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fighting coyotes. So yes, we're now going to talk about the Mandalorian.
So this came out today or came out yesterday. It was official news,
the Star Wars blog post whatever put out there, and those quotes from Favreau
and Feloni and Kathleen and not yeah, yeah, we're so excited to get
tod. So to break this down, they've announced that they are doing a
Mandalorian movie. It's going to be called The Mandalorian and Grogu, which is
a fantastic title, Mandalorian and Grogu. They also come from that Ahsoka.
Season two is in development, but it's pretty much happening. In an article,
I did say something about a season four mandalor it's still happening, but
we don't know how much of that was just like, oh, yeah,
it's happening, or if there's another character taking over, or if that's not
happening, who knows, but yeah, that's the plan. Apparently this is
going to be the first movie so classic Star Wars. Originally the Ray movie
was going to be first, like of the returning of Star Wars films,
but that's been pushed back for this one. So Taylor, phil I was
gonna say hot of pressed because but it's been a couple been a little bit
now, a couple of twenty four hours or so. What are your thoughts
on this as far as sounds like whatever season four an issue is gonna be,
there might be a fourth season, but the plans for the fourth season
have transferred into this. We'd heard rumors about this think sometime in the fall
of last year, where there were some murmurings like, oh, they might
do a Mandalori movie. So now it's official, and obviously with Star Wars,
take it with a grand salt because you never know. But as right
now, that's the Planet's going to be filming this year. Yes, So
my first thought, My first thought was excitement. My second thought was is
this Oh, because this, how does this compare to the Dave Filoni film?
This? That's a different film, right, because Dave Filoni were speculating
he was gonna do that Avenger style movie that's gonna kind of bridge all of
the Disney Plus shows together. That's correct, that's what the film would still
be supposedly, But it sounds like it's gonna go this Mando movie, Ahsoka
season two and then that movie because Dave is working on, uh said Soca
show. So okay, okay, that makes sense sense. Uh. As
far as like our first movie back in theaters, I feel like Mando and
Grogu is the way to go. I know. Season three was not hot
for a lot of people, including you guys, and it definitely was just
unfortunately one of those scenarios where from season one to season three it just was
going down, down, down the boom. I would say book Fed damaged
it and season three damaged it because at the end of season two, like
season two, season two like, it definitely had some some I'd like,
well, well no, that's why I just couldn't believe it couldn't get on
the It was going down, down, down. No. Season two was
the hype. I think he gets started with Boba Fett. That was the
start of something's going on. Like, I love Bubba Fet. I like
it a lot. The only the thing that just detracts it is just the
fact that it does bring down Mando. It has to go and touch upon
that storyline, that narrative and just mess around with Gorgu. Coming back that
being said, I think there's a lot of people everyone recognizes Grogu. He's
a huge icon, and I feel like just to hit the box office hard
with a Mandalorian movie is the way to go. This is I've been really
like, as much as I love those titled numbered Star Wars films, I've
really just been craving a just an anthology Star Wars movie to hit the big
screen again, and while we keep getting it baited in front of us,
like, oh, Rogue Squadron, Oh yeah, the fucking Taika movie,
and all these other films and whatnot. Kevin fi U star Wars film Squadron
was supposed to be out a couple of weeks ago, remember, Yeah,
So at the end of the day, I'm just I want this to be
true. I really really do. And I feel like the odds are really
in our favor because we have Dave Filoni put in a new position. We've
got John Favreau spearheading this project, which is great. I never gonna mention
he's directing this. So I like our odds here. This is just all
the mixings to be what I hope a billion dollar movie. And if this
can really do it well, then I feel like it's going to give the
Disney a big jump start to think, hey, let's get back on that
track now. Maybe we don't have to do well. It wasn't two was
it two films a year? Because no, no, no, we got
Solo Spring. No, it was one film a year. But that was
their initial plan that their plan was one film a year. Solo bombed and
they're like, oh no, never mind, never mind, carry on.
I don't I don't mind the the one a year. I think that's great.
But for Star Wars, I think I think it'll just exhaust people.
I really really do. I think doing a two year break in between is
fine. I think that's that'd be preferable. But this just has me super
excited and to set up that Ahsoka season two and just to have something where
it's a show and then transitions into a big screen movie. Has that happened
in the past with other projects like Star Wars are just in general, just
in general big screen it's a little bit rare, I know because I haven't
watched them, but I know there was like Firefly, I became Serenity,
they did that. I know there's lots of like freaking bad El Camino.
That's I was gonna say. There's lots of TV esque movies, like in
Netflix. Of course there's a debate of its TV movie, right, but
like there's a lot of hey, we're gonna do a movie for this show.
But for I don't know, I'd have to look it up. But
I know Firefly is Serenity. But it's not a common practice i'd say you
you probably wouldn't even get to double digits, but I'll do a look here,
looks you Zo? Yeah, what about you Kirkling? Uh? Yeah,
I think this is a fantastic idea. I definitely. I don't remember
how long ago we were speaking about these these murmurs through the west on.
The first thing I get TV shows that Turret got movies first was all old
night shows, old like, no, what the fuck continue? Damn Google,
go switch to bing. But yeah, like when we were first talking
about this idea, I just thought it was it was a really smart idea
of just for what they were able to kind of create with Grogu and Mando,
like that dynamic that everybody was just loving on like season one, man
Doo man, everyone was talking about just how adorable Grogu was, and then
season two everybody was still talking about that. And then season three was the
weird one where I feel like I really really wanted to just like keep loving
the show, but it just what it was showing me. It wasn't the
same as to what we were at. And I definitely think just the decision
that they that they made on like the big consequence moment with Grogu to just
reel that back. That really just like brings down my overall throat throats,
my overall thoughts on the show in general, of just because like I don't
know, I look back on the early adventures and just thinking about where we
end up with that big moment. It's just it totally brings down the quality
of the show. If they saved it for this movie that they're making,
Oh my gosh, hey, and like I what a moment that I don't
know what to expect really for it, but like part of me almost wants
to see like some like flashback moments of like Grogu and just to fill in
those cracks, to kind of to kind of recover like that moment to make
it a little bit more impactful or meaningful, or maybe even just Mando speaking
upon how he was feeling while missing Grogu, and like maybe they can stretch
out that time frame like a little bit longer than what was perceived in the
show. That's just some of my my overall like general, my initial thoughts.
That's what I'm looking for. I'm just kind of what I'm hoping for
the story, but for like the main story overall, I don't think it
has to be anything too crazy. I actually think this could be a very
safe film of just having like a full hour, you know, around that
two hour mark of just Grogu and Mando on an adventure and just kind of
encapsulating like some of the best moments. I'm not trying to say recreate them,
but just like just bring us back to just the peak of not even
necessarily like the Mando stories, but just the relationships between Mando and Grogu.
And uh yeah, I think this is gonna be fantastic. I'm really expecting
it to be. Possibly in like that might sound hard, like that seven
seven and a half maybe eight range on like quality wise, I don't want
to you know, write it off too early, but I want to set
my bar there so if it exceeds it, it's just man, I'm totally
back in the faith of Mando, but just for the overall, like I
guess, lifespan of Mando and Grogu. I am happy to see us leading
into a big movie because I don't know, it would be really sad if
the show just like kept coming out with seasons and the quality just not necessarily
kept going straight down, but just kind of stated that mediocre. Maybe they
have like a nice hype moment, but then it just keeps deteriorating because it's
like they had something so great there and it just just like slowly becomes that
old used toy that you just you don't use anymore, you know. So
I I I hope it. I hope it does really well. That's that's
it, And I am happy that the decisions at least coming out, Taylor,
when you're mentioning like Rogue Squadron, and it just like makes me think
back to when we had that hype panel of all these like that was when
they showed off Accolyte and everything, and it's just I feel like that was
two lifetimes ago. I feel like I feel like old vis Area's over here,
just just looking over at these old Star Wars titles, just just waiting
for them to come out. But I mean, on the plus side,
like because you're talking about that, like Disney investors call, yeah twenty or
something like that. Yeah, so the Bright only twenty twenty, But it
feels like it was like eight years ago for me. It does. I
mean, out of the projects that we got announced back then, like we
still have Accolyte, that's happening. Ahsoka has already happened, which is all
the shows are good. Yeah, the show the only show that God can
was that Republic Commandos want with Rangers on the Republic if you want to check
her out just coming to Vancouver or something, they're here so to know you're
talking about there. I got that article so before I take over and I
do my whole Simon Calvin, which I know someone said that I wanted like
a different, more current because I was, like someone said in a pause
by like, oh I like that Trassic the Simon Call group. I want
like a more like more, something more relative or more recent, because that
just feels so old and still kicking. So no, it's fun, but
someone give me something more that's more of a criterion. That is, you'll
wear to be Simon Call. I think, oh we should do that.
Yeah, no one would be We'll get Kyle back to be Randy, but
for me Bro the for me dog. Yeah, and that might be this
topic here, but s Bu's mentioned on Turage movie. Yes, I'm gonna
shout out the ones because I found the top twenty five. I'm not counting
like Mission Impossible, which was like a show and then they turned into movie.
I'm counting the ones that were a the same cast, same like same
adjacent thing, because I don't think that counts of like, well, there
was a show in the sixties now, so I'll say they did with The
X Files. That's one they did, Veronica Mars. I'm not sure if
you guys watched that show at all. Twilight Zone, which I would say
it counts, but does it because like it's always new actors, but like
still it was a show whatever, the Simpsons that happened. Uh. One
that we'll we talk about is Star Trek. That's a bit later, but
Star Trek obviously many films and just the whatnot shows Self Park did that,
Sex and the City, which did that very well. Family guys never had
a theatrical movie though Kirkland. Really they didn't help They Key Harvest come out.
No, they keep kicking it around, but it's I think they missed
their boat there, jack Ass the movie. I would count that because same
cast and crew and everything like that. There's one more, and there's a
lot of ones like el Kamine or the Dead Wooden movie, but those are
HBO, Netflix sometimes ones that just did the theatrical because that's what this is
doing. Uh. And Borat Borat did that as well, because obviously that
was when bos Burger's movie. Yeah, I don't know why they put that
out. I can't remember the box office on that. But teen Titans Go,
that's another one. Yeah they did that. Yeah. So I'm here's
the two minds and this is where because I'll have questions for these two uh
and talk about the business. Well that's what we talk about in this podcast.
But that's why I give you two minds. Personally, love the idea.
I love everything about it. The show season three, I don't care.
It was a fucking mess. It was what is it? Diminishing returns
on that show, everything about it. I think most people now, even
if you like season three and all the Mando shows, I think most people
go, yeah, the Grogu thing, that was a mistake. I think
it shown and they really did not handle well writing wise. So I think
that was a big step down. And I guess I'll say that thout her
business. So I'm more excited for not a six seven whatever. I guess
it was more like seven to eight nine episodes of Mandal. They were a
bit longer, but I think that show many times would not have much of
a clear directory where something like and or did or Mando season two? Did
you know? So I think that this is a great idea. I think
this is the perfect guy because hey, I didn't love the Lion King,
but I really like Jungle Book Chef elf Zatura or Sothora iron Man, Like
Favre is a great director and Favreau that was the big selling pitch when we
got Mando's Man. Favre's to be directing some episodes and he rarely does now
he writes a lot, but like he's still one of the better directors out
there. So I feel like, okay, this is this is the right
move. The titles whatever, I don't think they'll change it. The title
is stupid and sounds like really lame, but that gets people's butts and seats
because they know grow goos. So it's like, okay, here we go.
So I think from a what I want and I want Stars films back.
We haven't got a film since twenty nineteen. Talking about the Investor's Day,
We're coming on by time this comes up, we're coming on six seven
years since we've gone to Stars film that should have never happened. Considering four
out of the five films, we're all billion dollar earners. That's where at
the same time, I still go, hey Kevin, you should not do
War Machine movie. Hey Kevin, you shouldn't do a Young Avengers. I
still think it's a good idea. Let's not just stop everything and like,
oh, we had a couple of bombs this year, let's give up.
Where Kathleen Kenny and company like had one bomb, was like, Okay,
that's it, Let's not do films anymore. And I think as they thought
for a while that in this we're all transition to the business wise that we
do stuff on streaming and it's safe because there's numbers, but whatever, we're
pushing a streaming service yet to I think we've talked about this before, right,
And Bob Biger when he come back said a lot of dumb stuff,
but he did say that overall Disney was gonna kind of cool it on the
streaming stuff. Speak of War Machine, if that does happen, that was
a series that's turning into a movie. On the Star Wars side, this
is like a series that is turning into a movie. I think we're seeing
more and more that we will get shows, but it's not gonna be the
same amount that we did because this will be more profitable than the show because
I think it as a streaming show has tapped its audience. I don't think
they're adding anybody more that would throw down the nine ninety nine or ten bucks
a month, twelve bucks whatever it is to get Disney Plus to watch this
adventure. So that's where I think it is smarter. But now what my
question is, and this is where I can't wait from a business size,
I cannot wait to see what this does because we're gonna really get to see
what the touchstone of Disney Plus and people watching it actually is, like what
is the carbon footprint it's put there because you can see this trailer and I'm
just on with the GAF. Of course, the Star Wars fans will be
there, but that doesn't matter, as we saw with Marvel and DC,
when just the core fans come out, those movies don't make money, right.
You need our moms, our dads, people that watch something once year.
The problem is that's where I I personally am like Kurking, where I
want a nice, solid adventure, keep it simple, mandalorin Grogu two hours
go. But I think the risk here that happens is do people just look
at and go I already have three seasons that on Disney Plus. And that's
where I think it is smarter for both Star Wars and Marvel to make movies
that are one hundred million, one twenty one fifty even and keep the two
hundreds for a episode ten and Avengers like Captain Marvel should not be two fifty
plus. Mando should not be two fifty plus. But I think that's the
issue they're gonna have here, is that I think Mandalorin has to be two
hundred million because you have to do something. The two biggest things you have
to do is one, do not make it a You have to watch all
three seasons to enjoy this movie. That'll kill it right away. You don't
want to be like Ahsoca, where there's and I Likedhsoka, but how many
connections it had. You don't want that. And two, you do have
to make it feel different than just a regular episode, because I don't think
what they should do is just film three episodes of Mandalorian, make it a
movie and put it on theatrical. All the stupid thumbs up. I hate
this goddamn thing because if it just looks like the show but it's a movie,
I don't think people will pay for that. But then I also think
it's super risky for them to make a two hundred dollars a million movie and
hope that it's a big hit. So I think they're literally fucked. I
think they're in a rock between a horror like they're in between a rock and
a horror place. But that's what's exciting about it, because I'm like,
Okay, this is where you gotta I can't say you gotta make a good
movie because bad movies make money. By me, like, you have to
try to make something of quality, and I think you just have to have
you have to have something that can hook those people back, because I think
there's just a big portion of people will go, oh, I don't need
to see this. I'll catch this ONOT it's on Disney. Plus, I've
already seen these characters before, and especially when Mano season three, I would
say this is the lowest that the HEP's been for Mandalorian, So like to
get to get people now to when they could just pay they could wait till
the show's done, pay twelve bucks, sit at home, watch all the
week, and be done. Now they get them to go out, leave
their house. Maybe they got to get a sitter, and maybe they got
to pay them, and then they got to go out. They're at the
theaters for two hours, two and a half, and that's gonna be twenty
five to thirty bucks right there. Maybe if they want anything, and that's
just like a couple. If there's kids, anything, you'd be looking at
close to one hundred popcorn everything. That's the issue where we've seen tons of
movies this year where people will wait for streaming because they just don't care.
And that's my that's where I think they got to go bold with this.
But then I think if they go bold and it doesn't do well, then
it's like a solo situation where they and that was different because it was a
big budget because they switched directors and reshot stuff. But I I this is
what I says. I think this movie will make a profit, but there's
to be a difference between a profit and a hit. And that's where it's
like, let's say the movie is two hundred million, it makes four hundred
million. Okay, it made its budget back and then some of it it's
like it just broke even made a little bit of profit. But if they
do that, another thing that's fucked is that Felony movie because I think if
this movie just makes a profit and isn't a hit, Flony's never directing that
movie because why if this movie just breaks even, would they go, hey,
let's take this risk again. And that one's even bigger and but we'll
see, because I think they are starting off right with Grogu as far as
the Disney plus stuff, because that's the biggest thing since the sequel trilogy,
right, it's that character, soy it'd be like Ray Kyle and I could
even argue with bigger than Ray and Kylo. But still i'd say the top
three like Ray, k Kylo and Grogu. So it's the right thing to
do. They're doing all the right things, Fabre. It's just the question
of we're really gonna see, Okay, will people show up to this?
And I if you have, I think it's like a mix. If you
put a gun in my head, I say no. And that's where like
where do you guys think as far as like a financial like we're all on
board as far as k we like this idea, do a film, hopefully
it's all killer and no thriller, But do people actually come out to see
this after three seasons and even man who's been in Boba so like three in
a couple episodes, you know, I actually think this is going to be
a really really big movie. I would be kind of surprised if it if
it just breaks even I like you, you brought a good point of just
like it is expensive compared to what you could just be watching it at home.
But I don't know. I just feel like the way that hopefully that
the way that they market it is going to be just really shining the fact
that they're coming to the big screen, and it has been a long time
since we've seen a big screen Star Wars movie, and this one over because
yeah, what was the last theatrical Star Wars it? Sky was? It
actually strives Skywalker? Like, yeah, like that one's a part of the
main saga. But I still feel like the fact that we have Grogu in
there, it feels like it's more family oriented than those what the other movies
are. I don't know story Star Wars always is in that family category,
but this one in particular. I just feel like the grogu aspect is such
a just such a big thing. So I would be very surprised because this
doesn't make crazy amounts of money. Now, it does depend on what the
budget is. Obviously, if you have a five hundred million dollar budget and
that makes seven hundred million dollars, like that's not very impressive for the inversus,
but great, oh my god. But I don't know, like I
I don't really know what number to shoot out there, Like, is something
like one hundred and fifty million? Is that crazy for a budget like this,
because that's like the Fall Guy budget. I was looking at that one
earlier, one hundred and fifty million. When they do David Leech Bulltrained,
was that successful Bullet Training was seventy five? So that's yeah. Yeah,
come, it's tough because we're coming in a time where, like we talked
about, we just did our movie Draft Patrons. You'll begin that episode,
but it's like the year before, like we picked like Mission Impossible, Flash
like some other movies like that, and they look at Flash where it's like
that bombs. I don't think any of us, even if we didn't think
it was a billion. None of us were gonna say the Flash was gonna
bomb, you know, so that's why it gets tough. So they said
they want to scale back. So I say it's at least one hundred and
fifty, but I feel like it's gonna be two hundred. I really do
feel like it'd be two hundred. And I think that's what all the Star
Wars films of the Lucas Air film have been at least more. But I
think it'd be about two hundred. So you're looking at you gotta make at
least four hundred to be profitable. Yeah, update fall guys, actually one
hundred and twenty five million. Still, that's that's a big ass for that,
you know. Luckily, like I said, we'll check out the movie
draft. We talk about it, but man, one hundred and twenty five
But yeah, yeah, And I cause I think episodes of the show all
costs like around, Like I think it's like twenty to thirty million and stuff,
So it's gonna that's my worries, Like I, like I said,
I don't want to be if we get on the big screen and we'll watch
a two half movie and we have those fucking bad volume scenes like they can't
have that, in my opinion, the way and Or look at it to
grow Google. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful the way and Or looked.
That's how this it'd be different, Like, hey, we're gonna just put
and Or the show on the big screen, like oh, this works already.
But like and I'm not saying the volumes trash, like they do a
lot of good stuff with the volume manual. I'm just saying they I don't
want to be like, oh, Mando's just taking the same corner five times,
you know. Like that. That's my hope, is a I hope
it's being treated like a movie, not just a show. We're filming and
we're putting into a movie now. You know. It's funny too, because
like with how big grogu Amando is, if someone asked me, like a
felony or whoever asked me, would I rather have an and Or movie or
a Mando movie? I would actually say Andor movie just for the quality of
what that show was. I just think you get such a fantastic story out
of that for a big screen. But I understand they wouldn't do that.
Oh yeah, over a Mando and the other thing. I'll say because I'll
throw it to you, Taylor. And this has been the big debate because
I feel like we're not this isn't a news topic, but it's today.
Pedro the Barbarian director's next project. He was starring in that. He dropped
out of that, and then I guess they're filming F four and Q three
now. So Riggie was supposed to be filming Fantastic four in March, but
now it's quarter three, so I think that movie might be getting pushed out
of twenty twenty five. So we'll probably return back to that at another time.
But that's another interesting debate, is like, oh, this is easy
because you have your main star and he can just do the voice. I'm
on the complete other side where you gotta have Pedro front and center in this
movie. I think you have to do something where in the movie the show,
I guess it's a movie. In the movie, somehow he loses that
helme. Maybe he doesn't take it off, but let's say it just gets
destroyed and it's Pedro like to me, to get this to a level to
be a hit, I think you do need Pedro's face on the poster around
in trailers. I don't think you can get away with oh, it's just
his voice, like, because like what you got Carl Weathers and I don't
think you'll have like a soak And like the Mandal cast is not big stars.
I know somebody say, oh, it's grogu and I know people go,
oh, Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, doesn't matter. Mark Hamill,
Carry Fisher and Harrison Ford all came back for those things, so that doesn't
even count when people say, oh, well those were new actors. No,
all the ogs came back and Rogue one just happened to be. Hey,
Star Wars is the fucking shit again. So it's just like, I
personally feel like they need Pedro. I'm not saying it has to have the
helmet off the whole movie master Chief style, but I think there has to
be an act and I'd say, made the third act with that helmet's off
and you got Pedro. Can you imagine if the answer to that is just
they do the Iron Man thing. He keeps He's in the helmet the entire
movie, but it just keeps going to the inside like talking, Yeah,
there you go. Even that, I think you like, like, where
are you kirkl And then we'll go to tear on the thoughts of that,
like where do you think page do you think they can get away with?
Oh, just his voice, because he's a busy guy. He's glad here,
he's gonna do F four. He's so busy you just had to drop
out of a movie, Like that's where it's coming up now, Like this
could be a reason though, right, like the news count in the movie,
and then now it's oh, he's also dropped out, so that could
be it of oh, he's doing Mandalorian movie and he did say sorry my
last point. It didn't mean to cut you off. But for season three
he wasn't on set once unlike season one and two. He just did the
voice. So this could be a way to get him back if his schedule's
starting to clear up and he's dropping other projects. It's it's kind of tricky
because my heart obviously want to see Pedro on their front and center, helmet
off, just just leading the show with Grogu. But at the other end
of the spectrum, like I feel like unless it's a really key part of
the plot on like why he's taking his helmet off. They made such a
big moment about that in the show already, So if if they just if
he just pops off his helmet master cheek style and he's just he's just rocking
helmetless for the whole Like again, that just kind of brings down the earlier
report destroy it, you destroy it, he loses in the Yeah, I
think that's a smart way because like choice, you know, yeah, but
like okay, it would have to be a really big epic moment to really
sell me on it. But it's tricky because because it's it's what I want,
but it's like you gotta still convince me on that. You still got
to sell me on that. So it's kind of a tricky situation because of
just the way that they've kind of went with the story already. But yeah,
it's I want it. Just just make it, make it make sense?
Please? So Taylor, where are you the paedro of it all?
And then where are you also on what is the like what do you think
the success factor could be in this all said and done? Because obviously stars
people will be there, but it's more about you know, is that Disney
plus person that sits at home watch these are they gonna go out and actually
you know, spend a bunch more money in their free time to watch this.
So I mentioned this a long time ago, but uh, there was
when I was taking my car into the mechanic shop. There's this old guy
in his like sixties or seventies, and he saw my Mandalorian keychain. He's
like, oh, I'm Mandalorian. So such a good show, and like,
I got Disney Plus so I could watch that show. It's great.
I love that show. He just started talking about it. I thought,
Okay, so this clearly means that not just like he did not strike me
as like an in depth Star Wars fan because he wasn't using terms that you
probably like click with, Like, Okay, this guy like fucking loves Star
Wars. He seems like a GA, but he loves Mandalorian. So I
feel like this already has a very resounding h impact presence. Yeah on on
the GA. But does that gentleman all, does he want to go to
the theater and see it or can he not just wait until comes on Disney
Plus. A couple months later, he said he got Disney he got Disney
Plus renewed so he could watch like the next season. No, but I
mean, like when this movie comes out do you think that's that tells me,
like, if he's renewing his Disney Plus to watch this another season,
then it tells me he's gonna be paying to go to the theater to watch
this movie. So I would say that's a similar kind of exchange. Now
when I'm looking at how much they need to spend for a budget, that's
yeah, that's definitely a lot per episode that you mentioned, And I hope
that they don't go as much as they were spending for like the sequel trilogy,
because that was like three hundred to four hundred million budget. I don't
think they're getting the four hundred million. Okay, maybe it was box office
earnings or something like that. Yeah, And that's where and that's where those
shows were expensive. And that's why even if you were to take the same
budget as a show down and throw them in theatrical, they'd make more money
than PLUS because I think like PLUS has capped out of what like. I'm
sure it grows and lessons, but I don't think Plus is ever getting a
big boom until they get another big S and I don't think that's happening with
the quality of MC and Star Wars shows, right, now so Rise of
Skywalker budget of fourner and sixteen million. Their most expensive film ever made last
Ji three hundred million, Force Awakens three hundred and six million, So yeah,
that's it has a lot of money. Mandalori ain't make it enough to
get that back, no, so they they need to start off small.
I think that one hundred and fifty million is probably like the safe route,
and just that way you can two hundred for sure, two hundred just you're
right for sixteen What that's fray happening in Luca's film over there? It does
look good. It's a laundry scheme, it's a money laundry scheme. It's
a good looking movie. So I think that they do need to just make
sure that the film, like you said, doesn't have any obvious volumes or
whatnot. CGI has really really it's gotten worse, much much worse these past
few years. There's like they're cutting corners, they're doing something, and maybe
that is because they're pushing their fex teams like I think tomorrow and like it's
just it's that's horrible, and I hope that's that's not that's not the case
anymore. I hope that's not the case of Star Wars anymore, because there's
no room for that. Get that shit out of here, take time and
put out good quality shit. So now if we're looking, yeah, not
hopefully he's done for if they see Ji Patron's face, they won't do that.
I think they could get him. They could get them for that like
a couple of days or something. So I don't think they do that.
But yes, that would not be a good look if they did it.
But I think we're safe. So season one end two both had the helmet
come off for a bit, and I think that they could easily work in
some some way that I mean, do other people need to see him with
his helmet off, Not necessarily, but it doesn't mean that we can't.
So there could be a scene where he's alone or he's caught like if he's
facing like if he's facing he's slipping the bath to tank, if he's facing
off against droids or something, that's a pass. He can take his helmet
off and we don't have to revisit that story. And then leading into the
story part of this, I think that it's very very very great. If
the season three did one thing great is that it ended on just hey,
he's got his own house, his own place to just chill, and he's
got Grogu with him, and that is the perfect place just to kick off
a movie with because you can introduce some new imposing force. You don't have
to worry about Gideon. That storyline's done. You don't get through the Empire.
Yeah, No, Thron you can create a whole new narrative and you
don't have to touch upon and be like, hey, you need to go
watch the three seasons of this show and boet unless you want to see Grogu.
Maybe you can see that. But I think most of the gas gonna
be like, oh, here's a guy that looks like Django feed or Boba
Fett and here's a little Yoda. Okay, let's see what this is about.
It's very random at its core, and people can just latch onto that.
I'll take it back. You could do Throng. You just got to
do Thrown in a way where you kind of reintroduce him. Don't make it
like he's the thrown from a soap, like he had the same characteristics,
same character But I mean, like, don't have any lingering plots of like,
oh, when I battled with Ahsoka, Like, don't do that make
it like some sort of man and takes a contractor does a job and it's
opposing with Thrawn Like that's what I'd say. Don't have it to be too
connected to the show the Folony one. Sure of course that's supposed to be
the Avengers of Disney, plus you have to have that connected. But I
think this will be the test. Do you both agree that if this one
doesn't do well though, that the Flony movie's dead? I think it might
either die or transition to like yeah or something back to formula. Yeah,
it's dead. It's yeah dead because like we'll talk about it after there's a
mini topic we have about the other the Game of Throne directors and they talk
about the Stars movie they're making, and you know it's something similar. So
when do you guys think, because we just did this movie previous supposed to
film this year, I will hit you with it. If you need to
look at it, you can go to the first showing. But I was
gonna ask you, is this a twenty twenty five movie. I'll give you
the quick rundown. This in the movie previ but next year in January we
or sorry in twenty twenty five. In January, uh, not much there.
I don't think it's coming January. But in February you got a Captain
America movie, so probably not because that's a Disney movie. March you have
Snow White. April you get Fast X and Minecraft and the Exors. This
movie may get Fantastic four. Well I think I figured it out. It's
NEVERMINDU, Mission Possible Deadrecting Part two, Dirty Dancing in June, How to
Train Dragon Live Action, Black Phone two, and then Avatars in December.
You got The Batman in October Funnerable, so like what I'm trying to say,
Superman Legacy in July. Lots of big dates. But I was gonna
say, I guess let's have some fun because I imagine with Fantastic four being
delayed, that's probably the date because it's May second, so I guarantee they
might just have it May second, couple days before May fourth. But let's
say that didn't happen. Do you think this could come out in like such
a packed year, like even December, which is the or even that question
too. Let's say they go, no, we don't want to do May
because we did the only movie that didn't come out of May was Solo,
and that's the only then do well, So maybe there's and I do think
there is a I think people do enjoy the Star Wars Christmas sort of vibe.
I think people do like that. So do you guys think that they
would roll the dice again and pick a different date or would they wait until
like twenty twenty six because there's no way they're releasing next December because that's Avatar.
They're not gonna. Avatar is the big dog now. So no,
that's and that goes hand and hatt with what their original scheduling was, or
was vice versas Star Wars There Avatar next, and Avatar was supposed to be
this year, but I got delayed, so that's why. So that's so,
do you guys think that they would hold up for December or do you
think they'll try a different month next year, like or even like May?
Yeah? I like that May one. It just you know, made the
force makes sense. So Solo bad vibes. Though Solo came out on May.
Oh yeah, I like I would have said twenty twenty five if it
weren't for all the name, like the numbers or sorry the movies you're already
listing off there. Uh, it's a stuffed up year and that that's the
other where I have for luckily it's Star Wars and had a movie and well,
but we've seen it happen before. All those movies when they came after
COVID, we saw some do really well and some just fucking eat it because
there was just too much, you know. So I would have said December
if not for the big James Cameron beast in the way. Yeah. So
I think May has a more optimal opportunity here over the Solo situation because you're
dealing with Star Wars fatigue. I feel like people would have seen Last Jedi
six months later still probably not hyped on it, and especially now you have
a movie that's based on like a younger Solo, not Harrison Ford. So
it's probably yes, people that had a sour taste two, they're are going
to have even more of a sour taste from this. And so I feel
like it's just is very controversial. But this being something that people like we
haven't had a movie prior six months, I think that this has a much
more standing opportunity. And like even then Q three July to September. So
let's say let's say even if they let's say film July Fantastic four, they
film and get all done, which they shouldn't be. They get all done,
So what's that August, September, October, nov December, January,
Februy, March, April. May. It's ten months, but like,
that's a lot to film. And I'm saying that's them filming in in one
month. But they film in one month, they get trailers like whatever Marvel's
talking about as far as the delays and everything and how they want to take
their time. To me, them trying to push a movie out in ten
months is not ideal. That's not what they should be doing. So next
year, remember we talked about how it's like, oh, you have cap
F four, Thunderbolts and Blade. I think that's the easy spot where Blade
right now is in November. You just push Blade to the next year.
F four comes out November, you fixed already. That means you only got
three Marvel movies and then May is open for a Disney movie. So I
feel like May is the way, you know, not to try to rhyme
with it. But it's just a question of I don't know they got I
guess it just it just has to work. And I guess like what happens
before May snow White Cap and fast decks, so and then after that,
that's when you're getting all a lot of big wins. So it might even
better for them to the go as early as possible and they kind of get
to kick off that summer season and Mandal's been in December and spring. So
yeah, that's what I'll say, is May, because we didn't have that
Pedro news earlier. So it was a much more intriguing question when we didn't
have that, because it looks like that salt will open up. But we'll
see, maybe they break the soul curse, you know, hopefully someone's got
to do it. Yeah, was your Taylor before taking that, Actually,
let's get out break. I'll be right back and we're back, mister Field.
So I was I mentioned this in the discord Go join our Discord Keepers
discord, But I was playing with the idea of what would be kind of
revealed at Star Wars celebration because they're skipping this year and they're coming back in
Japan twenty twenty five. Did find out today that that tickets went on sale
for D twenty three, so that is happening the summer. Oh okay,
so that can kind of maybe be a kind of a layway to that.
I don't think they'll be like a teaser. They didn't say when they're filming
this year, but there could be something this year for Mandal movie, like
if they got a date that soon, I imagine. If not, then
it's I just don't. I don't see them filming a movie this year and
waiting till twenty twenty six to release it. In my opinion, Yeah,
I don't, I don't. I agree. I feel like D twenty three
it would be a great place to drop like a Skeleton Crew trailer and the
Accolyte trailer officially, Yeph and yeah, give us something like at least bring
like all the casts out on stage for the Mando movie or something. I
should there's gonna be characters for the first time ever. Just I don't,
I don't. I hope they don't just use every single cast member. There
should be new characters with new actors as well. You know, absolutely,
I think in Shod twenty twenty five star celebration, that's when you probably get
that full trailer for Mando, and then you said lates when they bring the
cast out for the Ray movie with something like but when is when is that
celebration in twenty twenty five April. Yeah, I guess you could get there'd
probably be another trailer or like the final trailer or something like that, if
our theories it's releasing in May. But yeah, I could see the ray
movie if it happens. But already it's like, well, let's transition to
the next Mini Stars topic is we had some comments from the directors, but
already in this article, that's where people are worrying because you have just months
ago they're like, yeah, the ray movies first, and now already they're
like, well, we're gonna push the ray movie back and we're gonna do
this first. And I still think it's happening. But it's just like we've
had this happen so many times. We're like, oh, yeah, I
just gotta go film four four and then I'll be doing Star Wars. And
what's Taka doing. He's not doing Star Wars. He's working on movie Jenner
Taga, you know. And that's where so today these comments came out from
Benny often Wise the guys that were the Game Thrown directors and they were working
on a Star Wars movie and they were told like or they were working on
a movie about the first Jedi. The first lights sayver how the councils started.
They said, lucasfilm was really excited and then all of a sudden they
weren't excited for the idea and they were gonna call it first Jedi. They
joked that, they said they're Matt Ryan Jonnasson for using the last Jedi.
So they said they had their pitch and what they agreed to do was a
movie, but the First Jedi lucsfilm liked it and then didn't want to do
it. So other people taking that as like, oh man, that means
Mangold's film is in danger. Where are you Taylor with the Dawn of the
Jedi? We got that, I don't know, probably six months ago,
that announcement, after these comments, after what happened with ND five, What
is your percentage on that movie still happening? Well, yeah, I'm I'm
I find it kind of confusing. Why, Like, yeah, the Game
of Thrones, guys, they have this movie that's on the table and that
gets scrapped with them, but then all of a sudden, James Mangold comes
out and this is the director of the same concept. So lucasfilm, like
you, I don't think it's I don't think it's a pro So that's where
I disagree. So I like, I guess Kirkham can go last. I
didn't want to go next, but uh, I don't think it's happening,
just because that's why Stars is and I think that has more with Indy five.
I think the whole problem with those Game of Thrones guys is not that
it was the concept, it was it was them. And I think that's
the problem with Disney is that Game of Thrones finale came out and the majority
of the world did not like it, and they went, let's not go
with these guys fair and that's why I think. So that's why when people
like, oh, this means Mangled's movies fucked, because they already changed their
mind once. I don't think it's that. I just think that they weren't
confident. Now that's the same thing I would hope, and I still liked
Indy five, Like, if you've to me, it's like Indy five underperformed
But to me, if you look at Indy five and go oh, this
guys shouldn't be directing a Star Wars movie. It's like, there's so much
worse films out there people have made that doesn't scare them away. I just
don't think it's gonna happen, just because there's just a few things. And
after Indy did kind of underperformed Kat like look at Wonder Woman, right,
Patty's drinking doing Star Wars movie. One of Room two comes out, disappoints.
Oh that's pulled away. Game of Thrones, all that's pulled away.
Last Jedi comes out. Oh, Ryan Johnson's Trilogy's gone four or four comes
out lot, some people don't like it. Oh, worst Tykas movie.
Like it's always followed by this. People have to make like a perfect fucking
movie, Like they always hide them off a perfect movie and then they put
on another movie like, Oh, I don't know. So I think I
still think Disney has interest in telling the first Jedi story. I don't have
interest in it, but I think they would for marketing wise. I think
that there's still so much potential to do like the First Jedi kind of story.
I think it could be so different and unique and uh yeah, I
mean, don't make it danger it's also budget. Yeah, I just I
just think the reward is not worth the risk. I think there's also lots
of midichlorian s dangerous type where it's like people are like, oh, you
really fucked, Like I think that movie could actually really hurt the brand if
they fuck up the the rigits of the Jedi SE's I'd always leave it in
people's minds, never touch it if I have. My Jedi's name was Skywalker,
right though we were I don't care what anyone says, fuck Soulo of
the movie. Yes, it is the fact that he got his name.
When I'm alone, Oh haan so walks amongst the sky. Yeah, Like,
if they do ship like that, I do think they have a chance
of like really hurting the brand of people being like I'm done with Star Wars
the same way we're talking about Marvel, where there's a lot of people being
like, hey, if they don't figure it out, I'm done with Marvel
going for it. Like, I think the first Jedi movie is very dangerous.
To be fair, though, I feel like people have been saying that
for like since the fucking like Reqoel series, the new series or yeah,
Jedi and that's what we're gonna be still watching it. Yeah they're watching,
but numbers are starting to go down, right, Like all these shows are
lower. You know, same thing with Marvel, all the stuff is lower.
It's definitely dangerous. I can't disagree with that because it's just it's so
untapped. But I, if I have my pick, I feel like the
clear choice is just to don't have to go that far, but just go
into the higher public like we are. But it's taken so long to get
there. And even then they're like, oh, let's go, let's go
higher public, but no, let's let's go not too far right before yeah,
right before Medas, Like come on, you guys, Like, I'm
happy to go around the prequel time a little bit more because that's that's fun,
but like, get us, get us further back, because there's a
rich amount of stuff that you can focus on, Like you said, you
said before Trevis. When you do a prequel, you know what's going to
happen with these characters, like in Rogue one, that's totally fair. But
if you go back a few hundred years, you don't know what's going on.
That's why when we read the review of those higher public novels, there's
so much going on Marsha and Rowe whatnot. It's like, oh, what's
going to happen with these characters, like and unexpected deaths and whatnot. So
that's what they should be focusing the you know, the films on either there.
There has been rumblings that you're a boy apparently fil on a new creative
the creative whatever chief officer whatever his name is. The there's rumors going around
that he is not a fan of the Old Republic era. So that's why
we've like the High Republic that's been created or just the Old Republic with like,
oh, that's been the word going around that he is not a fan
of that content. So that's why I think we've had sot out of the
I yeah, he doesn't deserve to be leading the church. There's good ship
in there. That's a shame. Yeah, I think as it's not George
shit though, that's why. But he signed he would have signed off on
all those things, right, all the game kind of but he probably had
no fucking games, just cracked up yellow lightstammers. You know, you can
put that in there got I a check at check, Okay, give me
a check. I don't know. There was zero to that and you can
get yeah. I I really wish they were able to just adapt more like
books or something to the live screen as opposed to just telling a brand new
story. They never do that, at least try it. Majority of the
people that like Star Wars don't read these books. They have no idea the
fucking books, even if it's a book, you know, yeah, where
are you Kirk? Where are you now? On the Dawn of the Jedi
because said this created the whole debate again because they said, hey, that
was our pitch and they don't want to do it to be like why now?
And then off, see there's there's there's stuff moving around right Like I
said, the ray movie was supposed to be first, been like, oh
well, not gonna be first anymore. So it's that classic Star Wars where
there was a there was a roadmap, but now things are shifting again and
people are getting concerned around classic Star Wars. I sometimes hope is all we
have in the galaxy, you know, And I feel like that's where I'm
at right now. It's it's definitely lower percentage chance of happening that I may
maybe would have had before. I don't know before you at would have asked
me months ago. But I want to say it's like fifty five percent chance
still happening, very low, you know, like I don't like those odds,
but still over the fifty percent mark. A lot of that probably has
to do with just my want to pick. I do really want to see
this story, even if it is atrocious. Luckily, I feel like I'm
very good at selective cannon, and I can just pix what stories I want
and what is sleep happy? Yeah, exactly like in my mind, you
know, Darth Bay and he's still kicking around. Not the not the not
the Rebels version of what the hell they had, but the like the Old
Republic stories. I'm a huge fan of those, and I you know,
as long as they're in my head, they're not dead. They're they're what
canon I I I want to make it so but for probability in your mind
and take them out one day, just like we all wake up we've forgotten
the Old Republic. We all have like marks on us for some reason,
like needle marks. All of our like our hard hates are just like completely
flipped. Especially around Disney, they just totally what I own a cowboy hat.
Now, this is awesome. We're all just rock and no explanation.
I don't know why, just I ordered one and I just wanted to put
it on you. Oh my gosh. Yeah, but yeah, I know,
I because you bring up great points on why they they would get rid
of it. I think if I didn't have my my heart picking there,
it definitely would be the below fifty percent. But I don't know. Like
I said, sometimes great power and just hoping, I really hope that they
don't permanently bench that Ray movie. I feel like that is a fantastic it's
it's a fantastic idea, and I think that that character deserves that very very
much. So. I think I think Daisy Ridley and everyone off though,
you know, with their comments about Star Wars and being female and everything.
Yeah, I just think that just to do is dumb. It's like a
couple a couple of people's outrage. A little bit in the future after the
sequel trilogy all that stuff, just Ray new Jedi Order, bring in a
new threat that's just got tap potential all over it. I want to I
know, as a fan, I want to see tons of Jedi on screen
on the big screen. So chuck you look out, uh, folone,
it's gonna come get you. The Jack Black and Lizzo episode, shit,
yeah, he's gonna come. Gonna wake up the next morning about time.
That's how we know who's been hit by the inception. Cowboy. Yeah,
Cowboy had and Lizzo shirt that it's going to be the combo. And then,
just to tign this news quickly, there's a rumor going around that the
Tales of the Jedi show is not going to be just Tales of Jedi anymore.
Sounds like they might be spinning off and doing Tales of the Ballet Hunter
and Tales of the Sith Kirk compaths are. I can't remember, did you
ever get around to watching Tales of Jedi, because I know you're I thought
it. I thought I reviewed it with you guys. I thought he didn't
make it for some reason, maybe not, I don't know. I took
that out of my mind. I watched it. I like it. I
like what they're doing with that show. So what about the concepts tales of
It's I do love that idea because it's just like more content more stories that
they're telling. But I also don't want to like take away from what they
were doing with Tales of Jedi, because I I think that show is just
fantastic and I love what they are doing. I don't want them to change
up that formula or anything, but I think, I mean, these are
selling in addition to not replacing. That's what the rumor is. You go,
okay, yeah, show, no fuck, yeah, man, I'll
buy a cowboy hat. I'll buy a cowboy hat. I get that this
week. Yeah, I'll be on that review with my Cowboy hat felony style.
So that's amazing. I love that there's so many like bounty Hunters.
You know, maybe I think a little bit lesser of them because of the
Boba fet show. They're not as badass as I once thought they were as
a young lad. But I mean just interacting with bounty Hunters throughout the games,
like Kotor like they like they're totally menacing, just like dealing with them.
So I that would be sweet to see as well as obviously more Cis
stories. That's something that's just been a massive drought in the entire lifespan of
of Star Wars. So even though they're like the main threat of the Jedi.
It's just I don't know, I want to see more focused stories on
them. You could get your bane like I said, yeah, public though
you know Flon is not a fan, so no, that's so I'm like
saying them all for that's great. Tails Jedi was fantastic for the most part,
especially the Duke who stuff, even though it's like the Tuku feels like
that should be in the Tales of the Sith story now, you know,
because it's like totally so it's just like maybe that was their inspiration of like,
oh, we should do more of this. All I ask is,
don't have every season to focus on a character we really like or like already
know. I don't need Tales Aboundy Hunter to have three episodes of Boba Fette
like they did Ah Soka, and I don't need Sith is different. But
here's the thing. I'm fine with Vader because I think they should tappen.
Like we're talking about books. I think they should tapp in those comics.
Give me some of those stories where he's hunting down those jedis absolutely what I
don't need, though, and when I know Floni will do He'll do one
episode that's a Clone Wars episode where it's him and Obi Wan and Obi Wan's
like, maybe something's wrong with my apprentice. Ah, never mind, I'm
just gonna continue on, Like I don't. I don't want them to re
go over things that Fuloni and company have already done. The Ahsoka stuff was
fine, but when we got some of those episodes, I know you here,
but I think a lot of us were like, hey, we've gone
so much Clone Wars, like, let's get something else. Let's get new
characters, new stories. So Sith, I think for me, and this
is the same thing when you gotta it's all about the selection because I think
Darth Maul clone Wars there absolutely not. But I think Darth maulon where the
from Dapamir like ship like that young Darth Maul like an episode ending with Papa
Tine recruiting him. It's like fuck yeah, you know. And same thing
with Django. I mean, I'm not I'm opposed to Boba Jangle. I'm
not Django is what I would actually like because Boba I've had enough of.
But Django, I think there's still lots of untapped potential with him. I
saw his Ventris you know stuff like that. Uh, there's wait, I
can't remember. It's the sage. Is she the bounty hunter? She the
Yeah, so she could be in both What is the other one that got
killed off? Scream and Han Solo? Oh or yeah? Or saying she's
great, like happened to those characters. I get that they gotta have one
big one, so it's fine, but if you do one big one,
just make it stories that we haven't seen before. But this is great.
This doesn't move the needle for the fandom. But I think like this is
probably the stuff they should probably start doing more on Disney plus for Marvel and
DC or Disney or sorry, Star Wars because not DC, because if they
feel like these streaming shows live actions might be too much not making a return,
I think these shows satisfy that hardcore audience. And uh but yeah,
Tayl your thoughts, I mean, yeah, just like looking at this lineup,
Yeah, we got dan gardan Gar, I hope we So just for
the we've talked about the memes of since Geek Versu has begun, den Gar,
you know what, I'll take it, den Gar episode, Why does
he look like that? Give me a fucking episode. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, Boss for absolutely Boss. Yeah, be sweet. I can't remember
these two dudes, but yeah, they're there. We'll definitely get a young
Bubba fed episode two. I think of him as a kid. I don't
really need it because they did a lot of that in the Clone Wars.
So that was a Soka, right, there's precedents for it there. Yeah,
I guess so I yea, you know there'll be one, because what
do we get for Jedi? It was Douku Ahsoka and am I forgetting another
one there? Qui gin right, two Douku or no, there were three
Douku ones, right, because there is Mace win new and Douku on a
mission, then there's Qui gon Jin and Douku on a mission, then there's
Duku turning on Yattle, and then there was like three Ahsoka ones, right,
Okay, so it's just those two. Yeah. I really don't want
a known character covering the same stuff again. But yeah, but I'm there
for like the bound or stuff. That would be probably like the there's some
cool things, but that would be at the bottom of my excitement, like
tailor the Jedi continuing. That would be number two, and then number one
would be Tales of the Sith. I think that there's some juicy stuff there
that I really want to explore, and like rebels kind of dip their toes
into that stuff a little bit by going to some Sith planets. Get us
exicle. Yeah, even that, Like, imagine it'd be cool. Imagine
if three episodes about the planet, not even a character, just like that
planet in different eras of Star Wars, what was going on in the comic
book so and in the book too, like Vader was right, Vader and
Palatine, we're on exically yet, that would be such a cool thing to
see. Absolutely. Yeah, great book shouts the Sith. So that's that's
got peak excitement for me. Yeah, so hopefully this is true. So
we'll see. So we'll take our last break and then we're gonna do just
a quick fire segment of some other news. We'll be right back and we're
back. So, yeah, this is gonna be one saying. So I'm
gonna hit you guys with uh five topics and you're gonna talk about them all.
But they're all many topics, so uh you got Mickey seventeen has been
delayed and definitely we talked about our movie draft, God's old movie update.
We can actually just take that out because there's really nothing to say. Check
out the movie Draft. We talked about it. Uh, last of Us
cast Caitlin Deaver as Abby. She was then no one will survive or save
you whatever it will be. So she is the you know, a rival
of Elliott's gonna be in the season, and she was somebody that was originally
when they're making the movie talked about for being rally but years later didn't happen.
Not twenty eight years there, but fine enough. I think on just
an after nine or something, we were just talking about this now today that
they're making a twenty eight years there because you're like, oh, it's gonna
be months, Like no, they gotta do the years and it's gonna be
twenty eight years later. Danny Boyle's come back to direct's original director Alex Garland
is writing the script. So he did ex Macna Men Annihilation, so big
team there. They've said this could be the start of a trilogy, which
I don't know why they need to say that, but that's what they said.
Star Trek has a new movie being worked on. It's from one of
the directors of and Or so that's supposed to be coming out. It's going
to be a prequel to the two thousand and nine Star Trek. And then
finally, there has been a Supergirl short list. I'm not sure if you
guys know the two other actresses, but one of those Millie al Cock,
so she's the girl that was Raniera from Game of Thrown Our House of Raagan.
The other one is Meg Donnelly. I don't think you know her.
She's currently voicing uh, Supergirl in the animated universe. And then I'm not
sure, did you guys ever see Coda? No very great movie, thee
with Benedict right or no, oh no, the one with the dog whatever,
it's your whatever the fuck? It's called Power of the Dog. Yeah,
yeah, Coda was about it was an Oscar movie, right, yeah
it was. I think it's the whole family's death except for one daughter.
So it's like her struggles. Do you like that one? Best picture?
She the main actress of that is and you know you could pull the names.
Maybe it's the thing, so maybe that one will be more of me
talking, but uh, kirkainpatser go, what do you want me to start?
Star Trek Star Trek prequel to two is a nine movies absolutely no,
oh prettyquel? Yeah, okay, minimal interests. I went from zero interest
to minimal okay, next one. Okay, you guys, no, no,
no, you guys can answer this because I was talking about those with
Chris and Superman. Mike's at the same thing. I believe that in its
current state, there's not interest for Star Trek movies anymore. I think that
is just a TV franchise now. Joe from GA also said, well,
couldn't you make that case for Star Wars. You could, because it's just
been TV for years. But the difference is Star Wars all billion dollar films
except for one. Those last three Star Trek movies you have to put together
to just get over a billion. It's like three hundred four fifty and then
three hundred the last one dip. So it's like, I'm in the perspective
of I don't think there's a big need for Star Trek the movies. I
don't think there's the GA really cares about it that much anymore. I think
maybe one day again, but I don't think, especially to me. It
being a prequel to the two thousand and nine one I think even less,
so we'll get people excited. So maybe we're gonna quick fire these together.
So that's my thing. Like, do you think people are wanting a Star
Trek movie, because I don't. I really don't. Actually, I think
yes. I think like general audience, it is very dependent on the casting
of it. Though, Like I think Chris my God Pine, Thank you
Chris Pine was a major like boost for that, just like he's he's such
a fantastic star, so to have him leading the charge, I think that
really held the just the overall health of those movies, like numbers wise,
Yeah, I know exactly, so it does depend on who the cast is.
But I I still think there is some interest. I because like there's
major Star Trek fans that are loving the show, so obviously those those people
would love to see some more Star Trek fan movies. And the general audience,
it's a it's a big enough name that you know they'll hear it,
and as long as it has a good trailer, maybe a good cast,
they'll I think there'll be some interest for it because the other ones did really
good numbers wise, and again, like it is to do with the cast.
What do you mean, no, three, like three fifty four fifty
three fifty, that's like, like I think it's like solid, but not
like that bad. That was my If that was my movie draft, I'd
be so happy with those numbers. But like in twenty sixteen where that was
like in the billion billion dollar movie now inflation in the Billionaire like in the
billion dollar movie error, When in twenty sixteen they're making like three fifty,
it's like, I just I guess for me, I guess it's the budget
dependent. So if you can do that way, but it's like space,
I just it would have a big budget for sure. Yeah, And I
just don't know. It's like, yeah, there's diehard fans, there's diehard
Marvel mission possible in the indie d C. It's like, I guess it's
just now when we're in a state of not everything's a guaranteed hit anymore,
you know. That's That's where I'm like, is this where you want to
spend the money? And I don't know. Yeah, I'm not super confident
with that thought. It's just my overall if you're if you're probe in me,
I would I would suggest that, yes, there's some interest out there.
I'm also not a fan of the writer. I'll bring up the director
Vandor if that's great. You know, clearly you know most I think not
most, but I think there's lots of people that are Star Trek and Star
Wars fans. I like Star Treking enough, but I'm definitely just a Star
Wars fan, and I do think that has a bit to do with it.
I think when Star Wars came back, some people that like myself,
checked out those Star Trek fels were like, Eh, star Wars' back,
So I'll check out that, but like the writer not. He wrote the
Lego Batman movie, so that's like his best credit. But before that,
Dark Shadows, Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter, Pride Prejudice, and Zombies just
beyond genre. Oh god, he wrote he wrote Beeal Jews too. Yeah,
I'm not a fan of his stuff other than Lego Batman, but Taylor
Star Trek. I am certainly excited for this. Of being a prequel,
that definitely negates like a fraction, but I'm still very excited. I really
love those three trilogy films. Did you see that last one in the theaters?
Yeah? I did. I think I've seen I saw all of them.
Except for the first one that came out of this trilogy, but Into
Darkness is my favorite of the three of them. Really really loved it,
and I yeah, I just for me, it was the cast, the
whole roster that they had. I've just fell in love with them. I
loved they portray these characters and I really just really got into it. And
again, the score, everything about those films was fantastic. I'm really happy
that this is going to be in that universe, But the downside is the
cast that's changing up, and so that was a huge hook for me to
save on that budget. We're talking about budget and those people. So I'm
gonna be there. I'm gonna see it in theaters for sure, and I'm
curious to see what they're gonna do. But for me, if I had
to pick, I would have preferred keep the cast and do a Star Trek
number four. Yeah, So I think that there is no Yeah, I
think I think it's dead too. I think there's definitely still a market to
tap into for Star Trek to be in theaters. I really really do.
Uh Yeah, I think maybe just the main like fans for the most part,
probably like, oh, I don't maybe they weren't driving with this trilogy
that was going on, and maybe they just they want something new and fresh.
I think that's what the TV shows have offered because you have like lower
decks, which is like I think, like more of a comedy styled animated
series for Star Trek, and you have a whole bunch of different like projects
like the Card. Yeah, so there's a different pla thorow of things to
tap into. So I think that that just means do that with a film.
Don't follow the same trilogy setting. Let's do something prequel before the whole
time travel Spock stuff, because I think that pissed off the community a little
bit too when they brought all like old Spock back to Spock. And yeah,
I would actually say that too, is just go go smaller, you
know, like Star Trek wasn't Star Wars, Like it wasn't about the big
action and stuff. Like, just make a great movie. That's why I
was hoping. Again, can't say make a great movie, because it's great
movies bomb all the time, but I mean, just make something anti Star
Wars in the way it stands out. It doesn't just get thrown in,
Oh it's another space movie. You know something that's okay, gonna catch your
eye, and you know a director of and and or that could be that
because the and or is you know similar in that word. It caught people's
eyes, right, So well the attack of the casting next because is very
quick. But yeah, Millia all Cock, Amelia Jones mcdog ley, those
are the names. But yeah, I'm I'm pulling for Millie. I'm disappointed.
I'm disappointed. It's good bad news. It's bad news because I always
thought that, like everyone else, you know, whenever they do Spiraguen out
there is Sony. It doesn't mean she can't do it, but I just
feel like it sounds like they're casting Supergirl because she's gonna be in Superman Legacy
and then she's gonna be in her own film. It sucks because, like
I think she's the pick Milly out of all of them. Meg Donney,
I don't know that much, so yeah, I don't have much to say
there. She has the look, and then Amelia Jones, I was mean,
Katy tumplas where she's from Coda. I think that she should have a
role on these big franchises, but I don't think Supergirl is the exact right
fit. But at the same time, I haven't seen the script and I
don't know the pitch, so she could be the perfect fit for whatever they're
doing. I just think Millie is the great choice for acting, and I
also think just Star Wars, where I don't think she's probably has a big
salary, but like people know her and they love that show, and so
it's bad news that maybe she wanted up being Inspira guent, but it's probably
good note news because it's like the way I give, you know, Sydney
Swingey to Coda, Johnson Ephron's agent shit for like the projects they picked,
Like if you're an age and you're like, hey, you could be like
in the Sony Spider Man movies, or you could be like in Legacy.
Sure, the DCU hasn't started, but I got much much more faith in
James Gunn than I do than anybody over there at Sony and the live action
crew, you know, and the fact that it's starting up, she could
be a main pillar right to start off. This absolutely next next franchise series.
So very exciting prospect for that. Yeah, So I hope it happens.
I'm pulling for MILLI I want that one to happen, and I think
she's got the that's definitely something James Gunn is doing. Whether people like her
or don't like it, like he's going for very comic book looking people like
that look like from the page, you know, so I respect it.
Yeah, you guys are any more thoughts than that. I know the other
actresses you don't know, so there's not much there. That's why it's the
question. Yeah, just speaking on MILLI I think that's really exciting. I
think I actually casted her in her little fan casting that we did on the
newscast there, so that'd be cool to get super I thought. So I'm
sure she's come up because like, oh so she was eat House a Dragon,
so she's fantastic. And I feel like I've just been waiting for that
next thing that she's been in because I really liked her in that, and
the fact that like we are getting House the Dragon season two, but not
with her. It's a little everyone's when I was like, yeah, the
season and she's gone, right, so I wish I had more episodes with
her. So yeah, I want to see her in a big franchise thing.
I think she's great. I think that's fantastic. I really hope it
is her, because I can't speak on the other ones. I know some
people, you know, they get really pumped when the voice actor retains the
role. Obviously that's happened a couple of times in Star Wars now or is
it just the one time in Star Wars? I think there's a few.
Yeah, so this is like it's a different con nuty. It's just like
some animated movies. But still like she does a good enough job. I
liked her in the movie though. She is not the problem with those movies.
Those movies stink right now, they're I think that's really all I have
to say on supergirldre any thoughts in Supergirl? You pulling fam Millia as well?
Or I think again, I can't speak to the other ladies that much.
But obviously the one that has foot already in the door, I can
see how that would give her an edge. Well, they also got their
foot in the door. Oh that one, I see. Yeah, I
think you were saying Millie. I'm like, I think they all got their
foot in the door. The one actress was in the Best Picture Winner.
I think she's doing she's doing okay. Yeah, another one actress that's that's
been voicing for Super gro that's she has. She has an edge on knowing
a little bit more about this character and just kind of like go on that
rope. But she is the one. She liked a tweet today confirming she's
screencasting. Someone's like, couldn't you see like Dave cortsm and her together?
And then she liked that, which I was like, Oh, I don't
know if we should have done that, But I could also mean she already
has the fucking role too, so they might fire her now. Well they
can't freak her bargo the universe is ending. Yeah, Supergirls, Millie's now.
Uh So I just had a question quickly about this because you guys can't
add much in the lasts We talked about this with that, But Kaylin Deaver
also think we all like her. We all liked that movie. The whole
thing is, do you guys, Abby is a character, something happens to
her, she becomes a brick. I was pretty much like a powerhouse.
You've price been photos. So she's very big. Do you think because that's
been the debate with this because Kayla is like a smaller girl, do you
think that has to happen with this, and I'm sure she might put on
some pounds, but like, do you think and you guys are coming from
this from like a non fan point of view, and I'm sure most of
the general audiences too, they don't know that, But like, do you
think that is required that you got to go out there and get like thor
Hempsworth beefcake, because that's what Abby is in the video games. I haven't
seen this image that you're describing, So I'm just picturing Amelia Clark with the
with the dras arm with Amelia Clark. No, I know that I see
from a Secret Invasion. I'm picturing that level of jackness. It's tough to
say because I really don't know anything about this character. I haven't even seen
what she looks like in the video game, let alone how she would look
comparing that to this actress. But I love this actress. I've seen her
in Oh my gosh, what's it called the No One Will Survive? No
One Will Survive? But what's the comedy? One? That she did look
smart? Book smart? That one was great and she was great nuts,
So I definitely want to see her more things. It's tough for me to
say if she is or not a great pairing for the Abbey role. Oh
my gosh, those guns, Holy fuck, those are hens were Levelskalen Deaver
is not getting that big I'll tell you that she Wow, she could take
my lunch money. That's for sure. That is imposing. But she's something
in the game that something happens to her and then she's like, I'm never
gonna let that happen again. And it's like happens when she's a small child
and she just spends her like just years just fucking training like she's she just
becomes a fucking destroyer because she doesn't want you know something, it's in Last
of Us World, right, just imagine like okay, I gotta get ready.
It's again. It's really tough for me to say, like how they
could adapt that to life's action because I don't know, Like I don't know
if she gets Bain juice that just makes her this fucking monolith of an individual,
or it's all natural in the in the game, it's just someone picking
up weights and rocks and stuff. Because the answer is the fans would say,
well, Kirklan, why aren't you go and cast a bodybuilder? True
but like, would you rather have a bodybuilder that can't act for shit and
like really can't hit anything in like emotional scenes. Get her in there.
Yeah, I'm weird'll be like scary MOVI. It'll be like a scary movie
Teo that scene that we're talking about when it's like she like gets on the
motorbike and it's like so clearly a different person. It's like a dude,
it's not a plan. So we gotta make a parody movie, scary movie
top secret, Like we gotta sit down. I think what we gotta do
is we gotta write a serious script like we do with the Drenochrome, and
then we're on set and we have those ideas and that's where we make it.
Where we write the script, and when we're making it, that's when
we make the parody stuff because we just get these ideas. But I'm I'm
just posing the question because I'm completely in your camp where I'm fine if this
just say, oh, this happened to Abbey, and the way she's trained
is she's just a very skilled fighter. Now yeah, we'd be like she's
not big, it's not. But it's like I'm all, like the story
I get it. It definitely it makes sense. I love that concept of
something that happens. Fuck this, I'm gonna get massive, So nothing like
that having it, I understand that, but like I think you can adapt
that and change that with something else. And I'm always gonna pick the better
actress. And I'm not saying there's probably there's probably somebody, but oh,
there could be a good actress, But it's just like we know what Deaver
can do, and I feel like it's also like the funness of she was
almost Elliott one point, Like I think there's no like that. That's an
interesting dynamic. So I'm always gonna pick the actor over the look because that's
just something for video games and movies, you know. That's the last thing
I was gonna say. It was like a character can be dangerous and not
be jacked, right, Like when I think of John Wick Keanu reeves like
he's not a bodybuilder, but man, that guy is dangerous. He fucks
so many people up in those movies. So yes, that could be a
tweak and as long as that's not like a core foundation of what that character
is, like like the whole story is wrapped around that, which it seems
like it's not. I think that's totally fine if you have k Deber.
I mean, hey, if she wants to fucking take some interesting supplements and
just get totally huge. Thor she got like she didn't get like Abby big,
but she got that's right. And I remember those set photos she was
almost looking like Abby there with those those guns. Thoughts on the way and
of what they should look at short because like we live in the air right
of Chris pat gets cast that he's known as like a chubby comedy guy.
Guardians comes around, he's fucking Jack Apak, Like we're in that era of
Hey, get to the gym and get real big. The Eternals guy gets
Jack. Why why did Kamel and Johann to get Jack to shooting things at
his fingers? You know, like that's where it's just like I'm completely again,
Yeah, like come on now, I totally understand that for certain characters
you need to meet different uh like this this is a topic that has been
met with a lot of flak and a lot of discrimination. A lot of
people have taken offense to it, like, oh, why should a person
have to change? Why should an actor actress have to change who they who?
They are or not who they are, but like what they look and
their appearance to fit a role for a film. I understand that. But
again, if you are in the business of being an actor actress, I
imagine that that just is that just goes hand in hand with being in that
business. You have to portray these characters that are required for this project.
Prime example, Christian Bale. Holy fuck, has that guy just gone up
and down the scale? Well? Yeah, So I think that if if
an actor or actress wants to go for it and try and meet that standard
that they these showrunners have for a certain character for their show, by all
means, go for it. But at the end of the day, I'm
not someone who is going to be losing my mind or my coconut if they're
not fitting that that in game character what they're supposed to look like, like
just Jack to the nines or like that. I think she's a great actress.
I like her, so I think putting her into this role is fantastic
And for me, at the end of the day, their acting is gonna
sell me more if they deliver that portion of it really well, more than
just like how identical do they look to the character right, so, and
then finally twenty eight days later, I'm all four or twenty eight years later,
I'm all for this. I think we talked about this on laugh night
and someone came up, Danny Boyle come back. That's great. You know,
he's a great director, Academy Award winner, many great films. I
enjoy, you know the O g Alex Garland. That's exciting choice. I
think my only hang up was just like, it's just much like we're talking
about the era of actors gotta get jacked. I just don't know this obsession
with oh when this is the plan to start a new trilogy. It's just
like, let's just it's been a long time. I think this will do
well because I think the budget will probably not be massive, but still it's
like it's been a long time. We don't know if the interest in here
is here. It's also been years as tons of zombie movies and shows.
It's like this movie to come out and eat it, and I just feel
like, and I just also hope that's not the intention. I don't want
to be watching this movie like, Okay, it's gonna end in the five
minutes and then gonna be big cliffhanger, like that was my only hold up.
I love this entire package until well, and it's planned to be the
start of a trilogy. It's like, I don't know, like that's that's
not what I was thinking when I thought, oh, twenty eight days Later
should come back. There's something to do with it, I say, like
the one film and then who knows, but like a trilogy. Alright,
I'm like, okay, so that's just my hole up. It is.
I hope it's not seql baby, but the concept of let's do a film
original director back. Absolutely, I'm all for this, and I think the
twenty eight Days Later or in twenty years I'm gonna keep saying that is.
It's a fun idea, fun concept to do, and I hope it happens
so we can do a retro. But so I like the idea. I
just didn't need a little extra of like oh and we got more. It's
like, I just don't think I need the twenty Days Later to become a
franchise. It's just a weird, weird obsession Hollywood has right now. Everything
has to be of cinematic universe and sequels and the spin offs, you know,
just just make the one. It's almost like they're like it's like a
sales pitch. They're just they're shooting for the stars and hopefully they land on
the moon, you know, like you guys shoot a trilogy because they got
it, yeah, exactly, hopefully if it bangs, then they already have
plans, as they say, but I mean just because they say that nothing
is set in stone. But I've only seen the first one once and it's
been a long time, so I really hope this happens because I really want
to do that retro and talk about with you guys. That'd be lots of
fun. So this is definitely exciting news. Especially I feel like I've just
been waiting for like a reason to rewatch those movies like Killian Murphy's and oh
yeah originally yeah, the role that broke them out to people to get on
the radar. At least, he's so hot right now, so I definitely
want to do that retro and see him in there. And how many there
there's just two, right, twenty weeks and months? Right? Easy retrons?
Okay, right, they could write that was your pitch was months and
stuff like that, and then they can wait a couple like you do your
twenty years is maybe like centuries. It's like a sci fi movie Blade Runner
style. Yeah, I I yeah. I feel like twenty eight Days Later
really just cemented itself as being I'd say it's a cult classic. It's something
that every zombie fan has, like on their list. It does definitely like
its own thing to tens, like, you're absolutely the best of zombi list.
You know, you're gonna see something from Caesar Romerow and you're gonna see
a fucking twenty eight Days Later on there, you know. Yeah, it's
it's just it's like Georgia, Yeah, George, that's the joker from Let's
Say You doing on those Now? That the first one I've seen. I've
seen it a few times. I really really enjoy it, and I I
really enjoyed the second one too. The second one is terrifying. I like
the first one because it's just is it's one of those rare zombie horror movies.
It just feels so hopeful at the end and you just really like it.
It's great. It's a really really good ending after all the tribulations they
go through. And then that second one one of the most freakyus like starts
to his zombie movie. He is, yeah, elbows in this. Yeah,
there's it's good. I don't know if I've ever seen the second all
the way through. That's interesting there again, the way they set up the
storyline, it's it's pretty interesting and I'd love to I'll rewatch it again.
It's it's the one I always go back to because it's it's crazy just how
shit hits the fan in that film. But it's great. Jeremy Reiner is
fantastic in it, really Ryan different though Redder, Yeah, fantastic. So
I'm excited to get another one in this universe. They ended that second one
on a huge cliffhanger, so I'm curious if this is going to be starting
as just kind of like a reboot of the situation starting out. Is it
going to be continuing off of that narrative, because I think you could get
some of that answered, but I think it'll be probably entirely new actors I
imagine. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I mean with Howard that
second one ended, I'm ready just for this to be global and then to
expand it. So looble sounds good. There you go. That's just some
quick, little segments. There's nothing gonna be a big, juicy main one,
but a lot of good, a little good appetizers. So uh yeah,
we want to do that because the next few weeks we've still got like
Golden we got three Golden Geeks coming out, we got some drafts, so
we maybe you'll get more of these, just kind of mini just just a
little bit over an hour newscast, but we won't sit an hour and a
half. So uh, thank you very much for tuning us. Let us
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