1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:13,320 in the UK and around the world. Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on 3 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:19,760 the Paranormal UK Radio Network. What was it? Iron didn't know? But 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:26,600 dedicated sepie investigators We're willing to risk their lives to find out. Here here 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:01:07,519 we have a clue to an answer. Good detail. This is Sir Patrick 6 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Moore and you're listening to the Paranormal the UK Radio Network, the UK's biggest 7 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,799 paranormal radio network, and this is Paranormal Dimensions with David jar best Man and 8 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:25,799 the Saucerer. Can you describe him well, sir? He was small and 9 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:32,040 skinny. He had his head was pointed, came to a very sharp point. 10 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:37,879 He had long green hair. His eyes were a sort of purplish red. 11 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,920 He had large ears which were formed like an antenna. His teeth were 12 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:51,040 perfect but spread far apart. And I noticed too a jacket of some sort 13 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:56,480 of spun glass and bright red calic shoes. You say this all took place 14 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,480 in a few seconds. Can you tell me what colored tie I'm wearing? 15 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:02,439 Sor Sarah? I didn't notice? You mean to say, you can remember 16 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:06,560 everything about this man from the spaceship, his hair, the color of his 17 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,840 eyes, the clothing he was wearing, and yet after all this time, 18 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,080 you can't tell me the color of my tie. But you didn't come out 19 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:28,319 of a flying saucer. Hello, and welcome to the show. This is 20 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,240 my last show before I shoot off the States for a couple of weeks, 21 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,159 but there still will be a show for next week. This particular show is 22 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:38,639 another extra and my guest is David John. Now, David has set up 23 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:45,120 a new paranormal and supernatural and UFO investigation unit called SEPPI, which we will 24 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:47,400 hear all about. So hope you'll sit back and enjoy this show as I 25 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:53,120 introduce David John. Hello, Dave, welcome to the show. We're welcome. 26 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:57,400 How are you? I'm fine? Thank you, Dave. Yeah, 27 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:00,520 I think thanks for inviting me onto the show. It's a great or to 28 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:06,599 be on panel dimensions it is. It is a great enough for you. 29 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:08,919 It is a good show. No, it goes out. It gets quite 30 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,879 a good lot of listenership, so it must be good. Anyway, we're 31 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:21,439 going to be talking about SEPPI, which means Supernatural Extra Trescial paranormal investigations, 32 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:27,919 which is you've set up yeah, and so what what kind of made you 33 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,879 get into that? What? What? What? What? What made you 34 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:35,680 decide to set that up? I think, like most people that get into 35 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,800 this subject, you're all cold, aren't, aren't you. Everyone has a 36 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,879 calling at some point, they have an experience. Maybe you start off life 37 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,879 not really believing in anything, and then something happens to you you can't explain. 38 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:52,360 And my calling was at three months old, believe it or not, 39 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:59,240 and then well, I'd say quite significant experience I had at six years old. 40 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,719 So three years old, I remember being placed on top of a notttoman 41 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:08,840 piece of furniture, which which if you're not sure what that is, well 42 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:14,719 and on different countries it's a square piece of furniture. It doesn't have sides 43 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,560 on it. It's about a foot and high off the floor. And my 44 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,000 grandmother at the time, who wasn't very pleased about looking after a three month 45 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:26,240 child, placed me on this littlement and walked out the room. And my 46 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:31,160 mother is out of the house at the time, and I basically remember, 47 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:36,319 and I don't I don't recall when I remember this, but I remember seeing 48 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:41,800 myself above you know, I'm looking down on my three month old self from 49 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,079 above, almost like I'm floating in the air. You have had any idea 50 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:49,839 what that was, would you? No? But this is the weird thing. 51 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Well if that's not weird enough, But the weird thing is, I'm 52 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,480 talking to myself in an adult way. I'm saying to myself, just keep 53 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,399 still, be okay. I'm looking out for you. You know, you'd 54 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:08,680 be okay and I and I'm just watching my little self on the ottoman, 55 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:11,399 you know, just keeping quite still so I don't fall off the edge. 56 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,680 Because I've had fallen off the edge. It would have hurt three month old 57 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,639 baby, you know. So I don't know when I remembered it. Obviously 58 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:25,000 I didn't remember that at the time I was three months old, but then 59 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,800 roll on to about six years old. It was before my younger brother was 60 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,920 born. I'm seven years different, so I was definitely probably six. My 61 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,079 dad used to take me to bed if you night, you know, put 62 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:41,600 me in a bed and he shut the door, and like in the other 63 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,879 kid, I'd be scared of the dark, so they'd leave the hallway light 64 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,199 on for me, and I'd see the light beneath my door. And I 65 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:51,800 see two shadows of his feet, because he'd always wait a few minutes before 66 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:57,600 disappearing downstairs. You know, we lived in a very small masonare. It's 67 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,519 two rooms downstairs, since you're kitchen and living room in a two bedrooms in 68 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:04,879 his barroom upstairs. Very small, so this start was no different, and 69 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,399 he just put me to bed, shut the door. You know, I 70 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:13,680 saw his shadows of his feet, although on this occasion he didn't seem to 71 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,720 go, and it seemed to stay a long long time. Now, I 72 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,360 don't know, a fairly sleep and my cupman still saw him standing there, 73 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,600 but I don't think I did. I think I was quite anxious at the 74 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:28,480 fact he was still standing there. And I've got the you know, I've 75 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:30,079 got the bravery in the end to get out of bed and just go and 76 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:34,079 see what's going on, because I couldn't settle because the kids kids going to 77 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,439 routines, don't they You know, My routine was I got to bed away 78 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,000 from my dad to disappear, and I kind of settle. I couldn't do 79 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,040 it that night because he wasn't going anywhere. So I opened the door, 80 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:51,160 half expecting him to be looking down on me. And booming like what you're 81 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,560 doing out of bed sort of thing. But he wasn't there. Nobody was 82 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,800 there, and that wasn't what struck me as odds You know, I'm six 83 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,040 years old. So what struck me as odd is that I realized it was 84 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:08,279 really late because the telly wasn't on downstairs. I could hear no sounds. 85 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Mom and Dad's bedroom's door was shut. The light was on obviously in the 86 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,959 hallway. But there was a weird tingling sensation I had all around me, 87 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:23,720 which I now know to be static electricity because affected the hairs on my arms. 88 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:28,639 You know, all everything was just springling. And there was an odd 89 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,800 smell in the air as well, which I couldn't I've only recently placed what 90 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:34,759 that is, so I've come sert in a minute. So there's an odd 91 00:07:34,759 --> 00:07:40,040 smell, and then this looking down at the stairs which are dark downstairs, 92 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:45,199 and just a weird, eerie feeling. And then his voice gets saying, 93 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,680 just walk out above the stairs, just keep just walk out, which means 94 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:57,040 it's telling me to walk out a parallel line, which means I'd fallen down. 95 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,759 I would fall down the stairs. You've got to follow the stairs, 96 00:07:59,839 --> 00:08:03,680 right, was going to fall, but it was convincing me that I should 97 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 just take a step above, you know, into thin air. Really, 98 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:11,240 I probably struggle with that for I don't know how long a few minutes may 99 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:16,639 be. But then I did it. I just stepped out, and then 100 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,000 I thought. It always reminds me the scene in Indiana Jones and the Holy 101 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:26,480 Grail where he's looking at this big ravine, you know, his big canyon, 102 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:30,560 and then he says it's like take a leap of faith, and he 103 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,240 steps out and what seems to be nothing, but it's actually a whole illusion. 104 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,679 He's actually he's stepping onto solid grounds. When the camera changes angle, 105 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:45,039 you see it. But that's what that's what it felt like. I was 106 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,960 stepping out into taking a leap of faith, almost my steps again and again, 107 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,000 and now I'm looking down at the floor. I'm now probably a few 108 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:58,679 feet above the stairs because I've gone that bit further out. And now I 109 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:03,360 realized I'm moving to the wall. I'm not I'm no longer stepping, and 110 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:07,679 I'm going quite slow rate against the wall like that, moving, moving, 111 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,480 moving. I'm now starting to think I'm going to hit the wall in a 112 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:16,200 minute, and I'm not stopping. How's this going to stop? And then 113 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:20,039 I'm thinking, am I going to fall? What's going to happen? You 114 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,600 know, I have no clue what's going to happen. So I've actually got 115 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,080 nose to the wall and off the while going to stop now, And I 116 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:37,919 didn't stop. I went through the wall and I see wooden slats behind the 117 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,879 plaster, and I felt a different smell, of different smell. And then 118 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:48,840 that's it, absolutely nothing, blank, dark, nothing. I've got no 119 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,480 wonderful story or ending to that. It's that's it. I can't embellish it 120 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:00,559 because nothing else happened that I remember that you remember, I think that's the 121 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,480 important buzz that you remember. Yeah, but I didn't remember for a long 122 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:07,360 time. Can I interrupt that? Did you actually feel that there was your 123 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,039 physical self or your actual self? Do you think I can answer that one 124 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:18,039 now? I probably couldn't have done then. So it was years later and 125 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,799 I was working on the building side as a laborer. I was sledgehammering a 126 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:26,879 wall down from an old house and I broke. I broke through a wall, 127 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,720 and I this what triggered my memory. I saw those wooden slats behind 128 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:35,559 the plaster. So in the old days, I think, put all these 129 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:43,559 thin wooden slats and over the top of it. Yeah, And I saw 130 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:48,440 that, and then the smell hit me. I had this horrible, dusty, 131 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:54,440 grimy, dark smell hit my nostrils, which is just all the cobwebs 132 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,039 and the you know, it's just the horrible muck of an old building. 133 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,639 And then that siddenly transport me back to when I was six years old, 134 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:07,080 and I remember the whole thing instantly, and I was like, Oh my 135 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:13,639 god, that did actually happen. And so was I being spiritually abducted? 136 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:20,720 No, because I had physical sensations. I saw something beyond plaster, which 137 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:26,200 would not be possible, and I smelled the smell of an old, dirty 138 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,759 wall. So I had physical sensations. But I can't, also, though, 139 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:35,279 tell you what it was. I don't know if it was an alien 140 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,799 abduction or it was a dark government project. If it was, why me, 141 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,320 or if any scenario, why me? I think, Yeah, No, 142 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:50,200 I don't think it was a spiritual thing. It was whatever it was, 143 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,919 it happened. So the first smell I mentioned, I only realized a 144 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:01,399 few years ago that what that is. My wife asked me what I watched 145 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:03,519 my birthday a couple of years ago, and I just said, oh, 146 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,039 you know, I've got pretty much, you know stuff stuff. I needs 147 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:13,759 a lot of money, camera equipment, stuff about that. We're not going 148 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,399 a lot of money, so I thought, I can't ask you for anything 149 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,799 like that. So I just to give me one of those plasma balls. 150 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,320 You know, I love those things. I've never had one. Boys wanted 151 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,080 one just to play with, just like about with. So she got me 152 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,559 one of those. So I'm in my bedroom and I plugged it in and 153 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,240 I'm playing with it like a kid. Miismerizing myself. I put my fingers 154 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,200 all around. Yeah, they're wonderful. But if you play it for a 155 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,559 little while, you will notice an odd disaffectant type smell in the air. 156 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,240 And I realized then that the smell I smell in that hallway and I was 157 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:56,559 six years old, was ironized air. And that's what the smell of the 158 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,600 plasma ball will give out is it's iron eyes in the air around it, 159 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:05,320 and it's a weird smell. So if you've got one, go play with 160 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,480 you for about ten minutes and you'll get that smell up in your nostrils. 161 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,000 And like I said, It's like a very faint disinfectant smell. I see, 162 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,840 only I can describe it, really, and that's what I smelled. 163 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:18,879 So that again made me go, oh god, you know, because you 164 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,759 think I was dreaming. I was asleep. It couldn't have happened. But 165 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:28,519 why would I remember such a profound event. Years later, and you know, 166 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:33,200 I'm fifty three years old, I still remember it with clarity. You 167 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,039 don't remember every well. I suppose it's possible to remember every single dream, 168 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,039 but I think the ones that have a profound effects on you, there's that's 169 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:48,039 something else. So that from that day on, I went and cut out 170 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,720 pictures of UFOs I put in my scrap book. I got into science fiction. 171 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,360 I watched rfur C Clerks of Sterious World of My Dad, which I 172 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,320 loved. That really did open my mind up. That program. Really, 173 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,080 it's a to the wonders of the world. Really, it probably stopped short 174 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,159 of a few things that could have gone into but it's still, you know, 175 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:13,320 as a small child, it's still really opened my mind. And then 176 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,039 I was that geeky kid gun down the library and getting all the books and 177 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:22,440 aliens and monsters and spaceships and planets, learning about the solar system and just 178 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,600 yeah, it's just lifelong from there on really, And there's been other things 179 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,000 that have happened, but not that significant. I mean, have you seen 180 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:39,240 any UFOs in your later years that you know, well you actually think the 181 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,039 UFOs are not some aircraft of some sort. Yeah, yes, I have. 182 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,240 So before moving Towey, I'm now, I used to live in Suburnes 183 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,720 and I lived in the flat that overlooked the Estuary's quite a nice few of 184 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,720 the of the sea there and the Thames Estuary. I was in my daughter's 185 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,840 bedroom, just tied in up and it was it was a summer's day, 186 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,840 I believe it is. There's a bit cloud in the sky. Something something 187 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:09,399 caught my eye in the cloud, something shiny. And I've seen you know, 188 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,600 those party balloons and things like that before, you know, going past, 189 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,840 and obviously they also got along. The estuary is you know, an 190 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:22,120 air traffic lane as well, so I'm used to seeing aeroplanes. So but 191 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,240 this thing sort of just sparkled like not not seen before. So I went 192 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:31,840 into the front room, which has got which is basically floor to ceiling windows 193 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,559 the whole thing the window, just to get a better look at it really 194 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:39,879 and I observed a small white dot in the cloud, just sitting in the 195 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:45,840 cloud. Clouds are moving, but this wasn't moving, and I just thought, 196 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,519 well, you know, it could be I don't know, maybe Jupiter, 197 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:54,480 I don't know. But then it moved down very slowly out of the 198 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:00,799 clouds. Then it moved back up again. That's like what I saw years 199 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,960 ago, back in the fifties. So I start moving downwards and go, 200 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:10,840 yeah, it's that very thing, yeah and very tiny. But moved back 201 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:14,919 into the cloud and then it decided to go to the left, and then 202 00:16:14,919 --> 00:16:17,759 it moved very slow to the right, and then carried on going to the 203 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,960 right before picking up a bit of speed and then going off. And I 204 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,519 was frantically trying to get my phone to work, trying to I did take 205 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:29,120 some pictures, so I have got a couple of pictures I've managed to zoom 206 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,960 up on. I took video as well, but the video could not pick 207 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,360 this object. It's too tiny. I've tried everything to enhance it in the 208 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,279 video, editing sweet, but it cannot find it. It's a shame. 209 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,360 I have got a couple of close ups of the UFO. I call it 210 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,320 uFocus. Obviously, I don't know what it is, but nothing moves in 211 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:56,559 that manner, and that was odds And it was only a short time before 212 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,399 that happens again. I was in the front at night when I I saw 213 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:03,759 an orange light come up to my window, which is odd because I was 214 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:07,720 on the first floor. I was on the ground floor. And I thought 215 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:11,640 it was a drone because it was that odd and that close to my window. 216 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,079 I thought, what cheek his SuDS plot got and thrown outside my window. 217 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:22,240 And it wasn't very big. So my windows don't open to the front. 218 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,960 They open to the side. So I opened the window to have a 219 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,640 look at it, and it moved off, and then that's when I realized 220 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:36,960 that, oh there's no sound. That was odd too. I still don't 221 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,960 know what that was. I mean, you never know. It could be 222 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:42,240 sort of keeping an eye an eye on you if you from a lot of 223 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,119 your earlier years, because I do believe that, Yeah, if you do 224 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,440 have these experiences when you're younger, there's something going on and you're you're sort 225 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,640 of on a mission of some sort, do you do you feel that? 226 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,880 Well, Well, when I was in my trying to think where old my 227 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,960 daughter was my older daughter to nineteen ninety six, so I must have been 228 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,519 about twenty six twenty seven years old. I had like like a massive migraine 229 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:18,799 attack, like the worst one I think I've ever had. I've had it 230 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,119 twice again since then, but that's the first time. It was a huge. 231 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,519 You know, I couldn't look at the light or anything, and so 232 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:32,319 I took myself off up to beds, close the curtains, said to my 233 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,599 then partner, lot Or, you know, I don't feel very good. 234 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,359 I feel quite sick and nauseous. I've had those and it feels like you're 235 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,400 having a brain seizure or something, didn't it And yeah it is, and 236 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,680 your head's pulsated. You think it's just wrong, you know. I used 237 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:52,039 to get those panics, I really and then the pounding was just getting worse 238 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:55,880 and worse and worse. But then I felt that something was going on. 239 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,839 I felt like something was downloading to me and it's blowing my mind. The 240 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,240 pain was from my It seemed like my brain expanding, That's what it seemed 241 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:08,240 like. I mean, I think my aren't my grains from swelling off the 242 00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:11,640 brain? I don't know. I mean I used to get quite a lot. 243 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,400 Then all of a sudden, they just seem to stop. You know, 244 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,640 yeah, for years, and now I know how bad they can be. 245 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:22,880 You know, you're laying there with your head pulsating them and thumping. 246 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:30,440 Yeah, it's terrible. And I found myself shouting. Now. My partner 247 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:36,440 come upstairs really worried. I was screaming uncontrollably this. I was just saying, 248 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:38,079 stop, stop, stop, getting out of my head. And she 249 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:44,480 panicked and she called her friends who in the area, and they sped around 250 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:48,839 and try to hold me down. There I am laying in my pants, 251 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,920 Dave, I've got two women and a bloke in the bedroom trying to hold 252 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:59,680 me down. I was literally crawling up the wall. I couldn't control myself. 253 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,279 Did she not think of calling an ambulance? Maybe? Did she not 254 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,279 think it was she did? She did call an ambulance, So I'm not 255 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:11,680 sure when I can't down. I don't really remember much, to be honest, 256 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,319 from that, but it just seemed like the next day I just had 257 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:22,799 all this like an answer for everything I think would relate. I know what 258 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:29,519 you mean. I just felt like I could explain a lot of stuff with 259 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,640 no roof, no scientific backing, because I don't think science can, but 260 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,519 in its general state, I just thought, I seem to think I seem 261 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:42,559 to know a lot of stuff I don't think I knew before. That's weird. 262 00:20:42,839 --> 00:20:48,000 And you actually you'd actually noticed the changing yourself from I did. Yeah, 263 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:53,440 and it wasn't welcome either, because it changed. It made me quite 264 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,759 upset and depressed. Actually it wasn't a gift. I didn't ask for that. 265 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:03,960 I didn't ask for the feelings I had afterwards. So I felt quite 266 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,519 down about things because I just thought, I kept going, what's the point, 267 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:10,440 what's the point? You know, what's the point of all this? 268 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,480 But I had my daughter, my first daughter, and you know that was 269 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,640 a point. You know, she was my point and she was my life, 270 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:23,440 and I just focused on not going down a depressed state, just you 271 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:29,920 know, keeping sane really, And I had another download about seven years later, 272 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,920 very similar experience, but not as painful and not as long either. 273 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,480 And I can't of remember the stuff that. I don't know how it affected 274 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,359 me the second time, but the first time was was worse because it was 275 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:48,480 just intense, you know. So, yeah, it's some odd things. 276 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:53,400 And then so throughout my time and getting back to your original question, what 277 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,839 might have made me started. I did visit a few you know you have 278 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,200 and paranormal groups in the local area. Just you know, the internet was 279 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,880 only kind of just talk about nineteen ninety sixty, so the Internet was still 280 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,759 molding. Yeah, it was picking up, but it wasn't really where it 281 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:17,000 could have been. So, you know, I was still doing the legwork 282 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,759 trying to find these groups locally. And there was one in leon Cea at 283 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:23,119 the time, and I lived in Sugar at the time, and I went 284 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:30,119 along and I was just totally discouraged by them. It was just one ego 285 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,640 battle after another. There I say it was, my story is better than 286 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:40,640 your story. It was. It's build of a few individuals that are fault 287 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:47,400 probably need help in a professional manner, not to be horrible, but judgmental 288 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,400 when I've been judgmental was quite one of my hobbies. But it just it 289 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,920 was it was just ludicrous. It just wasn't for me, and that's not 290 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,319 the company I wanted to keep. And I'm sure there's a couple of individuals 291 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,039 that are quite genuine, but I just did not want to know. And 292 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,279 when in my early twenties really rolling back a bit, I did a parapsychology 293 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:15,160 want of parapsychology. I've done psychology, curseure and adult education FeAsS and I 294 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:18,839 chose parapsychology. I was encourage of the child development, of course, because 295 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,759 that's the mainstream way. And apparently I've already got scored better and got high 296 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,960 grade had I gone down the normal route. But me being me, I 297 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,839 weren't having any of that. So I called mine the need to believe, 298 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,000 and I based it on why on earth, as human beings we have to 299 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,079 believe in something, be it a paranormal or religion, well, you know 300 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,920 anything. We just had this innate need to believe all the time, and 301 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,160 you know it got me. It's quite fascinating. So I've done a questionnaire, 302 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,440 and I've done this questionnaire quite cleverly to see what, you know, 303 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,920 if people had experiences, what they do they read the newspaper, do they 304 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,519 watch the news? You know? I just so it's general questions and every 305 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:06,119 now and then to be a little sprinkling of have you ever seen anything you 306 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:14,440 can't explain? So my subject group were doctors, police officers, religious people 307 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,759 at the local church. What is the other group and the UFO group, 308 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:23,200 so they all got the same questionnaires. I went on to the UFO group, 309 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:30,519 goum a questionnaire. I got met with quiet, you know, suspicion, 310 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,279 the treatment like I was there too, you know, I was a 311 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:37,000 spy, spye on them or something, when really I just wanted the viewpoint 312 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,000 on the questionnaire because then I was able. Then I devised a way of 313 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:47,640 marketing them to see where people were with things. The religious people, unfortunately, 314 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,839 did not want to engage with me at all. Thirty years ago. 315 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,559 I think attitudes were a lot different thirty years ago. Yeah it was years 316 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,759 ago. Yeah, thanks for reminding me of that old I'll get it all 317 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,400 right, But no, I think attitudes have changed a lot from back then 318 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,440 to what they are now. You know. So I didn't get anything from 319 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,559 religious people. I've got a couple of back from the UFO group, which 320 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:15,519 is disappointing, and I've got more back from the police officers. I got 321 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,480 all back from the doctors, and the surprise and result was it is actually 322 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:22,960 the doctors and the police officers were more open minded and had more experiences. 323 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,799 So I was quite encouraged by that. I didn't get a great grade from 324 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:34,319 my faces in the end, because it wasn't the mainstream way, and I 325 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,599 kind of thought, well, I'm not going into psychology because it's rubbish play 326 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:41,640 at the time, and I just weren't prepared to spend the next five or 327 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,799 six years to earn twenty eight pounds a year if I was lucky, you 328 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:49,599 know. So I just so I didn't. I didn't go ahead with it, 329 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,359 but it gave me a bit of a good grounding I think going forward. 330 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,319 So I've always wanted to start an agency, not a group, not 331 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,680 a meeting, but an agency that are serious investigators that you know, we 332 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,599 don't hold monthly meetings, we don't do weekly things, we don't do newsletters 333 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:15,799 and stuff can be a future yet we're there too, you know. I 334 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:22,039 wanted something to do investigations properly. And I had a friend of mine, 335 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,640 she's a sergeant the local police station where I work, and she goes, 336 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,119 oh, you should go see my friends. They're into all this stuff. 337 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,519 They do ghost hunts. And I thought, you know, I'll go and 338 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,599 check check this out. And we went to some castle I won't name, 339 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,119 so I don't want to sort of single them out in any way. And 340 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,279 I didn't realize it was actually recruitment evening. They were actually testing me to 341 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:48,839 see if I could be a personality enough to take groups around and the ghost 342 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,039 walks. When I realized that, I just thought, this is ridiculous. 343 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,480 This is not what I want to do. They're not investigating anything, They're 344 00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:03,240 just you know, telling engage. Had to telegost story. Yeah, you 345 00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:07,279 know when you take into this room sort of really get them quiet and then 346 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,519 do this and do that. And I thought, no, I wasn't there 347 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:15,119 for entertainment purposes. So that put me off and I thought, well, 348 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:22,039 you know, I'm not ready for this. And then last April I had 349 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,960 an odd experience. It's the first time I've seen a physical object move on 350 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:33,680 its own, and it's the first time I've been attacked by something I couldn't 351 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:42,880 see, So that woke me up. I try and cut stories short, 352 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,839 but my wife and I and my child went went away for you know, 353 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,279 to an air beating being suffolk for her birthday in April last year. So 354 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,160 lovely old cottage is it is a you know, it was in the middle, 355 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,279 It wasn't it wasn't detached or anything. It wasn't on its own it's 356 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,000 quite old, but you know, it seemed quite nice. So it's all 357 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,119 well and good. Saturday night, you know, I let myself have a 358 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:14,400 few drinks on a Saturday night take away. My my my brothers came around 359 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,119 because he lives in Suffolk, so they came around with his family. Quite 360 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,839 love a pleasant evening. They all went and I went to you know, 361 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,720 bofe and child go to bed and I'll go a little bit later. So 362 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,200 my bedroom is the main bedroom's got double bed in it. Door one door 363 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,240 into it, and the only other door in it goes into a second bedroom. 364 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,240 When you go into that second bedroom, there's no other doors. It's 365 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,119 just a window. It's it's a tiny room. And that's when my daughter 366 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,680 was sleeping. My wife is down in the cord on a different bedroom because 367 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:49,079 I snore, so she said, I'm not doing this tonight. You go 368 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,559 in there. We'll tell you you're not the only one. I'll do too. 369 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,359 So yeah, so I'm like, okay, fair enough. So I 370 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,240 go to bed and in my daughter's room, we took her took her red 371 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,759 light with us because she doesn't like the dark. Eve. So we've got 372 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:07,039 like this little ladybug or ladybird light that lights on read. So yeah, 373 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:11,920 she got night like and she has white noise planes, which is just a 374 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,720 digital white noise. It's not real white white noise. You know. It's 375 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:21,000 not a white noise machine. It's just an MP three basically playing. So 376 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,680 she's had that since she was a baby. So so all that's in her 377 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:27,599 room. The door shut, so I go to bed. It's quite dark. 378 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,599 I see the red rim around the door to her room. Of course 379 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,799 my doors shut, and I'm laying there and I'm thinking, you know, 380 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,240 to go to sleep. What I've missed from the story is it took me 381 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,079 two hours to get my daughter settled. She did not want to settle that 382 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,799 night, and I was a bit annoyed. I just wanted to go to 383 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,880 sleep. It was about a one in the morning until she actually fell asleep. 384 00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,359 I was a bit annoyed. I'm laying and going, oh god, 385 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,680 you know, I can't believe it's in two hours. So I'm just about 386 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,240 a nod off than I hear my wife walk in the room. I'm not 387 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:04,480 and I opened my eyes thinking what's she doing? And then I see my 388 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:11,200 daughter's door opening quite slowly, and so now the red light's pouring into my 389 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,440 room, but I still can't see very well. So I just hit my 390 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,359 smart watch, which lights up, you know, just a light. And 391 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,400 I was fully expecting to see my wife and go, what the hell are 392 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,880 you doing? We're going to two hours to get to sleep. And then 393 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,480 I realized she wasn't even there. And then I realized that my door wasn't 394 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,279 even open. And I realized when when I lit the room up with my 395 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:41,559 watch, that my daughter's door stopped opening at that very second, the moment 396 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:48,079 I lit up the room, the door stopped opening. Well that sense, 397 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,640 she was up my spine. I leapt out our beds, thinking, oh 398 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,599 my god, and all the hair stood up in my arms and the neck 399 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,359 all sign my head anymore, but it all stood up, and I was 400 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,759 like, and I was a fight mode. Now I've gone into instant adrenaline 401 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,440 fight mode because I'm now like, I've just seen a door open. There's 402 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,960 no windows open, it wasn't a windy evening. My door is still shut. 403 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,440 How on earth I have I've just seen a door open? And then 404 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,720 I'm now going, what on earth is is? And with that, here 405 00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:22,279 was screamed from my daughter. So I burst into her room, you know, 406 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:23,720 thinking, oh my god, what am I about to see? She 407 00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:30,359 was fast asleep place on the wall, not move muscle. So now I'm 408 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:37,200 really confuted, confused, so I say to whatever it is, I say, 409 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,599 look, I don't know who you are what you are, but go 410 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,200 away. I didn't ask you to come here. Just you know, do 411 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,440 not go near my daughter. Do not do You're not going near my wife. 412 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,160 You know, We're not here to harm you. Just go away. 413 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,440 And so I sat in bed and now we've got about three in the morning, 414 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:59,880 and I'm still not asleep because I'm now thinking, God, what you 415 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,119 know what it was that? What was that? I'm gonna have to pack 416 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400 up my bags and go. You know what's my wife going to say? 417 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,039 I don't really wake my daughter up? And then with that I got the 418 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:15,960 tingling again, the feeling that something's in the room again but really oppressive. 419 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,400 And I'm kind of half laying up in bed. You know, I've got 420 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,559 about of two pillows behind me, so I'm not laying flat. I'm kind 421 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,880 of at an angle. So I tried to I thought, no, I'm 422 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,680 not having this again. So I tried to sit up, and then something 423 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:34,000 was pushing me, and I struggled, really struggled to sit up in bed, 424 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,000 to get out of bed. And the only way I can explain it 425 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:42,880 is if you were laying down in a swimming pool underwater and you have to 426 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,359 try, and you try to sit up quickly. I think the force, 427 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,480 the resistance you would feel was very similar to what I felt. So no, 428 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:53,440 I didn't feel any hands on me. I didn't see anything on me, 429 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:58,440 but something was stopping me, preventing me from getting out of bed. 430 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,119 And I to really master every five in my body to get out of bed, 431 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,039 to really push through it. And that's when I really lost my brag 432 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:17,759 swear on here. And that's where my fight response kicked in. And I 433 00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:22,519 was like really angry now, and I was shouting at this thing, and 434 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,519 I was not challenging it. I was saying, God, show yourself, 435 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680 and I said you can't, can you because you're weak. You're weak, 436 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,160 you can't do anything. You're weak. So I was kind of mocking it 437 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,039 in a way. I said, go on, do you you know, 438 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,640 show yourself, show yourself. And when it didn't, I was like, 439 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,519 well, how ridiculous, how ridiculous. Just go away, don't come back, 440 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920 you know. So that's the only way I could feel. I couldn't 441 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,960 physically punch anything, nothing was there. So I probably got about two hours 442 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,160 sleep that night, Dave. So only nights were you're actually therefore was that 443 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,519 sort of just a just a couple of nights? Was it was there four 444 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,920 nights? It was that the only night that something actually happened. Yeah, 445 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,000 yeah, because we had another night to go. Yeah, and I was 446 00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:13,800 thinking, oh my god, if that's the first night, you wonder what's 447 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,000 throughout the next night, won't you? Yeah, that wasn't the first night 448 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:20,119 We've got there on a Thursday, So Thursday night, Friday nights, Saturday 449 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,559 night, and then Sunday night. We started to come back on the Monday. 450 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,000 This is the bank holiday. So yeah, we had one more night 451 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,280 to go after that, and I and I didn't tell my wife this until 452 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,920 about two o'clock in the afternoon the next day. Just what I was saying 453 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,599 is that some things may have happened that you didn't notice over the last over 454 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,440 the previous couple of days, if there was something there, well, one 455 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,840 thing I did find odds which kind of makes sense. After this happens that 456 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:50,639 me and my wife have both got lecture toothbrushes, and I fully charged them 457 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,960 before we left, and they normally last about a week easily a week, 458 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,320 so fully charged them, didn't bother taking the charger the very first night we 459 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,280 stayed there in the next moment to use them both trained. I did well, 460 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:10,239 completely drained, and then our mobile phones kept draining really quick. I 461 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,079 mean, it was normal, that's got normal for my wife's one because her 462 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,639 one's a lot older, but my one, I don't charge about two or 463 00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:22,960 three days at a time, but it kept going down really quick. And 464 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:29,400 that's before the experience. Yeah, so very odd. So that made me 465 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,760 go, you know, okay, I think now's the time, you know, 466 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,239 because I'm not I'm not having that, you know, I'm not accepting 467 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,079 that, and I wanted to find out what it was and look into things 468 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:46,119 what it could be. And I'm now fairly confident, you know what I 469 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:51,239 believe it could have been. And I don't fear it now because I know 470 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,840 what it is. But yeah, so they're they're they're the thing. I 471 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,960 mean, there's there's other stuff I'll be all night talking about, but they're 472 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,280 the most so I think things. So are you thinking it was a poblical 473 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:08,960 aster or something like that. No, So in the sepiagency, we're not 474 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:15,320 only here to investigate and carry out proper analysis of things and collect evidence properly. 475 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,480 We follow it the process I'm doing a following pretty much a project calls 476 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:27,559 at the police for following it in any investigation. So I'm doving a little 477 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,760 bit. But there's a point why I need to explain this really, and 478 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,239 the reason is to say that we've got we've got best evidence, We've documented 479 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,119 properly from the beginning. We when people report saying to us, if it's 480 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:44,920 an incident, we'll get a witness account from them, very similar to how 481 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,519 place to do a police statement for more witness I do that in the same 482 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,519 way that the police do it, because obviously I'm trained and writing statements. 483 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:57,400 So I've cookie cut this really to the Sairpur Agency and now I provide training 484 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,360 to my officers and how to do. What's stone is a five part witness 485 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:08,159 account, so it's structured exactly the same way as an MG eleven police statement. 486 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:13,719 So why would I do that? Yes, I'm being pedantic, but 487 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,079 I'm also making sure that the evidence is you know, would stand up in 488 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:21,559 the court of law should it ever need to be that, they're familiar with 489 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,039 the format. They know what the MG eleven form is. I will literally 490 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,920 say to them all these are done in the same way as an MG eleven 491 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,920 police statement, and they go, Okay, We're familiar with that. That's 492 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,880 why I'm doing it. I'm also training my officer and how to do pick 493 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,000 one level training and interviews, so we know how to interview people properly. 494 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,880 And I don't mean an interview such as this, I mean as in a 495 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,360 actual you know, tell me about it, you know, how to make 496 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,119 you feel or what was happening. So we we prepare an interview properly. 497 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,320 So we do assessments as well. So do we need to do an interview 498 00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:59,800 or not? Do we need to do a field investigation? Do we need 499 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,519 somebody else with different skill sets such as a psychic medium or a healer or 500 00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:09,079 shamanic presence or you know. So we're not closed, but you can't go 501 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,280 to the police and say I've got a ghost of my house, come and 502 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,559 get it out. Yeah, we are to serve this point. You are 503 00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:21,679 actually a serving police officer. Well, I know it hasn't sort of been 504 00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:23,960 made opposite at the moment. But because you're talking about the police and there 505 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,519 the investigate, we also point out you are a serving police officer. Yes, 506 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:34,440 I've been. Yeah, so really so, I've served the National Crime 507 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000 Agency for four and a half years. Previously twenty sixteen, I did that. 508 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,400 And if you're not familiar with the NCAA, they're very much akin to 509 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,519 the FBI in the States. So the NCAA deal with serious and organized crime 510 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:53,239 globally and domestically. They follow up the real hardcore criminals, so it can 511 00:38:53,280 --> 00:39:01,440 go from a pedophilia to arms dealing, drug dealing, were smuggling, the 512 00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:07,639 whole whole thing. You know, corruption, anti corruption, so you know, 513 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,679 they quiet. They've been gone off for a long time under different names, 514 00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:15,440 but the NCAA is their latest reincarnation. So I was. So I 515 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,320 was a inn C officer for them four and a half years. I've also 516 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,360 been a serving police officer in the county where I am based, and I've 517 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:29,159 been a police officer for ten years. I'm still serving, which I really 518 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:35,480 really enjoy and which is why all the ethics that I do for SEP agency 519 00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:40,239 and the training is just literally been lifted from them and adapted to our needs. 520 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,760 Obviously, I don't need to bring any of the law stuff into the 521 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,199 into the play because anyone that we interview or we take accounts from, they're 522 00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:53,159 not under any caution as you would be, you know if you broke a 523 00:39:53,199 --> 00:40:00,159 law for example. No, they have their rights Richard. However, that 524 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,920 said, there are parts in it, say, you know, in an 525 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,000 interviews who do so, like before we continue anything, you want to tell 526 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,920 me, you know, are you involved in any forger activity? You know, 527 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,639 we just give my chance to own up, so we're not wasting it 528 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,400 selverag time. So I do give that opportunity. But no, it's not 529 00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,239 cautious, not a law for order or anything like that at all. But 530 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,679 we do it in that manner so the evidence can be used. So we 531 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,559 will have a witness account, we'll have an interview that will be recorded, 532 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:37,679 and unlike the police, the witness account is recorded for safeguarding, because I'm 533 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,039 very much about safeguarding for not only from myself and my officers, but for 534 00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:46,239 the people that come to us the subjects, because some people do need that 535 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,679 extra bit of help, you know, they some people are struggling. Some 536 00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:55,119 people a struggling because they're experiences. Some people are struggling from mental health disorders 537 00:40:55,159 --> 00:41:01,800 that have come from childhood or you know, from birth or medications. So 538 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,960 we're all about safeguarding. So we do say to the subjects that are you 539 00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:15,480 happy for us to record you, either video or audible, but it's got 540 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:17,360 to be recorded. And if they say no, we just don't go there. 541 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,199 Because what the last thing I need is for one of my officers to 542 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:29,800 be inappropriate to someone or vice versa. Yeah, accusing us of things or 543 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,840 so. I never said that. So, and I've already had an example 544 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,119 of that someone has already questioned something that they actually they told me information that 545 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,000 they then questioned when they saw their account. Give them back to them, 546 00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,559 you know, because I give it back to them for them to sign off 547 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,159 that they've approved it. And they actually did give me that information, but 548 00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:51,239 that that subject forgot that they gave me it. But I had a recording. 549 00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:52,960 I said, I'm quite happy to share the recording. Oh sorry, 550 00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:57,039 yeah, I forgot. So as a servant police officer, that can be 551 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,000 very bad for me had I not recorded it, because they could have gone, 552 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,360 well, I figure you use a police system and find that out about 553 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,960 me and I could be under professional standards before within a blink of an eye, 554 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:12,280 I mean that I'll be suspended immediately. I mean I won't find anything, 555 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,519 so I'd never do it obviously, But you know, if I didn't 556 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,920 recall that day, I could just open myself up to a world of pain, 557 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,199 which I just don't want to do. And even to the other SEPI 558 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,679 officers, I just don't want to do anything similar for them either. And 559 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,880 you know, they're all, you know, working people, professionals in our 560 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,599 own right, So we are looking after ourselves and we are looking after the 561 00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:37,639 subjects. And I don't I don't know any other paranoral group really that have 562 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,239 that mindset. You know. They may go along with the psychic meeting. 563 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,559 They're are what's going in your house? Blah blah blah, yeah, and 564 00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:47,360 go off again and then probably never see them again or touch base with them 565 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,920 or or have any concerns, you know, because and I'm I'm quite used 566 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,039 to having difficult conversations with people if I have to, So that does If 567 00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:01,599 I do believe that there's nothing paranormal going on, I will give a reason 568 00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:07,519 why in very plain English. I don't think it's paranoral because X, Y 569 00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,480 and Z, and it may be that the Z is and I also think 570 00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:15,239 you need to go and you know you need a professional help that we can't 571 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:22,840 offer because we're not doctors. So we are there to try and you know, 572 00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:27,440 help people along. And if we've got something credible and fantastic, you 573 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,239 know we're going to You're going to know that if we've got if the Separation 574 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,599 is presenting you with evidence of something paranormal or extraterrestrial or supernatural, you know 575 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,800 we've done all our due diligence and it's it's going to be pretty good evidence 576 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,039 as best we can. Doesn't mean we're fundal to being lighter, of course 577 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:49,679 and tricked, because it can happen. Still, we're not wet, we 578 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,280 don't have X ray vision to say things, but you know we'll you'll know 579 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,519 that our quality of our data and information is going to be good. So 580 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,039 I guess if that happens you you have taken things as far as it could 581 00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:06,639 be taken, and you're better take any further, would you? Because there's 582 00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:10,599 something it's impossible to follow up on, isn't it. Yeah, something dre 583 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,360 and some things are not ready to come out yet either that we're just not 584 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,400 ready. I am mostly conscious of the fact that you know, I am 585 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,320 a government I am a government contractor as well. That's what pays my bills 586 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:31,320 maney at the moment. So I am mindful that people may think, well, 587 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,360 he works for the government. He know he's been in the NCAA and 588 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,840 police and government con but I'm not a government plant. I just want to 589 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:45,000 get that out there. My interest has not spurned on by my professional laugh 590 00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:50,320 here, I was accused of that once, being a government plant. I'll 591 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,039 tell you about that one day. I have to be you know, I 592 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,039 have to be careful. I have be professional because obviously I don't want to 593 00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:00,840 bring the government or the police and any disrepute at all, which is why 594 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,119 I do things in a professional manner, and I want to present ourselves in 595 00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:10,760 a professional manner and would never, for example, you know, belittle anybody 596 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,480 on social media. And I've already had a case where unfortunately the evidence was 597 00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:20,400 against. It was against what the subject was saying just a bit that way, 598 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,880 and the evidence was was too too much and that subject did not like 599 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,599 that. And I had really good concrete evidence. By the way, It 600 00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:32,639 wasn't a feeling. I had it physical evidence, and on your site can 601 00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,440 on your SEPI site you can see some of the evidence, which which will 602 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,800 show We'll tell everybod about that at the end of it. Yeah, so 603 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,360 I said to the subject, sorry, this is I know you're making this 604 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,599 up because the images you've given me, I've done reverse image search and I've 605 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,679 found them elsewhere. And then not of the locations that you've said, and 606 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,679 things like this, you know, so and then and then subject got very 607 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,599 angry and annoyed. And then she she went onto social media andpletely, you 608 00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:05,599 know, said lots of awful, terrible things. And as a place office, 609 00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,360 I've heard it all quite frankly, he's literally all with the duck's back. 610 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,960 But it's not the image I want. We're not saidious, you're not 611 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:20,039 there to debunk or to make anyone feel stupid. And so all I do 612 00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:22,719 in that case is that I don't, you know, I don't respond to 613 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,360 the messages. I just you know, respond to the person privately and say, 614 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,840 look, you're only harming your own self image in this way and really 615 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,079 winding yourself up and making yourself quite angry when there's really nothing to be angry. 616 00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,920 About and what I then do, I may pull that case off the 617 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,440 website just for no reason. So we don't have loads of cases on the 618 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,639 website because some of them I can't put on. I don't. We're not 619 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:52,760 there to point fingers at people deliberately, but when it's really blatant and they've 620 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,960 been making money out of it or trying to get credibility out of it, 621 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,360 then you know what, I will sposed, Yeah, they've got to be 622 00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:07,519 and I will say so. Which brings me to my Jerusalem UFO incident video. 623 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,079 So if you want to know the depth or the depth we go to 624 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:19,119 and investigations, go watch our YouTube channel, SEPY Agency. At SEP Agency 625 00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:22,920 YouTube, go look at our channel, find the one about the Jerusalem UFO 626 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,239 event. So don't feel aware of it. Dave. Back in twenty eleven, 627 00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:32,320 in the city of David's only twenty eighth, one o'clock in the morning, 628 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:40,440 some people videoed a bright orb come down slowly from the sky a genuine 629 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,079 thing. Yeah, me too, and it hovers over the Dome of the 630 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:52,360 Rock, which is you know that the very religious structure there in Jerusalem. 631 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:59,880 It started off as King Solomon's Temple. In fact, by King David's through 632 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,960 King Solomon, is meant to be where the ark of the covenment was housed. 633 00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,320 That's why the temple was built. Temple Mountains, it's also known, 634 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,440 and it's been destroyed many times thout history by the Romans and seventy BC, 635 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,320 I think one of the last ones. You know, it's been destroyed a 636 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,320 few times. So what's left and now is the base rock. The temple's 637 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,119 gone. So what you see now this beautiful building, the gold plated dome 638 00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:29,800 by the way, it's quite a lot of money sitting up there. But 639 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,639 what you see there is not the actual original temple. It's thousing the original 640 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:43,119 flagstones. And in the eleventh century the Crusaders went there, the Knights templar 641 00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,400 and took out residents, and their cover story was we're here to make sure 642 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,159 Christians can come and worship in peace and not get you hijacked by by Muslims 643 00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:57,599 at a time, so they're there to uphold the lawn and keep the peace, 644 00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:01,639 pretty much like police really and those days. But there's alsoyther stories they 645 00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:06,840 were there to either find the arkad of Govenmant or that had had discovered the 646 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:12,280 arcad of Covenant amongst other religious artifacts. So, and they were very powerful 647 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,760 order as you well know, a lot of money, a lot of power 648 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:20,199 until Friday the thirteenth coming on. Of course, King Lewis done that to 649 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,039 them, I think. So that's why we're Friday the thirteenth, beca is 650 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,639 on that day. I think it's King that when they're too powerful, let's 651 00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:30,679 go kill them all. But that's another big story. As you all know, 652 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,559 we're not going to that. So going back to our u folk, 653 00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:40,000 So it is hovering now, it flashes twice and then it it sends very 654 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:44,480 quickly and the blink of a night, it's pretty much gone. And you 655 00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:49,599 see like people you know have filmed it. So I've always, like you 656 00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,639 said, I've always thought, God, that looks really amazing. That's true. 657 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,280 Yeah, that's especially it's the film from the other side of the town 658 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,159 as well as did it by somebody apparent. Yeah, that's right. So 659 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,800 I've always been fascinated by that piece of footage and I've always thought, well 660 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,960 that's real. Then that's quite significant. You know, we really should be 661 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,320 taking note of this. So I in January of this year, I dived 662 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,639 into that and I've found seven different videos of the incident. I actually I 663 00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:22,159 actually found an eighth from later on, but it was so rubbish I just 664 00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:27,199 didn't want to feature it. The seventh video is bad enough, but I 665 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,320 found seven videos. So I've been learning video editing software by the way, 666 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,239 since October last year, so I used d vincuy Resolved nineteen as it is 667 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,480 now the new version, and I'm pretty good with it. In it I've 668 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,559 got a huge many years of it backgrounds. I've been a web developer, 669 00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:49,199 web designer, programmer, network administrator. I've done the whole thing, so 670 00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:52,400 I'm pretty technical. So I pick up the software. It's learning new stuff 671 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,239 for me, but I'm still can get my head around it. So I've 672 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,480 used that to analyze these videos. I've cut them down, I've chopped them 673 00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:04,039 up, nchronized them all. I've extracted the audio. I put that through 674 00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:07,079 a different piece of software to listen to the audio and isolated isolating it properly 675 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,920 cutting out background noise. The evinually resolve can do all that too, is 676 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,880 really good, so I've really cut into pieces. It took me nine weeks 677 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:21,159 to go through this, so my fifteen minute video I thought I was doing 678 00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:24,280 actually turned into a forty nine minute video. Because as I kept going along, 679 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,519 I kept finding anominees. I've kept finding that piece of jigsaw it didn't 680 00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:34,400 match. I kept finding another problem, and then I the SIP agency, 681 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,159 I'm proud to say, found two pieces of crucial evidence that I've never been 682 00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:44,440 spoken about in thirteen years. And I think it's because no one's ever noticed 683 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:51,239 it. But I have because I methodically went through every frame of those videos. 684 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:57,679 It took me many weeks, and I then discovered that the first video 685 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,559 which will hit mainstream media had been views and he's a very famous one. 686 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:06,039 You can see a guy standing there in the dark holding up his mobile phone 687 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,519 with another guy staying behind. What he feeling this, and then the object 688 00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:19,280 comes down. The guy that uploaded that is actually on another video taken by 689 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:25,360 students, So he apparently appears to be in two different places, nine kilometers 690 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,960 away from each other at exactly the same time. And my video will show 691 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:37,480 you that guy being in two places because he stupidly filmed himself driving the students. 692 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,960 In video four, since it's the full video, he is a driver 693 00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,519 in the car, but he's also the man on the hill taking a video 694 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,719 at the same time, and I've got a lovely shot of his face in 695 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,159 the car, and I've got a brilliant photograph that I've taken from Facebook and 696 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,360 compared the two. It's the same man, without a shadow of the doubt. 697 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,760 No one spotted that. And I don't know how he's made that such 698 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,400 a fatal mistake either, because guess what he does for a living. He's 699 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:12,280 a film producer. And the other guy in the video, which I call 700 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,000 video two, so it's from the mobile phone, here's his friends and he 701 00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:22,440 teaches film production in a school in Israel, so they're both now in and 702 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,079 they're both actors by the way, as well. And then I found out 703 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,960 the students that took the full video it's a third or fourth coming, which 704 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:37,920 one I label it now, they're all film students. The evil parting up. 705 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:42,880 Yeah, and they're not only are they film students, they're film students. 706 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,079 Talked by the guy had done Video two. It gets ridiculous, And 707 00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:52,920 you've got another video film from a hotel room, hotel balcony, which is 708 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:59,119 all shaky. And I know that shakiness is an effect you apply and Dvinci 709 00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:02,880 resolve. You can add camera shake quite easily. You can adjust it. 710 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,239 As soon as I saw, I knew that was that has been added. 711 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,400 And then and then the new the other piece of bomb show evidence which no 712 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,320 one's ever picks up on. So videos five and six were filmed by American 713 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:22,199 tourists. They were literally on the wall that surrounded the temple and it's bearing 714 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:29,039 much on one in the morning, one am, and these American tourists are 715 00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,400 there and they're filming it and they see this big object. Oh my god, 716 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,199 they go. You know, you can hear them talking and the excitement 717 00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:38,000 of his RFO. And then we have this wonderful lady. He's got this 718 00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:44,079 wonderful Mississippi accent, which is I won't replicate, I don't insult any Americans, 719 00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:50,119 but but you hear it clearly say in video five, I've seen these 720 00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:53,280 in Mississippi before, but never like these. That's what she says. She's 721 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,480 saying that in video five, as the object is hovering above the dome, 722 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,199 before the two flashes and before it takes off. Incidentally, in video five 723 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,679 there's no two flashes. They seem to have forgotten about putting those in. 724 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,880 But never mind. The point is, she says it as the object is 725 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,880 still hovering above the dome just before it flies off in video six, which 726 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,599 is taken by the same group of tourists, right next to the other lady. 727 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,320 You do you do see flashes this time, but you hear the lady 728 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:30,239 from Mississippi again because she's a bit more faint, because she's probably five or 729 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,880 you know, four or five people away now, But you do hear her, 730 00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,960 and you hear say the exactly the same phrase. You see. I've 731 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,559 seen the Mississippi before, but never like this. However, she says it 732 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:49,440 in video six after the object is departed. Yeah, and if they're standing 733 00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:54,199 together. There's no way on God's Green nurse that she can say the same 734 00:55:54,280 --> 00:56:00,519 thing in two different at the two different times she said it when you're UFO 735 00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:04,320 was there, and then the other video she said it after the UFO departied. 736 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,679 That's not possible. So I've done some morning and analysis on the audio, 737 00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:13,960 and I found another American lady given the game away at the very beginning, 738 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,480 and she says, wouldn't it be good to come back at night time? 739 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:23,599 Yeah? Of course they are, yeah, night time. And then 740 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,039 then I listened even closer, and I could I realized there's a lot of 741 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:32,000 background noise, like a lot of day activity. There's cars, there's wind, 742 00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:36,960 as people walking about. It's too busy for one o'clock in the morning. 743 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:42,039 So no one's ever presented the evidence before. Go watch the video. 744 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,960 You cannot deny it. I've I've presented the evidence as such a methodical manner, 745 00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:52,719 even going down to measuring the objects. I've even worked out a way 746 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:58,480 to measure the object too, using the dome as a measure. And the 747 00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:02,159 way of you know, the ef it's presented is exactly how said people you 748 00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:07,320 know, look at every piece evidence we get. Would be methodical, but 749 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,719 we'll have to always go in skeptical, but always have an open heart. 750 00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:16,119 I think is really important. And that's what's kind of set us aside from 751 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:22,400 maybe other groups or even the scientific community, because scientific community are not open. 752 00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:27,079 They don't have open hearts, and if they do, they don't get 753 00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:30,800 their funding and they've all got bills to pay. So I get I get 754 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,519 their fear. I understand it. I actually don't believe it's their fault. 755 00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:38,079 You know. I have sympathy for them. They've gone to career where they 756 00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,559 thought they're going to help change the world, and in fact, what they're 757 00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:46,000 doing is really just keeping it repressed. And that's the real that's a crime 758 00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:50,800 and shame. But that's not their fault. That comes from above that it 759 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,159 starts in day one of their training at university, then being indoctriated into a 760 00:57:55,199 --> 00:58:00,079 system from day one. So to me, a PhD or DOT to title 761 00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:05,960 means nothing. It just means that well done, you followed the program and 762 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,199 you know how to answer, how to propagate that in the words that they 763 00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:14,760 want you to use, and in the manner that they want you to investigate, 764 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,440 in the manner they want you to conduct yourself. Those kind of cages 765 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,079 mean nothing to me, absolutely zero, And that's the shame of it all. 766 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:28,480 If I could call myself a doctor, I think they can give me 767 00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:32,440 some title. The doctor is only is given by an organization. So I 768 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:38,039 think maybe said should give out doctrins. Now, what do you think it 769 00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:42,800 could come to that? Couldn't it? Well, at the end of the 770 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,360 day, that's all they really mean. It means that you're good at following 771 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,920 a program, and some people can't do it. Some people just cannot follow 772 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,280 the plugram and they don't they don't follow, they don't finish their study. 773 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,599 They don't. It goes too hard. I can't do it because their brains, 774 00:58:58,679 --> 00:59:05,840 just the brainers, can't you accept what's going on. So yeah, 775 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,159 unfortunately, I know there's going to be doctors and all sorts of academics out 776 00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:12,920 there. I think this guy is talking aout absolute nonsense. But I'm afraid 777 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,360 that the nonsense has been going on far too long now, and we've got 778 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:21,599 far too many people now that have kind of waken up, and unfortunately for 779 00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:25,000 them, the whole the instance that happened in twenty twenty, I think you 780 00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:28,719 know what I'm talking about. That great big thing that happened to all of 781 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,519 us, Yes, which we're not going to mention, was we're not going 782 00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:39,840 to mention, but that, unfortunately was the downfall of science and doctors and 783 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:45,440 in the space was lost. A lot of it has been lost by lots 784 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,920 of people that a lot of people just don't trust him anymore. Dinner, 785 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,519 the faith has gone, Dave, the faith has been lost. And that 786 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:57,159 is a real bad shame because there's probably lots of doctors that started their careers 787 00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:00,920 in good faith to help people. There are still good doctors out there. 788 01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:05,960 There are lots of doctors that spoke up, So hats off too. Well 789 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,679 done. The NHS as well here in the UK, you know, were 790 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,320 very going along with it, but we had the think called the ninety nine. 791 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,000 But you know, we had a big march on the NHS. They 792 01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:22,079 said we're not doing this anymore. And they to me, they're the heroes. 793 01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:25,079 They're the only heroes in the NHS at that time, because they're the 794 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:29,320 ones that stood up and said no, you know, this is not right, 795 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,119 We're not doing it. And well done to any of you that were 796 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,920 part of those marches, a part of the organization, because that's fantastic. 797 01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:40,840 But nowadays it's in Tatas and I think it's probably through design, but he 798 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,480 isn't Tatas. So going back to our lot of the academics, loads of 799 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:52,800 studies been done, paranormal loads of work. Why do they keep getting bad 800 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:59,079 raps? Why do they keep getting threatened to loser they're funding? It comes 801 01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:02,760 from a high salt, yeah, because there's there's hours out there that don't 802 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,639 want us to be how we used to be in the old days, in 803 01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:12,679 the golden years, as I heard it once been called a days where we 804 01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:15,480 could manifest things. You know, and we could. We were we were. 805 01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:20,159 We didn't know sickness. It wasn't possible to be sick, you know. 806 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,280 And the temperature was always good where we were. And it's just, 807 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,159 you know, we had abundance, we had love, we had community, 808 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,599 and we just we will help each other. There was no money, didn't 809 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:36,760 need money. Don't need money for something you can just make yourself. We 810 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,519 had, you know, free electricity. We had probably wasn't even called electricity, 811 01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:45,719 it's just a power. We had a free use of power, a 812 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:51,280 source from the EF, the for itself, from dark matter, whatever you 813 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,199 want to you where you want to bring it down from. But we could 814 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,920 harness all that stuff. And this something went very wrong, you know, 815 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,559 I say went very wrong, But I don't want to steer too much into 816 01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:07,000 that direction at this point. But I want to sort of give you a 817 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:13,119 background about why we're more open, open minded. There may be some other 818 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,280 professional outfit would be, but we're going to still do it professionally because I 819 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:22,559 believe that if we want the academic world to take things seriously and to trust 820 01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:28,000 us, that we need to kind of present the evidence in a good way 821 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:32,360 and a good practice and something that's quite water tight from the beginning and not 822 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:38,440 like Swiss cheese as it is now. So the long term objectives for second 823 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:45,000 isn't about just us getting more and more officers and doing more investigations. Yes, 824 01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:50,679 that's what I want short term. The long term is about affiliating ourselves 825 01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:55,599 with other power investigation teams and asking them, will you share your information in 826 01:02:55,679 --> 01:03:00,719 data with us? Why will you put our badge on your website? Will 827 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,760 you affiliate with us? Or or even still if they want to start start 828 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:10,159 a SEPIE branch in their country or their countcies, we can you know what 829 01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,320 come to us, and we look at starting a new branch where you are, 830 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,960 and I can get the training remotely if I have to, and set 831 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,000 out the standards and just big gatekeeper for the policies and just make sure everyone's 832 01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:29,039 doing the same thing. And the reason we've got we've got to start formalizing 833 01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:32,639 this stuff is so that things can be measured properly. For example, you're 834 01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:37,320 never going to see me walking around with a p K meter. I'm never 835 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,880 going to do that. Don't believe in them. You're never going to see 836 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,039 me using a spirit box. I don't believe in them. I know from 837 01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:47,719 a show you did recently know, Dave, there was a guy talking about 838 01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:52,760 a different technology that he was using. That fascinated me because that was on 839 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:59,679 a different wavelength. There it was, and I'm more interested in that because 840 01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:01,679 at the end of the day, well we'll win. And he's of a 841 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,800 scientific background as well. Yeah, and I did listen to him, think, 842 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,800 actually, this is not just another spirit box. This is the something 843 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,639 totally different. And I really want to remember the name of it. It's 844 01:04:12,679 --> 01:04:18,199 gone out of my head, but staticom, sorry, Static, that's it, 845 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:25,800 thank you. And the guy's name was Ron ron Yakaviti Viti. Well, 846 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,599 that that piece of work I'm actually open to because it's different. The 847 01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:33,920 ways explaining technology is very different from a cheap spirit box you can buy on 848 01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:40,199 eBay or Amazon, and those things are just I mean, i'd love to 849 01:04:40,239 --> 01:04:42,920 say to the guys that make those, show me your source code behind the 850 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,199 firmware. I was a programmer. It's still being developed. Actually, it's 851 01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:51,239 an ongoing development that's been going on with Yeah, Static, I've got that 852 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:57,239 impression. But I'd like i'd challenge anyone who makes spirit boxes out there making 853 01:04:57,239 --> 01:05:00,280 money out of it too, with all their flashy lights and things. Let 854 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,239 me see your source code. I bet you I find as microphones in your 855 01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:09,480 boxes and algorithms that you're using are taking words that people said maybe ten minutes 856 01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:13,760 earlier, regurgitating this stuff out again a bit later on. So go oh, 857 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,880 it said my name. Of course it said the name I heard you 858 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,840 about ten minutes ago. And the algorithm inside is doing that, you know. 859 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,360 I just we're not, necessay saidiated to use the Spirit boxes. I'm 860 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,480 just not brought on it. But that said, I'm always open to be 861 01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:31,400 proved wrong, proved me wrong, and then that evidence will be used on 862 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,199 our website and be used as a basis of an investigation, even an open 863 01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:41,199 investigation, and we will go with it. I mean, maybe we will 864 01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:45,599 investigate spirit boxes. Maybe we will, yeah, yeah, And maybe we'll 865 01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:48,519 investigate those teddy bears that light up. You know again, I'm not I 866 01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:57,320 don't buy it. Yes, spirit maybe you move towards different frequencies, but 867 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,519 no, I don't think these things are on the right frequency. Don't think 868 01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:04,320 they're doing it. And forget having those mobile phone apps, forget those completely. 869 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:09,320 They're totally programmed, even the ones that the stick mean right, just 870 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,679 yeah, they're good at finding out figures, but you're never going to get 871 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,679 You're never gonna get anything out with mobile phone because shocking disclosure here, mobile 872 01:06:16,719 --> 01:06:23,400 phones can't pick up ghosts. They never will do. They don't even tell 873 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:28,800 the temperature properly. They don't have those things inside them. So forget those 874 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,119 things. We're never going to be using them. But again, prove me 875 01:06:33,159 --> 01:06:36,559 wrong. You know. That's the challenge to anyone out there that thinks, 876 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:40,960 oh, don't say that listening to this saying, oh, I use apps 877 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,920 at the time and we get some amazing Yeah, we'll just get in touch 878 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,960 with you. You build the man, get in touch with you. Yeah, 879 01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:54,239 prove me wrong. And yeah, if you want to go and intain 880 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,280 yourselves in the dark room, you feel free. I'm not going to stop 881 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,119 you. But don't present that to subsidence because we aren't be listening. When 882 01:07:02,159 --> 01:07:04,679 we go and do a haunting. We don't go in with lights off, 883 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,719 for example, because why would you do that. All you're doing is enhancing 884 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:15,039 the senses that really shouldn't be engaging because you've got to try and capture these 885 01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:19,400 things on video, you know, and that's hard in itself because some of 886 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:25,519 these things don't vibrate in a frequency that your camera's going to pick up on. 887 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,760 You might see it, camera might not see it. I do believe 888 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,119 in that because some people are tuning things. Some people are not. But 889 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:40,440 there are things caught in camera, which means therefore they must at some point 890 01:07:40,719 --> 01:07:45,000 hit that frequency where the camera can catch it. Because things have been caught 891 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,039 on camera, things have been caught on digital recorders, things have been captured 892 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:54,559 on audio tape, like in my little box of tricks. I have a 893 01:07:54,599 --> 01:08:00,440 couple of digital recorders audio recorders, but because they can press sounds, I 894 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,719 don't rely on them. So I've got a nineteen eighties tape deck as well 895 01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:06,519 that I brought from a second hand shop, and I bought some tapes. 896 01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:11,280 Luckily it's still making them. So I have audio tapes because they're made of 897 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,199 silicon. They pick up sound far better than the digital one does because it 898 01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:19,119 doesn't compress sound. Therefore, I can then put it into software without the 899 01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:24,760 compression rates and I can listen to it again. Also, I can hit 900 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,840 playing my tape deck and compare it to what I'm hearing on the audio software. 901 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,039 Yeah, I can comply compression tip later if I want to keep full 902 01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:39,119 size down. But yeah, so you've got to measure things of ordinary pieces 903 01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:42,880 of equipment. I do have an EMF meter, but only it's only an 904 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,760 industrial normal one. It's not a Ghostbusters one. You can see mister Staypuff 905 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,520 behind me, shout out to the Ghostbusters out there. I'll just pay I 906 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:57,239 can see David the screen and he's got a little puppy, a little stay 907 01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:01,880 puhmallow man from Ghostbusters franchise. Actually looks actually from me, that's what you're 908 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,680 sitting on your head though, actually it does. Actually, I just realize 909 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,199 I've got on my head. I might have to move the next time I 910 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:15,880 do something like this. So the tools of the trade, you know, 911 01:09:15,119 --> 01:09:18,960 I've got a laser measurer so I can measure the room. I've got a 912 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:27,720 temperature reader, a laser temperature gauge. I've got the device that measures ultrasounds. 913 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,720 You know, the sound way that we can't hear. This thing picks 914 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:38,520 up on so we can hear things that maybe are causing us unease. So 915 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:43,640 sounds can cause you unease. So ultrasound, in infrasound, that's that's what 916 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,359 I was looking for. So infrasound can actually make you feel sick and nauseous, 917 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:51,520 or feel like somebody else there because because it's just vibrating and messing with 918 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,600 you a bit. Yeah, you say that, we were. I went 919 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,359 on what you call the ghost talent a couple of weeks ago. I told 920 01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:02,239 you about the school museum. On the first room we went into, I 921 01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:06,640 started feeling nauseous. So I don't know what caused that, but I had 922 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,840 to. I mean, after that, I came out and to have the 923 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:14,520 orange juice and sit there for a little while, and so it went off. 924 01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:18,079 Infrasound can be caused by a vibration caused by something else. It could 925 01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:23,640 be a factory across the road that has mechanicals that are going to a certain 926 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,960 rhythm. It could be an underground reservoir. It could be water. So 927 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,600 if you've got someone there good with thousand rods, maybe they should be looking, 928 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,000 you know, to see as a water source beneath the floor. Because 929 01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:40,159 it's water beneath It's all over the place. People just don't realize it. 930 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,920 So the infrasound can be caused by literally fast running water as well. So 931 01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:49,439 I've got a gay, I've got a meter that you know, looks for 932 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:54,319 this sort of stuff and ultrasounds to sound at the higher end of the spectrum 933 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:59,159 that maybe animals may hear that we don't hear. So all my tools of 934 01:10:59,239 --> 01:11:02,640 the trade are not ghosts, not catching ghosts. I don't have a ghostbuster's 935 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:08,720 box that opens up and sucks them down. It's just about rulling out the 936 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:13,399 normal stuff, because that's what's in investigation term. It's called baselining. You 937 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,640 have to baseline. You have to go, right, what's the normal measurements 938 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,520 of this thing? And then go back there later and go has that changed? 939 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,239 You know, has it changed from the last time I measured it? 940 01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:26,279 So you can't do it once. You've got to do it two or three 941 01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:30,680 times to measure a place, and it doesn't even have to be the same 942 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,840 day. But you just got to get a record of it. Hence going 943 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,279 back to my evidence, you know, it's got to be recorded properly. 944 01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:40,800 It's got to be stored somewhere, and it will be at the moment. 945 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,960 I'm talking to some guys in India who are going to be writing me the 946 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,640 SEPE database. I don't I haven't give it a name yet, but I've 947 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:53,840 written it already in VBS scripts for Excel. So I've got an Excel spreadsheet 948 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:59,119 I used. I've written this system on where I can log all means I 949 01:11:59,159 --> 01:12:01,640 didnce. It creates a new reference number. I add all my comments onto 950 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,439 it. You can attach files to it. I'll blow files to it. 951 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:11,319 You can log on as your sippy officer I D you know, and you 952 01:12:11,359 --> 01:12:14,439 can log it on yourself. The problem with it is I can't share it 953 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:19,600 with anybody because it's Phoebe scripted doesn't run on one drive or not on the 954 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:27,439 web doesn't because the macros get disabled. So I'm converting that basically to a 955 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,800 web front end and to an ESCRL back end. And I am a programmer, 956 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,199 could do it myself, but it's a contatically far too long an amount 957 01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:38,039 of time for so I'd rather pay these guys in India just to give them 958 01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:43,600 the spec. They gave them a new pricess that actually something might be going 959 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,560 for that. So they're going to be writing this for me, which means 960 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:54,439 it accessible to everybody anywhere, very much like Dr Grier's you know, disclosure 961 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,199 projects, where he's just released the dp I A. I think it is 962 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,319 database with all the categorized UFO sightings and crash landings and whistleblower accounts. Fantastic. 963 01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:08,640 You must go and check that out. There's a link on our website 964 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,640 for that too, Go and visit it. And that's all well and good. 965 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,279 That's thirty three years of hard work he's got there online for you guys 966 01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:21,600 now, of digitizing paper documents and all sorts of things. So we are 967 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,880 you might be somewhere. He's doing it already. Why are you doing it? 968 01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:30,960 I'm doing it because he's not doing supernatural paranormal. He's just focusing on 969 01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:36,319 UFOs and crush retrievals and government cover ups, which is brilliant, good, 970 01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:41,880 brilliant piece of work. We're doing the whole spectrum. We're going to be 971 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:47,800 doing the UFOs, the deductions, the cryptoids, supernatural events, paranormal you 972 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:55,359 know, ghosts and haunting's possessions. Yeah, everything, the whole spectrum. 973 01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:59,560 And if GREC could let us plug into his and share that data, the 974 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,840 vent but you know, that's that's the that's what we're trying to achieve because 975 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:08,640 I believe quite a lot of these things are connected. I believe, I 976 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,960 think. Yeah, so once you've got good data throughout the whole world, 977 01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:17,960 coming to one place, I'm really good with data, so I could start 978 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:23,960 making charts about where maybe hot spots are or where more types of activity are 979 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,640 happening, you know, like the four one one investigations I was missing people. 980 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,359 You know, he done really good work on plotting where these people are 981 01:14:32,399 --> 01:14:36,800 and there are hot spots, and we could do that as well with possessions, 982 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:43,960 hauntings, cryptoids, excitings, all sorts of things, and then open 983 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,199 it up to the general public once the office is going to be for the 984 01:14:46,199 --> 01:14:50,560 officers to begin with, and researchers, because in the SEPIOC we have SEPI 985 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:59,039 officers and SEPI researchers, and the officers are trained to do witness accounts and 986 01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:03,199 to do interviews and they're allowed to own and run a case where researchers. 987 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,199 And by the way, they're also security checks as well here in the UK, 988 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,880 so if you if they don't already hold a government security clearance like I 989 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,680 do, I I open for a security clearance myself. So they're all so 990 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,479 when they go Tong's house, they can have a bit more reassurance that you 991 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,880 know, they at least you know they go to the background check done on 992 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,920 them researchers don't need that because they don't go to people and do these things 993 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,000 on their own. They don't own cases. But there the researchers bring something 994 01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:35,760 else different to the table. They're probably experts in a subject matter, probably 995 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,399 really good at the big foot subject, or they're they were a lawyer, 996 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,000 or there were a doctor, or there are scientists in something. You know, 997 01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:47,000 they've got something to bring to the table. Officers will be doing a 998 01:15:47,039 --> 01:15:50,399 certain amount of research as well, weren't they. Oh yes, otherwise You'rejeff 999 01:15:50,399 --> 01:15:54,800 relying or somebody else to do everything else for you. You got to Yeah, 1000 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,680 I mean SEPI officers got a lot, a lot on his plate. 1001 01:15:58,119 --> 01:16:01,239 Not only has he got to conduct or he or she obviously conduct the interviews 1002 01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:05,199 and take the statements and get the evidence and also bring it to the table 1003 01:16:05,359 --> 01:16:08,880 to say, look, it's do an assessment because it's not just done on 1004 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:13,680 your own. Everybody in separas a view on it. They then got to 1005 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,319 do their investigations as well. But we've got the researchers that can just go 1006 01:16:17,319 --> 01:16:20,199 take that stress off you a little bit. So if I say, for 1007 01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:24,960 example, can you go and look at the Battle of Edge Hill sixteen forty 1008 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,279 two for me. Literally, I can go and ask that person that person, 1009 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:38,159 yeah, exactly. So that's why I've got researcher. So the researchers 1010 01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:44,159 don't and reasearch can come along to investigations. They're not excluded. They're just 1011 01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:46,119 not allowed to be running them on their own, that's all. That's because 1012 01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:49,279 they're not trained to do certain things, that's all. If they want to 1013 01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:54,000 be officer later on, they can be. So there's no rules around it. 1014 01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,159 So to join, to join the Set Agency, go to our website. 1015 01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:03,039 There's a way of contacting us on there. Go to our form, 1016 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,760 let me know that you're interested, and you'll get sent You'll ever probably an 1017 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,560 now chat with myself to begin with, and then I'll send you forms that 1018 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,600 are new filling in for research or anyone anywhere in the world. Is this 1019 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,840 is open to Isn't it not just in the UK? Yeah, if you're 1020 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:26,199 listening to this anywhere anywhere, you can just get in touch with Dave yep 1021 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,960 and I will be I'll be open with you now because the code of ethics 1022 01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:34,640 that we go by is about honesty and transparency that we will not take everybody 1023 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:41,880 on, Okay, because I simply can't take everybody on. And I also 1024 01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:45,279 I've got to feel comfortable that they're going to represent the agency in the way 1025 01:17:45,319 --> 01:17:49,359 that I, you know, expect from the Code of Ethics, not not 1026 01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,399 that they've got to be seeing on hem street as me. I'm not saying 1027 01:17:53,399 --> 01:17:57,479 they got believe everything. I'm saying we've got to agree with it, because 1028 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,319 if it's a case you've got a hypothesis to push out with, all got 1029 01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:02,399 to be on the same page for that. But that would have been hopefully 1030 01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:06,640 a group discussion to begin with. Sometimes I do go ahead on one, 1031 01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:11,880 just get it out there. But because at the moment, I'm doing all 1032 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,039 the video editing myself, all the logo work. You see, I've done 1033 01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:17,359 myself for the T shirts and it's all done by myself. So I'm doing 1034 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,920 quite a lot at the moment. But as the officers you know, come, 1035 01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:26,840 I can then start diving out that work that workloads of other people. 1036 01:18:27,399 --> 01:18:30,560 So yeah, you can come from any background, if you're video editors, 1037 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,359 if you're in sound engineering, even if you're because all those have skill sets 1038 01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:38,840 we can bring to investigations too, because some might go to me, actually 1039 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,880 that device you've got doesn't get all infra sound. You need this. I 1040 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,079 don't know that. I'm not an expert. So this is why we need 1041 01:18:46,119 --> 01:18:53,640 a broad spectrum of officers and researchers to come. So, yeah, come 1042 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,920 let us know, and we want to Yeah, we want to be pushing 1043 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,920 it out there. So yeah. One of the other things we're going to 1044 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,680 do we spoke about this day already, is that we're going to be looking 1045 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:10,840 at running a convention maybe next year. Yes, exciting, I've got to 1046 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,880 give it a work at a moment. I'm actually in my training mode at 1047 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,960 the moment as a trainee officer, which I'm hoping you very shortly. Yes. 1048 01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:21,840 So we we have we have a like the like the police or in 1049 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:27,640 militaries or I've got miniature backgrounds or I should have probably mentioned. We have 1050 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,920 a ranking structure. We have a hierarchy. And people might say, oh, 1051 01:19:31,039 --> 01:19:34,039 is that for your ego benefit. It's not about the ego. It's 1052 01:19:34,039 --> 01:19:40,319 about knowing where what clearly what your role is and knowing that you've got the 1053 01:19:40,319 --> 01:19:43,439 support above you if you need it. Just that's why we have a rank 1054 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,319 structure in the army. Is while you have in the police service and you 1055 01:19:45,359 --> 01:19:48,319 have it in the in in paramedics as well. They have a rank structure. 1056 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:55,479 I think even I don't R S p C A. That's any company 1057 01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,279 whatever, the structure like that. So I'm not I'm not I'm I'm not 1058 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,479 ashamed of having a rank structure. We need it. We'll have that in 1059 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,560 place because ultimately, as I as the founder, I sit at the top 1060 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,199 and I have to at least and then they make a decision about yeah that 1061 01:20:11,239 --> 01:20:14,199 police is right, it is not right, and I won't do that siloed. 1062 01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:15,960 I always kind of ask the officers too, as you will know, 1063 01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:19,239 Dave, what the opinions are. If I don't get the opinions back, 1064 01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:24,920 then you can't moan it. It wasn't hurt. That's my attitude. So 1065 01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:28,319 yeah, So when you join and you get accepted as a se office, 1066 01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:31,279 you start as what's known as a potential officer a p s O, which 1067 01:20:31,319 --> 01:20:35,920 is what I am. What you like knowing Dave, yet and then you 1068 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,920 become an s SO which is a SEPI officer. Once you've got the training 1069 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,159 done and you get your ID badge, you get your T shirt with PARDO 1070 01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:47,359 shirt like this one I'm sponting here with the SEPI shield on it. The 1071 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:55,199 shield is only which comes out well on the radio, but it's shine it 1072 01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:00,199 looks on the radio. If you go to the Paranormal Dimensions Sir page some 1073 01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:03,079 point. If you on Facebook, you'll see pictures of it all anyway, 1074 01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:05,600 Yeah, you see pictures of it. So we have a main logo which 1075 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,800 is a circular logo out of naming it, and we have a we have 1076 01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:14,279 the officer's shield as well, which is a you know, you've got to 1077 01:21:14,319 --> 01:21:16,119 earn your shield basically, and it's got lots of meaning it which I'll go 1078 01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:19,720 into maybe another day, but there's lots of meanings in the shield that are 1079 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:25,159 designed for this, a lot of protection and all sorts of things inside it. 1080 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,439 So you then get to where the shield as it were, and you 1081 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,840 get the ID your ID card properly, and your lanyard and work good stuff. 1082 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,520 You get DBS checks well, so you can't become a SEPI office too. 1083 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:41,880 D ye done. So yours just done and you've had the training. 1084 01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:45,399 So and then we have another rank above THATACK called a Senior SEPI Officer. 1085 01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,000 Soo's an Sso we don't have any of those yet because I don't have enough 1086 01:21:49,039 --> 01:21:56,439 of you guys to warrant it, but I will do because an SSO we'll 1087 01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,960 probably look after about ten different SEPI officers under there sort of care. So 1088 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,680 they've got that guidance. And I've seen it too much in the army and 1089 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:09,720 in the police that without it, you just you know, it just goes 1090 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:15,039 waywards. Just you need that structure. Yeah, and then above that is 1091 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,960 in his senior executive officer, which is really what I am, just the 1092 01:22:18,039 --> 01:22:24,119 founder, and I may change that structure later on. I may feel there 1093 01:22:24,119 --> 01:22:27,960 needs to be another level between an SSO and me, or we might need 1094 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,920 some lother ones. I don't know, but I don't want to overcomplicate it 1095 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,520 at this point. So we have got SEPI researchers, potential step officers, 1096 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:42,399 SEPI officers, senior SIPI officers, and obviously myself. So that's the rank 1097 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:47,680 structure at the moment, and I think they will help on clarifying roles responsibilities 1098 01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:55,520 properly and help for when you're starting off on your own investigation, you know, 1099 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,039 when you want that additional support that you know, you know who to 1100 01:22:59,159 --> 01:23:02,159 ask, you know where to go. So when when there's many of us, 1101 01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:04,720 it would be really important that we have the senior SIP the officers in 1102 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:10,399 place, because they need to make sure they're looking after their fold, as 1103 01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:14,840 it were, that the group in a proper manner. And if they if 1104 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,880 they don't know what the answer is, and they come to me and we 1105 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,079 will discuss it all. You know, it's an open forum still at the 1106 01:23:19,119 --> 01:23:26,399 end of the day, especially in this early stages. But it may seem 1107 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:32,159 quite anal to some people. But I think now it's time that we all 1108 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:36,199 start working properly together. This is what really we're trying to achieve. I'm 1109 01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:41,079 trying to say to all you guys out there in your paranormal groups around the 1110 01:23:41,159 --> 01:23:45,880 world to stop working alone. Start sharing your data, start sharing your information, 1111 01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:50,159 start showing your practices the best practices. Start sharing about the silly boxes 1112 01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:55,000 that you find are rubbish. Tell us about them so we can start looking 1113 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,640 into them before discounting them. We don't want to destroy anybody's business that may 1114 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,079 may make some of these boxes. But in seagency, you've got to be 1115 01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:05,159 a serious investigator. Then we've got we've got to know what a good tool 1116 01:24:05,159 --> 01:24:11,560 set looks like, and that's still in conception now, so we need that 1117 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,119 we need the experience of those groups that have been gained for many years, 1118 01:24:15,159 --> 01:24:19,239 far longer than us obviously, to come together and say, you know, 1119 01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:24,720 yeah we can we can add some value to that, and we want to 1120 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,039 share with you. We want to be part of SEPI, so they can 1121 01:24:29,079 --> 01:24:35,079 I have become a SEPIE branch completely, so there'll be known SEPY Agency Massachusetts 1122 01:24:35,159 --> 01:24:41,000 or whatever, or they can carry on with their own identity and but just 1123 01:24:41,079 --> 01:24:46,239 be affiliated to the SEPY Agency. ALLWARD ask is that you guys follow pretty 1124 01:24:46,319 --> 01:24:49,920 much the you know, the concepts that we're following. That's all we ask, 1125 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,680 and that you're sharing that information with us, and you know why. 1126 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,319 That is why we need this web application that's got to be up and live 1127 01:24:58,039 --> 01:25:00,960 before really I can stop gathering that data. Yeah, but I can still 1128 01:25:01,159 --> 01:25:04,840 on board people now. There's no nothing's stopping me doing that right now. 1129 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:13,039 So anybody out there was interested in you in becoming a researcher or officer you 1130 01:25:13,079 --> 01:25:15,880 know inju course, then get in touch with Dave. I'll put links on 1131 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:21,199 the perm of the ANSWER's page as well for it. And also I guess 1132 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,920 also if you've got any interesting cases you might want looking into, you think 1133 01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:30,640 you'd like seppy to look into. Absolutely, yeah, we could do. 1134 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,279 Were bombarded with loads of stuff, but it felt free, you know, 1135 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,520 just bring it our way. I mean, it's I'm going to be quite 1136 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,680 honest with people that just bring me a photograph that, at the end of 1137 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,840 the day is just antidote to evidence. That's scientific community would categorize that, 1138 01:25:47,319 --> 01:25:50,840 and we're no different. It's going to be very difficult to prove something in 1139 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:55,319 a photograph and that's all you've got, especially it was about twenty years ago 1140 01:25:55,640 --> 01:26:00,079 that something happens. You know, we're quite happy to analyze that. We 1141 01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:02,399 have to software to analyze, and also have a guy that you know, 1142 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:08,239 Dave, that does analyze video footage really well. He's a bit of an 1143 01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:11,880 expert in the field. He's helped us out a couple of times. He 1144 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,359 hasn't committed himself to be a research quite yet, Dave, but I'm working 1145 01:26:15,359 --> 01:26:21,880 on him as well. Yeah, if you weren't mind, but he's been 1146 01:26:23,119 --> 01:26:28,600 already like helpful the thing he is with him. We will mention these names 1147 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,920 because it's not fair, but you as usually if you do ask him a 1148 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,079 question, he will come back with an answer. So yeah, he does 1149 01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:39,439 and what for me, that's you know, I'm very good at with photoshop 1150 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,239 as well, and likes the image in software. So it's good for me 1151 01:26:43,399 --> 01:26:47,319 to go do my analysis and then give it to somebody else about telling what 1152 01:26:47,359 --> 01:26:50,840 I found and say can you have a look at this? And then it's 1153 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:56,119 really good when the same he finds the same things and even back with him 1154 01:26:56,119 --> 01:26:59,880 because he's more he's better than me. He finds extra stuff that I never 1155 01:27:00,039 --> 01:27:03,359 But it's really good for me because it proves I'm on the right track and 1156 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,800 how I'm analyzing things. Okay, good thing. You actually learn from each 1157 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,239 other as well, don't yeah, like you say, yeah yeah, So 1158 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,239 I use the you know, the industry tools to try and analyze what I 1159 01:27:15,319 --> 01:27:19,159 can. But Alien David just handing us a photographs especial. If it's not 1160 01:27:19,159 --> 01:27:23,479 the original, there's not a lot we can do with it. So if 1161 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:28,720 you do have photographic evidence or video evidence, let us know. But it's 1162 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,840 got to be the original. It can't be embedded in an email, it 1163 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:38,800 can't be a screenshot, it can't be like you know, copyed from something 1164 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:43,800 else. We need the original because that would give us a whole bunch of 1165 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,479 information as well. Because in every video that's original and photograph that's original, 1166 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:53,840 there is a lot of metadata hidden within that that I can extract and read, 1167 01:27:54,319 --> 01:27:58,439 which gives us loads of information about the ISO settings and all all sorts 1168 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,640 of good stuff. They can give us an idea about what's going on. 1169 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,960 And a good example that that we've had one recently in which I call ghost 1170 01:28:05,039 --> 01:28:13,640 shoes. The guy sent this a a picture which is quite odd of a 1171 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,880 path of some green behind it at a park and you just saw a pair 1172 01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,239 of trainers pretty much walking along this. It's still in me just not a 1173 01:28:20,319 --> 01:28:24,159 video, but just a pair of trainers and no body attached to it. 1174 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,279 So I analyzed it for a number of weeks and also gave it to the 1175 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:35,239 other guy that we mentioned to analyze, and we both felt that the image 1176 01:28:35,319 --> 01:28:42,560 was manipulated. However, we're not actually saying or accusing the person the subject 1177 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:48,119 of the manipulation which I started to see and a trained lately of weird odd 1178 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:55,560 of things appearing in pictures on people that have got iPhones, and I've done 1179 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:59,319 a bit of looking into this, and there are some defects it appears, 1180 01:28:59,359 --> 01:29:02,119 and the iPhone twelve and up in the camera I've don't know, it's a 1181 01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:05,880 software thing. I'm not sure what it is, but there are defects and 1182 01:29:08,319 --> 01:29:11,560 we've closed the case now, but I've told the subject that we do believe 1183 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:15,640 it's manipulated, but not saying it's necessarily you. Yeah, we feel that 1184 01:29:15,159 --> 01:29:19,840 something's happened with the camera itself that's made it look like it's been sort of 1185 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:26,680 smudged out. And I said a few smudging images recently. Yes, you 1186 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,880 know, it doesn't always mean we don't believe you. We think you faked 1187 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,079 it. There are other explanations, you know, and we don't upset everybody 1188 01:29:34,079 --> 01:29:38,399 that comes to us saying you faked it, and there are going to be 1189 01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,079 fakes, And to those people, I say, just don't bother wasting our 1190 01:29:42,079 --> 01:29:45,039 time, please, because as you know, you've already taken that well on 1191 01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:49,159 board, the Israeli one. So yeah, they've also proven. I mean 1192 01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:53,439 a lot of people out there will think, like I did, that was 1193 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:58,399 genuine and you did as well. We're trying, we're on your side. 1194 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,439 We're trying to present real evidence. That's what we're trying to do. We 1195 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:08,520 don't want to be bombarded with a load of stupid pictures or videos of people 1196 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:13,680 just done TikTok or they've done it themselves or ghostack or something like that. 1197 01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:16,279 Just you know, let's stop wasting each other's time. Just give us stuff 1198 01:30:16,319 --> 01:30:21,399 that you feel is genuine. If you wholeheartedly think it's genuine and you want 1199 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:27,319 an answer, or if you're getting played by problems to this day, like 1200 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,079 a haunting poultic geist activity, come tell us, come let us know, 1201 01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:34,800 and we will help you because we've got a different view on poltic geists, 1202 01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:41,239 totally different view which we feel will help you. And I think it will 1203 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,399 sort of surprise some people when they hear our take on it, because I'm 1204 01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,000 going to be very bold here Dave and say I don't believe in ghosts. 1205 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:57,359 All right, Okay, I believe in supernatural things, but I don't believe 1206 01:30:58,079 --> 01:31:03,600 the term ghost is a number at a term, much like schizophrenia would be 1207 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:09,920 for many types of mental health issues, not multiple personality disorder and stuff like 1208 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,000 that. Ghost is just one of those terms. So the reason I say 1209 01:31:15,039 --> 01:31:17,760 that is that I've come up with one of our new hypotheses in this ap 1210 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:25,600 agency is something called a traumatic time impression. Now that is, if you 1211 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,279 could try to envision it a hologram of a past event playing out front of 1212 01:31:29,279 --> 01:31:31,960 your very eyes. Again, that's the easiest way of saying it. How 1213 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:39,479 do you know it's a hologram because that apparition doesn't acknowledge you, doesn't know 1214 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,479 you're there. You might think it does because you're maybe looking at the things 1215 01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:48,399 a recording basically within the Yeah, absolutely, it won't know you're there, 1216 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,880 and it probably won't change what it does. It probably does the same thing 1217 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:59,119 over and over and over again. That is a traumatic time impression. And 1218 01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:05,359 it's been given that TTI label because I firmly believe that trauma can imprint on 1219 01:32:05,399 --> 01:32:12,000 the fabric of time space its very self, very much like trying putty against 1220 01:32:12,039 --> 01:32:15,479 the window. It splat against it. Leave that impression and it will just 1221 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,880 slowly drip away or drip in a pond. The ripples are be there to 1222 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,199 be seen, but they eventually will fade away. And I believe that traumatic 1223 01:32:27,239 --> 01:32:32,079 timepressions are quite common, very common. They can be happening from individuals, 1224 01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:38,680 maybe murder victims, people put that in you know RTCs, sorry, road 1225 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:45,720 traffic collisions. There are suddenly sudden deaths and also big battles, big famous 1226 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:50,079 battles, which takes it back to why I mentioned edge Hill earlier on the 1227 01:32:50,079 --> 01:32:58,399 Battle of Edgefield sixteen forty two, because in is it Warwickshire? Well, 1228 01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,359 yeah, what I think is this, I might have that wrong to look 1229 01:33:01,399 --> 01:33:06,520 that up. Uh my book, I've got my notes here. I hate 1230 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:12,359 being wrong on the facts. So back in sixteen forty two it was probably 1231 01:33:12,359 --> 01:33:16,479 pretty much the first civil the English Civil War. A big battle occurred there. 1232 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,840 Really where is it whereas Warwick? Yeah? Is Warwickshire? Got it 1233 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:30,000 right? Fantastic, that's right. I was about to say that, but 1234 01:33:30,119 --> 01:33:33,199 they came together out there was a big battle there and obviously you can imagine 1235 01:33:33,199 --> 01:33:39,720 there's cannon fire, muskets and swords and horses and drums. It must have 1236 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:44,520 been a horrific experience cous soldiering back then, it's very different to it is 1237 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,960 now. It was close combat. It was looking you an him in the 1238 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:53,079 eye and literally chopping bits off of them. I mean that is traumatic in 1239 01:33:53,119 --> 01:33:59,720 itself to nobody. It was indecisive. Yeah, was well to male wars 1240 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,199 away time, but anyway, another subject. But so it was it must 1241 01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:08,119 have been a traumatic thing. So that occurred on twenty third of October sixteen 1242 01:34:08,199 --> 01:34:12,159 forty two, although the dates there's a different calid system back then, but 1243 01:34:12,199 --> 01:34:15,399 we won't go into that. Twenty Roll forward now to the twenty four to 1244 01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:20,119 for December of the same year. Three shepherds attending their flock out in the 1245 01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:26,239 fields. It's cold, it's December and the UK, and they hear drums 1246 01:34:26,279 --> 01:34:30,560 banging, they hear bangs, they hear cries, men screaming and shouting, 1247 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:36,000 and then they see a whole battle of edgewat Edge Hill happen again right in 1248 01:34:36,039 --> 01:34:40,920 front of the very eyes. They see them, physically see them. They're 1249 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:46,479 so terrified, these guys. They stayed put for three hours and apparition that 1250 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:51,159 last three hours can you imagine. So yeah, they were so convinced that 1251 01:34:51,239 --> 01:34:56,279 if they got up moved they would being killed. It must have been that 1252 01:34:56,359 --> 01:35:00,960 lifelike. They finally got back to their the town, the village that they 1253 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:08,159 lived in, Kindton, I think it's pronounced. They woke up the Just 1254 01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:13,199 of the Peace, mister Woods and mister Marshall, the minister. They took 1255 01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:15,920 them there but they saw nothing but what they said, well, we'll come 1256 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,800 back the next day then and have a look. So now it's Christmas Christmas 1257 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,960 Day, twenty fifth, but it's one in the morning, by the way, 1258 01:35:24,399 --> 01:35:28,720 so really it's a twenty sixth, really December in the morning. But 1259 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,159 the townfolk are come out now, and the Justice of the Peace, and 1260 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:38,239 the minister and the shepherd, so there's a big audience. Now the same 1261 01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:42,479 thing happens again. They see it with their own eyes, the whole battle 1262 01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,800 again in front of the very eyes. People run back to the houses, 1263 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:50,000 locked the doors and pray to God for help. They are scaled out their 1264 01:35:50,039 --> 01:35:55,159 minds. You can imagine it, though. It must be scary. They 1265 01:35:55,199 --> 01:36:00,479 then send word to King Charles the First about this horrific event, you know 1266 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,319 it's and it gets to hear about it. It must have been that bad 1267 01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:09,119 that he actually sent six officers down there to go and investigate it in his 1268 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:15,439 military. Six officers. The following weekend again, and the same morning, 1269 01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,640 one o'clock in the morning, it happens again, and for a third time. 1270 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:25,199 So these officers not only did they write a document that apparently was stored 1271 01:36:25,239 --> 01:36:30,199 in the British National Records at the time which is now called National Archives, 1272 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,680 they wrote this full report to King Charles the First saying that they did see 1273 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:40,119 it. It wasn't imagined. They couldn't steal the town. I settle their 1274 01:36:40,119 --> 01:36:44,359 minds. And not only did they see it and witness it, they recognize 1275 01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:46,720 some of the people in it because some of those six officers served in that 1276 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,680 very battle. Now here's the clincher for me. This is why I know 1277 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:55,720 these are not ghosts. They didn't just see the dead there Daves, they 1278 01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:04,880 saw the living. So to me, other people call that residue energy. 1279 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:12,079 People call them ghosts apparitions. No, you're seeing a traumatic time impression. 1280 01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:17,960 Is literally like a hologram replaying to you again. And I think, and 1281 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,279 I don't. This is a bit I don't know yet. It's still it's 1282 01:37:20,319 --> 01:37:25,239 an open investigation, so there's still things to be to be found out. 1283 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:30,119 I think the ttis fade after a time, so I think they come strong 1284 01:37:30,119 --> 01:37:32,680 at a certain time. I don't know what the trigger is quite yet, 1285 01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:39,359 but I do think they fade. But obviously the verbal story goes on forever. 1286 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,920 I mean, that story obviously is now here in twenty twenty four. 1287 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,640 We still know about those those apparitions, so that goes on. So I've 1288 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:53,600 done some digging in the National Archives Parliamentary National Archives, Oxford Ones as well. 1289 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,600 I've done lots of digging and I found a lovely guy there that's come 1290 01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:00,039 back with loads of helpful information for us, and he says, although the 1291 01:38:00,079 --> 01:38:05,279 original report is not found, there is a guy that wrote a book in 1292 01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:11,119 sixteen forty three about the actual report who's pretty much word for worded it, 1293 01:38:11,279 --> 01:38:15,039 and that exists. I've got it on PDF right now. That does exist. 1294 01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:18,479 It does clearly state that the sixth officers sworn oath to the King Charles 1295 01:38:19,159 --> 01:38:26,119 Times of First that they saw they saw. It's funny because the guy gave 1296 01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:29,920 me that document was still very skeptical himself. He said, oh, if 1297 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,640 you read it, he says, they talk about an oath, but not 1298 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:35,439 that it happens. But I've read it and he actually says they gave an 1299 01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,800 oath, that it was a true It was a true account, as I 1300 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:44,359 gave an oath when I joined the police and in the army. So that's 1301 01:38:44,399 --> 01:38:46,720 to me, that's strong. You don't make an oath and make a story 1302 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,680 like that if it's not true. I think he mostly stronger the fact there 1303 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:54,079 were six of them as well, not just one person, and that they 1304 01:38:54,119 --> 01:38:59,359 recognize a living So ttis can be showing the people that are still alive. 1305 01:39:00,039 --> 01:39:04,399 They could have been within that bubble of that trauma at the time, and 1306 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:10,560 I and I really would love to know how they got triggered. Can we 1307 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,960 can we trigger them at will? Could we go back there to this day 1308 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,039 except whatever the trigger points are and recreate it and make it play again. 1309 01:39:19,359 --> 01:39:24,359 Because if we can do that, you're now tripping on the on the world 1310 01:39:24,399 --> 01:39:29,640 of time travel. Imagine that you could go anywhere and go, let's see 1311 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,960 that for real. Can you imagine the implications on history? And you know 1312 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:39,159 what it means to us as a SPECIs to know that we had that power 1313 01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:46,239 to do that. So a pushing TTI forward as an open investigation as well 1314 01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:49,319 as the etious domentory entities I'd like to come to. If we've got the 1315 01:39:49,359 --> 01:39:55,760 time, that's another one we're pushing forward because I think that explains the actual 1316 01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:00,479 spirits that people do get played by, such as Poltergei's activity and physical thing 1317 01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,960 like the thing that attacked me last apful for example. You know, I 1318 01:40:04,199 --> 01:40:06,680 don't know, I'm not going to say that's a ghost, that's an EDE, 1319 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:11,680 that's an extra dimensional entity. That was playing City Buggers with me. 1320 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,720 Quite frankly, I do believe in the in the dimensional stuff goes on as 1321 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,560 well. I actually do believe in ghosts as well, but I can't Obviously, 1322 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:24,239 nobody can prove anything either way, so at the moment, but I 1323 01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:27,760 don't want to take away the romance of the world ghosts at all. You 1324 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,359 know, it's a romantic concept. I mean, you're never going to get 1325 01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:35,800 a film called Edo called I think the thing is. I mean, if 1326 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:41,680 you believe in like life after death, if you it kind of goes along 1327 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,640 with the ghost concept because you know, you think about the seven planes of 1328 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,079 existence and all sorts of stuff like that. I can hear people screaming now, 1329 01:40:49,159 --> 01:40:54,239 you can hear screming. Well, I know you're part of came back. 1330 01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,880 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not just counting spirits and this at all. 1331 01:40:58,399 --> 01:41:00,640 I do believe in spirit. I do believe in that. You know 1332 01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:04,640 your I do believe in your soul. I believe it can be two parts. 1333 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,319 It can one can linger, one can move on. You know. 1334 01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:11,520 I do believe in that stuff. So it's not even taking that away from 1335 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,520 anybody. What I'm trying to explain to people is if you see a repetitive 1336 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:20,199 ghost, then not to be afraid. It's not a ghost. It's never 1337 01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:24,800 going to harm you. And in fact, you should be really revalleased that 1338 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:30,199 you're seeing a supernatural event because it's natural. That the emphasis on the word 1339 01:41:30,399 --> 01:41:34,000 natural from supernatural. It is natural, but to you and to us, 1340 01:41:34,079 --> 01:41:39,039 it's super because it's a it's a new thing. We don't we've never understood 1341 01:41:39,079 --> 01:41:43,760 it, but now, so pushing it forward, we are going to understand 1342 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,119 it. And the academic world can jump on board or not. I really 1343 01:41:47,159 --> 01:41:53,239 don't care either way because they can't prove it as much as I can't. 1344 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:57,439 But right now, I think this makes more sense. While people go but 1345 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,000 the Gettysburg Fields example, always goes signs going on there. They say, 1346 01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:05,520 no, they're not they're not going, they're just seeing the TTI is reoccurring. 1347 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:10,640 But they still feel as privileged, you know. But just what they 1348 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,359 don't need now is the fear. That's what I'm trying to do is say 1349 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,880 remove the fear, you know, and you may may even see more of 1350 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,880 them. I don't know. But my only dealt with that is that I 1351 01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,399 feel that it is a ripple, and I think it does fade over time. 1352 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,760 That's the only issue. So I'd love to be proven otherwise of that, 1353 01:42:30,279 --> 01:42:34,279 because we can find some good, strong evidence that there are still these 1354 01:42:34,319 --> 01:42:39,439 battles been replayed to this very day, and maybe that that ripples more of 1355 01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:44,760 a bounces back again. So say like the drop, the drop is in 1356 01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,960 a cup, So the ripples hit the edge of the walls of the cup 1357 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:51,960 and then come back in again, don't they they retract? Maybe maybe that's 1358 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,239 the model. I don't know yet. I can't actually put a defensive answer 1359 01:42:56,239 --> 01:42:59,760 on it. But we're going to push this forward as an open investigation, 1360 01:43:00,119 --> 01:43:04,079 as a new hypothesis. So traumatic time impression. You heard it here, 1361 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:08,800 You're going to hear a lot more. Yeah, I mean to be honest 1362 01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:12,880 when you when you say it that it does actually make sense that you're watching 1363 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,560 are recorded. I mean, Richard Phoenix has written written about it in the 1364 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:21,439 past about like the manget like stone effects, like the stone tape theory, 1365 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:26,079 which is the same type of thing. Really, well, this is why 1366 01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:31,159 I use audio tapes worth than the investigations, because the tape in your cassette 1367 01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,960 and your VHS records back in the day is silicon. Yeah, it's stone, 1368 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:41,560 and there's there was a case where I heard about and I need to 1369 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,640 find the facts on this one because I can't. I don't know the name 1370 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,000 of the pub, but there was a public house in the UK which is 1371 01:43:46,039 --> 01:43:49,640 being haunted quite a lot, lots of noises in a function room. There's 1372 01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:54,960 an old pub and I think it's colling like the court room or something like 1373 01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,720 that, because guess what, it used to be a cult room back in 1374 01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,800 the day, in sixteenth century or something century, and they kept and some 1375 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,560 investigation team went to look at it. I think there were a scientific theme, 1376 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:10,840 not a paranormal team as it were, and they've done some measurements in 1377 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,479 there and they did hear they heard noises, men's shouting, noise sort of 1378 01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,079 thing, and then someone had a gable, you know, been hit like 1379 01:44:18,119 --> 01:44:23,920 a judge banging the table. What they come to realize was that these stone 1380 01:44:25,319 --> 01:44:28,119 work and the actual building and the function room, because it's still part of 1381 01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:33,039 the original building, had a high silicon content. That's what tape's made of. 1382 01:44:34,039 --> 01:44:41,760 Therefore, it makes absolute sense that that's what I term is supernatural because 1383 01:44:42,399 --> 01:44:47,199 the impressions from the trauma going on in the courtroom, the arguments. These 1384 01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:53,319 are people getting sentenced to either death or imprisonment. That's got to be traumatic. 1385 01:44:54,079 --> 01:44:57,399 That it's literally been left in the fabric of the silicon, in the 1386 01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:02,319 actual brickwork. So that that made me go, yes, that that's what 1387 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:06,560 it is. That's that's what I get. And maybe these t t EI 1388 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:12,399 that play out in h Hill or Gettysburg, maybe we need to do some 1389 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,720 soul samples. What's what's the silicon content? Like there? Do they happen 1390 01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:26,640 on on on the sands and Normandy more? You know, Sandy's silicon and 1391 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,439 sands in pretty much everything and building materials, isn't it. It's it's very 1392 01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:36,000 common. Sand is in your computer chips. Micro chips also be something in 1393 01:45:36,039 --> 01:45:42,119 the in the air that we don't even recognize yet that it's causing somebody's recordings 1394 01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:45,600 as well. It might not just be it could be something else as well. 1395 01:45:45,239 --> 01:45:47,560 Yeah, And that's why I say, like the T T I is 1396 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:53,079 like hitting the frabic of time space itself, So can leave that impression in 1397 01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:57,880 the in the maybe not any physical realm, but on something else on the 1398 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,960 different dimension. There's something something that struck me when you were talking about the 1399 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:05,479 time factor with that battle that there was one o'clock in the morning. I 1400 01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:09,479 mean, there's no such thing as time really as such as there, so 1401 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,439 it could happen at any time, not at one o'clock in the morning. 1402 01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:17,439 Part of the investigation for this particular one will be why was it that many 1403 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:23,479 minutes later? If you break it down to minutes, Why was it like 1404 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:28,000 a week Why did it take almost two months for the first one got played 1405 01:46:28,039 --> 01:46:30,199 out? Maybe it didn't, maybe it did play it before, but no 1406 01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:33,680 one saw it. But then why did it have a three times in a 1407 01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:39,199 row three weekends in a row? Was significant about the timing of that? 1408 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,359 And then why did it stop that? The only especially I got for why 1409 01:46:43,359 --> 01:46:46,640 that particular thing may have stopped is that the king ordered that all the bodies 1410 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,800 that were still on the field. By the way, they weren't all buried 1411 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:55,520 or burnt, but he said he ordered that they ought to have a Christian 1412 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,640 burial. Now, I don't want to go into like, well, how 1413 01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:03,359 we just things could make that better, But I think the very act of 1414 01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:09,920 burying and disturbing the grounds, you see what I'm going with it, it's 1415 01:47:10,359 --> 01:47:15,600 I think invertally it kind of works. Something works and it stopped happening. 1416 01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:21,319 Now has it been seen since sixteen forty two, I don't know, sixteen 1417 01:47:21,359 --> 01:47:25,439 forty three, I don't know. So, like I said, that's an 1418 01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:29,439 open investigation and we'll we'll dig more into that. So if anyone's got any 1419 01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:34,960 more stories of these tti's events going on from big battles or even just like 1420 01:47:35,399 --> 01:47:39,520 you know, the ghostly woman walks through the park, you know that's that's 1421 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:44,640 a TTI. You know it's often seen. It never interacts with anybody, 1422 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,239 then that's it. If it's like a spirit like you see in Ghostbusters are 1423 01:47:48,279 --> 01:47:53,439 the librarian scene, Yeah, it turns around and screams at you, there's 1424 01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:58,600 probably not a TTI. We've got a lot of listeners are listening in America 1425 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,399 and the Civil War bat fields over there. If you've got any experiences that 1426 01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:06,680 you might like to relate to separate, be interested. Yeah, I mean 1427 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:11,119 I've seen some good ones on Gettysburg already. But yeah, absolutely. If 1428 01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:15,319 you've got something, and if it's original footage, please bring it to us, 1429 01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,119 okay, and we will make a case out of it, and we 1430 01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:24,800 will probably make we put We do ask every subject's permission and consent to put 1431 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,840 it onto our website, make it public and to make YouTube video out of 1432 01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:30,680 it as well, because we like to do that too. And if you 1433 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,199 don't give consent, you know what's fine. We're still looking to it for 1434 01:48:33,279 --> 01:48:38,720 you. We just won't publicize it. We fully, you know, respect 1435 01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:45,239 everybody's privacy and privacy. Would never break that trust ever, And it could 1436 01:48:45,279 --> 01:48:48,039 even say yeah, put it on your website by just to nominize my name, 1437 01:48:48,079 --> 01:48:51,720 and we do that too well. Able to point out that there's a 1438 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:58,000 lot a charge involved in this is a free service, I think in case 1439 01:48:58,039 --> 01:49:00,880 people start thinking, oh, we're going to charge me to look into this 1440 01:49:00,039 --> 01:49:04,600 particular case. Yeah, the absolute spotted. I should have mentioned that maybe 1441 01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,520 a lot sooner, but yes, for now, it's free of charge. 1442 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:12,199 And I say for now, because you know, I want to have with 1443 01:49:12,319 --> 01:49:15,960 me. I want to get to a business model eventually. Llseppe does have 1444 01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:24,000 a passive income m and that we do make money. I'm not shy in 1445 01:49:24,239 --> 01:49:26,760 saying that. I'm not ashamed of that. I want it to make a 1446 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,520 lot of money because at the end of the day, I want to aboule 1447 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,399 to pay the officers. You know, I want to be paid too. 1448 01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,640 I want about to travel and I want to be able to say to a 1449 01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:40,880 bunch of officers, what we need you guys and check republic for the you 1450 01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:45,159 know, in two weeks time, and knowing that it's getting paid for. 1451 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,279 They don't, you know, or at least expenses are getting paid for that 1452 01:49:49,239 --> 01:49:51,840 we're not. We can't be ashamed of making money. I mean, it's 1453 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:57,039 a multi million pound industry. This this what we all pro fascinate by, 1454 01:49:57,399 --> 01:50:03,199 from books and films and conventions, franchises, merchandise, all sorts of things. 1455 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:08,479 So I'm not saying to say we need to make money, but we're 1456 01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,720 not going to make money from right now from cases, but that's not our 1457 01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:17,680 intention. We're probably making money out of YouTube videos and it eventually when the 1458 01:50:18,039 --> 01:50:24,640 you know, one day hopefully go get to get monetized and maybe books or 1459 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:30,640 whatever else. But you know, merchandise as well, because a Seppi store 1460 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:35,039 is where if you go to our website it's Sepi Hyphenagency dot com, there's 1461 01:50:35,039 --> 01:50:40,000 a Sepi store. There's merchandise on there of our T shirts and fun ones 1462 01:50:40,039 --> 01:50:43,439 as well, so you can come by those who wants. So it's it 1463 01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:48,199 links you through to Etsy so you can Payment's all done for exs, so 1464 01:50:48,239 --> 01:50:51,279 feel free go buy a T shirt or mug. I've got mudgs and mouse 1465 01:50:51,359 --> 01:50:59,279 mats as well. Actually all the sales of me so far. I've got 1466 01:50:59,319 --> 01:51:00,800 to say that this sounds like the sort of thing we could do a show 1467 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:05,560 on this, maybe a couple of times a year. So maybe maybe later 1468 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:10,279 in the year we'll do catch up on this, you know, we'll see 1469 01:51:10,279 --> 01:51:15,119 how Seppi's getting on. And it sounds like we could do this, you 1470 01:51:15,159 --> 01:51:16,920 know, catch up on what's been going on for the last six months or 1471 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:21,159 so. This one was mainly about what SEPI is and to talk about a 1472 01:51:21,159 --> 01:51:27,720 couple of the obviously hypothesis, but yeah, absolutely forward we could talk about 1473 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,560 specific cases, yeah, and the evidence and equality by them, and it 1474 01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:35,439 might be able to talk about a twenty twenty five convention that maybe on the 1475 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:41,399 colds if we could coax well, we've already got a name. It's called 1476 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:47,600 Unconventional Yeah, yeah, Conventional Convention, right, Okay, Yeah, I'm 1477 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,600 already working on sort of a logo for that already. And yeah, we 1478 01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:56,239 want to we want to do a convention because I think it's just a good 1479 01:51:56,520 --> 01:52:02,279 way of getting SEPPI officers together and to the public and let people come and 1480 01:52:02,319 --> 01:52:05,880 sell their stuff there as well, and as some great speakers. Yeah, 1481 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:10,560 I think good. You're trying to get some well known names as well. 1482 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:15,159 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And the people we want to get on there 1483 01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:18,880 is people that are passionate about bringing truth to the to the to the subject 1484 01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:27,439 now because there's too much misinformation and puppetry out there for my liking. But 1485 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,960 I don't want to dismiss it all. But the tic Tac video is that 1486 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:33,760 you're well aware of. There's been various views on that. That one it's 1487 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:38,399 genuine moum, it's not it was this. It was that. You know, 1488 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:42,239 it's just muddy in the waters. It's not helpful. And the recent 1489 01:52:42,279 --> 01:52:45,760 one, the jellyfish video, which I've analyzed already in d vincually resolve and 1490 01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,279 I'm not even convinced it's even real. The jellyfish doesn't move a muscle. 1491 01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:57,800 It's the same image passing through but no one seems to see it. And 1492 01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:00,720 you can go, oh, well, it's ince dimensional. You know no 1493 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:02,520 one saw it because of that. Yeah, great, but the camera caught 1494 01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:08,319 it at the end of the day quite well with facts, and this thing 1495 01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:14,000 doesn't move It's almost like someone took the footage of it, moved of this, 1496 01:53:14,199 --> 01:53:17,239 or just footage of moving, and then added this on, which is 1497 01:53:17,279 --> 01:53:20,000 easy to do, by the way, in the video editing software, very 1498 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,880 easy to do, and then went, look, this is just captured. 1499 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:29,319 And I'm not convinced, you know it's There are entities that had been caught 1500 01:53:29,319 --> 01:53:33,000 in infrared. I give you that. There's a great one I saw in 1501 01:53:33,039 --> 01:53:40,159 Australia who has hit the mainstream media out there. A woman had a grand 1502 01:53:40,199 --> 01:53:43,760 should in the cot. She had a baby monitor downstairs. I think she 1503 01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,720 heard something something bought estentially looked at the screen and she's got this horrendous image 1504 01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:53,960 of this demon like figure looking over the poor baby. The baby's totally on 1505 01:53:54,199 --> 01:53:57,520 where it's there, by the way, but this thing has even got small 1506 01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,119 holes on its head. It's that clear for me that's not a demon. 1507 01:54:00,319 --> 01:54:03,560 It's an ED. So we've got to take away the word demon because it's 1508 01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:08,800 just given power to these things. But that was an EDE. But what 1509 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,760 fascinates me in the most about that is that it was a normal infrared camera, 1510 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,840 a baby monitor and it caught it. That intrigues me to my core 1511 01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:27,359 because that means then somehow something exposed it into infrared spectrum. So we need 1512 01:54:27,399 --> 01:54:32,039 to find out how to do that. And I was on another interview earlier 1513 01:54:32,079 --> 01:54:36,640 in the week. He mentioned that the original infrared goggles that the military used 1514 01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:42,359 to use weren't green. They were red, so you used to see red. 1515 01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,199 There's a different spectrum. And in Vietnam, the soldiers kept opening fire 1516 01:54:46,279 --> 01:54:54,920 on things in bushes that kept seeing things, and they the militaries realized that 1517 01:54:54,960 --> 01:55:00,000 they were seeing things that weren't actually there, humanoid figures. They pulled those 1518 01:55:00,039 --> 01:55:02,920 goggles and they made the new ones, so the more familiar green ones that 1519 01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:09,000 you see now, and it filtered out whatever the red ones can see to 1520 01:55:09,079 --> 01:55:12,439 what the green can see. And I want to know where those goggles are. 1521 01:55:12,439 --> 01:55:17,119 Now. It's weird, yeah, because that caught something that those were 1522 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:24,920 that technology back then caught somethink exposed something. So I want to know if 1523 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:29,319 anyone knows any information on that, please bring please contact us. I want 1524 01:55:29,319 --> 01:55:30,840 to know where those goggles are. I want to know if someone's got an 1525 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:36,199 old pair of back garage or knows what's done with them, because I can 1526 01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:42,800 guarantee you now if that was the sixties. Then they've developed those goggles and 1527 01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,680 that visual technology to be even better. I can guarantee the government have got 1528 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,159 something now where they can see a whole lot of things that we can't see. 1529 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:57,279 And that's scary, and that is scary. Yeah, yeah, and 1530 01:55:57,319 --> 01:56:00,680 that's been with hell. That's got to be with hell from us because you 1531 01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,560 don't you don't go as a manufacturer or all these military goggles. Oh yeah, 1532 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,159 we'll take them all back. They all must be faulty, all of 1533 01:56:08,199 --> 01:56:12,000 them. No, you don't. You go, wow, what is that? 1534 01:56:12,199 --> 01:56:15,720 What we're what we've seen? And then once you start seeing him, 1535 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,960 you start interacting with him, start communicating with him, and the world gets 1536 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:24,760 worse. So so there must have been reports made out as well with people, 1537 01:56:25,159 --> 01:56:28,760 because normally if you're fire on them, so you might make reports out 1538 01:56:28,079 --> 01:56:32,880 at you. Yeah, but you know that that's not unusual. I mean, 1539 01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:40,039 I am shot a badger, a white badger. That's illegal, by 1540 01:56:40,119 --> 01:56:44,359 the way. Yeah, I know I didn't shoot it, but the bushes 1541 01:56:44,359 --> 01:56:45,600 are rustling a lot. I was on exercise, I must add, I 1542 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,520 wasn't. It wasn't on a theater of war, so it would have only 1543 01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:55,359 been shocked by a blank round going over. Yeah, it wouldn't. I 1544 01:56:55,359 --> 01:56:58,000 wouldn't have harmed it, but it scared the crap out of me at the 1545 01:56:58,039 --> 01:57:01,279 time, and I almost shot on it because I thought I'd been ambushed. 1546 01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:06,560 So if that happens to me in exercise on exercise, that happened in fear, 1547 01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:12,239 yeah, you know you're mougitary will start because guess what, they're not 1548 01:57:12,279 --> 01:57:16,600 blank ammunition in your magazine. They're real and they hurt. It's not it's 1549 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:21,239 not call of duty out there. They do buy it, so yeah, 1550 01:57:21,359 --> 01:57:26,520 so yeah, it'd be fascinating if anyone doesn't know about those red goggles and 1551 01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:30,119 let us know, be intrigued. Yeah, well, by the time we 1552 01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:32,239 do another show, maybe you'll get so into report. You never know, 1553 01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:38,359 absolutely, but it's been a great pleasure. Revenue on daugh been fascinating. 1554 01:57:39,159 --> 01:57:43,439 I shall continue my little bit of training obviously. Have you seeing you in 1555 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,680 a few days to complete that, Yes, you will be. I'm off 1556 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,680 to I'm off to America when your show goes out. Just after the show 1557 01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:54,119 goes out, so after I'll see you on Sunday where it is. We'll 1558 01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:58,479 see you again after that at some meeting or other. But yeah, we 1559 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,199 will do it again. They'll set up on a date and we'll carry on 1560 01:58:02,319 --> 01:58:10,119 because I'm sure some more stuff. Yeah, and obviously they I could you 1561 01:58:10,119 --> 01:58:12,800 know, I'd like to discuss the EDS at another day, and yeah, 1562 01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,479 go go. There's articles on our website that explains about tcs N e d 1563 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:19,000 s. Go ahead and give them a reads and give me feedback. I 1564 01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:23,119 don't mind any feedback, good or bad, because at the end of the 1565 01:58:23,199 --> 01:58:26,079 days there's going to be helpful stuff and all of it. Yeah, do 1566 01:58:26,079 --> 01:58:29,079 you want to read out those websites get anything that wants to the case you 1567 01:58:29,159 --> 01:58:33,199 missed it, yep. So the main website is SEPI hyphen Agency, so 1568 01:58:33,399 --> 01:58:39,880 s e p I hyphen Agency dot com. You can go to a YouTube 1569 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:45,079 channel at SEPY Agency. We're on x as well Twitter the Sepy Agency and 1570 01:58:45,159 --> 01:58:48,800 on Instagram also known as Sepy Agency, so there's a theme there. It's 1571 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:53,920 all sep Agency, so we're all on those platforms. And also we have 1572 01:58:54,119 --> 01:58:57,520 a channel on Rumble as well, right Rumble as well as I say, 1573 01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,359 I'll put the links as all the links are ken of Facebook on the apparelm 1574 01:59:00,399 --> 01:59:03,319 of the mentions page. And so if you want to go along and have 1575 01:59:03,319 --> 01:59:06,640 a look at that, but so we'll leave it there, Dave. It's 1576 01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:11,520 been great talking to you two hours. So it's gone. It's gone quick. 1577 01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:16,119 It's gone quick. To go on further more, but no, no, 1578 01:59:16,319 --> 01:59:18,359 no, I know we could, we could carry on, but we 1579 01:59:18,359 --> 01:59:21,760 will do that next time. But until then, I'll take I'll see you 1580 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:26,039 a few days anyway, Dave. So take care of yourself and goody to 1581 01:59:26,119 --> 01:59:30,199 you, and thanks for coming on very much. Well, take care, 1582 01:59:30,399 --> 01:59:33,439 cheers boboy, Thank you Dave. And as you know, we've got a 1583 01:59:33,439 --> 01:59:36,520 lot more to talk about, so we will do it again in a few 1584 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:40,279 months. Okay, Now, as I said, I'm shooting off to the 1585 01:59:40,279 --> 01:59:43,560 States for a couple of weeks. But next week I've got another show for 1586 01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,560 you, and that will be with Nancy Thames. So that's a regular scheduled 1587 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:49,960 show. And as it happens, Nancy lives in two Below, Mississippi. 1588 01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:55,600 Now I'm hoping to be in too Below, Mississippi around about the same time 1589 01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:58,520 as that show goes out, so if all goes well, and may well 1590 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,880 be meeting Nancy Thames while I'm over there. But as always, if you 1591 02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:05,159 like to get in touch with me, my email address is David Young too, 1592 02:00:05,239 --> 02:00:10,399 q in at your hoo dot co dot UK. That's David Young too, 1593 02:00:10,439 --> 02:00:14,000 q in at your hoo dot co dot UK. So don't forget the 1594 02:00:14,079 --> 02:00:17,159 next show Who's while I'm in the States, and that is May twenty seventh, 1595 02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:23,520 Monday, that's Nancy Thames. So apart from that next week's show, 1596 02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,680 the next time you'll hear from me is when I come back. So take 1597 02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:29,359 care of yourselves, every body, and I will speak to you next time. 1598 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,439 Bye bye. I took it for granted, you're target for granted. 1599 02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:36,119 In science, nothing is taken for granted. What are we going to do, 1600 02:00:36,439 --> 02:00:42,319 my dear fellow, is your po Paranormal Dimensions is as great and powerful 1601 02:00:42,359 --> 02:00:46,680 as our celestial starves up. And although it's expending thousands of pounds of energy 1602 02:00:46,760 --> 02:01:50,439 every minute of the day, have no here. There's plenty left. Paranormal 1603 02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:56,399 Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.