WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:05.519 Dreamy Live. I mean, I heart Radio WI. This is High on 2 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:26.079 the Ball with Steve Barbara and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, 3 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:29.399 welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 4 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:33.119 Yeah, we're paying the neck. Chris here with Chris got me talking that 5 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:38.320 Chris got me talking the immaculate grid and I didn't. I couldn't peel away. 6 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.200 You have breaking news. I think we do. Let's see if we 7 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:48.200 do this High on the Ball breaking News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All 8 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:51.479 right, we're gonna we're gonna start with the bad stuff first because we always 9 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:57.359 do. And there's some there's some cool stuff. But another Northwestern football lawsuit 10 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:02.600 a quarterback who played for them back in the twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen timeframe. 11 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.640 This is the fourth lawsuit. Now. The other three lawsuits are filed 12 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.079 by have been filed by players who are twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two. 13 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:14.200 So now we've got lawsuits involving players from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty two. 14 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.280 Then there's another pending lawsuits where there's like a dozen guys have signed on to 15 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:23.239 that one with that famous civil rights attorney Ben Crump. So this is this 16 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:29.359 thing's just exploding. This one's bad. I've read an athletics story and all 17 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:34.920 the details said the assistant coaches were involved in it. It doesn't name any 18 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.159 of them, but it specifically says that you know, there were these coaches, 19 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.079 and I know they'll get to their names. They've got corroboration from a 20 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:47.680 couple of other players, a couple of new details about other hazing. So 21 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.560 new types of hazing have gotten very creative, and so it's, uh, 22 00:01:53.719 --> 00:02:00.319 it just it just keeps going. I mean, details of players running around 23 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.000 with masks on going room to room to haze guys and stuff like that. 24 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:10.479 Just and this is a reputable university allegedly some smart people going at the smart 25 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.199 school. Smart school. Yeah, not surprising. The thing that I was 26 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:19.599 surprised about Jay was over the weekend, we have all these conferences doing their 27 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.039 media days, and it didn't really come up at other places. And then 28 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.960 I read a story today or last night on the in the La Times about 29 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.360 this because I guess some people that I asked some coaches about it, because 30 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:36.639 UCLA kind of went through this under the Mora regime, and how they settled 31 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.400 it out of court or whatever. And so so, like I said, 32 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:43.560 before, you know what happens, you just know it does. It just 33 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:49.240 didn't pop up at Northwestern. You have bullies being bullies wherever and acting stupid 34 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.919 wherever, and so so there we are. But again to your point from 35 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.800 last week or the week before, they said that didn't happen. Yeah, 36 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:04.960 but the entire football team said it didn't happen. A really interesting take by 37 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.240 the by this player, this quarterback. He said, there's a quote in 38 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.599 the Athletic and I think he had a press conference something like that. He 39 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:14.080 said, we were all victims. I want to make that clear, no 40 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:17.199 matter what role, if you were being hazed or on the perpetrating side, 41 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:21.919 it was a culture that you had to find a position within. And for 42 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.719 some guys that's where their identity was. But they are just as much victims 43 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:29.919 as us talking about them. How do you how do you get away from 44 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:31.400 that when you're in the middle of it and you don't want to be a 45 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.719 part of it, right, Well, you're you're gonna be the You're either 46 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.599 gonna be hazed or do the hazing, right And that it was just that 47 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:39.759 was the culture and you were, you were in it, or just get 48 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.840 the hell out. And you don't want that because you're going to school out 49 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.000 of stallship and you can't and you can't get out of it. So um 50 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.199 so man, crazy crazy stuff. So that that you know, more to 51 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.000 come. I'm sure on that one. All right, some fun stuff. 52 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.840 First of all, college basketball Kansas and North Carolina home and home series signs 53 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.759 for the twenty four, twenty five, twenty six seasons. Blue bloods. 54 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.759 Did they take Arizona and Duke's que I mean, did they know they Well, 55 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:08.039 it's good to see that. I love good to see that because you 56 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.719 Arizona Duke are gonna do it this year. I might go to the game. 57 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.759 I'm trying to try to go. I hadn't. I may been there. 58 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.720 I've been to the building and inside because Arizona played in Raleigh. I 59 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.279 went to see it. So I want to be before I die. I 60 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.560 probably try to do that. Um, but I'll try. I'm trying. 61 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.759 I didn't. I you know, when my daughter was you know, at 62 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.839 Duke, I did go visitor and we went to the building, didn't go 63 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.839 inside. I'm like that's very no, no, no, exactly, it's 64 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:36.519 very cozy small ash Uh. It's like, but you know, I'm sure 65 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.079 it's crazy and crazy, but to me still and you've been there, back 66 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.240 court to me is the best. Yeah, because it's gonna collapse on you 67 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.319 at the moment, it's gonna start on fire with you in the building. 68 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.800 But it's like, it's like after all those years of going to Dodger Stadium, 69 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:56.079 and then I went to Camden Yards and it was the first. It 70 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:59.839 was one of the first of those little yeah, you know, footprints st 71 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:01.680 I was like, dang, daddy, that's a little that's a little place 72 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:06.040 that I got the same feeling about. Uh, fenway, I felt that 73 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:09.639 way. I don't I'm not a big I was back, but I went 74 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.560 to Chicago, went to Wrigley and I'm thinking this is the magic. Maybe 75 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.759 see this is me being me. But I don't know. Maybe I just 76 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.560 didn't get involved enough. So anyways, Kansas and North Carolina, i'd like 77 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:23.560 to I'm gonna say, I'm I don't know if it's true. I'm gonna 78 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:26.759 say, you're taking a queue from Duke in Arizona play Home and Home among 79 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:31.160 quote unquote blue bloods. It is, well, that's true. It's gonna 80 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:35.680 be bloods all right, um uh. ESPN is announced that the first college 81 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:41.920 game Day it's gonna be at the North Carolina South Carolina game on September two, 82 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.079 on Saturday. It'll be at South Carolina. No, you can tell 83 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:47.160 that the oh no, the game, no, I take back. The 84 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.839 game is in Charlotte. So it's not in either campus, but it's in 85 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:55.600 Charlotte. It's a neutral site game between North Carolina South Carolina. And that's 86 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.040 what game day will be. And in a big game on Fox, the 87 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:01.720 Big Game they call it Big Game. Yeah, Big Neon Big New is 88 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:06.360 gonna be Colorado and TCU. H so you know that the first week is 89 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:11.560 not two glamorous in terms of matchups, but but it should be fun. 90 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.720 TCU and TCU last year's runner up, right, and this is a good 91 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:16.519 this is a good rivalry game Ruth Carolina, South Carolina. So yeah, 92 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.680 it'll be from But you know we're talking football, Steve, We're talking freaking 93 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:25.639 football, which I'm excited about. Um, here's a kind of a goofy 94 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.639 once the Louisville and Miami who will who are both in the in the ACC 95 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.879 and so they play each other and come up with a trophy, a new 96 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:39.920 trophy, the the Schnellenberger Trophy. After after a Norm Schnellenberger, it's a 97 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:44.920 pair of his boots that have been made into a bronze. Then in control. 98 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:49.959 That's cool that they're gonna that's gonna exchange for uh for the for the 99 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:55.959 game. Schnellenberger on the trophy. Sow the Schnellenberger coach in Miami from nineteen 100 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:59.920 seventy nine to nineteen eighty three when they won the national championship. Then he's 101 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.959 coach from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety four. At there's a whole new 102 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:10.240 trophy out there. Um, A couple of a couple of tough things going 103 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.680 on. Well, first, I know I haven't seen the video of this, 104 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:18.240 but UH an ESPN UH analyst who was on the field of doing soccer 105 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:24.240 Shota Hislop. I guess he passed out right there on yeah side. Apparently 106 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.680 he's doing okay. I haven't I've been able to go deep into it to 107 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.839 find out if they said what it was, but scary, it was scary, 108 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:34.160 and and he's okay, yeah, he was just just through a little 109 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:39.759 second start wabbly and then fails on his face, right. Um a tough 110 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:45.639 thing on Naheim Hines, running back for Boston Boston Buffalo. Um had had 111 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.639 a season INDI knee injury. Off the field. He was and if you 112 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:53.160 read this, he was on a jet ski and somebody rammed him. Well 113 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.920 I didn't. He busted up his knee and he's out for the year. 114 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:01.879 I just wonder if a jet ski is kind of like you shouldn't be. 115 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.399 I mean, jet skis you got just really screw it up to get into 116 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.319 anticipate anybody bumping into you, right right. And they said he was still, 117 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.360 he wasn't, he wasn't moving, and some guy just rammed him and 118 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:20.879 he apparently it was not a dolphin guy. Was it dophin Pictriots guy? 119 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.959 Um but rammed him and uh, and he's out for the year. And 120 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.959 you know, and then that goes to that whole conversation, the thing going 121 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.639 on about running backs and you know, okay, well we'll just go get 122 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:31.960 another one. You said that they you saw that they had a meeting, 123 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:35.679 they had a meeting. Anything, what's it gonna solve? Right? You 124 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.159 know, there's nothing. There's nothing in you know, the collective bargaining or 125 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.320 anything like that that they can say, well, you're a running back, 126 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.360 we'll do this right. Look, you know, unfortunately the position is what 127 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.279 it is. Those sixteen million dollars chicks are still gonna catch. Right. 128 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:54.440 Saw that Josh Jacobs, the running back from uh from the Raiders, who 129 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.080 got got a franchise tag but hasn't signed his tag. He left, he 130 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.600 left. They said he was seeing gay in Vegas, getting on a plane 131 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.200 and leaving Vegas instead of going to camp. And so, uh so there's 132 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.240 a you know, and then the uh sae Quon Barkley's you know, he 133 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:11.759 has talked about whether or not he hold out, and it's like, how 134 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.879 did that go for Leveon Bell? Right, there's no other profession, no 135 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.200 other profession that they'll come across. Well, they'll make this kind of money, 136 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.240 right, and good luck with that. You know. Se Quon Bartley's 137 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:30.559 franchise tag contract is ten million dollars. You hold out, you're never getting 138 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.080 the ten million dollars. You're not going to make that up in a later 139 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.399 contract. No, you're not. In fact, you know again, ask 140 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.120 Levion Bell how it went for him. He was apologizing to Pittsburgh fans a 141 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.120 couple of weeks ago. Staying I never should have I never should have laughed. 142 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.080 You know his career. You know what it's going right in the No, 143 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.639 it is, it is what it is that I think everyone has to 144 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.159 deal with that. It's like it's like, uh, you should say this. 145 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.120 I don't know if you do, but um, It's like when I 146 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.039 worked for Gannette for years and people, you know, they shut down the 147 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.519 door doors after twenty three years from me. I never pooh pooed him. 148 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.039 They took care of me for twenty three years. I mean, I have 149 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.799 to move on because guess what, I had no choice, no choice. 150 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.120 I'm not gonna do nothing. They took care of me. Blah blah blah. 151 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.320 And people just kind of like you say, blah blah blah. Well, 152 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.440 it is what it is. You have to you have to move on, 153 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.279 right, you do you do? You know? Look, I'm signing 154 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.279 a ten million dollar contract. I'm signing it. I'm gonna play. And 155 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.399 if if I got another contract next you, I'm signing them. Sure, 156 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.759 you make the best to make the best of it as money as much as 157 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.080 you can. I did see a somebody did a pole and had um uh 158 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:41.080 Jehan Robinson as the best odds to win Lookie of the Year. Probably yeah, 159 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.639 yeah, probably all right. We talked last week about the Vikings wide 160 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.519 receiver Jordan Addison, who got busted going on forty miles an hour. He 161 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:52.039 was saying, he said, we got a call. Go go, let's 162 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.159 take this call. H you're on the air and eye on the ball. 163 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.799 Hey, this is John Show calling and say hey to Steve Riverat how you 164 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.240 guys, did you hear from you? How are you doing? Good? 165 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.480 Man? Listen, you know, just listening to a little bit of I'd 166 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.960 kind of been popping in and out. I got you know, my work 167 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.080 hours changed. But listening to you guys talk, I mean, Dave Hkey 168 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.039 sure doesn't deserve a lot of credit. And I don't think a lot of 169 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.080 people have talked about the hires that he's made, the job that they've done. 170 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.799 But listening to jet Fish, listen to how he talks, like, 171 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:31.879 you can tell he gets it. You look at who they're bringing in like 172 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.759 for speaking purposes, right, he has the NFL with the connections to sell 173 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:41.559 of these kids, and that makes a big difference, I think you because 174 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:45.519 he's got the right coaching staff actually, and then I'll take it a step 175 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:50.000 further. The strength and conditioning folks that we got from Alabama seems to be, 176 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:54.240 uh, you know, as good as it kids or just what we're 177 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.000 getting out of kids and the buying that we seem to be getting from these 178 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:00.440 kids. And what I'm watching social media was yeah, you know, we 179 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.720 uh, we've been we've been talking about how you know, he's he's come 180 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.039 in as the he's the he's offensive play caller. We're not gonna, you 181 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.519 know, dance around that, but he's he's become he had taken on more 182 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:15.200 of the CEO world than really any coach since all the way back to maybe 183 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.679 Dick Tomy, right, maybe Macavic because he was just be controlling, but 184 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:24.600 you know, the ceo aspect of being a football around here. I know 185 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:31.200 that word. I hear you, I hear I didn't mean to say it, 186 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:37.559 but I I'll bleep it out of the podcast right up there. We 187 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.039 got we got one of our colors colors last week because bumbling, So I 188 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:45.919 guess we might have to go and go that way with it. Yeah, 189 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.679 it is what it is. But like you got a guy that actually but 190 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.960 see the thing is is they to bring back the alumni but to invest in 191 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.159 talking and like keeping the community involved. You know, I don't think the 192 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:03.320 Tucson realizes what they have yet because he year two and he's gonna leave if 193 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.720 we don't support the program. Yeah, now, because people are seeing we've 194 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.879 got now we've got NFL caliber players on our roster, we've got the best 195 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.120 somebody Area said that we've got the best lineman in the conference in on our 196 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.600 roster. Win was the last time anybody said that about it I was on 197 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:24.200 a football on any level. Yeah, I don't remember in a while. 198 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.320 Now, Well, we'll see how We'll see how much support if they if 199 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.919 there's a nice attendance bump this year, right because it started to you know, 200 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:31.759 they got a few good crowds last year, but now you got to 201 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.840 get a consistent least. We'll see what happens with that this year. It's 202 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:37.600 fair, you know, it's kind of the same prime yours have though you 203 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:43.440 only have thirty five thousand diehard, right if everybody else comes from somewhere else, 204 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.320 and you know, there's always a complaint either the games are too late, 205 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.279 these games are too hot, a complaint, you know, instead of 206 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.720 people just showing up and shown out and buying in knowing that that's actually how 207 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.960 you help to build a winner. Yeah, you know, it's a proved 208 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.759 me the prowly fan base allow at least for not for the fan base, 209 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.240 but for the extras that live here that have other things that they want to 210 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.360 do at their time, like go for a bike ride. You know what 211 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.960 I mean? Exactly exactly, Thanks John, We appreciate it. We gotta 212 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.240 go. Thanks. Hey, before, do you have you more? I 213 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.320 have a quick thing. We'll just real quick. This is Jordan Addison. 214 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.320 He said his dog was having an emergency. That's why he was going four 215 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:26.039 hundred forty. And there's a dog with him, the dog Collins from sumwhere. 216 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.559 But dogs breaking it. I gotta go to the hospital. All right, 217 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.399 I'll bring it out. Money up later. Okay, let's let's take 218 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.960 our next break. We're gonna be back. James Prepia of the of the 219 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.360 Oregonian Well talk to him about his conversation with George Clappoff during the press conference 220 00:14:43.639 --> 00:15:00.320 at pack Love Media Day last week. So we'll be right back. 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We'll put 277 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:15.720 the work in for you. Breaking down all the ex is at Alls. 278 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:21.359 It's Steve Rivera and Jakins Summings. This isn't I Am the Ball On Fox 279 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:23.920 Sports fourteen. Vie, Hey, welcome back to one about here on Fox 280 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:27.160 Sports fourteen. Cupie on Steve Rivera. He's Jackins. Also now on the 281 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:33.160 phone, we have the intrepid James Crepia from your Oregonian. He did a 282 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.480 fantastic job last week. Change. I do appreciate it, guys. Uh, 283 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:42.920 what do you think? Honestly it really was that I wasn't planning for 284 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.599 the response that was generated. What do you not how I entered the day? 285 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.599 What do you think he means by intrepid, they're James not even I 286 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.440 don't think he knows what that means. What do you think it means? 287 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:03.599 Oh? I just think that, Uh, folks have I think if if 288 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.599 there's a silver lining too conference realignment and they got the seemingly endless discussion that 289 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:14.119 it is, Yeah, I think that uh, whatever whatever attention that that 290 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:19.119 has brought that reporters like myself who just happened to uh uh not just do 291 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.880 a whole lot of talking, but do some listening and just do our jobs. 292 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.759 You know, the whole idea of listening and following up. You are 293 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.240 silver aligning to all this. But uh, if people doing their jobs and 294 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:34.839 and uh doing them doing them well, uh it generates a little bit of 295 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:37.680 appreciation, Well, then hey, I'll take it. Well, It's funny 296 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.880 when when Kliakoff talked about, well, we're gonna do this and and go 297 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.480 away from the announcement, and I'm thinking, oh, and then I'm thinking 298 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.480 you're probably I think that Mike Back, give me that Mike Back is I 299 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.720 got to ask another question? Yeah, I just say I was. I 300 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.839 mean, as far as I was concerned, Um, I was entering the 301 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:03.279 day quite honestly, with a lot of major questions for George in that setting, 302 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:10.559 because without an announcement and without details, it wasn't like what what level 303 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:15.119 of specificity was anyone going to ask that he was going to suddenly provide some 304 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.839 unbelievable depth of response. And I don't mean that for anybody. I don't 305 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.200 mean just because oh it's George or something like that. It's not personal. 306 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.079 I'm saying like they didn't have a deal to announce, and you knew that 307 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.880 going in, so any question you were going to ask about it, about 308 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.759 specifics of it, about money, about expansion, about anything with it. 309 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:36.839 It wasn't going to be like, oh, well, funny should ask. 310 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:41.559 Now that we're in the room and there's several hundred people here and we're a 311 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.400 broadcasting this live I'm back to old network. Thank thanks for asking allow me 312 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.599 to wait into the weed. Yeah, exactly, so you knew that it 313 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.279 wasn't part of it, So I said, I really wasn't planning to ask 314 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:56.119 much. The one thing I did was about in general about expansion candidates, 315 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.240 and that's because I'm working on a story to that effect. Right. But 316 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:04.640 then when yeah, he provided the response that he did to I believe it 317 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:11.480 was Richard Johnson of the Sports Illustrative we pursus question regarding a deal and whatnot 318 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:17.039 and and said, yeah, we're not announcing something today on purpose in order 319 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.960 to focus on football. Yeah. I don't think I was alone by any 320 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.839 stretch of the imagination among people in the room or people watching at home. 321 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:27.480 It's that wait on purpose? What um? So you know, I I 322 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:32.160 say, if it weren't me, I hope whoever would have gotten the last 323 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:36.079 question at that point naturally would have followed up on that point. So, 324 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:37.319 yeah, it happened to be me in that moment. And okay, but 325 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.279 again, I hope whoever would have would have gotten that they put it on 326 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:48.079 set because I think it captured a lot of people's attention and naturally was the 327 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:51.680 topic that everyone was paying attention to for the better part of the last year. 328 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:55.119 So I to me, I just did my job and asked the question 329 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.559 that everybody wanted an answer to. So a couple of days removed from that 330 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.720 now in that little change, as you said, where he said, you 331 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.200 know, we didn't we didn't announce it on purpose because when I'm focused on 332 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.039 football. He said, well, does that mean the deal is done? 333 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:10.680 And you're just not telling us what's the deal? So what do you think 334 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.480 of that whole exchange? A few days later? Now, did it mean 335 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:19.839 anything? What do you think about it? I don't. I don't think 336 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.960 they had some I don't believe they had something done that they're just holding off 337 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.839 on. Uh, because rightly they could have done it today, right if 338 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:32.400 that were the case. And then I think that something probably would have leaked 339 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.839 by now if they were doing it tomorrow. So I don't think something is 340 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:42.000 completely done. That said, let's call it like I think people's reaction, 341 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:52.920 particularly at the time on Friday, wash, I haven't said the people there 342 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.559 at the time, you know, the hour. So thereafter I went, 343 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:02.319 look, told us what this is a little bit like He didn't deny that 344 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:04.319 something might be done. I know, I don't think that it was, 345 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:10.000 and I think it just happened to me speak and that's okay. But let's 346 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:15.880 also be like totally cards on the table here. If if an analogous situation, 347 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.599 maybe not specific to a media deal and the existential kind of nature of 348 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.720 it that it is, but if a similar situation played out in almost any 349 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.920 other league in college sports, if a commissioner had said such a thing, 350 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:38.839 I don't believe the initial reaction would have been the same that it was of 351 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:44.680 towards staying it on Friday. I think if a different commissioner said it regarding 352 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.880 virtually anything else and it became like, well, you know, I think 353 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:49.799 you're reading a little too much into it, you know, and it's you 354 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.799 know, I think that some people's reaction would have been of any other almost 355 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.880 any other commissioner would have been like, oh boy, what a what a 356 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.400 sly move there to kind of just like plant that seed, you know, 357 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.359 say without saying it, you know, what have you. But because of 358 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:11.319 the fervor, both the natural and artificially manufactured, to be quite honest, 359 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:18.240 that this media deal conversation has generated over the last year, I think that 360 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.599 that is you know, people's preconceived notions one way or the other, if 361 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.480 one's going to get down, the one's not going to get done, that 362 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.200 someone's going to leave, that no one's gonna leave, that it's going to 363 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:33.000 be ahead or behind of other leagues or whatever. I think that is what 364 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.799 drove a lot of the response. So in terms of your question though, 365 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.000 of like what do I think now a couple of days later, No, 366 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:41.880 I don't think a deal was absolutely done and that it was some sly move. 367 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.880 That's that. I don't think it was like a crime against humanity for 368 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:52.680 the commissioner possibly misspeak insofar as possibly saying something that could be like an implication 369 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:57.680 that you may not have necessarily entered the day intending to make right. You 370 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.920 know, like I do think a deal is going to get done. I 371 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.079 don't think it was already done, but I do think a deal is going 372 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:07.000 to get done. And in terms of where it ranks relatives everyone else, 373 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.680 I have no idea. But if it was that awful, it was that 374 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:18.680 bad. I think that schools who are a school in particular who still could 375 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.720 leave, may very well left already that plain and obvious that a deal was 376 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.559 that a forthcoming deal is going to be that below value. So time will 377 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:32.599 tell. But no, and in terms of that exchange, and yes, 378 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.279 it just happened to be you know, me asking the follow up question. 379 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:40.599 Again, it wasn't personal. Yeah, I don't think it. I don't 380 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:42.599 think it was being sly with it. I think you may have just happened 381 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:47.359 to say something that a lot of people, uh, you know, their 382 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:52.000 ears worked up very quickly in terms of what that implied. So so I 383 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.839 have a friend we both have with this friend who listens to us uh daily 384 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.119 and he says that he travels a lot, so he's on the East coast 385 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.039 a lot. He says, people think that the PAC twelve is gonna is 386 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.680 going to disband and it's just kind of an only a matter of time blah 387 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.400 blah blah, and it's and it says, well, that's not the feeling 388 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.759 in the house. Do you think that the national side of it has this 389 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.160 different perception that are people who are in the house, like guys like you 390 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:22.640 who report on the day to day of the PAC twelve. Yeah, And 391 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:29.200 to be fair, I don't think it's merely a national perception versus regional perception 392 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.440 issue. I don't. I mean, look, six six eight months ago, 393 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.920 I think there are a lot of people in this league who felt a 394 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.440 lot less optimistic than they do today. So I don't think it's merely that 395 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:48.279 way. But I think even to this day, I think there are plenty 396 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:51.799 of folks locally within the PAC twelve. Maybe not you know, on the 397 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:53.480 confert office per se, but locally in terms of the campus level, and 398 00:27:53.640 --> 00:28:00.240 multiple campuses, by the way, one campus thing, who firmly believe in 399 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.079 college athletics. Again, not just in this league even for that matter, 400 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:11.880 that further consolidation is going to happen in the FPS right now. Whether or 401 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.240 not that happens in the next two years, or whether that happens ten or 402 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:22.759 twelve or fifteen years from now, again I mean a long enough timeline, 403 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:27.279 we'll see. But I do think further consolidation will happen, and I think 404 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.240 a lot of the I not just think, I know there are people on 405 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:36.279 local campuses, let alone in conference offices who believe that that will continue. 406 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:42.839 What slows the rate of that consolidation is grants of rights and contract law, 407 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.119 long term contracts, and by long term, I mean you know, more 408 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.720 than the day today you know, the things that prevent freedom of movement by 409 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.480 grants of rights is what prevents that. That's what you're seeing play out right 410 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.279 now in real time with the ACC. If it weren't for that, how 411 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.240 many teams be ACC. You have the split, the implied split out there 412 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:07.599 the report, it's split out there where it's nearly half and a half. 413 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:14.359 Yeah, and it seems like there's an awfully, awfully iron clad grant of 414 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:21.240 rights prevents the half that's a little uneasy these days from exploring other options for 415 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:26.000 the next decade or so. And yes, those are the things that prevent 416 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.640 consolidation, is grants of rights and long term contracts. So, James, 417 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.839 are four schools that, in my mind get are getting talked about the most 418 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.200 in terms of something happening with them. Arizona, Colorado down here, and 419 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.799 then Washington and Oregon up there. What's the general Do you have a sense 420 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:47.799 of the general mood around Oregon, the fan base, the administration, just 421 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.160 people around the program about what they ultimately want to see happen, first in 422 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.359 the short term with currently what's going on in the back twelve and then as 423 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.839 you say, long term when we I'm like you, I fully expect, 424 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.799 I know, the round of realignment probably in five years, after all these 425 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.680 new TV deals and random rights have been signed start to come to start to 426 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.319 end. I think it's at that time. But what do you have a 427 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:19.039 sense of what people want to happen around Oregon. I think for the portion 428 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:26.599 of fans and fan base that it certainly seems to express itself on social media 429 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.000 and the like, and I don't think that that's even all that representative, 430 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.960 but such as it is, I think in the long term, a lot 431 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.440 of folks do want to see them go to the Big ten. I think 432 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.119 in the long run and the long term, I think there are folks probably 433 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:45.599 within the institution who wouldn't mind that reality eventually. In the short term, 434 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.880 I don't. I really can't start again. I really can't speak for fans 435 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.319 and whatnot, but I think there's probably a little bit more of a split 436 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.519 there in terms of probably a little bit of an old guard and older generation. 437 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.440 A fan yearns for the way things have been and were, and that 438 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.200 you know, doesn't like to see the LA schools leave, doesn't like to 439 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.440 see Texas and Oklahoma leave the big twelve m But that's kind of amusing just 440 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.440 in that as if the Big Twelve has been this one hundred year institution, 441 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.559 it's like not for nothing, the Big Twelve was was a marriage of two 442 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.279 conferences. Like I, you know, like to remind I'd like to ask 443 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.119 the people who yearn for the way things were if they can remind me what 444 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.920 the origins the Big Twelve were. Um, we can go down that rabbit 445 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.599 hole. But as it may, it's always been part of the ecosystem college 446 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.359 sport. So in the short term, I think people are just want this 447 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.880 to be done whichever way it happens to go. If their preferences for it 448 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.599 to the Big ten, then I think they want it to be done and 449 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.400 for you know, thousand of cards to fall so that it allows that to 450 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.720 happen. If there's somebody who's okay and content with for you know, staying 451 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.119 in the Pac ten, Pac twelve, whatever it'll be going forward, then 452 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:02.960 for the deal to get done and to procure as much money as possible out 453 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.319 of that deal for as long as it'll go, and then revisit it again 454 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.599 at a later date. So that seems to be from the masses and institutionally 455 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.680 and needless to say, with a new president who has only been on the 456 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.319 job for about three weeks, don't have much by way of insight in terms 457 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:24.079 of evolved to shit on the on the spectrum on this particular subject matter. 458 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.880 And we really haven't heard much from Rob Mullins over the last year but from 459 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:32.759 media day to the next, other than for myself a brief conversation with him 460 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.759 back at spring meetings in Arizona in Scottsdale, back at the beginning of May. 461 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.200 So we don't have a couple of minutes here, James, at the 462 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.559 end of the day, in a few months from now, are we going 463 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.480 to see a team from the Pack twelve in the hunt for a national title? 464 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:55.599 I think that there will be at least one Pack twelve team into the 465 00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.319 month of November, firmly in the conversation, I think when not just the 466 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.519 initial playoff rankings. I think when you know the people, whatever week of 467 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.200 playoff rankings carries us at that point into the first or second week in November, 468 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.119 that they'll be a Packtwell team, a lot at least one Pactwell team, 469 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.400 a lot maybe two. Whether or not they'll ultimately get in the playoff, 470 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.279 I'm not sure. In part because the quarterbacks in this league are really 471 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.519 good, including on teams who may not be very good, and when the 472 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.039 most important position on the field is really good and has that level of parity 473 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.160 and that level of ability, even some bad teams might be able to pay 474 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.480 off some upsets. Let alone cannibalization of the top. And if anything, 475 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.799 if any Pack twelve fan needs a reminder, you know, last ten plus 476 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.279 years, this league cannibalizes itself like none other. That has probably been one 477 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:52.319 of its biggest problems. So even in a year where they have some tremendous 478 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.960 quarterbacks top the bottom and definitely the strongest I think in the country, top 479 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.519 the bottom in the league, that means that there could be some live bullets, 480 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.920 you know, lower in the conference standings just because of quarterback play alone. 481 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.679 And then you talk about some premier quarterbacks at the top and some of 482 00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:10.480 the better teams at the top that could also do some damage to each other. 483 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.880 Yeah, I think there'll be at least one, maybe two teams alive 484 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.159 entering November. I'm just not sure if the league will be able to have 485 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.760 one alive by the end of its championship game because quite frankly, I think 486 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.679 we all have to pretty feel pretty confident about penciling in Georgia for one of 487 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.039 those four spots. There are two time champions with a comparatively easier schedule than 488 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.760 they've had the past couple of years, and so that means there's there's three 489 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.239 spots left available, and you've got to think the Big Ten champion, whoever 490 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.320 it may be, whoever your choice, is probably getting one of them. 491 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.559 So there's there's going to be finite ability for the Patrol Champion, whoever it 492 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:51.480 is, to be one of those other teams. Did you agree with the 493 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.440 order of because we all know there's four teams that kind of stick out the 494 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.320 USC Washington, Utah, organ Did you kind of agree with the order that 495 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.039 the media had those in the poll last week? Or how where do you 496 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.719 have those? Oregon coming in fourth among those four? Um, I could 497 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:14.079 kind of go either way with it, honestly, I did. I gotta 498 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:15.119 go back to my ballot, to be honest, because I filled it out 499 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.360 in about five minutes. And I'm not kidding, because I think I did 500 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.360 my entire ballot like thirty minutes before the deadline, So I got to I 501 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.599 had to pull it up again myself but I'm pretty sure I had SC one. 502 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.719 I may have had Oregon two, and I was just doing that on 503 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:37.079 an accurcate talent that that was all. Honestly, I don't look past the 504 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.480 concerns that Oregon has defensively, No, nor do I dismiss them. You 505 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.000 know, they were not a very good defense last year, and some of 506 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.800 their better defensive players they lost. Now, they did add a lot. 507 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.119 They added a lot both via the high school ranks, and they added a 508 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.480 lot be the portal, particularly on defense, and they had a lot of 509 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.000 roster turn on that side. You know, they had some issues and they 510 00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:01.719 tried to address them as best they could. So again, time will tell. 511 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:07.960 But do I think I'm a little bit lower on Utah? I think 512 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.760 than some of my peers, and that's only in part because they lost some 513 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.079 really good players too. Yeah, And frankly, when some teams at the 514 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:21.159 top as strong as they are, and I think for Oregon and USC, 515 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.519 who both had suspect defenses last year, USC to an extreme, I think 516 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.440 they both got a lot better there at their weaknesses. I'm not sure Utah 517 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:36.760 has raised its relative bar if if if there's a proverbial rising tide at the 518 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:42.039 top. For those four teams in particular, I think a couple of them 519 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:47.079 rose a lot faster than one of the others. I think Oregon and USC 520 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:54.199 in particular addressed some of their most glaring weakness is strongest and raised their caliber 521 00:36:54.199 --> 00:37:00.280 of talent more so than Washington next and then Utah, who again, I 522 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:07.039 think it's very good and superbly well coached, but I don't believe that I'm 523 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.039 not as high on them entering the seasons as they all be a two time 524 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.960 Raining Conference champions relative to us the Oregon and Washington, I don't. But 525 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.320 that said, I don't think having them fourth or even fifth in terms of 526 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:27.239 order of finish because u CELA, thanks to its schedule, I think could 527 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.599 find itself in a very fortuitous position at the end of the season, and 528 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.840 that I don't. If you asked me who is the more talented team, 529 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.480 maybe even the better coach team, I'm probably picking Utah, But based on 530 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.360 schedule, if you ask me who do I think will finish ahead of who, 531 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.559 I think there's a chance that UCLA could finish ahead of Utah because I 532 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.039 think they have the easier schedule both in the league and my conference for that 533 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.880 matter. James. Always good to talk to you. We'll talk to you 534 00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:00.239 again later this year. Man, appreciate it, James, thanks bunch. 535 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:05.920 The intrepid, the intrepid James. Fearless, That's what I mean. That's 536 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.760 what it means. Furious. You looked it up, didn't you. Sure? 537 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.039 I knew it was it was tenacious. I thought it was more tenacious. 538 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.400 But yeah, I would say, you didn't know what it meant. 539 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.159 When you said I don't know, I said, I thought it was more 540 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.079 fearless, like like the fearless, like tenacious. All right, let's take 541 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.119 our last let's think our last break. We'll come back. We'll take their 542 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.400 cause. Five two zero, four, one, six, seventy four, 543 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:37.199 forty We'll be right back. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you 544 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.679 know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now. Take a look back 545 00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.639 at the Ludolson era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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Cuffy, I'm Steve Rivera, 596 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.679 he's Jay Gonzons gonna talk to James Kreftia. Yea. He even sends 597 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:36.800 things like, well, you know, very very intelligently, he wouldn't he 598 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:43.599 wouldn't do well on this show, spart but a great information. Yeah, 599 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.800 well you know, and again he you know, he wasn't anticipating that conversation, 600 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.840 right and and I thought there was going to have to be a conversation 601 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.719 about it. Sure and um true. I like that they you know, 602 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.480 they went after you know, the Lafcoff came out with it, you know, 603 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.320 right away. But I agree to it also went a little deeper than 604 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:05.320 I think a lot of people thought. Sure true, because as he said, 605 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.800 there's there's no deal done. They weren't announcing the deal. So what 606 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.800 are we talking about? You know, this pregnancy has gone way along. 607 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.960 So can I make you feel old? You already made yourself already do because 608 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:16.079 I look at you and I and I'm like, I'm older than you, 609 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:20.400 so yes, go ahead, make you feel a little older than you already 610 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.760 said during the commercial. Oh no, I feel a bad one comes No, 611 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.360 no, no, this is not involved in us, I know, 612 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:28.039 but I feel a bad one. That's going to make forty years ago today 613 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:34.519 George Brett was forty years ago. Forty years ago, Holy crap, seemed 614 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:38.280 like thirty years ago. You know. I told you we're gonna have Jim 615 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.519 Young on the show tomorrow. And he got here fifty years ago. Yeah, 616 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.199 way before me. And I was in high school when he got here, 617 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.840 and I'm like, fifty years We're gonna go back through some serious memory 618 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.199 lanes. Yeah, way back, way back. Yeah, so that forty 619 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.840 years ago, you remember that time? I do remember, why, you 620 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.880 know, seeing the highlight of that. Now we didn't we didn't have YESP 621 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.679 at that time. Three yeah you did seven Yeah, okay, but uh 622 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.559 but it was on everything. It was on everything, all the highlights. 623 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.039 You never even heard the rule, right right right, yeah, yeah, 624 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.920 I didn't know that was a rule. And apparently during the com I saw 625 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:17.320 the show today and they went back and blah blah blah. It says Oh. 626 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.079 The announcers back there says, Oh, they're gonna they're gonna cancel it 627 00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.840 because I've seen it happen before. And I'm thinking, you've seen it happen 628 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:30.320 before when and they did? But do you know the rest of the story. 629 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.559 I guess there was an appeal, right, an appeal of the game. 630 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.920 They won the appeal, so they had to go back and replay the 631 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.880 game from a certain point, and they kicked the guys off. They threw 632 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.280 them out obviously because it was the bottom of the nineteen won the game. 633 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:49.280 They brought them back and they unsuspended the guys so they played again. Wow, 634 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.760 it was really strang won the game. I think Kansas City won eventually. 635 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.039 I have to look at I believe you, and the count and they 636 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.360 counted the kind of the home run it's coming back. It was like, 637 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.440 yeah, that's a bunch of crap. I'll be a better word thing um, 638 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.199 And they kend of reinstated everything. Wow, all right, well, 639 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.519 and apparently that's a piece that doesn't get every parted. And apparently two weeks 640 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.920 before they had played each other. You know, by the time Kansas City 641 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.760 and New York hated each other and who didn't hate in New York, right 642 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.840 that they had known about the bat for a long time. They just wanted 643 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.079 that. I knew. They just wanted to bring it out, waiting for 644 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.599 the right time, and that was the right time. I didn't know about 645 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.480 that, that part, that part I knew. Yeah, I have a 646 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.639 vaguat collection of Yeah, that they ended up having to come back and pick 647 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.480 up the game because because Kansas City was the home team, so I mean 648 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.239 the visit became so they play the bottom of the right. Okay, that's 649 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.960 interesting stuff, really interesting stuff. Um A couple of things that I left 650 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.639 over from from breaking news. Another another player uh suspended for the for the 651 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:53.880 season for gambling on NFL who's a e E e Oma? Who was Urique 652 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.119 of the Broncos, the defense event for the Broncos, suspended for the year, 653 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.039 spend it in death at least for at least the twenty twenty three season, 654 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.199 for betting on the NFL games last last season. Which guys, guys, 655 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.360 guys, guys, guys, guys, Hey, are you somebody who 656 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.599 likes the you know, the throwbacks and all that kind of stuff. You 657 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.280 saw that they're they're gonna they're gonna do the cream circle. Uh, Camp 658 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:22.599 of Bay uniforms, you know the orange uniforms this year Seahawk uniforms. Yeah, 659 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.119 the similar uniforms got announced. It any created a bit of an argument 660 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:34.119 over this because if you're a call the the old Cleveland Browns are are really 661 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.440 the Baltimore Ravens, right? All their records you know, went with the 662 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:44.159 Ravens. The Ravens aren't gonna run throw up a throwback uniform of the Cleveland 663 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.360 Trown because the Cleveland Browns are now in the league and they've got But the 664 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.039 Tennessee Titans announced they're gonna have a throwback uniform and it's gonna be the Houston 665 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.519 Oilers, the light blue, the powder blue jersey with the white helmet and 666 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.480 all of that. See, if you we'll talk about the Tams agree with 667 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.119 it. Run there and I on the ball. How you guys, This 668 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.719 is a Gabriel calling from California. Hey, or how are you guys? 669 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.119 You're doing well? Gabriel kind of moved you in today. Um i'm uh, 670 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.159 I'm okay. Um. I just wanted to talk about more of um 671 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:23.760 of the patrol. Uh the patrol, um? Uh what happened on Friday 672 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:32.920 and so obviously I think one obviously, I think uh he George klea coop 673 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:42.239 basically, um didn't announce that there was a Patrol media Patrol Media deal, 674 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:47.000 and I think or going in a reporter basically says, so there is a 675 00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:50.320 TV deal or any he said no, no, no, no no no 676 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:58.840 no no, uh stop talking, don't don't worry about it. So I 677 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:04.840 just I still things that had cough is' is not way in two over his 678 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.519 head. Just a village idiot. Oh some letters to you that to us? 679 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:15.320 All right? Well? Also um, also, uh, let's talk 680 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:22.079 to Arizona football. Um so um, I like how Jaden Delora and Jetfish 681 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:29.440 basically U set a statement about the whole several suits and so I really I 682 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:34.159 really liked your statement. And so let's just move on and just focused on 683 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.280 focus forcus seeing on the this season coming up. Okay, sounds good. 684 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.840 I agree with that. You know, I think people want to want to 685 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.360 move on kind of like they want to get the TV deal, so we 686 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.519 can move on from that as well. So agree with you on all that, 687 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.559 Gabriel. Yeah, all right, man, thanks so much, keep 688 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.840 listening. To talk to you later this week. Okay, thank you. 689 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.840 Gabriel's pretty passionate about it. Yeah, yes, and he's kind of right 690 00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:01.559 on lot of and a lot of people are right. They want they want 691 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:07.760 all these things settled. What do you think about the about the Titans wearing 692 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.519 an Oilers uniform? Right? Wrong? Yeah, I don't, I don't 693 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.320 know, I don't don't care, but I think the coolness of it. 694 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:16.119 I do like the powder blue stuff. But how how tough can you be 695 00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:21.440 in a powder blue beltfit? Right? U think? Gregory? We were, 696 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.760 well, we called it Carolina blue. Well, like I stand corrected, 697 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.400 Gregor, we did. We didn't call it powder, we call it. 698 00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.159 But no, I you know what I'm meaning. Uniform if you like 699 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.800 cool, they look cool, don't I like it? But there's a lot 700 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.719 of you know, you got former Houston fans that that that you know that 701 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.960 Tennessee has claimed this uniform. You got tennifee Tennessee fans saying this is really 702 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.800 cool, we love this, And then you got other fans saying that the 703 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.480 Houston Texans should be the one that should be able to wear the old Houston 704 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.320 Oilers. And they'll still sell the heck out of them where either way, 705 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.719 they they're doing that. They do look good. They do good like him. 706 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.000 I like pretty cool. All right, big game, big game. 707 00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.480 Boomer clutched up for us today. He's got it, He's got it. 708 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.320 He had an interesting Uh oh god it this is the running back quarterbacks. 709 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:14.840 No, no, it was the ten most um Barnet, I lost it. 710 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.519 I had it. I had it up. The ten most um, 711 00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:25.920 not the I think delusional fan bases or what sport in any sport um, 712 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.440 I think, you know, the fan base is with the most unrealistic expectations. 713 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.519 Oh well, it just that's it doesn't say football, basketball, baseball, 714 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.480 anything said ten said the ten fan bases. Fan bases with unreal Oh 715 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:44.639 it must be football with unrealistic expectation. Arizona is not under this season. 716 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:50.639 Arizona is not no unrealistic Texas. Texas is in there. Number four four, 717 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.000 Uh, Tessa, you know you Kansas. I don't know. Florida, 718 00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:00.280 Colorado. Oh yeah, number six, there are number six? Yeah, 719 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:01.559 oh they should be number one. Florida is in there. Okay, 720 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:07.159 Florida. Um, somebody was in the National Championship Game last year. Shouldn't 721 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:12.760 have been Oh no, oh yeah, that's that's kind of like you know, 722 00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.000 hey, you enjoy your time there and thanks for coming. Ye um. 723 00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:20.519 The number one is Auburn, yeah yeah, they're always okay. Number 724 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.119 two is Miami, Okay, Florida not Ohio. Yeah, you know there. 725 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:28.519 Miami's a lot of Arizona basketball. It's fantastic bath. They were good 726 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.000 for a really for a while, a long time ago. Yeah, a 727 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:34.480 long time ago, and people are still holding the hands on it. Okay. 728 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:39.199 So one through ten Auburn, Miami, Florida, Texas Big ten team, 729 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:47.039 Michigan, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Okay, Colorado, another SEC team no 730 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.800 Texas am oh yeah yeah, another packed golf team, you silly? Oregon? 731 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:57.239 Yeah, no, Oregon too, Organs. Look at paper Tiger, 732 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.920 right, they're a paper tiger. Yeah, TCU. And then a big 733 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:07.039 twelve team Oklahoma State. You know yeah, they think they want in Oklahoma 734 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.119 State is like yeah, Oklahoma State, yea. They think they're they want 735 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.000 to be Oklahoma, but they're not. Yeah. Well we had a we 736 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.199 had all. We gotta get out of here tomorrow top there, whoever called 737 00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:20.239 us, please call us tomorrow. We're out of time. We'll be back 738 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.000 tomorrow. We got Jim Young, we'll join us. We'll talk about some 739 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.159 of that group in the seventies. But he's on he's on a bit of 740 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:30.239 a mission to get um. You get Bruce Hillton, quarterback number one War 741 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.320 number one during that time, to get him in the you have a ring 742 00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.480 of honor. He was part of a great team, a couple of great 743 00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:39.920 teams, some great offenses. You can just tell him, hey, point 744 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.760 to the basketball. Loo can tell him to the basketball. I'm those guys 745 00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:45.920 get in. He should be in there exactly all right. So we hope 746 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.000 you join us tomorrow and we'll be back with more great guests. See you 747 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:58.119 tomorrow. I'm running the people money