1 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,359 It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to the Game 2 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:32,880 Mesticides podcast. This is the podcast where we decide everything about the world of 3 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,359 games so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host Jeff Grubb, 4 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:40,000 and with me is yell yah yah. I'm mouse single and ready to 5 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:44,439 mouse mingle. It's Mike Minatti. In today's episode, the Leaderboard respectors have 6 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:51,840 logged on Mount Rushmore of Leaderboard. Games Stand Fantasy critic huh the leader It's 7 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,439 all leaderboards all the way down. That's the only thing I'm thinking about this 8 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:57,479 week, even mostly because they won't give it to me. Mike, how 9 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,560 are you doing? I'll give it to you, buddy. It's gonna be 10 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:10,120 one of those episodes. I'm alright, skyrissed upstill so, but which it 11 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:12,719 turns It turns out I was just a headache, really right? Yeah. 12 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:19,200 A sense of domination like that you could take over anything. That's what it 13 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,120 seems. I think I always have that. Maybe I'll trust to you if 14 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:25,519 you think it seems more out of control than the normal, you know what, 15 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:29,120 it's all the same. Just I think the level of inhibition, which 16 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,959 is almost always zero, fully is at zero. Now it's a negative that 17 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,400 we're over sharing to an alarming degree in reverse, and we are all on 18 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:45,120 mouse mingle dot com of course. Yeah, how is it going otherwise? 19 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:47,799 You gotta you got, like anything happened in your life that we should know 20 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:49,519 about that you do want to overshare about beyond the mouse mingle. No, 21 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,640 I just want to stay, don't play video games. That's what I want 22 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,480 to do. I like that. I don't know. I want to like 23 00:01:56,519 --> 00:01:59,400 take some time off soon, catch up on like not like crazy, Like 24 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,879 can I take a couple of days I can, like you know, some 25 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:07,200 places, like really catch up about Fantasy fourteen and other things. Maybe actually 26 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:09,560 take a real vacation at some point. That might be nice now that like, 27 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,719 you know, the super hotness is cooling down a little. Yeah, 28 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:16,840 there's some places, maybe go to some some Guardians games almost said Indians, 29 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,240 excuse me please, I'm already getting canceled over Liquid Death not that one too. 30 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,400 That and Paprika, I'm full of real spicy takes that anger people. 31 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Literal spicy takes. Yeah, well little spice takes, I suppose, Yeah, 32 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:32,680 yeah spicy, yeah, yeah, I wish Paprik goes spicy would actually 33 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,120 taste something, It would actually taste something. Yeah, you agree. I 34 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,120 know you're afraid to pipe up because you know I'm getting so much, but 35 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:43,840 I know you agree with me. Yeah, and I think I echoed everything 36 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:46,199 you said. I'm like, but hey, he's going to get the heat. 37 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:49,080 I'll let him take it. Yeah, that's fair. I understand. 38 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,080 I respect it. Yeah for sure. Yeah, I'm I'm kind of the 39 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,080 same way over here where I am wishing I could play even more video games 40 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,120 than I am. I'm I am playing a lot of nes what's called the 41 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:04,960 Remix and yes, Nintendo World Championship, and we'll talk about that here at 42 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,719 the end of the show today. We'll also talk a little bit about it, 43 00:03:07,719 --> 00:03:09,280 I guess in the new Yeah, we'll talk about the news and lack 44 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,919 of leader boards there. But yeah, it's it's it's been good. I'm 45 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,479 just kind of looking forward maybe to to the weekend. It's been. Last 46 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:20,280 weekend was like, oh, the first real weekend I had a long time, 47 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,960 and then I just basically spent it all weekend like doing stuff around the 48 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,520 house. So I want one where I can like sit down, excuse me, 49 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,680 sit down for like several hours in a row. That would be cool, 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,360 right, I think I said that, like, this week's been tiring 51 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,000 because you know, last weekend I was in La and yeah, you know 52 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,560 it was thought like it was some arduous ardress thing, but it's traveling. 53 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:39,960 Traveling always tires me. Yet it does, guys suck to come back home 54 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,599 on a Sunday, right, kind of messes up the schedule a bit. 55 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:46,759 Yeah, That's why it really was rough for me coming back from Michigan on 56 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:52,520 that Sunday night at like midnight, twelve thirty and having to work the next 57 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,120 day and I'm like, I'm I'm just I'm so run down, I'm basically 58 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:58,800 sick. I'm just going to take the day off. Well let's you know, 59 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:00,080 let's just let's get into it. Thanks for joining us, everybody, 60 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,520 and give us a good rating. Wherever you are listening, hit that like 61 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,520 button on YouTube please it helps people find the show. If you want to 62 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,439 ask the question, you could drop a super chatter in the show here on 63 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,199 YouTube. 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All right, 78 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:05,199 Mike Big Topics, let's get into it. Let's start with anys remix. 79 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Well, it came out this week. The reviews have been mostly middling, 80 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:15,879 and it comes down to a couple of things. Some people say the 81 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,319 content is pretty slight, which I think is probably gonna be fair in the 82 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,600 long run, although I'm kind of in the middle of it right now and 83 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:27,279 join it a great deal. And then a lack of online features, specifically 84 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,360 leaderboards, but also like ghost data things like that or selectable ghost data. 85 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:34,600 Basically being able to play this game with your friends online in any way is 86 00:05:34,759 --> 00:05:42,240 completely absent, and it feels like that goes against like what they were marketing 87 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:44,759 the game as. But in the end it's like they're like, no, 88 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,000 it's you know, there's gonna be a World championship every week, We're gonna 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,680 select five events. There's gonna be a leaderboard for that, and that's and 90 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:55,199 the rest of the game is practice basically, it's strange. And then there's 91 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:58,519 a party mode of course, if you want to play locally. This is 92 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:03,079 this has been Nintendo this generation where they are very much into the idea of 93 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:10,160 taking these these concepts and focusing them first as a local multiplayer games, maybe 94 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:14,000 primarily for families, and I kind of at a part of me is like 95 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,399 I can't fault them before going after the audience that really brought them here, 96 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,720 Like that's you know, dance with the one that brought you that's who they 97 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:23,560 are going after every time, with every single one of these decisions, and 98 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:27,360 yet this just feels like a huge oversight. How are you feeling after getting 99 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,120 a little bit of time with the game, Yeah, I mean it's it's 100 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,160 it is weird on this one. You got to talk about this. It's 101 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,839 one of thing with Mario Party that's going to appeal to like, you know, 102 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:36,600 family units that are you know, inherently have multiple people in the house. 103 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,720 Mario sporting games, right, even those are like going to be like 104 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,040 for that audience to a certain degree. Right, a collection of like old 105 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 an yes games repackaged in a more competitive way is and then I'll say it 106 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,839 like the most boomer game Nintendo has ever made, and it is specifically going 107 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,600 to speak to a very savvy audience who's kind of you know, ready to 108 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,319 play games online. And I think a lot of people that they want to 109 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,920 play these games with do not live with them, maybe aren't even in the 110 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:09,759 same states as them. So it is bizarre because it is really a game 111 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:13,360 that seemed to tailor made for a leader board feature, and it would not 112 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:17,000 be a difficult thing to make, and I really am missing that kind of 113 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,399 you know, feedback on it. I'm having fun doing these challenges. I 114 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:24,399 think the kind of the presentation of it's a lot of fun. I like 115 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:27,720 how they kind of make it feel like it is this competition or like even 116 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,360 the sound effects and all that stuff, but it's kind of weird, Like 117 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,240 I get a time and aside from the game telling me if I got like 118 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:34,560 an S, which is basically which is like a goal, and it's fun 119 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,600 to get an S. But after that, like, I don't have any 120 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,439 feedback in terms of like, you know, oh, like how much better 121 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,759 can I do? I guess I gotta go online and see how people are 122 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:48,959 doing or like literally it's what I've done, text my friends to see what 123 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:53,639 their time is in a challenge to see if I need to beat it or 124 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,199 not. Like I'll do that because I think this stuff is fun. But 125 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:00,639 it's just wild that it's not built into this experience. Yeah, feedback is 126 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,360 definitely something I've really been noticing, where, you know, I'm trying to 127 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,600 figure out a challenge and I am like, okay, am I on the 128 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,000 right track. I'm getting like A A plus A plus plus, which is 129 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,240 like all the ranks before S, and I'm like I'm like, right there, 130 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,920 am I missing something and not being able to go and see someone's ghost 131 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:22,319 data to figure out like, Okay, how did the number one player do 132 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:24,480 it? So you're you're kind of like at a disadvantage there. The game 133 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:28,079 is not like super searchable yet because it just came out. There's not a 134 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:31,000 lot of resources for it, so searching for it, like I like search 135 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,200 some of these things on Twitter, like, so the names of some of 136 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,480 the challenges, no one's really posting about them yet. So part of that's 137 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,639 going to be. This is for a boom er audience, and they're they're 138 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,200 just playing the game and they're not really tweeting about It's not like it's some 139 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,240 huge seller. It's not going to be. But it's like it just feels 140 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,799 like you are so on an island on your own and that how how like 141 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,120 far can you really push yourself in that situation? It's it's gonda like and 142 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:58,799 I think the whole idea of the game is to push yourself. And I've 143 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,039 been in scenarios here where I am trying to get the S rank and some 144 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:05,759 of those S ranks are difficult, or at least they were they would require 145 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,159 some like probing of the level to figure out exactly what you need to be 146 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,039 doing to accomplish that. And that is fun, like you said, to 147 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,519 a point, but after that year, You're right, you're just kind of 148 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,120 all on your own. I've been pretty frustrated by that, right, And 149 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,120 like because of Nintendo, I bet fans are going to come together and make 150 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,360 some kind of resource for this. That is going to be nice, right, 151 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:28,320 you know, I was thinking about like these things, all these levels 152 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,559 could just be you know, different things on speed run dot com. Like 153 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,840 we could just be submitting our videos to speed run dot com and at certain 154 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,679 points like yeah, we could, but like how much can that really support? 155 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,120 Like how many like people are going to be able to watch those videos 156 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,960 to confirm them. It sounds like a lot of work, but I mean 157 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,399 it's better than nothing. I kind of hope it gets to that point. 158 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,679 And it's like, you know, I think the really short challenges are actually 159 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,639 kind of fun. Ones like just get the sore and zada there is going 160 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,519 to just be an optimal obvious like first place straight to it, Like everyone's 161 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 going to be thousands of people tie for first place at some point on those 162 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,080 But it's fun but yeah, I mean that's the thing though, Jeff, 163 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:07,919 like, I am really enjoying it, oh like you and I've played for 164 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:11,039 like an hour. I do think it's really fun. I like going through 165 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:13,440 these little challenges. Even that, like the World Championship mode, I think 166 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,559 is a good idea. I do like that format. It seems to like 167 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,519 it should be one feature instead of the main one of the game. I 168 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:24,799 also, really it's silly, but I really liked how I was able to 169 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:26,759 pick my favorite Nis game. And while you know there's only so many games 170 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:31,440 here, when you pick your favorite ANYS game, it is like all of 171 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,879 them as far as I do now. Yeah, Like I was like, 172 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:35,360 I bet Mike Tyson's punch Out won't be on. There will just be punch 173 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Out with Mister Dreamer. It's like, no Mike Tyson's punch Outs right there. 174 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Yeah, So, like you know, I was like, oh cool, 175 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:43,159 I gut actually picked Megan Man three not just my favorite asking but my 176 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,679 favorite game. And I don't know like why that mattered to me or felt 177 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,080 cool, but it did. Did you pick Mike Tyson's punch Out as your 178 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,639 favorite NYS I did, Yeah, I did. I picked Mike Tyson's punch 179 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:54,600 Out, mostly because I'm like, maybe they'll see this and they'll put punch 180 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,600 Out in this game in an update, but also because I like it. 181 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,000 But no, I think you're getting into a point that I'm definitely a Hue 182 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,720 fan of. The presentation is fantastic. It's really really good. I think 183 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:09,200 they are doing a good job of capturing with the Nintendo World Championships, like 184 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,799 art style looked like back in the nineteen nineties. I think it's when it 185 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:16,120 happened. It feels like I'm watching the end of the Wizard. The Wizard. 186 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:20,240 Yeah, I almost wish they would find a way to bring those but 187 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,440 like running scoreboard guys that would have like the line behind them. I wish 188 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,879 they had that in the game a little bit. That's always like running through 189 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:28,639 my head. But whatever, it's pretty close to that, and it definitely 190 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:33,799 feels like it could be like right next to all of those assets. And 191 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,960 I think the music's good in terms of like being in the menus, selecting 192 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 the stuff from the men us is good when you're actually playing the level. 193 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,360 There's the crowd sound effect that I thought was very cool, like it worked 194 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,039 on me. I like the pins It's kind of like the achievements. I 195 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,360 like, you know, the player icons that you can unlock more. I 196 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,279 unlocked the Ridley one, and I like, yeah, Ridley eight bit Ridley. 197 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:54,200 It's such just a goofy look and I love it. Yeah. And 198 00:11:54,440 --> 00:12:00,559 then it like really does just hone in on these very specific moments and these 199 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,559 levels, and they know what they're doing. They're picking all the moments I 200 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,159 would have picked from like Super Mario Brothers. You know, yes, hitting 201 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,720 the blocks in one two, running through all one to one, getting sure, 202 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:13,879 getting thirty coins and having to kind of go across two levels to do 203 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,879 that. Things like that. It's like and there's a good variety of the 204 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,080 three second ones, and there's a good variety of Okay, this one's gonna 205 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 be thirty seconds, and then you get an occasional one that's like a minute 206 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,080 long, and I think they do a really good job at that. And 207 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,120 then when you do find one of these ones that is you know, three 208 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,200 four, five seconds, and you are like, just okay, I keep 209 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,000 getting no matter what I do, I just shaved off two tenths of a 210 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:39,960 second and I'm still in a plus plus. What do I have to do 211 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,080 to get an S and you start like fueling the difference between a tenth of 212 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,559 a second because it just causes this time dilation of you are so locked in 213 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:52,799 that you feel every movement finally that your fingers are doing. Like a lot 214 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:54,919 of times I'll just kind of be like I'm sitting back playing a game whatever. 215 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,919 Here. You really got to get in there and feel every little movement 216 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:03,440 that you're making once you are locked in, and the game just completely facilitates 217 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,879 that. It's really good at it. And sometimes it's like you have to 218 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:07,639 get a little creative. Like there's one like just kill all the octo rocks 219 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,559 on the screen in Zoda one and like to get an S you kind of 220 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,480 have to like wait for like a moment where two octo rocks overlapping you can 221 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 get it like two of them with one sort strike. Things like that. 222 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,440 It's fun, it's neat. How did you discover that? Did you discover 223 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,600 that organically? Yes? Yes? Okay, so that's cool. That's oppressive 224 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:28,200 because the way I discovered it was I did go into the online mode, 225 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,799 which is you fighting against other people's ghosts, and I went to the hard 226 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:35,639 one and I was watching the replay I'm like, how did this guy do 227 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 it in three seconds flat? And I was able to watch the replay and 228 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:41,720 see that he got S rank by hitting the one on the left, hitting 229 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:45,519 the top one, and having the beam hit the second one and then turn 230 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,240 to the right and immediately hit that one, and I'm like, okay, 231 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:50,000 great, now I'll go into the because I think that was also part of 232 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,639 the World Championship lineup this week, and I'm like, okay, I'll go 233 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,039 do it there, and I set up perfect time there basically, so I 234 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,279 also do like and it's a little thing, but I'm glad that when I 235 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,200 do these challenges in the World Championship Mode, if I then like go to 236 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,279 do them in the main game, it does remember what the time is there? 237 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:09,360 Yes exactly, that's already did that one, even if you haven't unlocked 238 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,679 it, because like, uh, that's with that one. I was like, 239 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,559 I haven't unlocked that yet, and it's weird. I could see it 240 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,759 there. It's not selectable because I gotta beat this first level first. I 241 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:18,639 did that, and it's like okay, no, yeah, you could do 242 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:20,720 it if you want, but you already have your S rank. Care I'm 243 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:28,440 very cool. The World Championship mode specifically is another strange one because that isolation 244 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,519 of doing the five challenges and having no idea where you're going to be on 245 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:37,320 the leaderboard. There is no leaderboard yet. The leaderboard will happen on Monday. 246 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:43,440 Apparently that is very strange. So I'm liked. I mean, part 247 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,360 of me is like, you know, okay, I got I set the 248 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,279 times that feel pretty good. I guess whatever happens will happen. But on 249 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Monday, I'm probably gonna get it. It's like, oh, I thought 250 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:56,480 I did really good. I actually it turns out I didn't do good. 251 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:58,679 A lot of people did perfect on all five levels. And then like it's 252 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,440 done, and it's done, and then what is the leaderboard going to show 253 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,879 me. It's gonna show me my global spot and it's gonna show me that 254 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,440 my birth year ranking and that's it. So I'm not even gonna see where 255 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,440 my friends were on that list. So of course we'll be able to share, 256 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:16,200 but but there's gonna be a lot more people playing then I'm gonna be 257 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:22,120 sharing with. It's it's bizarre, But in the moment when I'm playing the 258 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:26,120 game, I'm just like the part there was occasional occasions where I was like, 259 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,399 this is almost a religious experience where I'm like getting so in touch with 260 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,840 this five second level that I am like seeing through the matrix and I'm connected 261 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,600 with the game one on one, and I could like was doing tricks to 262 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:41,320 like sort of like not be thinking that was like trying to put like I 263 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,759 was like imagining a baseball game happening in the back of my head, and 264 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:46,840 so I wouldn't like actively be engaging with what's happening. I'm just like letting 265 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,159 my body react. And I started playing even better. So there's just so 266 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:54,320 much cool stuff the game is doing. It feels tailor made for me, 267 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,960 which makes it that much more frustrating that the leaderboards aren't there right because I'm 268 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,919 I mean, I really am enjoying it, and a lot of ways is 269 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:06,600 the game exactly what I wanted. It's just missing this very key and simple 270 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,919 feature. It's so simple, like I don't really there to going to point 271 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:12,120 me. He's like, please just patch it in or something, put it 272 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,320 there. I'm just not expecting it. Not expecting it, but I'm not 273 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,320 I'm not trying to get my hopes up. Yeap, it would be great. 274 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:25,960 Yeah, I so I am feeling very positive about what I am playing. 275 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,440 And then and then in the same breath, I would likely say it's 276 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:34,279 very specifically made for us people who did really grow up on these games, 277 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:40,279 Like I am one just bringing in the way I've been playing Super Mario Brothers 278 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,039 my entire life into this game and getting to like use that in this stuff. 279 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:48,000 Uh. For a lot of other people, I think it is going 280 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:51,039 to feel slight. It is going to feel like, Okay, you know, 281 00:16:51,039 --> 00:16:52,200 I'm just trying to go get an A I guess on some of these 282 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,080 and then I'll go to the next one and I'll get an A or be 283 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:56,080 on that whatever, go the next one. If you're gonna play it that 284 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,639 way, there's not going to be a lot here for you, especially because 285 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:07,880 I don't see the appeal of the Global Leaderboard World Championship Challenge each week if 286 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,119 that's how you're playing. So sure, Yeah, it's hard to recommend to 287 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:15,440 most people, even though it feels like a perfect game for me up until 288 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,240 the Leaderboard thing. Yeah, I mean I would wreck you if you are 289 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:19,680 like an as head, I would recommend it. Still, I think it's 290 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,839 just I think those people a lot of them, right, Yeah, Like 291 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,279 if you're on the fence, it's it's hard to like push you over on 292 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,400 that side of actually getting it all right. After years of working on Hitman 293 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,880 project, doub seven Leads says, working on a new James, working on 294 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,759 the James Bond game feels organic because it's so close to our DNA that it 295 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,119 just feels seamless. Basically, they just kind of gone to say they'd like 296 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,759 they're having a lot of fun. They are taking a lot of what they 297 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:49,279 learned from from Hitman and applying it to James Bond. Does that encourage you 298 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:52,400 because it does me when I hear them, Like, I'm glad that they 299 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,440 are taking the formula and adapting it for James Bond and not trying to make 300 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,160 a whole new game necessary, Right yeah, I'm gla saying like, yeah, 301 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,279 it really fits our DNA or not. Like we you know, went 302 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:04,880 outside of our wheelhouse like ll right, Like I mean people go outside the 303 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:10,039 whelouse works. So I was talking today with Sean about High Bye Rush, 304 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:12,680 great example of going out your wheel house in it working. But I think 305 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:15,440 part of sometimes you get a red fall. Sometimes you get a red fall, 306 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:21,559 Yeah, sometimes and I think being able to recognize where they are, 307 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:23,880 like the experts at something, and then they're applying that to James Bond. 308 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,680 I think that is going to be a very hugely beneficial to this game in 309 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,599 the end, because we can all kind of see how that makes sense. 310 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,839 And then of course there's some question marks about exactly what kind of game it's 311 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:37,359 going to be, exactly how it's going to work. But I'm glad they're 312 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,119 like, no, we pick this ip because we think it makes sense, 313 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,079 and now that we're making it, it's working out exactly like that. Do 314 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:48,160 you think this is a game that, like we'll have online multiplayer or something 315 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,519 like that, just because of the legacy of Double O seven, or do 316 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:53,240 you think they're just like their own little game? Okay, yeah, I 317 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,039 mean I think you make your own little game like almost now more than ever, 318 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,680 it's like more than other right doing that. I mean, look, 319 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:03,240 there's the legacy of Golden Eye, and then there were a bunch of other 320 00:19:03,319 --> 00:19:06,480 James Bond games that never recaptured that anyway, So I think you can just 321 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:10,640 move on from that. It's okay, yeah, people get it. I 322 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,880 do wonder about I forget They already said that, like, it's not going 323 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,240 to be like based off any of the specific James Bonds. But I do 324 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,559 wonder like what the ViBe's gonna because I kind of hope it is like almost 325 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:25,440 you know, more like wacky's gadget James Bond as opposed to like, you 326 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,839 know, grittier real agent stuff, you know. And they have that opportunity 327 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,359 to do that because they are literally in the middle of James Bond's right now, 328 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,359 Like the idea of who James Bond is is kind of more up in 329 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,000 the air and up to you to decide than ever at the moment. Also, 330 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:44,119 I think, you know, hit Man definitely can get very wacky and 331 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,799 silly while also playing it straight, and that makes it better. I think 332 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,799 if they kind of go for the same tone here and it is you know, 333 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,920 Roger Moore style h James Bond, Jami A Moon level. Yeah, 334 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,519 and then there's like he's taking on the Moon very seriously, but we all 335 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:04,519 see it and he's doing wacky stuff. To me, that sounds ideal. 336 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,160 Yeah, And I think you're right. I think the thing that's least likely 337 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:12,759 is trying to go for the Daniel Craig style. It feels like that that's 338 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,279 you know, it's played out just enough that and you're you know, you're 339 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:18,920 coming off a bunch of those movies. They're going to try something new. 340 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,079 Like you said, we're in between those. That feels like catching a train 341 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,200 that has come by long ago and there's no point to chase that anymore. 342 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,440 Isn't it interesting how they're kind of taking their time here recasting Bond in my 343 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:34,319 mind, when like when the Pierce Brass and the movies were done, like 344 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:40,160 the Daniel Craig, things started moving very quickly. Yeah, right, and 345 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,839 that felt the same. I bet they wish they had someone picked already. 346 00:20:42,839 --> 00:20:47,559 But yeah, I wonder if it's the kind of thing where enough actors are 347 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:48,839 at a point where they're like, I don't know if I want to commit 348 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:52,640 to all those movies these days, but I don't know, or maybe they 349 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,559 just feel like they can't find the right one. I'm not sure. Maybe 350 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:57,839 they decided to let it breathe a little bit. I do not. I 351 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:03,759 don't. I didn't see like the last couple of those Daniel craigondo because I'm 352 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:07,200 not a big bond guy. Like a couple of them fine, but not 353 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:11,039 really my thing. But the games are often very fun. In fact, 354 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,240 the games usually do more for me than the movie. So I'm very much 355 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:17,359 looking forward to this, and you know I will afford to it just because 356 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,319 it is the Hitman people that those games are incredible. Real quick, before 357 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,440 we go to this other story I've written down, there were a lot of 358 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,880 people this week that were freaking out once again about Gears of War coming to 359 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,759 PlayStation because of a job listing. Did you see this? No, I 360 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:36,000 didn't see this. So the job listings, there's you know, it's the 361 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,680 typical stuff and it's like preferred qualifications and this is a bullet pointed list and 362 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,799 it's you know, interest in multiplayer gaming, experience with unreal engine. Excuse 363 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:48,920 me, had a cough. It gets down to experience with Xbox Live, 364 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:55,000 PSN, Steam or other gaming platforms. And people are reading that like it's 365 00:21:55,039 --> 00:22:00,480 coming to PlayStation, it's definitely coming to PlayStation, and well it might be 366 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,960 coming to PlayStation. That feels like a big extrapolation from that sentence because what 367 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,759 they're saying is we want someone who has experienced with online platforms, right, 368 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,759 and it doesn't matter what online platforms it is. We just need someone who 369 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,480 knows that shit because they can apply that to whatever wherever the game ends up 370 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,680 now. At the same time, I think that, you know, who 371 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:25,119 knows what happens with these games in the future. But it also feels like 372 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,440 we're the conversation about oh, could these games come to PlayStation is one that's 373 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,400 mostly settled. Yes, they could come to PlayStation going forward. We know 374 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,039 that now, and they keep saying they keep sug just in that even more 375 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,319 is on the table, So I just won't be surprised if it actually ends 376 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,839 up. But this feels like a very particular This feels like a reach in 377 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,599 this moment. What do you think? No, I think again, like 378 00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:45,519 I will not be shocked if Gears of War shows up on PlayStation, like 379 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,480 as soon as this next one. It's still like the one where it's like, 380 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:53,039 you know, but maybe not, maybe even probably not, but like 381 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:57,880 they're considering it. They're absolutely talking about it, and yeah, it wouldn't 382 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,000 be some shocking things. What if you think that's something that's going to upset 383 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:06,480 you, I start preparing yourself right for the eventuality of it, so that 384 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:10,319 maybe you'll be over it when that happens. And also if you're like one 385 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:14,559 of these PlayStation fanboys. It's like this here it is proof that they're dead. 386 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:17,079 It's like this has happened a bunch of times already, it's going to 387 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,079 happen again. Like the conversation for this is settled. It is we get 388 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,880 what's happening here. They keep repeating themselves, they keep doing it, so 389 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,640 kind of just get used to it because this is the new normal. And 390 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,839 yet at the same time, I think, I think I tend to agree 391 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:34,119 with you that it's probably unlikely, unlikely for this next Gears of War game, 392 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,200 the one that just got announced, at least especially at like day and 393 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:41,000 date. Maybe it's the kind of thing that a year later, who knows 394 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:45,880 what happens. You know, going from Gears of Ward to Halo, you 395 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,359 see that the Halo TV show A Paramount Plus has been canceled after two seasons. 396 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,039 See like, people like season two a bit more than season one. 397 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,279 But it wasn't some giant turner. No fallout, that's for sure. And 398 00:23:56,279 --> 00:24:03,720 then that apparently the producers and Microsoft and everyone's the Ambulance Entertainment Steven Spielberg are 399 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,000 looking for a new home for it. But I don't know. Good luck, 400 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:08,640 I'm not gonna watch that show. Yeah, it just seems like I 401 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,240 just I don't know, maybe you count your losses at this point. It 402 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,599 just seems like it's wild that you miss with that. And I know it's 403 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,720 always hard, but boy, boy, did you not want to miss with 404 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,920 that Halo show? Yeah, I mean, listen, I didn't watch it, 405 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,039 so I'm not serious. I mean in terms of reception and popular I 406 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:29,640 mean the fact that it's canceled, not two seasons, it's a miss. 407 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,960 Yeah, No, I'm yes, right, no, definitely, I'm just 408 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,920 saying I didn't watch it so and I was about to like criticize it still, 409 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,400 so I was like caveating that, but I didn't watch it. That 410 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:41,480 said, if I were making that show the decisions that I've heard they made, 411 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,839 I was just there's no way you just make it much more of an 412 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,799 action show, you know, like a you know, it's a it's an 413 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,480 animated show. So maybe this is not the one to one, but like 414 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,680 a Ginde and I can't say Stan Guinea Tartatowski show, like Samurai with Jack 415 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:02,720 Samurai Jack, Yes, or like the Clone Wars shorts show that they did 416 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,279 something along those lines where you can have long moments of silence and just action. 417 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:08,839 Storytelling through action. That would be cool. I guess. I get 418 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:12,839 that's expensive for live action, but that's what you're making with Halo. I 419 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:15,440 don't know what else you think you're gonna be able to pull off, because 420 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000 clearly you didn't pull it off, right, And I understand it's a little 421 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,440 challenging because I don't know, like Halo always kind of presents itself as being 422 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,279 more mature than it really is a lot of times, I understand that the 423 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:30,119 Law has more going on, but I agree with you, right, And 424 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,839 I understand how like, you know, maybe you're tempted to do weird things 425 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,799 like we gotta you know, really we got to add sex to Halo and 426 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,440 more, you know. And yeah, it's like you're kind of making a 427 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:45,559 Star Wars really at the end, and it's like a slightly more military ish 428 00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,960 Star Wars. You're making like if the Clone Wars was good, I don't 429 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,160 know, right, yes, exactly, Well, even though the cartoon, 430 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,039 I mean, like I met the action, right, okay, sure, 431 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,160 yes, and then and it's like, yeah, it even has like the 432 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,160 complicated like oh, you know, the Jedi take these kids when they're young 433 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,880 and train them and take away with their parents. Isn't that complicated? Things? 434 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,759 Like, yeah, that's what they do in Halo too. There's like 435 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,799 similar stuff there, and it's yeah, you can definitely explore all that stuff. 436 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,279 But for the most part, I think you just want to make big, 437 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,400 bombastic action show. Uh that that then has some like cool sci fi 438 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720 stuff happening underneath the surface. But do you do you want to know what 439 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,000 happened on the Laura on Halo with the what they do when they take it 440 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,720 with the kids? Sure tell me they're gonna say no, But now I 441 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,240 do a curate. They clone the kid and then they give they give the 442 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,400 clone to the family, but the clone is like a defected clone, so 443 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,720 he dies a young age. So it's like all they were messed up. 444 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:44,559 It's like what do you hell? Yeah, that sounds a good time. 445 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:49,440 Uh yeah, good luck with your third season. But uh, we all 446 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,119 know like where Microsoft's real attention is at with with the with their television stuff, 447 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,039 and it's on Fallout, an Emmy nominated show, Like yeah, a 448 00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:03,720 very successful show that is also getting critically it's nominated for Best Drama. Like 449 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:07,359 that's crazy, right, that wave. I mean, it's not gonna win 450 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,480 because it's got to go against Showgun and Ship, but still getting nominated. 451 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,519 It's crazy. All right, we know what it is. We talked about 452 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,880 it last week. Now it's confirmed to be like Cohan, the Smiling Man 453 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:25,559 Dash the Famicom Detective Club. That's right, a new Famicom Detective Club game. 454 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,200 You didn't know this, Christian, I wonder why you're criticizing us when 455 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960 we put this on the rundown again you're like, oh, we already talked 456 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,839 about this, like yeah, but now we know where it is. And 457 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:41,960 then about anime. I don't know for the for the the thing with the 458 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,759 disc isn't it the weird funny Carl, isn't it them system? Is that 459 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:51,960 what you're thinking of? Yeah? Yeah, the famicomt Detective Club games might 460 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,240 have been disc system games. That's possible. I don't know, but uh, 461 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,920 they they they definitely never came out here originally, but they did release 462 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:04,759 some remakes on the Switch two years ago. I don't know recently enough. 463 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,519 I think there's also I remember people talking about this because it's like like a 464 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,640 bisho. No, there would be something that's something that you're to think of 465 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,880 something else because the fanco Detective Club games, only like there was a huge 466 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,759 gap, and then that was that was why it was a big deal when 467 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,720 they came home to switch. There are similar things than Nintendo's done. But 468 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,599 yes, so this way the first new Famicom Detective Club game in thirty five 469 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,920 years or something like that. I think that's right, and okay, I 470 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,759 think it's just kind of cool. Like listen, it's I'm not gonna pretend 471 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,920 this is living up to my imagination when we heard, oh, sure it's 472 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,359 making a new M rated game, but my imagination got out out of hand, 473 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,680 like of course it did. To hear that this is the reality, 474 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,160 I'm like, okay, let's reset things, and now I think this is 475 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,079 a cool idea. I do am I gonna play it. You know, 476 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,799 I'm not a visual novel guy, but I don't know. I think they 477 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,400 did a good job with this, and I'm kind of curious. I know 478 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,200 a lot of other people are very disappointed, but I don't care. Yah, 479 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,039 yeah, I'm not disappointed. Like I was never like destantly excited for 480 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,519 what this could be because I always had a hard time figure out what it 481 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,799 could be. And then as soon as you do, like say to Detect 482 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,240 Family Contact title quote, like, oh, that makes sense. Maybe I 483 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,720 should have seen that coming. Yeah, Jason Bonelli said exactly down on the 484 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,119 show, and I'm like, as soon as you said that, I'm like, 485 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,039 that's probably what it's going to be. So glad he called it like 486 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:23,160 that, right, And you know it's nice. Uh, the the the 487 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,359 Metroid guy is back to do this, right, so it's kind of like 488 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:33,240 a little pet project for him. So so that's fun. Yeah, why 489 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,200 not Sakamoto? That's right, Yes, sho Shio Sakamoto. Hey, why 490 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,319 not? It seems it definitely feels like a kind of a late late to 491 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,759 life, yes, or a switch game. Hey. I'm always saying the 492 00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:47,160 title should revivee more old franchises. I can't like take that back just because 493 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200 it's not necessarily one I care about. I'm glad they're doing it. Yep. 494 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:55,160 Same, exactly interesting and if if it's not for you, I listen, 495 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,160 I got a lot of games coming out and so makes it like the 496 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,480 other Phantom thing it's about it's about serial killers. Okay, but the other 497 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,799 Family Contact technicans aren't m rated, are they? I don't. I don't 498 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,160 think so. But you know they were written in a very different time. 499 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:14,119 Did the rating existed back then? When they did it? Remake it? 500 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,839 But like it's a little more like they killed people. The two case collection 501 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,240 is rated tea for teens, So no that they weren't. So they're getting 502 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,720 their ramping up. Yeah, I can only assume is sex and violence, 503 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,960 well serial killers, yes, yeah, it'll be like there'll be some like 504 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:34,319 references to whatever the however, the serial killer is killing people and that'll be 505 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:38,160 that'll get you an M rating. All right, that does it for the 506 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,519 big topics of the week. Of course, if we didn't talk about something 507 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,720 you want to talk about, well, you have your opportunity to guess to 508 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,559 do exactly that through the super chats, which we're going to get you right 509 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:59,759 after these messages and we are back and as promised, super chats, Mike 510 00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:00,599 been do you have those in front of you? Why do you go ahead 511 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440 and read those right now? All right? Big Fresh thirty seven is two 512 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,920 weeks ago, classified military secrets were leaked on the forms for the video game 513 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,880 war Thunder in order to win a forum fight. This is the fourteenth time. 514 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,559 That's incredible, wow, but wait, the fourteenth time this has happened 515 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,559 well, I would assume. I mean, I don't think it's the fourteenth 516 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,839 time that they sent a super chat. Uh, so yeah, we'll see 517 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,319 that. Yeah, I definitely have heard stories like that before. I remember 518 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,279 hearing that in the past two weeks ago is not when I heard that, 519 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,880 So yeah, that must be another time. Maybe that's a discord and this 520 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,000 cord happens also, are you people arguing and they're like the dropped some knowledge 521 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:41,839 and it's like, oh, classify his documents from the military. That is 522 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,680 incredible, especially like just imagining what the warth under scene must be, like, 523 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,240 oh god, that's gotta be kind of a nightmare. That sounds incredible. 524 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,799 Simon SD says Jeff and Shawn. I want to learn more about general 525 00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,400 hardware. Do you two have recommended sources? Mike, you're supposed to be 526 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,119 found fancy sixteen not sex? Hey look, uh, I know, Sean, 527 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,519 what do you think shy? Yeah, go ahead, there he is 528 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:14,799 everybody there's Sean. Yeah, I know what we're talking about. Yeah, 529 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,000 there you go, thanks Sean. Uh. Digital Founderies got a weekly podcast, 530 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:20,839 and you don't want to watch all their videos, but you watch those 531 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640 as well. That's good. Like and then if you want general hardware, 532 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,240 you don't actually start even broader than that, start with like just general technology. 533 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,160 There is a YouTube channel called Technology Connections. They just did a video 534 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,240 about awnings, like the things that go over windows, and there's the best 535 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:42,039 they're the best fucking videos on YouTube. Sky just knows what he's talking about. 536 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,960 He'll do the science, he'll do the math for you. Uh it's 537 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,839 just the best shit on YouTube. It's great. Uh So start there and 538 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,480 then go to your library and like there's always going to be a couple of 539 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,640 good books on like hey, how computer graphics work and stuff like that if 540 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,799 you're or whatever topic you're interested in, and you could read those, listen 541 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,680 to books on tape and you'll get like a general understanding of just like how 542 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,640 these things are rendered in the first place. So I for me, it's 543 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,720 a combination things podcast, YouTube videos, and books. And if you are 544 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,359 consuming these things consistently, like not a ton, not like two hours a 545 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,440 day, but a couple hours per week on any number of these variety of 546 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,440 sources, over time, you're gonna get more and more informed on it. 547 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,279 It just kind of happens naturally. So don't make a big deal out of 548 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:30,279 it find the most entertaining way to consume this stuff, and it should click 549 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,759 for you. I'm gonna play sixteen. I'm gonna play it this year. 550 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,240 But boy, Final Physy six shure is good. Itsolutely many. Final Fantasy 551 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:42,400 sixteen was more like Final Fantasy six. I just did the I'm in the 552 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,119 World of Ruin now people will know, well, well, oh, the 553 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,119 first so you know. The remix music is very good, right, but 554 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,680 the remixed up Searching for Friends is the name theme. It's kind of the 555 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,960 second main overall theme and only kicks in at their very specific kind of turning 556 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,759 point in the game. Holy Crapped they kill it with that. That was 557 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:06,839 like a religious experience listening to it played the first time. Yes, this 558 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,400 incredible Holy Crab, Like, oh oh, I feel like if you know 559 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,119 Ifrophasy six you don't think you're gonna play the Pixuri Master type soon. Just 560 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,679 look up the pixel re Master version of Searching for Friends. Beautiful. The 561 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,119 ten Derek says, just finish the voicemail dump truck. I'm from Indiana and 562 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:27,079 can't confirm the nacho cheese with bread sicks thing. Absolutely everyone loves it. 563 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,920 It makes more sense than Dan's a real thing. Yeah, of course, 564 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,760 bread and cheese is like one of the greatest combinations ever. I am so 565 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,440 on board with this idea. I oh, I gotta get some nacho cheese 566 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:44,840 and breadstick. Oh oh, I love nacho cheese. Not cheese is good. 567 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,440 Nothing against that. I and I do like the Mariner. You're thing 568 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,519 about the cup of Mariner with the like the sealed one. Yeah, that's 569 00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:53,039 bad, but a lot of places do fresh marin Era and that's great. 570 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,039 Look, I'm not trust me. I'm not anti Marinara. No no, 571 00:34:58,039 --> 00:34:59,760 no, I know, I know, and I got what you were going 572 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,480 for. And of course not Joe cheese is gonna be a better get interesting. 573 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:07,840 It's incredible every time, of course. Alrighty. Next up here is 574 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,280 a from oh Grug who says, why does JEP keep failing in Dakatana? 575 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,960 It's funny the first time, but bro just keep doing it for three hours 576 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,000 yesterday? Mike always had Proggy. To be clear, here was that one 577 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:27,519 time I did not progress a single episode in uh mythologies only even half as 578 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:30,360 long as you spent on the second level. I think I was on that 579 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,360 for like five hours, five hours, okay, five or halfway through that 580 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,760 or I'm probably exactly halfway because there's about a half an hour of Froggy's in 581 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,039 that last episode. Yeah, I did really realize, you know, the 582 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,000 how long to beat thing? Like what the problem is? Like, there's 583 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,719 an option for unlimited saves in the Men, but everyone on Earth would click 584 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:51,880 yeah, if you don't start, you would immediately be like, oh, 585 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,719 this is annoying. I'm just gonna click that now and play it that way. 586 00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:58,440 And uh so the yeah, I think anything it had been defaults to 587 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,480 that now. Yeah, you're right. So the fact that I am not 588 00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:05,039 playing with unlimited saves has been a real issue. I think I'm just gonna 589 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,800 maybe go back and see if I can find a couple of things to make 590 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,960 it a little bit easier. Although my issue is just I have had plenty 591 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,280 of health on that second half of that level. It just sucks. It's 592 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,039 just a bad game. I think what we can do for sure to make 593 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:20,800 it easier is if you go back to where that one super armor was and 594 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,880 I do know where it is, and then go back to where you were, 595 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,960 it will automatically save with your super arm because it's a load zone. 596 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,840 So that will be something Okay, that sounds good. I wonder, I 597 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,840 wonder if we could be little shits here. We should have done this way 598 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,280 earlier because that load zones right there. We should have opened that gate or 599 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,800 the boss arena and just run through there and come back. Oh god, 600 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,480 damn, it could be even do that. They're beating the boss. Honestly, 601 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,400 how did no one in chat say that that's crazy that we know considered 602 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,800 that? Okay, I never never even thought about it. We got a 603 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,559 game plan for Wednesday, now, all right, all right, cool, 604 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,239 there's something great? Yeah that that that game sucks. It is so bad. 605 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,719 Oh, it's supposed to not be that bad. You got off easy, 606 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,519 everybody says, I and I am playing the worst way you could possibly 607 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:13,159 play. So yeah, true, that's true. Ye, all right, 608 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,480 next up actually getting past that level though. Willow Davis's Mike popped the sky 609 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:22,199 Risie before the show and it just it. Oh baby, Niktaro says, 610 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,400 how have you two been? It's been a bit since I've been able to 611 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,760 watch. I got my first real job out of school and starting Monday. 612 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,679 Stay awesome, you congratulations, Nick got the job. Our boys growing up 613 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,960 before our eyes. It's a beautiful thing to see. We're doing well. 614 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,559 I hope you hope you are as well there? Yeah, come skyriz up. 615 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:39,480 I can not be doing well now, doing better than ever? Mc 616 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,920 goombas. Is that feeling when you're at the Cleveland airport right a flight to 617 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,639 Vegas for EVA when the flight is canceled due to a nationwide front tier outage? 618 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,519 Oh, I hope, man. I hope they're able to reschedule something 619 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,360 now they're able to get out there. Still. I think Sean fos spirit 620 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,960 so I hope he was able to get out there. But I hope everyone 621 00:37:58,039 --> 00:37:59,800 is able to make it out. If you're trying to get out there, 622 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:01,920 Hey, if you're stuck at the airport, still, just go go over 623 00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:06,360 to a Great Lakes Brewery, get yourself with Elliott, NASA or something. 624 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,559 Just relax. Yeah, there's a Great Lakes Brewery in the bar Simon, 625 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:14,360 right next to each other, so one or the other. Mister pod Rage, 626 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,559 says Mikey stop by bird Fish on the way to a show in Cleveland. 627 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:21,119 All nice, great bruising record selection. Didn't get lucky like you with 628 00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,400 some video game tunes, but went home with Adam's Grove by mc hammer. 629 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:30,320 Cheers yeah, yeah, to bird Fish in Columbiana. I think I'm actually 630 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,280 going there Saturday. Always a very good time. It's nice because like they 631 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000 don't have a kitchen, but they always especially on like the weekends, we'll 632 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,360 have a food truck there of some kinds you can eat. Then of pinball 633 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,079 games. That's where I was playing the Jaws game right that I've raved about. 634 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,159 And they always you know, I talked about some of theme stuff they 635 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:50,440 do before that's fun. Like they did a big Mario Day thing, they 636 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,000 did a big Star Wars day thing, they did a little Bowski and even 637 00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,519 did Anthony board Dain Day the last time I was there. So always fun 638 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,639 stuff and they always have special beers for those things. And then Justin Weatherman 639 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,039 says, I'm buying a switch from my dad games wise, going with Breath 640 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,559 with the Wild Hades and Mario. Wonder what do you think are the best 641 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,000 dad games? All right, Jeff, what's the best Dad game for Switch? 642 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,599 Yeah? Those are pretty good. You could also, I mean, 643 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:17,719 listen, it's gonna vary by from dad to dad, of course, but 644 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,159 the mud Runner games are on Switch and they run pretty well, so maybe 645 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,039 maybe get mud Runner. I would get Snow Runner. I think snow Runners 646 00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,440 on there as well. That's probably the ideal one. Maybe look at some 647 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,119 reviews, see how expeditions run runs. If he's maybe more limited in terms 648 00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,519 of time and he just wants something that's a little bit more bite size, 649 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:40,280 that would be great. Yeah, if your dad likes Breath with the Wild 650 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,559 and Mario wonder, I'm sure Mario Odyssey would still hit. Everybody likes Mario, 651 00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,199 say's just a game for everybody. Yep, absolutely. Uh so, 652 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,719 you know b Travin says, you hear that Nintendo makes it post Melee games 653 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,760 less competitive to discourage their party tournaments and people clinging to old releases. Oh 654 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480 have you heard? Yeah, have been mentioning this to me about like when 655 00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:05,000 I brought up the leader boards, several people who have pointed out this theory 656 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:07,400 that people think has been confirmed maybe and some people aren't sure. And mainly 657 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,480 it was a long time ago, and they have ebbs and flows, like 658 00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:15,400 when Smashboard Ultimate were coming out, like they like were doing stuff. They 659 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,000 even brought back to the Tender World Championship branding at one point, right, 660 00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:22,719 and also, like I if they were trying to make games less competitive to 661 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,559 discourage third party tournaments. This game does not succeed at that just because it 662 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:31,000 doesn't have leader boards. Like If anything, a third party tournament makes more 663 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:34,840 sense because you don't have third leader boards, because you want to get people 664 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,360 together and have a competition. So I get this, and I definitely Nintendo 665 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,679 does feel like the kind of company that would overreact and have some sort of 666 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,440 mandate in place that would explain some of this stuff. Maybe to me, 667 00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:53,280 I feel like the mandate the more likely mandate is we make family party games, 668 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:58,039 and this game needs to feel like a family party game and not some 669 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,880 online competitive game for that reason. Yeah, that might make sense. Cajun 670 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,320 ghatsays, are you guys looking forward to the India Jones game following Went and 671 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,599 it looks like it could be the biggest indie game this year? Oh Jesus, 672 00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:15,000 I am. I'm very excited. I like Indiana Jones. I love 673 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,199 it. Games looks good. Machine Machine head Machine games to the machine, 674 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,360 which one's this machine machine game? Machine machine had was the bush song that 675 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,320 got brought up a voicemail dumb truck today that I listened to and the guy 676 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,480 listened to again, So yeah, thank you, thank you. I was 677 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,280 thinking about this is kind of funny how this game has been positioned as opposed 678 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,079 to Starfield last year, where it seems like Starfield that are pushing very very 679 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:44,599 hard, this one a little bit less so. But it's still their kind 680 00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:46,239 of I guess it's not their big fall game anymore. I mean that's why 681 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,920 their big fall game is Call of Duty. Yes, I think that's part 682 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,280 of it. Part of it is just like this is how games get marketed. 683 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,960 Now. You know, Astrobot does have a release date, but they 684 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,559 haven't like really gone all out with that they have. Isn't there another game 685 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:05,639 they have though? Oh, they have that Lego Horizons game, And while 686 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,480 that's clearly not the biggest thing in the world that doesn't have a release date, 687 00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:12,800 they aren't talking about it beyond what they talked about at Summer Game Fest. 688 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,360 They just kind of wait until much closer before they really start marketing and 689 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,840 marketing these things. And honestly, Bethsa started that with Fallout four. So 690 00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,199 I think that they are happy to save their money on marketing and wait till 691 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,920 it gets a lot closer and then go all out. But any a joke 692 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:29,559 still doesn't actually have a specific release ate it's still just twenty twenty four. 693 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,920 Most of these games in the late holiday don't. It's crazy, but that's 694 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,960 the same the way things work these days. Avowed Yep, yep, Yeah, 695 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,639 I'm very excited about it. I love machine games, I love Indiana 696 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,360 Jones, and I love that the game is first person because I really enjoyed 697 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,599 that whip game that I can never remember, like Temple the Temple Running game, 698 00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:50,639 but that's not Temple Run. That was a first person like whipping game 699 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:52,960 where you can whip onto stuff and swing and it worked really well. And 700 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,760 I think this team's gonna nail that stuff. And I really thought that that 701 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,480 cinematic that they showed was a lot of fun and kind of right up my 702 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,440 alley. You know, anytime you got a Nazi phantom of Benz, that's 703 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,960 great. Phantom a bitch. Thank you, thank you. That's it for 704 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,840 supertests now for now, everyone, but if you want to send more and 705 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,519 we will read it before the end of the show. Thank you for the 706 00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:14,199 support, everybody. We appreciate it. Okay, what we're gonna do now 707 00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:15,920 is we're gonna take another quick break, just real fast to get set up. 708 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,960 We're gonna do it Closest to the Messy Pen because we have Bob here. 709 00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:25,800 We're gonna do that right after this. All right, we are back, 710 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,159 and don't be alarmed. We are going to do a game and it's 711 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,159 not going to be hosted by turbo Sean. Instead one of our other mods, 712 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,599 Benjibop, is here, who actually puts these games together for us to 713 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,760 host. Benjibob, I appreciate it. The show is now yours. Yes, 714 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,639 thank you, Jeff. Hello everyone. In my never ending thirst for 715 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,119 power, I've disposed of Turbo Sean so that I can finally present my own 716 00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:53,480 game show Closest to the Messy Pin, Volume twenty four, presented by Benji 717 00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:58,880 Bob, powered by Metacritic, a Bop original. Now it has meant twenty 718 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,159 four of these. That's crazy. Yeah, you know, I try to 719 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,400 go back and see when the last one was. It was like sometime in 720 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,199 May. I'm pretty sure we're at twenty four. I could be wrong, 721 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,480 but I'm pretty sure it's been a lot either way here twenty three or twenty 722 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,360 four. And there's also like the special additions, so we're actually closer to 723 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,360 thirty. All right, then, anyway, it has been a while, 724 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,079 so just a refresh around the rules. Every round, the players will be 725 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:27,800 given a certified retro game aka older than ten years. The goal is to 726 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,199 predict the game's metacritics score, and we're using a closest to the pin system, 727 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,119 so you can be above or below. As long as you are close 728 00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:38,920 to the number, you'll get points. Either way. Lois score wins if 729 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,920 you guess the exact number, deduct five points from your score. And of 730 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,039 course the new rule as adjusted by aj Minotti and ran into a lot by 731 00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:50,639 executive producer Benji Bob. Rounds two through five, the current leader has to 732 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,039 go first. Now I have done my homework and I had I did. 733 00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:59,519 Go back to May and look at who won. And Mike, if you 734 00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,840 remember you won thirty one to three because you got too right and you have 735 00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,559 like your best game ever, I should play this game anymore. Maybe it's 736 00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:13,880 not. I agree for different reasons. How On that note, Mike, 737 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:19,920 you will be going first in round number one, which will be Geometry Wars 738 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,719 Retro Evolved two for the Xbox three sixty release date July thirtieth, two thousand 739 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,039 and eight, based on fifty two critic reviews. I also think I already 740 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:34,800 know the theme. Yeah, people, Oh I get it. I think 741 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,440 I people up fast. Okay, I like it. This is good. 742 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,199 This is gonna help us for the next segment. Ah yeah, people really 743 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,280 like Geometry Wars. Retro is retro evolved too? Different from Geometry Wars Too? 744 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,079 Is this not just Geometry Wars Too? I think it's just Geometry one, 745 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:52,639 It's just two. And I don't know why I'm helping you. Yeah, 746 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,119 people really like it. Like well, he's thinking, just when people 747 00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,679 know it? Is the simple answer? This what this game is golf rules. 748 00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:02,800 You're trying to get the lowest, trying to get the closest. I'm 749 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,880 gonna go with a ninety. I think that's the scheme. Got a pretty 750 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,239 good Metacritics score. That is kind of where what my thinking was to Mike. 751 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,960 That's like, people really liked it, but how high could it really 752 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,679 be? But I think I think people were definitely savvy to Geometry Wars by 753 00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:20,320 this point, and there would have been that self selection bias of people who 754 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,599 like Geometry Wars being the ones to review this game. But I'm gonna like 755 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,559 kind of go for it and hope, I don't know, I'm gonna go 756 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,639 with an eighty nine. Okay, my break kind of broke for a second 757 00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:36,920 because usually I don't do this, So I was listening to be like, 758 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,719 hey, why isn't the score up there? Hey? You got it, 759 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:44,039 it's right there. Yeah. So I also can't say anything because I actually 760 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,559 know the scores, so I don't want to. You know, right, 761 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:51,239 you just influence either way. You're doing a good Joe. Ever, one 762 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:57,159 of you might have been on the money. It's Mike with the nineties starting 763 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,800 off where he left off. Wow, I'm gonna say, this is the 764 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,679 one time where I was really close to thinking I should just do ninety as 765 00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:06,360 well. I should. I'm like, I think that's right. That sounded 766 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,519 so good. I'm like, if I would have gone first, I would 767 00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:12,760 have said ninety this is fantastic. That sucks. It's the favorite rule we 768 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,519 never actually enact. We have used it once. Yeah that's true. Okay, 769 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:19,480 Yeah, you're right, that's true. We didn't use it all. 770 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,039 Right, Well, Mike, because you're at negative five, you will go 771 00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:28,280 next on game number two, Super Meat Boy for the Xbox three sixty release 772 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,119 date October twentieth, twenty ten. Based on fifty one critic reviews. Okay, 773 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,000 interesting, another game people really like. I don't know if the I 774 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,239 don't know if it's quite Geometry Wars levels. I think I'll go more than 775 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:49,239 an eighty seven for Super Meat Boy. H Yeah, that's that sounds pretty 776 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,239 good as well. I feel like I can't go too far away from this 777 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,320 one again, even though I'm pretty far back. I kind of have to 778 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,000 stay in this range because I think that's right. This time, I'm gonna 779 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,960 go. I'll go up one. I'm gonna go with eighty eight. Yeah 780 00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:12,480 right, Okay, Well, you know there are certain things when I make 781 00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:16,360 this game, I try and you know, balance the scores and do all 782 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,840 these different things so that it's hard to predict and obviously different age range or 783 00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,079 like time periods. But you know, this week I kind of just whipped 784 00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:28,000 it up fast, and for the first time ever, we have a repeat 785 00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,800 score of ninety ninety. You are two away, Mike, you are three? 786 00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:37,840 All right? Okay, interesting man, ninety people for it. Thanks. 787 00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:42,599 Yes, it's weird that the sequel for it as an auto rather that 788 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,480 people don't like s much. Wow. Yeah, it's weird, but also 789 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,960 yeah it's bad. Okay, man might make some moves here. I've only 790 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,159 got three games left. Yeah, you're up negative two to three, and 791 00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,639 you will guess first once again in game number three, which is Trial HD 792 00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:05,079 for the Xbox three. Sixty really stayed August twelve, two thousand and nine, 793 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,400 based on fifty one critic reviews. And I feel like we're hovering and 794 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:15,480 run the same frame here, although maybe not as high again, maybe this 795 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,360 time is more in that eighty seven range. Are I feel better about ACE 796 00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:22,639 now? Maybe even a little bit lower. I don't know, because this 797 00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:24,159 game is harder than those other ones in a lot of ways, so maybe 798 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:29,119 some people would have got frustrated, would have got frustrated, Like my niece 799 00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:34,519 used to say, I'll go in eighty six for Trials HD. Dammit. 800 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:39,800 Okay, yeah, I was kind of thinking along the same lines as Mike 801 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,920 as he was saying that allowed where it's like, oh, you know what, 802 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,559 the same range, But I think I was kind of thinking towards an 803 00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:47,880 eighty five. But that doesn't really give me much to work with here. 804 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,840 I got I have to go with an eighty five and hope that I'm dead 805 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,840 on so eighty five please, okayky? Yeah? This, uh, you 806 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,039 know, It's also funny that the first three games all released within a year 807 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:05,280 of each other. I mean, this is like Prime three sixty Live Arcade. 808 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:12,079 You know, that's a good days of Xbox Live. But there can 809 00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:15,599 only be one winner of game number three. I don't remember what the score 810 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:19,199 is, so let's find out. It's an eighty six. Oh no, 811 00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:25,639 Mike is not fire once again. Oh my god, I'm so far I 812 00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:37,639 feel good. Test drug test, Mike. I will need a couple of 813 00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:42,480 your piss at the end of this episode. Feli it tightly so that it 814 00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,079 does not get lost in the mail. Please. Okay. Well, with 815 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,119 a store of negative seven to four, Mike, you are still in a 816 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,960 very comfortable lead. And now we go to game number four, where, 817 00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:59,000 hey, this one might be good for you. Dance Dance Resolute Revolution Disney 818 00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:04,159 Channel Edition the PlayStation two, January eighth, two thousand and eight release date 819 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,639 based on a Brave nine critic reviews. Okay, this is different from like 820 00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:14,960 that PS one Disney remix. This is I assume literally like teeny Bopper songs, 821 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,599 which I can't imagine critics enjoyed very much. But I like, how 822 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,480 mean four can they be? This could be a chance for Jeff to catch 823 00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:31,400 up. I'll be basic and safe here and say, look again, seventy 824 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,280 seems high because how much could video game reviewers really enjoy Disney Channel music? 825 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,639 They would hate a score. Remember how much Dan Record so much? Remember 826 00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:50,199 how much Dan Record didn't even like take over. I'm gonna I'm gonna say 827 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,280 a sixty seven. Now you sid have a bitch, God damn you, 828 00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:01,559 And that'll give you a good chance just case. I mean, I guess 829 00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:05,000 I gotta go in the other direction and hope because it's not going to be 830 00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,599 like that much lower than that, like even if because it's a DDR, 831 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:10,000 they're not going to like screw up the basics. I don't think I'm gonna 832 00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:14,719 go I'll go with a let's see how many points do I need. I'll 833 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,880 just go with that. I'll go with a seventy eight. It's kind of 834 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,320 high, but whatever, Yep, let's see it. Maybe it's great. 835 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,039 Maybe listen, if I had my way, I would I would have gone 836 00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:28,960 with a sixty five, but mot shit slapped. I don't know. Yeah, 837 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,920 Well, just like Miley, Styrus says, it's the climb, and 838 00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,840 Jeff, your points are climbing because we got a sixty one. The plmate 839 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:43,079 Bob curveball strikes again, and in Mike's favor, he is still in the 840 00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:46,599 negatives. Oh wait, that was the wrong way saying that negative one. 841 00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:52,679 Ah left, great good good golf score. Yeah, decent golf score. 842 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,039 Yeah. If you're playing in the British Open right now, you'd be like 843 00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,639 top five because not scoring well in the money. All right, fantastic. 844 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:07,320 I feel good final game. I will Editor's note for myself, I could 845 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,719 have done another Leaderboard game. However, this week is very important to me 846 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,440 as a revival of one of the best franchises of all time. Of course, 847 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,239 I'm talking about college football. NCAA thirteen is game number five for the 848 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:29,800 Xbox three sixty released state July ten, twenty twelve, based on twenty critic 849 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,639 reviews, and you could catch up here, Jeff, I really know very 850 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:39,039 little about what people thought of these games. I recall that they're being criticized 851 00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:44,360 for kind of just being pretty light reskins of the that year's Madden Game at 852 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,840 this point towards the end here, so I'm gonna guess there's not a ton 853 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,719 of enthusiasm for them. But how bad can it be I'll do a seventy 854 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:57,239 two. Yeah, I don't really think I have a chance here. Yeah, 855 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,559 because there's no I'd have to get a direct I have to be like 856 00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:05,000 what fifteen away? Sixteen away? And also dead on, and that's my 857 00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,639 best hoax. I don't think you're twenty two points off anyway, Get closer, 858 00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:12,440 you know, get your dignity backcause right now I'm crampy fair. That's 859 00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:14,920 well. Yeah, but I mean, what choice did I have last last 860 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:21,920 round? Okay, let's see here, I guess I will go with a 861 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:31,039 let's just hope for the best and say in eighty eight. Okay, I 862 00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:35,920 like it. I mean now, if I was reviewing the game, I 863 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,679 would be giving it an eighty eight course. However, these twenty critics, 864 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,440 they disagreed. They gave it a seventy six. Mike, that sounds about 865 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,159 right, yep, once again doing very well, well done, Mike, 866 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,760 we did it. Come on out, everybody, let's celebrate. We did. 867 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:54,320 Yeah, there they are, Yeah, I got it. Uh, 868 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,920 And there is your final score. Mike with three, Jeff with thirty three, 869 00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,920 almost an identical score to the last game, which was thirty one to 870 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,559 three. Jeff started getting a hole in this game. You got to make 871 00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:08,440 moves and then when it goes bad, it goes real bad. Yeah, 872 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,719 you did the same strategy of like doing the math, and I think that 873 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,679 just like yeah worked, you should just play to win your ear trying to 874 00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:19,519 play three D chess. No, No, that is playing to win. 875 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,920 What do you mean, right, Never think like that. And look at 876 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,480 me. I'm hanging echoing. Yeah, oh shit, Okay, I didn't 877 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,440 think about that. You get to hang out with that going rocket night. 878 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,199 All right, thank you so much for that, bop. What we're gonna 879 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,280 do now is I'll get set up real quick for this because this is just 880 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,280 right over here. Uh, and we're gonna pick We're gonna do mount rushmore 881 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,639 of leaderboard games. Mike, Why don't you explain what we do here with 882 00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:49,159 this? Yeah, So, Jeff and I are going to kind of nominate 883 00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:52,440 a bunch of games that we think would be the most emblematic of this category. 884 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,559 Not necessarily the best. Sometimes quality is a pretty big marker, and 885 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,039 this one more so than others. I think that's going to matt Or quite 886 00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:04,000 a bit by leaderboard games. You don't know what that I mean to say, 887 00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,079 it's games that kind of have built in leader boards, and I think 888 00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,360 we mean online ones, right, Like you know, if you had some 889 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,039 ur port of pac Man as a kid where you had a leaderboard. That 890 00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:19,800 may not be exactly what we're talking about here, who knows, we'll see, 891 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,440 but Jeff and I are going to nominate some We'll have our our podcast 892 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,039 producers also give us some ideas, and then we'll take a kind of a 893 00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:30,719 short list here and we'll pick four games from that. Yep, sounds good, 894 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,840 And uh, Mike, why don't you start us off while I get 895 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,360 the dot going as well? Well, I gotta go with I think probably 896 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,440 my favorite of all of these kind of games, and one that I just 897 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,679 really dove into. It is one that kind of took a game that I 898 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,960 probably would have, like, you know, liked a lot, and made 899 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,599 it something more special for me. Uh. It is theon White, a 900 00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:55,840 game that I like, got so deep into to the point where I got 901 00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,840 my overall time down to where I got in the top one hundred. It 902 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,480 was one hundred, but you know still, you know, I felt really 903 00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:08,039 good about that. It seemed impressive at the time. And it is level 904 00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:10,840 based, right, and there's a lot of levels if people don't know, 905 00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:17,599 it's kind of a first person action platforming thing where a lot of your movement 906 00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:22,679 abilities are also your attacking abilities, and you have to kind of kill all 907 00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:28,199 the enemies while you're doing the run. So it's very kinetic, very fun 908 00:57:28,239 --> 00:57:30,360 stuff, and there are a lot of interesting ways you can kind of find 909 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,199 shortcuts, and you know, the way I was doing sometimes even was like, 910 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,400 yeah, there's like a glitch where you can kind of like teleport through 911 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,519 the wall if you hit like just the right pixels. It's like, let's 912 00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:44,159 keep trying this until we can find that pixel. That stuff was super fun. 913 00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:46,880 It was really great, especially because it was like a cumulative thing for 914 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,920 me, and it was fun when I was competing with you and Dan. 915 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800 It was specific levels. It was just like really getting that time down, 916 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,079 but it was also fun. It was like I need to like overall find 917 00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,440 thirty seconds to shave ross. Yeah, levels, am I really gonna think 918 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,480 I can actually find some of that time in? Right? So it was 919 00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:08,679 super fun for that, you know, and like, because the game had 920 00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,119 some other flaws, I can't necessarily love the story stuff, right that this 921 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,119 more than made up for all of that. Just how much fun it was 922 00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:20,519 going through and doing this leader board experience, and it was just really made 923 00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:23,360 with that stuff in mind. Yep, and it's it could It shows like 924 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,840 just how much you can do when you when you're thinking that way from the 925 00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:30,079 from the beginning. So like you said, it is the entire game has 926 00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:35,360 this massive leader board that is very different than the individual individual level leader boards, 927 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,679 and both of those are viable ways to play that game and kind of 928 00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:43,400 serve a different audience in some ways. So yeah, then White is fantastic. 929 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,360 I think I will go with another more recent one for my first one 930 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:55,840 here. I'll go with Astro's Playroom. That idea of having a platforming game 931 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,800 and then taking sections of the levels from the main platforming game and turning those 932 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,320 into dedicated speed runs, having just a handful of those, so there's eight 933 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,039 of them, and then and then at the same time having each of those 934 00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:15,480 have their own times with their own speed run leaderboards, and then having a 935 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:21,079 global leaderboard for all eight. Put together very similar idea and just executed so 936 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,480 well. And it's also like it's such a smaller version of what Neon White 937 00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:29,239 was doing that was much more manageable, so you could really honing in on 938 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:35,760 some of these levels, and a three D platformer is surprisingly complicated enough that 939 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,480 there is just always kind of this extra edge of like if you just cut 940 00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:43,679 one corner a little bit closer, you can save that fraction of a second 941 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,880 and that chef that stuff adds up really fast. And yeah, just it 942 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,400 felt really good. Of course it helps to Astro is a fun game to 943 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,840 play, not as thrilling as as Neon White necessarily, but Astro different just 944 00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,840 is solid and it becomes thrilling in these speed run chases. Yeah, and 945 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,639 you know this was you know, this little kind of pack in game thing 946 01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:07,119 that normally would take you a few hours to play through and beat, and 947 01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:13,360 this added so much extra play time. Yea, because yes, some of 948 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,119 the first streaming I ever did before even was set up for it, Like 949 01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:19,920 I was just streaming straight on Twitch because I was just doing that mountain run 950 01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:22,800 over and over and it was so exhilarating. You know, it's fun because 951 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,599 it was like, oh yeah, we're like actually using glitches and stuff and 952 01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:29,840 like, oh, like over here there's like a little bit of geometry. 953 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,280 You can actually kind of stand on it and you can do a double jump. 954 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,639 Again. It felt so cool pulling that stuff off it was and learning, 955 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,719 right, learning the tricks from watching other people do it on YouTube and 956 01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:42,719 stuff like that, and sharing that tech with one another and getting some speed 957 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,440 runners involved, and you know, getting Dan involved. And that's when I 958 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,159 first like to really started talking to Dan and stuff. It's it was pretty 959 01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:52,119 cool. I think I will bring up Geometry Wars retro Evolved too. It 960 01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:58,159 was one of the first times I really was ever seeing or thinking about online 961 01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:00,400 leaderboards. Even though I didn't dive into a lot. I just remember the 962 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,159 excitement and everybody talking about it. It comparing these things and it was fun, 963 01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:08,360 like yeah, like okay, it's just automatically tells me how good I'm 964 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,360 doing compared to my friends. It's part of what made the XBOUS sixty such 965 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,639 a good console is that it was really smart and just making a lot of 966 01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:21,559 the things we take for granted now standard. Right, it's good stuff. 967 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,360 I know you played this one a lot, Yeah, I played a ton 968 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,519 of this. You know has the different modes in there, but again, 969 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:30,840 not so many modes. That's overwhelming. Something that these games can occasionally be 970 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:36,039 guilty of of, like really spreading out the love and kind of what what 971 01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:38,719 that does is it diminishes some of these smaller modes. That's still going to 972 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,519 happen even when you have again like Dahn maybe eight modes, maybe four I 973 01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:49,280 Camp I think it was probably eight. But like playing Passivism and not being 974 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,960 able to shoot, but just having these gates you had to go through and 975 01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:58,400 trying to just nail the movement of going around attracting these enemies so they'll get 976 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,199 in your sort of wake and fall though your gravity around and being able to 977 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,719 drag them in and and then like sort of skirting closer to them as you're 978 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,000 about to go through one of these exploding gates, hitting the exploding gate and 979 01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:13,320 watching the feeling of just having so many of them get caught up in that 980 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,559 explosion and dying, and then you get all the experience or the points from 981 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:20,800 that. It was just incredible. It's such a good mode. And then 982 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,800 all the other modes are great as well. Just Geometry Wars is fantastic. 983 01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:31,480 Yes, Pacmand Championship addition to Deluxe, I can't there was the one that 984 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,480 let me make sure I'm thinking which one am I thinking of? Right? 985 01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:38,719 I remember then it's very similar, kind of like the same time frame as 986 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:45,440 Geometry Wars. Yes where and this is like where they had Pacman Championship Edition. 987 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,679 The first one it was like really solid. They just really improved it 988 01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:52,000 with the second one where they had this five minute championship where you try to 989 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,159 do as much as you can in five minutes, and if you are doing 990 01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:59,559 things perfectly and you are not getting hit by the ghosts ever, and you're 991 01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:01,039 chomping up as many ghosts as you can, when you do have a power 992 01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:05,679 pellet, you could just get these multipliers that just increase so much and in 993 01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:08,800 those last few seconds you can make a huge leap on the leaderboard. And 994 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,920 that's one of the first times where it's like this game a lot of people 995 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,280 are playing this game, and I was able to get into like the top 996 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,119 one thousand on the leaderboard and it just felt incredible, and it was again 997 01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:20,320 it's like when this is happening, your brain shuts off. It's just you 998 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,599 in the game, and it's really like powerful stuff. I do think so 999 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,440 Championship Edition two was the first one that did it. I think Championship Edition 1000 01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:31,320 d x plus was a sequel that also was popular with and we'll go with 1001 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:37,280 that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, I mean at this 1002 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,599 point, I think we could throw some more, but I bet the podcast 1003 01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:44,480 producers will will help this out. Thinks that sounds right? I run this 1004 01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:45,679 off. When don't we go over to them? Sounds good? I think 1005 01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:51,480 I have that ready to go right now. Lily Wu Lee Wu starts off 1006 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,039 with Neon White, and of course that was the first one to get up 1007 01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:58,320 there for us. Fire Hair twelve thousand echoes that as well with Neon White. 1008 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,079 Neon White also just came to Xbox. Everybody think it might be really 1009 01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:04,679 pass Yeah, this cool soundtrack package. That game has a great soundtrack. 1010 01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:08,559 I still kind of hear that, like like shoot for the Heavens or whatever. 1011 01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:11,760 I hear that in my head every once. Definitely. Yeah, very 1012 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,639 dreamcast coded. Uh Splunky, which I never really did any the leaderboard stuff 1013 01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:18,639 on Spelunky that was that was always one where it was like just kind of 1014 01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:23,599 challenging to get through the game for me. Uh So, and you know, 1015 01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:26,159 I never truly fell in love with Spelunky, so that's a big part 1016 01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:28,559 of it. And I never could get into Spolunky for some reason, I 1017 01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:32,400 don't know. Always be clothing slash Corky says Astro's playroom. Correct, it's 1018 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,719 so good. It's so good. Man achue for us Robot. That's trio. 1019 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,840 It's gonna be so good. Eden is experiencing Evo. Fomo says track 1020 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,679 Mania. Another one I've never really gotten into. I should. It seems 1021 01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:45,199 like it would scratch the trials. It sch me right and yeah, and 1022 01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:47,280 this is one I know a lot of people like. And I think it's 1023 01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:51,119 very leaderboard focused. I think it might be a strong one even if we 1024 01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:57,159 haven't played it. Yes, definitely. Uh, Willow Davis says the New 1025 01:04:57,239 --> 01:05:00,599 York Times Crossword, the Many Crossword, which is a leaderboard. I'm in. 1026 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,960 I'm actively doing right now, although I don't know why because Lucy James 1027 01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:08,840 is always gonna win. Yeah, it's it's still fun. I enjoyed that. 1028 01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:11,320 Like I've been saying, it's just me and Baco are kind of going 1029 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,760 back and forth with our old man times. Cass Buck Russ has just caused 1030 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,559 three. I don't remember the leaderboards and just cast three will interesting. I 1031 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,239 wonder if it's like destroying basses in a certain line. I mean, there's 1032 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,440 a lot of things that could be leaderboard in that game, so it having 1033 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,679 that is smart. Yeah, I'll see if someone brings up the other one. 1034 01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,079 I'm thinking of that. This reminds me of but uh Freedom MC liberty 1035 01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:36,000 Ball says Diablo two. Yeah, it's interesting because like season content and Diablo 1036 01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:40,360 is a big part of those games, and almost never really how I think 1037 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:45,360 about playing those games necessarily, It's just it has never been my approach. 1038 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,360 I kind of just play them and like I'm gonna level up a class of 1039 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,159 a friend and do that. But there is a whole leaderboard, you know, 1040 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,360 seasonal thing there that a lot of people are into with those games. 1041 01:05:55,559 --> 01:06:00,039 That's cool. Let's see here input name here, says Mario Kart eight Deluxe, 1042 01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:05,320 which I think this is like the uh Time Trials sort of thing. 1043 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,239 And you can a like share ghost data and things like that. That's that's 1044 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,039 pretty cool. How robust is it? Like, do you literally see the 1045 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,840 leader board of your friends? Done much of this? Yeah? I don't 1046 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,119 know. This is kind of makes me curious to maybe go check that out, 1047 01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:21,880 but I have not done a lot of that. Interesting. Let's see 1048 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,400 JD Camp says chess dot Com. Yeah, you could be the number one 1049 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,280 chess player in the world. Just go for you start there for you. 1050 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,440 Yeah, we go. Doctor Ryan says Donkey Kong and has a picture here 1051 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,199 of Steve Weeby from the King of Kong. I'm a favorite video games, 1052 01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:41,840 you know that? Yeah, that's right? Was it was it that cameo 1053 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,320 or was that like just an as long ago as as my friend was just 1054 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,920 at like cees or something, and he was there and he tried to get 1055 01:06:49,719 --> 01:06:54,079 we be to say, Mike Manati is my favorite video gamer, and we'd 1056 01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,880 be looked at cameras, goes Mike Manati is my favorite video game. That 1057 01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:02,119 video somewhere it always makes me laugh. That's perfect. Two time champ Beef 1058 01:07:02,159 --> 01:07:06,880 Hammer says Astro's play Room. Yeah, yeah, the elden Ring. Will 1059 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:12,960 five says speed running Super Mario sixty four with shay Man not a bad idea. 1060 01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:16,039 I still gotta have shn te. Yeah, we'll start a route. 1061 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,679 We will. We'll do that on Giant Bunks and Dan wants to do that 1062 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:24,800 too, and I do too as well. Joyz says Cruise in USA and 1063 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,559 the Arcade, Yeah, you would be like arcade games that come to mind 1064 01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:29,920 for like like actually trying to get on the leader board. I mean like 1065 01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:31,559 a lot of them can right, I mean, oh sure, yeah, 1066 01:07:31,639 --> 01:07:36,559 yeah. But again it's like I always never really took those seriously because like 1067 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,719 all the arcades here, I just felt like they would get unplugged in those 1068 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,519 leader boards would change exactly anyway. So I never took them too seriously. 1069 01:07:44,719 --> 01:07:46,239 It was fun to put my name in, is how I felt about it, 1070 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,880 for sure. My girlfriend in high school, herd dad had a pinball 1071 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,719 machine in the basement, and that was one that I was like, Okay, 1072 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,360 well, I know this is going to be here, so I'll try 1073 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,679 to get a higher and higher score. And they had like a whiteboard or 1074 01:07:58,719 --> 01:08:00,639 something. I would you Eventually I did have any score on that, and 1075 01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:05,239 that was fun. Uh screaming Madden. I has Madden twenty three here, 1076 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:11,760 which it's incredible. There there you go. I'm trying to see how they 1077 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,280 actually do this. It's like blitz percentage. Is that how it's ready to 1078 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,960 do? Okay? Yeah, uh unique dent to fits of plays cool. 1079 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,800 That's a good leader board right there. Nothing to shoot for. Yep, 1080 01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:27,359 Boomer will destroy Ganadorf has geometry awards here. That's uh man, that fox 1081 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,199 right, and that's that's right. I think these leaderboards did get screwed by 1082 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:34,840 Blake cheaters to the point where there's like this person has eight what is that 1083 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:42,359 quint tillion something ridiculous? Oh no, yep, uh Terry Yaki Blues says 1084 01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:46,399 star Fox sixty four. Uh god, that's right. You could like your 1085 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,720 hits in that game. Okay? Interesting, Fox said, is number one 1086 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:57,520 with one hundred hits. Dick Turbo says pac Man just looks like yeah, 1087 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,800 And I definitely had after a lot of these games came out. I would 1088 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,960 do a thing on Twitter where we call it be a Dick mode where we're 1089 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,520 like, Okay, this week, we're all gonna try to set the high 1090 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,840 score and something like Frogger, and we would play Frogger and try to set 1091 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,720 the high score in that. So we definitely had examples to playing these old 1092 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,079 arcade games for high scores. But it is there's something a little bit better 1093 01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:18,079 when it's like built in, and like what Geometry Wars does is you can 1094 01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:21,640 like see the name of the person above you in the top left and that 1095 01:09:23,119 --> 01:09:28,960 rules. Let's see Nolan has like guitar Hero. I think, yeah, 1096 01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:31,920 this would be Guitar Hero. Yeah, yeah, that was fun. I 1097 01:09:32,079 --> 01:09:34,520 think I usually played it more like, Okay, if I get five stars, 1098 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,960 I'm happy, and then you know, maybe I think about the score 1099 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,239 a little bit beyond that. But it was good. It was there. 1100 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,319 Tober says pac Mand Champion CHAMPIONI excuse me, Championship Edition d X plus, 1101 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:49,600 that's the one we have up there. I think I might put a two 1102 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,760 in there, but yes, that's what we were thinking of. Edimy Mouse 1103 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:58,000 says super meat Boy. Yeah, that was one where it's an example of 1104 01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:00,399 kind of what happened happened to be with me on one where I would fixate 1105 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,560 on so many levels, like so many specific levels that I don't think I 1106 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,960 ever actually ended up beating super meat Boy if I right, if I did, 1107 01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:10,560 because I will go look tough. There's like dark World stages and stuff 1108 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,520 like that, and they get more more difficult, and I would just spend 1109 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,279 hours playing a couple of levels. It's one of the first ones I can 1110 01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:18,600 think of that really did do the whole kind of small levels and when you 1111 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,359 like die or restart, it's incredibly quick or right stantaneous, Yes, instantaneous. 1112 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,880 So it definitely kind of was a pioneer in that it probably should be 1113 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,600 considered. Yeah, show g Cooto has Trials HD, which is definitely something 1114 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,560 I would consider. I would probably put Trials Evolution up there, I think, 1115 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,000 but yeah, I think that's right. But yeah, one of these 1116 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,079 Trials games, the Trials games are so good for leaderboard chasing is such a 1117 01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:48,319 complicated, uh kind of platforming game, trying to get these motorcycles to behave 1118 01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:54,279 in a way to get over a specifically a particularly difficult jump, and you 1119 01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:56,960 get to a point where, like some of these longer, more complicated levels 1120 01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:00,720 have several jumps you have to nail perfectly and getting a run where you get 1121 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,000 all of those in a row and it actually feels good and you didn't crash, 1122 01:11:03,079 --> 01:11:06,279 so you can be at the top of the leaderboard without a penalty. 1123 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,079 It was those are like miraculous events. It feels really good to play those 1124 01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:14,359 games. I think Super Mean Boy and Charles HD also both like just like 1125 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,039 big Boy versions of what were flash games originally. Oh yeah, totally. 1126 01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:21,079 It's interesting how so much of the early you know in DC and and Xbox 1127 01:11:21,159 --> 01:11:25,680 Live Ricade was just that, right BEHEMI was the same thing kind of just 1128 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,720 spiritual Successor's two Arcade games. In a lot of ways, Stinky has Rocket 1129 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,760 League one there. I'm not sure like the leaderboards would work, but just 1130 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,960 like definitely like trying to climb up ladders there would be fine. And here's 1131 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,399 another game that realized that blue and orange look good together. Yep. Burnout 1132 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,760 Paradise is also one that literally the next one as well also has blue and 1133 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,800 orange. And this is the one I was thinking of earlier, where like 1134 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,439 this has so many of those tiny leaderboards in an open world where it's like, 1135 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,840 Okay, who can get the fastest time on this street? Cool? 1136 01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:01,399 Or who can get the highest speed on this street? And stuff like that. 1137 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,760 That ruled that was a ton of fun. I kind of wish like 1138 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,359 I kind of want to just go back there and play that, But it'll 1139 01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:10,319 be more fun if like a bunch of us were playing it. Maybe we 1140 01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:14,560 could do that some day. Uh, Big Tony has Let's see if I 1141 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,680 can see this punch out Yes, Speedrun dot Com one of my favorite leader 1142 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,560 board games that I spent a lot of time trying to do. Uh. 1143 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:27,520 Cf Bop twenty five says three D pinball space cadet for windows. They had 1144 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,680 the little built in separate window leaderboard on there. Good job on your scores 1145 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,000 there. Somebody has had to have made an actual table of this at some 1146 01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:38,560 point, right, I don't know that, guy. I figured that'd be 1147 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,520 kind of complicatedout it, But you're right though. To give me actual three 1148 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,600 D pinball space kiddet table, it would be amazing. It looks great, 1149 01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:50,279 uh, vander Lyles says PGA two or golf two. Guy, I love 1150 01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:54,079 sports games when they're sold that they didn't have the year. They still had 1151 01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:59,279 steel numbers too. It's the second golf game. Yeah, go go, 1152 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,119 go for it. The leaderboard would literally be the leaderboard of you playing golf. 1153 01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:10,000 There. Resident Evil Cririsis says Dance Dance Revolution. There was definitely a 1154 01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:14,399 time when my friend got this and we were spending basically all summer at his 1155 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,920 house playing DDR and trying to get better and better scores, and that it 1156 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,079 was very fun to get good at DDR and be competitive. But we would 1157 01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:25,680 always think we would mostly play like head to head is how we would do 1158 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,239 it, and that would be a lot of fun to try to see who 1159 01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:32,359 get the highest score in that moment. Riz Racer Beyond says Frogger, and 1160 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:38,239 then has, of course the picture of the Seinfeld episode of Frogger one. 1161 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,159 What's fun funny about that is I remember back then, like I felt like 1162 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,039 major media talked about video games so rarely that even the fact that even if 1163 01:13:45,039 --> 01:13:48,279 though it was Frogger, I was like, I can't believe Seinfeld's talking about 1164 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:54,000 video I know exactly. I also I also thought, yeah, I also 1165 01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:59,079 think about this scene all the time whenever I'm crossing a busy street in the 1166 01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:01,399 handout and everything I do. Like Frogger. That's one of my favorite classic 1167 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,079 arcade games. It's always fair. There was we had a we had a 1168 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:08,279 Frogger machineut or pizza Hut when I was a kid. It's great, ye 1169 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,880 Frog, Like it just plays exactly like you wanted to and it feels good. 1170 01:14:13,159 --> 01:14:15,640 Alex has a beat saber on there, which when you get good at 1171 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,640 that, that is a lot of fun. But that's one where it's like 1172 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,279 I'm kind of competing against myself to see, like what the most challenging stages 1173 01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:27,800 that I can complete. Yeah. Absolutely. Weezeman has ski Free, which 1174 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,520 had a similar thing to a three D space cadet the pinball table. Bay 1175 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:42,199 Leaf Moon has Banjo Kazoui that Banjo Dowey I think it's disaster buy Lea says, 1176 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,279 is this a guitar Hero like a later guitar Hero. It looks like 1177 01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:48,600 a Guitar Hero two situation. Perhaps the rock band that's rock band. Okay, 1178 01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:51,159 wow, never mind, you're right, or a rock band. Thank 1179 01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:59,239 you, Bop, you're hearing that like always Laos scene says Astrobot, probably 1180 01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:04,079 referencing astro Playroom. Dumnal Crossing says Metroid Prime Pinball. Oh god, I 1181 01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:08,239 want to play some Metro Prime pinball against so bad. Maybe we do some 1182 01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:10,680 leaderboard chasing on that. That would be fun. It would be fun. 1183 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,600 Actually. Oh. Hammond of Texas says Missusplosion Man, misplosh Man. Excuse 1184 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,800 me, man, I haven't thought about Misplosion Man in a while. Wow. 1185 01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:23,000 I love explosion Man, and I think I played some misplosure Man. 1186 01:15:23,039 --> 01:15:27,640 They're both very good. There's a series I have not considered amount platformers where 1187 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,119 like the way like you can get around is you know, you can run, 1188 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:33,520 but your character can also explode and that helps you get to higher platforms. 1189 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:40,399 It's a good time. Vision forty nine says Merror's Edge, the speed 1190 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,000 run built right into the game. Yeah, God, I love mers that 1191 01:15:44,279 --> 01:15:46,279 that throws before loop. Still Dan record is in like Mirror's Edge, I 1192 01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:50,039 wonder if that's what he would change his mind on today. Probably, Yeah, 1193 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,720 God, what a great game. I don't know, I don't know 1194 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,920 why, like the further I get away from the three sixty era, Like 1195 01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:00,920 I think my two favorites used to be very easily BioShock and read their Redemption 1196 01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:04,199 one. I still really really really like those games, but like Mirror's Edge, 1197 01:16:04,279 --> 01:16:08,840 is it only ever kind of increases in my estimation. There's something so 1198 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,000 pure about that game. And yeah, like the lead bar experience is very 1199 01:16:12,039 --> 01:16:14,560 good in that so I thought that'd be a fun game to just speed run 1200 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,319 in general as well. Ye, Lenny Astro Dick Temvert says pac Man. 1201 01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:20,960 I believe it could be misspack Man, but I think it's pac Man. 1202 01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:25,359 Well pac Man, Yep, pac Man's a good one. Pacmine's one where 1203 01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:29,159 it's like I would love the idea of like playing the original and for score 1204 01:16:29,239 --> 01:16:31,079 chasing, but realizing that there's like an optimal way to play, like to 1205 01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:35,039 understand that the game is solved often discourages me, even though of course I'm 1206 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,199 never going to be that good at I'd want to do miss pac Man instead. 1207 01:16:39,239 --> 01:16:44,159 I think yep, B says Diablo two. I get like, so, 1208 01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:46,640 like, well, how is this working? Is it like getting like 1209 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,399 I see it's like ranked by experience points? Yeah, again, like I 1210 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,399 never really played the game that ways, I don't entirely know exactly how it 1211 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,159 does work, to be honest, I know, like in Diablo three, 1212 01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:00,640 like because there are some kind of like dune system that would get progressively harder. 1213 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,239 So it was like what, what like level did you get in your 1214 01:17:03,319 --> 01:17:06,760 riffs or whatever it was perhaps, yeah, it wasn't really ever, how 1215 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:14,000 I played these games. Interesting, let's see here he's our z arc, 1216 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,119 says hit Man, which yeah, that does. There's a great score system 1217 01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:20,920 in there, and and trying to like I always do realize like once I 1218 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,319 get through a level and be like, oh yeah, I see my friends 1219 01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:27,560 scores, I'm gonna go in there and try to do a perfect run and 1220 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,920 never be seen like Silent Assassin and all that stuff, and like Silent Assassin 1221 01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:35,319 in the suit without ever changing your clothes things like that and those that's a 1222 01:17:35,359 --> 01:17:38,880 lot of fun. I have a good time with that. I do what 1223 01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:41,119 with those games? It was least the way I played, so it is 1224 01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:44,760 there's so many just challenges to do that I usually am just doing those sure 1225 01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:48,079 instead of I thinking like I gotta beat my friends time necessarily, right, 1226 01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:50,960 But it's it is one of those options. It's like, oh yeah, 1227 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,279 that's in there as well, and it's very good and it's and it's you 1228 01:17:55,319 --> 01:17:58,199 know, it's not it's about time obviously, but it's also about you know, 1229 01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:00,600 just like playing the most optimal way and avoiding detection things like that. 1230 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,159 I would enjoy doing a silent Assassin suit only like full run of assassination and 1231 01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:11,000 be so fun. Great is that? So? Is that shakes? You 1232 01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:16,479 can see shakesan my guy's crazy. Adam Asleep says Mario Golf World Tour that 1233 01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:20,479 the servers are off three ds right. I don't mean, you know what 1234 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,640 doesn't matter because there's the fan service you can log into by using that DNS. 1235 01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:28,800 Then we should do a tournament of Mario Golf World Tour. That game 1236 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:34,600 rules. Michael Riley says that Nintendo World Championships any s edition and then crosses 1237 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:40,159 it out because it has the one leaderboard in there. Art. Yeah, 1238 01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:44,039 that's that says something man makes you think, boy, if it just Honestly, 1239 01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:46,199 if it just had like a few more leaderboards, like okay, the 1240 01:18:46,359 --> 01:18:49,640 leaderboard for all of like Anys, or just any single thing that had your 1241 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:55,399 friends on there, that would be great. Matt in the rear Zindless Zone 1242 01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:00,279 says, Hop says track Media, but Hop on track Media. Yeah, 1243 01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:02,960 track Mania does look incredible. It looks very similar to Trials. It's where 1244 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,000 we never played that game. It looks very fun. Yeah, Trials was 1245 01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:09,239 just like whenever I got to urge for a game like this, I just 1246 01:19:09,279 --> 01:19:11,960 go to Trials instead. I know they're not exactly the same, but the 1247 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:17,600 same concept in my brain. Daniel says Neon White, let's see, and 1248 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,640 then Christian says, Devil Daggers. That's a good one, Christian. I 1249 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,279 never could get good enough at Devil Daggers so good. I never played the 1250 01:19:25,359 --> 01:19:28,239 sequels. The sequel is not that good. I think, well, yes, 1251 01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:33,279 it was a kind of It's just got such a very specific scoring system 1252 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,960 that it requires you to play it its way, and I could never get 1253 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,319 on its wavelength. And then I would watch some people who are at the 1254 01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:44,039 top of the leader board and it looked like they had turned into gods, 1255 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,760 like the way that they were playing that game. It was nuts. All 1256 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,199 right, Mike, I'm gonna go back to the list and I'm going to 1257 01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:56,880 add Trials Evolution, Uh what was Oh yeah, Trackmnia, trac Mania, 1258 01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:02,840 super Meat Boy, I think Burn Up, Paradise Consideration, yes, and 1259 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,520 perhaps Mirrors Edge as well. What do you think about all the music games? 1260 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,520 What do you want to do about those? Because let's it's just like 1261 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,680 not again, not how I ever really played those games, but I think 1262 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:19,880 those were a big deal. They mattered. Yeah, I'm what is like, 1263 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,279 what would be like the top one to put in there? Because like 1264 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:28,640 part of me rock band? Yeah, I guess, I guess. So 1265 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:30,760 all right, it is weird because there's like it could be a lot of 1266 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,640 them, right, it really could be, right, I guess Guitar Hero 1267 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,439 is number one. I don't know. Yeah, let's go with to Guitar 1268 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,199 Hero. There we gouse that one. I think I did do a little 1269 01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:44,760 bit of Leaderboart chasing in that. All right, So the short list is 1270 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,239 Neon White, Astro's Playroom, Geometry, Wars, Retrovolve Too, Pacland Championship 1271 01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:53,439 addition to d OR Championship, d X plus. I mean I do that 1272 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:58,119 right there? Trial's Evolution Track, Madeia, Super meat Boy, Burnout, 1273 01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:00,359 Paradise, Mirror's Edge, Guitar Hero. We want to put a classic arcade 1274 01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:06,119 game in here, it doesn't Again, I think I think what you said 1275 01:21:06,119 --> 01:21:10,199 about like the fact that you always thought your times were going to get reset, 1276 01:21:10,319 --> 01:21:14,920 kind of meant that unless you were on a global level, it didn't 1277 01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:16,800 It didn't matter so much. In fact, it didn't matter, like your 1278 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:21,239 scorees were not going yeah. So, and then I guess maybe if you 1279 01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:25,680 had a regular place that you could count on to keep your scores. I 1280 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:30,800 don't know, but I just don't think many people had that experience. Okay 1281 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,319 for me, I think, like you know, I think Neon White is 1282 01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:38,720 definitely up there. Yeah. I think Astro's play Room is just like it's 1283 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,680 so important to game mess lore at this point that it should be on there, 1284 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,880 right, And I do honestly think it's maybe the platonic ideal of of 1285 01:21:46,279 --> 01:21:49,880 what what speed running should be like. Like I going forward, I think 1286 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:55,319 every three D platformer should have the exact same mode that Astro's play Room did, 1287 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,920 almost verbatim, like almost like point for points. It should be eight 1288 01:21:59,039 --> 01:22:02,159 levels maybe no, maybe no motion control levels. But whatever, like otherwise, 1289 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,479 yes, it would make every game like that better. A couple of 1290 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,800 things from Chat first off, like some classic ar case and people were upset 1291 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,680 about Donkey Kong. But it's like, like that's because of that movie, 1292 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,319 not because I competed in it, not because you competed in it. And 1293 01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:23,359 I could see an argument for like like watching those people compete in it, 1294 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,039 and that movie was incredible, But I don't know. I feel like if 1295 01:22:27,039 --> 01:22:31,000 you need a documentary team to discover the value of the leaderboard chase, I 1296 01:22:31,039 --> 01:22:35,600 think that's a bit that's asking a bit much. Yeah, ton X pro 1297 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,039 Skater came up from Chat than no one else mentioned. I don't know. 1298 01:22:39,079 --> 01:22:42,079 If I did a ton of that with Tony X pro Skater two on the 1299 01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:46,319 Dreamcast with my friends, not sixty four, well tonks pro Skater two that 1300 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,439 was come on, that would be gross. Well it felt good on n 1301 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,000 sixty four and I did play that in sixty four, but when I was 1302 01:22:54,039 --> 01:22:57,239 with my friends we were playing the Dreamcast version. Uh, those sea buttons 1303 01:22:57,279 --> 01:23:01,319 are just fine, Like people overstate the problem. Okay, yeah, listen, 1304 01:23:01,399 --> 01:23:04,239 I total was firstcat. I think it's definitely worth calling out here. 1305 01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:06,039 But I don't. I don't think it's going to make the final list. 1306 01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:09,720 I mean I do, la. There is something about being online that this 1307 01:23:10,039 --> 01:23:12,760 kind of better with for your leaderboards, and I think that's kind of what 1308 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,479 we were almost getting at when we were talking about leaderboard games. Is online 1309 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,960 leader boards to a certain extent, And yeah, it does. It's a 1310 01:23:19,039 --> 01:23:23,640 huge advantage, and I think that the lot of these games do take advantage 1311 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,399 of that. Okay, this, this is tough. At this point, 1312 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,279 I would probably want either pac Man or Geometry Wars up there. I think, 1313 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,880 yeah, I definitely think one of them. I think Geometry Wars kind 1314 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:39,880 of did it first, and some of the maybe Geometry Wars, maybe Geometry 1315 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:45,199 Wars. Yeah, I think pac Man might be a slightly more I mean, 1316 01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:47,960 not better, but more pure, but only slightly. And I think 1317 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:54,119 you're right geomet Wars being first means that it's uh enough. I're saying that 1318 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,199 that he thinks pac Man did it first. Oh no, who did it 1319 01:23:57,279 --> 01:24:01,920 first? I think no. Geometry War like one was like right there at 1320 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,319 the launch of the three sixty right well, that that's why I was thrown 1321 01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:10,520 off even in Messy Pin was Geometry Warres retro Vaal two thousand and eight. 1322 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,520 I was like, I thought Geometry Wars was like one of the first three 1323 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,399 sixty arcade games. Maybe that first one didn't have the leaderboard thing. I 1324 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,399 think, oh, fires was talking about original pac Man. No fuck that, 1325 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:27,039 Okay, we're good, Yeah, you got us all right, let's 1326 01:24:27,039 --> 01:24:30,760 see here. Uh. And then I don't know because I could put it 1327 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,520 up Trial's Evolution. I could put up Yeah, that's the one I would 1328 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,359 put up next. But what do you want to what do you think? 1329 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:41,720 Yeah, like not Mirror's Edge. It's so similar to Neon White and White. 1330 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,359 It's like a game b more around it for me. Super Meat Boys 1331 01:24:45,359 --> 01:24:49,479 interesting. It's interesting because again it's like that real small level experience. Then 1332 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:55,159 I think a lot of things would later do Burnout Paradise. The way it 1333 01:24:55,199 --> 01:24:59,319 was kind of built into the world is interesting. Also, I think it's 1334 01:24:59,359 --> 01:25:02,439 either track me your Trial's Evolution, because what those both do is you're in 1335 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,600 the stage with the ghosts you're trying to beat and track maybe it's like a 1336 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,319 bunch of ghosts of data, like it's a ton of players all at the 1337 01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:14,319 same time. And then in Trial's Evolution it's you can like pick like the 1338 01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:16,399 next ghost you want to go after, and a lot of times you like 1339 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,600 want to pick number one on your friend leader board and just race them head 1340 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,520 to head, or you know, you can have your your best time data 1341 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,359 and you could beat that as well, and just kind of seeing that stuff 1342 01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:30,720 in the game was so well done and that like feeds into the leader boards. 1343 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,319 It's such a strong way. It is, this peanut butter and jelly 1344 01:25:32,359 --> 01:25:36,800 situation that it should probably be one of those. I think it maybe should 1345 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,920 be track many. You think I want to trust the community a little. 1346 01:25:40,039 --> 01:25:42,079 Yeah, I'm okay with that. Yes, I think so. I think 1347 01:25:43,279 --> 01:25:45,159 to me, it sounds like that is the the more popular version of that 1348 01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:48,319 idea, even though I love trials. I think that's kind of what's happening 1349 01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:51,279 here. What's going on? I saw that see by the way, yes, 1350 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:57,520 trying to hit control CE and then the pinky didn't work? All right, 1351 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,079 this looks This looks looks right to me. Yeah, okay, when 1352 01:26:01,079 --> 01:26:05,920 do you read our mount Rushmore? Here of the Mount Rushmore of leaderboard games 1353 01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:12,239 is an Eon White Astros Playroom Geometry wars wretchedly both to and track Mania. 1354 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,119 I like it me too. Let's go ahead, and Wars is definitely the 1355 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:24,520 the George Washington. Yes, I think so too. I'm gonna tweet that 1356 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,439 list with just geometry Wars showing so people actually have to listen to the show. 1357 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,760 It's interesting. You're smart. I think I saw you doing that. 1358 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,600 I'm learning to undred, like dozens of times of doing this, but eventually 1359 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:43,680 I learned pretty good about baby. Let's go taking another break. Christian, 1360 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,079 Oh god, I got another fucking tweet something like, oh, the liquid 1361 01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:51,359 deaf is for recovering alcoholics. It's not dumb. Oh, oh my god, 1362 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:57,920 why do you need alcoholics? He does, but that's going to turn 1363 01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:05,159 turned to the joker. All right, let's go ahead and take one last 1364 01:27:05,239 --> 01:27:08,600 break. When we come back, we'll talk about what we've been playing, 1365 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,600 and then we'll get an update on what's happening in the Fantasy critically right after 1366 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:19,920 this. All right, we're back and our sky Rizzler needs a nappy poos. 1367 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,760 So, Mike, what have you been playing? Let's get through this. 1368 01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,920 Well, you know, it has been any S World Championship, honestly, 1369 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,039 and I'm excited to play more of that. And the other big thing 1370 01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:33,760 has been Final Fantasy six, which again very good. But I did start 1371 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:38,359 Dark Souls for the first time. I think we talked about that a little 1372 01:27:38,399 --> 01:27:41,399 bit on Less than Ten Dogs. Yeah, even though you know, I'm 1373 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,960 not playing this switch version, but I've been having phone with that. I 1374 01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:47,880 did the is this Gargoyle boss and a first leg wasn't too bad, and 1375 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,840 then a second gargoyle show up, so I was like my first like, 1376 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,039 ooh, this boss has taken me more than ten tries kind of thing. 1377 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,359 Sure, right, and it's like, you know, Dark's old guy at 1378 01:27:59,359 --> 01:28:02,079 the top of the but yes, yeah, yeah, the Dark Souls is 1379 01:28:02,079 --> 01:28:04,640 a little bit meaner with like the run backs. Right, even though it 1380 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,960 wasn't a terrible one, I don't necessarily mind that because you know, it 1381 01:28:09,079 --> 01:28:11,359 does build tension, right, like oh, like you know, maybe you're 1382 01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:13,399 not going to make it back to the bus, maybe you're not going to 1383 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,119 even be able to get your souls back and all that stuff. Is the 1384 01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:17,760 run back the kind of thing where you can run past most of the most 1385 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,560 of the bad guys or do you get the money at least a little specific 1386 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:26,079 one here, it was like pretty like like at one point it was a 1387 01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:29,640 tight hallway that opened up to a room with like ten Scalton people. So 1388 01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:32,520 yeah, you know, like I'll fight them, why not, it's gorn 1389 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,840 to fight them. Yes, the game so I've been enjoying it. I 1390 01:28:36,119 --> 01:28:39,520 already get what everybody sees in the game. It's a lot of fun. 1391 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,800 So the runback is harder because you you whenever you die, you you lose 1392 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,319 live, you lose your your HP, like your your life bar is shorter. 1393 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,479 So like I guess you guess what guess tense? Yeah, you lose 1394 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,560 your well the first time, but you lose when you alive, when you 1395 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,960 have like what are you saying? When you are alive you have to stay 1396 01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:02,159 you're alive, and then your mbie and when you're something you have. It's 1397 01:29:04,319 --> 01:29:09,920 purposely not explaining this mechanic to me. I keep asking him about it. 1398 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,600 The humanity, that's what humanity is. Yeah, that's what humanity is. 1399 01:29:14,319 --> 01:29:18,760 Never I don't know what humanity is. Yeah, fire hair do yeah yeah, 1400 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:24,439 oh no, so that's what humanity is. My max health is lowered. 1401 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,399 I didn't even realize that it's incredible. Well there you go. It's 1402 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,399 people find out though. No, it's high humanity good or bags that was. 1403 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,000 It was pretty high for a while. No, you can. You 1404 01:29:33,079 --> 01:29:38,279 can either have humanity or not have it because like you're alive or there is 1405 01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:43,000 a number, right, I don't I don't know. I can't keep there's 1406 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,279 a number. Yeah, there's a big number humanity, all right, maybe 1407 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,720 unless humanity is water and you're always picking up humanity. It's like, all 1408 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,119 right, I just got to piece humanity. I must be human again. 1409 01:29:53,159 --> 01:29:56,119 And it's like, wait, that has nothing to do with it. To 1410 01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:00,479 get about your humanity, yeah, to be fully, you can't interesting interesting 1411 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,399 knowledge. No, yeah that was a big thing. Yeah, it's the 1412 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:08,560 same on Demon Souls or like you're either like a ghost or you're like alive, 1413 01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:13,880 so interesting. I I'm like thinking, like I was playing a little 1414 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,760 bit of Dark Souls, but I might go play Dark Souls to first actually 1415 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,039 freak well, so I'm gonna like give it its best chance to like win 1416 01:30:21,159 --> 01:30:25,960 me over, and then uh not have an idea of what Dark Souls is 1417 01:30:26,279 --> 01:30:28,800 before I play Dark Souls too, So it's like, well I don't have 1418 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,199 these preconceived notions. Yeah, I am sick for sure, but yeah, 1419 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,920 it's been fun watching you play you know what from Soft They really do just 1420 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,520 nail it. They're just really good at this. So yeah, an turns 1421 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,920 out they really did figure something out there, and it's funny to see it 1422 01:30:43,039 --> 01:30:45,720 like from Demon Souls, like coming out like being like this kind of like 1423 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,279 niche, like like something that like the game journalists were talking about, and 1424 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:55,800 just becoming the biggest game ever slowly after times. It's a it's it's nice 1425 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,119 that it it should work like that, right, and it's nice to see 1426 01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:01,560 it work like that. Well be trend Warlock and Chat says jeff I cannot 1427 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,479 recommend against that tactic enough, which just makes me want to do it more. 1428 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,439 People don't know how to talk to Jeffy. You do not know how 1429 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,800 to talk to me. I am sick. You have to know that. 1430 01:31:12,399 --> 01:31:15,399 Yeah, the same like where it's like any s a World Championship and then 1431 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,239 a little bit of Dark Souls, a few other things here or there, 1432 01:31:18,279 --> 01:31:23,439 but not much. I did play Concord. Oh, I want to play 1433 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,520 that tomorrow because the open now, right, so if you want to stall 1434 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,880 exactly, so, yes, it's it's it's okay. I don't I definitely 1435 01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,560 don't hate it. But it's just like I've said other places, it hasn't 1436 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:38,319 won me over to the point where it's like I kind of it would be 1437 01:31:38,399 --> 01:31:40,800 hard for me to be to get MI. Oh, I'm gonna go spend 1438 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,239 forty dollars on it, or tell friends to go spend forty dollars on it 1439 01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:46,000 so they can play with me. I don't feel that way about it for 1440 01:31:46,279 --> 01:31:48,600 sure, but I'm not coming out of it being like I hate it. 1441 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,159 I think there's parts of it where it didn't feel fun to play. I 1442 01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:54,880 found a character that does feel fun to play, so clearly it can do 1443 01:31:55,039 --> 01:31:58,239 that. People were like kind of going back and forth because it's like, 1444 01:31:58,279 --> 01:32:00,039 oh, it's got Bungee pedigree, It's BUNGEI, and then other people are 1445 01:32:00,079 --> 01:32:03,279 like, yeah, but it's the bunch of pedigree of people that made like 1446 01:32:03,399 --> 01:32:08,479 the stuff that people hated the worst, and Destiny Cho's multiplayer mode, and 1447 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,800 it's like, oh, okay, well shit, I don't know anymore people 1448 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,720 that make that bit is right, right, yeah exactly. So it's whatever. 1449 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,800 I don't really care about that much. I'm gonna judge this game based 1450 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:23,199 on what it is, and it is better than I thought it would be 1451 01:32:23,239 --> 01:32:27,720 in some ways and yet still kind of disappointing overall. Based on what little 1452 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:33,359 I've played, so I play a lot of this game during the weekends. 1453 01:32:33,359 --> 01:32:35,720 She just I don't know. I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna 1454 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:41,079 play Concord. And this game makes a horrible first impression because it's also't have 1455 01:32:41,119 --> 01:32:45,000 a tutorial or anything at least in this betas. And then how to play 1456 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,079 doesn't really it's just text. I read the entire thing and I how to 1457 01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:53,920 play. It still doesn't kind of shows you very well how the game works. 1458 01:32:54,199 --> 01:32:58,439 And this game is like, yeah, there's like two types of games 1459 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,479 is chess and checker, and this game is like more chess than checkers. 1460 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,800 But like they don't tell you that. This game is like you have to 1461 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:09,920 play slower and like in team and it's like, oh, yeah, you 1462 01:33:10,039 --> 01:33:15,520 have like you need to play certain type of like characters to counter these other 1463 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,640 character and they never said that on the game. It's like yeah, just 1464 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:24,399 like it's surprisingly hard counters and there is a lot more going on, like 1465 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:29,640 that mushroom character, like being able to build buffs across the entire map, 1466 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,279 and unless the other team is destroying that, like that can get very powerful 1467 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,880 very fast. People will learn that stuff. That's how these games work over 1468 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,079 time. So it is a little bit. That's why I'm like hesitant with 1469 01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:44,479 this game, because I think it could feel very different in the next couple 1470 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,800 of weeks or you know, a couple of weeks after it comes out, 1471 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:50,359 once people fully understand it and everyone's playing it different. But as it is 1472 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:55,119 right now, yeah, the fundamentals, I just don't think it feels great. 1473 01:33:55,279 --> 01:33:58,680 Yeah, and you know what, I kind of want to play Overwatch 1474 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,279 too, like adding they just shut off that new character, do you know, 1475 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,920 and like it's the first character in why And like that character looks cool. 1476 01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:10,319 She looks like an eighties anime, like sci fi heroin and a lot 1477 01:34:10,399 --> 01:34:13,039 of neat ways. She just looks like a really cool design and a really 1478 01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:16,520 neat kid for a support character. So I'm like, oh my god, 1479 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:21,479 I don't I play Overwatch again. We'll see, We'll see, We'll try 1480 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:27,000 out what's that all Watch? It's on like Concord. It's like it feels 1481 01:34:27,039 --> 01:34:30,800 really you're not building to anything on that game all the time. It's like, 1482 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,920 oh, you know, in you know what, you can like turn 1483 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,760 around a match with like a really nice coordination with your team and your ultimate 1484 01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:42,600 This game doesn't have that. You just had to be good from the beginning. 1485 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,439 It has to come back mechanic. They of course they don't explain that. 1486 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,279 It's like crew bonuses, which means every time you play a character, 1487 01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:54,159 that character has like a fucking buff. They could give it to yourself then 1488 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,680 yes, and you changed characters. You can like have a double buff or 1489 01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,199 whatever buff and the old buff. They're encouraging you to change characters, encourage 1490 01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:03,000 you, but they don't say that, and like, you don't know, 1491 01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:05,760 there's some modes where you have to change characters because there's it's you know, 1492 01:35:06,119 --> 01:35:10,800 when you don't say the character or like the next round. I guess I 1493 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,720 don't know if it carries over between it. But the character you just pick, 1494 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,720 like they the band the character. If your team wins, yes, 1495 01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,239 yes, And the thing is like do you do you realize there's a crew 1496 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:25,920 like crew manager or like it's a crew builder whatever, crew maker, yeah, 1497 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,479 crew maker. In this game, you can get to the same character 1498 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,000 a couple of times, like you can get like a repeat of the character. 1499 01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:35,760 They have to different passive. It has different passives, so you can 1500 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,880 have like three different of those characters. And whenever you pick that character and 1501 01:35:40,039 --> 01:35:42,680 win, if you have a copy of that in that crew thing, you 1502 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,880 can pick it again and you won't like but like they don't show that. 1503 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,800 Yeah, but it's and also like, man, are people going to be 1504 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:53,680 playing this game like that? I guess, I guess the people that are 1505 01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,359 really going to be into it, I suppose will be building their personal crews 1506 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,680 that they take into each match and on the game mode, that will matter 1507 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,560 or it won't because in like the general one that we were playing at first, 1508 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,159 until you get to the level six or whatever, that stuff doesn't seem 1509 01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:11,119 to matter at all. So yeah, it's it's it's a weird game that 1510 01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:13,960 I think is going to feel very different a couple of weeks after it comes 1511 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,600 out, and I will be curious about it, but I'm not excited about 1512 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,119 it in any real way. You know what, Gino reminds me of the 1513 01:36:20,119 --> 01:36:26,159 steal Overwatch character? Remember uh remember that meet that animated music video for that 1514 01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:31,479 one song by the Sorry I can't remember the Tron Legacy composers Daft Punk. 1515 01:36:33,039 --> 01:36:39,359 Actually, Mike's right, he is right on that. Yes, you know 1516 01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:41,840 what I'm talking You know what music video I'm talking about. Yeah, but 1517 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,279 also just calling them the Tron Legacy, I know you know, Mike, 1518 01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:48,359 but I have to say it for the people. There are so many people 1519 01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,439 yelling at their podcast player right now. They're right too. I'm sorry. 1520 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,640 I'm gonna lie. It's kind of the best, their best stuff from that 1521 01:36:56,239 --> 01:37:00,439 movie again the Rules. For sure. I associate done with that and Y 1522 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,880 T, M and D because people use that working Harder song and their early 1523 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:09,600 internet memes a lot of time. I associate them with TNAMI. When on 1524 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,279 an early to Nomi they were played, they played the animated film that they 1525 01:37:13,359 --> 01:37:15,319 made for one of their albums, which I was talking about. Yeah, 1526 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,319 oh the animated Oh wait, oh that stuff's not that stuff from way before 1527 01:37:20,399 --> 01:37:25,359 Tron Legacy. No. But why why I brought them up is because that's 1528 01:37:25,359 --> 01:37:28,399 what Juna reminds me of, is the animated thing they did. Oh okay, 1529 01:37:28,399 --> 01:37:30,399 I haven't looked at Juno. I thought you said they remind you of 1530 01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:35,439 daft punk, like with the helmets on and stuff. An that's what reminder 1531 01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,840 all right? Fair enough, some of the part you want to be mad 1532 01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:44,199 about people yelling at me about I was reeling from you calling them the Tron 1533 01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:50,319 Legacy composers bad. They're they're really setting themselves up for a rough one by 1534 01:37:50,359 --> 01:37:53,920 not having them. I mean, I think they're not a band anymore, 1535 01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,520 but it's rough. You're not going to have them in Tron three. Yeah, 1536 01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,520 oh yeah, for sure. Luck who ever's doing that score, it'll 1537 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,680 probably be Trent Resnor, all right, mikey, I think that's gonna do 1538 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,960 it for what we've been taught with what we've been playing. Uh, But 1539 01:38:08,119 --> 01:38:11,199 we do have one last thing. This is going to be sort of a 1540 01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,279 look inside our community where we do a Fantasy critic draft and then we've been 1541 01:38:15,359 --> 01:38:18,840 keeping up in the league throughout the year. A bunch of games have come 1542 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,600 out over the past quarter, and I think we have an update from Benji 1543 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:25,760 Bop Benji. Is there is there a visual component to this? Yes? 1544 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,039 There is? Okay, why don't you share that with me real quick and 1545 01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:32,600 we'll get that up on the screen for everybody see here, Mike, For 1546 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:38,439 what it's worth, I have never left the minds of Overwatch too, and 1547 01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:44,279 outside of content creators whining about the tanks being tanky again, the balancing is 1548 01:38:44,359 --> 01:38:46,119 pretty good right now. Yeah, it's been so long that, just like 1549 01:38:46,319 --> 01:38:49,760 multiple characters, I haven't even tried it. I never even played life Leaver 1550 01:38:50,399 --> 01:38:56,600 at this point, so you know, it's never even played life. I 1551 01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,840 have to like buy all these characters or do I not verted that you're good? 1552 01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:02,560 That was a stupid thing. But yeah, Jenna looks cool. It's 1553 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,479 a cool design. All right, it's going to be good. Let's do 1554 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:11,159 this thing though. How is it going in the Fantasy Critic League? Yes, 1555 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,960 long overdue for starters. I have not made one of these since April 1556 01:39:15,079 --> 01:39:19,079 first. I apologize for the tardiness because I know a lot of people want 1557 01:39:19,279 --> 01:39:23,119 me to talk about how good their team is. So here you go. 1558 01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:28,479 Twenty twenty four Game Mess Fantasy Critic recap from April first to July fifteenth. 1559 01:39:29,319 --> 01:39:33,439 Editor's note again, there's a lot of games that just released or had reviews, 1560 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:38,800 like ANYS Championship, Kanitsugami, a couple other ones, so scores are 1561 01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,479 kind of all over the place, sole on the site right now. I 1562 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:47,199 just want to point that out there. However, in traditional fashion, we 1563 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:53,279 do have a good bar chart, race, time lapse, whatever you want 1564 01:39:53,359 --> 01:39:55,880 to call this, Jeff, if you want to SHOUTcast, you can, 1565 01:39:56,159 --> 01:39:59,039 I can go for over No, I'll handle this, yeah, absolutely, 1566 01:39:59,279 --> 01:40:00,840 all right. There's like a five second buffer, so I'm gonna press play, 1567 01:40:01,159 --> 01:40:03,079 okay, sure, yeah, yeah, in the lead. Right now, 1568 01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:06,640 we have Doctor Lynch with fifty points out ahead, and that is where 1569 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:11,000 things are gonna start. A big pack of people right behind, including low 1570 01:40:11,079 --> 01:40:15,319 re Legend GameCube, Chris Tyler, James Bay and Razzle Jazzled only a few 1571 01:40:15,359 --> 01:40:17,239 points behind, but immediately Doctor Lynch is gonna pull out ahead a little bit 1572 01:40:17,279 --> 01:40:21,079 more before Lower re Legend catches up and surpasses with the releaser Stellar Blade. 1573 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:26,039 Stellar Blade comes out, and that's gonna shake things up. And then Haites 1574 01:40:26,079 --> 01:40:29,760 two is gonna shoot out, and that's gonna put I'm way good a Gurdorist 1575 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,000 way near the top. Although they're gonna fall behind. It's Laurla and the 1576 01:40:32,079 --> 01:40:35,439 lakes Rye comes out of nowhere and helps Doctor Lynch reclaim the lead. Matt 1577 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:40,960 Rare Monkey's right behind him, and then Teach or Teach QC makes a big 1578 01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:45,319 jump. Don Trails released though puts Teshi nineteen ninety nine in lead, doctor 1579 01:40:45,399 --> 01:40:48,720 Lynch just behind Matt Raremunkey in third. That puts us into the middle of 1580 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:54,000 June, still plenty of games to go, and then bug A Dillo jumps 1581 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,239 ahead. What game was that Mike shout of the Tree, Shadow of the 1582 01:40:57,399 --> 01:41:00,119 urg Tree helps out bug A Dillo there big times inless zone zero, then 1583 01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:03,640 moves ahead a couple of people. We're moving through July and we're catching up 1584 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,119 to today's day. Let's see how things are gonna shot out there. At 1585 01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:11,800 the end, Bugadillo with a big lead with eighty four points. Behind them 1586 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,560 is Teshi nineteen ninety nine with seventy four point five points and Doctor Lynch in 1587 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,279 third with seventy two point four. Yeah, it looks like Showy or Tree 1588 01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,920 was a big help for that one there. I'm not surprised to hear that. 1589 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:26,239 Yeah, yep, yes, thank you, Jeff. Also Turbos in 1590 01:41:26,319 --> 01:41:29,840 last Sorry Nick, Well no, he's like in like twentieth there's like eighty 1591 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:34,520 people in this game, Jeff, jesus, Yeah, no aren't we We're 1592 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:40,159 not even up there. Just coming just wait. I have a slide just 1593 01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:44,279 for you. I think it should be noted here. It's also color coded. 1594 01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,600 It's interesting to see which leagues are doing well. So like Critique Bros. 1595 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:53,199 Which is red they have the top three, and then Crazy Yeah, 1596 01:41:53,239 --> 01:41:56,319 which like the dispersion of this. You know, there's five different leagues where 1597 01:41:56,319 --> 01:42:00,319 they all have the same games, and yet still there are three people at 1598 01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:02,520 the top. That's really all for the safely all right, Well that's the 1599 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:08,880 competitive league apparently. Okay. So, speaking of notable releases of the period, 1600 01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:13,119 as Mike mentioned, Elden Ringshov the Er Tree is our top scorer of 1601 01:42:13,239 --> 01:42:16,680 the period with a ninety three point eight. And if you remember how Fantasy 1602 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:21,279 credit works, anything over ninety, each point is doubled, so three point 1603 01:42:21,399 --> 01:42:26,840 eight times two equals seven point six, which is how it scored so high. 1604 01:42:27,359 --> 01:42:30,640 Destney two the Final Shape also a high performing DLC. In our league, 1605 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,560 we do have an early access rule where if it gets scored, it 1606 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:38,159 counts, so hadis two even though it's not one point zero, it still 1607 01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:42,800 counts. With an eighty nine point eight did very well. Animal Well Paper, 1608 01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,880 Mario Lorelin, the Laser Eyes and Nine Souls are great indie gets, 1609 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,680 both in the mid to high eighties, help La two coming in at the 1610 01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:54,159 low eighties, and the other Crabs Treasure, and then of course our favorite 1611 01:42:54,199 --> 01:43:00,520 performing Nintendo franchise, Endless Ocean Luminous rounding at the bottom with a strong sixty 1612 01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,479 one point six that is worth negative eight point four points. So if you 1613 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:09,119 counterpick that, congratulations, that's more points than most games get Yeah, well 1614 01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:13,319 done, Okay, going out as good as my my skull and bones. 1615 01:43:13,399 --> 01:43:15,119 Counterpick over in the Giant Bomb League. No, no, but what could 1616 01:43:15,159 --> 01:43:18,600 be? It could be? Yeah, Mike, you keep holding onto the 1617 01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:23,199 Giant Bomb League because're not gonna like where you are you thinking about it? 1618 01:43:25,279 --> 01:43:29,239 There, You're right hold on to that one. So game ass Critiques, 1619 01:43:29,279 --> 01:43:32,000 which is Jeff's league. We have Tyler James Bay and his team rock and 1620 01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:36,199 Roll McDonald's staying put at the top of the score of sixty nine point nine 1621 01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:41,039 to two, and right behind him Sir Meetwad with a difference of point zero 1622 01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:44,600 eight, which is insane for open critic, Like, that's how close the 1623 01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,880 scores are. He's right behind him at sixty nine point eight four. Also 1624 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:56,239 shout out Crange's mcbasketball for moving up eleven point or eleven standings from his the 1625 01:43:56,359 --> 01:44:00,640 last period, and a couple of movers and shakers throughout where am I at? 1626 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:05,119 We'll get there. Last of the critique dogs, Matt Rare Monkey with 1627 01:44:05,239 --> 01:44:10,760 his team Rare Monkey dash Am two took over with a score of seventy one 1628 01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:15,000 point five, Doctor Ryan right behind him with we Bought a Publisher and then 1629 01:44:15,239 --> 01:44:20,359 one of my favorite team names, Adamize Bobby Kotik ABK moved up nine positions 1630 01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:25,680 and then hold L three and R three to Publish your Game also moved up 1631 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:30,960 nine positions. Great job to both of those publishers. Moving on to close 1632 01:44:30,039 --> 01:44:33,119 to the Messi Critic, where yours truly is not on this leader board, 1633 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:40,039 we have TEACHQC with Console Wars, Social Construct Industries moving up seven places to 1634 01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:44,640 first place with sixty six point five eight. Also shout out Taller Eco Industries 1635 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:48,399 and naw i'd Win who also moved up seven and eight positions, respectively. 1636 01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:56,159 Moving on to Critical Jeopardy. This is Turbo Shawn's League. A familiar face 1637 01:44:56,319 --> 01:45:00,680 at the top. It's beef Hammer eleven with the jan Oh Chu Choa Express 1638 01:45:01,239 --> 01:45:06,239 with fifty three point six eight points. But he is right and he has 1639 01:45:06,359 --> 01:45:10,680 his lead is like nothing fifty three point three right behind him with black Heart 1640 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:15,000 Vinyl and freshly streamed games. Also shout out Golden Deer Entertainment, War Crimes 1641 01:45:15,039 --> 01:45:20,319 and other leisurely activities and big bosses Venomous Solids and Liquids who all moved up 1642 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:26,880 seven to nine positions, so that's impressive. Finally, the last of our 1643 01:45:27,079 --> 01:45:30,720 divisions, we have the Critique Bros. Where as Guy is the captain and 1644 01:45:30,119 --> 01:45:32,640 Buggetdillo. This is the one where we got the heavy hitters. We got 1645 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:40,279 Bugdalo Teshi nineteen ninety nine and Doctor Lynch all above seventy insane numbers. And 1646 01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:45,439 then we also have a hail station with a which would be top three in 1647 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,279 any other league with a fifty point eighty four, but it's only good enough 1648 01:45:48,319 --> 01:45:56,680 for fourth here. Now, as the Critical League works in the Game Mess, 1649 01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,920 we go by the overall scores, not by de vision, so we'll 1650 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,079 have one champion, not five, and our oh top ten overall leaderboard. 1651 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:10,359 Buggadillo, Testi ninety nine and Doctor Lynch are the same three we saw earlier. 1652 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:15,000 Some big moves for Buggetdillo. Matt Raremunkey also moved up thirty positions, 1653 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,960 adamized Bobby Kottak moved right in front of Death, not Bobby Kottick, and 1654 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,760 that was a great. Forty six positions is a lot that's like half the 1655 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,680 league, so yeah, it's got on those releases. And also shout out 1656 01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,039 to Doctor Lynch, Tyler, James Bay and Lowell legend. You stayed in 1657 01:46:31,079 --> 01:46:33,960 the top ten out of like eighty people. You're still up there. So 1658 01:46:34,079 --> 01:46:36,920 even though you're moving down a couple spots, you're still near the top right 1659 01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,439 right, So it's a marathon too, because it's like, you know, 1660 01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,119 a lot of games still to come out. Oh yeah, yep, we 1661 01:46:43,239 --> 01:46:47,680 got we got a big second half. Now you've both alluded to. I 1662 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,039 think the question we're all wondering, where's Mike and Jeff, Where's Sean, 1663 01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:55,560 Where's Bob? Where's ashguy? Well, we have a captain's leaderboard here. 1664 01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,920 Turbo Sean did not have any releases, so he uh, I think final 1665 01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,039 fit he had rebirth and I think that's why he has a twenty five point 1666 01:47:04,079 --> 01:47:09,000 twelve, So he's still sitting pretty with no new releases. Jeff, your 1667 01:47:09,079 --> 01:47:12,800 team stunt Race FX on these Hose Gaming is still one of the best names 1668 01:47:13,079 --> 01:47:16,199 in the league by far. I'm definitely on the All to Name League number 1669 01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:18,680 one. Yeah, hm, yep, yeah, you're you'll be. You'll 1670 01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:23,039 be first team All Name League for sure, exactly exactly. You had Don 1671 01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:26,319 Trail, Kanitsugami and Manner Lords come out, so You're now moved up to 1672 01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:30,159 second with a twenty three point four to three. ASH Guy with his team 1673 01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:33,760 Ash Games moved up to third with helbl A two Home World three. And 1674 01:47:34,039 --> 01:47:38,119 even though it's in red, this is actually a good counterpick because Skald only 1675 01:47:38,199 --> 01:47:41,479 got three three, Right, you could get a lot worse than that. 1676 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:45,520 Yeah, so only minus three that's pretty good. And then I didn't have 1677 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,880 anything come out, so I'm just kind of chilling in fourth while you guys 1678 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:54,000 fighting. You've got really bad huh, I mean worse than you. You 1679 01:47:54,119 --> 01:47:56,960 know, it's funny you say that, Jeff, because in fifth place we 1680 01:47:57,079 --> 01:48:00,680 have Rocket Mike Adventures, uh Captain by Mike Manatti, and now you might 1681 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,520 see a red number next to his name, and at any point is good 1682 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,840 though at this point, right, that's the thing, like anything in the 1683 01:48:06,199 --> 01:48:11,520 positive size is really going to be positive for him, right, yes, 1684 01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,720 to get there first, and he hasn't had anything released. I forget what 1685 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,119 his counterpick was, but that's the only thing that's My counterpick was Rise of 1686 01:48:18,399 --> 01:48:21,439 the Ronan, which got a seventy seven. So that's where the negative seven 1687 01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:25,880 points excellent, okay, perfect. Look, I have some big games that 1688 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:29,760 are gonna come out of Got Star Wars Outlaws, Mario Luigi Brothership. Thank 1689 01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,720 goodness you're here, like it's not completely over from me. Although apparently I 1690 01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:35,680 had Chante Advance and we know that's not coming out this year. How the 1691 01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:41,079 hell is Chante Advanced not coming out this year? Great, but that's fine. 1692 01:48:41,319 --> 01:48:43,880 I'll be fine. I'll like one drop right. We still have to 1693 01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,239 drop right. You probably do if you haven't used it yet. There's also 1694 01:48:47,319 --> 01:48:51,039 another option. I think I already had the three D Mario platform. Risk. 1695 01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,960 I don't worry because I have something that will still save you. That 1696 01:48:57,159 --> 01:49:00,039 being said, I didn't want to leave you out of the graphics, so 1697 01:49:00,199 --> 01:49:03,079 I did need to put some sort of stat and I feel like, you 1698 01:49:03,159 --> 01:49:09,279 know, just some representation. You're on last, you're third from last last, 1699 01:49:09,319 --> 01:49:15,359 so it's like you can hang your hat on that it's hanging. So 1700 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,000 before I head out, because that is the last slide, I do have 1701 01:49:18,199 --> 01:49:25,039 some things to remind the community about September. First, is your counterpick deadline. 1702 01:49:25,319 --> 01:49:28,800 We all started with one. You need a bid for your second one, 1703 01:49:29,079 --> 01:49:30,680 and of course it's a counterpick, so it has to be someone else's 1704 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:35,000 pick in your division. And that deadline is September first. If you do 1705 01:49:35,159 --> 01:49:41,119 not have a second counterpick by then, it's an automatic negative fifteen. So 1706 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:45,640 literally, bid on anything because it's probably better than a negative fifteen. Right 1707 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:50,239 that being said, Something that we do that I know the Giant Bomb League 1708 01:49:50,319 --> 01:49:55,159 I'm pretty sure doesn't is a super drop. And Mike, this is where 1709 01:49:55,319 --> 01:49:59,920 you might be saved. So after September one, I think you have to 1710 01:50:00,119 --> 01:50:02,000 be within a certain threshold of the lead. And let me tell you, 1711 01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:05,279 none of us are in that threshold. So this applies to all five captains. 1712 01:50:06,119 --> 01:50:11,079 There's a super drop, which basically is an extra drop that does it 1713 01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:14,399 that ignores every single rule. You could drop a game that came out that 1714 01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,960 sucked, you could drop a bad counterpick, you could drop another game that's 1715 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:23,279 supposed to come out this year. It's a totally rules free drop and it's 1716 01:50:23,319 --> 01:50:26,439 given to anyone. It's it's a catch up. It's a ketchup mechanic basically, 1717 01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,359 So okay, have no fear your negative six point six y' eight will 1718 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:34,720 not stay, you know, for the rest of the year. And Jeff 1719 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,800 you mentioned it too. There's a lot of games coming out. I do 1720 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:44,319 want to recall from last year, the uncharted Wolf was like doing terrible. 1721 01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:45,920 I don't think he even remembered he was in this league, and then we 1722 01:50:46,079 --> 01:50:49,840 reminded him and he came in second, and all of his games he picked 1723 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:55,960 up between like September and November. So there, you know, there's I 1724 01:50:56,079 --> 01:50:59,199 know, the leaderboard looks scary, but if you're pet in it, yeah, 1725 01:50:59,319 --> 01:51:00,920 you have played any of games like go, you might have to get 1726 01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,520 in the weeds a little bit, but there are stuff out there that can 1727 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:08,199 definitely get you to the top. I mean, we weird things happen like 1728 01:51:08,279 --> 01:51:11,039 that get a lot of points. But Latro is over ninety, right, 1729 01:51:11,079 --> 01:51:13,840 and that kind of came out of nowhere. But even like you know, 1730 01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:17,479 things like you know the expansion for Destiny too, that was like a that 1731 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,760 was over ninety. That was a huge gift for somebody that maybe you wouldn't 1732 01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:27,600 think of right away necessarily. Yeah, this is and like just to remind 1733 01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,159 people, like right now, I think we are in the period where you 1734 01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:32,680 can't bid on anything. That'll start again on Sunday Monday. When does that 1735 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:38,000 began again? Yes, so as of I think an hour ago, or 1736 01:51:38,039 --> 01:51:40,760 maybe it was two hours ago. Yeah, yeah, we are we can 1737 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,880 only bid on games that already have between Monday and or Sunday and Thursday. 1738 01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,920 So if you're bidding on something right now, it's probably something that someone else 1739 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:55,840 already bid on. But yes, starting Sunday open the bids open up again 1740 01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,319 and you can bid on whatever you want. So yeah, unfortunate timing, 1741 01:51:59,399 --> 01:52:01,960 but yeah, yep, next week will be Yeah, that's good. Just 1742 01:52:02,079 --> 01:52:04,319 either way. The point is, pay attention everybody, get back in there, 1743 01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:08,199 give it a shot. But they got reminds of giant on people to 1744 01:52:08,199 --> 01:52:11,560 pay attention to that league too. We gotta give them. There's something on 1745 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,439 forget what something's on the line there, that's right, whoever gets in last 1746 01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:20,000 has to play the game that got the worst review score that anyone pays. 1747 01:52:20,119 --> 01:52:24,920 Okay, so all right, anything else, bit you, bob. I 1748 01:52:25,039 --> 01:52:26,920 was gonna say, if you need me to make like a you know, 1749 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,840 a masculating review for that league, you know my services are available, So 1750 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,720 all right, I'm projected for first in that one. That'd be great. 1751 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,479 Yeah, yeah, we'll enjoy that and see what you could do on that. 1752 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:40,920 We'll see, maybe we can make something happen for a BCR here pretty 1753 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,119 soon, all right, Uh, let's wrap things up, Mike, I'm 1754 01:52:44,159 --> 01:52:46,680 gonna hit the button waiting super Chat supertest. Yes, we can get a 1755 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,720 few more super chats in there, Mike, go ahead and read those forests 1756 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:55,239 please. Ye from a dibity dabs is playing the new Noman Sky update and 1757 01:52:55,399 --> 01:52:59,560 just named my starting planet game has decides fantastic payable to Dibity Dab, this 1758 01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,600 game is excellent. Yeah, I have not played No Mans Guy since basically 1759 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,680 launch. I would be curious to go back and just catch up on all 1760 01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:10,800 of these amazing updates. Apparently so the same. Have you thought much more 1761 01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:17,359 about their weird like big world game that they're also making. He has to 1762 01:53:17,399 --> 01:53:23,199 be tweeting what's his name, Sean Murray Murray, Hello games, Sean Murray. 1763 01:53:23,279 --> 01:53:26,560 Yes, Christen, that was one of your That was one of your 1764 01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:32,039 most extreme coming in hots. Yeah, it was just it said it in 1765 01:53:32,239 --> 01:53:38,359 like half a second. Uh yeah, earlier this week I was thinking a 1766 01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,680 lot about that game. Actually, I'm like that they probably have got so 1767 01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:45,760 many refined technologies that they are going to deploy on that thing, and then 1768 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,239 to just have one planet and it's a fantasy set, I'm probably gonna lose 1769 01:53:48,319 --> 01:53:51,880 myself in that game. I'm really hopeful. Uh, I think we have 1770 01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:55,319 a few more super chats, right, yeah, El Grugs has random thought. 1771 01:53:55,359 --> 01:54:00,079 But what if then Dakatana and Nintender World Championship leaderboard situations are karma for 1772 01:54:00,199 --> 01:54:01,960 not buying a squid word last Friday. All right, fine, I'll buy 1773 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:08,520 a squid word right fucking now? Are you people happy? Happy? Symbiosis 1774 01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:12,399 is killer dump truck today? Boys Backlar would be proud. Also, there 1775 01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:15,119 was no way Castanzas Frogger score would have still been on that machine. Yeah. 1776 01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:19,880 Absolutely, Brono triggers is Mike. I hope the Skyriz helps keep the 1777 01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:24,439 Crowns at bay. Thank you, Brono. And Chris Pratt says we should 1778 01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:28,960 have a Gamer National Convention. I agree we should have Chris Pratt in that 1779 01:54:29,399 --> 01:54:31,560 coot for the gamers. Thank you, Chris Pratt, Thank you, Chris, 1780 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:36,079 Thank you Chris On. And that is it now? All right, 1781 01:54:36,479 --> 01:54:40,239 I'll see you all at the GNC, where I'm sure there will be several 1782 01:54:40,439 --> 01:54:45,319 very violent riots. Until then, though, let's hit the button, Mike. 1783 01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:47,840 Yeah, anything going on? You want to tell people? Is there 1784 01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,920 a stream you got planned or anything like that? I mean, there's a 1785 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:58,680 new nineties Disney out talking about our favorite transportation vehicles and rides in Disney World. 1786 01:54:59,439 --> 01:55:01,880 But yeah, i' gonna get to streaming this weekend. Probably, Yeah, 1787 01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:06,520 Friday nights we'll do some more Stark Souls, but definitely some Nintendo World 1788 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,720 Championship and probably maybe some of this Concord beta honestly too, I want to 1789 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,119 check that out at least a little bit. So yeah, plenty of things 1790 01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:15,920 to play this weekend for sure. Uh Yeah, I'm uh. I'll probably 1791 01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:20,520 find some time to get online and maybe stream something I want to. Like 1792 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:23,520 I said, I want to take some time to myself this weekend. That'll 1793 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:27,239 probably involve that I did a Q and A last weekend. I still have 1794 01:55:27,319 --> 01:55:29,640 not posted that. I'll get that taken care of, and by that, 1795 01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,119 I mean I might send it over to Christian. We'll get that posted for 1796 01:55:32,239 --> 01:55:38,079 everybody. Anything else, Yeah, giant bomb, A ton of great stuff 1797 01:55:38,079 --> 01:55:41,239 happened this week. As people have been alluding to. It was a very 1798 01:55:41,319 --> 01:55:44,279 fun Voicemail Dump Truck. You should go check that out. If you haven't 1799 01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,199 subscribed that podcast, just go do it now. Just go search Voicemail Dump 1800 01:55:47,239 --> 01:55:50,479 Truck or VMDT on your podcast player and listen to that. It's a good 1801 01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:56,560 time. Tomorrow, I'll have a game mess mornings and then I'll have a 1802 01:55:57,199 --> 01:56:00,039 UPF where we're gonna play some Nintendo World Championship. At the very least, 1803 01:56:00,319 --> 01:56:02,680 we'll probably spend most of the time playing that. Mike, you're gonna be 1804 01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:05,279 around for that. I can't remember if I believe so, unless I feel 1805 01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:09,720 incredibly sky rizzed up. Yeah, no problem, Yes, if you can, 1806 01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:11,760 that'd be great. Maybe we'll find a way to like kind of have 1807 01:56:12,119 --> 01:56:14,800 some side by side gameplay and we can like just spend some time trying to 1808 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:16,399 set a score on a level or something like that. I don't know. 1809 01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,399 We'll probably have to just figure it out as we go, and then we'll 1810 01:56:19,439 --> 01:56:23,600 do a BCR after that where we'll talk about a few other things this week. 1811 01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,319 It'll be a good time. Other than that, though, I just 1812 01:56:27,399 --> 01:56:30,319 hope everyone has a good week. If you're going out the EVO, be 1813 01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,279 safe, have a good time. Go find Sean. He's there and he's 1814 01:56:34,479 --> 01:56:39,199 he is doing stuff for both Giant Bomb and I think GameSpot as well, 1815 01:56:39,399 --> 01:56:44,000 so wow, yeah, so find him, say hello, and then he'll 1816 01:56:44,039 --> 01:56:45,039 definitely be like, hey, you want to be in a video, or 1817 01:56:45,159 --> 01:56:47,199 maybe there might be a chance you want to be in a video for a 1818 01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:49,359 giant bomb. He's gonna be doing a travelog I think, so look out 1819 01:56:49,399 --> 01:56:53,000 for that. All right, everybody, thanks for watching. Until next time, 1820 01:56:53,079 --> 01:57:26,279 have a good one, Take care of yourself. Bye bye A squid 1821 01:57:26,319 --> 01:57:31,800 word. It's thirty five fucking dollars. Fuck yeah, I definitely beat it 1822 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:44,279 this time. Yeah, very mature, Shelley. All right. Games, 1823 01:57:44,359 --> 01:57:48,800 yeah, there there they were for from the Family computer disc system the first, 1824 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,239 yes, that makes sense, Yeah, the famicn system. Yeah, 1825 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:56,119 and Japan they went famic Con dis system for a lot of stuff, Like 1826 01:57:56,239 --> 01:58:00,640 Zelda was a Famicom system disc system game in Japan because that was very popular 1827 01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:03,399 over there, and you know, of course it was a lot cheaper for 1828 01:58:03,439 --> 01:58:08,039 them to produce those discs than the cartridges. But that never took off anywhere, 1829 01:58:08,239 --> 01:58:10,079 well, never took off in North America. I don't know if it 1830 01:58:10,159 --> 01:58:14,039 was anywhere else. But like the idea of like taking a disc and going 1831 01:58:14,079 --> 01:58:16,920 to a kiosk and like choosing a game and having it like rewritten over a 1832 01:58:17,039 --> 01:58:19,479 disc is crazy to me, but that's that's what they were doing back then. 1833 01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,960 It was it was neat, and it was like the and they they, 1834 01:58:25,039 --> 01:58:27,079 you know they so they sold the games at a discount because it was 1835 01:58:27,159 --> 01:58:30,279 saving them a lot of money on manufacturing, and they passed the savings on 1836 01:58:30,359 --> 01:58:33,119 to you. They would never do that today, absolutely, And you want 1837 01:58:33,159 --> 01:58:38,800 to set up the thread. So we're gonna do super chats and then the 1838 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:45,359 right after we're gonna do monroe'smore. Yes, if you guys are interested, 1839 01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,479 Yeah, I did whip up a messy pin and okay, well then yeah, 1840 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:51,680 do you want to do one? Okay, let's do We'll do a 1841 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:56,159 messy pin. That sounds great. Okay, So then what we'll do is 1842 01:58:56,319 --> 01:58:59,520 we'll do the super chat and then we'll and then we'll do messy Pin and 1843 01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:01,079 then take a break and I'll get set up for the other thing after that. 1844 01:59:01,319 --> 01:59:08,600 Perfect. Okay, sounds good. All right, I'm going to bring 1845 01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:13,680 us back in right now. All right, everybody watching live, we appreciate 1846 01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:15,079 it. Thanks for hanging out. We'll get right back into it. As 1847 01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:21,800 I set up. You just can't do anything about him. Yeah, yeah, 1848 01:59:23,399 --> 01:59:27,479 sorry, how do I do this? I guess I just share my 1849 01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,720 power point. Yeah, you could share the power point as like a window 1850 01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:35,479 in discord. That should be good. That's perfect, okay, Mike, 1851 01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:40,880 all right, there he is, there he goes, That goes my hero, 1852 01:59:42,479 --> 01:59:46,119 there goes my room. All right, there it is, Thank you, 1853 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,760 Jeff. I'm a little bummering out doing a mount rushmore of sports like 1854 01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:55,520 you said we would. I know we'll get around to that eventually. We'll 1855 01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,680 get our revenge, as I mean sports games like didn't we do that? 1856 01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:05,560 All right? Writes Actual Sports Podcast episode was incredible to hear them like why 1857 02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:09,920 they chose those games? Oh so good. I couldn't do it. I 1858 02:00:11,159 --> 02:00:13,800 I like those guys, even though they're at barstool and I don't like barstool 1859 02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:18,079 overall. PFT commenter is maybe one of the best like sports podcasters ever in 1860 02:00:18,199 --> 02:00:21,880 terms of the way that he like can take like a trope at all, 1861 02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:25,960 like guys on ESPN do, and turn it on its head immediately. He's 1862 02:00:26,079 --> 02:00:32,479 just really sharp. All right, let's see here, let me go like 1863 02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:41,119 this, show my camera and then turn off all non video participants and then 1864 02:00:42,319 --> 02:01:03,239 grit it up and there we go. We do is that it's not showing 1865 02:01:03,319 --> 02:01:15,000 up? Okay, here we go. Okay, it's coming up right now, 1866 02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:21,159 don't everybody vamp for me at once appreciate. Sorry, Look we're offline. 1867 02:01:21,199 --> 02:01:28,880 It's fine. You know it's funny. I will say, uh YouTube. 1868 02:01:29,079 --> 02:01:32,840 I share a special uh kind of hobby with both of you. Mike. 1869 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,760 I grew up in Orlando and I'm a big Mark fan, so like 1870 02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:42,079 nineties Disney obviously has been great content for me. But then Jeff, I 1871 02:01:42,159 --> 02:01:46,239 also have an Ambernick. I'm getting the I in neo flip ds like this 1872 02:01:46,479 --> 02:01:49,640 month, So it's like, it's really funny that you two both hit like 1873 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:54,720 super niche hobbies. For me, I think we were none of the people. 1874 02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,359 That's how it goes. All right, I'm set up. I'll bring 1875 02:01:57,479 --> 02:02:04,359 us back in AWE. So you're telling me you see somebody freaking liquid death 1876 02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:09,600 your first impulse, like that's the recovering alcoholic that would not be mine, 1877 02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:15,640 would think. I think I think people used to looking for a reaction from 1878 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:17,319 you, Mike. I don't think you should listen to those people. I 1879 02:02:17,399 --> 02:02:23,199 think people online are pedantic and like you're looking for things to be to be 1880 02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:27,399 self righteous about, is what I'm thinking. This is a bad element of 1881 02:02:28,079 --> 02:02:30,960 what brings out what the Internet brings out in people. For sure, my 1882 02:02:31,159 --> 02:02:34,279 first guest would be they ordered a water, and this is the only thing 1883 02:02:34,399 --> 02:02:38,079 they have when you order a water, because that's what's happened to me when 1884 02:02:38,079 --> 02:02:41,720 I had it the one time. Okay, are you guys ready to get 1885 02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,239 right back into it. Yeah, yeah, it's just let's wrap things up 1886 02:02:44,279 --> 02:02:46,399 here and film feeling pretty sky riz up. All right, let's let's do 1887 02:02:46,479 --> 02:02:47,000 it then, all right,