level as he was. Go
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he's saying that. Gilbert is saying, I was doing those long range shots

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like Steph doing right now. I
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like he was doing on his best
Go back and look on his best day.

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He's not Steph. Knee injuries is
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is what stopped Gilbert Arenas. Okay, Gilbert got fanned for guns. Don't

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give him a way out for injuries, that's cat, But either way go,

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he's that famous that pull up game
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I'm gonna tell you like this.
I'm gonna tell you like this.

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Steph Curry is undoubtedly a generational talent
because all the kids want to be like

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Steph. Okay, all the kids
want to be like All the kids want

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to be like Steph. Steph reinvented
the three point shot. Steph is the

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first player that had the NBA even
talking about a four pointer. Okay,

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then so let me ask you a
four pointer. Let me ask you a

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question. Then, So was James
Harden generational? I would say James Harden

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has generational talent. He absolutely has
generational talent, but he's not a generational

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player. If you want to talk
about generational players, you're thinking about once

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in a lifetime players. So Michael
did he does not contradict everything. He

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just did not contradict that you can
have are you do you have a I

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can't have talent but not be that
way right. So Steph got generational talent,

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but he's not generational. Cap he
cat good. I'm almost done.

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Michael Jordan is generational, Larry Bird
is generational. Magic is generational forward who

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ran the point. Lebron is generational. Steph Curry is one hundred and fifty

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generational. All those comments were just
hated by players who didn't have as good

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of a career as him. For
first of all, before I even go

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ahead and talk about your opinion or
what I think about this comment. And

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I brought this up because I number
one, I knew this was gonna happen.

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You know, you saying generational talent
is him shooting the ball really good?

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What I said, I said,
generational talent? What he is?

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He changed the three point game?
No, that's what I said. It

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popular, He made it popular.
That's not that's not generational talent. That's

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what we're talking about here. We're
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We're talking about generational talent, something
that cannot be duplicated. Records records saying

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I made the most three pointers in
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broken. It wasn't touched for twenty
years. That record can't be broke.

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It wasn't just like hold on just
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Ray Allen Reggi Miller was like,
right, No, Reggie Miller held that

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record. But the point I'm making
is this, when you talk about generational

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talent, this is something that can't
be duplicated. Steph Curry is a hard

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working player that shoots a four or
five hundred shots per practice. So what

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that means is he worked very hard
to get where he was at. He

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did not come into the league as
that guy. Lebron James came into the

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league as that guy. Why because
you've never seen a six six' eight,

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two hundred and fifty pound guy pushing
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block your shot, shoot the jumper, he can do everything. You

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can't duplicate that. Shaquille O'Neill six
seven, three hundred and fifty pounds moving

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like he moving, you can't duplicate
Joker's doing it right now. Joker is

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not doing it right now. Is
a good basketball player, yes, he

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is. Generation He wants to get
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in the league. Time top whoa, whoa. So you're telling me because

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Steph didn't start that way. He's
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time went on makes him generational.
He worked hard? Did he have did

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that? Work hard? He worked? But did he when he started off?

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Where was he at? On a
trading block? And we should have

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took him? He was on trading
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yes, okay. So when you
talk about we're talking about generational talent,

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Shack was traded four times. What's
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trading his attitude. It had nothing
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his body like you can't duplicate Shack. We have yet to see a Shack

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for a reason. We have yet
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Way in America is Steph Curriet generational? No, he he copied Michael.

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He not only did. And I
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Kobe's Brian was another person who worked
hard. He worked extremely hard where he

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got And that's the mamba mentality of
everybody's he talking about, like you hone

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in and and and to think about
it us being a generational talent. And

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that's why I was like, hey
watch it. Listen to what they're saying.

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I can't believe I'm sitting here saying
and then it didn't want to go

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to the tax thing, the t
MAC thing was injuries, just because I

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see where he's coming from, and
didn't blame him for his team not making

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the playoffs. When Captain Kesey always
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didn't had no help. Lebrono make
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The Lakers didn't make the playoffs when
he was hurt season, when he was

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hurt, but he came back.
But he came back and they didn't make

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it. Lebron is so good.
He took what keys be saying to a

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team of bombs to the finals in
an era that's a little different. Come

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on five times, come on five
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top of that, he almost he
almost beat up. He almost be golden.

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Say Warriors without who Kyrie is almost
they got destroyed. They almost better.

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I'll give you this if they had
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the Warriors would of loss. I
can see how objective that is. That's

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or one objective against Curry. Everything
else is we hate. But I just

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I just thought this contration was very
interesting, just because really generational talent and

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being a really good basketball player or
working hard to get in your position,

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it's two different things. If Steph
Curry has never had anybody hold his nuts,

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I found one. I know you
ain't talking about ball, you ain't

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talking you talk about me. You
want Steph Curry Texas? Alright, he

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don't get much because he's in California. But but here's a bottom line.

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I don't like it because to me, you, I'm not bitter. That's

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one thing I'm not. Both of
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of those guys, other than t
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say about his career? Steph Curry
has four championships in the Western Conference.

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The Golden State Warriors built their team
through the draft. KD went and joined

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them, and they still wont two
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and two without. So to say
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pretty and salty, and they want
to without. But to say that you

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can't even get to the playoffs,
and and and not to mention the year

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that they didn't go Steph miss half
that season. I just want Okay,

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I'm just saying both both both well, I'm just saying I'm just saying that

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to put him to put Steph because
I think one of the things about Steph

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is he's a really great guy.
He's not a feeling. He's a really

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great guy. And when you talk
about being let's take away, let's take

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away the phrase generational talent. Let's
just talk about top five, top ten

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all time. You know, Steph's
like my top five. I don't when

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you when you put it in that, I think when the way that team

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AC phrased it and he's talking about, hey, you're the guy, this

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team is on your shoulders, and
you talk about, hey, this is

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on your shoulders. At least get
us to the playoffs. At least get

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into the playoffs. I feel like
he has a point. So four championships

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is not enough just because he missed
the playoffs one one because of k D.

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I'm saying this, and and the
other ones without Draymond. They don't

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win them, but they won them. But he's being penalized because they drafted.

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So then Lebron has been penalized every
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teams, go to the States,
not a super team. When did Lebron

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not have a super team besides them
Clavalier's years, they and what do you

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call him? One leg Willie?
That's what you call curse on b one

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leg Willie Davis, whatever you want
to calls. Steph's not a generational player

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in your No, I can name
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our generational over him. Yeah,
I would love to hear all that thought.

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Don't you say the team or that
thought? Play the next clip to

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Curry belonged in the top ten all
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he probably is eleven. He's not
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being outside of the top ten doesn't
it gate your talent? Like Steph Curry

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is one of the greatest of all
times? You show AI into Steph Curry's

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team? Does he win four championships
and you do all the ship? He

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don't know, he don't alan.
Yes, yes, yes, you said

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as loud as you are as year. No you did not just show me

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a Steph Curry clip with Brandy Jennings
comment, Well, first of all,

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he's on your side. Okay,
I missed it. Replaying clip start over.

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I agree to say, like don't
tell me he's hating up here.

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He really no, he doesn't,
but he probably is. Eleven Like,

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he's not better than Allen iverson to
me, but being outside of the top

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ten doesn't negate your talent, like
Steph Curry is one of the greatest of

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all times. You saw Ai into
Steph Curry's team? Does he win four

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championships? And you do all the
ship? He don't know, he don't,

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Alan I, yes, yes,
yes, you say it loud as

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you are as loud as the year
number. When he's stepped past half court.

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Everybody's guarding umber. Steph Curry,
the dude himself was so dominant that

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it didn't win over and souls.
Do you know what his team looked like?

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Let me let me no, no, no, no, no no

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no. This that was aggressive you, Alan Ivers, I'm going on the

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Golden State Warriors. Is he winning
four championships? Yes? Yes, yes,

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because kill me. This is what
I want you to tell me.

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Think about it like this before you
be objective of what I'm gonna say,

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I have to be objective. Listen, Steph is a score, right,

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He's a shooter. He's a shooter, Alan Iris is or what score neither

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one of them playing, no damn
d facts. So all all the go

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to say Waters needed from Stephan is
him to get buckets. All the goal

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to say Warriors need for Alan Iris
to do is what get buckets? Draymond

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and them do all the dirty work. And you know what's funny. I

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thought it was interesting because Alan Iris
is they're two different kind of how they

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play, like, uh, Steph
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kick at the Draymond top of the
key and Draymond, you know,

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hit some screens and such and such
and such. An he comes around,

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Ali Irison needs the ball in my
hand. Everybody spread out And that's the

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problem that if we had shooters like
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definitely would have got four. So
I don't really taking away taking away

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Kevin at least three. Think about
the wassers he had. I'm glad you

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brought that up, Tyrone Hill,
Aaron m And No he didn't he did.

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He didn't know he did. I'm
looking at it right here. He

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did not. That was in Denver, Iggy did. Giggy played for the

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seventy six to the finals. Are
you talking about his finals of his finals.

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We we're not giving him mercy because
they cheated the Bucks that year,

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so he deserved. We get a
put the paws on us. I'm not

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even gonna lie. I love him, I love the Bucks, but I

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put the pauls on us. The
rest helped him, though, Alan I

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was getting putting, putting in work
on us. He was putting in work,

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but not enough for them to It's
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This some type of stuff you talk
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So al of Iverson, who's went
to the way Wait wait, wait wait

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take scrubs time out to the finals? Out? What else? When is

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Steph ever took some scrubs to the
this is this is for KESI, this

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is for Kes. So Iverson went
to the finals once and he's generational generational

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talent. Yes, so Steph went
to the finals six times. Hold up

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has handles, can cross anybody at
any time multiple times. All time scoring

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leader in three points, Hyatts field
goal percentage in three points. He's not

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generational, but Iverson is because the
finals? Who do you think started the

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crossover? Answer the question? Please? Who made the crossover? Most famous?

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All you can talk about this all
you can talk about. This is

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crosshold. Can you answer the question
what iversent is generational but Steph is not.

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They're both generational talents. I just
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you cleaned up because thats not what
you said. I've been said Steph with

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generational talent, but he's not a
generational player. So so let me just

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respond to to this dis message here. I think he did this on purpose.

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I didn't doing this purpose. This
is what's going on these streets,

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and in my opinion, Steph is
top ten. But why for all the

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reasons I've said on every episode we've
been doing for four years, all the

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time, he's like my number five. Jesus, he's your number five dude,

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Michael Jordan's Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neill, Steph Curry,

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He's I'm not even putting him over
Kobe Bryant. That's okay, But that's

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why this is in the eye of
the beholder. So then how are you

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going to disrespect him? Dispect?
How are you going to disrespect team?

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That's the first CLI clip has nothing
to do with t MAC. This clip

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has nothing to do with you're talking
about Steph. But this but is opinionated

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opinion. We're still talking about Steph
in the still of you Tone Zeke,

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who's a who's a crap starter and
putting out there myself all of our top

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ten will be different and uh and
at the discretion of what we like,

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You like Luca, me and key
Hato. It's okay to like Luca.

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He's a baller. We give him
hiss friars. We say, he cried,

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but do we give him as flowers
barely? Kesey likes Lebron I like

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Steph. Tone for whatever reason has
an obsession with the next right. But

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that's his that's his prerogative, so
that's our prerogative. And why does he

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have to be all that because he
said Steph is not generational, that's his

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progative. We're talking but that's different
though we're not different. The opinion of

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the question was is Steph generational?
That was the question. The question for

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this is Steph top ten? I
said yes, you said no, they're

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different for questions Casey related because they're
not the only reason he's not he's not

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in the top thirty said that they're
not. There are generational talents who are

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not in my top ten, like
Larry Bird probably wouldn't be in my top

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team because I never seen him play. Larry Bird is not a generational player,

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but continue, he's a generational shooter, generational player. I think he

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I don't act like Larry Bird didn't
change the game of basketball. He made

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why the pale community is always looking
for their next Larry Bird is the reason

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why Caitlyn Clark is who she is
right now in the eyes of the media.

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I'll take that tone, but I'll
reverse it. Steph Curry is the

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reason why Caitlyn Clark is shooting from
half, which makes him what popular generational

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popular women are popular popular art to
this time, this is my thing.

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We talk about generational talent, where
I see this is where this this is

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going too. But you said James
Harden is James Harden and generational talent?

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I said, is he a generational
generational talent? Just run her players the

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same thing to me, because if
you're talking about, hey, you have

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a generational player, but you're now
generational talent, how can you have one

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without the other. That's like saying
I like mac and cheese, but I

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don't really like cheese. Like that
can like American cheese and not there.

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That's weird. That's just Noodle's brother. So you like Noodle. But my

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thing is when you talk about this
is go Larry Bird real quick. Larry

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Bird was a left handed three pointed
shooter that nobody has ever seen before.

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Low key, same thing with Steph. But these guys worked really, really

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hard because guess what, there's a
long list of shooters you can you can

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name off the shooter. Shooter,
shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter.

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But my thing is this, when
you talk about generation on talent or a

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generational player ever you want to say
it, name me somebody like Shack.

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I think that's the best Joker no, no time MVP in five years.

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So what okay? What is okay
when you say Joker triple double walking?

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What would what would Joker? Nobody
can hold him on the court? What

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would Joker do if he had the
guard shock? You know how many time

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me Shaq would? I didn't say
he was better than Shaqkes No hold on

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second, No, you about you
talk about Joker? Yes, Joker is.

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He's a good shooter, he's a
good rebounder, he's a good assist

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man, he's a walking triple double. So it's Russell Westbrook a generational talent.

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At one time I probably would say
he was. No, he's not

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tell me one point guard that at
that average triple doubles ever two seasons in

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a row, Oscar okay, And
how long did it take for Russell to

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break that? How long the fifty
year, it took twenty, took a

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fifty twenty years, whatever the case
may be. What I'm saying is this,

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though, we're talking about the body
of shack a seven foot, three

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hundred and fifty pounds moving away.
He moved and he was so dominant that

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nobody can hold him. Joker can't
be contained, no nobody. And then

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on top of that, he's good
statistically even if you double team shocked,

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he's still a dunken. I am
not caught jokers by no means. Rule.

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I know he's a generational talent.
They had a rule named at the

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Shack, the shack attack, the
shack hack a shaft hackha like it is

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general. The My point is the
generational talent. The point of the generational

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talent. There will never be anybody
like this guy, or we're still looking

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for somebody just like this guy to
me jokers. Joker falls in that same

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category as somebody like Steve Nash.
Yeah, somebody is Steve Nash. Kill

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somebody who's Steve Nash? You won
back to back MVPs and he's like,

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oh man, he's a really good
basketball player, but he's not a generational

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talent. Go to a Chicago w
NBA game. Are you crazy? I

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thought she was a fan. I
thought she was a fan. So so

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let me ask you guys, dollar
fan. Yes, okay, never mind

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thirty five dollars leap. Let me
ask you guys this because we haven't done

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it in a while. Here the
question that he said, Steph is not

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even in his top ten. Give
me your top ten all time, all

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time, give me your top ten. It's gonna take some thinking, so

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bear with us. Ninety four feet
let us think. After five, it

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gets a little, it gets a
little cloudy, cloudy, So m Jay,

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hold up, in no order?
Are you doing them in order?

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No order? Okay, I'm gonna
go top ten. No, you have

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to do it in order to make
it count with what they're saying, because

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dude was like, well, Steph
is maybe number eleven. I'm saying,

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you know what I'm saying is if
I if I'm gonna pick my top teen,

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I don't want to put in the
order because then you really got to

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see her and think about it.
But I go Jordan's Okay, I go

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magic. Okay, I'm gonna go
what I'm gonna gonde to mic year loyal

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customers, bro say Jordan's magic,
Kareem Wilt Chamberlain. So let me ask

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you this, Oscar Robertson, before
you keep going, how can you put

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in players that you've never seen play. I've never seen them play in the

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game, and I but I can
also recognize the greatness. I can see

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their highlights, I can see their
their stats, I can see all those

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things. Be like, this player
is phenomenal. See, I don't put

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players that I've never seen play.
Yeah, okay, but that takes away

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That takes away a lot of players, though, because that takes away from

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the Kareems, that takes away from
uh. I canna say barely Jordan,

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but a little bit of barely Jordan. Okay, so you're at eight two

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more. I'm fine, No,
you're okay, go ahead. It's not

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as easy as it looks, is
it. No, it's not. I'm

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gonna go KD. Wow, I'm
gonna go. Can you do yours?

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No? I'm asking, like,
can you? It's ten? Easy for

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you is when I'm asking because he's
thinking. You see his face, Yeah,

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I'm thinking, I got what was? So four more O it's double

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team Jerd. Can you let him
finish the way y'all be cutting each other?

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Please, Terrence, I need you
in the studio, bro report the

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determined Phoenix. I need some back
up here today. I know it's not

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like I said after that that five
or six against it is debatable. So

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I'm gonna go go ahead. That's
seven. I'm gonna go, and I

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hate to I hate to do this
too. Isaiah Thomas. I'm gonna go

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Larry Bird and then I'm gonna go, Man, this is this is kind

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of it gets hard. So the
okay, and I throw joker in there.

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Okay. Top ten of all time. So for me, I'm missing

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some people. I know I am, but I you know, if you,

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if you sitting down and write it, if you if I'm if if

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I told y'all this like two days
ago, you'll probably have a better top

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ten. So I'm gonna go with
kind them all for me and top five

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are in order. Michael Jordan's Lebron
James, Tim Duncan. I forgot Timmy,

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she kill O'Neill. That's four.
I forgot Shack. That's Shack.

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I ain't say she kill O'Neill.
That's five. Now the next five I

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would have to think about the order, but they are in the goat conversation

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for me, uh, Kobe Bryant, Okay, Kevin Durant, Magic Johnson,

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that's eight, right, love him
or hate him? Karl Malone,

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love him or hate him? Malone
about Sir Charles, that's how mean that

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ninth Hakeem elijau Wan. I take
that. You didn't say Steph. I

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said Steph at five. You know, Timmy's my third third. Timmy's my

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00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:37.720
third man. Listen Timmy. The
thing I don't like about I think people

403
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:43.640
overlook they said, they said Tim
Doug. Yeah, I think people overlooked

404
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.519
him because he played in Kobe's era. And I've said it on this podcast.

405
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.200
Why isn't he considered as great as
Kobe? And they have the same

406
00:32:51.240 --> 00:33:00.359
amount of rings, have the same
amount Kobe is that's a great You need

407
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:06.880
fundamental to make flashy stand out and
vice versas. I was just gonna say,

408
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.920
Timmy, tim Many fun to watch, just cut the Crassi is pretty

409
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:14.279
boring, but but he gets it
done. It does gets it done.

410
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.880
People were saying Charles, people were
saying, Charles Barkley, what's the greatest,

411
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.359
and that Timmy came around in that
power for us. I can I

412
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:31.400
can definitely agree to that. But
Kobe is that player that got that generation

413
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:37.480
into basketball. I was just gonna
say, great player during the end one

414
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:42.599
years and he uh that excitement,
all that stuff. Kobe had that and

415
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.039
then suck. He took what we
loved about Jordan's and gave it back to

416
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.680
the street players to make them love
it even more, which is what made

417
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.039
Kobe, in a lot of people's
eyes, seem like a better player for

418
00:33:54.160 --> 00:34:00.240
the game of NBA basketball than Timmy. But behind the scenes, Timmy us

419
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:06.000
that dude who you would build your
creative player in your fantasy person on.

420
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.000
If I had to sit here and
draft the whole entire NBA during that year,

421
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.559
tim would get picked first. Again. But again, Bro, is

422
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.800
it easy for you or is it
hard? It should be pretty straightforward,

423
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.440
Okay, go ahead, this would
be interesting. Are you doing yours in

424
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:28.679
order or no, pretty much?
Okay, this is the order. I

425
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.559
want to hear this. Go ahead, bro number one Lebron James okay,

426
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:42.119
Michael Jordan Okay, Shaquille O'Neal okay. Three, Magic Johnson four, uh,

427
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:52.159
Kobe Bryant by Tim duncan six,
Oh, Julius Irvin seven? Okay,

428
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.559
you know I forgot what's he done? Go ahead, Bro, Scottie

429
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.440
Pippin. I was gonna say I
forgot Scottie in my top teen, top

430
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:12.119
ten, because he's definitely in my
top that's eight Scotty Pippen. My last

431
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:21.400
two would be because I'm torn which
one should be. Nine Scotty probably while

432
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:28.599
he's thinking, Scotty replaces Kevin Durant
on my list. Mm hmm, I'm

433
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.159
gonna say Bird and Dan Bill Russell. That's good. That's a really good

434
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:45.719
list. I've never witnessed them like
that. I mean, watch just ask

435
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:52.559
I've watched videos on them. Doctor
j Blayden in the eighties, late eighties,

436
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.280
eighties, but he and Jordan patterned
his game after him. I was

437
00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:01.679
watching the NBA in the eighties.
How I leave alone? All right?

438
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.079
What wrong with you? Man?
Because it's late eighties? I watched it,

439
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:13.480
gave it. Like the Michael Jordan
six seven. I remember everything I

440
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.400
did at six or seven. Like
I said before, I remember I was

441
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:20.039
at when when Jordan won ninety one
ninety two. But you said in the

442
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.280
eighties, I remember when the Bulls
one game seven. I can remember that.

443
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.519
I remember writing nineteen eighty eight on
my papers. Do you have a

444
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.119
photographic memory, then well, let's
think it. I do. I got

445
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:35.840
a very photographic memory, That's what
I mean. I'm serious, Like I

446
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.679
can really remember writing nineteen eighty eight
on my papers, except for texting your

447
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:44.000
friends back. That's why I said, let's not get crazy, because Kase,

448
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.880
I like your list. Though I
like your list. Never mind,

449
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.239
you probably do look at this phone
like I already told him that. I

450
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:53.800
told him that. So you have
photographed people, but you just Patty,

451
00:36:54.039 --> 00:37:00.880
all right, cool, Yeah,
I'm listening. You said your top ten

452
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:09.480
where's because the video good eleven?
But we didn't even put on the list

453
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.159
that we definitely noticed. I mean, I think I think top ten tells

454
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.039
a lot about what kind of person
you are, or what kind of fan

455
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:23.599
you are. I think that Iverson
for a lot of people was more popular

456
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:31.760
than he was like dominant, dominant. Hold on, man, Let's give

457
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.880
it a minute, because I ain't
get I didn't give you a top ten

458
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:40.159
in my order, but I feel
like a Iverson does on the custle that

459
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:46.880
eleven, ten, ten, eleven, twelve, Like if you go a

460
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:52.039
fifteen, then I'll put because from
eleven to fifteen can be anybody. It

461
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.480
could be, but it just depends
on who you like. Once you get

462
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:00.360
to eleven, it's who you like
the most because you can actually put like

463
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.400
Ray Allen, you can put T
Max, you can put all of them

464
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.719
in that eleven to fifteen, but
bracket based on you'all list, I still

465
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.519
wouldn't put them there either. It
all times it wouldn't because there were some

466
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.800
key names that you guys left off, and those are subjective people based on

467
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.400
where you come, like you're Patrick
Ewings, your Moses Malone, your Reggie

468
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.519
Millers, like these are impact players
for their team in their league. But

469
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.360
the reason why I said subjective is
because like Key said, he didn't watch

470
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.199
them play like that. Then if
you really want to get down and dirty,

471
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.440
we can look at like support staffs
like Dennis Rodman. You know what

472
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:40.400
I'm saying Charles Oakley's you know people
who really did make a big difference who

473
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.960
should look be looked at compared to
like like you say, Draymond's and Ego

474
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:51.039
Dallas based their skills off of people
like that when you're looking at them.

475
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.079
I mean, so even though Iverson
is that player, because I will always

476
00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.079
go back to the end one error
change the way back ski ball was played,

477
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.559
and a lot of people don't want
to give it credit, but the

478
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:09.519
flashiness came into the NBA during the
time of Iris and and them, So

479
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:14.960
the crossovers and all that stuff that
really stood out because you're doing things that

480
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.480
Ray for Austin and then was doing
off court. You know what I'm saying.

481
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:22.239
Even though Ray wasn't a good NBA
player, I hate to say that

482
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:28.280
he was. He was. He
wasn't good at at wonning. Would you

483
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.039
te would you put Ali Everson in
your top ten? He would not be

484
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.239
in my top ten. He wouldn't. I'm looking at the list now,

485
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.000
he probably wouldn't even be in my
top fifteen. I say the same thing

486
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:43.599
too to No disrespect album and three
players that I'm taking over Irison that I

487
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.320
didn't put in my top ten because
I just and I to look about the

488
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.599
top ten. That's why I got
to write it down because it changes so

489
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:54.239
much. But I'm probably taking Dirk, I'm taking the Greek Freak. I'm

490
00:39:54.280 --> 00:40:00.360
taking Dwayne Wade see, and I
would add people like I am, David

491
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:07.119
Robinson, Reggie Miller. I'm just
looking at the list as it sits here.

492
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:13.840
And watch this, David. This
is double overtime. Is this a

493
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:21.719
line? Yeah, Kevin Garnet would
have got added to mine, Clyde Drexley

494
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:30.119
would have got and KII drex are
over Allen. That's my error. Bro,

495
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:34.760
I'm sorry, and you know what. I hate this dude, but

496
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:40.719
I still put Carmelo over him.
That's interesting. I was to pick Carmelo

497
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.800
over him. Shout out to t
he dropped his top ten, he said,

498
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.400
Jordan, Kareem, Lebron, James, Magic, Johnson, Kobe at

499
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.280
number five, six, Timmy at
six, Shaquille at seven, uh Will

500
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.639
at eight, nine, Larry Bird, and then ten is at or Russell.

501
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:05.079
It's just that's a solid list.
And Tea, remind the world you

502
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:09.000
started watching basketball in the sixties.
I mean, Tee, when did you

503
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.079
start watching ball like the early eighties? First of all TA I was gonna

504
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.719
apologize to Dre has been sending shots
to everybody. He put Jordan that three

505
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.920
T yeah, he put yeah.
People put joining that. Uh people,

506
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.199
I love that. We can put
it on the screen. Yo, real

507
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.119
quick, never mind, go ahead, go ahead. Uh that's a great

508
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:36.800
list. T watchball in the eighties. Come on, bro Lebron is not

509
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.760
three on nobody's list. Lebron is
He might be one or two. Lebron

510
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:47.519
is three on some other people list. Really, yes, Kareem was I've

511
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.079
never I'm gonna say never. Kareem
has been dominated on every level of basketball,

512
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:58.760
and that's crazy and up too recently
lou Al Sender got us our only

513
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.000
ring. But hold on, didn't
Lebron just pass his record? He did

514
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.079
the press this record, but he
didn't pass his record. That doesn't that

515
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:12.639
doesn't take away from him being uh
dominant on all three levels. High school,

516
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:19.079
college bros. Lebron did too.
Didn't he didn't go to college.

517
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:27.320
But Kareem didn't go to the Olympics. He wasn't New Olympics Georgia bar he

518
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.599
wasn't Olympics Love. He wasn't going
to the Olympics back then. They started

519
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:37.239
going until they got to let the
NBA players go. He only got his

520
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:44.599
rings because of magic. I know
you, did you not hear me?

521
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:51.280
That's true. I got to give
him a hard time. I love to.

522
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.519
I'm just giving you a hard time. Man. Moving on, uh

523
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:05.800
Russell, he actually took bird.
Steph Curry's in the top ten though,

524
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:15.800
and dang, I'll take that.
We're gonna we're gonna post our top tens

525
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.079
after I do it in my head, but we're gonna post her. We're

526
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.000
gonna post our top tens on our
social media pages. And y'all kind of

527
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:32.559
commented on below and succeed. Heh
a t. Don't let them bully you

528
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.719
into changing your list. If Lebron
is number three, he's number three,

529
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.760
and he's number three, and as
long as Steph is on the list,

530
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.559
our friendship. I see Dre Texan. Hey, Hey, I'm texting my

531
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:50.880
students. Man Marquette Universe has lost
their president. Bro. I'm just checking

532
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:55.079
in to make sure they all could
He died passed away. He got cancer,

533
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.000
all right, So well, thanks
for bringing the room down. Appreciate

534
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:00.599
what you asked. So I say, what such a jerk? You know

535
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.880
what I'm saying you have to be
a jerk. I ain't like I'm texting

536
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.960
Tea. I don't know what you're
doing. I don't know ke changing this

537
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.599
list and stuff. I don't know
what's going on. Bro, How did

538
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:14.920
I have that column influence over my
friends? But I don't know. I

539
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:16.079
can't get you to do nothing.
He missed around, be like, hey,

540
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.880
you won't see no Bucks game next
thing? You know you? It

541
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.440
don't change you. Maybe it don't
change it. Don't change you? But

542
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.280
moving on? Don't change sy non
texting? But the only times you get

543
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.079
a text? Right? He want
to go to the know? We don't.

544
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:36.840
You want to go to the game? You know why? It don't

545
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.960
be too late because first question where
the seats? Wow? And then how

546
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.920
many can I get? Define the
real seat? That would be the real

547
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.760
question. Can I get game you
next? But moving on? Uh?

548
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.519
Dan Hurley has merged as the leading
candidate for the Los Angeles Lakers head coaching

549
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:59.400
job. He is all he's being
offered possibly an eight million, I mean

550
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.519
eight year, one hundred million dollar
contract. What are your guys thoughts on

551
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:06.880
this? Too many years? Too
much money, that's a lot, and

552
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.000
it's a guaranteed contract. It's only
ten million, though nowadays that's cheap.

553
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.599
Yeah, but that is cheap,
and that's cheap for she wouldn't even be

554
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.800
the highest paid coach. He wouldn't, but he's a college coach. But

555
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.719
ten million is nothing. That's a
that's a tax right off, but coming

556
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.480
from the college. But think about
think about think about what you call it.

557
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.079
He probably won a long term deal
because that's what they give in colleges.

558
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.760
But think about Manty over there.
What did Manti get a lot?

559
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.320
Like thirteen a year? Thirteen what
a million? Years? No, you

560
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:44.639
get like thirty million a year.
I don't think it's that Look at four

561
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:53.360
years like years. He has a
six year guaranteed contract and he earns thirteen

562
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:58.360
million annually. Yeah, thirteen million. That's still too much. You see

563
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.599
the Pistons look at the roster,
don't act like they got it. All

564
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:06.800
they needed was a coach. So
so I'm gonna say this, the move

565
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:13.239
is a good one because the Lakers. The Lakers need a coach that has

566
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:17.159
some practicality. It sounds like the
Lakers are going younger, especially if they're

567
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:22.159
gonna draft Lebron Now report Lebron Junior
a report came out that said the Lakers

568
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.800
have no interest in drafting Bronny with
the first round pick. Yeah, he's

569
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.159
not the first round pick. They
know he's gonna be there for a while.

570
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:37.559
Yeah, they know he's gonna be
there for a while for Phoenix.

571
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:47.519
So so I like to move for
the Lakers. I don't. I want

572
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:53.360
to talk about it, but hold
on, I don't know. Does this

573
00:46:53.480 --> 00:47:00.000
coach help Lebron stay? I don't
know if this coach helps Lebron stay.

574
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:06.599
It sounds to me like the Lakers
are embracing going younger, rebuilding, or

575
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:12.719
potentially drafting this coach to help develop
Brianni James. I'm just happy he eaten

576
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.199
Cave and hired JJ Reddy because it
shows that. I think it helps Lebron

577
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.360
and shows that he's not running the
team like everybody thinks he is. So

578
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.679
I don't think it's a bad move. I think that deal is way too

579
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.239
long for a college coach. However, we have to look at the fact

580
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.360
why are you looking like that?
We have to look at the fact that

581
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.400
his team won back to back titles. Rick Patino did well when he came

582
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:42.079
to the NBA. He did Boston
was okay, Boston was Okay, what's

583
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.239
the name did well? Nick Nurse? Nick Nurse did well. He didn't

584
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.840
coach college, he was coaching Canada, Lea, but he still did well.

585
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.880
They're happy ingrained there. There is
not a college coach who has come

586
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:59.639
from college to the NBA who has
done well. Look it up and everybody's

587
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.840
talking about this is a great move. This is a horrible mode. He'm

588
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.800
I might as well hire JJ Reddick. Well, at least no half these

589
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.719
guys. Are you kidding me?
I disagree, man. Billy Donovan,

590
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.079
Billy Donovan had good. He's still
isn't great. He's still coaching. He

591
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:22.440
didn't win the title. Larry Brown. Larry Brown took iverson to his one

592
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.960
thing. Brad Stevens. He did
well, right, and you hollering took

593
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.920
Brad Stevens the coach rat hor work. He did well. That's because of

594
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.599
NT win titles. That don't mean
they don't do well. The winning is

595
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.000
Lenny Wilkins coach for years and he's
the winning and losing his coach in NBA

596
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.559
history. Z Come on, man, come on, man, I just

597
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.000
know I gotta you gotta turn the
tie somehow. Hey, Okay, what's

598
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.639
the difference between him and JJ Reddick
besides some coaching college, he's actually coached

599
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.840
the team. JJ ain't never suited
the coach college. There is the brown

600
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.880
I've never done either. But yes, I know it's different. Okay,

601
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.719
so you talk some somebody who I'm
seeing coach. I get it for no

602
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.400
offense, phenomenal for college level.
That's number one. Number two, I

603
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.960
get it. He gets these guys
to buy in. I understand that too.

604
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.159
But you are talking about pro athletes
who mostly likely make more money than

605
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.760
you, and if they don't want
to listen, they will take the They

606
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.599
take the fine and keep it moving. These college kids still depend on their

607
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:27.519
coach Dan who well, let's not
get disrespectful and going back to back.

608
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.440
When you come to the NBA is
day and who is little damn who it

609
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.199
is a little at least JJ ready
come in, like all right, j

610
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.360
J, what youre talking about,
I'll give you a chance. What you're

611
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.519
talking about, let's leave do what
you're talking about a chance. He ain't

612
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.280
done nothing. But on top of
that, you know who coming up is

613
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.679
silently who's former coach of Villanova?
I don't even think I can't think of

614
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.480
his name, But he's won some
championship. He was there when Bronson and

615
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:58.239
Hart and the other the white boy
from the Knicks, he was there when

616
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.519
they was there. I'm like,
are y'all kicking me with this list?

617
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.000
On top of that, I was
gonna put this out there, the Lakers

618
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.960
coaching job altogether, you got two
years to win a championship or they will

619
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.679
fire you. They will take the
l So why would you You have it

620
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.320
pretty good in Yukon. Now I
get it. Then I with n I

621
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:22.159
L deals. The n C Double
A is a different The landscape is totally

622
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:28.719
different. I understand that. But
for him to hire a a college coach

623
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.559
who has never been in the pros, it's just it's just mine going mind

624
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:37.159
blowing to me. Please, what's
up for you? How many times is

625
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.159
the NBA supposed to recycle and cycle
through these old ass coaches. You've been

626
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.760
there for a long time. Come
on, that won't adapt to the new

627
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:47.320
battle. Yep, Yet, you
got as much as we we have,

628
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.320
like coaches that know the current players. In about seven years, most of

629
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.719
the NBA is going to look different
because they're going to be coming from college.

630
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.159
I understand. I know we got
but we all also got to refresh

631
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.440
our coaches too. Man, we
can't keep having these old, stubborn coaches

632
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.320
who want to keep playing the same
type of way. What I said,

633
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:16.079
like, how many I've been on
you know what I understand that I understand

634
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:22.000
that we have a vast variety of
assistant coaches, coaches been to the G

635
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.880
League, coaches who can who've actually
dealt with pro athletes, but to bring

636
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:31.400
that, but they may not have
the leadership that's needed to wrangle everybody together.

637
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.679
We literally got here with which team
was that where they lost the locker

638
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:44.719
room within twenty games within twenty games, And that's because he did not have

639
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:49.360
that dog in him to be a
leader to command his team. You he's

640
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.880
been at Yukon for a minute.
He knows how to run an organization from

641
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.159
the boss level. A real quick, Tom, real quick. I see

642
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.440
what you're saying. But in college
you are the GM, the coach,

643
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:06.480
the front office, you are everything. You're right, but when you want

644
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.679
someone who has that expertise behind the
scenes, because that means now you have

645
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:15.079
the ability to be able to talk
to owners, GMS and players, so

646
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.119
you know how to be that middle
man that can get this whole organization on

647
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.960
the same play, on the same
page without having to give extra money.

648
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:30.559
No, no, just because you're
a good commentator doesn't mean you're gonna be

649
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.159
a good coach. Is this the
only reason you didn't want it? To

650
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.800
have it? Because him and Lebron
James is like this? But it's like

651
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:42.280
Hiary Keys get it. Kesey didn't
want it, and he no, I

652
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.079
hired Keysey. He'll show up to
work. Okay, Okay, Kesey will

653
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:50.360
show up to work. No,
not working for Andre Douglass. Get a

654
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:57.119
job. I get my job,
though he's gonna play that. Listen you,

655
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:04.840
I'm all about my coins and reputation, a reputation. You're gonna remember

656
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.760
this brother, now, my fair
brother over here to the red You still

657
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.440
where You still wann't hire him?
When I get there? You still wasn't

658
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:19.719
hiring up first day. Kesey didn't
want JJ and he's the biggest Laker fan

659
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.599
out of all of I never wanted
J. Okay, let me ask you.

660
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:29.159
You want JJ, but you want
this college coach? Who let me

661
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:30.599
ask you a question? All right, what's up? Why would you hire

662
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:36.239
J about j T? You would
make you say you know what, I

663
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:37.840
want to give you this to me, to me, to me, if

664
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.719
you're gonna hire, you're gonna if
you're gonna do go the route of fresh

665
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.920
face, fresh eyes to look at
this situation. I want somebody who is

666
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:52.960
not only JJ is his he's an
analyst. And when you when you're an

667
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:58.360
analyst nowadays, you have to have
some type of insight, not in insight

668
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.039
on the game. And I feel
like JJ Redding had a very good insight

669
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:06.599
on the game. Now I will
say him being best buddies with Lebron enough

670
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:10.559
close enough to have a podcast.
Did that's a conflict. It looks it

671
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:15.159
doesn't look good. The optics look
bad. But I feel like somebody who

672
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:21.880
has played pro basketball and if you're
a fresh look this is that's the route

673
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.280
you want to go. But my
thing is, if it was any just

674
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:30.840
running the mile college team, then
I would stand behind what you're saying.

675
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:37.000
We're talking about, yu Kay,
you kind of has produced enough quality NBA

676
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:42.320
players that we trust the program.
And to me, you kind of like

677
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:49.400
number four behind schools like North Carolina
Duke in there. So I believe,

678
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.239
like I would believe that, Okay, here's this guy we need a new

679
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.199
fresh face. We need somebody to
look at the NBA differently because we done

680
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.159
ran through all these used up coaches
already, you know what I'm saying,

681
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.079
So all of them are setting their
old ways. I want someone new who

682
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:08.039
also knows how to talk to my
front office, because that's this is important.

683
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:10.920
A lot of these coaches get fired
because they they ain't got the trust

684
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:16.840
of the front office or the support
of the support everything that you come in,

685
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:21.920
you sit down, this is the
expectations we want here, plus a

686
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.639
ring in one of the most lucrative
markets. What can you do for me?

687
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.920
With that being said, With that
being saying to one real quick,

688
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.719
let's say eight year deal. Will
get me that eight year deal? Eight

689
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:38.000
year deal? He's there all eight, because you're right, you have to

690
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:45.280
you have to have patience. The
Lakers do not have deal. I give

691
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.079
them six because you gotta give them
two to get you. We remember,

692
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.679
they don't get rid of coaches quickly
for eight year deal. They're rid of

693
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.199
them for four year deal. Three
year deal. I'll give you that.

694
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:59.960
So but to me, it sounds
like the Lakers are going deeper in their

695
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:05.960
embracing a rebuild. And you if
you're going to draft younger players like little

696
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:10.920
bronni uh any bitty guards like he
said, and in some of their other

697
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:22.039
younger town guards go ahead that he
said. That's not what I said.

698
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:28.840
You always going to say that lady
point guard or whatever he's going we have

699
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:32.039
a show called any Bitty point Guard? Go ahead. I guess we do

700
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:37.559
it because because you were crazy.
I know I said it, but I

701
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:44.840
harm bronis in the game, so
I mean, you know, I like

702
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.599
this for the Lakers. I think
it's a good move. And here's the

703
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:54.239
thing to remember to Lebron has always
shown great respect for a number of college

704
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.679
coaches. If Bron could have picked, he probably would have picked old boy

705
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.800
from North Carolina if he was still
interested in coaching. And the reason,

706
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:09.880
uh from Duke not Duke. No, he would have picked uh dude from

707
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:19.159
n C. He was really close. But uh, I know Johnson,

708
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.760
the old coach for who North Carolina. I know you're not talking about coach

709
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:29.480
K because that's Duke Coach K.
Obviously that was Lebron's coach in US.

710
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.599
But coach K is too old.
I think it's uh, that's what I

711
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:37.519
wouldn't say. That's uh The old
U n C coach was Williams coach Williams

712
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:43.360
he Lebron was a big Roy Williams
fan. He's coach k they're both oldest.

713
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.159
What I'm saying is what I'm saying
is Lebron was close to them,

714
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.760
So I think this college coach thing, it might actually be what Lebron needs

715
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:55.480
for this. Okay, well hold
up, Tom, I'm sorry who else

716
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.599
they gonna get? You're sitting here
huffing and puffing, like why you're giving

717
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:06.480
who you gonna get? There really
was some type of people do JJ.

718
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:08.679
The JJ thing was just funny to
me. The JJ thing was funny.

719
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.239
Did I did I want JJ?
Of course I don't. I don't care

720
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:14.639
who they get. I thought it
was hilarious. The JJ thing was just

721
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:19.639
hilarious to me. My thing is
the the whole coach, the whole college

722
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.719
coach thing is that number one,
there's never been a successful college coach.

723
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:27.199
Brad Stevens is the exception, but
it took him a long time and he

724
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.480
had the backing of Billy Donovan is
a very successful NBA coach. What are

725
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:37.800
you talking about, Bro? He
has over his winning percentage is what is

726
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.360
neck fifty. No, hold on, then on top of that, you

727
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:45.599
know who he had on that roster, he's still ot to coach him who

728
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:51.960
he had on that roster? You
can't. And I'm just saying, like,

729
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.280
don't don't see her like I'm watching
this like who they're trying to hire,

730
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.360
like I'm literally sitting here like Larry
Brown was a successful coach, winning,

731
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:05.760
winning, Yes he did come from
college, Yes he did. Bro

732
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:10.119
His college record was two hundred and
sixty two and one hundred. A percentage

733
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:15.039
I'm about to tell you his winning
percentage in college was point seventy two four.

734
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.599
His NBA career was above five hundred. Are you kidding me? R?

735
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:23.920
Broa whoa whoa, whoa whoa before
he then he coached Lebron James most

736
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:27.440
of those times. No, he
did, Larry Brown, and I coached

737
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:31.440
Lebron James. He coached Alan I
I'm sorry. He was on Denver and

738
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:36.559
uh he coached the Denver Nuggets and
he coached the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

739
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.920
And he did. He took he
took the he took bro I said,

740
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:45.400
no, let me finish. No, hold up, hold up, Larry

741
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:51.360
Brown was the heckut Larry Brown.
Think about Mike Brown. I thought you

742
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.639
about Mike Brown. My filege Larry
Brown took Alan Iverson to the final.

743
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:59.119
Hold on Mike Larry Brown. He
took Alan Iverson to the finals. He

744
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.840
took Indiana. He coached that.
He took the Detroit Pistons to the finals

745
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:12.679
and won the game. Howkying bro
His record was one thousand and ninety eight

746
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.079
in nine hundred at the end of
his career. Yeah, in total,

747
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:21.119
what I'm saying is you don't have
these stats. I'm talking about a college

748
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:25.320
coach coming into the NBA has not
done very well. Now, over the

749
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:31.679
years, five over the years,
gave you five over the years. Over

750
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:37.000
the years, they have eventually gotten
good. Billy Donovan's record, he's above

751
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:43.440
five hundred. Brad Stevens is above
five hundred. Rick Patino is slightly below

752
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:47.960
five hundred. Okay, Fred Horborg
is slightly under fire. But we're talking

753
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.280
about the Lakers here, who expect
to be in the NBA finals every single

754
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:57.239
year. But coaching is sixty,
players is forty. It's not just on

755
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.679
the he can't get out there and
suit up. He can run plays.

756
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.800
He could give you a mentality.
You said all it is, But you

757
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.400
did you talk about Monty Williams.
They talking about, Oh, that's too

758
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.880
much money they paid him. But
Monty is to Tone's point until Marquis's point

759
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:17.679
is their recycle coaches. Their recycle
coaches at the end of the tire recycle

760
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.840
coaches. Right at the end of
the day, it's a new day,

761
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.719
new year, that tried something different. You didn't went with all of the

762
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:29.400
old players. You didn't went with
all of the old coaches. What do

763
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:32.480
you do now? Nothing has got
you a championship. You gotta move,

764
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:36.480
you gotta move, and then they
win the championship. Who's the coach when

765
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.639
they want the championship? Luke Walter
the Lakers? No, uh, dude,

766
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:49.599
that just got fired from Phoenix.
A KD got fired. Frank Yeah,

767
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:57.079
yeah, some good one exactly.
You're but the Lakers weren't gonna The

768
01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.519
Lakers fired him though they weren't gonna
hire him again. You or they turned

769
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:02.320
a new key, got to do
something different. These are with the Lakers.

770
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:06.440
They got two three years to win. Come on, two three years

771
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:10.039
next topeg please, we'll move on. During the press conference, the Dallas

772
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:15.800
Mavericks coach Jason kidds stated Jalen Brown
was is the best player on the Celtics

773
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:20.079
team. Jason Tatum responded to this
comment, saying, this is a ploy

774
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:24.679
to divide the team, divide the
locker room. Is Jalen Brown or Jason

775
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:30.360
Tatum the reason why the Bosses does
win the ANBA Championship. I'm gonna let

776
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.760
Kesy go first because you and I
had a long kind of back and forth

777
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:37.599
fare and didn't see. But before
kes goes, I just want to say

778
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.960
something really quickly. In the twenty
twenty four playoffs, Jason Tatum has averaged

779
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.800
twenty five point three points, ten
point four rebounds, five point nine assists.

780
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:51.800
Jalen Brown has averaged twenty four point
eight points, six point one rebounds,

781
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.559
two point six assists and the same
amount of games played in the twenty

782
01:02:54.599 --> 01:03:01.400
twenty four playoffs. Has nothing to
do with action cat Jason Kidd cap key,

783
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:15.360
I think he has a point,
but continue, I'm gonna say neither,

784
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:22.039
neither. It has to be one. But continue. You So you're

785
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:27.159
asking me who team is it?
Right? Yes and no? But I'm

786
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.800
asking more of who is If you're
gonna who is the best player on this

787
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.519
team? So that means, because
that means who team it is? Then?

788
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:39.480
Right? Oh yeah and some yes, who's standing on it? Anthony

789
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:45.719
Davis is the best player on the
Lakers, right is Lebron? Yeah?

790
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:51.880
Okay, never mind, it didn't
work. Okay. The best players so

791
01:03:52.000 --> 01:04:01.679
far on Boston to me has been
Derek White. He'd been the most consistent.

792
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:06.599
I don't know what to say that. I mean, you know who

793
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:11.639
your superstars are. I get it. But this playoff run, the best

794
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.039
player that's been on that team has
been Derek White, the most consistent player

795
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:20.000
White. It has yes, yes
and no. They I just gave you

796
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:24.360
the okay, what you just gave
me what I just gave you the top

797
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:28.119
two players on Boston right now according
to stats, and Derek White is not

798
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.639
one, and that the season was
at the playoffs. The playoffs, I

799
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:36.159
will give you, Jason Kidds said, Jayalen Brown is the best player on

800
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:43.119
the Celtics right now. We're talking
about playoffs. To me, I see

801
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:47.440
your point. You get out of
that if you watch the games, if

802
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:51.800
you watch the playoffs. He didn't
say both. He wasn't. Actually both

803
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:56.239
of them have been tribu don't have
dance. I'm asking you a question.

804
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.320
He went the opposite of the way
and said, Derek White, he said,

805
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.519
can I say I should see because
because to me, neither one of

806
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:05.239
them has been born to the caliber
of money that they're getting paid. If

807
01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:11.679
you asked me to be neither one
of them has given me the caliber player

808
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:17.320
that that owns that team. Really, they played, they've been playing mediocre.

809
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:26.440
Their their supporting cast is billing the
ass out, okay, whether you

810
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:28.960
want to admit it or not.
And then Porzingis came and saved them in

811
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.199
game one. He saved them.
He didn't save them. They didn't need

812
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:36.679
to be saved. They destroyed Dallas
without that, without that performance that he

813
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:41.679
puts on it, without that performing
he put on in the first half,

814
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.239
well he had fourteen in the first
half, fifteen in the first half.

815
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:54.039
They don't win that game. Razingi's
changed that because but he also made he

816
01:05:54.199 --> 01:06:00.519
made it difficult for Dallas because Dallas
didn't have anybody to guard him. He

817
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:05.159
was too quick for the bigs and
he was and he was too big,

818
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:10.679
too big for the small other players. So he was taking advantage of that.

819
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.039
That's how they got the league.
And once they got the leader,

820
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:15.800
all they have to do is maintain
it that Jaylen browning in them. They

821
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.119
just followed the suit. They didn't
really do anything. Derek White was hitting

822
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:24.280
big shots to start the game.
Drew Holliday hit big shots to start the

823
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:29.679
game. Tatum and Brown don't come
around until the role players start doing what

824
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:34.679
they do. And that's why I
don't know who is a leader. And

825
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:40.639
they've been having this issuest since they've
been there. It was Marcus Smart at

826
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:44.480
first, but now it looks like
Derek White is their leader. They hard

827
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:47.400
and sol of their team because without
Derek White do they get those ws they

828
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:53.440
got because Derek White has some pretty
good performances this year. But here's why

829
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:58.599
what you're saying is good but irrelevant
because Jason Kidds said the best player on

830
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.400
Boston is But I don't want to
give them the best player because they're not

831
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:05.840
playing the best players. You know, the hard park. They agree with

832
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:09.880
it, you did. He shouldn't
have said that. He should have got

833
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.280
quiet. I know. I think, I think I see the same thing.

834
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.760
Drew was not wrong. He's like, he's not wrong. I see

835
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:20.920
the same thing that Drew was saying
Game one to me, Jaylen Brown won

836
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:26.800
that game for them. Jaylen Brown, not porzingis not Jason Tatum, Jason

837
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:30.159
Payton at eight points a half,
and I think he scored the rest of

838
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.079
his second half for most of that
they once they cut it to eight,

839
01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:36.079
Jason Tatum, it was more Jaylen
Brown. Though he's doing it on both

840
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:40.159
ends of the court. I think
that's why Jason Kidds said that he's doing

841
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:42.559
it on both ends of the court. Now, I see what you're saying

842
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.559
about the whole Derek White thing,
but I feel like Jaylen Brown is really

843
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.440
feeling the moment, Like I'm not
forna losing the final game. I'm not

844
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:53.400
for this happen again because when he
when he played Golden State, he got

845
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.360
overwhelmed real quick and it was just
it just got nasty from there. And

846
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:00.760
Jason Tatum to me, to me, even Joe Jason tam was like,

847
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:02.800
oh, he's trying to divide the
locker room up. This locker room was

848
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:08.400
already already divided. But it was
one of those things where, uh,

849
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:14.079
I just got word that Luke's good
to go for tonight's game. Yeah he

850
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:18.119
did. Actually, there was no
alpha. So mister Stevens agreed agreed.

851
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.560
That's the problem that the Celtics have
always Because we talked about this in our

852
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:28.359
run. Who's a batsman and who's
Jay Brown? Turn it into batman?

853
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:32.279
Jalen Brown is turned into batman.
But the point that they were making is

854
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:38.319
Jason Tatum's responds, Jason kidd Is
just Jason kidd Is is kind of is

855
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:41.439
kind of poking. He's poking.
He's poking a bear, and he does

856
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:45.520
whatever he can to try to win. Remember the whole hit me so he

857
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.359
can drop his Yeah, that's all
he doing. He's trying to stir with

858
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:54.079
him so that Dallas can come in
and have ahead Taytim have thirty tonight.

859
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:59.359
It didn't work out well, but
I see what he's doing. But looking

860
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:02.199
at Boston squad, the fact that
you said, Derek White, I'm saying

861
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:05.800
Jaylen Brown is becoming batman on his
team, saying I'm gonna say this,

862
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:12.960
I like them both, but Jalen
I still think he's overpaid. But Jayleen

863
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:18.439
Brown is showing us that a y'all
snubbing me and all this stuff, and

864
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.079
I'm gonna show y'all that I'm gonna
put this team off and pay them.

865
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:26.319
Brown is the more dominant one.
Tatum just sits back too much for me,

866
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:30.960
man, And he's too passive.
He's too passive, and hees talented.

867
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:35.840
Be the alphat stand on something,
be something. But I think Jason

868
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.359
Tatum realizes I can't just go out
here and score fifty points a week gonna

869
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:48.199
win the game. But you gotta
be dominant. There's nothing dominant about him.

870
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:53.119
Let's just color what it is.
He's like skin. Anytime light skinned

871
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.039
brother come through, hew, I
sit your soft all right? Whatever?

872
01:09:56.079 --> 01:10:00.199
Man, I guess even when he
duncked on Lebron's rookie year, did you

873
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.680
really remember that? I do?
You remember that? I do? But

874
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:08.039
wasn't nastier than Scottie Pippins when he
dunked on Patrick Ewan the Scotty's That is

875
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:10.760
the greatest dunk of all time,
you know what I'm saying. It was

876
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.680
back of all time. And he
bumped them bron Lebrowns like skin, you

877
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:21.600
know what I'm saying. So remember
he got geeked like a Steph Curry exactly.

878
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:26.479
Steph ain't gonna dunk on nobody,
though, exactly when Lebron blocked the

879
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:32.479
shot, and I canna repeat what
he le Bron said, but little beat

880
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:39.640
it. But you know, but
yeah, at the end of the day,

881
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:44.119
it's to me, Jaylen Brown is
the best player, agreed, But

882
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:47.520
to me, who's been playing the
best for them in this playoffs has been

883
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:50.439
Derek White. To me, I
think we get them to this point,

884
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:55.680
but to get them where they at
its Derek White or for play good too,

885
01:10:55.800 --> 01:11:00.560
he did, I think it's injured? What real quick? Real quick?

886
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:02.840
I don't know if I don't know
if we talked about that this year.

887
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.039
I don't know if we talked about
this this year. Is the Boston

888
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:10.600
subjects of Superteam? I don't think
so we talked about it because I don't

889
01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:15.079
have Perzingas as that super player that
he once was. I don't have Jaylen

890
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:19.199
Brown as a superstar. I have
him as up and coming, up and

891
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:25.840
coming. Okay, I think the
only superstar I really have with Jason Tatum

892
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:29.279
now Brown is becoming one. Boston's
not a super team. They're a well

893
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:32.960
rounded team, That's what I say. I don't think they're a super team.

894
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:41.600
Before KD was Golden State of Superteam. Yes, before absolutely, then

895
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:45.159
Boston is the same thing. But
so here's the thing. Golden no,

896
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:49.960
let me take it back. Golden
State was a not a super team because

897
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:56.359
they were they were drafted. Boston
is not a superteam. Bostonn Brown was

898
01:11:56.439 --> 01:12:00.720
drafted, Jason Tatum was drafted,
and Persingas was signed and free agency.

899
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:05.560
HM so and per Zingis. Let's
be honest, we we caught Colin and

900
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:11.079
Anthony Davis or Zingis is a is
A is A is a blink away from

901
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:15.920
a broken something too. He is
a He played all that energy, all

902
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:20.800
that hard energy to be probably question
Boston played that very smart. Well,

903
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:24.840
yeah, they played in the finals. They didn't. They didn't need to.

904
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.600
They didn't need to because they knew
they could get back to the finals

905
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:32.279
in the East. Especially once they
knew Joel and b was hurt and they

906
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:36.079
knew Giannis was hurt. They didn't
have anybody else to contend to, to

907
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:42.039
contend with, I mean, and
that's why they was able to set Prezingers

908
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:45.479
down and let him heal. And
then now they're bringing him back. Mm

909
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.479
hmmm. I think he's gonna come
back like that, But I agree.

910
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:54.039
He didn't expect him to come back
playing like that. They expected him to

911
01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:57.880
come playing off. But presinking has
probably been practicing with them every day.

912
01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.800
Yeah, I mean he has,
He's just he just hasn't been. It's

913
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.520
interesting because a lot of people have
the same kind of injury that he had.

914
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:09.239
He just has more. He had
more time to get right. This

915
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:14.199
is not on the agenda, but
I want to talk about this before Bucks

916
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:20.159
talk, Tony want to pop the
picture of the us A women's team drafted.

917
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:29.239
Uh roster has been put out.
They've been They put out the roster.

918
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.960
Shout out to the ninety four feet
podcast for integrating some w n b

919
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:36.159
A stuff in here. I gotta
give us some credit for that because we've

920
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:44.800
been just basketball men's for years and
occasionally some NFL, but we've integrated some

921
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.760
w n b A. Let's start
a shout out. Shout out that number

922
01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:54.600
one, but number two. Let's
cut the crap here, Kaylyn Clark effect

923
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.399
is real. Okay, let's just
call it what it is. That's all

924
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:01.600
I'm saying. You don't like Ark
effect is real? Now, going back

925
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.199
to this roster, speaking of that, Uh, this is a team USA

926
01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:12.680
women's basketball and people were upset.
I'm not even gonna go with these names

927
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.079
because I'm not the best name person. If either one of y'all want to

928
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:17.319
go over. This is the time, bro. I don't know half these

929
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:20.279
players. So I know half of
them, I just don't know the name.

930
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:24.439
I just not will with the name. Did make it? Nope?

931
01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:29.680
No, So but let's let's set
from here. Yeah, from the USA,

932
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:33.000
Well she played here. I'm just
asking because I didn't know, said,

933
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.359
I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

934
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.880
I don't know. That's the flub. Part of your nationality. Can let

935
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.479
you play wherever you want? Know, she was supposed to make the roster.

936
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.039
They she just got snubbed. Yeah, I just want your reaction.

937
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:53.800
So, looking at this USA basketball
roster, given that Caitlin is not on

938
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.399
it, given that she's not on
it, I don't think it's a snub.

939
01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:00.600
I mean, you gotta earn that
stuff, right, Did she earn

940
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:04.159
it? She's only played what ten
games? But that's the whole That's the

941
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:10.319
whole conversation that I think thirty years
ago ahead, that's the whole conversation.

942
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:15.000
I think that a lot of people
are not properly having They're thinking that the

943
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:20.359
Caitlyn Clark effect works for everything,
and they tend to forget to the Olympic.

944
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:25.640
You have to try out for that. You have to earn that,

945
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:32.520
you know, because every time the
Kaitlyn Krk gets left out of something,

946
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:36.319
and like, is this the right
business move for women's basketball? And that's

947
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:41.359
what I'm asking you, is this
the right business move for women's basketball?

948
01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:49.840
Because yes, I got Kaitland Clark
gets on this team. Guess what millions,

949
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:56.159
maybe hundreds of thousands of girls are
buying us a women's basketball jerseys.

950
01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:00.000
Okay, hold on, that is
a good point, but let's not city

951
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.319
an act like Roja. Wilson ain't
on this list? What the best player

952
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:06.960
in their league? Right? Because
I know I know Ton who is?

953
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:14.079
How does wasn't playing for? Who
does Wilson play for? Oh? I

954
01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:18.880
have no idea who played for the
Fever? Who play for? She did

955
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:24.119
play for the Fever? I know
who does what'son play for? No?

956
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:27.079
She plays for the Las Vegas Aces. Well, you know I don't want

957
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:33.359
my point is again, but taking
consideration, you at this moment only know

958
01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:45.520
where because she just got there,
that Clark, because of the policity she

959
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:53.000
got, she should be there.
Just here here's the thing, or you

960
01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:56.199
I think you here, here's the
thing. Where I want the world to

961
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:59.319
give a con They ain't gonna say
the world. Here's the thing I want

962
01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:03.319
the U. S A To get
a handle on. Okay, the Olympics

963
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:08.760
is a world thing. They don't
give a damn about who comes from what

964
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:15.159
country or what. They're not watching
the Olympics to see some somewhat popular player

965
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:20.199
from the United States. They're there
to see who is going to win gold.

966
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:25.560
You put Caitlyn Clark on a team
full of women who bust they ask

967
01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:29.680
to get there, and you're there
simply because of popularity, and you think

968
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:33.359
that that team is not gonna fold. We are not playing for a regular

969
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:40.159
championship that you can get every season. We are playing for mother fucking gold.

970
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:46.359
But I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying. You're

971
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:53.840
saying gold. I don't get you
have not proven anything to me you need

972
01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:57.880
to be on I'm gonna I'm gonna
tell you this right now. It's one

973
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.760
person on that roster that probably they
gotta get approval from. Diana Tarassi.

974
01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:08.479
She has multiple gold medals for the
USA team that she's not. I didn't

975
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.680
have to look it up. I'm
not even looking at it ever. Ever,

976
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.279
everybody knows who Diana Tarassei is.
If you don't know who Diana Tarassi

977
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:19.640
is in I know, I know
she owed, she owed, and she's

978
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:23.960
still that business as you just she
just put a rique out. Yeah,

979
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:29.079
she dropped thirty eight. The Olympic
is a completely difficult bro If you can't

980
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.520
handle the w n b A,
this world so tony. You're just saying

981
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.680
this Cleveland clarkfigures just in the US, it is. It's not it's not

982
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:43.680
it's not not a world. I'm
ain't nobody in Barcelona buying the Caitlan Clark

983
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.560
jersey. How do we know if
we don't put it out there? You

984
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:48.560
know how, I don't know because
Barcelona has their own women team that they

985
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:55.479
support. You gotta remember the women's
ball overseas before the w n b A

986
01:18:55.600 --> 01:19:01.600
became something worth ball than for so
women basketball world wide is well brit that

987
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:05.119
is where That's where I was gonna
grow. That's where the controversy with Caitlyn

988
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:11.439
Clark really came into play. They
letting her go overseas, that is that

989
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.640
is where the controversy came in to
play at because Britney Grinder got added.

990
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:21.439
But Caitlyn Clark got snugged in Russia. No name another center in that league

991
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:26.039
better than her, And that is
why I am not against her being there

992
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:30.199
all the things. All we have
to do is tell Britney stops smoking with

993
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:36.479
you need what's that one girl?
But the going true? No. Look,

994
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:41.600
she just came from prison. She
can't have none on the plane no

995
01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:50.880
more, but she can have it
watched there. I was too close,

996
01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:55.600
bro, gonta get you a bag
at and the blood and you'll be good.

997
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:00.239
You know what I get with your
I get where you're coming from.

998
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:03.399
I just found that I did see
this. I thought this was interesting because

999
01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:09.359
I just feel like, who was
that Thomas? And Thomas is basically saying

1000
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:15.119
what I'm saying that t K.
What's good, bro? She did get

1001
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:18.600
snuff. I think she's leading the
league in points and right under Wilson her.

1002
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:24.359
What's the kind back? T K? Who's been playing terrible? Brittany

1003
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:29.640
or Caitlin can't stop Caleb? She
This is what I say about having a

1004
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.199
rookie. She's having a rookie season. That's what she is. I we

1005
01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:36.359
thought she was gonna people thought she
was gonna come into the league dominating and

1006
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:43.000
what's that girl named Diana Torissa?
So she said all right, okay,

1007
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:46.119
okay. When they talked about her
to Kaitlyn Clark, she was like,

1008
01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:48.439
she's gonna come into the league doing
this and this. She was like,

1009
01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:51.760
yeah, okay, don't get it
twisted. We we we go hard in

1010
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:56.159
the w n B A now and
they and she has been proven right.

1011
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:59.560
They go hard in the w n
B A real hard. I'll give you

1012
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:04.279
the next Olympics Caitlin will definitely be
on the rocks next. This is not

1013
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.279
this is not her year. Not
if she don't have a good year,

1014
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:13.920
got four years to get ready.
I told somebody, I told somebody to

1015
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.800
a year. But I told somebody
the w n B A is very cutthrow.

1016
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:20.880
They will they know, they will
cut a player if you are fighting

1017
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:25.479
for them. But here's the thing. The number no money. There's no

1018
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:30.359
money. They getting no money out
of this. You get sponsorship, get

1019
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.199
sponsorships, you get some bragging right
here and stuff like that. How many

1020
01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:38.239
people do you know got a gold
medal? Yes, Calo thinks they're rings.

1021
01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:45.199
Oh yes, what you hold onto
something? But I don't know.

1022
01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:49.399
To me, To me, it
was just a little bit of bad business.

1023
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:51.800
But I see where you're coming from, Tom, I see where you're

1024
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.479
coming from. To me, it's
just a little bad business. Not really.

1025
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:59.880
You have to remember the Olympic team. They play together for years.

1026
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.199
They do. They played together for
years, and I don't think when I

1027
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:05.960
really think about it, I don't
even think she No, she's not part

1028
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.720
of that. But they had all
they had like a college. No,

1029
01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:13.279
they have a three on three.
That's one of the new things in the

1030
01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:15.520
Olympics this year. She didn't make
that roster. They even put her on

1031
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:25.000
that because you gotta remember your Olympic
team. But they put in brink old

1032
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:28.520
girl from uh the transfer from l
s U. I forgot her name,

1033
01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:32.880
and they put up so so as
knocking four feet is adding w NBA,

1034
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:41.000
we will get better because again we
bought it. It's forty bucks. We've

1035
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.600
been watching it. We were just
watching the game behind y'all. Look.

1036
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:48.239
I support the ladies, but it's
very frustrating. I'm not gonna hold job.

1037
01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:55.720
I just turn on a new sport
for the first time hood Milwaukee.

1038
01:22:56.159 --> 01:23:00.560
A w NBA team should Is there
enough talent here, Keith, You're you're

1039
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:04.479
in the community. Is there enough
talent here that Milwaukee could ben No,

1040
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:08.039
we don't have the money for it. Let's start there. We don't have

1041
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:12.279
the money for We barely have the
arena for it. Market. I mean

1042
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:16.800
we can play at the same word. I mean they can they put the

1043
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:25.760
visor for the Panthers ain't doing nothing. Yeah, but I just don't think

1044
01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:30.159
the city is markeable enough for that
because it's already a hard market as it

1045
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:36.720
is, and it comes but to
come to but Toronto that's Canada International international

1046
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:41.880
still, but like to come to
Milwaukee, a small town like Milwaukee and

1047
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:46.359
think it's going to be popular.
And so you also got to remember the

1048
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:50.359
the franchise has to eat the first
four years because they're not going to make

1049
01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:55.199
immediate money off of w n B
a team we can't afford to eat.

1050
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:58.319
We still got coaches we pay and
we got coaches, I'm saying, and

1051
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.640
we could thank you for that.
And you know what, real quick star

1052
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:04.079
blaming on him. No, No, let's talk about this. I don't

1053
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:08.880
want to talk about this, but
talk about when Lakers get fired, who

1054
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:14.760
do they blame coaching fire? They
blame Lebron When when k D get coaches

1055
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.920
fired, who do we blame KD
when the Bucks get coaches fired. It's

1056
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:20.439
you. No, no, no, no, no, We're not doing

1057
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:23.680
that. You're not doing that.
Okay, what's good, homie, Thanks

1058
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.840
for listening. The bro spend a
minute real quick not blaming him. Man,

1059
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:30.079
we're gonna go to Bucks talk.
And before we popped this clip,

1060
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:36.720
he playing for Is he playing for
Greek? Yes? Yes, sold because

1061
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.199
he has that he has dual citizenship. He could do that. No,

1062
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:42.399
no, hold on, second,
holdore, let me set it up,

1063
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.960
set it up, let me set
it up. Brothers not his brother's not

1064
01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:53.239
playing because he's uh, he's tour
a c L. So Jannis has decided

1065
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:56.079
to play for the Greek team for
the US I mean for the Olympics.

1066
01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:59.399
He's probably decided to play for the
Greek team. Dre was pretty upset about

1067
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:01.119
this. I don't Finally, I
didn't think it was a big deal.

1068
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:05.119
Let's go ahead, and uh,
Dre, you want to go ahead,

1069
01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:08.520
I'll leave it because we're already in
an hour and thirty three minutes. It

1070
01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:10.920
is probably one of the longer,
but it's a good episode, as we

1071
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:15.439
always do. My problem with this
is all of a sudden, Okay,

1072
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:21.760
Giannis is at an age where he
is getting non contact injuries. Concern number

1073
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:30.640
one. You just sat out all
of the playoffs. Concern number two in

1074
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:35.479
the first round, and now we
three rounds later, he still shot out

1075
01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:40.039
the playoffs. Don't even they don't
even go to training for that for another

1076
01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:44.600
three or four weeks probably, I
mean, because you don't want it to

1077
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:46.720
be a no no, no no
no, Let me finish, Let me

1078
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:50.720
finish. But he know he is
playing, he is playing. He might

1079
01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:57.640
he just might be a face just
to make it think bad like this.

1080
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.199
I said, he might just be
a face to be out there. My

1081
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:06.520
problem with him playing is you use
the summer to get fully healthy, and

1082
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:11.279
you work out for the team that
pays you sixty million dollars this year.

1083
01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:14.560
I feel you. You don't go
play. I'm sorry, I'm alma stuff.

1084
01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:18.840
You don't go play for a team
that plays you nothing when we're over

1085
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:23.319
here trying to make sure your body
can last the next three or four years

1086
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.920
ago. I don't like you are
talking from a Bucks fan perspective, and

1087
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:31.840
I respect you for this season ticket
holder. My bad a very expensive one,

1088
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:41.439
so I understand your concern. But
one the Olympics only come around every

1089
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:46.239
four years. Two that is his
hole. That is like if an NBA

1090
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:51.319
player who's from Milwaukee has an opportunity
to come back and just do a quick

1091
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:57.079
summer league game, we gonna be
mad he don't come home more than we're

1092
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.840
gonna love him being home. Three
it's great. If there's anything he owes

1093
01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:06.800
that he owes them, there would
be no every summer. Three. Four.

1094
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:11.159
You said he needs to work out, right, you don't think balling

1095
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.560
in the Olympics is working out,
not safely. Get your butt here to

1096
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:16.880
do with some training thing about you
know what's gonna you know what's gonna happen

1097
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:20.960
with him being playing for Greek.
We're gonna get that explosives back for him

1098
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:25.720
to get injured in October. Don't
get no dog back in him. All

1099
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:28.600
we know he go there and eat
the Greek yogurt and get healthy and don't

1100
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:31.800
have another injury. Let that man
have his moments. The Olympics only comes

1101
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:38.359
around every four he kept playing four
years, could be from and I'm going

1102
01:27:38.399 --> 01:27:43.000
to go back to Nigerian ball for
them. I'm interested to see what do

1103
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:45.760
you not like it? What do
you what do you think about this?

1104
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:48.439
I'm fine with it. I mean, it is what it is at this

1105
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:58.359
point? Can we keep getting upset
at people making choices that they want to

1106
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:02.560
make? Is real? But I
think we're not going to play for the

1107
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:06.920
Big Three And he might not even
play hard. It might be just like

1108
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:12.760
some cardio. When have you known? Because everybody, because we all know

1109
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:16.880
Greece is not gonna win, we
all know that. Think about it.

1110
01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:23.720
In his hometown, he's just working
out. You might as well go and

1111
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:29.960
play. Why wouldn't you It wouldn't
make sense. Okay, if it was

1112
01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:34.359
you, you would be playing.
No, I wouldn't you feel you are?

1113
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:41.159
Casey? Remember how upset we were
when Drew Holiday played some years ago.

1114
01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:46.199
We're like, no, you don't
need to play exactly him and Middleton,

1115
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:49.920
And now what happened when Milton came
back. The knees ain't been the

1116
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:59.119
same them, knees ain't been the
same since hard all that summer for the

1117
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:02.199
Actually, actually him and Drew didn't
even play a lot that summer. But

1118
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:08.239
you're practicing every day. So what
you have to you're NBA player just told

1119
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:12.640
you're missing the point. The point
is you don't want to play for another

1120
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:16.479
competitive sport. That impacts your body
was just hurt. So I'm going to

1121
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.920
say this, only the first team
I want to see him play for is

1122
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:24.000
the Bucks, not gree Now here's
here's my thing, here's my thing.

1123
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:28.039
I'm kind of let's mark this on
the calendar. By the way, this

1124
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:35.880
is June ninth at six. Low
key, low key. I kind of

1125
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:39.199
agree with you, thank you.
Now. The only reason I'm doing that

1126
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:44.520
is because Paul George broke his leg
in the Olympics. He was out for

1127
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:46.479
a while and he hasn't been the
same for a while. He just kind

1128
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:50.720
of getting back going accents doing too
much, but was always that was a

1129
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:58.720
freak of you. Very true.
Yeah I get that, but like a

1130
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:02.039
couple of things. One that was
a freak accident, but it can't happen

1131
01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:09.359
again. Number two, Yannis goes
hard every time you went to the preseason

1132
01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:11.800
game. Do you remember what we
said to each other? Why is he

1133
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:15.439
going so hard? Why is he
remember that? Why is he trying to

1134
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:18.760
go for forty in a preseason game? My thing is this, My thing

1135
01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:25.000
is this is three if Yannis were
two, because usually he don't. You're

1136
01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:28.560
right every four years. But my
thing is you just came from an injury

1137
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:31.840
that could have been a lot worse. So it's not like you sprained the

1138
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:35.800
anchor or strain the hand me in
so you're like, I'm sitting down for

1139
01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:39.399
the rest of the season. No, this is an injury that was like

1140
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:42.640
you could have tore your achilles and
then you'd have been out almost all of

1141
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:47.079
next year. So my thing is, Yannis, if you're gonna play cool

1142
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:51.119
but not, don't don't go.
Don't go super hard. Don't go super

1143
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:55.960
hard. Yanis trying to relax.
Just kind of keep in mind, I'm

1144
01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:58.520
not gonna go from an angle of
it. We pay you because you know

1145
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.880
that's where Drake coming from, and
you know his season. I'm actually going

1146
01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:05.560
season. His season. Tickets value
go down if Gannis is out for the

1147
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:11.239
year. Sorry, paid for it. Don't nor don't Okay, don't you

1148
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:15.520
want to go to the game.
I want to go to Superstar. But

1149
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.039
if you look, even if you
look at it from that, look at

1150
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:25.039
all the new eyes that change from
him playing in the Olympics. So your

1151
01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:29.720
tickets to still have value, don't
fell You'll be fine. Take down.

1152
01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:33.920
Uh plopped the last clip right quick? Tom? Yeah? Stop when you

1153
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:40.600
got the Milwaukee who the players is
going to fat first. If Michael Red

1154
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.640
wasn't hurt, you still be I
don't know, maybe no, you would

1155
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:49.279
not come the way it was going
at all. No one about I came

1156
01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:53.399
in making the playoffs. That's numb
one option. I don't know anybody else

1157
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:58.800
on this couse that you played well. Absolutely you benefited from Michael Red being

1158
01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:03.039
hurt. Don't do that because the
other niggas wasn't getting He wasn't there listening

1159
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:09.840
to y'all. Niggas listen, y'all, niggas listen just to respond. You're

1160
01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:15.279
yelling, y'all listening, y'all,
y'all listen, just to respond. And

1161
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:23.520
we having a heating conversations like we
do any words, they just be letting

1162
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:28.239
them that that really is that's because
he's not listening. Like he said,

1163
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:31.119
you're listening to respond, not to
listen. We do that a lot too.

1164
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:34.800
But my thing is, what are
you? What is your Oh?

1165
01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:40.079
So now we're pointing that that we
are victims of this, Like, come

1166
01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.319
on, we're all suspects of this. I just said that, I said,

1167
01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:46.800
especially you though. Yeah, he
won't point that ship. Okay,

1168
01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:50.439
I said, we all do this. We all do it. And I

1169
01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:54.720
said, yeah, and especially you, and then he goes, I was

1170
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:59.520
being sarcastic, but here he comes. He wanted that point in him.

1171
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:04.960
Don't exactly what's what do you mean? See, we know you're an attagonist,

1172
01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:10.439
You're an ultimate attagonist. You know
that. That's why the show started

1173
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:15.439
off. I did, what do
you think he's Lebron? I'm silly,

1174
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:24.199
You're you're who you said You're silly, So I said, I'm silly.

1175
01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:32.079
He's Captain Lebron. He's right,
we know our roles. He's been Captain

1176
01:33:32.479 --> 01:33:36.720
Curry. Today he is taped to
your boy. You are very inappropriate.

1177
01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:41.039
Okay, that's not inappropriate. But
you just flicked me off, like four

1178
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:47.960
times, flicking off. But but
what's the end? What is the what

1179
01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:55.520
do you think about? Don't think
the laser servesy work laser these Uh.

1180
01:33:59.159 --> 01:34:02.199
The question was put up, is
Michael is Brandon Jennings the number one option?

1181
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:04.880
If Michael Red didn't get hurt.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna

1182
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:10.720
give Brandon Jennings his flowers. Brandon
Jennings is the reason I became a season

1183
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:14.760
ticket holder again in the first place. That's the reason we all did.

1184
01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:17.079
Remember, they were really cheap.
Whenever we bought together, they were really

1185
01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:18.720
cheap. That's it. No,
no, no, we were in the

1186
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:23.720
fourth row. Brandon Jennings had dropped
that double nickel game, and then we

1187
01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:27.039
became season ticket holders. Him and
Andrew Bogan were a big part of the

1188
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:30.359
resurrection of the Bucks. We gotta
give them their flowers. We did not.

1189
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:35.119
Are you you listening to respond?
Just like can I finish? Oh?

1190
01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:38.159
Now you think you oh? Now
you got a magic punch line?

1191
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:42.359
Because I've seen because I've seen this
before, I've watched this show every night.

1192
01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:45.000
I'm not listening to respond. I'm
not. But you can't say I'm

1193
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:48.119
listening to respond because I'm a said
what I'm about to get to responded,

1194
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:51.159
No, but I'm preference. He
asked me a question. Can't but think

1195
01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:55.920
about it before you response. Think
about it before you response, Think about

1196
01:34:55.920 --> 01:35:00.760
what he's saying. If Michael Red
doesn't get it hurt, does Brandon have

1197
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.079
the green light? No, he
doesn't. I was getting to that.

1198
01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:06.840
I was just giving him his flowers
case you wouldn't let me finish. Brandon

1199
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:14.119
Jenny's help resurrect Milwaukee basketball. True
or false? No, I'll give you

1200
01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:18.159
some of the most exciting moments in
basketball during that time was Brandon Jennings,

1201
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:25.079
Michael Red if he doesn't get hurt, Michael Red might be Klay Thompson real

1202
01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:27.880
talk, if he doesn't get hurt. Are you saying both of these guys

1203
01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:30.279
can come to I don't know if
they can come together and be like a

1204
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.399
steph. I think they could have. We would never know because we didn't

1205
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:36.479
get to see it. Mike Red
was the Bucks number one option, and

1206
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:41.439
we know why because of the contract. The contract they they cashed out on

1207
01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:45.520
Michael Red shoot up. They thought
they were getting the next Ray Allen.

1208
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:48.600
So yes, they are very correct. Brandon would have been the third option

1209
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:55.600
after Red. The second option would
have been Andrew Bogan and got rid of

1210
01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:58.760
him. Didn't not at that time. He starts sucking when he broke his

1211
01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:00.880
arm. Remember you were there for
that. Remember he had that Alcuara fall.

1212
01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:04.039
You can hear him screaming when Mark
Startamer. I don't think he was

1213
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:09.800
with us. I don't Mark Stottlemyer
pushed that man there. We could hear

1214
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:16.159
that scream like I could still almost
hear it. M I think that I

1215
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:19.239
think it is true. Don't think
Brandon Jens probably was what he got because

1216
01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:24.039
he was a rookie and he uh, he wouldn't have got the love he

1217
01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:28.279
got if Michael Red had a playball. And the fact that Brandon Jens like,

1218
01:36:28.319 --> 01:36:30.079
nope, nope, I was that
dude. I was that dude.

1219
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:33.640
I would eventually over the team.
Jesus Christ, what tobacco you be smoking?

1220
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:39.000
That's the person you should be absolutely
smoking because he is a hat and

1221
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:43.239
he has Oh yeah, and I
get it. I get it. You

1222
01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:45.279
have to hold your own and get
your flowers stuff like that. But I've

1223
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:50.199
always told you he over Remember he
overestimated his value. He remember he told

1224
01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:55.640
he declared on a national TV show
that he wasn't going to re sign with

1225
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:59.600
the Bucks because he was looking at
bigger markets and he wanted the max contract.

1226
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.960
The Bucks let him walk and Brandon
did not ever get another contract that

1227
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:08.359
he wanted. It was one year
here, one year. There will go

1228
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:12.800
down in history. That's a dude
who beat the loophole and that's it.

1229
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:15.960
That is all he will be known
for. Remember he went overseas. He

1230
01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:21.359
went overseas. Remember they had to
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did

1231
01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:27.640
beat the loophole all he will be
known for. That's crazy, some good

1232
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:30.920
education. I don't think he really
had any big contracts. He never did

1233
01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:32.880
he. I think he signed a
three year deal with Dallas. You know

1234
01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:35.920
he had rap. He left Milwaukee. Detroit signed him for a big deal

1235
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:40.039
Detroit. It wasn't big, it
was it was it was it was less

1236
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:45.520
than what we were gonna offer.
Yes, the Milwaukee market ass like,

1237
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.600
I don't want to be here,
and they think they can go elsewhere and

1238
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:50.279
get better, and come to find
out, Grass is not greener. In

1239
01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:55.920
fact, I think he was cut
for from the Troy when it was he

1240
01:37:56.039 --> 01:37:59.560
signed a three year contract for twenty
five million dollars and that was that was

1241
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:03.520
even less see what the Bucks were
going off for him. But you know

1242
01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:06.880
it's I quiet about that. As
much as he hated it when he was

1243
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:10.760
here, he loves Milwaukee now,
Oh, because we the only thing that

1244
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:13.359
can kind of give him. We
don't think they can't give him flowers.

1245
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:15.680
You know what the crazy party is
though. I typed in Brandon Jenny's contracts

1246
01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:21.760
and the only results I got was
Jennings Asphalt Construction, Jennings Construction, jam

1247
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:26.399
Breemen. He didn't even show his
contracts. Look, yeah, you got

1248
01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:30.399
you got a whole name type him. He ain't staff. That don't make

1249
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:42.239
no sense, ain't who So Brandon
Jennings in his career he's made and ten

1250
01:38:42.399 --> 01:38:47.279
years, let's see here in Brendon
Jennings' career earnings, he didn't do too

1251
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:55.479
bad for himself. He's earned forty
million dollars in his NBA career, forty

1252
01:38:55.600 --> 01:39:02.800
billion dollars and for the little stuff
he did. But then god it at

1253
01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:06.920
forty he probably brought a home twenty
twenty two, twenty three. Help that.

1254
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.800
But you have to also remember he's
also was very different time, different

1255
01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:16.319
time. But he was also very
involved with like graphic design, Like I

1256
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.680
didn't know that until I know his
his his I don't know if it's his

1257
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:23.800
godfather. But a guy that worked
for the clubs was telling us that he

1258
01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:27.760
was involved in like graphic designs.
Who was He helped design some of the

1259
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:31.399
bucks Uh City merchandise. And I'm
sure that comes with money and the other

1260
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:36.159
thing just being in the business.
These appearances these players do even for the

1261
01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:41.600
club. That stuff ain't free.
I bet it ain't. Try to get

1262
01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:46.199
on the podcast whatever. Anyways,
this has been another episode of ninety four

1263
01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:50.920
feet podcast shotter my brother Kesey.
There's been another good one. Good people

1264
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:54.840
show them, brother dre Yo,
it's been fun. Before we go,

1265
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.079
you didn't wrap us up with a
real quick game. Two predictions? Who

1266
01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:00.640
you got tonight? Ze? They
want to do games predictions because we already

1267
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:03.720
did the whole seven. But who
tonight? Who you like tonight to win?

1268
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:08.000
Boston or Dallas? I actually like, I ain't gonna hold just branking

1269
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:13.800
me Boston Keys. Who you like
tonight? Dallas? I like Boston tonight.

1270
01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:15.720
If Boston goes up to well,
don't be surprised if they can pull

1271
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:18.520
off the spot. I think they
come lose to in Dallas. I think

1272
01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:23.319
they come play harder tonight. Yeah, I'm going in twenty eight minutes.

1273
01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:25.960
So no, it's been a good
one. I appreciate the time with my

1274
01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:30.159
brothers talking basketball. You can also
catch us on all streaming platforms. I'm

1275
01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:33.520
sorry, you're gonna just on all
social media platforms, Facebook, Instagram,

1276
01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:38.840
Twitter, TikTok. You guys also
catching on all streaming platforms Apple Podcasts,

1277
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:43.239
Spotify, Google podcast, Freaker,
SoundCloud. Agree with us? Probably not

1278
01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:46.399
this night for a few podcast Baz
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