Two other quick hits on DC. Green Lantern was green lit. Every fucking
news article did that, and I was like, oh my god, but
you know what I stole did it too. They're greenlit for an HBO series.
Is gonna be eight episodes. I gotta get the log line here.
But there's a difference because at one point was at HBO Max, but now
it's going to the actual like HBO the station. So that's kind of like
a sign of well, some people say that it's like of like reinsuring,
but it's like it's more so I think they're just kind of abandoning Max because
they announced the IT shows going there, and Harry Potter's going straight to HBO
as well, so which we're not talking about in the news. But HBO
got a showrunner for the Harry Potter Show succession, and that show's key did
to be out in twenty twenty six, which I thought was going to be
longer than that. Actually I did not think in two years from now we
begin the Harry Potter Show, but apparently reasonable, I guess. I just
I just thought it was further out. But I guess soon we're gonna start
getting the past to the kids. And everything like that. But yeah,
it's gonna be eight episodes. I gotta find let me see if I can
get the log line here. Well, I'm looking that up. The other
thing they announced while we were off is uh, not that Kirkland has seen
the show movie, but they've announced that Blue Beetle is gonna continue in the
DCU. That's gonna be an animated series. So they're not doing a sequel,
but they're gonna do an animated show to keep that alive, and it's
gonna be the same continuity because they never specified in that like what universe it
was in. Uh, this is the log line for Lanterns. The series
falls John Stewart and how Jordan as they're drawn into an Earth based mystery as
they investigate investigate a murder on American Heartland. The pitch is John Stewart is
gonna be the veteran, how Jordan's gonna be the newcomer. So alsosly,
you don't have anything to add on Blue Beetle, Kirklan, but what are
your thoughts on lantern here. It's it's a green lit for series. It's
not just like, oh, like we'll see what happens like all eight episodes
are gonna film, and what do you think about that? That plot synopsis?
I think it's awesome. I I really like this news. I Uh,
green lanterns are I'm just so like shallow in my knowledge of them,
Like I feel like I thought they looked cool from like watching Justice League back
in the day, seeing that was John Stewart's version, wasn't it in the
movie? No, like the A League, Yeah that was John Stewart.
Yeah, yeah, so I I really liked him, like in that show.
I thought it was a cool character with cool powers. And then my
only other like knowledge of it, not really including like Zack Snyder's Justice League
because that was so like minor. But of course is the legendary that we
did a retaurant yeah movie. So I'm excited to see another story, another
another take at another bad bat at the plate on a green lantern story,
and to have two versions of the character. I think is uh. I
like it. I like it, So I'll ask you and then I'll transitions,
and then we got some patren questions about this do you have and I'm
probably showing my cards here, but whatever do you have any I don't know
kind of I won't say disappointment, but less excitement the fact that they say
it's going to be an Earth based show, because for me it's like,
man, we got lanterns, space cops, OHA's out there, all these
different type aliens and it's just and I get it because it's TV show and
that's what you have to do. But for me, it's like, oh,
the second they say it's like an Earth bown mystery, it's like,
eh, like yeah, a threat again that they're facing. It's I think
it's a mysterious thread in a shadowy dark room or serious fall is the Lanterns
as they're drawn into an Earth based mystery as they investigate a murder in the
American Heartland, which is interesting because I what murder would get them there?
I would be minor, like case that two green lanterns would be handling.
So like the only two things I can okay, actually three things I can
think of. One it's someone that's personally tied to them like a family member,
and then you go, okay, I get that it is a lantern,
which I don't know why they'd be on Earth because I think unless maybe
they're not. Usually it's Haller John that is like, hey, you're the
Protective Earth, but maybe they're not. And let's say it's some Lantern that's
Protective Earth gets murdered. That's the reason. Or I don't think Gun and
Team would do this. But if they make it some DC hero, like
I'm not saying it's gonna be Batman, but like, hey, Batman,
leader of the member of the Just leagu's been murdered, you gotta go there.
So those are the three scenarios. So I think there's things that could
be good that it's just said. I'm gonna have to see the show and
see a trailer because for me, Lanterns I don't I would prefer a big
budget movie. I know the first one didn't do well, but it's also
because it was a a shit movie in my opinion, I think that didn't
lend itself to word of mouth. So I'll be curiously how it goes.
I just don't want this to fill cheap. And we've been there with the
Marvel and Star Wars shows before, right where it's this big scale thing but
it looks very ment and then it suffers for it. Right, So my
idea was more at least it was a show not on Earth and I would
have preferred a movie, but that's what we're doing. We're in the heartland
of America. I feel like I I'm not like super strong for or against
it, but I feel like I'm more on the side of liking this over
a space version for a first season. I just think it's there's potential to
just introduce so much on like the space scale of a lot of different I
don't know, sectors of the galaxy that they have to govern or watch over.
There's probably a lot of like I don't know, Like I would also
want what's their main hub called Ola. Yeah, yeah, I feel like
if we if like it just seems so large scale, and like if they
show that early and it's not like as Polish people would just tear that up
and just just say it like I don't, I don't know. I just
I like the idea of maybe keeping it more contained, to focus just on
our characters more so than the world around them, and then if it's really
successful, then you can potentially get a bigger budget and then grow from that
and then go off to the stars, uh to or beyond. So I
think right now I'm like sixty eight percent on the unlike, Yeah, I'd
prefer what they're what they're pitching here versus the latter or the other option.
Well, Psychoman says to me, it sounds like they're taking the Lantern Show
down in a Men in Black kind of route, which sounds interesting. Uh.
Yes, and no, I don't want to be that comedic though.
That's one thing I don't. I don't want them to go that level.
So I get I think you're just making the comparison. But that's where I
would pause, and I think, HBO, I don't think they're going to
be like a comedic DC show and everything like that, but get casting there,
Tommy Lee, Jones and uh Will Smith. Yeah, they just running
back they can do with the veteran is how Jordan the new course, So
like a what if scenario go back to the nineties or whenever they're their peak
would be. I don't I don't think Tommy Wane is a good hal but
I do think Will Smith could have been a good Stewart. I think more
serious Will could have could have done it may may fluid actor. I feel
like he could do it. Yeah, Will more so than Tommy Lee.
Just feel like, oh it's Tommy Lee his name was Jon Stewart. You
know what about this, Taylor? For you? How do you feelbout the
Green Lantern show. I'm excited because we just haven't I mean, I'm not
sure about the animated stuff, but I feel like, just in general with
Green Lantern, I feel like it's been a while for me to really actually
see this character on screen, last time being the Justice League Zach Snyder version
with that intro, and then before that are Infamous Hal Jordan Ryan Reynolds version
Infamous. Those are the only two versions, And I remember, I remember
when I worked at the movie theater when that movie came out, I actually
got like the big, like sixty inch by fifty inch banners of the characters,
the different alien lanterns, and I had them. I kept them under
my bed for about three years. They're still there. I don't know what
happened to them now, but yeah, they were probably were fucking kidding me.
Posters now this shit character, they're pretty hype. But yeah, I'm
in general, I'm just looking forward to seeing some Green Lantern. I think
a show would be a great way to do a character like this. Now,
obviously being a little bit more earth bound, I feel like that kind
of sucks. I feel like it's a way of just kind of capitalizing on
having a lower budget. I feel like we've gotten the earth based kind of
Green Lantern a little bit too heavy with Ryan Reynolds, that movie was very
much on Earth, and what we got was the saying Parallax, the ah,
the fucking yeah, we had him earth based threat. Like, I
don't know, I feel like I don't I don't need that out of the
gate. I need something a little bit more juicier than that. And to
be fair, like, well, them being on Earth is one thing,
and I'm totally okay with that in a small dose, not the whole theme
for a show. I would like to see the approach be more on a
galactic universal scale, the universe's police force. Let's do it or you know
what that being said, if they have to cut back, but keep it
on like an alien planet, but introduce some of the other lantern course that
are that exists out there because they use different like factors I guess for their
powers. Because I remember opening up a comic book one time. I didn't
read all of it. I just looked at the pictures all these different lanterns
that were different colors like red and yellow. Obviously we saw Sinestra when the
Ryan Reyulds movie, but it's just like, oh, this is actually really
cool. I'd love to see more of what these different lanterns are doing and
what they're up to. So and that's the thing I wonder is just like
can it be a hit show and then transition to movie because I think like,
yeah, it's a good way to introduce them. But then is it
that thing like we really won't know until we if we get to see it,
Like the Mandalorian show that goes into a movie, right, are people
going to come out to go see the movie when they already got the show
that they pay you know whatever nine twelve fifteen dollars for a month to see
the whole season or whatnot. And that's where I just don't know. Like
I do want the Lanterns to get bigger, but if it's TV show or
we always gonna be stuck on this type of level. You know, we're
gonna get Sinastral and these red wing Lanterns and all these things, right like
Darkest Day, all these storylines. I just I don't know. So I
just that's my worry is just they wanted to keep it the low budget.
They didn't have faith in the film, so they're going this route and hopefully
the Ozark show runners the person show running this. They also got Tom King
and Dame Lindoff who did the live action Watchman, which is phenomenal and loss
and a lot of other things. And Tom King He's wrote in a lot
of great com books. So there's a lot of great people on this.
It's in good hands, very very talented people. So I got I got
some faith there, and yeah, well we'll see. I'm excited to review
that one though. And then Blue Beetle I talked about a couple of weeks
ago on buck Stream. I think this is like the best case scenario,
because the worst case scenario was just nothing happening with that character. And the
fact that they say, hey, we're doing an animated show and it's set
in the DCU, that is like, if you're a fan of that character
and the actor that betrayed him, that is a great sign for him because
I do think that means he will carry on and whether it's a young Justice
in Booster Gold, whatever it is, He's cross over in a lot of
places. So I think It's one of these things where I like seeing that
as far as OK, the first movie's box office maybe didn't justify to do
this, but we want to use this character, we want to use actor.
What's another way to do it? Animation in some ways can be cheaper.
Think come from the entire cast is coming back. So I think that's
really cool, and I think I hope they get a really good animation style
because what you can do with the scareb in the Blue beatlesuit, I think
you can have some really cool sequences if done well. So I'm I'm a
big fan of this move. I think this is like for people that love
the character, it's better than I think the option was this or nothing,
because you weren't getting a movie and you're't getting a live action TV show.
So at least it's something like there's people that would kill just have anything continued
in an animated series. But Taylor is the person that reviewed with me,
does this float your botol is something you want to be checking out or you're
just like, let me know when he's back in live action stuff. I
don't know if I'm gonna be there at immediately day one, but I'm I'm
happy because I was actually more positive on the movie than I thought I was
going to be going into it. And so I like the character, I
like the family, and the fact that it is continuing that same universe is
actually, like, I think that's pretty awesome. And I think there was
like a whole rallying small community that was like stoked on Blue Beetle and just
the representation and just the excitement of this hero and just to have it kind
of snuffed out at the end that is disappointing. So you make a great
point the fact that not everyone gets that continuation and like a movie or show
whatnot, and so to have even just an animated show is actually pretty cool.
I mean, hell, I would love to have gotten that alien versus
pread or animated show, But look at that that's locked up in the vaults.
So one day, one day, you never know, and especially with
Warner Brothers deleting things like background movie and all that, you never know.
So I think this is definitely a win for the community, and it's exciting.
I would definitely check it out eventually. What a glowing, glowing representation.
I'll check it out eventually. So Kirk's gonna make you go check out
the movie. Uh, you're talking about Blue Beetle right now, the first
Blue Beetle. I even no rush to watch that movie at all, but
you know maybe one day, like Taylor says, one day, all right,
we're gonna take your next outbreak and we'll talk about some marvel. So
we'll be right back. Oh, Patreon questions, Fuck me, we didn't
talk about those lantern them. Sorry to patriot questions right now, Thank you
very much, Taylor. Well one Maggi's Patreon question. That can wait to
the end when we talk about these trays, So wait for that one.
What is the other one about John Stewart does or the casting re least?
Right? Can you let me finish? Because you're so fucking slow to get
a third ad break? Have you even go to the Patreon question? I
was gonna get there, so Patreon questions, Well, first of all,
Maggie just asked. He said, sorry, if you've done this before,
uh, you can discribe, but what dual of actors would you like to
see cast together for entrance? And you sent like an age range. At
first I read that as like Galga dot is in this show, and I
was very confused, and then I realized it was a spelling error. It
was for how right you said you said older for hol and then twenty thirty
was the range for some rumors go around there, but I got thirty forty
for how twenty thirty kind of broke that I have a backup if they was
too old. I knew they would I would, I knew they wouldn't go
to the rule. I'm sure they'd cast some white guys. Jon Stewart,
oh yeah, oh yeah. And then black guy is Hal Jordan. Actually,
no, you can't do you can't do that. You can't ray Swath
the white Oh god, I have an older how at least right now he
hasn't even looked. He's like fuck so no, no, no, actually,
Kirk r what are your picks? You want my pick? Steal my
picks? Unless he does mad Damon, then you can have my dame remark.
Wahlberg is one of them for sure. My first maybe not my first
pick is Ludacris. Actually for John Stewart is how Jordan is the older one?
Right? I got come on, the age range completely went out out
of my mind for that. What has he been in other than past in
like a very long that's That's why I want to see him in this.
Okay, who's your hell? Okay, good pick? Why hell? He's
your picker? No? Not a millionaires? You didn't pick. You didn't
pick no Luda for my hell? Where'd I? Why did I pick?
You want to see the things out than fast things? Yeah? Yeah?
And who I would pick is my hell? Honestly, I was thinking of
either j Jillen Hall or Bradley Cooper. Okay, I think John Hall has
the people barked up that tree before. I think Cooper, no shot,
There's no way he's stopping directing to go be fucking Green Lantern and the TV
show. But he's gonna talk to Ryan Reynolds. You're like, you think
I should do this? Absolutely dead and twelve years after No. I think
if Bradley Cooper turned down gun for Lex Luthor, I think that shows he's
I think he's not doing anything that way. So all right, kay Kirk,
when you go, I just want to put on a spot because I
felt like he was like scrolling through the Google goles. It's like, oh
God, I get him. Mi hell, Jordan, I love this pick.
I'm going Eric Dane, Oh my God, the great and Powerful Eric
Dane older Hell Jordan to Tail. You still have to search it up after
how many times. Eric Dane on podcast, Eric Dane, he's never seen
you for you though, like if you've seen like I feel like Grey's Anatomy
New Bad Boy. I haven't seen any of that. I haven't seen him
move. I've seen the old X Men movies though, and he's in that.
He's in there, yes, okay. And then for my John Stewart,
I had another character with just a solid iron jaw. I had yah
Yah abdul Mateen the second older John Stewart, younger than Eric Dane though,
so wow. So he's going from black Man to wonder Man to John Stewart.
That's he's doing it. Yeah, So like unlikely. I guess my
more likely pick I'm keeping Eric Dane would be Greg Tarzan Davies. I've only
seen him in Tapka Maverick. There you go. I would pick for my
how I put them both like ones like close to forty and then ones just
over thirty. I was having a hard time like with that age range.
Well, and again that's their range, so they could go anywhere, right,
one just has to be the veteran. They could be just the lanternlonger.
But I'm going Christopher Abbott for how Jordan because I've liked him before.
A couple of years ago. I thought he was fine, but after Sanctuary
and I liked his small role poor Things, even though there's some writing issues,
I have that character. The more and more I see this guy in
this, I think it's next year. He's in the Wolfman remake that Leewan
ELL's making. Who did Invisible Man. They're doing a Wolfman with him,
and that's when I'm like, Okay, I think he's gonna show up with
Chops more. So I'm going Christopher Abbott. And then uh, for John,
I'm going Travonte Rhodes because he was in Moonlight, c great role,
like starmaking performance, and then after that he was in bird Box as well,
but then like he was in the fucking the Predator, and I feel
like he's just not been on a good wavelength and his agent is is fucking
over. So I feel like, get him that ring and I feel like
he like looks the part. I feel like I the good thing about Moonlight
is he's big and he's a badass. But with Moonnight, you literally get
to see the emotion and the different shades he can bring to a character.
So just because he looks like a big jack guy, don't just mistake that.
So that would be my pick right there for those two. So and
then Mike, I think you asked a question that we kind of talked about,
talked about a little bit bit asked so lanterns for me on HBO.
Oh, I guess we talk about this question. Do you guys think this
is an indicator that the show will push the line to an R rating?
Or is it more evidence that w dB just wants their DC shows to have
a present HBO brand On the latter half, I don't know if it's so
much about HBO brand, it could be. I think it's just that they
clearly don't care about Max And like I think this is them not fully waving
the town streaming, but just going, hey, we shouldn't do this.
Is it gonna be rated R? I'm just gonna say no, like because
it's stuff most the big hit stuff on HBO is radar, right, But
I'm just gonna say no because I just don't feel like it could be dramatic
and adult. But like, I don't know if I need to see like
Hal and John like tag team and some guy or girl right like in the
DP going on. So like if that's the case, sure, here's saying
write the story. If it is a radar, great, but I hope
it's not. Oh it's HBO. We need sex, drugs and violence.
Like there's some about lanterns where I don't need that per se, So whatever
dictates, but I hope it's not. Well, gotta be an R because
it's HBO. Like you could still like Harry Potter is not gonna be R
rated, right, I would imagine. So there's another one. So I
think it's more just sinking mud blood, that moaning myrtle baptop scene is gonna
get fucking wild. Oh yeah, yeah, they're gonna like have you guys
seen the saltburn? We want to do that and everything. But uh no,
I think it's I don't think it will be for sure rated R.
I don't think so. I don't think it'll be rated R at all.
I think the strong PG fourteen A in that range okay strong, yeah,
Taylor, I don't think it's gonna be rated R. I think that there
are some things that they'd stick to that adult factor, like your house dragon
and whatnot. But I don't think we're gonna get that in in here.
I think it's just exclusivity. I think that's what it comes down to, so