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This is I on the Ball with
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R two SA at iHeartRadio Stave Yet. Good afternoon, Welcome down to the

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ballure on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm your host for the day again,

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Jay Gonzalez. My partner, Steve
is still day to day. He's out

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today, so it'll be just Kevin
and I today kind of kicking things around

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for you. We've got a lot
to talk about, a lot of stuff

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happened over the weekend, and so
we'll we'll throw that around. We've got

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a couple of great guests. I'm
trying to fix my volume here on my

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headphone so I don't blast myself out
of the park with my own voice.

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But again, Steve will be out. He's probably gonna be out a couple

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more days, but we'll walk him
in back obviously when he gets back.

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In crazy weekend, US Open was
crazy. A lot of weird stuff going

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on in the College World Series,
incredible plays, a lot of that stuff.

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The NBA Playoffs Friday night, there
was a blowout, a blowout of

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blowouts. I mean exactly. Uh, the the Edmonton oiler came back that

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uh that series is going is still
going as well, and then uh,

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you know, just here we go, man, heading into the summer.

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We got a lot of a lot
of things to talk about as we headed

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in the summer with Big twelve and
moving to the Big twelve and those kinds

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of things. So got a couple
of really good guests today. Uh Justin

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Spears, who who had obviously had
a long sit down with Brent Brennan,

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had had a big piece of Q
and A in yesterday's arizon A Daily Star.

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You know, we had fifteen minutes
with with with coach Brennan last week.

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But obviously, uh, don't don't
get into as deep as things as

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as a Justin got to get got
to. So we're going to talk to

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Justin about his conversation with him,
kind of pick a little bit his brain

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in terms of what he's thinking about
Brennan, how he thinks he's doing,

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those kinds of things. Uh So
if you have and read that piece,

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uh it's a very long piece in
uh In, there's one daily start it's

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in the Sunday paper. And then
we're going to bring in another another newly

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named inductee to the U of A
Sports Hall of Fame, and that's Kenzie

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Fowler Kensey Fowler Quinn. She's been
on the show a few times, you

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know, she's an analyst for ESPN, does women's softball on ESPN, and

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we talked to her before the tournament
started, but we didn't know she was

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going in the Hall of Fame.
So we decided to bring her back and

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go back, you know, go
down memory lane of her time you know

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here at the U of A.
How she feels about being uh in the

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Hall of Fame. She's an employee
of the U of A too, so

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it really really yeah, really interesting
thing. Has always been a great guest

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for us. Was really uh uh
really happy that we asked her to come

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on and be able to talk about
this great award. So here we go,

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Kevin and uh NBA tonight. Uh
they're back in uh, they're back

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in uh Boston. You know,
one of those games where it's over or

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it's really on. Yeah, right, totally. You know, if if,

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if the if the MAVs can go
back there and pull this one off,

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keep it going, go back to
their place where you think they'd win.

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Now you're talking about a game seven, such a blowout, does that

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you know? Does that? Do
you do you sense any carryover? Do

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you feel there's any any carryover something
like that? Or is Boston saying you

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guys got nothing, You're coming to
our place where you can kick your ass.

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I think I think it's it's I
don't think Boston is fretting anything.

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I don't think they're fearful yet.
I think if they lose this game,

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I think, like you said,
then it's kind of on because then you're

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going back to Dallas. They have
home court, right, They've now taken

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a home court from you, right, And so yeah, I think I

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think today's game obviously is the Vitals. It could be the end of the

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season, right, But I think
this game is is more so the emotional

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teeter point than the last. I
only saw some of the game because I

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went out to eat on Friday night. The game was on where I was

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having dinner, and I'm like,
I'm watching, I'm like, who are

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these guys? Right? Who are
the Mavericks? Who are the Celtics?

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They didn't look like what they looked
like, and you know, even the

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MAVs I mean, they didn't look
horrible in losing those three games. They

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just got beat. It was like, who are these guys? Yeah?

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And I think I think that I
was listening to Dan Patrick this morning and

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he brought a very fair point when
you when you were down thirty seven,

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which is the biggest deficit in the
finals since nineteen ninety seven, at what

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point do you kind of just say, all right, mentally on to Boston,

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right, we'll get them on Monday. Yeah, and you, I'm

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sure you do. You know what
point, you know, you stop more

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for fifty to fifty balls, or
stop trying to you know, chase down

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block, you get the last rebound
or whatever. At what point do you

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start preserving energy for Monday today or
make sure you don't get hurt? Yeah,

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and that there's I think there's a
lot of truth to that. But

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still they got down thirty seven,
right, they found themselves in that position

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for some reason. Dallas came out
with their hair on fire. The Celtics

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did not. And there you go
that You've got a game where you got

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people thinking, look if Dallas,
if Dallas had barely won, people had

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saying, you guys are done.
Your toast you're over, you don't have

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it. You know, you won
a game at home that you should have

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won. But the way this thing
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Yeah, and I think it's it's
also the way that people the general

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public feel about the Celtics team.
I don't think that they have the same

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belief that they're as strong as like
past. Well, they're not one of

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the great teams. Yeah they're not. They're really good, yes, they're

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really good, but we really don't
have one of the a great team.

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I mean, this is one great
season for the Celtics team, but we

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have we won't have a dynastic team
right now, right and then. And

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that's the thing spot. So it's
weird for fans kind of seeing Luke the

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star that Luka Doncic is kind of
being you know, smothered out by this

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elite roster that the have, and
you know, and at various points that

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during the season, I did hear
people say, oh, this is a

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great team, this is one of
the great teams. I'm like, I

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don't see it. I mean,
they've got really good players and Jason Tatum

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is a really i mean he's a
he's a great player, but you know,

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you want to tell me that they're
you know, you can talk about

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them in the in the context of
Larry Bird and and and those guys,

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or you know, go back even
further, you know, the the John

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Havelichek teams and Bill Russell teams at
one. No, they're not. They're

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really good, and they were the
best team in the NBA all season long,

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and they showed it, they proved
it. But I'm sorry, you

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know, they're just really really good. I think they're probably the best team

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we've had in recent years. Yeah, they say that in the Nuggets team

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of last year. I think you'd
have to probably go back to maybe the

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twenty sixteen era Cavalier Warrior teams for
a comparable. I don't think they're one

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of the all time great rosters ever, that's the definitely a modern yeah.

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Yeah, but yeah, I totally
agree with you on Yeah again, hands

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down the best team in the league, hands down, no doubt, no

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doubt, right, no doubt,
one of the best teams in the league,

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but not one of the great teams
of all time, correct, you

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know, And you just can't say
that. I think it's as good as

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Tatum and Brown are. They do
take enough nights off, so to speak,

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air quotes that they don't really have
the top and the all time guy

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right now that I think if like
let's say, Tatum, was it like

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one level above, if you did
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step right then I think you're talking
about this team in that kind of way.

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But I don't think they're there yet, at least not this Honestly,

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I don't think they're even close.
All right, Celtics are six and a

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half point favorites tonight. What are
you doing with that? I might I

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might have to dip into the player
props and do a money line something,

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but stay away from the game.
But yeah, honestly, I think the

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Celtics probably cover tonight. Yeah.
Yeah, their minus two sixty five on

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the money line plus the Mavericks of
plus two fifteen. Yeah, I'm the

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same. You know, I hate
I hate those lines in the six and

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a half five, like a five
to seven point spread. I hate that.

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With the season on the line,
you know, the Mavericks are going

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to fight until the clockheads zero,
right, and so if it's a ten

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point thirteen point lead with two minutes
left, yeah, and they start playing

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the foul game and they get a
couple of cheap threes on the other end

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of six point and then and then
and then you've lost. Then you've lost

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your bet. So I don't know. I yeah, I'm the same way.

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I've played the over under a couple
of times, and I've hit the

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under twice, so final, yeah, but it's now down to two ten

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and a half. Both times I
hit it, one was one was two

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fourteen and a half and one was
too fourteen and I both and I was

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just under by about four points,
four or five points each time. Two

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ten and a half seems I don't
know, or yeah, two ten and

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a half tells me. It's like
you're betting that number. You're either deciding,

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all right, this is gonna be
a tight, you know, nervous

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kind of game, or they're just
going to shoot the lights out. Boston

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is gonna get hot and hold them
to ninety, but they're gonna score one

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fifteen, right right. I don't
know. I don't know. I don't

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know what I'm doing with this one. We'll see, we'll see, all

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right, So it should be fun. I for one, hope the Mavericks

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win. I want the series to
keep going. I hate having having these

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seasons end. I hate having seven
game series end in four or five.

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I want them to go on.
I want something to watch on TV.

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You know I do. Yeah,
this time of year. You know,

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yesterday, you know my you know, my family was over for on Father's

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Day. We had two TVs going. We had the US Open going.

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Then my son wanted to see he
had one of the EuroLeague uh uh games

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going. I was in England and
slow, fuck you England, and somebody

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asking the wrong and then and then
then we had the Dodger game on,

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and Dodgers had a bad weekend.
Mookie Betts got his hand busted by ninety

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eight mile an hour fastball. Well, I mean he's got a bust at

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hand, he's got broken hand.
And then and uh and Yamamoto, they're

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they're great picture that they're paying hundreds
of millions of dollars for when on the

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h went on the I l with
a with a rotator cuff. So it's

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a it was a bad weekend for
the Dodgers. I don't feel like they're

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far enough out ahead that you can
say, don't worry about it. You

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know, you know, you lose
one of your bed probably your number.

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I would say, you're number two
or three starter, and then you're you

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know, Muki was a favorite to
win the m v P and now he's

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not. Yeah, they are.
There are currently eight games up on the

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padres eight and a half up on
both the Diamondbacks and Giants. So it's

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not it's not an unimpeachable position.
It's not. It's not. And I

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mean I was watching the game when
Mookie got hit, and like he got

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hit, I'm like, that hurt, that hurt. And then he's writhing

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on the ground. He literally could
not stand up. His hand hurt so

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bad. They were trying to get
him up and he couldn't get up.

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He was that's the kind of pain
that he was in. I mean,

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it hit him right on the outside
of the left hand. So if if

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you're you know, if you see
him holding the bat, it's the bottom

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the bottom hand, right hand,
you here the bottom hand where you're pinky,

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And they hit him right on the
left side of the left hand and

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apparently bust, so you knew it
was bad. You know, sometimes guy

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gets hit, you know, he's
shaking his hand. He goes to first

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base and he's Okay. He was
writhing in pain on the ground and rolling

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over and he couldn't get up.
That must have been an awful feeling.

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In ninety eight miles an hour.
Ninety eight miles an hour, it's right,

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small, right, and then you're
holding the bat so it hits you

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and there's no give whatsoever. You
know, a lot of people ask him

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because if you have, if you've
seen show hey bat this year, he's

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basically got this shield of a glove
on his lower hand on the bat.

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I don't know if it would have
protected the outside of the hand where Mookie

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got hit. It's more for the
top of the hand. But you know,

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guys are wearing different stuff. Mookie
didn't doesn't have hand protection on the

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bat. I'm sure he will going
forward, but he, uh, you

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know, remains to be seeing how
long he's going to be out. And

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uh and the you know the Dodgers, uh god did they Oh they won

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yesterday, so they went too out
of three, but they ended up splitting

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the six games at home because they
lost two out of three to the Rangers.

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So I don't know, man,
it's uh, that's that's a bad

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deal. I mean, you can
lose guys. But you can't lose that

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guy, right and two of those
guys, Yeah, a couple of those

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guys real quickly. Did you want
to talk about the US open? I

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do, and I don't because I'm
I'm a Rory fan. I'm a big

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Rory fan, and I don't like
Bryson Deshambo despite him trying to turn his

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image around and be a player of
the people, you know what, to

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me, he's still a live guy. He's a trader. Uh you know,

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when when when when? When people
do that, you know, try

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and change their image. I wonder
how much of it is for the money,

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because I know I've got to change
my image to you know, be

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seen better and get my endorsements,
and how much of it is real?

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Okay? I tend to I tend
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you know, because to me,
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I believe people can change? I
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of what he's doing seems fake to
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could be wrong, and there's probably
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of crap and I'm a butt head, and you know, give the guy

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a chance. Fine, you know, my mind's made up on bryceon de

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Shambo. So I was not happy
that he won it. The two putts

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that Rory missed, I was telling
you off air as I'm watching and as

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he's getting over those puts, I'm
going, I can't make this under these

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circumstances. I don't make this putt. And then he missed both of them,

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and I'm like, you know,
And then did you see there was

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a stat that he's four hundred,
like four hundred up to that putt that

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he missed at that distance that lost
you know, the last putt on the

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eighteenth, he was four hundred and
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in putts of that distance or less, he had not missed one and almost

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the last five four five hundred three
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hundred tries, he had not missed
that putt. And then he did that.

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Yeah, and now you're losing him
for the TPC River Highlands that he

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was supposed to It's the last signature
of end of the season. He was

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supposed to participate in that. He
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He built himself. He looked melted. He looked. You know, there's

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all the video of him waiting to
see if Sham he looked, and then

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he didn't. He left. He
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a little disappointed he did that,
completely understand because what are you going to

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ask him? How do you miss
that put? You know, well,

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I missed it because I missed it
himself, right, probably upset exactly.

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He's been criticized heavily for for not
sticking around for that. But I feel

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bad for the guy. But what
are you gonna do? He missed the

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putt, and uh, he didn't
win the US Open, and he blew

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it. I mean, he no
other way to say he blew it.

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I hate using the word choke,
but he blew it was his to win

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and and he missed two easy putts
it would have won it. And that

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that's all you can say. All
Right, let's go and take a break.

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We have Justin Spears coming on.
We're gonna talk some Uh, you

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have a football. He had some
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big story that ran in the paper
yesterday. So we'll talk to him about

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the boll Welcome back to I'm Bolling
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host for the Dave Jay Gonzalez.
Steve is still out. He's as mentioned,

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he's day to day. I got
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We've got Justin Spears from the air
Zon Daily Star, a football beat writer

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covering the Cats. I had a
nice long talkic with with Brent Brennan,

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did a big long Q and A
that ran and yesterday's Ave Zone Daily Star.

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If you haven't read it you want
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what Brent's Brent Brennan's been up to. It would be a good read for

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you to find that out. Justin, Welcome to the show. Thanks for

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being here, No, thanks for
having me. Now you say Steve is

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day to day, Like, what
are we talking about here, We're talking

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about a hangover, just having a
little too much fun. Like, what

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the reason he's his day to day
status. He's got a family issue.

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He's back home. It's going to
take a few days to get through it.

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And he'll be back here later this
week. That's all. That's all

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I can say. That's all been
given permission to say. So there you

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go, there you go. Oh
well, well, heart's out to Steve

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now, seriously, that's my guy. I love I love Steve Man.

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He's the best yet to hear back
on the radio show. Yeah, one

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of the good guys. So you
had you had a nice long time.

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How much time did you get with
him for this Q and A about you

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know, twenty minutes or so,
and you know, we talked about a

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number of different topics. I basically
just wanted to just check in with him

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to see, you know, what's
going on with the football program and Arizona

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hasn't really had any availabilities and right
adding those late additions through the transfer portal,

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So there were a lot of things
I wanted to talk about. Plus,

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you know, with college football and
I mean college athlod in general,

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and just so much is changing in
the landscape, you know, like we're

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seeing logos getting added to fields,
We're seeing all sorts of things being changed

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with nil and everything. So you
know, there was a couple of topics

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that I really wanted to touch on
and also his camps that he's holding right

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now, the Brandon football camps that
are wrapping up this week. And you

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know, he added an element to
the Arizona football camps, which is girls'

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high school flag football. I think, or I think it's just girls flag

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football period. And you know,
girls flag football is such a rising sport

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right now. It's going to be
added to the Olympics in twenty twenty eight.

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So lots to talk about in upfront. I'm really glad that I was

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able to talk with Cook fronts.
So when I see a Q and A

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Okay, I'm just going to I'm
not gonna lie. I jump around,

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right, I look for the questions
that I'm most interested in and work my

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way down. So the question that
I went to first was was the team

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AC and I saw he just said
he's moving along and progressing. Great.

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That's it. That's all you're going
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you heard anything else? I mean, what the injury even is. Yeah,

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I haven't heard what the injury is, but we just know that it

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happened in his left leg. It
was a one on one drill that he

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was doing with cornerback to Carlo Davis. And those two have been going at

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it now for the last really couple
of years. But in the spring to

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Carl Davis and t Maac have been
the go to battle, the one that

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everyone wants to watch. One Saturday
practice, they got tangled up in a

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one on one drill. Tea Mac
gets up, limps off the field.

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That's the thing. He stood up
by himself, limped off the field by

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himself. Then you know, limped
to the locker room and that's the last

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that we've seen from him in his
uniform. And then you know, we

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saw him rolling around on his scooter
and he has a cat or a walking

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root on his left leg. And
I will say this, we don't know

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what the injury is. We don't
know the severity of it. But you

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know, the way Brent Brandon was
talking about it during the spring was that,

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you know, team's going to be
fine. He just had a small

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procedure that they wanted to be a
little cautious about. So they wanted to

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just hold him out for the rest
of spring, get that little procedure done

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and get him ready for training camp
and the season. And one thing that

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both well for Arizona fans who are
wondering, Oh, what's going to happen

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with t Mac. There was a
Father's Day post that the airson A football

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team put out and they showed all
the guys that are you know, in

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town, including the transit portal editions, and you could see te Mac in

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the background walking around. Okay,
so he's the fact that he's walking around,

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moving around, I think is a
very good sign for Arizona. So

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I don't think it's too severe.
But I'm not a doctor, so don't

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quote me well again. And I
did mention to Brent when we had him

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on the show. I said,
you know, Brent, every ten win

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season Arizona's had, they've basically taken
a dump the next year. So you

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know that you got it. You
know you got an injury, you got

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that. You just got to tell
us you're not you guys are going to

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take a dump this year. Because
that was a It's just been tough to

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be an Arizona fan when with these
kinds of expectations that this program has for

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this coming season, right, I
mean a lot of people are talking about

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Arizona as being a contender in the
Big twelve. I think I saw Rhys

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Davis said that you know, Arizona's
a sleeper. Watch out for them.

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Some people are picking them as high
as third. I've seen some you know,

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in fifth, but you know,
i've seen them be they're ranked in

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some preseason rankings. There's a lot
of expectations, and you wonder, when

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you're a new coach, how hard
is that to deal with that stuff.

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Brent seems to be okay with all
of it, as you mean, a

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coach is totally okay with expectations and
you know his team, actually, we

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don't win some football games. This
is, you know, really kind of

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un something in your territory with any
first year coach, because you know,

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for the most part, when you're
taking over a team just lost their coach.

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Most of the time it's because they
lost and the coach got fired,

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right and then and then even when
if it's so good that the coach left

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for a better job. In today's
college football landscape, you know, players

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enter the portal and go to other
programs and leave, and then the program

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that you know was winning games and
had all these great players, you know,

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kind of gets knocked down. You
pegs, and then your expectations kind

411
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of taper off a little bit.
But you look at this whole situation and

412
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it's very unique because you know,
Brent Brennan is the first year coach,

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but you got arguably the best quarterback
in the conference in Mel Fafida returning under

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center, and he's got a whole
year of or mostly a year of,

415
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you know, playing experience as a
starter. And then you know, tear

416
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Roll mc millan is the best receiver
in college football in my opinion, And

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I think that Tea Mac has the
qualities and the traits that make him an

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NFL wide receiver even today. I
think he would be the highly tied of

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receiver in today's NFL if you were
to leave so with the offense, and

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then I mean, shoot, you
look at the defense. I mean,

421
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Jacob Manu could be the pack the
Big Twelve defensive player of the year.

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You know, I filled out my
preseason poll and All Big Twelve team,

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and I have a handful of Wildcats
on that team. I got Jacob Manu

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as an All Big twelve linebacker.
I got Takaro Davis at cornerback. On

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the offensive side, I got Noah
Fafida team Mack of course on the offensive

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line. I got join A Saviania
at right tackle, left guard Wendell moy

427
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and then kicker Tyler Loop. So
think about all those guys that I just

428
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mentioned, and I mean, sure
is the Arizona Football b Rider probably going

429
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to pick more Arizona guys to be
on his All Big twelve team in comparison

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to the Iowa State and the Kansas
State and the Texas Tech guys. Probably,

431
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But honestly, like speaking, you
know, from my earnest opinion,

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I really think all the guys that
I just mentioned are all Big twelve guys.

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And you know what, there's some
that I left off, including defensive

434
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back Trade and Stukes. You know, Duaynea Quina. This man has coached

435
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so many high level defensive backs and
he knows what it takes to be not

436
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only just a great corner or defensive
back at the collegiate level ball to the

437
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NFL level. I mean, I
mean the guy coached for Jim Thorpe Award

438
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winners and Dwayna Keina has put guy
like Trade and Stukes in the mix with

439
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.079
some of the best defensive backs that
he's ever coached. And so I think

440
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his ability to cover the pass and
also make open field tackles and defend the

441
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run, you know, trade and
stukes. I mean very very rarely did

442
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you ever see him miss tackles and
I mean once he once he grabs you,

443
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he was going to bring you down. And now was that? So

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him back in the fold with majority
of the defensive secondary coming back along with

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the transit portal guys that they got
to really help, you know, step

446
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.279
in and help out right away.
I just look up and down the robster.

447
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I love what Arizona's doing right now. Are they gonna be world beaters?

448
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We'll find out. I truly believe
that. I put this in my

449
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:30.160
All Big Twelve poll. I got
Arizona as the third best team in the

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Big twelve. I got them behind
Oklahoma State. I also have them behind

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Iowa State. And people probably think
what Iowa talking about? Man. Iowa

452
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State is returning ninety percent of their
starters. They went seven and five last

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year. You know, if Arizona
can go you know, five and seven

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to ten and three, I would
imagine, you know, Iowa State with

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returning majority of the starters, can
do a lot of damage in this upcoming

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season. But Arizona they don't.
Iowa State, they don't play Oklahoma State.

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As a matter of fact, I
think they have a pretty favorable schedule.

458
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I could win them a lot of
games. And if they are able

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to get to the Big twelve championship
games, all if that's are off,

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and if they were to win that
championship game, then they're getting a first

461
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.440
round by and they're going to the
CFP. And who knows, Jay,

462
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.039
maybe we're talking about Arizona plane in
the Rose Bowl. I that I had

463
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.640
that conversation with some guys that last
week. I said, you guys,

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00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.440
we're closer to the Rose Bowl maybe
than they've ever been because because of that,

465
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Because if you can get into the
playoff, you can get bracketed into

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the Rose Ball. Don't get me
going on that though. Don't get me

467
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.839
going on that. So we got
a few more minutes, and I want

468
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.079
to get back to brand and so. And look, when we ask coaches

469
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.720
to compare, they always they never
want to compare. They'd want to compare

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one player to another. I'm going
to ask you, though you've had whatever

471
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:56.119
time you've had with Brent Brandon so
far through spring practice, various press conferences,

472
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in this conversation you had with him, give me the me how he's

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00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:07.400
like Jetfish and how he's not like
Jetfish compared to the two in terms of

474
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.640
how are they different, how are
they alike? If they're alike at all?

475
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:18.960
Wow, that is a really good
question. The differences in similarities between

476
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Brent Brennan and Jetfish, Well,
I feel like if you were to go

477
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.319
out to a bar, Brent Brennan
is more like a beer guy. Jetfish

478
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:36.599
is like a cocktail guy. All
right. Honestly, I think probably the

479
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biggest difference between them is that Brent
and Brennan isn't looking elsewhere. He doesn't

480
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:52.200
have his eyes moving around. And
I've heard from some pretty trustworthy people that

481
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.680
even before Jetfish was looking at Washington, I mean he was looking at jobs

482
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.519
in the middle of the season,
he was he was putting out his feelers,

483
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.039
you know, because Arizona was winning
football games, and right Jetfish had

484
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.559
developed such a great reputation that I
mean, he's already got a great reputation

485
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.160
because of the coaches that he worked
that he's worked with, in the great

486
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.240
resume that he has. But it's
just very interesting to me that, you

487
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.119
know, Jetfish was, you know, keeping his eye on some other jobs

488
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:30.440
before the season ended, and to
me, I just think that Brent Brennan

489
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.039
is at the place that he's always
wanted to be at. I know he's

490
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.960
a U c l. A alumnus, but if that U c l.

491
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.960
A job opens up, he ain't
taken it. I mean, this is

492
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.799
the job that he's always wanted.
So Jetfish is an opportunist and he always

493
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:52.240
will be. And that's why I
smell the bs when I when I hear

494
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.160
him go into an arena at a
Washington basketball game and tell the fans that

495
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.920
they're going to be there for seven
years, and it's like, my man,

496
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.079
you haven't been anywhere longer than a
few I would hold off on the

497
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.160
promises and telling people that you're going
to be here for the long haul because

498
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.880
I highly doubt that, because,
you know what, you kind of hitch

499
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.559
that to a lot of people down
here in Tucson, and that simply wasn't

500
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.839
the case. So I think that, you know, while Jetfish he did

501
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.759
his saying, man, you can't
you can't deny what the job that Jetfish

502
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.200
is. But even if Brent Brennan
goes ten and three in the season and

503
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.640
wins a lot of games and gets
Arizona back to you know, being a

504
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.000
national brand. He ain't leaving anywhere, and so I think that, to

505
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:44.599
me is the biggest difference. Now
the similarities. Honestly, they are both

506
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:52.440
very people personally. I guess they're
they engage well with people, they engage

507
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.440
well with with donors, with boosters, with people who are surrounding the program.

508
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.359
I mean, you know, say
what you want about Jetfish. I

509
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.359
mean the guys I did a lot
to I guess, get people to buy

510
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.400
into the football program. And he
promoted the hell out of Arizona football,

511
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:13.920
right Mark, He did it very
well. He did, and Brennan is

512
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.920
doing the same thing. So man, I didn't think about that. I

513
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.679
mean, there's there's a handful of
differences and similarities, but those are probably

514
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.719
the biggest. Yeah, well I
loved you. I loved your cocktail versus

515
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.880
beer guy. Right, Uh,
you know, Jed is you're You're right.

516
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.360
I mean I would walk in and
I could imagine Jed with a you

517
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.159
know, a Gin and Tonic,
a tall one, you know, in

518
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.639
his hand, and Brent just wants
to have a beer with you on hangout.

519
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.800
I love that. I really that
that sort of said all I needed

520
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.119
to know about, you know,
because you and you know, you and

521
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.000
Lev are going to be the guys
that are going to be around them the

522
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.559
most. I know, the other
media guys in town are you know,

523
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:50.679
are around but you know, you
as the beat guy, you'll you'll see

524
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.320
him more probably as often or get
deeper into him as than the rest of

525
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.159
us. And so I appreciate the
the perspective on that, But that was

526
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.440
a good That was a good,
good way to put that like that,

527
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.000
justin I appreciate the time. Man. Uh, you know, I know

528
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.360
you got a got a summer ahead
of you, but uh, we're heading

529
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.480
towards what big twelve media days just
in a few weeks, right, Yeah,

530
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.559
we got Big twelve meda day coming
up on July ninth and tenth in

531
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.239
Las Vegas. I will be out
there providing the coverage for Tucson dot Com.

532
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.360
And then, yeah, hopefully as
a diehard Lakers fan, maybe the

533
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:28.239
Boston Celtics could be the first team
to blow up a three zero final weeks.

534
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:30.599
Hey, okay, okay, you
brought it up. You brought it

535
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.880
up. You said the word Lakers
happy, unhappy, the Danny Hurley thing.

536
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.400
How did you take that I don't
know he did call his players a

537
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.599
bunch of idiots, or he said
he said I like coaching college guys because

538
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:52.440
they're a lot dumber, or I
mean something like a long I don't know

539
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.840
how I'm gonna take that up on
one of his guys, but he's a

540
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.679
maniac, and damn it, I
wish he was the head coach of the

541
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.840
Lakers because they would be much like
Jim Harbaugh coaching the Chargers. So I

542
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.360
think it's a big miss. But
it looks like uh, mister J.

543
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:14.760
J. Reddick, the second best
shooter in college basketball history behind Set exactly

544
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.199
all right. Justin, Hey,
thanks a bunch. I'm sure we'll see

545
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:20.599
you around and we'll catch up with
you again. Hey, J you're the

546
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.079
man. Go Dodgers. Let's see
you later. Justin spirits from there is

547
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:28.599
on a Daily Star. Uh,
you know, perspective on I thought that

548
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.239
was really good. I thought the
way he put that was was really good

549
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.760
message and clear. Yeah is it? You know, Hey, you know,

550
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.280
kind of slick guy over here and
then just kind of the regular let's

551
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.519
have a beer, sit and sit
down kind of guy. So I agree

552
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.719
with that totally. All right,
So we're gonna take our break, We're

553
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.159
gonna come back. Well, we'd
love to have you call us five two

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zero four one six, seventy four
forty. Would you think of Justin's portrayal

555
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.159
of of of Brent Brennan If you
haven't read it, read the story all

556
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.119
the other stuff going on? Was
that a choke job by by Rory McElroy?

557
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.400
Do you use the word choke for
that? I think a lot of

558
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people are so stick around. Give
us a call five to zero four one,

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six, seventy four forty we'll bring
it back. If you're an Arizona

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already on the next second, so
let's go ahead and take the call.

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00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.039
Hi. You're on the air and
I on the ball. Hey you guys,

592
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.280
this is Gabe. I wanted to
talk I hope you guys are doing

593
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.360
good this week. One another thing
I want to talk to you guys about

594
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:43.719
Arizona going into the Big twelve.
Is that obviously in the in the Ped

595
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:50.079
twelve, Oklahoma Texas all leaving,
so we don't show us Arizona fans and

596
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:54.360
Arizona we don't need to worry about
them, right. And then also and

597
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:02.920
Arizona is leaving the Pac twelve.
They all leaving Oregon, Washington, and

598
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:10.639
USC, those three schools that Arizona
basically did struggle with and not sometimes beating

599
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:19.119
them but in return begetting beateen.
But yeah, Arizona has a huge chance

600
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:24.000
to dominate that conqueror that conference in
regards to football. And so yeah,

601
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.760
I'm happy that Arizona is in the
Big twelve. The one question I have

602
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.199
for you for you guys is out
of the fourth schools in the Big ten,

603
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:40.039
Oregon, Washington, USC, and
Ucla, who do you think is

604
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.199
going to struggle the most the most? Oh, that's not even close.

605
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.039
And if you're talking just football,
it's Ucla. Ucla struggled in the Pac

606
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:54.079
twelve. You know, I think
there's a lot of opinion and I agree

607
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:59.800
with it that Oregon will actually contend
with Michigan and Ohio State, you know,

608
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.480
win the league white thing. Washington's
gonna be very good, but they

609
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:06.000
lost a lot of guys and you
know, they've got a new coach and

610
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.960
Jed Fish, so they're gonna have
some adjusting to do. And that's a

611
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:14.039
tough place to do that. In
USC. You know, you never know,

612
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.079
right USC could be really good or
they can do what they did last

613
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:21.280
ye be really bad. But U
c l A. I don't know.

614
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.480
I just don't think they've got guys
right now. They also have a new

615
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.800
coach, a guy who's never been
a head coach before, as best as

616
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:34.159
we can tell, a very likable
guy. But I don't know that they're

617
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.760
that they've just got the personnel to
compete now. Having said all that,

618
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.480
I'll say and I agree with an
opinion that you hear often about the Big

619
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.639
Ten. It's top heavy. People
like to think of the Big Ten Football

620
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.039
Conference as this massive, knock you
on your butt conference. They've got to

621
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.679
two and a half good team,
three, let's say three. Let's add

622
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.519
Penn State in there. The rest
of the league is crap. There's a

623
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.760
bunch of teams like after Penn State
in the in the Big Ten. There's

624
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.800
a bunch of teams like that in
the in the Pact twelve. So I

625
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:12.400
think Oregon, Washington, and USC
bring three more teams that are gonna make

626
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.880
it hard on Ohio State and Michigan
to go undefeated like they've been going undefeated,

627
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.119
they going defeated because weekend and week
out, they don't have to be

628
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.559
great. They've only got to beat
two or three good teams in their league

629
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.960
and then they're undefeated. So that's
gonna make it hard for them. So

630
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.960
how are their fans gonna get used
to having teams that they can lose to?

631
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.880
So I I to answer your question, I think UCLA is going to

632
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.639
struggle the most, probably followed by
Washington. I think USC will hold its

633
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:45.639
own, and I think Oregon will
contend. I think well, Ucla will

634
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.840
definitely struggle by I think USC will
definitely struggle with them more because you never

635
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:57.280
Nora and plus USC always has all
USC always dominate on the Pact twelve.

636
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:02.360
But going against Ohio, say in
Michigan, you're you're gonna play against the

637
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:08.679
big dogs. Washington is probably gonna
struggle because they're gonna they're gonna have a

638
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:15.280
new coaching staff, and don't get
me started on the Trader. And in

639
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:22.400
regards to Oregon, yeah, they
can't contend, but I think they're in

640
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:28.440
the bigger They're gonna play against the
bigger boys. So who knows as this

641
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:32.039
point now and look and and you
know to your point about the Big Twelve.

642
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:36.920
I agree that with that too,
you know, and across the board,

643
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.360
you know, not just here in
Tucson, but media who are talking

644
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:43.519
about the new Big twelve are all
kind of saying the same thing. It's

645
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.000
wide open. Arizona can go in
there and contend. You I think Utah,

646
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.119
I think the media is probably gonna
pick Utah as the favorite in the

647
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.360
league. Well, we saw what
Arizona did to Utah last year. So

648
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:57.039
you know, I think Arizona's in
a position where it can. Uh.

649
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.840
You know, look, I don't
think anybody's ever gonna die dominate that league,

650
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:06.079
but I think Arizona can be can
contend in that league probably year and

651
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.480
a year out, starting the starting
this year, presuming they can keep up

652
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:13.719
the type of recruiting that they've had
and that NIL and all that doesn't turn

653
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.199
everything upside down on them. So
that's what I think. I'm glad that

654
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:21.960
you brought the whole nil scene.
I think the one thing that I'm gonna

655
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.800
the last thing is I'm gonna say, is well, the whole nil thing.

656
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.360
Everything needs to be equal. Every
school needs, every school needs to

657
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.760
pay a call athlete one hundred thousand
dollars a year, not a million dollars.

658
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:44.079
Everything needs to be legal. And
regards to Arizona, I think I

659
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:50.840
said this recently, but I think
Arizona needs to be the first college to

660
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.559
pay their athletes a livable wage.
Yeah, the first be the first college

661
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:59.679
should do that, and then other
schools will do the same. I think

662
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.760
that's one way to to compete against
the big boys. So that's my two

663
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.159
cents. Well, I appreciate appreciate
your two cents gave. We do as

664
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:13.199
always, so yeah, I understand
where you're coming from on that, But

665
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.440
there's a lot to shake out on
that, so we'll see how it goes.

666
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.480
Thanks a bunch for calling Gaby.
I always appreciate it. You know,

667
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.199
Gabe said something there. He says
he wants it to be it's never

668
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.840
It's never been equal. It's not
going to be equal. It's still going

669
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.239
to be those who have the money, have the have have the advantage.

670
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.280
And it's just gonna be interesting to
see how it shakes out once everybody's got

671
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.719
to pay their players. What what
does that look like? And UH and

672
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:45.440
you know, do we do we
continue to have the the different UH levels

673
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:51.960
of UH, the finances that dictate
everything. I think we still I think

674
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.960
we still will. But you know
it's always been that way, you know,

675
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.960
whether it's been resources, coaching,
whatever ever, Arizona has always been

676
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.039
middle of the pack on all of
that. I think they'll continue to be

677
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:06.840
middle of the pack on all of
that. And you just got to go

678
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.400
out and get good players and hope
every folk every so often you get you

679
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.679
get a group of guys that can
compete with anybody. And that's what you

680
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:19.360
know that Arizona is what had I
think four to ten win seasons now ninety

681
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:23.880
three, ninety eight, twenty fourteen, and then this last year four in

682
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:30.440
my lifetime, right, that's I
think we can continue to expect that.

683
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.119
Maybe a little better being in the
Big twelve because you don't have, as

684
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.440
you said, we don't have Oregon, Washington and USC to contend with year

685
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.880
in and year out. Maybe it
gets a little bit better. Maybe they're

686
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.199
they're at the top of the league
more often, maybe they're winning eight,

687
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:49.239
nine, ten games more often,
being in a league where they're more on

688
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.400
the level with all those guys.
But you know, when you're talking about

689
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.000
are they going to be you know, national contenders? Year in and year

690
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.039
out for playoffs. I don't know, you know, it definitely seems hard

691
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.119
to be able to say that fairly
at this point in Yeah, especially without

692
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.119
having seen the new team next year
yet. Yeah, but yeah, I

693
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.880
think you're right to say that you
can start to expect more successful seasons.

694
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.079
Yeah. And my other point,
you know, on that is again going

695
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.480
back, going back to the Big
Ten. You know, the Big Ten

696
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.079
is just not as good as people
make it out to be. It's been

697
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.719
it's been Ohio State, Michigan and
Penn State for however many years, and

698
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.559
then every once in a while,
I was good every once in a while,

699
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.719
Wisconsin is good, and that's it. That's all you got. Nebraska

700
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.000
hasn't been any good since they got
into Big Ten. They've been no good.

701
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.559
Northwestern's been okay a couple of times, but they're like Arizona, right,

702
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:40.760
they'll have a ten win season,
then they won't have another one for

703
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.639
another fifteen years. And the program
is kind of a mess right now.

704
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.239
And the program is a mess.
So you know, I mean, look,

705
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:52.480
Iowa with the worst, one of
the worst offenses in the history of

706
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.639
college football, maybe a history of
football, right got into their League championship

707
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.079
last year. That's all you need
to say about about the level of the

708
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:06.119
Big twelve, of the Big Ten. It's as a conference. It's got

709
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.880
three good teams and nothing else.
So that's why I think USC and Oregon

710
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:15.000
can go in there do well.
Washington may it takes some time to adjust

711
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.719
if they but if if Jed can
recruit like he recruited recruit to Washington at

712
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.000
that level that you know, at
a Washington level for what you know,

713
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.400
if he can recruit and get players
and coach them up, they can be

714
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.360
They can be pretty good. And
now you've got six teams in that league.

715
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.320
I don't know how long it's gonna
take or if UCLA will ever be

716
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.079
good at football again, but they've
not been good in the Back twelve for

717
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.920
a pretty long time. There seems
to be a lot of optimism from fan

718
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:45.199
bases like Arizona and Washington and Oregon
that are moving to these new conferences and

719
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.280
looking to find success. How do
you think the fans of like teams that

720
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:53.840
are maybe losing spots at the top
of the about these other franchise right program,

721
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.480
Yeah, I mean, how does
how does Texas How does Texas Tech?

722
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.960
Feel about Arizona. Arizona and Utah
come and over, you know,

723
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.840
with with some pretty good with some
pretty good teams. You know, if

724
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.840
you've been battling to try and get
up there, you've been dealing with uh,

725
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.280
Oklahoma and in Texas. Now they're
gone. You're going, okay,

726
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.480
catch up, breath, here we
go. And then A said, you've

727
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.480
got a couple of teams and look, Utah, they're gonna find out in

728
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.280
the Big Twelve. Utah is a
good program. Not just in football,

729
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.639
they're they're a good program in football, They're a good program in basketball,

730
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.079
the other all the other sports.
You know, watch out for Utah.

731
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:29.400
I think, uh, you know, and you know, in Arizona's in

732
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.519
a similar position as Utah and not
maybe not as much success in football recently,

733
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.679
but certainly they're gonna walk in there
with you know, with some with

734
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.599
some street cred or whatever you want
to call it in basketball. So you

735
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.880
know, I think it's gonna be
interesting to see how they're fans, how

736
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.559
the Big Twelve fans take these teams
coming in and saying, wait a minute,

737
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.199
this is what you know? You
know, because because look when Utah

738
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:57.639
and Colorado came into the into the
PAC twelve from the fact, well into

739
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:01.000
the Pac ten became the Pac twelve. I didn't I wasn't worried about those

740
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.519
guys. I wasn't. You know. Then you talk, you know,

741
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.719
got it stuff together, got into
a couple of roseballs, and like,

742
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:08.519
okay, you Todd did a good
job. Colorado hasn't been any good,

743
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:13.559
you know. In fact, they've
been terrible. They've been they've been terrible.

744
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.960
So, you know, looking at
it from a Big twelve fan,

745
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:19.480
now they're seeing these teams coming home
and they're saying, how good can they

746
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.679
be? They're they're the scraps.
You know, the Big Ten didn't want

747
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.039
them. That's why they're in our
league, right it. It's conning interesting

748
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.440
to see when you know, when
Arizona goes and plays Kansas State and the

749
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.079
non conference game at the top of
the at the top of the season next

750
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.760
year, if Arizona goes in there
and wins that game, Kan's State fans

751
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.000
are going a wall, whoa,
whoa, whoa, Where do these guys

752
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.159
come from? Yeah? Where did
they? Where did they come from?

753
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.320
And then all of a sudden,
I thought we were only wildcats here?

754
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.119
Hold on, no, right,
Arizona, Kansas State is considered one of

755
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:46.800
the favorites in the league. If
Arizona goes up there and wins that game,

756
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.840
all of a sudden, make they
make a huge statement, and Arizona's

757
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.880
a favorite in the league. Yeah, a whole new sheriff in town.

758
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.280
It'll be it'll be interesting to see
how that, how that comes out.

759
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.239
All right, So, I you
know, I know, man, I'm

760
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:05.320
starting to get really excited about this
because again, as much as I hated

761
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.880
and I still hate what happened to
the Big to the Pac Twelve, I'm

762
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.239
excited about the Big Twelve for the
reason that you know, justin stated you

763
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.079
know, look, Arizona, you
get and you know, you get into

764
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.880
the Big twelve championship, you're probably
just get into it. You're probably in

765
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.199
the playoffs. Yeah, and then
what all you gotta just get in and

766
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.400
then anything can happen. I feel
like almost that time of year where every

767
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:32.000
fan yeah, I don't know,
you know, I don't know, you

768
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.840
know, And and I like that. I like that feeling going in.

769
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.039
I mean, if we were ACU
right now, I'd be going, you

770
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:44.639
know, can we just go to
the Mountain West. I would hate going

771
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.679
in, right, I would hate
going into into this new league feeling like

772
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.599
we're just going to get our faces
kicked in some more. And look,

773
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.599
I think AC is going to get
better. I like Kenny Dillingham so far.

774
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.360
They got you know, got a
good recruiting classy are probably going to

775
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.400
get better and be tougher to deal
with. But I'd much rather be going

776
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:08.079
in with the team that Arizona has, the hope that Arizona has, the

777
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.960
belief that Arizona has that they can
kind of be a factor in the league.

778
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.199
I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, we can be pretty nostalgic about

779
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.840
the Pack twelve and be sad for
but move on, baby, you can

780
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.159
be excited for what is to come. To turn the page, exactly,

781
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:27.320
turn the page. Okay, we're
here at the top of the hour.

782
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.400
Okay, Kevin's gonna bring us some
breaking news. Then at about four to

783
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.559
twenty, Kenzy fowl Er Quinn,
one of the new members of the Arizona

784
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.639
Sports Hall of Fame, will be
joining us, and we'll go back down

785
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:37.679
memory lane with her softball career at
Arizona that got her into the Hall of

786
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:38.840
Fame. So stick around