WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:22.039 Welcome to Chewing the Code with Mike, ben Yon Rowe and Lee Robertson. 2 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:27.199 Oh, welcome to this week's special episode of Chewing the Cud that we're calling 3 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.760 Wish you were Queer. That's right. This week we have sent Mike and 4 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:37.479 doctor Phil Away to Kuala Lumper in Malaysia. But before that, I'm just 5 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.240 going to remind you all of the ways of getting hold of us. It's 6 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.560 at the cud TV on social media where you can follow us, the could 7 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.880 dot tv for the website, and on YouTube and podcast services look for Chewing 8 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:51.960 the Cud and hit subscribe. And there's people who have commented on our social 9 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:55.880 media. Their names scroll along the bottom of the screen week over to Phillo 10 00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:00.560 Mike in Malaysia. So we're going to do it, hanppy walk, I'm 11 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:08.200 already Sweaty's eighty something percent humidity a thousand degrees see um, and I'm going 12 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:32.920 up further. Already's health to you. I'm saying, okay, you can 13 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:45.400 talk, I can talk canto. Ohay, So it's very human, just 14 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.760 said moment on the video of there. Yes, about eighty five nine humidity. 15 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.239 Yeah, okay, let's struggling. I'm sure I'm climbing up a huge 16 00:01:53.239 --> 00:02:04.040 staircase almost, tess, that's okay, Few, I'm lost in heat. 17 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:20.000 Okay, it's doctor Phil. Everybody. That's a film, big clever, 18 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.879 clever editing there because you actually said something at that point out and puts some 19 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:29.520 different audience. Can I just say not a massive fan of the rope walk 20 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:38.360 so far? Okay? This is actually in the city center. This is 21 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:46.800 okay, we'll forgetting actually rainforest. It's just bubbly, bouncy, and I 22 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:53.319 do like bouncy on things not normally a bridge. It doesn't look particularly busy. 23 00:02:53.719 --> 00:03:00.280 It wasn't very busy on the walkway, but fifty feet below us quite 24 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.759 a busy city. Okay. For there any animals in the cannopoo parrots, 25 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.479 some birds, and hornbills and a lott of hornbill, horned bills, houndbills, 26 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:15.719 horn bills. Did they make you feel welcome in Kuala Lumper? Yes, 27 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:21.599 actually very welcoming, very very accommodating. Special. Did they make you 28 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.639 feel specially in que Lump? Please? Every how did how? Did you? 29 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:30.000 How? What do we call people from Queala Lumper? Quala Lumpians Malaysian 30 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:35.199 Malaysian Malaysian yes, lumber is the city. Malaysia is the Oh okay, 31 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.400 okay, so how how were they? How are the people very welcoming, 32 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.520 very friendly? No, very talkative as well? Okay, yeah? Do 33 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.520 they speak English? Really good English? It's next English colony. So like 34 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.400 the plugs and everything, are the British plugs? Oh okay, that's always 35 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.800 a bonus, is Yeah, because I've spent twenty five minutes looking for a 36 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.599 converter and no, did you did you? Did you do hydrate any point? 37 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:01.879 Because you look quite set? I drank a lot of liquid while I 38 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:05.599 was over there. Wow. But yeah, I've not yet finished on the 39 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.759 water weather. Oh obviously still more, still a lot more on the waterway 40 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:15.800 to come. Oh how interesting you would have a look now? Shoun't be 41 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:42.959 any of that this holiday either, because it's illegal. I mean, not 42 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:50.800 to compare call a lumper to um London, but in hub in Kensington Garden, 43 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:55.319 they have like a walk away in the trees and there's a little lot 44 00:04:55.360 --> 00:05:04.040 higher. I won't this is a lot higher. This is literally in the 45 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:08.319 tree tops of an ancient forest. So if you look at the buildings around 46 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:14.639 the side, I'm at the same level as some of the building. It's 47 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:23.800 very hot. That is a tower in Kuala Lumpa Qual lump A Tower. 48 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:30.319 Shall be going up that shortly because I'm doing so well with heights, the 49 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:38.000 World's peace Gong, not as I thought, the world's biggest dong, something 50 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:46.079 very diasy mistakes specialty videos only. Now we have a large direction, and 51 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.800 on said a large direction, I shall be going up and meeting the head 52 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:55.759 cheeky Hello, I'm moist. I am Mike pinion Ron. You're watching you 53 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:01.480 in that cord. Welcome to Malaysia. We're going up the Kla Qua Lumpa 54 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:06.360 Tower, which is a massive, massive building. It's huge with a massive 55 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:14.720 head. Those of you are familiar with the show, yes, well do 56 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:19.000 you what to see? Should we have a look? How big that? 57 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:28.920 It's massive? Four angles? So yes, we're going up there, Doctor 58 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:33.839 Phil and I in Malaysia to have a look around the rest of Kuala lump 59 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:40.839 Walking on AstroTurf which has been wetted, so it's wet and slippy and a 60 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:51.000 humidity is like eighty five twenty nine degrees c. It's half past eleven in 61 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:59.120 the morning. It's going to get hotter and more humid. Yes, we'll 62 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.120 teach you more about that in that science that is, but I speak to 63 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:09.439 your later. Was that not actually somebody who wept? It was just the 64 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:13.240 sweat that it was. Actually someone was was wetting it as we were walking 65 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.600 past them to stop it from melting, not to keep it cool. Okay, 66 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.079 because people were walking on it barefoot and stuff like, Oh that's nice. 67 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:23.879 But I'd already walked a little bit and I was that sweaty. It's 68 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:27.399 like nothing was making my shoes come off. Why why I choose somewhere like 69 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.160 that, Mike, when you're when you're adverse to the heat, I'm not 70 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.399 adverse to the heat. I'm adverse to humidity. Okay, Yeah, so 71 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.600 I actually got up to like thirty two degrees and ninety eight percent humidity. 72 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:43.120 You needs that go around your neck. I tried one of those. Didn't 73 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.800 work. It didn't work. Still, sweaty mess. Did your pubs go 74 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:53.360 very frizzy? Did you not see my beard? It was? I had 75 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:57.439 a bit of an extreme trim oh later that day because it's like a fish 76 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:01.360 and chip shot down there. Oh oh, hopping sopping? It was. 77 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:09.199 Yeah, that's very clean. It was very clean, very lovely. We're 78 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.720 still talking about my pubis do we get to see you go up that thing? 79 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.759 I think we might go up that in part two? Oh interesting? 80 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.279 Why not? But yeah, we ever been in awhere that hot and sweaty 81 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:26.199 other than the sauna obviously not a sexy time sauna like them now. And 82 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.799 I've been to Australia in my heat in Australia in the summertime, and I 83 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.159 did not believe what I was told. I was like, yeah, whatever. 84 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.200 Then they were like no, genuinely, it's horrific, and I'm like 85 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:45.639 whatever. So the plane landed fine. After plane Brisbane, okay, in 86 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.360 their summer so it would have been January. Through the airport, I'm thinking, 87 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:58.320 well, went through the doors, collapsed, nowhere, nowhere to breathe. 88 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.879 Yeah. Um. I pretty much was sudden for the first week. 89 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.639 Not in a good way, Okay, get you acclimatized after a while. 90 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:13.039 I stayed pretty sweating for the duration. For the duration of the holiday, 91 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:18.679 yeah, I mean everywhere anywhere inside had air condition, which was blissfully beautiful. 92 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.759 All right. I'm to the point in the air in the hotel room 93 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:24.039 we had it that cold. I was wearing the jams. Oh, I 94 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.360 was like, oh cold, but yeah, it cares about the environment, 95 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:35.600 Mike, when I was being cold for a change, I care about the 96 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:43.120 rangutans rank that air conditioning, but I prefer to be cool. What's coming 97 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.399 in part two? Marke? Are we going to see anything silicious? Silicious? 98 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.360 Yes, nudes, but you're going to see me straddling a giant shaft 99 00:09:50.480 --> 00:10:07.000 and rotating my body around his head, stick around, Welcome back. We're 100 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:13.080 still adventuring round Kuala. Lumber rejoined Mike and Phil as they ascend a giant 101 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:35.480 shafts lived music. It's not how many floors we go a lot. It 102 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.279 didn't have floor numbers. It would have just literally you pressed uponet. It 103 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.799 took you all the way to the top. But did you go straight to 104 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:48.399 the top? Straight to the top. So here we are. We're up 105 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:58.840 here, bearish thin idea, isn't it? Oh? I don't like that. 106 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.559 I care for about it on the outside. Yeah, it's like in 107 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.559 the air. Oh no, no, there's a piece of glass there. 108 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:15.639 Okay, because also film things. It's not rotating now they have to walk 109 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:30.840 round it. When they missed, they missed, they missed a drake there, 110 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.879 didn't they what having it rotate? It's huge, you know, the 111 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.639 size of it. Couldn't not take that, o God. So the stadium 112 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.919 that you could see down there was the site of the official Malaise independence decoration 113 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:54.320 of their firsts nineteen fifty seven. Okay, who's optill in nineteen nineties when 114 00:11:54.360 --> 00:12:00.759 the new stadium opened in nineteen ninety six. So while you in Malaysia, 115 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.519 if you want to do a base jump and jump off the top of this, 116 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:07.759 how you can do? And that's where you would land if you were 117 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:13.919 so inclined or de inclined as the case may Bee. Did you not fancy 118 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.320 though? No, a lot of fancy jumping off a massive tower, but 119 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.519 it compels a bit of wind. That would have been that would have been 120 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:30.840 refreshing. Did she scream into the void? And here we have views of 121 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.320 the Golden Triangle, which is quite up as busiest city center, comprising popular 122 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.159 shopping landmarks, tourist attractions, business officers and hotels. Also lots of eaterries 123 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:45.960 along the walkways as well. Just good because we do like to eat things. 124 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:52.120 Shove them in my face. That's food, right, that's food. 125 00:12:52.240 --> 00:13:03.159 Yes, very very built up, isn't it it is? Yeah, they 126 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:13.519 have the patronas towers. Hims have been very tall and being expelled out of 127 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:22.919 a young boy's wand I think they have us beIN Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. 128 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:28.720 Is that there's that whole mix of old new So that's a colonial building right 129 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:39.360 next to a stride praper and there we have our residults for the evening. 130 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:54.480 Do I need to buy lee ah present? Actually they're much more lee? 131 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.399 Excuse me? How much other? So? Have you bought me things? 132 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.080 Have I bought you a present? Yeah? Well you go to that shoe 133 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.960 thing? I get me a key ring? Yes? Yeah? And what 134 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.000 you stole off the plane? Yeah? Yeah? What steals off the plane? 135 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.200 Is there anything else? Do you think I would have spent some some 136 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.279 money? You stime? No, I didn't buy anything. You didn't buy 137 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:28.559 anything, a bitch? Whatever? Um, Yeah, it's very high up. 138 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.519 Did you did you? Did you go swimming on the swimming pool on 139 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.639 the top of the hotel? Yeah? I did. I didn't film that, 140 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:41.240 didn't film to see the red White? No? What about? What 141 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.519 about? What about a romantic dalliance? Is that allowed there the homosexual variety? 142 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.080 No? Would you talk about that a little bit? Never? Not 143 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:56.000 even an in Kuala Lumper. Oh no, And now I'm going to take 144 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:01.240 you on a quick tour of an old market. So here we are central 145 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.679 market in Mark here since eighteen eighty. Apparently in the background you've got the 146 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:18.320 Kale Tower had some older buildings right next to the Art Deco building. There's 147 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:26.559 lots of local artists and things in here, so very descriptive building. Well, 148 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.879 there are some old buildings right next to an Art Deco building. Right 149 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.200 now, you're going to fall in love with this market a little bit. 150 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:39.360 Is it unbelievably full of tart? Is it? They call it local art 151 00:15:41.799 --> 00:16:03.759 and local crafts, insects and things, some crystal things. I'm drawn. 152 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.639 I'm not sure why I'm drawn to these things, but I'm drawn to something 153 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.000 really liked the big one on the right outside. Yeah, did you not? 154 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:33.000 Did you not enquire of the price. It's like a book plug h 155 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:53.240 h. And if you like your art really good in it, then you 156 00:16:53.279 --> 00:17:12.319 can go to the ping Hard Center because he's paying mh. So in New 157 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:18.440 can keepetting adverts for the Twitter gentleman's aid you know what I mean? Um 158 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:25.799 to make fun times more fun. Whereas yeah, you could get something yeah, 159 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:42.920 Placid Express move on. They do jump Ba sausage. Everyone in the 160 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:51.039 world has a Jumbo sausage Master Chrispy. Yes. Yes. So we're traveling 161 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.559 around this market and it's quite loving because there's big fans in the ceiling which 162 00:17:53.599 --> 00:18:03.240 are wafting. It's a wafted as we walk around, muspective white on top 163 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:17.079 and I'm not Dan Russ repellent was dried and fall off my face. It's 164 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:22.160 very lovely loss of falls. Did you did you partake in it in a 165 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.680 local delicacy or two, or in Placid Express. I don't know what what 166 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.519 was in Placid Express. It was just a chemist okay, but apparently they're 167 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.480 all called Placid. Perhaps they sell like none biagress. Yeah, yeah, 168 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.880 but on the street foods street foods, Yeah, I had a lot of 169 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.240 lovely food. Did you use over there here? So around that market there's 170 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.480 a lot of fruit stalls. Okay, So at any point you could just 171 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:51.039 go, oh, I'll have one of those glazing over at me talking about 172 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:56.720 fruit, aren't you? Yeah? Dipped in chocolate nice back in the room. 173 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.680 Actually, all the stores and stuff that had lots of ice on the 174 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:06.680 stuff, so it's all really cool. Yeah, I kind of want to 175 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:08.000 jump in it a couple of times. Is it one of those places where 176 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.920 you have to be careful of the water, okause it gives you poopy doops, 177 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:18.599 pop doops. Well, I had all of the tablets in the world 178 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.359 with me to make it quicker, to make it slower, make it to 179 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:26.720 make it softer. There's full selection. But we stayed away from tap water. 180 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:33.160 We could just bottle, just bottled water because it's easy to carry kay 181 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.680 walking around. Water in the hands like, that's very messy, evaporates quite 182 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:42.519 dribbles down his top. Yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, so like 183 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.480 any of the tat in the markets, I mean, sorry, art Um, 184 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.000 you know some of it was reasonable locking Yeah, I'm not quite sure 185 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:59.480 about the Yes, it was busy big and Quita Lumper not so much. 186 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.319 It was more about the fact he could do good portraits of people. Oh 187 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.319 okay, he shows him. Yeah. Do we not tempted to go and 188 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:10.680 sit and for a portrait? No? No, it worked out at twenty 189 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.519 three pounds. That's not so bad. That's not so bad. But sat 190 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:19.880 down in a non air conditioned room while he did it his studio and air 191 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.759 commed I didn't want to sit down wind because by this point in the day, 192 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:26.839 you know, it's just after lunch time, it's very humid, very 193 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.000 hot. Everywhere was wet. Do we not go for a little nap in 194 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.400 the afternoon like in Spain? No, No, they just can't go. 195 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.160 Well, they tend to when it when it starts to rain. We got 196 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:38.880 to sleep when it rains, Yeah, because rock on the street sleep, 197 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:47.680 Yes, because the rain isn't like rain. It's it's literally sheets of water 198 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.759 falling from the Okay, it's warm, which is quite pleasant. Again, 199 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.400 naked on the streets, Not on the streets, just on the terraces. 200 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.680 Maybe. Oh, it sounds like you had experience in smart I had some 201 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:06.200 experiences of naked rain of Dakey rain. Yeah. Yeah, we've actually got 202 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:15.519 some video of the rain now, very heavy rain that Yeah, it was. 203 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:21.240 It was, yes, scary like a thunderstorm. Though it was lovely 204 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:25.640 because it cleared the air for about thirty seconds and then it got really humid 205 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:30.359 again on like oh yeah, perhaps like the best time of you to grow. 206 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.680 Then it's always like it's rainforests like that all the time. Yeah. 207 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.960 Sometimes it only rains like that once a day. Sometimes it rains like that 208 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:42.680 twice a day. It doesn't really have a a dry season. Yeah, 209 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.279 it's tropics. It's the tropics. It's the rainforest. They call it the 210 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:55.200 rainforest because it rains. It rains. There's a forest exactly. Yeah. 211 00:21:55.960 --> 00:22:10.160 Stick around because coming up we've got more bits of qual Lumper. Welcome back 212 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:14.480 to this week's special Wish you a queer episode of Chewing the Cut. Phil 213 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.079 and I are still going round Quita Lumpur. So now, Mike, you 214 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:25.920 promise to me and Monik now I want diamonds. This is the National Palace 215 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:37.079 of Malaysia, but the king lives. It's Islamic and design habit is very 216 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:51.440 beautiful. Hi. Here we are at the National Palace of Malaysia. King 217 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:55.839 lives there like ours, but nicer, lost gold, Islamic design, very 218 00:22:55.920 --> 00:23:00.640 pretty, big place, big place, very open, splace, very opened, 219 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.680 very opened. Look around with me. Lots of things in the background. 220 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:14.279 Yes, Phil, did you go in? No, weren't allowed in, 221 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.319 not allowed in it all. It's his house. Yeah, but we're 222 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:19.759 allowed to go in, working in palace. Weren't always allowed to go in 223 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:23.200 booking a palace though, Yeah, but we are, well we're not yet. 224 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.240 So you could just go to the gates. Well, I could go 225 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.200 with that far ast to go? Oh he went to go any fair armed 226 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.720 guards probably, You couldn't look do look suspicious? You couldn't look through and 227 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.359 see the big Dipper or anything like that, either fairy swee or anything. 228 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:47.440 No, actually, a theme parks someone I was the king. Uh huh, 229 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:49.519 that will be a theme park. Okay, and you'd have a big 230 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.240 dipper. Yeah, but I wouldn't let people in it. Would you go 231 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:59.400 on it? Yeah? Okay, it's a very big big dipper. Just 232 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.480 doesn't like there's a lot of people around. Are they all inside because it's 233 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.680 too hot? No, it's it's Actually at that point in the day it 234 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:11.400 was quite cool. Compared to every other time, it was more of a 235 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.799 case of it's it's a touristy place. Not many locals go to the gates 236 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:23.240 of the palaceing of higher Ye aren't they trekking through a load of forests? 237 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:30.480 That is a prime location for a mister Whippey. Isn't it a lot of 238 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:36.519 space? They don't really have mister Whippy in Malaysia. Well, whatever their 239 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:40.079 version is ice cream, Yeah, they could have a that's a that's prime 240 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:47.279 local. You can make a mint for the seven tourists, because it sounds 241 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.279 like you're always in need of some hydration and water with me, always had 242 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:56.599 water with me. Well, so I said before about you know the sheets 243 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.359 of rain and stuff. Right, well, it looks very beautiful after the 244 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.279 rain and before the rains. I just wanted to show you the comparison between 245 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:10.680 the two. So this is at night at the top of the hotel. 246 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:18.319 How beautiful it looks. It does indeed mark it's very futuristic. Oh that 247 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.519 pole does that? Does that? Does that change colors? That the head 248 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.799 of on the shaft does change color? Depending on mood, It does go 249 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.640 purple. I did giggle when it happened. And this is literally the rain. 250 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.680 Okay, so just after it rains, you get this massive mist as 251 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:41.000 it starts to create clouds. So beautiful cityscape is all obscured by the mist 252 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.920 and cloud and then it goes away, and it goes away, it goes 253 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:55.279 beautiful again. So far slightly disappointed with a lack of the wild range apes. 254 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.640 Okay, they tend not to be in city centers. I thought, 255 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:04.440 I thought they kind of like integrated. Got jobs and ship Yeah, I 256 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:08.640 haven't got jobs on the street. Drivers and stuff like begging for bananas and 257 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:14.559 bananas. Mate, No, no, I have to go far. You 258 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.240 have to go on another plane for those Oh my goodness. Yeah, didn't 259 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:25.599 have a zoo in the in the Kuala lumpers up. Yeah, no, 260 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:30.359 it had a water park. That No, it had a water park. 261 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.720 What's in there? Then? Slides and rapids? Well, that's not what 262 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:38.640 I was did you Did you frequent that assublishment? No, because because that's 263 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.640 the what was there for. I was there for local things, local thing 264 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:48.519 local and local people will have lots of trouble here because that even we went 265 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.920 round the outdoor market, okay, and I discovered that phil really can't barter 266 00:26:53.279 --> 00:27:45.000 for for anything. Oh one point, great, Now, this is a 267 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.880 place called the clay Pot chicken rice okay. I was told to go here 268 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.440 off off a friend. Right. This is at the end of the market, 269 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.240 okay. And for the two of us to eat right, cost us 270 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:04.160 three pounds and it was delicious. It was chicken and rice and vegetable things. 271 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.759 That's apple juice. And to make apple juice they got an apple and 272 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:15.759 lit it and then I mean that's a that's a dietary explosion, right waiting 273 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.799 to happen. It was a clean through, It was a clean throat. 274 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:42.000 Yeah, but yeah, yeah. Do you do they have like there is 275 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:47.720 massive purple head spectacular, Yes, dud do you can? Can you go 276 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.359 in there and now you have a little bit of a rave. You don't 277 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.240 really have a rave up there because you're inside the bit thing that's shining light 278 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.039 out? Oh okay, so you're just in the in the vestibule. I 279 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:03.119 want to say, um, just wandering around? Do they have any disc 280 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.680 at texts? Am I any nightline? Do you have some night left and 281 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.920 disc at texts? Frequently? I didn't? You didn't? No, I 282 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.880 did not. I did not. I did not want to brave it. 283 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:18.720 Oh okay, they light on your loafers and a little bit special yeah, 284 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:26.480 or light on yeah songs. Why are you talking about my underwear? Well, 285 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.319 not flip flops. Flip flops, oh, flip flops. Not my 286 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.519 song. Tongue is Australian for flip flops. It is austral for flip flops. 287 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.000 Or I thought you meant my underhands. Yeah, but you're like quite 288 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.720 little camp things, don't you? I do? Would you like to look 289 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:48.400 around the butterfly sanctuary quality? Oh? Yes, M currently in a butterfly 290 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:55.039 sanctuary. Quite nice butterflies flapping about, quite lovely, very shocking way. 291 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.880 Um we're talking about nine percent minutes now, that's a lot going on. 292 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.680 Um, yeah, I'm good to do another. It's an even more humid 293 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:10.759 place people, dragon fly Yeah, very warm. I was just about to 294 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:14.920 sell far pretty butterfly light. You know that they're flying around. They're just 295 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:25.839 very quick. And the reason why it's so humid is because they're pumping all 296 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.559 this water into the air for the butterflies, because apparently butterflies really like it 297 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.839 humid. Well, they need the humidity, don't they not that much the 298 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:41.039 selfish wings. While we're here, might as well talk to you about the 299 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.839 rules about LGBTQ plus people in all these butterfly places, which is, you 300 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:53.279 know, lovely camp things flapping about. Actually, yes, don't have a 301 00:30:53.319 --> 00:31:03.519 great history. The LGBTQ plus rights are the instant and um, I mean 302 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.240 I still once said that if there's only two ways you get to be an 303 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:14.720 LGBTQ plus character on television, either repenting or dead, so not not great 304 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.799 or all sex with a man is illegal, regardless of sexuality, and um 305 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.039 sodomite is a word that's used in the law. It's from the British British 306 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.559 British law and when it was a British colony. So yes, there's fun. 307 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:41.799 There are gay barts, not going into any because twenty years imprisonment not 308 00:31:41.920 --> 00:32:00.839 going to be fun. Lots of pretty butterflies. Then I once went to 309 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:07.480 Chester Zoo, Wow again comparable that the same, and went in their butterfly 310 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.640 house. Giant butterfly landed on me because it knew, it knew what knew 311 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.480 that I was a homosexual, and it adorned me. And I was like, 312 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.480 stood, theyre going, what are we doing now? Then well I 313 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.279 couldn't shook it stuck on there and I was like with me forever we were 314 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:30.079 with a glue on your It was just there. And then the woman, 315 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.440 I don't think you were a butterfly keeper, wrangler. I don't know wrangler, 316 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:42.039 just flicked it off in a stick, no airs or graces. So 317 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:46.160 the humidity of the butterfly house in um call Lumper, Chester Zoo, Yes 318 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.200 you're in right, very humid, Yeah, very humid. Yeah, that 319 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.960 was not sent okay, And I was like ninety five right did they kind 320 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:59.920 of like fly? And then die when they got to certain certain around you 321 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.880 because of the stwength stench that was coming off, and just went on the 322 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.359 ground. I still smell delicious. I was just very sweaty. You went 323 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.559 dipped in insect repellent. Yeah, that's not how insect repult works. So 324 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:16.319 insect repellent basically masks your smell so they can't see you, And buttes don't 325 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.400 tend to be that can't infer. They tend not to drink a lot of 326 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.440 tourists, yeah, which is always a boner. Yeah, like the mosquitoes 327 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.160 and things which quite happy to Did you see what we've got mosquitoes with a 328 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.480 big spide, big spiders like hand sized spiders. Not really faith in the 329 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:37.720 night. No no, no, no, not big spiders. Cockroaches. 330 00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.720 Um, yes, they did have cockroaches, and they have some of the 331 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:49.160 world's biggest woodlace o big scary ones. No no more, more like the 332 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.640 small things that would kill you, run the big things that kill you. 333 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.599 Okay, it's hot, some big things don't like it. Oh they can't 334 00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:01.480 be bothered exactly too all okay, yeah, coming up next, Mike goes 335 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:20.199 on grinder. You're watching you in the cud I've loaded up my networking applications 336 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.199 and I'm ready to go. So while Phil was asleep, you went looking 337 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:30.000 for Shagrin. I'm still hearing qual lump up. And while we've been here, 338 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.800 I've been talking to some people on some social networking applications about what it's 339 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.239 like to live here. As members of the LGBT community, are probably aware 340 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:45.360 that it's not the best track record. So after asking people, they turn 341 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.880 and said, I'm not really comfortable being on camera or having a voice recording. 342 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.320 So the conversation you're about to hear i've been voiced over, but our 343 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.039 actual conversations from the networking application first person, we're going to speak to his 344 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.239 Bob. He's a thirty five year old who's recently moved back to qual Lumber. 345 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:13.000 The first day I asked Bob was what is it like being LGBTQ plus 346 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:19.480 in Quala Lumper. I'd say it's slightly better compared to other cities. People 347 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.920 might not be acceptance, but at least you can be yourself somehow and somewhat 348 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.280 so Gays tend to be more comfortable. I feel ps I've been living abroad 349 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.639 for more than twelve years, just recently back to Kuala Lumper since last week. 350 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:39.239 L that's good. Being yourself is very important. Where are you living 351 00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:45.159 before? Right? I don't like to hide or pretend to be someone that 352 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:51.719 I'm not, so I don't give here. I will also kiss my husband 353 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:57.840 on the streets, shopping malls, etc. I've lived in Singapore and Shanghai. 354 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:04.800 And what's the reaction when you kiss your husband in public? People will 355 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:14.000 either choose to pretend they've never seen anything, or with judgmental eyes shrug shrug, 356 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:22.719 shrug emoji, shrug emoji. And what would happen if the police saw 357 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.880 you'd kissing your husband. I don't think we'll be getting any troubles as long 358 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.800 as we don't or be naked on the street. I'm not quite sure to 359 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:39.199 be honest, Yes, I guess in the street is a big no no. 360 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.840 But since this is a dominant Malay and Muslim country, so long as 361 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:53.039 I'm Chinese should be fine. Right. Love life in the US or Europe, 362 00:36:54.360 --> 00:37:00.679 well, we can't treaty either. Well, at least dere's gay pride 363 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:06.360 LGBT events. In such events, there were many actions ongoing. I've been 364 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.679 there, so I have seen a lot. Lol. I think he has 365 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:16.079 been sourced to then, wasn't he. Do you think it would be different 366 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:28.760 if you're in Malaysians, Yes, Mallee will get in trouble. What's a 367 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:37.079 lot of trouble. Police might approach you and might be going to prison for 368 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.119 several days, not quite short, but at least this is what I heard. 369 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.119 I know I've been very aware of my own conduct, not being perceived 370 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:53.079 to be gay. Would you say it's easier for foreigners, Well, foreigners 371 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:58.679 are completely fine whenever and wherever in Southeast Asia because foreigners tend to be more 372 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:08.320 open minded and open so I don't have to be straight acting next less boot 373 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.800 to. A twenty year old will call Frank, who grew up in quel 374 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:16.159 Lumber, what's it right from your point of view and growing up with your 375 00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:23.519 experiences, it's all right. I think a comparison would make it easier. 376 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.920 For example, against other Muslim countries, it fares pretty well. I was 377 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.960 in Dubai just two weeks ago, and you need a VPN for grinder, 378 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.760 and it definitely felt a lot more risky and restrictive. It also depends on 379 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:42.440 what religion you are and where it comes to the law. I've seen reports 380 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.320 of gay bars being raided by police. What does that happen often? There 381 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.519 was a raid on a gay Halloween party a few months ago. It was 382 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.199 three weeks before the election, so it was mainly a political move. They 383 00:38:52.280 --> 00:39:02.719 brought all the Muslim guys to detainment. Do you ever feel like you have 384 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:08.880 to change your behavior in any way when you're out and about. Not really, 385 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.159 no, but maybe I've already subconsciously did that when I was younger, 386 00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:19.119 So now I'm used to displaying the correct behavior. I can understand that. 387 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.280 Can you see your time when you're more protected as an LGBTQ plus person by 388 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:30.639 the law in the future it maybe three to five decades and also not explicitly 389 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:37.559 protect mores just no laws are in place to discriminate LGBTQ plus people. And 390 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:43.559 that's two views from LGBTQ plus people within qua lumper at the moment. It's 391 00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.199 interesting that twenty year old is sort of like saying it's going to be at 392 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.639 least thirty or forty years, so he's seventy before he's even protected by the 393 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.360 law and not persecuted. Did you not get fed up and say, why 394 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.079 are you asking me all these questions? When do you want to see my 395 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.599 coock. No, because I started off the conversation saying, oh, okay, 396 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.000 you weren't you weren't you weren't I wasn't teasing them, and no, 397 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.079 no, but yeah it was. It was really weird because I said, 398 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.599 would be up for me for a coffee and that sort of thing and doing 399 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.800 count and nobody wants to do on camera or even have their voices recorded. 400 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.239 As I said, it was. It's really weird that they were being very 401 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.480 open with someone still being very guarded about it behind the screen. Yeah. 402 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.199 Well, I suppose if the alternative visu you get arrested and throwing into prison. 403 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.760 You're not going to up to twenty years in prison. You can get 404 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.000 I'd done no chance that as soon as I got off the plane. The 405 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.519 camp, that's what I say. You can be camp. You can be 406 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.840 camp, but no no gainness, no gainers. Right in the country. 407 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:45.800 It sounds like the country with me. Yeah yeah. Oral sex with a 408 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.639 man, irrespective of who you are, okay, right, is illegal? 409 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.920 Oh all about with yourself with it? No, not even not even your 410 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.280 round pep, not even your own, not even somebody else. Is not 411 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.039 even if you're a girl doing it to a boy completely on oral. Wow, 412 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.880 how do I say a lot of people now it's like they cut your 413 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:14.599 hands off in it. Do they have do they have like gay bars and 414 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:16.519 drag bars and stuff? They're too so glad you were listening to it and 415 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:23.280 talking about the raids on gay bars, Low Low Bolu. They did have 416 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:27.840 a gay bar, and we did get tempted to go to one, but 417 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.880 when we found out about the you know, likelihood of police been raiding that 418 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.639 sort of thing, and we didn't want to risk it. Yeah, as 419 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.559 I said, it was I was very aware that i'd modified my behavior went 420 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:44.840 out in public. Well, you were up right for a starts on, 421 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:53.920 trousers were up, that sweaty didn't need slipped and slipped out without noticing. 422 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.400 Is there no like drag culture? Do they not like have a quala lumper 423 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.559 drag race? Not really not really really a bit of a bit of a 424 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:08.480 sad, sad of affair. It's it's a very very conservative country in respect 425 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.760 um. You know, it's that if you want to have a look at 426 00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:17.079 America, America is still a little bit more liberal than Malaysia. Right would 427 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:22.039 you do in something in general, not particularly about LGBTQ. Do you see 428 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.360 like couples holding hands in the street. Yeah, okay, so they're not 429 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.480 like completely not allowed to show any exactly its affections. There are people holding 430 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.519 hands and stuff and walking around. Um, but there's no there's no snugging 431 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.400 on the street, no motor boating, no boating, no quick hand job. 432 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:45.599 Oh god, I'm a lifetime for you. I was very heavy in 433 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:52.480 the pants area, very heavy. Nice. Yeah, it's problems. It 434 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.760 looks like a very lovely place to visit, but I feel that it would 435 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:07.079 be quite repressive to actually be a citizen of that place. Wow, that's 436 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.559 almost the end of the show. Remember to join us on our social media 437 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.440 at the could tv. Our website is a could dot tv. Of course. 438 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.880 On YouTube and podcast, just search for Chewing the Card. Well, 439 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.559 thank you for watching and join us next time as we go on another adventure. Bye.