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Hey, everyone, quick little prologue
to this one. I'm recording this in

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the summertime. Summer sometimes summertime is
known as rerun season. This isn't necessarily

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a rerun. It's a revisiting of
an episode that I released three years ago.

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A little over three years ago from
the time that I am speaking right

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now and three years ago, the
world was in a weird, weird place.

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And one of my favorite episodes that
we do on this show is a

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feature called X's and h So we
have not done one in a while,

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and I'm going to release one that
we did once before for two reasons.

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First of all, it is co
hosted by my friend Jilly Kimmel, Jimmy's

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Jimmy's sister, who's just as talented
and just as funny. And secondly,

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when I recorded this, I remember
she came into the studio and she had

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just gotten something called a COVID shot. She was felt so liberated because she's

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like, it's a life changer for
me, and we can debate what that

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did for anybody overall, but it
was a different time then. A lot

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of people were revisiting old relationships,
which is one of the themes of this

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episode. I think you're gonna enjoy
it. If you have heard it before,

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that means you are a very,
very loyal listener of The Great Love

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Debate because it's over probably three and
a half years ago, and I really

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appreciate that. If you have not
heard this one before, oh boy,

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are you gonna like it. So, without further ado, here we go,

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Hi again, I wants Brian Howie. Welcome to The Great Love Debate,

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the world's number one dating and relationship
podcast since twenty fifteen. You guys

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have been waiting for this episode for
a long long time. We haven't done

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it in a while. It's time
to play one of our favorite things around

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here x's and uh ohs. And
if you guys, let me talk about

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why why this one's going to be
really good. It's because over the last

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year, a lot of people have
been spending either way too much time communicating

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with their exes or thinking about their
exes, and a lot of that was

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because of COVID and people got bored
and they were shut down and they're either

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reminiscing or thinking about things or whatever. So if you guys don't remember what

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exes and u oh's is, it's
where we ask you guys to send us

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in emails some of you send them
you a Facebook or whatever, that if

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you had one more thing to say, one more conversation to have with your

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ex in search of the elusive closure, this would be the thing you wanted

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to say. And you guys sent
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got the stuff that you guys are
thinking about in terms of your exes,

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the stuff that you guys hold on
to, the stuff that you want to

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know, is really nuts. So
I sifted through a bunch of them.

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But I always have to have a
pro to do this. The reason we

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don't do this more often is because
I don't. I don't have a worthy

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co host all the time in the
house to handle it. But fortunately I

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have somebody well I have some access
to. Before she flees to California,

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we're taping this in Arizona, but
she's she's one of the only people leaving

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Arizona for California. Everybody else from
California is moving here. She's a comedian,

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she's a bon vivante. She's known
as Jilly Pie. Back by popular

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demand, Jill Kimmel, I have
known as Jilly Pie. Thanks for letting

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everybody know. Yeah, she's back, probably like five or six episodes ago.

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And people are like, you need
to have her back on, and

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I'm like, I don't want to
have her back on to talk about her

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personal life. I need to have
her back on to talk about your personal

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life. So this is so much
better like this, I want to end

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up in tears. I might,
depending on how deep I get into character,

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I m'd end up in tears.
Here. We'll see. So you

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are you? Are? You?
Do you understand the rules here? You

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understand how this works? I do? But maybe should you explain it for

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those? So I'm going to so
I have three that we chose that were

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from the guys, and you have
three that we chose that are from the

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girls. You are going to read
those to me as if you were this

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TROUBLEDX girlfriend. I'm going to answer
them as if I were their boyfriend,

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and vice versa, and you can
you can take whatever tone you want with

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them. I don't care. You
can say you're an idiot fuck off.

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I don't care how you handle this. I don't know how much you get

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caught up in character, and if
something triggers you inside, have as it.

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So I do get caught up in
characters. So I feel like I'm

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gonna just kind of do this,
you know, like one of those mediums

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or somebody would just kind of open
your brain to the vibe. And I'm

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gonna, like when you read a
letter from real people to me, I'm

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going to try to like get into
why I really think that the girlfriend may

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have done this whatever the question is
right, And and some of you sent

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in like three pages. Some of
you were like, this is not therapy.

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Some of you were like three thousand
words on it, and I'm like,

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you're mad, right, So if
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to say to your ex and it
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want to get an editor because they
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gonna help. Yeah, I know
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this is so get to the point. Your ex has a date,

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so they need to get on with
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would you rather serve or receive?
I will receive, you will receive name

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that tune. Okay, there we
go. This one is from Jonathan from

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Duluth, Georgia. And let me
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because I have a brother named Jonathan, so how does he spell it the

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right way? Okay? J O
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There's like three errors in there.
I'm gonna just tell you she broke

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up with you. Yeah, you
want to pain in the ass, Like,

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why wouldn't you change that? It's
Jonathan. It's a lot of non

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traditional spell and I checked it because
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a typo, but no, it
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O h n A T t h
o N. You went wrong like three

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different ways or your parents? Did
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it's his email was did he write
his name like that at the bottom or

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is this like the whatever Jonathan at
something? No, it was a Jonathan

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dot like something with his last name. You know who you are. Let

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me look at let me just see
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Maybe maybe it's like a running joke, you know how some people are

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like let's raise money at the Jonathan. Yeah, Well, my little brother

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always says it's th h a N. It's Jonathan. I'm not a race.

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It's not Jonathan, it's j O
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That is the right way, Yes, I know that's the right and and

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people who do that. I brought
this up on the podcast before. If

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you spell your name, I'm not
gonna say in correctly, but non traditionally,

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you have to give people a break
if they fuck it up. Sorry,

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if you're Britney with like silent Stephanie
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you're gonna have to cut some people
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Okay, so this is Jonathan from
Duluth, Georgia. You said I made

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you understand what a healthy relationship could
feel like, that you were tired of

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dating assholes and narcissists and I was
the first guy who ever made you feel

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special. And then after nine months
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but I hear you went back to
your ex. Were you lying to me

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or lying to yourself? I wasn't
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mean, are you gonna laugh or
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this is kind of what you did
the whole nine months? Sy Okay,

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are you are you gonna let me
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this is what you did to me
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You did make me feel special at
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like everything I said you would laugh, and and I did feel special,

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like, oh, he thinks I'm
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became like you're not ever serious about
anything, and I felt like you weren't

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serious about me. You just laugh
everything off and oh this is fun.

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And at first, yeah, it
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you know, you get a few
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to realize I miss like the real
life, the reality. I miss someone

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having an argument with me because they
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you just agreed with me about everything. And I don't need a yes man

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in my life. I need a
real man. And I'm sorry that I

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went back to the ex, but
really being with you made me see that

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maybe some of the stuff I was
doing in my ex relationship was what was

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wrong. And I did grow from
being with you. I did learn things,

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but also what I learned was that
I really missed my ex. And

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I don't want to tell you this, like this way, but I'm just

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gonna we're gonna be getting married in
a few months. See, there you

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go, there you go. See
that took oak by Jonathan. That was

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very very good. Oh wow,
a couple of things here, Okay,

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go on. So now we're out
of character. I think, yeah,

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what a lot of people do.
So, Jonathan, she broke up with

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you. It has nothing to do
with them. So it wasn't like you

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or them. She didn't want to
be with you or anyone or anyone at

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that point. And a lot of
times when people are like I think it

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makes the guy lazy. When the
girls, like when the girl says something

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like, oh my god, everybody
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wonderful, it makes the guy sort
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little bit, like, at least
I'm better than those guys. She's like,

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the bar was so low that they
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way better. And you know,
he might have slipped back into that.

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I don't know, you know,
you know, you never know, Like

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I actually think maybe the ex saw
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and flourishing, and maybe he saw
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like changed and came back and apologized, and that's all she really wanted.

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She didn't want Jonathan nice guy.
She wanted her ex to be a nice

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guy to her right. Yes,
I understand that. Another podcast we produce

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around here is called what's it called? It's on the Wall Flirt with Tawny

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Blake. She did she look that
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about narcissism and a lot of times
every girl's like, oh my god,

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my ex boyfriend was a narcissist.
Don't It's a lazy code word that everybody

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used. And she took a deep
dive on and it was really good if

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you want to, if you want
to look into that. But a lot

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of times people bad mouth their exes
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It's almost like I'm complimenting you by
picking on them, and maybe when they

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get some distance from that, those
people really weren't so bad. I don't

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know. Yeah, Or it's a
way to bring up what you want a

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relationship without so much just going this
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I'm not telling you what I need
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I'm not like I'm just saying that
my ex was this way and it's an

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easy way to not just come out
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I was, actually, I'm talking
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jokes about different things, and like
I was on my way over here actually

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today and he sent me a picture
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was like, oh, and I
took picture of myself. I said same,

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and he like zoomed in on this
one little gray hair that I had

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and like sent it back to me
and I was like, and then he's

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like, your eyes are beautiful,
and I go, you know what.

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I was like, we haven't even
met. We're just like talking like are

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you is insults? Like the way
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I would have just been like,
oh my god, thing is a strategy,

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and I thought, I'm not doing
that. I'm not doing that.

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I'm not allowing that to happen to
me. I'm not gonna take that.

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And I said something I spoke up
for myself for once. Maybe in the

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past I may have just shimmied something
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always criticizing. Now I'm gonna go
I don't like that you're criticizing. Yeah.

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hear here, Jonathan, what is
your do your expect to be like,

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oh my god, you're right,
I forgot that. I said that.

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Come on over, yeah, I
mean what are you hoping for the answer?

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And the problem is that people can
say things to you and me it

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and then even the next day changed
their minds. That's the bullshit part about

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that, because you could be and
what you think is the most amazing relationship

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ever and everything, everything, and
then one day they just changed their minds.

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Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean they
were or life changes and stresses happen,

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and you have kids and jobs and
things and things risky. You know,

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everybody says, you know, till
death to a bar happily ever after,

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and then things happened. So so
you're dealing with three moving targets here.

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Whatever happened with her exes? Did
they get better or worse? She

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got different? You were different,
and so you know, Jonathan, you're

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writing here, I don't know what
you're hoping for here. I think we're

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on her side. I'm not necessarily
feel a pity for him. I don't

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feel I do feel pity for him, because I do understand feeling like you

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told me this was everything you wanted, and then and then all of a

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sudden, they go back to what
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like, right, she's got a
problem that she likes being treated like trash.

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Or maybe this other guy I stepped
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love him. That's what it sounds
like to defend you, crazy spelled Jonathan.

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Maybe she just didn't appreciate you,
and she had stuff to work on

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and she wasn't ready for a good
guy like you, so I'm gonna put

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on like eventually she's just like I
don't feel worthy of you. You are

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too good for me. Or sometimes
it's when someone is so nice. Sometimes

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it is some people need that.
Some people need, they need that little

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edge of like whatever. I know, some people need, like we need

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to fight to feel alive, because
it's fighting is an emotion. And I'm

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not against Jonathan at all. I
do feel like I feel bad for him

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because it sucks to feel like you
said this is what you wanted. It's

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like when you go out to eat
and you're like, do you want anything,

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and they're like no, and then
you come on with your food and

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they're like snacking on yours. You're
like, no, you said you didn't

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want anything. I leave my fries
alone. Yeah, sorry, Jonathan,

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Sorry, this this is it's not
going to work out because even if she

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called you back and said, oh, you're right, you can't trust it.

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Yeah, you gotta trust her.
Yeah, all right, good,

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next one? Are you okay?
So I turn? Yeah? You are

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who? I'm Megan in Shrewsbury Me
She chews. She I don't even know.

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I've never Shrewsbury. Mass is Shrewsberry. It's kind of near Worcester because

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I went to college in Worster,
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Okay. So I'm not going to
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don't really know. It never stops
me, okay, So Hi, it's

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Meghan. For years, you know, you wouldn't work out with me.

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You wouldn't stop eating like shit,
you wouldn't stop drinking. You even snuck

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cigarettes at work, and now you're
training to be a yoga instructor. What

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happened to? You? Only live
once? What happened to? I want

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to do what makes me happy?
What happened to we're supposed to be carnivores

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when you were stuffing your face with
cheeseburgers. You bring up a good point,

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Megan, and that actually reminds me
of how stressed out I was with

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you, and how I was so
unhappy that I I would only find pleasure

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in Big Max and I wanted to
insulate myself in a world of chilly cheese

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fries because you made me. And
then once I was free of you,

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I realized that there was a better
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physically, and so I thank you
very much you and you showed me the

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way that I could be. I
love animals, I love life, and

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most importantly, now I love myself. And I didn't really realize any of

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that until I was free from you
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So the more you you said,
are you going to eat that? The

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more I wanted to eat that.
And now that nobody's questioning my food choices,

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the silence is enabling me to make
smarter food choices. And no mistee,

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it's interesting to me this thing because
it's Megan. This is this is

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interesting what you're saying because I feel
like I would be more on her side

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if it was the opposite, if
she was saying to him, like,

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you know, free years you were
this yoga instructor, you were so into

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hell you wouldn't eat me. You
know, you were very like, you

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know, spiritual and like whatever you
put and now all of a sudden you're

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like on the corner like eating.
Yeah, this is rare. It's usually

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the other waysting like she's upset that
he like bettered himself, and it's that's

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kind of I mean, listen,
I am like the pettiest bitch on the

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planet, but it is a little
bit petty to be like upset that he's

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she's not happy for him at all, Like what happened to well, he's

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seen the light. It's not like
we don't eat meat. Animals are our

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friends, and now you're like tearing
your teeth into ribs. So another answer

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that he could have given, or
I could have given, I suppose,

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is I didn't appreciate you were right. I just didn't grow up enough.

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I was unhappy with myself and everything
you said to me really made a difference,

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and it took I'm sorry it kicked
in well after we broke up,

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but it did, thank you very
much, and and I like that.

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And let's go let's go out for
a green teeth Ebel, yeah, Eebel,

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and talk about I'd love to see
you, and I'd like to talk

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about like the changes I've made because
I feel you were the inspiration for them.

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Could have gone that way. Dick
had Brian how he chose that,

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chose door, embracing myself for the
next two are fun, But that's that

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could have gone either way. To
give an answer, I think either of

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those answers are are reasonable. I
think so too. And yeah, it's

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she's like, oh, you know, all this time I wanted you to

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do this and you didn't and that
is frustrating. Yeah, all this time,

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I'd ask you every morning, I'd
wake uply, let's go, let's

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go hike. And now all of
a sudden, you're hiking. Well,

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I hope, uh you know,
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I mean, I imagine the frustration
that people must have felt with me

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years ago, where like you didn't. This is what I was talking about.

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All of us probably have that and
and eventually, you know, somebody

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has says something in the right not
just the right way, but not just

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at the right time, but in
the moment that you can hear it,

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and things do click in our heads
and maybe things will change, and maybe

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somebody will stop drinking, or maybe
you will drink more or whatever whatever you

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want. And there is a delayed
reaction sometimes in the messages. Sure,

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or maybe you're just not you don't
want to hear it from that person for

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whatever reason, or maybe it was
the way we all think we're saying in

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a way that can be heard,
but the tone could be wrong, or

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the maybe she accompanied it with an
eye roll, right, you know,

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she if she said like, oh
my god, you're gonna eat that?

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That's so gross or that's so fat, or if you just be like,

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mm, you should try this salad
honestly, honestly, just next time,

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next time, just order the veggie
burger and said if you hate it,

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if you hate it, then I
will order you a regular worker. But

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just next thing, you know,
like something like if you hate it,

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I'll eat what your e right,
like make it make it, Shawn,

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make it Playfiel. There are ways
to get messages across in a better way,

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but people don't want the more you
beat them down and then peck them.

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The more cigarettes they're gonna sneak,
right, And did you ever smoke?

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No? Never? Did you ever
date a smoke her? No?

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And or would I what if they're
like last one, I'm quitting for you?

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Well, yeah, of course.
Yeah. I just don't want my

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hair to smell like smoke. It's
reasonable. I don't like walking through a

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cloud of smoke because then my hair
smells like it the rest of the day.

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There's a place like two blocks from
here where where like ten guys gather

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every morning and they sit and they
smoke cigars and just they must smell like

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each other's cigar. Like I'm like, what are their goals? I like

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cigars, though, twelve guys in
a room, I'm not even sure how

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safe that is these days. But
they're just sitting in there, like blowing

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smoke rings in this tiny little place. And then I'm like, where do

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they go after that? Do they
shower? Do they go to lunch?

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I don't know what they do?
They hang out with my grandfather, that's

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how he smells. My grandfather always
smelled like cigars, and I loved it

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because it was him. It reminds
me of It's a certain smell. Yeah,

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I don't know. I can't wait
to see how I'm going to be

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raked over the coal's neck. All
right. Next one, this is Ian

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from just outside Austin, but here
at first time, just out outside Austin,

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you could go a lot of different
directions. Yeah, true, Ian

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from Austin. You and your dog
are fucking weird. That's right. Your

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dog is weird too. You talk
to each other and you hug each other,

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and you were into each other in
a way that I don't think is

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normal and healthy. That dog always
came before me. And there's a difference

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between loving your pet and thinking your
pet is a guy. It's a dog,

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it's not your husband. First of
all, Ian, First of all,

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you tried to get that dog to
love you the way he loved me,

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and he never did. And that's
why you're pissed. You would take

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him on walks, you would try. He loved me better than you,

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And that is so sad and so
sums up exactly our relationship. That literally

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you said the same thing to me
about my cousin and about my favorite aunt

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who I hang out with. You're
like, this is weird. Nobody hangs

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out with their aunt. Nobody hangs
out with their cousin because you don't have

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a relationship like that. Sad for
you. Maybe someday you will find love

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in like an animal. But this
is exactly why I broke up with you,

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because you could never see past what
you think is weird. And you're

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like, you know what I think
is weird? Ian, you know what

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I think is weird That you keep
your dead father's ashes in your underwear drawer.

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That's what I think is weird.
So I'm glad we broke up.

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Have a nice life, and tell
your dad I said hi, and think

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of him the next time you're putting
on your tidy whities. Freak but Daddy

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in that cigar, I'm the wrong
person to say you're weird with your dog?

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Dog? Right? Is there any
chance that somebody is really weird with

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their dog. There's definite a lance
of that shore extra licking and stuff that

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I don't allow. I love my
dog more than anything. You look at

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my Instagram, a third of it
is my dog. He is the cutest

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dog in the world. Of their
people think they're they're like, oh,

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I'm like, my dog's the cutest
self post like oh, but also I'm

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like, no, not yours,
actually mine. He really he's a Havines

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poodle mix. He's white and he's
fluffy, and he's really the sweetest,

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cutest thing ever, So I get
it. But anytime he tries to lick

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me, because dogs do that,
I go, no licking, no licking.

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I do not allow that. You
don't allow licking. I don't like

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that. I think you're unreasonably cold
your dog. Meanwhile, you wouldn't have

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said that if you saw me laying
on the bed next to him today,

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combing his body, in his face
and his hair. So the dog can

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be in the bed, but no
licking, no licking, and you have

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to say it like that, no
licking, and the dog knows he So

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can the dog sniff at you,
canniff your curly hair? Yeah he doesn't

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though, but he could. I
would allow him to sniff, but no,

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but no licking, no licking.
I don't like that. You don't

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kiss. What are people who do? Give the dog? I don't tongue

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the dog. But you've seen people
who do that. I did. I

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saw something about Mary. Yeah,
like that is that accessive? No,

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that's excessive for sure. But he
didn't say like you like dry fuck your

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dog. He said, you talk
to it weird, and it's not like

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sometimes you're I mean, how many
people adopted dogs during this quarantine because it's

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a comfort level and there is the
like you, your dog is most likely

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not going to hurt you, and
you can trust the dog, and people

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are more relaxed and comfortable with their
pet and they can be So there's another

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one I where you know what it
says to me. It says to me

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that either he was jealous of that
dog already because he's saying your dog.

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He came into that relationship she already
had this dog. Yeah, I bet

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she probably had it with her last
boyfriend or something, and he associates that

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right with the ex. You would
never trust a person who doesn't like a

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dog, and you'd always trust a
dog who doesn't like a person. Always

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right, And so whatever your energy
was around the dog, maybe the dog

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got closer to her because you freaked
the dog out. Maybe the dog could

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tell that you were like some freak
code. I'm not gonna say, yeah,

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we're on both we're on the dog. Yeah, we're definitely on the

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dog side. She may also be
weird, but like I'm jealous of her

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relationship with this, and that's a
picture of the dog that we could really

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judge. Right, you should have
given us, Ian, I know you're

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not giving it to us, you're
theoretically to her. You should have given

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an example of something that you thought
was weird. So yeah, yeah,

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because it seems like very generic right
now, we're like, but if he's

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like, no, for the dog's
birthday, she rented out a banquet hall

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like that, Yes, that's that
is a little weird. I had to

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do a reading at a dog funeral
once in Los Angeles and everybody was playing

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it straight like I had. Nobody
was laughing, and I'm like, this

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is so ridiculous. There was a
band and a reading and a grave soud

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thing and I had to read there
Like she's like, you knew the dog,

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will you? Will you do a
reading? And I did a reading

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from like like a literally yeah something
like that like was luke and I had

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to read it and I'm like,
is anybody gonna start laughing here? And

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nobody start laughing? And I felt
like the asshole. Yeah, well that

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kind of is an asshole move.
You're at a funeral, but you don't

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have a public funeral for your like
if you're gonna like I'm said, the

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dog was old, she did.
We were in we were in black and

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people were crying. It's weird right
there. There is a lot. It's

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also weird to have a birthday party
for your dog, Like I understand getting

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him a special cake'or you know, a dog cake for the day,

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or you buy them treats or you
get them gifts, but you don't invite

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other people into your I know somebody
who had the who celebrate the dog's birthday

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month, which always think is weird
when people do that. It's like it's

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the it's the yeah, like it's
my birthday, yeah, and it's like

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it's yeah, scor I am very
much me too. Is there scorpio discrimination

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in your life? People are like
scorpio because they know better. I'm like,

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don't be jealous that I'm the best
son. Also, both my brothers

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and my dad are all scorpio.
It's a real thing. Girls will not

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date scorpios generally. Really Yeah,
I'd love to date a scorpio because I

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never see it because you're like,
I'm a scorpio, so you don't discriminate

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against wild Yeah, No, we
We we do this thing in our live

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00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:53.079
at our live shows where before anybody
talks, they have to say where they

408
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:56.960
went to high school. Oh and
for a time I switched that up and

409
00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:03.519
I wanted people to say what they're
uh zodiac sign was the Scorpio hate was

410
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.160
so palpable. They're so jealous of
us. Somebody would go Scorpio and they

411
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.359
would go and you'd hear like a
thing I had to stop doing. They're

412
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.000
so jealous of us because they know
that Scorpios are like passionate and loyal and

413
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.640
like so too. But it's a
real thing. It's like the super hot

414
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.039
girl at school that's like so hot. She doesn't have to work out,

415
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:25.119
but she's beautiful and she's also nice
and she's smart, and everybody's like,

416
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:26.920
how do I get what she has? You're like, you can't. She

417
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:30.079
was just born with it, just
got it. Sorry, she's a Scorpio.

418
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:36.960
We are gonna take a quick break
and we will be back with more

419
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:45.640
exes and uh oh's right after this. We are back and it's your turn

420
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:53.359
to serve Jolly Kimmel. Okay,
So this is Carinn karenn. My name's

421
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.200
Karen Okay, and this is just
via the Facebook page, so she doesn't

422
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:03.000
say where she's from. You never
came to pick up that box that you

423
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.240
left in my closet, the one
I never paid much attention to, but

424
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.000
now that I'm moving, I had
to take it out. I looked inside.

425
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:17.079
I mean, what the fuck?
Oh you found the gift that I

426
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.240
meant to give you for our anniversary
that we never got to because you broke

427
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:29.519
up with me. It was supposed
to be special for you, and I'm

428
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.799
sorry that I couldn't give it to
you in the manner in which I intended.

429
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.920
The severed head I was gonna say, that's really Yeah, it doesn't

430
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.319
sound like whatever it was in the
box was good? Is it like pulp

431
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.319
fiction? And what's in the briefcase? It's like a seven? Right,

432
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.240
wasn't that seven? Seven? Had
to head? Right? What's in the

433
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.440
box? Right? But yeah,
pulp fiction is like what was in that

434
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.079
brief because we don't know? Fuck? Like, so what could that have

435
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.119
been? I mean it had to
be porn, is my first thought.

436
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:03.759
Beard underwear just something super weird.
Pictures of his ex yeah, like what

437
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.559
the fuck? Bro or like so
pictures of her. It probably wasn't like

438
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.000
old baseball cards, probably no definite
pictures of maybe pictures of Krinne, like

439
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.079
really bro like that she didn't know
we're being taken, like of her sleeping

440
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.920
and stuff. Oh like secret videos
and stuff. I actually have like one

441
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:23.359
picture I remember my ex husband,
I don't remember. I think I was

442
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.799
looking through his phone. I don't
remember what I was doing. Somehow or

443
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.759
another. I saw that he had
taken a picture of me. I was

444
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:36.160
just like in underwear at the sink, like getting ready, and it was

445
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.680
not flattering at all. I mean
I was very heavy at the time.

446
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.319
I've I've lost over one hundred pounds
over the course of the last seven years

447
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:47.880
or so. Have you, Yeah, and so thank you. I mean

448
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.519
I had weight loss surgery, so
it's not that much of an accomplishment,

449
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.960
but yes, I did. So
I looked terrible and closed, and I

450
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:57.000
looked terrible naked. Now I looked
even worse than And it was a photo.

451
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.839
I was just like putting makeup on
or something. He like took it.

452
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.559
It was like secretly, and that
really bothered me, Like not so

453
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.200
much that I looked disgusting in the
photo, but like, why are you

454
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.960
taking this? The most beautiful pictures
of a woman are always when, always,

455
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.039
when she's caught off always caught off
guard, when your cellulite is being

456
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.079
reflected by the mirrors, not to
him, But no, he was not.

457
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:25.920
This was not a lovely No,
it was like a blackmail shot,

458
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.759
is what it was. Like.
I U a friend of mine she was

459
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.160
dating a guy for like a year
and a half and he was really only

460
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.160
with her. He was secretly recording
everything and putting it on the internet.

461
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:45.880
No, yeah, like sexual stuff, sexual getting ready for stuff. It

462
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.920
was a whole thing. Like and
so I'm like, she she's still like

463
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.759
traumatized this day. Right, she
just trusted this guy and he was always

464
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:57.039
he filmed everything and he was like
secretly uploading it to like porn sites and

465
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.039
stuff. I feel like that's like
a version of rape, right, I

466
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.039
agree. Yeah, I don't know
how she could even trust anybody, like.

467
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.720
It was just such a terrible thing
for her. But so, yeah,

468
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.079
whatever is in the the way she
says or the way you read Karin's

469
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.759
thing, I mean, what the
fuck? It's probably not good, no,

470
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.680
but not not horrible, because otherwise
she would have turned it into the

471
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.119
cops. It's not like child porn
but it's probably like some weird right,

472
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.240
if it was porn, she wouldn't
want it. Yeah, maybe it's like

473
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.599
a ballgag and something or like a
plug. Right, And this was for

474
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:30.960
you, like yeah, we didn't
happy birthday. No, it was not

475
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.559
a gift for her. He left
in the closet. She never paid much

476
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.160
attention to attention to it. It
wasn't for her. It was his and

477
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:42.880
he accidentally left it. Well he
he he accident. If it was really

478
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.440
that right incriminating, he would have
gotten it and he brought it into their

479
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.279
home. He didn't hide it.
Sure, So it wasn't like illegal or

480
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.799
whatever. Right, it just had
to be like embarrassingly. IW did you

481
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.559
ever find something after you dated or
while you're like, oh my god,

482
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.240
what the hell they used to be
a woman, or anything like that.

483
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.039
I did not find anything like that. No, I didn't. I think

484
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.240
I found out all this stuff about
the exes, like before we broke up.

485
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.759
I've found a box A long time
ago. I was living with this

486
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.000
girl. She got her stuff,
she moved out. She left one box

487
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.279
behind. It was a bunch of
diaries that were not hers. Oh,

488
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.559
it was like she had stolen them
out of her sorority. This goes back

489
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.400
like it was like early twenties.
This, I like, it's like she

490
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.880
was gonna black actual because they weren't
hers and they were different handwritings, but

491
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.240
they were legitimate diaries. And she
had like nine of them in a box.

492
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.279
And I'm like, where did you
get these? And why do you

493
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.480
have these? Hear me out?
Did you look at the dates at all?

494
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.599
Yeah? Were they all the same? Like they were not and Franks?

495
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.079
Maybe she bought No, I don't
mean like that, but maybe she

496
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.240
got them at like thrifts. Maybe
she collects them and thinks it really sells

497
00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:00.640
diaries you donate them and they get
like an estate sale or something like maybe.

498
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.480
I'm on the side of definitely wanting
to know. I think there's so

499
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.240
that's kind of interesting that you could
go around and get Are there diaries like

500
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.400
yards sale? Is that? I
mean, I guess why not if you

501
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.640
die and you have an estate.
See, now she's suddenly really interesting.

502
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.559
And I was just like, she's
a psychopath. Why did you? And

503
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.799
I didn't know what to say.
I was like, did she want me

504
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.559
to find these? Did she leave
these behind intentionally? They? I just

505
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.119
felt like I was a part of
something that I shouldn't have been part of.

506
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.680
If they were diaries from people she
knew, that's weird. But if

507
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.640
they were divers from people she didn't
know, maybe she's just fascinated by that.

508
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.480
Like I remember we would drive through
like let's say I grew up in

509
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.480
Vegas and we're driving to California.
We drive through like Barstow or whatever.

510
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.160
Yeah, and you see these small
towns like off the side of the road.

511
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.720
It's mostly desert, but you see
and people live. And I was

512
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.160
always fascinated as a kid, thinking
I would love to just be like a

513
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.119
fly on the wall, like in
houses of people I don't know, and

514
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.640
from her hangman, I just would
love to, like, and I don't

515
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.000
care about I don't want to come
into your house and see how you live

516
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.799
like I know you. That does
not interest me. I want to like

517
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.559
watch people I don't know and like
how they interact and like, you know,

518
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.960
walking through the kitchen, what do
they pick up to snack on?

519
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.440
Just that kind of stuff fascinates me. Uh yeah. I always thought a

520
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:16.880
camera outside a bar in the parking
lot that was fixed for like eight am

521
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:21.160
the next morning, like the Walk
of Shape camera different. We had to

522
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.200
drop the people off in the awkward
goodbye, like drive me back to my

523
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.799
car. Kin, Sure, well, nowadays you would just see a taking

524
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:34.759
that one hundred dollars idea. Here's
the thing about like, yeah, it

525
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.880
could be interesting. Why but if
it was something that she did to collect

526
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:45.720
diaries, wouldn't she have shared that
if they're in a relationship or with me,

527
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.759
I'm like, who is this?
I was the one she had a

528
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.200
bunch, He had a bunch of
diaries and be like, I like to

529
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.160
do this. Maybe not necessarily.
Maybe it wasn't something she really like was

530
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.880
at the forefront of her mind.
You know, maybe it was something she

531
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.640
hadn't done in a while, or
it's not like such a big fiation she's

532
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.279
like, I love this. You've
got to know. It's just like,

533
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.000
oh, every you know, four
years or so. Maybe you know I'll

534
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.360
see and be like, oh cool. You know what. Anytime I'm in

535
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.400
an antique store, I look and
I asked, you haven't have any diaries?

536
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.519
You know? I mean some people
collect rosaries? Do they have them?

537
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.039
They do? Sometimes? Absolutely,
they have a little bi I think

538
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.320
ancient ones are old. Like I
always thought it was. It was both

539
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.719
very personal and uh, you know. Nancy Reagan published the book of her

540
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.599
husband, Ronald Reagan wrote hand wrote
a letter to Nancy every day of their

541
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.039
marriage, no matter where he was, and she published them. And they

542
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.599
were very sweet. But I always
wondered on his side, like I didn't

543
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.119
want to share that with the world. I wanted to show he's dead.

544
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.880
I get that. Well, this
is which can we not honor the dead's

545
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.320
wishes? Well, I mean if
he had made that, you know,

546
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.039
like clear to her that he didn't
want to. But if they were nice,

547
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:52.960
I see, like what's wrong with
it? But you were a very

548
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:58.480
ultimate portrayal of their of their relationship
and how much he loved her, And

549
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.719
I thought it was very sweet.
But part of me like, this is

550
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.119
this is only for you for sure? I think those she must have known

551
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.679
him well enough to know that he
was okay with it, or she wouldn't

552
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:08.320
have done it. They did seem
like a happy couple. Yeah, they

553
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.679
don't you imagine if they were like, I want to fuck you like an

554
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.239
animal nancer. Well, I'm sure
an editor, I know they probably left

555
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.559
out the weird one. Yeah,
by the way, what is that weird

556
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.039
lump? We've got to get that
checked or whatever, like, can we

557
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.320
leave that out? Can you pick? Can you pick something on the way?

558
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.679
They didn't have that, but but
I thought it was and closed is

559
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.920
a photo of you and your cellul
like getting ready in the mirror? Are

560
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.639
you gonna let that? God?
Was it a digital photo? Is it

561
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.119
back like a polaroid? You know
it wasn't a polaroid. It was definitely

562
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.599
digital. But God, when I
was, I mean, I don't one

563
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.719
hundred percent remember, which tells you
it wasn't like that impactful. It was

564
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.920
just something that I was like,
okay about I just thought this. I

565
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.440
don't care for this. I don't
even think I ever brought it up to

566
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.880
him. I was just like,
hmm, was there a point in your

567
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.960
weight loss journey? Can I talk
about that for a second where you were

568
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:01.079
like I'm getting I'm gonna make it
to where I want to be. Like

569
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.880
you say, you lost one hundred
punds over seven years, that's all?

570
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.559
Oh? No, No, over
seven years. It was like an eighteen

571
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.599
month period. I had the weight
loss surgery and so it was like eighteenth

572
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.880
the band. No, I did
have the band to actually cut off a

573
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.000
leg, do not ever get the
band. The band is horrible and almost

574
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.159
killed me. I was very,
very sick from the band. I had

575
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.199
the band for like two years.
I lost about eighty pounds only because I

576
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.559
was always vomiting, always throwing up, right, So then I was getting

577
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.559
second opinions. I was so sick, so weak, I could barely like

578
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.320
work or function. I would go
to the hospital like every few weeks for

579
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.760
like an IV. It was terrible. So finally get a second opinion and

580
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.559
they're like, yeah, the band
needs to come out. It is slipped

581
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.840
eighty percent of the way down your
stomach and it's basically strangling you to death.

582
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.159
Yeah, so weight Yeah, And
I got it taken out and felt

583
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.880
great, and then within like a
year I had gained all my weight back.

584
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.639
And then I found out that my
insurance covered weight loss or so when

585
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.079
I had the gastric sleeve, which
just means they just cut off like eighty

586
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.920
percent of your stomach, they just
like it off and it's like shaped like

587
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.440
a sleeve, which is why they
call it that. And yeah, so

588
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.719
I lost like one hundred and nine
pounds or whatever and took about eighteen months.

589
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:09.119
Good for you, it averages out
to like eight to ten pounds a

590
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.519
month. You have to go get
the skin done. I actually I'm gonna

591
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.840
beginning a tummy took soon. Yeah, thank to an anonymous benefactor, all

592
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.119
right, and not so anonymous to
me. Maybe posting the before and after

593
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.239
pictures on our Facebook. We'll see, I mean maybe do you know who?

594
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:30.000
Oddly that actually triggered me here of
who I looked to as like what

595
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.480
he did works. I think I
should try that. Do you know who

596
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.239
my brother, yeah, yeah to
me has done He does the five and

597
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:43.639
two. Yeah, he's kept the
weight off a long time. Has but

598
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.920
he also and he likes barbecue and
cookie. He likes a lot of stuff

599
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.599
like that. He never had a
weight problem. He was always very skinny

600
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.239
growing up Key though. It was
always very skinny growing up, and then

601
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.280
when he was like man show ish, he was like it was more like

602
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.760
baby fat than anything. He was
never like a fat per, but he

603
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.320
was like next to Adam Corolla for
one thing, who's skinny, and he

604
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.920
just kind of had it was like
baby fat more than anything. And then

605
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.599
he lost that weight and I mean
it wasn't like so much weight he really

606
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.280
kept. He lost forty pounds,
right, which to me is nothing because

607
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.840
I've been like a hundred and something
pounds overweight, but he's been he's been

608
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.599
at that weight right fairly. I'm
a personal trainer who like kind of and

609
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.599
Jimmy's very determined and dedicated, Like
if he puts his mind to something,

610
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.960
there's nothing that's going to stop him
because he's not oprah yo yo, and

611
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:37.599
she has the tricks very much like
he's very He's very dedicated, and he's

612
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.960
like my brain is like watch this. I would go and get diet pills,

613
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.639
like back in the day when diepills
are a thing, like at a

614
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.000
truck stop. Like one of your
friends would be like, I got these

615
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.719
diet pills. You're like where they're
like a truck stop in king when you're

616
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.360
like, next time, you're going
through stock up and give me Like girls

617
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:57.159
in college, like we did everything
we could to his weight except diet exercise,

618
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.360
but that's another story. And I
would like get the pills and everyone

619
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.840
was losing weight on them, and
I'd be like I could eat, watch

620
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.599
and I'd take the pills and like
still eat, Like why was I doing

621
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.880
that? I don't know. But
Jimmy is not like that. When he's

622
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.320
like gets something in his head,
he will do it. Is it always

623
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.400
the same days that he does?
I don't really know. I don't think

624
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.199
so. I think he's a little
looser with it now that he like doesn't

625
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.960
have to lose weight, he just
has to maintain. But you know,

626
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.000
they would do a lot of every
day catered lunches for the writers and all

627
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.519
this. So now they do that, but they keep it more too,

628
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.559
they keep it more health conscious.
Yeah, and like it's not as crazy

629
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.519
like tons of bagels in the break
room every day, and it's a little

630
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.000
more like all right, we're all
but it seems like a fairly normal way

631
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.079
to do it. Yeah. And
he's a very big fan of the Souv'd

632
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.039
which is that cooking thing, and
he would like put his fish in there

633
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.480
and have like it. He's very
he likes to I'm doing the bone broth.

634
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.400
It really is. Oh see,
I don't that schevs me to even

635
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.840
think about, like bone broth.
It's so good for you. And I

636
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.199
don't eat meat anywhere anyway, So
I think that what about the broth?

637
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.480
Does that count as meat? Yes, it's made from animals, are you

638
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:09.800
like, No, I'm not eat
fish? And honestly, there are sometimes

639
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.800
like when I was at my mom's
over Christmas, she was making bacon.

640
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.320
I was like, oh, I
like took two pieces and like stood in

641
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.920
the hall and just like scarf them. So no, I'm not like that.

642
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.000
But there are certain things like I
don't. I will never just like

643
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.119
eat a steak if I said,
oh, so good, have a bite

644
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.480
if it's a very small bite.
But for me now it's more of a

645
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.880
mental thing than anything else, like
the texture and stuff like schevs me.

646
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.599
But like a burger I could eat
if it's not too thick, or like

647
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.880
a like a chicken nugget, because
I always feel like they're not real meat

648
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.159
anyway, right, And it's not
very often, it's just once in a

649
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.840
while, but I feel like I've
oh my god, I used to love

650
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.800
that. I had a whole bit
about it, like I was like the

651
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.440
fat girl who could never talk about
anything but the McRib coming back. I

652
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.920
loved and I had it again,
like I mean, I gave it meat

653
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.119
like a year and a half ago, but you know, for the most

654
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.840
part, but recently, I think
the last macrib I had probably was three

655
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.880
or four years ago, and I
was like, what was I think.

656
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.920
I know. It is like a
gelatinous slab of when's the last time you

657
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:16.079
had a hot dog? I actually
have never liked hot dogs. I only

658
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.360
would eat turkey ones when I would
eat them, because I really just never

659
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.840
liked hot dogs. But now I
love the Morning Star Farms veggie corn dogs

660
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.480
there say they're so good, Oh
my god, I might stop and get

661
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.239
some on my way home today.
I'll eat like two of them in the

662
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.079
microwave for breakfast and like two for
lunch. Okay, that's what's known as

663
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.599
a tangent. Yes, I hope
it was. It was good, but

664
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.840
you never know. You never know
where we're going to go. Yeah,

665
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:43.039
they're like, oh, I just
got good information on weight loss surgery.

666
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.000
Have you ever done Corollas show?
No, I did his w I've done

667
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.679
his wife's podcast. If you do
Adam's show, you have to be prepared

668
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:55.360
for any oh hello, Adam's whole
life is a tangent or any conversation with

669
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.960
him, and you just have to
be like, how did we get done?

670
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.159
Like you honestly have to just like
do yourself that favor and not even

671
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:07.320
make any sidebar with him, otherwise
you will totally It's like, forget,

672
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.880
how did we get down this road? Yeah? Well, Adam, Adam,

673
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.920
your your you my third one?
My number three? Is you?

674
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.280
Two? Okay? I hope this
is a good one. Do you like

675
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.400
an accent or something this time?
Okay? Play wild with me? Okay,

676
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.039
here we go. Wait, I
got you. Yeah, you're number

677
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.519
oh okay, and this is Mark
the mark with a K R a C

678
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.199
mark with a K, thank god. Via the Facebook page. Huh,

679
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.280
do you want an accent up some
kind? Sure? Do you want to

680
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.679
Massachusetts accent? If you can do
one? Yeah, don't don't screw it

681
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.920
up? Though, I can't do
this one to play it straight. You

682
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.039
just made me nervous. I do
it? I like, look, every

683
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.079
opportunity to say wicked, piss awesome, but I couldn't. Your father's a

684
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:57.599
cop mark Mark via the Facebook page. I always had trouble saying I love

685
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.199
you, and I know that ultimately
that is what made you end things you

686
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.559
felt I was too emotionally immature.
Well, I know it has been a

687
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.199
while, and I'm not afraid anymore. I not only miss you, but

688
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:12.679
I love you. I think we
should give it another try. Oh,

689
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:19.039
she's crying. I like literally,
she's literally crying, Mark, I got

690
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:23.440
a girl for you, Mark,
like I never. I just want to

691
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.880
say, first of all, you
were right about that. That was something

692
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.880
that always bothered me, and it
was hard, you know, because like

693
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.280
I loved you so much and I
always told you and I just felt like

694
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.480
you never you never wanted to say
it, And just to hear you say

695
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:44.239
that now means like so much to
me, and I would love to give

696
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:57.840
it another try. She's actually crying, I waiting for me. You were

697
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.840
waiting for the dark turn. And
I love that he was. He was

698
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:06.159
sweet and he feels bad and he's
so willing to put himself out there sometimes

699
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.000
because she could be like fuck you
too late. Of course most people sometimes

700
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.519
it takes a while for the boys
to grow up. Any any humans,

701
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.960
it did kick in. I think
that he's clearly done the work or the

702
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:25.599
work sunk in to him. I
believe him. I want him. I

703
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.159
want her to take him back.
I like it because it's it doesn't seem

704
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:31.880
like there was any like real terrible
stuff. It was just like my dad

705
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.599
doesn't. She just couldn't get through. My dad doesn't say I love you

706
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.239
very often. The house it wasn't
something that they said in his house.

707
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.039
He's like German Irish, so they
were I mean, there were nice people

708
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.039
and they loved him, but it
wasn't a very like my mom is Italian,

709
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:46.679
like everything's I love you, I
love you, I love your face,

710
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:51.079
Come here, give me like food
is love. Everything's love right,

711
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.880
and my dad loves us like a
million ways to Sunday. He shows it

712
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.079
in everything he does say. The
words are tough for him. He actually

713
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.559
used to am I going to out
him here? He's we're going to listen

714
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.800
to this? He used to say
to my mom because well, because I'm

715
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.880
not going to tell him. He
used to say to my mom instead of

716
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.719
I love you. It was so
hard for him to just bridge that,

717
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.840
like just to say it. He
loves her so much and shows it.

718
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.119
He would say taamo, which is
just because they had seen it in like

719
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.920
some movie or something kind of like
in Ghosts where he would just say diddo.

720
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.360
It was just those words were so
difficult. He showed her all that.

721
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:29.719
I hope that this lady gets back
together with Mark. Mark. I

722
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.159
know, let Mark please reach out
again and like follow up with us on

723
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.800
this. See you know you should
say I love you once in a while,

724
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.440
but there are more original things to
say and ways to express it that

725
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.119
can absolutely be more meaning for me. If you're just like you know,

726
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.320
you're just the most special person in
the world and I can't believe you're my

727
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:52.559
something like my ex used to say
to me, I'll fight for you,

728
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.960
because one time I had said to
him, like, I feel like if

729
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.400
we get in a fight, like
and I like leave in a huff or

730
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.159
whatever, like you won't even come
after me, Like I feel like you

731
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.519
won't even fight for me. Yeah, And so he used to text me

732
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.000
just every once in a while and
say, hey, you know, I'll

733
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.519
fight for you. And now at
the end of our relationship, I said

734
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.159
to him, you know, it's
funny because you always used to say to

735
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.719
me, you'll fight for me,
and that meant so much to me until

736
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.519
I realized you didn't mean you would
fight for me. You meant you would

737
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:20.199
fight with me. Yeah, And
he was like h And I'm like,

738
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.639
well, I mean, sorry,
the truth hurts, but yes, because

739
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.519
a lot of people will will reach
out to the X and throw out the

740
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.440
I miss you, yeah, but
you and I love you, especially if

741
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.440
you didn't say it. I buy
it. I believe it too. I

742
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.800
believe it's so on board for this
relationship to work. I'll track this guy

743
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:42.760
down. Yeah yeah, if well, if he's listening on our Facebook page

744
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.559
and Mark, send us some more
info. We're gonna help you, like

745
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.880
we'd love. We're gonna make this
better, not fuck us over, Mark

746
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.119
weird team market and also Mark,
you better not be some piece of shit

747
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.000
who like ruined her life. That
she's going to be mad that we find

748
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:58.880
her. But like, yeah,
I don't want her to be like do

749
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:00.760
you know what he did? Not
only I say this, here's what he

750
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.679
did say, I am an ordained
minister. I would be happy to like

751
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:09.280
officiate your wedding. Yeah, I
don't know. It was sweet. You

752
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:15.880
did make it and make me cry. She doesn't write you back hit me

753
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.559
up unless you're a smoker, but
otherwise, and good for us throwing in

754
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.880
a sweet one. You know.
Yeah, that's good and and that was

755
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:29.199
really the way. Here's what you
did, Mark. You acknowledged you heard

756
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:34.800
her, You acknowledged what you did
wrong. Give the reason you thought I

757
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.760
was emotionally immature, And you're right. People really do want that acknowledgment that

758
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:45.480
people want to know that I wasn't
crazy to think this the validating and I

759
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.000
heard you. It took me too
long, It was too late. But

760
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.360
this sort of goes back to the
beginning, like with the food thing.

761
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.360
If the crazy eater who was then
teaching yoga, yeah, you know,

762
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.440
he was like I heard you and
it did kick in someone. Yeah,

763
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:04.159
but this one he understood what she
was talking about and he was emotionally immature,

764
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.280
and he is a different person now. And people are always sometimes like

765
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.360
you know, a lot of times
it ends because it ends, and it

766
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:14.360
should end. But people do change
and they do grow up and they do

767
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.760
see the light and they can be
better people. And there is nothing wrong

768
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.840
with I don't want to say recycling
an X, but revisiting something. The

769
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.079
one that got away, Yeah,
she could be the one that like,

770
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:30.400
you know, yeah, you're different
places in time. Lord back with Yeah,

771
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.400
and you meet and you and you
learned. Yeah, I love it.

772
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.280
Yeah, we're in God. I
love you to Mark, I love

773
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.320
you too. So you have a
you have a plan B here, you'll

774
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.239
kimmel one. Well, you don't
even need plan B because I've I can't

775
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.400
have kids. Oh that's a different
plan being exactly. Yeah, that's a

776
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.280
different plan, big different thing.
All right, that was very sweet.

777
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:53.159
Okay, next one for me.
Okay, this is from Sabrina in White

778
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.280
Plans, New York. You know
who was born in White Plans, New

779
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.559
York? No? Me? Oh, really, White Plans. I do

780
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.360
know that the star Wood corporate office
is in White Plains, New York.

781
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.920
I used to work for them,
you did, Okay, I was born

782
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:13.800
there, unceremoniously fired. It's a
long story. It's a different pody.

783
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.360
Not really, it was jobs I
used to have with Oh my god,

784
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.960
that would be you know, some
podcast. It was actually a good podcast

785
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:25.440
podcast. Yeah, to have people
about the jobs I used to have one,

786
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.760
no to self. Okay, here
we go. This is Sabrina.

787
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.159
I feel like we should have ended
with Mark because that was like a nice

788
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:38.800
taste. Well, here we go. I've waited three years to tell you

789
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:43.480
this, but here goes. I
cheated on you with your brother. You

790
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.480
know how I said I always hated
him and he was so gross. That

791
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.199
was a lie. He's hot,
his wife's a crazy bitch. You're an

792
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.280
asshole, and that last Thanksgiving was
fucking awesome. He might be a total

793
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.519
dick, like you, but he
knew how to please me in ways you

794
00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.079
never could. So when I said
screw you're and your whole family, I

795
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:05.400
meant screw you and I screwed your
brother, hot fucking hot. Well you

796
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.239
two deserve each other. And uh, he has that bitch of a wife

797
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:12.840
because he's a miserable piece of shit. And I'm not surprised by that,

798
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.280
because I'm not surprised by anything you
do. I'm surprised you're not writing me

799
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.519
and telling me that it was my
father, or our neighbors or anybody else.

800
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.119
I always knew you were no good. I'm glad to be free of

801
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:29.360
you. I'm with a wonderful woman
now who makes me cheeseburgers for Thanksgiving dinner,

802
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.000
and she's terrific, and she would
never do the things you do.

803
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.079
I don't know. Uh, if
you think that I'm going to be shocked

804
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:40.039
at this news, why would you
do that with him? No matter how

805
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.679
much you tried to say you don't
know. Well, she does say that

806
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.119
he was a total dick. He
might be a total dick like you,

807
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.719
So they're both dicks. But he
knew how to please me in ways you

808
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.320
could never could. This is the
most toxic thing I've ever read in my

809
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.639
life. It's like, not only
are and believe me, it's like,

810
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:59.320
not only are you not together anymore, but you feel compelled to let him

811
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.559
know that when you together, you're
stuck with his brother who's also a dick.

812
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.119
So it's not even well, I
feel like what he should have said

813
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.679
to her was like, well,
guess what. You know what what he

814
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.320
never told you and neither did I
was that he has herpies, So good

815
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:13.800
luck with that, sister. Yeah, like weird, I know what again,

816
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:15.559
what do you want? So you
just wanted to have the last word?

817
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.400
Yeah, why are you fucking his
brother if he's also a total dick?

818
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:24.280
Just like what? We don't bring
her to Thanksgiving dinner? That last

819
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.360
Thanksgiving was fucking awesome, Like,
I I know, yeah, it's I

820
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.840
mean it sounds like you two are
perfect for each other kind of yeah,

821
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:37.039
and thanks for listening three years to
tell you this, like Sabrina stay away

822
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:42.000
from for Sabrina that she's still three
years later, thinks that she needs to

823
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.559
hold onto this tussa. It's like, yeah, you're telling him now,

824
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.360
but you're still clearly like hot,
She goes, I've waited three years to

825
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.920
tell me, right, but you
feel bad for her. I feel badly

826
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.280
that she's the kind of person that
needs to hold Like three years later,

827
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:57.199
you're still like harboring the one who's
the piece of shit here. I don't

828
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.760
feel bad for her, like I'm
sad. I feel like this is really

829
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.800
the brother's the bad one. They're
all bad. They're all bad. Well

830
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.440
maybe not the guy. She does
say he's a total dick, but that's

831
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.760
her version. But he didn't care
to screw his brother's white they're all they're

832
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.760
all all bad. Maybe the brother's
wife's the only one. He's she's a

833
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.079
crazy bitch, she might be.
Why is the crazy bitch? You're fucking

834
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:21.960
your husband? Or boyfriend's brother is
the crazy bitch? Right? Like I've

835
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:23.880
been a crazy bitch, don't get
it twisted, But I would never hook

836
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.960
up with a relative. Do you
know people who've done stuff like that?

837
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.280
H you know? I watched Ninety
Day Fiance. There's one couple on there,

838
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.320
but I I don't think I do
not in real life. No,

839
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.920
And if they have, they haven't
admitted it. The couple that does not

840
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:46.440
get enough or the story that does
not get enough play is Shania Twain's husband,

841
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:52.559
but Lang left her for her friend
best friend, and Shania's with the

842
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:55.639
friend's husband. That crazy, they
just swapped, which is like, hey,

843
00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.239
if it works out, fine,
But my Lang thinking like how gorgeous

844
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:05.679
was this friend that he would cheat
on Shilly not for the pictures, not

845
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.679
but Shania might have been annoying.
Sure, don't judge, but I think

846
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:13.559
that the husband coming over and them
saying like how long did you know about

847
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.000
them doing this? Brought them together. It would bring me to sort of

848
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:22.320
like it does sometimes happen with you
know, widows or widowers. They they

849
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.280
share the comfort and the loss.
Yeah, so like their husband died at

850
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:29.840
war and like the y and surprising
amount of nine to eleven firefighters got together

851
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.159
with the wives. Not surprising though, because they probably have a lot in

852
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.079
common if they're friends and they're sharing
the kind of career, and if they're

853
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.079
dead, that's totally different. I
mean, it might be weird for the

854
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:42.159
people who are left, like wasn't
that my uncle? I know? Are

855
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.599
they together? Like where do they
go? And in real life, like

856
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.199
when they're still alive and you just
yeah, that's gross, I know.

857
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.840
And also no one I've ever dated
has had a hot relative. So the

858
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.559
one I want is Sabrina. I
don't want you contacting Mark. I will

859
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.599
kill Sabrina if she contacts my man
Mark. Fur Sweet Serena is knock it

860
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:05.320
off. I know you did this, and thanks, thanks for listening.

861
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.280
But this is something that you admit
in one of those drinking games with your

862
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:10.480
friends. Reach out to him three
years later like what's the point, right,

863
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.480
And it's not like three years later
you've had some growth, because three

864
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.639
years later you want it. You're
still saying how fucking hot. At the

865
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.719
end, you kind of you tell
this story to everybody and you think it's

866
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:22.760
cool, right, And if he
was a really total dick, then it

867
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.519
is like I get it. If
he really was a dick. I'm on

868
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.239
Sabrina's side, like, good for
you, sister, preach it to the

869
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.320
choir. Let him know you ruin
his life. Yeah, but I feel

870
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.639
like maybe it wasn't totally like that. He was probably a dick. But

871
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.800
I feel like she's got some spice
too. She's probably a scorpio. She

872
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.679
probably is and was the brother.
There's no I want to go drinking with

873
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.079
Sabrina, and I want Sabrina to
have my back when my man cheats on

874
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.920
me. But I feel also like
I would not let Sabrina be alone in

875
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.800
my Rina. Ye, yes,
she's the friend that you call when you

876
00:54:53.920 --> 00:55:00.199
need like a body buried. Come
on, Sabrina, get it together there,

877
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.519
Sabrina. Yeah, I feel like
Sabrina hasn't found love to this point

878
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.920
to still be like hot, fucking
hot. Yeah, you still are kind

879
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.519
of think it's I want her to
like find someone who makes her not care.

880
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.639
I know about that. That's That's
not the show we're doing here,

881
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:20.719
Sabrina. We're selling hope around here. Oh okay, this was good.

882
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.360
Are you since the last time you
were here? A reader? The listeners

883
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.920
an update? Are you in a
happier place? I am so happy.

884
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.119
I'm in such a good place.
So turns out I don't know. I

885
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.760
don't remember how much I revealed of
my last but I was still in a

886
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.559
very bad place. What was it
three weeks ago when I was here?

887
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.320
My ex and I he had been
stringing me along for many, many months,

888
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.159
and he doesn't think he was,
but everyone who hears this story agrees

889
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:49.239
that he for sure was, and
he started dating someone during like a month

890
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.480
period where he and I were not
speaking, but then we started speaking again

891
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.760
and like hooking up. But he
was still dating this girl that he was

892
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.079
very much downplaying. He's like,
no, no, we're not dating.

893
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.519
We're not dating. We've gone on
a dates, is what he kept saying.

894
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:06.119
Turns out they were very much dating, and I was a little bitter

895
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:08.679
about it, and maybe much like
Sabrina, but I was subtweeting. I

896
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:15.480
was tweeting things that I would not
say. Well, I was working jokes

897
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.079
into my act, but also on
Twitter, which although they had me blocked

898
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.480
on all social media. I knew
she would be looking because that's what I

899
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.880
do. And she saw something I
wrote and reached out and was like,

900
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.000
listen, I'm reading your stuff.
If you've got something to say to me,

901
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.960
say it, and if not,
like cut the shit, Like what

902
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:36.320
are you doing stirring up trouble?
So she and I spoke for about three

903
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.400
hours. We facetimes that day,
and I just told her the truth about

904
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:43.719
everything, and she promptly went over
to his house and broke up with him.

905
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.199
And that was two and a half
weeks ago, and she and I

906
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:51.239
are buddies. We hung out,
We've spoken every day. Every day we

907
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.840
text and talk, and she's very
young and very cool and so much more

908
00:56:55.880 --> 00:57:00.159
mature than I ever was at her
age or am today at fifth she's twenty

909
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.079
two. She's lived a life where
she had to grow up a little fast,

910
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.840
and she's like really well spoken and
a great girl. And honestly,

911
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.239
I know exactly what he saw in
her, but sorry, you were still

912
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.760
put in your dick where it didn't
belong in me. So she knows now,

913
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:16.079
and she's broken up with him,
and he's trying real hard to get

914
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:20.599
her back and think she's too smart
for that. So wow, yeah,

915
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.679
yes it is closure. It is. And I think I think because she

916
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:30.039
and I talked so much, and
he told her so many lies that didn't

917
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:35.199
even matter, Like I understand.
I'm not condoning, but I understand save

918
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.440
my ass lies like when was the
last time you talked to your ex?

919
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:42.960
I understand the like oh not like
for like a month. I don't like

920
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:45.440
it, but I do understand that
he told her lies that made no sense

921
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.840
at all, had no bearing on
their relationship, just random shit. So

922
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.599
he's just a crazy person. I
don't think he's crazy. I think he's

923
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.800
a compulsive liar, like. He
would tell her things about me that I

924
00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.400
was like, like, she actually
came to my house. I closed the

925
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.760
bar down one night. We went
out. We closed one bar down at

926
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:06.960
eleven o'clock, went across the street
to this other bar, stayed there till

927
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.239
two we still had stuff to say. Went back to my house till four

928
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:12.639
point thirty in the morning. Why, she said to me, because I

929
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.440
live like down the block. She
goes, is this where you guys live

930
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:17.360
together? And I go, yeah, she goes, He told me you

931
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.159
didn't have a TV in your bedroom. Just shit like that that you're like,

932
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:22.920
why why, I don't know,
She goes, I don't know.

933
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:24.719
He would always be like, yeah, I don't like a TV in the

934
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.280
bedroom. I've never had a TV
in my bedroom. I like to just

935
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.920
you know, when I'm going to
be like just random stuff. To make

936
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:35.360
himself look better, he told her
that in October he had posted a picture

937
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.440
of himself on his buddy's boat with
a bunch of hot chicks. And I

938
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:43.280
got really mad and flipped out and
called his parents and lied to them and

939
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.159
told him he was doing drugs and
stuff, and his parents were like,

940
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.920
man, just take it down.
I'm like that literally never happened, none

941
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.719
of that, none of it,
not even like, that's not what happened.

942
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.039
The picture was of his ex.
No, no picture, no boat,

943
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.159
no buddy, nothing nothing. I
was like, are you kidding me?

944
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:01.719
When she told me that, I
practically I like knocked her drink over

945
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:06.679
because I pounded on the table.
I was like, what so good again?

946
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.039
So yes, what that does give
you is I'm not crazy. I'm

947
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:13.920
not crazy, right, and I
mean, like I knew I wasn't like

948
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.000
I can be crazy where I'm like, yes, the scorpio crazy, which

949
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:21.639
is the typical you know, I'm
very jealous person when you give me a

950
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.800
reason to be, and even sometimes
not like if I just see pictures of

951
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:27.719
your ex and she's smoking hot,
Yeah, yes, I'm jealous. Am

952
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.440
I gonna like torture you over it? No? Might I make snide comments

953
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:35.000
now and then, absolutely, But
you should be like, oh that's I

954
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.239
must be like that. Wouldn't it
be good that X was hot? And

955
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.239
that doesn't mean you're hot just because
his ex was hot. It means he's

956
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:44.559
capable of getting hot. Sure,
okay, great, and I ain't her,

957
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:49.119
which means anytime you can get hot
and it's not me, so yes,

958
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.519
wait, no, it could be
I can get hot and you're the

959
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:53.719
hot one I want, sure,
which is great, and that's an awesome,

960
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.679
non scorpio way to look at it, but that must be your sign

961
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.000
rising. I think Kevin Fetterline can
go out to bar and get any girl

962
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.800
because he got Brittany. That's an
interesting way to look at it. I

963
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.199
could see that and like, yeah, sure, But for me personally,

964
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.880
I am like, you know,
I'm insecure about that, and I'd be

965
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:13.599
like, oh, look at her, Oh my god, she's in this

966
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.639
bikini. Her body is amazing.
Thinking about what my body looks like,

967
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.199
it doesn't look like that, Like, I am insecure, but I'm not

968
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:21.760
going to do that to you.
I'm gonna call my best friend and say

969
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:23.679
that shit to her, and then
to you, I'll just be like m

970
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:28.039
you know, like I'll be like, yeah, oh, looks like your

971
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.679
ex was a you know why this
week must be nice, and I'll drop

972
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.960
it at that. But to my
best friend, I'm like, this bitch

973
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:36.440
was in a thong. You should
have seen her. Oh my god,

974
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:37.679
I wanted to kill myself, you
know, Like, yeah, but I'm

975
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:43.599
not going to do that to you, you learn some crazy I know right

976
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.000
going on? Sure, and it's
like so it gave me a big,

977
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.800
huge it's slammed the door of cloth
like. I was like, wow,

978
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.320
Like, but whatever, this is
done, Like you have a sparkle in

979
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:57.000
your eye. You look answered so
many questions for me because she and I

980
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.440
sat next to each other and compared
to he would send us the same funny

981
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.400
meme. At the same time.
I was like, wow, she and

982
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.559
I just compared you to know you
do you talk about other things? Or

983
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:08.639
is it all him? All the
time? It was literally all him.

984
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:13.239
We had so much to talk about. We FaceTime for three hours the first

985
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.679
day, texted for three hours the
next night, texted for four hours the

986
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.280
next night, texted for three hours
the next night. Then we met from

987
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:23.760
nine thirty at night till four thirty
in the morning, and then have texted

988
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.960
or talked in some fashion less but
like you know, anywhere from like twenty

989
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.159
minutes to an hour or so pretty
much every day since. Then take a

990
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:35.239
day off from him. No,
it's good. It's good because she's asking

991
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.519
me questions. She'll be like,
hey, by the way, did this

992
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:42.719
ever happen? I'm like m well, maybe before me, Like I've even

993
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.840
found myself like trying to be like
really give him the benefit of the doubt.

994
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.239
She's like, did he ever teach
boxing to like kids? And I'm

995
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.840
like, I mean maybe before me. She's like, no, he said

996
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:53.920
he had to stop because of COVID. I'm like, yeah, no,

997
01:01:54.800 --> 01:02:00.840
stuff like that lies. Yeah,
So I feel like free, okay,

998
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:05.159
And it's the I've never felt so. I mean, I have spent eight

999
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:09.519
months tortured, crying every single day
over him, whether we were still talking

1000
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:13.599
in a good place or not,
because I would cry knowing that we weren't

1001
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:17.239
fully to get at whatever. But
this I have to say, I've learned

1002
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:21.000
such a big lesson from it.
First of all, I was very judging

1003
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:22.960
of her when I first saw her. I was like, she's super young,

1004
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:27.360
and I just picked out anything that
I possibly thought I could pick out

1005
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.880
about her and like, you know, illuminated it, Like, oh,

1006
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.519
look at her eyelashes. What I
mean, while her eyelashes look great?

1007
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.199
But I was like, okay,
fake eyelashes. It's like, yeah,

1008
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.960
a million people at fake eyelashes,
and hers actually look really good. So

1009
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.960
I really learned. And she's like
really, well, spoken and smart and

1010
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:49.519
like really sweet and nice, and
I could see someone falling for her absolutely,

1011
01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:54.039
and so it really taught me like
do not because I wanted to be

1012
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.840
like, Okay, this girl thinks
he's this, that and the other thing,

1013
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.960
and she probably thinks he's such a
catch. He's never been married and

1014
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.920
doesn't have any kids, but he
wants them, and she's probably like,

1015
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.320
oh my god, he's amazing and
he owns his own place. And meanwhile

1016
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she's like no, Like when he
asked me to be his girlfriend, I

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was like, I mean, I
guess I thought we were just hooking up,

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but okay, I guess we can
try it. Like I had so

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many like preconceived notions about her and
all those things that like I'm an idiot

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and I can't like apologize to her
enough and thank her enough for being woman

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01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:30.119
and adult enough to say, hey, listen, I see some shit you're

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01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.400
saying. If you have something to
say to me, say it. If

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01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.320
not, and you're just like doing
this disturb of trouble. Can you knock

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01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.679
it off? And millennials, they're
not all bad, I know. I

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01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:45.360
well, I don't even think she's
a millennial. I think she's like why

1026
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.719
Yeah, yeah, she's too young
to be yeah, oh my god.

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So I definitely learned a huge lesson
from it. And really it's like really

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01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:57.760
cut the shit, like the preconceived
notions. All it did was like hurt

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01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.880
me to jump to conclusions about her
because I was like about it all the

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time and yeah, I feel free
and happy and I couldn't thank her enough.

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Well, this was fun. Yeah, that's why we had you.

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This is very cathartic. It so
was, and this is fun. I

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01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:13.360
like doing this. If you guys
want to write in with letter and you

1034
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.800
can catch Jill hosting jobs. We
used to have podcasts coming soon. You

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01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:20.599
get anything to plug. So if
you follow me on Instagram or Twitter,

1036
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.920
I'll post about it and i'll listen
where I'll be And what's your Instagram and

1037
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.519
Twitter? It's Jill Kimmel. It's
me Jill Kimmel. It's me, yes,

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all right, Yeah, thank you. This was good as far as

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us as always like, share,
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1040
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:39.599
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you were one of the letters,
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01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.440
info, especially you mark where there's
probably women out here. Listening. Who

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01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.000
want to go out with you?
If? If your action is not take

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01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:55.320
you back? But this is really
good? Mark? Uh was I gonna

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01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.400
say? Check out our live tour
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01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:02.519
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