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The weird thing happened. Weird,
weird, weird guys. I'm super excited

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for this episode. Welcome, let's
get that out of there. We do

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that in reverse order. This is
something that I've always wanted to do,

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like before we hit the podcast,
before I was ever even out there speaking

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publicly, I always wanted to do
some sort of segment or maybe write a

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book or something. In my mind, I always pictured it as like demystifying

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the occult. Well, unfortunately that's
already a book. So the next best

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thing, which I think is better, really is introducing a new segment.

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So so we internally were very hype
over the Spirit Science segment, which obviously

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we're going to record another one too
here after this one. But anyway,

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so like launching Spirit Science is allowing
us to springboard into this new segment,

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Wisdom Traditions. So what I want
to do with this is go through all

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of the ancient wisdom traditions that are
shrouded in mystery and sort of like dissect

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them, you know, and go
into the nitty gritty the history of them,

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the beliefs, the doctrines, the
esoteric symbolism and all that stuff.

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And yeah, I mean It's just
something that I've kind of been like building

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up my mind to do the whole
time look back on her. It's like

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an opportunity, Like a lot of
times will breeze past a lot of these

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wisdom traditions or maybe talk about them
for a little bit, you know,

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or whatever. And this is our
opportunity to give each one of these traditions,

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like time ye has to really dive
deep and give people a more full

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picture of what these wisdom traditions are
about, you know, the history of

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you. We're like compartmentalizing it all
into one episode so that if if you're

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like, man I really want to
know what the Rosa crusions are about exactly,

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or man, I really want to
see what's up with the es scenes,

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You're already here. But I also
really excited for this too, because

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Ryan's been doing a lot of research
because I called him up about my Halloween

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costume. Oh yeah, and he
says, I'm studying right now. Man,

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I'm deep in studying right now.
I got you a bad time,

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obviously, No, dude, I
was like, for that was yesterday,

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right, I was really really deep
into studying this stuff, and like I

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felt this pressure of like I've got
to get more information, but you know,

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there's only so little time. So
yeah, that's my bad. But

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I was I get in these modes
where I'm locked in and I'm like,

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don't talk to me, like I
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Yeah, I'll lose my train of
thought, like you know, yeah,

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lose because it's like you're you're grasping
for something. You're reading texts and

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you're you're you're looking for like specific
angles and information and you're trying to consume

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all of it. But you know, the main thing about this is it's

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also more evergreen, because like evergreen
meaning like it'll be relevant now but also

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in the future, like it's it's
one and done series. You know,

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per series about these different traditions that
forever there'll be great guides and resources and

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things like that. And you look
back through a catalog and we do have

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episodes where we talked about some of
these traditions, but even during them,

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we've always been like, well,
yeah, but maybe in a future episode

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will go deeper, right Always we've
always said that, yeah, this will

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be our opportunity to finally go deeper
with those and yeah, just like get

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it all Yeah, and the evergreen
thing is awesome because it's not topical.

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It's not you can listen to this
in a thousand years and it's still going

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to describe the shit that you know, these wisdom traditions have been about four

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hundreds and or thousands of years.
So before I get into the Essenes,

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which is the subject of this,
the first wisdom tradition segment I wanted to

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talk about. So I was doing
my research for this and I found a

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text. It's a really interesting text
by Julie Scott, who is the modern

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grand Master of the Rosicrusians. Wow. So the Rosicrucians do publish a lot

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of their texts online just for like
people to read, you know, because

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it's like, from my understanding,
the Rosicrusians particularly are more interested in education,

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like you know, giving the knowledge. It's like, sure, they

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do have texts that are secret and
you got to be a part of the

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order to get but they also provide
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entice people and allow them to like
get their feet wet and study the material,

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which is really cool. Yeah,
I love any kind of thing.

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You know. It's not gatekeepy,
they're not precious about it, you know,

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it's just like here it is right
exactly love. Yeah. So this

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text is titled The Mystery Schools and
the Rosicrusion Order A which the Amo r

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C is the modern American chapter of
the Rosicrucian Order AMRC, meaning the ancient

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mystic order rose crusis. So in
this text, written by the Grand Master

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of the Rosicrucians, she gives sort
of like a synopsis of the main mystery

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traditions or wisdom traditions of the past
that like all these modern esoteric societies are

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drawing their information. So eventually we're
going to hit all of these. So

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we've got dynastic Egypt, which is
around three thousand to thirty BC. We've

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got the Essenes, which is what
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century BCE to one hundred CE,
so they were around the first century.

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The Atlantis a prehistory prehistory in uh, what's those parentheses, you know,

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like prehistory, pre dynastic Egypt,
the Orphic mysteries, which we have covered

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before, the Delphic Mysteries, the
Pythagorean school, the Thraek Mysteries, which

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I believe is more Persian like the
modern. Well, I say modern,

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we're talking thousands of years ago.
The later like evolution of what Zoroasterronism used

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to be, the mysteries of Eleusis, which is more Grecian mysteries, the

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Isis mysteries, Hermeticism, Kabbalah,
gnosticism, alchemy, Neoplatonism, Martinism,

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Rosicrucianism as it was in the past
to modern day, and then the President

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the President AMRC, which eventually would
just do a whole you know, rosicrution

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episode. But this is just a
sample of like going forward with this segment,

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Like there's there's gonna be episodes dedicated
to dissecting each of these traditions and

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more like I've already found some really
other cool ones that I had never heard

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of that were like my imally yeah
secret like like like wisdom traditions you didn't

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even know about. Oh yeah,
there's plenty of them, damn. See

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that's why we needed this segment,
Yeah, so that we can like dedicate

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time. It also helps us too. I think it helps us more of

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like a laser focused vision on the
show and like what we want it to

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be because it's like we've always kind
of been doing this. Yeah, you

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know, it's just yeah, more
focused. Yeah, that's a good way

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to put it, and that gives
us energy to say, Okay, well

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now spirit science we have a different
angle. I love the segment things,

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so so let's get into it.
So I want to talk about for as

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far as the S scenes, there's
a lot of legend about the S scenes,

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but the majority of my focus was
on the historical fact. Awesome,

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like you know, reading about what's
actually known about them, what was actually

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written about them two thousand years ago. So the legend that stuff is equally

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as important, I would say,
because you know it's grounded in reality.

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You can see the real history.
Yeah. Well what's crazy about that is

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like when you know, everything that
I read today, like the notes that

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I've gathered, is all of the
real history, and it's honestly like more

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mind blowing than the legend because it's
confirmation exactly. Bro, Like when I

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read things about like the real history
and life of Jesus rather than like parables

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and stuff like that, that feels
even cooler to me to really like read

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the real history. Right. I
love that. So here's what Julie Scott,

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the Grand Master of the Rosicrucian order
and modern times had to say about

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the Essenes. The Escenes were mystics
who came together in spiritual communities throughout Egypt

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and Israel. One of these centers
was most probably Cumron, where the Dead

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Sea Scrolls were found. Jesus is
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of the Essene community. Many of
their practices paralleled those of the Pythagoreans.

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Among the different groups of Essenes were
the Therapeutae, which we're going to go

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in depth about today, the Therapeutae
near Alexandria, specializing in healing, as

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described by Philo of Alexandria, health
of the body, the soul, and

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the spirit always figures prominently in the
Rosicrucian tradition and its antecedents. So like,

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let's let's let's analyze that for just
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believe, just from my experience and
everybody around me who's ever come to this

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knowledge, the first level of finding
out about all of this mystery knowledge,

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these mystery religions. First level is
fear. First level is paranoia. Z

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Illuminati Freemasons around the world. Oh
my god, you know what I mean.

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It's it's like your first feeling that
you okay, when you understand that

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there are these groups. The first
level is always like they're bad, they

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worship the devil, they're anti Christian. Listen that, dude, you have

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them the the leader of the whole
order sitting here telling you who, by

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the way, the leader of a
secret society in modern times, it's gonna

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be well read and well studied.
They have to be to be, you

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know, having gone through all the
initiations and then by all of the peers

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at the highest level acknowledged to be
the grand master. They have to be

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somebody who knows their stuff, you
know. So, like what she's saying

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about these traditions is pretty important,
and she's telling you right here. It's

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believed by many that Jesus was one
of them. Yeah, isn't there any

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isn't there something in the Bible about
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bit, but is s scene and
like Nazarene. Yeah, that's not in

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the Bible, but that's the belief. Okay, that's where we're going.

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Yeah, that the Nazarenes were actually
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majority of well majorly majorly scrubbed from
history, like there's no single mention of

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them in the Bible. The only
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Philo of Alexandria, Pliny the Elder, and Flavius Josephus, which were these

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famous Jewish figures two thousand years ago. So that's that's the texts that we're

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going to focus on as the writings
of these three. Now there is speculation

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about the s scenes, and we're
gonna get into this here too before we

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get into the actual documents. But
the speculation is such that the Dead Sea

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Scrolls which were found in Cumron may
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no proof, there's heavy speculation.
I mean, it's pretty obvious that it's

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probably true, you know, like
all that we covered a lot of this

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in the Metatron episode. Remember the
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part of the Dead Sea Scrolls,
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probably written by scenes. You know, they were mystics. So when we

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get into the real history, what
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first century meaning like zero to one
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common era. In the first century, there were three main types of Jews

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religiously, I mean, and it
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They were like big Torah guys,
like, you know, really would

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preach the Torah and we're really into
it. I kind of buy the book

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Torah. Following Yeah, I mean
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a priestly class. You had the
sad Juices, which you know, if

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that rings a bell, it's the
group of it's it's the group of people

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in the Bible who like had Jesus
killed. I know. They're the ones

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who went and like took it to
the roaming governor Pontcha's pilot and was like,

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we need to kill him. It
was the Sadducees. They were reported

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in ancient times to be very barbarous, very vicious, nasty, just like

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holier than now. They were the
ones who like ran the temple, took

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money from all the commoners, wouldn't
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They were they were your typical like
priestly class that's like subjugating the rest of

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you know, contemporary Israel gatekeepers.
They were like the elite, yeah,

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priestly class. Yeah, like you
can't touch us. Sound sound like pretty

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bad guys, right, exactly.
People, the s scenes of the Yeska

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the s scenes were a deeply devout, extremely advanced mystical society. This is

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historical fact. Yeah, like,
this is not just legend. This is

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mentioned by these ancient writers who actually
went firsthand and like observed their community and

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was taking all these crazy notes about
this, this, this, this is

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what they believe, this is what
they do, and we're going to dive

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into that. But yeah, it's
crazy. So as scene Pharisee Sadducees.

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Now, there is a fourth version
of Judaism which is not as well known,

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and they're known as the Zelots.
And you know, around the time

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of first century Judea, especially up
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the Great Temple of I guess it
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was in Jerusalem, right, the
main temple, the Holy Temple sounds right

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like King Solomon all that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know

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exactly where the temple was, I'm
not you know, but it was torn

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down in around seventy a d.
By the Romans. It was a huge,

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terrible, tragic thing. The Zelots
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sort of like radically opposing that movement. They were like extremely just zealous about

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you know, the Temple and protecting
it. And the belief is that they

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were wiped out. But this is
in seventy CE and the Romans reclaimed Jerusalem

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and destroyed the Second Temple in Jerusalem. Yeah, yeah, okay, So

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getting into the legend. So I
had written this down. The Esscenes were

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a mystic Jewish sector in the Second
Temple period that flourished from the second century

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BEAT, which they changed before Christ
and after you know, ad to be

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before the Common Era and in the
Common Era to the first century CE.

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Contemporaries of their time reported that they
were an extremely advanced mystical society. Now

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here's where we get into the legend. It's believed by many. There's no

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genuine historical proof of this, but
you know, it's like we can think

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out of the box a little bit
and examine the evidence. It's believed that

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Enoch created the scenes. Oh wow, It's believed that Enoch is the fig

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you're known as Hermestriz Majistus. It's
believed that the Esscenes were the first wisdom

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tradition right, like the first ever. Yeah, you know, and it

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would make sense if Enoch was truly
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dispensed the knowledge of Atlantis. Enoch
would have lived somewhere around five to seven

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thousand years ago based on what they
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I mean, they were flourishing,
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two thousand years ago. And it's
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Pliny, Josephus, and Philo,
they're telling you straight up, this order

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is extremely ancient. The practices that
they observe our secret ancient texts that have

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existed for thousands of ages. They
say that in the texts, So it

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was ancient even two thousand years ago, like more ancient, right than two

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thousand? Yes, yeah, yeah, that's historical fact, that's not legend,

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right, So that's that's the crazy
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you if you look at the very
limited number of data available about Enoch in

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the Bible, he is regarded as
the seventh from Adam, which is funny

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because seven and and you know,
Hebrew culture was the number of perfection.

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But also even like if you remember
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think it's called the the septarian or
something like that. It's the concept that

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like everything is perfected in Seven's the
musical scale, the seven classical planets,

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the rays of light, the chakra
septarian it's yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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and then rested on the seventh day. There's all the symbolism behind seven.

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The seventh letter of the alphabet is
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which is like the Freemasons they have
the G. It's also seven, you

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know, so crazy. So Enoch
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of perfection. You look at the
actual translation from Hebrew or Aramaic to what

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the name Enoch actually means. It
means founder or initiator, which come on,

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now, yeah, if somebody founded
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matching up. His name means the
initiator. Yeah, it's like he's also

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in the Bible even or it might
be the Books of Enoch. He's regarded

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as being the scribe of God.
You know, he went away after three

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hundred and sixty five days and ascended. That's that's genesis. Yeah, and

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just to like further drive it,
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her Ummis and Hermie's yeah, describe
of God their scribes, like it's

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all matching up. And in terms
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like there's no concrete historical evidence and
that like you know, makes you feel

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some type of way. We're talking
about potentially seven thousand years ago. Yeah,

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what would you have expected to survive? You know? Right there any

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societies from that long ago that we
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just physical scientific you know, nothing
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or any of that stuff. We
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Yeah. Just because we don't have
literally like like physical evidence of something

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that was said been thousand years ago, it doesn't mean nothing. This stuff

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is lining up already exactly. There's
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be, That's what there's absolutely got
to be come on now and then you

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know, I know I'm going off
on a tangent. But when we were

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talking about Enoch the other day and
how on the Metatron episode, how he's

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represented. It even says he's represented
he has many names through many cultures.

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It's like, come on, man, this this shit is obviously lining up.

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So John the Baptist, which you
know, for for those you know,

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I have to be mindful of the
fact that although the Bible is common

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knowledge to so many people, there
are a lot of people who even grew

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up Christian or Catholic and they have
no knowledge of the Bible. So like,

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I felt like some of these things
I want to explain in very simple

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terms, Like John the Baptist was
the cousin of Jesus in the story He's

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the one who baptizes Jesus in the
water, right, the story where Jesus

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gets his first baptism. What is
that he initiates him, right, John

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the initiator, John the Baptist.
He baptizes people, takes him out into

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the water, and the story goes
he baptizes his cousin Jesus, and John

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says something I'm not good with remembering
exactly the quotes for Batam, but he

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says something like, you know,
I'm not great as the one who comes

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after me, and he's referencing,
you know, his cousin Jesus. But

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anyway, so we find that I
believe that's the first time that baptism was

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introduced. I don't think baptism was
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a more Christian practice. Wow.
You see what I'm saying. Now,

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here's the catch. Remember I just
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first century BCE, around one hundred
BCE up to one hundred a Yeah.

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these doctrines and practices of the Essenes, and very clearly we're going to read

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it very clearly. One of their
practices was every single morning, an scene

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initiate would baptize themselves or bathe in
cold water. Wow, it's ritual purity.

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So then okay, question, according
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John performed on Jesus, are you
saying that was like in the Christian canon,

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the first baptism if I remember correctly. Wow. I could be very

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wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
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oh they've been baptizing for thousands of
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there's practices that they had. It's
like there's there's there's things in the Christian

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and other religions and other societies that
come. Yeah, and you might even

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read the Bible and be thinking like, okay, but where did you why

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did you think to do that?
Or why Like when it talks about the

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what did they call the wise men
that are going and following the star?

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Why are they doing that? Why
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who read the Bible don't think about
that. Why did these wise men show

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up? Well, you know why
because the first mention of baptism is John

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and Jesus preaching first ever baptism according
to the Bible. Right, But you

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know the Bible talks about the wise
men following the North Star. You do

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a little bit of digging and you
find out thousands of years before that it

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was Zoroastrianism, yeah, you know, and and at face value, and

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it was the Zoroastrian magi who followed
in exactly. There's something going on.

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At face value, you're reading the
Bible and thinking, oh, this is

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the first time any of this stuff
is happening. But think for a second,

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where did they get that from?
Right, Well, we haven't even

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talked about how John the Baptist and
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Let's pump. But the idea here, it's there's there's a again,

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it's like the Essenes probably were at
Kumron. It's like, we can't know

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because we don't have a time machine
to go back thousands of years ago,

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but there's a lot of evidence that, you know, it's like it's probably

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true the Nazarenes were believed to be
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so it's really crazy. So John
the Baptist, no matter how you slice

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it or dice it, even when
you read about him in the Bible,

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with a little bit of cannon text
about him, it's like the way he

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dresses is distinct. He has like
animal fur clothes on with like these leather

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sandals something like that, and it's
like they make a very subtle reference about

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him being the second coming of Elijah. But you know, if you talk

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to mystics or initiates of any order, or like Benjamin Krim, he's a

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really big theosophy name who went out
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You know, there's this undercurrent of
these mystical traditions kind of like being

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connected the whole time throughout human history
and we're only getting these little crumbs.

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I'm going to go to church and
read the Bible my whole thing. It

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really clicked in my brain, not
only when we started seeing the phenomenon and

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stuff, but when I started reading
about Zoroasternism in the connection there a thousand

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years before Christ and like the magi
following the star which they prophesied that would

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happen, and their religion on their
turf, but it linked up with Jesus

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on his turf. It's like it
started like opening my brain to realize we

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pull our mind away from the Bible, we pull our mind away from Buddhism

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or Hinduism or every religion. We
pull our mind away from it, and

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we think God is above all of
that. You know, they're all just

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reporting. Yeah, they're trying to
figure it out, they're trying to put

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it in a way that people can
understand, and then unfortunately, some messed

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up people are adding their own stuff
to it, right to twist people's minds

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and stuff. But yeah, you're
reading the Bible and you're you're thinking,

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like who are these magi that show
up and and all this stuff. But

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in the Bible, you would never
see a reference. They would never say

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explicitly three magi from you know,
the Order of Zoroaster or whatever. They

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would never say that because, like
you just said, then that pulls you

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back from the Bible. Yeah,
so they would never say it. They

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just want to give you a time
three kings or the Yeah, I think

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there was a manuscript a long time
ago or some translation that does say magi,

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but they don't like tell you what
it is. They say the word

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and they move past. But it's
just crazy. So so we're going to

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go deeper now. So the Dead
Sea Scrolls, again, they were found

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in Kumaran. There's a belief that
they were written by the Esscenes. And

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also like it's it's indisputable, it's
indisputable that the Dead Sea Scrolls, whoever

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wrote them, would have considered them
highly secretive. They hit them, Yeah,

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around the time of exty nine or
seventy a d. When the temple

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was being invaded and destroyed by the
Romans. Yeah, so that's why in

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the first place, we have all
these hidden scrolls that are popping up because

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we have these orders that are like, we have to protect these scrolls.

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We can't let them get burned by
these people. Yeah, you know,

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so the crazy thing is years before
nineteen forty seven. I'm talking like in

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real history in the nineteen forties,
Edgar Casey. Do I believe every single

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thing that Edgar Casey knows? Well, I don't said, I don't know

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everything he said. So no,
I don't know. I haven't heard everything

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he's ever said. But I will
say studying the Edgar Casey material, I

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believe a lot of it, it
resonates with me. I just you know,

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come to find out he saw a
lady, Like a lot of his

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experience is parallel my dad's, and
it's just crazy, Like I think there's

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something to Edgar Casey. He seems
like he's in the line of sages for

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sure. You know, he's definitely
a mystic, a sage whatever. And

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he actually predicted the Dead Sea Scrolls
being found, like just mirror a few

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years before they were found. But
in his reading about this, he so

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he did these past life. He
wasn't like, he wasn't like doing like

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you here where people do like hypnosis
on people and get information out of them.

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He was going into a trance,
and he was for all intents and

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purposes like astro projecting or like remote
viewing the past. Do you see what

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I'm saying? Right? And did
he also access the UK he came up

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with that got or he was like
the big name that that came from.

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Actually a lot of the New Age
stuff comes from Edgar Casey. He was

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way ahead of his time. And
the big thing that he said in that

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reading was that Jesus was a part
of the scenes. Again we're separating the

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history from the legend, but we
also have this third dimension of this psychic

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experience that it's like, you know, you could you could take that as

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evidence. Yeah, yeah, if
you want. But Edgar Casey said in

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his readings that actually the Essenes were
so devoutly mystical that they had a prophecy

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that there would be someone born unto
them that would be a great mystic or

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a great sage or you know,
an enlightened being who would awaken other people,

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and it would it would be the
vessel of the immortal christ soul.

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You know, because the idea of
Christ has existed long before Jesus. It's

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in Osiris, you know, the
we just talked about the Irish myths,

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and there's this these myths all around
the world of some solar deity that incarnate

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in myth. The majority of these
wisdom traditions have that christ consciousness somewhere in

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them. Yeah, it's just some
solar Christianity by thousands of years. Yeah.

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So anyway, so he had this
reading that Jesus was a part of

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the Essenes, that they had these
scrolls and cumron and all this stuff.

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And part of his reading too was
that John the Baptist was a re incarnation

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of Elijah, and that John the
Baptist was a high level initiate of the

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Essenes and and all this stuff.
So it's it's just very it's very cool,

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you can say psychic lore. But
now getting into now we're gonna shift

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into like the facts. Let's shift, you know what I mean. We're

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gonna get away from legend, We're
gonna get away from mystics. We're gonna

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start reading some ancient texts. Let's
take a shift. Take a shift right

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on me. Okay, Yeah,
we're gonna take a big shift here.

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So there was this around the Maccabean
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that was maybe like one hundred or
one hundred and fifty years before Christ there

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was this priestly class known as the
the the Sons of Zadok, which Zadok

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was a figure in the Old Testament
who was like considered the high priest of

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the court of King Solomon, and
supposedly in the story it's like Zadok will

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be the one. I think.
It's like they come from the line of

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Elijah, and like they are the
priestly class, you know how you know

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how Israel is all like super like
there's twelve tribes, the tribe of Levi,

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the tribe of Judah, the tribe
of this There's twelve tribes and they

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take it very seriously in biblical texts. So it was believed that the Sons

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of Zadok were some special mystical lineage
of priests. Anyway, it's reported that

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the Essenes may have also descended from
this mystical tribe, giving just another layer

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of some sort of evidence that there
was something very significant about them in ancient

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history. So the Sons of Zadok
are a family of priests descended from Zadok

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described in the prophecies of Ezekiel,
Zadok himself was the first high priest in

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Solomon's Temple in the tenth century BCE. His descendants were high priests in that

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temple until its destruction in five hundred
and eighty seven BCE. Because you know,

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the temple has been destroyed twice wow. Ezekiel's prophecy came several decades after

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that destruction and describes the Zadokite families
loyalty to God while the rest of the

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nation rebelled against God. The sons
of Zadok are mentioned four times in the

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Hebrew Bible as a part of the
Third Temple prophecies in the final chapters of

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the Book of Ezekiel, and are
a theme of Jewish and Christian interpretation of

402
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:03.480
these chapters. Various documents of the
texts found at Kumron, which are the

403
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.839
Dead Sea scrolls, mentioned the teachers
of the community as cohan nim sons of

404
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.200
Zadok, which cohan Nime is Hebrew
for priests, leading some scholars to assume

405
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:19.200
that the Essenes from Cumron included priests
who refused to participate in the Hellenization of

406
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.200
the priesthood taking place in Jerusalem.
So the Greeks and the Romans, and

407
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:27.000
they were coming in and they were
like trying to morphite morphi exactly, the

408
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.519
directing statues of Jupiter and Zeus and
all that. And you know, anyway,

409
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:37.519
so very very cool. So Essenes
here is. Let me see which

410
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.079
one this is from. In regard
to the origin of the Essenes, neither

411
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.039
Josephus nor Philo can give a specific
date, but both make clear that the

412
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:51.759
Essenian roots are incredibly ancient. Josephus
declares again this is from his words from

413
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.559
his text, that the Essenes have
existed from time immemorial and countless generations,

414
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:02.279
while Filo of Alexandria agrees, calling
the Essenes the most ancient of all the

415
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:07.920
initiates, with a teaching perpetuated through
an immense space of ages. Josephus and

416
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.400
Philo, as well as several other
ancient writers, including Pliny the Elder,

417
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.359
are in consensus on two points regarding
the origin of the Esscenes. Pliny is

418
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.759
Pli and I why okay, there's
a band called Pliny in their dope.

419
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:26.000
Oh nice, sorry nice. They
are in consistus on two points. The

420
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:32.480
origin is lost in prehistory. With
searching certain ancient legends linking them with Enoch.

421
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.440
And there was a major manifestation of
the Essenes by Moses at Mount Sinai.

422
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.799
So it's believed that when Moses came
and he had his old ten commandment

423
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.359
stick and he went up and he
saw God on the mountain, that the

424
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.359
Escenes would have had a major revival. You know, it's like after that,

425
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.440
during that, like it's the Escenes
revered Moses as their greatest profit.

426
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.599
Remember Jesus went around you, right, you know what I mean? And

427
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.119
I guess Enoch was, Well,
there's another I have a speculation on why

428
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.839
they didn't reference Enoch because actually we
find in their doctrines that they were very

429
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.359
secretive about their texts. They never
divulged their text or the names of their

430
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:13.640
angels to outsiders, only two initiates. They say, that would kind of

431
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.359
lend itself to the reason they don't
mention Eno. Yeah, there's actually no

432
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.400
surviving texts of the Essenes, Like
the only the only thing we have about

433
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.200
them, which we're about to dive
into, are what ancient historians and philosophers

434
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:29.599
wrote about them. Yeah, there's
no texts about them. There's there's nothing

435
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.079
that's tragedy. They were wiped out
of history. They're not mentioned in the

436
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:36.720
Bible. The only the only evidence
we have are like four documents and texts

437
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.920
that were found in the desert in
the nineteen forties and fifties that are speculated

438
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.400
to be about them. Now I
might be really jumping ahead here, but

439
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:50.200
I mean, did Kabbala Does that
have anything to do with the Essene?

440
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.920
Did it does? I thought,
like absolutely it don't. Okay, Like

441
00:32:53.119 --> 00:33:00.160
Cabala is esoteric Judaism, right,
it's sounding pretty similar so far. And

442
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.119
know if like Kabbala like came from
this, I don't know for certain if

443
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.000
it came from it, but there's
there's some sort of the knowledge would be

444
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:14.359
mingled, right because I'm hearing like
mystic Judaism rightes scenes in Israel or in

445
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.920
Jerusalem or around that same area we're
talking about, very similar. There's a

446
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.720
lot of overlap here. Yeah,
so I was just picking my care There

447
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.119
is an overlap, Yeah for sure. Yeah. That is kind of fascinating.

448
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.279
It almost makes you wonder like maybe
maybe some of this stuff survived,

449
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.039
Maybe it just changed a little bit
so that it could survive. True.

450
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.839
Yeah, that's a great point.
Just yeah, So okay, so before

451
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:43.319
so Pliny the Elder wrote very little
about the scenes. But Josephus or Flavius

452
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:50.400
Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian
of all time. He wrote he lived

453
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:55.400
around the time of Jesus and wrote
a lot about contemporary stuff back then,

454
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.319
you know, like two thousand years
ago. He's a very prominent figure that

455
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.799
everybody studies when they study religion at
some sort of college level. And then

456
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.840
the other one is Philo of Alexandria. He is probably the most famous Jewish

457
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:12.679
philosopher. It's cool, actually,
I thought I was thinking of you when

458
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.559
I was reading his text, because
he writes a lot about like Plato Pythagoras,

459
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:21.000
because they sounds Greek. Philo of
Alexandria. I'm pretty sure he's Jewish,

460
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.079
but he speaks Greek. He lived
in Alexandria at Egypt. He could

461
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.320
be Greek. But I mean,
I Filo all the time. I would

462
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.639
feel so dumb if he was Greek
the whole time. Alexandria. Well,

463
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.880
he lived in Alexandria Egypt, so
then he could. I mean, who

464
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.639
knows, you know who, But
it sounds it sounds kind of Greek,

465
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:44.920
is it. It was a Hellenistic
Jewish philosopher. So he was so he

466
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.079
was double dipping. Yeah, he
was double dipping. Okay, he was

467
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:51.159
born in twenty five b C.
That's kind of tight. Damn sure he

468
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.440
would have been alive when Jesus was
around. I'm pretty sure he wrote about

469
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.360
him. So anyway, So this
is from Plinning the Elder on Natural History,

470
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.519
which was written somewhere around the first
through the third centuries, So somewhere

471
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.039
from zero to two hundred a d. Lying on the west side of the

472
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.760
Asphalt Lake and sufficiently distant to escape
its noxious fumes, are the Essenes.

473
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.480
This is a descent group that lives
apart from the world, and that is

474
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.679
amazing beyond all others throughout the whole
world. They have no women among them.

475
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.000
Now I want to note, I
want to note there's two versions of

476
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.840
the scenes. One of them didn't
have any women. One of them the

477
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.159
women were the priests. So it's
like there's a split there. I was.

478
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.239
It's important to mention that. But
this is a descent group that lives

479
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.000
apart from the world. They have
no women among them. They are strangers

480
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.000
to sexual desire, They have no
money, They only have palm trees as

481
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:44.960
companions day after day. However,
their numbers are fully recruited by numerous strangers

482
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.159
that come to them, driven there
by storms of fortune to adopt their way

483
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:52.480
of life and tired for the miseries
of life. And this way through thousands

484
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:58.280
of ages. Incredible to relate this
descent group sustains its existence forever without a

485
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.239
single birth placing taking place. There
the wariness of others' lives is a very

486
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.639
fruitful source of its population. So
it sounds like monks. They absolutely were.

487
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:13.400
That's what I'm saying. That they
were ascetic mystics who we're gonna get

488
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.840
we're gonna get into that. But
but but note here that Pliny two thousand

489
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:22.000
years ago just said, it's incredible
to relate that they have sustained their existence

490
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:29.719
forever through countless thousands of ages.
He said, thousands of ages without a

491
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.360
single birth taking place. So again
there was a split. There was scenes

492
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:39.079
that were celibate. They were purely
ascetic. It's not that they like hated

493
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:46.199
women and judged them, but that
they lived a life devoted to being constantly

494
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.320
you know, in the spirit like
they were completely like like monks. Exactly

495
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.039
exactly why they were monks like Tibetan
monks. You don't see women Tibetan or

496
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.719
like like Catholic monasteries. Yeah,
like nuns and priests, right right,

497
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.119
sure, yeah yeah, but yeah, so they didn't have children. They

498
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.400
recruited people who were suffering. They
would go out and anybody that came to

499
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.159
them, if they were sick,
if they were elderly, if they were

500
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.320
poored, they would tick them in. They would feed them and treat their

501
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:22.239
wounds and their sickness, and they
would allow anybody to approach and try to

502
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.840
join their order. But they had
an extremely strict initiation process which went on

503
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.920
for several years. They had to
like prove that they were worthy and go

504
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.400
for a long period of times without
even speaking. And sorry, it sounds

505
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:39.840
like the in Game of Thrones when
Sam goes to the library. Yes,

506
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.159
yes, yeah, the great library. Yeah. All they were taking in

507
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:51.159
all the sick people. Yeah,
I wonder if that's kind of and also

508
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:57.599
all the priests and stuff from Game
of Thrones, like very similar to Catholicism.

509
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.599
They're all supposed to be they're supposed
to be celibate, they're all supposed

510
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:05.000
to like stave off desire and all
it is. Yeah, that's a good

511
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.880
point. That's that's very similar.
Yeah, and again there was another group

512
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:13.199
of essenes who did take wives,
you know, because they believed, well,

513
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.559
this is this is a part of
creation, like we're you know,

514
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:21.159
the human race won't survive unless we
use our magical divine powers to create life

515
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.360
and propel the human race. So
it's funny how they were complete opposite celibate

516
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:28.039
but like, no, we're having
kids. Yeah yeah, I like that

517
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.760
a little better. But yeah,
and it's also important to note that,

518
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.400
like we're going to dive deeper here
into their beliefs, and I just want

519
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:40.440
to say, like, these are
beliefs and practices that are so extreme and

520
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.400
so strict that I don't think the
only way you could do this in modern

521
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.119
society is if you went off and
we're a monk and you you know,

522
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.039
like we're going to get into their
doctrine. Now I looked into that.

523
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.119
Wait, being a monk, Yeah, yeah, we look into all kinds

524
00:38:53.119 --> 00:39:00.000
of stuff. Well, it's a
two month retreat and you go to Thailand,

525
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.920
so you just like play for tend
for a couple of months. Yeah,

526
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.400
No, seriously, you just want
to walk up and down the red

527
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.679
light district. I know. I
was. Actually I just want one of

528
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:13.719
those cool robes. Yeah, but
I want to earn it. You know,

529
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.480
you shave your head, they shave
your eyebrows. Like you get there,

530
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.639
you check in all your money,
your phone, everything, they put

531
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.679
it away, and you like,
live by the rules. The only rule.

532
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:30.280
And I read the rules. You
can't eat standing up. See I

533
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.239
find that offensive. Yeah, I
love eating too well. You have to

534
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.320
enjoy what you're eating. You have
to, like I love, I'll eat

535
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:44.360
right over the trash can so that
whatever's left I can just fucking drop it

536
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.599
and I'm done. Yeah, Casey
gets so mad at me. Why are

537
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.719
you're standing eating? Also, it's
quicker, it's quicker. You can't you

538
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.719
can't sleep in a high place,
which I thought about it a lot.

539
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.480
I think it just means bead like
you have to sleep on the ground.

540
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.440
Oh yeah, no, that makes
sense. It's so that's the only two

541
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.400
rules. I remember. I didn't
do it, but obviously I didn't do

542
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.440
it. But because podcasts, I
have to take a pause, right,

543
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.320
yeah, yeah. There was a
while where he was genuinely talking about like

544
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:13.800
I think I want to do this. I think I want to do this.

545
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.480
In my head, I'm like,
you're never going to do it,

546
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.840
you know, but no, that
is really cool. But yeah, I

547
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:24.199
just wanted to say, like,
it's obvious that we don't share all of

548
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.519
these opinions, you know, because
because some of them it's like it's it's

549
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:34.599
pretty extreme, but it's fascinating.
It's fascinating to see these traditions that have

550
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:39.039
existed in the ancient past that up
until now we knew zero about. We

551
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:43.400
meaning like anybody who's never heard of
this, yeah, because you're not commonly

552
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.800
taught this. And also it's like, dude, I'm thirty years old and

553
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.320
I'm just now finding out a lot
about this stuff. Because I was like,

554
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.960
you know what, I want to
do an episode on it and break

555
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.639
it down and like consume everything I
can about it. Why isn't this the

556
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.679
kind of stuff, This is the
kind of stuff that should be in school.

557
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:02.159
It's like, it's funny because in
school it's like you're not allowed to

558
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.639
talk religion, you're not allowed to
talk about the Bible or or you know,

559
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:08.239
certain things. But like, in
reality, they should talk about all

560
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.039
of them. They should. I
feel like we should be educated on all

561
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:16.679
of them. Absolutely, it's rich
culture, if nothing else, If nothing

562
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.519
else, exactly, don't teach me
how to do the fucking Pythagorean theorem.

563
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.039
Teach me about pythagorists, right,
Like, teach me what he was thinking

564
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:30.880
about spirituality in the both or why
do I need the Pythagorean theorem for Bruh,

565
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:35.280
I don't ever be with a's and
b's and all that. That's what

566
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.199
I'm saying, Like, I don't
need that. Yeah, teach me about

567
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.599
that. It's kind of lame,
right, we only learn about Pythagorea and

568
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.760
theorem. But there's so much more
to the dude, that's beyond Oh yeah,

569
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.519
a little geometry equation and it's infinitely
cooler. Yeah, Like, dude,

570
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.400
only teach me that if I'm trying
to be like a mathematician or something

571
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.480
that involves heavy math. Otherwise,
bruh, get that out of here.

572
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.639
So now we're going to get into
the doctrine. Yeah. This is an

573
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:06.840
exer from Philo of Alexandria on the
Therapeutae, which was the Egyptian sect of

574
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:15.239
the Essenes that lived near Alexandria,
Egypt. And in every house there is

575
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.679
a sacred shrine which is called the
holy place in the monastery in which they

576
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.239
retire by themselves and perform all the
mysteries of a holy life, bringing in

577
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.079
nothing neither meat nor drink, nor
anything else which is indispensable towards supplying the

578
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.079
necessities of the body, but studying
in that place the laws and the sacred

579
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.599
oracles of God, enunciated by the
Holy prophets, and hymns and psalms,

580
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.760
and all kinds of other things,
by reason of which knowledge and piety are

581
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:44.440
increased and brought to perfection. Therefore, they always retain an imperishable recollection of

582
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.719
God, so that not even in
their dreams is any other object ever presented

583
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.000
to their eyes except the beauty of
the divine virtues and of the divine powers.

584
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.280
Therefore, many persons speak in their
sleep, divulging and publishing the celebrated

585
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:02.320
doctrines of the sacred philosophy. And
they are accustomed to pray twice every day,

586
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.840
at morning and evening when the sun
is rising, retreating God. In

587
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.280
treating God that the happiness of the
coming day may be real happiness, so

588
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.719
that their minds may be filled with
heavenly light. And when the sun is

589
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.000
setting, they pray that their soul
being entirely lightened and relieved of the burden

590
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.159
of the outward senses and of the
appropriate object of these outward senses, may

591
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.079
be able to trace out truth existing
in its own consistory and council chamber.

592
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.360
And the interval between morning and evening
is by them devoted wholly to meditation.

593
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:38.119
Buh, let's go meditation. What
that sound like? That sound like China,

594
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:45.679
Yeah, Tibet, India, Persia, the Middle East. They're not

595
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.639
talking about meditation. Yeah in the
Bible, no way, that's mystical.

596
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.159
That's right. I mean, throughout
our lives we've heard people that say that

597
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:57.159
stuff's evil. That was written two
thousand years ago. Right, you see

598
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:01.199
what I'm saying. Like they We're
gonna keep going. Okay, that that

599
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:05.599
right there? Blew my mind.
You know, let me find where I

600
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.960
was. Meditation and the interval between
morning and evening is by them devoted wholly

601
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.639
to meditation on in practice of virtue, for they take up the sacred scriptures

602
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:22.039
and philosophize concerning them. Investigating Listen
to this. This is very important,

603
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:30.599
investigating the allegories of their national philosophy, since they look upon their literal expressions

604
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:37.920
as symbols of some secret meaning of
nature intended to be conveyed in those figurative

605
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:47.079
expressions. They practiced esoteric arts.
They had symbolism concealing the true mystery of

606
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:53.280
the divine and consciousness. Again,
this was written two thousand years ago.

607
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.840
That's the kind of stuff that you're
reading in Mason Lodges and Rosicrucian and stuff

608
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.480
now today. Written by Filo of
Alexandra about them two thousand years ago.

609
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.480
He's talking about like perceiving your reality
symbolically, yeah, and figuratively an allegory

610
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:13.079
thousands of years. That's what I'm
saying. There's something going on with this

611
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:17.280
mystical stuff in history that like is
hidden from us, Like why doesn't everybody

612
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:21.559
know about this stuff? Yeah,
I know, I'll go to church or

613
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.119
whatever practice we have, but it's
like this is like huh, yeah,

614
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:30.039
because you know what's wild, Like
exoteric religion, what's it all focused about.

615
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.519
It's all focused about after this life. It's all focused about what comes

616
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:37.400
next. But you can do now
to earn what comes next or whatever.

617
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:45.039
These mystery traditions, these wisdom traditions
are telling you how to try and seek

618
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:54.119
and understand or perceive your reality now, for how truly mystical it is to

619
00:45:54.400 --> 00:46:00.400
change your life in this realm.
Right, It's like, I can't believe

620
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:05.559
that was reading. I guess even
there's a lot more. I'm gonna start

621
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.920
cooking. I'm gonna start kicking it
up. I'm gonna start kicking in the

622
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.000
gear and start cooking it up.
Okay, so here's here's the very next

623
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.400
line. They also have writings of
ancient men, who, having been the

624
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.960
founders of one sector or another,
have left behind the many memorials of allegorical

625
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.480
system of writing an explanation, whom
they take as a kind of model,

626
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:27.800
and imitate the general fashion of their
sex, so that they do not occupy

627
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.360
themselves solely in contemplation. But they
likewise compose psalms and hymns to God in

628
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:36.280
every kind of meter and melody imaginable, which they have necessity arrange a more

629
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.360
dignified rhythm. Therefore, during six
days, meaning like of the week,

630
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.800
you know, because they observed the
Sabbath. Therefore, during six days,

631
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:49.880
each of these individuals retiring into solitude
by himself. Remember, they didn't marry

632
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.760
and have children, right, right, They were ascetic marrying into solitude by

633
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:58.440
themselves, or excuse me, retiring
into solitude philosophizes by himself in one of

634
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.760
the places called monastery, never going
outside the threshold of the outer court,

635
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.480
and never indeed even looking out.
But on the seventh day they all come

636
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.559
together is that the meat in a
sacred assembly, and they sit down in

637
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.920
order according to their ages, with
all becoming gravity, keeping their hands inside

638
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.679
their garments, having their right hand
between their chest and their dress, and

639
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:20.960
the left hand down on the side, close to their flank. And then

640
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:22.360
the eldest of them, who has
the most profound learning in their doctrines,

641
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.679
comes forward and speaks with a steadfast
look and with a steadfast voice, with

642
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.840
great powers of reasoning and great prudence, and making an exhibition of his oratorical

643
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.960
powers, like the rhetorations of old
or the soface of the present day,

644
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:39.159
but investigating with great pains and explaining
with minute accuracy the precise meaning of the

645
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.719
laws, which sits not indeed at
the tips of their ears, but permeates

646
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.960
through their hearing into the soul,
and remains there lastingly. And all the

647
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.519
rest listen in silence to the praises
which he bestows upon the law showing there

648
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.440
is scent only by nods of the
head or the eager look of the eyes.

649
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.440
And this common holy place which they
all come together on the seventh day,

650
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.880
is a twofold circuit, being separated
partly into the apartment of the men

651
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.119
and partly into a chamber for the
women. Remember this see the Egyptian chapter

652
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:08.039
prote a chapter for women. Also
in accordance with the usual fashion, here

653
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.320
form a part of the audience,
having the same feelings of admiration as the

654
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.599
men, and having adopted the same
sect with equal deliberation and decision. And

655
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.480
the wall which is between the houses
rises from the ground three or four cubans

656
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:25.320
upward. And yeah, that's just
describing the rest is not important. So

657
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.599
they were recognized. Moving on to
the next text, they were recognized by

658
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.440
contemporaries of the time as being the
most advanced and ancient initiatory society. This

659
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:39.320
is written by Philo of Alexandria and
his text on the contemplative life. This

660
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.079
is then, what I have to
say of those who are called the therapeutae,

661
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.079
who have devoted themselves to the contemplation
of nature, and who have lived

662
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.119
in it and in the soul alone, being citizens of heaven and of the

663
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.840
world, very acceptable to the Father
and creator of the universe because of their

664
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:59.760
virtue, which has procured them his
love as their most appropriate reward, for

665
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.360
which far surpasses all the gifts of
fortune, and conducts them to conduct them

666
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.440
to the very summit and perfection of
happiness. So again, like analyzing that,

667
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:14.000
we're talking about very famous historians and
philosophers that were still talking about thousands

668
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.119
of years later went and observed these
societies, and they reported, they're the

669
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.119
happiest people I've ever met. They
had the most advanced spiritual ship going on

670
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.400
out of any culture I've ever seen. They have thousands, they estimate plinty.

671
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.840
The older estimates they probably had four
thousand in their order that were all

672
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:34.119
living communally, sharing all their possessions. They had no money, They aggressively

673
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.480
rejected materialism, and they were just
all happy, singing songs together in praise,

674
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:45.400
fasting, and meditating, and like
they were in extremely advanced spiritual society

675
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:52.400
who had rituals or rather symbols and
allegories, and they had these secret ways

676
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:58.280
that it says that they learned from
ancient sages that they explained the mysteries of

677
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:05.159
God through symbols. Bruh. The
Bible doesn't say any of that, No,

678
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.400
none of it. And it's closely
related to the ship that they talk

679
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.960
about in the Bible, Like why
are we skipping out on all that?

680
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:19.119
That's crazy. They were literally like
like monks, we're talking about a commune.

681
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:25.480
We're talking about fasting, meditation,
anti materialism, like they even took

682
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:31.119
bats in cold water, like yeah, plunge, yeah every day. You

683
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:37.719
know, like, wow, how
did the Bible just fully gloss over all

684
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:38.639
that? Well, they were wiped
out from it. Yeah, I know.

685
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:43.239
It makes you wonder why is there
nothing except for this about these people?

686
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.760
It does make you wonder. Really, it's and you have all these

687
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:51.599
other psychic people if you believe that
or not, doesn't matter. You have

688
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.719
all these other psychic people in modern
times getting all these hits independently of each

689
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.719
other. Jesus and John, the
Baptists were essuenings, the Mazarines were essuens

690
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.960
blah blah blahss that you have all
this stuff, you know, and it's

691
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.400
like then you read the real historical
stuff about them, and it's like damn,

692
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.159
and we hadn't even talked about the
crystals. Yet crystal. Now we're

693
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:12.400
actually getting into the doctrine. You're
ready. They worshiped the one true God

694
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.199
is Light. They worshiped the Light. They were like the sons of the

695
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:22.599
Light. They had ritual initiations.
Plus obviously secrecy surrounding the sacred angels rights

696
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:28.840
and texts that was written in Josephus
War of the Jews too. They very

697
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.760
carefully guarded the name of their holy
angels and all of them. They did

698
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.559
not divulge the mysteries to outsiders.
They just ate with them, gave them

699
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.960
clothes and food and medicine if they
were sick and poor. And they would

700
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.960
laugh with strangers and treat them like
family. But they wouldn't reveal the mysteries.

701
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.480
They had to earn it. But
now this is from the text War

702
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.039
of the Jews too. But now, if anyone has a mind to come

703
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.840
over to their sect, he has
not immediately admitted, but he has prescribed

704
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:59.639
the same method of living which they
use for a year while he continues excluded,

705
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.760
and they give him a small hatchet
and the forementioned girdle in the white

706
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.480
garment. They only wore white garments
because it was pure, and when he

707
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.599
hath given evidence during that time he
can observe their continents, he approaches nearer

708
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.559
to their way of living, and
is made a partaker of the waters of

709
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:20.599
purification. Yet he is not even
now admitted to live with them, for

710
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.039
after this demonstration of his fortitude,
his temper has tried two more years.

711
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.599
And if he appears to be worthy, then they admit him into their society.

712
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.119
And before he is allowed to touch
their common food, he is obliged

713
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.719
to take tremendous oaths. In the
first place, he will exercise piety towards

714
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.679
God, and that he will observe
justice towards men, And that he will

715
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.760
do no harm to anyone either of
his own corridor by the command of others.

716
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:43.920
That he will always hate the wicked
and be the assistant to the righteous.

717
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.480
He will ever show fidelity like loyalty
to all men, and especially to

718
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:52.360
those in authority, because no one
obtains the government without God's assistance. Yeah,

719
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.639
I'm not sure about that. One
man, if he be an authority,

720
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:59.800
he will at no time whatever abuse
his authority, nor endeavor to out

721
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.119
shine his subjects, either in his
garments or any other finery. And that

722
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.360
he will perpetually be a lover of
truth and propose to himself to reprove those

723
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.159
that tell lies. That he will
keep his hands clear from theft his soul

724
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:14.880
from unlawful gains. He will never
conceal anything from those of his own sect,

725
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.440
nor discovery of their doctrines to others. Like you, don't reveal the

726
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:22.519
mystery. No, not through though
anyone should compel him to do so,

727
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.159
at the hazard of his life.
Moreover, he swears to communicate their doctrines

728
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.079
to no one otherwise than as he
received them himself. That he will abstain

729
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.199
from roby robbery, and will equally
preserve the books belonging to their sect.

730
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.880
I want to know what these books
are. I want these books. He

731
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.679
will preserve the books belonging to their
sect and the names of the angels or

732
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.920
messengers. These are the oaths by
which they secure their proselytes to themselves.

733
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:51.199
They teach an ancient, esoteric and
symbolic ali cory. I think I already

734
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:54.199
read this one though, and these
explanations of the sacred scriptures. Okay,

735
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:59.679
here we go, here we go
this right here again, It's another part

736
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.239
written two thousand years ago. Okay, he says, and these explanations of

737
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:14.559
the sacred scriptures are delivered by mystic
expressions and allegories. For the whole of

738
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:19.239
the law appears to these men to
resemble a living animal, and its express

739
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:24.639
commandments seem to be the body and
the invisible meaning concealed under and lying beneath

740
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:30.679
the plane words resembles the soul,
in which the rational soul begins most excellently

741
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.599
to contemplate what belongs to itself,
as in a mirror, beholding in these

742
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.920
very words, the exceeding beauty of
the sentiments, and unfolding of the explaining

743
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:45.800
of the symbols, and bringing the
secret meaning naked to the light to all

744
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.239
who are able, by the light
of a slight intimation, to perceive what

745
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:57.360
is unseen by what is visible.
So they had layers of secrecy regarding their

746
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:02.119
doctrine. Wow, man, and
you don't hear people speak this eloquently on

747
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:08.360
spirituality. This was two thousand years
ago. This is I'm just impressed with

748
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:14.320
the eloquence because the way that this
is being phrased, it's hitting I don't

749
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.800
even have to think about it.
That's right there. It's going into my

750
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:22.480
brain and immediately being absorbed. That's
so eloquent. Yeah, I haven't.

751
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.119
Yeah, I'm kind of pissed now
because I want to read these books.

752
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:30.280
Yeah what are these books? Yoah, I want their books. Wow.

753
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:35.119
That is really blowing my mind.
When they're continuing the next line. When

754
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.840
therefore, the president appears to have
spoken at sufficient length and to have carried

755
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.159
out his intentions adequately, so that
his explanation has gone on felicitously and fluently

756
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.400
through his own acuteness, and the
hearing of the others has been profitable.

757
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:50.880
Applause arises from all of them,
as men rejoicing together at what they have

758
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.920
seen and heard, and someone rising
up scenes a hymn which has been made

759
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.760
in honor of God, either such
as he has composed himself or some ancient

760
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.400
one of some old poet. But
they have left behind the many points and

761
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:06.840
songs and trimeter iambix whatever that is, and then psalms of thanksgiving iambic is

762
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.800
like I believe it's like a structure
of poetry or hymn or pentameter. Right

763
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.719
exactly, yeah, nice, but
this says trimeter trimeter it's another right yeah

764
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:20.760
yeah, and uh yeah, so
they all sing okay, church. This

765
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.840
is this is the best part.
Yeah, it does in it. I

766
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:29.760
think that's where church came from from
them. Where did they get that ritual?

767
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:31.400
Let's all sing after the sermon,
Yeah, and get together once a

768
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.599
week. Trimeter is one type of
meter used in poetry in which each line

769
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:42.280
has three metrical feet, right right, nice, that means though this is

770
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:45.519
my favorite, and quite frankly,
I think this is the most mind blowing

771
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:51.079
of all of it. So this
was in the Wars of the Jews too,

772
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.880
by Flavius Josephus. You ready,
Alex, you ready, get your

773
00:56:53.920 --> 00:57:01.000
angeliers open, you ready, I'm
ready. They also take great pains and

774
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:07.880
studying the writings of the ancients and
choose out of them what is most for

775
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:14.039
the advantage of their soul and body, and they inquire after such roots and

776
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:22.760
medicinal stones as may cure their distempers. Dude, dude, See they were

777
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:29.719
using herbs and crystals to heal diseases
and spiritual maladies. And not only that,

778
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:34.280
Yes, that that alone is incredible. And you know, but the

779
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.440
thing that is so beautiful about that
passage you sent me that you sent me

780
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:39.719
there the other day, and I
was just a little teased. It is

781
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:47.360
such a warm sentiment, and it's
so refreshing to know that true mystics,

782
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:53.239
thousands of years ago, with the
only with only the urge to understand the

783
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:59.800
universe that they live in and nothing
more, were wise enough to know that

784
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:07.480
you can pull value from all wisdom, traditions, from all religions all and

785
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.840
you can leave the things that don't
serve you. That's what they do now,

786
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:14.079
you know mystics. Yes, yes, that's what it's like this,

787
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.480
that's what I'm saying. They did
it. Then it's crazy thousands of years

788
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:23.079
ago. Yeah, it's insane,
but that is just it's so beautiful.

789
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.519
I've said that on this show before, right, take the things that serve

790
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:34.440
you and leave the things that don't. That is true spirituality. Hot take.

791
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:39.440
You're hearing it here on Bledsoe said, So that is spirituality. Spirituality

792
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:43.719
isn't following one little thing and staying
in that box. Well, I mean,

793
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:45.559
I can't. That's a blanket statement. I don't want to because some

794
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.599
things are objective can going going,
Some things are objectively true, like take

795
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:54.239
the stuff. But here's the point
of that. They're they're using what what

796
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:59.480
actually works exactly what I'm saying,
they're not tied to a specific like,

797
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.559
here's our spiritual proof. This is
yeah, exactly, this is the stuff

798
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.920
that has worked since the time of
the ancients. Let's write it down and

799
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.960
incorporate it. Yeah, you keep
moving exactly spiritual flexibility, dude. Well,

800
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:14.280
dude, it's exactly what esoteric occult
science is. It's exactly what the

801
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.880
rose. You start reading the text
of the Rosicrucians, you start reading the

802
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:22.440
modern reformation of the Gnostic movement that
has their own you know, uh,

803
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.559
I don't know what you call it, like programs where you can read the

804
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:30.280
beliefs of Gnostics. They say it
plainly. They're like, we are pulling

805
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.960
from the Persians, the Greeks,
the Egyptians, the Romans, the Essenes.

806
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.400
I read you the text. She's
like, this is what we're pulling

807
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:42.679
from what we in modern times.
We're learning from these traditions because meditation works,

808
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.639
chalkras are real, crystals are real. Uh okay, So the Persians

809
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:50.159
had this star system. We like
that. They're they're taking these ancient traditions

810
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:55.440
that have real evidence of working,
and they're synthesizing it into this this this

811
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.920
mystical practice you know what I mean. It's it's the op of religion.

812
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:05.519
It is you know, it's it's
just existing in truth. Yeah, you

813
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.639
know what I mean. Yeah,
it's it's funny because you throw one around

814
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:14.280
the word like spirituality, and there's
so many different perceptions to that. But

815
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:20.440
to me that that is true because
you are doing anything necessary to understand the

816
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:25.000
spirit. Right, You're you're grasping
it. Everything that works, everything that

817
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:30.199
makes sense, everything that clicks,
leave everything that doesn't work. You're focusing

818
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:37.119
solely on spirit that spirituality. Right. That's beautiful, dude. I'm probably

819
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.119
I'm not going to read all of
the texts, because I actually have a

820
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:44.000
lot more than I've already read,
but I'm gonna get through the good ones.

821
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.079
Okay, So I'm going to summarize
their doctrine. But know that the

822
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:51.440
next few things that I'm about to
say, all of these come from either

823
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.800
On the Contemplative Life by Filo of
Alexandria or they come from the War of

824
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:59.840
the Jews too by Josephus, which
again, these were both texts that were

825
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:01.920
in thousands of years ago, and
there's even more texts that write about them

826
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.199
by Josephus, Philo and Planning the
Elder. I'm not even sure if I'm

827
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.519
reading much more from Planning the Elder. They fasted during the day. They

828
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:15.199
only ate at night because they believed
that to eat during the light of the

829
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:19.480
day when the sun is present,
which is supposed to be symbolic of like,

830
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.360
you know, God, the great
Spirit. They didn't want to feed

831
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.599
their body because they were so extreme
about only existing in the spirit. They

832
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:30.079
were trying to be as close to
spirit as possible, so they would faster

833
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:35.599
in the day. They wouldn't speak
before sunrise. They didn't want to waste

834
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:40.519
their breath and their mental capacities talking
about random mundane things before the sun was

835
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:45.119
up. They would only eat at
night. A lot of them were so

836
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.639
extreme that they would fast for three
days or they really extreme ones would fast

837
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.440
for six days and only ever eat
on the Sabbath, so they one day

838
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.440
a week. Some of them,
Yeah, not all of that, This

839
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.239
is what they said. They were, like, the more extreme of them

840
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.519
would only eat on the Sabbath.
Ever. Wow, and they I'm telling

841
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:08.039
you, dude, like they completely
rejected any notion or idea of like physical

842
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:14.239
pleasure. Like most of them would
only be eaten like the most minutely salted

843
01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.920
bread because they're like, I don't
want just to stain, just keep your

844
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.000
body alive. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like

845
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.960
that. They were so seriously focused
on at every present moment, trying to

846
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:30.639
to be connected with God. You
know what I mean. They're simply eating

847
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:35.679
to live right right, Yeah,
yeah, literally the whole order. Again,

848
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:38.599
most of them probably would be eating
at night. But the more extreme

849
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.320
you ever think, like, what
would happen if you if you went back

850
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:45.000
in time and plucked one of these
people out and took them to like a

851
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:51.840
McDonald's, like an Imax movie theater
and just or maybe that new Las Vegas

852
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:57.400
sphere. Oh yeah, oh god
dude, they'd be like, they'd be

853
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.800
freaking out, just die on the
Yeah, they would freak out. They

854
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:06.760
communally shared all of their possessions.
They didn't receive like an income, any

855
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:08.519
sort of labor. They did that
had any sort of money or any sort

856
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.840
of payment or reward, they immediately
would bring it to the order. And

857
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:17.360
the Order had like a public inventory
of all food, all possessions, all

858
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:22.159
money, and they shared it one
hundred percent freely between everybody, and they

859
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:27.000
thrived. They actually were so ascetic, meaning they're like separated from society.

860
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.199
They had communal agrarian style villages.
Then it was reported by these riders that

861
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:34.719
their houses were so basic that it
looked like they were thrown up in a

862
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.199
rush. They had the coursus cheapest
rugs. They only wore the plainest white

863
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.440
garments, white clothes, white shoes, and it was a part of their

864
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.840
doctrine that they would never even get
a new robe until the one they were

865
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.760
wearing was so dilapidated and worn down
that it was breaking apart. Because they

866
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.079
were so much like no nice clothes, no nice shoes. That stuff doesn't

867
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:57.400
matter, None of it matters.
We reject it. Where they were like

868
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:03.079
one hundred percent away from society,
outside of the major cities, in their

869
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:11.480
own little contained monastic villages doing it. It's like a commune, honestly,

870
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:16.079
a commune where their express purpose is
to try to live solely as a soul,

871
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:21.679
right, not a person exactly.
That's beautiful. And it was reported

872
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:26.920
too that they loved doing labor and
giving all of their possessions and income to

873
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.840
the commune. Why wouldn't you because
it's gonna joy and they were happy,

874
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:35.119
it's gonna literally benefit you and everyone
else around you to do that, Why

875
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.880
wouldn't they? I mean, that's
just beautiful. That's interesting to me though,

876
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:44.440
because, like I feel like a
lot of people, the allure of

877
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:47.400
that lifestyle for a lot of people
is to not have to work. But

878
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:53.880
then you put yourself in that place
and you find that like humans naturally like

879
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:58.239
to work. Well, absolutely,
the I think, in my opinion,

880
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.840
this is a little bit of a
tangent. I think the people don't The

881
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.559
reason people don't like to work today
is because they don't like their job.

882
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:08.920
Well, yeah, because they really
don't get much of anything for doing it.

883
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:12.440
There's also no purpose to you know, it's like back then, you

884
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.280
know, we're talking ancient times.
It's like I'm the blacksmith. Yeah,

885
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.360
no, I'm the ship right right
now. It's like I work for some

886
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:23.039
company, yeah, nine to five, and they get me a little paycheck.

887
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.920
Yeah, that's it. But this
work that these people were doing is

888
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:33.360
making the whole commune survive, right, It's benefiting every single person in that

889
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:39.000
commune. If that was the sort
of society, or if that's how I

890
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:44.320
was living, I would love to
work all the time because it's just benefiting

891
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:49.840
everyone around you, and everyone is
working together for each other. Right,

892
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:57.159
that's beautiful. Sounds pretty awesome,
it does. They observed extreme ritual purity

893
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.639
and chastity. So again, like
the section was not in Alexandria, Egypt

894
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:04.039
known as the Therapeutae, that's the
Greek word. But they were Essenes.

895
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.960
They were like another branch of Essenes, the ones that lived in Israel.

896
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:13.480
They were celibrated. Like their whole
lives. It was only men and they

897
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.000
yeah, they would they would do
the cold water bathing every morning, and

898
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:24.079
they had extreme honor and adoration for
the elder initiates. And actually the elder

899
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:28.760
initiates were reported to be very lighthearted, very carefree, almost like children.

900
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.800
They're so happy and so and they
would laugh and they would they would just

901
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:38.000
smile, and you know, the
old guys are just as funny as the

902
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.480
young guys. And they were all
like one, you know, they all

903
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:44.480
respected each other as one. But
in their ceremonies on the Sabbath day,

904
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.360
the elders would speak, you know, because they had the most wisdom.

905
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:51.039
So very cool. There. Let
me skip through. We don't need to

906
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:56.639
read the text on that though,
because it's very long. They aggressively shunned

907
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:01.119
material desires, and keep only playing
possis out of necessity for survival. And

908
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:05.000
it says here from Filo in on
the contemplative life. And the order in

909
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:08.920
which they sit down to meet is
a divided one, the men sitting on

910
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.199
the right hand, and the women
the women apart from them on the left.

911
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:16.360
And in case anyone by chance suspects
that cushions, if not very costly,

912
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:23.280
ones still at all events, of
a tolerably soft substance. Again we're

913
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:29.639
talking about their furniture's cheek. Of
a tolerably soft substance are prepared for men

914
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:33.000
who are well born and bred.
The healthy guys get the tolerably soft cushions,

915
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:39.039
you know. And contemplators of philosophy, he must know that they have

916
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:44.119
nothing but rugs of the coursus materials, cheap mats of the most ordinary kind

917
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:47.360
of papyrus of the land, piled
up on the ground and projecting a little

918
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:50.639
near the elbow, so that the
feasters may lean upon them. For they

919
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:56.960
relax in a slight degree the less
sedemonian rigor of life. And at all

920
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.199
times, in all places they practice
a liberal, gentlemanlike kind of hating the

921
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:06.559
allurements of pleasure with all their might. Wow, the cheapest rugs, the

922
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:13.199
healthy young man, they get the
tolerable cushion. I love the fact that

923
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:17.560
it says tolerable. It's tolerable,
it's enough, meaning that everything else is

924
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.439
intolerable, like everything else is terrible. Oh, I read this from the

925
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:26.159
earlier passage talking about like the ritual
purity and chastity, and the women also

926
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.880
sharing this feast, the greater part
of whom, though old, are virgins

927
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.600
in respect of their purity, not
indeed through necessity, as some of the

928
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:38.840
priestesses among the Greeks are, who
have been compelled to preserve their chastity more

929
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.960
than they would have done of their
own accord, but out of an admiration

930
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.079
for and love of wisdom, with
which they are desirous to pass their lives,

931
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.239
on account of which they are indifferent
to the pleasures of the body,

932
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:53.960
desiring not a mortal but an immortal
offspring, which the soul that is attached

933
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.680
to God is alone able to produce
by itself and from itself, the Father

934
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:01.039
having sown it into rays of light, shiable only by the intellect, by

935
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:04.720
means of which it will be able
to perceive the doctrines of wisdom. Bro,

936
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:13.720
we're talking about we're talking about doctrines
of wisdom coming from a mortal rays

937
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.920
of light. Yeah. That sounds
like Theosophy or like or Rosicrucianism or I

938
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:21.439
mean, dude, it's like this
was written two thousand years ago. I

939
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.960
keep saying that because it keeps blowing
my mind. Written two thousand years ago

940
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:31.239
about a society that existed five thousand
years before that. At least, oh

941
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:34.680
yeah, at least because they are
he also one of them also said thousands

942
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:39.119
of ages, right, Like,
so who knows? One of them said

943
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.960
time immemorial, right, the most
ancient of all orders? Like, bro,

944
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:47.039
what is going on here? Like? And and the current secret societies

945
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:53.000
and wisdom traditions are talking about the
same stuff exactly the same stuff, dude,

946
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:56.319
No, they're talking about them.
These are the real ogs, That's

947
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.479
what I'm saying. Man, Like
I really believe the Eenoch stuff. Oh

948
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:01.159
yeah, it's hard to deny.
No, it is. When you get

949
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.439
in there and you start doing some
cross referencing, it all lines up,

950
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:09.520
makes sense. It lines up exactly. That's why I'm like, just because

951
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:14.039
it does it there's not like physical
proof whatever. Just come on, read

952
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:17.640
between the lines, overlap like that
stuff happens. It's crazy, bro,

953
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:20.399
Like we all seen Scooby Doo.
You know, you just put the pieces

954
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:27.520
together and it makes sense. I'm
serious. There's a couple more main points

955
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:31.159
here. They had the strict belief
that the soul is immortal. This is

956
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.880
from the Wars of the Jews too
by Flavius Josephus. For their doctrine is

957
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:39.840
this that bodies are corruptible, and
that the matter they are made of is

958
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.720
not permanent, but that the souls
are immortal and continue forever, and that

959
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.399
they come out of the most subtile
air and are united to their bodies as

960
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:49.680
to prisons. What that sounds like, wow, gnosticism? Wow right,

961
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:53.439
this is the prison realm, or
it's the allegory of hell. Right,

962
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:57.760
that they are united to their bodies
as to prisons, and to which they

963
01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:01.880
are drawn by a natural certain natural
enticement. But that when they are set

964
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:04.840
free from the bonds of the flesh, they then, as released from a

965
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:11.479
long bondage, rejoice and mount upwards. What's that sound like? Her meticism.

966
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.760
It's the idea that the souls are
constantly incarnating upwards on the path of

967
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:20.359
evolution. They mount upward when they're
freed from the flesh. And this is

968
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:26.000
like the opinions of the Greeks,
that good souls have their habitations beyond the

969
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:29.359
ocean, in a region that is
neither oppressed with storms of rain or snow,

970
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:31.760
or with intense heat, but that
this place is such as refreshed by

971
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.520
the gentle breathing of a west wind
that is perpetually blowing from the ocean,

972
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:41.399
while they allot to bad souls a
dark and tempestuous den full of never seasing

973
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:44.720
punishments. And indeed, the Greeks
seem to me to have followed the same

974
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.079
notion when they allot the islands of
the blessed to their brave men, whom

975
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:50.039
they call heroes and demigods, and
to the souls of the wicked, the

976
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:55.000
region of the ungodly and hades,
where their fables relate. The certain persons

977
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:59.800
such as Sisyphus and Tantalus, and
Ixion and Titus are punished, which is

978
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.479
on this first supposition the souls are
immortal, And thence are those exhortations to

979
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:09.439
virtue and dehortations from wickedness collected,
whereby good men are better than the conduct

980
01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:13.439
of their life and the hope they
have of reward after their death. And

981
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:17.239
whereby the vehement inclinations of bad men
to vice are restrained by the fear and

982
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:20.840
expectation that they are in. And
although they should lie concealed in this life,

983
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:26.239
they should suffer immortal punishment after their
death. These are the divine.

984
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.560
These are the divine doctrines of the
ess scenes about the soul, which lay

985
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.920
in unavoidable bait for such as have
once had a taste of their philosophy.

986
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:40.680
Note. I believe, if I'm
just putting my personal belief on this,

987
01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:43.720
I believe elements of this are true. But I think it's more like,

988
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:48.199
you know, it's not like dying
and going to some other realm. I

989
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:51.119
think, just based on my personal
study and what we talk about, and

990
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:55.079
I'm sure you guys would have no
problem agreeing with this, I think it's

991
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:59.359
more like you keep coming here,
you know what I mean? Yeah,

992
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:02.520
like Ian carnegieh were you were bad
this life where you're gonna struggle more the

993
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.039
next one, but it's going to
teach you more, you know what I

994
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.279
mean? Yeah, But it's cool
to see how they believe. That's how

995
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:13.760
I perceive that they live very Oh, this is crazy. They lived very

996
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.760
long lives because of perfect sobriety.
I forgot to mention. They never drank

997
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:19.239
wine. They considered it folly.
They had an extremely clean diet. Most

998
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:23.439
of them only ate bread, you
know, every night or once a week.

999
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:29.960
Mean they would eat meat. But
it was like the more the more

1000
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:35.640
fanatical you know, the market,
the cleaner the diet, or the more

1001
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:39.760
bland the diet, because they believed
it's, you know, you're more spiritual.

1002
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:43.640
But there were reports of the meeting
meat. They don't fear death,

1003
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:45.880
and they have the utmost loyalty to
God and absolute faith in eternal life after

1004
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.399
death. From wars of the Jews
to Josephus. They are long lived also,

1005
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:54.680
and so much that many of them
live above one hundred years by means

1006
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:58.520
of the simplicity of their diet,
nay as I think, by means of

1007
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.359
their regular course of life. They
observe. Also they condemned the miseries of

1008
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:05.399
life and are above pain by the
generosity of their mind. And as for

1009
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:09.880
death, if it will be for
their glory, they esteem it better than

1010
01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:15.199
living. Always and indeed, our
war with the Romans gave abundant evidence I

1011
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:20.159
lost my spot because of a stigmatism. Oh, our war with the Romans

1012
01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:24.880
gave abundant evidence what great souls they
had in their trials, wherein although they

1013
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.760
were tortured and distorted, burnt and
torn to pieces, and went through all

1014
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.239
kinds of instruments of torment, that
they might be forced either to blaspheme their

1015
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:34.439
legislator, or to eat what was
forbidden them, yet they could not be

1016
01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:38.600
made to do any of it,
not once to flatter their tormentors, or

1017
01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:41.239
to even shed a tear. But
they smiled in their pains of torture and

1018
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:45.560
laughter. Those who scorn inflicted their
torments upon them, and resigned up their

1019
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.840
souls with great alacrity, as expecting
to receive them again. Alchemy. Yep,

1020
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:53.560
Wow, what you're I said?
Alacrity? No, No, no,

1021
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:57.920
you're saying. I'm saying that they're
literally saying, they're like rejoicing and

1022
01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.920
happy at the people who are trying
to call them harm torture and torture them.

1023
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.520
And that's alchemy, right, you
know what I mean. It's like

1024
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:11.039
changing your perception. It's that's But
also they're so strictly loyal to the order

1025
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:15.319
that they never there's not a single
report of them, you know, understand,

1026
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:21.159
Like they existed in a time where
the Romans were massacring Jews and Christians

1027
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:26.960
oh around the world. Yeah,
hunting them down, torturing them, burning

1028
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:30.520
them, peeling their flesh off,
crucifying them on crosses. Like we're talking

1029
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:36.079
about vicious, vicious, horrific murder. Yeah. And in all of that

1030
01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:41.000
them being tortured and killed and played
alive, there's not a single report of

1031
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:45.399
them giving up their secrets. But
actually that they smiled and they embraced death

1032
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.920
to be one with the spirit.
Yeah, talk about spiritual people. What

1033
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:55.199
were you going to say, my
angel? I interpreted that as a they

1034
01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:59.680
didn't feel the pain that too,
Yeah, it said that, yeah,

1035
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:05.319
pain because of your mind, you
know, forego all the goodness of life.

1036
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:11.119
You can become a superhero. It's
like the It's like when Ryan set

1037
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.640
himself on fire because he didn't want
to drink piss mugs that set themselves on

1038
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:19.560
fire and don't feel pain. Okay, I'm actually I'm almost done here.

1039
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:24.880
And I skipped a lot of texts
about I went really text happy this time,

1040
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:30.720
but they had advanced prophecy abilities,
which was actually recognized by several contemporaries

1041
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:35.199
of the time as well as it
was reported that they were consulted by King

1042
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:38.960
Herod. There was a Herodian dynasty, which you know, like in the

1043
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.079
time of Jesus being born, it
was King Herod, right, yeah,

1044
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:45.279
yeah, I'm not sure who it
was. I think before Herod it was

1045
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:47.720
the Maccabean dynasty, and that's when
they had the Macabean revolt and they through

1046
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.960
through that dynasty out and then brought
in the family of Herod. But it

1047
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:58.119
was reported that King Herod actually went
and consulted the s scenes and had them

1048
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.000
that he had a bunch of different
priests and I can't remember which text I

1049
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:04.600
read this in, but it was
like the essims prophecy that they provided was

1050
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:11.560
the one that was correct. They
had advanced knowledge of prophecy. Damn.

1051
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:15.680
So even the king, which remember
what we talked about the Edgar Casey stuff,

1052
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:17.319
said oh, well, actually they
had an ancient prophecy that they would

1053
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:21.319
be the society that birth's the savior
figure. You know what I'm saying.

1054
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:30.600
These people were bad as they were, Yeah, they were next level oh

1055
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:32.399
oh, I said from wars of
the Jews too. There are those among

1056
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:38.399
them who undertake to foretel things to
come by reading the Holy books and using

1057
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:44.319
several sorts of purifications, and being
perpetually concern conversant and the discourse of the

1058
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:47.960
prophets. And it is seldom that
they miss in their predictions. Damn.

1059
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:50.920
They were split into different sects.
We already talked about this earlier. One

1060
01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:55.159
of the factions were all men,
completely solidate till death. The other faction

1061
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.760
married woman. But check this out, I said, married woman. They

1062
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:02.119
married woman. It's funny because they
had strict regulations about like marrying a partner.

1063
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:08.199
They had to date, they had
to be engaged in date for three

1064
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:14.479
years and try out their spouse.
That's very healthy, right, that's very

1065
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:21.920
healthy. They had to date for
three years before married because they had to

1066
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:30.159
reject any notion that it was like
some sort of you know, possible adulterists

1067
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:32.640
or you know, crazy relationship.
It had to be like partners that were

1068
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:36.680
equally matched and devoted to the same
thing. Now the crazy thing, which

1069
01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:40.319
I think is like, okay,
well, you know, maybe this part's

1070
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:45.960
not necessary. But when they're as
seen, wives were pregnant, they stayed

1071
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:49.199
away from them and let them carry
the child on their own because it was

1072
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:51.720
like, oh, no, I'm
not in this for pleasure. We're doing

1073
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:56.800
you know what. The Great Spirit
or God or whatever gave us the power

1074
01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:00.239
to create life, so this is
about that. So they would separate during

1075
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:02.159
pregnancy and childbirth and stuff like that. And I'm like, bro, how

1076
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.439
could you not be in the delivery
room? Right, you know what I

1077
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:09.399
mean? But it is what it
is. I get it if you're trying

1078
01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:14.319
to achieve what they were trying to
achieve, Like the logic makes sense.

1079
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:20.159
But yeah, the furniture in the
delivery room was tolerable. The cushions were

1080
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:25.119
just like, you know, they
had the slightest impression when you sat on.

1081
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:30.119
The rugs were so coarse. Yeah, that's funny, it says.

1082
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:34.640
Moreover, there is another order of
Essenes talking about the Therapeutae in Alexandria Egypt,

1083
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:38.600
who agree with the rest as to
their way of living and customs and

1084
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:42.319
laws, but different from them in
the point of marriage, as thinking that

1085
01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:45.520
by not marrying, they cut off
the principal part of human life, which

1086
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:48.000
is the prospect of succession. Nay, rather that if all men should be

1087
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.640
of the same opinion, the whole
race of mankind would fail. However,

1088
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:57.880
they try their spouses for three years, and if they find that they have

1089
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.680
their natural purgations thrice as trials that
they are likely to be fruitful, they

1090
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:05.600
then actually marry them. But they
do not use to accompany with their wives

1091
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:09.840
when they are with child, as
a demonstration that they do not marry out

1092
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:13.079
of regard to pleasure, but for
the sake of posterity. Now the women

1093
01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:15.920
go into the baths with some of
their garments on, as the men do,

1094
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.399
with somewhat girded about them. And
these are the customs of this order

1095
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:24.880
of essenes. Wow. So yeah, I mean, that's that's all my

1096
01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:29.079
notes. It's it's crazy, right, yeah, it's it's completely unbelievable.

1097
01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:36.720
So in summary, it sounds like
this is potentially the most ancient wisdom tradition

1098
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:44.239
who is trying to like crack the
code of spiritual reality. And also they

1099
01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:48.680
really don't like comfy pillows. Only
where on the plain is white robes.

1100
01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:58.439
No, But but in seriousness,
these were the pioneers of our spiritual understanding

1101
01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:02.800
of this realm, and all those
that came after them are like, listen

1102
01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:08.279
up to these guys, Like the
people that we talk about in terms of

1103
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:15.399
modern wisdom traditions are doing almost everything
almost the same. I just had a

1104
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:19.319
revelation. Yeah, for sure,
almost almost everything that the knowledge is the

1105
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.760
same. Yes, you know,
maybe not all the practices because the modern

1106
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:25.439
times we're like, well, you
know, it's like it's okay to like

1107
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:30.279
be with your spouse. That's all
righty room, Yeah, it's it's okay

1108
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:32.079
to like have comfy pillows. Like, you know, there's definitely a morph

1109
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.680
over modern times. I like,
but no, I just had the craziest

1110
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:41.279
thought too. Like we've already established
through historical fact that there was a chapter

1111
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:46.560
of the Essenes in Egypt, and
we know from the biblical text that when

1112
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:50.079
Jesus was born, the king Herod
because remember he was consulted by the magi

1113
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:54.319
and they were like, oh,
it's the star of the prophecy. The

1114
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.800
star's here, there's you know,
the Savior is born, and King Herod's

1115
01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:00.199
like, oh, fuck, like
I want to kill him. The Jewish

1116
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:06.239
prophecy one of the reasons that contemporary
Jews of the time, like the Pharisees

1117
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:13.479
and the Sadducees especially especially the Sadducees. They hated Jesus so much because he

1118
01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:17.239
wasn't the Messiah that was according to
the prophecy of the Jews, right,

1119
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:21.920
because the messiah prophecy was that he
would be a royal king. Right.

1120
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:27.119
Jesus was not right exactly. He
was just a normal dude. He was

1121
01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:30.720
a carpenter, you know, and
they hated him. They didn't believe him

1122
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:32.079
to be you know, like they
were like, this is your guy,

1123
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:38.439
right, like exactly exactly. So
King Herod when Jesus was born, was

1124
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:43.039
like, because of this, this
this prophecy that the Messiah would be the

1125
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:46.640
next king, right, it would
be this king who liberated the Exactly.

1126
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:48.720
He's like, no, no,
I'm the king. So that's that's why

1127
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:49.840
he did it. He was like, no, no, me, I

1128
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:54.920
don't want anybody born who's going to
challenge my dynasty. So he put out

1129
01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:58.439
a decree of all the babies killed. Yep, all the babies from zero

1130
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:00.239
to two years old, the male
ones, yes, kill them all.

1131
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:04.479
Yeah. So we know in the
story that when Jesus was born they sent

1132
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.760
him to Egypt. Well, dude, we just realized. I always wondered,

1133
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:14.199
where do you go. There was
this chapter of scenes that's pretty I

1134
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:15.960
mean, you know, we don't
know for sure, but it's interesting they

1135
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.279
sent him there and there's a lot
of people that think he was an scene.

1136
01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:24.039
Yeah, and him and John were
doing some shit. Yeah, and

1137
01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:27.439
then it's like you get into it, there's a thirty year gap. Exactly

1138
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.159
what was he doing during that time? Right? You know what I'm saying.

1139
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.680
It starts to click. That's that's
the cross referencing I'm talking about,

1140
01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:39.079
Like pull the stuff from everywhere,
cross reference it. Figure it out.

1141
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:42.399
Were they allowed to work out?
Did you read about that? I don't

1142
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.319
know if the essenes were, I
don't know, why would they do it?

1143
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:47.319
I mean bread like once a week, bro, they probably know.

1144
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:55.680
But Jesus was ripped, Well he
got well he might have gone off in

1145
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.439
these thirty years and got jacked.
Well, he probably got jacked, like

1146
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:02.680
living in the commune with the scenes, like being a blacksmith, labor and

1147
01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:06.439
stuff. That's what I mean.
Singing their song all starting to make sense.

1148
01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:11.399
Yeah, Jack lifting up logs and
like we know he was jacked.

1149
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:14.760
It just makes sense. It does. And we know he drank Natty light

1150
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:17.560
too, Like we know all that
that was the one thing about the Esscenes

1151
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:20.840
he rejected. And he's like,
y'all ain't drinking natty light. That's crazy

1152
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:24.680
though, because the Essens rejected wine. But then it's like with damn,

1153
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:29.520
jesus first miracle was turn the water
to wine, you know. So it's

1154
01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:33.600
like plot hole. But I feel
like everybody would have just turned a blind

1155
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:36.520
eye to Jesus if he brought some
wine up in the commune, right,

1156
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:42.079
drink wine with Jesus, that's Jesus. Yeah, we ain't worried about it.

1157
01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:44.960
I would definitely drink wine with Jesus. Fuck yeah, I drink wine

1158
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:50.199
with you. We probably have at
least once or so. But no,

1159
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:56.000
it's crazy. And then you have
all the like Edgar Casey stuff and even

1160
01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:59.800
like the Lord's Cannon and even like
the Theosophy stuff and all these other like

1161
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.000
not only like psychics in the last
one hundred years, but like these secret

1162
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:08.800
society traditions like the Theosophist, the
Rosicrucians, the Masons, et cetera,

1163
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:11.479
et cetera, that are all like, oh no, dude, yeah,

1164
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:17.079
like Jesus was a part of an
order and went to the temple in Alexandria,

1165
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:20.159
Egypt of the Great White Brotherhood,
and it's like wait wait, wait

1166
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:24.680
wait, yeah, but we know
that THEES scenes from historical fact had a

1167
01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:29.720
chapter near Alexandria Egypt. It's like
this mix of like it's like three layers

1168
01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:32.800
here. It's like we have the
legend as well as like what is said

1169
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:36.920
by the secret societies of modern times. We have these historical documents that are

1170
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:41.439
corroborating that they definitely were mystics,
and then we have the psychics who are

1171
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:44.560
like oh no, yeah, like
this, this, this, this,

1172
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:47.680
this, this, And we know
for a fact that THEES scenes history was

1173
01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:53.439
wiped out, so obviously there's gonna
be lots of gaps, right, So

1174
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:57.920
it would only be logical to try
to fill those gaps in with what we

1175
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:02.239
do know, right, and what
we do know lines up very pointedly to

1176
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:08.319
like maybe Jesus was an s scene, Like it seems pretty legit. Well,

1177
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:12.319
I have no you know, trouble
believing that. For me. The

1178
01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:15.359
bigger picture here is like the Enoch
thing that too, you know what I

1179
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:19.279
mean, there's lots of gaps to
light filled. Yeah, Like I already

1180
01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:25.920
believe in my mind about you know, the Jesus scene thing, Jesus being

1181
01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:29.920
an for me. It's like,
was he not chermet Magestus? You know

1182
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.439
what I mean? That's the big
question, right, And so this lends

1183
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:36.800
itself pretty heavily to support that,
right, Yeah, it's crazy. I

1184
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:43.279
don't know. Wow wow wow wow
wow wow wow. Banger, dude,

1185
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:55.720
banger, banger, banger. I
love that. Like, just had like

1186
01:26:55.760 --> 01:27:00.319
the most spiritually profound, like in
depth intelligent conversation in this. How we

1187
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:02.920
end it? Yeah, anger,
it's a manger. You know what we

1188
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:06.039
should do, man, we should
we should do a little soft plug right

1189
01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:12.479
now. Okay, we have we
have new tolerably comfortable pillows coming out.

1190
01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:17.680
Yeah, it's it's actually it's it's
actually cushion that we take from the rear

1191
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:23.600
end of horses and we stitch it
together to make them kind of not that

1192
01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:27.560
soft, right, not very soft. So you've been using horses. But

1193
01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:30.119
you told me to cut my hair
to make the pillows. Nobody told you

1194
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:32.680
to cut your hair. You did
that because you wanted to know. Ryan

1195
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:36.479
said, cut your hair, we're
gonna make pillows. You did. Yeah,

1196
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:43.760
Actually we were we were actually thinking
about taking his hair and fucking stuff

1197
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:48.159
and pillows. That would make a
tolerably comfortable pillows Oh for sure, Yeah,

1198
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:54.079
a little more tolerably not much,
not much, a greasy hair filled

1199
01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:58.960
pillow. I mean, you know, I would sleep on it. Dude.

1200
01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:02.000
That was That was as a banger
you can delivered hard. Appreciate it.

1201
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:06.239
Now we're gonna go uh switch out
costumes, touch and makeup, and

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then we're gonna do the next section, which is spirit science science soft plug

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we do. We have a Patreon. I feel like we rarely ever plug

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this on the show Patreon. It's
just bletso said So, or you could

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find it on bletso setsa dot com. We have an amazing discord community in

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there, and it's an extra show
and an extra show and you know,

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potentially a more around the corner.
Oh yeah, and yeah. It's just

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it's it's awesome and it's it's it's
a way like it's a way to help

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out the show. And if if
you don't want to do that, that's

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totally cool. Just listening to the
show helps us regardless, absolutely, you

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know, but we get a lot
of questions, how can we help huge

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fan want to support so check letso
said so dot com for some tolerable merch.

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Yeah, it is tolerable. We
should put that kind of like on

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the thing tolerable. We should just
make a shirt that's like just literally just

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like well yeah, but but it's
all white. Yea, no logo,

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no nothing, no prayer. Yes, that's epic. Alright, let's hit

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them with it. Do you want? Bye? Bye? Guys? Weird

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things happen in the backyard of Bloods
House. And see it over the look

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got it was so weird. You're
coming closer to us. I hear stayed

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straight up like smiling on the inside
of it. No one knows mad,

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Wow, it's come right over come
or not happy? Ain't happy anything happened