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This is pod popular podcast for the
people, the Great Love Debate. It's

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the Great Love Debate, the Great
Love Debate. It's a great loved base.

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Hi again, everyone's Brian Howie.
Welcome to The Great Love Debate,

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the world's number one dating and relationship
podcast since twenty fifteen. I am back

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here in these studios of Pod Populive
podcast for the people. I am at

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the one in Palm Beach Gardens,
which I have not been at in quite

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some time. It's very nice here
if you have the means Palm Beach Gardens.

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Quick note before I get into what
I want to get into and who

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I want to get into it with. I know I guys have promised you

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the Bachelor and Bachelorette Party Spectacular.
I've been teasing it for like three episodes

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now that I keep saying it's going
to be the next episode, you guys

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have been absolutely burying us with these
horror stories about your bachelor bachelorette parties.

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I'm surprised anybody gets married once I
hear all these. So I'm going to

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give it one more week because you
guys just even as of like an hour

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ago, I got like thirty more
choosing email Great Love Tobait at gmail dot

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com with your herds stars, whether
you were the bride, the groom,

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the best man, the maid of
honor, or in a wedding party,

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or just did something really bad or
witness something really bad at a bachelor party.

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And we have had two deaths so
far at one of these things.

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So tell you that's where the bar. It's these things and many many divorces

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and breakups. So cave at mtur. If you're gonna have a bachelor bacherette

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party, send those in and we
will get to that. I want to

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continue ours. I don't know how
to say this without sounding insulting. As

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I've said several times over the last
couple of months, we're doing this series

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that are focused on women that are
say plus thirty five, and they are

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what I think is the single best
group of women that exists in the dating

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pool. However there are is the
one that they're the ones that have the

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most consternation issues, quandaries, forks
in the road, things to deal with.

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So I had somebody that I had
some I have a lot of questions

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for it because she has had some
forks in the road, she has made

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some changes. I don't know what
she looked like at twenty three. She

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might never look better than now.
I don't know. Her hair looks fantastic,

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so i'll give her that she is. Her husband was on here a

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couple months ago and he told you
guys, how to spend your money or

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not spend your money, and it
was very, very smart. So I

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brought in his better half today.
She's the host of the Spoiled Milk podcast,

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and I'm gonna let her explain why
that is because it leads to what

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I want to get into. Brooke
rash how are you? Hey? What's

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up? I'm laughing about the Bachelor
Bachelorette. You're like, oh, I

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think I'd like to come back for
that one. I mean, yeah,

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well, I mean I had I
had a very interesting bachelorette party. Where

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was it? It was in Vegas, and of course it was you know,

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the numb We're going to break this
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one place is Nashville for bachelor,
right. I got married twenty one years

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ago, so that was afore Nashville, right, Exactly, you should just

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be Vegas. One is Nashville.
Two is Scottsdale? Interesting? Yeah,

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and then there's Nashville or Vegas,
Miami, and we will get into all

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of that spoiled milk. Where did
that come from? So it actually came

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from an internet troll. We were
my husband and I were having an internet

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discussion about Leonardo DiCaprio and his tendency
to date these girls that are so super

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young, and the most recent one
is like nineteen. Now keep in mind

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he's almost fifty, and for us
personally, it's really disturbing because we have

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a nineteen year old daughter, right, so Leo's older than us and he's

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dating someone that is our daughter's age. And so through this like internet conversation,

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of course, a lot of people
agreed with the uh that they thought

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it was disturbing, But then they're
the people that were like, he's an

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adult, he can do what he
wants to do. I just was like,

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this girl's just got out of high
school. But hey, whatever,

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I digress. So this one commenter
said, well, of course he dates

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younger women because women age like spoil
milk. And I was just like,

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at first, like it made my
blood boil, and you know, I

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went like I started like keyboard like
and then I was like nope, like

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back it up. And I was
like, you know what, that's actually

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kind of like catchy. I think
I'm gonna like I was already like stirring

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on the whole podcast idea, and
I was like, I think I'm gonna

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use that because that's my bosf and
motivated. Yeah, I'm like, that's

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my whole goal in life is to
not become spoil milk. Like I see

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these older women who they just quite
honestly, they let themselves go. I'm

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not saying we shouldn't age at all, and of course women should do what

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they want to do. Okay,
if you want to let yourself go,

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let yourself go. I'm personally not
going to be one of those women that

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becomes spoiled milk that society doesn't even
see you anymore because you're like you're expired.

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Yeah. I agree not to defend
Leo because I think it's weird.

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I think it's part of his brand
at this point that if he started dating

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somebody more age appropriate, and I
don't if the world decide what that is.

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If he suddenly started to date like
a forty one year old woman,

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I think that makes him suddenly accelerate
the way he's perceived into an almost fifty

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year old man, because he still
has come off as kind of boyish and

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whatever, sort of like George Clooney
when George Clooney got George Clooney carried around

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this illusion that he was this perpetual
bachelor for many many years. He was

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married in his twenties for several years. That never because part of his image

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was I am Bacheler's George's ever gonna
settle down or whatever. He didn't put

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that on his bio at all.
So once he got married, people are

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like, oh, of course,
that's how he was holding out for this

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mature woman who runs his chair and
everything, like, no, this is

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his second wife. And I think
it's all part of branding. And I

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think Leo, if he suddenly dates, you know, forty two year old

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woman, I think it shifts therapy. So I think a lot of there's

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a lot of upside to him being
seen with the nineteen year old Victoria's Secret

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model, who he may actually not
be dating. I've heard rumors, but

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I'm not sure if we want to
talk about that. Okay, he turned

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into spoiled milk for those for those
rumors. Yeah, there's a lot of

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famous men who have a lot of
young models that they're probably not in the

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same house with. We'll just put
it that way, right the subtitle of

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your podcast, because I want to
get into that is the Hot Girl's Midlife

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Survival Guide. Now it's I've always
very excited when the hot girl says she's

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a hot girl. It's very empowering. It takes back what most people are

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saying about you anyway, and it
lets you control the dialogue. If it's

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okay, this is the way you
perceive me, I'm going to tell you

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how I'm going to be perceived.
And I am and I'm hot, and

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I'm forty and here's how I'm going
to make the moves and I'm a mom

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to navigate in the world. When
did you decide to sort of own that?

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When I was trying to come up
with a subtitle, I guess you

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know. I mean, I've just
I'll be forty three on Friday, so

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in two days, I'll be forty
three. Happy birthday, and I'm Jim

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and I and I'm sure that's not
a surprise. But I've just always been

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told like people are just always shocked
at my age, Like just for years

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and years and years, people have
always told me how young I look,

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and they always think I'm a lot
younger. And now I have, like

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I said, I have a teenage
daughter, and so she and I will

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be out in public somewhere shopping and
we're having a conversation and people will hear

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her call me mom and what like
they thought we were sisters. And so

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it wasn't like really an intentional thing, but I was like, hmm,

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maybe, like I'm onto something with
this whole like looking younger than I am

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and wanting to help other women feel
good as they get older. So like

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my whole mission with this podcast and
with you know what I'm what I do

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for a living is to help women
be the happiest, healthiest, and hottest

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in their forties and beyond. So
I feel like women get to a certain

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point where it's like they feel like
it's too late, and that's really just

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people in general, but women especially
right, and so I'm like, it

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can actually get better. Because you
mentioned about what I looked like when I

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was twenty three, I was not
hot. When I was twenty three,

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I was overweight. I was not
health conscious at all. It was like

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super inflamed. I like if I
pulled up a photo of myself, you

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would be shocked. So it's been
It wasn't one of those things where I

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just was like, oh, like
just effortlessly hot. Like. It's taken

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me a lot of intention, and
I've had a lot of health issues that

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I've had to overcome as well through
that process. So I just want to

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help women with all of the experiences
I've had. So when did you shift

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more change from a woman who needed
help to a woman who was providing the

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help. Was there like a fork
in the road where you flip the cards

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enough to think like, Okay,
I have a handle on this and I've

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gone far enough down this journey that
i think I can influence and have a

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voice in this conversation. I mean, it's been ongoing, but I would

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say really, for me, in
the last probably six to eight months,

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you know, one of my first
episodes I did was the three like shifts

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that I made in my health over
the last year. And one of those

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big things for me was I lost
twenty five pounds. I had been really

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sick for about three or four years. I had mold exposure which caused me

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to gain a lot of weight,
and I finally got that weight off.

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You know, like I didn't feel
good about myself this time last year.

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I'll just say that, like I
was. I was definitely struggling. It

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was affecting how I was showing up. It was affecting my business. And

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that's why it's so important. That's
why I really think it's so important,

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because when you don't feel confident,
it affects how you show up and how

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you can impact others and impact the
world. So I saw my business suffer

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as a result of, you know, low self esteem. So there was

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that. I lost weight, I
got some things shifted and fixed with my

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health, and we moved to Florida. I was living in Colorado, which

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was beautiful, but it was cold
for I don't know, like nine ten

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months out of the year, we
had snow in the you know. At

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the end of May last year,
my daughter graduated in a blizzard, and

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I just said, I can't do
this anymore. I moved to Florida,

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and I just feel so good in
the sunshine, like it's just healing my

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body. But you also can't hide
behind the clothes anymore. You have to

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be out there. You're wearing less. You have to end, as I

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said, your husband is on this
podcast. He's very fit. Yes,

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during that time, did that motivate
you that or did that put you into

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like a darker hole because you were
struggling with your health and you're struggling with

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your body. How does that work? Because normally it's the man who's kind

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of it's definitely a motivator because he's
always been fit and he's always been just

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into fitness. Like, he's always
looked good personally. I think he looks

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better now than he ever has at
forty five years old. But yeah,

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I mean it definitely made me self
conscious. I mean, first of all,

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I'm secure in my relationship. Ain't
no bitch coming along and stealing my

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husband. I'll just say that,
bitchy bitches, but beacious. But I

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want to look good. I want
to look good for him, but you

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know I want to look good for
me too, So yeah, I mean

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it definitely there. It definitely has
made me feel self conscious over the years

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because he's always been more into the
fitness arena than I have. I wrote

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a line twenty years ago. I
wrote this line. I wrote it in

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a play that I did. But
I look back and I stand by it,

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and I said that a woman finds
her finds her way through her teens,

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finds her body in her twenties,
finds her face in her thirties,

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and finds herself in her forties.
When did you feel you found yourself?

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Was that after becoming a mom?
Was that after like was there a moment,

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like a light bulb moment where you
because you know you and your husband

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both have shared your fairly publicly,
your sort of rags to rich's story,

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what was the light bulb that went
on for you that had been like,

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I can do whatever I want to
do, how I want to do it.

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I think it would be really hard
to define it into just one single

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moment. It's been a journey with
lots of ups and downs and bumps,

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and it's not necessarily been linear.
Was there a lowest low though? Like,

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can you pinpoint that it's like we
have got to make some changes and

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fuck this? Because that's where people
are in the dating world where I tell

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people all the time you talk about
moving from Colorado. I know you moved

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to Colorado. I know you've moved
a bunch of times where I say that

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if you are in a funk and
you really need to shake up your snow

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globe, Get the fuck out,
go somewhere else. Change your scenery,

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change your perspective, probably change your
outcome. Was there a low point where

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you, guys or you on your
own were just like, I'm not doing

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fifty years like this. Yeah,
I mean there's been there's been several.

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I would say that the the big
shift for us started about sixteen years ago

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when I started my first business,
and that was I had a three year

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old, I was pregnant with my
second child. I didn't want to just

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basically work to pay for daycare,
and I knew I had to do something.

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So I started my first like home
business at the time, and that

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was when I first made that decision
like I'm going to make a shift,

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And so it initially started as like
a survival like I need to be able

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to survive, and it shifted me
into this state of just running after success

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and deciding I wasn't gonna continue living
the way that I was living. The

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next shift for me was in twenty
ten when my son was diagnosed with autism

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and we just weren't really giving any
help from the medical world. Simultaneously,

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I'm dealing with my own health challenges
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that is the expert and they basically
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I had a pity party for myself
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like I had to like process everything, and then I was like,

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fuck this, I'm can I say
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I'm going to take matters into my
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my son is fifteen and he's doing
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that power into my hands, and
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really changed my health and just kind
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made because of our son, with
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I truly believe that because of that, my husband and I have aged

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substantially better than our peers. Like
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was like awful for us that forced
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we are thirteen years later, and
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if it hadn't, I would I
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chair. I wouldn't be sitting in
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I was, I would probably be
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of chronic health issues, not feeling
good about myself, right, you know

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what I mean? Good? And
I'm glad you're sitting in this chair.

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We have to pay for fresh milk
around here. We are with a host

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of spoiled milk. She's an influencer
and a whole lot of other things,

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brokerash. We are going to get
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a bunch of questions, but I'm
going to take a break right after this

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and we are back. Being an
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for a whole lot of haters.
Did you instantly learn to tune that out?

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Or is it still to this day? You're like, every time you

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go on social media you pay attention
to that. How do you tune up

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that noise? I mean, yeah, it's it. The louder you are,

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the more people you hear from.
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the years, I've gotten used to
it. You know, people are going

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to have opinions. I always that's
what you know. I work with women,

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and I help women make money online. I help influencers leverage their platform,

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and people don't want to put themselves
out there because they're afraid of judgment.

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And I'm like, why do you
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your bills. Like people are going
to have opinions of you regardless, no

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matter what you do. And so
it definitely has taken me time in developing

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thick skin to just you know,
be like okay, whatever now. Jason,

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I will say he deals with it
a lot better than I do.

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I think he really enjoys it,
like he gets off on it. Yeah,

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I like me. I love it
as long as you're listening. Yeah,

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yeah, But I definitely see how
it can shut people down who aren't

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maybe strong enough to handle it.
Well. You know, when you set

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some goals and you achieve some of
them, I think it's positive to share

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them. I talked a little bit
on that podcast with Jason about this,

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and as you said, and most
people are just trying to get through the

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hour, much less the day,
and especially if you are a parent,

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which I can under I can understand
from a distance, not up close.

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It is a shit storm trying to
survive every single day as a parent,

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which is why I am not one. It seems awful, But when you

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were in a place like this,
a lovely part of the world. You

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are in Palm Beach and it is
beautiful. It does you have a choice

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to look at these twenty thirty forty
million dollar homes and look at them with

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envy or look at them with motivation. And I get that people are most

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people are. You can barely,
you know, get through the week and

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pay your bills and cover that.
It's really hard to see that as an

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option. But if you have an
incremental goal that substantially moves you out of

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your place in life or your comfort
zone and sort of shoot for that,

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that was what he said is the
biggest mistake that people make, at least

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when it comes to money, is
they don't make goals big enough. How

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do you go from a day of
just like, listen, I'm just trying

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to survive. I'm just trying to
get some answers here too. Is there

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a path for me to have a
second home or a first home, or

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a boat or move or private school
or any of these things? How do

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you sort of harness the negativeness and
still point your arrow in a better direction?

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Mindset? I mean, here's the
thing I have a really hard time

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dealing with people who make excuses because
we're all dealing with shit, all the

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things that you just talked about.
Everyone has no matter what walk of life

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you come from, everyone's dealing with
something right. It's up to you how

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you choose to deal with it right. And I came from nothing and I've

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made something out of myself because I
chose to. I wasn't lucky, I

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wasn't privileged, No one gave me
anything, like, I've worked my ass

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off for everything that I have,
every opportunity, like if it comes to

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me, awesome, or I'll chase
it down if I have to, you

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know. So it really boils down
to mindset, like I'm just coming off

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of. I was sick for a
few days and that was really triggering for

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me after being ill for four years. I actually had to go to the

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er because my fever got really high
and I got dehydrated. I had to

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go get fluids and anyhow, I
mean, yeah, I mean it all

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comes back to mindset. It's like, Okay, I have to make a

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mindset shift, right. You have
to make a mindset shift, and you

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have to be intentional and you have
to work on your mindset every day.

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Every day is not going to be
great. But as long as each day,

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as long as you don't stew in
it, right, as long as

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you don't stay there, like if
you need to have a bad day,

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like I have a bad day,
but just don't let yourself, don't let

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yourself stay there. And you mentioned
about the homes here, and it's very

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interesting that you said that because I
feel like when we were in Colorado we

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got a little complacent because people out
there are just kind of like into nature

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and hiking, you want to be
out of your home, Yeah, in

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Colorado. Yeah, It's just it's
a different vibe there, whereas here,

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like people are motivated, you know, like we've met a lot of really

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cool people here and it actually helped
us step our game up and start to

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dream again. So you can look
at those houses and you can have envy,

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and you can think negative things about
those people, But the truth is

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a lot of those people, you
know, of course, some of them

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are not first generation money, right, but at somewhere, somewhere along the

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line, somewhere in their fam someone
and their family had to say this stops

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with me. I'm going to make
a change and that's what my husband and

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I are doing. So you can
look at those people and you can be

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envious, or you can look at
them and you can be inspired. And

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that's that's what they do for us
here. Like I'm glad we move because

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now I'm around bigger things and it's
given me something more to work for.

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Because you always have to have goals
out in front of you. If you

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stop, you're just gonna stop.
Like if you stop dreaming and you stop

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setting goals, you're going to get
complacent. And you have got to get

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rid of the words why her or
why him, Like you have got to

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stop looking at other people as envy. You have to look at the other

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people as there are possibilities out there. I bet we will bring this up

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on the Bachelor and Bacherette Party show, but there's a different energy between we.

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I shot a pilot for VH one
about this years ago. It was

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called Last Night, and it was
about men and women's bachelorette and bacherette parties,

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and the men wanted to go to
bachelor parties to do bad things.

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The women wanted the bride to do
bad things because there was a certain element

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of jealousy and cattiness that they did
not necessarily support her in this. And

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when you surround yourself with that negative
energy, you should be like, great,

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she's getting married. That means it's
possible for somebody to find happiness and

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love or whatever. That's a good
environment to be around. When you were

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in a wealthy community like that,
you shouldn't drive around being pissed off at

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the one percent or the point one
percent that is here. You should be

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like, there are possibilities for people
from all walks of life who took all

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paths to get there. When you
surround yourself and you get rid of the

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envy of people around you, you
should want people to be happy and successful

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and not look at it. It
just means the odds are better than you

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thought. That people can make it
right one hundred percent. You have to

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believe that anything and everything is possible
for you, and if you don't believe

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that it's possible, then it's not. And you're originally from where I'm originally

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from a really small town in Alabama. Okay, so a really small town

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in Alabama? Are you? Is
there always a point where you're like,

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I want to get out of my
small town in Alabama? Because most of

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people in your small town in Alabama
are probably still in your small town in

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Alabama, just like every town.
Eighty percent of people stay in their hometown,

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regardless of what that is for most
of their lives. Some of that

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is habits, some of that is
laziness of as family. Sometimes it's just

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a really nice town. I don't
know, I grew up in a really

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nice town. I don't want any
part of it. If that's me,

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were you when did you be?
Like? I want to get beyond my

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small town in Alabama. I want
to get out of Alabama. Like how

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did those increments go? As long
as I could remember, I mean,

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I grew up in poverty, so
I remember from a very young age being

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like, why aren't we rich?
I don't understand, like why do we

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not have money? Like I see
other people on TV that have money,

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Like I want more? So yeah, I always wanted to get out.

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And don't get me wrong, there
are great people where I'm from, and

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I love Alabama. I appreciate my
roots because I really especially my grandparents,

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like really raise me to have morals
and you know, really developed who I

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am underneath. But I felt that
in anyone who is from a small town

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probably understands this that there's a very
limited thinking, especially when people never get

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outside of that area. So I
knew I had to I had to get

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out, right, you can always
go back, but you got to get

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out to know whether or not you
want to go back. You've got to

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leave at some point. I don't
care how comfortable you are, are you

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you've got to go try it.
We bring that up on this podcast all

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the time that we think if you
are not in a committed relationship or you're

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not you need to move at least
seven hundred miles every seven years, yep,

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like a real distance, not just
from here to there, not two

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towns over, like really experience what
it's like to live in a different part

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of the country, even even different
part of the world. You will discover

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more things about yourself than you ever
will about the new town that you're in

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or the town that you left behind. And I think people don't do that,

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and I'm always you know, we
run into a lot of people who

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are frustrated in their love, dating, relationship environment. They're going to the

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same bar they went to in high
school. You know, they're recycling the

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boyfriend from junior year, they're hoping
the guy down the street who they had

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a crush on him got divorced,
Like there has to be a different sandbox

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to kick around in, you know, I know those people. Actually,

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do you feel when you're in communication
with them? Do you feel envy from

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them? Do you feel like you
go brook? Like what are you getting

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back? I just you know,
like my best friend growing up, that's

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her kind of situation. Like she's
my age, she's divorced, she's doing

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the whole dating app thing, still
in the same you know, like small

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town, and I just feel bad
for her, Like, you know,

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she's not like MBS. She's always
been supportive of me. But I just

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I just like, wow, Like
I'm just I'm grateful that I'm not in

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that situation. Slight pivot here,
and not to sound like your gay best

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friend, but you have fantastic hair, and I know you take great pride

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in that. Somebody told me this
a couple of months ago, as she

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was actually a doctor. She said, the thing that people underestimate about what

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is going to help them look youthful
and vibrant is not the color of their

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hair. They spend too much time
worrying about grays, it's the health of

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their hair, and they say a
healthy hair frames the face and sets up

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everything for youthfulness. You believe in
that, And how do we get healthier

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hair? Oh yeah, I mean
you have the wrong hairstyle and it can

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age you twenty years for sure.
One of the things that people don't know

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women, especially is that our hair
actually ages faster than our skin. We're

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very busy slathering anti aging skincare products
all over our face and our neck and

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the rest of our body, but
we're completely neglecting our hair and our scalp.

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And your hair health starts with your
scalp. So if you support your

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scalp and you support scalp health,
then you're going to have healthy hair growth.

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And then of course a lot of
that has to do with what you're

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putting into your body as well,
like what is your lifestyle, Like what

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are you eating? Are you running
through the drive through at McDonald's or you

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know, And if you have that
healthy glow, you're going to make yourself

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attractive and more noticeable and just look
like you give a shit. And people

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worry way too much about the color
the grays and don't worry about the rest

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of the stuff. I don't care
personally about my hair, but I have

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hair. It's easier for me to
say, you know, the balding men

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out there like to do something,
you know, work on it, book

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healthier, whatever. A right.
I'm gonna let you plug all your stuff

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and the podcast in a second.
But this is your first time on the

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show. You have to think back
to your many many years, to your

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swinging single days. We play something
called worst date or first date, So

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you have to either give us the
absolute worst date you ever went on your

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life or the greatest first date you
ever went on in your life. Your

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choice. Oh my gosh. So
here's the thing you said, you're swinging

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twenties. I met Jason when I
was nineteen. Okay, Well, in

410
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your Alabama swinging teen days, I
dated a few losers. I'll just say

411
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that. Okay, Well, what
was your first date with your husband at

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nineteen? Do you remember? Is
it going down to the well? I'll

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tell you the story of how we
met. How about that, deil?

414
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Okay, So we met in English
class. We both enrolled in our local

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community college, and we were in
English one oh one and we kind of

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had ran in some of the same
circles, so we never met each other.

417
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.839
Well, he walked in and I
was immediately enamored, like who was

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this guy? I was attracted to
his energy. So it had been a

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few weeks. And then finally we
go to a computer lab. Okay,

420
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so this is dating it a little
bit. So this is before we carried

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like computers in our hand, right, So you had to go to the

422
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computer lab. You had to go
to the computer lab for whatever the project

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was. And he comes in late, the last seed available, sitting next

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to me at the computer lab,
and so I'm over there feverishly typing because

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I've always been a social media girl, even like from the very beginning.

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And he's like, so what do
you what are you doing over there?

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And I'm like, I'm just talking
to my friend in New York. And

428
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keep in mind we're in Alabama,
so I don't, you know, have

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a network at this point, but
like you're talking to someone New York,

430
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.039
like New York, Like now,
that's like no big deal. But in

431
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the year two thousand, we had
just survived y two k Okay, this

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is where we're at. And he
was like, what is that? And

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I was like, oh, it's
AOL instant messenger, and he says,

434
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I know right, and he's I
probably downloaded it illegally on the school computer

435
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.759
too, now that I think about
it, I'm sure it wasn't on there,

436
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but or installed it. But he
says, hey, I just got

437
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:06.039
a computer for Christmas, actually,
and would you mind coming over to my

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place after class and showing me how
to install this program? So of course

439
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:12.839
I'm like, well, yeah,
like ause, I totally had the hots

440
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:17.240
for this guy. So that was
really kind of our first date. I

441
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.720
had a tutoring session afterwards because I
sucked at math and my tutor happened to

442
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live in the same neighborhood as him. So I was like, after my

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00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.519
math session, which I totally didn't
pay attention to at all, I'm like,

444
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.200
I'll swing by and I'll show you
how to install this program. And

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so I go over to his house
and I show him how to install the

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program, and we hung out and
talked for a while, and I remember

447
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.519
I was so angry he didn't not
so angry, Okay, I was disappointed

448
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.000
that he didn't like try to kiss
me, like the first time that I

449
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.039
went over to his place. He's
like, all right, see you later.

450
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And shut the door, and I
was like, what come to find

451
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:53.119
out he had a girlfriend and he
had to break up with But years later

452
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.960
I found out. I mean it
was probably like ten or more years later.

453
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.839
All of a sudden, we were
talking to someone and he tells some

454
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:07.319
that he actually ran home after class
and he deleted AOL and some messenger off

455
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.079
of his computer. So he played
he acted like, you know, played

456
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.200
dumb. He acted like he didn't
know what AOL and some messenger was so

457
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.200
he could get me to come back
to There you go AOL instant messenger love

458
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:19.759
and there you go, dump the
girl, kiss the girl. That's a

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00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.640
good lesson. Good, that's good
story. He had integrity. But I

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00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:29.079
mean I can't remember like a worst
day. The worst day to ever had

461
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.920
with Jason was our second wedding anniversary
when we went to Macaroni Grill and his

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00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.880
card decline. Yeah, he told
the same story. Wow, that was

463
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.519
good. My first time in Alabama. And this is going back to the

464
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:41.960
phone book days. There were a
phone book I had. I was looking

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for restaurants and I saw under Italian
restaurants and I just saw Dominoes and I

466
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.359
was like, I'm not in New
York anymore. No, But I just

467
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.000
remember the respect I got when I
said it's from New York. Somebody goes,

468
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.160
I go away from I go New
York where New York City? And

469
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:56.759
they go, oh, do you
have sex with supermodels? And I'm like,

470
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.480
well, no, there's like twelve
million people there, maybe four have

471
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.160
sex with supermodels. Leo is one
of them. I was not one of

472
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.119
fum that was my Alabama are are
you know? Like for me, Like,

473
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.720
my impression of New York City was
like watching Friends in the nineties.

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Growing up as a deal all our
foreigners learn English, they watch Friends at

475
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:18.599
six people talking at the same time. That's not a good impression of New

476
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.759
York because nobody affords that size apartment
at that age. So anyway, all

477
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.880
right, plug your plug your world
to the world, plug my world.

478
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Yeah. So check out my podcast
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Survival Guide. It's really the health
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So if you're into health and beauty
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some improvements in your life and you
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really the place it's going to be
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be with your beauty, but we
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I said, my mission is to
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hottest lives in their forties and beyond. You can find me on Instagram is

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where I like to hang out.
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You go find yourself in your forties. You were good. Thank you

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