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You're a detective sergeant. 19 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:37,400 You're assigned to robbery detail. Sixteen persons have been robbed and beaten senseless. 20 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:43,919 The victims describe the assailant as a tall, beautiful woman. Your job stopper, 21 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Ladies and gentlemen. Next week marks the beginning of National Crime Prevention Week, 22 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:55,719 sponsored by your local police department. These seven days are set aside to 23 00:02:55,759 --> 00:03:00,000 call your attention to the fact that you're a police officer. To better ensure 24 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:06,840 the safety of your community relies on the cooperation of the individual citizen. We 25 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:10,520 feel that crime prevention should be observed not seven, but three hundred and sixty 26 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:16,960 five days a year. Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For 27 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:22,199 the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you 28 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,840 will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case 29 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:30,919 from official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. 30 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:38,960 Dragnet is the story of your police force in action was Wednesday, October third, 31 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:42,960 was warm in Los Angeles. We're working a night watch out of robbery 32 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:46,360 detail. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Thad Brown, Chief of 33 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,759 Detectives. My name is Friday. We run the way over from the City 34 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,159 Hall and it was six fifty five pm when we got to the County Hospital 35 00:03:53,520 --> 00:04:06,319 Ward ninety eight hundred from twelve Best Way. Gentlemen, thank you here we 36 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,879 are. Please try not to excite him, sergeant. He's had a pretty 37 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:13,400 hard time. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Make your visit as brief 38 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:21,000 as possible. We will think. Mister maloney, how are you feeling? 39 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:27,120 That's so good? You fellows doctors? Oh, sir police officers. This 40 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,040 sergeant Romero. My name's Friday, Robbery Detail. Oh find out anything yet? 41 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:35,519 Still checking, mister maloney. We'd like to have you tell us exactly 42 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,079 what happened night before that. Oh she's sure. I had me full. 43 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,360 That's all I can say. You're not the first week, fifteen others ahead 44 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:46,920 of you. Would you tell us what happened? Well? I left the 45 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,839 shop, left to midnight and I started to drive home at Central eleven. 46 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,279 You work at Maloney's Steakhouse down on South Commercial. That right, yes, 47 00:04:56,399 --> 00:05:00,319 and my uncle, Oh's the place. His name is Jay Brown Maloney. 48 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,279 He knows a lot of cops, you know him, and we met him 49 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,720 this afternoon. Could you tell us what happened after you left work? Well, 50 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:11,920 I started to drive home out Central Elevenue. I guess it must have 51 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:16,879 been around eighteenth Street. I would you push it? Yes, sir, 52 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:23,959 I got here, I was thanks. I pulled up for the arterial and 53 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,560 I saw this girl standing on the corner. She was hitchhiking. Do you 54 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,360 remember what she looked like, how she was dressed, you know, kind 55 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:38,800 of flashy but nice clothes, good looking dame, tall, long blonde hair, 56 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,360 beautiful eyes. You're sure about the color of her hair, Yeah, 57 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:46,319 it was blond, and you offered her a ride. I didn't think there 58 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:50,879 was anything wrong. And then I'm a married man, you know, I 59 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,879 didn't think it was anything wrong. What happened then, Well, she got 60 00:05:55,879 --> 00:06:00,319 in a car and we drove off. We talked to she pulled a gun 61 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,160 on me, told me to drive up an alley. Where was that do 62 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:12,920 you remember around thirty second Street, thirty second at Centro. Then what she 63 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,720 took my wallet, watched cock keys, everything I had, and she made 64 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:24,560 me get out of the car, lay down on the street. I felt 65 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,160 a chef that gun again? Can't you fix that? Fellow? Just lying 66 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:33,360 still here? I felt a chef that gun against it? And then she 67 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:39,160 pulled the trigger. I guess that's all I remember. You don't recall her 68 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:46,040 slugging must have happened after she shut me. Her face looks pretty bad. 69 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,600 Huh. You'll be all right, mister maloney. You think you would recognize 70 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,319 the girl if you saw her again? I sure would. Nice looking, 71 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:59,879 you know, tall, blonde, beautiful shape, that figure does it? 72 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,199 What's that she's made more money on the stage than she would roll in? 73 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:08,879 Guys like me must be crazy. Maybe would you look at these mug shots, 74 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,839 mister maloney and see if any of these look like her? Let's see? 75 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:25,399 Yeah, uh, this one? No, this one now, let's 76 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:31,319 see now, how about this one? Uh? She was better looking. 77 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:40,240 Here's the last one. I don't know. This might be her hair was 78 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:45,319 fixed right, maybe maybe a little more make I've I'm not sure. All 79 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:47,279 right, mister maloney, thank you. We'll be back to seeing her there 80 00:07:47,399 --> 00:07:53,079 so when you're feeling better, Okay, say, my name won't be in 81 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:55,319 the papers with it, you know, sure not unless you give it to 82 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:59,920 him. I was just wondering the wife might not understand giving a girl, 83 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,920 you know, Yes, sir, we know. Thank you, mister Maloney. 84 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:05,240 We'll be checking back with you later on. Okay, office, I 85 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:09,040 hope you get a line on that day. We're gonna try. Goodbye. 86 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,680 Sure, I messed up, and yeah, that dame's got some of their 87 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,240 motive besides money. So I go some kind of a sadus made there. 88 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,399 Find out what you wanted, saj Yes we did, Thanks nurse. What 89 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:26,920 did the doctor say about Maloney? Is he gonna be all right? Well, 90 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,079 he had a severe beating, but he'll get over that, all right. 91 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:31,799 It's the bullet warning in the back. You'll recover, won't he. 92 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,840 The bullet shattered part of the spinal cord. There was nothing the doctor could 93 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:41,879 do. Yeah, Pta, pleach you. You'll never walk again. We 94 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,919 left the county hospital and went back to the office and got out a local 95 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,480 broadcast for the woman whose mugshot Maloney had partially identified. Her name was Beverly 96 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,159 Allen. She had a record of three arrests and one conviction of two forty 97 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:58,679 PC assault and battery. After we checked in the office, we went across 98 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,440 the street to the crime lab. Lee Jones had already examined the bullet taken 99 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,919 from Maloney's spine and the cartridge casing found at the scene of the shooting. 100 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,000 Both of them bore the same markings as those which had wounded the two previous 101 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:15,600 victims. From the striations, the gun had been previously identified as a forty 102 00:09:15,639 --> 00:09:20,440 five cod Maloney's car was examined. We found nothing. We went back to 103 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,519 the city Hall and checked in at the stats office. Was eight thirty five 104 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:37,799 pm. Hi, Ethel, make that run for us here, Roger, 105 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:46,320 Hi, you coming, ethel f I'm here same. We'll run back seven 106 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:48,320 years on the scene. Yeah, that's right. Did you get any more 107 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:50,600 names? Thank you? Let me check the list for you. All right, 108 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:54,720 Well, the names in dr numbers on caucasion women five feet to five 109 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:58,840 feet eight, one hundred and fifteen, two hundred and thirty pounds, twenty 110 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,360 to thirty years, door, Brunett, assault and battery, mo hitchhacks, 111 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,200 rides and robs, drivers uses gun. Yeah, that's it. Here's what 112 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:09,240 the machine turned out. Nineteen of'em. Good. Here are the names 113 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,759 the dr numbers opposite each one. Fine, very new name and more than 114 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:16,960 the last time. Anything else for the night. No, that's it for 115 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:26,600 now. Thanks a lot at them. Let's go, Yeah, bad start. 116 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,720 How's that? Seventeen of these names we checked and cleared already, and 117 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,919 the other two the one's Katherine Collins, the other one's Beverly Allen. She 118 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:37,240 might tie him. They've got nothing else to go on. Do you wanna 119 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,679 get to the record bureau and pull the packages on these two names? Yeah, 120 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,000 okay, I'll check robbery and see if we have any calls. Right, 121 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:50,720 Hi, Kevin, any calls for us? Just one? Bad Brown 122 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:56,840 wants to see you. Oh, bad mood kind of wants me too. 123 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:05,240 Let's go, fella, Maloney tell you anything. Nothing that helped much, 124 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,320 same old story. No reports on that broadcast we put out for that, 125 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:13,519 Beverly Allen. That's yet. No, you're banking on it. It's first 126 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:24,960 lead in sixteen nights. Here we are Walker Friday, good b oh are 127 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:33,120 you boss? Sit down? We'll take a look. Woman bandit gets sixteenth 128 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,159 victim beautiful hold up, queen, Rob's shoots, restaurant worker. Yeah, 129 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,080 it's on the editorial page too. Something else he from the Chief here, 130 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,000 let it from the Downtown Citizens Committee, another one in the Civic club. 131 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:50,960 They all want answers. Men are doing all I can. Chief. We 132 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,720 got two other teams besides Friday and Romero working the case. Special squad from 133 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,360 Metropolitan Division. They're on it too. I don't care what we've done. 134 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:00,519 We've got to do more. Sixteen nights, sixteen robberies and three shootings, 135 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,279 three victims still in the hospital. When do we blow the whistle on her? 136 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,320 Checked out every possible lead. She we got a wand out on one 137 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,879 suspect. We're checking out another one. Talked to that man Maloney and once 138 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,240 she got last night, Well what did he tell her? More than the 139 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,200 other fifteen that she took? Descriptions still don't match in one respect, Well, 140 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,080 how do you mean? Well? In ten of the sixteen cases we've 141 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,559 had reported the victims tag the girl Hitchhiker is a blonde, long hair. 142 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,159 Four of them say she was a brunette with a short hairdoo. Two of 143 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,480 them tell us the girl had red hair long she's using wigs. That's what 144 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,840 we figured. Checked every place in town where she could have rented her bottom 145 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,240 no leads. What about some of the biggert supply houses out of town. 146 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,399 We've started in checking him and take a little time and you've got practically nothing 147 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,399 on the woman, same gun forty five. Cot Lee Jones examined the bullet 148 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:52,440 they took out of Maloney's spine. How's he doing? Not good? Bullets 149 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,000 smashed his spinal cord. His legs are paralyzed. When do we stop her? 150 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Huh h now, hi, cap'n, what have you got? Pull 151 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,840 the packages on two possibles and this woman hold up thing? It's no good, 152 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:09,679 Joe? Why not? What about that Allen Dame Jale Kansas City? 153 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:13,080 I called him been in for a month and the other one Catherine Collins at 154 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:16,919 checked Seattle, been in the hospital up there for the past three months, 155 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:20,279 and tb ward. Where does that leave you? Friday? Right back for 156 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:24,879 her. We started no leads and no suspects, all right, walkers starting 157 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:26,480 tonight, we cover every street in alley in the central area until we get 158 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,600 that woman. We'd order more men and more detectives from the Metropolitan Division. 159 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:33,639 Right Chief got out more decoy cars. Have the area covered from sun downtil 160 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:39,639 sunrise until further notice. Got that woman right. Come on, Joe, 161 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,960 hot shot, I get it. You're two eleven and shooting at Gatewood and 162 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:54,279 Cameron two eleven shooting at Gatewood Camp. Let's go the name on his driver's 163 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:58,320 license at William Gillespie. We found him fifty feet from the corner of Gatewood 164 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Alley and Cameron Street. His face and head bore the marks of a vicious 165 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:05,720 beating. There was a single bullet wound in his left shoulder. It was 166 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:09,600 conscious when we arrived. She had detected his Brown, Captain Walker and Ben 167 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:13,919 checked the area for physical evidence. I spoke briefly with the victim before he 168 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,039 was placed on a stretcher and carried to the ambulance. On the way, 169 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,519 he lapsed into n consciousness. I went over to where Ben was standing with 170 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,480 Chief Brown and Captain Walker. Take a look, Joe, cap'n find over 171 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,960 there near the lamp full of yeh forty five shell casing, same as the 172 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,679 others. How's Gillespie? Friday? Doc says, you vr, I badly 173 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:37,080 beat him drifteen. She really works him over. Wonder what makes a woman 174 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:43,679 do things like this? What makes a man do it? William Gillespie was 175 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:48,320 taken to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. The shell casing which we had found the 176 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,519 scene was taken to Lee Jones at the crime lab for examination. Had compared 177 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,879 with the others. Jones confirmed that the markings on the bullet which had wounded 178 00:14:56,879 --> 00:15:01,039 Gillespie matched those on the bullet which had been taken from Maloney's. Both bullets 179 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:05,320 had been fired from the same gun. The dragnet operation for the woman bandit 180 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,320 went on. The men in the special detail covered every street and alley in 181 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,039 the central area from eight pm to six am the following morning. During the 182 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,799 next five days, eleven suspects were picked up and brought in for questioning and 183 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:24,559 released after the victims failed to identify any of them. Well, at least 184 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,919 we've got her stop temporarily. She hasn't pulled a caper for almost a week. 185 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,879 You know that doesn't bring us any closer to her. I don't know 186 00:15:31,919 --> 00:15:37,039 about you, but it's got me beat seventeen jobs and she's as free today 187 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:39,519 as she was before she started. Joe, Ben, what'd you find that 188 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 the last four women we question were clear? What about the other men on 189 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,919 the case head? Did they get anything? The Extra and Olson are down 190 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:48,879 at the record ureau being in a minute, they've been not talking to some 191 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:54,679 of the victims. Again, tough one. I would be thinking, how 192 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:56,919 about a composite picture. We got enough to work with artists in the crime 193 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,159 lands, working up a couple of sketches. Now a lot of guessworks. 194 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:03,519 What about the descriptions of the clothes a girl wears anything? There we could 195 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:10,720 start on no other than the fact that she wears flashy clothes. Elsa any 196 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,679 luck, not much? I know the victims have a very good idea what 197 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:17,559 the jam looked like? Is it all? A good looking, nice figure, 198 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:19,440 that's all. Nothing out of the ordinary? Huh? Now do tell 199 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,799 of them to say the same kind of an unusual voice. It's soft, 200 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,120 low, It's about all they can remember. Not much hair. She's been 201 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:29,159 describing three different outfits, is that right? Yeah? Green dress with the 202 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,159 pink coat, white dress, dark blue jackets, bright red sweater and a 203 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,879 brown skirt. Always carries a dark brown alligator handbag, shoes to match, 204 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,440 no hat, not much of a wardrobe visit. Maybe that's why she took 205 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:41,600 up robbery. Now, luck, let's get on this thing. We've been 206 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:44,159 chasing this woman for almost a month now, and she still got the run 207 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,399 of the town. How long is it gonna take it? If we only 208 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,559 had a lead that was worse, find it. It's there someplace. I've 209 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:55,480 never reached a thief yet without digging for him. I'll get it Robbery Olson, 210 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,639 Yeah, right in, I'll tell him. Anderson and Bird Joe wants 211 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,799 to see you in. Ben, Thanks, captain, that's all com man. 212 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:08,880 Yeah, I'd like a day off, wouldn't you. We'll get one 213 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:18,200 when we get this dame right ahead. This thing isn't doing much for the 214 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:19,960 skipper. It's not doing much for our time off either, is it? 215 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,519 That fire department's got the rack at twenty four hours on twenty four Sometimes they 216 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,319 get three days off in a row. That's what you keep telling me. 217 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:34,759 Here we are, Joe, Ben Andy, what do you got checking back 218 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:37,119 on a job out in Hollywood? A right? You were having troubles, 219 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,480 came across this thing, thought it might help you out. What's that? 220 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,039 And one of the picture studios had a burglary about a month ago. If 221 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:47,720 you've got in the wardrobe department, then next door in the makeup. Yeah, 222 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:52,920 let's see here's some of the stuff taking dress coke. Oh, here 223 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:59,119 you can read it. Okay, thanks, red sweater, brown skirt, 224 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:03,920 I live down here. Yeah. Took two makeup kits and four wigs, 225 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,079 two blonde, one redhead, one brunette. That's it. Any leads on 226 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,519 this job? Not so far. Now, we got one thing to go 227 00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:15,720 on. A single footprint, size nine, pretty large size for a woman. 228 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,319 I didn't say it was a woman. A print was made by a 229 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:33,400 man's shoe. You are listening to drag nets authentic stories of your police force 230 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:44,799 in action. One of the most popular misconceptions of the working detective is offered 231 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:48,920 by the fiction writers is the picture of a man with amazing talents for detecting 232 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,599 evidence, analyzing human behavior and motives, and then, almost as if by 233 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,119 magic, fitting all the pieces together to form the solution of the crime. 234 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,960 The real life picture is a little different. The working detective has a job. 235 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,880 In a sense, it's a practical and down to earth job, as 236 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:10,559 baking bread or practicing law. It's his job to protect citizens and apprehend criminals, 237 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:12,400 and that's a job. He doesn't do a loan to assist him in 238 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,519 collecting and analyzing evidence. He has the aid of the crime laboratory to help 239 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:21,519 him identify oddities and suspects or possible suspects. He has the Record Bureau, 240 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:26,079 Layton fingerprints, the Statistician's office, the Ballistics Department, a battery of men 241 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,960 and machines to aid him in reaching conclusions based on fact. Tuesday, October 242 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:34,880 ninth, nine pm. For the past eight hours, Thaxter and Olsen from 243 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,400 Robbery and Ben and I had been requesting all of the sixteen victims of the 244 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:44,759 woman bandit. We asked them one question, could their assailant possibly have been 245 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:48,000 a man dressed as a woman. The majority didn't think so. Those that 246 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,200 did weren't very sure. We followed the lead through. At nine to twenty 247 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:56,240 five pm, we checked in and headed down the hall for the Stat's office. 248 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Do you think it was a man dressed a I don't know one? 249 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:04,880 Male? Footprints, pretty slam ons. Maybe the machines here can tell us 250 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Hello back again, Ethel, Can you make a run for us tonight nine 251 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,440 twenty five? Sure? I think here's a dope right here. I'm gonna 252 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:22,319 try another angle. Yeah, he's sick. Male of occasions, about five 253 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,400 feet eight or nine one hundred and thirty two hundred and thirty five pounds, 254 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,000 feminine features, size nine shoe impersonating women, robbery and assaut that's it. 255 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:36,920 Arm forty five automatic m he hikes, rides and robs drivers. I'll show 256 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,799 anythink you can have a force real make the run and the colater. You 257 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:44,440 have to punch up the master first. With all this information, and I 258 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:47,079 have the machine with the cards, I don't think i'll have it pretty much 259 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,400 before eleven at all. Right, fine, yeah, we'll check back a 260 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,079 little before eleven dinner. I'll be ready. It's good. Come on, 261 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,640 bet you call your wife after dinner. Yeah, I wish I had. 262 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,559 And she's mad as a horny. Kids having a birthday party tomorrow and I 263 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,319 forgot to order the kid. What's she going to do for the party? 264 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,759 Bake one? She have to? And she pulled this gun on me and 265 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,599 told me to stop the car. Well, I'm telling you, Captain, 266 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,440 I just grabbed that gun and slapped that kid just as hot as please. 267 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,920 Collins. This man's name is Amil Collins. Mister Collins is Sergeant Friday, 268 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,039 Sergeant from there off. How do you do? I was just telling the 269 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:25,759 captain here, I'm down here on a vacation. I'm from Sacramento, South 270 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:30,039 Sacramento, and I was driving down your Figueroa street about half an hour ago, 271 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:33,000 picked up this girl hitching the right, and she tried to rob me. 272 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,519 Collins took the gun away from her, sub dude the girl and brought 273 00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:37,799 her. And where is she now? Interrogation from Thankster and olsener with it 274 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,200 a description match not too close. Sounds like you didn't have too much trouble 275 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,240 with her, mister Collins. Well, now that I come to think of 276 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:48,559 it, maybe I didn't. When she pointed that gun, I just grabbed 277 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:52,720 for it and slapped her as out as I could row took the starch out 278 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,559 of her. Where's the girl any identification? None? Thaxter and Olson hadn't 279 00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:59,039 been able to get anything out of her. You want to try, sure 280 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,519 what any thanks? You tell me? See if you can make her talk. 281 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,359 I'll have a stenographer taking mister Collins report. Okay, glad to met 282 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,000 you, mister Collins. I's surprised. I'm only done here for a vacation, 283 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,599 but if you need me just call you better do well? Thanks? 284 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,640 How do you figure that? I don't know see what the girl has to 285 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:23,079 say? Olson, Joe, I want to talk to you before you go 286 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,880 in. Sure did you find and get her to talk. The thakst or 287 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,119 did. Pretty sure. She's not the one. Where after what's her start 288 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,240 said, she read about his wound bandit in the paper, decided to try 289 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:36,279 her hand at it. Needed money, yeah, claims her husband left her. 290 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:38,359 She's pregnant, needs the dough for a hospital. She live here up 291 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,920 the coast Monterey. Got in town four days ago. Stand at the YWCA. 292 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119 We checked there. She's not lying, you, Carl Monterrey. Yeah, 293 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,759 they confirmed it. She left here last Wednesday night. She's not the 294 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,880 one. Where do we go from here? You'll take care of having her 295 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,799 book? Tolson? Yeah, as soon as we get to stay here, 296 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:57,079 you can't find Friday, then this way hustle it you too, Wilson. 297 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,240 What he got ed Orthan looks to eleven shooting. Let's go any detail. 298 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,599 Yeah, a tall blonde with a gun, come on the woman. Bandit's 299 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,839 eighteenth victim was a truck driver. His name Harry Reese. His story differed 300 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:17,000 a little for out of the first victim. The woman was hitchhiking near Alvarado 301 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:19,200 on Third Street. He gave her a rhyme. She robbed him at gunpoint, 302 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,000 slugged him and then shot him through the left shoulder. He described her 303 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,680 as tall, blonde, attractive, and well dressed. He says, sure 304 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,319 have known better, remember reading about the name of the papers. You're sure 305 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,279 that the person who held you up as a woman. I don't get you. 306 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,079 What he means is you don't think it could have been a man dressed 307 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,200 like a ran. Oh no, I'm sure that guy ever looked that good 308 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:44,920 to me. All right, mister Reese, we'll check with you later at 309 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:52,480 the hospital. Okay, we're even that truck plade. Yeah, Olsen's got 310 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:55,240 a couple of men watching it. He's going over it, same old story, 311 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,920 just another version. But she thinks she's spreading it pretty thin. Her 312 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,880 luck can't last forever. It's got me beat how she always manages to disappear 313 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,039 without a trace. Yeah, no, Ben, this way over here, 314 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,119 Yeah, okay, what do you got better? Hustling four blocks down on 315 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:15,920 col fact of shooting just came in on the car radio. Let's go slide 316 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,319 over him. Yeah we hit the sign, Ben, Yeah, the crowd 317 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,160 watch him. Oh excuse her? That all that came over Ben, the 318 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,640 shooting. All they said, see the cab driver, I have been on 319 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:32,000 shooting's working real fast. Let's see address from now Third and East Flower Hotel. 320 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:37,839 Hold on, as is it coming up? Should be to the right 321 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,759 here, Yeah, take a right, that must be it up ahead. 322 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:48,759 I can't see what's that sign say Edgemar Hotel for Young women. Here's a 323 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:56,640 cab driver right over the head. Ay, looks like bloodstains to me here 324 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,000 all over the sidewalk. Yeah, I guess it couldn't have happened any more 325 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:02,079 than five or ten minutes, or I had this fast sea picked her up 326 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:04,440 at Fought and Pixel and I drove her here. She paid the fan and 327 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,079 got out. Yeah, go on. I was about halfway down the block 328 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,440 when I heard a shot. At least it sounded like when When I look 329 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:12,799 back, this dame was down on one knee. He had the door to 330 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,599 the hotel. Hen by the time I backed up as she was gone, 331 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,440 and you noticed the blood. Huh that's right? Yeah. I figured I 332 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:21,839 better call somebody and you tell us what the girl looked like. Oh, 333 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,160 not bad at all, blonde, tall, pretty girl, nervous. But 334 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:26,640 you didn't see where she went? No, but I didn't. I'll get 335 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,640 the driver's name and address, Joe, You and Ben, see if you 336 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,680 can follow that trail, stuff's all over the place right over this way, 337 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:41,440 Ben, Yeah, it's not hard to follow down this alley between the buildings. 338 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:48,039 How does this figure? Let's find out here we go all the way 339 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,160 back here. You got your flashlight? Huh yeah? Here you yeah, 340 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:57,240 this way? Come on, this must be the rear of the hotel. 341 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,400 Oh look, steamanes. Lead over this way to the back door here and 342 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:14,799 let me try. Okay inside, still following, Yeah, carefully up these 343 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:26,000 stairs, second floor. What's the man as you lose them this minute? 344 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:33,359 See anything? Yeah? Stains? Lead on up the stairs here, let's 345 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:40,039 go. I just happened to think this is a woman's hotel and they ought 346 00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:45,599 to keep the back door closed. Come on, third floor, let's hold 347 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:48,240 it. What is it? I thought I saw a door open down the 348 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:59,839 hall? You see anybody? No, let's go this way. Let's see. 349 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,680 Easy trail to follow. This is if they stop here at this door. 350 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,000 That doesn't sound like a woman. Yeah, you're ready. Try the 351 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,759 door first, easy, it's locked. All right, Come on together, 352 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:18,240 now, let's hit it in your what you Joe? All right? I 353 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,880 got the gun? Yeah? Oh he found what we came for. Look 354 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:26,960 still got the clothes on, bron wig, make up everything. Please help 355 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:32,319 me. My leg coll an ambulance it's on the way, take it. 356 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,640 Have a look, Joe and Weggs full makeup. Get closed. Living in 357 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,799 a woman's hotel work was an accident. You never would have got me. 358 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,160 I dropped the gun. It went on. You never would have got me. 359 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,680 Yeah, that's right, mister. You better get the boss in here. 360 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,039 I'll stay with glamour boy okay and Ben Yeah, leave the door open 361 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:06,240 with you. House rules. The story you have just heard was true, 362 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,720 only the names were changed to protect the innocent. On January fourteenth, trial 363 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,359 was held in Superior Court, Department seventy nine, City and County of Los 364 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,640 Angeles, State of California. In a moment the results of that trial. 365 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,920 The welfare and security of your home and your family is a subject of national 366 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,160 importance. Next week national Crime Prevention Week. The efficiency of your local police 367 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,039 department is dependent upon your attitude toward your police officers, not just one week 368 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,640 out of the year, but every day in the year. He wants your 369 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,200 co operation. He needs your co operation for the enforcement of your laws. 370 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,880 Help your officer to help you to live in a peaceful, orderly community. 371 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:59,920 National Crime Prevention Week costs you nothing, just your co operation. James Harold 372 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,759 Sutter, alias the Banded Queen, was tried and convicted on several counts of 373 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:07,799 assault with attempt to commit murder and robbery of the first degree. He was 374 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,920 sentenced to the term prescribed by law. While serving his time in the state 375 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:17,160 penitentiary, he was stabbed to death by another inmate. You have just heard 376 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet 377 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:25,559 comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. A. Wharton, Los 378 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,440 Angeles Police Departments. Fatima Cigarettes, the best of all long Cigarettes, has 379 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:41,680 brought you Dragnet from Los Angeles. Dear Martin Donny Tonight on NBC Welcome Back. 380 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,279 This is definitely an episode that takes an extreme look at the limits of 381 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,960 witness perception. Friday's one statement, when Ben asked what makes a woman commits 382 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:56,759 these sort of crimes? What makes a man commit? Then turned out to 383 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,720 be very prescient and there's an element of realism here. While I don't think 384 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,440 the criminal was right that he wouldn't have been caught if not for the gun 385 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:11,079 accidentally discharging, he wouldn't have been caught at that exact moment, which doesn't 386 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,839 make this a moment of glory for our heroes, but that's not the point. 387 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,400 All it takes when you're a criminal is one mishap for it to all 388 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,200 be over. Those are the rules, and you take your chances. Now, 389 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,880 I will also share an interesting personal development in regards to the show, 390 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,400 and that concerns Herb Butterfield, who I've been hearing every week on Dangerous Assignment 391 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:40,720 for nearly two years, and he also appeared in a lot of Yours Too 392 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:45,000 Lee Johnny Dollar episodes, and then of course he's had a recurring role on 393 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:52,279 the Dragnet radio series as Lieutenant Lee Jones, and then there have been all 394 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,440 these miscellaneous things that I've been hearing, and so I've developed an unusual sensitivity 395 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,839 to recognize her Butterfield now. And he actually did doubles in this one. 396 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:11,720 He played the driver from Sacramento and the cab driver. It was kind of 397 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:15,400 odd that they gave him those parts so close together, But then again, 398 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:22,839 I have listened to this episode several times over the past seventeen years, and 399 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,559 this is the first time I noticed it. Now we turn to listener comments 400 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,720 and feedback, and we have three reviews in the Apple Podcast Store, and 401 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,720 we start with this one from Donald, who writes, Adam refers to himself 402 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,759 as a host, but I think of him more as a highly qualified volunteer 403 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:48,440 docent leading a tour in a museum. He applies his knowledge to provide insightful 404 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:53,640 context, and his passion for old time radio is as palpable as it is 405 00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:59,759 infectious. Lack a good docent, Adam curates the best and points out things 406 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,599 on never would have noticed. It is so great that he's keeping these shows 407 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,319 alive and sharing his hobbies. My all time favorite is Pat Novak. I 408 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:15,480 really wish more episodes had survived. The evolution or change perhaps of Jack Webb 409 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,240 is puzzling to me, cynical to uncritical, the police as flawed, and 410 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,200 bubbling to the police as infallible. I'll write to Adam one day and ask 411 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:30,119 him about this. In the meantime, keep up the good work, and 412 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:37,839 he offers a Latin phrase which I won't try to mangle, but he translates 413 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,759 it helpfully as don't let the trolls get you down. Well, thank you 414 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,880 so much, and I appreciate your comment. And I think that the comparison 415 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:54,599 to the docent is apt. There are people who study and write about the 416 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:01,720 Golden Age of radio with a very academic person. There are also some folks 417 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:12,799 with incredible research knowledge across multiple series and genres. And that's not really the 418 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,599 level that I go for. It's more the things that I pick up and 419 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:23,599 find that are interesting and little tadbits along the way, rather than I did 420 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:30,039 my doctoral dissertation on that. Regarding Jack Webb, I don't think he really 421 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:37,079 changed all that much at all. I would not view Pat Novak as a 422 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:43,960 serious critique of the police force anyway. I think one of the things that 423 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:52,119 makes pat Novak interesting is it takes the sort of conventions of the hard boiled 424 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:59,680 detective story and it amps it up to eleven or actually more like fifteen. 425 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,519 But it's ultimately a genre convention, and Web was not the creator of the 426 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,599 series. Oh, it's hard to put Pat Novak for Hire as a starting 427 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,159 point of what his opinion of the police were now. Dragnet, on the 428 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:22,239 other hand, is a series that Web created and that he continued to have 429 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:30,639 creative control over, and so you can see some of his thinking actually reflected 430 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,960 in the episodes, and sometimes there are points where Web could go to some 431 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:44,320 uncomfortable places, even for me, someone who absolutely loves Dragnet and Jack Webb. 432 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:51,679 Probably my favorite example of this is in the nineteen fifty four Dragnet movie, 433 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:59,800 where under oath for a grand jury, Friday essentially calls for a really 434 00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:06,760 extensive program of the government monitoring phone calls. And this led one newspaper to 435 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:12,119 say, Okay, who are you to blame for this? You can't really 436 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:17,039 avoid blaming Jack Webb. He's the producer, he's the director, he's the 437 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,679 star. Now the writer is Richard Breen of pat Novak for Hire. But 438 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:30,199 still that does leave the question. One thing that's impressed me about Webb I've 439 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:38,079 read his biographies and various articles, is that he was someone who not only 440 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:45,400 relied on police officers for technical expertise, but he hung out with them at 441 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:53,599 his home and I think got to know them and really understand what it was 442 00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:01,480 that motivated them and what frustrated them. And that's what comes across in Dragnet. 443 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:12,840 I think it's really hard to view all cops as a combination incompetent bungler 444 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:20,400 and sadists like Inspector Hellman, when you're actually getting to know good cops and 445 00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:27,840 getting to hear their experiences and their stories. Most Dragnet stories after the first 446 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,280 season were based on case files submitted by actual police officers, and I think 447 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:42,960 that part of the reason for why Dragnet was so popular with the LAPD and 448 00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:50,920 policemen in general is that police officers felt heard. I think is the way 449 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,280 we would put it in the twenty first century, because the series reflected their 450 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:04,559 experience, their frustrations, which really captured and I would say that Webb doesn't 451 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:12,920 treat policemen as perfect. There are some cases involving bad cops during the nineteen 452 00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:19,880 sixties TV series. There was also one during the original run on radio and 453 00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:27,199 on television which was lost to the ages, but thankfully recreated by the Gotham 454 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,119 Radio players who just did a fantastic job with the entire script. Of course, 455 00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:37,360 even beyond corruption, they are mistakes, you know. An episode like 456 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,960 the Big Casing is a great example. Oh, the police do make mistakes. 457 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:49,079 And it's also fair to note that the series was made in cooperation with 458 00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:54,960 the Los Angeles Police Department, so that's going to minimize the amount of negative 459 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:00,760 portrayals that would air. But I think that the overall feeling towards police bums 460 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:07,320 across because of the relationship that Webb had with so many officers and how he 461 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:15,880 really empathized with, understood and captured their outlook and the stories he told. 462 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,400 And onto the other reviews Jonathan Ritz, I listened to many Old Time Radio 463 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,559 podcasts, but this one is the best. Adam has a great deal of 464 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,639 knowledge and shares information regarding shows or episodes that are not found elsewhere. The 465 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,119 quality of the shows is generally good. Trivial matter of Adam's voice or daring 466 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,480 to spread out episodes are best ignored as the value of the podcast far exceeds 467 00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:47,159 these petty remarks and enjoy. And then also have this from Bella. Adam 468 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,000 introduced me to Old Time Radio seven several years ago, and I love it. 469 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:55,079 Great job, Adam, keep up the good work and thanks well, 470 00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:59,679 Thank you so much. I appreciate your encouragement. And then we also have 471 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:06,880 a comment on YouTube regarding The Wife and the Big Escape Betsy Riots Bonnie couldn't 472 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,679 live without her clyde pathetic in my opinion, thanks, I don't think that's 473 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:19,480 an unfair remark. She definitely had shown bad judgment in the past and showed 474 00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:24,679 that she hadn't really learned anything or required better judgment, and unfortunately it led 475 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,119 to a host of consequences for her entire family. All right, well, 476 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:35,199 now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and I want 477 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,800 to go ahead and thank David's been one of our Patreon supporters since March of 478 00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:45,960 twenty twenty one, currently supporting us at the Chief of Detectives level of thirty 479 00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:51,280 dollars or more per month. Thank you so much for your support, David, 480 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,840 and that will do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, 481 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,000 please follow us using your favorite podcast software. And if you're enjoying the podcast 482 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,599 on YouTube, be sure to lock the video, subscribe to the channel, 483 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,639 and mark the notification bill. A quick programming note. This Easter weekend, 484 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,079 we have two Easter specials, one on Saturday, one on Sunday at the 485 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:22,400 Amazing World of Radio at Amazing dot Great Detectives dot net public domain video theater. 486 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,760 This weekend at video Theater dot Great Detectives dot net or on our YouTube 487 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,639 channel, we'll have an episode of Sheriff of Coaches. We will be back 488 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,320 next Saturday with another episode of Dragnet, and then next Tuesday we will have 489 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:44,199 the return of Ellery Queen. But join us back here tomorrow as we celebrate 490 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:51,519 four thousand, three hundred and fifty episodes where No, I didn't do it. 491 00:40:52,880 --> 00:41:01,519 I didn't do it. Uh huh, got who's there? Who's there? 492 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:08,039 He wint up screaming when I'm after them, Cornell, get out of 493 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:13,000 this apartment. Just keeping you posted on the progress of the case. I 494 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,360 don't like rats in my bedroom. Get out. I found this cigarette crushed 495 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,519 out in Vicki's clothes closet. Your brand. Yeah, one of her slippers 496 00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,360 was crushed, as if someone had been standing on it waiting in that closet 497 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,480 to murder. Headquarters, says Harry Williams did it. I say heads quarters 498 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,559 is wrong, and I say beat it. Cornell, get out. Sure, 499 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,519 but you'll wake up screaming many a night before I get through with you. 500 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,239 Howd on it? I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, 501 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,519 do you send your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot net, follow 502 00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:51,800 us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, 503 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:57,400 dot com. Slash, great detectives from Boise Autohol. This is your 504 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,800 host, Adam graham Son and off.