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All right, we continue on Fred
Rugan Rodney peat on a five s LA

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Sports. Don't forget. The Countdown
is on Monday, Monday, Monday,

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Hollywood Park, Inglewood noon to three. Rodney I will be there and Austin

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Barnes will join the show. Now, we invite you to come out.

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We invite you to be a part
of it. We're thrilled to be there.

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We love it. I will tell
you this, There are probably probably

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some some seats available. People have
signed up and they signed up quickly,

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but we still have some seats.
That doesn't mean if you didn't sign up

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you can't come. We'd love to
see you. You'll have a chance to

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win. Most importantly, you'll see
Austin Barnes. Get there early. Please

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get there early. At least say
you're not just saying that get there early.

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Get there early because it will get
crowded as the show gets ready to

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start. So try to get there
early. There'll be plenty of room,

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but you might be standing for a
little bit. But if you want to

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get there early and get a seat, get there early. Yeah, I

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would get there when we start at
noon. We're starting at noon. That's

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all I'll say. When you get
there, you'll understand what that means.

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But noon is when you need to
be there. Monday, Hollywood Park,

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Inglewood Prizes to give away great time. Come on down, look forward.

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I will say, the last two
times we've been there, it's been nuts.

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It's been crazy, it's been overcrowded, it's been loud, it's been

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somewhat rambunctious. Fred crowds have been
lively and I loved it. Bruce dar

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Graderol was great, Key care nand
this was fantastic. Austin Barnes is gonna

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be great as well. So get
there, have a good time with us.

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Come on. Yeah, Now when
we tell you this, we mean

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it. You know. I just
hope the guy, the security guy that

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like the nine foot guy with a
gun, I hope he's there too.

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He better be. That guy was
giant. They've got a guy there in

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security. Let me tell you what, he can secure an entire planet.

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This guy is so big and he
is right there with us to keep an

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eye onos Die. So we're not
getting around. It gets a little nutty.

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Come on down to be part of
their craziness. Uh. They'll have

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a high coup coming up later on
in the hour. All right, so

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the Olympics are what less than two
weeks away in Paris? Excited. Yeah,

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he's the Olympic guy. I know, right, Kevin. He used

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to be a mister Olympian, Mister
Olympics. Let's go. Come on,

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Freddy, now, what happened to
you? You know, normally this would

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be the time where I would be
getting on a plane and either going to

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the country or to Stanford, Connecticut. And you know, I was the

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host on the cable side, so
I would go and leave rehears and and

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we go over our notes and by
the way, we prepare long before we

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get to where we're going. You
got a research manual that is enormous,

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It's gigantic, and Iver would go
when you would gocide to cut you off,

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and you would go to these countries
like you go to different countries,

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and that's that Connecticut because even when
you're in Connecticut. I remember you told

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me that, it's like, man, you were in Connecticut. He looked

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like you were that there when you
would go to these countries. How much

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security and red tape did you have
to deal with or with NBC do a

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great job of taking care of you
guys, making sure it was smooth and

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silky as you went in there.
All right, two things, So first

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on the network level, so you
know, I worked at k NBC,

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but work for the network. It
is an entirely different story. It could

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not be any different. So when
you work for KNBC, you fly coach,

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you get to the country, you
get off the plane, you line

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up at customs, you go through, you're getting another line, you get

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your credentials. I mean, this
takes a long period of time. You

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go outside, there's a bus there, You get on the bus. The

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bus takes you to the quote media
village, and they're basically dorms, dorms

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that are either built or existing,
and you go and oftentimes it's two to

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a room. They have a little
McDonald's or something on site. If you

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want to go somewhere, you have
a bus pass. The bus takes you

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to where you want to go.
You walk through security. No seriously,

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this is what it's like. You
get inside, you have restricted areas,

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and then you wait, you try
to do your story, and then you

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go back to the bus, back
to the media village. And a lot

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of times at the Olympics, and
they're always the same stories. I mean

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unless God forbid, like the bombing
in Atlanta. Otherwise, say the exact

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same stories, pin trading, who's
trading? Pin? Huh? Who traveled

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the furthest to get to the Olympics. Hey, here's somebody from Mission VAH

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back home. They're here at the
Olympics. It's the same thing. You

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follow the local athletes. There's kind
of a playbook on how to do it,

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which of course drove me crazy because
I never wanted to do the same

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thing twice. Once we do one
Pin Trading story twenty years ago, I'll

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never do another one because I've already
done that. All right. That's how

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KNBC travels. Here's how the network
travels. Car takes you to the airport.

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You fly first class if you're going
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when I wasn't in Stamford, you
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Vancouver, Athens, Sydney, wherever
we went. Oftentimes you're on a charter

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flight. If not, you're flying
first class. You get off the plane.

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There's somebody standing right there waiting for
you. Hi, They've got a

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big NBC sign. You follow the
NBC person. They get to right through

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customs. You walk over, you
get your credential. They get your luggage

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for you. You walk outside,
there's a car there for you. You

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get in the car with your name
and it takes you to the five star

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hotel. That's the difference. Once
you get to the hotel, you have

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people that will drive you and in
turns that travel with you. In the

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foreign countries, they were assigned to
you. You need to go somewhere,

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you call them. They get in
the car with you and go. It's

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like when we were in Italy and
something happened to my eye. I don't

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know what it was. It was
the Winter Games in Turin, or to

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Reno as we called them, and
my eye was so swollen, and we

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were two days from going on the
air. So I went to which we

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had the NBC medical people. This
is what it was like. I said,

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look at my eye, and they
go, their own medical people travel

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there. Yeah. And at the
venues they had their own people come in

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and cook food for you, so
you didn't eat something and gets sick.

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Yeah, right, that catering.
So I said, oh my god,

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look at my eye. This is
terrible. They go, yeah, it's

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bad. I said, what can
we do? They said, what you're

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going to do? Is put on
that the big NBC jacket like the puffer

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jacket that we wore for the Winter
Games, and go with that person.

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So this guy starts talking to me
and we get in the car and we

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drive. We drive about ten minutes
and I look at something that looks like

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a library. It is enormous and
there are people lined up around the outside

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of what appears to be a library. So I'm thinking to myself, while

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these people really like to read,
why are they all waiting to get into

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the library? They must be the
smartest people in the world, the most

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inquisitive. So the guy parks the
car. We get out of the car,

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and now we start walking up the
steps. And I said to the

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guy, what is this and why
are we here? You just just follow

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me. I mean, Rodney,
there are people lined up around this place.

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It looked like it would take you
three hours to get in. I'm

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not exaggerating. We walk right up. So we walk up. There's somebody

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sitting at a desk, and as
I walk inside, I see all these

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people are now lined up against the
wall. They're all lined up against the

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wall. So the line from outside
is now windside and it's long. We

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walk right up the person. So
the line inside is just as long as

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the light outside. It's long.
I mean, just because you got inside

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doesn't mean you're doing anything yet.
They walked right in. So the guy

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I'm with talks to the person at
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the guys just follow me. So
we go down the hall and we go

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up some stairs and now we're on
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I now realize is not a library, this is a medical facility. So

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now we walk past all the people
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another table and somebody's sitting there,
and the guy talks to the person at

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the table, and the person at
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room. All right, So now
I feel that something's gonna happen here.

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I take my insurance cart out of
my pocket. Right, what do you

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need that for? Fred? Right? They look at me like I had

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been from another planet. Yeah,
yeah, I didn't realize. So we

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go into the room. The doctor
walks in. They give me this cream

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to put my eye, and he
told me to put compresses on it.

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I go back to the hotel in
Toronto. A day and a half later,

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it was fine, but that was
the network. That's how the network

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traveled. If I had had that
same problem with KNBC, yeah, you

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would have been in that line outside. I'd have been in the line.

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I would have been in the line
right, which means I would have started

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my work four days later because I
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Yeah, that was the difference between
working for the NBC television network and KNBC.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd
have been KNBC. You would have

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been doing the reports for an I
patch on. Yeah. That had called

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me the halfway man. That had
called me pas crazy though about the insurance

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part of it, because our insurance
is so screwed up over here that you

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didn't you know, it was like, okay, you're here, you're in

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Italy. This is the way we
do things. Our insurance, medical,

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all that stuff is taking care of. Just come on it, yeah,

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come on it. This is when
my son is in Japan, he's like,

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he's got anything wrong with him.
He walks in, It's cost him

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ten dollars stops, no matter what
it is. He's a student there,

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and it's just no matter what it
is, it's taking care of. There's

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no car, there's no filling out. There's no you know, filling out

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questionnaires and who's your carrier and who's
this and who's that. It's just come

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on in, we got you.
It's very different, yeah, very different,

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very different, But that's different than
network makes it. It makes me

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think of how it's different between when
I played for the Lions and when I

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played for the Cowboys. Right,
Lions, I would have been out on

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that line Cowboys, we got you
right in. You O can come on

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in. Let me look at you. You wear that star. You're like,

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okay, come on in, come
on right in. You want to

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hear a quick story? Yeah?
All right. This made me think of

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something. And it's all right,
Kevin, fine, Kevin's going up.

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Stop already, we'll do it.
On the other side. I heard about

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this. I'm gonna break. We
didn't even talk about it in our meeting,

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but I'm gonna tell you a story
when we come back, and you

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tell me what you think. All
right, all right, all right,

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go ahead, Ronnie, all right, when we come back, I'm gonna

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I'm gonna set something up. It
got me to thinking when you said the

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lines of the Cowboys, all right, I'm gonna set something up. And

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you tell me what you think.
All right, you got it? Okay,

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right, ah yeah, let's bring
it home back. Come on,

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Rodney Pete, fred Rogan, Freddie
was on a roll. Let's go,

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Freddie. Come on, tell me. I'm gonna tell you a story.

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You tell me what you think of
this as a guy that w competed at

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a high level both collegiately and in
the pros. So, uh, Junior

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colleges are very different, by the
way, California Community Colleges, it's a

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great place to get an education.
We talk about him every week. So

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there's a JC out here and it's
a College of the Desert. It's located

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in Palm Desert. So we had
a kid that was an intern for us,

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a baseball player. So he tells
me a story. He said,

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he's out there, he's throwing and
he feels something at his leg. He

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feels something in his leg. So
he goes to the trainers, because that's

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what you're supposed to do. They
look at it and they go, no,

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you're fine, don't worry about it. Here, put this heat thing

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on there and get back out there, all right. Turns out that he

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has a torn hamstring and a moniscus. Yeah, they told him, just

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put this thing on your leg.
So anyway, he's hobbling around, he's

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back out there and perform. You're
fine, go ahead, go ahead.

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He's an excruciating pain. He's hobbling
around, he can barely walk. And

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then they tell him, here's what
you should do. Stretch a little bit

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hamstring stretch. So he does what
they say. It gets worse. He

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goes back to them. He says, look, I think I maybe I

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should get an MRI or something.
I can't continue like this. I'm in

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terrible pain. They said, listen, if you go and get an MRI

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without us authorizing it, you have
to pay for it. Now he's injured

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playing for the school. You have
to pay for it. Well, he

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says, all right, how long
will it take? A month? A

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month? He waits the month because
if he went and had any outside medical

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care, they were done with him. He waits the month he has the

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check up. The guy says,
school said it takes a month for him

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to get checked up. Yeah,
and you go to where we send you

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because they had to have the insurance
approved. Guy's got a torn hamstring.

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Take some mon He goes yep,
it's torn, you shouldn't be playing.

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And his season was over. He
told me that. He said, there

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are three other kids at that school
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They looked at it and they said, well, here's what you gotta do

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if you want any further evaluation,
and you go and get it. You're

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paying for it. Now. I'll
give an example or something real quick.

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Okay, all right, so you
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me the story I'm going this is
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and my only experience is with Jack
at Chapman. It's a pre if they're

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in the preseason, conference hasn't started. I don't remember who they're playing.

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He goes up, he lays it
up, he hurts his ankle and you

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can tell he's in pain. All
right. They have to help him off

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early in the year. So he
gets off the court, and of course,

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you know, he decides he's in
a lot of pain and it's really

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swollen, but he's going out there
to play tomorrow. He's going to practice

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because you will do the same thing. Yeah, all right. He walks

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out there and he's hobbling. They
grabbed him and said, what are you

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doing? What do you think you're
doing while I'm out here, I'm just

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gonna, you know, ride the
bike and I'll shoot on one leg and

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then I'll run up and down.
They go, you are going to the

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doctor immediately, and this is where
you're going right now, and you are

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having an X ray and an MRI
right now. Get off the court.

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So now he's all pissed off.
Right he goes and a guy goes,

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you can't play. You get a
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He goes, yeah, I am. They would no, you're not.

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So that he went back. They
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coach and the coach that I can't
put you in. So after two weeks

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he just said I'm going in.
I don't care. I'm better. I'm

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going in. They said you need
another week. He goes, no,

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I'm taking another week. They go, fine, if you insist you're in

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a minute's limit. They put him
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They take out to go now,
shut up and sit down. We'll tell

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you when you're healthy enough to play. We're not letting you hurt yourself.

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But here these guys with a torn
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there, put this on there,
go go go uh go back in there,

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and then he's like, oh no, it's still hurt. And they

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got to wait a month to get
evaluated. It's crazy. It's crazy what

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they do. I was. I
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thing at USC. It's like,
you had the best of everything, right,

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they take care of you. You
you injure anything, they're they're they've

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they've got connections where every major doctor, the best of everything, and any

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little ailment you're going, You're going
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You have a toothache you didn't taken
care of. I get to the

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NFL and my first year in Detroit
and how the NFL works. These guys

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that were, you know, kind
of fighting to make the team and it's

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the first week of the season and
it's a critical time because guys are getting

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cut and guys are making the team
and they decide who's well. The rule

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is, you can't cut somebody when
they're hurt. In the NFL. If

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you get hurt like in preseason,
you get hurt in the game, or

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you get hurt in practice, you
can't just automatically cut somebody. Once they're

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hurt, you got to continue them
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that they're healthy and they're healthy enough, then then you can evaluate them again

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and say, okay, we're going
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remember vividly this happened often where guys
that were injured, and I can remember

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the veteran players saying, do not
do not go practice, do not go

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back on that field unless you are
healthy or you're one hundred percent healthy,

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and these guys go, I'm trying
to make the team. I want to

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make the team. I got to
get it back out there. They're going

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to lose my spot. And these
guys would go out there and they would

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try to practice, and the trainers
and doctors knew that they were not ready

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to go, and they would go
practice. And I saw this with my

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own eyes one time, where they
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of practice. The trainer would look
at the coach, and the coach would

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look at the trainer, and the
trainer give him a nod, and the

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trainer would look up at the video
guy, and the video guy would give

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the nod, and next thing you
know, that guy was like, I

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can't go I can't go. But
they got him on film practicing and the

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next day the guy was cutting.
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show whether you're healthy enough to practice? He was healthy enough to practice,

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now we have the right to release
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veteran guys, still listen to veterans
in the training room. Yeah, not

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go out there, do not dress, not go out at all unless you

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are one hundred percent healthy or at
least the healthy enough to go compete and

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play, because once they got you
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Ugly business. Ugly business, I
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ways. Yeah, well, what
do you think honestly about this, uh

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College of the Desert thing. It's
horrible, It is absolutely horrible that they

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would not And this is a college, a junior college, community junior college,

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it doesn't matter, it's a it's
a junior college that that is participating

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in competitive sports. Yes, that
they would not let the person get evaluated

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immediately after an injury. What if
the guy had blood clots, what if

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the guy had something else going on
that caused the hamstring issue? Or with

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the hamstring. There was implications in
it. They say, you can't get

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you can't get evaluated for a month, We can't get you in to see

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somebody for a month. And if
you go do it yourself, you gotta

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pay for it. That's my practice. And I thought, I mean,

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it really is. I mean I
saw what happened to Chapman and there was

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no way. And then I heard
that story. I want wait, that

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doesn't make any sense to me.
Oh they air on the side of caution,

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you're hurt. Yeah right, well
we're gonna make damn good and sure

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you're not before you go back out
there. Not And usually the trainers and

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doctors have autonomy over the coaches.
They overrule coaches. Even if there's a

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coach that said, oh you gotta
play hurting the old school guy, Oh

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you gotta go out there no matter
no. If the trainer or the doctor

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says he's not ready, they usually
overrule the coach and the right if you're

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if you're doing it right. Hmm, all right, I think I'm gonna

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look more into that because that struck
me. All right, let's have some

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spirituality and welcome on victim. The
Daily haikup. Come on, Vic,

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his sweet spots is everywhere, Fred
Rogan, Hello, Vic, his sweet

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spot is restoration hardware. Yeah,
fight yeahy vinc b You know it,

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Vic, you know it. To
find that chandelier at the front door in

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two days, that's unbelievable. Right
away. Let me take care of well

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instant props right there, right all. He won the home run derby with

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baby Oh Kevin fig Come on,
not best believe my friends and family were

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all there. And he goes deep
with his musical cuts. Totos lose ds,

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totos, those notches, Roddy Fossio
bang the gong. Yeah, ti

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Oscar Hernandez, I didn't even do
it, Roddy, how don't even do

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it? Man, old man,
old man. All right, well we'll

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continue with Vic. You never know
where it's coming. Come on, let's

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go gott to fit a strong Roddy
Pete, Fred Rogan, Vic the brick

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take him, Come on, go
ahead, Vic. I want to give

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some love again to ti Oscar Hernandez, the new Sultan of Swing, first

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sonder to win the derby. Did
we project ay to produce the power for

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the people. Let's go back in
time. You did, Vic, mad

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love to Taska, Hernandez getting the
start at the Globe tomorrow, the home

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run derby tonight. He's a shot
to win the one million dollars, that's

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the payoff. He's going up against
the polar Bear, Peter Lonzo. I'm

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thinking, I'm thinking Hernandez has a
shot. You are right, Vic.

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It was his derby man and his
wife Jessica was so beautiful and the embrace

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and what a night for Tasca Hernandez, the way of Tay, just the

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way of Ta Vic. Sad day
for the Kobe Bryant family and all fans

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of Kobe Bryant. Is there,
jelly Bean? Joe Bryant passed at sixty

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nine. You know, Joe was
a fabulous basketball player. You know he

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played in Europe seven seven years in
the NBA, play with the Clippers,

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he coached the Sparks. So a
tough tough day for the for the Brian

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family and all followers of the Great
Coal. But we love you, Joe.

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Joe passed at sixty nine. That's
right, Joe, Jellybean, And

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tell me, somebody tell me when
is Brinnie James going to hit a three

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in Summer League? When he does
Vic, when he does. It doesn't

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matter. Through the four games,
he's just awful. Bit Vic's awful.

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He's awful. Lot actually doesn't matter, you know what, doesn't look at

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it like this. Okay, he's
learning on the job. He's really not

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ready for that. But he's there
and he will develop as quickly as he

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can. Whatever expectation anybody may have, I think is not airbor. Where's

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Kobe not going to airball as shot? Those those those conversations. Yeah,

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that's fair, but that's a very
different story. I know it's different.

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But give a guy two minutes.
He got two minutes to just settle into

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being drafted and playing and just yah, unbelievable. Listen, the bottom line

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is this, and that's why we
didn't even bring it up today. He's

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not ready to be there. He's
going to learn on the job. Let

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him learn. Everybody knows what this
is. Everybody's aware of it. He's

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a good kid. Give him a
chance to learn, give him a chance

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to grow. Don't have any expectations
zero, You should have none. You

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shouldn't even think about it. You
should think he doesn't even exist. Just

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let him learn how to play and
grow, and then when he's ready,

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then we should talk about it.
But he's not. And it's like,

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which a lot of guys aren't.
I mean, the second round guy that

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got drafted, that that are just
lighting it up that we can go,

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Oh, he's a superstar right now. Yeah, and connect struggled until recently.

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So now he's starting to, you
know, settle in and make some

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shots. But it's summer League and
it's guys that are just you know,

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they're just getting their feet wet.
Everybody be a little bit patient. Yeah,

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give them time and tell me did
you expect him to be a vital

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part of the Lakers run to a
championship this year? I mean, I

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don't know who did. And if
you did, you're delusional. Well the

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focus is on him because of his
dad and how this all went through.

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But of course, again if you're
just really honest, really honest, he's

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not ready for this. He's got
to learn. He's going to struggle against

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guys like that. Why because he's
not talented? No he is? Could

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he be good? Sure? Is
the now level of competition. It's a

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different arena, right and these guys
aren't great. These guys aren't even great,

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and he's struggling. Okay, give
him a little time, then you'll

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see nothing's going to change. He's
not going anywhere they signed him, So

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let him grow into it. He
got a break. You gotta break his

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dad gotta break. Really, you
should have played in college another year.

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He didn't. He got this.
He's there. Just let him grow into

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its speak of college. You know
a former colleague at Fox Sports Radio,

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do Gotlieb, you know now the
head coach of Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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He says Kobe wouldn't crack off starting
lineup. He says Bridi would wouldn't crack.

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Yeah. Yeah, he wouldn't be
a coach in many places either,

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So and really don't keep a whole
lot with Doug. Gottlieb says he's the

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one that said Andrew Lux is a
coward for retiring. So really you gonna

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quote dog Gottlieb connected, connect give
me a break? Is finding a way

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Connected nineteen against the hated Celtics.
As soon as he goes oh for seven,

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and we're gonna say something about him, who connect? Yeah, they

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go on, Well, Connects had
a cold couple first couple of games.

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But he's find he's finding he's finding
the way he looked against the Celtics.

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It's the Summer League. We remember
Lonzo Ball. We're gonna, We're really

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gonna if we If that's the case, then then then everything we said about

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Lonzo Ball when they won the Summer
League, we should just hold true to

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that, right because we believe that's
that's the end all, that's the result

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of where they're all gonna. Because
people celebrated that, remember that, you

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and Fred and I were like rolling
our eyes. It's Summer League, right,

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People went crazy that the Lakers won
the Summer League. Well, the

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flip side of it is is he's
struggling in some so we got to overreact

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to that, but not overreact it
is, come on me a break.

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I don't want you guys to overreact
to anything but this Haiku Waka taka kage

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day two. Remember he's missed more
than a year of the Grand Sumo Tournament.

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He's back from injury. Won his
first match at Nogoya yesterday. So

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give it up for wakataka kage waka
taka kage. Oh yeah, I think

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we need more time on the sumos. Tomorrow we'll do Sumo Day three.

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It's it's really some stunning upsets,
but the yokas. Who know Tarafuji did

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rack up a win. So we'll
do day three as well tomorrow. But

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it's it's really getting crazy in Nagoya. It all leads back to the source,

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of course, with masa Okashiki.
Well, the summer haiku, it's

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from shiki go something like this,
the summer river. Although there's a bridge,

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my horse goes through the water.
I'm feeling you see nicely, doesn't

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vic? I always like I like
when we have a horse like cool,

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a horse, very very solid work. How about a horse? All right?

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And Rodney, let's enjoy the All
Star Game tonight. Yes, let's go