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That's right. It is Exis and
Bros. I'm Dennis fifteen in for our

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Matt Shepherd. It's great to be
with you here. I'm a Michigan sports

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networking. We're going to talk about
the Detroit Lions coming up here right out

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of the gate, and I'm asking
you the question, how much did a

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Green Bay Packers scare you? That's
the question for you to jump right in

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and I'm going to give you my
thoughts. Also, heading into this Father's

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Day weekend, I'm looking for that
saying that your dad had that has stayed

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with you. It could be something
very poignant, it could be something very

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funny. It could be about sports
or otherwise. Whenever I played golf with

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my dad and I would hit a
bad shot, you know, I wouldn't

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throw my club. But even if
I was like darn, you know whatever,

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he would say, Dennis, you're
not good enough to get mad.

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You don't play enough golf to get
mad. What did I say about getting

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mad? You're not good enough to
get mad at golf? That was his

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saying. It stayed with me.
If you got another one. If you

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got one, go ahead and give
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the text call us at eight sixty
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That is the Meyer hotline eight six
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three. I always like hearing from
people over on the west side of the

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state on WMAX ninety six point one. Let's go, I know the game

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is booming out there on the west
side of the state. Let's hear from

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you. Perfect to use the dad
sayings texting in to twenty one thousand sports

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Radio all one word Sports Radio twenty
one thousand, give us that dad saying

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on this Father's Day weekend. My
dad also and this I think falls right

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into the same category. You know, golf is a funny game, and

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you watch the pros and you watch
them te off and they swing as hard

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as they can. And I think
about Scheffler, who's you know, it's

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got his legs look like they're twisted
up and it looks like he's gonna fall

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over, and you know the torque
that he hits with. And then you

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know, you go out yourself and
you try something like that and you hook

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at one hundred yards of the right. And my dad, he was so

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into letting the club do the work
so much so you know that, you

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know, I can hear him still
in my head to this day. When

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I take a swing, it's like, you know, you're swinging it like

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a baseball bat. You got to
just hit down on the ball and you

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gotta let the club do the work. And it's always like nice and I'm

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always thinking nice and easy, don't
over just let the club do it.

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Just let the club do the work. And you know the thing about it

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is, he's right many times as
I've stood over a ball and I've actually

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hit a good shot and it's just
exploded off the club face and it's zipped

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right down the fairway, it's headed
right to the green and lands up there.

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You know what happens. It's always
it's never mean, like you know,

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muscling it. It's always just nice
and nice and easy and it just

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boom. He was right about that, let the club do the work,

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all right. So when it comes
to the Lions last year, at this

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time, people were very bullish on
the Lions. I think everyone was predicting

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the Lions to win the NFC North. They were the heavy favorite. The

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Bears, they didn't have anything going
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had fields the Packers had a first
time starter in Love. We didn't know,

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not even I was gonna say completely. We just didn't have that good

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of an idea on what he was
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biggest threat was going to be the
Vikings, and then Cousins are halfway through

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the season, got hurt, and
the Lions they ran away with the NFC

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North and won twelve games. And
now we sit here in this offseason.

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The Lions are favored again, but
the Packers are right there in their rear

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view mirror and Jordan Love and I
think it was the game that the I

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think it was on Thanksgiving, now
the week before of the Packers won,

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but he threw three touchdowns against the
Lions, and then it was at his

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coming out party. I'll leave that
for Packer fans. Maybe one will say,

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no, no, it was this
game. It felt to me like

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it was the Lions game on Thanksgiving. And then after that with the Packers,

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you know, they close strong.
Love started playing well, and and

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now you listen to the I don't
know, the NFL experts and when they

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look at Love, and I gotta
admit, when I look at it myself,

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he looks a lot like he plays
a lot looks a lot like Aaron

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Rodgers, the way he throws the
ball, the way he moves around,

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the way he operates the offense,
A young, healthy and engaged Aaron Rodgers.

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Engage like not showing up to the
training camps and OTA's and not doing

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whatever Aarons is doing right now,
which I'm not really even sure. He's

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in South America or something out in
the rainforest. Whatever, that's that's his

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business. But I'm talking about the
Packers. Do they scare you? How

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much would they scare you if you're
a Lions fan. I want to hear

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from a Lions fan or a Packers
fan. You know, previous to this

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year, I always I didn't find
it amazing, but it was interesting.

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Lion fans really didn't know how to
act in terms of having a good football

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team. It. You know,
we know about the history, but what

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happened in the off seasons for the
Lions previous to this year was that Lion

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fans were really cocky in the offseason
without having any reason to be cocky.

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And in fact, you know,
like you know, they were the worst,

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the worst franchise, and yet the
fans the off season and for many

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of the fans were like, yeah, I mean, it all goes out

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the window when you actually have to
play and then you lose, and then

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it's you know, damn it.
And then you just wait to the next

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off season. You you wait to
the draft. That's your super Bowl.

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And it was rinse and repeat for
my entire life. And I would watch

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and listen to the Lion fans and
they all were kind of the same.

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That was it. They didn't have
anything to brag about during the season.

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The off season was that was their
time. As soon as they and it

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certainly wasn't the super Bowl. As
soon as the Super Bowl ended, that's

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when Lion season for fans started.
They could, you know, start talking

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about, oh, we can move
the money to land a top free agent.

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They just got you going, oh
Trey Flowers, and it just pump

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you up. And then obviously the
draft, anytime you're armed with one of

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the top picks, that is your
super Bowl. So now, you know,

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it's interesting. I don't even know
how Lion fans, you know,

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they were cocky before now I think
just confident, confident in the team and

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just looking forward to the upcoming season. But the Packers are there, and

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we know that the Vikings and Bears
have their rookie quarterbacks and it's going to

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be the Packers that the Lions are
going to have to beat as their biggest

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contender if they're going to win the
NFC North again. I think everybody believes

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that. How much are you scared
though, of the Packers? I don't

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know if that's a good word for
you. I am I'm a little bit

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scared of the Packers because of what
they have been able to do over the

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years with the quarterback position, with
Farvan Rogers and now Love. It's not

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hard to look at the Packers and
say, this is an organization that just

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you know, this is one of
the premier organizations. And then they're sitting

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here. The Lions had their year. They're in the rear view mirror for

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me, so that is that is
scary. That is a little bit scary.

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But what about for you. I
want to hear from you on that

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With the Lions. We've talked about
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the alliance right now and asking you how

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much the Green Bay Packers scare you. You get the phone number on the

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Meyer hotline eight six six eight three
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I'm at Dennis Fifthy in at XB
mornings. How much do the Green

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Bay Packers scare you? Also looking
for the dad sayings on this Father's Day

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weekend. Yeah, we got a
couple of little text Oh, let's hear

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them, Ben, Let's hear a
couple. Yeah. One is from from

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Peteford, Rockford. It says patients
virtue virtue here. Yeah, there you

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go. That's a that's a good
dad saying. And then this one's from

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Freddy. It says it says,
my father would always say, if you're

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healthy and your bills are paid,
you're the richest person in the world.

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World. Now, I love it. I love hearing ones like that.

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That's better than go get me the
belt, or go get me the something

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about mowing the loan or you know
those kind of ones. Now. Mark

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on Twitter said that Jordan Love is
overrated, and he says that he took

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teams by surprise last year. There
was really no game film of him to

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be studied by opposing defenses. He
will not sneak up on anyone this year.

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Now that's a that's a decent opinion. At first, Mark just said

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he's overrated, and I felt like, you know, that's what a Lions

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fan would say, and you know
that he's overrated. And there is a

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point you have the game film.
Normally, when I'm thinking about you have

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the game film, I think about
a scheme overall on one side of the

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ball, and then you know you're
you're gonna make those adjustments. And you

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know the other teams, teams that
have success, other teams are studying.

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You're studying every team, but then
you're you're studying the team, certainly in

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your division, on anything that you
can do. And yet part of that

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what Love does well, you know, the counter is is that he was

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in there for the entire season,
and then he improved as he went and

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he played well in the postseason.
But there's no doubt that being able to

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get the entire offseason and then trying
to find something You're not gonna just do

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the same things with him, you
know, you're always making those adjustments.

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And the part about him not sneaking
up on anyone, Now, could you

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say the same thing about the Lions. You know you could say that about

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anyone. But that's why if you're
a Lions fan, you feel good about

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where you're at right now heading into
this season. You know that it wasn't

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an aberration. You don't fall into
twelve wins, you don't get lucky to

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win two playoff games. You know
there could be a call and we can

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go back and look at things and
and everything else. You know, you

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you end up being where you're at. But if you lost a substantial amount

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of your team and you looked at
it and or there was let's say like

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the you know, the Lions,
you know the offense was was ranked really

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high last year. If it wasn't
and then it just you know, perked

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up for two games, you could
say, wow, you know they only

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did it for two games, But
you have the entire season to look at

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with the offense being the a top
three offense, with you know, the

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passing game ranked number two, and
then you have those pieces coming back you

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know. The thing to me,
if you are, if I am just

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and I do just like you do, you know, I look and say,

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well, well it was a fluke
and what wasn't and all of that.

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The thing that is surprising to me
about the Lions with their success last

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year is that I've been asked,
you know, what was the key?

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People like to say what was the
superpower for the Lions? Well, their

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offense was the engine. And they've
got an enormous amount of talent when you

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look at at what they have on
offense and what they're bringing to the table.

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But the thing that I would say
that is the key to all of

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it was their offensive line play led
by Piney Sewell of course. But the

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thing that is strange is that the
offensive line they weren't all together healthy last

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year. It wasn't a unit.
If that was a unit that was together

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for almost the entire season, and
you'd say they did not miss any game

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injuries and they did not have any
big injuries, and you know that was

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the key. Well, that would
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was the key, But they weren't
together for the majority of the season.

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In fact, they had nine different
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rag Now with the toe, you
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pick, with Kevin Ziegler. But
Ziegler, you know, when you look

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at him, is thirty four old
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that. You could also say,
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moved on and they're one of the
better organizations. But he was just a

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name to his first Pro Bowl.
That's not nothing last year, and he

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did have the second best passing blocking
grade for guards and all the NFL the

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second best this you know, you
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there. So that, to me, that's the strange part for the Lions.

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Not a fluky part, but that
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say about him is that they have
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need that for Jared Goff. And
yet they had nine different combinations over there,

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so they were able to overcome that
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you know, you go through you
want to say, there's questions and they'll

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have to prove it, certainly in
the passing game and being able to get

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to the quarterback, no doubt.
And they drafted that way at free agency,

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they went that way. I mean, you could see what they have

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tried to do there. But man
on offense, it's a lot of fun.

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Goff has a tremendous tandem of running
backs that he's got a thunder and

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lightning, you know, Gibbs,
the sky's the limit, Jamiir Gibbs.

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After watching him as a rookie last
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Remember, you know, you wanted
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the eighteen touchdowns and you thought,
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so much. But they upgraded.
You know, Montgomery catch the ball.

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He runs as hard, physical runner
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I mean, how much Reynolds are
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think so that they're gonna mess because
I think Jamison Williams, he's You're expecting

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quite a bit more from him this
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a surprise man. Laporta even if
he's got even be surprised at the Lion's

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front office. They liked him,
they picked him, they drafted him high,

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they thought maybe he could play early. Did they really think, hey,

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you need to be the best tight
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that's the idea, that's the hope. But that's got to even surprise them

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as you're sitting there right now.
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of it has to do with the
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that the head coach and then yeah, the quarterback. I mean all of

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that. If you are able to
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no, there's there's nothing scary at
all about the Packers. It's more

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of a confidence in the Lions and
what they have. I get that.

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I think that's I think that's the
way to go. And it's not up

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to a fan to say, well
this, you know, the Packers have

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been one of the model organizations and
just look at how they have been able

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to, you know, find a
quarterback and now look at how they were

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able to put it together last year. I think if you tried to it's

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a little bit surprising, just like
I was talking about with the Lions and

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the different offensive line combinations that they
had. When I look at the Packers

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and their wide receivers, it's not
like they look you looked out there.

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Aaron Jones was out for a lot
of last year. He was great against

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the Cowboys in the playoffs, and
we know that they have moved on and

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they have replaced him with Josh Jacobs, the former Raider. But Christian Watson,

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how many games did he play?
A couple he came back finally,

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and then he had a really good
game and then he got hurt again.

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I think for the majority of the
season, I don't have the numbers in

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front of me. Ninety percent of
the season he wasn't even if he was

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available, wasn't affected effective, and
was bothered by I believe a calf am.

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I looking at Romeo Dobbs or Jaden
Reid from Michigan State and thinking,

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oh man, these guys you got
a really account for them. I mean

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they seem like real, legit number
two wide receivers, just like Luke Musgrave.

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He was a rookie tight end.
Well, he showed some promise,

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but then he was banged up a
lot. So for the it's a little

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bit of a surprise that when you
look at that that really didn't have a

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number one wide receiver with Watson being
hur the tight end that they were counting

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on pass catching tight end, he
was banged up the majority of the time,

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so it was Jones, and yet
they were still able to, you

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know, get within striking distance and
almost play the Lions in the NFC Championship

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game the way they got hot and
the way they were playing, So you

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know, they're really counting on Christian
Watson to come back. You know,

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I pound his name so much.
He was on my fantasy team, so

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I know, weekend and week out
I had him. And then what did

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did he get hurt? Like he
wasn't. It didn't seem like he was

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hurt for the entire preseason, but
then it was like the practice week.

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Next thing, you know, they're
like, oh, he's out with a

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calf, And then he was out
for the first six weeks and then he

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came back and they were ramping him
up for a game or two and then

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he just exploded in a game.
But then he got hurt the next game

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and I don't know did he even
come back. Like I said, ninety

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percent of the season he seemed like
he was out or you couldn't trust him,

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or he wasn't in there. So
the scary part for the Packers where

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are you at with that? So
the rest of the North in terms of

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being scared, I look at I'm
not going to be scared of the Vikings

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or the Bears. Yet. I
do think that the Bears have you know,

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they had a seven win season last
year. Rookie quarterback Caleb Williams,

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I'm not expecting him to just be
like Stroud. I do think over McCarthy

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probably. I mean, there's both
of those teams. There's lots to like

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with their rookie qbs and what they've
been able to put around them. But

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I still think rookie qbs, you
know you're feeling pretty good. If you're

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sitting up at the top, you
know one of those will be okay.

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I would I would guess the Bears
more with Williams being the number one overall

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pick and then the talent that they
do have that they're sitting there with,

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but still feeling pretty good about the
Lions and what they will be able to

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do, and it's bearing out when
you look at anybody that talks about them,

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they start talking about the NFC North, I'm sorry that you start about

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the NFC overall, And yeah,
the first name that's coming out of your

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mouth is the forty nine ers.
They're the favorite they've got. You know

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what, if we're going to talk
about turmoil with Brandon Aiyuk, maybe I

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had I don't know, that's turmoil. Got a contract situation right there,

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but that's about it. But after
that, it's the Lions and we've never

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been able to say that, and
now we can. So this is a

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unique off season and how Lion fans
are handling it, I don't know.

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I would imagine that they've just kicked
it up from one of of off seasons

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of being able to brag and be
cocky when there was nothing to brag about

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or be cocky about, to now
that you can that they've been able to

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take it to that level, it's
different. You really have to ask yourself

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because all of the years you say, when people say, well, how

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do you handle yourself? Lion fans
don't know. I mean they've never had

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they've never been in a situation like
this, so you know, they handle

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it like sitting Max saying, I
don't know. It feels pretty good.

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You can actually say things and point
to things that you know that just happened.

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It's not about this is what you
expect or you know, false hope

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and the different things that you might
say. So that part it's feeling pretty

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good. Now. Coming up in
the eight o'clock hour, whatever sport is

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your favorite, I am going to
have you be a sports czar. You're

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the sports are. You make a
change in your favorite sport. It could

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be a big change, it could
be a small change. It could be

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something that you really think can and
will happen. It could be a long

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shot, but that's the idea how
to tweak sports. You're the commissioner in

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this case, you're the sports are
and you make that change. And for

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years you just do something like this, and you would say things, and

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you'd take of calls on sports shows
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The way things have changed in the
last five years, it doesn't feel

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like that. There's many like there's
crazy things to say, especially when it

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came to college football and say let's
have of sixteen team playoff, let's get

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rid of and you'd say, you
know, let's kind of try to be

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realistic. Let's play game on you
know, play an NFL game on a

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Tuesday and on a Friday. And
you know, if there was one thing,

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and maybe that was the only thing
about the pandemic, that it took

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sports and they had to break the
molds and so many different things. Play

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a game here, play it out
there, play it on a different day,

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try this rule, adjust that.
And you've looked at it and it's

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changed. It's changed the landscape where
you say, why not be able to

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do something like this. It's funny, not funny, but interesting how it

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took something like the pandemic. But
then the other times that you had some

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changes in sports were like the strikes
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hey, those well really well,
I really like how they did that.

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Instead they're just sitting back with status
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