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Well, hello there ever, but
day, how are y'all doing? It

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is so good to see you all. Been away for a little while,

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but you know, sometimes absence makes
the heart more sweeter. I guess I

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don't know missing that, but anyway, thank you all everyone in the chat

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room. Hey David Barry, haven't
seen you in a while, my friend,

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what's up? Well? All the
rest of the moderators and everybody else,

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thank you for you know, being
here speaking favor over us all.

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Nothing missing, nothing broken, that's
important. And I've had a good time

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of being learning patience and endurance and
you know, et cetera. So anyway

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I have with me. I thought
it was just really kind of special to

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have writer Lee back on raised by
giants. My brother, how are you

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doing? How's it going, Wayne? How's everyone in the Good to see

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everyone, Soul Tribe. What's happening? Uh? Yeah, happy to be

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here. Thanks so much for having
me on Wayne, It's been minutes since

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I've been on over here. Appreciate
it has been. Are you missing the

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snow? Because I know Gilbert's there
in Denver. I know they're getting their

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asses kicked where I lived in Highland's
Ranch, they're getting dumped on and not

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missing it a bit. So how
about yourself up where you are at.

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We got like nothing, which is
really interesting. We got like a little

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dusting, like everywhere else around us
just got like fifteen inches, like over

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a foot, and like we just
missed it. It was unbelievable. Everyone

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thought that it was going to be
really bad. So everyone was at the

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grocery stores and everything late last night
trying to stock up and everything. And

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then I was like, yeah,
it's probably not gonna do anything. It

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kind of rained and fluttered when I
was on my way to the gym last

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night. But then when I woke
up this morning, nothing nothing on the

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ground, And I was like,
wow, we dodged a bullet on that

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one. Because a lot of people
it's really bad. I just saw a

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video of fifteen inches like a dog
went outside and just yeah, yeah,

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they're comparing this to I think the
March storm in twenty twenty one, and

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we had eight foot snow drifts in
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what did they call that snow apocalypse
or something like that. I mean,

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so we have friends that live right
there in Ken Carroll. You know,

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it's just right up to the hog
back and they're catching hell. I mean,

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and I don't miss it at all. It was eighty two degrees yesterday.

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I even got a suntan, so
wow. It's actually been a really

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strange winter. Which we had a
really strange summer too, Like it wasn't

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really hot at all. It rained
like for two months straight, which was

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a nice Colorado and needed the rain. But and the winter has been strange

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too. It's only snow like once
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drought. Really strange, really really
strange weather. So brother, I know

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when everyone in the last of the
Soul tribe. By the way, hello

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everybody, much love to all of
y'all, missed you. Super Galactic says

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winter was not as bad as I
thought. Yeah, yeah, it it

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depends I guess where you are.
I mean, yeah, so much changing

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to the planet the universe. But
anyway, last we spoke your your father

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transcended crossed over and I was on
with you as you got back. And

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last I heard you and Jay were
heading out to the West coast. Yeah,

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we did a little travel out there
films some some footage for the documentary

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from the few interviews for our second
documentary, which is going to be on

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MK all Try and Stanley Kubrick because
Jay is like a Stanley Kubrick expert.

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You know, he's the one that
started the whole faking of the moon landing

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from the Shining movie. And not
a lot of people know that because it's

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been regurgitated over and over and over
again and people will post clips and then

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like really not give him credit.
But he did that with his Kubrick's Odyssey

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films. And went up there to
Laurel Canyon, really strange area. That

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was the first time that I'd ever
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but never went up into Laurel Canyon
or did any of that stuff. And

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it's kind of a dump. I'm
like, what are they doing? I

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thought this was supposed to be like
prestigious actors and like prestigious filmmakers and all

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this, and it's like a dump
up in there. But we got up

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to Lookout Mountain. We got up
to Lookout Mountain there where Jared Leto owns

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that big house on top of the
mountain where he's supposedly like running like a

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cult out of the Lookout Mountain building, which I don't know anything about it.

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I have to look into it more
to really understand. But that's what

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people are saying that he's like running
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But it's a huge, huge house. But overlooking La up there at

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the top of Lookout Mountain is incredible. Yeah, we got up there.

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We got some really good shots of
that, and just looking down over La,

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I was like, wow, I
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the sixties and the seventies, you
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nicer, but it's just gone downhill
and downhill. The roads are roads are

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bad, like it's just really it's
just a strange atmosphere now. I felt

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like that it was a lot happier
and a lot more like umction to it,

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and things were flowing nicely back then. But now it's just like a

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dumpster fire. The Magic laught man, I mean, you know, they

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they suck a doll up. Uh
and of course everyone. I don't know

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if people have seen the documentary Laurel
Canyon, but you know, the whole

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thing with Mama Cass buying the house, and it kind of reminded me of

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like family connection because you never knew
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but these were all pioneers in you
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and I think they sucked it all, tried, and when they left,

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everyone just trying to build on the
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the of what happened there. But
yeah, yeah, like there wasn't any

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zero, like attractive women too,
which I thought was kind of strange as

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well, and like what's going on
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see one attractive woman the entire time
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like, what is this? What's
how Well, not that that's not that

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that's a requirement, but it was
just like strange not to see really any

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attractive people. And I've really been
like looking into like words and the double

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meanings of like words, and the
double meanings of a lot of these buzzwords

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that are really used around the community, you know, especially when it comes

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to ufology and stuff like that,
like national security threat, alien invasion,

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crash retrieval and things like that,
because I believe that these words have double

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meanings and the perception of what the
people think that they mean, there's actually

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something under that. I believe that
a lot of these have multiple things.

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Like I've spoken about it a few
times on my show in the past.

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Is that you can change the word
alien just by adding one word in front

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of the word alien, and then
it becomes a completely different word. Right,

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You just add illegal in front of
alien and you get a completely different

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meaning. And you know how like
people are always talking about all there,

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they're always here, they've always been
here, they're always around us. Well,

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you take illegal, put it before
alien, then you really encompass what

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they're actually talking about, because they
are they are here, they've always been

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here, they've always been around us, right, And it's the same with

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like national security threat. There's a
double meaning to national security threat as well.

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You know, like it's not a
national security threat because they're invading our

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airspace and invading you know, they're
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It's a national security threat because it's
more than likely all of our technology

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and if another country finds out that
it's our technology, then we're exposed.

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That's the national security threat. And
it's just been really interesting because there's a

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lot of things that are like that, and not only like with the words

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and the buzzwords, but it's also
with like programs, right, like official

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government programs as well, like the
Stargate Project. People said, oh,

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well, the Stargate project is you
know, a time portal, like an

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actual real stargate where people can go
in and time travel and do all that

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stuff from like ancient mythology, And
well no, it was an actual government

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DA Army intelligence program on the study
of remote viewing and psychic phenomenon use for

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a data collections intelligence operation. Do
you believe in its interest? I had

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my notes here because we haven't even
talked. But so the question that I

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I have is, all, right, understanding biological organisms, which we are,

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the elements of space itself. Without
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not we don't even know what type
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some of it, and then you
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So my question that I have is
do you because you've been covering this

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on your channel, I've been watching
that and Kilpert when you were talking about

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the ugly girls, I was thinking, what happened to Brian Wilson, you

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know Califhony girls. But anyway,
so do you think from what you have

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been able to ascertain to this point, that there are actual biological beings from

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other galaxies actually visiting Earth. I
mean, because as I think about this

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more and more, I don't see
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you look at light. A light
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all right, so even moving at
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your particular point of view, Einstein
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the speed of light as the problem, not after he could probably go faster

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than that. Or are these beings
are they bending space other Do they have

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the ability to form bubbles in which
they can go from dimension dimension? Do

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they die? If they die,
do they have a soul or a spirit?

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I mean, what if you have
found out Well, that's normally what

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people say when you try to debunk
the physical extraterrestrial hypothesis that they're coming here

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from other planets. They'll they'll turn
it and they'll say, oh, well

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they're interdimensional or they're extra dimensional,
or they'll even create a new name hyper

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ultra extra dimension or whatever, you
know, and terrestrial ultraterrestrial, Yeah,

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that's one. That's yeah. So
it's like it's there's always like an excuse

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whenever you start talking about the extraterrestrial
narrative, and there's always something else that

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the true believers, you know,
throw into the pod and stir it up

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and mix it up. But whenever
you look back through the real history of

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ufology, you just see all of
the deception and all of the mis and

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disinformation surrounding UFOs. And it's not
missing disinformation in the way that we think

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that it's missing disinformation. It's actually
missing disinformation in a deceptive way, encouraging

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the belief in extraterrestrials, not covering
up extraterrestrials. And when you go back

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to the very first sighting of UFOs, well, I mean, people can

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argue all that they want. The
UFOs have been happening for thousands of years.

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You know, they can read the
Bible and you know, use the

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Book of Ezekiel and say that that's
a UFO. But they weren't called UFOs

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back then. Most people saw pillars
in the sky or shields or The only

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picture of Yahweh is in what we
would define today would be a craft that

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produced a field around because apparently he
can't exist in this realm. I are

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this atmosphere, I don't know,
And that's the other thing I have.

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How do beans if they're on another
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Are you telling me that there's uniformity
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atmospheres. What are the odds of
that happening. Yeah, there's absolutely no

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way. If that's possible, then
they would have to wear some sort of

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shielding protection. They would have to
You would never see their true form because

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they wouldn't be able to walk around
in their true form because the atmosphere is

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different and gravity is different. Our
sun is different from any of the other

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suns on any of the other planets. So it's really I don't have any

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kryptonite. I am fucking Superman.
But it's all right, that's right.

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They're actually making a new Superman movie. I got pushed back JJ Abrams the

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Legend of Superman Legends or something like
that. Yeah, okay, jj Abrams.

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Shit, I don't know, I'm
blinking on his name. It's really

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early. But the head of DC
that James gunn Yeah, James gun is

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directing it. But when you look
back at the UFO sightings of like Modern

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Times, which Arrow just came out
with a report five days ago that lists

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all of the different reports that they've
investigated since nineteen forty seven and right before

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a blue book, Yeah, and
Roswell. I guess Roswell would be the

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most current one after that, Yeah, and listing the explanations for what they

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were. And it's a really interesting
document if people get the chance to check

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it out. But then people are
like, oh, well, the government's

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just covering up the extraterrestrial phenomenon,
and I'm like, no, They've been

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saying the exact same thing since forty
seven. They've never changed their stance.

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They've never said that extraterrestrials exist.
Now, the thing that they have said,

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you know, in twenty twenty when
that Pentagon report came out, was

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that UFOs are real and UAPs are
real. But they've never denied the existence

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of UFOs or UAPs. They've only
said that it's not extra trestrial and has

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nothing to do with extraterrestrials. So
when you go back and look at the

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first modern sighting, which was with
Kenneth Arnold in Oregon, wasn't it or

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Washington, Washington, Washington. Yeah, Well he had a few other sightings.

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One was in California, I believe, another one was in Oregon and

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then Idaho. I believe I would
have to pull up my notes. I'm

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just going off the top of my
head. But he had many sightings,

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some say eight to eleven sightings after
his initial sightings that really no one talks

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about. But a lot of those
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natural phenomenon, and a lot of
the people that talked to him after he

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would see these other sightings after in
nineteen forty seven would be like, oh,

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well, it's just ducks, it's
just headlights and all that. So

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it didn't really get it as much
attention. But he did see things like

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every subsequent year up until like sixty
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something like that, and then there's
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there, and then he sees it. Has a couple more sightings in the

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seventies, in the late fifties,
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on Mount Rainier, Washington, in
nineteen forty seven, he seen a string

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of nine objects. He said that
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they didn't have any tails. So
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and told his friend al Baxter about
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and then a few other pilots of
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like, oh, are you sure
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craft. And it's interesting because he
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told this, told a story to
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Nolan Skiff published a news report and
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and Washington nine flying saucers. And
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Press for worldwide distribution, and then
the flying saucer and narrative was born.

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But Arnold never said that the shape
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that they moved like saucers skipping across
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the craft was boomerang shaped, bat
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to it as a pie pan.
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the shape of the craft was a
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then Arnold came out with a drawing
of the craft. And this is the

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most accurate depiction of what Kenneth Arnold
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would think that whenever that photo came
out that it would stop all the flying

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saucer talk because Wayne, this doesn't
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this does not look like the portrayed
depiction of what people were led to

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believe that UFOs and flying saucers look
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bat shaped boomerange shaped craft. And
then when you looks cling on to me,

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But that's just my failing. Yeah, something the straight out of Star

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Trek. But really, when you
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me find a photo that doesn't have
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it is so, but when you
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or one of the first prototypes of
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if you looked up pictures of the
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if they were flying in formation and
Kennethornald seeing these at a distance, that

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it could be mistaken for some exotic
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back to a question, are these
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other systems. It's it's interesting because
the narrative is this merely well, I

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think the evidence is so overwhelming in
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There is a phenomenon. Now,
whether it is of this earth, whether

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it is of our technology. I
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it gets into are we really the
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on with you, you're so if
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where is the disinformation campaign coming.
Is it to get us to not believe,

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or is it to get us to
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this basically constantly questioning. I think
it's a little bit of everything that you

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mentioned. It's a multi faceted campaign. You can because you can use both

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sides. Right, you can use
the believers, I want to believe believers

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believers and you can use them,
and then you can also use the the

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skeptics side as well. And it's
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the left, you got the right, you got the extreme left, you

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got the extreme right, and it
just creates division and confusion. And that's

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ultimately what deception operations really do is
to sow confusion, to confuse people to

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a level that they don't know what
to believe, and not knowing what to

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believe is better for the intelligence communities
than being on one side or the other.

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So what's the endgame? Because everything
has to have is obviously going to

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be concluded into an objective. And
so I'm thinking in my head, all

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right, so what's the endgame?
Here's what's the purpose. But then the

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question immediately hits my mind, and
I'm thinking, wait a minute, who's

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making money off this? I mean
that anything to do does anything in the

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world today, it's got money associated
to it. Someone is making a buck?

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Now who? And then why?
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coming from. Well, it's really
interesting because you can kind of whenever you

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try it back the term of flying
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a term that was being used sixty
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this gentleman named George Lewitski. He
created this term flying saucer for these little

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clay pigeons. It was called trap
shooting. Yeah, and I do do

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that all yeah. And originally trap
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then whenever the you know, animal
cruelty became like popular. They didn't want

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to shoot live animals for target practice
anymore, so they changed them into these

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little clay disc and they were called
flying saucers. And the sport of see

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look at that it looks like rusted. Many of those a modern interpretation of

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what people believe that UFOs look like. And the sport was a very popular

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sport. It was adopted by the
Olympics. It was six hundred thousand people

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by nineteen twenty had all known the
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Two, the military adopt adopted the
sport and the term. So what didn't

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the Germans have like three prototypes that
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I mean, you know, they
had it looked almost like your clay

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pissions what they call those. There's
a I'll think of it, but apparently

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that's what the Allies, uh,
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any that's like with the very speculatory and

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theory thing that they actually have the
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really got to see it up close, and well I'm sure people did,

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but they weren't able to come out
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like it's a kind of a theory
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Now, they did have the Glakca
bell technology, which required a bunch of

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energy and a bunch of electricity running
to it, and it would put off

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a lot of radiation and it would
let it like rise up off of the

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ground, which I have come to
the conclusion that maybe that was like the

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engine or the the thruster or the
power source of the craft, and it

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was just like a component of the
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Germany and saw the bell, they
didn't have the rest of the craft to

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know what it even went to.
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is is that the Nazis still say
that they got that knowledge because of their

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occult knowledge. Yeah the uh forget
Marina a brahm of it. No,

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Rena Orsonage was the lady that supposedly
channeled entities on how to build one of

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these craft and which then it goes
back further than that. It goes back

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to like John d Well, what
about the Hindu and they're they're veramas.

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the Japanese also had something similar to that

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as well. There's some some drawings
and some pictures of a really strange I

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think it's in the Bellagida that they
actually talk about. There was three different

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versions. There was one for heavy
lift, there was another for people movers,

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and then the third one was designed
for royalty, which then brings into

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the question, well, you know, we have all these stories, but

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does that, you know, solidify
it that is extraterrestrial craft. To me,

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it doesn't, Well, they can't
be extraterrestrial. They were made here,

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so they would be terrestrial craft exactly. And then when you look at

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the crash retrieval buzzword, you think, oh, well, because when people

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think crash retrieval, they think,
oh, well, it had to have

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happened in modern times. Someone had
to have seen this craft while out of

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the sky, or a military personnel
slid on radar, or another country called

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the United States and had them come
excavate this craft in another country, some

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kind of exotic craft. And I'm
like, well, that doesn't necessarily have

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to be true, Like, it
doesn't matter how much time passes in between

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finding something. Well, it's the
nerd bird painting of what is it?

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Sixteen fourteen or I believe that shows
some sort of freaking battle happening up in

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the sky. I mean, the
artists caught it, and we know that

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there were people that were dying.
I mean, that was an actual event

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captured. So it tells me and
you mentioned John d So here's a crazy

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question. What if there is a
group let's say we can use the word

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elite, it's overused today, but
what if there were a core group of

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humans that have had this knowledge passed
down for thousands of years? The Samarians

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they had a craft. I mean
I studied the Bible extensively. In the

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book of Zachariah. Zachariah twelve,
it talks about this what he saw as

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a carpet rolled up on two ends
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But still yet it tells me that
what if there was a core group

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that have had this technology and have
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I mean, is that so off
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I think that that is a very
plausible explanation for it. And because I'd

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want aliens to be part of the
fall guy, I don't want them to

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think that they're fucking humans driving this. Hell, no, we want the

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little gray dudes because they're never going
to look at us. They'll never think

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of investigating where the potential. And
some what I saw in the chat room

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said, you're right, who's making
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I'm just a common guy, but
that to me seems to be where

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one of the problem is. You
start looking into this, you may end

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up well like the guy for Boeing
whistleblower. Yeah, the yeah, when

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you follow the money. That's why
I brought up the whole military basically taking

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over the flying Saucer narrative and the
support of flying Saucers to train their airmen

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before World War Two, which is
almost identically what has happened with uifology and

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disclosure. Now the military and the
three letter organizations have basically hijacked this entire

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thing from the public and they have
taken it over. And here I don't

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mean to sound rhetorical in this,
but I just got the feel of the

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Vatican on this. I mean,
it's got that that same feel. But

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because I don't know if if and
here's the thing, it seems to be

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more Western based technology than what we
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you know, I think about the
Chinese. They've been here far longer than

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what we think Western esoteric knowledge has
been. Yeah, and there's a yes,

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all right map of all the sightings
and when all the sightings start that

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doctor David Moorehouse was talking to me
about. Let me see if I can

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pull it up and screenshare it really
quickly, because it really it's a I'd

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love to see it. It's a
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it shows you when all all of
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nineteen forty seven, and it's primarily
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United States, which is very interesting
to me. Let me see if I

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can screen share I smell a rat. Yeah, you can share it.

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You don't need permission, do you? Yeah? You have to. There

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we go, there, you go
cool, and I smell a rat,

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big that rat. But it's just
interesting how all of the sightings all basically

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happen in the United States. They
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you know, and then it is
just like propagated like that. Okay,

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here we go, get the screen
share desktop one all right. Can you

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see this? I can see it
coming up there. We go, okay,

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so boom, like right now is
when it starts lighting up, and

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that was around nineteen late forties.
Now you see it getting bigger. This

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is probably around the eighties. Now
we're in around the nineties. It's picking

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up. There's a pattern in it. This is the world. This is

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the world right here. Look at
how big the United States is, Like,

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how lit up the United States is
senting right, it's not right at

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all at all. I mean,
look at that. That's that's all the

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United States. It's basically completely lit
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there's I mean there's still a lot
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the Midwest. But look at the
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and then I look over here to
England. Yeah, England is lit

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up. Something's wrong here, I
mean this is there is something wrong here

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in just visually you can see this
in your mind. For my mind,

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I'm going, okay, so what
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that is weird. And look in
China virtually nothing nothing. The other area

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I find very interesting is the Middle
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area of Israel Palestine that that whole
huh yep, unbelievable, isn't it the

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reason? Look away? Yep,
Now there's something wrong here. There's definitely

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something wrong the visual of this.
I was like, what, wow,

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So what was the conclusion that the
the person who put this together what they

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had to have drawn some conclusion?
I mean that, come on, you're

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telling me that this is natural.
And look at it's really been the United

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States that has driven this complete narrative. And then as you were showing that,

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I'm thinking to myself at the same
time, this phenomenon is now intermixed

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with religion. It has direct religions
connotations to it, military, I mean,

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deep state this This has got the
feel of a takeover. This is

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this is conditioning. Takeovers sometime take
one hundred years or more. This is

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conditioning. I'm you know, I
was born in fifty five and so I

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remember growing up in California watching the
B rated science fiction movies, you know,

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of big saucers coming down, huge
robots, and this is what permeated

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my generation to and we just put
passed it forward. And it's also wrapped

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into the New Age spiritual beliefs.
What really started with that I Am cult

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in the early thirties with Guy and
the Ballad that really took a lot of

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the occult ideas of that time and
formulated their own ideology and their own theology

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and their own belief systems ripping off
like Alena Bravlovski, Igar Casey and people

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the occult writers of that time,
and they propagated their own religious belief and

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which had to do with you know, Saint Germaine and some form of extraterrestrials.

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And you know, it's a it's
a compounding, it's a regurgitation,

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and it's done as a it's a
deception. And when you look at the

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Paul Bennewitz story in the Paul Bennowooz
case in nineteen seventy nine, and you

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really beg into that thing, like
your mind will just be completely changed on

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the entire subject. I mean,
you can read the book Mirage Man.

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That's like a must read for anybody
that's looked at the barney and who was

405
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:59.559
Betty Hill. You know, their
abduction story started the whole abduction genre.

406
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.079
You know, aliens coming down.
And as you were talking and I'm connecting

407
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.280
the dots in my head and I'm
going, you know, so I'm seeing

408
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.840
this propagation in the United States,
It's like, this is not natural.

409
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.519
And then you look at what's happened
with the United States has done, and

410
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.360
then I'm thinking, well, it
was this the precursor of eventually to AI.

411
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:28.719
I mean, this has got the
feel of a takeover. It does,

412
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.880
and it's a it's a fake takeover, and it's a hoax takeover to

413
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:38.000
make you believe that it's something that
it's not. Whenever it's human intervention,

414
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:43.199
it's humans that are doing it to
humans. And I agree with you in

415
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.239
that maybe it does have something to
do with AI, because if you're if

416
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:52.840
you're looking to the skies and you're
constantly in belief that it's extraterrestrials, then

417
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:59.000
anything can be gotten away with because
they know for a fact that it's not

418
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:04.360
extraterrestrial and has nothing to do with
extra traustrials. So whenever they've convinced the

419
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:09.760
public that it is extraterrestrials, then
they can do whatever they want. David

420
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:16.159
varies and he says, they all
they only speak English the e teas that's

421
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:21.400
what I always configure. So is
English like this freaking universal language out there.

422
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:23.880
I mean, it's a it's a
gutter language. And I'm thinking that,

423
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.480
you know, yeah, everyone everyone
in the universe speaks any even God

424
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.400
speaks English. That's right. That's
another really interesting aspect of it too.

425
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.599
It's like, and we can only
communicate with like a certain percentage of the

426
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.360
world. I mean, I know
Google Translate has made it easier before the

427
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.840
longest period of time. If you
only know one language, you're only communicating

428
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:52.480
with maybe ten percent of the entire
world. Like that's mind blowing that we

429
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.119
just can't go and communicate with whoever
we want to communicate because they speak a

430
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:02.679
different language. Yeah. Really,
we're getting robbed of a lot of experiences.

431
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.519
And that's a big reason why I
did that show on Japan and you

432
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:15.599
know, learning about now with Lorenzo, learning about the culture of Japan,

433
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:21.840
because we don't get really any information
on any other countries when it comes to

434
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.960
the way that they live or the
way that their government operates or their daily

435
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.800
lives. Right, we only get
information on other countries when it's like bad

436
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.119
and like horrible news, or there's
like a bombing or there's a natural disaster

437
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.880
or something along the lines of that
or an assassination or whatever. We don't

438
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:44.519
really learn about what other countries are
doing on like a daily basis. So

439
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:51.679
that was a really eye opening conversation
for me and how Japan operates in the

440
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:59.400
kindness and respect that they have for
one another and their culture. He was

441
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.559
saying that people will take naps in
the park for hours at a time.

442
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.679
They'll just leave their stuff in the
park and then come back a day later

443
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.920
and it's all still there. You
can never do that anywhere in the United

444
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.880
States ever. No, and and
and and then, so I'm continually drawn

445
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:22.639
back right on the whole thing though
of there's it, and then and that

446
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:30.519
that graph was very uh telling.
So who's looking into the investigation? Who's

447
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.000
who? Would you say? And
I've seen your guests coming on. Are

448
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.760
they part of exposing? Do they
know what this agenda is? Do they

449
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:49.159
know? It seems very complex,
very sophisticated, And the vast majority of

450
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.079
people it's it's it's above them.
They don't want to stop and think about

451
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:57.239
this, you know, because the
attitude is is, well, what can

452
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.960
I do about it? Actually,
thank you probably do a lot, but

453
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:09.079
then again I don't know. Yeah, this should be an entire documentary series.

454
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:15.199
You should do one going into this
whole thing, because it's I think

455
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:22.800
I will personally believe that it's one
of the biggest deceptions in modern times,

456
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:28.920
in modern history. And it's once
you peel back the layers, you realize

457
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.920
you know what's going on, and
that doesn't really stop the questions. It's

458
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:37.800
like what you were asking earlier,
well, why why are they doing this?

459
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:45.079
Why are they spreading all this deception
around UFOs and extraterrestrials. And one

460
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.199
of those conclusions is because it's our
technology, and they don't want other people

461
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.000
to know that it's our technology.
And it's gotten so far out of hand

462
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.599
that there's no putting a lid on
it anymore. You know. They did

463
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.000
all the disinformation surrounding Paul Benowitz.
They broke into Paul Bennowitz's house, replaced

464
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.360
his computer with an NSSAY modified computer
to make him believe that he was in

465
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:15.360
contact with the extra trastriers, and
then he went out and told a lot

466
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:20.280
of the researchers and a lot of
the ufologists of that time in the seventies,

467
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.440
eighties and in the nineties, the
miss and disinformation that the NSSA was

468
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.079
giving him that he didn't know was
a deception. He thought that there was

469
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:38.360
extraterrestrials. Almost everything within the mythology
of extraterrestrials can be tracked back to Paul

470
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:47.000
Benowitz in nineteen seventy nine from the
Air Force Special Investigators, investigators, you

471
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:54.599
know, solidifying his his preconceived notions
that it's extraterrestrials. The NSA feeding him

472
00:43:54.679 --> 00:44:01.280
false and miss and dis information surrounding
extra trestrials. A lot of things came

473
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.960
up out of that. That the
contract with ETS and with Dwight Eisenhower came

474
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:13.000
out of that. The extra trestrials
are here for resources and they're the ones

475
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:22.079
that are abductings came out of that. That the don't say the deLuce in

476
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.599
New Mexico came out of the Paul
Bennewood story. So, and it's all

477
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:32.039
missing to this information from NSA agents
and Air Force officers, special investigators,

478
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:38.400
and they knew that at some point
he was going to go out and talked

479
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:44.840
to all these UFO researchers like John
Lear, Bill Cooper, Bill Moore,

480
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:51.119
Linda Moultenhowe and all of these all
of these people and was going to spread

481
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.400
that, and it just took on
a life of its own. And that's

482
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:00.400
why they more than likely they were
silent on it for like thirty year forty

483
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:05.440
years because they just let the public
roll with it and keep propagating it.

484
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.840
And then all these UFO conferences come
up and start popping up, and all

485
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:13.199
these people are paying all this money
to go hear these UFO researchers and these

486
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.760
people talk about this stuff, you
know, and they just let it simmer

487
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:22.239
and they were like, holy,
I guarantee you. Somebody in the intelligence

488
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:30.159
community set back and was like,
what have we done? Yeah, because

489
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.440
it seems like this is like a
virus. I mean, you can create

490
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:43.280
this unique virus in a lab and
within its environment that it was created in,

491
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:49.360
it remains neutral. But you put
it into a foreign environment, now

492
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.599
you've got a problem. Much like
this, this is a mind virus.

493
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.519
So to what end is this heading
towards? Because as I look at humanity

494
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:07.480
today, there is thistasa mitosis there
we go that is but testasized on us.

495
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:13.760
We are a species that it's just
me. But I think we're losing

496
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:19.159
it more and more each day,
and we're running towards this. Now,

497
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.400
does this play a role in that? Is is there going to be something

498
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.639
like Project Bluebean? You know,
are we going to wake up and start

499
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.320
seeing these images in the sky swearing
that these are ships, that these are

500
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:39.719
actually extraterrestrial ships, when in fact
they're a manipulation of light you know that

501
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.719
someone is using or are they real? I mean, this is where it

502
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:52.639
becomes an issue because it can literally
drive a species nuts. That's what happened

503
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:57.360
to Paul Bennowitz. It turned it
in pretty much crazy. You had to

504
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:07.280
be psychiatrically hospitalized. Is over this
whole ordeal and the fake alien invasion is

505
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.400
already here. It's like what I
was talking about at the beginning. Yeah,

506
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.199
it's here, all right, It's
already here, and it's been here

507
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:22.760
and it's just been wide open and
they're just a couple of hundred miles yes,

508
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:29.000
yeah, right. Does that not
make more sense than because even when

509
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.920
you look at the word extraterrestrial,
and you break down the word extraterrestrial,

510
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:44.159
it just means other land. Yeah, what is south of the United States?

511
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:51.599
What is north of the United States? Yeah, other land? I

512
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.400
said, I keep on looking at
this, and then I always put the

513
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:59.159
esoteric spin to it, because to
me, it's about control. This is

514
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:05.519
what our species, Homo sapiens,
seem to have their great flaw as to

515
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:12.880
our predecessors, the Neanderthals, Chromagneus, etc. That we seem to be

516
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:20.159
prone to manipulation and control. It
seems like that that's what we want the

517
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.039
most, is our lives to be
controlled. We want to know what time

518
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.000
we should get up, We want
to know what time we should eat,

519
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.239
what time we should go to work, school. Everything is planned for us

520
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.360
from the moment we enter into this
realm, and with that we have this

521
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.039
sense of being. Now you come
in and disrupt that and say, but

522
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.559
that does that's meaningless? You know
for what time you should be getting up

523
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:51.760
to, what time you should be
eating. It should be your decision,

524
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:59.039
not the general out there. And
I keep thinking that there has to be

525
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:04.960
an end game. What is it? Is it really control or is it

526
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:10.960
is there something more nefarious going on
here? Again? I think that it's

527
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.360
kind of all the above, because
I believe that it got completely out of

528
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:22.760
control and they kind of just started
scrambling for how to use it in their

529
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:29.159
benefit. That's why it took them
so long. So is this, Oh

530
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.480
well, yeah, UFO's and UAPs, there's out that we're confirming it now.

531
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:37.440
You know, they it took them
a long time to figure out their

532
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:46.159
angle on it because they didn't realize
how quickly that the perception operation was going

533
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:52.079
to take off and spread around to
other people in the community. They didn't

534
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.920
really, I don't one percent believe
that they did not think that it was

535
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.280
going to be this popular. So
let me ask you, do you think

536
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:07.920
when I studied angeology angels under Lester, some of all this goes back decades

537
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:14.920
and decades ago, it was accepted
that there were different classes of angels and

538
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.719
some had the ability that they could
move through space time, but there was

539
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:25.039
the lower class that actually had what
we would call vehicles. They had ships,

540
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:29.519
which we would use in the modern
terminology. So my question, just

541
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:35.960
throwing it out there from what you
had, is this of a technology of

542
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.280
a different class of beings that we
somehow worship. You know, it's involved

543
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:45.800
in our cultism, it's involved in
our paganism. Is this what we're seeing?

544
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:50.800
Is this a form of what you
could read in the Bible or the

545
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:57.719
Qur'an or any other book out there
that these unseen beings, these invisible beings

546
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:02.719
that traveled through the sky chariots of
fire. That's what the Old Testament,

547
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.840
Saint Palmas is. This what we're
dealing with. And while you were talking,

548
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:14.000
I kept on coming up with this, this whole structure of what spears

549
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:20.440
are. And part of my Biblical
training was to understanding and now we know

550
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.599
it from a science, this firmaent. There is this thing called the firmanent,

551
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.400
where there is a host. This
is where these beings exist in.

552
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:36.000
Yeah. Yeah. The Kardaliski cloud
which is around the Earth is full of

553
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.559
plasma. Yeah yeah, Well,
I mean when you think of like ancient

554
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.559
times and these people seeing these types
of sietings, I still go back to

555
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:57.199
a slightly more advanced species of being
that was here while a lower society was

556
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:04.400
also here, and that explains how
they had craft and because it was a

557
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:09.039
slightly more I mean, if you
had an airplane back three thousand years ago,

558
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.280
people are gonna be like, what
is this, what's happening? You

559
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.400
know what magic? Is this?
Their witches? Let's burn them, you

560
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:21.599
know what I mean? And the
sound would be like the sound of locusts,

561
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:31.079
which is the thrusters of of the
jet right, And that makes uh

562
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:37.760
because if it's just a slightly more
advanced society that let's say, it's not

563
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:42.199
even anti gravity, it's not even
it's just like what the public has,

564
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.400
like airplanes and stuff. Well,
the people back then it would have been

565
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:52.519
magic. It would have been this
incredible technology that no one had ever seen

566
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:58.639
before. And that's probably why it
was described as like being on fire and

567
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:04.280
looking like a chariot and all that
going through the sky. And I'm sure

568
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:07.400
some of them had problems. I'm
sure some of them caught on fire,

569
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:12.760
you know, crash getting and crashed, and I think they did a lot

570
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:17.760
of that is back to the archaeological
aspect of this. You know, you

571
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.760
you go back. You know,
if we went to the Middle East right

572
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:28.280
now and we did a an archaeological
dig and we found something that was some

573
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.800
kind of advanced technology that we don't
know what it is, that's still going

574
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.159
to be a that's going to be
a crash retrieval. It doesn't matter how

575
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:39.320
much period of time has passed in
between the thing, you finding the thing

576
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:45.440
and now it could be hundreds it
could be thousands of years old, it's

577
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:51.840
still going to be a crash retrieval. So that's the double meaning of the

578
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.800
word crash retrieval. And everyone loves
to bring that word up, like,

579
00:53:55.039 --> 00:54:00.880
you know, it's crashed extraterrestrial craft. Well not necessarily. It could be

580
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.960
craft that from our ancient past that
we dug up in modern times. But

581
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:09.239
they're still calling it a crash retrieval
because it still is a crash retrieval.

582
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.440
Oh, this has got you know, when you start applying this it because

583
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.800
there has to be a reason.
Again, if these beings have the ability

584
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:30.199
to transcend space miles, then it's
beyond our capacity to think of. But

585
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:37.440
I just don't see biological beings that
the whole idea of space travel itself.

586
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.199
The impossibility is, and the fact
is, I don't think humans will ever

587
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.239
be out in space. We can't
figure out between here and Mars. The

588
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:51.159
concern is is that with the intensity
of the cosmic radiation, it's going to

589
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:57.519
drive the astronauts nuts before they get
there. We also don't know how fast

590
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:05.559
the DNA begins to become damage to
the point that it's irreversible in altering the

591
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.119
DNA of the individual person in that
environment. So if these beans have figured

592
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:15.880
all that out and how they can
move at such speeds and what have you.

593
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.639
Then that tells me that the earth
is unique within itself that whoever has

594
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.360
or thinks they have possession of it. Wow. I mean you could use

595
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:34.000
technology and be fuddled the masses forever. I mean, if we have a

596
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:38.440
civilization collapse. Let's say we're the
seventh civilization and they say we're going to

597
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.239
be collapsing. That's is where we're
heading. The next one behind us,

598
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.400
we'll find the artifacts of our jets
are everything else. Would those governments then

599
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.800
say to the masses, well,
you know, because if we admit that

600
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.559
it existed and then we found it
and it was you know, before we

601
00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:00.760
were here, Well, we can't
do that because then we're powerless. Yep.

602
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.800
Well, the I can see where
you know this really starts fucking with

603
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:10.199
your mind. Yeah, that's exactly
right. That's been my goal and my

604
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:15.599
point of talking about, you know, the way that things last. Because

605
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:21.840
if say we're all wiped out right
now, just everyone just vanishes from the

606
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.320
earth, how long would it take
for the things that we've built, our

607
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:34.199
buildings or cars and all that to
excuse me to corrode and no longer be

608
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.079
here. Would it take you know, two hundred years, would take three

609
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:42.159
hundred years, four hundred years,
you know, and then well, let's

610
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:47.880
say a new species of humans in
the future five hundred years, and then

611
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:55.079
they start doing excavations and then they
find remnants of our old society. What

612
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.280
would they say about that? You
know, would they be like, would

613
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.679
they'd be like, oh, man, this was such a highly advanced society.

614
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.199
All the while they're like one hundred
times more advanced, you know what

615
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:09.760
I mean, Like, what would
they say about what we have now?

616
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.320
Would they be like, oh,
this was a very primitive society. They

617
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.960
were living in caves and you know
what I mean, or we become we

618
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.559
would become the Atlantis story. These
people, they had a society where it

619
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:29.880
seemed like things so interesting, and
you know, the History Channel did this

620
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.880
had a program on that that it
showed in less than three hundred years,

621
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:38.280
our cities are gone, they have
crumbled, Nature has taken it. The

622
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:45.440
plant life have literally consumed those things. And within four hundred years they showed

623
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:52.639
there's virtually little evidence of us being
here at all. Our trash will eventually,

624
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:58.440
you know, be degraded to the
point where the earth will either be

625
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:02.119
able to regenerate it or it will
become these artifacts that sometimes we find in

626
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:07.199
other parts of the world. It's
interesting then that brings into the question how

627
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.920
many times this has this been done
before? How many times have we been

628
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:15.400
to this exact point that we're at
right now within our past. If that's

629
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:22.360
all it takes is three hundred years
for everything to be gone, then what

630
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:27.320
what version of humanity are we on
right now? You know, because a

631
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.519
lot of people, a lot of
people think, well, you know,

632
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:34.159
it would take a really, really
long time. There's no way that everything

633
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.840
that we have built. I mean, the things that we've built are super

634
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.880
flimsy. I mean the structures that
we built. I was when we were

635
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:45.719
flying to California to film this second
documentary. I'm like looking out the plane

636
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:52.840
window and it's wild way like looking
down at the at the cities, and

637
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:59.519
I'm like, this is the most
ugliest type of architecture, and like everything

638
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:05.559
is like laid out in squares,
like on a grid. It's really strange.

639
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:14.880
It's really weird looking at how ugly
things are from the top and everything

640
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:22.239
is like perfectly it's perfect squares.
It's like everywhere it's like perfect little chunks

641
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:27.000
of squares stall over the place,
and I'm like, huh, One,

642
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:32.199
how did we get it this perfect? You know, like who's the brainchild

643
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:37.719
behind creating a lot of these cities
in the layouts of these cities? And

644
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:42.360
two why did we make it so
freaking ugly? Like, well, why

645
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:47.639
did we not have some creativity on
designing and creating these cities? You know,

646
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.800
everything is squares. It's just squares. You live in a square house,

647
00:59:52.880 --> 01:00:00.880
you stay in a square room.
Above it's square. Have a square

648
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:07.920
circle? Oh, do something different
though, Make a triangle, make an

649
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.760
octagon, make a freaking up too
single or whatever, you know what I

650
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:17.199
mean. They do have fun,
like create something that's enjoyable to see or

651
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.719
like enjoyable to look at. That's
what I feel like that they were definitely

652
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.039
doing in ancient times, you know, with the cathedrals, you know,

653
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.760
with the pyramids. Like I want
to know the first person that thought about,

654
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:32.119
all, let's make a giant freaking
pyramid. Let's just put a pyramid,

655
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:37.400
you know what, this this area
needs a giant freaking pyramid. Yeah,

656
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:44.440
let's take you know, a million
ton blocks and we'll we'll make this

657
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:49.280
giant freaking pyramid, and then what
do you do with it after it's melt?

658
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.880
Now, what the hell are we
doing it? I ain't tearing it

659
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.280
down? Hell noll right at that
hour, would buy How can people find

660
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:59.280
you? Let them know? I
put your link down by the way for

661
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.280
your YouTube, nle But you're out
there in a lot of different platforms.

662
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.000
Thank you very much, Wayne appreciated. Yeah, YouTube raids by Giants,

663
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:14.800
Indian, all alternative video platforms,
and any podcast platforms as well. There's

664
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:20.519
an audio only version of my show
that also gets uploaded to Spotify and Apple,

665
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:27.400
Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and anywhere else you can listen

666
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.039
to podcast on And thanks very much, Wayne, really appreciate your time to

667
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:35.000
seven wonderful conversation. And it's fantastic. I mean I'm sitting here, I

668
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:40.079
got freaking notes everywhere, because it's
really if we could find the reason for

669
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:45.519
all this, I think all the
rest of the pieces start falling in very

670
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:52.079
succinctly. Oh Wayne, help me, help me fund a documentary and we'll

671
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.159
get that bad boy. We can
do this. We'll do like a four

672
01:01:55.320 --> 01:02:04.480
like a four four part UFO documentary, because I believe that this is like

673
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.480
a this is a huge deal,
and I think if people were to see

674
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:14.400
the evidence and everything, there would
be a holy crap. And maybe I

675
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:19.320
think it's something that's really needed right
now at this time because UFOs and aliens

676
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.519
are at the at the height of
popularity. They're going to use it too.

677
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:28.280
They're going to use it, I
have no doubt about it. But

678
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:36.000
it's like perfect timing for like a
Peacock docuseries or a Netflix docuseries. Netflix

679
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.679
has been putting out some really good
documentaries here recently. They just did which

680
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:44.519
I'm going to be talking about this
evening with the man. You've got a

681
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.400
show tonight, Who do you have? With your guest She and the Ruiner.

682
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:52.280
We're going to be talking about this
new documentary that just came out on

683
01:02:52.360 --> 01:03:00.440
Netflix called The Programs, Coults,
cons and Kidnapping, Oh unbelievable. Wing.

684
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.599
If you get a chance, like
watch this documentary. It's a three

685
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:09.480
part documentary. It was like in
the top ten on Netflix and the Netflix

686
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:15.199
also came out with another documentary called
American Conspiracy. You want to go down

687
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:21.480
a rabbit hole with this whole thing
is called the American Conspiracy. The Octopus

688
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:27.079
Murders. Oh my god, that
is I couldn't believe that that Netflix.

689
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.360
Netflix did it. I was like, holy crap, they're really talking about

690
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:35.519
this on Netflix. But that is
a wild, wild story, and it's

691
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:39.199
called the Octopus Murders for a reason, and it goes around corruption and it's

692
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.920
right up your alley though, Win
because it has everything to do with computer

693
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:50.480
programming and computer engineering and the Department
of Justice not paying this gentleman and then

694
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:53.480
stealing the software and then putting a
back door into that software, and then

695
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:59.079
selling that software to other countries intelligence
communities so that they can spy on them.

696
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:09.039
It's like they created a giant global
surveillance see and they're using that for

697
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.679
someone. Yeah, thank you,
Nina, Hey Nina, thank you,

698
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:15.559
Darling and all the rest of everybody. Right, we got to do this

699
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.480
again because it's got my hunger.
I have a special guest tomorrow. I

700
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:26.000
have Jay and April from Spiritual Role. We're gonna be making an announcement tomorrow

701
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.360
and this is something that I'll talk
to you a little bit more off once

702
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:35.199
we get off here. But well, Octopus Murders. I'm gonna have to

703
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:40.400
check this thing out now. I
mean, watch it when you're gonna love

704
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:45.199
it. Wayne, I was like
mind blowing. This was happening in the

705
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:50.119
late eighties into the nineties, Like
what are they doing now exactly exactly some

706
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:56.360
forty years later. Yeah, hey, yay, all right, much love

707
01:04:56.440 --> 01:05:01.199
everybody, Thank you all. I'll
see you tomorrow again with uh Jay and

708
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:08.280
April coming on, so you're gonna
like this. So much love everyone.

709
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:12.840
We'll see you tomorrow speaking favor over
us all writer, thank you, brother

710
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.199
man. This is good stuff all
the way around. All right, much

711
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:17.800
love everyone, until we see you
again.

