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the Saucerer. Can you describe him well, sir? He was small and
skinny. He had his head was pointed, came to a very sharp point.
He had long green hair. His eyes were a sort of purplish red.
He had large ears which were formed like an antenna. His teeth were
perfect but spread far apart. And I noticed too a jacket of some sort
of spun glass and bright red calic shoes. You say this all took place
in a few seconds. Can you tell me what colored tie I'm wearing?
Sor Sarah? I didn't notice? You mean to say, you can remember
everything about this man from the spaceship, his hair, the color of his
eyes, the clothing he was wearing, and yet after all this time,
you can't tell me the color of my tie. But you didn't come out
of a flying saucer. Hello, and welcome to the show. This is
my last show before I shoot off the States for a couple of weeks,
but there still will be a show for next week. This particular show is
another extra and my guest is David John. Now, David has set up
a new paranormal and supernatural and UFO investigation unit called SEPPI, which we will
hear all about. So hope you'll sit back and enjoy this show as I
introduce David John. Hello, Dave, welcome to the show. We're welcome.
How are you? I'm fine? Thank you, Dave. Yeah,
I think thanks for inviting me onto the show. It's a great or to
be on panel dimensions it is. It is a great enough for you.
It is a good show. No, it goes out. It gets quite
a good lot of listenership, so it must be good. Anyway, we're
going to be talking about SEPPI, which means Supernatural Extra Trescial paranormal investigations,
which is you've set up yeah, and so what what kind of made you
get into that? What? What? What? What? What made you
decide to set that up? I think, like most people that get into
this subject, you're all cold, aren't, aren't you. Everyone has a
calling at some point, they have an experience. Maybe you start off life
not really believing in anything, and then something happens to you you can't explain.
And my calling was at three months old, believe it or not,
and then well, I'd say quite significant experience I had at six years old.
So three years old, I remember being placed on top of a notttoman
piece of furniture, which which if you're not sure what that is, well
and on different countries it's a square piece of furniture. It doesn't have sides
on it. It's about a foot and high off the floor. And my
grandmother at the time, who wasn't very pleased about looking after a three month
child, placed me on this littlement and walked out the room. And my
mother is out of the house at the time, and I basically remember,
and I don't I don't recall when I remember this, but I remember seeing
myself above you know, I'm looking down on my three month old self from
above, almost like I'm floating in the air. You have had any idea
what that was, would you? No? But this is the weird thing.
Well if that's not weird enough, But the weird thing is, I'm
talking to myself in an adult way. I'm saying to myself, just keep
still, be okay. I'm looking out for you. You know, you'd
be okay and I and I'm just watching my little self on the ottoman,
you know, just keeping quite still so I don't fall off the edge.
Because I've had fallen off the edge. It would have hurt three month old
baby, you know. So I don't know when I remembered it. Obviously
I didn't remember that at the time I was three months old, but then
roll on to about six years old. It was before my younger brother was
born. I'm seven years different, so I was definitely probably six. My
dad used to take me to bed if you night, you know, put
me in a bed and he shut the door, and like in the other
kid, I'd be scared of the dark, so they'd leave the hallway light
on for me, and I'd see the light beneath my door. And I
see two shadows of his feet, because he'd always wait a few minutes before
disappearing downstairs. You know, we lived in a very small masonare. It's
two rooms downstairs, since you're kitchen and living room in a two bedrooms in
his barroom upstairs. Very small, so this start was no different, and
he just put me to bed, shut the door. You know, I
saw his shadows of his feet, although on this occasion he didn't seem to
go, and it seemed to stay a long long time. Now, I
don't know, a fairly sleep and my cupman still saw him standing there,
but I don't think I did. I think I was quite anxious at the
fact he was still standing there. And I've got the you know, I've
got the bravery in the end to get out of bed and just go and
see what's going on, because I couldn't settle because the kids kids going to
routines, don't they You know, My routine was I got to bed away
from my dad to disappear, and I kind of settle. I couldn't do
it that night because he wasn't going anywhere. So I opened the door,
half expecting him to be looking down on me. And booming like what you're
doing out of bed sort of thing. But he wasn't there. Nobody was
there, and that wasn't what struck me as odds You know, I'm six
years old. So what struck me as odd is that I realized it was
really late because the telly wasn't on downstairs. I could hear no sounds.
Mom and Dad's bedroom's door was shut. The light was on obviously in the
hallway. But there was a weird tingling sensation I had all around me,
which I now know to be static electricity because affected the hairs on my arms.
You know, all everything was just springling. And there was an odd
smell in the air as well, which I couldn't I've only recently placed what
that is, so I've come sert in a minute. So there's an odd
smell, and then this looking down at the stairs which are dark downstairs,
and just a weird, eerie feeling. And then his voice gets saying,
just walk out above the stairs, just keep just walk out, which means
it's telling me to walk out a parallel line, which means I'd fallen down.
I would fall down the stairs. You've got to follow the stairs,
right, was going to fall, but it was convincing me that I should
just take a step above, you know, into thin air. Really,
I probably struggle with that for I don't know how long a few minutes may
be. But then I did it. I just stepped out, and then
I thought. It always reminds me the scene in Indiana Jones and the Holy
Grail where he's looking at this big ravine, you know, his big canyon,
and then he says it's like take a leap of faith, and he
steps out and what seems to be nothing, but it's actually a whole illusion.
He's actually he's stepping onto solid grounds. When the camera changes angle,
you see it. But that's what that's what it felt like. I was
stepping out into taking a leap of faith, almost my steps again and again,
and now I'm looking down at the floor. I'm now probably a few
feet above the stairs because I've gone that bit further out. And now I
realized I'm moving to the wall. I'm not I'm no longer stepping, and
I'm going quite slow rate against the wall like that, moving, moving,
moving. I'm now starting to think I'm going to hit the wall in a
minute, and I'm not stopping. How's this going to stop? And then
I'm thinking, am I going to fall? What's going to happen? You
know, I have no clue what's going to happen. So I've actually got
nose to the wall and off the while going to stop now, And I
didn't stop. I went through the wall and I see wooden slats behind the
plaster, and I felt a different smell, of different smell. And then
that's it, absolutely nothing, blank, dark, nothing. I've got no
wonderful story or ending to that. It's that's it. I can't embellish it
because nothing else happened that I remember that you remember, I think that's the
important buzz that you remember. Yeah, but I didn't remember for a long
time. Can I interrupt that? Did you actually feel that there was your
physical self or your actual self? Do you think I can answer that one
now? I probably couldn't have done then. So it was years later and
I was working on the building side as a laborer. I was sledgehammering a
wall down from an old house and I broke. I broke through a wall,
and I this what triggered my memory. I saw those wooden slats behind
the plaster. So in the old days, I think, put all these
thin wooden slats and over the top of it. Yeah, And I saw
that, and then the smell hit me. I had this horrible, dusty,
grimy, dark smell hit my nostrils, which is just all the cobwebs
and the you know, it's just the horrible muck of an old building.
And then that siddenly transport me back to when I was six years old,
and I remember the whole thing instantly, and I was like, Oh my
god, that did actually happen. And so was I being spiritually abducted?
No, because I had physical sensations. I saw something beyond plaster, which
would not be possible, and I smelled the smell of an old, dirty
wall. So I had physical sensations. But I can't, also, though,
tell you what it was. I don't know if it was an alien
abduction or it was a dark government project. If it was, why me,
or if any scenario, why me? I think, Yeah, No,
I don't think it was a spiritual thing. It was whatever it was,
it happened. So the first smell I mentioned, I only realized a
few years ago that what that is. My wife asked me what I watched
my birthday a couple of years ago, and I just said, oh,
you know, I've got pretty much, you know stuff stuff. I needs
a lot of money, camera equipment, stuff about that. We're not going
a lot of money, so I thought, I can't ask you for anything
like that. So I just to give me one of those plasma balls.
You know, I love those things. I've never had one. Boys wanted
one just to play with, just like about with. So she got me
one of those. So I'm in my bedroom and I plugged it in and
I'm playing with it like a kid. Miismerizing myself. I put my fingers
all around. Yeah, they're wonderful. But if you play it for a
little while, you will notice an odd disaffectant type smell in the air.
And I realized then that the smell I smell in that hallway and I was
six years old, was ironized air. And that's what the smell of the
plasma ball will give out is it's iron eyes in the air around it,
and it's a weird smell. So if you've got one, go play with
you for about ten minutes and you'll get that smell up in your nostrils.
And like I said, It's like a very faint disinfectant smell. I see,
only I can describe it, really, and that's what I smelled.
So that again made me go, oh god, you know, because you
think I was dreaming. I was asleep. It couldn't have happened. But
why would I remember such a profound event. Years later, and you know,
I'm fifty three years old, I still remember it with clarity. You
don't remember every well. I suppose it's possible to remember every single dream,
but I think the ones that have a profound effects on you, there's that's
something else. So that from that day on, I went and cut out
pictures of UFOs I put in my scrap book. I got into science fiction.
I watched rfur C Clerks of Sterious World of My Dad, which I
loved. That really did open my mind up. That program. Really,
it's a to the wonders of the world. Really, it probably stopped short
of a few things that could have gone into but it's still, you know,
as a small child, it's still really opened my mind. And then
I was that geeky kid gun down the library and getting all the books and
aliens and monsters and spaceships and planets, learning about the solar system and just
yeah, it's just lifelong from there on really, And there's been other things
that have happened, but not that significant. I mean, have you seen
any UFOs in your later years that you know, well you actually think the
UFOs are not some aircraft of some sort. Yeah, yes, I have.
So before moving Towey, I'm now, I used to live in Suburnes
and I lived in the flat that overlooked the Estuary's quite a nice few of
the of the sea there and the Thames Estuary. I was in my daughter's
bedroom, just tied in up and it was it was a summer's day,
I believe it is. There's a bit cloud in the sky. Something something
caught my eye in the cloud, something shiny. And I've seen you know,
those party balloons and things like that before, you know, going past,
and obviously they also got along. The estuary is you know, an
air traffic lane as well, so I'm used to seeing aeroplanes. So but
this thing sort of just sparkled like not not seen before. So I went
into the front room, which has got which is basically floor to ceiling windows
the whole thing the window, just to get a better look at it really
and I observed a small white dot in the cloud, just sitting in the
cloud. Clouds are moving, but this wasn't moving, and I just thought,
well, you know, it could be I don't know, maybe Jupiter,
I don't know. But then it moved down very slowly out of the
clouds. Then it moved back up again. That's like what I saw years
ago, back in the fifties. So I start moving downwards and go,
yeah, it's that very thing, yeah and very tiny. But moved back
into the cloud and then it decided to go to the left, and then
it moved very slow to the right, and then carried on going to the
right before picking up a bit of speed and then going off. And I
was frantically trying to get my phone to work, trying to I did take
some pictures, so I have got a couple of pictures I've managed to zoom
up on. I took video as well, but the video could not pick
this object. It's too tiny. I've tried everything to enhance it in the
video, editing sweet, but it cannot find it. It's a shame.
I have got a couple of close ups of the UFO. I call it
uFocus. Obviously, I don't know what it is, but nothing moves in
that manner, and that was odds And it was only a short time before
that happens again. I was in the front at night when I I saw
an orange light come up to my window, which is odd because I was
on the first floor. I was on the ground floor. And I thought
it was a drone because it was that odd and that close to my window.
I thought, what cheek his SuDS plot got and thrown outside my window.
And it wasn't very big. So my windows don't open to the front.
They open to the side. So I opened the window to have a
look at it, and it moved off, and then that's when I realized
that, oh there's no sound. That was odd too. I still don't
know what that was. I mean, you never know. It could be
sort of keeping an eye an eye on you if you from a lot of
your earlier years, because I do believe that, Yeah, if you do
have these experiences when you're younger, there's something going on and you're you're sort
of on a mission of some sort, do you do you feel that?
Well, Well, when I was in my trying to think where old my
daughter was my older daughter to nineteen ninety six, so I must have been
about twenty six twenty seven years old. I had like like a massive migraine
attack, like the worst one I think I've ever had. I've had it
twice again since then, but that's the first time. It was a huge.
You know, I couldn't look at the light or anything, and so
I took myself off up to beds, close the curtains, said to my
then partner, lot Or, you know, I don't feel very good.
I feel quite sick and nauseous. I've had those and it feels like you're
having a brain seizure or something, didn't it And yeah it is, and
your head's pulsated. You think it's just wrong, you know. I used
to get those panics, I really and then the pounding was just getting worse
and worse and worse. But then I felt that something was going on.
I felt like something was downloading to me and it's blowing my mind. The
pain was from my It seemed like my brain expanding, That's what it seemed
like. I mean, I think my aren't my grains from swelling off the
brain? I don't know. I mean I used to get quite a lot.
Then all of a sudden, they just seem to stop. You know,
yeah, for years, and now I know how bad they can be.
You know, you're laying there with your head pulsating them and thumping.
Yeah, it's terrible. And I found myself shouting. Now. My partner
come upstairs really worried. I was screaming uncontrollably this. I was just saying,
stop, stop, stop, getting out of my head. And she
panicked and she called her friends who in the area, and they sped around
and try to hold me down. There I am laying in my pants,
Dave, I've got two women and a bloke in the bedroom trying to hold
me down. I was literally crawling up the wall. I couldn't control myself.
Did she not think of calling an ambulance? Maybe? Did she not
think it was she did? She did call an ambulance, So I'm not
sure when I can't down. I don't really remember much, to be honest,
from that, but it just seemed like the next day I just had
all this like an answer for everything I think would relate. I know what
you mean. I just felt like I could explain a lot of stuff with
no roof, no scientific backing, because I don't think science can, but
in its general state, I just thought, I seem to think I seem
to know a lot of stuff I don't think I knew before. That's weird.
And you actually you'd actually noticed the changing yourself from I did. Yeah,
and it wasn't welcome either, because it changed. It made me quite
upset and depressed. Actually it wasn't a gift. I didn't ask for that.
I didn't ask for the feelings I had afterwards. So I felt quite
down about things because I just thought, I kept going, what's the point,
what's the point? You know, what's the point of all this?
But I had my daughter, my first daughter, and you know that was
a point. You know, she was my point and she was my life,
and I just focused on not going down a depressed state, just you
know, keeping sane really, And I had another download about seven years later,
very similar experience, but not as painful and not as long either.
And I can't of remember the stuff that. I don't know how it affected
me the second time, but the first time was was worse because it was
just intense, you know. So, yeah, it's some odd things.
And then so throughout my time and getting back to your original question, what
might have made me started. I did visit a few you know you have
and paranormal groups in the local area. Just you know, the internet was
only kind of just talk about nineteen ninety sixty, so the Internet was still
molding. Yeah, it was picking up, but it wasn't really where it
could have been. So, you know, I was still doing the legwork
trying to find these groups locally. And there was one in leon Cea at
the time, and I lived in Sugar at the time, and I went
along and I was just totally discouraged by them. It was just one ego
battle after another. There I say it was, my story is better than
your story. It was. It's build of a few individuals that are fault
probably need help in a professional manner, not to be horrible, but judgmental
when I've been judgmental was quite one of my hobbies. But it just it
was it was just ludicrous. It just wasn't for me, and that's not
the company I wanted to keep. And I'm sure there's a couple of individuals
that are quite genuine, but I just did not want to know. And
when in my early twenties really rolling back a bit, I did a parapsychology
want of parapsychology. I've done psychology, curseure and adult education FeAsS and I
chose parapsychology. I was encourage of the child development, of course, because
that's the mainstream way. And apparently I've already got scored better and got high
grade had I gone down the normal route. But me being me, I
weren't having any of that. So I called mine the need to believe,
and I based it on why on earth, as human beings we have to
believe in something, be it a paranormal or religion, well, you know
anything. We just had this innate need to believe all the time, and
you know it got me. It's quite fascinating. So I've done a questionnaire,
and I've done this questionnaire quite cleverly to see what, you know,
if people had experiences, what they do they read the newspaper, do they
watch the news? You know? I just so it's general questions and every
now and then to be a little sprinkling of have you ever seen anything you
can't explain? So my subject group were doctors, police officers, religious people
at the local church. What is the other group and the UFO group,
so they all got the same questionnaires. I went on to the UFO group,
goum a questionnaire. I got met with quiet, you know, suspicion,
the treatment like I was there too, you know, I was a
spy, spye on them or something, when really I just wanted the viewpoint
on the questionnaire because then I was able. Then I devised a way of
marketing them to see where people were with things. The religious people, unfortunately,
did not want to engage with me at all. Thirty years ago.
I think attitudes were a lot different thirty years ago. Yeah it was years
ago. Yeah, thanks for reminding me of that old I'll get it all
right, But no, I think attitudes have changed a lot from back then
to what they are now. You know. So I didn't get anything from
religious people. I've got a couple of back from the UFO group, which
is disappointing, and I've got more back from the police officers. I got
all back from the doctors, and the surprise and result was it is actually
the doctors and the police officers were more open minded and had more experiences.
So I was quite encouraged by that. I didn't get a great grade from
my faces in the end, because it wasn't the mainstream way, and I
kind of thought, well, I'm not going into psychology because it's rubbish play
at the time, and I just weren't prepared to spend the next five or
six years to earn twenty eight pounds a year if I was lucky, you
know. So I just so I didn't. I didn't go ahead with it,
but it gave me a bit of a good grounding I think going forward.
So I've always wanted to start an agency, not a group, not
a meeting, but an agency that are serious investigators that you know, we
don't hold monthly meetings, we don't do weekly things, we don't do newsletters
and stuff can be a future yet we're there too, you know. I
wanted something to do investigations properly. And I had a friend of mine,
she's a sergeant the local police station where I work, and she goes,
oh, you should go see my friends. They're into all this stuff.
They do ghost hunts. And I thought, you know, I'll go and
check check this out. And we went to some castle I won't name,
so I don't want to sort of single them out in any way. And
I didn't realize it was actually recruitment evening. They were actually testing me to
see if I could be a personality enough to take groups around and the ghost
walks. When I realized that, I just thought, this is ridiculous.
This is not what I want to do. They're not investigating anything, They're
just you know, telling engage. Had to telegost story. Yeah, you
know when you take into this room sort of really get them quiet and then
do this and do that. And I thought, no, I wasn't there
for entertainment purposes. So that put me off and I thought, well,
you know, I'm not ready for this. And then last April I had
an odd experience. It's the first time I've seen a physical object move on
its own, and it's the first time I've been attacked by something I couldn't
see, So that woke me up. I try and cut stories short,
but my wife and I and my child went went away for you know,
to an air beating being suffolk for her birthday in April last year. So
lovely old cottage is it is a you know, it was in the middle,
It wasn't it wasn't detached or anything. It wasn't on its own it's
quite old, but you know, it seemed quite nice. So it's all
well and good. Saturday night, you know, I let myself have a
few drinks on a Saturday night take away. My my my brothers came around
because he lives in Suffolk, so they came around with his family. Quite
love a pleasant evening. They all went and I went to you know,
bofe and child go to bed and I'll go a little bit later. So
my bedroom is the main bedroom's got double bed in it. Door one door
into it, and the only other door in it goes into a second bedroom.
When you go into that second bedroom, there's no other doors. It's
just a window. It's it's a tiny room. And that's when my daughter
was sleeping. My wife is down in the cord on a different bedroom because
I snore, so she said, I'm not doing this tonight. You go
in there. We'll tell you you're not the only one. I'll do too.
So yeah, so I'm like, okay, fair enough. So I
go to bed and in my daughter's room, we took her took her red
light with us because she doesn't like the dark. Eve. So we've got
like this little ladybug or ladybird light that lights on read. So yeah,
she got night like and she has white noise planes, which is just a
digital white noise. It's not real white white noise. You know. It's
not a white noise machine. It's just an MP three basically playing. So
she's had that since she was a baby. So so all that's in her
room. The door shut, so I go to bed. It's quite dark.
I see the red rim around the door to her room. Of course
my doors shut, and I'm laying there and I'm thinking, you know,
to go to sleep. What I've missed from the story is it took me
two hours to get my daughter settled. She did not want to settle that
night, and I was a bit annoyed. I just wanted to go to
sleep. It was about a one in the morning until she actually fell asleep.
I was a bit annoyed. I'm laying and going, oh god,
you know, I can't believe it's in two hours. So I'm just about
a nod off than I hear my wife walk in the room. I'm not
and I opened my eyes thinking what's she doing? And then I see my
daughter's door opening quite slowly, and so now the red light's pouring into my
room, but I still can't see very well. So I just hit my
smart watch, which lights up, you know, just a light. And
I was fully expecting to see my wife and go, what the hell are
you doing? We're going to two hours to get to sleep. And then
I realized she wasn't even there. And then I realized that my door wasn't
even open. And I realized when when I lit the room up with my
watch, that my daughter's door stopped opening at that very second, the moment
I lit up the room, the door stopped opening. Well that sense,
she was up my spine. I leapt out our beds, thinking, oh
my god, and all the hair stood up in my arms and the neck
all sign my head anymore, but it all stood up, and I was
like, and I was a fight mode. Now I've gone into instant adrenaline
fight mode because I'm now like, I've just seen a door open. There's
no windows open, it wasn't a windy evening. My door is still shut.
How on earth I have I've just seen a door open? And then
I'm now going, what on earth is is? And with that, here
was screamed from my daughter. So I burst into her room, you know,
thinking, oh my god, what am I about to see? She
was fast asleep place on the wall, not move muscle. So now I'm
really confuted, confused, so I say to whatever it is, I say,
look, I don't know who you are what you are, but go
away. I didn't ask you to come here. Just you know, do
not go near my daughter. Do not do You're not going near my wife.
You know, We're not here to harm you. Just go away.
And so I sat in bed and now we've got about three in the morning,
and I'm still not asleep because I'm now thinking, God, what you
know what it was that? What was that? I'm gonna have to pack
up my bags and go. You know what's my wife going to say?
I don't really wake my daughter up? And then with that I got the
tingling again, the feeling that something's in the room again but really oppressive.
And I'm kind of half laying up in bed. You know, I've got
about of two pillows behind me, so I'm not laying flat. I'm kind
of at an angle. So I tried to I thought, no, I'm
not having this again. So I tried to sit up, and then something
was pushing me, and I struggled, really struggled to sit up in bed,
to get out of bed. And the only way I can explain it
is if you were laying down in a swimming pool underwater and you have to
try, and you try to sit up quickly. I think the force,
the resistance you would feel was very similar to what I felt. So no,
I didn't feel any hands on me. I didn't see anything on me,
but something was stopping me, preventing me from getting out of bed.
And I to really master every five in my body to get out of bed,
to really push through it. And that's when I really lost my brag
swear on here. And that's where my fight response kicked in. And I
was like really angry now, and I was shouting at this thing, and
I was not challenging it. I was saying, God, show yourself,
and I said you can't, can you because you're weak. You're weak,
you can't do anything. You're weak. So I was kind of mocking it
in a way. I said, go on, do you you know,
show yourself, show yourself. And when it didn't, I was like,
well, how ridiculous, how ridiculous. Just go away, don't come back,
you know. So that's the only way I could feel. I couldn't
physically punch anything, nothing was there. So I probably got about two hours
sleep that night, Dave. So only nights were you're actually therefore was that
sort of just a just a couple of nights? Was it was there four
nights? It was that the only night that something actually happened. Yeah,
yeah, because we had another night to go. Yeah, and I was
thinking, oh my god, if that's the first night, you wonder what's
throughout the next night, won't you? Yeah, that wasn't the first night
We've got there on a Thursday, So Thursday night, Friday nights, Saturday
night, and then Sunday night. We started to come back on the Monday.
This is the bank holiday. So yeah, we had one more night
to go after that, and I and I didn't tell my wife this until
about two o'clock in the afternoon the next day. Just what I was saying
is that some things may have happened that you didn't notice over the last over
the previous couple of days, if there was something there, well, one
thing I did find odds which kind of makes sense. After this happens that
me and my wife have both got lecture toothbrushes, and I fully charged them
before we left, and they normally last about a week easily a week,
so fully charged them, didn't bother taking the charger the very first night we
stayed there in the next moment to use them both trained. I did well,
completely drained, and then our mobile phones kept draining really quick. I
mean, it was normal, that's got normal for my wife's one because her
one's a lot older, but my one, I don't charge about two or
three days at a time, but it kept going down really quick. And
that's before the experience. Yeah, so very odd. So that made me
go, you know, okay, I think now's the time, you know,
because I'm not I'm not having that, you know, I'm not accepting
that, and I wanted to find out what it was and look into things
what it could be. And I'm now fairly confident, you know what I
believe it could have been. And I don't fear it now because I know
what it is. But yeah, so they're they're they're the thing. I
mean, there's there's other stuff I'll be all night talking about, but they're
the most so I think things. So are you thinking it was a poblical
aster or something like that. No, So in the sepiagency, we're not
only here to investigate and carry out proper analysis of things and collect evidence properly.
We follow it the process I'm doing a following pretty much a project calls
at the police for following it in any investigation. So I'm doving a little
bit. But there's a point why I need to explain this really, and
the reason is to say that we've got we've got best evidence, We've documented
properly from the beginning. We when people report saying to us, if it's
an incident, we'll get a witness account from them, very similar to how
place to do a police statement for more witness I do that in the same
way that the police do it, because obviously I'm trained and writing statements.
So I've cookie cut this really to the Sairpur Agency and now I provide training
to my officers and how to do. What's stone is a five part witness
account, so it's structured exactly the same way as an MG eleven police statement.
So why would I do that? Yes, I'm being pedantic, but
I'm also making sure that the evidence is you know, would stand up in
the court of law should it ever need to be that, they're familiar with
the format. They know what the MG eleven form is. I will literally
say to them all these are done in the same way as an MG eleven
police statement, and they go, Okay, We're familiar with that. That's
why I'm doing it. I'm also training my officer and how to do pick
one level training and interviews, so we know how to interview people properly.
And I don't mean an interview such as this, I mean as in a
actual you know, tell me about it, you know, how to make
you feel or what was happening. So we we prepare an interview properly.
So we do assessments as well. So do we need to do an interview
or not? Do we need to do a field investigation? Do we need
somebody else with different skill sets such as a psychic medium or a healer or
shamanic presence or you know. So we're not closed, but you can't go
to the police and say I've got a ghost of my house, come and
get it out. Yeah, we are to serve this point. You are
actually a serving police officer. Well, I know it hasn't sort of been
made opposite at the moment. But because you're talking about the police and there
the investigate, we also point out you are a serving police officer. Yes,
I've been. Yeah, so really so, I've served the National Crime
Agency for four and a half years. Previously twenty sixteen, I did that.
And if you're not familiar with the NCAA, they're very much akin to
the FBI in the States. So the NCAA deal with serious and organized crime
globally and domestically. They follow up the real hardcore criminals, so it can
go from a pedophilia to arms dealing, drug dealing, were smuggling, the
whole whole thing. You know, corruption, anti corruption, so you know,
they quiet. They've been gone off for a long time under different names,
but the NCAA is their latest reincarnation. So I was. So I
was a inn C officer for them four and a half years. I've also
been a serving police officer in the county where I am based, and I've
been a police officer for ten years. I'm still serving, which I really
really enjoy and which is why all the ethics that I do for SEP agency
and the training is just literally been lifted from them and adapted to our needs.
Obviously, I don't need to bring any of the law stuff into the
into the play because anyone that we interview or we take accounts from, they're
not under any caution as you would be, you know if you broke a
law for example. No, they have their rights Richard. However, that
said, there are parts in it, say, you know, in an
interviews who do so, like before we continue anything, you want to tell
me, you know, are you involved in any forger activity? You know,
we just give my chance to own up, so we're not wasting it
selverag time. So I do give that opportunity. But no, it's not
cautious, not a law for order or anything like that at all. But
we do it in that manner so the evidence can be used. So we
will have a witness account, we'll have an interview that will be recorded,
and unlike the police, the witness account is recorded for safeguarding, because I'm
very much about safeguarding for not only from myself and my officers, but for
the people that come to us the subjects, because some people do need that
extra bit of help, you know, they some people are struggling. Some
people a struggling because they're experiences. Some people are struggling from mental health disorders
that have come from childhood or you know, from birth or medications. So
we're all about safeguarding. So we do say to the subjects that are you
happy for us to record you, either video or audible, but it's got
to be recorded. And if they say no, we just don't go there.
Because what the last thing I need is for one of my officers to
be inappropriate to someone or vice versa. Yeah, accusing us of things or
so. I never said that. So, and I've already had an example
of that someone has already questioned something that they actually they told me information that
they then questioned when they saw their account. Give them back to them,
you know, because I give it back to them for them to sign off
that they've approved it. And they actually did give me that information, but
that that subject forgot that they gave me it. But I had a recording.
I said, I'm quite happy to share the recording. Oh sorry,
yeah, I forgot. So as a servant police officer, that can be
very bad for me had I not recorded it, because they could have gone,
well, I figure you use a police system and find that out about
me and I could be under professional standards before within a blink of an eye,
I mean that I'll be suspended immediately. I mean I won't find anything,
so I'd never do it obviously, But you know, if I didn't
recall that day, I could just open myself up to a world of pain,
which I just don't want to do. And even to the other SEPI
officers, I just don't want to do anything similar for them either. And
you know, they're all, you know, working people, professionals in our
own right, So we are looking after ourselves and we are looking after the
subjects. And I don't I don't know any other paranoral group really that have
that mindset. You know. They may go along with the psychic meeting.
They're are what's going in your house? Blah blah blah, yeah, and
go off again and then probably never see them again or touch base with them
or or have any concerns, you know, because and I'm I'm quite used
to having difficult conversations with people if I have to, So that does If
I do believe that there's nothing paranormal going on, I will give a reason
why in very plain English. I don't think it's paranoral because X, Y
and Z, and it may be that the Z is and I also think
you need to go and you know you need a professional help that we can't
offer because we're not doctors. So we are there to try and you know,
help people along. And if we've got something credible and fantastic, you
know we're going to You're going to know that if we've got if the Separation
is presenting you with evidence of something paranormal or extraterrestrial or supernatural, you know
we've done all our due diligence and it's it's going to be pretty good evidence
as best we can. Doesn't mean we're fundal to being lighter, of course
and tricked, because it can happen. Still, we're not wet, we
don't have X ray vision to say things, but you know we'll you'll know
that our quality of our data and information is going to be good. So
I guess if that happens you you have taken things as far as it could
be taken, and you're better take any further, would you? Because there's
something it's impossible to follow up on, isn't it. Yeah, something dre
and some things are not ready to come out yet either that we're just not
ready. I am mostly conscious of the fact that you know, I am
a government I am a government contractor as well. That's what pays my bills
maney at the moment. So I am mindful that people may think, well,
he works for the government. He know he's been in the NCAA and
police and government con but I'm not a government plant. I just want to
get that out there. My interest has not spurned on by my professional laugh
here, I was accused of that once, being a government plant. I'll
tell you about that one day. I have to be you know, I
have to be careful. I have be professional because obviously I don't want to
bring the government or the police and any disrepute at all, which is why
I do things in a professional manner, and I want to present ourselves in
a professional manner and would never, for example, you know, belittle anybody
on social media. And I've already had a case where unfortunately the evidence was
against. It was against what the subject was saying just a bit that way,
and the evidence was was too too much and that subject did not like
that. And I had really good concrete evidence. By the way, It
wasn't a feeling. I had it physical evidence, and on your site can
on your SEPI site you can see some of the evidence, which which will
show We'll tell everybod about that at the end of it. Yeah, so
I said to the subject, sorry, this is I know you're making this
up because the images you've given me, I've done reverse image search and I've
found them elsewhere. And then not of the locations that you've said, and
things like this, you know, so and then and then subject got very
angry and annoyed. And then she she went onto social media andpletely, you
know, said lots of awful, terrible things. And as a place office,
I've heard it all quite frankly, he's literally all with the duck's back.
But it's not the image I want. We're not saidious, you're not
there to debunk or to make anyone feel stupid. And so all I do
in that case is that I don't, you know, I don't respond to
the messages. I just you know, respond to the person privately and say,
look, you're only harming your own self image in this way and really
winding yourself up and making yourself quite angry when there's really nothing to be angry.
About and what I then do, I may pull that case off the
website just for no reason. So we don't have loads of cases on the
website because some of them I can't put on. I don't. We're not
there to point fingers at people deliberately, but when it's really blatant and they've
been making money out of it or trying to get credibility out of it,
then you know what, I will sposed, Yeah, they've got to be
and I will say so. Which brings me to my Jerusalem UFO incident video.
So if you want to know the depth or the depth we go to
and investigations, go watch our YouTube channel, SEPY Agency. At SEP Agency
YouTube, go look at our channel, find the one about the Jerusalem UFO
event. So don't feel aware of it. Dave. Back in twenty eleven,
in the city of David's only twenty eighth, one o'clock in the morning,
some people videoed a bright orb come down slowly from the sky a genuine
thing. Yeah, me too, and it hovers over the Dome of the
Rock, which is you know that the very religious structure there in Jerusalem.
It started off as King Solomon's Temple. In fact, by King David's through
King Solomon, is meant to be where the ark of the covenment was housed.
That's why the temple was built. Temple Mountains, it's also known,
and it's been destroyed many times thout history by the Romans and seventy BC,
I think one of the last ones. You know, it's been destroyed a
few times. So what's left and now is the base rock. The temple's
gone. So what you see now this beautiful building, the gold plated dome
by the way, it's quite a lot of money sitting up there. But
what you see there is not the actual original temple. It's thousing the original
flagstones. And in the eleventh century the Crusaders went there, the Knights templar
and took out residents, and their cover story was we're here to make sure
Christians can come and worship in peace and not get you hijacked by by Muslims
at a time, so they're there to uphold the lawn and keep the peace,
pretty much like police really and those days. But there's alsoyther stories they
were there to either find the arkad of Govenmant or that had had discovered the
arcad of Covenant amongst other religious artifacts. So, and they were very powerful
order as you well know, a lot of money, a lot of power
until Friday the thirteenth coming on. Of course, King Lewis done that to
them, I think. So that's why we're Friday the thirteenth, beca is
on that day. I think it's King that when they're too powerful, let's
go kill them all. But that's another big story. As you all know,
we're not going to that. So going back to our u folk,
So it is hovering now, it flashes twice and then it it sends very
quickly and the blink of a night, it's pretty much gone. And you
see like people you know have filmed it. So I've always, like you
said, I've always thought, God, that looks really amazing. That's true.
Yeah, that's especially it's the film from the other side of the town
as well as did it by somebody apparent. Yeah, that's right. So
I've always been fascinated by that piece of footage and I've always thought, well
that's real. Then that's quite significant. You know, we really should be
taking note of this. So I in January of this year, I dived
into that and I've found seven different videos of the incident. I actually I
actually found an eighth from later on, but it was so rubbish I just
didn't want to feature it. The seventh video is bad enough, but I
found seven videos. So I've been learning video editing software by the way,
since October last year, so I used d vincuy Resolved nineteen as it is
now the new version, and I'm pretty good with it. In it I've
got a huge many years of it backgrounds. I've been a web developer,
web designer, programmer, network administrator. I've done the whole thing, so
I'm pretty technical. So I pick up the software. It's learning new stuff
for me, but I'm still can get my head around it. So I've
used that to analyze these videos. I've cut them down, I've chopped them
up, nchronized them all. I've extracted the audio. I put that through
a different piece of software to listen to the audio and isolated isolating it properly
cutting out background noise. The evinually resolve can do all that too, is
really good, so I've really cut into pieces. It took me nine weeks
to go through this, so my fifteen minute video I thought I was doing
actually turned into a forty nine minute video. Because as I kept going along,
I kept finding anominees. I've kept finding that piece of jigsaw it didn't
match. I kept finding another problem, and then I the SIP agency,
I'm proud to say, found two pieces of crucial evidence that I've never been
spoken about in thirteen years. And I think it's because no one's ever noticed
it. But I have because I methodically went through every frame of those videos.
It took me many weeks, and I then discovered that the first video
which will hit mainstream media had been views and he's a very famous one.
You can see a guy standing there in the dark holding up his mobile phone
with another guy staying behind. What he feeling this, and then the object
comes down. The guy that uploaded that is actually on another video taken by
students, So he apparently appears to be in two different places, nine kilometers
away from each other at exactly the same time. And my video will show
you that guy being in two places because he stupidly filmed himself driving the students.
In video four, since it's the full video, he is a driver
in the car, but he's also the man on the hill taking a video
at the same time, and I've got a lovely shot of his face in
the car, and I've got a brilliant photograph that I've taken from Facebook and
compared the two. It's the same man, without a shadow of the doubt.
No one spotted that. And I don't know how he's made that such
a fatal mistake either, because guess what he does for a living. He's
a film producer. And the other guy in the video, which I call
video two, so it's from the mobile phone, here's his friends and he
teaches film production in a school in Israel, so they're both now in and
they're both actors by the way, as well. And then I found out
the students that took the full video it's a third or fourth coming, which
one I label it now, they're all film students. The evil parting up.
Yeah, and they're not only are they film students, they're film students.
Talked by the guy had done Video two. It gets ridiculous, And
you've got another video film from a hotel room, hotel balcony, which is
all shaky. And I know that shakiness is an effect you apply and Dvinci
resolve. You can add camera shake quite easily. You can adjust it.
As soon as I saw, I knew that was that has been added.
And then and then the new the other piece of bomb show evidence which no
one's ever picks up on. So videos five and six were filmed by American
tourists. They were literally on the wall that surrounded the temple and it's bearing
much on one in the morning, one am, and these American tourists are
there and they're filming it and they see this big object. Oh my god,
they go. You know, you can hear them talking and the excitement
of his RFO. And then we have this wonderful lady. He's got this
wonderful Mississippi accent, which is I won't replicate, I don't insult any Americans,
but but you hear it clearly say in video five, I've seen these
in Mississippi before, but never like these. That's what she says. She's
saying that in video five, as the object is hovering above the dome,
before the two flashes and before it takes off. Incidentally, in video five
there's no two flashes. They seem to have forgotten about putting those in.
But never mind. The point is, she says it as the object is
still hovering above the dome just before it flies off in video six, which
is taken by the same group of tourists, right next to the other lady.
You do you do see flashes this time, but you hear the lady
from Mississippi again because she's a bit more faint, because she's probably five or
you know, four or five people away now, But you do hear her,
and you hear say the exactly the same phrase. You see. I've
seen the Mississippi before, but never like this. However, she says it
in video six after the object is departed. Yeah, and if they're standing
together. There's no way on God's Green nurse that she can say the same
thing in two different at the two different times she said it when you're UFO
was there, and then the other video she said it after the UFO departied.
That's not possible. So I've done some morning and analysis on the audio,
and I found another American lady given the game away at the very beginning,
and she says, wouldn't it be good to come back at night time?
Yeah? Of course they are, yeah, night time. And then
then I listened even closer, and I could I realized there's a lot of
background noise, like a lot of day activity. There's cars, there's wind,
as people walking about. It's too busy for one o'clock in the morning.
So no one's ever presented the evidence before. Go watch the video.
You cannot deny it. I've I've presented the evidence as such a methodical manner,
even going down to measuring the objects. I've even worked out a way
to measure the object too, using the dome as a measure. And the
way of you know, the ef it's presented is exactly how said people you
know, look at every piece evidence we get. Would be methodical, but
we'll have to always go in skeptical, but always have an open heart.
I think is really important. And that's what's kind of set us aside from
maybe other groups or even the scientific community, because scientific community are not open.
They don't have open hearts, and if they do, they don't get
their funding and they've all got bills to pay. So I get I get
their fear. I understand it. I actually don't believe it's their fault.
You know. I have sympathy for them. They've gone to career where they
thought they're going to help change the world, and in fact, what they're
doing is really just keeping it repressed. And that's the real that's a crime
and shame. But that's not their fault. That comes from above that it
starts in day one of their training at university, then being indoctriated into a
system from day one. So to me, a PhD or DOT to title
means nothing. It just means that well done, you followed the program and
you know how to answer, how to propagate that in the words that they
want you to use, and in the manner that they want you to investigate,
in the manner they want you to conduct yourself. Those kind of cages
mean nothing to me, absolutely zero, And that's the shame of it all.
If I could call myself a doctor, I think they can give me
some title. The doctor is only is given by an organization. So I
think maybe said should give out doctrins. Now, what do you think it
could come to that? Couldn't it? Well, at the end of the
day, that's all they really mean. It means that you're good at following
a program, and some people can't do it. Some people just cannot follow
the plugram and they don't they don't follow, they don't finish their study.
They don't. It goes too hard. I can't do it because their brains,
just the brainers, can't you accept what's going on. So yeah,
unfortunately, I know there's going to be doctors and all sorts of academics out
there. I think this guy is talking aout absolute nonsense. But I'm afraid
that the nonsense has been going on far too long now, and we've got
far too many people now that have kind of waken up, and unfortunately for
them, the whole the instance that happened in twenty twenty, I think you
know what I'm talking about. That great big thing that happened to all of
us, Yes, which we're not going to mention, was we're not going
to mention, but that, unfortunately was the downfall of science and doctors and
in the space was lost. A lot of it has been lost by lots
of people that a lot of people just don't trust him anymore. Dinner,
the faith has gone, Dave, the faith has been lost. And that
is a real bad shame because there's probably lots of doctors that started their careers
in good faith to help people. There are still good doctors out there.
There are lots of doctors that spoke up, So hats off too. Well
done. The NHS as well here in the UK, you know, were
very going along with it, but we had the think called the ninety nine.
But you know, we had a big march on the NHS. They
said we're not doing this anymore. And they to me, they're the heroes.
They're the only heroes in the NHS at that time, because they're the
ones that stood up and said no, you know, this is not right,
We're not doing it. And well done to any of you that were
part of those marches, a part of the organization, because that's fantastic.
But nowadays it's in Tatas and I think it's probably through design, but he
isn't Tatas. So going back to our lot of the academics, loads of
studies been done, paranormal loads of work. Why do they keep getting bad
raps? Why do they keep getting threatened to loser they're funding? It comes
from a high salt, yeah, because there's there's hours out there that don't
want us to be how we used to be in the old days, in
the golden years, as I heard it once been called a days where we
could manifest things. You know, and we could. We were we were.
We didn't know sickness. It wasn't possible to be sick, you know.
And the temperature was always good where we were. And it's just,
you know, we had abundance, we had love, we had community,
and we just we will help each other. There was no money, didn't
need money. Don't need money for something you can just make yourself. We
had, you know, free electricity. We had probably wasn't even called electricity,
it's just a power. We had a free use of power, a
source from the EF, the for itself, from dark matter, whatever you
want to you where you want to bring it down from. But we could
harness all that stuff. And this something went very wrong, you know,
I say went very wrong, But I don't want to steer too much into
that direction at this point. But I want to sort of give you a
background about why we're more open, open minded. There may be some other
professional outfit would be, but we're going to still do it professionally because I
believe that if we want the academic world to take things seriously and to trust
us, that we need to kind of present the evidence in a good way
and a good practice and something that's quite water tight from the beginning and not
like Swiss cheese as it is now. So the long term objectives for second
isn't about just us getting more and more officers and doing more investigations. Yes,
that's what I want short term. The long term is about affiliating ourselves
with other power investigation teams and asking them, will you share your information in
data with us? Why will you put our badge on your website? Will
you affiliate with us? Or or even still if they want to start start
a SEPIE branch in their country or their countcies, we can you know what
come to us, and we look at starting a new branch where you are,
and I can get the training remotely if I have to, and set
out the standards and just big gatekeeper for the policies and just make sure everyone's
doing the same thing. And the reason we've got we've got to start formalizing
this stuff is so that things can be measured properly. For example, you're
never going to see me walking around with a p K meter. I'm never
going to do that. Don't believe in them. You're never going to see
me using a spirit box. I don't believe in them. I know from
a show you did recently know, Dave, there was a guy talking about
a different technology that he was using. That fascinated me because that was on
a different wavelength. There it was, and I'm more interested in that because
at the end of the day, well we'll win. And he's of a
scientific background as well. Yeah, and I did listen to him, think,
actually, this is not just another spirit box. This is the something
totally different. And I really want to remember the name of it. It's
gone out of my head, but staticom, sorry, Static, that's it,
thank you. And the guy's name was Ron ron Yakaviti Viti. Well,
that that piece of work I'm actually open to because it's different. The
ways explaining technology is very different from a cheap spirit box you can buy on
eBay or Amazon, and those things are just I mean, i'd love to
say to the guys that make those, show me your source code behind the
firmware. I was a programmer. It's still being developed. Actually, it's
an ongoing development that's been going on with Yeah, Static, I've got that
impression. But I'd like i'd challenge anyone who makes spirit boxes out there making
money out of it too, with all their flashy lights and things. Let
me see your source code. I bet you I find as microphones in your
boxes and algorithms that you're using are taking words that people said maybe ten minutes
earlier, regurgitating this stuff out again a bit later on. So go oh,
it said my name. Of course it said the name I heard you
about ten minutes ago. And the algorithm inside is doing that, you know.
I just we're not, necessay saidiated to use the Spirit boxes. I'm
just not brought on it. But that said, I'm always open to be
proved wrong, proved me wrong, and then that evidence will be used on
our website and be used as a basis of an investigation, even an open
investigation, and we will go with it. I mean, maybe we will
investigate spirit boxes. Maybe we will, yeah, yeah, And maybe we'll
investigate those teddy bears that light up. You know again, I'm not I
don't buy it. Yes, spirit maybe you move towards different frequencies, but
no, I don't think these things are on the right frequency. Don't think
they're doing it. And forget having those mobile phone apps, forget those completely.
They're totally programmed, even the ones that the stick mean right, just
yeah, they're good at finding out figures, but you're never going to get
You're never gonna get anything out with mobile phone because shocking disclosure here, mobile
phones can't pick up ghosts. They never will do. They don't even tell
the temperature properly. They don't have those things inside them. So forget those
things. We're never going to be using them. But again, prove me
wrong. You know. That's the challenge to anyone out there that thinks,
oh, don't say that listening to this saying, oh, I use apps
at the time and we get some amazing Yeah, we'll just get in touch
with you. You build the man, get in touch with you. Yeah,
prove me wrong. And yeah, if you want to go and intain
yourselves in the dark room, you feel free. I'm not going to stop
you. But don't present that to subsidence because we aren't be listening. When
we go and do a haunting. We don't go in with lights off,
for example, because why would you do that. All you're doing is enhancing
the senses that really shouldn't be engaging because you've got to try and capture these
things on video, you know, and that's hard in itself because some of
these things don't vibrate in a frequency that your camera's going to pick up on.
You might see it, camera might not see it. I do believe
in that because some people are tuning things. Some people are not. But
there are things caught in camera, which means therefore they must at some point
hit that frequency where the camera can catch it. Because things have been caught
on camera, things have been caught on digital recorders, things have been captured
on audio tape, like in my little box of tricks. I have a
couple of digital recorders audio recorders, but because they can press sounds, I
don't rely on them. So I've got a nineteen eighties tape deck as well
that I brought from a second hand shop, and I bought some tapes.
Luckily it's still making them. So I have audio tapes because they're made of
silicon. They pick up sound far better than the digital one does because it
doesn't compress sound. Therefore, I can then put it into software without the
compression rates and I can listen to it again. Also, I can hit
playing my tape deck and compare it to what I'm hearing on the audio software.
Yeah, I can comply compression tip later if I want to keep full
size down. But yeah, so you've got to measure things of ordinary pieces
of equipment. I do have an EMF meter, but only it's only an
industrial normal one. It's not a Ghostbusters one. You can see mister Staypuff
behind me, shout out to the Ghostbusters out there. I'll just pay I
can see David the screen and he's got a little puppy, a little stay
puhmallow man from Ghostbusters franchise. Actually looks actually from me, that's what you're
sitting on your head though, actually it does. Actually, I just realize
I've got on my head. I might have to move the next time I
do something like this. So the tools of the trade, you know,
I've got a laser measurer so I can measure the room. I've got a
temperature reader, a laser temperature gauge. I've got the device that measures ultrasounds.
You know, the sound way that we can't hear. This thing picks
up on so we can hear things that maybe are causing us unease. So
sounds can cause you unease. So ultrasound, in infrasound, that's that's what
I was looking for. So infrasound can actually make you feel sick and nauseous,
or feel like somebody else there because because it's just vibrating and messing with
you a bit. Yeah, you say that, we were. I went
on what you call the ghost talent a couple of weeks ago. I told
you about the school museum. On the first room we went into, I
started feeling nauseous. So I don't know what caused that, but I had
to. I mean, after that, I came out and to have the
orange juice and sit there for a little while, and so it went off.
Infrasound can be caused by a vibration caused by something else. It could
be a factory across the road that has mechanicals that are going to a certain
rhythm. It could be an underground reservoir. It could be water. So
if you've got someone there good with thousand rods, maybe they should be looking,
you know, to see as a water source beneath the floor. Because
it's water beneath It's all over the place. People just don't realize it.
So the infrasound can be caused by literally fast running water as well. So
I've got a gay, I've got a meter that you know, looks for
this sort of stuff and ultrasounds to sound at the higher end of the spectrum
that maybe animals may hear that we don't hear. So all my tools of
the trade are not ghosts, not catching ghosts. I don't have a ghostbuster's
box that opens up and sucks them down. It's just about rulling out the
normal stuff, because that's what's in investigation term. It's called baselining. You
have to baseline. You have to go, right, what's the normal measurements
of this thing? And then go back there later and go has that changed?
You know, has it changed from the last time I measured it?
So you can't do it once. You've got to do it two or three
times to measure a place, and it doesn't even have to be the same
day. But you just got to get a record of it. Hence going
back to my evidence, you know, it's got to be recorded properly.
It's got to be stored somewhere, and it will be at the moment.
I'm talking to some guys in India who are going to be writing me the
SEPE database. I don't I haven't give it a name yet, but I've
written it already in VBS scripts for Excel. So I've got an Excel spreadsheet
I used. I've written this system on where I can log all means I
didnce. It creates a new reference number. I add all my comments onto
it. You can attach files to it. I'll blow files to it.
You can log on as your sippy officer I D you know, and you
can log it on yourself. The problem with it is I can't share it
with anybody because it's Phoebe scripted doesn't run on one drive or not on the
web doesn't because the macros get disabled. So I'm converting that basically to a
web front end and to an ESCRL back end. And I am a programmer,
could do it myself, but it's a contatically far too long an amount
of time for so I'd rather pay these guys in India just to give them
the spec. They gave them a new pricess that actually something might be going
for that. So they're going to be writing this for me, which means
it accessible to everybody anywhere, very much like Dr Grier's you know, disclosure
projects, where he's just released the dp I A. I think it is
database with all the categorized UFO sightings and crash landings and whistleblower accounts. Fantastic.
You must go and check that out. There's a link on our website
for that too, Go and visit it. And that's all well and good.
That's thirty three years of hard work he's got there online for you guys
now, of digitizing paper documents and all sorts of things. So we are
you might be somewhere. He's doing it already. Why are you doing it?
I'm doing it because he's not doing supernatural paranormal. He's just focusing on
UFOs and crush retrievals and government cover ups, which is brilliant, good,
brilliant piece of work. We're doing the whole spectrum. We're going to be
doing the UFOs, the deductions, the cryptoids, supernatural events, paranormal you
know, ghosts and haunting's possessions. Yeah, everything, the whole spectrum.
And if GREC could let us plug into his and share that data, the
vent but you know, that's that's the that's what we're trying to achieve because
I believe quite a lot of these things are connected. I believe, I
think. Yeah, so once you've got good data throughout the whole world,
coming to one place, I'm really good with data, so I could start
making charts about where maybe hot spots are or where more types of activity are
happening, you know, like the four one one investigations I was missing people.
You know, he done really good work on plotting where these people are
and there are hot spots, and we could do that as well with possessions,
hauntings, cryptoids, excitings, all sorts of things, and then open
it up to the general public once the office is going to be for the
officers to begin with, and researchers, because in the SEPIOC we have SEPI
officers and SEPI researchers, and the officers are trained to do witness accounts and
to do interviews and they're allowed to own and run a case where researchers.
And by the way, they're also security checks as well here in the UK,
so if you if they don't already hold a government security clearance like I
do, I I open for a security clearance myself. So they're all so
when they go Tong's house, they can have a bit more reassurance that you
know, they at least you know they go to the background check done on
them researchers don't need that because they don't go to people and do these things
on their own. They don't own cases. But there the researchers bring something
else different to the table. They're probably experts in a subject matter, probably
really good at the big foot subject, or they're they were a lawyer,
or there were a doctor, or there are scientists in something. You know,
they've got something to bring to the table. Officers will be doing a
certain amount of research as well, weren't they. Oh yes, otherwise You'rejeff
relying or somebody else to do everything else for you. You got to Yeah,
I mean SEPI officers got a lot, a lot on his plate.
Not only has he got to conduct or he or she obviously conduct the interviews
and take the statements and get the evidence and also bring it to the table
to say, look, it's do an assessment because it's not just done on
your own. Everybody in separas a view on it. They then got to
do their investigations as well. But we've got the researchers that can just go
take that stress off you a little bit. So if I say, for
example, can you go and look at the Battle of Edge Hill sixteen forty
two for me. Literally, I can go and ask that person that person,
yeah, exactly. So that's why I've got researcher. So the researchers
don't and reasearch can come along to investigations. They're not excluded. They're just
not allowed to be running them on their own, that's all. That's because
they're not trained to do certain things, that's all. If they want to
be officer later on, they can be. So there's no rules around it.
So to join, to join the Set Agency, go to our website.
There's a way of contacting us on there. Go to our form,
let me know that you're interested, and you'll get sent You'll ever probably an
now chat with myself to begin with, and then I'll send you forms that
are new filling in for research or anyone anywhere in the world. Is this
is open to Isn't it not just in the UK? Yeah, if you're
listening to this anywhere anywhere, you can just get in touch with Dave yep
and I will be I'll be open with you now because the code of ethics
that we go by is about honesty and transparency that we will not take everybody
on, Okay, because I simply can't take everybody on. And I also
I've got to feel comfortable that they're going to represent the agency in the way
that I, you know, expect from the Code of Ethics, not not
that they've got to be seeing on hem street as me. I'm not saying
they got believe everything. I'm saying we've got to agree with it, because
if it's a case you've got a hypothesis to push out with, all got
to be on the same page for that. But that would have been hopefully
a group discussion to begin with. Sometimes I do go ahead on one,
just get it out there. But because at the moment, I'm doing all
the video editing myself, all the logo work. You see, I've done
myself for the T shirts and it's all done by myself. So I'm doing
quite a lot at the moment. But as the officers you know, come,
I can then start diving out that work that workloads of other people.
So yeah, you can come from any background, if you're video editors,
if you're in sound engineering, even if you're because all those have skill sets
we can bring to investigations too, because some might go to me, actually
that device you've got doesn't get all infra sound. You need this. I
don't know that. I'm not an expert. So this is why we need
a broad spectrum of officers and researchers to come. So, yeah, come
let us know, and we want to Yeah, we want to be pushing
it out there. So yeah. One of the other things we're going to
do we spoke about this day already, is that we're going to be looking
at running a convention maybe next year. Yes, exciting, I've got to
give it a work at a moment. I'm actually in my training mode at
the moment as a trainee officer, which I'm hoping you very shortly. Yes.
So we we have we have a like the like the police or in
militaries or I've got miniature backgrounds or I should have probably mentioned. We have
a ranking structure. We have a hierarchy. And people might say, oh,
is that for your ego benefit. It's not about the ego. It's
about knowing where what clearly what your role is and knowing that you've got the
support above you if you need it. Just that's why we have a rank
structure in the army. Is while you have in the police service and you
have it in the in in paramedics as well. They have a rank structure.
I think even I don't R S p C A. That's any company
whatever, the structure like that. So I'm not I'm not I'm I'm not
ashamed of having a rank structure. We need it. We'll have that in
place because ultimately, as I as the founder, I sit at the top
and I have to at least and then they make a decision about yeah that
police is right, it is not right, and I won't do that siloed.
I always kind of ask the officers too, as you will know,
Dave, what the opinions are. If I don't get the opinions back,
then you can't moan it. It wasn't hurt. That's my attitude. So
yeah, So when you join and you get accepted as a se office,
you start as what's known as a potential officer a p s O, which
is what I am. What you like knowing Dave, yet and then you
become an s SO which is a SEPI officer. Once you've got the training
done and you get your ID badge, you get your T shirt with PARDO
shirt like this one I'm sponting here with the SEPI shield on it. The
shield is only which comes out well on the radio, but it's shine it
looks on the radio. If you go to the Paranormal Dimensions Sir page some
point. If you on Facebook, you'll see pictures of it all anyway,
Yeah, you see pictures of it. So we have a main logo which
is a circular logo out of naming it, and we have a we have
the officer's shield as well, which is a you know, you've got to
earn your shield basically, and it's got lots of meaning it which I'll go
into maybe another day, but there's lots of meanings in the shield that are
designed for this, a lot of protection and all sorts of things inside it.
So you then get to where the shield as it were, and you
get the ID your ID card properly, and your lanyard and work good stuff.
You get DBS checks well, so you can't become a SEPI office too.
D ye done. So yours just done and you've had the training.
So and then we have another rank above THATACK called a Senior SEPI Officer.
Soo's an Sso we don't have any of those yet because I don't have enough
of you guys to warrant it, but I will do because an SSO we'll
probably look after about ten different SEPI officers under there sort of care. So
they've got that guidance. And I've seen it too much in the army and
in the police that without it, you just you know, it just goes
waywards. Just you need that structure. Yeah, and then above that is
in his senior executive officer, which is really what I am, just the
founder, and I may change that structure later on. I may feel there
needs to be another level between an SSO and me, or we might need
some lother ones. I don't know, but I don't want to overcomplicate it
at this point. So we have got SEPI researchers, potential step officers,
SEPI officers, senior SIPI officers, and obviously myself. So that's the rank
structure at the moment, and I think they will help on clarifying roles responsibilities
properly and help for when you're starting off on your own investigation, you know,
when you want that additional support that you know, you know who to
ask, you know where to go. So when when there's many of us,
it would be really important that we have the senior SIP the officers in
place, because they need to make sure they're looking after their fold, as
it were, that the group in a proper manner. And if they if
they don't know what the answer is, and they come to me and we
will discuss it all. You know, it's an open forum still at the
end of the day, especially in this early stages. But it may seem
quite anal to some people. But I think now it's time that we all
start working properly together. This is what really we're trying to achieve. I'm
trying to say to all you guys out there in your paranormal groups around the
world to stop working alone. Start sharing your data, start sharing your information,
start showing your practices the best practices. Start sharing about the silly boxes
that you find are rubbish. Tell us about them so we can start looking
into them before discounting them. We don't want to destroy anybody's business that may
may make some of these boxes. But in seagency, you've got to be
a serious investigator. Then we've got we've got to know what a good tool
set looks like, and that's still in conception now, so we need that
we need the experience of those groups that have been gained for many years,
far longer than us obviously, to come together and say, you know,
yeah we can we can add some value to that, and we want to
share with you. We want to be part of SEPI, so they can
I have become a SEPIE branch completely, so there'll be known SEPY Agency Massachusetts
or whatever, or they can carry on with their own identity and but just
be affiliated to the SEPY Agency. ALLWARD ask is that you guys follow pretty
much the you know, the concepts that we're following. That's all we ask,
and that you're sharing that information with us, and you know why.
That is why we need this web application that's got to be up and live
before really I can stop gathering that data. Yeah, but I can still
on board people now. There's no nothing's stopping me doing that right now.
So anybody out there was interested in you in becoming a researcher or officer you
know inju course, then get in touch with Dave. I'll put links on
the perm of the ANSWER's page as well for it. And also I guess
also if you've got any interesting cases you might want looking into, you think
you'd like seppy to look into. Absolutely, yeah, we could do.
Were bombarded with loads of stuff, but it felt free, you know,
just bring it our way. I mean, it's I'm going to be quite
honest with people that just bring me a photograph that, at the end of
the day is just antidote to evidence. That's scientific community would categorize that,
and we're no different. It's going to be very difficult to prove something in
a photograph and that's all you've got, especially it was about twenty years ago
that something happens. You know, we're quite happy to analyze that. We
have to software to analyze, and also have a guy that you know,
Dave, that does analyze video footage really well. He's a bit of an
expert in the field. He's helped us out a couple of times. He
hasn't committed himself to be a research quite yet, Dave, but I'm working
on him as well. Yeah, if you weren't mind, but he's been
already like helpful the thing he is with him. We will mention these names
because it's not fair, but you as usually if you do ask him a
question, he will come back with an answer. So yeah, he does
and what for me, that's you know, I'm very good at with photoshop
as well, and likes the image in software. So it's good for me
to go do my analysis and then give it to somebody else about telling what
I found and say can you have a look at this? And then it's
really good when the same he finds the same things and even back with him
because he's more he's better than me. He finds extra stuff that I never
But it's really good for me because it proves I'm on the right track and
how I'm analyzing things. Okay, good thing. You actually learn from each
other as well, don't yeah, like you say, yeah yeah, So
I use the you know, the industry tools to try and analyze what I
can. But Alien David just handing us a photographs especial. If it's not
the original, there's not a lot we can do with it. So if
you do have photographic evidence or video evidence, let us know. But it's
got to be the original. It can't be embedded in an email, it
can't be a screenshot, it can't be like you know, copyed from something
else. We need the original because that would give us a whole bunch of
information as well. Because in every video that's original and photograph that's original,
there is a lot of metadata hidden within that that I can extract and read,
which gives us loads of information about the ISO settings and all all sorts
of good stuff. They can give us an idea about what's going on.
And a good example that that we've had one recently in which I call ghost
shoes. The guy sent this a a picture which is quite odd of a
path of some green behind it at a park and you just saw a pair
of trainers pretty much walking along this. It's still in me just not a
video, but just a pair of trainers and no body attached to it.
So I analyzed it for a number of weeks and also gave it to the
other guy that we mentioned to analyze, and we both felt that the image
was manipulated. However, we're not actually saying or accusing the person the subject
of the manipulation which I started to see and a trained lately of weird odd
of things appearing in pictures on people that have got iPhones, and I've done
a bit of looking into this, and there are some defects it appears,
and the iPhone twelve and up in the camera I've don't know, it's a
software thing. I'm not sure what it is, but there are defects and
we've closed the case now, but I've told the subject that we do believe
it's manipulated, but not saying it's necessarily you. Yeah, we feel that
something's happened with the camera itself that's made it look like it's been sort of
smudged out. And I said a few smudging images recently. Yes, you
know, it doesn't always mean we don't believe you. We think you faked
it. There are other explanations, you know, and we don't upset everybody
that comes to us saying you faked it, and there are going to be
fakes, And to those people, I say, just don't bother wasting our
time, please, because as you know, you've already taken that well on
board, the Israeli one. So yeah, they've also proven. I mean
a lot of people out there will think, like I did, that was
genuine and you did as well. We're trying, we're on your side.
We're trying to present real evidence. That's what we're trying to do. We
don't want to be bombarded with a load of stupid pictures or videos of people
just done TikTok or they've done it themselves or ghostack or something like that.
Just you know, let's stop wasting each other's time. Just give us stuff
that you feel is genuine. If you wholeheartedly think it's genuine and you want
an answer, or if you're getting played by problems to this day, like
a haunting poultic geist activity, come tell us, come let us know,
and we will help you because we've got a different view on poltic geists,
totally different view which we feel will help you. And I think it will
sort of surprise some people when they hear our take on it, because I'm
going to be very bold here Dave and say I don't believe in ghosts.
All right, Okay, I believe in supernatural things, but I don't believe
the term ghost is a number at a term, much like schizophrenia would be
for many types of mental health issues, not multiple personality disorder and stuff like
that. Ghost is just one of those terms. So the reason I say
that is that I've come up with one of our new hypotheses in this ap
agency is something called a traumatic time impression. Now that is, if you
could try to envision it a hologram of a past event playing out front of
your very eyes. Again, that's the easiest way of saying it. How
do you know it's a hologram because that apparition doesn't acknowledge you, doesn't know
you're there. You might think it does because you're maybe looking at the things
a recording basically within the Yeah, absolutely, it won't know you're there,
and it probably won't change what it does. It probably does the same thing
over and over and over again. That is a traumatic time impression. And
it's been given that TTI label because I firmly believe that trauma can imprint on
the fabric of time space its very self, very much like trying putty against
the window. It splat against it. Leave that impression and it will just
slowly drip away or drip in a pond. The ripples are be there to
be seen, but they eventually will fade away. And I believe that traumatic
timepressions are quite common, very common. They can be happening from individuals,
maybe murder victims, people put that in you know RTCs, sorry, road
traffic collisions. There are suddenly sudden deaths and also big battles, big famous
battles, which takes it back to why I mentioned edge Hill earlier on the
Battle of Edgefield sixteen forty two, because in is it Warwickshire? Well,
yeah, what I think is this, I might have that wrong to look
that up. Uh my book, I've got my notes here. I hate
being wrong on the facts. So back in sixteen forty two it was probably
pretty much the first civil the English Civil War. A big battle occurred there.
Really where is it whereas Warwick? Yeah? Is Warwickshire? Got it
right? Fantastic, that's right. I was about to say that, but
they came together out there was a big battle there and obviously you can imagine
there's cannon fire, muskets and swords and horses and drums. It must have
been a horrific experience cous soldiering back then, it's very different to it is
now. It was close combat. It was looking you an him in the
eye and literally chopping bits off of them. I mean that is traumatic in
itself to nobody. It was indecisive. Yeah, was well to male wars
away time, but anyway, another subject. But so it was it must
have been a traumatic thing. So that occurred on twenty third of October sixteen
forty two, although the dates there's a different calid system back then, but
we won't go into that. Twenty Roll forward now to the twenty four to
for December of the same year. Three shepherds attending their flock out in the
fields. It's cold, it's December and the UK, and they hear drums
banging, they hear bangs, they hear cries, men screaming and shouting,
and then they see a whole battle of edgewat Edge Hill happen again right in
front of the very eyes. They see them, physically see them. They're
so terrified, these guys. They stayed put for three hours and apparition that
last three hours can you imagine. So yeah, they were so convinced that
if they got up moved they would being killed. It must have been that
lifelike. They finally got back to their the town, the village that they
lived in, Kindton, I think it's pronounced. They woke up the Just
of the Peace, mister Woods and mister Marshall, the minister. They took
them there but they saw nothing but what they said, well, we'll come
back the next day then and have a look. So now it's Christmas Christmas
Day, twenty fifth, but it's one in the morning, by the way,
so really it's a twenty sixth, really December in the morning. But
the townfolk are come out now, and the Justice of the Peace, and
the minister and the shepherd, so there's a big audience. Now the same
thing happens again. They see it with their own eyes, the whole battle
again in front of the very eyes. People run back to the houses,
locked the doors and pray to God for help. They are scaled out their
minds. You can imagine it, though. It must be scary. They
then send word to King Charles the First about this horrific event, you know
it's and it gets to hear about it. It must have been that bad
that he actually sent six officers down there to go and investigate it in his
military. Six officers. The following weekend again, and the same morning,
one o'clock in the morning, it happens again, and for a third time.
So these officers not only did they write a document that apparently was stored
in the British National Records at the time which is now called National Archives,
they wrote this full report to King Charles the First saying that they did see
it. It wasn't imagined. They couldn't steal the town. I settle their
minds. And not only did they see it and witness it, they recognize
some of the people in it because some of those six officers served in that
very battle. Now here's the clincher for me. This is why I know
these are not ghosts. They didn't just see the dead there Daves, they
saw the living. So to me, other people call that residue energy.
People call them ghosts apparitions. No, you're seeing a traumatic time impression.
Is literally like a hologram replaying to you again. And I think, and
I don't. This is a bit I don't know yet. It's still it's
an open investigation, so there's still things to be to be found out.
I think the ttis fade after a time, so I think they come strong
at a certain time. I don't know what the trigger is quite yet,
but I do think they fade. But obviously the verbal story goes on forever.
I mean, that story obviously is now here in twenty twenty four.
We still know about those those apparitions, so that goes on. So I've
done some digging in the National Archives Parliamentary National Archives, Oxford Ones as well.
I've done lots of digging and I found a lovely guy there that's come
back with loads of helpful information for us, and he says, although the
original report is not found, there is a guy that wrote a book in
sixteen forty three about the actual report who's pretty much word for worded it,
and that exists. I've got it on PDF right now. That does exist.
It does clearly state that the sixth officers sworn oath to the King Charles
Times of First that they saw they saw. It's funny because the guy gave
me that document was still very skeptical himself. He said, oh, if
you read it, he says, they talk about an oath, but not
that it happens. But I've read it and he actually says they gave an
oath, that it was a true It was a true account, as I
gave an oath when I joined the police and in the army. So that's
to me, that's strong. You don't make an oath and make a story
like that if it's not true. I think he mostly stronger the fact there
were six of them as well, not just one person, and that they
recognize a living So ttis can be showing the people that are still alive.
They could have been within that bubble of that trauma at the time, and
I and I really would love to know how they got triggered. Can we
can we trigger them at will? Could we go back there to this day
except whatever the trigger points are and recreate it and make it play again.
Because if we can do that, you're now tripping on the on the world
of time travel. Imagine that you could go anywhere and go, let's see
that for real. Can you imagine the implications on history? And you know
what it means to us as a SPECIs to know that we had that power
to do that. So a pushing TTI forward as an open investigation as well
as the etious domentory entities I'd like to come to. If we've got the
time, that's another one we're pushing forward because I think that explains the actual
spirits that people do get played by, such as Poltergei's activity and physical thing
like the thing that attacked me last apful for example. You know, I
don't know, I'm not going to say that's a ghost, that's an EDE,
that's an extra dimensional entity. That was playing City Buggers with me.
Quite frankly, I do believe in the in the dimensional stuff goes on as
well. I actually do believe in ghosts as well, but I can't Obviously,
nobody can prove anything either way, so at the moment, but I
don't want to take away the romance of the world ghosts at all. You
know, it's a romantic concept. I mean, you're never going to get
a film called Edo called I think the thing is. I mean, if
you believe in like life after death, if you it kind of goes along
with the ghost concept because you know, you think about the seven planes of
existence and all sorts of stuff like that. I can hear people screaming now,
you can hear screming. Well, I know you're part of came back.
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not just counting spirits and this at all.
I do believe in spirit. I do believe in that. You know
your I do believe in your soul. I believe it can be two parts.
It can one can linger, one can move on. You know.
I do believe in that stuff. So it's not even taking that away from
anybody. What I'm trying to explain to people is if you see a repetitive
ghost, then not to be afraid. It's not a ghost. It's never
going to harm you. And in fact, you should be really revalleased that
you're seeing a supernatural event because it's natural. That the emphasis on the word
natural from supernatural. It is natural, but to you and to us,
it's super because it's a it's a new thing. We don't we've never understood
it, but now, so pushing it forward, we are going to understand
it. And the academic world can jump on board or not. I really
don't care either way because they can't prove it as much as I can't.
But right now, I think this makes more sense. While people go but
the Gettysburg Fields example, always goes signs going on there. They say,
no, they're not they're not going, they're just seeing the TTI is reoccurring.
But they still feel as privileged, you know. But just what they
don't need now is the fear. That's what I'm trying to do is say
remove the fear, you know, and you may may even see more of
them. I don't know. But my only dealt with that is that I
feel that it is a ripple, and I think it does fade over time.
That's the only issue. So I'd love to be proven otherwise of that,
because we can find some good, strong evidence that there are still these
battles been replayed to this very day, and maybe that that ripples more of
a bounces back again. So say like the drop, the drop is in
a cup, So the ripples hit the edge of the walls of the cup
and then come back in again, don't they they retract? Maybe maybe that's
the model. I don't know yet. I can't actually put a defensive answer
on it. But we're going to push this forward as an open investigation,
as a new hypothesis. So traumatic time impression. You heard it here,
You're going to hear a lot more. Yeah, I mean to be honest
when you when you say it that it does actually make sense that you're watching
are recorded. I mean, Richard Phoenix has written written about it in the
past about like the manget like stone effects, like the stone tape theory,
which is the same type of thing. Really, well, this is why
I use audio tapes worth than the investigations, because the tape in your cassette
and your VHS records back in the day is silicon. Yeah, it's stone,
and there's there was a case where I heard about and I need to
find the facts on this one because I can't. I don't know the name
of the pub, but there was a public house in the UK which is
being haunted quite a lot, lots of noises in a function room. There's
an old pub and I think it's colling like the court room or something like
that, because guess what, it used to be a cult room back in
the day, in sixteenth century or something century, and they kept and some
investigation team went to look at it. I think there were a scientific theme,
not a paranormal team as it were, and they've done some measurements in
there and they did hear they heard noises, men's shouting, noise sort of
thing, and then someone had a gable, you know, been hit like
a judge banging the table. What they come to realize was that these stone
work and the actual building and the function room, because it's still part of
the original building, had a high silicon content. That's what tape's made of.
Therefore, it makes absolute sense that that's what I term is supernatural because
the impressions from the trauma going on in the courtroom, the arguments. These
are people getting sentenced to either death or imprisonment. That's got to be traumatic.
That it's literally been left in the fabric of the silicon, in the
actual brickwork. So that that made me go, yes, that that's what
it is. That's that's what I get. And maybe these t t EI
that play out in h Hill or Gettysburg, maybe we need to do some
soul samples. What's what's the silicon content? Like there? Do they happen
on on on the sands and Normandy more? You know, Sandy's silicon and
sands in pretty much everything and building materials, isn't it. It's it's very
common. Sand is in your computer chips. Micro chips also be something in
the in the air that we don't even recognize yet that it's causing somebody's recordings
as well. It might not just be it could be something else as well.
Yeah, And that's why I say, like the T T I is
like hitting the frabic of time space itself, So can leave that impression in
the in the maybe not any physical realm, but on something else on the
different dimension. There's something something that struck me when you were talking about the
time factor with that battle that there was one o'clock in the morning. I
mean, there's no such thing as time really as such as there, so
it could happen at any time, not at one o'clock in the morning.
Part of the investigation for this particular one will be why was it that many
minutes later? If you break it down to minutes, Why was it like
a week Why did it take almost two months for the first one got played
out? Maybe it didn't, maybe it did play it before, but no
one saw it. But then why did it have a three times in a
row three weekends in a row? Was significant about the timing of that?
And then why did it stop that? The only especially I got for why
that particular thing may have stopped is that the king ordered that all the bodies
that were still on the field. By the way, they weren't all buried
or burnt, but he said he ordered that they ought to have a Christian
burial. Now, I don't want to go into like, well, how
we just things could make that better, But I think the very act of
burying and disturbing the grounds, you see what I'm going with it, it's
I think invertally it kind of works. Something works and it stopped happening.
Now has it been seen since sixteen forty two, I don't know, sixteen
forty three, I don't know. So, like I said, that's an
open investigation and we'll we'll dig more into that. So if anyone's got any
more stories of these tti's events going on from big battles or even just like
you know, the ghostly woman walks through the park, you know that's that's
a TTI. You know it's often seen. It never interacts with anybody,
then that's it. If it's like a spirit like you see in Ghostbusters are
the librarian scene, Yeah, it turns around and screams at you, there's
probably not a TTI. We've got a lot of listeners are listening in America
and the Civil War bat fields over there. If you've got any experiences that
you might like to relate to separate, be interested. Yeah, I mean
I've seen some good ones on Gettysburg already. But yeah, absolutely. If
you've got something, and if it's original footage, please bring it to us,
okay, and we will make a case out of it, and we
will probably make we put We do ask every subject's permission and consent to put
it onto our website, make it public and to make YouTube video out of
it as well, because we like to do that too. And if you
don't give consent, you know what's fine. We're still looking to it for
you. We just won't publicize it. We fully, you know, respect
everybody's privacy and privacy. Would never break that trust ever, And it could
even say yeah, put it on your website by just to nominize my name,
and we do that too well. Able to point out that there's a
lot a charge involved in this is a free service, I think in case
people start thinking, oh, we're going to charge me to look into this
particular case. Yeah, the absolute spotted. I should have mentioned that maybe
a lot sooner, but yes, for now, it's free of charge.
And I say for now, because you know, I want to have with
me. I want to get to a business model eventually. Llseppe does have
a passive income m and that we do make money. I'm not shy in
saying that. I'm not ashamed of that. I want it to make a
lot of money because at the end of the day, I want to aboule
to pay the officers. You know, I want to be paid too.
I want about to travel and I want to be able to say to a
bunch of officers, what we need you guys and check republic for the you
know, in two weeks time, and knowing that it's getting paid for.
They don't, you know, or at least expenses are getting paid for that
we're not. We can't be ashamed of making money. I mean, it's
a multi million pound industry. This this what we all pro fascinate by,
from books and films and conventions, franchises, merchandise, all sorts of things.
So I'm not saying to say we need to make money, but we're
not going to make money from right now from cases, but that's not our
intention. We're probably making money out of YouTube videos and it eventually when the
you know, one day hopefully go get to get monetized and maybe books or
whatever else. But you know, merchandise as well, because a Seppi store
is where if you go to our website it's Sepi Hyphenagency dot com, there's
a Sepi store. There's merchandise on there of our T shirts and fun ones
as well, so you can come by those who wants. So it's it
links you through to Etsy so you can Payment's all done for exs, so
feel free go buy a T shirt or mug. I've got mudgs and mouse
mats as well. Actually all the sales of me so far. I've got
to say that this sounds like the sort of thing we could do a show
on this, maybe a couple of times a year. So maybe maybe later
in the year we'll do catch up on this, you know, we'll see
how Seppi's getting on. And it sounds like we could do this, you
know, catch up on what's been going on for the last six months or
so. This one was mainly about what SEPI is and to talk about a
couple of the obviously hypothesis, but yeah, absolutely forward we could talk about
specific cases, yeah, and the evidence and equality by them, and it
might be able to talk about a twenty twenty five convention that maybe on the
colds if we could coax well, we've already got a name. It's called
Unconventional Yeah, yeah, Conventional Convention, right, Okay, Yeah, I'm
already working on sort of a logo for that already. And yeah, we
want to we want to do a convention because I think it's just a good
way of getting SEPPI officers together and to the public and let people come and
sell their stuff there as well, and as some great speakers. Yeah,
I think good. You're trying to get some well known names as well.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And the people we want to get on there
is people that are passionate about bringing truth to the to the to the subject
now because there's too much misinformation and puppetry out there for my liking. But
I don't want to dismiss it all. But the tic Tac video is that
you're well aware of. There's been various views on that. That one it's
genuine moum, it's not it was this. It was that. You know,
it's just muddy in the waters. It's not helpful. And the recent
one, the jellyfish video, which I've analyzed already in d vincually resolve and
I'm not even convinced it's even real. The jellyfish doesn't move a muscle.
It's the same image passing through but no one seems to see it. And
you can go, oh, well, it's ince dimensional. You know no
one saw it because of that. Yeah, great, but the camera caught
it at the end of the day quite well with facts, and this thing
doesn't move It's almost like someone took the footage of it, moved of this,
or just footage of moving, and then added this on, which is
easy to do, by the way, in the video editing software, very
easy to do, and then went, look, this is just captured.
And I'm not convinced, you know it's There are entities that had been caught
in infrared. I give you that. There's a great one I saw in
Australia who has hit the mainstream media out there. A woman had a grand
should in the cot. She had a baby monitor downstairs. I think she
heard something something bought estentially looked at the screen and she's got this horrendous image
of this demon like figure looking over the poor baby. The baby's totally on
where it's there, by the way, but this thing has even got small
holes on its head. It's that clear for me that's not a demon.
It's an ED. So we've got to take away the word demon because it's
just given power to these things. But that was an EDE. But what
fascinates me in the most about that is that it was a normal infrared camera,
a baby monitor and it caught it. That intrigues me to my core
because that means then somehow something exposed it into infrared spectrum. So we need
to find out how to do that. And I was on another interview earlier
in the week. He mentioned that the original infrared goggles that the military used
to use weren't green. They were red, so you used to see red.
There's a different spectrum. And in Vietnam, the soldiers kept opening fire
on things in bushes that kept seeing things, and they the militaries realized that
they were seeing things that weren't actually there, humanoid figures. They pulled those
goggles and they made the new ones, so the more familiar green ones that
you see now, and it filtered out whatever the red ones can see to
what the green can see. And I want to know where those goggles are.
Now. It's weird, yeah, because that caught something that those were
that technology back then caught somethink exposed something. So I want to know if
anyone knows any information on that, please bring please contact us. I want
to know where those goggles are. I want to know if someone's got an
old pair of back garage or knows what's done with them, because I can
guarantee you now if that was the sixties. Then they've developed those goggles and
that visual technology to be even better. I can guarantee the government have got
something now where they can see a whole lot of things that we can't see.
And that's scary, and that is scary. Yeah, yeah, and
that's been with hell. That's got to be with hell from us because you
don't you don't go as a manufacturer or all these military goggles. Oh yeah,
we'll take them all back. They all must be faulty, all of
them. No, you don't. You go, wow, what is that?
What we're what we've seen? And then once you start seeing him,
you start interacting with him, start communicating with him, and the world gets
worse. So so there must have been reports made out as well with people,
because normally if you're fire on them, so you might make reports out
at you. Yeah, but you know that that's not unusual. I mean,
I am shot a badger, a white badger. That's illegal, by
the way. Yeah, I know I didn't shoot it, but the bushes
are rustling a lot. I was on exercise, I must add, I
wasn't. It wasn't on a theater of war, so it would have only
been shocked by a blank round going over. Yeah, it wouldn't. I
wouldn't have harmed it, but it scared the crap out of me at the
time, and I almost shot on it because I thought I'd been ambushed.
So if that happens to me in exercise on exercise, that happened in fear,
yeah, you know you're mougitary will start because guess what, they're not
blank ammunition in your magazine. They're real and they hurt. It's not it's
not call of duty out there. They do buy it, so yeah,
so yeah, it'd be fascinating if anyone doesn't know about those red goggles and
let us know, be intrigued. Yeah, well, by the time we
do another show, maybe you'll get so into report. You never know,
absolutely, but it's been a great pleasure. Revenue on daugh been fascinating.
I shall continue my little bit of training obviously. Have you seeing you in
a few days to complete that, Yes, you will be. I'm off
to I'm off to America when your show goes out. Just after the show
goes out, so after I'll see you on Sunday where it is. We'll
see you again after that at some meeting or other. But yeah, we
will do it again. They'll set up on a date and we'll carry on
because I'm sure some more stuff. Yeah, and obviously they I could you
know, I'd like to discuss the EDS at another day, and yeah,
go go. There's articles on our website that explains about tcs N e d
s. Go ahead and give them a reads and give me feedback. I
don't mind any feedback, good or bad, because at the end of the
days there's going to be helpful stuff and all of it. Yeah, do
you want to read out those websites get anything that wants to the case you
missed it, yep. So the main website is SEPI hyphen Agency, so
s e p I hyphen Agency dot com. You can go to a YouTube
channel at SEPY Agency. We're on x as well Twitter the Sepy Agency and
on Instagram also known as Sepy Agency, so there's a theme there. It's
all sep Agency, so we're all on those platforms. And also we have
a channel on Rumble as well, right Rumble as well as I say,
I'll put the links as all the links are ken of Facebook on the apparelm
of the mentions page. And so if you want to go along and have
a look at that, but so we'll leave it there, Dave. It's
been great talking to you two hours. So it's gone. It's gone quick.
It's gone quick. To go on further more, but no, no,
no, I know we could, we could carry on, but we
will do that next time. But until then, I'll take I'll see you
a few days anyway, Dave. So take care of yourself and goody to
you, and thanks for coming on very much. Well, take care,
cheers boboy, Thank you Dave. And as you know, we've got a
lot more to talk about, so we will do it again in a few
months. Okay, Now, as I said, I'm shooting off to the
States for a couple of weeks. But next week I've got another show for
you, and that will be with Nancy Thames. So that's a regular scheduled
show. And as it happens, Nancy lives in two Below, Mississippi.
Now I'm hoping to be in too Below, Mississippi around about the same time
as that show goes out, so if all goes well, and may well
be meeting Nancy Thames while I'm over there. But as always, if you
like to get in touch with me, my email address is David Young too,
q in at your hoo dot co dot UK. That's David Young too,
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Monday, that's Nancy Thames. So apart from that next week's show,
the next time you'll hear from me is when I come back. So take
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