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Hallo, hallo. Ahaha, this
is hilarious. Okay, I think it's

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fine. Well, I mean she
can turn it up, right, Sarah,

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you can do something. You're the
wizards. Well it'll be interesting.

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She is the wizard. She's the
wizard, and she'll constantly fix what you've

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done. Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary things that

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surprised us. Around the inter half, I'm Edwin and I'm Michelle. For

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this episode, Michelle, I'm going
to give you a little bio of myself.

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We're going back to nineteen ninety five
ish when I got some of my

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earliest copies of Scholastic magazines at school. Obviously I don't remember the name of

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the articles and those Scholastic magazines,
but I remember some of the earlier ones

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that I found super, super interesting. They weren't about penguins, they weren't

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about rocks. They were the ones
that mentioned space. A group of astronauts

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I was getting ready for a mission. I remember that kind of thing,

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or maybe the Space Shuttle. I
was like, this is the coolest thing

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ever. And when we were asked
to write about a topic that interested us,

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I would always pick space. Something
about the Hubble telescope, some type

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of satellite. Of course, though
aliens were always a thing that was interested

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in. But see, there was
something about space that really made me feel

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like vulnerable, like we are just
a little planet compared to like the rest

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of everything that's out there. Right, So when it came to picking a

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major once I got to college,
I chose aerospace engineering. Did you know

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that? Oh no, I didn't. I just thought it was regular engineering.

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I had no idea it was aerospace. Yeah, that was engineering.

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I did all my internships with a
space launch company. Oh ala, Yeah,

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in Florida and in Colorado. Now
thats like, why did he go

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to Florida? What's there building bridges
in Florida? Like, I don't understand.

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I always kept up with new on
space, Mars, Curiosity Rover,

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the Hubble Telescope, everything space.
I always considered myself pretty logical for most

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of my life, except for when
something just throws me off, right,

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Like, for example, the time
that I thought I saw a ghost or

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person that wasn't actually there. And
like this thing that I've mentioned several times

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somewhere already, it was that one
night in my room I started hearing this

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like low vibrating sound like a helicopter, and then it grew to like a

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full on propeller sounds with bright lights
and this bright, bright, bright light

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shining on my face. I was
terrified right and I was able to shake

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myself out of bed, and I
was still cold from all the wind that

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I felt, and I ran to
get my parents. It was bizarre,

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like it was a weird thing that
happened to me, and I forgot about

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the incident for a time until I
stumbled upon a YouTube video late one night

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of a person that was describing something
similar to what happened to me when I

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was in high school. When something
creeps me out like that, I kind

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of back off, Oh, I
shouldn't do that. I shouldn't. I

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just don't want to look more into
this. I'll just write, yeah,

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I think I am like that.
I'm like, nope, nope, what

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could be the reason for this?
Even if it's like, uh, psychological

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or paranormal. I'm just like,
give me the reason so I can like

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prevent it. So you try to
reason it there and then right right like

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after a time, like that night, when I was watching the YouTube videos,

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I found other similar videos and man, things got weird for this.

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I'm not saying that I was kidnapped
by aliens to sharing in experience that I

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had that could have been a simple
dream. Maybe reading about space so much

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got me, like thinking about the
mysterious radio signals that were coming out from

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outer space, like ooh, maybe
I don't know. But it's an argument.

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Although I can counter that with by
saying that I've never had a similar

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experience since, and I can still
vividly remember what it felt like helicopter during

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your room shedding a bright light,
Like this doesn't make any sense. I

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found this article by ABC News.
There was a story of twin sisters,

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Audrey and Debbie, who were part
of a secret support group, and this

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thing was called Starborn. Can you
guess what that's about? Lady Gaga and

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Bradley Cooper's a star is Born.
This is a support group to talk about

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that, to process everything, to
process that movie anyway. No, it's

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an alien experience and Awareness support group, basically a safe space for people to

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talk about their experiences being abducted by
aliens. Well, that's good that there

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is a safe space for that.
If you think it's aliens, go talk

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to your alien support group. Audria
Debbie wanted to mention that when they were

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kids, they would see a bright
blue light coming into the room and the

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door would open and they would see
two figures coming in with black capes.

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They were bald and had big eyes. I hate that, so I thinking

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about the capes have made that very
sinis right. Yeah, they're also surrounded

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by a misty blue light. Adrian
Debbie would call them the bald men,

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although there are terms for this now, like alien experts actually call them grays.

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Oh, I thought it might have
been grays. Adrian Debbie claimed to

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be abducted actually, and sometimes they
would be on the same spaceship, saying

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that they could see their house from
the sky and then their memory would be

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erased, but they still remember bits
and pieces of it. Another member of

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this group was Terrell Copeland, a
former US marine, also from that same

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article, and he has his own
fame because there's a bunch of articles about

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him and his experiences. He actually
had a case. He's case number fifty

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eight one zero five on the history
series UFO Hunters, so he's kind of

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well known around the UFO community.
He said that he saw this big ball

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of light that wasn't moving. His
thoughts on seeing this were, quote,

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something's wrong here. Maybe I am
in over my head. I'm not supposed

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to be looking at this stuff,
all right, I mean valid, Yeah,

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like I get it. Like I'm
like, maybe I'm not supposed to

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look at this now, Okay,
I'll just anyway. He ended up recording

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the light and he posted it to
YouTube, and then a strange visitor came

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to his front door. Uh oh
yeah. He was trying to get to

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sleep one night when he suddenly hurt
someone attempting to get inside his apartment.

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So he looked up and said who
is it. Nobody answered. Then he

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saw the doorknob moving and he heard
scratching at the door. He thought about

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getting his gun, but he couldn't
move. He was paralyzed, and then

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he heard a voice through the door
say you don't need that weapon. We

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won't harm They paralyzed me in bed, and then they have to scratch at

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the door. They can't just unlock
the door with that power. Were alien

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power? Alien doors. Alien doors
are different like you just open, yeah,

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you just think like open and it
just goesh. Yeah. He then

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started experiencing missing time, which is
when you don't remember certain hours or days

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of your life, which they say
that people have been abducted by aliens go

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through that. Then he started sharing
his experiences, and he was contacted by

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a ton of UFO hunters, And
that's when I said, like, he

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also ended up in one of those
cases for the History series UFO Hunters.

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It's like a show. They actually
have a medical staff, and they discovered

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that he had an unknown rare blood
disorder. Huh, yeah, the thing

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that other extraterrestrial abductees also have.
Maybe this blood disorder makes you hallucinate aliens.

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Right, So in his interviews,
he comes off as logical, sensible,

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like he's just a normal guy talking
about his experiences. And he also

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mentions how previous civilizations always talk about
entities from the sky to kind of make

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his point like this has been going
on for thousands of years, it's not

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just me. But unfortunately, the
article that's literally called like whatever happened to

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that marine guy who saw a UFO
is behind a paywall and it costs five

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dollars and I needed to subscribe,
so I didn't. So we're just gonna

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we're just going to assume that he's
got a book deal and he's doing really

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well and God knows, we do
what we can to bring the truth to

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you here. It's scary, mystery
surprise. It's just it was not just

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a paywall like it was just like
I want to read that article. I

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would buy it if I could,
but it's just there was ads in it

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that I was like, why am
I going to support this? Like it's

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just reading these experiences from you know, about these people made me think about

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my own experiences. What if something
had happened And I have more of a

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direct experience with aliens than what I
know. So you think you were abducted.

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I don't know abductor I don't know
if that means actually going with them

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in a spaceship or whatever, but
I know that it was something weird that

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really really just correlates with a lot
of these experiences, seeing that bright light

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in the room, missing time.
My logical side gets me where I'm just

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like, no, like this is
you imagined, it is on your head

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or whatever, But I know what. I still remember what it was like

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and I can't forget it, like
it's just there, it is, And

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this happened the one experience that I
was really searching for They mentioned exactly almost

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to the like what it was that
I saw that I felt strong winds,

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bright light outside their window shining in
their face, like and they can feel

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like cold wind it's just blowing past
you. You're in this weird half awake,

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have a sleep state, and you
don't question it anymore. And that's

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what happened with me. What what
are your other senses doing? Well that

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all the lights and stuff were happening, Like, was there a smell?

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Were you hearing anything weird? What
did you feel? Imagine you're wearing like

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ear mouths right and you press them
against your head, so like you're kind

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of like really like there, Well
that's easy because we have literally the headphones

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on right now. So yeah,
you're imagine you're at a concert and it's

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just really loud, just drum like
that. So it's like you feel more

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of a vibration instead of sound,
but you know it's still there's still sound

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there. That's what it sounded like. That's what it felt like. Temperature

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wise, it was cold. It
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wind like it's just like this breeze, like strong breeze, and it was

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so bright that I couldn't look at
it. It's just shining straight at my

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face, like it's just like like
you can barely open your eyes, and

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like when you can, you kind
of want to put your hands over it.

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Right, it was like this bright
and it wouldn't go away, and

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it was just like like you don't
know what it is. You don't know

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you can't really move that much like
for me, I was just it was

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more like I couldn't move like it
was, but it wasn't paralyzed. It

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was like I can't remember struggling.
I can't remember that, But I can't

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remember like getting up and moving away
or stepping out to see it. Or

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was there a smell or a taste? No, no, no, no,

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it's I don't think I was like
how do I say it? Like,

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it's not like it's not like there
wasn't conscious of it. I think

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I was capable of telling a difference
like that. But well, like yeah,

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if it smelled like rotten eggs or
something like, you know, like

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if it smelled like sulfur, or
you know, there was a metallic taste

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in your mouth or something like that, you know, like there's no nothing

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like that, But I do know
that it was it was cold. I

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remember like at that point where like
when you open your window and you're driving

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on the freeway and you can't you
can't like breathe. It was kind of

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like that. It was more like
you struggle with it. When I read

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that other account that I couldn't find
that now, it was like that.

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They said the same thing. They're
like, it's just bright, like you

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can barely see it. You're overpowered
by like light and wind or air or

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like maybe it wasn't even wind.
It was like a strange force holding you

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there, like you just don't know. But it really made me like think,

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like, oh, this stuff might
be real. But like I said,

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when that happened, I just ignored
it, like I just Okay,

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this happened. That's it moved on
until I started seeing all these other accounts.

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Well, yeah, I think you
just because there's no way to really

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process that until you start seeing that
other people have had the same experience as

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you, Like you can easily write
that off as a dream until you start

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seeing, Right, have you ever
asked anyone else in the male line of

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your family if they've had that happen? No, I mean, there is

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like folklore stories about how alien abductions
run in families. Yeah, that'd be

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interesting just to know because I don't
really talk to them that much asn't like

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my dad, Yeah, but like
not you know, uncle's grandparents. Like

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No. Now that I feel like, oh, I can re actually research

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this stuff. I can actually go
and find information on how this works and

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do it, I find myself like
kind of holding back again. I'm just

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like I don't really want to know
because what if something did happen or what

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if this is something and I just
don't want to know about it cause I

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had I've had those like time skips, you know, where like I'm somewhere

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and like something happens or happens twice
where I'm just like how the heck,

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Like I already know what's going to
happen, and other weird things that I'm

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like, how does it happen?
How does that? And I always consider

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myself very lucky, like with some
things that I'm just gonna this happened and

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I'm I don't know why, but
I guess it just did. But yeah,

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and you know what, I guess
the opposite side of this, which

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is the weird, strangest relationship ever, which I guess now would be called

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the situationship. Oh oh, this
thing that happened ten years ago now I

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think about it, is this the
Dolphin Girl? Yes, so I met

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Dolphin Girl back when I was in
North Cala, Northern California. I was

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in my phase of dropping out of
school and signing up for school again,

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and I had met a bunch of
friends and there was a group of guys

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there that were into tech and everything, and out of that same group,

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once I left, I got a
message from Dolphin Girl and I was like,

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Hey, what's up or whatever?
Are you going to this thing?

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And she knew that I spoke Spanish, she was learning Spanish. This is

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the initiation of whatever you call it
courtship flirting. She m you, she

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slid in to my DM, into
your DM. Dolphin Girl appeared. Anyway,

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We just kept that going right and
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a couple of times, and then
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I went to Mexico and stayed there
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At this time we were just still
talking the whole time. And once I

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went back up to Norcau, she
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walk coming to the Santiago, you
know that thing that I did this past

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year. Along the way, she
finds this pamphlet. Basically, this hippie

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went up to her and said,
hey, here you go, here's something

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information. And she was having some
trouble like identity type of things, like

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trying to sort out your life and
everything, and she sees this thing that

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basically says, change your life now, come to a meeting or whatever.

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They're trying to be supportive. I'm
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me like it's fine, and she's
like, okay. Basically, there is

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this person who's telling the truth,
like the ultimate truth of humanity and everything.

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However, it's not him talking,
but it's him channeling this alien And

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I'm going to get this wrong because
it's been so long, but that lives

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three hundred years in the future,
and it's trying to find a way to

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communicate with us now, to warn
us about things that are happening. All

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right, people that know about this
stuff are gonna know what group I'm talking

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about, because it's still active.
You're always getting recruited by cults. But

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anyway, this dolphin girl ended up
really getting into this thing, and the

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guy that channels the alien tells people
basically to follow your excitements, like whatever

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excites you, Like, if I
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Whatever I thought it was okay,
I was like, okay, well,

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I mean, if you're into that. She was like, but if

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I'm the only one that believes it, I don't know how we can work

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out if we don't share the beliefs, because this is gonna affect basically how

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I live my life. So she
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and basically she sent me this video
of this guy who's sitting in front of

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a group of people and he starts
doing this like mouth thing like like weird

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things, and then he starts talking, saying that he finally connected with the

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alien, and now the alien's talking
and answering questions from the audience. I

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found this bizarre, like we can't
do that, Like you don't write.

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I just love how many cults you've
almost joined. There's something about this is

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just too funny. Edwin almost joined
a a cult, Like every fucking year

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she followed through with it, like
she kept, you know, going to

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those meetings, paying up money to
you know, go there and support or

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whatever. Eventually she ended up doing
dolphin communication courses. I mean, to

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be fair, dolphins and whales are
very smart. Yeah, are Maybe they're

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the true leaders of the planet.
We don't know, you know, and

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she believed that. She used to
tell me, like, you know,

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they're actually aliens, like they're not
from this planet. And I was like,

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oh, okay, when I think
of it now. She was what

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I considered right a very just normal
girl. She was just into poetry,

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into singing, she was learning guitar, learning Spanish. She was just normal,

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like just the average girl. And
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She ended up going to this stay
in Sedona, Arizona. She said that

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she was going to stay they were
very open to things and that they also

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follow their excitement. It sounds like
orgies, that's what I imagined. And

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I was like, wait a minute, You're going to stay at this place

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where like people follow their excitement.
She was like yeah, you know,

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She's like so it opens up a
lot of possibilities for things like like cheating

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on your yeah, your I don't
know, situationship partner. It got even

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weirder when she said that if they
feel like it's natural and right for members

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of the same family to pursue a
certain Wow, that's pretty culty. I

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mean that. I just love how
many red flags you like, not the

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talking to dolphins, not the fucking
your family, It's that you didn't join

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the religion. It's like, what
broke you, guys, I don't understand

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a lot of things. Like I
realized, like there's so much stuff that

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is just that's fairy like out there. I never thought i'd be so close

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to someone who would, I guess, be lost to this last thing I

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knew about her. She was still
into this this stuff. Well, hopefully

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it's worked out for and she's having
a lot of good times following her excitement,

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which that sounds kind of fun.
At certain times in my life,

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that sounds like that would have been
a great time. See, this is

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why this is therapy session on ser
your mystery surprise. I don't know if

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me admitting to okay, maybe that
light that I saw when I was,

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you know, young, like makes
that real that, Oh, aliens do

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exist in alien and I was you
know, you know how a connection with

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aliens or whatever. Oh, and
then thus it validates all her crazy shit.

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Yes, it doesn't validate her crazy
shit. Different experience different. You

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know, you're not channeling messages and
trying to tell people how to live their

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lives because of your experience. That's
different. True. And also I have

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a sneaking feeling they collect money,
you're well, we that scary mystery surprise,

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do love your support. We don't
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Oh but yeah, like, if
anybody has had any experiences with this,

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I want to know about it.
I want to know if people have

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experienced anything with super bright lights over
your car, over your room, that

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helicopter sound like that wind weirdly,
I needs, Yeah, it's really weird

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because I've heard that spaceships are silent, and then I heard that, so

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I don't know. I don't know
if it was my ears reacting to No.

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I think your experience happened to you. I don't know what it is,

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but I think it happened. Ah
man, that feels good to be

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at least like at least to say
it out in the open. Yeah,

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even though I can't say that,
I fully one hundred percent believe that aliens

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are among us right now. It's
a very interesting story. Like if you

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think of it, like, oh, we're not alone with people out there.

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I mean, there's other beings out
there in the well and the dolphins

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are here, so that's proof right
there, aliens live in the ocean.

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We're going to ask We're going to
ask that question if you believe in aliens

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in our Spotify Q and A.
Anyway, what are we gonna talk about

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next week? Edwin, I don't
know. I think it'll be a surprise.

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Scary Mystery. Surprise is hosted by
Michelle Newman and Edwin Komarubias. This

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podcast was edited and sound designed by
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