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with Jake running at quarterback, because I think we all can agree at this
point there are significant differences we've seen the last two weeks. There are significant
changes, changes that have certainly helped him and made this offense it's fun to
watch as it's been or put it like this, because I actually, come
on, let's be honest here, it's been really fun. And people are
comparing Joe Burrow and Jake Browning and the offenses and all of those things.
They were really, really good before Burrow went down. They had a lead
on arguably the top team in the league, and they beat the top They
either beat the top team in the league or had a lead against the top
team in the league when Burrow was in. So whatever they were doing was
working. And I'm referring to San Francisco forty nine Ers and then the Baltimore
Ravens. But Jake Browning isn't Joe Burrow. And we said that going into
the Steelers game, and it took the coaching staff a week. It took
Jake Browning a week. It took this franchise a week to adjust, to
make the changes necessary or to go to the part of the playbook that fit
Browning best and fit this offense best. And it's clearly working. Thirty four
points two straight games. The offense won them the game in Jacksonville. The
defense was great on Sunday against the Colts, but the offense held up their
end of the bargain as well and gave them an early lead, which obviously
helps the defense a ton, helps this team a ton, So this offensive
staff deserves a lot of credit. We can get into that, but I
know you pulled some stats. So how different is this offense right now compared
to what we saw with Joe Burrow From a numbers perspective, you can pick
a staff a split and it significantly changed the last three weeks and compared to
what they were doing with Joe Burrow. The most obvious thing, and we've
talked about this is the dismissal of empty stuff that they love doing with Joe
Burrow. The purpose of that, of course, is to flood the coverage
with concepts, and Joe Burrow does what he does. He's very good at
identifying this is the concept that I need to read out on this play because
this is a coverage I'm getting and this is a guy that's going to be
open. That's what Joe Burrow's very good at. That's why he likes empty
so much. It lets him distribute the ball quickly, accurately, get the
ball to his playmakers on time, sometimes in space, give them yard after
catch opportunities with his elite ball placement. Jake Browning doesn't really do all of
that at the level Joe Burrow does, and you wouldn't expect him to write
he's a backup quarterback, and he certainly has his strengths, but that type
of quick processing of full field reads and concepts where he has to pick aside
based on a look. He can go through full progression, but you don't
want him to do it the whole game. You don't want him to live
in it. You don't want to live in it out of empty in particular.
So that's one big difference that we can just eyeball test. But you
look at play action. For example, the last three weeks against the Steelers,
eighteen point eight percent of the Bengals dropbacks for play action. In week
thirteen against the Jaguars, noticeable uptick right we saw those boots. We noticed
it up to twenty seven and a half percent in week fourteen. Fewer pass
attempts overall, but play action comprising forty two point three percent of the Bengals
passing attempts this week against the Colts in week fourteen. Similar you look at
screens from six point three percent to seventeen and a half percent, big jump
right from twelve to thirteen, another jump up to twenty three percent in week
fourteen. Again, fewer overall snaps, but play action and screens two numbers
to start, and I have two more that you can look at and see
from a stat perspective in addition to those eye test things. Significant shifts in
a clear direction the last three weeks. And it's interesting because there's a lot
of people that have said, all right, well, this offense is completely
like rebuilt itself looks completely different, and it looks different, and those stats
back that up. But these are topics, not necessarily the screen game,
but the play action stuff. We talked about it this offseason. We've have
multiple shows going back to OTA's watching Burrow work under center. Like I think
that it was a goal of theirs to be more diverse and maybe less empty
all the time. And part of it, a big part of why they
weren't especially early in the season, I think had to do with that calf
injury for Burrow. So to do it now and implement it, I think
it makes a ton of sense. Clearly, Browning is comfortable and you just
want to make life easier, and you go way back if you want to
go to the Mark Sanchez versus the Bengals two thousand and nine playoff game at
pay Corps where awful, awful game. I hated it right, broke my
heart at the time, but they made life easier Mark Sanchez. That's why
he made it to back to back AFC title games. Really good defense,
running the ball, play action, easy decisions, make a couple big throws
each game. And this Bengals coaching staff they've shown that they can do that
with Browning, and Browning as show that he's capable of making some big throws,
throws that are necessary plays in important moments and key spots, and so
thus far it feels pretty sustainable. I don't know if the numbers will stay
there right, Like the screen passes, I don't think they're going to average,
you know, one screen per game that goes for thirty nine or more
yards, which is the case over the past three games going back to the
Pittsburgh game. I think that's unrealistic. But they've found ways to get the
ball of their playmakers in space and to make Browning's life easier, and he
should only get more and more comfortable, not less comfortable. So it's it's
great that they've had that to lean on. Yeah, the screen game in
particular is something that I think is very matchup specific. They have these defenses
the last couple of weeks that are sending guys up field. They're very aggressive
on the defensive line. The defenses will be different going forward. For example,
Gus Bradley blitz maybe like two times the entire game. He doesn't blitz
Flores defense coming up Minnesota gonna blitz the heck out of Jake Browning next week,
So there will be some differences in that way and blitzaying, hey,
you can catch the blitz with the screen at the right time, you're going
to have a big gain off it. Just for a reference, the last
couple of weeks, the play action rates twenty seven and a half percent forty
two. This week screen rate seventeen and a half percent, twenty three percent.
With Joe Burrow. Play action rate this season was twenty point six percent,
So we're a little bit higher the last couple of weeks with Jake Brining
to a lot higher. This week with Jake Brining's screen rate with Burrow at
quarterback was twelve and a half percent. And I think the biggest thing in
the screen game is they've been much more effective with the screens. They're not
necessarily running them a ton more, although this week they did. There's a
little bit of an uptick in usage of screens and a big uptick and effectiveness
of the screen game the last two weeks, and I said, I have
two more numbers, and some of this is going to lead to a conversation
about where we are on this coaching staff and their ability to adapt, as
I think they've proven that yet again they do in fact have that capability,
they have that flexibility in their toolkit. So we will continue the conversation on
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have two more numbers on the offense, James. But we're also gonna have
to talk about this coaching stuff, right the flexibility they've shown, the major
philosophical changes we've seen from them the last two weeks. What do you think?
First things first, the same people that came with the energy of what
is Zach Taylor's record without Joe Burrow, and I get it because it was
ugly without Joe Burrow. But this team is that as they were in twenty
nineteen. Look at that roster. It would have been ugly with any coach
in twenty twenty. I had my doubts, but Zach Taylor's done a lot
since then, and some people anytime there's a struggle, morph back into that
mindset of twenty twenty. It's time to evolve. It's time to evolve Zach
Taylor conversation and admit that, Hey, winning season in twenty one and oh
wait, not only did they get to or win the AFC North, but
they get to a Super Bowl that builds up equity. Then they get to
the AFC Title Game after winning the AFC North again. Okay, they're not
going to win the division this year. No team has won it three straight
years. But despite that, they're seven and six and we're talking about playoffs,
even though Joe Burrow has been out for three games now and was limited
to start the season. So Zach Taylor deserves credit for evolving, for figuring
this out and putting a more than competent effective offense out there and explosive all
out there, and Brian Callahan took a lot of heat too, and he
deserves credit, and so does Frank Pollack. Because Frank Pollack was it felt
like, from a fan base standpoint, Scapegoat was what everyone was pointing at
and looking at. Well, if you want to point out how he's the
run game coordinator when the run game stinks and they really struggle to run the
ball eight times for sixteen yards against the Steelers, let's point it out now,
because the past two weeks, the offenses ran through the running backs and
a lot of it and has produced a bunch of explosive plays and is a
big reason why the offense has scored thirty plus points in each of the past
two games. So I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm not saying they're going
to be great on Saturday against the Vikings. Hell, I'm no fortune teller.
What I can tell you is that there are people that just jump off
the moment it gets ugly for a second, and then I don't think they
give proper credit. And that's fine if you want to jump off and be
critical. I'm not even debating that. That's not really the point. The
point is now they're coaching their asses off and they deserve credit, and this
offensive staff should mention Dan Pitcher too, because they're doing a great job.
It's been effective. Jake seems comfortable, this offense is working, Joe Mixon
has been as effective as he's been all season. Like wherever you look,
it makes a ton of sense and it's working. So the coaching staff top
to bottom deserves a ton of credit on the offensive side for figuring this out
without Joe Burrow. Yeah, you take it where you can get it in
the last couple of weeks against some defenses that aren't necessarily world beaters, and
it will be a little bit harder down the stretch. They play three very
very good defenses in their last few games of the season, finishing with Steelers,
Chiefs, Browns. Those are three of the better defenses in the AFC,
if not the best defense in the league of the Browns, which they
have been really for the entire year. So they have their work cut out
for them, and we might be revisiting this again in a few weeks if
they can't figure out some answers against those good defenses as well. But they
do deserve credit, I think for being adaptable and This is what I was
talking about earlier this year when I said they figured it out, and they
have. They have a track record, a consistent track record at this point
of figuring it out. Sometimes it's frustrating because they've had these slow starts and
it's like, why is it taking so long? Why can't they figure this
out at the start of the season. Why are they getting off to these
slow starts and digging themselves these holes? This year, I think a lot
of it was to do with Joe Burrow's calf, and I think that we
would have seen way more of this play action game earlier this year, and
probably more of the boot game as well as Joe Burrow specifically worked on his
athleticism and being on the move and throwing on the run this offseason to prepare
for this NFL season. I think we would have seen a lot of this
stuff if not for that calf injury. So the early season grade is around
them not adapting properly. Maybe they should have played Jake Browning. I don't
know, we'll never know that. That's like hindsight analysis that I don't really
think think is worth the time. But they should get consistent credit for their
track record of figuring things out over the course of the season, making changes,
being adaptable, and finding the right buttons to push, whether that's taking
the stress off the offensive line, going from a team that was about league
average and true pass sets to the last three weeks being thirty five and a
half twenty six percent and twenty nine percent in true pass sets, meaning those
are the ones that aren't quick game play action boot RPO where they have to
sit there and just block a straight drop back. They're not doing that as
much anymore with Jake Browning as they did with Joe Burrow. They're taking the
stress off the offensive line. They found ways to do that. They've shown
that they have that kind of offense in their repertoire, and maybe overall it's
like a twenty five percent different offense. I don't think it's like this night
and day entirely different offense or running with Jake Browning, but that change is
enough for it to be very effective, and I think to give them something
to consider when Joe Burrow returns in the future too. No doubt, I
think that there are certainly pieces that will translate that they'll use with Burrow.
I do I'm going to go down the hindsight path because I know people will.
I just want to address this and be very very clear of how I
stand. There is not a world where anybody would have played Jake Brown and
going into that Cleveland game because everyone thought Burrow was close to one hundred percent,
everybody including Joe all right. Then in the Baltimore game, still good
to go. He played really well in the second half before re injuring it
season on the line eight days later, played pretty well against the Rams and
they won. And then you had the awful outing against Tennessee, no doubt
about it. But are you benching him after the Rams win? Probably not.
You didn't know it was going to look like that against Tennessee, and
then that's when the wind streak got rolling, and they got rolling as a
team that's starting in Arizona. So there was never really unless you would have
said it he wasn't healthy going into the season, which no one thought.
No one thought he was at sixty percent or whatever you want to say going
into the year. Then I think that the hindsight is what it is,
and people will go back and say, oh, what you should have They
shouldn't have because it would have taken. The other part is they it would
have taken Browning a few weeks to get comfortable, would have taken this offense
a few weeks to adjust and then what So I think they made the right
call there, even though people might go back and say otherwise, that said,
yeah, it's clearly working. The credit deserves to be there, and
I think people should be able to I certainly did. I just did,
and you probably feel the same way, even if you don't want to go
down the hindsight path. Is they clearly deserve credit for in the moment after
the devastating injury, after an ugly loss to Pittsburgh, where it felt like
things were collapsing and it was just going to be over and we were going
to do mock draft Mondays within a week, flipping the script. And now
they're seven and six after being five and six, and in a twelve day
span, Jake, if they can handle business against Minnesota, which isn't gonna
be easy, But if they can handle business against Minnesota, you win three
games in twelve days. That's insane. And yet it's what the Bengals have
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thoughts here on the coaching staff and then we'll talk about those playoff scenarios.
Defense also defensive staff at least for one week. Lou An Rumo's guys and
lou Anna Rumo deserve credit for the performance against Indianapolis Colts, and they will
need more of that down the stretch at least, is my belief. Maybe
not against the Minnesota Vikings, who looked dysfunctional. I actually didn't see how
that game ended, but hey, one, three enough and they won three
nothing. Are you kidding me? Against the raid I mean, I know
the Vaders can rush a passer, but come on, hey, hey,
I'm not taking them lightly though. No, I'm just not. But the
last few games against the Bears they scored ten. Against the Raiders they scored
three. The defense all is a job to do, but Minnesota needs to
find some answers too. We'll talk with Luke about that game coming up in
the near future. But Steelers, Chiefs, Browns teams with fierce defenses of
their own. The defense for the Bengals will need to answer in kind for
the Bengals to necessarily have their best shot at winning those games. Barring the
offense, I think exceeding expectations against good defenses. The last thing I'll say
about this on the offensive coaches is I don't think that this change I kind
of hinted at it is necessarily super radical what they're doing with Jake Browning.
They're incorporating more concepts as Zach Taylor came from in the Sean McVay offensive,
Brian Callahan came from with his Gruden influence coaching tree. More of these boots,
more play action, this is stuff, and more diverse personnel groupings too.
They're using two tight ends more, I think in the last couple of
weeks with Drew Sample, Tanner Hudson and Mitchell Wilcox getting the majority of the
playing time. Actually this week Irv Smith getting the least naps for any tight
end, So that's an interesting note. But this is just modernizing the offense.
Evolving the offense probably the next step for the offense, and it's something
that I think should be easy to incorporate with Joe Burrow in the future as
well, taking a little bit off his plate, taking more of those easy
buttons. And I don't think it's a wholesale change. This is why,
if you've talked to me about this on Twitter, I've resisted the idea that
they can just quote unquote run this offense for Joe Burrow, but you do
need to take a lot of elements from it. It's a balance they need
to strike of letting Burrow play to his strengths and also using offensive design to
their benefit, which is something that we I've clearly seen in the last three
weeks. They know how to do and it's just finding the right buttons to
push at the right time and getting into that rhythm in the future when it's
Joe Burrow who can do way more for you than Jake Broden Camp. And
I think that if there is a blessing in the Burrow injury, it might
be that that this offense long term can hit a gear and evolve into something
that we haven't seen yet. And there'll be plenty of time to discuss that.
But this coaching staff, they've been forced to evolve at least a bit
or adjust, and we've seen them adjust over the years, and so I
think you can only grow from that. And by the way, last thing,
Jake Browning, he is restricted next year and will be a Bengal.
So if anyone says, oh my god, he's gonna get paid elsewhere,
I've gotten that a lot. I think a lot of people have. Jake,
you probably have to. So Jake Browning will be in Cincinnati next year.
That's what he's essentially guaranteed. I think with these past couple of games,
there's no doubt about that. Not only as he restricted, he's an
exclusive rights free agent, which means that unless the Bengals go out and decide
to reward him with a multi year contract and pay him, which will be
a little bit surprising considering their control, that's a less than one million dollar
salary for Jake Crowding next year. Just in case you're curious about the cap
implications, restricted free agents will get paid a little bit more. Let's shift
gears. Let's take a quick look at this playoff picture yesterday when we were
recording the Bengals for the seventh seed, and then the Broncos game finished and
the tiebreakers got all weird. There are six teams at seven and six currently
and all from the sixth seed in the playoffs, all the way down to
the Buffalo Bills, who, after beating the Kansas City Chiefs, are rewarded
with the eleventh spot in the playoff rankings, which is actually just one behind
the Bengals. The Bengals dropped for seven to ten after the Broncos win,
because what ended up happening was you jumped into a four way tiebreaker for that
seven seed, and instead of it being a head to head Colts Bengals tiebreaker,
it turned into a four way tiebreaker using conference win percentage, where the
Bengals are three and six and pretty far behind in that tiebreaker with those teams.
Yeah, it's it's a giant cluster. Let's call it what it is.
If you had to rank the Bengals games from like most important to least
important, Saturday is the least important, which on the surface you could say
because of the AFC, but just where the Steelers are, where the Browns
are winning those two games is just so huge for their playoff chances in having
a shot. But you got to get three, They have to get three
somewhere. If you get four, well then you better book those playoff tickets
go because they're going to the playoffs. It's like ninety nine percent that they're
in if they went out, and I think three or four is realistic.
But they are going to have to evolve a bit in how they I don't
think they're going to score thirty in Pittsburgh. I think that's tough to do,
or thirty against the Browns in Week eighteen, or thirty in Arrowhead with
Jick Brnnan. I think all three of those it's really really tough. So
this defense you mentioned the defense, I think the defense and lou probably knew
it going into that game, and that's probably why they only gave up eight
points And they could have given up twelve if the kicker showed up for the
cult. So even so, that's why they played the way they did.
I bet, oh, are you counting the two point conversion? I was
like, how do we get to eight? And it's the two point conversion?
I got it. Yeah, the defense will need to need to step
up down the stretch, and it's it just speaks to the muddle middle of
the AFC this year that there's six teams at seven and six. They are
three more teams at eight and five, including the Jacksonville Jaguars who have lost
to in a row, the Cleveland Browns who just named Joe Flacco their quarterback
for the rest of the season. I mean, we were really gonna have
Joe Flacco and defense again, I mean, that's the story we've seen before.
But these are the teams ahead of the Bengals, where the AFC just
looks fallible. Baltimore Ravens needed a punt return touchdown in overtime to beat the
Rams at home yesterday. Not taking anything away from the Rams, but they're
currently six and seven, so it's you understand why their mentality in the building
is like get to the playoffs. Anything could happen if they catch a heater
at the right time, if they can play well in these games any given
Sunday. I think that's very true in the NFL right now, But the
rest of the games are all important. Like you said, I think they
need at least three. There is a scenario technically where I think nine and
eight gets in, but it's not a scenario you want to live in.
If you're the Bengals, three give you a pretty good shot. You still
need a little bit of help, but it's not like you're you have crazy
asks. The one other thing that's not in their favor is I think their
schedule is just harder than some of the other teams in the mix here,
not all of them, I think. I think some of them have tough
schedules too, But you're looking at a team that already has played the hardest
schedule in the AFC this year, has the second highest now strength of victory
in the AFC, third highest my apologies, third highest strength of victory in
the AFC. And that schedule doesn't get easier down the stretch for the Bengals,
and so it will be tough, but the path is there, and
in a sense, they really do still control their own destiny if they can
win out. Oh for sure, no, they do. That phrase still
works. The two most important games are the division games, yes, and
just looking at the way the percentages swing, we don't know what's going to
happen. Things change really really quick. But getting that game in Pittsburgh is
such a huge, huge, huge opportunity. And at the same time,
it's like you look back, You're like, man, if they had just
played a little bit better against Pittsburgh a few weeks ago, it wouldn't feel
like this. They would feel they would be in the playoffs as of now,
and there wouldn't be really zero from margin for error because they have roughly
if they go two and two down the stretch, and those two wins are
against the Steelers and Browns, the two most important games. You only have
a thirteen percent chance of getting in, So it's you need a lot to
break your way. If you only go two and two down the stretch here,
it's gonna be tough. But they're interesting and they're fun, and that's
good news for everybody who likes to follow this team. I think that's what
you would hope for with Jake Jake Browning at quarterback, and so I'm still
excited to watch the rest of the year. Tomorrow, we'll dive into the
tape, then we'll get into the vikings with the first look with Luke come
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