Hallo, hallo. Ahaha, this is hilarious. Okay, I think it's
fine. Well, I mean she can turn it up, right, Sarah,
you can do something. You're the wizards. Well it'll be interesting.
She is the wizard. She's the wizard, and she'll constantly fix what you've
done. Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary things that
surprised us. Around the inter half, I'm Edwin and I'm Michelle. For
this episode, Michelle, I'm going to give you a little bio of myself.
We're going back to nineteen ninety five ish when I got some of my
earliest copies of Scholastic magazines at school. Obviously I don't remember the name of
the articles and those Scholastic magazines, but I remember some of the earlier ones
that I found super, super interesting. They weren't about penguins, they weren't
about rocks. They were the ones that mentioned space. A group of astronauts
I was getting ready for a mission. I remember that kind of thing,
or maybe the Space Shuttle. I was like, this is the coolest thing
ever. And when we were asked to write about a topic that interested us,
I would always pick space. Something about the Hubble telescope, some type
of satellite. Of course, though aliens were always a thing that was interested
in. But see, there was something about space that really made me feel
like vulnerable, like we are just a little planet compared to like the rest
of everything that's out there. Right, So when it came to picking a
major once I got to college, I chose aerospace engineering. Did you know
that? Oh no, I didn't. I just thought it was regular engineering.
I had no idea it was aerospace. Yeah, that was engineering.
I did all my internships with a space launch company. Oh ala, Yeah,
in Florida and in Colorado. Now thats like, why did he go
to Florida? What's there building bridges in Florida? Like, I don't understand.
I always kept up with new on space, Mars, Curiosity Rover,
the Hubble Telescope, everything space. I always considered myself pretty logical for most
of my life, except for when something just throws me off, right,
Like, for example, the time that I thought I saw a ghost or
person that wasn't actually there. And like this thing that I've mentioned several times
somewhere already, it was that one night in my room I started hearing this
like low vibrating sound like a helicopter, and then it grew to like a
full on propeller sounds with bright lights and this bright, bright, bright light
shining on my face. I was terrified right and I was able to shake
myself out of bed, and I was still cold from all the wind that
I felt, and I ran to get my parents. It was bizarre,
like it was a weird thing that happened to me, and I forgot about
the incident for a time until I stumbled upon a YouTube video late one night
of a person that was describing something similar to what happened to me when I
was in high school. When something creeps me out like that, I kind
of back off, Oh, I shouldn't do that. I shouldn't. I
just don't want to look more into this. I'll just write, yeah,
I think I am like that. I'm like, nope, nope, what
could be the reason for this? Even if it's like, uh, psychological
or paranormal. I'm just like, give me the reason so I can like
prevent it. So you try to reason it there and then right right like
after a time, like that night, when I was watching the YouTube videos,
I found other similar videos and man, things got weird for this.
I'm not saying that I was kidnapped by aliens to sharing in experience that I
had that could have been a simple dream. Maybe reading about space so much
got me, like thinking about the mysterious radio signals that were coming out from
outer space, like ooh, maybe I don't know. But it's an argument.
Although I can counter that with by saying that I've never had a similar
experience since, and I can still vividly remember what it felt like helicopter during
your room shedding a bright light, Like this doesn't make any sense. I
found this article by ABC News. There was a story of twin sisters,
Audrey and Debbie, who were part of a secret support group, and this
thing was called Starborn. Can you guess what that's about? Lady Gaga and
Bradley Cooper's a star is Born. This is a support group to talk about
that, to process everything, to process that movie anyway. No, it's
an alien experience and Awareness support group, basically a safe space for people to
talk about their experiences being abducted by aliens. Well, that's good that there
is a safe space for that. If you think it's aliens, go talk
to your alien support group. Audria Debbie wanted to mention that when they were
kids, they would see a bright blue light coming into the room and the
door would open and they would see two figures coming in with black capes.
They were bald and had big eyes. I hate that, so I thinking
about the capes have made that very sinis right. Yeah, they're also surrounded
by a misty blue light. Adrian Debbie would call them the bald men,
although there are terms for this now, like alien experts actually call them grays.
Oh, I thought it might have been grays. Adrian Debbie claimed to
be abducted actually, and sometimes they would be on the same spaceship, saying
that they could see their house from the sky and then their memory would be
erased, but they still remember bits and pieces of it. Another member of
this group was Terrell Copeland, a former US marine, also from that same
article, and he has his own fame because there's a bunch of articles about
him and his experiences. He actually had a case. He's case number fifty
eight one zero five on the history series UFO Hunters, so he's kind of
well known around the UFO community. He said that he saw this big ball
of light that wasn't moving. His thoughts on seeing this were, quote,
something's wrong here. Maybe I am in over my head. I'm not supposed
to be looking at this stuff, all right, I mean valid, Yeah,
like I get it. Like I'm like, maybe I'm not supposed to
look at this now, Okay, I'll just anyway. He ended up recording
the light and he posted it to YouTube, and then a strange visitor came
to his front door. Uh oh yeah. He was trying to get to
sleep one night when he suddenly hurt someone attempting to get inside his apartment.
So he looked up and said who is it. Nobody answered. Then he
saw the doorknob moving and he heard scratching at the door. He thought about
getting his gun, but he couldn't move. He was paralyzed, and then
he heard a voice through the door say you don't need that weapon. We
won't harm They paralyzed me in bed, and then they have to scratch at
the door. They can't just unlock the door with that power. Were alien
power? Alien doors. Alien doors are different like you just open, yeah,
you just think like open and it just goesh. Yeah. He then
started experiencing missing time, which is when you don't remember certain hours or days
of your life, which they say that people have been abducted by aliens go
through that. Then he started sharing his experiences, and he was contacted by
a ton of UFO hunters, And that's when I said, like, he
also ended up in one of those cases for the History series UFO Hunters.
It's like a show. They actually have a medical staff, and they discovered
that he had an unknown rare blood disorder. Huh, yeah, the thing
that other extraterrestrial abductees also have. Maybe this blood disorder makes you hallucinate aliens.
Right, So in his interviews, he comes off as logical, sensible,
like he's just a normal guy talking about his experiences. And he also
mentions how previous civilizations always talk about entities from the sky to kind of make
his point like this has been going on for thousands of years, it's not
just me. But unfortunately, the article that's literally called like whatever happened to
that marine guy who saw a UFO is behind a paywall and it costs five
dollars and I needed to subscribe, so I didn't. So we're just gonna
we're just going to assume that he's got a book deal and he's doing really
well and God knows, we do what we can to bring the truth to
you here. It's scary, mystery surprise. It's just it was not just
a paywall like it was just like I want to read that article. I
would buy it if I could, but it's just there was ads in it
that I was like, why am I going to support this? Like it's
just reading these experiences from you know, about these people made me think about
my own experiences. What if something had happened And I have more of a
direct experience with aliens than what I know. So you think you were abducted.
I don't know abductor I don't know if that means actually going with them
in a spaceship or whatever, but I know that it was something weird that
really really just correlates with a lot of these experiences, seeing that bright light
in the room, missing time. My logical side gets me where I'm just
like, no, like this is you imagined, it is on your head
or whatever, But I know what. I still remember what it was like
and I can't forget it, like it's just there, it is, And
this happened the one experience that I was really searching for They mentioned exactly almost
to the like what it was that I saw that I felt strong winds,
bright light outside their window shining in their face, like and they can feel
like cold wind it's just blowing past you. You're in this weird half awake,
have a sleep state, and you don't question it anymore. And that's
what happened with me. What what are your other senses doing? Well that
all the lights and stuff were happening, Like, was there a smell?
Were you hearing anything weird? What did you feel? Imagine you're wearing like
ear mouths right and you press them against your head, so like you're kind
of like really like there, Well that's easy because we have literally the headphones
on right now. So yeah, you're imagine you're at a concert and it's
just really loud, just drum like that. So it's like you feel more
of a vibration instead of sound, but you know it's still there's still sound
there. That's what it sounded like. That's what it felt like. Temperature
wise, it was cold. It was windy. It was like this like
wind like it's just like this breeze, like strong breeze, and it was
so bright that I couldn't look at it. It's just shining straight at my
face, like it's just like like you can barely open your eyes, and
like when you can, you kind of want to put your hands over it.
Right, it was like this bright and it wouldn't go away, and
it was just like like you don't know what it is. You don't know
you can't really move that much like for me, I was just it was
more like I couldn't move like it was, but it wasn't paralyzed. It
was like I can't remember struggling. I can't remember that, But I can't
remember like getting up and moving away or stepping out to see it. Or
was there a smell or a taste? No, no, no, no,
it's I don't think I was like how do I say it? Like,
it's not like it's not like there wasn't conscious of it. I think
I was capable of telling a difference like that. But well, like yeah,
if it smelled like rotten eggs or something like, you know, like
if it smelled like sulfur, or you know, there was a metallic taste
in your mouth or something like that, you know, like there's no nothing
like that, But I do know that it was it was cold. I
remember like at that point where like when you open your window and you're driving
on the freeway and you can't you can't like breathe. It was kind of
like that. It was more like you struggle with it. When I read
that other account that I couldn't find that now, it was like that.
They said the same thing. They're like, it's just bright, like you
can barely see it. You're overpowered by like light and wind or air or
like maybe it wasn't even wind. It was like a strange force holding you
there, like you just don't know. But it really made me like think,
like, oh, this stuff might be real. But like I said,
when that happened, I just ignored it, like I just Okay,
this happened. That's it moved on until I started seeing all these other accounts.
Well, yeah, I think you just because there's no way to really
process that until you start seeing that other people have had the same experience as
you, Like you can easily write that off as a dream until you start
seeing, Right, have you ever asked anyone else in the male line of
your family if they've had that happen? No, I mean, there is
like folklore stories about how alien abductions run in families. Yeah, that'd be
interesting just to know because I don't really talk to them that much asn't like
my dad, Yeah, but like not you know, uncle's grandparents. Like
No. Now that I feel like, oh, I can re actually research
this stuff. I can actually go and find information on how this works and
do it, I find myself like kind of holding back again. I'm just
like I don't really want to know because what if something did happen or what
if this is something and I just don't want to know about it cause I
had I've had those like time skips, you know, where like I'm somewhere
and like something happens or happens twice where I'm just like how the heck,
Like I already know what's going to happen, and other weird things that I'm
like, how does it happen? How does that? And I always consider
myself very lucky, like with some things that I'm just gonna this happened and
I'm I don't know why, but I guess it just did. But yeah,
and you know what, I guess the opposite side of this, which
is the weird, strangest relationship ever, which I guess now would be called
the situationship. Oh oh, this thing that happened ten years ago now I
think about it, is this the Dolphin Girl? Yes, so I met
Dolphin Girl back when I was in North Cala, Northern California. I was
in my phase of dropping out of school and signing up for school again,
and I had met a bunch of friends and there was a group of guys
there that were into tech and everything, and out of that same group,
once I left, I got a message from Dolphin Girl and I was like,
Hey, what's up or whatever? Are you going to this thing?
And she knew that I spoke Spanish, she was learning Spanish. This is
the initiation of whatever you call it courtship flirting. She m you, she
slid in to my DM, into your DM. Dolphin Girl appeared. Anyway,
We just kept that going right and actually ended up meeting up hanging out
a couple of times, and then I would yeah, I started traveling.
I went to Mexico and stayed there for a while, back and forth.
At this time we were just still talking the whole time. And once I
went back up to Norcau, she had just gone to Spain to do the
walk coming to the Santiago, you know that thing that I did this past
year. Along the way, she finds this pamphlet. Basically, this hippie
went up to her and said, hey, here you go, here's something
information. And she was having some trouble like identity type of things, like
trying to sort out your life and everything, and she sees this thing that
basically says, change your life now, come to a meeting or whatever.
They're trying to be supportive. I'm like, I won't laugh, just tell
me like it's fine, and she's like, okay. Basically, there is
this person who's telling the truth, like the ultimate truth of humanity and everything.
However, it's not him talking, but it's him channeling this alien And
I'm going to get this wrong because it's been so long, but that lives
three hundred years in the future, and it's trying to find a way to
communicate with us now, to warn us about things that are happening. All
right, people that know about this stuff are gonna know what group I'm talking
about, because it's still active. You're always getting recruited by cults. But
anyway, this dolphin girl ended up really getting into this thing, and the
guy that channels the alien tells people basically to follow your excitements, like whatever
excites you, Like, if I want to do this, just do it.
Whatever I thought it was okay, I was like, okay, well,
I mean, if you're into that. She was like, but if
I'm the only one that believes it, I don't know how we can work
out if we don't share the beliefs, because this is gonna affect basically how
I live my life. So she sent me material like stuff to read,
and basically she sent me this video of this guy who's sitting in front of
a group of people and he starts doing this like mouth thing like like weird
things, and then he starts talking, saying that he finally connected with the
alien, and now the alien's talking and answering questions from the audience. I
found this bizarre, like we can't do that, Like you don't write.
I just love how many cults you've almost joined. There's something about this is
just too funny. Edwin almost joined a a cult, Like every fucking year
she followed through with it, like she kept, you know, going to
those meetings, paying up money to you know, go there and support or
whatever. Eventually she ended up doing dolphin communication courses. I mean, to
be fair, dolphins and whales are very smart. Yeah, are Maybe they're
the true leaders of the planet. We don't know, you know, and
she believed that. She used to tell me, like, you know,
they're actually aliens, like they're not from this planet. And I was like,
oh, okay, when I think of it now. She was what
I considered right a very just normal girl. She was just into poetry,
into singing, she was learning guitar, learning Spanish. She was just normal,
like just the average girl. And then she went the other way.
She ended up going to this stay in Sedona, Arizona. She said that
she was going to stay they were very open to things and that they also
follow their excitement. It sounds like orgies, that's what I imagined. And
I was like, wait a minute, You're going to stay at this place
where like people follow their excitement. She was like yeah, you know,
She's like so it opens up a lot of possibilities for things like like cheating
on your yeah, your I don't know, situationship partner. It got even
weirder when she said that if they feel like it's natural and right for members
of the same family to pursue a certain Wow, that's pretty culty. I
mean that. I just love how many red flags you like, not the
talking to dolphins, not the fucking your family, It's that you didn't join
the religion. It's like, what broke you, guys, I don't understand
a lot of things. Like I realized, like there's so much stuff that
is just that's fairy like out there. I never thought i'd be so close
to someone who would, I guess, be lost to this last thing I
knew about her. She was still into this this stuff. Well, hopefully
it's worked out for and she's having a lot of good times following her excitement,
which that sounds kind of fun. At certain times in my life,
that sounds like that would have been a great time. See, this is
why this is therapy session on ser your mystery surprise. I don't know if
me admitting to okay, maybe that light that I saw when I was,
you know, young, like makes that real that, Oh, aliens do
exist in alien and I was you know, you know how a connection with
aliens or whatever. Oh, and then thus it validates all her crazy shit.
Yes, it doesn't validate her crazy shit. Different experience different. You
know, you're not channeling messages and trying to tell people how to live their
lives because of your experience. That's different. True. And also I have
a sneaking feeling they collect money, you're well, we that scary mystery surprise,
do love your support. We don't quite collect money for cult activities yet.
Oh but yeah, like, if anybody has had any experiences with this,
I want to know about it. I want to know if people have
experienced anything with super bright lights over your car, over your room, that
helicopter sound like that wind weirdly, I needs, Yeah, it's really weird
because I've heard that spaceships are silent, and then I heard that, so
I don't know. I don't know if it was my ears reacting to No.
I think your experience happened to you. I don't know what it is,
but I think it happened. Ah man, that feels good to be
at least like at least to say it out in the open. Yeah,
even though I can't say that, I fully one hundred percent believe that aliens
are among us right now. It's a very interesting story. Like if you
think of it, like, oh, we're not alone with people out there.
I mean, there's other beings out there in the well and the dolphins
are here, so that's proof right there, aliens live in the ocean.
We're going to ask We're going to ask that question if you believe in aliens
in our Spotify Q and A. Anyway, what are we gonna talk about
next week? Edwin, I don't know. I think it'll be a surprise.
Scary Mystery. Surprise is hosted by Michelle Newman and Edwin Komarubias. This
podcast was edited and sound designed by Sarah Vorhez Wendel, a VW Sound