WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:07.360 The old bad, the old, the bold. Billy Cunningham, the great 2 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:10.000 American, and I've been an hour. Rick Hamilton will be here from her 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:14.480 appraisals first to talk about how you can contest your property tax bill. Very 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:16.839 simple, very easy, but you got to do it to save money. 5 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:21.000 But until then, the man who saved Cincinnati by Peter Bronson, author of 6 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.960 Not in Our Town and Forbidden Fruit, man's name is a General Lou Wallace. 7 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:29.039 Let's go back in time. You make a reference to eighteen sixty being 8 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:33.119 similar to twenty twenty four. Oh, believable. Tell me it's amazing. 9 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:38.640 Okay. President Buchanan at the time was so close to being Biden, it's 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.920 unbelievable. He was uh huh. He was a lifelong party hack, he 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.640 had never done anything in the private sector. He finally rose to the presidency, 12 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:52.240 and he was widely despised for being so ineffectual and halfway destroying the country. 13 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:54.840 In fact, for the first two years of the Civil War, it 14 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.439 was known as Buchanan's War because because he's the one who did nothing to bring 15 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.599 the union together and put patches over these things and let it go where it 16 00:01:03.599 --> 00:01:07.439 went. So how close was Lincoln coming to winning or losing? And was 17 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.840 he on the ballot. Lincoln was not even on the ballot in ten states. 18 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.079 So we talk about you know, you hear news reports this is unprecedent. 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.280 They're trying to keep President Trump off the ballot. No, it's not 20 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:23.040 unprecedented. It happened in eighteen sixty. Lincoln was running in a four way 21 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.799 race. He won less than forty percent of the vote and won by a 22 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:32.280 plurality. So Lincoln barely snuck into the presidency in eighteen sixty. Over who 23 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.560 was he running against? He was running against three other guys. One of 24 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:41.719 them was Breckinridge, John Breckinridge, who was Buchanan's vice president. He must 25 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:45.840 have been a real incompetent. Well he was actually now he turned Breckinridge turned 26 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:51.280 into the Southern Democrats party leader from the pro slavery issue and became one of 27 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.400 the generals for the Confederate Army. So that's what was happening in this country. 28 00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.879 Okay, a few more parallels. We had. These amazing similarities were 29 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:08.759 that, for example, we had the country totally divided over immigration in eighteen 30 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:15.280 sixty. The Democrats were using it to populate and swell the northern cities where 31 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:19.719 they could gain a majority, a political cloud in the House and Senate. 32 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.759 So all the new immigrants weren't going to the South because it was agrarian and 33 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:28.560 there weren't jobs. The jobs were held by slaves, so immigration was weaponized. 34 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.759 We had an outsider Republican who got elected barely and was hated by the 35 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.319 establishment and reviled by the media. That man was Abraham Lincoln. Yet like 36 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:40.599 thirty eight percent of the vote. Yeah, kept off the ballot in ten 37 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:46.280 states, and the media hated him, they mocked him. What trump you 38 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.080 mean, Lincoln? Lincoln, These parallels are amazing. Free speech was hazardous. 39 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:55.199 In fact, there were midnight raids to arrest political enemies. Abraham Lincoln 40 00:02:55.280 --> 00:03:04.080 approved that General Burnside sent federal troops up to Dayton to arrest one of the 41 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:09.080 leading abolition or pardon me copperheads who was stirring up too much trouble. And 42 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:14.400 his name was Clement V. Landingham. And they actually broken into his house, 43 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:15.840 knocked down his door, and hauled him out in the street in his 44 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:21.520 pajamas, took him to prison, gave him no constitutional rights, no habeas 45 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:25.039 corpus, and kept him at prison until they finally couldn't got too hot because 46 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:31.120 they had obviously violated his constitutional rights, and they ended up making a deal 47 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:35.280 where they took him down to the Confederates and handed him over. So this 48 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.719 is like today with Trump being and died at ninety one counts, Trump being 49 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.080 vilified, Trump being kept off the ballot. Seminary what happened to and the 50 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.039 immigrants had to go to northern cities because that would swell the power in the 51 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:51.360 Congress, much like today the immigrants are going to blue cities to have on 52 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:54.240 the census. You have more clout because you don't have to be a citizen, 53 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:59.080 just have to be a human being. And that's why they're putting him 54 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.759 in California, ILLINOI in New York to get cloud away from Ohio, Kentucky, 55 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:09.759 Indiana. So the North had totally taken and seized monopoly on political power 56 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.840 and the South was pretty much shut out. And this alienated the South even 57 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:16.399 more because they knew that what the North was going to be doing with this 58 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:21.839 was they would come after them with what they called the abominable tariffs, and 59 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:28.040 the tariffs seized southern cotton and put tariffs on it. So high. It 60 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:32.639 couldn't be sold to Europe at fair market value in China today and the good 61 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:36.720 good analogy, and they steered it up to the eastern seaboard where the textile 62 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:42.519 industry of the North wanted southern cotton. So what's happening today has happened before. 63 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.120 I was like, this is unprecedented, you know, as an existential 64 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.560 threat. No, No. Eighteen sixty eighteen. South was a problem. 65 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:55.079 This was the Antebellum period. One more, I'll give you political attacks on 66 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.839 members of Congress. We know what happened to Steve Scalise, we know what 67 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:02.639 happened to Ran Paul Well eighteen sixties, a congressman, a senator by the 68 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:09.079 name of Charles Sumner, an abolitionist, was almost beaten to death on the 69 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.720 floor of the Senate by a Southern gentleman by the name of Preston Brooks. 70 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.720 He took a caine, didn't He beat the crap at him, caned him 71 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.519 on the floor of the Senate, on the floor of the Senate. Well, 72 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.480 if something happens today, we experienced it. It's like never happened before. 73 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.319 Is the highest, the greatest, the worst, And in reality it's 74 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.879 not that way. At all. Let's talk about Kentucky and Ohio. Yes, 75 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.480 sir, Kentucky where I was born, where I was raised a family 76 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.000 from Elsmere and Erlinger was a slave state, but it was not part of 77 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:41.199 the Confederacy. Please explain. It would not join the Confederacy and it would 78 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.879 not join the Union. Kentucky was the Switzerland of the Civil War. Abraham 79 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.399 Lincoln said, I hope that God is on our side, but we must 80 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.040 have Kentucky. And he was born in Kentucky. He was born in Kentucky. 81 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:56.199 And when he was elected president, he got less than one percent of 82 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:00.680 the vote in his own home state. Really, yes, Linking got one 83 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.279 percent of the vote in Kentucky. Yes, and Kentucky declared they would remain 84 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:10.160 neutral, which didn't last for long because both armies ended up fighting major battles 85 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:15.399 in Kentucky. But Kentucky's very curious because they sent more, if you're going 86 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.439 to look at it, which side they favored. More of the young men 87 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:21.600 in Kentucky fought for the Union than for the Confederacy. But after the war, 88 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:27.480 Kentucky had the most Confederate monuments of any state in the Union. Why 89 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.759 well, they had suddenly decided they were pro Southern and the deep with the 90 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:39.360 losers in the Deep South States really mocked Kentucky for oh, now you're on 91 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:42.639 our side. When we needed you, you weren't there. Peter Bronson, 92 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.480 you have a great photo on your book The Man who Saved Cincinnati, in 93 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.319 which the peering of the suspension Bridge. There was no bridge at that point. 94 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.279 Correct, There wasn't Brent Spence Bridge. There was nothing. There was 95 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:57.199 nothing to go across the Ohio River. And by the way I read this, 96 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.959 it was many times five feet deep and you could walk across and explain, 97 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.120 well, the river wasn't very high, but they did need a bridge, 98 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:10.360 and they had begun the work on the suspension bridge the robling just before 99 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:15.839 the war. But Cincinnati as a huge center of commerce. Let's let's take 100 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.519 a detour here for a minute to talk about how Cincinnati was super important. 101 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.040 We were the queen city of the West because we were the sixth largest city 102 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:28.079 in the country. We had we were twice the size of Chicago, four 103 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:32.000 times bigger than San Francisco, four times five times bigger than Pittsburgh, Detroit, 104 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.399 Cleveland. So this was a huge center of commerce. But when the 105 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:40.680 war came along. Everything dried up because most of that commerce was across the 106 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:45.680 Ohio River, and when we stopped doing business with Kentucky and the South, 107 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.800 things got tight. The bridge had to be The work was suspended, much 108 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:53.519 like the subway many years later, which I've been in with Charlie Luken. 109 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:58.160 He took me into the subway. Unbelievable, but nonetheless I find for those 110 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.639 who may not know this, the High River with the damning it was often 111 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.240 it was almost dry. It was muddy puddles five feet deep walk across it. 112 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.279 So the idea of building a bridge, I'd read a bridge, and 113 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:13.800 not but to invade. So the idea was in the eighteen fifties to build 114 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.160 that bridge, the so called suspension bridge. The funding dried up, but 115 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.720 the neighbor and Lincoln had to say, we got to finish that bridge. 116 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.360 We got to get Union soldiers. But explain the man who saved Cincinnati, 117 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:28.720 because Rob Sanders and Tony Bender would be shocked to learn that a major general 118 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.440 saved Cincinnati. In fact, explained the battle war. Kenton County wanted to 119 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.639 invade Hamilton County. Well, it wasn't really Kenton County. In fact, 120 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.279 the mayor of Cincinnati was a copperhead, and he wanted to surrender to the 121 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.960 South. What's a copperhead. That would be somebody who supported the South and 122 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.360 supported slavery in Ohio, the mayor supported the Confederacy. Yes, there were 123 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.600 a lot of them, and so Cincinnati had more than its share. They 124 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.480 even hit Well we'll get into that later maybe, But so the mayor of 125 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.679 Cincinnati, he had agreed with the mayors of Covington and Newport they would surrender 126 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.159 because they heard, Yeah, this army was coming up from Lexington. Nine 127 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.759 thousand battle hardened Confederates. They were angry, who had been winning battles all 128 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.759 across the South. Nine thousand and these were little guys, you said this 129 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.440 off the air. Yeah, the average Confederate you and your soldiers made five 130 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.440 to six weigh one hundred pounds one hundred and twenty, one hundred and thirty, 131 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.039 and didn't look like us, like strapping males. Not at They were 132 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.759 little guys, and many were very malnourished. They they came from hard scrabble 133 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:35.639 farms and and really tough urban areas where they were orphans. These they were 134 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.360 tough, small, they were tough. Yes, And so explain what happened. 135 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.399 So these Confederates, a general by the name of Henry Heath, who 136 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.559 is quite a guy. You'll find in the book the kind of guy you 137 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.919 would love to be love this kind of guy. Oh yes, So he 138 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.360 gets these guys, he gets his army together and he goes to his commander, 139 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.559 General Kirby Smith, and he says, I think Cincinnati is an apple 140 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:01.879 ready to fall off the tree. We got the Confederate sympathizer in the mayor's 141 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.240 position on Love Street, and we've got all these Union material for war. 142 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:11.840 We've got uniforms, wagons, horses, mules, gold, tons of gold 143 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.080 in the Cincinnati bank vaults. Go get them, Go get them. And 144 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.000 he says that apple's going to fall off the tree. And he says, 145 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.679 can I take it? And Kirby Smith says, go take it. Cincinnati's 146 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:26.000 under earth. They start marching north. Mayor Hatch and the other two mayors 147 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.919 say, we're just going to surrender. We can't take a chance that our 148 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.159 city is going to be burned. Because the threat was that Henry Heath with 149 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.600 his nine thousand men, this undefended queen city of the North has nothing to 150 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.960 defend it. No police really to speak of. No army, no nothing, 151 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.000 no National guard at the time, and it was able to be burned 152 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.519 because all the most of the buildings were would exactly. We didn't have concrete. 153 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.799 So his threat was to set up cannons on the hills in Newport and 154 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.080 Covington and threaten the city with a siege and say, look, you either 155 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:01.320 pay us, he said, a m some of what would amount to about 156 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.200 a five hundred and fifty five million today, which was about fifteen million at 157 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.559 that time. We're going to pay us not to invade. Yes, And 158 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.600 so the cannons are set up and the children, the grandfather of Rob Sanders 159 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.720 and Tony Bender, are manning the cannons and they're ready to fire in the 160 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.279 city of Cincinnati. And we got a mayor who's a sympathizer with the South. 161 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:24.679 That is exciting. Tell me what happened next. This is so they're 162 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.960 ready to surrender on a Sunday night, and lou Wallace is sent over from 163 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.879 Crawfordsville, Indiana. A general, a general, he's a hero of Shiloh. 164 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.120 There he is. I'm looking at his picture. He think eighteen sixty 165 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.559 general, right, yes, that is Look at the beard not bad. 166 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.200 Yeah, you can't have any chili for that kind of beard anyway, Please 167 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:50.679 continue. So he comes over from Crawfordsville, and in three days he had 168 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.879 shown the city how to defend itself. No bridge of this said, no 169 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.799 bridge. He and an architect in town put together a pontoon bridge by using 170 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:05.200 barges from the Licking River. They strapped them together, and they marched across 171 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.480 into the hills of northern Kentucky and they started digging rifle pits and bringing over 172 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.840 what cannons they could muster. In some cases they even made what were called 173 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:18.159 Quaker cannons out of logs that they painted black to look like cannons. And 174 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.200 they dug all these rifle pits. And meanwhile they had this huge migration of 175 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:28.240 what were called the squirrel hunters, who were backwoodsmen who came to rush to 176 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.919 the defense of Cincinnati. So this guy Wallace put together a makeshift army, 177 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.240 yes he did. Who was in the army in Cincinnati to defend us against 178 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.240 Kenton, Boone and Campbell County. It was basically squirrel hunters and a few 179 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:46.279 regiments that were supplied by Indiana and Columbus, and they cleaned out their armories. 180 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:50.000 They scraped up whatever they could to send over to Cincinnati, because they 181 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.919 knew if Henry Heath marched up and took Cincinnati, he would split the Union 182 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:58.720 in half, and the Union would probably be forced to sue for peace, 183 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.519 and America would be forever divided. What year was this, This would be 184 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:05.320 eighteen sixty two, in the fall, when things are a little you know, 185 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.879 things are a little iffy. At this point very Gettysburg and sixty three 186 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.720 hadn't happened yet. That was close, Yes, sixty two. The Confederacy 187 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.320 might have won if they took Cincinnati and split the Union, and a great 188 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.600 sixth largest city in the country, Cincinnati falls to the hands the bloodthirsty squirrel 189 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:28.320 hunters. Explain what happened, and so at this point they all they had 190 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.720 to do was take Cincinnati, and it would have opened up all of the 191 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.519 Midwest. Now they can go on up into Michigan, they can take Chicago, 192 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.679 they can basically, that's a little Miami River, great Miami River. 193 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.440 Get going. What happened in this battle with Wallace the man who saved Cincinnati. 194 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.919 So he puts together this amazing army and basically, but they're not really 195 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:52.039 trained army. None of them had seen a bullet fly. And all these 196 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.960 squirrel hunters were impressive in numbers, but they had basically muzzle loading old squirrel 197 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.159 guns that you know, you might be really good with that gun, but 198 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.679 it's nothing like when those guys can shoot the squirrel. And those nine thousand 199 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.519 were battle hardened guys. They had fought one at battle after battle. They 200 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:16.759 were the survivors. And not only that, Kirby Smith had already promised Heath 201 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.440 that he would send up reinforcements as soon as he could get to Cincinnati, 202 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.399 and cincin night didn't have I seventy one, I seventy five was walking through 203 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.600 woods, through creeks. They got what happened at the battle. They got 204 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.799 as far as Fort Mitchell. And there's a famous story, and it's documented 205 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.600 in my book, where Wallace is standing on one parapet looking through his binoculars 206 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.639 and Heath is standing on a rooftop about a mile away looking through his binoculars, 207 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.200 and they stare each other down and the battle is about to begin. 208 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.759 The skirmishes start, they start shooting at each other. Men are getting killed, 209 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:58.240 and then the South lost its nerve, a big battle was building down 210 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:03.960 in the south, in southern around Louisville, and the general there, who 211 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.360 was nervous and was not a very good general. He had kind of flaked 212 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.200 out two or three times before he said he's got to have all his troops. 213 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.120 He called Kirby Smith, sent him a dispatch and said, get Heath 214 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.919 and bring him back here. Oh thank god. Yes, So they said, 215 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.960 okay, let's go down to Louisville. Leave Cincinnati alone. Got a 216 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.759 bigger battle there. They they didn't have telegram, telegraphed, they didn't have 217 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.720 the Google. They had to send a person on a horse with a message 218 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.679 to go ninety miles, which might take a week or two to tell the 219 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:39.000 general in northern Kentucky you come south immediately, yep. And he gave up, 220 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.639 and that is what saved says. They recalled him. Now. Wallace 221 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.440 would say that Heath looked at the huge, you know, defenses that he 222 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.480 built, and that was it. He decided to because the next morning he 223 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.039 didn't have the guts. Well it's it's still in dispute. And there's a 224 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.559 great scene at the end of the book where they meet each other at the 225 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.399 Burnett House after the war and they hadn't seen other since that day when they 226 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:07.360 were staring each other down over that battlefield, and at that point Cincinnati was 227 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.559 saved and the rest is history. You got it, Peter Bronson. The 228 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.159 book is great. I'm taking it a home. My wife loves reading this 229 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:18.360 stuff as I do. Great photographs and the man who saved Cincinnati. And 230 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:22.960 thank god that a messenger got through from Louisville. Otherwise things would have been 231 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.120 different. We would have been invaded by Rob Sanders's great friend. Isn't it 232 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.639 fun to think about what it would have looked like if that had happened. 233 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:33.360 Never happened before. President has never been kept off the ballot link He got 234 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.120 thirty eight percent of the vote. Yeah, and he wins, and he 235 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.159 wins. Peter Bronson, you're the best of this stuff. Well, thank 236 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.440 you. By the way, people can get that at local bookstores and on 237 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:47.399 my website for signed copies, which is chilidog Press dot com. Chilidog press 238 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:51.159 dot com. Peter Bronson, I wish you were still running the Inquirre do 239 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:56.360 you. I never did, But anybody who claimed to run that place, 240 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.960 good luck, is not telling the truth. Peter, Thank you very much. 241 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.799 All let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News Radio, seven hundred WLW. 242 00:17:03.119 --> 00:17:06.799 Men, the new year is here, and if you're like many of us, 243 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:07.039 you're going to make a resolution.