WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:08.679 Welcome back to give us mark. Hi'm Megan, and it is Saturday, 2 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:16.199 Saturday, Saturdayay, Saturday. That's nice Saturdayay. Yeah, and you might 3 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:20.359 be getting this episode. Hopefully you'll be getting it on Sunday still, but 4 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:24.719 if not, tough titties, because I am a little bit drunk and I'm 5 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:29.960 planning a hangover tomorrow because it was mine of my partner's seven year anniversary and 6 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:33.039 we went out for dinner, So suck on that. And I'm just drinking 7 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:37.079 wine because as you should, as you should, sort of a bitch. 8 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:40.560 There's a fly in my wine. Yo. It was just so tasty, 9 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:42.719 he said, I want some of that, Give me some of that. 10 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.200 Come here, you little asshole. I love the way how it's like a 11 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.560 thing that whenever a fly gets into your wine, you just pick it out 12 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:52.600 and like that. That's the thing. Like I've seen that before. I've 13 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.439 seen that before. We're not wasting the wine. No, not because one 14 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:02.520 fly took a nose dive for you, joking, why wouldn't he? So 15 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:07.599 you guys, we got a fun little episode for you, a fun tippit. 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:12.280 We recorded some of it and then our internet went down and we couldn't 17 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:17.879 finish it. So here we are again. Yeah, welcome to the second 18 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.799 iteration of this episode. So Megan's like, great, can't wait to hear 19 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:29.159 this again. You know it was it was It was a week so maybe 20 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:33.120 I don't remember it. Maybe this is my first time I'm actually gonna digest 21 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:40.359 it, so we'll never know. So today's episode is, in my personal 22 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.799 I feel like it's somewhat HALLOWEENI because it almost doesn't feel like a real case 23 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.560 because it happened so long ago. Yeah, there's like so much intrigue and 24 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:56.599 mysterious and so many drama cetaceans of it as well. Yeah, it's Jack 25 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:04.159 the Ripper. I'm just gonna give you a little backstory of the area just 26 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:09.680 to like paint the scene, paint a picture for everybody. So Whitechapel is 27 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:15.960 in the East end of London and it's during the late eighteen hundreds that all 28 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:22.400 the crimes happen. It's considered a very rough and impoverished area, like it's 29 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:27.400 a nice area to live in. It was known for its crimes for violence, 30 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:32.599 along with an extremely high drinking rate. The area was overcrowded with Irish 31 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.360 immigrants who were fleeing the Irish famine. Oh my god, I wonder why 32 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:44.960 the drinking rate was so high, us two Irish ladies drinking our wife. 33 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:53.199 It was also overcrowded with Jewish immigrants here fleeing from Russia's anti Semitic program. 34 00:02:53.039 --> 00:03:04.479 Whitechapel had substandard housing, like at best standard housing. Yeah, there was 35 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:10.800 a massive homelessness problem along with per sanitation. Thinking balls and attacks were really 36 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:15.599 common on the streets, and there was even some areas that police would refuse 37 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.960 to patrol on their own, Like there was certain streets that like police were 38 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.919 like I'm not going down there. Kind of get that in a way. 39 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.120 But it's like also, you're you are the law, brother, it is 40 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:32.719 your job. But okay. Yeah. Prostitution was the most common job for 41 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:38.199 women. There were common lodging houses, which was basically just a cheap bed 42 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:43.599 for the night where you paid like X amount of money just literally for the 43 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.479 bed at night, and then like the next morning you had to get up 44 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.479 and you had to leave, and it wasn't like you could rent it like 45 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.960 continuously, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you were not 46 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.280 guaranteed that the same lodging house would take you back the next night, Like 47 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:03.319 It was very watch first come, first serve, Like if you got to 48 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:08.840 stay in the same lodging house for like say a month, and then like 49 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:14.719 you you get to know the owner, and then like one night you just 50 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.800 you're really short on money, you don't have the full payment. They don't 51 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:23.279 give us a because they're like, I'm sorry, someone else gonna pay it, 52 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:28.560 so off you go. People would have to join workhouses for a work 53 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:33.040 for work and bed, but this was very very much seen as a last 54 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:39.600 resort, Like you did not want to enter the workhouse on like, if 55 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.839 you're entering the workhouse, you really cheerly have no other option. Cut man 56 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:54.319 life into pieces. This is my workhouse chores. Like women were choosing sex 57 00:04:54.360 --> 00:05:00.279 work over workhouses because that's how bad it was. The like conditions, Like, 58 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.560 however bad the area was, the workhouse conditions they must have been. 59 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:11.199 They must have been bad. If if women are choosing the sex workover women 60 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:15.480 are like, I'll just take my chances on the streets. Yeah, you 61 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.279 know, it's not good. Mary Anne Nichols was born in August twenty sixth, 62 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:26.199 eighteen forty five, in London. She eventually got the nickname Polly and 63 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:29.000 that's what she went by, and that's what she was known as until the 64 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.680 day she died. When she was nineteen years of age, she married a 65 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:39.680 man named William Nichols. The couple would have five children together and they were 66 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:44.240 doing pretty well for themselves. They managed to get themselves an apartment in the 67 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:51.439 Peabody Building, which was this newly built apartment block that was only for the 68 00:05:51.480 --> 00:06:00.000 working class with high morals. Yes, the Peabody Building. Like the people 69 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:05.399 who ran the Peabody Buildings, they were very selective about who could live there. 70 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:12.600 And you once you got in, you had to maintain a high moral 71 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:20.000 standard of living. And like some people ended up being evicted for like having 72 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:28.439 affairs and stuff like imagine your landlord is like very I just don't agree with 73 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:35.800 your morals of having men o fair late at nights to God. Yeah yeah, 74 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:41.120 well previously didn't agree with me having a cat, and you know how 75 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:46.519 that turned out. I got a cat. You're out married. I'm so 76 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.120 sorry, you're gonna have to leave or get married. So a widow moved 77 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:56.600 next door to Polly and William along with her with her daughter Rosetta. Rosetta 78 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:02.839 was hired by Polly as nanny for like as a helper nanny. She was 79 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.160 hired for like as nanny and then also like for kind of like help her 80 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:11.879 in the house and stuff fad kids, you know. Also, it's believed 81 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:15.000 that like, Polly was kind of starting to drink a little at this point, 82 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.120 so it didn't take long for rumors to circulate that Rosetta and William were 83 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:29.800 having an affair. Was William This is when Polly's drinking got very heavy, 84 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.959 and this led to a lot of fights between her and William. Polly went 85 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.959 to stay with her family for a little bit every now and again when like, 86 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:42.720 the fighting would get really really bad. Mostly she stayed with her father, 87 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:47.040 but she would sometimes stay with her brother. It's a little bit unclear 88 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:54.839 why brought At some point Polly stopped staying with both her brother and her father. 89 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:01.000 It's believed she wouldn't stay with her father because her drinking was really bad 90 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:07.639 and her dad just couldn't really cope with it. So that's when Polly entered 91 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:13.720 Lambeth Workhouse. Polline was pregnant with her fifth child by William, obviously, 92 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.560 and she feared that if she was to stay in the workhouse and give birth 93 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.399 there, that she would be separated from her child, because that was a 94 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:28.519 common thing. Like as soon as you gave birth, you got like maybe 95 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.840 a day or two days to like you know, heal and stuff, and 96 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.039 then your baby was like placed in like care and you like had to get 97 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:43.080 back to work to basically pay the debt of the workhouse birthing your child. 98 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.320 Yeah, So she decided that the probably the best thing to do was to 99 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.200 just go back to William. So she did, and she gave birth. 100 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.799 You know, everything was fine, except for the fact that she was still 101 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:03.200 drinking very heavily and the fighting William was like worse than ever. So Polly 102 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.080 decided that she was going to pack up all of her belongings and she left 103 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:13.000 William and her kids and headed back to Lambeth workhouse. Soon after this, 104 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.080 William and Rosetta left the Peabody buildings and began a life together. They never 105 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.759 actually got married, but I think they did end up having a child of 106 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:28.039 their own, and Rosetta just essentially like they did eventually get married, but 107 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.960 not for years, Like they didn't get married straight away, if you know 108 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:37.519 what I mean. But I think Rosetta went by Nichols like Rosetta Nichols and 109 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.480 answered to missus Nichols, William needs a fucking game, a Jenga or something. 110 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:50.759 He needs distraction, and Rosetta raised Polly and William's five children. So 111 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:58.840 that's, you know, not great. It wasn't long before Polly left the 112 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.559 workhouse just on the conditions there, and she began working as a prostitute on 113 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.240 the streets. On August thirty first, eighteen eighty eight, Polly was found 114 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:13.440 by Charles Cross at three forty am. Charles was on his way to work 115 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.200 when he saw Polly lying on her back on the ground beside a locked gate. 116 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:24.080 Her skirt was pulled up by her waist. Charles called over another man, 117 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.879 Robert Paul, and pointed Polly out one He was more so like do 118 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:35.000 you think that woman's dead or like? It wasn't like a like a roach 119 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:37.799 like it was. It was like, are you seeing what I'm seeing? 120 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.519 So the two men went over to inspect Polly to check that she was still 121 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:50.120 alive. Polly's thinks was still warm, but her hands were cold. Robert 122 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.039 pulled down Polly's skirt to try and give her some dignity, and then the 123 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:58.919 two went and found a police officer. They told the police officer about the 124 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.159 woman that was either unconscious or dead, told him where to find her, 125 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:07.440 all that jazz, and then they just went on about their day because they 126 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.519 were like, we got to get to work. The officer went to go 127 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:16.559 check on Polly and there was already another officer there. So between the two 128 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.799 men going to find an officer, another officer had come along and had just 129 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:24.799 found her. Right, so he sent like he sent somebody to go get 130 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:30.120 the to go get the corner. The corner arrived on the scene at around 131 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:35.480 four am and he found that and what said, last time I feel like 132 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.919 that, TikTok said, where it's like her arms were cut off, her 133 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.240 feet were cut off, her legs were cut off, her tongue was cut 134 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:48.399 off. Yeah, yeah, it's jugged a whipper. Don't hold back, 135 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.240 and we would found that Polly's throat had been cut from ear to ear and 136 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.320 was so deep that she was almost decapitated. He noted that because she wasn't 137 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:07.320 fully cold, that Polly was only dead. Approximately thirty minutes, Polly's abdomen 138 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:13.039 was sliced open, exposing her intestines. She had been stabbed twice in her 139 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:18.440 vagina and I believe as well. I am her intestines were like spilled out. 140 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:30.080 I am uncomfortable at mister Ronas. William was the one that was requested 141 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:35.559 to identify her body because they were still technically married, so he had to. 142 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.360 She wasn't fun. I can't imagine. When William saw Polly's body, 143 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.360 he said, quote, I forgive you as you were for what you've been 144 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.360 to me. Oh, I'm sure it's all she wanted in death, was 145 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:56.320 your forgiveness, William. We fucking asshole. William and Rosetta got married a 146 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.320 few years after Polly's murder. I'm William was a suspect for a little while, 147 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:01.720 but not for too long. They soon were kind of like, no, 148 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.360 wasn't you. During the investigation, Polly was painted as a no good 149 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:13.559 tramp who was nothing more than a dirty prostitute by police and newspapers. That's 150 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:20.279 intense. Witnesses told police about a man that they had nicknamed leather Apron, 151 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.919 John or Jack Peiser. They weren't shirt like, they were like, we're 152 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.399 not sure of his name. It's either John, it's either Jack. He 153 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.759 worked as a boot finisher in the area of Whitechapel and he always wore this 154 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.720 leather apron. He would use sex workers and then he would threaten and beat 155 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:46.679 them up, like just for funzies. Really, oh fantastic, brilliant, 156 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:52.240 Yeah, what a guy. He was described in the newspapers as a quote 157 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.600 more ghoulish or devilish brute than can be found in all the pages of shocking 158 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:03.720 fiction. But imagine it's not him, and they're just fucking dragging his ass 159 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:09.000 in the newspapers. Yes, I love it. He fled Whitechapel when he 160 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.360 found out that he was being like, he was being investigated, and when 161 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.480 he was a suspect, he was like, I I get the fuck out 162 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:22.919 of here. That doesn't scream innocent to me. No, you're not helping 163 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:28.080 yourself. Let that. Yeah, calm down. Annie Chapman was born September 164 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:33.720 twenty fifth, eighteen forty. Her father was a soldier in the second Regiment 165 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:39.679 of Lifeguards. Annie was the oldest of five children. Her family moved around 166 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.480 a lot due to her due to her father's job, as he was stationed 167 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.200 all over London, like he worked for the Royals and he would just be 168 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:52.919 placed anywhere that he was needed, and so for that reason, the family 169 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.200 had to go with him all the time. There was a lot of benefits 170 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:01.879 to his job. It's also believed that he got Annie's mother pregnant before they 171 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.559 were married, and so then the regiment were like, no, you don't 172 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.679 have to marry her now because work through the royal So my good luck. 173 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:15.320 Yeah. Both Annie's parents were heavy drinkers, despite doing very well for themselves. 174 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.919 According to Annie's brother, she was quite young when she first started to 175 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.200 drink and she had a strong liking for rum. Same Annie was quite rebellious 176 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.480 and she didn't want to conform with society. She was not like the other 177 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:35.399 girls. She did eventually get a job as a domestic maid. On June 178 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:41.080 thirteenth, eighteen sixty three, Annie's father committed suicide. He had retired from 179 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.759 the regiment and was doing other work, like within the army. He was 180 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:50.039 still doing work, but it wasn't what he had been doing, and I 181 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.679 think he really struggled with that and that essentially led to depression, which in 182 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.399 the eighteen hundreds, what's still depression then, Yeah, So unfortunately it led 183 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:06.080 to him committing suicide. This meant that the family lost all of their privileges 184 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:10.399 that his job had given them over the years. That's sad. It is 185 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.159 sad. Soon after this, Annie was seeing a man, John Chapman, 186 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:21.519 and the couple were infatuated with one another. John asked Annie to marry him 187 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:26.039 on May first, eighteen sixty nine, and the pair wed on June twenty 188 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.200 fifth, eighteen seventy, and the couple welcomed their first child, and by 189 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:36.440 November eighteen eighty the couple had two daughters and one son. Annie had many 190 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:41.200 still births and miscarriages over the years, and this led to her drinking a 191 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:47.080 lot to try and obviously cope with the trauma that she was dealing with. 192 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:52.080 She ended up getting John fired from his job. Yeah, she was caught 193 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:59.000 stealing from his boss. Allegedly. There is no like one on this. 194 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:03.440 I believe it's all alleged. But he did lose his jobs, so right 195 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:11.440 row yeah m hm. Annie's drinking got so bad that John asked her to 196 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.559 go join a program for seeking help with it. It wasn't like what we 197 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.440 have nowadays, which is AA you know, and it's very much like how 198 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:23.000 can we help you stop drinking? It's very it. Back then, it 199 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:30.119 was very much like devils in you you who in your blood, so you 200 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:36.000 know, not helpful really. While Annie was in the program, John got 201 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.480 John got a new job and the family had to move into apartment over some 202 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:47.200 stables, which was where he was working. Annie then returned home to this 203 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:52.759 new apartment for John's new job, and she soon felt pregnant. I think 204 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:59.599 it's believed that his bosses like. So they moved into a like really small 205 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:04.319 apartment over over the stables where John worked, and then like the house that 206 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:08.400 the like bosses was like a few you know, was up the yard or 207 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:14.559 whatever. They didn't like any They were like, m m mmmm, goodfriend's 208 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:21.039 not it? Oh god? Yeah. Annie was drinking heavily again, and 209 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.200 things got bad, like they got so bad that John felt like he had 210 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:29.519 no other option but to kick her out. Annie's son was born with a 211 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:34.480 disability and he had to be placed in hospital, and Annie's drinking got way, 212 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.480 way worse and so much worse that John told her that he had had 213 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:44.440 enough and that she wasn't welcome in their home anymore. Fair enough when there's 214 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:51.680 a kid involved. Well, yeah, so Annie found herself in Whitechapel selling 215 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:56.720 crochet designs for money for lodging houses. This wasn't really making Annie enough money 216 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:03.799 because it like it's whatever everyone was selling during the daytime, Like everyone was 217 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.119 selling like whatever skills or crafts that they had, that's what they sold. 218 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:15.519 So and like there's a fucking homelessness problem, so that's what everyone's selling. 219 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:21.039 Yea. Yeah, So she soon turned to sex work, and she would 220 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.400 also stay with men in order for them to pay for her bed for the 221 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:30.720 night. She started seeing a man, Ted Stanley, who people had nicknamed 222 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.519 the pensioner because he was quite a bit older than her. I believe she 223 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:40.640 was receiving a weekly allowance from John, but it was all being spent on 224 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:47.039 drink. Annie then got news that John had died on December twenty fifth, 225 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:52.480 eighteen eighty six, from liver crosis on a Christmas Day. Yeah, he 226 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.559 died from a disease which would have been from excessive heavy drinking. He kicked 227 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.559 her out for excessive heavy drinking, and he died from disease that was from 228 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:07.880 excess Like, dude, really, I'm sorry you died, noll but gee. 229 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:12.400 People claimed that Annie lost her spark after learning of John's death. She 230 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:18.839 became really reliant on sex work to survive. During this time, because like 231 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:22.519 she was budding a weekly allowance from him, and when he died that stopped, 232 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.759 Like there was not being supplemented anymore. Yes, so she like really 233 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.799 struggled. She was staying at a lodging house in Dorset Street, which is 234 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:36.680 not a good area during this time, and she was given the nickname dirk 235 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.839 Annie because she became dirk and violent when she drank. Ted was still seeing 236 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.880 Annie and he would often pay for her room at the lodging house. However, 237 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.000 he told the owner of the lodging house that he was to watch Annie 238 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.920 and if she ever brought another man back to the room, that she was 239 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.400 to be kicked out. Oh oh, yes, he was seeing another woman. 240 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:03.799 Yeah, good men of eighteen hundreds. Then in August eighteen eighty eight, 241 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:08.519 Annie met her brother. He was unaware of Annie's situation and she downplayed 242 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:12.359 how bad things were. He had a drink with her and he gave her 243 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:17.880 some money and that was the last time he ever saw his sister. A 244 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:22.680 few days before her murder, Annie got into a fight with with Ted's or 245 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:27.920 a woman, Eliza Cooper. It's reported that Annie had used soap that belonged 246 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:33.480 to Eliza, and she wanted to she wanted Danny to give the soap back, 247 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:41.079 and or I'm not really sure, like the details on the fight are 248 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.240 a little bit fuzzy, but something out the lines of she used Eliza's soap. 249 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.960 Eliza was pissed and was like, don't nice help even no ready to 250 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.680 use it and use another lady's soap. You don't use another lady's soap. 251 00:21:53.960 --> 00:22:00.559 And Annie threw a halfpenny at her and was like, here, fine, 252 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.079 they go, you bitch. Oh she got petty about it. Yeah, 253 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:11.279 and things got physical, resulting in like black eyes and bruises and all sorts. 254 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.799 Annie bumped into a friend on September seventh, eighteen eighty eight, and 255 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:19.519 she later told place that Annie was in a bad way, like she looked 256 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:25.400 rough, she didn't look good, she didn't look healthy, like girl Pop 257 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:30.720 was not doing so hot. On September eighth, eighteen eighty eight, Annie 258 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.799 didn't have any money for a lodging house. She asked the owner if she 259 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.720 could sit in the kitchen despite not being able to stay for the night, 260 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:42.960 and the owner agreed. Several people commented on how terrible she had looked. 261 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:48.039 One man helped her as a box of her pills had broken and he like 262 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.480 they flew everywhere. He helped her pick them up and he put them in 263 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.319 an envelope for her so that like she wouldn't lose them. It was nice. 264 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:02.440 It was nice. Around two am, the owner told Annie that she 265 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.359 had to leave because she'd no money for a bed, so she couldn't stay. 266 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:10.880 And I think she was like, I'll be beck, don't you worry, 267 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:17.960 Like I'm gonna get my money from my bed, the bitch. At 268 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:22.079 about five thirty am, Annie was seen talking to a man beside a house 269 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.799 on Hanbury Street, presumed presumably for sex work. The man looked like a 270 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.480 foreigner and he was wearing a deer stalker hat, which is like the Sherlock 271 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:37.039 Holmes hat, and he looked to be about forty years old. The witness 272 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.519 heard a witness sorry, a witness heired. The man asked Annie, will 273 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:48.279 you and Annie replied yes And five thirty am, a man who lived at 274 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.160 twenty seven Hanbury Street heard panic coming from outside, but he ignored it. 275 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.720 A few minutes minutes later, he heard something put against the fence that divided 276 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:03.680 his house or his apartment to the apartment of twenty nine Hanbury Street. He 277 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:11.319 also hated someone's shout No, however he didn't investigate. Ah, it's eighteen 278 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.799 hundreds of it all. I probably wouldn't have investigated either. Yeah, do 279 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:19.640 you know? It was very common to hear like shoutings and commotions and stuff. 280 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:25.359 Then at about six am, the owner of twenty nine Hanbury Street discovered 281 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.400 the body of Annie Chapman. Annie's throat had been cut so deep that the 282 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:34.079 coroner assumed it wasn't an attempt to remove her head. Annie wasn't okay, 283 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:41.160 He was not okay. She also had several injuries to her abdomen in a 284 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.400 similar way to Polly. Annie's pills were found on the ground beside her body. 285 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:52.720 Her wedding ring was forcibly removed from her finger. The pocket of her 286 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.680 skirt was cut open and the contents were scattered all over the ground. Police 287 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:03.559 then found a bloodied leather apron that was in a boocket close to Annie's body. 288 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.160 Annie's face and tongue were swollen, which led the coroner to believe that 289 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.240 the murderer tried to suffocate Annie before attempting to remove her head. Annie had 290 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:17.519 been disembowled and some of her intestines and stomach had been removed and placed over 291 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:22.440 her right shoulder. The murderer also removed part of her uterus and bladder. 292 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:30.400 The coroner believed that the murderer was someone with anatomical knowledge, as the uterus 293 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.559 was cut out with one single incision, which is not an easy thing to 294 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:38.000 do if you do not have the knowledge on how to do it. The 295 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:42.359 coroner discovered that Annie was dying from a lung disease and that she actually would 296 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:47.000 have been dead in a few months. Oh my god, mm hmm. 297 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.480 The residents of Hanbury Street began charging for people to look out their windows into 298 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:57.880 the garden of twenty nine Hanbury Street to see the crime scene. Lovely, 299 00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.079 you know what, we still have that morbid curiosity. Annie was buried in 300 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.480 a public cemetery, which meant that over the years, other people would have 301 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.799 been buried on top of her. In two thousand and eight, the cemetery 302 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.319 put up a plaque up near where she was buried, which read quote, 303 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.359 this plaque is dedicated to the memory of Annie Chapman died September eighth, eighteen 304 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.559 eighty eight, a victim of the famous Jack the Ripper. Her remains are 305 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:33.440 buried within this area. Okay, so loving. On September tenth, eighteen 306 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:40.960 eighty eight, police found an arrested leather Apron. His name was John Pyser, 307 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.279 the owner of a lodging house that Annie Chapman had been staying and told 308 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.640 police that he kicked John out of the lodging house on several occasions for attacking 309 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:55.680 and threatening most of the women there. He was also known for wearing a 310 00:26:55.720 --> 00:27:02.079 deer stalker hat. When police searched his home, they did find he owned 311 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:07.599 five sharp knives. However, he was a boot finisher, so he would 312 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.119 have needed those knives. It wasn't like he just was a weird knive collector. 313 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.440 Sorry. When he was arrested and brought in for questioning, the public 314 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:22.160 went wild with the news that Jack the Ripper had been caught. There was 315 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:27.480 a broadsheet which was center in Whitechapel area which read quote, they captured leather 316 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:33.519 Apron. Now, if guilty, you'll agree he'll have to meet a murderer's 317 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.200 doom and hang upon a tree. They really took the time to come up 318 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.519 with a fucking rhyme for that. Yeah. When John was questioned and he 319 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.480 was asked like why have you fled the scene? Like you know, you 320 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:51.519 knew we were looking for you, but you disappeared. He basically was like, 321 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:56.039 because I knew my name would be tarnished and I would be like ridiculed 322 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.920 and torn apart by the public and by the media, just like I am 323 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:07.160 being right now. He was cleared and he was released from custody as he 324 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.839 wasn't even in Whitechapel at the time of Annie Chapman's death. Well, I'll 325 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:17.319 do the trick and I believed, I believe he had an alibi for Polly 326 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:27.920 Nichols's death as well. So we're just gonna take a quick at break and 327 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.400 when you're back in the room. Elizabeth Stride was born November twenty seventh, 328 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:42.039 eighteen forty three, in Sarah in Starah, Tomlin Head, Sweden. She 329 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:49.039 was the second child of four children. Her parents were Gustaf Erickson and Beta 330 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:55.799 Carl's daughter. They grew up on a firm which they you know, they 331 00:28:55.839 --> 00:29:02.759 firmed mostly vegetables. I believe nice everyone was expected to help out, even 332 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:07.240 from a young age. When Elizabeth was seventeen years old, she moved to 333 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:14.000 start a new life in Gothenburg. Elizabeth got work as a domestic servant for 334 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:19.000 Lara's Olaf's son and his wife. She worked there for a few years and 335 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.200 she was very well looked after by her employees. When out of nowhere, 336 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:29.079 she just up and left the job. She moved into a room in a 337 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:33.400 lodging type house on a street that was known as dangerous. Then in eighteen 338 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.200 sixty four, Elizabeth's mother died at the age of fifty four from a respiratory 339 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.319 illness. I wonder what pushed her to move away from like a good kind 340 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.920 of job. Yeah, it's not like, it's very like she just up 341 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.240 and left, do you know what I mean? Like, it was very 342 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:55.480 like what the fuck? Elizabeth was struggling with work, and she had no 343 00:29:55.559 --> 00:30:00.319 other option but to become a sex worker. In Sweden during this time, 344 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.160 you could legally register as a sex worker in order for you to you know, 345 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:10.480 go out and solicit sex safely. And also it meant that you had 346 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:15.839 to go and see a doctor every few weeks for checkups to make sure that 347 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.359 you're healthy and to make sure that you're not like spreading diseases and stuff around. 348 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.759 However, it meant that she wasn't allowed stout work until eleven PM. 349 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:30.480 During this time, Elizabeth had given birth to a stillborn baby. It's unknown 350 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.000 who the father was and not much detail is known other than at some point 351 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:41.519 she had a still birth. Then, in November eighteen sixty five, Elizabeth 352 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.200 was removed from the Registry of Sex Workers as she got a job as a 353 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:52.279 domestic servant. She wasn't there long when her employer informed her that they were 354 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.319 expecting a baby. It didn't take long for Elizabeth to lose this job, 355 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.519 and it's believed it's because that she couldn't handle watching her employer be pregnant after 356 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:07.160 losing her own child. She then learned that she had inherited a bit of 357 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.440 money from her mother's death, and she decided it was time for another new 358 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:18.720 start. In eighteen sixty six, Elizabeth moved to London and began working as 359 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:23.079 a domestic servant in the West End. However, that job didn't last long 360 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:30.279 and again soon she just up and left. Elizabeth began going to a church 361 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.319 in a well known Swedish parish just to be close to people that she felt 362 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:41.200 like she would understand and who would understand her. She was staying in lodging 363 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.480 houses and was working as a lodging housekeeper. She was washing bed linen, 364 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.000 keeping the place clean. She was I believe, helping in the kitchen nice 365 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:56.279 and this was This was in exchange for a bed and a small wage, 366 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:04.279 mostly for her bed. Yeah, Elizabeth Metha met a carpenter, John Thomas 367 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.440 Droyde, and the pair soon got married March seventh, eighteen sixty nine. 368 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:15.079 They moved into a lodging house together. The couple opened up their own cafe. 369 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:21.480 John was still working as a carpenter and Elizabeth was to run the cafe 370 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:27.160 whilst he was at work. That didn't go so well, so soon they 371 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:32.960 closed that cafe down and opened up another cafe, like down near some docks. 372 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:43.279 I believe Elizabeth started drinking a lot, and it's believed that when she 373 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:47.279 was supposed to be working and managing their coffee shop, she was actually out 374 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:54.039 drinking. Oh now'll do it, now'll do it. So shockingly, they 375 00:32:54.079 --> 00:33:00.000 were unsuccessful and they ended up selling the coffee shop in eighteen seventy seven. 376 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:06.240 And there is a record that shows Elizabeth being entered into a workhouse. This 377 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.599 suggests that she was arrested for something. Because back then, if you were 378 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.759 like instead, if you were arrested for like a minor crime, for like 379 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:22.279 something like drunken disorderly, instead of sending you to prison or you know, 380 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.599 instead of like you just went into a workhouse and you had to work X 381 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:32.559 amount of hours before like you would be released. In eighteen seventy eight, 382 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.920 Elizabeth tried to pull a scam. She claimed that her husband Thomas, had 383 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:46.240 died in a horrific ship accident. So two ships on the River Thams collided 384 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:52.319 with one another and resulted in one of the boats sinking. Hundreds of people 385 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.079 died during this and a collection was put together to raise money for the surviving 386 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.519 family members. Okay, Elizabeth claimed that she and her family had been on 387 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.960 board, and that her husband and two of her nine children had died on 388 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.800 board the fuck. She was also missing two teeth, and she claimed that 389 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.000 while she was trying to get off the boat, someone had accidentally kicked her 390 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:23.920 in the face while panicking trying to save themselves. Elizabeth's husband was still alive, 391 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.239 and not only did the couple not have nine children, they in fact 392 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:35.880 had no children. She's brave telling these stories when her husband is literally there 393 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.880 to be like, no, that didn't happen. She went on to tell 394 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:45.480 these stories like for years. Oh she like she got caught, like she 395 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.159 was caught out in the lie. But she would still like if anyone asked 396 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.639 her, like, oh, what happened to your tea, she'd be like, 397 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.199 oh, someone knocked them out while I was on that boat. Oh 398 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.679 we all know people like that too. It's like shut up, Oh my 399 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:05.599 god, no, no, you didn't love no mitten. Elizabeth was a 400 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:09.639 good sewer and was trying to make some money this way, but she wasn't 401 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:16.199 very successful. John and her had moved into a smaller lodging house as the 402 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:22.199 couple were really struggling with money. By Christmas eighteen eighty one, Elizabeth left 403 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:29.119 John and was admitted to Whitechapel Workhouse Infirmary for a bunch iis and exhaustion. 404 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.320 After a few days of recovery, she had to then begin working in the 405 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:37.440 workhouse to work off her death for the hospital's day. In eighteen eighty four, 406 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:43.840 John suddenly passed away. Elizabeth was now back as a sex worker as 407 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.840 means to survive, and she was arrested a few times for this and had 408 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:55.559 several and had served some time in different workhouses as different punishments for different things 409 00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.800 that she was arrested for, drunk and disorderly, sex work, eliciting sex, 410 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:07.599 all those, all those. Elizabeth had started seeing a man, Michael 411 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:13.519 Kidney, and they would start sorry and they would stay at different lodging houses 412 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:20.039 together. The pair would break up a lot, and Michael eventually became very 413 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:25.360 abusive towards Elizabeth. She even filed assault child of assault charges at some stage 414 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:32.039 against him during the relationship. Okay, yes, she was drinking more than 415 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:37.079 ever and had been brought in front of a judge eight times for drink and 416 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:44.599 disorderly in eighteen eighty seven alone. Okay, all right, yep, yeah, 417 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.719 so those are the times she got caught. Yeah. Then in September 418 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.159 eighteen eighty eight, Elizabeth was introduced to a woman who ran a lodging house. 419 00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:00.800 The woman had a lot of sympathy for elizabethsit for Elizabeth's situation, and 420 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.519 offered her work in the lodging house in exchange for little pay and a bed. 421 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.000 The two women got on very well together, and on September twenty eighth, 422 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:14.400 eighteen eighty eight, the pair went out for a drink together. Then 423 00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:19.000 Elizabeth went back to the house to prepare for a night of working the streets. 424 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.159 She was seen with several men. That night, she was seen with 425 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:30.360 one man that witnesses described as clerky. Right. He was heard telling Elizabeth 426 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:36.599 quote, you would say anything but your prayers. The pair had been seen 427 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:42.360 near a shop looking quite happy. Then, at about twelve thirty am, 428 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.519 a policeman saw Elizabeth with a man in dark clothing and a deer stocking cat. 429 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.239 He was also carrying something wrapped up in almost like a small package. 430 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:58.679 Another witness saw Elizabeth with the same man, but overheard her tell him, 431 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:05.039 no, not tonight, some other night, okay. Then around one am 432 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.920 on September thirtieth, eighteen eighty eight, Elizabeth's body was found by buy Deems 433 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:17.639 Huts in a yard beside a club. He was coming in on I think 434 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.079 a horse, and Courtney like saw something on the road and he tried to 435 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.199 pick it up because he like thought it was like a pile of like he 436 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.360 didn't know what I He was just like, the fuck's this in the middle 437 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.559 of the road. So we like tried to lift it up to move it, 438 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:36.960 and it was in fact Elizabeth's body, right. He ran and he 439 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:38.719 ran and he got some help at the club because he was like, there 440 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:42.480 was a fucking dead body in the middle of the road. Someone come help 441 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:47.719 me please. Elizabeth died from blood blood loss from a sharp incision across her 442 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.400 neck. She hadn't been mutilated like the last two victims, and Pills believed 443 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:58.159 that this is because he was interrupted. Yeah, the labor of her ear 444 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.039 had been torn and this was from the removal. This was from the removal 445 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.760 of earrings. No thank you. The coroner believed that Elizabeth was pulled to 446 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.440 the ground and then her throat was cut left or right, which indicated that 447 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.960 the killer was right handed. A witness came forward after the news of Elizabeth's 448 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.079 death book. He said that he'd seen he had seen Elizabeth being attacked at 449 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.159 around twelve forty five am. He saw a man with dark hair and a 450 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.039 mustache pull Elizabeth to the ground. The man was about five foot five. 451 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:38.119 He noticed he noticed that there was somebody watching them, and he shouted Lipski, 452 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:44.239 Adam, what does that mean. Lipsky was a Jewish man who had 453 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:52.039 been convicted of murder right a couple of years before. And the witness is 454 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.760 like he was either shouting Lypsky at me as in calling me a Jewish murderer, 455 00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:02.199 like as an insult because around this time, it's not you don't want 456 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.880 to be Jewish right now, and like it's not good, or he was 457 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:15.320 shouting Lipsky at Elizabeth basically telling her I'm going to kill you now, like 458 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:20.599 Lipsky killed right, Like it's unclear, and the witness was kind of like 459 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:24.480 I kind of freaked out and you know, carried on my own way because 460 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:30.199 I was scared I was going to be attacked. Also, so Michael Kidney, 461 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:37.400 who was like Elizabeth's abusive boyfriend, went into the police station like after 462 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:45.440 her murder, extremely drunk and just casually. It was like if I had 463 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.599 been the police officer on Judy that night that like Elizabeth was killed, like 464 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:58.280 I'd have killed myself. Oh okay, interesting words, right, I was 465 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.800 like, okay, nice guy, nice guy. Michael was considered a suspect 466 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.800 for a while, but he was eventually cleared. Elizabeth was killed with a 467 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.119 different knife than Polly and Annie, and this gives way to the theory that 468 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.559 Elizabeth is not in fact a victim of Jack the Ripper. However, that 469 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:27.119 theory doesn't fully like it's just a theory. Most people believe that she is 470 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:31.440 a victim of Jack the Ripper. But he was just interrupted and he could 471 00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:39.000 not finish what he was there to do, and this led him extremely unsatisfied. 472 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.960 At one thirty am, on the same night as Elizabeth Stride's death September 473 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:52.480 thirty eight, eighteen eighty eight, a police officer was walking his beat and 474 00:41:52.559 --> 00:42:00.599 everything seemingly normal. At one forty four am, minutes later, he was 475 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:07.239 making his loop back to the beach when he saw a woman lying on the 476 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:13.360 ground. It's late at night, he can't really see what's going on. 477 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:19.039 He goes over and he has a look, and this is when September thirty 478 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:23.679 it became known as the Double Event. Okay, Sam's gonna move you all 479 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.360 on a little cliffhanger, and you have to come back next week to find 480 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:32.559 out what happens. I will lie to you the next two murders. It 481 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:40.199 Qulit possibly the worst, the worst. Oh my god. Her arms were 482 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.039 cut off, her toe was cut out, her face was really Hope you 483 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.039 enjoyed this week's episode. If you did, you can always check out some 484 00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:55.119 of our other episodes, like last week when we talked about Emmanuela. Oh 485 00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:02.280 Lordie and the Vatican Girl. That's right. 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