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Welcome to off Day Dodger Talk.
The Dodgers are in Philadelphia getting set for

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their final road trip before the All
Star Break. They will start with three

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games in Philadelphia starting tomorrow night.
It will be a two thirty Morongo Casino

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Dodgers on deck with first pitch at
three point forty from the City of Brotherly

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Love. We're with you until eight
o'clock tonight here on AM five to seventy

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fan favorite calling in from parts unknown,

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and we are taking your phone calls
until eight o'clock on this off day Dodger

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Talk. Eight six six nine eight
seven two five seventy is the phone number

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we will get to Trade talk mynd
numbing trade Talk. Bob Nightingale was on

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with Money and Don McClain. As
I mentioned to them, he stole my

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thunder about former Dodger Nathan Valdi.
I mean you could read that with Braille.

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Uh. If the Rangers are selling
Nathan would be at the top of

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the list of not only the Dodgers, but every other team in Major League

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Baseball that is trying to contend and
win in the playoffs. So we'll get

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to that. And also there may
be an impact bat nobody is talking about

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in connection with the Dodgers. Also, we will get to the All Star

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snubs. I feel like a few
players were snubbed for the All Star Game,

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so we'll get to that. And
also right now, my guy ta

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Oscar Hernandez is being snubbed for the
home run Derby, So we'll get to

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all that later in the show,
and possibly a special guest calling in between

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now and eight o'clock. Eight six
six nine eight seven two five seventy is

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the phone number before we get to
all that, and before we go forward,

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we have to look back on a
homestand that left you wanting more,

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wanted more against the Diamondbacks and stay
Christian Walker just continue to dominate the Dodgers,

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and they lost two out of three
to Arizona. The Dodgers now have

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a losing record against Arizona in San
Diego in their division this season. Not

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a coincidence with them sweeping the Dodgers
last year in Arizona and the Dodgers falling

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to the Padres the year before and
four games. The bigger question is for

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the Dodgers, do the Diamondbacks and
Padres have the game plan on how to

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beat the Dodgers since they play them
thirteen times in a season, and if

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you go back to a couple of
years ago when the Padres beat the Dodgers

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in the NLDS, they played each
other nineteen times. So you would have

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to imagine the Diamondbacks and Padres,
who also have a front office, who

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also have a manager, also have
an analytics department. They're taking notes and

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may they have the Dodgers' number,
considering they're the two teams in the division

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that have a winning record against the
Dodgers. And that's why if the Dodgers

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are in the postseason, you do
not want to see the Padres or Diamondbacks

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because they seem to know how you
pitch them. They know how to pitch

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you, and those are the two
teams that have knocked you out of the

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postseason unceremoniously the last two years.
So don't discount or just push aside the

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fact that the Diamondbacks swept the Dodgers
last year. They gave them fits last

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regular season as well, and already
this season they have beaten the Dodgers more

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than the Dodgers have beat them.
Same with the Padres. The Dodgers have

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lost five of eight against Arizona or
San Diego this year, so definitely something

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to keep your eye on. And
will Smith certainly helped the Dodgers have a

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five hundred homestand after Christian Walker left
town, will Smith must have saved one

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of his bats because he hit three
home runs on Friday night, was on

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base all five times, and then
in his first at bat on Saturday afternoon

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he homered as well. So four
home runs and four at bats for will

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Smith. And yesterday I felt like
the Dodgers had things in their favor to

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sweep Milwaukee. No, not because
they had Justin Robleski on the mound,

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but because the Brewers were throwing out
journeyman Dallas Kichel, who was signed to

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a minor league deal by the Mariners
and traded to the Brewers a couple of

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weeks ago, and the Dodgers let
kikel off the hook a few different times.

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That was disappointing they could not get
young Justin Robleski some runs in his

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first major league start. And what
was going on with Rehys Hoskins yesterday?

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Getting up at Johann Santana hitting him
in the sixth inning, did he believe

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that Johan Santana was trying to hit
him. I mean, has he watched

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Johann Santana. His pitches moved quite
a bit. He's gotten a lot better,

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but the pitches move a lot and
Johann Johann Ramirez, I should say,

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Johann Ramirez was not trying to hit
him. And after the inning was

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over and Hoskins ended up the inning
at third base, I was watching Johann

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Ramirez try to apologize once again to
Hoskins, and Hoskins basically was soch a

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poor sportsman that he went around and
avoided Ramirez so Ramirez could not say I'm

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sorry one more time. Johann Ramirez
one of the greatest people you'll ever meet.

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I mean, that guy's got a
heart of gold. He loves being

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in the big leagues. He doesn't
take it for granted. And by knowing

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me, was he trying to hit
Hoskins on purpose? So I don't know

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what's going on with Hoskins. Maybe
he was upset that he has to go

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back to Milwaukee for his home games, but that was ridiculous. Going back

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to Justin Robleski, I had gotten
a text from his Triple A manager,

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Travis Barbery yesterday morning and I asked
Travis, Hey, what stood out to

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you the most about Robleski And he
wrote back that he's very prepared and detailed

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and how he goes about his process
of getting ready for every start. He

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pays very close attention to opposing hitters
in the days he's not pitching. And

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you may say, how did he
do that against the Brewers, Well,

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Robleski knew he was going to start
on Sunday. He was in Los Angeles

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on Saturday, so I'm sure he
was watching the game that was nationally televised

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on Saturday afternoon and took some notes, not to mention, when you come

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to the big leagues, there's a
lot more scating reports and detailed report on

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hitters tendencies then there is at Triple
A. So I'm sure he was going

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all through that considering what his manager
at Triple A, Travis Barbery said about

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him. And here was justin Robleski
after yesterday's game, after making his major

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league debut. Justin Obviously major league
debuts are always exciting. How did you

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control your emotions to start the game. Yeah, I felt good. It

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was just kind of a matter of
being grateful for the moment and just kind

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of that's kind of the big theme
is I was kind of on the way

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over here today, it's just like
I'm really thankful for the opportunity and you

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know, at this point, like
you're already here, like let's just do

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it. And I just had a
lot of fun. I was. I

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felt pretty comfortable out there, so
I think I didn't think I was gonna

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I thought I was gonna be pretty
nervous, but I was just kind of,

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I don't know, like any other
game. I just felt normal,

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felt like I belonged. So it
was a lot of fun. Yeah.

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So I had been told earlier this
week that there was a chance, and

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then kind of the past couple of
days have been crazy trying to figure it

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out. And I get a call, you know, midnight two days ago

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or whatever telling me like you're gonna
come over here, you still may not

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pitch, And then ended up getting
the call last night when I was at

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dinner that that I'm going to start
today, and I was just super excited

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and happy, and you know,
obviously debut today. So where were you

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eating Chipotle? Garhouse? Yeah,
yardhouse. Yeah. A long week.

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We got back in from from Vegas
earlier this week at like four am on

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Wednesday or Thursday or whatever it was, and play a couple of games,

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and then obviously this all happened.
So what was it like to be in

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the same dugout with Clayton Kershaw,
who I know was your favorite player to

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him kind of encourage you when you
came back to the dugout. Yeah,

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it's it's obviously really cool. You
know, a guy like him who's been

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in the game for so long,
obviously legend. It's really cool, really

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really cool. All right, there's
Justin Robleski, who certainly was grateful for

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his opportunity to make his major league
debut. Unfortunately it comes in a loss.

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He was charged with four runs and
the dog fall to the Brewers nine

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to two, and coming into the
game yesterday, the Dodgers really owned the

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Brewers, especially at Dodgers Stadium.
They had only lost once to Milwaukee in

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the last fifteen games coming into yesterday, but the Brewers were able to salvage

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the final game of the series.
And look, I had said this coming

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into the series, the Dodgers needed
to separate themselves from the Brewers because with

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this new playoff format, it's important
to get one of the first two seeds

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as a division winner because you get
a first round by and you can line

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up your pitching for the nlds when
you're playing in a best of three series,

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even as the home team as a
division winner, that's not ideal.

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And coming into the series, the
Dodgers were only one game ahead of Milwaukee

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for the number two seed in the
National League postseason picture. So winning two

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out of three gave the Dodgers a
little breathing room. And everybody keeps asking

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looking Brewers, broadcasters and anybody around
their team, how are you winning with

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this pitching staff? And they're finding
a way. Whether or not it lasts

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in the second half still remains to
be seen. But the Dodgers go from

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playing one division winner to another division
winner or division leader in the National League,

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and from the Brewers to the Phillies
in Philadelphia. And I know everybody's

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hyping up this series, and it's
a big series. It's an exciting series,

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Marquis series, no doubt about it. But let's not forget the Phillies

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do come to Dodger Stadium the second
week of August, So this is only

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as big as right, now when
the Phillies come to LA, it will

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be just as hyped as this one
is. But this one is lacking,

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you know, the it's lacking.
It's lacking Mookie Betts, it's lacking Max

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Munsey, it's lacking Yoshi Yamamoto.
It's lacking Currently Bryce Harper, JT Realmudo

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and Kyle Schwarber. Those three Phillies
could be activated tomorrow or sometime during the

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series, so we'll see whether or
not that happens or not. But I

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firmly believe these are the two teams
you will see in the NLCS. Dodgers

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Phillies get ready for a showdown from
eighth nine, from seventy seven, seventy

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eight. It feels like it's going
to be Dodgers Phillies again in the NLCS.

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Eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy is the phone number when

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we continue here on off day Dodger
talk, we'll take your phone calls.

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We got two lines open, and
also we'll get into my numbing trade talk.

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Who do you want to see on
July thirtieth be traded to the Dodgers.

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I have a few ideas myself.
We'll talk about it next right,

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here on a five to seventy LA
Sports off day Dodger Talk. We have

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phone lines open at eight six six
nine eight seven two five seventy. The

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Dodgers are in Philadelphia getting set to
open up a three game series against the

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Phillies, and then from there they
will go to Detroit before the All Star

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break. When the All Star break
is over with, the Dodgers will resume

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the ceremonial second half against the Boston
Red Sox. So that should be fun.

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Kenley Janssen coming back to Dodgers Stadium
for the second time since leaving the

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Dodgers, and for the second time
in a different uniform, this time with

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the Boston Red Sox. Remember a
couple of years ago, the last time

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Kenley was at Dodgers Stadium it was
as an Atlanta Brave. Eight six six

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nine eight seven two five seventy is
the phone number. How much stock are

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you putting into this Dodger Philly series? Are you? You feel like he

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carries more weight than I do?
Because look, even if the Dodgers swept

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the Phillies in this series, let's
say all goes perfectly, the Dodgers shot

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Philadelphia, go in there and sweep
them. Does it really matter in October?

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Does it even matter in the second
week of August when Philadelphia comes to

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Dodger Stadium. I'm not sure what
this series proves, especially with no Mookie

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Bets, no Max Muncy, no
Yoshi Yamamoto, and also the possibility of

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any one of the Phillies injured players
in real Muto, Harper or Schwarber not

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playing, not to mention, both
of these teams may look a lot different

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when the Phillies come to LA after
the July thirtieth trade deadline. So that's

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how I feel about this series.
It's going to be a fun series.

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We're gonna get passionate those Philly people. It's hot, it's humid back there.

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They're angry, they're not feeling great. So it's going to be a

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very very hostile environment for the Dodgers
these next three games, and I'm interested

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to see how not only Bobby Miller
reacts, but also Gavin Stone in the

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second game of this series. Let's
go out to the phone lines before we

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get to more nine mind numbing trade
talk, Tony and Whittier. You're on

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Dodger Talk with David Vasse. How
you doing Tony, Good Dave, how's

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it going tonight? Oh, it's
going great. First of all, I

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just want to ask you a quick
question. With all the trade talks going

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on, who's going to be included
in what trade? I mean, I

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know the Dodgers are loaded with on
the farm, but who do you think

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is realistically going to be part of
any package, any trade you know come

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July thirtieth. Well, I don't
know the names, Tony, but if

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you're talking about getting a Garrett Crochet
or a Nathan Valdi, you're talking about

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blue chip pitching. We're talking about
maybe a Landon Knack, maybe a Justin

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Robleski. Diego Kartaya definitely is a
name that teams have called about in the

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past, maybe even a Miguel Vargas, Tony. That's something you all should

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brace yourself for. Yeah, I
mean, to get a player like Garrett

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Crochet who's not a rental, you're
gonna have to give up a lot,

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right right, Yeah, that's what
I was. That crossed my mind.

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But I just want to hear it
from me because I know you know more

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than we do. So but I
appreciate you taking my call. Thanks a

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lot, all right, Tony,
thanks for the phone call. Look,

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at this time of year, Andrew
Friedman is really not tipping his hand too

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much, and if he does,
he's doing it for a purpose. He

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wants misinformation out there day one.
I was there when he was hired,

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and he is not opposed to misinformation
because that creates chaos and sometimes plays in

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the Dodger's hands. So he plays
it very close to the vest and is

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not really talkative around this time of
year leading up to the July thirtieth trade

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deadline. But look, there's no
secret the Dodgers need a starting pitcher.

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They need a starting pitcher that can
pitch a playoff game and come up big,

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and Garrett Crochet is certainly the number
one name that's out there. Interesting

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enough, when I saw that the
Rangers were now eight and a half games

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back of the Astros, when I
looked a couple of days ago, and

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also eight and a half games back
of the last wild card spot, it

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made me wonder would the Rangers sell
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have a chance, knowing that their
owner has not really opened up the purse

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as much as he has the last
two off seasons. I mean, the

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Rangers. They were pretty much inactive
this offseason. They're now forty two and

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forty eight, six games back of
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West, and they have to leapfrog
the Red Hot Astros. So now all

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of a sudden, are forty six
and forty four, two games back of

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Seattle in the AL West. I
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And if you look at the wildcard
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Rangers are seven and a half games
back. The Tampa Bay Rays are closer

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to the Wildcard than the Texas Rangers
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And then when you see a guy
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yes, the Rangers are considering selling. And when they say so, they're

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talking about not Corey Seeger, not
Marcus Simeon. They're talking about pitchers like

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mac Scherzer. They're talking about a
pitcher like former Dodger Nathan Valdi, who's

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a two time World Series champion.
And when I bring that up, it's

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not like he was just along for
the ride. He was one of the

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biggest reasons why the Red Sox won
in twenty eighteen, and also one of

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the biggest reasons why the Rangers won
last year. If Nathan Valdi is available,

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I would venture to say I'd take
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that sounds crazy, hear me out. Number one, you probably would not

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have to give up as much for
Avaldi because not too many teams can take

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on his contract for the rest of
this year and next year. He is

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going to hit the innings that is
required for his contract to kick in for

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twenty million dollars next year. Nathan
Evaldi is a great guy. Number One.

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He's an ultimate competitor. He is
a winner, a proven winner,

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and you wouldn't have to give up
the farm for Nathan Evaldi. Now,

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you would have to give up something
significant to get him, but I'm sure

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it would not empty the system of
Blue Chippers that it would take to get

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Garrett Crochet. If I had to
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taking the veteran. Veterans win championships. Those are the guys that will carry

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you. Garrett Crochet is awesome in
Chicago. He was fearless against the Dodgers

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in Chicago. But Nathan Evaldi has
been to the mountaintop and people know him

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in the organization. You're trying to
tell me. Ron Rennicky, a special

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assistant to Andrew Friedman, is not
saying, get this guy. You're telling

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me if Andrew Freeman talks to Mookie
Betts, who, by the way,

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I saw them taking a long walk
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me Mookie Betts is saying, Nah, Nathan Avaldi, We're good. No,

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Mookie Betts is telling Andrew Friedman,
if you can get Nathan Evaldi,

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get him. Nathan Evaldi is the
guy. And with this news that Max

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Munsey now is going to be out
longer than right after the All Star break,

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Dave Roberts saying he's had a setback. Here's a name that nobody talks

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about. Why would you rule out
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Yes, that's the blue Jay to
get. If you're going to acquire an

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impact bat, make it Vladimir Guerrero
Junior, not Bo Bashet. With this

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news about Max Munsey, and you
may say, where's Vladimir Guerrero Junior going

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to play third base? That's where
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about when Munsey comes back. Well, let's cross that bridge when we get

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there. So far, he's not
coming back. They've been waiting. He

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hasn't come back. And you may
say, okay, Vladimir Guerrero Junior is

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a free agent after next year and
he's going to get a big contract.

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Yeah, he is. Remember what
happened when Corey Seger went down with a

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broken hand, Andrew Freeman pulled off
a big trade for Max Scherzer and also

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Trey Turner, knowing full well it
was a long shot to keep Trey Turner.

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Knowing full well, well, we
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we need him right now and we
can move him to second base when Seger

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comes back. Vladimir Guerrero Junior is
in the same spot. The Dodgers are

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in the same spot. Vladimir Guerrero
Junior is the blue Jay the Dodgers need

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to go after with this news of
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Eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy is the phone number. Yeah,

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I know, I just blew your
mind. Take a second before you

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dial. Let's go out to Himmett. Glenn. You're on Dodger Talk with

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David Vasse. How you doing,
Glenn? Thanks you're taking my call,

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David. I wanted to ask you
two things. One about course, uh,

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what's his era and his record?
And what Dodgers are coming back after

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the All Star Game and win?
Okay, well, I'll try to answer

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that as best as I can.
Number One on Mookie Betts is coming back

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after the All Star Game. We
thought Max Munsey was coming back after the

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All Star Game, but all of
a sudden, now Dave Roberts said he's

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had a cent back, so I
guess we can't count on Max Munsey coming

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back right away. That's why I'm
a big believer that the Dodgers should inquire

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about Vladimir Guerrero Junior. And he
may say he hasn't played third base in

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a while, he's been moved to
first base. I know we hear about

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the Dodgers talking about defense, but
really it feels like defense is secondary with

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some of the positions we've seen them
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come on, we saw them put
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them try Jock Peterson at first base. Max Munsey has had to learn third

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base on the fly, and Garrett
Crochet is six and six this year,

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with an ERA of three zero eight. He leads the league in starts made

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nineteen. He's thrown one hundred and
five innings so far this year, which

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brings up another concern for teams out
there inquiring about Crochet. He's coming off

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Tommy John surgery from a couple of
years ago, and his innings max has

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been fifty four and a third before
the injury, So many are wondering,

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well, what does that mean?
Does that mean that Garrett Crochet only has

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like fifty innings left to pitch?
I wouldn't say that. And whoever's trying

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to acquire Crochet is not only acquiring
him for this year, but for the

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next two years. That's why the
price is going to be really high.

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You're not getting Crochet just for this
year, You're getting him for the next

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two years. That's part of this
equation. And look, if the Dodgers

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or the Orioles or any other playoff
team acquires Garrett Crochet, they're going into

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it fully aware of the fact that
right now he has thrown more innings than

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he ever has before, and the
Dodgers are probably in the best position of

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any team out there to manage his
innings the rest of this regular season to

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be ready for the postseason. And
if you do acquire Crochet all of a

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sudden, now you have three pitchers
that will be pitching more innings than they

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ever have in their careers. That
would be Crochet, Glass Now and Gavin

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Stone. And that's why I'm all
in with Nathan Novaldi. I know he's

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coming off his second Tommy John surgery, but this guy works tirelessly to be

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big, to be strong, to
be physical, and he's seeing him.

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I mean I haven't seen him probably
since the eighteen World Series, and standing

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in front of him, the size
of Nathan Valdi was incredibly impressive, and

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it makes a lot of sense why
he is the poster child for coming back

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from a second Tommy John surgery.
He's not frail, his shoulders are huge,

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his body is big, physical,
his hands are humongous. This guy

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spends all his time in the weight
room. I would say, from what

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people were telling me, with the
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if you're looking for a Valdi,
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weight room or the bullpen. That's
what type of player he is. Eight

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six six nine eighty seven two five
seventy is the phone number. So all

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of a sudden we were talking Crochet
and Randia Rose Arena. Now, with

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this news coming out that the Rangers
may indeed be very practical about their season

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and listen to offers for Nathan Valdi, I'm all in to bring Nate a

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Valdi home. Let's go out to
Fresno. Jeff, you're on Dodger Talk.

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Hi, Jeff, Hi David?
How are you? I completely agree

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one thousand percent with Crochet. This
is this is a law longest he's ever

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gone. He's being stretched out as
a former reliever, and we have enough

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of those on the Dodgers, and
he's the bright, shiny flavor of the

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month. And a veteran like a
Valdi or or someone else is exactly what

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the Dodgers need. And third base, yes, obviously the plays we need

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to focus on with the infield.
I remember Rick said the other day that

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the Dodgers collectively are hitting right around
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So those are the glaring needs.
And yeah, I'm I'm one of those

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few that's like, please don't get
Crochet because I just see him ending up

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on the aisle in August and then
we're gonna lose three or four good prospects.

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And look, Jeff, if you
need a third baseman and you feel

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like you can get Nata Valdi and
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I'm not sure the Blue Jays are
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let's say you put together a package
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part of of a crochet deal,
then you don't have to give up as

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much for Nathan Evaldi because you know
he's only under contract for one more year,

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he's coming off a second Tommy John
surgery. All these things would lessen

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the trade value for a guy like
NATEA Valdi. But if you're the Dodgers,

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you want Nathan Evaldi. And I
could tell you this. The Dodgers

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were considering signing a Valdi before last
year. And there were a lot of

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former Red Sox on the Dodgers last
year that were teammates with Evaldi that were

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trying to implore Andrew Freeman to sign
a Valdi. And I'm sure that has

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remained consistent after what they saw last
year. Yeah, can I make one

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more point. This is about the
Philly Series. Yeah, I agree that

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that championships aren't won in July series, but I think it's really important for

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our young hitters, you know,
Andy Pajez and those to see you get

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their first look at Wheeler and Nola
and I don't know if Suarez is pitching,

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but they need to see these guys. Obviously, they're gonna hopefully see

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him twice, so if nothing else, they're gonna get some abs against these

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guys. Hey, great point.
At least you'll get a look at him,

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but they'll also get a look at
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the Phillies are in LA. So
yeah, you're you're trying to get a

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scout and report not just from the
data but also with your eyes and your

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experience. So all of that is
great. Thanks for the phone call,

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Jeff, appreciate it. Hey,
speaking of the young guys, how about

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James Outman, who got a great
ovation when he was introduced in the starting

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lineup on Saturday, and then he
delivered with two hits, and yesterday he

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came up with a hard hit base
hit to right field in the ninth inning

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as a pinch hitter. So just
my observations looking at James Outman, he

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looks like a guy that has had
a lot of weight lifted off his shoulders

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and he is going to join us
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the series in Philadelphia. He just
seems to be mentally a lot clearer and

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his swing seems to be a lot
more fluid from what I've seen. Let's

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take one more phone call before we
take our final time out. Let's go

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out to Claremont. Danny. You're
on Dodger Talk. Hi, Danny,

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Hey Dave, how's it going today? Man? I think I was happy

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to hear you mentioned Evaldi. That
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He's very proven pitcher, especially in
big games like that, so that

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gotta be a huge pickup, and
especially to have him come back where he

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started with the Dodgers. And that's
why you see these teams wait so long

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to make moves because you never know, you know who's going to be available

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or what a team situation might be, and he might be surprised over who

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could become available even in the coming
weeks. There might be names we're not

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quite aware of, but I think
Evaldy'd be a big one to get.

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I'm not sure about vlad I think
that one might be a little more far

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fetched. And as as a player, we want you know, he's been

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really a struggling player last year years. You know he's gonna be a clunker

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at third base. I mean Max
is already over there, and he's gonna

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he's gonna be reunited with Dino Ebel, who was very close to his dad.

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Dino Ebel will make him work.
The accountability of this clubhouse will make

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him work and get better. And
let's be honest, the Dodgers have lived

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with Max Munsey at third base,
who has been you know, the data

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says an average third baseman. I'm
sure Vladimir Guerrero Junior can become an average

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third baseman as well. This this
has trade Turner. This has trade Turner

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written all over it. Just like
Trey Turner, who's not the greatest defensive

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shortstop. The Dodgers saw an opportunity
of need because of a temporary injury,

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and we're able to sign Trey Turner. Now, I know Seeger was going

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to be a free agent. Munsey
is not. But uh, there's a

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lot of things you can do if
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rest of this year, and you
can move some things around next year as

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well, Danny. So I'm not
saying that Dodgers can sign Vladdie Junior to

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a three hundred million dollar contract,
because you can't sign everybody to that,

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but you can have him for the
next two years like you had Trey Turner.

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It would be an interesting move.
I don't know if it's exactly like

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the Turner move there. I see
the similarities you're talking about, but he's

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not really a third baseman, and
Max has improved a lot over there this

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season. He was doing really well. He has loved to pass. But

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I don't think if Vladimir Guro Junior
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I guess in Toronto, but he
was playing on AstroTurf. It's a

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lot different playing at Dodgers Stadium and
playing your games in the NL west On

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Grass and also being on the Dodgers
with Dino Ebol and Mookie Beds and Freddie

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Freeman as your first baseman. I
mean maybe. I mean we already took

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a bigio from them. I don't
know if you need to keep taking the

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the Toronto Blue Jays cast. You're
telling me, you're telling me Vladimir Guerrel

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Junior is a cast off. Any
team in baseball would love to have twenty

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five year old Vladimir Guerrel Junior.
You talk about I'm sure you're one of

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those guys too that complains about the
bottom third of the Dodger order. Do

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you know the impact it would have
on the Dodgers order if Vladimir Guerrero Junior

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was in it with the big four, it would move everybody down. It

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would move to Oscar down, it
would move Rojas down. It would just

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have a trickle down effect that would
be huge. It wouldn't just be about

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third base and Vladimir Guerrero Junior.
It would be for the whole lineup.

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Danny. I mean, he's a
very he's a talented hitter, Dave,

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But you'd have to give up a
lot to get that guy for a season.

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I don't know. I think I
think it's kind of hard plus for

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a season plus. Oh hey,
Dave, I have one other question,

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all right, I agree to disagree
on that. What's gonna have to give

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him too much to get the guy? Hey? I could be here for

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an hour and talking about the same
old, boring names. I'm thinking outside

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the box that I don't believe is
unrealistic, especially if you move off Garrett

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Crochet and you start thinking about Nathan
Vivaldi and then you start thinking about Vladimir

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Guerrero Junior. I was thinking Crochet
and Randyo Rose Arena, which still may

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be the two guys the Dodgers get. But I'm thinking outside the box now

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with Vladimir Guerrero Junior. With this
news about Max Munsey, I mean,

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I'd be more excited about seeing Vargas
over at third base, and you know,

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like they've been talking about and seeing
if he could do anything over there.

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You're gonna put a clunker over there
anyways, how do you how do

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you know he's a clunker. You're
gonna trust the blue JS well a third

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base he's played third base? Do
you know to play third base? And

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like I said, dude, the
Dodgers really emphasize defense. They want the

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bat in the lineup and they'll find
you a position. Well, we won't

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agree to disagree, Dave. We'll
see what we'll see what we'll see what

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happened in a few weeks, Like
like I was saying, you never know

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what player could become available. But
hey, what do you what are the

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chances Gavin Lucks is still a Dodger
come August one? What do you what

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are your thoughts there? I'd say
fifty to fifty. I'd say with Mookie

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Bets coming back and Miguel Rojas going
to be the Dodgers shortstop moving forward,

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I would say fifty to fifty.
If there's a trade that needs an extra

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player to be thrown in, it
could be Gavin lux Okay, and if

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he's still on the team, I
don't believe he'll be the starting second baseman.

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Well if he's not that, then
what's on the team for you know,

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he's not a question. I think
you use him in another capacity and

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get some value for the guy.
While why you can we'll see. And

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you know, I don't know who's
going to be traded. It's a rough

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time year because all these guys are
mentioning Vargas lux Autman. I mean,

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all these guys could be part of
a deal. You never know what what

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kind of deal they could pull off. I think you just answered your own

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question, Danny, Yeah, maybe
I did, Dave. Thank you for

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having me get there though. Man, all good man, thanks a lot

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for listening. Good conversation. Eight
six six nine eighty seven two five seventy

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is the phone number. We're gonna
take our final time out here on off

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day Dodger Talk. When we come
back, more mind numbing trade talk.

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Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Look, things
have changed in the last forty eight to

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seventy two hours with this Max Monsey
news. The Dodgers need a solution at

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third base if they can't count on
Max Mounsey. And his name is Vladimir

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Guerrero Junior. Eight six six nine
eighty seven, two five seventy is the

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phone number. Also ta Oscar Hernandez, who also has been a great leader

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for Pa Haz, Miguel Vargas and
others. He wants in on the home

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run derby. You'll hear from taoscar
next right here on a five to seventy

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LA Sports David Vasse taking you to
the top of the hour on this off

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day Dodger Talk. Jason Smith on
Fox Sports Radio will follow us. Tomorrow.

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The Dodgers will be back in action
against the Phillies in Philadelphia. Morongo

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Casino. Dodgers on Deck begins at
two point thirty with first pitch at three

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forty. It will be Bobby Miller
on the mound for the Dodgers tomorrow and

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Gavin Stone on the mound for the
Dodgers on Tuesday. We have a few

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more minutes for phone calls at eight
six six nine eighty seven two five seventy

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before we go on to anything else, I just want to send out our

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congratulations to Justin and Courtney Turner,
who welcomed their first child into the world

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a couple of days ago. I
was keeping tabs on it because full disclosure,

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I have Justin on one of my
fantasy teams, and it said he

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was on the paternity list, and
I was not aware the baby was due.

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So I just wanted to wish my
congratulations to Justin and Courtney. And

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Justin went back to work. The
Blue Jays are in San Francisco starting tomorrow,

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so I'm sure Justin made a pit
stop from Seattle to San Francisco back

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in LA. But all our best
to the Turner family and congratulations to Justin

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and Courtney. Eight six six nine
eight seven two five seventy is the phone

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number. Let's go out to Long
Beach, Joe. You're on Dodger Talk.

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How you doing, Joe? How
you doing? Dave? This is

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a Joe the Live driver. I
s bookes he a few weeks ago or

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a month. Hey, I remember
that you had a few few overserved ladies

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in your back seat. That's that's
right, that's right. Good for you,

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Good for them for taking a lift. Hey, listen, I love

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the trade potential to maybe get Laddie, but couldn't we get Justin Turner thrown

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in there? I would love to
have Justin Turner back and look third base.

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Yeah, I wouldn't rule it out. I mean, we've seen other

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former Dodgers come back, so I
wouldn't rule it out. But you know,

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Vladimir Guerrero Junior is the impact bat
we're talking about. And Joe,

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can you believe there's Astros bloggers now
saying the Houston Astros should trade for Justin

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Turner to play first base for Houston? Would Justin block a trade there,

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even with a no trade clause?
Would he just say I am not going

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there? Can you? I can't
even imagine Justin Turner in an Astros uniform.

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Yeah, I don't think that'll go. I don't think he would go

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for that I was just thinking,
you know what, Hey, you get

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the big bat with with Laddie and
you would take care of third base at

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the same time. Yeah, I
agree, I agree. Thanks a lot

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for the phone call, Joe.
And I'm not really sure how much third

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base Justin Turner has played in Toronto. I know the Red Sox last year

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were using him as a DH and
first baseman, and it feels like that's

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the way Toronto is using him as
well. So I'm not sure the range

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is there for thirty nine year old
Justin Turner to go back to third base.

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I want to mention Taoscar Hernandez,
speaking of the Blue Jays, former

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Blue Jay, another guy that certainly
would be a mentor to Vladimir Guerrero Junior.

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I'm sure he was a big brother
to him when he came up in

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Toronto. Ta Oscar let me know
a few days ago that he wants in

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in the Home Run Derby, but
he's just waiting for Major League Baseball to

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invite him. What's taken so long? There's so many guys like Aaron Judge

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that say, no, why not
invite a guy that has more home runs

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and RBIs than any other National League
outfielder to participate in the Home Run Derby.

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Look, he's a showman. He
came up with the sunflower seeds.

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He's not some stiff that's just going
to hit home runs. He's got a

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personality. I'm all in with ta
Oscar Hernandez being part of the Home Run

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Derby. And here was Taoskar after
the game yesterday going on the record that

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he wants in on the derby.
You've said that if you made the All

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Star team, he would love to
be in the Home Run Derby. Is

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that still something you're interested in?
Yeah? Yeah, why not? Obviously

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in my career, I wanted to. I wanted to be a part of

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it, see how it feels,
and why not trying to go for it

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and then win everything. So now
it's official, your name's out there.

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I don't know. I don't know. It depends how MLV wants to decide

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yes or no, but I'm able
to. I'm gonna be open to participate

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on it, all right, ta
Oscar Hernandez, now no on the record

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for being wanting in on the Home
Run Derby. Make it happen, Major

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League Baseball. You already snubbed former
Dodger Kennley Jansen. Can you believe Kenley

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Jansen did not make the All Star
team but Yankees closer? Oh, the

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Yankees. The Yankees got Clay Holmes
selected by Major League Baseball to be part

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of the Al Relief Corps. Clay
Holmes, who has five blown saves and

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a whip of one to three zero
six, made it over Kenley Janssen,

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who is on the verge of being
the man with the fourth most saves in

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Major League Baseball history. Ken Lee
snubbed again. I can't think of a

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guy that is a possible Hall of
Famer being snubbed as many times as Kenley

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Jansen has in his career for an
All Star opportunity. Ken Ley this year

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with the Red Sox has converted seventeen
of eighteen six opportunities and has a whip

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just over one. And he's not
saving three run leads in Boston. I

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got news for you. He's saving
one two run leads so and that's why

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I said he was a bigger snub
than Craig Kimbrel. Come on, we

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all know about Craig Kimbrel, right, He's not on the level of Kenley

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Jansen, even at this stage of
their careers, and I love that Kenley

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Jansen continues to prove the critics wrong. Many thought he was done three or

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four years ago, and he's still
going strong. He had a great year

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with Boston last year. He had
a great year the year before with Atlanta.

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He is still one of the best
closers in all of baseball and still

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is the reigning saves champion for the
Dodgers. He has more saves than any

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other Dodger in franchise history, three
hundred and fifty. He deserved to be

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an All Star and I find it
hard to believe if things continue this way,

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with the Red Sox being in the
wildcard race and now only three games

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back of the Yankees in the Al
East, that they are going to trade

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Kenley Janssen. That just would not
go over well in Boston. Boston is

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seven and a half games back of
Baltimore and they're now four and a half

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games back of the Yankees in the
standings, but only three back in the

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lost column. And as far as
the Wildcard goes, and I know there's

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been rumors about Kenley being traded back
to the Dodgers, the Red Sox are

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actually right now the last wildcard team
in the American League is Yankees Twins,

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Red Sox. Red Sox are forty
nine to forty. And that's a testament

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to Alex kra who learned how to
really manage baseball ce baseball coming up through

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the Dodger organization. He was drafted, developed by the Dodgers and I'll never

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forget get. While Alex was still
playing, Steve Garvey walked up to us

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in the dugout and said, this
guy is going to be a manager and

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a great one, and it's turned
out to be true. All right,

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that'll do it for us on Dodger
Talk tonight. We will be with you

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after the game tomorrow Morongo Casino.
Dodgers on Deck begins at two thirty with

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Tim Kits First Pitch with Rick Monday
and Tim Neverett in Philadelphia at three forty.

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Thanks to Ronnie Focio at our Burbank
Studios. Thanks to you for listening.

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In case you missed any of the
show, you can find it on

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you tomorrow. Have a great rest of

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