WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.120 Hey, everybody, this is left Strive. Yes, yes, I know 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:30.000 aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Honist. He then 3 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:34.280 and welcome back to Sasquatch Honist. Thank you so much for clicking play. 4 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.000 It is Wednesday. I hope you're having a great week. We have an 5 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.960 amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, I want to start 6 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:43.119 by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on 7 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.560 the show, shoot me an email. You can get me at Brian at 8 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.880 Paranormal World Productions dot com. Get head over to the website, check it 9 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:53.200 out, become a member there and help support the show. I got to 10 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:59.320 sit down with Shane Church from the Southern Bigfoot Alliance and he shared a ton 11 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.039 of information. He shared a ton of photos about some of the things that 12 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:06.959 they're finding out there and what they're calling Squatch Creek. And this is probably 13 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:08.120 not going to make a whole lot of sense if you guys don't go over 14 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:11.599 to the blog and check out all the photos. I think I've got about 15 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.840 thirty eight or thirty nine photos that you can follow along here as Shane is 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.239 talking and breaking down how they got these casts where this is coming from the 17 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.840 area that they're in. It's some fantastic stuff. I think it's some really 18 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:29.359 cool photos of the cast and the footprints that they're finding. They're finding some 19 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:33.159 really amazing stuff. And I'll let Shane tell you about all of that in 20 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.400 just a second, really quickly. If you haven't already and you want to 21 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.359 pick up a copy of Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth Behind the Legend minu book, 22 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.760 you can head over to Paranormal World Productions dot com. There is a link 23 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.680 right here in the show notes. We have a store button right there at 24 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.200 the top. You can get an autographed copy of the book. We'll send 25 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.799 that out to you. We're meddling those out a couple of times a week, 26 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:53.680 so make sure you pick up your copy today. You can get it 27 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:59.040 on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, anywhere you find to find books. But 28 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.120 enough of that, I know you get are ready to get into it. 29 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.920 Shane's on the line and he's ready to go. All this left for you 30 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:29.159 to do is sit back, relax and enjoy the show hard. I want 31 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.919 to welcome our guests of the show. It is Shane from the Southern Bigfoot 32 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:36.120 Alliance. Welcome to the show man. Hey, thanks Brian, glad to 33 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.759 be here. Man. I always love to talk about this. Let's get 34 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.039 right into it. Let's talk about big book. Let's talk about what got 35 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:45.159 you're interested in the subject to begin with. Okay, my stepdaddy always watched 36 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.400 In Search of and Anything Leonard Nimoy was hosting, I guess at the time, 37 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.520 and I caught that Patty footage. It burned in my brain. And 38 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.520 though I wanted to, I never checked out the books in school because you 39 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.680 can't get chicks when you're checking out Bigfoot books. So you got put on 40 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.039 the back brighter. Although there was that spark, that love, it was 41 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:09.879 there. I guess it got restarted. See Monster Quest was huge. It 42 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:15.520 just rekindled everything I wanted to know. So let's see, I turned about 43 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.759 forty, so I'm forty seven, So for seven years I have been doing 44 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:21.879 this. I was like, I need an adventure. You only live once. 45 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.120 What's it going to be? And that's what my brain landed on. 46 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.919 I have not been disappointed. I can't even believe it. I started off 47 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:34.159 in this group and me and these other fellas within that group we're talking about, 48 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.199 we don't like the way this group is running. He can have that 49 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:40.120 opinion. We branched off in the sixth of the started Southern Big for Alliance. 50 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.599 We've grown over the years. It's awesome. It's a private group. 51 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:49.199 We do that, try to keep all the ogres and trolls, although if 52 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.159 they want to come on and mess around, I'm a photoshop pro, so 53 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:54.439 I get your picture. I don't know what's going to happen, but yeah, 54 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.520 we have a great group. That the camaraderie with our main core guys, 55 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:00.879 it's just amazing. And we're all spread out. I'm a Texas summer 56 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:05.520 in Oklahoma, Arkansas. We're just all spread out. When it's time to 57 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:12.719 converge, we converge. One of the main places we converge on is Squatch 58 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:16.000 Creek. It's a creek, it's in a small town. This is the 59 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:20.160 fruits of Brian Hewlen. He followed up on a lead. If you see 60 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:25.439 this picture in here, this young hunter. She put this picture on a 61 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.920 Morell mushroom site and they were clown in her. Brian just happened to be 62 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.600 part of that site. That group a private messages there and he got out 63 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.399 here, which was pretty hard because I'm to tell you right now, nobody 64 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:42.199 wants to give up their morell mushroom period nobody. This is public hunting land, 65 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.480 so there's that, lots of wildlife, a good sized body of water 66 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.120 that this creek runs into. So Brian gets out there. This is the 67 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:56.319 lead that led us to the Squatch Creek, and this is more southwest Oklahoma, 68 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.360 and that's where we go. We investigate southwest and then of course far 69 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.439 southeast, and we've got multiple things going on right now. It's just I 70 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:06.639 don't even know what to do. It's like I need to quit my job 71 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.920 and just do this. But yeah, this is the picture she sent and 72 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:13.839 it was just like, okay, here it is okay. That could be 73 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:17.319 annything. Someone could take that or something like that or something of that nature. 74 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.800 Who knows. Brian gets out there and that's Brian's that's his boot. 75 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:26.879 That's a left foot print, and there was a right so there was four 76 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:31.079 prints. Stepped off this bridge into the creek and just went around into the 77 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.199 brush. This is what we're dealing with. This is all brand new, 78 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:40.879 never seen tracks. We're just hungry and eager and persistence and you got to 79 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.199 follow up on leads. People. You got to talk to folks and go 80 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:47.000 to rapport and work together, and you find you're in spots like this. 81 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:54.199 So we've got eight inch wide, sixteen inch in linked or like, holy 82 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.560 smokes, I do have the day average temperature up there. I like to 83 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.959 keep the temperature. We'd put the moon phase on there because one of our 84 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.720 guys, Tim, he was like, hey, man, every time we 85 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:11.240 find tracks, it's either near or the night of or something very close to 86 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:13.639 a crescent moon. And I was like, all right, man, we're 87 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.000 gonna put that. We're just gonna put that into our mix. Why not. 88 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:19.439 We don't have a specimen. We're all a step one essentially, we 89 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.360 really are. Some of us just have a little bit more evidence than others, 90 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:28.199 and I think that we should share. And the more minds collectively, 91 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:32.519 the better, I think. So Brian he was in the fencing business at 92 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:38.279 the time, and he used flashing to put a border around these tracks, 93 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.360 to really give us some beefed up borders. This Oklahoma red sand is almost 94 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:46.720 like it's like the suction. It'll suck that plaster. You gotta be real 95 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.360 careful, that's me. So between the second and third step right above, 96 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:56.360 it was a fresh green branch breed. So we're looking at the coincidence. 97 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.680 Right, second and third step, they walk like in a tie rope fashion. 98 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.560 That thing is snapped off. So we measured eight foot ten inches. 99 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:10.319 Does that mean that this sixteen inch track leaving individuals eight foot ten inches. 100 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.600 I don't know. It's just coincidental. It's just something we recorded. So 101 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.920 I love this. This is great because this takes the Huax factor out of 102 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.959 all this number one. This was the number one saying that just gave me 103 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:28.199 chills. So you got this left foot stepping off the bridge. That's the 104 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:32.199 same left foot another step later it's walking on flat ground. You can see 105 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:36.240 there's a little difference in the toes right there, the smaller toes, And 106 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:40.519 that's why I put these lines on here. When that thing stepped off the 107 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:44.160 bridge, it's almost like there was anticipation on that left foot with those toes. 108 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.120 And if you look right here, you can see where the mud squished 109 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:53.360 somewhat. But when it's walking on flat ground and everything's closer, you're really 110 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:57.160 squished up between the toes. That's showing me organic movement. I don't care 111 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.600 what anybody says. It's either Jim hence In or Stan Winston out there with 112 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.759 eight eight hundred pounds puvidic and mechanically move its toes and logistically that's a straight 113 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:11.519 nightmare out there. To me, this is just screams organic. I noticed 114 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.160 this here. So there's this little spot on the hill and it looks like 115 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.480 it could be I don't know, a callous or I don't know, maybe 116 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.759 got injured and it just kept growing over. I don't know, does it 117 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.800 assist? I have no idea. I just know that it's bulging from that 118 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.360 foot. Now just keep that on the back brunner that bulge. So we 119 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:33.679 make it back out there in June. Okay, Kendel and eye we walked 120 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.000 right past this track. We did not see it, not even close. 121 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.279 About forty five minutes or so later, Brian pulls up. What happens in 122 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.840 forty five minutes, The sun's gonna shift a little bit, so timing is 123 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:50.240 lighting on some of these things that you're looking for. And I'll be dan, 124 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.600 Brian, he's what is that? We're like, nah, huh, 125 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:54.960 what is that? So we ended up looking at it and we're like, 126 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.480 man, I don't know, let's cast it. So in a doubt people 127 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.840 cast it just because when you pull it out of the ground and clean it 128 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.279 up, it's like opening a present, I promise. So there was a 129 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.840 waxing crescent moon days prior to you know, us being out there and finding 130 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.679 that print. We did notice that there was a deer prints and there was 131 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.240 three of them. We thought there was something wrong with the toe, but 132 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.559 it was just where a deer like try or a quad step just to getting 133 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.639 over going to drink out of the creek because there's tons of game. And 134 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.039 that's another thing with these tracks on this creek is you don't see them and 135 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:31.720 you don't cast them, then the game is going to destroy them because there's 136 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.960 deer, hogs, you name it, and everything that's out there leaves a 137 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.279 beautiful print in this Oklahoma red sand. Now I live in Texas. I 138 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.279 just let you know, dude, I hang my camping gearing and Oklahoma. 139 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.879 I just knew it is great. So we cleaned it up a little bit, 140 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.679 stuck it in the back of the jeep, and I just loved that 141 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.679 night lighting right there. It really brought it to life even more. We 142 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.159 were just like, oh my god, what are we dealing with here? 143 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.919 This thing's twenty inches, So we're already thinking, okay, it's the sixteen 144 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.799 inch track leaving individual possibly is eight foot ten inches? How tall is this 145 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.840 guy? Just doing the math, I just I don't know. There's a 146 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.799 lot of the ways you can figure that out until we have a specimen to 147 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:15.039 me, I don't know. So this twenty inch but guy, how tall 148 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.080 is he? Is? He gonna be over nine foot? Is it like 149 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.679 the incredible Holk is walking around out there in the woods or what? Because 150 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.759 this right here it actually spooked us for a while, Like this is the 151 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.080 print that kept me up for a while, and it had the same anatomy 152 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.919 too. They have this little splay in between their big toe and the other 153 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.960 four that just tells me they're heavy. I'm thinking that's a good sign that 154 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:39.200 they're pretty heavy. These guys are so January twenty nineteen, Bill Kaufman, 155 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.279 good buddy of ours. He gets out there and he finds this print. 156 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:45.639 He puts his wallet next to it and he takes a picture and he sends 157 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.360 it to all of us Arkansas, Texas, and we just it's calling all 158 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.240 cars situation. We got out there was very cold, this is winter. 159 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:58.000 He mixed weather thirty one degrees very cold, as you can see when Bill 160 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.200 went to cast this and set up right, it was just too cold, 161 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.679 so it broke apart a little bit. This was a very interesting tract, 162 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:09.960 though, because I'm not saying that's what that is. But I've already been 163 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:16.320 looking at the print when it stepped off the bridge. It's anticipating the ground 164 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.080 and the digits on the fluid that are moving, almost as an anticipation. 165 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:26.679 Is this something similar? Is this where this individual stepped off right next to 166 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.879 the creek bank, which this is where Bill cast this is right next to 167 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.879 the water. Is that a flexor tendon it's showing in there. It's not 168 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.279 a stick. I know that for sure, because you'll see here in a 169 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.320 little bit why I know that's not a stick. I just think there's a 170 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:48.399 possibility that could be that tendon that we also share as humans. Guess what 171 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:54.960 Bill has on his track, same callous. It's the same individual coming through 172 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.679 this area almost a year later, the same one. So not now we're 173 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.679 getting like, hey, these guys have a schedule. They're keeping some kind 174 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:09.399 of schedule and they like to pass right through here, and we just couldn't 175 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.519 have been more blessed. I guess I would say with having this area to 176 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.559 look for the track. So here we go. We got this bulge again. 177 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.279 Guess what one or two years before we even started going out there with 178 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:28.360 that track on the far right, a guy cast tracks out there, sixteen 179 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.200 inch tracks. Now, I just have a hard time with the toes. 180 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:31.519 They all broke off, and as you see, it didn't really I don't 181 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.960 know. He might've been bad at puzzles. But this track also has that 182 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:41.000 bulge from one to two years prior, and it's smaller, so that's telling 183 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:45.159 me that whatever's on there, it's probably a callus. I'm sure you walk 184 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:46.799 Barefleet all your life, you're going to have like natural souls, I guess 185 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.519 you could say. So it's smaller, so it's just telling me that it's 186 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.399 growing as this individual's walking its path. Oh and then that guy, his 187 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.759 toe is amazing. And we try to get in touch with this fella because 188 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.480 we really wanted to take some measurements and put it next to the other two 189 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.240 that we have from this big foot. He's probably one of those guys don't 190 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:13.279 want to be bothered with. So on January nineteen, twenty nineteen, we 191 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.480 knew there was definitely three out there, the sixteen and two twenties, because 192 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:24.519 the two twenty split off in different directions. So now not only are we 193 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:31.159 casting a sixteen inch track leaving entity that's by itself, and also a twenty 194 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.879 inch track leaving individuals by himself, but now they're together and with another. 195 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.200 So when we were looking at here, we've got a family unit. We've 196 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.480 got something here. There's something substantial here. Oh wow, And these were 197 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:46.039 the tracks. Oh it was so cold. Okay, So when I first 198 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.399 showed you them tracks in the beginning, how it really punched into the sand. 199 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.279 These aren't punching so far, because man, I'm telling you, when 200 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:58.320 that sand gets that cold, it's damn near impossible to really dig deep into 201 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.399 that. But you can see the raccoing tracks. Oh my god. Okay, 202 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:07.279 So this right here, Okay, So I've been measuring this stride. 203 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.559 It was about five foot in some change until we got here. Until we 204 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.399 got to the edge of the creek, you got a one two. I 205 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.639 call it a stutter step because it's almost like what we do, like well, 206 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.679 stutter step to the jump over a puddle or something of that nature. 207 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.519 We cast both of those. One of them did not make it. It 208 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.679 was like feta cheese. When we pulled it. The next morning, we 209 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:31.039 were actually building little campfires and putting coals on top of the plaster to try 210 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.279 to get it to cure where so we're terrified we're gonna lose everything. So 211 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.679 you got this stutter step and you're like where to go because the creek, 212 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.080 as you can see in that first picture, it's crystal clear, mirrored, 213 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.200 ice cold. The sand in there was undisturbed, and I'm like, he 214 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.240 didn't go in the creek, so let's us cast a nose and Co's the 215 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:54.039 one that we did pull. It broke and I was able to salvage most 216 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.960 of it. Then we got this across the creek in the bank, this 217 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:03.159 big old punt into this super ice cold mud, and Brian and I were 218 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.200 like standing in the creek, We're looking at it. We're like, we 219 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:11.759 have to cast that's going to hold something substantial as that's fantastic. We ended 220 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.720 up using the rest of our plaster on that print right there, and it 221 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.480 had to be cast, so we cast it. I got it back about 222 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.159 a week afterwards, let it really cure up, started cleaning it up, 223 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:28.440 started thinking about it, and it totally made sense after looking at this cast, 224 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.600 because you got this big foot going through the bank and people it's literally 225 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.000 the toes are sliding through the mud as it's coming up, and it's like 226 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.879 gathering it. It's trying. It's almost like it's trying to get its footing 227 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.519 in the mud. Until it does it's able to get up over and we 228 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.200 saw another impression on top, but it was on more harder surface and then 229 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.600 it just dissipated into nothing as it got harder. But if you look at 230 00:15:54.600 --> 00:16:00.279 this, I believe this totally supports that mid tarsel breakhinge theory that everybody talks 231 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.080 about because the initial hit of this bank, this foot, it's only got 232 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:10.039 one little hill print just for a minute, just for a second, and 233 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:14.519 then that hill pops up like you see in that illustration, and the rest 234 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.879 of that slid through the mud as it propelled forward as it moved forward. 235 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.480 And I was like, this totally supports that this is great. Every time 236 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.360 we go out there and we cast these tracks, and it's not every time 237 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.679 we go out there, Man, We've been out there hundreds of times and 238 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.120 found nothing. In fact, we find more of nothing than anything. So 239 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.399 I'm driving to Oklahoma just for this place. I do it all the time. 240 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:44.840 It's worth it. Then April eighteenth comes along waning crescent moon. Here 241 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:48.080 we go with that again. We got tracks out of this day, sixteen 242 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:53.399 inch six inch track lever Okay, at five steps we cast three. We'll 243 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:57.840 see one, two, three, and I dug up the fifth one. 244 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:04.480 I dug up the one because a certain TV personality was already claiming that these 245 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:10.039 were a hoax. So I dug up this fifth track because I'm thinking, 246 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.160 this is my insurance policy. I'm thinking for some reason now I may not 247 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.839 have done it the best citizen science way, because it was on the fly 248 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:19.559 and I was like, I'm getting it, but I dug it up. 249 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:26.119 Anyway. I'm thinking, we leave skin cells all over the place every day. 250 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:32.039 What if that sand acts some type almost lufa like against the bottom of 251 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.559 the food, I think it's gotta be shit something. So I got in 252 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:40.440 touch with a scientist by the name of Darby or Cut who was outstanding, 253 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.319 amazing, the superhero that guy. And he's put that in food containers and 254 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.920 stored in a cool, dark place. So that's what I've been doing for 255 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.640 ever since I brought it home. But he doesn't know about DNA because that's 256 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:57.559 usually with registered animals already. But he also has a fella that we were 257 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:04.400 talking about that sifts through sediment and looks for dnair life, So that might 258 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.680 be that avenue. I don't know. It's still in brainstorming mote. So 259 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.799 this track was awesome. It has this hole in it, and I'm like, 260 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:17.200 what the hell's that? If you look at picture number two, that's 261 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.960 my foot that I cast up in my backyard and I'm made a little muddy 262 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.240 area. I put my foot down in it and then I cast it. 263 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:27.160 When I pulled it and cleaned it, I had this great, big old 264 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:32.920 notch right here in my big toe. I don't have a notch in my 265 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:36.279 toe. That's from my tissue hitting up against the rock when I made that 266 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.039 impression. Exactly what that is? Picture number one, that's exactly what that 267 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:44.839 is. That's a rock or a stick in that creek when it's stepped on 268 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.319 it and it punctured into the foot. I don't know if you guys remember 269 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.440 being like kids on the playground. You got those rocks all over. You 270 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:52.839 sit down talking to your friends, you lift your hands up and all those 271 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.519 rocks embedded in your palm. Same thing. It's just a bigger foot and 272 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:02.119 it can go up deeper and not even hurt, I'm sure. So you 273 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.480 got all these examples of rocks and sticks, and that's just again, that's 274 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:11.759 just screaming organic tissue. Can't get any more obvious than that. So I 275 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.359 ended up molding this because I wanted to make replicas for the guys, which 276 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:21.640 I have, and I've actually given a lot of these replicas away to those 277 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:25.960 I know that are so heavy hearted into the subject matter that I want them 278 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.279 to have this in their arsenal, on their purse, wherever they want to 279 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:32.880 take it, just to put that in their mind, to share it with 280 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:34.480 people. Just what you can look for if you go for something this big. 281 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:40.079 So yeah, I took them molding the track to work. I build 282 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:47.519 helicopter transmissions for Schweizers three hundred c's and triple threes, and I got to 283 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.640 use some of the micrometers to measure this. Everybody's looking at me like I 284 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.000 was crazy, But you know what, now they're all on board. They've 285 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.400 asked me enough questions that now everybody's on board. Oh yeah, talk about 286 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.759 this real quick. That track that has the rock and that was or sticked 287 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.000 into the foot, that fifth toe is there, it's just barely touching. 288 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.599 So my wife, she has this friend named Amy. She's a lovely woman, 289 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.079 she really is. She's very pretty. She came over and she was 290 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.039 talking about how ugly her feet were, and I was like, I got 291 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.319 to see these feet. So she took off her shoe and that is her 292 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:25.759 foot. She's got like these velocirapter pinky toes that are sticking up off the 293 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:29.440 side of her feet. And it got me thinking about this track. I'm 294 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:33.559 like, what if this has something similar to that, and that's maybe why 295 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.680 it barely touched the ground at that point in time. I don't know. 296 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.799 I think it's pretty good theory. Oh yeah, other things we ran into 297 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:48.079 out here. We oftentimes call this place Chimanji instead of squatch creep. So 298 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.759 that's a nalligator track. It's missing a back toe LaaS back feets missed one 299 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.759 of the toes, and we kept hearing the fishermen and they're like, this 300 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:57.519 gator out there. I'm like, all right, man, I'm saying the 301 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:00.960 gator. There's one out there, there's one out there. Cast the trucks, 302 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:06.839 there he is. And then this day, so on May twelfth, 303 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:11.200 at six thirty six am, this is the second shot within that minute. 304 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:14.599 It's a longhorn stopped dead. In this track, she's I'm not going nowhere, 305 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:19.319 and it's because that is an African lion that walked by the camera before 306 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:23.880 the longhorn. This is out there. We're casting these tracks. I'm checking 307 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.960 the camera and I see that. I turned around real quick because that's behind 308 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:32.160 me. So we got sent to the game warden. We're like, this 309 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.079 this guy to be the biggest mountain line we've ever seen. We don't know 310 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:38.440 what this is. It's public hunting ground. There's a small town nearby. 311 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.559 I'm sure they got kids that come out and walking. You know what I'm 312 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:44.759 saying, a lion. So he told us not to post it on social 313 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.759 media, and we didn't for now maybe a couple of years, until Brian 314 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.400 called me one day and his dude, there was a lion spotted on thirty 315 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:53.640 five near Art. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. So 316 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.480 we're like, nope, we're putting this out. We're putting it out. 317 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.759 But I always told people in the town every time we went this. I 318 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.440 showed them this picture and just to make sure that they were mindful that there 319 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.920 could be a big cat out there, and you know what we really want 320 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.079 there farce from like Tiger king Land, like you Goll's sanctuaries out there's no 321 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.720 telling what's running around. To be honest, there's not. But actually posted 322 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:21.759 this on a big Cat's page on Facebook and I got kicked off because they 323 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.559 were telling me that was a golden retriever and we got this big old argument 324 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:29.680 of that it's not a golden retriever. That's a line, sir, but 325 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.400 only all the area of the tracks, Like it's just amazing to see the 326 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:38.319 toe movement, the organic part of these tracks. It's not a wood cutout. 327 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:41.920 People. It's crazy to think that someone could make it, make that 328 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.480 like that. And if you saw these in person, you would just be 329 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.240 like, oh my god, look at the deep that sand is just beautiful. 330 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.559 It just gets the best detail. There's a lot to talk about, 331 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.599 but let's start with this. Are people having sightings in that area? Are 332 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:03.000 you guys correlating this area the tracks and sightings of these creatures, and if 333 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:06.279 so, what are people reporting when they say they're seeing something. Okay. 334 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:10.720 So I had one gentleman I spoke with. He's got six siblings that live 335 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:15.279 in and around this area. He just said that they've all seen stuff, 336 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.720 but one specific was his nephew that was hunting out there. He had two 337 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.680 dogs with him and he was night hunting. I believe he's probably looking for 338 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.359 hogs, I'm sure, and he got really close to one of these things 339 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:32.559 and it just guttural roared at him. His dogs took off, he took 340 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:36.759 off. He's in tears. His uncle had to come pick him up because 341 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.319 he couldn't even. He said he was shaking. He couldn't even. He 342 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:42.680 couldn't even drive. And that's just one instance. And actually me and the 343 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:47.920 fellows were shooting a we're gonna shoot a documentary on this creek. It's just 344 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.759 there's just too much meat to it. And we've actually gotten a hold of 345 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.759 a city hall. They're gonna let us use their veteran center and we're gonna 346 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.799 have a town hall meeting. We're gonna do burgers and do foot and we're 347 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.640 gonna talk. We're gonna bring of our cast, we're gonna talk to all 348 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.279 the people. They're probably gonna be like yeah, I've seen that track for 349 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:10.000 ten years, or yeah, I've seen that just the other day over five 350 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:14.200 miles south or whatever. We're gonna look where, really grass what these people 351 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:17.079 have been dealing with. Because you can go in there with a bigfoot shirt 352 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.119 at a gas station, you're buying I'm just out here looking for big foot. 353 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:23.839 They're out here, They're out here, that's all you get. So 354 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.880 yeah, we are definitely investigating that. We're shooting a dot. We just 355 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:32.079 got a guy that joined our group. His name is Gus Stone. He's 356 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:36.559 an awesome videographer, hell of a drone flyer, FA Bermit regulated. So 357 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.440 we're fixing to dive deep into the creek and we already had them. We've 358 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:45.519 been to other properties outside of the creek. We found a property where a 359 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:51.160 guy had a structure. He's got a natural spring. He's just a hop, 360 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:55.720 skip and a jump from where we cast these tracks. And the thing 361 00:24:55.720 --> 00:25:00.720 I love about his properties has this huge power line situation going on the side. 362 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.000 And man, that power line, it goes all the way to Anadarko 363 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.799 and I don't know if you've ever heard of Anna Darko, but they got 364 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.039 quite a few things going on there. Plus chick of shape. We've got 365 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.079 five hundred acres. We go out there. It's just all length. I 366 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.480 think it's all length, and you can be hidden. You can ride or 367 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.319 brono source down those power lines. It's just covered. You're not going to 368 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.680 see we're digging on that one. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. 369 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:30.319 We'll be right back after these messages. What else are you guys finding 370 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.160 out there? Are you finding obviously you had the one picture of the tree 371 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:37.079 break that you showed in correlation or very near the tracks. Are you finding 372 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.759 other tree breaks, tree structures, because that's one of the things that is 373 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:47.279 always sort of contention for me, is the subjectiveness of all the tree breaks. 374 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.480 Right, there's no secret. I went out on an ext edition back 375 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:53.480 in October of last year up in Radium with Todd Standing. As soon as 376 00:25:53.480 --> 00:26:00.880 we got in this research area, there were hundreds thousands of tree breaks all 377 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:06.799 along the road, the logging road leading back to his base camp. Everywhere 378 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.400 we walked, it didn't matter what direction we went, there were tree brakes 379 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.359 and weird structures and things like that. Are you guys finding some of that 380 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.920 similar stuff out in this area where you guys are finding the tracks. As 381 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.400 far as tree breaks go. We did find one big tpe structure, but 382 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.640 I started thinking, it's public hunting land. Could this be a blind? 383 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.599 Also, I was able to take it apart myself, so I was like, 384 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.720 they didn't really take I'm not saying wheat, but I was able to 385 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:38.920 take it apart. I personally think this is path that they're just using because 386 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:44.359 they're the fastest point between two dots is a straight line. And I'm thinking 387 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.119 because we tracked one in fact, that first spring when Brian and Tim went 388 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.160 out there and cast them tracks, I came out the next day because you 389 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.519 could see that same in print on the road and it's rock hard road. 390 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.279 It gets graded, it's very rock hard, but you can see that right 391 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.480 linked and rubbing where a walk. And then we got to the bend in 392 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:08.799 the road and there was a big hill punch coming out of the woodline. 393 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:14.000 And then we followed that woodline up and we just looked at Okay, something 394 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.640 that's this big could go through here. So it just went on that path 395 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.519 which spread apart, but vaguely we're in the same path. We wound up 396 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.359 with that line was that barb wire fence. We found a spot, a 397 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.799 big spot on this side of the barb wire fence where it could have easily 398 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.440 stepped over and just really disturbed all that dirt. And they lined right up 399 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.759 with going down to the road. So personally, I think they're using it 400 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:44.000 as a passage and we're just lucky enough that they make mistakes and go off 401 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:45.880 in the creek. Let's talk a little bit about that. This is something 402 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.160 I was on a round table just a couple of nights ago on another show. 403 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:55.400 It was me Scott Tompkins from the Bigfoot Mapping Project. Doug Hichek was 404 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.680 on there, Sabilla Irwin was on there. We talked a little bit about 405 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.079 a question that came up was migration. We were just giving our opinions on 406 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:07.240 whether we think sasquatch migrate, because I've talked to hundreds and hundreds of people 407 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.480 and everybody seems to have an opinion on that. You mentioned it early on 408 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.960 when you were talking. You're getting the same track in relatively the same area 409 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.720 a year apart. Do you think these things are hanging in this area all 410 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.279 the time. Do you think they're coming from somewhere else, going to somewhere 411 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.880 else, I know migration in and of itself is a subjective thing. What 412 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:32.039 does migrate mean? Can you migrate ten miles and it be migration or does 413 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.839 it have to be one hundred miles in just this area? How do you 414 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:40.200 guys feel about the migration? Obviously it's subjective and it's your opinion. Do 415 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.920 you think these things migrate and specifically in this area? Do you think these 416 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.400 individuals are moving in and out of this area depending on the weather. I 417 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.400 do. I totally think that's happening. I totally think that they're just they're 418 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.839 moving through. They'll hit the creek to be unseen and continue off. We 419 00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:00.319 have not found beyond that squishy area of the creek because once you get out 420 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.960 that and get to high a little bit higher ground on the graded road, 421 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.519 it's pretty dry. It's very dry. So I think they are. But 422 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:14.359 Brian's no. We all work together, but we don't agree barely ever. 423 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.000 We're always disagreeing, but it works as a collective for us to be like 424 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.640 that, it makes us a very genuine force when looking at this evidence. 425 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.119 But yeah, I do, I think they moved through. Brian thinks they're 426 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:32.400 not exactly right there, but they're close by, so everybody has their own 427 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:37.640 theory. But he also found some tracks or further west, and it was 428 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.599 a dried up there, and it looked like this one had a pigeon toe 429 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.559 on his right foot, and it was walking, and then the gap got 430 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.200 bigger and bigger, so like he went from walking to running. And we 431 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.200 don't know if he was chasing a beaver because it was a little swampy area 432 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.519 there, and man, it is beaver kingdom. He can walk right across 433 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.880 their damn huge So we don't eat a nice, good fast source. Who 434 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.720 knows, But I don't know. Man, We're just going to keep on 435 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.319 putting the pieces together and talk. All you can really do is talk to 436 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.799 locals and hopefully someone opens up and you get a bit of information. You 437 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.119 mentioned it earlier, and you do whatever you're comfortable with. I don't mind 438 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.680 you mentioned the names on here. If you don't want to, that's fine. 439 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.880 You mentioned a TV personality that said that these things were hoaxed. Let's 440 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:23.880 get into that a little bit, because I'd be honest with you. I've 441 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.359 seen a lot of tracks, I've seen a lot of cast from all over 442 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.640 the country. I have cast prints here on my property and my neighbor's property 443 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:37.319 in North Carolina. I saw tracks and radium in the moss and in other 444 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.480 areas there, so I'm pretty familiar. It's one of the things that has 445 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.160 always interested me the most about this phenomenon when I first saw those, when 446 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.880 you sent that pdf over that we've been talking about here that everybody again, 447 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.319 you can go over to Parandorworldproductions dot com, check out the Sasquatch Odyssey blog 448 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.160 at the top of the page, and you can follow along if you haven't 449 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.880 already been doing that with the pictures that Shane's been talking about and referencing. 450 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.119 I saw those pictures and I was immediately blown away by all the things that 451 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:10.440 you've already pointed out. The mud squished between the toes, the detail that 452 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.559 just screams organic to me, it looks like a food stepped in some mud. 453 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.480 So let's go back to whoever this was that talked about it big fake, 454 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.000 and let's talk about why that's a immediately Yeah, you can look at 455 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.160 something and say, ah, look's fake. What were the reasons behind this 456 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.839 were? There's specifics that they were pointing out to say that's why I think 457 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.000 this is fake. Yeah, I stepped in track I did. My shoe 458 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.839 friend ended up in one of maybe two of them, because I didn't know 459 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.599 there was one off the bridge. You gotta understand, you can even watch 460 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.720 the video of that day. I'm like a kid that came downstairs in every 461 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.440 presence for me and I'm gonna go nuts. So we had this guy out 462 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.200 there with us that we were trusting in because we're always looking to fixedp in 463 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.480 the group, and it was awesome. Just that day there happened to be 464 00:31:53.559 --> 00:32:01.720 tracks. And now the accusations are only for that day. So this person 465 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.440 takes I have to one cast the one has the rock in the bottom, 466 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.240 and the other gentleman to the other two. I think it was two. 467 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.920 And we also gave him another one from a prior time because it was this 468 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.319 whole. We auctioned one off for this very lovely friend of ours that was 469 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.640 dying from cancer. It was in the Bigfoot world and she's not wanting to 470 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.559 with us. It was a good thing. So he takes these prints on 471 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.200 and he starts blasting them, which is fine, go for it, man, 472 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.759 share it with everybody. Then there's a certain somebody sounds like Beth Kalachman 473 00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.200 and those are fake. So we have him on our ship, Brian and 474 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.000 I do, and he apologized. We're like, okay, I'll see you 475 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.839 guys out in Texas Jefferson Bigfoot Conference by you guys a beer. I'm like, 476 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.559 cool, let's talk about these tracks seriously, because I want to talk 477 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.359 to him about what I just showed you. So he didn't even even know 478 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.519 any of that. He's just assuming. So he gets there and he tells 479 00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:00.759 that guy, I made those tracks. I jumped with my shoe and then 480 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:06.039 I stepped over five foot and then did it with my other shoe while holding 481 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.160 my cutouts or whatever the hell I'm using. And I was caught because when 482 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:15.279 I pushed it down, my shoeprint went down with it. That's impossible, 483 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.599 first of all, Number one, that's just straight up pustible. Number two, 484 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.839 my shoes weren't therety number three. I took my wife's car. My 485 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.960 wranguler was in the shop. I left my wife's car at the entrance. 486 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:30.000 I rode with Brian down to the cree there's no mud on my car. 487 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:34.960 The guy that was starting to accuse me, he got stuck out there in 488 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.440 the mud. So it said, come on, man, let's think about 489 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.880 the obvious coincidences here. So Biff Klachman tells this guy, these are all 490 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.000 the hopes. Biff takes them all with them home, which I found cocular, 491 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.680 But he takes this guy's evidence. This guy has no more evidence. 492 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.400 And they got lead out there in Jefferson where one was looking through a back 493 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.799 glass window, and it left like that white Whaley stuff that they talk off. 494 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.440 There's different names, and he took that too, came to Texas and 495 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.199 took care by up and left. The right thing to do with for best 496 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:12.079 to give us our evidence back. That would be great. If you want 497 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.800 to accuse me of being a hoaxer giving my stuff, that you at least 498 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.239 do that. That's how that came about. Am I still salted? Yes, 499 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.320 Yes, I am. I can totally understand that. Was there something 500 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.519 about I think I heard you talking to It might have been Jeff over at 501 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.519 Pine Island Research a couple of years back, but mentioned something about Meldrim was 502 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.920 saying something about the size of the tracks. Oh yeah, can we get 503 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.000 into that just a little bit. Sure? So that was like after we 504 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.599 casted, and that was I was hoping to be Bigfoot Conference of twenty eighteen, 505 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.320 because we only had a few tracks, and it wasn't Meldrum, but 506 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.920 it was someone quoting Meldrim saying that there's no way there could be a twenty 507 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.800 inch track, And I'm like, how do you know that? We don't 508 00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.440 even have one. No one's cut off a foot. We don't even know 509 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.400 the anatomy completely it. I think it's imposs but another and then according to 510 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.119 his data set, and I was like, is it done? Is the 511 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.159 set complete? I don't think it is. I really don't. I think 512 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.320 we got long ways ago always talking about we're going down the rabbit hole. 513 00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:15.000 Now we're in a rabbit cave, and that cave's got all rabbit holes all 514 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.400 around it. That's what I think. Jeff's a friend of mine. I've 515 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:20.840 known Jeff for quite a while. I've had him on my show, I've 516 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.119 been on his show. I saw you guys talking about that, and I 517 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:28.119 thought, let me think about that for a second. Twenty inches that's pretty 518 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:32.400 big, So I thought, what's the biggest human foot. A quick cursory 519 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.719 Google search brings up Robert Wadlow, tallest man in the world. I think 520 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:43.000 he's probably the tallest man. That's ever been documented to exist. Eight foot 521 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:49.280 eleven, so almost nine feet tall. His shoe size was a thirty seven 522 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.639 double A, and each one of his feet were over a foot and a 523 00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:00.280 half long, so eighteen inch feet basically, And this is a huge human 524 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.320 being. Of course, there's a whole litany of things, health problems that 525 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.800 come with the issues, and the causation of him to be so big. 526 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.239 He had a hard time walking towards the end of his life and those kind 527 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.719 of things. But yeah, just int of that, I'm thinking, and 528 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.159 that's certainly not the norm, right, I think Shaq's got like a fifteen 529 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.039 inch foot or something like that. It's certainly outside the norm, but it's 530 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:29.480 not in the realm of impossibility to have a sasquatch. That again, we 531 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:35.760 know nothing about walking around in this area in Oklahoma with a twenty inch foot. 532 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.119 I thought that was interesting that somebody would even say, oh, that's 533 00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.440 too big. It couldn't be that big. I don't really know where you 534 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.599 would extrapolate that information from to say, if the average is sixteen to seventeen 535 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:52.280 inches that you're seeing across the country, or how tracks are coming in, 536 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.119 I can see the comparison maybe, but I don't know. I just found 537 00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.880 that interesting. If Robert Wadlow had an eighteen inch foot Sasquatch would be two 538 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.039 inches longer, I think. I think so, Yeah, especially sister, 539 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.599 like much wider. Yeah, some of the ones that you were doing, 540 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.000 you guys are casting, some of them are like eight inches plus wide. 541 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.000 Oh yeah, yep. And then one of our guys there he casts some 542 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.760 on the Lone Star Trail in Texas. At two thirty in the morning. 543 00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.360 They graded and raped forgot how much of the Lone Star Trail in a certain 544 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.079 area, and they just let it be and then they checked it periodically, 545 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.119 and Dave, they went out there one time, and there were some little 546 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.000 ones, man, some little in fact, I've got a replica over there, 547 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.719 some little guys. And you're like, oh, I could be a 548 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.840 kid. But then you start, after looking at these big tracks, Now 549 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.119 I take all those principles and I put them on these little ones. You 550 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:45.039 could see where the mud moved, where the mid tarsal hinge would be on 551 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.679 these little ones. It's just and then some of the ways the little toes 552 00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.760 were a little bit gnarled to an angle. It totally just reminded me of 553 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.559 what we're seeing in Oklahoma. So I just I love when people cast tracks 554 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.119 and share. I think we should be doing that a lot more often and 555 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.679 just putting some pieces together. I don't know about you. When I first 556 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.639 started doing this, I was like, oh man, I'm different. I'm 557 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.039 going to find out something different. No you're not. You're not. Okay. 558 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.880 You got to work with everybody, and as a collective, everybody can 559 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.360 find out something different. Very wise words, my friend. Let's talk a 560 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:16.679 little bit about the group. I know you guys have a Facebook group. 561 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.679 Let's talk about your YouTube channel. Let's talk about what you guys have coming 562 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.440 up where people can find you, where they can find your stuff. Awesome. 563 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.760 So yeah, you get on Facebook and I look at Southern Bigfoot Alliance. 564 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.679 That's us. Come on in. We'll let you in as long as 565 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.840 you're not like a crazy, nazy baby killer or something where we're going to 566 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.880 let you in. It's mainly just to hang out cryptoholics. We've had Cliff 567 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:45.079 on it, and that's just to have fun and dissect pictures, have a 568 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:51.199 guest on just really we're really just grounded dudes, and I just absolutely love 569 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.320 all these guys and we welcome if you're going to be a good person and 570 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.119 you want to come in, and you're coming because we need all the good 571 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.639 folks out there that are level headed and good natured and I got to be 572 00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.159 truthful. Yeah, definitely join us there. Look for Cryptoholics. Scryptoholics is 573 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.039 on Facebook. I'm not going to tell you the schedule because we don't have 574 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.679 We just don't have. We don't have a schedule run scripted. We make 575 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.760 mistakes are welcome and you're welcome to watch and comment. Okay, So what 576 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.639 we do have coming up is Brian and Aret are going to speak in Tallahena 577 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.320 this coming spring. We're going to do our presentation we did in Ho Nubby 578 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.079 last October. That's the first time they had actually two speakers at once. 579 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:34.280 We play off for one another. He's like my brother, man, but 580 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.239 I've never gotten into the big fight. I've never met Brian here. It's 581 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:38.880 my dude, man, and we're going to do that again. I been 582 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.079 in Tallahena. It's gonna be a blast. And I don't know about you, 583 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.599 but many these conferences are awesome to talk to other people. Yeah, 584 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.079 you want to show me your picture, I want to see it. I 585 00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.159 do is it blurs. Let's look at it this, let me look at 586 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.679 it anyway. Okay, let's look at it because I've seen some pictures that 587 00:39:54.920 --> 00:40:00.440 have had just made me just stupefied by some of these people. Wow, 588 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.360 and they're like, why don't you share it now? Then? But you 589 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.119 get it, you know why they won't share all the ridicule, all the 590 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.320 haters. But yeah, we'll be doing that, and then of course we're 591 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.480 going to do the Creek took out down Hall meeting. That's going to be 592 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.880 fine. But that's all we have, plus the Creek documentary, and then 593 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.039 we're shooting one in the Kai Megis too simultaneously. Oh so, Brian and 594 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.079 Guss last weekend they went and talked to a gentleman for was it three three 595 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.719 and a half hours. I felt so bad for this guy. This was 596 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.400 a deathbed confession. He's terminal. I think he's got a nephew, said, 597 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:43.199 and he wanted to share growing up with his family and Bigfoot on their 598 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.760 property and it was pretty amazing. So that's going in our documentary. We're 599 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.039 supposed to be going after his property real soon because unfortunate, but he wants 600 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.400 to take us out there and show us. You guys go check out the 601 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.079 Southern Bigfoot Alliance. I'll link to all that stuff in the show notes. 602 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:00.760 Shane, have had a blast. Good to you, man, Yeah, 603 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:01.719 no, it's great to It's great to talk to you. Brian. Awesome 604 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.920 man, Like I said, like meeting new great people. So keep a 605 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:15.320 touch me. They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. 606 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:45.840 I don't want to be. We're all lopping. Try this job that 607 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:52.159 chart. Everything came right back, right back, Joy for me, Joy 608 00:41:52.320 --> 00:42:22.400 staying right, come in right aways, side and stills still start said stars 609 00:42:23.559 --> 00:43:09.119 stands side still still Sames still in state, passist us as things fast USS instances