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the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,
hello and welcome. Thank you for getting

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your pot on, thank you for
telling a friend. And that's how we

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spread the word. One punch,
one step, one round should be one

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step, one punch, one round. Yeah, my wife told me that

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when I was working out in the
bag the other night. Ha, you're

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doing it. Never just let me
do my thing. She goes, you're

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gonna get hurt. How are you
doing? What's step one punch one?

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Because my legs weren't spread far enough, She goes, you shouldn't be straight

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up to the to the bag.
You should be like this, And yes,

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she's right, but over time I've
gotten lazy and I haven't watched myself

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do it. Yeah, so I'm
just hitting the bag straight up instead of

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like getting into a real box doing
it. Do you have bits? Yeah?

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I do? Well, bring your
Do you have boxing? I have

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uf C mits? Yeah? Okay, not that I'm gonna get to a

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UFC fight at it time, but
bring your bring your uf C mits in

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the mom Okay, all right,
I'll bring in my mits. I'll bring

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in my past. I have my
wrap mits, my UFC mits and my

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quiet punch bits. What. Yeah, I bought this thing called for Beth

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once called quiet punch. Well what
is quiet punch? Quiet punch is Uh

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there's this ball guy who looks like
Laradie Buko. Okay, what what are

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the mits? The quiet Well,
they have to give you a boxing gloves

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to do this. It comes with
the set. You put this thing in

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your doorframe and you just punch it. And they have these videos on YouTube

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that you could watch to show you
how to do it. Just ten to

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twenty minutes of working out a day, you know, doing you know,

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hitting this thing. But it's not
breaking afford a heavy bag. But it's

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a quiet punch because you hit this
thing and it doesn't make much noise,

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and you could get a workout in
in your little doorway. But my wife

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was like, why can't get a
good body shot in on this thing?

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I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, Venus tomorrow. Oh, I apologize.

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I didn't realize that, you know, you were a pro here.

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So I had to get round to
Rousey a big heavy bag instead of the

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year after all. Right, So
but I got these gloves, these quiet

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punch gloves that came with it.
So I'll bring those tomorrow, the quiet

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punch gloves. Are they full boxing? I'll bring in mits never mind,

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I'll just bring in the mess.
You don't want me to bring them interesting

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to make fun of them. Oh, you can bring in anything you want.

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I'll make sure that, I admit. I'll just bring my bag.

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I'll vince in that, and we'll
do a video, a video, yeah,

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of Danny boxing. Come on,
it'll be good. Okay, you're

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not gonna hit back, right,
No, I was gonna say it was

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like hitting the bag. I want
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to you, what do you want
to hear first? How we've created real

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reality TV? Drama, legit or
inappropriate gym attire. But since you're talking

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about working out, will go inappropriate
GM go with the inappropriate gym attire.

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So I'm at the gym and I
see an outfit that is tight, tiny

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and revealing, tight, tiny and
revealing on a dude. On a dude

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I know, I know, red
shorts, short shorts with some spandex that

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may be sewn in, but isn't
coming much longer than the hem of the

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shorts. This dude is in front
of a mirror. He had to put

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this fucking outfit on and go.
I want a twenty foot radius with no

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one around me. I want to
be able to walk up to any piece

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of equipment and somebody goes, sure, here's that's all I can think this.

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I don't know his junk look like
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front of his short. Oh wow, like literally, if it was in

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the back, you'd think he had
a load. Okay, seriously, wow,

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it's all up there. And this
guy is in front of a mirror.

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So, because I normally anytime I
see somebody in a questionable outfit,

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I go do they own a mirror? Like I have seen? And you

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know what, more power to you. There would be people out there that

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would say, hey, God bless
you, you be you. I say,

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you're a fat sow and you probably
don't want to leave the house looking

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like that, and you're not healthy. Well, we can't be telling everybody

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your body's beautiful. It is.
That's fine. I'm not saying don't be

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happy. I'm just saying, for
being honest, you're probably not as healthy

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as you could be if you lost
a few lbs. Fair or not far

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fair? Because why do you think
they rebranded WeightWatchers as WW Yeah, they

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don't call it weight watchers anymore.
And I get it. I understand we

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don't need to beat people up.
That's fine. But when you wear something

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so tight that a blind man could
rub your hind end and fucking read your

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name and your fat dimples, that
do you understand what I'm saying? Like

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I've seen this and not like recently
recently, I've seen it out out.

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Yes, oh this is Jimmy.
This is a woman I saw, but

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this dude's got so now this guy
and I don't know like where to look

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exactly, but I need to move
over towards this guy. And I'm trying

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not to. And I'm seeing these
two other guys who are older than me.

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They're working out kind of together,
and they're like you could tell that

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they're noticing and kind of giving each
other the side eye, but nobody wants

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to say anything, because God forbid
you say anything. First thing I do

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is look for the cameras, right, So I go, okay, this

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guy has he's doing squats, but
he's got oh no, no, wait,

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I gotta show you. Let me
step back. He's doing squats,

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but he's doing them so there's a
barbell between his legs like this, so

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it's diagonal, and he's down and
lifting the bell and you it's like it's

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a whole fuck. This is choreographed. This is a Corey. He practiced

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this at home before he came this
idea. I don't know did he have

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makeup on? Uh? Not that
I not that I saw, Okay,

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not that I were there any like
phones set up in his vicinity like on

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tripause. Oh I didn't see any
of that either, No nose phones,

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no anything. But here's my thing. If you worked at this gym and

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somebody came up and complained, or
multiple people complain, Now I don't think

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anybody will. I would like,
here's the here's the thing. This is

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fitness. And I know this is
a judgment for his zone, but well

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there should be some decorum, like
you know over here. I get it.

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My father always said he just christ
YadA. I go to the gym

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where it was like the girls are
walking around naked. I go, okay,

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okay, but you know what,
and like I I instruct boxing,

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it's mostly women. Uh yeah,
there's some outfits at fine. I see

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nothing like they spent three hours ready
to go to the gym. I see

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not. I sow and I mean
this. I'm so focused on making sure,

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to your wife's point, that when
you're punching, you're hitting with your

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first two knuckles so you don't end
up with the boxing fracture, which I've

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had several times. And you just
want to make sure right. So I'm

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focused on that. When I'm working
mitsch or looking the bag, I'm not

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looking at your ass. I don't
care. Knuckles, knuckles, knuckles,

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yeah, I don't want your but
the knuckles with this guy was a fucking

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moose knuckle right out there. It
was like it was right, hey,

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knuckle, Oh my god. I
couldn't so. I I mean I kind

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of admire the balls on the guy. Literally, I admire them. They

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were nice and clean shaven. They
wherever there was amazing. I could tell

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you don't have to stickular cancer,
right if someone complained, would you be

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comfortable speaking to this person about their
outfit? This is where it gets tricky.

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Yeah, because you want to bitch
about it all you want, but

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you don't see the thing. Well, the thing to me is like,

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I don't really care. I'm not
it's me. I'm not really offended.

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I wouldn't wear something like that,
uh, because you kind of look ridiculous

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in my opinion, But really you're
comfortable with it, and who you know,

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why do I care? However,
there could be somebody, I mean,

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people complain about shit. I wouldn't
even think to complain about so.

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And we'll get into just the way
people think a little later in the podcast,

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and I go, would you would
you do something? Now? I've

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had I do work at a gym. I work at Embody I so I

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instruct exercise boxing classes there. Primarily
I have had to talk to somebody about

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the odor that they had. Remember, Yeah, yeah, and I did.

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I just said because in that department, it is somewhat offensive to more

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people. Yeah, yeah, just
when the fans on. Yeah, I

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was I was reading my friend's manuscripts
a sudden Kevin Willie watching we got we

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got a warm front coming through,
dude, I just as it quick aside.

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I'm reading my friend's manuscript last night
and it's really touching. And he's

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he was hiking in the Anerondecks.
His dog ended up on a cliff.

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He went off to save the dog
and neither one of them can get back.

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So this is the thing. And
he's talking about out like times he

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had to really tough through. And
he uses an analogy about how he and

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his wife went to Niagara on the
Lake and they got spot treatments and he

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was really looking forward to a massage
and they asked what gender massuse? Do

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you want? What technician? And
he said, I really want to make

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sure I have a woman. And
he goes in walks a great big guy

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like big guy, and I keep
thinking to myself, I'll be fine,

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I'll be fine. He goes,
but there was something about the man hands

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and all of a sudden as he
goes, So I've got my face down

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in that little round ring and he
goes, this guy rips a fart,

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rips a fart while giving me the
massage, and then in his deep voice

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and with the southing music behind him, just goes, excuse me. And

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he's like, but now I'm stuck
there and the stench is right in my

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face, and I got my face
in the ring, and I go But

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this is what he's thinking about as
he's on the side of I forget the

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Mountain of Mohawks, Mountain Mohawk,
something in the Adirondacks, trying to save

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his dog from a cliff. This
is in the manuscript. I was fucking

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roaring. It's like eleven thirty at
night. I'm in bed reading that.

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It's like, oh, this is
great, go to your happy place.

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Yes, but but odor is a
bad thing. The outfit, it's almost

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like it's not, you know,
nothing sticking out and everything's covered. I

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don't would you ever do something just
as uncomfortable as you feel in other words,

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like start engaging this person in conversation. Maybe pulling your pants up to

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like you're junk, you know,
like like you're wearing your like your trunk

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short trunks up to your nips.
Little and then start taking your shirt off.

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It's stretching out like like almost like
where what you carries to play those

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crazy characters in a little color?
Yes, so how much you like make

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them uncomfortable so maybe they'll leave and
they're like, man, what's wrong with

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this guy? What the reality is? You know, you're in control and

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it's them the whole time. I
don't know. I don't think I could

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do that either. Okay I could. I couldn't do that. I might

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be able to now. I did
say to somebody today that I have my

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balls hang out of my pants in
a bar. That's not surprising, like

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I just like and they go,
it's a woman, and I don't know

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how this came up and something,
and I go, well, yeah,

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I've heard of that kind of stuff
and they go really and I go,

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yeah, I mean I let my
balls hang out in the bar and she

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goes, what And I said,
yeah, She's like, how do you

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do that? When you're saying I
go, no, you're standing up,

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you gotta fly. You just flop
your balls out and tuck everything else back.

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And then you just sit there drinking
and don't say a word. You

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say nothing, not a thing,
and then all of a Suddeny's talking and

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you'll see, you'll they snap like
you wanted. Some people go boa like

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when they notice that your balls are
hanging out. Go you know, those

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are the old day, Those were
the old days, Daddy, those are

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the night should have never stopped,
Billy. I might have been early two

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thousands. I think I was.
I might have been married. Four Zuckerberg

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ruined our lives was with Facebook topics. Wow, I'll tell you this.

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There was no no pictures, no
pictures. I had no pictures of my

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balls hanging out. Okay, but
however I would moon constantly while I'm the

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Saint John Fisher University campus. And
I remember my we went away on a

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ski trip and my buddy's mom really
wanted the same pictures and he had developed

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and she's going through and there's my
furry as. Back then, you really

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had to work for it to get
pictures. Yeah, you had to work.

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You did have to work, all
right. Reality TV drama that we

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have created and it is not this
guy in his red shorts working out at

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an area gym. Okay, and
if you if you work at this gym,

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you know this guy because you've seen
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not see this guy. Oh,
is he like one of those Rochester characters.

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No, he's not even a character. It's just like you can't be

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in that same space and not see
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arresting leaning you stop, come stop. Reality TV show drama. We have

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a friend that is working right now
currently on a reality TV show in Miami

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for Netflix. And the reality TV
show is got some pretty well known names

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in it, but it's more about
the wives of these well known names.

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Okay, so like o Cho Sinko
is in it, but it's more about

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his wife running a business or his
girlfriend running a business. And I think

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minority female owned entrepreneurship is sort of
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I think, I'm not I'm not
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wags wives and girlfriends. Yes,
wives and girlfriends. So I get a

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text the other day and I then
included you as part of my research in

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this on a text I saw that, yeah, which you didn't respond to,

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but I wasn't wasn't addressed. I
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you in on it, just thinking
that maybe you would then be inspired to

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do something. But apparently not,
so I'm fucking with you. Fuck.

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So, Robbie Chosen Anderson was a
receiver with the Jets, and then he

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was a receiver with Miami. And
I remember him because he had a long

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neck, a tattoo kind of up
around his collarbone neck, lower neck,

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and I remember him on the Jets. I just remember thinking that guy could

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be he was tall, maybe like
six or four I'm thinking, and I

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don't know. I didn't look up
any stats. So I get a thing

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saying did he end up with Carolina
at one point too? Yes? Yes

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he did. OK. Can you
find if I find out if Robbie Chosen

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Anderson is on an NFL team this
season? So I do some research on

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the internet. You can pretty much
find anything. And the last I can

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see was that he was with Miami. He was released sometime mid season,

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but brought back on the practice squad, and then in December, when Tarik

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Hill got hurt, he was called
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one game where he had maybe a
couple of yards, next game, no

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yards, but left with a concussion. I played majority of the game and

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left with the concussion. And all
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I'm not seeing whether or not Robbie
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not. Now the conclusion would be, yeah, he's still on Miami.

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But I'm going you were on the
practice squad, you got no yards.

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When he got in a game,
you got no real yards. The other

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time you got hurt. I'm not
sure if this guy's on or not.

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So I reach out to you and
Peter Montemerno. Yeah. Peter comes back

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and says, talk to three people
that are have connections to the NFL.

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Two of them say he's with Miami. One says he doesn't have a team.

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And then I get a text from
Peter, not on the Fins.

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He's not on the Dolphins. Okay. So I call our mutual friend who's

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producing this show for Netflix, and
I say, Robbie Anderson is not on

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a team, not on the Dolphins
anyway, and she says, oh,

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okay, because he's trying to flex
on us. Now, I don't know

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if Robbie was part of this,
or Robbie's significant other is part of this

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or not. So today I get
a text saying that you have helped launch

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an entire reality TV storyline. And
she sent a voice message. She sends

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that text and I go, you're
kidding Robbie Anderson. So I guess they

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went to Robbie and said, Robbie, we know you're not on a team.

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You're telling us you're on a team
and that you're gonna be heading off

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like they're doing all. I guess
she said to me, they're doing all

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this stuff where, yeah, Robbie's
gonna be leaving in a couple of weeks,

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he's got to go to OTA's and
you know, all this stuff.

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And she's like, but it's all
like posturing, and she goes, something's

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not adding up, and I go, yeah, I don't. I don't

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think dude's on the team. So
that's when I did the research. That's

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when I all back. Now,
I say no, So, uh,

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she sends me things saying she talked
to Tarik Hill. Oh really, Yes,

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she spoke with Tarik Hill, who
is considered maybe the best at his

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position in the NFL. He said
one of the firsts Well, he's definitely

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the fastest. Yeah, and he's
one of the best, Okay, one

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of the best of the receiver position. And Tarik Hill. So she says,

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Robbie chose, and Anderson is telling
people he's on the Dolphins, but

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and he goes, he's trash.
Tarik Hill goes, she's trash. He's

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trash, like he goes, I
don't like him. So I guess now

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because of that. Tonight for the
reality show, they're filming a party scene.

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They're going to some party and because
of this storyline, tek Kill and

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his wife are going to go.
So I think Robbie's gonna be there,

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and Tarik it sounds like it's gonna
confront Robbie about saying he's on the team

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and he's not. Andik knows he's
not right. But all this got uncovered

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because well none, I mean,
all I did was ask Peter and Peter

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it was really Peter, It's really
I wonder why you were texting Peter and

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like you had me because because that
was the last text was a joint text.

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Oh okay. I also figured,
but though Peter might know something like

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you might have some inside information.
Well that's what Peter wikipedia other people,

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and I looked. I looked through
all the stuff I could find, and

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I thought Peter's gonna get have them. There's I could I could contact a

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bunch of people. But I know
this. If I said to Peter,

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don't say anything, don't don't tell
anybody we found this out, I don't

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want to. He would if I
say to other people that I know they

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were connected, I don't trust that
they're going to keep their mouth shut.

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Hey man, I found that out
front Netflix show Man and go, Okay,

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that's not what I want at all. So it's but I mean,

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I don't know. Maybe he's trying. Maybe maybe Robbie Anderson's trying to talk

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it into reality. You know what
this is like? Speak, Yeah,

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speaking into exis like you hate to
get on the team. Well, I

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hate those people. Always the idea, how good do you have to be

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to suck at the NFL? You
know, yeah, how good you have

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to be to suck, to be
excellent, to suck at the NFL.

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And Robbie he's not a terror.
He wasn't rib was starter with the Jets.

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I think he was hen Carolina.
The problem is he was. He

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was a head case in the NFL. You have a short shelf life,

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like if you get like the average
NFL career I think is like three and

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a half to four years, less
though it used to be two but I

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don't might it might even be less
than that. So uh yeah, so

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we started this thing and we'll find
out tonight. But I go, this

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is kind of like your friend who's
like, yeah, I mean I worked

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in it, and then you find
out their biggest technical challenge is resetting your

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router in some way, like you
know what I mean, imaginary technician is

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what you really are. So I
don't know what Robbie Anderson, what what's

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happening? But Robbie, Robbie the
Chosen. I think the name chosen rubs

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to rekill the wrong. Oh I'm
sure it does. I mean, who

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who called themselves the chosen? Especially
when you're like middling receiver at best.

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But here's the funny thing. So
you've ever been to a party where there

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are some professionals there. I'm sure
you've been to quite a few of them,

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and somebody says, you know,
I do this, and then someone

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who actually really does that, Oh
you do? Oh? Like what do

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you do? So I had I
have a friend who's a pilot, like

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a Bonti fied pilot, right,
that's his job, and another mutual acquaintance

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of ours that was dated this guy
who also claimed to be a pilot,

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and my pilot front said, oh
you are okay. So he's not assuming

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that he's not a pilot. He
just said. She starts asking these pilot

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questions and the kid couldn't answer the
questions. Not to mention, the kid's

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also dating a woman who's like twenty
years older than him, has a lot

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of money, has had some work
done, and so he's kind of like,

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you know, social climbing his way
up a little bit. And he's

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like and all of a sudden,
he couldn't answer these simple basis your friend

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cock block him? No, he
was just that he was just talking to

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him about being a pilot, and
folks, sure about to block a guy

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from the cock He was already this
woman, she was parading him around like,

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here's my young study pilot. He's
he's got the he got the bomber

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jacket on, all this stuff.
Kind of pilot though, like, uh,

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privates private, he could really answer, like, my buddy's actually a

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pilot. He could he's a private
pilot. He could fly commercially, could

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do whatever he wants, but he
he flies for a certain group. Where

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is this guy, Like he didn't
even have his pilot's license, and so

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it went for being a pilot to
well, gotta work it out, Yeah

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pilot. My my uncle and cousin
are pilots, or my uncle's retired.

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But uh so I know, I
know the thing it is. It's my

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father. You used to always call
it being a glorified bus driver. We

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had another friend who tried to play
the military card once, you know,

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like military they have these special coins, like if you served a certain brigade

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or something, and sometimes they'll pass
them out to friends. It's a bad

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one and yeah, you can't do
that. Yeah, he pulled the coin

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out. They go, what brigade
were you in? Well? I was,

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it was it was a friend to
mider, gave me this. But

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you can't win that out. Yeah
you don't whip that out. Go oh,

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I have one because my friend served. Yeah, I know exactly what

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that is. My buddy was there. You're always better off being honest in

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those situations. Yes, when you
try to pretend you're more than you are,

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you know, always end up getting
blown away every time. Every time

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I want it doesn't pay, you
know, it does not. Uh you

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know you mentioned a woman who had
some work done and stuff. Uh,

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we're going to get into and this
will be the last day for a while

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that I talked about Sandra Doyley.
But there were comments written, a voicemail

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left, and I want to address
all these. However, I will say

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this to the Quotella Center for Plastic
Surgery. Why are you starting to laugh?

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I'm not, Yes, you are. You're starting the case. No,

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I don't know where you're going.
No, I am saying, but

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that's a heck of a jump.
Well, well, here's why I I

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have If you have any marketing savvy
whatsoever, Sandra Dorley has had work done,

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she has had it done at the
Quetella Center, and she has posed

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before and after for their social media. I didn't know this, I have

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it got sent to me. What
I'm saying is, if you have any

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marketing savvy, now you jump on
this while it's hot, and you get

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a billboard and you put up Sandra
Dorley and you put the caption the Quetellas

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Center for Plastic Surgery. We're so
good. Won't make you look excellent on

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bodycam? Huh? That woman looked
great on a body cam, on a

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fucking body camp. I was at
a self check out today. I looked

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up, I go God, damn, I gotta go to the play.

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I gotta go get the right.
You look like you go brought the fuck

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right. She looked great, and
she looks incredible. She looks incredible.

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She sat down with the ten NBC. Yeah, and uh, people were

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waiting on that too. I'm sure, I'm sure, and I have it

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all egg from all I have,
not just about her. I have a

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lot to say. I have a
lot to say. But I didn't realize

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she had plastic surgery. And I'm
sin no, she did, and she

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she had was because of her because
of her cancer? No, oh was

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it sure? I don't know that
it's because of fucking gravity and age.

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Okay, and why else would you? Right? She had like what they

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would call a turkey neck. She
had a deep neck contour. And I'll

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tell you what you can set.
You can look at her and go,

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this is a sixty plus year old
woman that has had work done. But

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it isn't it's really great work.
Like she looks great. And I'm just

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saying, Quitella center, you you
absolutely should that work is. It's practically

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flawless. She looks fantastic, and
I think she had her eyes lifted up.

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I think she had a very slight
thing and she had the deep neck

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contour. I will show you.
People have sent me the side by side

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and I will show it to you. The hair restoration, like don't you

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do that? They do that for
men as well. Yeah, that's part

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of plastic surgery. I hadic surgery
when I was a kid. I ripped

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my fell off a bike and I
ripped my face from here all the way

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down to here. And the lady
next door was from Ireland and she's like,

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you have to take him to a
plastic searcheon. And they took me

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to a plastic surgeon just to make
sure it healed properly. I've not been

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to plastic surgery for anything. This
mug is like a fucking Catchers myth.

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But that's uh all right, Yeah, what she looks fantastic. And all

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I'm saying is, if you have
any marketing savvy with telecenter, put that

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on a billboard now. Put it
on a billboard now, or bring it

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here to BILLI find. Well yeah, but I'm just saying, like,

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put it up, do something with
that. Because you got the side by

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side. It's excellent work. I
will show you when we take a moment

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Danny, and then I'm gonna put
it up on the on a screen too

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when you watch them later, but
I'll let you see it. And then

407
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lots of comments about what we've talked
about with Sandra this week, and we

408
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:56,960
will get into all that next.
But first, Danny, did you know?

409
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Yes, did you know? Ahead
the month of May not only is

410
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Mother's Day coming up, but it
is also Nurses Appreciation Week coming up that

411
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begins on May sixth. But this
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Appreciation Week, and my wife's said, yeh, look who dropped the ball?

413
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420
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And the other thing is Mother's Day. Gotta get mom something? Why not

421
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give mom or mother in law or
well, that's up to you. I'm

422
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just saying that's up to you.
The Mother's Day gift I want. Here's

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425
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That's a pretty big honor. That's
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426
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427
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430
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Nurses would greatly appreciate it. So
you got little kids they can't afford,

431
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so you know, dad step up
and help out absolutely well yeah,

432
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yeah, yeah, yeah, you
know. Yeah. I hear young one

433
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help help a mother out because I
used to sell one of my kids get

434
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older. I go, you're not
my mom. Oh we got a guy

435
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right here. He sits across from
mom. Yeah, I gotta, I

436
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gotta boy. He's gonna save a
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437
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439
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440
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441
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442
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443
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444
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you here's one of my I'm gonna
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445
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vulnerable. I am a huge yacht
rock fan. There are times I just

446
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throw on the yacht rock station on
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447
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448
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deck. They've had an influx of like

449
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one hundred plus dogs at Lollipop Farm. So Yacht Club will donate a percentage

450
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of the door and it's like five
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451
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at Lollipop Farm. So I think
that's fantastic. I love dogs, I

452
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love yacht rock. I may have
to head over to Iron Smoke Distillery.

453
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454
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are a fantastic duo and you're gonna really

455
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457
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458
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this weekend. Friday is a Bark
in the Park game Saturday. Help you

459
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divide the city and get a free
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460
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462
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Last Time I Believe is a song
by The Stones, and this song its

463
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:55,359
bid the Fast Time. Okay,
I'm pretty sure because everyone when they got

464
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,599
sued, well they got sued,
you know, it's the lawyers. And

465
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:01,279
then after twenty years Mickey Keith go
ah fuck yeah, they pulled out.

466
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:07,279
They no longer get writing credit on
the song they did for twenty years and

467
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:09,799
they don't know. They both said
no, which, by the way,

468
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,880
we are living in an amazing age. I showed Danny the work with Santa

469
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,319
Doorley night and day. Yes,
right, night and day. You go

470
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,839
from like what we all knew as
a woman in her later years to hot.

471
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,519
Yeah, all right, she looks
fantastic. Quit Tella Center did an

472
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,799
unbelievable job. Like there are times
you look at people you go go to

473
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,079
la, go to la. I'll
show you some that work. But this

474
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,559
but this is great. I mean, she looks fantastic. But I'm going

475
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,599
we're living like in the age of
the milf right now, Like you can

476
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:51,960
you can be hot right up until
until you're in the grave. Yeah,

477
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:54,640
I think so. Like I'll tell
you who looks great? Woman you can't

478
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:01,039
stand Nancy Pelosi. I gotta say
she does. He looks fantastic. But

479
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:05,559
at the same time, since we're
talking about the stones, because he's drinking

480
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,680
all the blood of all those people. This is this is Mick Jagger,

481
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,000
eighty year old Mick Jagger getting ready
for a show. I think this is

482
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,920
in Houston with his backup singers backstage, just two of them and Mick.

483
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:22,000
I know, you think the queen
of the land the ground. He's eighty.

484
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:36,319
You can Simon Flowers every morning.
Simon Flowers by the male. It

485
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,480
doesn't selling any eighty year old I
knew. No, I mean, well,

486
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Simon flowers to my they have that
traveling gym that goes with the miner.

487
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,839
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised
if, like, I'm not saying

488
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,359
there's anything wrong with doing this on
our doctor's care. But I wouldn't be

489
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,839
surprised if he's on like HGH or
still probably he probably is, you know,

490
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,319
but I remember Tommy Burnett saying that
they were backstage and they were saying

491
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,440
like mix coming through. Nobody looked
look at him. I don't think Tommy

492
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,799
was backstage with his some version.
I don't know if it was his band,

493
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,599
No, I don't think it was. I think it was the Tommy

494
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:14,119
Burnett Bank and then uh Andy Babby
Yuke wrote a whole book on their equipment

495
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:17,920
and toured with the Stones. So
don't look at me. Well, I'm

496
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,880
sick already. Vedder tells this great
story about how he's supposed to join the

497
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,599
Stones for a song from and he's
like, wait, do I go on

498
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,639
now? And then and then Keith
told him all he's believeing me. Hanging

499
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:37,000
mate forever, h Sander Dorley.
Sorry, I'm the Da. I was

500
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,719
going fifty five coming home from work. Okay, oh, just drive it

501
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,639
fifty five all right. So I
got a lot of feedback on the comments

502
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:53,000
we made, and people thought that
basically too easy and too light. I'll

503
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:58,639
read you one. We're talking about
Monday show or too yeah, Monday Show,

504
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:01,960
Monday show that I called Doorley Dash. It was episode three fifty nine.

505
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Okay, want to go back?
Yeah, okay, So Wendy wrote,

506
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,840
I listened to the podcast the title
Doorley Dash. I felt you guys

507
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,760
were easy on her. You know, if that were anyone else, it

508
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,920
would have played out differently. The
fact that she does her job goes without

509
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,559
saying. Bill, I thought you
especially were way too easy. I expected

510
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,440
you to say more about her behavior
and I so I wrote back, and

511
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,559
I go, this has made me
take pause and think, I guess I

512
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,320
was easy on Da Doorley. Everyone
was saying that if this is if this

513
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:45,320
were you and I, we would
have been in bracelets. If I lean

514
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,760
back into my car, I would
have been dragged out of out and thrown

515
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,760
on the ground. If I went
into my house like d A. Dorley,

516
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,599
I would have had a gun on
me. Maybe all those things may

517
00:35:55,639 --> 00:36:00,920
have happened. Then we got this
comment too, Hey Bill, Hi,

518
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,079
I was listening to you three white
guys somewhat defending Sandrad Dorley and attributing her

519
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:12,440
bad behavior to having a bad day. My question is, what if it

520
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:16,360
was a black person, an ordinary
citizen, or even a public servant.

521
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,280
Do you think they would be treated
or looked at the same way. I'm

522
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:27,920
just asking hope to hear the answer
on your podcast. Great podcast. Yeah

523
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,320
bye. First of all, I'm
not white. I'm gonna tell you all

524
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:38,119
right, so all right here,
I'm gonna tell you why. The more

525
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,960
I think about it, and the
more I hear that, and the more

526
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:46,199
that argument gets thrown up, and
I say, it holds no water,

527
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,599
right, And I'm going to tell
you why it holds no water because it's

528
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:54,800
an impossibility. It's an impossibility.
It wouldn't happen. You're right if it

529
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,599
were a black person. But if
it were a black da who called maybe

530
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,079
the same thing would have happened.
Yeah, you have to make an apple

531
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,079
couple, can't. You cannot make
the comparison. You can't stand in here

532
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,360
and go if this were me,
it ain't you motherfucker. You didn't go

533
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,440
to law school, you didn't be
a DA for many many years. You

534
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,840
don't have that. And I'm sorry, but you can't be like a little

535
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,039
kid going, hey they got ice
cream and I didn't. That's not how

536
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,840
the world works. It's just not. And so everybody who's out there going,

537
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,239
well, this would have happened and
this, yeah, maybe it would

538
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,760
have. Don't be an asshole.
She was an asshole. I've called that

539
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,519
out. She was an asshole.
She's even said she was an asshole.

540
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,440
She used harsh language. Somebody on
this podcast, I'll just say Matt Reese,

541
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,119
who is a manager of bTB has
been in the hospitality business since he

542
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,920
was nineteen years old, said,
this is clearly someone a person who's been

543
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,480
drunk. This is a drunk person. That's what he said. This is

544
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,360
someone who's been drinking. Now,
I'll play a little bit in a minute

545
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,920
of the Jen Luki stuff, but
I because she's asked directly that and she's

546
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:05,280
says no, but I went back
through and then spliced into a video that

547
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,599
you can see on my social media, Matt saying she was drinking and me

548
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,199
going, I never thought that.
I would have never thought that, because

549
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,039
she doesn't come off as drunk,
she comes off as belligern. But he's

550
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,000
like, never gets close to the
cop, doesn't want him to smell her,

551
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,280
goes in her house, does all
this stuff, and he's like that

552
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,079
that's why the behavior. Now,
somebody else wrote to me, going,

553
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:29,440
please, I know this family,
don't say that that's ridiculous. Maybe,

554
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,360
but again, if nothing makes sense, something makes sense. This is a

555
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,760
person of high stature in our community
who absolutely acted like the worst you can

556
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,719
act. I mean, this was
the worst. If we saw this display

557
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,119
in public, we'd be like,
you wouldn't want to be friends with that

558
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:46,840
person. You'd be embarrassed to be
around them. Am I wrong? That's

559
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,599
an embarrassing thing to watch. However, to say that she got away with

560
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:54,280
it, and I, yeah,
she did. You know why because she's

561
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,760
the DA, she's able to call
the cop. I was Bill Moran on

562
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,920
the radio and I got out of
tickets. I did get pulled over.

563
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,760
I pulled over and then we go, hey man, slow down, love

564
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,280
your show. I would get that. See you when I got pulled over

565
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,000
on the break extra tickets not all
the time talk like that. I go,

566
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,920
okay, but uh is that fair? No, it's I guess you

567
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,079
could say it wouldn't be, but
you would never know. And it's it's

568
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,199
sort of the perk of being the
DA. Everybody's got a perk. Don't

569
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,400
tell me if that if you can
call pull strings, you will. Why

570
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,400
do people buy those cop stickers and
put them in their car. They're not

571
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,440
donating to the PBA, you understand, right. So I have a friend

572
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,199
who got pulled over by a state
trooper who had a stick around and they

573
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,400
go, who do you know?
And the person said so and so,

574
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,400
and they go, really, give
me your phone. I want to see

575
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,519
their number in your phone. And
the person had it in the phone and

576
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:50,719
they left and with them and yeah, but I'm just saying, like,

577
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,239
so, I mean, but why
do we do that? Why does anybody

578
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,480
do it? You do it because
you want a little bit of power.

579
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,159
If Sandra Dorley got I could here's
the thing. You knew she was in

580
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:05,079
the threat when she pulled in.
She yeah, she's a woman who had

581
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,800
plastic surgery who got out of her
car and immediately says, I'm the DA

582
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,719
and I'm on the phone with your
boss. Do you think that she's going

583
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,800
in to reach for a gun in
her car? No? Do you think

584
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,679
she's going in? No? At
this point, that guy's going on.

585
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,559
Fuck. I hope I don't get
yelled at by my chief. That's what

586
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:23,960
I think he's thinking. He's not
worried about what she's doing. So you

587
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,360
can say, if this were you
or me, you can't do that.

588
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,280
Stop living your life where you're looking
about. I didn't get it. They

589
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,639
got it. I didn't get Stop. It's not about what anybody else gets.

590
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,440
It's only about you, and it's
about how you handle things, and

591
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,480
you can get whatever you want.
You chose not to be a DA,

592
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,800
you chose not to go to law
school and then be a DA. A

593
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,960
lot of people don't want to be
a DA. I know guys who have

594
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:51,559
left the DA's office and make millions
of dollars, literally millions of dollars.

595
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:55,239
One is that in your chair?
Oh yeah, yeah, was a DA?

596
00:40:55,039 --> 00:41:00,239
Now? Yeah not not greg No. But I'm just saying, like,

597
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,800
so, there's people kind ofnice office. I'm underw F and they leave,

598
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,800
they leave, and that's what it. Sandra could leave and probably make

599
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,280
way more money. Oh yeah,
way more money. I'm not if you

600
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,199
think I was soft on her.
Here's why this isn't a big deal.

601
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,599
It's a fucking traffic stop and a
snobby bitch. That's what it is.

602
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:22,119
It's a snobby bitch. I have
no other way to say it. I

603
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:24,239
mean, she was a bit of
a snobby. And I want to go

604
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,840
back to Greg's point he made on
Monday Show where he said, you know,

605
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,760
everybody's looking for vengeance. They didn't
get something somewhere, so now they

606
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,679
want to exact vengeance for where they've
been wronged on a public example like this.

607
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,920
And I'm telling you, and I
agree with Greg, and I'm telling

608
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,039
you this Rochester, be careful for
what you wish because you might just get

609
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:46,480
it. Oh. If this poor
woman gets like taken out of office and

610
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:52,000
replaced by the governor, we're worse
for its better potentially. Yeah, I

611
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,519
guarantee it would say that she's a
hell of a DA and Mike Green was

612
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,840
a hell of a DA, and
Howard Rellan was a hell of a DA.

613
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,840
We have a great track record of
great da to fight crime that continue

614
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,760
to stack up, but in this
area because of New York's crooks. But

615
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,079
Danny, here's the thing is,
like, I'll go back to this individual

616
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:14,119
case with Thorley. Well, I
got people going, yeah, she's practiced

617
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,280
his law. What she knows it's
a slam dunk case. How do you

618
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,519
My question is, And I didn't
want to get into any pissing match with

619
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:29,440
anybody, but I I really,
really really tried, if nothing else to

620
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,360
show. I don't say this because
now I'll sound like an asshole, but

621
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,960
to try to think, to try
to ask anybody to think, I don't

622
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,920
know what a slam dunk case is. I would think that there's really no

623
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:42,760
such thing as a slam dunk case. I'll use OJ as an example only

624
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,079
because it's the biggest one that everybody
was just talking about since his passing.

625
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,199
I think most people thought that was
a slam dunk case. It wasn't,

626
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,760
No, clearly, So I don't
believe there's there's a slam dunk case for

627
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,000
you to say she only does slam
dunk cases. How have you ever tried

628
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,320
a case? Have you ever been
a lawyer, have you ever been a

629
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,880
you been to anybody a fucking clerk
that filed in there? Do you know

630
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,760
anything about the law and any of
that stuff. I don't, So therefore

631
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,840
I'm not going to comment on that. I don't. I don't think she's

632
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,719
only tried slam dunk cases. I
think she puts her heart out there and

633
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,239
really tries to fight for the victims
and their families, right, or for

634
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,719
the people who are victims who have
survived crimes and victims who have not,

635
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,360
and then for their families. But
this case, this became a pissing match.

636
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:30,440
Stand over here, I'm not doing
it right. It became a pissing

637
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,039
match, that's all it was.
And I will say that I understand the

638
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:36,760
theory of what's good for the goose
is good for the gander, in other

639
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,119
words, meaning one person's situation should
be treated the same way that another person

640
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:45,239
or situation is treated. However,
stop looking at what everybody else is getting.

641
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:47,400
It's never going to be the same. It's just not so to tell

642
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,159
me that three white guys talking about
it. Yeah, three white guys talking

643
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,320
about it, And I think any
let's just just say three guys, three

644
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,079
people, three people should be able
to look at this and go. You

645
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,559
can't say it that way. It'll
never be. It will never be.

646
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,400
If you had the chief's phone number
on speed dial in your phone, where

647
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,320
you could go, you know,
just say hey, whatever your device is.

648
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,599
I don't want to say it because
it'll set off your phone call so

649
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,079
and so you would, any one
of us would. It's like I said,

650
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,239
four out of five people who've been
criticizing this situation in the soon,

651
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,039
I'll give you an example. I'll
give you an example. I've done it

652
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:30,400
myself. I've done it myself.
A couple of years ago, I got

653
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,159
into a car accident in my car. I was not driving, somebody else

654
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,480
was driving. The person who hit
us was intoxicated. I just knew that

655
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:45,840
the person who was driving my car
was well known, is well known in

656
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:52,440
this community. And I was standing
there and my wife at the time was

657
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,159
in the car, and we got
hit kind of twice. As the car

658
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,000
spun around. The airbag had started
to deflate. My wife was a little

659
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:04,320
bit injured. She was being attended
to by amts, and the person who

660
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,639
was driving the car was being detained
by police for questioning and stuff. And

661
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,880
I stayed I was behind the drivers
in the driver in the passenger seat,

662
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,760
but behind the driver. And I
sat there and I called a buddy of

663
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:22,000
mine who was just getting off his
shift, and I said, TV's going

664
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,400
to show up, and I don't
want my name associated with this, and

665
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,199
I don't want my buddy's name.
And they came and they got us out

666
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,719
of there quietly and quickly. We
were not at fault. We did not,

667
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:37,039
There was nothing, There was nothing
that would be anything bad, right.

668
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,480
I just did not want the drama. I did not want my name

669
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:43,159
associated on accident. I don't want
my kids hearing about it and want the

670
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:45,079
teachers asking them. I didn't want
anything. I just wanted to go.

671
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:51,800
So I did what Sandra Dorley did. Now any finds that I got none,

672
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,719
and neither did the person driving my
car. And it was not our

673
00:45:53,719 --> 00:46:00,480
fault. This other person was drunk
and hit us. But I got out

674
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,639
of there because I had somebody's number, and I did. They came and

675
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,519
scooped us up, and off we
went. We were gone. Once everything

676
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,159
was clear. They're like, yeah, would have done the same. Well.

677
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:13,719
All I'm saying is that if you
have the ability, if you had

678
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,960
the ability to get backstage at a
concert because you know somebody, you're probably

679
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,920
gonna do it if it's an artist
you really like. Is that fair?

680
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,079
Does everybody else get to be treated
that way? Hey? Does the black

681
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,840
guy get to go? No?
Do you understand what I'm saying? Like,

682
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,480
that's why this argument that you have. I understand that we want our

683
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,000
elected officials to behave better right.
Tell you what, had she pulled over,

684
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,480
she probably wouldn't have gotten a ticket
because she does know the chief,

685
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,519
and she probably would have we would
have never heard of this. But she

686
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:45,280
didn't. She acted like an asshole, plain and simple. Yeah. Yeah.

687
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,559
Here she is talking to Jen Loki
for TENBC. Sandra, I'm gonna

688
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,039
start with a question. I think
everybody wants to know, why didn't you

689
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:58,519
stop? I have no good answer
for that. I regret what I did.

690
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,840
I am so sorry for what I
did. If I could go back

691
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,440
in time, I certainly would handle
the situation a lot differently. I wish

692
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
I could say this is why I
didn't stop, But I have no good

693
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,320
answer. I made a mistake.
What were you hoping to achieve by calling

694
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,519
the police chief three times during that
incident? So the context is you know

695
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,920
what I work with law enforcement every
single day. I have every single chief

696
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,559
cell phone in my phone. When
I realized that the officer was attempting to

697
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,079
pull me over, I wanted to
make sure by calling the chief that he

698
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:35,360
knew it was me and that I
wasn't a threat. That first call lasted

699
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,719
approximately eighteen seconds. Can I tell
you exactly what was said in it?

700
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:44,079
You know, I don't remember.
Was that the wrong decision? Obviously,

701
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,920
yes, it was wrong. I
made the wrong decision and I regret it.

702
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,639
You were trying to get out of
the ticket at that point. I

703
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,920
wanted the officer to know that I
was not a threat, and I'm sorry

704
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,559
for that. Why not just pull
over and tell him you're not a threat.

705
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,159
I don't have a good answer for
that. I made a mistake.

706
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,920
I was not thinking clearly. It
all happened so fast. If you understand

707
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,880
the area where drinking, you know, so the officer does. And I

708
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,199
know that people get mad at me
for saying that, but it just does

709
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,320
a little over a minute. The
whole thing unraveled so quickly. I made

710
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,920
a lot of mistakes. If I
could go back in time, I would

711
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:28,400
certainly stop and handle it differently.
But I didn't and I was a jerk.

712
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,840
You told the officer to quote,
get out of my house. When

713
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,000
he resisted his commands, he went
into your suv, You went into your

714
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:43,079
house, and at one point you
called him an act. Anyone else who

715
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:47,000
did that likely would have been cuffed
and arrested. Yeah, and was absolutely

716
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,719
and we knew that it wasn't a
threat. And we don't know what's going

717
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,599
on. And I really have no
words from my behavior, you know what.

718
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,519
I could tell you that I had
a bad day, there were things

719
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:04,000
on my mind, but really that
is no excuse. I was wrong.

720
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Police officers deserve to be treated with
respect. Me of all people, I've

721
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,559
been the advocate for that in this
community, and I failed immensely. I

722
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:22,119
owe that officer an apology. I
owe law enforcement an apology. I have

723
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:25,559
nothing else other than to say,
I am sorry, and it wasn't me.

724
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,920
That's not how I act. If
you saw body worn camera video,

725
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:37,320
like someone in your position who ignored
those commands, would you push to charge

726
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,360
them with more than just a speeding
ticket? What I would do if I

727
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,679
was reviewing something like this, I
would look at the whole circumstances, just

728
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,960
like we do every single case.
That comes in the office. You've got

729
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,840
to look at everything that was going
on, you know, And I think

730
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,840
that's what should be done. In
my case. We were you under the

731
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,599
influence of any alcohols, any drugs, prescription or not. That's where I

732
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:04,840
want to splice them. Where she
yelled, Oh my god, whatsoever?

733
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,360
I left work at you know,
five twenty and went right home. No

734
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:14,559
illegal drugs. I'm always on prescription
chemotherapy drugs that I take, you know,

735
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,519
at least three to four times a
week, but not under the influence

736
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:21,840
of any that nothing, nothing illegal, and nothing that I believe would have

737
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,960
affected, you know, my ability
to make a decision. I was stupid,

738
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:28,840
you know, Jen. There's there's
nothing else I could say. And

739
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,880
I regret what I did and I'm
really sorry for it. So I kind

740
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,760
of cut there. I'll play one
other piece. I've watched those those shows,

741
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,400
Danny, you have too Blue Bloods. I know your wife watches CS.

742
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,639
They all have bottles in their desk. They d a when they sell

743
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:49,840
they got bottles or something there.
I've seen it. So here's where my

744
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,920
head went. I don't know,
Like, first of all, I didn't

745
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,079
want to believe the drinking thing I
still don't. She brought the chemotherapy pills,

746
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,199
which I don't think is relevant to
this less one thing. And you're

747
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,559
gonna laugh at me, And I'm
not trying to be funny. I'm trying

748
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:07,159
to be serious. What if what
if she really had to go to the

749
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:12,119
bathroom. No, I'm not I'm
not trying to be If we hang on,

750
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:16,480
if that were the case, then
she spent a long time walking around.

751
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:22,280
The adrenaline changes. Well, it
could the adrenaline or or she's wearing

752
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,400
depends, and maybe that's why she
wanted to keep a distance, because maybe

753
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,079
there's I got it, you know, And I'm not trying to No,

754
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,440
that's true. I mean there there
are side effects to these drugs, and

755
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,519
the side effects she I think she
has a blood cancer. I'm not sure

756
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:38,239
that it's exactly leukemia or something.
I don't know. I don't I don't

757
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,039
know. I think it's in remission. But I think you're always fighting it.

758
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,280
Yes, So that's that's that's.
Uh, till your five years clear

759
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,000
of cancer, like you, you
still consider here is this is Jen Luki

760
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:52,800
asking the question. It looks like
to the community, this is a clear

761
00:51:52,920 --> 00:52:00,000
cut example of rules for the and
not rules for me. I understand that,

762
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,400
you know, especially with members of
the community. You know, for

763
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:12,079
example, white people and black people, we perceive I submit law enforcement differently,

764
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,760
the criminal justice system differently. But
all I can tell you is,

765
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,639
as a DA what I perceived.
My initial thought actually, when I saw

766
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,079
the police officer turn around, I
thought he was going off to another stop.

767
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,159
Then he got a call for service, and then when I called the

768
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,519
chief. My goal then was to
say I'm not a threat, because I

769
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,719
didn't want him to think he was
approaching a car and not knowing what to

770
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,960
expected. All right, but here's
my thing. You want to compare,

771
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,199
here's what you can compare. You
can compare your behavior to her behavior and

772
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,519
never act like her. Don't ever
act like that, because she looks like

773
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:50,840
an asshole, and she left a
bad taste in people's mouths, and some

774
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,920
people will remember that when they vote
again, and they're not going to be

775
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,400
able to look past it. But
the comparison, you're never going to get

776
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,559
a fair comparison. You just can't. It doesn't happen. Back to high

777
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:04,400
school, the honor student could get
away with anything, right, Oh yeah,

778
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,440
yeah, the kid who was usually
marginal somewhere sort of suspected a ship.

779
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,559
He was always blamed for everything.
He didn't do it right right,

780
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:16,159
That's called life. Fucking figure it
out and stop comparing. Well, so

781
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:21,559
I get handcutt. No, you
wouldn't. My father used to race cars

782
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:22,760
like as a kid. Yeah,
and used to get pulled over all the

783
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,239
time. So one time he gets
pulled over, he wasn't speeding and he

784
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,880
get in. The cop tells me, I know who you are, and

785
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:30,679
for all the times you didn't get
caught. Now, I'm not saying that

786
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,320
was right, but the point is, he goes, Danny boy, I

787
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,679
had a reputation. Yes, you
have a ticket, and look just why

788
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,880
keep your nose the da. She
had never heard a thing about her until

789
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:44,280
now. So the only people protesting
her are called criminals. She's convicted,

790
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,559
well, and people who want to
jump on this bandwagon because I got nothing

791
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:53,280
else to do some Uh So did
I go easy on Sandra Dorley? Yeah?

792
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,760
I think you're pretty fair because you
were kept you keep calling her an

793
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,199
a hole. I saw well,
I saw shin affair. I saw a

794
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:05,679
shitty behavior by a person that I
never expected to see shitty behavior by Yeah,

795
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:08,039
that's what I saw. And I
also know that I'm not her parent

796
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,000
and I'm not her significant other,
and it reflects nothing on me. And

797
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,440
so for me, all I saw
it was as comical. I could see

798
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,639
that as anybody with half a brain. That no way was she a threat.

799
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,760
She wasn't. If that's some big
burly guy who's screaming at the at

800
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,159
the cop, there's a chance he
gets taste as he goes back in,

801
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,159
because we don't know who he is. We have no idea. She got

802
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:36,559
out and handed the officer his boss
on the phone, and you can hear

803
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:38,360
him talk to him go yeah,
okay, sir, Hello sir, yeah,

804
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,280
knowing it's his boss. Right.
I bet you if the big burly

805
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,599
guy got out and goes I got
your boss on the phone, and he

806
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:49,400
takes the phone or says put it
on speaker, and then all of a

807
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,920
sudden you hear the chief's voice come
over, that guy's not getting taste if

808
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,559
he goes back in his car.
But so to make this comparison, I'm

809
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:00,039
sorry, I think that that's a
non thinking answer. I really, you

810
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,159
can say anything you want about it. We're all welcome to opinions. They're

811
00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:07,400
halfway between fact and fiction. That's
mine. I think it's a non thinking

812
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,599
answer, different angle on this.
Yeah, and our friend, we're our

813
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:14,360
old friend, Sean Carroll. He's
in Syracuse now, he's an executive producer

814
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,280
I think of a Syracuse station.
He brought this up today on Twitter,

815
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,440
and I don't know what your thoughts
are about it. And he wasn't criticizing

816
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:23,199
Jan Luki or Channel ten. He
was actually criticizing the idea of Dorley only

817
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,960
giving one interview to one outlet instead
of giving it to the DNC thirteen ten

818
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:35,559
eight all together asking questions collaboratively.
And do you think that, I mean,

819
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,639
I think that's a fair Yeah,
I think that. I don't know

820
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:39,480
how they got it. I don't
know how it goes. He goes,

821
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,880
this isn't wham by it because he
used to work at Channel thirteen. Yeah,

822
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,840
he's saying like that should should be
ABC a feeling, should everybody been

823
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,159
invited to this? I guess,
I mean he could have had a round

824
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:52,039
table. It becomes a circus.
It becomes a fucking circus. So I

825
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:55,480
think you just kind of do do
straw pole. I don't know. I

826
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,320
mean, I can understand why you
wouldn't, And I also understand why you

827
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,840
would want that if you're in the
media again comparison and not fair. Well,

828
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,000
you lost this one. No get
better relationships. I mean, I

829
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,800
don't know that the thing. I
guess I'm coming. She was pretty direct.

830
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,960
I don't know if anybody else is
going to ask any other You told

831
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,360
him for you, she says it. Yeah, I mean, like,

832
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,559
uh, she was a few beeps
short of an eminem song. But I

833
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:27,639
mean like, I don't think there's
any questions that Luki didn't ask. No,

834
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:31,480
did you think of any questions you, Danny? I am exhausted with

835
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,400
this. I'm sure everybody else is. Dude. I wanted to answer back

836
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,800
the questions the voicemail and then there
were many, but I only chose one.

837
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,159
But they pretty much were derivative of
the same thing. You went easy

838
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,280
on her. Here's why I don't
think this is a big deal. It

839
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,480
is not a criminal situation. It
is a behavioral situation. It's a manner

840
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,480
situation that somebody I wouldn't want to
be seen in public with acting that way.

841
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,480
I would be mortified if I were
with them. But this isn't in

842
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:00,440
any way, and you cannot make
the comparison one to the other. It

843
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:02,679
is not an equal situation. It
never will be. And please go back

844
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,800
in your own life and think of
the kid at school who got it.

845
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,840
Why because he was honor student captain
of the football team. Yes, that's

846
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,960
sort of the way life works,
that is, and you would take advantage

847
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,119
of anything you could be honest with
yourself. And if you don't have anything

848
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:17,280
to take advantage with, well then
you're a loser. I don't know,

849
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:22,960
I didn't know. I'm teasing,
but sort of all right, we'll take

850
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,400
a moment. What is happening on
college campuses or why is it happening on

851
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,320
college campuses? There's a lot of
pro Palestinian protesting going on. Some of

852
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,719
it seems to be getting violent,
but we are only seeing one camera lens,

853
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:37,440
you know. And some of the
things that are happening, if they're

854
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,599
really happening in the manner that is
being presented, I would say, is

855
00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:45,760
out and out racism. There's nothing
else you can call it. Kaylee is

856
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,880
a Sunny Courtland student. She's doing
an internship in Albany. She has been

857
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,519
part of some of these rallies.
She knows people who are down at Columbia

858
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:57,079
University, and I spoke with her
last night and asked her to come on

859
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:01,400
the podcast to explain why college student
are for this, what is their purpose

860
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:06,440
and do they fully understand what they're
asking to be done? And we'll get

861
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,159
into it a little bit from there, but sometimes again trying to take more

862
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:14,480
of a global look as to why
instead of going these are spoiled brats who

863
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:16,440
don't know what they're doing. Well, let's see, maybe they maybe they

864
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:21,320
want to comb yesterday. Well maybe
they think went viral. We want our

865
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,440
meal plan. Yes I know,
yeah, but you've been expelled. Get

866
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:29,599
that. We want to do what
we want our meal plan delivered. We

867
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:36,599
will be dehydrated. The school's responsibility. But the problem is humanitarian aid.

868
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:39,159
You're not being held here. You
can go get a bottle of water.

869
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:44,440
Stupid brat. Well see that,
right, So that's kind of the paint

870
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,360
the picture that gets painted. But
is there a real thought behind this?

871
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,800
We'll find out. I sten to
Kaylee next. Right now they look look

872
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,440
clueless, but I want to find
out from this woman. We'll get to

873
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,039
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874
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875
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876
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877
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878
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has evolved in twenty twenty four,
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879
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and they're still bringing out the food
truck and the food is just as delicious

880
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as it always was. You can
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881
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882
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883
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884
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885
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886
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887
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can't keep up with it all,
and you're not supposed to. You're only

888
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:53,199
human after all, you know,
you can't do everything. I'm amazed at

889
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:57,400
the number of people I say,
have you ever held a power tool?

890
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,920
And the answer back is no.
Right, Well, that's why there's Mac

891
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,079
of All Trades because if you've never
held a power tool, you probably shouldn't

892
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:10,400
start. Now. Hey, I
just got myself a couple of two by

893
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,039
four is gonna frame out a nice
thing? Here? I got some Douglas

894
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:15,920
fir. I think that'll be great
outside. No, it won't because you

895
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,400
want pressure traded number and that's why
you don't have the knowledge to do this.

896
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But Mac does five eight five two
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897
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we start thinking about entertaining outside and
we want to take advantage of the

898
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,599
short window that we have in this
part of the world. Well, Mac

899
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:32,719
of All Trades can build you an
outdoor kitchen if you wanted to, or

900
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,519
an addition on your deck, or
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901
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:39,639
deck if you don't have one.
Five eight five to zero two ninety two

902
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eighteen. You got to see some
of the work they do, and they

903
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:47,639
have pictures up at Macofolltrades dot net. It is spectacular, truly spectacular.

904
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,639
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905
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two ninety two eighteen and Mac of
All Trades dot Net come on down on

906
01:01:29,079 --> 01:01:39,119
the Don good back Lasky of My
Style. I like this. It's a

907
01:01:39,159 --> 01:01:43,039
fun record. I've heard the whole
thing. It's great. Wanting and waiting

908
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,320
from the Black Crow, brand new
record, a lot of great rock out

909
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,239
right now, Black Keys of a
great record, Pearl Jam's got a great

910
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:59,480
record, Kings of Leon's got one
coming out. Ju we do rock and

911
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:02,119
roll. Take yeah, man,
I've always been a big fan of these

912
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:06,119
guys. And then they got into
that bitter fight for a while. My

913
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:10,400
brother was it was from one I
had heard Chris wanted ninety percent, but

914
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,199
it was his what his new wife, that's his manager. Don't forget he

915
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:20,880
has a kid with uh Kate Hudson. Yeah, they have a kid together,

916
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:23,599
but this is his new wife,
supposedly his manager and stuff. And

917
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:28,320
then Rich was like, no,
man, give me a ninety percent.

918
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:34,360
I mean that's like Lou Lou Graham
with Mick Mick jokes. Yeah, so

919
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:38,159
that gets a little love. Well, you just take the whole It cost

920
01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:45,199
Lou all kinds of But the name
of the album is Happiness bastards. I

921
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:49,000
want to be a happiness beat.
I always wanted to talk to these guys.

922
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,519
I would love to fucking talk to
him because then I would also like

923
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:54,599
to say what do you think of
John Mayer? Because I am a fan

924
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:58,119
of John Mayer and I do like
his pop and I do like his rock,

925
01:02:58,159 --> 01:03:00,880
and I think he's a fantastic guitarist
and he's pretty cool and he's funny,

926
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,679
He's got a nice personality. Uh, Chris Robinson can't stand the fact

927
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:10,519
that he's part of Dead and Company. You can't really can't fucking stand it,

928
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:15,039
goes nuts over it. And uh, yeah you can find stuff if

929
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:20,000
you ever get bored and want to
look for something. But uh, and

930
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:22,960
I know John's a wearing John's like, look, man, just the way

931
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,480
it is, you know. Yeah, I dig that a lot. I'm

932
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,440
gonna get that might be uh.
I mean it sounds like it sounds like

933
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:36,960
a classic Yeah Black Crows record.
I think, well the only Black Crow.

934
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,320
Yeah, every song happiness to it, every single one of on the

935
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:45,159
records. Well that's I've been upbeaten
fun I love even a slow one serious

936
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:47,840
satellite and I so I have the
app and I can get the extra channels

937
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,480
and I'll listen to the Happy the
Happy Station. It's all upbeat and there's

938
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:55,719
happy rock, there's happy everything with
that. Uh, not happy is what's

939
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,800
for a lot of people is what's
happening on college campuses. And we're gonna

940
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,280
call Kaylee. She is a twenty
year old student I believe at Suny Cortland.

941
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,280
We will find out for sure from
Kaylee. She's been very patient.

942
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,760
She called me a little while ago
and said, Hey, I see that

943
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,880
some of your podcasts go ninety minutes. How long are we going to be

944
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:20,039
talking for and go? It's not
a lecture. We will make this work

945
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,880
for you at a shorter time.
But we're gonna let her talk and we'll

946
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,840
find out a little bit more about
Kaylee. Hello, Kaylee, Hi,

947
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,559
Welcome to the podcast. Kaylee.
We are on now, and I apologize

948
01:04:33,559 --> 01:04:39,639
for any delays tonight. Kaylee is
no. Kaylee is a Sunny Courtland student.

949
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:43,760
Correct. Yeah, And you're doing
an internship in Albany. What is

950
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,760
your internship with the New York Public
Interest Research Group. I'm a legislative intern,

951
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:53,519
a legislative intern. So are you
actually have you been down into the

952
01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:58,519
chambers or any law meetings like where
there's Yeah, so I work in the

953
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:01,719
building across the street from the Capital
Building. I go there just about daily

954
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,880
and lobby legislators and go to committee
meetings and you know, follow these people

955
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:11,400
around. What do you want to
do when you grow up? I want

956
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,000
to go into state politics. I'd
like to eventually be a senator an assembly

957
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:16,840
member, and you know, maybe
go from there. But I would like

958
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,440
to stick to New York state politics
because I'm really grateful to grew up in

959
01:05:20,519 --> 01:05:27,199
such a like beneficial political climate.
Beneficial political climate. Some people would disagree

960
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:31,639
with you, well for sure,
all right, So the reason to have

961
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:35,480
you on, and you and I
had talked about you have a very interesting

962
01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:40,159
perspective on a lot of things,
and I think that another time, I'd

963
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:44,920
love to do a podcast that to
have her back with in studio if we

964
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,000
could, that would be fun.
Yeah, But Kayleie talk to me about

965
01:05:48,039 --> 01:05:53,800
what we're seeing on college campuses,
and I think that, you know,

966
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,679
I believe, and maybe I'm wrong. Some of it doesn't make the students

967
01:05:59,719 --> 01:06:04,199
always look good, like the Columbia
student who said that they wanted the meal

968
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:08,639
plans brought out. And we're just
going to sit here and dehydrate ourselves,

969
01:06:08,639 --> 01:06:11,559
and a reporter says, well you're
not, you know, we want humanitarian

970
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:14,320
aid, and they said, well
you can get it. You're not being

971
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,800
healthier, someone can go get you
water and you can do that. Those

972
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,280
types of things in those statements by
the young lady, I don't think helped

973
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,920
the cause. Would that be fair? Yeah, yeah, definitely. So,

974
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:30,360
but what is talk about? And
we're going to let you talk and

975
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,519
then I have lots of questions and
lots of things, but talk about what

976
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:40,519
is for many people in a country
that has been support of the Israeli state

977
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:45,559
for so long, to now see
college students in support of Palestine, it's

978
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:49,880
kind of doing a one eighty for
a lot of people. Yeah, so,

979
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:53,800
you know, what we've seen recently
is a lot of you know,

980
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:59,800
gen z and college age students really
just frustrated with the system. You know,

981
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,679
we're going into our third election year
with people who you know, as

982
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:09,280
a generation generally we don't love either
candidate, and to have the Democrats,

983
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:14,639
which have largely been who we expect
to represent our perspectives on you know,

984
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,719
things like this, are the people
who are continuing to push on this narrative

985
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:27,280
that the number of you know,
Palestinian people who are being victimized versus Israeli

986
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,039
people. It's just painting, you
know, a picture that's not based in

987
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:35,000
reality. And so college students who
are you know, spending all of their

988
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:41,000
free time educating themselves and doing research
and especially as a political science student,

989
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:47,280
learning about the political history of countries
other than America. Hang on, Hang

990
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,599
on a second. College students aren't
spending all their they're doing keg stands,

991
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:58,320
and all their time they're doing butt
chugs. I was in college. I

992
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,679
know, I'm kidding. I don't
know what a bunch of so great about

993
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:08,920
this moment and this movement on college
campuses with the encampment is. We don't

994
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,199
you know, see that sort of
college culture as much. When you look

995
01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:15,399
at these protests, you see a
lot of students wearing cathias, which are

996
01:08:15,439 --> 01:08:18,960
the scarfs, and there's you know, a rule culturally if you're wearing that,

997
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:23,720
you shouldn't be drinking, you shouldn't
be smoking, and you know,

998
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,720
creates the more pure, safe,
appropriate place for students to be, which

999
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,680
really creates more frustration around the idea
that people are really trying to make those

1000
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:38,920
students out to be the people doing
the wrong. Okay. Uh, A

1001
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:45,119
lot of times when I would see
what are they called a mispronounced scars,

1002
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,439
right, Whenever I've seen those,
they were always associated, honestly with with

1003
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,119
terrorism. When I was a kid, That's who you saw taking over planes.

1004
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:57,880
I think when there was the bombing
over lockerby Scotland, I think we

1005
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:01,079
saw people in Caffia. I'm just
saying like, I think there's there's that.

1006
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,760
Uh, I want to and we'll
go back to this, but I

1007
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:13,640
want to I want you to continue
because so what is what is it that

1008
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:17,279
the students are upset with and what
are what goal? What's the end game

1009
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:23,680
for them with the protests? Yeah, so the goal, I guess of

1010
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:29,239
the students that are protesting on campus
is to get each of their individual universities

1011
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:32,960
and institutions to divest from the war. And so by divest from the war,

1012
01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:41,239
that means having the institution divest from
military equipment and weapons and technology companies

1013
01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:45,279
that are directly benefiting, you know, the aid that the US is sending

1014
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:51,680
to Israel. And then it also
means companies that are providing aids specifically to

1015
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:59,560
IDF. These really defense forces to
keep them alive and well well as they

1016
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,159
occupy high you know, palest sign
and these people comes. Okay, So

1017
01:10:04,279 --> 01:10:09,920
the goal is divestment. So divestment. Now, devestment is not an easy

1018
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,680
thing. As I was telling you
last night, I used to work for

1019
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,920
a guy who was in charge of
the Harvard Endowment and there were several people

1020
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,199
and I don't know what the Harvard
Endowment is today, but I can tell

1021
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:26,560
you back then those guys were making
like five million dollar profits for themselves on

1022
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,399
handling the endowment. It could be
a billion dollars. But now I have

1023
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,840
no idea. All I know is
that it's it's divested. So they would

1024
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:38,800
go in and then they're buying companies
and sometimes portfolios, and you're looking at

1025
01:10:39,039 --> 01:10:41,920
you know, let's get into oil
or let's get into electro, not knowing

1026
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,079
maybe exactly where the companies are.
So but to pull out of that is

1027
01:10:46,119 --> 01:10:51,760
almost is nearly impossible at times,
like you'd have to sell off sometimes an

1028
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:58,880
entire portfolio stuff to divest out that. I'm not sure that it's as easy

1029
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,920
as some of the students may may
think. Right, No, I understand

1030
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,640
that, and you know, part
of our perspective is coming from looking at

1031
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:12,159
not too long ago we were protesting
on a smaller scale, but not I

1032
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:16,199
mean, it was still a pretty
big movement being apartheid in South Africa and

1033
01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:20,479
trying to ask colleges to divest from
that, which a lot of the colleges

1034
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:25,199
that are having protests on campus right
now are colleges. Colombia is one of

1035
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:30,840
them that had divested from the South
African apartheid. And yet you know,

1036
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:35,439
Nelson Mandela was still considered a war
criminal until not too long ago. So

1037
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:42,680
okay, so let let's so the
divestment and that the fact that the Israeli

1038
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,560
state is kind of right in the
middle of the Palestinian country, which I

1039
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:51,319
believe you have hamas running like the
West Bank and the Gaza strip, is

1040
01:11:51,359 --> 01:11:56,880
more of a or maybe have it
wrong, but a government, but I'm

1041
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,279
not even sure how strong a government
for the Palestinian people. Yeah, so

1042
01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:06,960
there really isn't I mean, Palestine
is pretty much under complete government control of

1043
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:12,439
Israel, because Israel at this point
has, like I said, have occupied

1044
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,960
those states and put soldiers on street
corners outside of people's homes. So they're

1045
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:20,760
adhering to the rules made by the
Israeli government, not to say that that's

1046
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,920
the same type of governments what's going
on and what they consider to be Israel,

1047
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,880
but in the occupied West Bank and
then occupied Gaza, they're kind of,

1048
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:34,479
you know, under the jurisdiction of
the Israeli government and the idea of

1049
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:43,319
soldiers. What do you say then
to people who There's been obviously a number

1050
01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:46,760
of protests around the country, and
I think the University of Washington kind of

1051
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,119
squashed this pretty quickly. I think
they had like a hundred people and they

1052
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:55,439
arrested all of them early on because
they're like, we're not allowing this to

1053
01:12:55,479 --> 01:13:00,840
go on in our campus. And
according to the records, and I don't

1054
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,680
know how you could fudge this,
so I just say that only only twenty

1055
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:11,159
of those arrested were students. Eighty
of those were not. Yeah, so

1056
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,079
it and just if you know,
was that number like specifically students that go

1057
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:19,000
to that campus versus other people who
may have done students from other campuses or

1058
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:23,359
everyone else was not a college whatsoever, there were some that were not.

1059
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,680
I don't know, I don't know. I just know that twenty were college

1060
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,880
students on that campus. Yeah.
So, because especially as we're starting new

1061
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,560
encampments because it takes so much commitment
and so many people to do that.

1062
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,279
You know, me personally and other
friends of mine that go to these protests,

1063
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:43,000
they're getting reached out to by campuses
that aren't the campuses that we go

1064
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:46,439
to, because you know, you
need a certain amount of like manpower to

1065
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,560
get something like that started. And
so we're definitely calling on community members and

1066
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:57,880
people in the community around those colleges
also who resonate with the movement to come

1067
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,039
help us and support us however they
can. Yeah, there's definitely been people

1068
01:14:01,039 --> 01:14:06,279
who aren't students at all, so
is there so some people. So there's

1069
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:12,079
a lot of theories out there,
and there's a lot of concern because there

1070
01:14:12,199 --> 01:14:17,199
is talk of violence against Jewish students, to the point where some schools are

1071
01:14:17,239 --> 01:14:24,119
saying we can't guarantee your safety if
you're of Jewish descent or of Jewish faith,

1072
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,920
that you should just go home,
And that to me sounds like just

1073
01:14:30,039 --> 01:14:32,359
out and out racism if we're not
allowing Now. I told you when we

1074
01:14:32,399 --> 01:14:39,039
talked, there was a kid who
had this Star of David around his neck

1075
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:44,600
and he was being blocked by people
in the cadifs with from getting onto the

1076
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,039
UCLA campus or USC I don't remember
which one it was. But again I

1077
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:51,760
said to you, it's a narrow
lens, So I don't know that that's

1078
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,560
happening all the time, but that
would be the very definition of racism.

1079
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,119
And the only thing I would say
when I look at that is I go,

1080
01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:01,920
boy, I had to block a
transgender student from getting into a class,

1081
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,800
and we'll have a war on our
hands, do you know? You

1082
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,760
know what I mean? And you
would never like that would be the worst

1083
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:13,760
thing in the world. And is
that a big problem in terms of what

1084
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,760
you're seeing. Is that becoming a
bigger thing where now it's becoming where we're

1085
01:15:17,159 --> 01:15:20,920
going to prevent people of Jewish faith
who had nothing to do with anything problem,

1086
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,600
may have never even been to Israel
themselves, just happening to be descendant,

1087
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,880
you know what I mean. I
haven't been to Ireland, but I

1088
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,159
could, I could be a citizen. I'm so Irish, you know what

1089
01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:31,960
I mean. Like if all of
a sudden people went, well fuck Ireland,

1090
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,279
man, you and your Guinness get
out. You know, I couldn't

1091
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:40,319
imagine that would be that would be
racist, correct, right? No?

1092
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,520
So, and I think it's important
that we don't like I think people,

1093
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,439
especially people who are trying to you
know, gain traction in the movement,

1094
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,239
we'll try to push down stories like
that just because it's obviously not helpful to

1095
01:15:50,359 --> 01:15:55,800
us when that happens. But there's
a lot of reasons that it happened a

1096
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,159
lot of the time. Like I
said, you know, I'm someone who

1097
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,039
follows the instagram of the individual students
that are currently at encampments all over several

1098
01:16:03,399 --> 01:16:06,960
campuses. I'm currently or I'm from
Syracuse and they just started one there.

1099
01:16:09,119 --> 01:16:13,239
You know, these are not violent
protesters. These are a lot of the

1100
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,720
time students that are there singing,
dancing. They have their tents up,

1101
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,239
they're blowing bubbles, they're singing songs
together. One of my Jewish friends just

1102
01:16:20,279 --> 01:16:27,000
went for to stay at the encampment
at DCNY and they had Jewish festivities for

1103
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:30,079
Passover there. He got to have
a pass Over dinner with people at the

1104
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:33,640
encampment. Like, that's not the
sentiment that the majority of these people are

1105
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:39,680
pushing. But another thing that I've
seen in these videos is other students coming

1106
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:45,520
in one individual student who will start
chanting something that's completely not appropriate and then

1107
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,720
you watch them get shut down.
But that sort of even if one person

1108
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,800
in a crowd of a thousand people
is saying something anti Semitic, we still

1109
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:57,359
need to address that because that's still
a problem. But I don't I don't

1110
01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:00,600
think it's something that's like wide spread
across you know, lots of students that

1111
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,640
lots of campuses. I think generally
it's not the Jewish students that don't feel

1112
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:10,880
safe on campus. It's the Zionist
students and the students who believe in Israel's

1113
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,119
you know, what some would call
ethnic cleansing, and that's you know,

1114
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:18,119
a different thing than being Jewish and
identifind with that, okay, But so

1115
01:17:19,079 --> 01:17:27,199
that's interesting that you say Zionis and
ethnic cles cleansing, would you So there

1116
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:31,279
are those that would say that you
are protesting on behalf of a country that

1117
01:17:31,279 --> 01:17:36,319
would not allow protests to happen,
Right, You're protesting on behalf of a

1118
01:17:36,359 --> 01:17:42,199
country that some of the people at
the protest would be killed because they're they're

1119
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:47,520
either gay, or transgender or black. And that does that ever play into

1120
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,520
anybody's mind a little bit like,
well, I don't want to support that,

1121
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,239
Well, no, I think that's
a genuine perspective. I also think

1122
01:17:56,279 --> 01:18:00,800
that as Americans, and I think
you know, some people are more prone

1123
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,199
to like want to care about some
of the American ideals that we have here,

1124
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:06,319
and some of those things are really
important. You know. As someone

1125
01:18:06,359 --> 01:18:11,319
who's LGBTQ plus, I know that
I can't go exist in a Muslim country

1126
01:18:11,319 --> 01:18:15,840
and have that be okay. But
it's about, you know, spreading the

1127
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,680
ability to do that, in the
freedom to have that choice. We want

1128
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:23,239
to liberate Palestine to be able to
do that, and so pushing for their

1129
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:26,960
freedom, you want their freedom speech, Well, what are we freeing them

1130
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:34,279
from Hamas Palace? I know,
right? But Hamas would be the ones

1131
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:39,479
where you couldn't you can't probably,
I mean, there's very little Tom can't

1132
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:45,079
do anything. If you're saying,
like the Muslim religion is not so much

1133
01:18:45,119 --> 01:18:47,720
accepting of like Western ideals, you
know, that's like a different, right

1134
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:53,159
cultural thing. So I'm saying the
country itself right now, under the rule

1135
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:57,680
that it has is not accepting of
those things. You couldn't do what you're

1136
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:04,079
doing in that country at this moment, right, And yeah, I mean,

1137
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,640
and so that I just say,
like to me, that that's a

1138
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,239
little bit of a concern, and
I understand what you're saying. The numbers

1139
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:16,000
do seem to shift a lot,
like on both sides, I'll hear forty

1140
01:19:16,039 --> 01:19:19,439
thousand Palace days were killed, or
I'll hear eighty thousand. I don't know,

1141
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,640
and I have no way of counting
there are there are different numbers.

1142
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,920
Could there ever be in your mind
a chance to say, maybe we need

1143
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,439
to get Palestine a government where everybody
could live in peace, because I think

1144
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:42,039
from what I understand about Hamas and
maybe I'm completely wrong and uneducated on this,

1145
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:47,159
but I get the impression in that
from like the cradle to the grave,

1146
01:19:47,399 --> 01:19:53,960
it's the Jews or evil. Yeah, I mean, I don't think

1147
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,520
that that's a perspective. Like I
said, I have friends that are parts

1148
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,319
of you know, groups that are
specifically Jewish people for Palestine and people who

1149
01:20:01,319 --> 01:20:06,680
are spending every day having their parents
tell them that they're a race trader because

1150
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:11,960
they support Palestine over Israel. But
you know, it just comes down to

1151
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:15,399
I think people have to believe in
a right and a wrong, and I

1152
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,800
just think that a lot of us
have come to the conclusion. You talk

1153
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:25,159
about the disparities and numbers. That
disparity in numbers comes from between thirty and

1154
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:29,680
forty thousand Palestinians have been killed that
we know of, but they are digging

1155
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,479
up mass grades, so we don't
know, and that is a problem.

1156
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,960
But we know that it's an ungodly
number. We know over thirteen thousand children

1157
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,079
have been killed, and there's no
way to defend that, right, But

1158
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:47,560
look, this whole thing is an
awful situation, and I think you speak

1159
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,439
very intelligently on it, and I
like that we can have this because I

1160
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:55,520
think sometimes to have a little contrast
is good, right. I want to

1161
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,439
just points in coast. So when
you're saying that, I think that an

1162
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,840
argument back would be, yes,
when there's a bombing, there's there's people

1163
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:10,600
killed. But what Hamas has done
is taking babies and thrown them in the

1164
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:15,720
ovens right in front of their moms. I mean it almost sounds much much

1165
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,000
more brutal. I'm not saying that
either one. I guess I shouldn't say

1166
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,800
one is better than the other,
but I go, there's something different about

1167
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:25,800
hitting a button, you know,
from miles away, versus taking somebody and

1168
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,720
staring the mother in the face and
throwing the kid all right, it just

1169
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,439
seems like, yes, the reality
is you know, and like, yeah,

1170
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:38,680
I appreciate that perspective because the reality
is you and I aren't there,

1171
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:43,079
and I don't know, I don't
know, we don't we don't know how

1172
01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:45,520
bad ones I could be or how
bad the other side could be. But

1173
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:53,159
I do strongly, strongly believe that
the American Conservatives and the American Liberals,

1174
01:21:53,239 --> 01:21:58,640
as as parties, as published people, the people who are speaking up are

1175
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,720
pretty much exclusively pro Israel when it
comes to our politicians and the people who

1176
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:10,039
represent us and our institutions are coming
out saying at school is in support of

1177
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:13,159
Israel, and that frustrates us because
you know, we don't. Just because

1178
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,000
the institution and the politicians agree with
that doesn't mean that we have to let

1179
01:22:16,039 --> 01:22:19,680
that label be put onto us because
we go to you know whatever college.

1180
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:28,920
So okay, okay, I yeah, I mean there's I understand the sentiment

1181
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,359
and stuff. You know, when
I look back at college protests over the

1182
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,039
years, and probably the biggest ones
would be Vietnam, but that was really

1183
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:41,680
to keep amer because involvement out.
We're talking about a war that goes back

1184
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:47,439
back to Biblical times, and there
are people that truly truly believe, kayleck,

1185
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:55,199
Kaylee, They truly believe that what
is happening here is like it's almost

1186
01:22:55,279 --> 01:22:59,960
as though homosy. This is just
a theory that people have out that maybe

1187
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:05,239
I've heard it, maybe haven't,
that they've almost made Israel the bad guy

1188
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:12,319
by getting sympathy for Palestine on college
campuses, and that they're saying this is

1189
01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:15,399
how Hitler got to power. Now, maybe that's an extreme example or not,

1190
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,079
but that is a theory that many
people out there are looking and going,

1191
01:23:19,399 --> 01:23:25,079
this is how that stuff begins because
people are there, and like I

1192
01:23:25,119 --> 01:23:29,439
said to you last night, people
are burning calories over a war that's gone

1193
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,760
on since Biblical times. They don't
I don't know that they care that you're

1194
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:40,680
protesting right Oh yeah no, And
I mean our goal, the people who

1195
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,039
are on college campus is actively protesting
right now. Are there because we don't

1196
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:49,560
want our names on those It's not
that we can go there and say,

1197
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:55,199
hey, president of Random College in
New York State and the war, Yes,

1198
01:23:55,279 --> 01:23:59,039
we know that that is a war
that has existed in a conflict that

1199
01:23:59,079 --> 01:24:05,239
has existed for absolutely forever, and
it may go away It started with Adam

1200
01:24:05,279 --> 01:24:09,800
and Eve because Adam didn't pick up
his socks off the floor, and Eve

1201
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,079
started beating the ship out of him
with the snake, and then from there

1202
01:24:13,279 --> 01:24:15,840
they just went into two different camps. And Genesis three, I have no

1203
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,119
idea, go ahead any and I
said Genesis three, Oh, I thought

1204
01:24:19,119 --> 01:24:23,319
you were going to ask you a
question. No, I'm just well,

1205
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,319
because I guess what's the endgame of
all Well, I think the endgame is

1206
01:24:27,359 --> 01:24:31,920
they're trying to get the colleges to
to stop divesting money. That's really difficult,

1207
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,479
like with pe firms and all these
investments. It's just it's almost impossible.

1208
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,920
Like my whole thing is this,
and I appreciate you coming on here.

1209
01:24:41,239 --> 01:24:44,079
My whole thing is I'm not a
big fan of protesting because ye at

1210
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:46,640
the end of the day, it
really doesn't make that much of a difference

1211
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,439
because you could literally protest just about
anything. Like I tell people who hate

1212
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:55,159
Columbus day, I'm a third generation
American, right, and they hate Christopher

1213
01:24:55,199 --> 01:24:57,880
Columbus, And they say, you
know, the white man raped the pillage

1214
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,479
and took away the Native Americans.
LAMB like, okay, fine, but

1215
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,600
before the white guys got here,
who are the Native Americans killing? Oh,

1216
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,680
that's right, each other and then
all of a sudden with somebody else

1217
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,439
with bigger guns came along on now
or the underdog. So now it's okay

1218
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,680
to feel bad, right, But
at the end of the day, I

1219
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,880
don't see any kids in this country
or their parents taking their land that they

1220
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,000
own, that they work for and
giving it to a Native America. Because

1221
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,239
if you really wanted to solve that
problem, find a Native American and give

1222
01:25:25,279 --> 01:25:32,199
them your land. Well, so
my point is that it's all bs okay,

1223
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:38,000
no, yeah, So you know
people, that's an argument that I

1224
01:25:38,039 --> 01:25:40,439
do get is, oh, if
you think the Palestinian should have all the

1225
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,680
land, then do you want to
give up all of our land to the

1226
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,119
Native Americans? And I think it
comes down to your worldview on you know,

1227
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:49,239
some people's perspective on history, whether
it's right or wrong, there's multiple

1228
01:25:49,319 --> 01:25:54,760
perspectives on history. Is that the
way that countries progress is they have to

1229
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,760
get more land and get bigger and
get stronger, and sometimes that means colonizing.

1230
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:02,680
But I also think that my generation
is very strongly against the idea of

1231
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,680
colonization. I do think that it's
maybe time we take a look at our

1232
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,159
own country before we go, you
know, pointing at other ones. But

1233
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,960
I definitely think it's just about your
world view on is it morally correct for

1234
01:26:15,079 --> 01:26:20,039
countries to colonize and take over land
and move those people for their convenience.

1235
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,039
But I also think, and this
isn't a shot at you or anything,

1236
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:27,920
I think you might be generalizing your
generation. I think every generation thinks that

1237
01:26:28,079 --> 01:26:31,800
history actually like they're the first generation
to figure life out, you know what

1238
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,800
I'm saying. Wow, So it's
it's like, it's it's kind of unfair

1239
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:41,199
because the reason you're here is because
the previous generation sacrifice one way or another,

1240
01:26:41,319 --> 01:26:44,039
right, and then the generation before
that, I mean, thank God

1241
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:47,239
for World War Two. I'll be
curious to see if, if you know,

1242
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,239
thoughts change in this a little bit, because when you when you look

1243
01:26:51,359 --> 01:26:57,039
and read and Hamas is in charge
of one side of Palestinian state, and

1244
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:02,279
you go, boy, they seems
horrible in a regime that you wouldn't really

1245
01:27:02,319 --> 01:27:06,039
want to be in, and one
that certainly doesn't support the ideals of I

1246
01:27:06,119 --> 01:27:13,039
think most people involved in the protest. And the other argument sometimes is some

1247
01:27:13,119 --> 01:27:16,520
of these colleges are private institutions.
I think that you could probably argue that

1248
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:21,000
Sunny Courtland and some others would be
a public institution, But the private institutions

1249
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:26,079
are the ones where, you know, a lot of times I would always

1250
01:27:26,119 --> 01:27:29,640
go if you don't like it,
and I'm not saying that. Let's say

1251
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,119
you joined a club and all of
a sudden, the club decided like,

1252
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:36,039
we don't like people with freckles.
Okay, well then I'm not going to

1253
01:27:36,079 --> 01:27:40,159
support you because I have freckles,
and I'm like, you understand what I'm

1254
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,600
saying, So I'm not going to
go there. They have the right to

1255
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,119
do what they want. So I
don't know that this will will change anything.

1256
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:48,239
I don't know how this all works. I think there's people that are

1257
01:27:48,319 --> 01:27:53,720
very very scared. I think there's
people of Jewish faith and people who practice

1258
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,640
that are afraid to send their kids
to school. And yet that's why I

1259
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,479
wanted to have you on, because
I go is that are we seeing a

1260
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,960
camera lens of the violence that like
the stuff that happened at Columbia? Is

1261
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:08,520
it all? Is it all students
from Columbia? Are they being infiltrated by

1262
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:13,600
somewhere? If you're that angry,
why not show your face instead of covering

1263
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,880
your face. You know, these
are all things that seem to kind of

1264
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,039
make sense. If you're going to
make a stand, make the stand.

1265
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:23,880
But I love to speak on the
face covering, Yeah, just because a

1266
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:29,359
big part of that has been students
are being mass ascended, being mass arrested.

1267
01:28:30,039 --> 01:28:33,800
And you know, we're obviously in
an unprecedented time for students too,

1268
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:38,920
are spending their days at school doing
that instead of you know, doing school

1269
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,640
stuff. But it's still you know, matters to people whether or not there's

1270
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,199
a suspension on their record. And
so absolutely, I mean to avoid the

1271
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:50,680
recognition, well to avoid Look,
you go to a job interview and somebody

1272
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:55,079
nowadays you can pretty much find anything, right, I mean, if you've

1273
01:28:55,119 --> 01:29:00,319
got somebody just savvy on the internet. But other students, you know,

1274
01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:02,520
that are just sitting there peacefully,
aren't the ones that I see covering them?

1275
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:08,039
Were the ones smashing windows and things? And again I always wonder,

1276
01:29:08,079 --> 01:29:11,439
and I don't know, because you
know, we live in a world where

1277
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:15,399
things can be manipulated. We have
AI. Now not that this is AI,

1278
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:16,640
that's not what I'm saying, but
we can make it look like somebody

1279
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:23,159
said something that they didn't say,
or what were somewhere they really weren't at

1280
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,760
So it becomes one of these things. And so when I look at that,

1281
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,680
I go, is this an isolated
incident of violence? Is this an

1282
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:34,640
isolated incident of keeping a teacher or
a student away from going onto campus?

1283
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,880
You know? That stuff? To
me, right there is just a federal

1284
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:43,239
law you're breaking. That's racism when
we don't tolerate that. And you know,

1285
01:29:43,319 --> 01:29:45,039
I think now the Senate, was
it Danny that's trying to put an

1286
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:47,640
antisement the House? The House?
And then it would have to go to

1287
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,720
the Senate and it'll never never pat
there. But the idea that there's anti

1288
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:57,720
semitism, is it, Like,
how legitimate is that if you're here telling

1289
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,640
me, hey, I'm a college
student and we have you know, if

1290
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,840
just because you don't support, we're
not going to stop you. And if

1291
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,520
you are Jewish and you want to
support, you're welcome. So it's not

1292
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:14,840
an anti Semitic thing at all.
No, it truly is not about people

1293
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,039
of the Jewish faith. I truly
haven't come across that with any of the

1294
01:30:18,079 --> 01:30:25,039
other protesters that I've met or spoken
with. Yeah, all this stuff kind

1295
01:30:25,039 --> 01:30:28,520
of confuses me because I stand there
and I go, if I were debating

1296
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,319
on whether or not I want to
get involved in this, I would be

1297
01:30:30,399 --> 01:30:36,359
like, I don't know, kind
of get laid. I'm kidding. No,

1298
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,640
I mean I would be debating,
honestly, And I would also have

1299
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,119
to say, I'm not sure that
I want to stand up and protest for

1300
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:46,600
a country that wouldn't allow me to
stand up and protest in that country that

1301
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,920
is going to commit horrific acts that
will be equal to or that the only

1302
01:30:51,039 --> 01:30:56,960
country that is similar to America in
terms of democracy or as close to it

1303
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,520
as you're going to get in the
middle least is Israel. But again,

1304
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,680
I'm not I'm trying to say that
that makes them wonderful. That's not what

1305
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:05,000
I'm saying. But I go,
I don't know that I could put my

1306
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:12,239
my calories behind something with a people
that I don't think really appreciate care or

1307
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:17,600
you know, I don't know it's
right. So it's good to be young,

1308
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,720
Kaylee. You get a lot of
time to do that. No,

1309
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,520
but it gives you a chance.
Hey, Look, it's all part of

1310
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,800
the journey, and it's part of
the process and having a belief and standing

1311
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,720
up for something is important and being
able to you know, as you have

1312
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:35,319
come on here, I think you
spoke very intelligently about this. I may

1313
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:39,840
not agree with you, but I
hear you when I hear your points.

1314
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,359
Guys, just one question. I
really appreciate you coming on and speak it

1315
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,199
so eloquently about this, Like,
what do you have personally to lose by

1316
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:51,159
going out there protesting yourself? What
do I have salutions? Yeah? Yeah,

1317
01:31:51,159 --> 01:31:54,359
it's like, would you do you
have anything at risk right now by

1318
01:31:54,359 --> 01:31:57,920
going out there? Well, like
I said, as someone who wants to

1319
01:31:58,039 --> 01:32:01,359
become a legislator someday, I have
my whole career to lose. I've just

1320
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,239
put my faith out there on social
media with my Cathia on ass protests,

1321
01:32:05,239 --> 01:32:09,840
and I know that that could cause
damage to my career. That could cause

1322
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,920
damage to me getting vote someday.
Potentially, if I go back to sudw

1323
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,640
Cortland after my internships over and protests, it's possible I could get a suspension

1324
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,079
or an expulsion. I'm in really
good standing at my school, you know,

1325
01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:25,000
I talked to the president of my
school frequently. I care about my

1326
01:32:25,079 --> 01:32:30,640
institutions, but it absolutely could really
have an effect on my education and my

1327
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,319
career. If you know something were
to happen, do your parents get nervous

1328
01:32:34,319 --> 01:32:38,920
and all for your and not even
like, look a kid, I don't

1329
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,800
have to agree with my children in
their stuff. I would, but no,

1330
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,000
no, but I would worry about
their safety. I would truly worry

1331
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,239
about their safety. Yeah. I
mean, now, when I told my

1332
01:32:48,279 --> 01:32:51,439
mom I was going to the first
protest, she was definitely nervous and was

1333
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:56,399
like, I don't know if that's
a good idea. But the protests that

1334
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,520
I've gone to have mainly been marches. I went to the actual Sunny building

1335
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,720
where the Sunny Chancellor stays, and
a lot of the people who run the

1336
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:10,439
entire Sunny organization and not just one
school. But you know, in those

1337
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,680
situations that I've been in personally here, in all any of the protests that

1338
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,640
we have here, don't you know
get, I've never had MYPD called on

1339
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,520
me, you know what I mean? Like, yes, I'm not I

1340
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,239
plan to go to an encampment and
I'm sure that you know it's possible that

1341
01:33:25,319 --> 01:33:29,000
I may come into contact with police, and they give us trainings on how

1342
01:33:29,039 --> 01:33:31,039
to handle that and try to teach
us to do it in the most space

1343
01:33:31,079 --> 01:33:35,720
and non violent. Wow, who's
funding that? The training? Yeah,

1344
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:41,399
like the training, I mean organizing
and training and putting materials together to instruct

1345
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,319
me. All that is. There
is money, There's somebody's got to be

1346
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,920
And I see similar tents on campuses
on the West Coast as I do here.

1347
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:53,359
It's almost as is there some kind
of underground funding of this in some

1348
01:33:53,399 --> 01:33:59,199
way that you're away. I mean, there's definitely there's donation pools. There's

1349
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:02,840
a group known as a General Strike
that helps out with people all around the

1350
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,479
US and in other countries. They
have an Instagram and they, you know,

1351
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:10,920
post constant posts about what's going on. But those organizations will put up

1352
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,319
posts with a zoom lenk that say, you know, come in at seven

1353
01:34:14,359 --> 01:34:16,520
and we'll teach you about your rights
and how to protect yourself if the police

1354
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:21,079
get involved. So yeah, I
mean I don't know how much. I

1355
01:34:21,319 --> 01:34:26,600
personally don't know the numbers about how
much money goes into supporting students. Well,

1356
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,920
a lot of it could volunteer.
I'm not you know, so it's

1357
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:34,119
hard to quantify. I'm just saying
like it sounds more organized than uh,

1358
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:38,600
just hey, let's put up some
tents and storm the palace, so to

1359
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,199
speak, and tell this asshole to
get well. And that's part of the

1360
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:45,079
beauty of the interconnectedness of a bunch
of college students that all live in one

1361
01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:47,920
state, you know, the Sunni
system, the Cunity system. We all

1362
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,319
talk to each other, we know
each other, we see each other on

1363
01:34:50,399 --> 01:34:55,800
social media, so it's it's just
a very interconnected group of people. Also,

1364
01:34:56,279 --> 01:34:59,920
they people travel for different protests in
different parts of New York. I've

1365
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:03,079
that people from all over to do
this. So what happens with the finals

1366
01:35:03,119 --> 01:35:09,399
and then school's done in like two
weeks, I don't know what will happen,

1367
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:15,000
honestly, I don't. I don't
know what the purpose at once.

1368
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,119
Eventually, once we know there's no
staff on campus, there isn't much of

1369
01:35:18,119 --> 01:35:24,079
a purpose in being there. Then
you just go home. What do we

1370
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:29,840
do it's over? Oh, they
just left year. I think protests in

1371
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,319
the street will continue. I think
protests in public places and parks will continue.

1372
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:39,079
I think that depending on the trajectory
of what happens in the next couple

1373
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:43,399
months and as the election's coming up. You know, once the semester starts

1374
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,039
up, again, we might have
more encampments, more protests happening. I'm

1375
01:35:46,079 --> 01:35:49,039
curious to see. You know,
a lot of the people pledge they would

1376
01:35:49,079 --> 01:35:53,479
stay until the divestment happened, So
you know, I am curious to see

1377
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:57,439
once the semester ends, if that's
true. Yeah, I would think that.

1378
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,079
Yeah. I mean, at some
point, go I need a shower,

1379
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:04,119
go yeah. Well, and there
you know, they start shutting down

1380
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:10,000
student resources on campus because they're in
a state of emergency, so students don't

1381
01:36:10,039 --> 01:36:13,680
have food and water and bathrooms to
get to on campus, right, right,

1382
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,600
all right, Well, it's an
interesting perspective and one that I'm not

1383
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,199
sure I agree with. I couldn't
stand behind a government that that that does

1384
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:25,399
that. I hear you. On
the other stuff. You feel like people

1385
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:29,960
have inserted themselves into a land.
But it's something that's just been going.

1386
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,359
I mean, believe me, the
peace in the Middle East has been some

1387
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:39,199
a phrase. Right, you have
family feuds and somebody goes, oh,

1388
01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:43,319
we have peace in the Middle East. Finally, Uncle Bob's coming for Christmas.

1389
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,840
I haven't talked to him in twenty
years, you know, I mean,

1390
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,239
when we compared to that, I'm
just saying, like I'm not sure

1391
01:36:48,279 --> 01:36:53,720
that this shit's ever going to go
away. And I understand the sentiment.

1392
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,119
We don't like people. Note,
I get it, I hear it.

1393
01:36:56,199 --> 01:36:59,119
I don't want to see people suffer
either. I don't. I don't.

1394
01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:00,800
I don't like that. But I
also don't like a government that's not going

1395
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,239
to allow you, Kaylee, to
be you. They wouldn't allow you to

1396
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:08,279
be who you are, and to
me, that's wrong and I couldn't support

1397
01:37:08,319 --> 01:37:10,640
that. And I think that's where
I would draw my line and say,

1398
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,600
I can't be part of this.
Uh. And the divestment is just it's

1399
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:19,039
just not as easy as I think. And I have really no financial education.

1400
01:37:19,159 --> 01:37:25,479
Just look at my bank account.
Uh, it's just not as easy

1401
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,000
knowing people who have done that for
a living, handled the Harvard dumb and

1402
01:37:29,079 --> 01:37:33,840
so that's all. Yeah, I
think that smart kid, Kaylee. Good

1403
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:39,159
luck with everything you do. You
certainly speak well and you didn't shy away

1404
01:37:39,159 --> 01:37:42,039
from anything. And give your credit
for coming on. We agree, you

1405
01:37:42,039 --> 01:37:45,960
know, we may disagree on some
of these things, but I would say,

1406
01:37:45,159 --> 01:37:48,920
uh, at least if this if
you were my kid, I go,

1407
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,359
well, at least they're thinking about
it. Right there, there's thought,

1408
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,520
no, I'm serious. Instead of
just following the herd you gave answers,

1409
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,399
I like it all right, well
thank you, well, they all

1410
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,199
just want you yes at the end
of the day. And that's what I'm

1411
01:38:02,199 --> 01:38:06,119
saying. I almost feel like what's
in charge of parts of Palestine needs to

1412
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:12,680
be gone. They're they're they're hamas
Is is really like a terrorist group here.

1413
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:17,600
So let's find another and let's see
if we can find literally the proverbial

1414
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,039
piece in the Middle East. I
think that most people feel like Palestine,

1415
01:38:21,079 --> 01:38:25,119
as you were saying, is really
under Israeli control. And that's what you're

1416
01:38:25,119 --> 01:38:30,520
saying, shouldn't be Yeah, I
mean, look, we've had similar situations.

1417
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,199
They tried to make a country called
the Yugoslavia. I'm not even sure

1418
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:35,039
if you were alive when they were
around. They had a really shitty car

1419
01:38:35,079 --> 01:38:41,600
called the Yugo. Was awful,
uh though, But yes, that's true.

1420
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,520
But you you put, what you
took was ethnic groups of people who

1421
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,159
could not Serbians, and they just
couldn't get along. And so eventually the

1422
01:38:48,279 --> 01:38:54,520
globe Damovich was a a wi they
talked about person that the country went i

1423
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:59,119
mean went under because of this.
And this has been something that luckily in

1424
01:38:59,159 --> 01:39:00,760
America, and I guess we had
our own versions of it to a certain

1425
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,720
degree we haven't had to deal with. And you know what, if part

1426
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:08,960
of your right is an American going
protest, just don't put the Palestinian flag

1427
01:39:09,039 --> 01:39:12,399
up in America, come on,
or any flag, come on, Just

1428
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,239
it's America. It's America. Leave
it there, even if you don't burn

1429
01:39:15,279 --> 01:39:16,479
it. Burn it if you want
to, but don't put the other one

1430
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,960
up. Does that make sense?
You have the right to burn it.

1431
01:39:21,119 --> 01:39:25,840
I got it, I got it. I understand the perspective of not wanting

1432
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,279
another country's flag. It explain that
to me. I don't know if I

1433
01:39:29,359 --> 01:39:30,960
get that. Well, it would
be like try to put the American flag

1434
01:39:31,039 --> 01:39:35,319
up in Palestine and see what up. Well, yeah, That's what I'm

1435
01:39:35,359 --> 01:39:38,880
saying is if we're going to go
so far as to fly this, then

1436
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,239
you better be able to do that
over there. And I know you can't,

1437
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,479
so that would that would be my
thing. And by the way,

1438
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,119
we do fly other flags. Did
the Canadian flag flies here and we've had

1439
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:51,279
the I agree, but to put
it up, to take down the American

1440
01:39:51,279 --> 01:39:55,039
flag and put that one up.
The only reason you have the right to

1441
01:39:55,079 --> 01:39:58,560
protest is because you're on American soil, and I think that that needs to

1442
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,159
be America great little bit respect that. That's just again my opinion, and

1443
01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:06,640
it's halfway between fact and fiction.
So there you go, all right,

1444
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,520
all right? Yes, I would
love to have you on a little more

1445
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,359
often. Yeah. I find you
interesting and smart, and you're cool enough

1446
01:40:15,359 --> 01:40:19,319
to like actually like to have a
discussion with open mind, which is important

1447
01:40:19,359 --> 01:40:24,399
people not wanting to have the conversation. Nothing will get done without the conversation

1448
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:29,039
happening. That is not being uncomfortable
that I agree with more than anything we

1449
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:31,079
have had. We have said this
about race, We have said this about

1450
01:40:31,079 --> 01:40:35,039
a lot of things, and we
don't because I don't know why. I

1451
01:40:35,039 --> 01:40:39,720
don't know why. And then we
I think a lot of times there is

1452
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,239
what I will call and what many
Buddhists would say was a misperception, right,

1453
01:40:44,279 --> 01:40:46,960
And so then you hold on to
that misperception and you build walls in

1454
01:40:47,039 --> 01:40:50,840
your mind where they don't exist,
and so we and then we have you

1455
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:54,680
ever done this, Kayley, Have
you ever? And maybe you haven't.

1456
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:56,880
You're young, and you see,
maybe a little smarter than the rest of

1457
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,560
us. Have you ever had an
argument in your head with somebody that never

1458
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:05,239
ever really happened. Absolutely, yes, yes, I mean we all do

1459
01:41:05,319 --> 01:41:09,560
that, and I think that that's
part of the problem is that some of

1460
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:14,239
sometimes that's misperception, that's not really
what that person meant. And there's so

1461
01:41:14,319 --> 01:41:17,960
much communication now that's through text,
which loses so much context in terms of

1462
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,439
eighty nine percent of conversation is lost
in text. Yeah, and so I

1463
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:25,760
really think that that there's many things. So to hear you say what you're

1464
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:30,319
saying, I I that is awesome
and I hope that your entire generation agrees

1465
01:41:30,359 --> 01:41:35,079
with you. Well, thank you
all right, the pleasure talking to you,

1466
01:41:35,159 --> 01:41:38,840
Kaylee. Yeah, great talking to
you guys. Thank you so much

1467
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:43,920
for having me on. Bye.
There you go. What'd you think today?

1468
01:41:44,079 --> 01:41:45,319
I see anything wrong? No,
I thought that was a very interesting

1469
01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:48,720
conversation. It's an interesting conversation.
See somebody, she wasn't a jack.

1470
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,960
I think she opened my eyes to
some things that like, hey, look

1471
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,279
you got to remember Dan that it's
some of these situations you see on the

1472
01:41:55,279 --> 01:41:58,159
news is like maybe five percent of
a situation. Well, what I wanted,

1473
01:41:59,399 --> 01:42:00,439
right, I don't want to be
one of these people that's out there

1474
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,840
going they're lied to you on the
news, They're not they're showing you something

1475
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:09,880
that happened. But the news is
always had a phrase, what if it

1476
01:42:10,399 --> 01:42:13,520
right? So if we see the
violence, if we see the sensational stuff,

1477
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,840
we're going to go for that.
I mean, there's been a lot

1478
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,279
of things that have happened right in
our area the last couple of days,

1479
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:23,560
but everybody's talked about the one sensational
story, right, the DA yelling at

1480
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,560
a cop in a garage, you
know what I mean. So I think

1481
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,600
that that there is that. So
that's why I always say, what is

1482
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,720
the We're seeing it through this lens, but what are we not seeing?

1483
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,560
What is the lens not showing us
right? Right? Because we're not there

1484
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:42,199
and I'm not and I don't I
and i'll i'll. I like people.

1485
01:42:42,279 --> 01:42:45,399
I appreciate people who say I don't
know, and I don't know a lot,

1486
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,239
but I want to learn and I'm
curious and i'd rather learn from someone

1487
01:42:48,279 --> 01:42:53,920
who's actively part of something as to
why are you actively part of this?

1488
01:42:54,319 --> 01:42:56,760
What is your endgame with that?
And I think we kind of got to

1489
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:00,720
that all right. We're running a
long I apologize episode Fresh Prince where Hillary

1490
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:09,800
goes, who's this Bosnia person I
keep hearing about? I don't for those

1491
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:15,079
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1520
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:55,880
I can see this at the end
of the show. Yeah, now

1521
01:45:56,039 --> 01:46:09,880
the Black's car. Oh and it's
done to lay your Gods down radio to

1522
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:15,880
the saw. So they're going to
play in the final credits of the protest

1523
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:20,600
and the college campuses what it is, But we gotta go pack and room

1524
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:24,439
cleaning up. Let me just say
this right now. Now, I don't

1525
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:28,439
know. I mean, getting old
is great because you have wisdom, the

1526
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:33,920
idea of being in an encampment,
sleeping on a lumpy ground, shitty stuff,

1527
01:46:34,039 --> 01:46:38,680
someone squeezing in I no, no, thank you, I know,

1528
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:46,680
I not no it is I think
protests of that level are probably people twenty

1529
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,880
five and unders. Yes. So
I had a teacher in high school named

1530
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:54,279
mister Fox. Mister Fox told this
great story. He goes, they used

1531
01:46:54,279 --> 01:46:58,159
to protest the Vietnam War in Buffalo
at certain points like a Lafayette Square or

1532
01:46:58,199 --> 01:47:00,479
whatever. He goes, But we
had nothing else to do, so we

1533
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,239
go watch the protest. We bring
a cooler, we get, we get

1534
01:47:03,239 --> 01:47:06,199
our he goes, get we get
the like our chairs, and we just

1535
01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:10,680
because the protest was so entertaining,
so he goes, you'd have more people

1536
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:15,399
watching the protest than actually protesting.
So who were there for like a big

1537
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,680
party? So when the news came
and something happened, Yeah, like fifty

1538
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,560
thousand protesters where there was actually maybe
like ten thousand of the other forty towns.

1539
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:26,680
We're watching the protest as a joke, like to get entertained by it,

1540
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,399
or we're there for other means,
like we're gonna pick up some chicks.

1541
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,279
Yeah, at the protest, right, I don't know. I just

1542
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:38,640
like I'm not necessarily in favor of
what is happening. You have the right,

1543
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,039
You have the right to protest in
this country, you do, you

1544
01:47:42,079 --> 01:47:44,880
know. That's where she said,
well, I don't understand why flying another

1545
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,239
flag. It's not flying another flag, it's taking on the flag that's allowing

1546
01:47:47,279 --> 01:47:50,279
you to protest, versus that you
can have all the feelings you want about

1547
01:47:50,279 --> 01:47:54,000
America. You can burn the flag, all right, you can't. You

1548
01:47:54,119 --> 01:47:58,239
have that right. Don't let me
see you. But no, I yeah,

1549
01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:00,079
but you couldn't hit somebody. You
could assault them, you could yell

1550
01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:02,439
at them, maybe ind nobody.
If nobody catches me, I could.

1551
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:08,720
I'm just saying that you're breaking a
law. They're not right. I'm sorry,

1552
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,399
and that's all that. Yes,
that's America. That's all I'm saying

1553
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,840
is like, it's America, and
you have the right to do this thing.

1554
01:48:14,119 --> 01:48:16,680
Again. Rights come with an ugly
side. I may not. I

1555
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,000
don't want to see somebody burn the
flag. I don't want to, but

1556
01:48:19,359 --> 01:48:23,319
you have the right. You have
the right to do that in country because

1557
01:48:23,319 --> 01:48:26,640
this is America. Yes, but
it's awesome. I think, you know,

1558
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,720
I don't know. Maybe there's somebody
out there who's like forty five fifty

1559
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,960
years old and goes, I can
do one last protest. I'm joining these

1560
01:48:34,039 --> 01:48:40,079
kids. I give you, I
give you eight hours those I give you

1561
01:48:40,159 --> 01:48:43,039
eight fucking hours ago. All right, this isn't it for me? You

1562
01:48:43,399 --> 01:48:48,479
weed month? Hey on, heme
on. No, it's because you think

1563
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,640
you just you know, you're you
think you still got it, and then

1564
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:57,479
you realize you can't do it anymore. I think I think we're like a

1565
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,960
lot of subjects we've talked about this
week. One in particular, you know,

1566
01:49:00,119 --> 01:49:03,159
people they say they don't want perfection, but ultimately they do want perfection,

1567
01:49:03,319 --> 01:49:08,399
and it's not something that's ever over
ing. Yeah, we're going we're

1568
01:49:08,399 --> 01:49:11,880
never gonna reach it, like because
America is not perfect. We're gonna pick

1569
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,880
out the flaws in America and just
rip them to shreds. My parents,

1570
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,720
I love them dearly. Do I
agree with everything that they've done in their

1571
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:21,479
lives or toward me or no,
but I love them dearly. America is

1572
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,880
not perfect, but I love this
country. And you're not going to have

1573
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,920
a better place to live anywhere else. Can we make it better? Of

1574
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,039
course we can. But do we
have to like hate the country because of

1575
01:49:30,039 --> 01:49:34,600
our flaws, because of our history, because that same history got us here

1576
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,960
with the ability to do what you're
doing right now on a college campus.

1577
01:49:40,359 --> 01:49:46,399
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
I don't I don't know. I look,

1578
01:49:47,399 --> 01:49:49,560
I look at all of it sometimes
and I just shake my head and

1579
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:55,159
I go, my god, I
got so many other things. Yeah,

1580
01:49:55,239 --> 01:50:00,840
hey man, you want to go
protest a shit? I I gotta get

1581
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,680
my hair cut. I mean,
I don't know. I'm just thinking like

1582
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,479
any other there's so many As you
get older, there's so many things that

1583
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:11,199
you start to realize, Like,
you got it pretty good. Yes,

1584
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,199
I think what you said is it
was spot on. It's perfect, It's

1585
01:50:15,279 --> 01:50:17,000
it's the way it is. I
like, I've noticed it. I don't

1586
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,239
have kids, so I noticed that
too. Yeah, so I've noticed that.

1587
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,960
No, but I've noticed because I
don't have kids, I have more

1588
01:50:24,039 --> 01:50:27,840
time now besides from work, I
have more time to think about certain things.

1589
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,600
And because and in the last six
months you kind of like alluded,

1590
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,159
like kind of alerted me to this, but I started getting angry about certain

1591
01:50:34,199 --> 01:50:36,399
things, like boy, you gotta, like, you know, tune it

1592
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,279
down with the news and stuff like
that. Right, Well, I kind

1593
01:50:40,279 --> 01:50:43,920
of did. I think the news
is it makes it? Can I think

1594
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:48,600
anybody who has a smart device watch
that can monitor your heart rate and stuff,

1595
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:55,000
watch the news. Yeah, and
for the half hour watch national news

1596
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:59,880
or local but watch it and then
watch your heart rate and then do it

1597
01:51:00,079 --> 01:51:03,079
the next day or a couple days
later. Don't do it for that same

1598
01:51:03,119 --> 01:51:06,920
time period. Read and see what
happens. And look, that could happen

1599
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:11,479
with a movie. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I just

1600
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:15,600
I don't like hearing all the the
yucky stuff and I don't you can well,

1601
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,600
you're living in a bubble. Okay, maybe I am. I'm aware

1602
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,439
of what's happening in the world,
but I also like to get myself a

1603
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:25,479
chance to step back and take a
bigger look at things. That's all.

1604
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,520
That's all. That's all I'm saying. That's why I wanted to have this

1605
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,079
girl on. We can all say
it's a fucking all'll never talk. No,

1606
01:51:30,279 --> 01:51:33,840
let's talk. Let's find out why
are they doing this and are they

1607
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:38,119
aware that they have the right to
do it? But the very country that

1608
01:51:38,119 --> 01:51:41,800
they're doing this on behalf of could
give a shit because they're not going to

1609
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,239
allow you to do it. And
they're not going to allow you or your

1610
01:51:45,239 --> 01:51:48,680
friends, or your your gay friend, your transgender friend, your black friend.

1611
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:50,760
They're not going to allow any of
that that it's not going to be.

1612
01:51:51,079 --> 01:51:56,319
So just be aware, that's all
I'm saying. Be aware of fully

1613
01:51:56,359 --> 01:51:59,479
what you're doing, and you know
it's a choice, and I think it's

1614
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,840
great that you're standing up and doing
something I do well. The reason why

1615
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,800
I brought up the childless things because
I have a friend who is my age.

1616
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:09,199
He's childless and wifeless. So these
are the texts I get at six

1617
01:52:09,239 --> 01:52:12,039
o'clock in the morning from him because
he's got nobody to yell at or yell

1618
01:52:12,119 --> 01:52:15,359
to. This is an actual text
from a friend. Okay, six o'clock

1619
01:52:15,359 --> 01:52:18,520
in the morning, esp I must
not care about ratings. All the media

1620
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:23,640
heads say the NFL is kig and
you should talk NFL. Ninety percent of

1621
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:28,159
the tithe ESBA get Up has been
talking seventy six ers Nicks for hour straight

1622
01:52:28,199 --> 01:52:30,560
this morning. Literally nobody watches the
NBA. I watched it. Did you

1623
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:34,279
know the game last night, according
to ESPA get Up, was legendary.

1624
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:38,800
Nobody watches the NBA. This is
a text I got six o'clock in the

1625
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:41,199
morning. This is somebody who's got
nothing else going on in their lives.

1626
01:52:41,239 --> 01:52:45,399
Okay, I agree, this is
why people get all worked up about stuff.

1627
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,079
This isn't why if people get all
worked up see nothing else going on.

1628
01:52:48,359 --> 01:52:53,279
It's not even that. If we
like drama, human beings like drama,

1629
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,800
and if we don't, and if
we don't have drama, we create

1630
01:52:55,880 --> 01:53:00,680
drama. If we're not, God
forbid, we ever lived there fucking live

1631
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,840
in fear of a rocket landing.
I don't need the drama. You think

1632
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:08,359
you don't give a shit, Well, what he is talking about, That's

1633
01:53:08,399 --> 01:53:12,039
what I'm saying is we create the
drama. We need drama. We feed

1634
01:53:12,079 --> 01:53:15,319
off drama. That's that's what we
do. This Sandra Dorley thing is a

1635
01:53:15,319 --> 01:53:17,600
great distraction for some people. Gave
them a chance to bitch. I couldn't

1636
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:21,039
do that. This is unfair.
No, you probably couldn't have. But

1637
01:53:21,079 --> 01:53:25,359
you're not the DA and it's not
the same, and you're never gonna be

1638
01:53:25,399 --> 01:53:28,920
able to compare apples to apples because
I guarantee you, at some station in

1639
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,760
life, there's somebody else who can't
get away with what you could get away

1640
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:34,640
with. You could walk out of
a store mistakingly with a pack of gum

1641
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:38,640
in your pocket and turn around and
go back and go, oh my god,

1642
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,159
I meant to pay for this.
And there could be somebody else who

1643
01:53:42,279 --> 01:53:44,840
go back go oh my god,
but well shit, and they would have

1644
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:46,039
you on the ground. Do you
know what I'm saying. I mean that

1645
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,920
is somewhat of a reality for some
people. So I'm just saying, like,

1646
01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:54,560
stop comparing, stop looking side to
side, enjoy what you got.

1647
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:59,079
Let's all be fucking happy. Happiness
best hap happiness. That should be the

1648
01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:00,840
episode title, Happy as Bastards,
you know what, Yeah, it would

1649
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,680
be. But would that be stealing
from the black cropes? Would they get

1650
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,279
mad at me for that? I
hope No, I don't. I don't

1651
01:54:06,279 --> 01:54:10,199
know, don't think. I don't
want to deal with Chris Chris Robinson as

1652
01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:12,199
well. You know what, Yeah, I don't want to Rich. I

1653
01:54:12,239 --> 01:54:15,600
do people's wives getting away sometimes,
do they? Yeah? I have no

1654
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,239
idea what you're talking about. Oh
yeah, really a lot of times I've

1655
01:54:17,239 --> 01:54:21,359
been involved in some situations where the
wife got involved, stopped. Yeah,

1656
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:25,600
and you really put it in me. They put a cramp on things.

1657
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,119
Wow. Yeah, really thought she
was the CEO or thought she was a

1658
01:54:29,279 --> 01:54:31,840
charge. God, I thought she
was you know, had a voice,

1659
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,960
had to say yeah. Yeah.
It just makes things hard. You just

1660
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,399
want to keep it among you know
the people. Well you need in the

1661
01:54:39,399 --> 01:54:41,920
Middle East. Yeah, that's what
you need. It's it's what you need,

1662
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,439
you know. Sometimes you know they're
inserting themselves right in the middle of

1663
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,840
your country. I don't know what's
happening right there. It's at a little

1664
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:53,000
crazy. I Yeah, that's that's
a difficult situation. Boy. All of

1665
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:58,159
a suddeny're burning a billified flag and
talking about they won't even be saying that.

1666
01:54:58,399 --> 01:55:00,880
My god, I would done.
Yeah, I thought there was something

1667
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,960
else we're gonna talk about. Okay, what did you want to talk about?

1668
01:55:03,319 --> 01:55:05,359
I could talk about anything, really, so can I. But I

1669
01:55:05,399 --> 01:55:09,359
figured we were We've been out a
lot. We went on forty minutes with

1670
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,880
the student and we talked about Santa
Dorley and tomorrow you're gonna do a little

1671
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:18,000
boxing video. Yeah, Kevin's gonna
be here right, Yes, Kevin o'llfilm

1672
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:23,720
it. Yeah, sure, going
for Dan Morillo, who's not protesting.

1673
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:25,920
I know Moran. We'll see you
tomorrow.