WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:08.839 You're listening to Wake Up Call on Demand from kf I AM six forty kf 2 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:15.199 I hand KOST HD two, Los Angeles, Orange County. It's time for 3 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:26.559 your morning wake up call. Here's Jason Middleton. Good morning everybody. Yes, 4 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:31.719 Wednesday, July nineteen, You made it. You made it to Wednesday. 5 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:37.880 Got a big show today, got a lot of news, a lot 6 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:41.079 of cool interviews too. Before we get into hand along the news at six 7 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:45.200 o'clock, of course, we're gonna talk about the soldier who crossed in North 8 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:49.799 Korea. We also have Wired Wednesday with Richard Murrow and well we have Jane 9 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:57.560 Wells as well, and some Tupac Shakur developments. And before we get going, 10 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.479 though we were coming, we're talking about our first jobs ever. And 11 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.200 I realized that my first job ever was delivering morning newspapers. So I was 12 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.439 about thirteen, maybe fourteen years old, and I was getting up at three 13 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:14.560 am to go to work. And here I am, seventy eight years later, 14 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:19.040 still getting up three am to go to work, talking to the our 15 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.280 engineer, Steve Kono, and mister Kono his first job was a bad boy 16 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.719 as beats mined by a Ton shout out to the Illan Empire. Suci six 17 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.480 ers for that one. Right on, Thank you, Cono. All right, 18 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.920 let's get into a couple of headlines before we get into the KFI newsroom 19 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.760 headlines. The mother of a US soldier who crossed into North Korea says she 20 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:41.400 shocked and just wants her son to come home. Meta is rolling out a 21 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:45.840 free AI to rival chat GPT for both consumers and businesses. We'll talk with 22 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.319 Bitch Dumurro about that. Las Vegas police say they executed a search warrant Monday 23 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.400 in the murder of rapper Tupac Shakur. Now, let's start with some of 24 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:57.280 those stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. The LAPD says 25 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:02.200 it will continue to predict protected illegal immigrants from answering questions about their status. 26 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.039 The department's Special Order forty prohibits officers from asking about a person's background, country 27 00:02:07.080 --> 00:02:12.520 of origin, or immigration status. Assistant Chief Alebrato told the Police Commission yesterday 28 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.840 there are some exceptions line crime, gang crime, weapons violation, narcotics, 29 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:21.719 trafficking, human trafficking, child pornography. Lebrata says the department still does not 30 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.680 cooperate with officials for deportation orders. He says in twenty twenty two, federal 31 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:30.199 agents made seven hundred and eighty three requests to hold an illegal immigrant for deportation, 32 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.319 but honored none of them. Steve Gregory can if I knows. Top 33 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:38.360 Republicans on Capitol Hill are standing by former President Trump, who could be facing 34 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:42.520 another federal indictment. Trump announced yesterday he got a letter saying he was the 35 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:47.520 target of adj investigation into efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election. Trump criticized 36 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:52.719 the investigation while at a campaign event in Iowa. If you say something about 37 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:53.879 an election, they want to put you in jail for the rest of your 38 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.560 life. It's a disgrace. He also called it election interference. Police are 39 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.000 trying to find a man they say tried to rape three women in LA and 40 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.919 East LA on the same day. At least one of the women, twenty 41 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.719 one year old Sergio Garcia's accused of attacking, is a sixty seven year old 42 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:12.840 who was gardening. The Woman's son in law, Gilbert Corio, says Garcia 43 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.319 through the woman to the ground Saturday and punched her in the face several times. 44 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:21.080 He tried to proceed to sexually assault her, at which point the neighbor's 45 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:23.840 catto windowville was happening. They came out, they intervened, and at that 46 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:28.159 point the individual pretty much ran away in his bike. The woman suffered a 47 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.360 concussion and broken nose. Her eyes were left swollen shut in East La Blake 48 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:36.240 Trolley k if I News. An ozone advisory for much of the South Coast 49 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.719 air Basin and Coachella Valley has been extended because of the heat. It was 50 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:43.319 supposed to expire last night, but it is now in effect through eight pm 51 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.840 Saturday. The AQMD says over the past few days, air quality index levels 52 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:53.199 have reached unhealthy in most inland areas and very unhealthy in some localized areas. 53 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:58.759 Because of the prolonged heat wave, high interest rates and gunshy lenders have led 54 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:02.080 to a spike in the number of home loan application rejections. The rejection rate 55 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.159 jumped to just under twenty two percent, so one out of every five from 56 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:09.919 June of twenty twenty two to June of twenty twenty three. The latest Federal 57 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:14.520 Reserve survey says that's the highest level in five years. Overall credit applications are 58 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.000 down to their lowest level since October twenty twenty, and the FED says the 59 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.120 number of auto loans being turned down is also up from nine point one to 60 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:25.079 fourteen point two percent. The FED survey showed not only were home loans and 61 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:29.639 car loans being rejected at higher rates, a record number of applicants expected to 62 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.439 be turned down. Amy King, KFI News and a couple of short minutes. 63 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:34.800 The first topic on wake Up Call is going to be the unfolding and 64 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.839 rather strange story from North Korea and the soldier who apparently crossed the DMZ by 65 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.720 choice. But first from the Southern California Toyota Dealers Traffic Center. Let's go 66 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:48.199 places, and let's check the ninety one in Anaheim westbound at Tusted. You've 67 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:51.639 got to crash off to the shoulder. Watch for slowing as you approach Corona. 68 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.759 The fifteen northbound between Hidden Valley Parkway and Second Street or works on blocking 69 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.720 the two right lanes. And as you make your way through Compton this morning. 70 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:01.319 This in ten south on at Laundre, you've got a crash blocking the 71 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.680 left lane. Traffic slow there as you approach as well, Kay, fine, 72 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:10.279 the sky helps get you there faster I'm Dave Joseph all R. Right 73 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:13.240 now. A US Army private who had just finished a stint in a South 74 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:17.279 Korean detention facility crossed the border in North Korea quote without authorization end quote, 75 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.639 and is now in custody in that country. Traffic's over. ABC's Matt Seiler 76 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.160 is on the line with us to help unpack this developing and somewhat odd story. 77 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.360 Good morning, sir, Hey, good morning, Thanks so much for 78 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.759 having me. Absolutely Okay. His name is Travis King. He's twenty three. 79 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:39.040 What else do we know this morning? So he served as a scout 80 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.720 in the cavalry scout in the Army. He's a junior enlisted soldier. So 81 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.040 he had gotten into some kind of trouble out in town. It sounds like 82 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.199 yet an altercation with locals. That's what led him to do that stint, 83 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.120 which turned out to be forty five days in a South Korean detention facility. 84 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.319 So he did his time. He was released to a US base who was 85 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.560 there for about a week under observation, at which point he was escorted to 86 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:02.959 the airport. From there he was supposed to fly and end up in Fort 87 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:06.480 Bliss, Texas, where he was most likely going to be administratively separated, 88 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:11.120 which means the army was probably going to kick him out of the service basically, 89 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.199 but that didn't happen. Of course, his handlers, his escort took 90 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.399 him as far as the customs or security checkpoint at the airport sent him through. 91 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:23.560 He didn't get on that plane. He at some point got out of 92 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:28.360 the airport, ended up on a tour of the DMZ and from there deliberately, 93 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.160 as you said, the military is very clear about this, he deliberately, 94 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:35.839 willfully crossed that line into North Korea, where they believe he's still under 95 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:42.439 custody. Matt, I'm confused. The pressure point here seems to be the 96 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.720 transfer at the airport, right an opportunity for him to find some kind of 97 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.160 We don't have any information about that. Is it customary to just drop off 98 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.040 a soldier who has to go back to Fort Bliss and just say okay, 99 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:57.240 good luck and get on the plane. So in this case, it wasn't 100 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.240 as if it's a prisoner transport, in which you know, you would have 101 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.000 an escort all the way to the gate, if not on the flight. 102 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.160 So he had served his time in South Korea, so in some sense, 103 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:10.160 he was kind of a free man, even though what waited him in Texas 104 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:15.560 was most likely a discharge of some sort. So it makes sense to a 105 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.199 degree, you know, and the escort doesn't have tickets. They take him 106 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.600 as far as they can into the airport and then it's on him to get 107 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:25.319 on that flight. And from officials, I've talked two here around the building 108 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.519 at the Pentagon, they said, you know, there was no indication that 109 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.360 a flight risk or anything like that. And you know, no one would 110 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:35.120 anticipate a young American serviceman would put it this way. We've heard harrowing tales 111 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.759 of people escaping from North Korea, but escaping into North Korea is another thing 112 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.360 entirely now that that is quite odd and unexpected. But that's what he did. 113 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.959 Apparently found his way onto a tour, jumped across that line. Yeah, 114 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.040 okay, let's talk about that. We're speaking with ABC's Matt Siler about 115 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.680 the North Korean soldier or the soldier who defected or without authorization, crossed the 116 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:01.079 DMZ into North Korea. His second choice was to from the tour that he 117 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.920 was on at the time. Do we know any details about that situation? 118 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:09.199 Right? So there are some eyewitnesses, you know, unconfirmed reports that we've 119 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:13.079 heard from people on the ground that you know, they witnessed him run across. 120 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.040 There might have been some attempt from from guards on the South Korean side 121 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.160 to maybe halt him and didn't get to him in time. That's not totally 122 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.720 clear. But he was taken into custody by the North Koreans on the other 123 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.519 side of that line. Now what happens next to him, you know, 124 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.120 that's hard to say. There's some precedent. We had the instance in twenty 125 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:35.519 sixteen of an American being held in North Korea, that being Auto warm Beer, 126 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.200 whom was released about a year later in twenty seventeen in a vegetative state 127 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.320 and brought back to the United States, which he soon died after that. 128 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.799 So some rather dark precedent. I you know, you can't imagine what would 129 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.720 what would be in someone's head to make this decision, Right, was when 130 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.440 was the last affection by a US soldier or I'm using the defection were just 131 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.240 as a not as a value judgment. I'm just saying that like the last 132 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:07.799 time a US soldier liberated themselves into North Korea? Right, If I'm not 133 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.360 mistaken, off the top of my head, I believe there's not a case 134 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.519 of that since the nineteen sixties, and then whether there were a few a 135 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.840 cluster of them in the nineteen sixties, and I believe only one of them 136 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.720 made it back to the United States and then was core marshaled upon arrival. 137 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.519 So it's an odd occurrence. Now the US has a couple of options to 138 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.000 exercise in terms of getting them back that the US doesn't have open diplomatic relations 139 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.080 with North Korea, of course, but Sweden does, and in the past 140 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.960 the US has been able to use Sweden as an intermediary to secure some limited 141 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.480 consular services for people inside North Korea. So there's some chance of doing that. 142 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.440 But the State Department sort of signaled yesterday that you know, at this 143 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.480 point they have no reason to believe that Private King wants to come back, 144 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.039 and so the Biden administration might temper their efforts based on that. Right, 145 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.320 Matt, One last question, and the reason I was being careful with the 146 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.320 word defection because that has a certain connotation to it, and I have to 147 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.240 be very careful around that because it depends on how North Korea treats this, 148 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.320 right. I mean, if they treat it like a defection, it could 149 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.080 go one way. If they treat it like a diplomatic opportunity, it could 150 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.519 go a different way. Right, is that how the State Department might see 151 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.919 it, well, defection it might have more to do with the motivation of 152 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.679 the person. Assessing the motivation why that person left and how they're treated after 153 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.639 that is a different matter with North Korea. I mean, another big point 154 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.679 here though, is that this whole story is overshadowed which would have been the 155 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.279 big story of the day, which is that for the first time in over 156 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:43.039 forty years, the US had just sent a nuclear capable submarine support in South 157 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.000 Korea, which is meant to be a big sign of hey, we have 158 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.960 your back, would take security in the region seriously and also a signal to 159 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:54.440 deter North Korea from aggression in the region. And then whence in this same 160 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.919 period we have this story breaking, right with a US service member, an 161 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:03.120 active duty service member willingly crossing into North Korea, and then North Korea shortly 162 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.360 after that sub's arrival also launching to sure arrange ballistic missiles into the Sea of 163 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.559 Japan. So it's just been a kind of a frenetic wild twenty four or 164 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:16.159 so hours on the peninsula. A couple of really strong story threads to follow. 165 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.360 Thanks for your time and expertise around this. Matt Tyler and he's sign 166 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:26.399 ABC's Matt Siler. They're joining us talking about the soldier who split and left 167 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.840 a tour across the DMZ at Panmun John and went into North Korea. A 168 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.039 lot to follow there. Let's get back to some of those stories coming out 169 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.759 of the KFI twenty far our newsroom before we go to break. A billboard 170 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.080 in San Pedro has been taken down after years of complaints to the city Councilman 171 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.320 Tim mccoscar says the sign was blocking a pedestrian bridge and was used as a 172 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:50.120 hideout for people up to no good drug sales, malicious damage to the public 173 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.200 property, which is the bridge, and the bridge is constantly behind the sign. 174 00:11:54.279 --> 00:12:00.000 Only behind the sign was constantly filled with graffiti and drug paraphernalia. Mccoscars 175 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:01.759 as, the company that owned the billboard, was supposed to take it down 176 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.080 when their lease was up last year, but they waited months before removing it. 177 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.679 This week, two people were hurt while working to take down the billboard. 178 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.399 The crane being used collapsed yesterday, causing the workers to fall about twenty 179 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.799 feet. The extent of their injuries was not immediately known. San Clementi has 180 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:22.000 hired private security in response to complaints about the homeless and rowdy teens who attacked 181 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:28.279 three marines, loitering, sleeping on the beach, illegal activities, drugs, 182 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.000 and such Sant Clementi councilman Rick Lefler says the city had wanted to wait to 183 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.960 hire more deputies, but when the marines were attacked over Memorial Day weekend, 184 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.200 certainly a major embarrassing issue. Four unarmed guards started this week at seventy thousand 185 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.000 dollars per month for six months to keep order and help with the homeless. 186 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.600 Refer to these people to resources, whether it be drug rehabilitation, possible housing 187 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.600 sources, even colin a relative and saying hey, do you know your uncle 188 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.919 is down here and could use some help. In Orange County, Corbin Carson 189 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:01.279 kf I News, Sixteen people in Michigan have been charged with felony election crimes. 190 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.840 Attorney General Dana Nessel says the people charged knowingly tried to circumvent the will 191 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:11.879 of Michigan voters after the twenty twenty presidential election by signing documents attesting to being 192 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:18.000 duly elected and qualified presidential electors. After signing these fraudulent electoral documents, some 193 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.000 of the false electors attempted to enter the state capital and deliver their fabricated electoral 194 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.039 votes to the Senate floor, but were turned away. She says the charges 195 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:31.559 are not political. A first jan first generation iPhone has sold at auction for 196 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.799 more than one hundred and ninety thousand dollars. It's sold for about five hundred 197 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.399 bucks when it was first available back in two thousand and seven. It had 198 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.600 every bit of four gigabytes in it and was discontinued two months after it was 199 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:48.799 released. An eight gigabyte model sold for over sixty three thousand dollars in February. 200 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:52.159 Right now, we have Rich Dumurou. He's KTLA's tech reporter. Of 201 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.919 course, he's also host of Rich on Tech right here on KFI. Saturday's 202 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.559 eliminate them to two pm. Good warning, Rich, always a pleasure. 203 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.080 Hey, good morning to Jason. Let's jump into the meta AI thing because 204 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.919 that's kind of a that might be a transitional thing that's larger than we might 205 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:13.399 have first thought. Yeah, this is pretty big. So Meta has announced 206 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.960 that they have a new AI system called Lama two. They used to have 207 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:20.559 one called Lama while they've been called Lama one, it was just Lama AI. 208 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.120 But Lama two is of course much more advanced. But here's the thing. 209 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.559 It is open source, which means anyone can jump in and look under 210 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:33.559 the hood and see what makes this AI tick. And they're giving it away 211 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:39.679 for free, which means that startups, companies, pretty much anyone can tap 212 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:45.480 into this and use it to build whatever they want, which is huge compared 213 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:50.399 to closed systems from Google and from open Ai, which you can play with 214 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.000 and use, but if you want to use it in your commercial apps, 215 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.879 you're gonna have to pay up, Okay, So this kind of solidifies Microsoft 216 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:01.080 right is a benchmark for AI given its relationship with chat GPT. Yeah, 217 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:07.039 which is kind of interesting because Microsoft is really really embracing this. They have 218 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:13.320 a partnership where Microsoft developers can easily access this new Lama two. But it's 219 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.200 interesting because Microsoft is also a big investor in open Ai, which are the 220 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.279 makers of chat GBT, so now they're kind of playing with both maybe hedge 221 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:28.080 in their bets and it's an interesting move by Microsoft, because why would you 222 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.639 choose open AI system versus this new meta system when you get one for free 223 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.320 and not the other. Now, I'm sure they each have their own pros 224 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.639 and cons, but the reality is if you're a startup and you're sitting there 225 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.120 saying, let me, let me start with this one and then maybe we'll 226 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:46.080 see what we can do. There is one distinction, Jason, which is 227 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.320 kind of interesting that to use this for free, your company cannot have more 228 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.759 than seven hundred million active users, and so that means that it will keep 229 00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:00.200 things like Twitter out for free. They they would have to pay right app 230 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:04.799 too, right because Snap is over seven hundred million monthly. You know, 231 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.000 I don't know if they have that many yet. I you know, I 232 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.399 should know this because I just did a story with them and they were talking 233 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.360 about their monthlies. But it may be that. I think. I think 234 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.559 the larger question I should have asked is there's no such thing as a free 235 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:21.919 lunch. These things are free right now, but they're not going to stay 236 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.919 free, right I mean, there's no way. Well, uh, you 237 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:30.360 know, we've seen a history on the web of open source and free products. 238 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.080 What we typically see is a level of free and then all of a 239 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.080 sudden they'll start building little things on top that's like a value add So if 240 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.360 you've ever gone to like a website to build like a personal website, yeah, 241 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:42.840 you can get a free version. But if you want this, this, 242 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.440 and that, well guess what you're gonna pay. It's called the freemium 243 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.240 model. And I think that's what Facebook is doing here. Okay, great, 244 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:52.039 and one more quick question about this and we'll move to Gmail, Apple, 245 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.320 Spotify, Rise, and a couple of others don't let their employees use 246 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.360 chat GPT. Will that situation be different? Do you think with this since 247 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:06.920 it's open source? You know what? Maybe just because they can control better 248 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.240 control. I think what these companies want to do is they want to come 249 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.720 up with their own systems that they can control what goes in, what goes 250 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.480 out. And I think that's the big name of the game there. And 251 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:19.319 it's also early. You know that if you put something into one of these 252 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.119 systems, it sort of goes into the hopper I call it, you know, 253 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.079 like your information, whatever you put in is now part of that learning 254 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.960 curve for that you know that AI. So that's why companies like Microsoft and 255 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:36.079 all these other companies don't want their sorry, Microsoft, Apple, don't want 256 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:40.640 their employees using it because they may put some proprietary information in there that someone 257 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:42.160 else can then access. Right on. Okay, thank you for that. 258 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:47.119 M Yesterday afternoon, I was logging into my Gmail and I got, hey, 259 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:48.480 do you want to do safer browsing? And I didn't. I didn't 260 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.359 click on it because I knew I was going to talk to you today. 261 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.319 What's the deal with the security that they're trying to enhance. Yeah, a 262 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.559 lot of people have questions about this because it did pop up on Gmail. 263 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.880 This has been a feature that is has been available on Chrome for a long 264 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.599 time, and so now they're rolling it out to Gmail. And what it 265 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:12.720 does is it allows Google to check your links in real time and the contents 266 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:18.759 of your email against the database of other emails and other links to make sure 267 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:23.440 that there's no malware, there's no phishing. So it's additional protection. Now, 268 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.519 if you don't say yes, they check your information against a database that's 269 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.000 about thirty minutes old. So if you say yes, they're going to check 270 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.720 against the database that's in real time. And Jason, the real time aspect 271 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:40.599 is let's say a spammer sends out, you know, ten thousand email spam 272 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:45.160 messages in you know, all of a sudden, right, and a lot 273 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.359 of people start reporting on that, Hey, report spam, report spam. 274 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.960 Well after like the one hundredth person reports it in a minute, let's say 275 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.640 Google's little systems say, oh, we got new spam. Here's what it 276 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.720 looks like, here's where it comes from. And so if you're on this 277 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:03.640 enhanced safe browsing, immediately when they check that email in your box, they'll 278 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.000 say, oh, we already know that this is bad. But if you're 279 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.359 on the regular, if you don't turn this on, it'll be updated, 280 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.079 but in a half an hour, so it's more real time with Google. 281 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.319 And of course the downside to all of this is that you do have to 282 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.279 share a bit more information with Google because they're using your data to crowdsource these 283 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:23.119 safety warnings, right. That seems to be the sop with Google, doesn't 284 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:26.119 it. So yeah, pretty much, that's okay. But I mean it's 285 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.359 it's a free service, so it's it's a known transaction. You're getting a 286 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.960 lot of value for that as long as you're willing to trade some of your 287 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.400 personal data. So yeah, and I think that I think in general it's 288 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:38.359 it's Google. I've met with the team that actually came up with this, 289 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:41.480 and I believe me, they are very, very good and this has saved 290 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.160 a lot of people from a lot of bad stuff. So it's probably worth 291 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.920 it to turn it on. If you're a little bit advanced, a little 292 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.519 bit tech savvy, then maybe you could just leave it off. But I 293 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.559 think for the average person, it's probably a good thing to have that big 294 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:59.440 red warning when you open an email that says, warning, do not click 295 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:02.519 the links in this has been identified as spam. Yeah, very cool. 296 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:03.559 Okay, at the break, I'm going to turn this on, but I 297 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:08.000 wanted to talk with you first. AI head shots. Now, these are 298 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.119 not selfies necessarily, and I've seen your website. I mean, you know 299 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.720 it's it's your head shots are elegant, all right? Now? Can AI 300 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.880 help mine look elegant? Oh, Jason, I'm not kidding. You gotta 301 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:25.839 do this today. I'm this is this is incredible. So this is an 302 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:30.799 app called Remedy, and it's a it's an app that you upload about twelve 303 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.319 selfies. And we've seen all the AI generated stuff, right, like, 304 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.920 we know about that yeah, but this one helps you create a head shot 305 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.519 and so you upload twelve selfies. I did it yesterday. It is quite 306 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.079 incredible. It takes about fifteen to twenty minutes for them to generate your head 307 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.559 shot, but it is really really good. Um. I did it with 308 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.079 myself and it I think the pictures looked pretty good. And then I had 309 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.279 my photographer here at KTLA. I said, hey, Luise, you want 310 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:57.599 to you want a new head shot? He said sure, and I'm not 311 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:02.279 kidding. Twenty minutes later, the guy's never looked better. I mean, 312 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:06.000 it's incredible like these, and you can choose the pose you want too, 313 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:07.880 so you can have you know, in a suit. I mean, it's 314 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.880 really really good that the trick is Jason. You have to sign up for 315 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.240 a three day trial. After that, if you don't cancel, it's ten 316 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.400 dollars a week. So the name of the game of this app is really 317 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.039 to get people to forget to cancel. So don't forget to cancel exactly, 318 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.240 right, Yeah, would you set a calendar reminder to opt out after about 319 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.279 forty eight seventy two hours? Right, So, well, I'll take it 320 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:33.039 even a step further. My trick is you just cancel immediately before you even 321 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:34.799 use the app. So sign up for the free trial, go into your 322 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:38.720 settings and cancel, and you still have access for the next three days, 323 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.240 So so that way you don't forget. You were super cool with the first 324 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.680 results you got back after fifteen minutes or twenty minutes of processing. Oh my 325 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.000 gosh, I'm not kidding. And the pictures that I submitted were just all 326 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:53.599 random selfies that I had taken before, and I mean, it's really quite 327 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.279 impressive. And the thing is, Jason, if it's this good right now, 328 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.519 this is a free app, and we are just at the beginning of 329 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:06.160 all this AI stuff. Imagine in a year where this will be and it's 330 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:11.079 just getting to the point where you really almost can't believe what you see online 331 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.400 because of this stuff. Amazing stuff. Rich always a pleasure and when I 332 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.039 anchor on Saturdays, the time just flies because I'm on the same time you 333 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.720 are. You're on from Saturdays from eleven am to two pm. He's KTLA 334 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.279 tech reporter Rich de Murrow. He's host of Rich on Tech. Like I 335 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.839 said, Saturdays on K five. You can follow Rich on Instagram at rich 336 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.400 on Tech, and his website is Rich on tech dot TV. See I 337 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:36.240 got that, Bill didn't get that yesterday. It's dot TV. Yes, 338 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.160 thanks Rich always a pleasure. Thanks, thanks, Jason, appreciate it. 339 00:22:40.200 --> 00:23:03.440 See you Saturday. All right, man, we haven't heard that in a 340 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.440 minute. That intro music was for a reason. Jane Wells is on the 341 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:11.160 line this good morning. You're not going to believe. First of all, 342 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.640 this Taco Tuesday thing is hilarious that that was that had to right America apparently 343 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:21.359 right now. But I had a dream right before I woke up that I 344 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.160 was filling in on KFI and they were coming from back from break and it 345 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.000 all went to hell, and I was supposed to talk about Spiro Agnew and 346 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.400 I didn't remember anything else, and I was trying to remember nattering nabobs and 347 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:37.720 my computer went dead. And I swear, Jason, as I was talking 348 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:44.720 to you about that, my computer went dead. So I foretold, Wow, 349 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.839 I know whoa No really, I mean, because we don't want Spiro 350 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.599 Agnew back either, Okay, Jane, So let's just stop conjuring in your 351 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:56.000 dreams, please. Okay, let's move over, let's move over, let's 352 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.640 get let's get to it. I'm so sorry that's Okay, cool, I 353 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:02.519 just want talk about Netflix earnings because this is something I do follow as a 354 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.359 thread. I want to get your take on it. Netflix reports earnings today. 355 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:08.240 It's expected to be a banger, right it is. Even though we've 356 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:12.160 got these tremendous strikes going on in Hollywood and everyone is afraid of running out 357 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:18.359 of content. Netflix is supposed to have an incredible quarter because it ended its 358 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.799 password sharing and it's starting to gain some traction with its cheaper subscription if you're 359 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:29.240 willing to have ads. And Netflix is not as dependent on US studios. 360 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:33.519 It has a global operation think squid Game, so it can get more content 361 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:38.200 from places that are not under this SAG and WGA contract if necessary. So 362 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:44.599 Netflix is expected to have it have added maybe almost two million subscribers on the 363 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.759 quarter. A year ago they lost a million, and Jason, this is 364 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:52.519 the story about Netflix. Every few years, people write it off as well, 365 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.319 this is it for Netflix. You know you got Disney Plus, or 366 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.119 they're starting to lose subscribers or what. This happens. This has been happening 367 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.440 every twenty years. Every so often it's like, oh that's the end, 368 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:08.039 and no. Netflix always comes back. The stock is up about fifty percent 369 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.440 year to date, and we'll see what the actual earnings are after this. 370 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.519 But people a year ago were saying analysts were starting to say, well, 371 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.640 that's it, the good the glory days for Netflix are over, and now 372 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.839 they're saying no. And a big reason is because they ended passwords sharing. 373 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.480 Yeah, you're right, and they've insulated themselves because of production in India and 374 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.920 in South Asia. So I mean in Korea specifically, yes, but well, 375 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.559 a lot of traction for that. That's interesting. I did see that 376 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.640 Read Hastings, CEO at Netflix. He was listed on the SAG list at 377 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:42.519 two hundred million dollars annual salary, which was a pressure point for their negotiations. 378 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.319 I'm not following the Tour de France very much, but I know it's 379 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:48.799 on our talk point. Oh no, did you have something on Netflix? 380 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.440 I'll stay here. I was just gonna say all these CEOs, you know, 381 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:57.000 Bob Iger was on CNBC talking about how the actors don't understand the reality 382 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:00.039 we live in. This is after he just got in a two year extension 383 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.759 for I don't know what is it, fifty four million dollars from Disney and 384 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.319 fran Drescher said you know, maybe they out of lock them in a room. 385 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:10.960 So it's difficult for these CEOs to complain that actors don't understand the reality 386 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.039 when you know they're all up in Sun Valley. Yeah, fair enough, 387 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:17.119 that's very true. Now, I did want to pivot over to Tour de 388 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:18.880 France if I could with you before we have to let you go because I'm 389 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.440 not following it. But apparently it's been awesome. So I've been doing a 390 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.640 little bit of research and it looks fantastic. There's also some tech involved as 391 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.319 Well's what should we be following with Tour de France this year? Well, 392 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.440 it is one of the most exciting Tour de Frances in a long time. 393 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.279 And what I did I did a story for my substack Jane Wels dot substack 394 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:40.839 dot com or who are these young American writers coming out of the shadow of 395 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.039 Lance Armstrong. You know, Lance lost about seventy five million dollars in sponsorships 396 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.119 when he finally admitted to all the cheating he'd done for the years and years 397 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.319 and years. So I wanted to know our American cyclist back, what's the 398 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.359 situation with cheating? How much money can you make? I talked to one 399 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.240 of the youngest writers in this year's tour, Kevin Verm Marky. He's from 400 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.079 California, started out mountain bike riding, like so many of these young American 401 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.640 riders do. They get over to a road bike and they love it. 402 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:15.319 He says basically that the technology has improved so much with nutrition and training. 403 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.759 Guys are training at altitude above six thousand feet and the bikes that the cheating 404 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:25.160 from Lance's day is really no longer necessary. And he says that he has 405 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.119 to provide a location twice a day and a window of time when he'll be 406 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:33.480 there, but the doping people can show up anytime to test him, and 407 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:38.119 they have done so about ten times over the last year without not even related 408 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.839 to her race, So it was interesting to me. He says. Maybe 409 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.680 some guys are still in the gray area, but he has never seen it. 410 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.839 He thinks is the most anti doping sport ever. Now. He respects 411 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:53.319 what Lance did because he says it was a dirty era and he still won 412 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:59.359 seven tours in a row. But it is amazing watching these guys and they 413 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:00.839 don't make that much money if you're new. I mean, some of the 414 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.680 top guys can make six figures. But if you're just a brand new rookie, 415 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.880 the minimum contract is fifty thousand dollars a year. Now, this is 416 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.960 for a world tour club. That's not a lot. So they're all living 417 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.160 over in Spain, eating ramen or whatever they have to eat to train all 418 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:22.559 the time. They cannot usually get outside sponsors because the team already has sponsors. 419 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:27.240 So the rank and file guys of these elite, elite elite groups are 420 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.599 not making a ton of money. Well, and it's also one hundred and 421 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.400 twenty degrees in Spain right now with everyone who's train before the Tour de France. 422 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:38.240 Yeah, and I'm looking at the headlines and honestly, I can't even 423 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.640 his name is Jonas, and I'm not going to be able without a pronouncer 424 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:47.039 to do his last name. But he's He's Vanagar. Thank you. Fire 425 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.160 on that one. Let's move to some consumer economy real quick, because this 426 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:52.559 is also something that's in my swing zone. But I want to hear your 427 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.240 take. Twenty two percent of loans in the US rejected in the last month. 428 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.880 Okay, why it's interesting, And I think part of it is that 429 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.880 a lot of banks that would be doing this lending are a little skittish after 430 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:10.119 we've had the bank failures earlier this year, and fewer people are applying for 431 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.359 loans, so you have this the highest rejection rate in five years, twenty 432 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.079 two percent, with fewer people applying. Most of the people being rejected have 433 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.880 credit scores of six eighty year under. But it's really across the board, 434 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.039 and it's across all kinds of loans. I mean, we're talking auto loans, 435 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.640 credit card applications. Refis in particular being rejected at thirty one percent, 436 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.480 which tells you what the banks think are going to happen with how housing prices. 437 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.279 But it's very very interesting. This is according to the Federal Reserve that 438 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:44.400 this is happening as fewer people even are applying and banks this is where banks 439 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.599 make their money is in lending. So I'm not quite sure all the reasons 440 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.480 why, but that's a big number, one out of five, more than 441 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:52.799 one out of five loans being turned down. Yeah, I agree, the 442 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.759 credit crunch is here. The free money era is definitely over. In the 443 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.039 Fed is aggressively addressing this. For sure. You met your substack a second 444 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.039 ago. Where else can people find you on the webs? Well, I'm 445 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.599 on threads now with all you know, thirty three people following me there, 446 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.559 so it's all at Jane Wells everywhere across the social media landscape. And can 447 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:17.920 I just tell you there's too many social media channels now and I'm I'm honestly, 448 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.480 Jason, I'm getting bored and I'm interacting with them less and less all 449 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.440 the time. Wow, welcome, I you know what, I am one 450 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.039 of the followers, I will say, but I too, am not very 451 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.279 engaged, and I hope that the bosses aren't listening terribly because they like us 452 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.920 to be on the socials as much as we can. Jane. Always a 453 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.519 pleasure. Great to have you back and we'll talk again soon. Thank you. 454 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.240 Take care. Las Vegas police say they executed a search warrant Monday in 455 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.680 the murder of rapper or the killing and shooting of rapper Tupac Shakur. Shakur 456 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.359 was shot and killed twenty six years ago. And on the line with this 457 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.319 is ABC's Alex Stone to discuss this. Welcome back, Alex. Hey, 458 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.640 Jason, how are you doing. I'm good, I'm good. Thanks you. 459 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:57.519 Now. I guess there's not a lot of details coming out of the 460 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.480 LVPD on this. Can you give us caught up? Yeah, so overnight 461 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.920 we did learn a lot more from a source in the investigation. So, 462 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.440 first of all, I think there was a lot of shock even among law 463 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.920 enforcement nationwide that this thirty year old, nearly thirty year old murder cold case, 464 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.359 all of a sudden, you know, all the folklore around it, 465 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:25.079 all the conspiracy theories about Tupac and is he alive, was he really murdered, 466 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.960 who was involved, and it wasn't connected to the Biggie Smalls murder in 467 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.079 LA. A lot of people believe it was, you know, all of 468 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:33.960 that. Then all of a sudden, boom, it comes back to life. 469 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:40.480 Now we understand that this is connected to a guy who took part in 470 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:45.880 a Netflix documentary, wrote a book Compton Street Legend in twenty nineteen, did 471 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:52.160 a BT interview in a documentary claiming that he is the only living eyewitness to 472 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.839 what truly went down. The other eyewitness would be Shook Night. He's in 473 00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.519 prison for the murder the hit and run in LA a couple of years ago, 474 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.839 and Choke Knight has said from the beginning that his job is not to 475 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.960 solve murders, that they don't pay him to do that, and that he's 476 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.359 not going to help police out on that. So the belief being that this 477 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.039 may be a guy who was in the car with the killer, was in 478 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:20.839 the killers car. We obtained overnight audio of the swat team moving in in 479 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:28.920 Las Vegas late Monday night sounded like this. They went in with a full 480 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.400 swat team, even though this guy is quite a bit older now and not 481 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.839 quite the young rapper that he was thirty years ago. But they went in 482 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.319 with armored vehicles. The full swat team ordered to everybody in the home to 483 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:47.160 come out. We know that prosecutors and LVMPD they believe that they've got enough 484 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.839 to move forward now. They went in looking we're told for computers articles about 485 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.680 Tupac, about his death that will now be presented to a grand jury in 486 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.400 Las Vegas. No charging decisions have been made. They're going to decide on 487 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:07.640 that. The thinking there is among police in Las Vegas, we're told from 488 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.519 inside the case, is that the shooter died a long time ago. About 489 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:15.720 two years after the murder of Tupac, there was another drive by shooting in 490 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.240 Las Vegas. They think that was the death of the murder this is going 491 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.279 to be it appears, and we'll see where it goes. But accessory to 492 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.599 a crime something like that, not the actual murder, but that'll be up 493 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.200 to a grand jury if they go anywhere with it, and what the charges 494 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.839 would be. But just the fact that this is still an open investigation and 495 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.559 still moving that was a shock of it. And by the way, Jason, 496 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:44.279 we talked to LAPD yesterday. They tell us there's no movement in the 497 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:49.720 Biggie Smalls murder, so it's not like this is sparking anything and that they 498 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.160 said, no, nothing new there. Well, Alex, you've given us 499 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.839 a pretty good three sixty about this. I guess my only follow up question 500 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:59.880 would have to be this being such a high profile case, is LVPD known 501 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.000 to be a little more forthcoming with these things. Do you have anything on 502 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.559 the schedule today as far as updates or any kind of press conferences. No, 503 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.800 they typically are pretty a tight lipped. They are not going to hold 504 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.719 any briefings on this, at least that there are none that are planned. 505 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.119 We're likely not going to find that much more. Everything is sealed and this 506 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.559 nobody's been arrested, so the grand jury is beginning it's work. This could 507 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.079 now go on for quite a while that they are, they're going to present 508 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.800 what they found. Once they get their case together, it'll go that grand 509 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.239 jury. The grand jury will do its work in whatever amount of time it 510 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.440 will work. Then a charging decision will be made based on what the grand 511 00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.880 jury says. So this could go now many months, it could be six 512 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.639 months, it could be a year from now where we say, you know, 513 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:45.000 oh my gosh, that there are charges filed in the Tupac murder, 514 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.199 or maybe it'll go nowhere, maybe we'll never hear another thing about it. 515 00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:51.599 If the jury says no, they don't want to do it, so likely 516 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.920 it's not going to be anything immediate. LVMPD says that they don't plan on 517 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:58.639 saying or doing anything at this point. You know, the information we're getting 518 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.719 or from folks inside the investigation and publicly they're they're not saying a whole lot. 519 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.360 All right, Well, Alex, thank you so much for this very 520 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.599 informative and conclusive so far. It's been a minute since you and I shared 521 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.400 some mere It's good to hear your boys. Yeah, it's good to talk 522 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.679 to you. Thanks Jason, bye, Alex. We lead Local Live from 523 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.239 the kf I twenty four our news room. I'm Jason Middleton. This has 524 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.719 been your wake up Call. You've been listening to wake up call? You 525 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.719 know you can always listen live on kf I Am six forty weekdays from five 526 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.880 to six am, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app