WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.879 The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:09.039 the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience. 3 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:18.839 As always, listener discretion is advised. We got someone or something growing around 4 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:27.640 out here? Does a legend walk among us working in the forests of our 5 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:34.159 world? Did you see what it was? Well? It a person or 6 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.759 an animal? Or I can't go. Oh, I know it's that my 7 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:40.240 thunder light came on and I get happened to glimp and see the thing running 8 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.960 across the yard. A good sight man or something works like a man. 9 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:52.200 I don't know what it was. For over fifteen years, we've talked with 10 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:59.000 scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around 11 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:08.239 the existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus quiet, hello, get some money 12 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.519 out of here. What's going on? Announce there? Thable mentions about six 13 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.599 foot right. I don't know, easy, announce there. Yeah, I'm 14 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:21.799 working right her? Oh, okay, hand on her, Yeah, got 15 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.359 it's bigger. Okay, what's he doing here? Yarn? We're gonna do 16 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:55.560 join us as we continue into the investigation of the sasquatch experience. And again, 17 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.920 good evening, folks. I'm Sean the fork Chop Forker, James Baker, 18 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.000 Matt Arner, Henry vance Nes. Been on and off with some technical 19 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:07.000 difficulties. We're operating in low power mode here, not in purpose, but 20 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.280 we're having some technical difficulties with internet service. But we found a way to 21 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:14.560 broadcast live to you tonight. So give us a little mercy of things don't 22 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.520 go so well. But Henry a little bit of sad news to kick the 23 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:21.199 show off with. Why don't you go ahead? Did you can see down 24 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.960 there in the corner, folks, in memory of Bill Braun, longtime researcher 25 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:30.039 passed away February fifteenth, Go ahead, Henry. Yeah. Bill was one 26 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:36.120 of those researchers that no a whole lot of big players knew about. But 27 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.599 he was one of the most dedicated. Yeah. He was the one stand 28 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:46.680 of the original A Bear Roads incident from nineteen seventy six, correct. And 29 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:52.960 he was always nice to me. He always it's like as he would call 30 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.960 me, and he would send me letters back of me to send letters, 31 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.080 send me pictures of the fall colors up there in the Northeast. Yeah, 32 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.080 yeah, it's tragic, Henry. I mean, you know, it's never, 33 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.479 never nice to lose anybody in this research, but when you're a little 34 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.919 bit more connected to them, you know, Bill was a mentor to one 35 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:21.759 of my good friends, Steve Coles. Steve, of course, posted over 36 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:27.080 the weekend, had a nice tribute to Bill. We interviewed Bill Brown many 37 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.879 years ago. I reposted that episode yesterday so folks could go and take a 38 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:36.960 listen. It's important that we understand it and recognize our history and where the 39 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.280 research comes from and where it's been and where we're going, because I feel 40 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:43.039 like so many people are a part of this, Henry, and they get 41 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.000 swept away because they may not be the famous TV personalities and they may not 42 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:52.199 have written forty two books on the subject. But Bill's impact is on us, 43 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:54.800 you know, people that followed his work and people that were, you 44 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:59.439 know, a lot more closely associated with Bill than I was. Seth bridlove 45 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.840 right last night that if it wasn't for Bill, Beast of Whitehall probably would 46 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:09.080 have never happened. So when you talk about some impact Bill had aside from 47 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.879 that interview, he was gracious enough to give us those years ago. You 48 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.040 know, he had an impact and he will be missed, of course by 49 00:04:15.079 --> 00:04:18.720 friends and family and by those of us in the community. We lost another 50 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:25.399 stable, solid voice and our you know, hearts go out to his family 51 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:30.519 and his friends. So ex absolutely kicked the show off in that regard. 52 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.000 Guys, Tonight we have an interesting show. We want to do something a 53 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.759 little different that big old Sasquatch. Right, We're going to talk about bigfoot 54 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:44.759 creatures that exceed the threshold of reasonable size. And I know over the years 55 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:48.160 we've I think we've got vance back here. You know, sometimes we often 56 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:54.639 scoff at these reports of creatures being over ten feet tall ten eleven, twelve, 57 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:58.720 thirteen, fourteen, fifteen feet, but these reports happen, and tonight 58 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:00.480 we're going to talk about him. I think one of the things we have 59 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.720 to really recognize right at the front is that you know, Lawer and Coleman, 60 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:11.759 Patrick, Hugh, Mark Hall, gentlemen of that generation, you know, 61 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.000 really took it seriously, wrote some really good books. I have them 62 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:20.240 right here. There's True Giants which you can get. This is the Field 63 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:25.079 Guide to Bigfoot. Another Mystery Primates. This is the second edition I believe 64 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:30.720 I have the first edition in my library over here he talks about it as 65 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:34.160 and Bigfoot, the True Stories of Apes in America. And then also I 66 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:38.800 got my research materials all over this destiny, so bear with me. I 67 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.040 know somebody will get on there and say they're never prepared, kiss my ass. 68 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:48.920 And then True Stories Giants Giants is the gigantopithec is still alive? Yeah? 69 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.360 Right? And so Henry, why don't you, you know, just 70 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.279 feeling a little bit on the overview of the true giants once you became familiar 71 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.319 with the term. Well, I read that book in twenty eleven. I 72 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:04.600 got a copy of it from from Lauren at the John Green Tribute, a 73 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:11.000 sign copy, and he and Mark A. Hall did quite the light. 74 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.319 Mark A. Hall quite a bit of work, quite a bit of research 75 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:24.279 on this topic. And they said, well, these may seem like they're 76 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:29.360 true sasquatch, but they're really not. They're just gigantic. Well, they're 77 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.399 covered in hair, so what else would you call them? Right? The 78 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:39.639 behavior is sasquatch like the footprints or sasquatch like, albeit much larger. Now, 79 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:44.920 there have been some interesting encounters of them reported wearing flannel shirts or other 80 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:49.000 pieces of clothing or you know, being very large, maybe not so quite 81 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:56.120 bulky and massive, but definitely larger built and kind of lanky. So it's 82 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.879 just interesting to hear some of these stories. Matt Baker, what do you 83 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:03.600 guys got before we are diving into some of the true giants. Well, 84 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:08.240 like if we take it from a man's perspective, like I just looked it 85 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:15.839 up, and like the the tallest man was Robert Wablow and he was eight 86 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:20.600 foot eleven inches, And you have like people like Andre the Giant. You 87 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.759 have some of the people that, like you can actually whatever. Most of 88 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:30.839 them died because of structural issues, you know, like their knees went quicker 89 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.040 in the in their circulation was a problem in their back, and the way 90 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:40.399 they stood because because the hut, you know, that height made it so 91 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:45.439 hard for them to just you know, move around consistently. So I would 92 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.680 I would say that if it is a gigantic creature, I'm more on the 93 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:54.920 possibility that it's a gigantic like a giant that's made structurally to be a giant 94 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:59.639 more than a really large like eleven or twelve foot like ape like creature. 95 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.600 I don't know. I go more with the mythical less than the real life 96 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.639 creature that could be eleven to twelve feet high. You're a p five fox 97 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.439 FuMB man, huh, because like you look, like I said, structurally, 98 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.199 Like you look at a lot of these people, even athletes, athletes 99 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.519 over seven foot tall or people over seven foot tall, their knees and their 100 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:24.879 joints start to go because it's so it's so hard just to stand that tall. 101 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:31.319 Yeah, you know, plus doorways must be a bitch. Yeah, 102 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.000 I mean, you're not kidding, Robert Wadlow, You're right. He did, 103 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.399 you know, eight foot eleven. They said when he died, his 104 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.879 casket was over ten feet long and weighed over one thousand pounds. Took I 105 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.080 believe what did it say here? It took probably twelve guys, twelve Paul 106 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:52.919 Bears and eight assistants to help. That's that's quite a that's quite a train. 107 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.000 Andre the giant was so big that when they had to do surgery, 108 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.080 they had no clue how much anesthetic or how much stuff to give him. 109 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.559 And then they asked one of his coworkers how much can he drink? And 110 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.440 they're like, you didn't want to start that right, and you know, 111 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:15.679 both of them probably had some form of pituitary issue. Andre the Giant, 112 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.200 of course, we know was Acromegley, I believe is what it was called. 113 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.919 Yes, and he suffered with that for a very long time. And 114 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.639 you know, he was a world attraction. I don't know if he was 115 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.320 quite seven foot four as he was billed in the pro wrestling world. You 116 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.759 know, those heights are often you know, exaggerate a little bit. But 117 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.720 well, there's that one famous picture where he's standing next to Vince McMahon. 118 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.399 Vince McMahon six foot I don't know we're allowed to talk about him right now, 119 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.000 but he's six foot three and Andre the Giant looks like he's two feet 120 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.360 taller than Vince McMahon, but you know, in reality, he's probably a 121 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.960 foot foot taller. So there are a little bit of stage tricks that they 122 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.960 used. But Andre, it wasn't just so much the fact that he was 123 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.759 a tall he was just massive in general. Large. Yeah, five pounds, 124 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.279 that's quite the proportional person. So there's a lot of mass there. 125 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.879 And then so we take that and we talk about something that's probably twice the 126 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:16.360 size of Entre the Giant. Think of that's the size you know that pop 127 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.600 in the office if you want to show picture, it kind of looks like 128 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.960 but like And that's where I think we need to look at is you know, 129 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.039 with anything we do in this community, we have to look at a 130 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:30.559 creature that we can poke a stick at, as you said, you know, 131 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.200 and say, okay, this is this is what a ape of this 132 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.399 whatever would look like. How what's I didn't look it up, So if 133 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.759 somebody knows, maybe Henry knows. Do you know what the largest ape ever 134 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.320 was? Well, that would have been gigo bithegous. But we're talking about 135 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:52.759 creatures that reach might reach around ten to fifteen feet, at least ten to 136 00:10:52.799 --> 00:11:00.200 fifteen feet, although you know, and there was a signing I guess we're 137 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:05.120 going to talk about nineteen sixty five at the Big Horn Dam. I think 138 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.639 it was a Big Horn Dam site where the workers claiming they saw a fifteen 139 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:16.440 foot Sasquatch. We just think of that height, Henry and got fifteen feet. 140 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.159 The root the ceiling in this room, I believe is thirteen feet, 141 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.720 So you're talking about something that's another two feet taller than that. That's immense, 142 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.480 but it's not insular to that one. Look he there have been reports 143 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.440 up in Maine, Henry of these creatures being over ten feet tall, creatures 144 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.759 in Nova Scotia. I was just on a podcast over the week in New 145 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:43.960 Labrador that was it was a paranormal podcast she had me on. She was 146 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:50.039 telling me the creature sightings of over twelve feet tall. That's huge, Matt. 147 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.080 You were going to say something there and we kind of went off the 148 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.399 trail. How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing good. Hopefully you 149 00:11:54.440 --> 00:12:00.000 guys can hear me because I'm having some Internet issues myself. But all right, 150 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.799 perfect. I mean, there's so much I want to talk about tonight. 151 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:09.360 Obviously, the number one thing that comes from a lot of different researchers 152 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:16.679 is Bergmann's rule. So we're not looking at we're not hearing about these creatures 153 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.279 down in Florida, you know that, are you know, ten twelve feet 154 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:28.039 tall? Generally the creatures that you're hearing about in Florida could be anywhere from 155 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:33.440 six to eight feet. But the one set of stories that I heard about 156 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:39.919 was about the Nahani Valley and the headless people of the Nahani Valley, where 157 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.320 I guess there was a couple of people that they found their bodies and their 158 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:50.519 heads were missing. And this is in the Northwest territories. It is, 159 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:56.000 it is, so this is very close to the Arctic Circle. And the 160 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:01.440 one thing is is they were talking about up there that were that were in 161 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.799 nexcess of twelve feet tall, that were that were in this valley area. 162 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:13.120 So that kind of plays into the whole Bergman's rule that animals, some animals 163 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.320 from the same species could be bigger. I think a deer too. If 164 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:22.320 you see a deer, say from Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, 165 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.919 they're generally smaller than say a Pennsylvania deer. If you look at a 166 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.840 deer from Maine, or if we're going out to west coast like Saskatchewan, 167 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.960 Alberta, those deer are huge compared, but they're still the same species. 168 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:45.679 And it's that could be where Bergmann's rule comes into play. The only thing 169 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:54.120 that throws Bergmann's rule off is humans. So what I did was I researched 170 00:13:54.399 --> 00:14:01.679 the average size of the Inuit, which are commonly referred to as Eskimos, 171 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:07.759 you know, it's the Inua tribe, and I think they're they're average. 172 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:13.240 They're average height is about five foot six for males, it's rather small. 173 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:20.360 So you do have somebody that, you know, a human being that lives 174 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.440 in that area closer to the Arctic circle, but their bodies are smaller than 175 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.679 say somebody from you know, you know, from closer to the equator where 176 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.240 especially if you look in certain areas that I mean, you know, you 177 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.399 got these guys that are growing, you know, like we just said, 178 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:41.000 you know it six and a half seven feet tall, and you know they're 179 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.559 not coming from Canada. You know, they're not coming from from these northern 180 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:52.360 places. But the one kind of quotion that that comes into play is not 181 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.840 just environment but nutrition. So that plays a lot into it as well in 182 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.200 terms of humans. But humans kind of duck the bergman's role as opposed to 183 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.440 other species that that seemed to you know, go along with that. What 184 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:15.559 we leave to be is that because we have less tribal genetics, like be 185 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.840 into it. And the reason that they're all let's say five foot tall is 186 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.440 because everybody there is five foot tall, so consistently the genetics would make that 187 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.240 five foot tall person. But like if you put a bunch of seven foot 188 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:31.320 tall people that got let's we'll say, a plane crash is their name with 189 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.679 a with a basketball team, and it takes ten years to find them. 190 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.720 And would you have a bunch of seven foot six, you know, with 191 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.600 the range change because you had a new That's that's a good question. Genetics 192 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.919 does play a big part of it. But the other part that that plays 193 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:54.399 into it. Two is nutrition. People today. I mean we as we 194 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:00.159 as humans have gotten much bigger over the last almost one hundred years because of 195 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:06.120 because of the nutrition that we're having. You know, if I walked up 196 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:11.240 to you know, my great great great grandfather, you know, I'm I'm 197 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:17.039 six foot four, you know, and most people back in the eighteen hundreds, 198 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:22.840 your your average size is only about five eight or so. So again, 199 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.679 I you know, as you know, we're kind of changing a little 200 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.480 bit, you know, in a you know, faster reaction. But when 201 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:36.000 those northern areas like that, there were exception with the Vikings. I did 202 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:41.799 research people from Scandinavian countries and we always talked about the Vikings, you know, 203 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.759 like you know, there are these big, strong, monstrous people. 204 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:52.159 But on the other hand, they had it goes back to nutrition as well. 205 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:57.200 They had access to certain grain crops because they would go in a raid, 206 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:03.120 they had access to obviously all sorts of proteins, all sorts of fats, 207 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:11.599 so there's plenty of the variabilities to increase that size. But for the 208 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:17.319 Inuits, a lot of their their traditional diet is you know rather you know, 209 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.559 a lot of fat content, a lot of protein. But in terms 210 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:26.799 of the yes, yes, you know, you're not talking about the best 211 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.599 about the best growing the seasons up there in the in the Arctics, so 212 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:40.680 yeah, growing well kind of both trade to grill man, Yeah, yeah, 213 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:44.599 but like you make, you make a valid point, and like if 214 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:51.400 you look at like tribal areas where man doesn't interact with other people, Let's 215 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.279 say, for instance, like there was there was an article I read a 216 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:57.880 little while ago that from like two hundred years in France there was a place 217 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.200 that they were all in breeding because there's no ever, you know, Saint 218 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:07.000 Olive. You've got places like there's tribes in Africa that I've never seen another 219 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.359 person that's not part of their tribe. Then that and not exactly in breeding, 220 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.640 but I'm just saying that that they only have so much genetic whatever, 221 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.480 or like you know, when England and France and Spain would only the kings 222 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:23.799 and queens would only go with other kings and queens, and eventually you started 223 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.680 to see diseases and different things like that. The same could be with these 224 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:33.920 gigantic animals. If if you're if you're in an area where all the all 225 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.160 the apes are only five foot tall, you're not. You might get a 226 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.920 random seven foot tall ap. But you may have the secondary issue of they 227 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.960 may say that is weird. He doesn't get to mate with any of my 228 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.359 children, do you know what I mean? So you know, it kind 229 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:53.039 of goes. I don't know that being it's an animal, But on my 230 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.839 case, I like I said that exists. It's got to be smart. 231 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.599 There might be that question of he's genetically weird. We're not going to mate 232 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:06.039 with it, you know what I mean? Like a deer doesn't care a 233 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.000 deer than he He doesn't care the other deer six but he's only there, 234 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:11.400 but he just like, yeah, if I can get up on you know 235 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:18.480 whatever. You know, But you know, that's a good point. I 236 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.319 just saw. We we had a question just posed to us. You know 237 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.559 how many you know, how long ago was it that you know people over 238 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.759 six foot were giants? And and really I mean, you know you can 239 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.960 go back in history and especially like I I'm a big Civil War buff, 240 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.160 not as big as some of the other you know, some of our listeners 241 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.640 maybe, but I do you know, delve into it because we're close to 242 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.279 Gettysburg. But they would talk about these, you know, giant men who 243 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:51.599 were you know, like whether they're officers or you know, in the staffs 244 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:56.799 that were you know, straddling at six feet tall or six feet two. 245 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:02.759 So it was not as calm. It was still you were still getting tall 246 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.359 people, but it wasn't as common as you see today. I miss that 247 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:12.440 train. I'm not considered in time, and it can also consider value. 248 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.720 Like right now, if you're a taller person, you have some value, 249 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.759 yes, you know, if you're certain, like if you're built a certain 250 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.400 way, you have value. I'm not you know, And I would say 251 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.480 one hundred years ago, if you were built a certain way, you had 252 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.960 value. If you were built a different way, they didn't let you. 253 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.680 You know, they like said, hey, you go over there with those 254 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.759 people. You're not going to get near my daughter, you know. But 255 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.160 the thing was is now it's like, oh he's tall at six feet okay, 256 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.519 whatever. You know, they you know, if they had red hair 257 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.839 and green eyes. They weren't a witch, you know, yes, so 258 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:55.160 yeah, And even going back to you were talking about the indigenous people, 259 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.160 I was thinking of every swapping. You see videos of that that island in 260 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:04.960 Senegal off the coast of Senegal, with the that the tribe has had literally 261 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:11.319 zero contact with people. There was a missionary that I guess landed on the 262 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.880 beach and they ended up eating them at some point. But he had a 263 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.160 valid he validly wastowd multiple times. Get off there. Oh he was old, 264 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:22.279 Yeah, and then put one back. So you know, from a 265 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:27.200 guy who likes my front yard with everybody on it, I agree, I 266 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:33.359 agree if you saw the pictures, like you know, they I believe it's 267 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:41.319 under the under the jurisdiction of India and the Indian Navy actually patrols that area 268 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.559 so that there's no contact everything. Yes, but they will they will occasionally 269 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:51.839 take pictures. And when you see the pictures, you know it's they're a 270 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.480 taller people. You know, they're generally tall. They they had the long 271 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:02.519 arms quite different than what you see you know with the Inuit tribes throughout Canada 272 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.759 and Alaska. Solid points, Solid points, guys, are gonna take our 273 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.880 quick news break here, see if we can rally and reboot. And when 274 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:15.799 we come back, we'll continue this discussion true giants, maybe get into some 275 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.680 true giant stories when we come back with the Sasquatch experience. Folks stick around 276 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:32.359 New Steam a symbol. And so you figured that I would take about five 277 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.519 seconds for the world to win, but no, it was actually close. 278 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:47.559 Then then about thirty years past and Germany decides again to go to war, 279 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:56.119 and again it chooses as its enemy the world, and this time they have 280 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.519 that guy kind that guy, And I'm not even gonna dignify him by saying 281 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:06.440 his name, but I you know I'm done. Ah. Yes, the 282 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:14.640 soft and velvety sounds of Norm MacDonald. This is the Bigfootbullhorn exclusively on the 283 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:18.720 Sasquatch Experience. And a happy Monday night to you all. I hope your 284 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.119 weekend recovery has gone well. But why did we bring up the Germany thing? 285 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:29.440 Well, it's kind of ironic. Germany is not really known for its 286 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.359 sense of humor, so a study was done out of Munich, Germany. 287 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:40.680 What's so funny? Well, a new study suggests that apes possess a sense 288 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:45.599 of humor just like humans. An international team has discovered that four species of 289 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:52.480 great apes are Rangutang's, chimpanzees, Bonobo's, and gorillas, all engage in 290 00:23:52.559 --> 00:24:02.440 playful teasing with one another. This behavior, identified by cognitive biologist and primatologists, 291 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:10.079 mirrors human joking in its provocation, persistent nature, incorporating elements of surprise 292 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:15.839 and play. The findings indicate that all four grade ape species engage in this 293 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:22.559 playful teasing, leading the research team to propose that the foundational elements of humor 294 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:30.640 may have evolved in the human lineage at least thirteen million years ago. Now. 295 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:36.880 According to researchers, humor plays a crucial role in human interactions, relying 296 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:42.400 on social intelligence, the ability to protict future actions and the recognition and appreciation 297 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:49.480 of others' expectations are to be defined. Teasing shares many similarities with joking, 298 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:57.200 suggesting that playful teasing could serve as a cognitive precursor to humor. The researchers 299 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:04.519 conducted an analysis of spontaneous social interactions among apes that were playful, mildly harassing, 300 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:11.160 or provocative in nature. During these interactions, they closely observed the actions, 301 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.640 body movements, and facial expressions of the apes initiating the teasing, as 302 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:22.400 well as the reactions from those being teased. It was common for teasers to 303 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.960 repeatedly wave or swing body parts or an object in the middle of the target's 304 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:32.519 field of vision, hit or poke them, stare closely at their face, 305 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:37.920 disrupt their movements, pull on their hair, or perform other behaviors that were 306 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:44.079 extremely difficult for the target to ignore. Although playful teasing took many forms in 307 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.880 the study, researchers say it still differed from play in many ways. Playful 308 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:53.839 teasing in the Great Apes is one sided, very much coming from the teaser, 309 00:25:55.079 --> 00:26:00.200 often throughout the entire interaction, and rarely reciprocated. The animal also rarely 310 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:06.200 use play signals, like the primary playface, which is similar to what we 311 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:11.279 would call a smile or hold gestures that signaled their intent to play. The 312 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:18.279 team also found that playful teasing mainly took place when the apes were relaxed, 313 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:26.759 and their behavior shared similarities with human behaviors. When we come back, it's 314 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:33.839 the March to Georgia. You're listening to the big footbullhorn right here on the 315 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:47.839 Sasquatch experience. Do you have an annoying car. Do you have an annoying 316 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:52.359 team? Is your annoying team eating up the dollars you need to replace your 317 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.920 annoying car. Does it feel like you'll never get that dream car that you 318 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:03.759 promised yourself when you grew up? 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The seventh Georgia Bigfoot Conference 327 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:19.000 will be held at the Dillard House in Dillard, Georgia on March fifteenth through 328 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:25.599 the sixteenth, twenty twenty four. The events is sponsored by Mind Zero, 329 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:32.599 matt Man Foundation, LLC and R. M. Rose Distillery and features keynote 330 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:40.119 speakers Ron Moorhead, Brooks Agnew, Robin Haines, McCrae, Christian McLoud and 331 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:47.799 Sonya Thompson. Enjoy your reception in roundtables, cryptid themed cocktails, vendor boosts, 332 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:56.480 stories, activities, fellowship and Georgia Bigfoot Banquet. Thanks again for listening 333 00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.440 to this edition of the Big Football Horn. Right here, I'm a Sasquatch 334 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.519 Experience and you know what to do, right, Guys, keep your toe 335 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:18.160 in the mind. Thanks Vance. I know you're not here here, but 336 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.880 I know you're hearing this somewhere a lot of hears anyhow, Folks, I'm 337 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:23.440 Sean the Ford Shop fork Er. That's you, James Baker, Matt Arnor 338 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:29.440 Henry May your guides and hosts for tonight's episode of The Sasquatch Experience, Episode 339 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:37.279 ninety five. That big old Sasquatch talking about true giants and Matt was hitting 340 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.880 us with some heavy facts before we jumped off to the break. And guys, 341 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:47.400 some great stories you know from the pitt Lake, British Columbia area of 342 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.440 some some really large sized sasquatch. Hen Are you familiar with the pitt Lake 343 00:29:52.480 --> 00:30:00.640 stories? Oh? Think I may have read about them, but remember much 344 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.000 about so you know, the problem is it's not a topic we talk about 345 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.279 a lot. Again, as you know, we had had this conversation. 346 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.519 Happened in the nineteen sixties to sixty five. You can find this on bigfootencounters 347 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.359 dot Com. Of course, Bobby Short's fantastic website still out there on the 348 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.400 internet. You know, Bobby might have passed on, but her legacy still 349 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.599 lives on with the Bigfoot Encounter's website. Great restores for historical Bigfoot stories. 350 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.000 If you get a chance, go check that out. Pitt Lake is twenty 351 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.319 to thirty five miles up the Fraser River from Vancouver, BC. It is 352 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.160 a very it is very rare that it's one of the largest freshwater lakes in 353 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.880 the world affected directly by the Pacific Ocean tides. That's an interesting fact for 354 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:47.559 you. An incident in the early nineteen sixties, this, of course, 355 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.160 is an article by Ken Christian. Go back to where I was in that 356 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.839 article because I wanted to quote the author. An incident in the early nineteen 357 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.279 sixties got me interested in the subject of SaaS squatch. When something like this, 358 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.400 a logging company owner by the name of Joe Manouk had a similar show 359 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:08.160 at a palace at a palace at a place at Lake called Frenchman's Bay now 360 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.519 known as Christian Cove on the maps. He went up the mountain about one 361 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.720 mile or so to get it some big timber and a very steep and rugged 362 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.680 canyon. In the process of setting up a temporary camp for his crew, 363 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.880 he towed a wood frame and plywood cook bunk house on a three foot round 364 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.480 skid logs up the valley with a D eight cat at some sort of equipment. 365 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.720 After the log show and got most of the good wood out, he 366 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.000 left the old cook bunk house up there for family and friends to use as 367 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.799 a hunting cabin, and one weekend during the fall of nineteen sixty two, 368 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.920 my friends fred Ron and Vince headed up to the area for some blacktail hunting. 369 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.720 Of course, they're called about blacktail deer. They reached the place on 370 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.799 a Friday afternoon and proceeded to give the old cabin a quick sweep to get 371 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.759 rid of the mouse droppings, chop enough firewood the last couple days, cook 372 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.200 some dinner, and then they hit the sack for some really much needed rest. 373 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.440 Sometime during the middle of the night, they were all rudely awakened by 374 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.279 a massive crash of something hitting the outside of the cabin hard enough to dislodge 375 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:15.119 to sew the stove pipes and fill the entire cabin with black soot and choking 376 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.319 smoke. At first light in the morning, they inspected the cabin fully. 377 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.720 They expected the cabin, fully expecting to find a giant boulder claw marks from 378 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.319 a big bear or some other such sign on the outside walls, but found 379 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.279 nothing. I went up the following weekend on a hunting trip and had a 380 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.359 good look around the cabin for myself. I found no broken branches on any 381 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.920 of the small olders that had sprung up besides the cabin, or anything else 382 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:43.880 to indicate something with a rational explanation responsible could have crashed into the cabin. 383 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.759 Over the years, I often pondered the thought of what could possibly hit the 384 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.839 cabin walls so high up above the skid logs on the bunk side, where 385 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.200 everyone was sleeping and probably snoring a bit, with the force required to knock 386 00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.720 the stove in its pipes completely out of commission. Not one of us could 387 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.440 figure this out until later date, when the stories of sasquatch began to quietly 388 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.279 circulate among the area's loggers. In the late nineteen sixties, myself and a 389 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:14.160 few other commercial fishermen and old hand laggers went to visit Oscar Greenland, now 390 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.920 deceased, a longtime hand lagger and permanent resident of Pitt Lake. Oscar seemed 391 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.920 to enjoy our visits, as we always brought a bottle of his favorite gin 392 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.160 and some type of retreat for his faithful old dog. Sometime during the long 393 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.480 hour BS session, the subject of sasquatch was injected into the noisy conversation. 394 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.359 Oscar told us about a time some years back when he was heading up the 395 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.559 lake towards at home. Towards home at first light on a beautiful summer morning. 396 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.799 He went on to explain that the lake was as flat as glass and 397 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.480 there wasn't a breath of wind. As they were heading out from point to 398 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.640 point, he happened to glance towards the shoreline and noticed a rhythmic splashing about 399 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:53.480 three hundred yards away. Out of curiosity, he decided to head his old 400 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:59.359 east top powered ex grill nutter towards the beach and each in case someone was 401 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.519 in trouble. As he got closer, he noticed a downed alder or cottonwood 402 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.000 tree lying in the water, with what appeared to be a huge, dark 403 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.079 colored man ape jumping up and down on it, looking for all the world 404 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.559 like it was simply playing and totally amused by the splashes it was baking the 405 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.960 water his damp snaxt plane in the water. Oscar went on to explain that 406 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.840 the once the ape like creature spotted him getting closer, it went up the 407 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.480 tree faster than any man could have possibly gone, and quickly disappeared into the 408 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:30.039 bush. Old Oscar then asked if we thought there were any grizzly bears in 409 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.920 the Pit Lake country. While none of us had ever seen or heard of 410 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.079 a grizzly bear down low in his general neck of the woods, we asked 411 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.360 him why he inquired. Oscar said that one day he was up behind his 412 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.199 cabin cutting shake blocks when his dog suddenly began to growl, bark, and 413 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.719 generally go crazy. Oscar said he stared in the direction the dog's gaze was 414 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.000 fixed upon, and saw what he thought was about an eight foot or taller 415 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.880 grizzly standing on its hind legs, partially hidden behind some olders Oscar went on 416 00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.880 to say that he heard plenty of bears grunt and cougar's scream in the day 417 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.320 in the bush, but never heard such a tremendously rout roar come from out 418 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.159 of any animal he knew of. So that one was about eight feet tall. 419 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:12.800 And there's another story that goes around the in nineteen ninety five in the 420 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.480 same area they find a fresh set of seventeen inch sasquatch tracks, and then 421 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.719 another story around that sixty to sixty five time where they saw a twelve foot 422 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:27.880 tall black sasquatch in that area. And so the Pitt Lake area, as 423 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.159 you could see in that ninety at that sixties the sixty five time had quite 424 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:35.360 a number of sightings reported. Think with that something large enough and impactful enough 425 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.679 to hit the side of that cabin and knock the stovepipe out of the wall 426 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:44.760 that's got shades of Ape Canyon to that story, something eight feet tall or 427 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.800 larger, And that's pretty damn big. I mean, even eight feet is 428 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:54.639 still a little bit larger than an acceptable creature should be. Well, I 429 00:35:54.760 --> 00:36:00.199 was gonna say in the research I was doing too grizzly bears, And again 430 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:06.199 these are you know, not in that that particular area. But grizzly bears 431 00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.599 could be, you know, standing on their hind legs up to ten feet 432 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:16.320 tall, and then a polar bear would be up to twelve. So you 433 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.880 know, but if you're not you're not seeing a polar bear, you know, 434 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:25.719 walking around in you know, southern you know, British Columbia or in 435 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.320 those areas that would be rather outside their region, correct, right, But 436 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.360 there was talk of that hybrid. I don't remember the name of that, 437 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.360 do you know what I'm referring to? It was an Alaskan killer bear. 438 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.800 It was like the hybrid of the grizzly and polar and it was really large, 439 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.360 like thirteen or fourteen feet tall, massive claws on it. And I 440 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.119 don't know if they ever found any truth behind that or not, but you 441 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.400 know what I'm referring to, man, Yes, yep. What else we 442 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.360 got out there for stories of the big fella pretty interesting, Henry. You 443 00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:01.159 got the stories of true giants there we go. Well, I wanted I 444 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.719 kind of touched on it earlier, but the story at Big Horn, damn 445 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:13.400 in I think it was Alberta where several workers spotted a what they estimated to 446 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.400 be a fifteen foot tall creature standing there watching them. And the way they 447 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.559 determined it was fifteen feet was they went over there later and they measure the 448 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:30.360 tree, measured a tree which and they prepare they make comparison. They realized, 449 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:36.079 Holy crap, I think it was fifteen feet tall. Well, the 450 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.159 nice thing is when you have a tree so close you can go and actually 451 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.480 get a physical measurement of that. It makes all the difference in the world 452 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.920 when you can really get a true, accurate height assessment. And so you're 453 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:52.519 measuring something ten to fifteen feet. Could you imagine health just massive that is 454 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.159 just in scope when you're seeing that for the first time, Like I'm trying 455 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.440 to, you know, just imagine, you know, Matt, you and 456 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.639 I standing at a vista and all of a sudden looking at and there's a 457 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.280 fifteen tall ape looking for this. I'd be shitting a brick. I don't 458 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:12.400 know if it could handle that, to be honest, that's scary. And 459 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.199 these reports, you know, like I said, though uncommon, they're not. 460 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.119 They're uncommon in many areas. But you know, also in Alabama, 461 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.840 there was a story of a twelve foot tall twelve foot tall sasquatch creature and 462 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:35.320 they called it Big Joe. It was seen by four people in Alabama State 463 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.840 Route twenty two in Tallapoosa County, documented by bigfoot researcher Jim Smith. This 464 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.800 is on Fantoms and Monsters website. Took place within a four mile radius around 465 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.559 mile marker one thirty five, and Big Joe, as they called it, 466 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.400 was spotted twice within a four week time and according to Jim, the first 467 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.320 report was submitted by a woman who claimed to have been driving on the night 468 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.519 of Halloween when they spotted the creature. There's a hunting trail that goes into 469 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.079 the woods. When they came upon the curve, they look out the woods 470 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.800 and saw the black bigfoot walking down through the woods. And again, like 471 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.239 they said, just massive, massively tall creature twelve feet and that you know, 472 00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.159 coming from Alabama, that's that's a rarity because in the South they tend 473 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.320 to be a little smaller, you know, less built and a little bit 474 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.920 more swamp ape swamp ape. Like this thing's about double the size of a 475 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.760 swamp ape. So you go back to James Baker's genetic freaks there or you 476 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.719 got you know, is there another you know, potentiality for a different type 477 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.679 of specimen down in the swamps of Alabama. James Baker is still with us. 478 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:46.880 You alive, Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, I could be. 479 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.480 And it matters what the season would be. Yeah, well this was 480 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:58.880 in the fall, you know. Yeah, maybe that's that's down in your 481 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.079 neck of the woods, Henry, Yeah, says that's right next door to 482 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:07.119 us, Mississippi. In Mississippi, do you have any twelve foot Do you 483 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.679 have any large creature sightings in Mississippi, Henry that you know of firsthand, 484 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.880 that you've collected over the years. All I know is that there have been 485 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:21.960 eight foot tall ones here Mississippi, you know, about taller than that now 486 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.280 twelve foot anyway, you know, eight foot tall according to the Field Guide 487 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:31.280 to Primates and Other Mystery Apes, that's considered a neo giant by Coleman and 488 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.480 Hugh and Hall. Still sizable creatures. And again, when you're normally looking 489 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.480 for something six to you know, six to eight feet tall, you think 490 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.880 anything over the eight foot tall is a little bit of an aberration. But 491 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.400 then you start getting into the conversation of are they male or females? You 492 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.480 know, which you know, the sexual dimorphism in different groups. You know, 493 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:59.119 is this one of those situations where the women are bigger than the men 494 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.079 in the in the hierarchy and we just don't know. You know, you 495 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:07.559 look at Patty as the Patterson gim One creature. She's six feet seven feet 496 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:13.519 tall, But is that considered average height? Ver sasquat? You know, 497 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.159 in California you don't get a whole lot of you know, variation. But 498 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.760 so when you talk about plausibility in these reports guys, and we start getting 499 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:25.039 citing reports of something that's seven to eight to ten feet tall on your credibility 500 00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:29.119 scale. When you're first hearing that, where does it go? Where does 501 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:34.280 your meter start ticking off? I think it's how they present it more than 502 00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.000 what the sizing is. If they're giving you, if it's you know, 503 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.840 nine hundred pounds and five feet tall, and you know, darn well, 504 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.320 there's got to be some kind of differential, you know, But if they're 505 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:46.760 telling you, you know, hey, it was about what I feel this 506 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:52.039 and some of the other conversational of like how they feel, like the hands, 507 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.760 the feet ratio and things like that, and I realized not everybody's going 508 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.079 to talk to a scientists. But you know, like if they're telling you 509 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.280 that it's you know, it was eleven feet tall, Okay, what did 510 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.679 you judge that by? And then they give you some gibberish answer. Then 511 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.119 that's when I'm more inclined to say, Okay, you may have you may 512 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:16.599 be overshooting it, you know, not fair enough. Well, I'm gonna 513 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:22.519 go right in along with James. There that a lot of people. You 514 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:24.199 know, First, A, you have to shock of what you're seeing. 515 00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.559 You know, this is not something you see every day. I'm not sure 516 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.800 eventuate you know, but it's not something you see every day. Most people, 517 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:40.440 you know, do you know, form a trauma overseeing something that they 518 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.159 didn't think ever, you know, was supposed to you know, be alive 519 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:51.039 or be around. Generally with that and I've seen this with with my job 520 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.639 is people will exaggerate, you know that, you know, they'll you know, 521 00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.159 when the creature may be you know six, you know, maybe maybe 522 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.079 seven feet tall, they might say, hey, it was way big, 523 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.800 it had to be you know, ten, twelve feet tall. I do 524 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:13.400 take a special consideration if the person's a trained observer, if it's a police 525 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:17.840 officer, if it's a somebody from the military veteran. Those people are trained 526 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:23.800 observers. They're they'll hopefully keep their you know, keep their wits about them 527 00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.920 a little bit more and be able to to establish, okay, this is 528 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.039 what that that size was. But I think for the general person off the 529 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.760 street, that's that's going hiking and you know, not expecting to see something, 530 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:39.800 or they're driving down the road, you know, a dark road in 531 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.360 the middle of the night, you know, kind of like what happened with 532 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.880 my mom, you know, and she sees this thing, you know, 533 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:52.000 all hey, you know what it's it's bigger than her, so it's it's 534 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:57.000 going to be, oh my god, ten feet tall. The one We 535 00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.079 did have one report, and I think you're familiar with this, but I 536 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.000 can't give too many details. This was reported to us. So it's actually 537 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:10.199 right down the road from my house, and the lady, who was a 538 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:16.159 young girl at the time, saw something staring in the window and behind her 539 00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:22.960 house. Its mountain and then it goes into abandoned coal coal mining operation, 540 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.599 which is they don't use it anymore. It's basically kids just you know, 541 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:31.079 going out there and riding ATVs and such. But whatever this was, she 542 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:36.679 said, it was looking at her window, and from the ground to that 543 00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.920 window which was which was in the kitchen, was seven and a half feet 544 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:45.280 tall. So unless this thing was up on its toes, you know, 545 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.199 you know, even if it was up on its toes, it's still pretty 546 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.639 darn big. So with something like that, if you have a fixed object 547 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:59.159 like that, a lot of people use trees, you know. I think, 548 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.679 you know, that's a pretty good reference point. Well from working at 549 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.719 a convenience store. That's why they have that little tape all the way around 550 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.199 the thing that has sizes, so that if you do get robbed or whatever, 551 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.079 you could kind of look at it, kind of judge where the head 552 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:17.159 is. Again an idea on what their height is. Yep. Well, 553 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:22.480 one of the things I was going to add there with what you were saying 554 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.199 so much, I think we have to also delineate what people are experiencing, 555 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.800 and so trace evidence that's left at a certain height may not necessarily mean that's 556 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.920 the height of the creature, that's the area of the reach. And I 557 00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:42.480 think sometimes in the excitement, that confusion may add a little bit of embellishment 558 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:47.159 to the story. I mean, not necessarily always, but you know, 559 00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.599 you see a handprint up thirteen feet all of a sudden, My god, 560 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.039 I say it was thirteen feet tall. Well maybe not. Hold on, 561 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.039 Yeah, it could have just been resting its hands up there. But even 562 00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.440 if that's the case, you're still looking at something like eight to nine feet 563 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.840 tall or more, or with a pretty large reach. It's been a while 564 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.199 since I got since I had to go to the tailor, you know, 565 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.679 to get fitted for for either uniforms or uh, you know, a dress 566 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.159 code or something. But I mean, my arms are well, I'll try 567 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.079 to go back here. I mean, you know, on top of me 568 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.480 being six to four, you know, I can raise that arm up pretty 569 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.800 high. And if I am something that's you know used to you know, 570 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.400 being with the trees. You know, if i'm if I'm going to use 571 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.280 that tree either as a tool to hide or or some people claim that they 572 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.239 that they do climb trees as well, or use the uh use the branches, 573 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.280 you know. I mean, you know, if you have something that's 574 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.559 six six and a half feet tall and they raise that arm, that arm 575 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:51.079 is gonna look really really big, and especially if if it's a sasquatch arm 576 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.480 that's probably three four times the size of mine. You know, in terms 577 00:46:54.519 --> 00:47:00.239 of what so massive appendage? Yeah, yeah, what we're gonna say, 578 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:07.599 back ahead, that wasn't its arm. No, But the a's the thing 579 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.800 you got to look at is is that you know a lot of these situations 580 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.400 where they say, well, it shook my house or whatever. How do 581 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.760 you know that's not a leaping arm? You know, like I'm I'm five 582 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.280 eleven, but when I leap, I'm six four. You know what I 583 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:27.519 mean? You know, I think I might be taller now, but I 584 00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.920 don't know not much. I thought you were about six foot tall there, 585 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.480 I thought you. Well, no, I mean, I mean when I 586 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.119 leap. You know, I've not seen you jump, so I can't. 587 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:45.400 Really White men can't jump. It's more of a reactionary jump. It's usually 588 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:50.599 a backwards motion more than a Last time I see you, I seen you 589 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.960 react to something in terror. You almost cut your leg off with a pruner. 590 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:59.440 So he thought it was a snake, and instead of jumping and moving, 591 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.920 he just takes as a blade and just starts cutting away whatever's nearest. 592 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:07.199 Like if it was a chainsaw, he'd be one one appendage less. But 593 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:14.400 am anyhow, that's neither here nor there. The Pennsylvania, chainsaw dismemberment. 594 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.599 Yeah, aguess these tories, you know, permeate a lot of the Northern 595 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.159 States. Canada. Man, you know, when we go think about the 596 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:28.400 Manitoba footage, Henry Bobby Clark man Otoba footage from the early two thousands. 597 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.559 They estimated that creature at about ten feet tall. I believe, if my 598 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.920 memory serves me correct, that was the footage that was bought by a current 599 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.920 affair. It was hot for a good New York minute and then it was 600 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.719 gone, and just as quick as it it appeared, it didn't have long 601 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.079 last day. It was really bad quality though, was it not, Henry? 602 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.360 Yeah, it was basically a blob squad. I say, yeah, 603 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.559 that was taken from a riverboat, right or some sort of boat, and 604 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.400 it was of a big foot walking along the shoreline. I'm trying to remember 605 00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:01.920 that. But as just as we're sitting here talking, I'm like, well, 606 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.960 you know, that's again, you know, potential evidence. But it 607 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.400 was so poor quality you couldn't tell what it was. But it was enough 608 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:13.719 for a current affair to pay for it. That's not saying much. I 609 00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.039 think they also tried to get al Capone's tomb opened up a vault. I'm 610 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:24.079 sorry, go ahead, Henry, what were you going to say? Bud 611 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:30.239 and Crida Fair also sit in the next edition up there, trying to pull 612 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.079 some information on that because you know, again, I think Bobby Clark also 613 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.760 passed away. Not long then we started talking about the the Bigfoot Curse. 614 00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:45.599 Remember that's another episode we should do the Bigfoot Curse people dying. I'm trying 615 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.360 to. I'm just doing a quick Google search here for the Foot to see 616 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.000 if I could pop it up. Yeah, you know, as sad as, 617 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:58.639 I've been trying to go through and find stories today for the episode, 618 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.639 and it's it's difficult. I had to get into books, guys. I 619 00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:07.519 had to get back into the books and do some search in for this. 620 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.400 There's another good book right here. Bigfoot The True Stories of Apes in America 621 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.400 by Lauren Coleman is one of my top ten. All right, I mean 622 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:24.000 another story, but it there's it's more of a fable, and if you 623 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:30.280 ask any vet, especially anyone that was deployed, you know it's a story. 624 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.519 But they always talked about the Kandahar Giant. Yeah, we did a 625 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:40.960 whole episode on that. Yes, yes, so, but apparently the story 626 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:47.400 kind of comes out all throughout that in Middle East and in parts of Asia 627 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:54.360 particularly, you know, from Afghanistan into Iran Pakistan, where you have these 628 00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:00.920 giants that live in these mountains. It sounds like I said, ask but 629 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:06.239 to them, you know, they they consider them men and a lot of 630 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.960 times they use tools, they may be clothed, they look more human, 631 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.280 although to me it almost sounds like it's more of an alma, you know, 632 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.440 than really anything else. Yeah, you know, and Maine, there's 633 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.079 stories of this, and you guys can go into Lauren Coleman's book that we're 634 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:27.920 looking here at page twenty nine, starts talking about some of the giants in 635 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.920 May the st STrenD Do STrenD Do, which are cannibals. You know, 636 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.679 a lot of these creatures that you know, we consider to be sasquatch are 637 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.800 fall under the cannibal giants a Native American war and though their hair covered and 638 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:47.639 they're considered, like you said, Matt, more giant creatures or Indians people 639 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.360 than they are of a man like beast. And of course that sasquatch. 640 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:57.079 That's yes, the pace and I'm trying to find there was a there's a 641 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:02.079 book I was reading that's not anything having to do with Bigfoot. But it 642 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:07.320 was called When Furr was King forty years in the Hudson Bay Company, and 643 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:15.480 it's written by Henry Moberly and it basically it's a great book for somebody that 644 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:21.400 that's into the backcountry and you know, going into the bush, and especially 645 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.400 from from that time period. But it's funny because there was a there was 646 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:30.280 a part where I guess he was him and somebody else were stranded in an 647 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.000 area and the natives, and I believe it was Cree, had told them 648 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.599 to watch out because there was a cannibal. And now they considered that person 649 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.800 another native, another indigenous person, but they said that there was a cannibal 650 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:50.960 that was in that particular mountain range. They didn't have a contact with it, 651 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.880 but they were told about it. So that was kind of interesting as 652 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:59.239 well. Oh is that when you get the stories of go Ahead, James 653 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:01.920 all under more of a wind to go than a big But I mean, 654 00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:06.800 I always feel like when you talk about some of the Native stories and some 655 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.920 of these stories about don't you know, go to certain areas, they were 656 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.719 more protected towards not getting you know, there was something important there. They 657 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:20.559 didn't want them to bother, you know, like or there was something there 658 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.280 that that could have harmed them as well. Right, But the worst movie 659 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:27.880 I ever saw was The Village. It wasn't made badly, but at the 660 00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.000 end just pissed me off. And I can go into that for an hour, 661 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:36.920 but like, you know, but the fact is is that they created 662 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:42.960 something to keep everybody in lie, keep everybody in the village, keep everybody 663 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.159 whatever. Because a lot of the Native Americans and a lot of the Native 664 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:50.440 tribes realized that if you went too far from the village, other tribes could 665 00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:54.440 killed you. You know, your your, your, your carnivore, your 666 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:59.320 your, your savage was just another tribe. And if you went too far, 667 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:01.679 you know, kind of like you know, if we if you're you 668 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:06.079 know, go from one country to another, you know, by accident, 669 00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:09.039 you know, you could be killed because you don't belong there. And I 670 00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:13.519 think some of these stories are originated the same way. It was, Hey, 671 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.440 don't go past this ridge because that's not our area and it's something safe. 672 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.360 And then a kid are like, well, I'm a big man. 673 00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.760 No, no, no, it's a spirit you know, just don't you 674 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.000 know. The one thing is is that when you look at the wind to 675 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:32.199 go, the wind to go, you know, depending on which tribe and 676 00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:38.719 which uh you know, which uh folklore you listen to, some of them 677 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:49.239 are this tall lanky you know creature and what we're talking about today, especially 678 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:53.920 with some of the signings that they've had, particularly in in northwest Canada, 679 00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:59.400 are these tall lanky bigfoots. So is there a correlation between the wind to 680 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:04.679 go? And maybe they had seen them generations ago and they're using that as 681 00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:09.440 a model to scare the uh, you know, the youth not to stray 682 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.960 away from the tribe. Well, I'll tell you what. We'll get a 683 00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.840 wind to go guy on here and we'll talk about that, get a little 684 00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:22.719 delineation and help educate us not so educated on the native mythos of Sasquatch and 685 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.880 you know which way we should be shame on us. But we'll get an 686 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.679 expert on here to help talk to us through the differences on that on an 687 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:36.000 upcoming program, because I think that'd be fun for everyone, folks. That's 688 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.159 time for tonight, ten o'clock. I maan that hour flew and we were 689 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:43.480 just again glanceing over things. I'd like to thank you all for bearing with 690 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:47.039 us with the little technical difficulties tonight. Internet connection is a little tough, 691 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.719 but we were able to rebound on behalf of Vance. Thank you. Vance 692 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.719 was having, as as you can tell moments, a very difficult time tonight 693 00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.920 getting things together, but he sends his regards to the audience and apologies. 694 00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:04.599 Next week we'll be posting the show here and on our social media. You 695 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:09.400 can find all our information for Sasquatch experience on our social media pages here. 696 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:15.119 We got a little going on Squatch exp on X and Sasquatch Experience on Facebook 697 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:20.440 and Instagram. Of course, you can connect with all of us at Cryptic 698 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:24.880 Wilderness with Matt Arner there at Sean Forker my name everywhere, and Henry May 699 00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:30.119 you can find him on Facebook and OnlyFans. James Baker is just now a 700 00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.559 llowed back on the internet, so you can find him you know, somewhere 701 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:43.480 else offices if you haven't already done so, and for some reason enjoy what 702 00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.840 we do. We have a Patreon for as little as two dollars a month. 703 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:52.079 You can support the show with mostly ad free added some bonus content on 704 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.679 there. This weekend, you got a hot James Baker's Hot takes short little 705 00:56:55.719 --> 00:57:00.960 video of James Baker talking about some uh well, you'd have to become a 706 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.000 subscriber to find out what he's talking about. I think it's worth that in 707 00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.679 itself is worth it. He'll be doing a lot more of those hot takes 708 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:12.039 coming through, and a few more pieces of some bonus material we got common 709 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.960 you can if also, if Patreon is not something that's up your fancy, 710 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.480 we do have another way to support us through the Spreaker. You can go 711 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:24.039 right to spreaker search Sasquatch Experience as a button that says support, and you 712 00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:28.239 can do that first two dollars a month. We like the two dollars. 713 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:31.440 We think it's affordable for everyone. We've got more, more platforms and more 714 00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:35.199 levels you can join, but we try to make this free and fun for 715 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.039 everyone, and those of you that support, we thank you. We can't 716 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:42.599 do it without you. I'm stung everybody. I have no idea why everybody 717 00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:52.159 We're going spreaking break and aside from just talking about aside from just talking about 718 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.320 Bigfoot, we also research subjects. So if you have a sighting or encounter 719 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.840 you'd wish to share with us, info at sasquatch Experience dot com or go 720 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:05.119 to our website Sasquatch Experience dot com and click on report and it'll pull up 721 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:07.079 a form, and of course you can share that with us, and we 722 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:10.719 keep it confidential unless you tell us we can actually talk about it. I 723 00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:15.639 think I burned through all that material and a decent amount of time. Henry, 724 00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.159 take us out with those dulcet tones. You'll be good, Be good. 725 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:29.360 Keep on squatching, folks. We'll see you next week. 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