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It's time for Coffee and Company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
I don't know why, it's it's kind

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of, you know, consuming my
mental capacity right now, which there's not

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a whole lot of capacity there in
general. But twenty point one million people

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watching the Derby is crazy to me, just you know, for comparison,

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here super Bowl one hundred and twenty
three million, no surprise, I mean

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other you know, the other list
here of the most watched sports championships in

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the United States. I mean again, the Super Bowl will never have a

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competitor because it had one hundred and
twenty three million. In second place was

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the College Football National Championship, which
had twenty five million. I mean,

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does anything dominate like the Super Bowl? I mean the NFL dominates in general,

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which it's it is wild because you
can go look at, you know,

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some really good numbers for college basketball
or college football or really anything.

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But I think everybody's now just programmed
to know that, Like, we can't

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look at the NFL number and compare
to that because that's not possible. But

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the Derby twenty point one comes in
at number three here and it's really not

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even close, because the national Championship
in men's basketball has fourteen point eight,

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so a good, a sizable lead
there for the Kentucky Derby. And I

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don't know, whenever we're so locked
into March madness and the NAA tournament,

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especially around here. You know,
if I just you know, if I'm

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just shooting the you know what with
somebody at a bar having a beer watch

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in the second round or something,
and you know, they were to ask

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me, do you think more people
watch, you know, the championship game

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in basketball or the derby? I
would say kidney horse racing nobody cares that

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much. It's a niche sport.
So yeah, the a lot of people

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watch the derby. It's the big
event for horse racing. But no college

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basketball is national championship game. I
mean the NBA Finals, it's got to

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dominate the derby. Well, no, not even close. And blows my

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mind because I just I don't know. If I'm in let's say I'm in

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Texas and John's in you know,
Utah, I just have a hard time

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thinking that there are that many people
that whatever they're doing in Provo, Utah

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or wherever, Texas on Saturday.
They're making it a point to have a

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television in front of them to watch
it. But clearly there are people that

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do that across the world. It'd
be interesting to see like a chart that

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shows like where the most watched cities
and like regions, and so it usually

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is it's always Louisville, then Cincinnati, and then I believe typically in the

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third market is I believe in Florida. So, you know, I think

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because I've been in Louisville my whole
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it's like our thing. I guess
that's why I just have the inability to

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kind of see it for anything anything
other than the way I've seen in my

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whole life around here. Again,
that's why for years when I would go

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where, I would even before I
would go to the derby and work the

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event, and I would just you
know, go to a derby party or

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watch on TV, because you know, that's what a lot of people do

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around here. I would just have
in my mind that ninety percent of the

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people there are from here, and
it couldn't be. It's actually the exact

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opposite. So anyways, hopefully you
guys had yourself. It's a good Derby

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weekend. I am happy to be
back here on the air. I had

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a long weekend myself and did enjoy
a lot of time out there at the

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track. But the one sad thing
that has that's happened is that my son,

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who I've discussed in the last few
weeks, is obsessed with horse racing,

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but he's now old enough to where
you know, he's He used to

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just watch them race and just think
it was the coolest thing ever that those

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wild horses are out there running around
on a track. And then the first

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time he saw turf race, he
was like, they can run on the

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grass. Can we bring them over
here and they can run in our grass?

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And I'm like, I don't think
it works that way, son,

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So you know, it's it's it's
the you know, it's the young innocence,

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right. He just doesn't. But
now he like knows, you know,

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you pick a horse, you bet
on it, and if it doesn't

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win, he's really bummed, you
know, like he even had the you

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know, the self awareness, and
I guess he was just being humble.

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You know. He picked three and
none of them won, so it wasn't

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just one horse. He had all
three of them. And they you know,

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they didn't win, but they were
you know, they think one of

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them came in like fifth or something
in fifth, and you know he was

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bummed. But I did tell him
that, you know, whenever it happens

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when you pick a Derby winner,
it'll the feeling you get, which I've

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never experienced this feeling myself. So
I'm kind of lying to my son here.

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Maybe I'm being a bad father.
I'm just it'll it'll trump the sad

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feeling you get now, because man, maybe it's not next year, maybe

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it's not next year, but the
year after, when you pick the winner

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and you're jumping up and down that
joy you get, it's gonna be worth

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it, man. And I hope
that's true, and hopefully he does end

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up picking the winner. But I
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love the Derby, that are into
it every year that have never picked the

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winner, unless you just decided to
ride that wave that happened recently here where

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a lot of the favorites were winning. But I mean there's twenty horses.

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It's not easy to pick the winner. Especially, you know, when you've

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got a race that is you know, tabbed, is one that it could

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be a variety of a variety of
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So anyways, hopefully you guys had
yourself. It's a good Derby weekend.

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Let's shift gears here talk a little
football, shall we? Some college

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football? We are. I used
to hear it all the time before I

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had a chance to have, you
know, the platform here that I have

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and just you know, yap my
trap here on the radio talking sports.

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I would hear you know, other
people, probably even somebody like Venetti or

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something, they would say, well, you know this, college football is

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just around the corner. College football
season will be here for you know it.

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And it used to piss me off. You know why, John,

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because once we get past Derby,
I mean, for me, there's no

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sport going on now that I really
care about. I'll lightly get into the

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NBA in the playoffs. This is
the kind of unofficial of this, Yes,

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and this I mean again, I
think honestly, college football to Derby

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is kind of when we're on around
here right, like it slows down a

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little bit between college basketball ending and
Derby. But really it didn't feel like

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it this year because obviously it's been
very hectic and you know, both programs

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around here, change the coach,
and now you have free agency season.

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So you know, I really think
that's gonna be the window where you consider

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it being you know, off season
and you know in season. At least

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that's the way that I see it. But these months usually go by super

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slow. So like when people tell
me, oh, it'll be here before

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you know it, right around the
corner. No, we still have three

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four months. Damn it. Don't
tease me, don't lie to me,

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don't patronize me. We're gonna be
sitting here in the humid summer with nothing

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but baseball on what I mean a
line, am I lying? I love

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the baseball jokes because here's the thing
baseball fans, and I hate to say

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this, if you are a baseball
fans, a lot of baseball fans are

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very elitist. They love it absolutely. They love to tell you that they

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know more than you and that's just
the way it is. Yeah, And

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what's funny about that is that the
baseball snobs, you know, they they

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actually do need us because if your
sport continues to just you know, I

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mean, they're always going to going
to exist. I'm not saying Baseball's about

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to die in the sport in the
league's gonna fold. But like they don't

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have anybody that goes to their games. They don't have anybody that watches their

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games. I mean they do,
but like it's blows my mind that they

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that that. You know, like
that's a very lucrative business because again,

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where's all the money coming from,
probably TV contracts and all that. But

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like they don't market their stars.
So there's like, for example, there's

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certain sports that I'm not like,
for example, golf, we got a

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big pgav't coming to town next week. Golf doesn't need me, right like,

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and clearly, no, no,
nobody needs me. But like I

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am a casual fan. Actually I'm
not even a casual fan of golf,

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I'll lied. But they can survive
and thrive with the core that they have

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because there's enough people who are really
into golf and they're big events. Right,

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Baseball, I think their elitist attitude
at times, like they've they've not

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really done much to cater to the
younger crowd that like would never sit and

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watch an entire baseball game. So
there's certain sports that they can they can

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they can go along just fine without
doing a whole lot to bring in new

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eyeballs, right, a new audience. And let me give let me give

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you an example. I think I
think the soccer community, especially in louisll

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does a great job of this.
They know they're gonna get their supporters at

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every game, right, they know
that because the people who are really into

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soccer are really into it. And
if they're big supporters of Racing louisvill or

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Louisville City FC those clubs, then
like they're going to be they're the diehards,

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right. But you know, they
want to have more than just those

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people. They want to be more
welcoming to others. And I think they

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do a really good job at that
to where you know, they're not going

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to be a snob and a you
know, an elitist. They're going to

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understand that. You know, maybe
I can dumb it down for you a

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little, explain it to you and
just you know, to you as someone

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who doesn't know a whole lot about
the sport. You know, I don't

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know if baseball needs to do that, but let's just be real here when

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it comes to just you know,
popularity and overall interest, especially with the

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younger generation, baseball's dying in that
regard. Now, kids still play it

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and they love it. But I
wouldn't be shocked if there are kids who

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are really into baseball to where they
play on a travel team. They're like

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it's a big part of their life
and every weekend they're traveling with their team,

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and they plan to play in high
school and they want to pursue it

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as a career. I mean,
obviously, you know, you need a

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lot of talent and some for you
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to do that. But I would
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that. Kids I should say that
really aren't that tied into like the stars

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of baseball because they don't market their
stars that well. I mean I always

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used to say this, like Mike
Trout at one point was the most Maybe

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he still is, I don't know. At one point, Mike Trout was

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one of the most successful baseball players
in the league. But he could walk

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into a lot of places in this
country and nobody would know who he is.

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And that's just rare. I mean, I know kids that are close

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my close friends children, they're big
into baseball. But when they talk about

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stars like athletes that are celebrities.
They talk about NBA players and they don't

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mean some of these kids don't even
play basketball. So anyways, when I

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interviewed to to uh to not get
this job that I currently have, But

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when I interviewed to join the team
here at iHeart Kelly Carl's legendary program director

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here and was he he he oversaw
not only seven ninety but also h as

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and had a phenomenal career before retiring. He hired me, and I believe

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I was the last person he hired
before he retired. And it was a

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plan thing like he didn't hire me
and say, well, I guess I've

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lost my you know, my ability
to you know, to to to put

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together a good radio program. I'm
gonna call it quits. But anyways,

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he asked me, you know,
will you talk baseball? And I kind

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of probably looked like, you know, deer in the headlights. And I

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was thought about like maybe lying,
and I said, well, probably not.

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You know, I you know,
I can probably brush it up,

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you know a little bit, to
be dangerous enough to maybe you know,

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go back and forth. But I
said, you know, that's not something

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I really know a whole lot about. And I said, to be honest

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with you, I've not really heard
it be a big radio topic before in

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my years listening to sports radio.
And he's looked at me, you know,

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almost like you know, I didn't
know if he was going to tell

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me to get the hell out of
here or I didn't know what he was

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going to say, but he told
me, good, never talk baseball ever.

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And I was like, all right, you know, at that point,

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I didn't even have the job yet, but he was like, don't

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never talk baseball. And ever since
then, it's always stood out to me

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that even in markets where they have
a pro team, they'll mention how the

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team's doing right, They'll they'll they'll
discuss it to an extent, but it's

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just, you know, it's you. I'll move on because I'm sure there

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are people who love baseball that think
this guy needs to shut the hell up.

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With the hell he's talking about.
Baseball is the best, it's America's

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past time. Keep telling yourself that. Anyways, let's talk college football,

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because although it's not, you know, right around the corner, it is,

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you know, I guess the next
sport that'll start that I really care

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about. So DraftKings has now given
us some early lines here on a handful

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of Louisville's games, and I'll start
with the one you know that'll be the

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last game they play, and that
is the Governor's Cup game. And it

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is really silly to see a spread
for a game that is the last game

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of the season. I mean,
like it's just it's I don't know how

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anybody would even, like know what
kind of a line to put out there,

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but it is there on DraftKings,
and you can bet on it if

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you'd like. And once again Louisville
is favored. And I'd say once again

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because they've now lost. I believe
it is five consecutive games to Kentucky and

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the Governor's Cup series. But I'm
pretty sure Louisville has been favored in like

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three of those five. I could
be wrong. So this one, of

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course, will be in Lexington and
on the road. The cards I guess

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have opened here as as slight favorites, which you know objectively, what do

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you think is that a surprise to
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you're as plugged in as you know
everybody else, because you're not a Kentucky

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fan or a Louisville fan. But
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that that's a little surprising with the
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mainly because it's being played in Lexington
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from it. Now, I guess
they're probably basing it off of the roster,

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you know, differences in the turnover
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I really wouldn't know where to set
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say it's a Louisville favorite. Yeah, I mean I I would think that

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this would be a game they would
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it's the last game of the year, I would just assume that, like

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of the games they're going to give
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one. But yeah, I mean
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half or an eight point favorite,
depending on where you were looking right before

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they played Kentucky, which I said
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it after it happened. That's that's
that was an ald timer. I mean,

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like that's the one game like that
you you just shouldn't have lost.

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I mean they were done with their
coach. He told them the pony up.

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Their season seemingly fell apart. They
hadn't be they I'd never heard Kentucky

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fans less confident in their team against
Louisville. And it wasn't really because they

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thought Louisville was scary, but like
they hated their team, you heard it,

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John, They hated them like they
thought you know, I mean,

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they were very critical of Stoops at
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see because he's a made man.
I don't think they wanted him fired,

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but you know, they were finally
holding him to a higher standard, and

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and they were supposed to be you
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they'd be really good, and they
were very underwhelming disappointed they got they you

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know, they end up losing to
Tennessee and they end up losing to South

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Carolina, who stunk last year.
Missouri ended up being really good, but

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you know, the time before the
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So they were lifeless. They hated
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their coach. And then Louisville comes
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ten wins, already being favored Brom's
first year, they'd already clinched the ACC

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championship game and then they they they
lost, which is still as painful to

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even think about. But I bet
there's nobody that's felt more pain from that

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loss than Jeff Bram himself. So
maybe that maybe that's a factor here in

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this, in this uh, this
this early spread because I I mean,

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I think Jeff brom uh will have
his team ready when they play at the

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end of November, when you know
when this matchup happens. But it's just

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so crazy. I mean, you
could have a key player injured for both

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teams or something. You just don't
know. It's impossible to know that far

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down. But uh yeah, Louisville
favored by just a point here according to

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uh to DraftKings some other games that
have an early line here for Louisville.

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When they do travel south to South
Bend to take on Notre Dame, that'll

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be September twenty eighth, they opened
up as a ten point dog. That

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surprises me. I would have not
expected him to be that big of an

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underdog at Notre Dame. Notre Dame, I mean, they're coming off a

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fine season, but I mean Louisville
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they kind of dominated that game.
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it was one of those games where
it just felt like the perfect scenario for

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Louisville, right, you know,
broms unbeaten up to that point, Notre

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Dame's coming to town, a top
ten team, it's a sellout. I

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mean, there was a lot.
I mean, that was a perfect way

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for Louisville. Really felt almost like
the Florida State game when when the Lamar

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Jackson, you know, seemingly won
the Heisman in Week three. But yeah,

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I would have expected it to see
close. I would have if I

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had to guess what the line would
be for Louisville Notre Dame, I would

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have said Notre Dame minus six and
a half. But it is right now

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ten points. And then the other
game that they have an early line for

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is when the Cards go to take
on Clemson. They play them on November

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two. This is the first time
they've played Clemson in a few years,

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a couple of years, i should
say, and they are nine and a

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half point underdogs in that one.
So you know that that's some surprise to

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see them, that they're this big
of underdogs. In those two games,

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Notre dameing Clemson. But I'm also
a little surprised to see that they're favored

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in the Kentucky matchup. But then
again, you know, Louisville, like

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last year, clearly Kentucky beat them, and like that was there. I

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mean, that's Mark Stoop's biggest win
of his career. Like that's not me

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claiming we're your super Bowl. Like
he's never beat a top ten team on

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the road before, so I don't
think he's ever beat a road team on

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I don't think he's ever beat a
ranked team on the road ever. So

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it was huge. But like by
all objective measures, everybody would say Louisville

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was a better team last year,
But you know, I know it doesn't

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matter when you line up and play, and you know, so I get

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it, like they lost, Kentucky
deserves to be chesty and arrogant because like

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that's the one loss that's a Louisville
fan you don't want to have that.

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I mean, you never want to
lose to your rival, but to have

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it set up the way that it
did and then come up short, it

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was the ultimate punch to the gut. But I think most people would say,

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hey, they played ten times last
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more than five. And therefore,
and I'm not saying that's for sure true,

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but I'm just trying to, I
guess, figure out how they would

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would have Louisville favored here. But
again, it's just it's so far away,

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like it's I mean, it's a
year away. Yeah, all right,

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quick break, we'll come back on
the other side. Talk some more

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about the transfer portal here as is
Indiana done, they have any spots left

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if they get hatt and they'll have
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Kentucky each have like fourish five spots
left, and you know, there's players

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available, but I would be willing
to bet that the majority of the of

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the of the last five guys that
end up on these two teams, I'd

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say the majority of them, you
know, which would mean three essentially are

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going to be names that you really
weren't that familiar with, which, hey,

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that doesn't mean that you know you're
not gonna have a good team.

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But I think when you see the
best players available and you still have that

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many spots available, I think both
fans Louisville and Kentucky fans are you know,

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hoping and praying that you know,
their coaches can land some of these

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guys that you know would be big
additions. This laid into the cycle.

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All right, quick break, we'll
come back on the other side. Keep

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it rolling along. It is coffee
and Company, and we are fueled about

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Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven
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rolling along here on a Monday afternoon. I said this at the beginning of

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the show. I do feel like
locally, it would be understandable if in

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fact, everybody just decided, you
know, local businesses and I don't know,

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there are some places that can never
close, but you know, the

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day off after derby weekend would be
something I think a lot of locals would

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would appreciate just that extra day or
really to get recharged and ready to go.

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But you know, if it was
a day that was given to a

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lot of a lot of employ a
lot of people in the area, we

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probably still be asked to work,
wouldn't we. Yeah, this would be

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something we get a comp day for. Just like if the Super Bowl ever

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became a national holiday, meeting the
day after it would be a comp day

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for us. But again, I
can't explain it. Comp days always just

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feel like I'm getting a freebe I
love it. I do too, And

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you know, it actually just adds
up to everybody getting the same dates,

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Like you know, they took that
day off for that holiday, and we

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get it on the back end because
we worked, Like if you know,

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Columbus Day, whatever other day is
it actually are comp days. But I

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guess because we get to kind of
choose. Yeah, that's that's why I

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guess it feels as if we're like
we're getting over on the man. You're

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taking the holiday and putting it where
you're Yeah, exactly. I mean,

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heck, I've used I think if
we don't ever take them, meaning like

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we choose to work whenever we have
the option to either take the day off

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for the holiday or work. Is
it three that we usually end up getting

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four four? I think it's four
two because what that ends up giving me

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is like it gives me I think
five weeks vacation minus one day because and

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that's I mean, it's I mean, I guess I've been here long on

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to where you know, maybe I'm
very lucky to have this job in general.

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I mean it's crazy that we get
paid to do this, but the

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amount of vacation I have, would
you say that I'm asking somebody that's younger,

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that you know, has not is
experienced in the professional workforce, but

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to have roughly four, you know, take away the comp days four weeks

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for working somewhere for eight years.
I feel like, I mean, I

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feel like that's good. It seems
good. I don't know what the standard

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is, Yeah, I mean that
seems good. I love it, you

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know. And I was gonna think
of another way to suck up and kiss

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ass, but you know, we've
kind of already done that enough. So

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thank you for our vacation, our
comp days and everything. We we are

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forever grateful for you. iHeartMedia.
All right, let's switch gears here and

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talk some basketball because right now,
according to ESPN's top one hundred players in

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the transfer portal, twenty two of
those one hundred are available and have yet

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to decide on a newsal. And
some of them are names that you're familiar

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with. Some of them are names
that I think either school would would feel

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like. You know, when I
say either school, I mean Louislle,

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Kentucky. Because again, if you
think about it, It is rare that

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that that we really are having the
exact offseason. You know, it's the

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same exact offseason, are we not? Like Louisville fans and Kentucky fans are

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going through literally the exact same thing. The only difference is is that,

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you know, Louisville's coming off of
a disastrous two year run with Kenny Payne,

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and Kentucky, you know, was
underwhelmed with Calip Perry and that thing

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had run its course in Arkansas saved
him, but starting from scratch building a

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team with I mean, I think
Kentucky has one has one player that that

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is that is entering college right now. That's a freshman. That's the kid

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from I can't think of his name, kid who played out in Line County,

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Travis Perry. But everybody else that's
on their team as a transfer,

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I think Mark Pope is he bringing
any transfers. He's bringing the kid the

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Colin Cowherd kid of the Mormon Mission, Colin wool, Colin Chandler. But

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he he's he's coming over with Pope, but he didn't play because of his

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two year mission trip. So you
know, both schools in similar situations,

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and you know, I think both
schools feel pretty good about where their roster

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is right now, all things considered, but neither of them are getting much

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loved nationally. I don't mean I'm
not totally surprised by that, but you

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know, despite both teams now having
eight guys or maybe nine guys, I

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think Louisville might have nine now Kentucky
mayava. But either way, these early

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preseason rankings and even the early bracketology
like neither team is mentioned, which again

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that's not that doesn't blow my mind, but I think both fan bases actually

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feel like, you know, what
they have is better than the way it's

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better than then most people see it
as. But I mean this is the

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ultimate unknown, I mean the ultimate
unknown a coach that let's be real,

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if you're a Kentucky fan, you
were watching a lot of BYU I mean,

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where would you where would you watch
BYU games? I mean, I

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know they were in the the Big
Twelve this past year, so they have

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some games that were on ESPN,
But let's be honest, b YU had

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a lot of games on ESPN plus
because of the Big Twelve and their relationship

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with ESPN. I'd be a liar
if I said I watched a bunch of

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college at Charleston games. I didn't. I mean they were on I saw

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him a couple of times this year. But you know, I think both

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coaches have done a really good job
of getting the fan base. Fan base

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is excited about, you know,
this fresh start, but we're going to

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be learning a lot about these guys
as actual basketball coaches right out of the

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gate. Because again, it's not
as if you've watched Mark Pope or Pat

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Kelcey like you know, year in
and year out, because he's coaching in

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the same conference as you, or
he's coaching a program that you see on

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national TV every other night or something
like that. So throw in that with

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a bunch of new players that are
all transferring from across the country. I

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mean, this is the ultimate unknown. I think there's plenty of reasons to

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be optimistic on both sides. You
know, I've talked about it. I

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think Louisville's current roster, yes,
there's pieces to add, and one big

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piece that would be a phenomenal edition
is is great Osibor. But I think

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right now they've got a core roster
that I feel pretty good about. But

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I'm not going to be that guy
that act as if I'm saying, Okay,

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this is probably like a second weekend
team, have no clue. I

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mean maybe when we get closer to
actually, you know, seeing this team

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in action, maybe when the roster
is in fact completely finished, I'll feel

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a little more comfortable, or maybe
the better way to describe it is,

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I'll probably feel a little less foolish
acting as if I can tell you in

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any way, if this team is
going to be really good, kind of

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good, kind of bad. I
mean, no, nobody's gonna know.

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But because it's new, there is
a new era here, and some of

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these guys, like you know,
they've transferred in. For example, CHUCKI,

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heburn like he's a good player.
He made He was a very impactful

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player for a team that you know, they weren't elite. But Wisconsin's been

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00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.480
better than Louis in the last couple
of years, that's for sure. So

409
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.240
anyways, here are the big names
still out there. We talked about great

410
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:14.319
Osibor, who is visiting Texas Tech
I believe today, and then he'll have

411
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.279
his last visit to Washington. He
visited Kentucky, but we know Kentucky's not

412
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.759
going to be in the mix here
because they've already take they've already added other

413
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.279
front court players. And while he
was finishing his visit in Lexington, it

414
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:30.279
became I guess official that they're not
even like the two sides are going in

415
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.880
different directions. So then he visits
Louisville. I didn't hear anything good or

416
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:36.839
bad about the visit. I didn't
even see. I mean, I think

417
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:40.519
the one picture that surfaced on social
media from his visit was him and his

418
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:44.319
family walking into Churchill Downs with Pat
Kelsey. But it's a picture from like

419
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.680
twenty yards behind. So he he
doesn't post a lot on social media.

420
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.000
Therefore, it's not as if you
can screenshot all of his Instagram stories,

421
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:53.680
like, I don't think he does
that stuff, and if you know,

422
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.359
and if he does, I haven't
seen any of it. So the silence,

423
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.960
I think is has people a little
bit worried. Maybe there's reason to

424
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.440
worry, but I also think that
this is someone that you're not really going

425
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:10.079
to hear anything about until he makes
a decision. And I'd say Louisville is

426
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.160
in play here, But your guess
is as good as mine, as far

427
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.519
as you know, if their view, if they're believed to be the favorite

428
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.400
here or I mean, will they
offer more money than Washington? I mean,

429
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:22.640
will it come down to that.
I don't know. Again, there's

430
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.559
not a whole lot of transparency with
some of these guys in the portal and

431
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.720
their recruitment. But I mean,
if you go back to the beginning,

432
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.599
I mean, Osibor was I believe
as soon as I don't even know how

433
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.119
it had happened, but because I
don't know what the connection was. But

434
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.359
as soon as he hit the portal, all the noise was that he was

435
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:42.599
going to go to Kentucky like they
felt like they already had him. Again,

436
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.039
I don't even know what the connection
was. Well, then you find

437
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.519
out that, you know, he
is considering Kentucky, but then he's going

438
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.559
to visit Louisville. And I don't
think at that point anybody even knew that

439
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.039
Louisville was involved there. So just
because it's been quiet, I don't think

440
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:59.880
that means that you should be worried. But i'd also, you know,

441
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.640
be a liar if I said,
you know, I have a great feeling

442
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.599
that this is going to mean,
I have no clue. Again, your

443
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.720
guess is as good as mine.
But he would be a huge addition,

444
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.559
no doubt. All Right, some
other players Kadari Richmond, he is the

445
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:14.680
transfer from Seaton Hall, and I
know Louisville. I'm not sorry, not

446
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.240
Louisville, Kentucky was linked to him
at some point. I mean, this

447
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:19.119
is a guy who I guess it
depends on where you look, because as

448
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.200
we've discussed, all these rankings are
like way different. Some people have a

449
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.240
guy, you know, one of
the top five players in the portal overall,

450
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.079
and then you'll look at another outlet
that says he's like the fiftieth best

451
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.759
player, Like I mean, that's
probably a little bit of an exaggeration,

452
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.640
but Kadari Richmond is is viewed to
be I mean, I've watched him play

453
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.200
enough at Seaton Hall to know that, like, whoever gets him is getting

454
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:44.920
a really really good player. But
I guess, kind of like Osibor,

455
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.240
there's there's not a whole lot of
transparency here as far as what he you

456
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.359
know, what's going on, what
he's doing. And maybe this is just

457
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:59.319
me being you know, cynical,
but I feel like when that happens,

458
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.559
it's because agents are just seeing who's
gonna pay the most money. Like there's

459
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.440
not a whole lot of traction because
they want to see who's gonna who's gonna

460
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:07.640
stand on business? Right John,
That's what they want to see. That

461
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.519
that's what the recruit, That's what
these guys want to know, who's gonna

462
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:17.160
stand on business. So Saint John's
Rick Patino has been believed to be,

463
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.839
you know involved here. In fact, I think as soon as he hit

464
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.559
the portal, everybody said that's where
Richmond was going to end up. But

465
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.440
that hasn't happened yet, which makes
me think maybe they're not. Maybe they're

466
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.400
not standing on business the way that
that that Richmond and his agent would want.

467
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.599
And you never know, davey on
Smith going to Saint John's, maybe

468
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.880
that impacts where Richmond would want to
go. But of the other players that

469
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.200
again are still available, uh,
DJ Wagner he's listed here is one of

470
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.200
the top guys that's still available,
and I haven't heard anything about him other

471
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:53.880
than it's either going to be Arkansas
or USC. So apparently his girlfriend plays

472
00:29:53.880 --> 00:30:02.599
for USC. And the Nike connection
there is is still strong, which man

473
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:04.480
of all that we talked about it
and this is not to pick on the

474
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.400
kid, but like of all the
other athletes, they got a Nike deal,

475
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.559
like an nil deal. I mean, DJ Wagner was like the least

476
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:17.039
impactful player of those five by like
a billion and yet apparently he's still as

477
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.920
strongly connected in Ike and that could
be why he ends up at USC or

478
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.920
maybe because it's his girlfriend. But
I just feel like if he was gonna

479
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.720
go would you say, if if
Wagner was going to follow cald Arkansas,

480
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.640
like he already would have done it, right, Yeah, I don't know

481
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.119
what the hold up would be at
this point. By the way, speaking

482
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:36.640
of following cald Arkansas, a do
Theierro, which I feel like all I'd

483
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.920
heard was that the last place he
would go is anywhere that Cali Perry was.

484
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.920
Like I'd always I thought that things
had soured with the dou Thierro to

485
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.759
where he was gonna If cal was
back in Lexing, then he wouldn't be

486
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.160
there. Well, now he's going
to follow him to Arkansas, which is

487
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.079
kind of a surprise considering the fact
that you know Hubert Davis in North Carolina,

488
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.039
they were all in on him.
Hubert Davis, I think, made

489
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.240
two trips to Lexington in the last
week just to meet with Thierro trying to

490
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:06.000
convince him to come to Carolina.
Pittsburgh was involved, Indiana was recruiting him

491
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.960
at some point, but he is
reunited with Caliperi, Colemenhawkins, the Illinois

492
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.279
transfer, He's still available. But
all I mean it sounds as if that's

493
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.000
like he's somebody that would not come
back to college, unless I guess the

494
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.400
NBA told him that he has no
business in the league, which maybe they

495
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.440
do tell him that, I'm not
sure. And then another name that maybe

496
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:32.640
you start to hear more about Louisville
being involved is Agana Yensu. I'm saying

497
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.720
that right Ugo, Yes, Kentucky
fans would call him he hit the portal,

498
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.680
and Louisville was, I believe,
one of the first schools to reach

499
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.480
out to him, according to On
three Sports, And then it sounds like

500
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:49.319
Alabama became the leader. And then
they just added another big guy yesterday.

501
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.440
So now people think that Ugo will
not end up at Alabama. So maybe

502
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:57.839
Louisville gets back involved there because they
clearly need some front court players. There's

503
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.759
no doubt about that. But I
will continue to say this again disclaimer,

504
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:08.799
they need somebody like Osibor or even
Ugo, just to give them more depth

505
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.960
in the front court. But I
will say this, James Scott, the

506
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.599
guy one of the two that followed
Kelsey from Charleston, I think no matter

507
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.279
who you bring in, he is
going to be somebody that has a not

508
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.640
a monster role, but has a
vital like he's going to play a lot

509
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.160
of minutes, probably off the bench
guy. If you were to land somebody

510
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.319
like Osibor, but I don't know, maybe you play those two guys together,

511
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.799
but I'm not as worried like if
they end up getting a couple of

512
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.480
bigs, but it's not it's not
Osibor, and it's not somebody who has

513
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.759
had a lot of production where they're
coming from. I mean, yeah,

514
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.559
that wouldn't be ideal. But I
really think that James Scott is going to

515
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.160
be regardless who you bring in.
I think he will have a role where

516
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:58.839
he's playing twenty twenty two minutes a
game. And you know the way that

517
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.640
Kelsey likes to play a lot,
you know, four out one end,

518
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:07.079
sometimes they do five out like I
think, you know, if they're running

519
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.039
and they love to run. I
mean, he's a guy that is above

520
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:15.839
the rim really good athlete runs the
floor. I mean hard to really know

521
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.640
what to make of it when he
was coming off the bench in the in

522
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.240
the CIA. But I think he's
gonna be I think he's got a chance

523
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.359
to be a pretty good player here. But with that said, they still

524
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.400
need to add some other guys.
I mean, he can't be the only

525
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.039
big guy you have out there.
All right, quick break, we'll come

526
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.240
back on the other side. Keep
this thing rolling along. I do want

527
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.240
to get back into the Tom Brady
roast that was on Netflix last night,

528
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.559
so I've not finished it yet.
I watched about I don't know an hour

529
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.960
of it. It's three hours long, but it's all I continue to see

530
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.720
people talking about on social media.
Dan Patrick talked about it a lot today

531
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.400
on his show, and it so
far, I mean, it's hilarious.

532
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.720
I'm somebody that gets a little uncomfortable
when you know somebody's getting roasted, because

533
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.519
you know, even though it's funny, I'm like, damn, that's really

534
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.680
mean. I hope he doesn't go
home and himself to sleep. But other

535
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:07.079
celebrity, other other athletes, like
I don't That's what That's what Dan Patrick

536
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.360
was talking about, Like which athlete
is gonna be next. I don't think

537
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.000
they would do it. I give
Tom Brady a lot of credit, like

538
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.199
I don't know if it was worth
it, but anyways, quick break will

539
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.559
come back on the other side.
Keep this thing rolling along. Coffee and

540
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.199
Company taking you up till six o'clock
right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

541
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.039
So I didn't mention this at any
point today. I guess, to be

542
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.159
honest with you, I kind of
forgot about it. But Lowell did add

543
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.599
another player kind of in the last
four days or so this pee. I

544
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.480
think this news came out on Thursday. But they've added another player from Charleston

545
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:43.000
who was not expected to play this
year. Is going a red shirt,

546
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.320
so it's another guard. So it
doesn't address the uh, the real need

547
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:52.519
they have for front court depth.
But Kobe Rogers averaged just under ten ten

548
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.840
a game nine point seven points last
year for Pat Kelsey at Charleston, but

549
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.480
he's expected to set out the entire
year because I don't know if it was

550
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.960
an acl but he got a hurt. Terrible luck for this young man.

551
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.199
He got hurt in the Alabama game
when they played in the NSTAA tournament and

552
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.960
is going to come to Louisville,
will be on scholarship, but we'll rehab

553
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.639
his injury in red shirt. So
this is now the second player that is

554
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.239
expected to red shirt this this upcoming
season. Which look, I know you

555
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.360
need guys to play, and you
know they still need to add guys as

556
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:30.000
we speak right now, but I
have no problem with using scholarships for guys

557
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.360
that are red shirting injuries that you
know, like, I'd rather you do

558
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.559
that then go bring like then give
a scholarship to a walk on, because

559
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.840
this is somebody that again won't be
able to play this year because of an

560
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.199
injury, but they're going to be
with your team, you know. I

561
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.599
mean with Ali Khalifa from BYU,
that's somebody that is going to be new

562
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:51.159
to the system and just like most
of the other guys, but with with

563
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.199
you know, with Kobe Rogers here, this is a guy who played for

564
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.679
Pat Kelsey last year, so he's
not new to Pat Kelsey so and looks

565
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.719
like he could be a pretty good
play a player for him. This is

566
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.960
somebody from Cincinnati, which of course
that's where Kelsey's from. Two. I

567
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.440
don't know if that's the connection,
but he started his career as a Division

568
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.639
two player at a school called Nova
Southeastern. Well, they ended up winning

569
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.519
the Division two national championship two years
ago and went undefeated. They did not

570
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.679
lose a game, so he was
a national champion on that team, averaged

571
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.440
averaged about let's see here, looks
like when he was at Nova Southeastern he

572
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.760
averaged about twelve points I'm sorry,
thirteen points, four rebounds to assist,

573
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.440
two steals. Really effective. And
then this past year, you know,

574
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.000
averaged just under double figures for Pat
Kelsey at Charleston. So you know,

575
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.800
getting a guy that can help you
right now because of his injury situation.

576
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.679
But I said, since day one, as soon as it started to really

577
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:51.840
look as if Louisville was going to
be building an entirely new team, it's

578
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.400
just knowing you can you can,
you know, use the portal to do

579
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:59.679
that. I just think when you
get to spot ten, eleven, twelve,

580
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.559
third team, and I hate to
call it that because if you let's

581
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:05.239
say, like let's say, great
Osibor ends up being a guy who commits

582
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.400
to you in a month, I
mean technically he'd be the last guy in

583
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:08.960
the fold, but we all know
he'd be somebody that you probably paid more

584
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.159
money for than anybody on your team. So you know, the way in

585
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.480
which they come in as far as
commitments, the order is not you know

586
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.440
how they're actually going to be,
you know, ranked, which they're not

587
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.000
going to be ranked. But my
point is this, I just think when

588
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.920
you've already got a team that it
looks as if, you know, it's

589
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:29.360
maybe a little crowded at certain positions, I think it's gonna be really hard

590
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:34.159
to sell somebody who knows they could
go elsewhere and probably walk into a starting

591
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.280
spot. Not to say they couldn't
do that here, but you know,

592
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.360
I just think those last few spots
were always going to be tough to sell.

593
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.440
So I think it's a perfect scenario
to bring in guys that you know

594
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.199
they're fine with not having. I
mean, they can't play this year,

595
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.039
so they're not as worried about it
being crowded. They'll they'll rehab and you

596
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:50.840
know, in year two of the
pack, hell's here, that's where they

597
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.159
can they can they can come in
and help you. So that's a good

598
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.159
question that came in on the text
line earlier that I hadn't given any any

599
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.599
thought to, uh, And I
don't I don't know the answer to it.

600
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.639
But Emanuel A Corra four, this
is somebody who, like everybody else,

601
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:13.239
transferred and he's the one player for
Kenny Payne that I will say,

602
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.360
Like I hed he joined the team
mid season, if you remember during his

603
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:22.159
during Kenny's first year, and just
brought life to the floor, like he

604
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.000
played with energy, effort, enthusiasm, which you know, those are all

605
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.599
corny things that you usually really talk
about when somebody doesn't have a whole lot

606
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.360
of talent, but like, he
brought energy, right, he was tough,

607
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.320
physical, and then I don't I
mean, I'm not saying he's a

608
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.719
great player, but the fact he
did not get minutes last year for Kenny

609
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.199
blew my mind because I mean,
at times, man, it was so

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bad. You just want anybody out
there that's gonna try, and he seemed

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to be. I mean, this
is this is how bad things were,

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John, Like, let's put this
guy in the game. We know he

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will at least try. Like that's
how bad it was at times for Louisville.

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So somebody's asked if he would consider
coming back, Like where is he

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gonna end up? I have no
clue, but you know, if he

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would want to come back, and
Pat Kelsey would like to add him as

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somebody do again give you more depth
in the front court. I think that

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would be I mean, they'd be
fine by me. But I would say

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if there was any realistic chance of
that happening, I would say that we

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would probably already know that, like
it would be, it'd be known.

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But yeah, there's two guys that
I have not heard anything about when it

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comes to where they're going to end
up, and that is Tyler Johnson and

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Emanuelo Corrifor haven't heard a single thing. Everybody else I believe is already landed

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elsewhere. So and Tyler Johnson was
I mean, at times he was your

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best player. The fact that he
is not, I don't know what's going

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on with him. And again,
as we've discussed with some of these transfers

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that we're desperate to get an update
on, just because there's not a whole

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lot out there doesn't mean that you
know they're not talking to schools. Heck,

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they could be taking visits and it's
just not getting reported because they're keeping

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it quiet. But I thought Tyler
or would have a lot of options,

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and maybe he does, but it's
just been completely silent. I mean,

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I thought, if you watched Louisville
during the mess that was the last two

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years, and you're a coach,
even if you played against him, and

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you're a coach like I think you
would know, Okay, Louisville is stunk.

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But I would I'd be interested in
adding this guy, Tyler Johnson because

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he's a playmaker, man. And
you know, I don't. I don't

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think there's a scenario he ends up
back at Louisville. But him and Okora

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four of the two that I haven't
heard anything about, and I believe every

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other player has since landed at a
school. All right, let's let's get

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a quick break out of the way. We've got another hour to go.

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We'll finish strong here. Keep it
locked. It is coffee and Company.

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