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What's going on? Clippers fans,
Welcome to yet another Clips and Dip live

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edition. This is the three episode. I don't know what we're gonna let

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people filter in here. If you're
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at Clippers pod on Twitter, at
Clippers podcast on YouTube, and I mean,

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the first good news of the Clippers
free agency, right Adham, is

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that at James Harden's coming back on
a two year, seventy million dollar contract.

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It's a player option on the second
year. I feel if PG walks,

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the Clippers can get under the first
Apron with this signing James Harden.

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I have no idea why he did
this, if I'm being totally, but

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I'm very happy he did. Shout
out James Harden, Shout out the Clippers.

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This is a great piece of business. I don't know, Adam,

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your thoughts. If you're chatting,
let us know your thoughts too. The

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only thing I could think is he
really values being at home and being a

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Clipper and appreciates them going out and
getting him away from Philadelphia last season.

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Because this is definitely team friendly,
This is definitely cat friendly people. This

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is very unexpected. We were talking
about James Harden on a three for one

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twenty three for one hundred, maybe
three for one fifty if things go crazy.

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But this deal with the new cap
stuff, and there are people saying,

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you know, they didn't really want
it or whatever, but two years

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under the first apron possibilities, this
is as good as the Clippers were gonna

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get. How much worse would you
feel if you signed for three for one

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twenty right, that would feel a
lot worse now that we've seen two for

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this. I don't know now that
we've seen this, but originally I was

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expecting that I would have been fine
with it. Now you get two years

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seventy with a player option on the
back end, which means so James Harden

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age wise, he's at thirty four. He's gonna turn thirty five when the

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season starts because his birthday is August
twenty six, so he'll be thirty five

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throughout the entire season. Is he
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he's gonna opt out and get one
more three year contract or something like

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that. I'm fine with that too. It's it's similar to a Blake Snell

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contract with the Giants, which just
happened this past year. It's like it's

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a prove it type contract, the
one and one to where you can then

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go out if you have a huge
year and try to get paid even more.

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If he has a huge year,
I don't think anybody's complaining about that

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as a Clipper fan. And if
I was gonna say, if he has

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a huge year, that means that
the starting point guard who logged more minutes

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than any of our other starting point
guards who are at his level, played

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really well. This makes me want
to put on my Clippers hat. Hold

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on, no, this feels good. This is I don't know if you're

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in the chat, yeah, team
for thank you, Anthony Lutie, team

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friendly deal twenty five mil under the
first apron. If Paul George leaves like

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this, this is also the reality
of the new cap. This is what's

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weird about the new cap is acs
cap right here, Clippers cap is as

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fans we need to and it's an
adjustment. It's been adjustment for me,

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it's been adjustment for everyone covering the
team. The benefits of the cap flexibility

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are even more so than what flexibility
on the old cap was because of how

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hard this really shitty cap scenario is. So like Anthony Lucie's talking about it

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like this plays a part and the
Clippers not blinking with PG threatening to go

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right, Like if everybody thinks that
this is some shock to the Clippers front

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office that Paul George was not going
to opt in and be a part of

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a side in trade and actually end
up at this point where he became a

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free agent. I'm telling you they've
had a plan in place. They knew

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all the chess pieces that were on
the table. They were very aware this

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could happen, right, and they're
not going to be taken by surprise and

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not have a backup plan. Or
maybe they had to read on this that

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it was likely going to happen and
this is their number one plan. Because

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making this deal with James Harden before
we even know what's happening with Paul George,

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that might speak to that. Yeah, this, uh, I feel

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good about this. This is the
most optimistic I've felt about the Clippers offseason

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specifically. I mean, the Cam
Christie pick is cool if you're a freak

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who wants to watch forty six pick
draft guys develop, But like this is

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I don't again. I don't know
why James Harden did this freak, but

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big thank you to James Harden.
Hey, I mean, if Paul George

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walks, that's a pain in the
ass. But the Clippers would be under

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the first apron, possibly with a
bunch more actual flexibility. It's doable.

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It's not crazy, not to mention
aside from the cap issues and the flexibility

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this frees up for them and the
real possibility and likely possibility that they can

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get under the first apron, which
means you get a thirteen million dollar non

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taxpayer mid level exception as opposed to
the taxpayer mid level exception which is only

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five million dollars, which is what
they've been having over the years to play

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with, which means all those restrictions
of not being able to trade guys in

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aggregate, worrying about the twenty thirty
two pick being frozen and being at number

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thirty, all that stuff's out the
window, and you have a lot more

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options than possibilities for your future now, even a future where they still don't

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have a first round pick till twenty
thirty. But aside from all that,

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we don't got to bring that up. I want to bring up how the

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Lakers and maybe James Harden could have
made a run of Lakers and Lebron James

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couldn't make a run at James Harden, they could have. Yeah that it

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seemed like they were wanted to target
him with like an exception, which is

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not thirty five million dollars a year. Chunk Sampson has asked multiple times what

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are the possibilities Now? The possibilities
are, we're under that first apron,

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we get the big exception, like
Adam just talked about. You see what

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Royce O'Neil just went for. Things
like that, You can get guys in

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that category who are very helpful off
the bench and can really solidify a lineup.

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So we just get more actual flexibility. I can't believe if you would

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have told me twenty four hours ago, if you would have told me six

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hours ago that the Clippers were gonna
probably be under the first apron. Yes,

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losing Paul George for nothing is not
ideal, but there are some positives

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with this new apron stuff. I
would have been a static. I would

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have said we lost Paul George,
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Now, somehow they can be.
Yeah, they can be. Excuse

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me, yes, it's hard to
be not at least whelmed with what the

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Clippers have done so far, and
take into account this is Chuck saying this,

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not someone who may be compromised like
myself being this Charles Mockler. Meanwhile,

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I know or my bread is buttered, and I still try to be

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it is possible the case. Uh
I can I smoke weed them? I

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don't know if I can. California, you do whatever you want. I

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don't know if that's the take YouTube. I feel great, I'm I don't

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know. This is a move.
It's it's funny too, and I don't

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want to get too deep in the
weeds on this, but it's nice to

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see a superstar in LA maybe take
a little less money to help the team

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win. Kauh I already did it. Sure, Let's not forget what Kawhi

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Leonard said after his deal went through
the first game. Afterwards post game,

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they asked him about it, and
he said, at that time, in

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January, it was something to the
effect of, well, yeah, pretty

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much everybody's coming back, so we
all assumed at that time the big three

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were going to return. That means
James Harden to RUSS fans, that means

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Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. I'm
never gonna fault somebody though. If Paul

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George ends up signing for the max
with the Philadelphia seventy six ers, for

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getting paid and getting the four year
deal, and he athlete can get as

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much should get as much as you
know you're worth what someone will pay you.

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That's the old lie. And if
that's what he's going for, and

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it's not like he's leaving one situation
where he could win a ring for another

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situation where it's a rebuilding process or
anything like that. If he leaves to

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go to Philly, they also have
a chance to win a ring there,

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So he's not sacrificing the competitive spirit
part of it or anything like that.

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He can have his cake and eat
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Yeah, And I mean, I
mean, I'm not going to fault him

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for that. I did tell I
was I had a baseball game earlier that

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I played in and I have friends
on that team who are big Phillies fans

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or seventy six Ers fans, and
they said, what's the big deal with

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giving Paul George the Max contract,
and I said, talk to me in

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eight months and we'll see how you
feel about Paul George with the Max contract.

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Paul George himself getting the Max contract. Go for it. No one,

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no one watching, listening talking,
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of principle. I just don't no
disrespect that. I don't know. I

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want to speak for you, but
I'm about taking pay cuts if someone's offering

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me money, if the hometown discount
or him giving them a hometown discount isn't

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enough, because you're talking about the
difference of like forty five fifty million dollars.

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I get it. That's a huge
number. That's a huge difference.

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And I certainly get from the Clippers
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is only on a two year deal. He's only on a two year deal.

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So the idea of lining up all
three on three years on three year

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contracts, that's already out the window. This is a new development what we

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just saw with the one on one
with James Harden. Yeah, it's a

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new and it's also this is I
think this is a kind of contract we

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can expect to see with the new
Apron as we can see guys taking these

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deals where it's maybe less to help
the two right, like because Lebron might

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take way less money or a max
So like we're in this new weird Oh

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uh, this very fair question,
Mike Dang. If you're new to the

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pod, it's usually Adam, myself
and Will Updike. Will is unavoidably detained

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because we are We do sometimes do
things that are not this podcast. He

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might pop in, he might not. We'll figure it out. But right

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now we're celebrating James Harden. I'm
choosing to celebrate this. This is a

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level of cap optimism that none of
us had before twenty minutes ago or whatever

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the hell it was, And it
makes losing Paul George, probably losing Paul

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George for nothing, an easier pill
to swallow. Can you put up the

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Eric comment? The jazz just waived
Omar, you're at seven now? Why

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would the jypnahib easy? Wendy Eric
shout out? Lol? Whf Eric go

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follow him on Twitter and Instagram right
now, wonderful art. I love Eric.

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This is not true. If his
decisions were always basketball first, he

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wouldn't have had a problem with Philly
doing him dirty like that. Or just

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he would have taken whatever that contract
was from them. He clearly likes being

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a Clipper, He clearly likes being
in LA. The money has mattered to

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him. This is a guy who
turned down one hundred and sixty million before

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with the Brooklyn Nets because he thought
he could get more. So money has

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been a factor until this point.
Apparently this is the turning point for James

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Harden, truly the Clippers. I
give him all the credit in the world

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for making this. Yes, he
had a problem with being lied to in

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Philly, but again I just went
back even further than that. He turned

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down one sixty with the brooklyn Nets
to try to get more money. Like,

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money has mattered to him, It
very much has until now. Until

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now, so some type of culture, some type of uh maybe he's really

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into the into it dome. He's
excited for that, but they're selling him

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on something more than just the dollar
signs here, absolutely, and some people

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I just put a great primer on
the on the signing from Robert Flamm of

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two and three hoops in there,
you could maybe point that like, oh,

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maybe it's an overpay or whatever.
At thirty five million a year.

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Jamalda Rosen's making. You want to
talk about an overpay, that's an overpay

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for what I love og Anobe.
He just got two hundred million for what

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Harden brings to this team in terms
of durability, total minutes, all that

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stuff that the Clippers have desperately needed. On this deal, It's like,

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it's it's hard to be mad at
it, even if you hate James Harden.

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He didn't hamstring. He helped the
Clippers cap situation, which again surprising,

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I'll take it. It's hard to
be really upset at this steal.

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All things consider, it does open
up more sign and trade possibilities for the

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Clippers. I don't know who those
guys are there signing and trading. Who's

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a Clipper free agent that they're gonna
do? Iscide you're saying, you're saying

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coming from the other side, because
if you could absorb a sign and trade

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from another team, if you're under
the first apron, because you can only

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do that as the team receiving the
player. Uh, if you're under the

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first apron, because it will hard
cap you. Right, So it's a

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possibility. I still think it's it's
difficult to pull off a sign in trade

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Today's NBA. We talked about it
recently, but we believe Kevin Durant might

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have been the last one. So
twenty nineteen, it's just become, you

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know, a fossilized maneuver, and
so far its petrified. Would another thing

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that people need to trade exceptions?
Trade exceptions mean nothing. They're not used

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like ninety five percent of the time. So don't let anyone try and talk

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you into a trade exception being the
nice thing for the Clippers if there's a

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PG sign in trade thing. Now
I'm wondering we have we have point guard

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one locked up, we have James
Harden locked up. Now are we in

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the same boat of who is point
guard two? Because because too mayras arly

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wonderful Clippers reporter reported that Russ was
not going to be on the team.

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Russ opted in that what to May
reported can still very much happen. But

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now are we going to be stuck? Excuse me? Are we going to

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have russ is live as the backup
one? Because it doesn't work. We

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know it doesn't work. It's not
optimal for a team that desperately needs an

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injection of youth. I love Russell
Westbrook and you can argue that he might

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be the most athletic player on the
team. He's even as he's going to

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be thirty six. But guys,
he's bottom five in efficiency at the rim

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and bottom five at efficiency from the
outside. He's not good in the mid

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range. You could call him a
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don't know what it is with his
finishing ability at the rim and why it

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changed so much, because his hands
are pretty mangled if you see them in

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person, like a lot of the
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Jordan's hands, who has a finger
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I don't know what it is.
But his touch at the rim when he's

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going a million miles per hour,
it was never great, But yeah,

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it's it's hatchet, not scalpel.
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a high level at the rim.
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get downhill and get to the rim, if you're not finishing and smoking layups

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like that, guess what they turn
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That's what it has been over the
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The amount of times that I counted
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and transition after Russell Westbrook is still
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at the rim and can't get back
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it's a disadvantage for the Clippers.
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over again. I love Russ,
you know I'll be supporting him if he

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is on the team, But if
you're talking about optimizing this squad, one

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of the big themes that we have
mentioned on this podcast is there needs to

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be a youth movement and how does
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to veterans who are past their prime. When you actually have a guy that

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could be the backup point guard that
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going into last season in Bones Highland, When is that guy going to get

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a true shot before he ends up
leaving for nothing or you get a second

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round pick for him. Do you
not want to find out about the untapped

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potential of the guy who just scored
forty in a game where almost did last

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year, who has had some really
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of the situation, but he has
shown enough to me where the talent is

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tantalizing enough. Those Lou Williams comparisons
aren't meaningless. If the Clippers decide because

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CP three waived, which is kind
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thirty mils a lot. But if
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give Bones the backup, I will
be genuinely furious isn't the right word,

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but very annoyed at the Clippers because
CP three has one year of maybe being

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good and he was not good last
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He was alright when he was somewhat
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Honestly, I didn't think it was
bad. Interesting Russ played twenty three

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minutes a game. Can CP three
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That's crazy? Well, if it
was, we know who Bones is.

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Enough with this bone stuff, all
right, Gregory Elwood, tell me who

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Bones is. You got the scouting
report. Tell me he's not a top

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tier player. We're not asking him
to be a top tier player. We're

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asking him to get you fifteen to
five a night coming off the bank.

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H He very well maybe capable of
that. He was averaging sixteen points per

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game the first four games of last
season in efficient sixteen points per game before

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the James Harden rumors and before he
was replaced. Don't tell me we know

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who Bones is at this point.
I'm sorry, we don't. He hasn't

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nearly enough time. He is not
effective. Really, a guy who has

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hit three pointers on high volume that
can stretch the floor is not effective.

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Where are we are just talking?
He just happened. Sorry, we are

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not here for the bs, are
we not? Where are we out on

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the Klay Thompson thing? Because I
don't know if the Clippers can offer as

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much as the MAVs or the Lakers, because right now the Clippers do not

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have an exception I believe to offer
Klay Thompson. Denver didn't want him because

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he and Jamal Murray do not work
on the court. Two small guys like

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that. Do you guys understand that
I'm still arguing with people about Bones.

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It's like they have no frame of
reference here. Really, let it go,

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all right, Klay Thompson. To
get him, I think you'd have

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to get under the first apron to
offer that full mid level exception right just

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to get in the ballpark. I
believe so. Yeah, Because then you're

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saying thirteen million. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know if Clay's

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coming here. I just it just
doesn't This isn't scuttle, But you know

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what I'm saying, I don't think
we have the money. I don't think

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we have anything for him to you
know what I mean. I would tend

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to think he's going to be a
Laker based upon Michael Thompson, his dad,

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and there have been rumors out there
really for a damn decade that if

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he ever leaves Golden State, he'll
end up being a Laker. Now,

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I would say this if it wasn't
for and I'm still kind of reeling from

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this. It's hard to wrap my
head around the unfortunate passing of Jerry West.

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That's the guy who held onto him
at Golden State and made sure he

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stayed there and he wasn't traded for
Love. He was the one who was

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rumored to put his foot down that
Clay's the perfect match next to Steph Curry.

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Obviously he was right and prophetic in
that back in twenty fourteen. Who

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was talking about this twenty fifteen,
when when Kevin Love was a monster putting

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up Moses Malone type numbers on the
Timberwolves. It was Jerry West who knew

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that the best guy to play next
to Steph Curry was not pairing him with

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a big. It was evolving and
playing smaller and playing out on the perimeter

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and floor spacing. And that's Klay
Thompson, who I think is the best

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spot up shooter ever. Steph's the
best overall shooter ever because he does it

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off the bounce. More, that's
Jerry West in a nutshell, just seeing

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being ahead of everyone. Yeah,
so Clay not coming to the Clippers,

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it doesn't seem like I don't think
it's off the table completely. Yeah,

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I really won't. But they have
first things for you'd have to get it

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to the first apron, right.
So also, we are twenty nine minutes

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into the free agency. There was
the Chris Haynes tweet if anybody missed it,

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that what was it? The Sixers? He tweeted it at MMM.

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He tweeted that at I'm losing my
damn mind. Where the hell is it?

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Oh? Yeah? Two hours ago, Chris Haynes tweeted Leach Report sources

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there's growing optimism of Philadelphia seventy six
ers will land Paul George and free agency

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those two hours ago. There's been
some scuttle buck coming in a lot of

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people chatted this at us patom is
not returning to the Sixers, Yeah,

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bring the tune back on a minimum? Could that sway Paul George one way

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or the other since he was just
talking about losing Nicholas patubad Rogo. Paul

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George definitely doesn't have a plan B, so I could totally see that happening.

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Am I wrong? Think? Do
you think it's over at this point?

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Or what percentage chance to see him
returning to the Clippers right now?

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Oh? Man, I'm fifteen maybe
like nothing. If it's if it's the

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matter of an extra year which the
Clippers don't want to give them and the

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Sixers want to give it that it's
just I don't know, fifteen maybe less.

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I'll go a little bit above that. I'll say like twenty one and

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three. Yeah, because because of
what like Paul George, I do think

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he's someone that values being home in
Palmdale a lot. I do think that's

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very meaningful to him. I do
think being next to his parents, having

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them easily at every game, it's
what you can always say, Well,

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they could just flow them all over
the place. Yeah, they're not going

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to want to do that and just
be away from home all the time,

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traveling with their son. It's one
thing to go to games and be able

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to go home right afterwards. It's
not the same. I think, you

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know, family matters, especially at
this point. Not to bring up the

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Drake Kendrick. We all know what
side we're on. We're on the winning

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side. We're the LA team.
We're on Kendrick's side. Oh yeah,

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I said. Carlo Amitt has asked
me this on the air when the beef

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was starting to percolate early on.
I'm like, oh, I got k

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dot. He's a twenty something,
so that makes sense. Well, I'm

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interested in that's that storyline. Rock
brought up a good point. What's the

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point of being under the apron and
still reaching for older one year retirement guys?

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This is that's a great point for
guys like Bones and things like that.

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They need chances. The young guys
need chances. Yes, if we

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have thirteen million to give to a
four who can be great? Depth do

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that? I mean old backup points. I'm tired of that. Well,

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if you're saying CP three you don't
like that, I don't put Klay Thompson

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in that category. No, I
yeah, I don't think Rock does either,

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but I would, I mean Clay
would, Clay would be helpful.

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I do think Clay has enough left
because, first of all, he gives

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effort defensively always. He's not who
he was coming off the a c on

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in the Achilles tear. He's taking
the biggest dip in his play on that

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end, but shooting is the last
thing to go, and he is still

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a good fit, especially on offense
on that end to help stretch the floor.

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And I think part of his numbers
at times being really up and down

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the past year were the presser of
the contract and the looming decision when he

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is a legacy guy up north with
the Golden State Warriors, I think that

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was weighing heavily on him. He's
an emotional guy. I love his personality.

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I have loved Clay Thompson forever,
back when he got caught smoking weed

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and Washington, Washington State people made
such a big deal about that, which

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sounds ever. Have you ever been
to Pullman? Uh? No, just

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Oregon Eugene, which also does Pullman
sucks. Pullman is a horrible city.

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So smoking weed there makes total sense. Someone was asking us on Twitter if

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this means the Clippers can sign Hartenstein
and if they give them an except if

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they give them thirteen and a half
million dollar exception, they could. I

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don't think that's gonna be enough.
I also don't, but I mean,

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that's that's what they got. That
would be awesome. That would be fun

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to write that wrong. That would
be amazing. But wasn't he just making

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ten million something last year? Yeah? With the Knicks the Thunder, Yeah,

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Thunder is the team. I think
that's going to get him. It's

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the perfect fit and it makes them
very very very difficult to beat because then

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ship doesn't have to worry about banging
with that bird chest the d s.

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Oh yeah, it sounds like,
okay, sees in Oregon to meet with

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Isaiah Hartenstein. Why is Isaiah Hartenstein
in Oregon? Uh? Yeah, it

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sounds like that's cooked. That's yeah, heart and Sign's not coming back.

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I've thought that the entire time they're
gonna end up with him, and it's

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that's really a move. God that
sucks for us. With with Alex Caruso

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now who they didn't have to give
up a first flour because Chicago, for

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whatever reason, didn't ask or play
enough hardball. Can I ask you this

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because I put it in the text
earlier today. Yeah, and then we

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should answer this question from Carlos because
this is a fair question that a lot

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of people have. Okay, start
with this then because okay, mine's more

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out there. Carlos. Carlos Casino's
asking, as a guy who doesn't know

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much about contract talk, do we
gain money with Paul George walking or is

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it not till the next year that
we get more money to sign someone.

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So if Paul George walks, he
opted out of that forty eight million dollars,

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we don't have that forty eight mil. We can't just use that money

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to pool and sign somebody for forty
eight mil. It helps us with cap

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relief and getting under the second apron, which getting under the separate a brind

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gives you some exceptions. You canate
people in trade, so you can trade

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two seven and a half million dollar
guys for one fifteen million dollar guy,

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and your draft picks don't get frozen
to be last no matter what happens.

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So, yeah, fair question.
It's very confusing. This salary cap is

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asinine. It makes no sense that
the owners agreed to it. Adam your

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question, and we know Sizda one, it would be a long shot to

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get out. I say a hard
and steinback. Yeah, likely that could

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happen. It would just be sweet
if it did exactly Yeah, John of

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Hey dazed and confused. Yeah,
be a lot cooler if it did.

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But that's whereat that that could happen. So I brought this up a little

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bit earlier because there was a rumor
out there in our little group chat that

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Chicago is having such a hard time
or so adamant about getting off the contract

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with Zach Levine, which still has
three more years. The last year is

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a player option for forty eight million
dollars. It goes forty five, forty

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six, and then I think forty
eight. It's not good that they're all

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offering a first round pick with Zach
Levine to try to get off of that

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contract. What do we trade them? I think it starts around PJ.

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Tucker because that's Hey, you're preaching
to the choir. So yeah, I'm

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trying. I'm trying to sell you
on this move. I figure i'd start

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there. So that's eleven million.
Then I assume you'd have to include Russ.

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That's five minutes. It feels like
you're pander. This feels like a

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panduring tray. I would love this
if if what's it's Russ, it's PJ.

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It's Norm for money Norm maybe to
get his twenty million in there.

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Now we're thirty five million dollars,
thirty six million dollars, he's at forty

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five. Is that within seventy five
percent or whatever it needs to be.

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It's closet a little extra if you
get under I'm saying, yeah, so

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you add a mire, Maybe you
add a mere coffee. I'm not saying

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Chicago is dysfunctional and poorly run funny, but I am saying they did not

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get a first from the OKC thunder
for Alex Caruso, who has seventeen first

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round picks, and they still managed
to not get a first somehow and just

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did it straight up for Josh Giddy. You may be able to take advantage

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of that situation. I know the
injury history with Levine. I know it.

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I know how bad it's been.
I also have been a big fan

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of his, going back to UCLA
where he shot thirty eight percent from three

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coming out of college and a lot
of people didn't know that in his one

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year there, and they just limited
him to being a dunker because he was

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in dunk contests early on. Well
guess what now, he's a great shooter.

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Now he's proven that and he's had
to be a number one option at

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times Zach Levine as a third option
if healthy. I know it's a big

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if, as it always is with
the Clipper, But do we get the

405
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,079
pick right? Like the pick you
can get a first round pick out of

406
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,119
it too, which could end up
being a lottery pick because it's coming from

407
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Chicago. That is not the worst
thing the trade. Let me get on

408
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:15,039
fans bow right now, because I
think the shot is pure shot. Also,

409
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,880
he's also from the Pacific Northwest,
which you know real Hoopers also played

410
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160
ball at u c L a real
Hoopers up in the Pacific Northwest if you

411
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:29,559
know ball. Sorry, I'm fucking
around on fans bow right now. So

412
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680
you said, I guess we could
screen show this if we wanted to,

413
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,240
and we have the technology. We
have the power now. Also, for

414
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,160
those of you who've been on Twitter, and if you think that we've been

415
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,359
on Edge, it's just because people
ask us to go live. Stop asking

416
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,359
us to do that. We'll go
live when we go live. I don't

417
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,759
know I was to say it.
Okay, so what do we got?

418
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:55,640
We got fired up? We got
so, we got Zach Lavine, and

419
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:04,599
you said PJ. Tucker has the
expiring Russ Westbrook as whatever, Norman Powell.

420
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,079
I do this a lot on the
Bleacher Report things. Let's see.

421
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,400
I don't think this gets us well, okay, I don't think the Bulls

422
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:16,559
would do this, but it's within
sparently. I don't think they would do

423
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,119
this, but if they're having this
much trouble, they get an expiring from

424
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,759
PJ who they can stretch and wave. Russell Westbrook can be the backup to

425
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:27,799
Josh Giddy, which sounds like a
point guard rotation that makes me want to

426
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,119
jump into traffic. And then you
get Norm Powell who can who is a

427
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,920
good scoring off the bench basketball player. I don't know this would this would

428
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720
be chaos, but I'd be down
for us. It is, of course

429
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,039
risky with Zach Levine because of his
injury history and because of the Clippers and

430
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:47,480
what they're already dealing with when it
comes to guys staying healthy. We know

431
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,119
that guys. I've watched him to
this to his point, To Guy Fieri's

432
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:59,319
point here, I have watched a
ton of zach Lavine and there have been

433
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,119
times was like, why are you
calling him guy? Where he is a

434
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,000
much better defender when he wants to
be. Then he typically shows with the

435
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,559
analytics shows which are always tough to
measure guys defensively based off the analytics because

436
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:15,240
it's such a team defense thing.
Oh, something just happened. Jake Fisher

437
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:22,440
just reported. With Russell Westbrook having
opted into his four million dollars for this

438
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:24,680
twenty four to twenty five season,
the Clippers are now working to find a

439
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,039
trade for Westbrook. League of Courses, tell yeah, who sports? Well,

440
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:30,359
are they watching him live right now? Because we just put one up

441
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:37,319
there we have a great one.
Yeah, and that didn't include the first

442
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,240
round pick. I just wonder how
desperate do you have to be to offer

443
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:47,119
a first round pick? Will you
take anything, including tech cap relief in

444
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,640
the form of sixteen million dollars based
upon Westbrook and PJ. Tucker coming off

445
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,559
the books after this year, and
then you have one more year of Norman

446
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,759
Powell, who would be an asset
for them to trade on an expiring deal

447
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:07,400
for eighteen million dollars. Who is
and should have been top three and six

448
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Man of the Year voting and one
of the most efficient guys off the bench

449
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,599
in the NBA. It's not nothing
getting Norman Powell in there. No,

450
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,199
he's a very he's he doesn't he
obviously doesn't. He does what lou Will

451
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,079
does minus to Pike and Rol,
which is a very big thing that lou

452
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,280
Will did. Obviously, I'm not. I don't want to discredit Fair is

453
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,400
a much more efficient outside shooter than
lou Will was. Yes, he can

454
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,280
create for himself better, but spot
up norm is absolutely deadly. People like

455
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,320
your hat? Say you like my
hat? Uh? Really? Hood?

456
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,199
I don't know how to pronounce this
said, the starting power forward position needs

457
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:53,800
to be addressed very fair. Who
is the starting four? Like, genuinely,

458
00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:00,000
I don't who is the starting four
dollars? You haven't brought up not

459
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:05,960
that he is the replacement or the
starting four. But we haven't talked about

460
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,519
Demarta Rosen yet. I don't want
to fit, dude. The fit with

461
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:15,320
him and Kawhi is brilliant. I
get that. I just wouldn't. I

462
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,679
wouldn't hate it if you stagger him
a lot with the second unit and play

463
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,920
more around him and feature him more
there. That's not bad, as in,

464
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:28,800
he's the guy who comes out in
the first four or five minutes in

465
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:35,000
the first quarter and then plays heavy
minutes with the second unit. He is

466
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:40,239
taking more threes as of late.
I'm not saying he's the starting power forward.

467
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,360
Aside from this starting power forward question, as we stall here, I

468
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:52,559
understand Damar because we're talking Chicago as
well. It if you could get him

469
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:59,360
for thirteen million and it's a short
contract, I'm not I'm probably not kicking

470
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,800
it out of bed. I'm probably
not turning it down. The classic Musburger

471
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:08,960
that a Busburger line. There aren't
a ton of options right for guys at

472
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,199
that salary that you would want.
You talked about this yesterday. It's not

473
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,599
a robust market. It isn't so
beggars can't be choosers either. I want

474
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,559
to point out I want to describe
this as nasty that just came out,

475
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:30,119
and I think this is really annoying, and I'm I kind of want to

476
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,079
talk about it right now. It
just happened. It's from a Brian Windhorse

477
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:38,000
thing. Apparently when they signed Kawhi
Leonard to that deal. They never told

478
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:45,760
Paul George about it. This feels
like spin from Paul George's camp to be

479
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,480
like, see this is why I'm
leaving. Well, you know what the

480
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:53,000
Clippers did do for Paul George,
sign all of his friends, sign every

481
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:57,760
point guard that he publicly asked for. Like, just at this point,

482
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,519
just go go to Philly. We're
sorry we didn't tell you that Kawhi Leonard

483
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:04,960
signed a deal. You had to
read about it in the paper the next

484
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:10,000
day. Just go, man,
go get your extra year, get get

485
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,280
away. Am I wrong? Sorry? This is like this just feels so

486
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,199
spinny and so gross and again like
someone who doesn't have a plan. B.

487
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,480
Sorry I went a little hard right
there. But this I don't sign

488
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:29,119
off on all that, but I
will say this, the spinny part,

489
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,159
I could see that based upon what
La Murray said recently of how close Kawhi

490
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,679
Leonard and Paul George are, I
find it somewhat hard to believe that he

491
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:45,000
had no idea whatsoever when he and
Kawhi Leonard are boys to the level they

492
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:51,920
are hard to believe, right,
Like, but I'm not going to say

493
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
just go to Pilly at this point, if he wants to come back on

494
00:37:55,079 --> 00:38:00,840
a team friendly three year deal,
I think it would still be nice to

495
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,079
have Paul George. Hey, Paul
George coming back on three for one fifty.

496
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,119
It would be absolutely hilarious and it
would just again go to show that

497
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:15,840
he was one of the most front
of the face nothing out not step two

498
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:23,119
superstars of all time. It would
be so the only word is hilarious.

499
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:28,440
If Paul George comes back on a
team friendly deal, can we talk about

500
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,559
a lot. What's the best restaurant
in Philadelphia that he's getting wined and dined

501
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:37,159
at? Just stay here? I
was just in Philadelphia. I tried all

502
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,880
the cheese steaks. There's a good
place called punk Burger, very underrated,

503
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,280
but I had a or the two
big cheese steaks that I had them both

504
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,920
the same night as I arrived in
Philadelphia. When I was there with photo

505
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,480
offs of the concert with Camber Obscura, I order both of them off of

506
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,840
door dash try to both pass was
better and both were still mid It was

507
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,440
a mid off. Yeah, the
brand is messed over here in Burbank is

508
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,840
better than what I had there.
Have you been to Booze in silver Lake.

509
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Everyone I know from Philadelphia who lives
in LA says booze Philly cheese steak,

510
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,400
and silver Lake is the one to
go. You get the whiz,

511
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,760
you maybe get a mushroom steak or
something. I actually had it yesterday.

512
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:24,280
Should we go there? Paul George
goes to Philadelphia and like pour one out

513
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,159
form or something like that. Oh
hold on, ye I'm super down.

514
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Chums just tweeted out, Uh,
the Clippers are actively trying to move Russell

515
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:38,800
Westbrook. Yeah, great, they
are watching. They're watching, guys,

516
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,960
they're here with us right now.
Is in the room with us? Yeah,

517
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Lawrence Frank, Yeah, Lawrence Franks
are here. No, there's nothing

518
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,000
against russ. It's just about team
building. It's just about sustainability. It's

519
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,280
about the future of the franchise.
He's just not good at basketball anymore.

520
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:01,199
Yeah, this is I mean having
I don't know if the Clippers may the

521
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:05,199
Clippers, so they already got hardened
on a more team friendly deal than we

522
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,840
thought he was going to come on, which was going to be three for

523
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,320
one, twenty three for one hundred, whatever. This is a blessing.

524
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:14,440
Two for seventy is great. If
we also move off of Russell Westbrook today

525
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,400
and get someone who can be more
effective. This is a wonderful start to

526
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,039
the free agent They have someone Blones
Highland. There's one on the team that's

527
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:25,559
already more effective. Oh, I
want to take a quick because we are

528
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:29,000
going to put this out as audio. We're going to take a quick ad

529
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,360
break so we know where one of
us has to put the ads in.

530
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,440
At forty ish minutes and we're back. If you're watching us on video,

531
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,920
you didn't You didn't see anything change. People are talking about Tobias Harris is

532
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,719
the starting four. We've been there. Uh No, I have no issue

533
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:52,039
with Tobias Harris. He was a
great Clipper. They're also not last shot

534
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,599
was a game winner against Charlotte.
They're also I don't want to get too

535
00:40:55,639 --> 00:41:00,719
ahead of myself. We know what
the rotation looks like right now. This

536
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,159
is a team that is maybe on
the outside looking in of contender contender status.

537
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,360
I'm not saying they're not a good
team. That's fair. I'm not

538
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,519
saying that they can't be top five
whatever whatever, but at that top,

539
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:19,440
top, top tier. Having Tobias
Harris ride out this era, you know,

540
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,119
the Kawhi Leonard Era whatever. Then
we can start getting some picks and

541
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:27,000
whatnot. It wouldn't be the worst
thing. But again, that's if you

542
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,400
have expectations for this team that are
quasi based in reality and who is on

543
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,679
the team. Here's people's perception on
Tobias Harris. That's off. I see

544
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,079
you do not want Tobias Harris.
Lol. The difference of Tobias Harris making

545
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:45,480
forty million, like he was playing
under the pressure of Philadelphia versus getting the

546
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,960
mid level exception now to be a
fourth option or whatever with the Clippers is

547
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:54,800
night and day. You will get
a different guy. You may get the

548
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:00,480
guy or closer to the guy you
had with the Clippers. Were not gonna

549
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:06,440
hate on Tobias Harris like that because
I know the Philadelphia situation was very unique.

550
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,719
And yeah, that pressure can break
people. It can. It's insane

551
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,119
there they booed Santa Claus. They
will destroy you. They will just tall

552
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:21,039
George, I'm sure is taking this
into account, Like we have to be

553
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:27,400
aware Isy, Well, somebody at
his camp needs to be Uh. Philadelphia

554
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,119
is unforgiving a lot of people asking
where will is at. We gotta let

555
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:34,000
him know that the chat misses him. We have no idea what Will's doing.

556
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,280
He just said he wasn't at his
house, which could mean anything.

557
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:42,400
It was also because Elton Brand kept
him over Jimmy Butler. He was always

558
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,639
being compared to Jimmy Butler in Miami. That added to it as well.

559
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:53,400
It's be a totally different situation wherever
he goes, and I wouldn't hate it.

560
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,320
No, I mean again, and
we're in this We're not rebuilding,

561
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,920
but in this new cap of what
the second Apron is, this is what

562
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:07,360
kind of not a full blown rebuild
looks like. This is what this is

563
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,679
what it looks like. We don't
have a lot of depth. We don't

564
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,760
as much as you love this team, people aren't knocking down the door to

565
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,559
trade for a bunch of guys that
aren't Paul George anything like that. Like

566
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,280
this is kind of what the rebuild
looks like. Scott, he said,

567
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,199
expectations a little bit, right.
I think Scott trands one hundred percent right

568
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,519
too. He's gonna be like,
I had no idea that Phil he was

569
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:34,840
so passionate. This is crazy,
He'll say, I know, but I

570
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,480
didn't know. Yeah, He's gonna
be like my welcome to the League moment

571
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:45,639
getting a triple A battery thrown at
the windshield of my car. Yeah,

572
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:51,760
there's And also right now everyone's waiting
on Paul, like, not just the

573
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Clippers. Free agency itself is held
up by PG Right, is that Adam

574
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,000
to some extent, I think he's
the biggest guy out there. The first

575
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,960
domino to fall could set that he's
the biggest piece for other players. Yeah,

576
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:12,639
if once he gets his money,
it could tell you how everybody else

577
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,159
is going to be slotted in afterwards
and what they're capable of getting. And

578
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:19,400
by the way, there was a
report earlier today that Orlando is willing to

579
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,760
offer him the MAX as well.
So the two teams no tax that are

580
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:32,079
competitive and have MAX money available that
could bring him in easily, they are

581
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,280
reportedly offering him the max in Orlando
and in Philadelphia. So for him to

582
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,960
come back to the Clippers on a
three year he'd not be He wouldn't just

583
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:46,199
be turning down one team, he'd
be turning down two for an extra fifty

584
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:52,519
sixty million dollars. That's I'm not
going to blame him. If that's not

585
00:44:52,519 --> 00:45:00,280
nothing, it's not nothing, So
I do i I'll be we should be

586
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,280
transparent for some people. Junction is
asking who are some mL targets you like,

587
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,880
we haven't looked that far ahead.
Man, I'm really sorry. They

588
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,960
might not even had an extent,
Yeah, Clay, I guess like they

589
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,119
haven't really had the the extend extension
for me, they might not even if

590
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,920
Paul George returns, but we will
have that. I think he's going to

591
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,519
the Lakers. Val Yeah, because
what do you do is Zoo If we

592
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:30,360
get Valentina's well, I mean he's
a backup. I would make him.

593
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,360
That would be great. And the
Zoo extension. So there was a tweet

594
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:40,000
or no, there was something from
the Jake Fisher article earlier today that the

595
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:47,320
Zoobots extension is like number three on
their priority list or something like it's like

596
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,599
figure out the PG shit, figure
out hard, and then the zoobots extension.

597
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:58,599
So I would not be surprised if
we get some Zoobots extension news soon.

598
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,840
Ish Zoo casual will be, but
we won't. He's been a top

599
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,079
five or protector for over five years. Guys, I don't I'm not just

600
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,760
one of the most valuable skills you
can have in today's league. PreTect the

601
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,920
rim help Shanina out, what's the
restaurant in Burbank? Billy's best off of

602
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,079
I believe all of Avenue. There's
McDonald's near it. There's seven to eleven.

603
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,639
Let us know what you think.
All three and then come back o

604
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,559
Park and we'll we'll we'll go to
Booze and we can see what happens.

605
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:30,440
Shanina. Yeah, I'm I'm feeling
pretty good. I don't know this,

606
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:34,679
like it's a weird and the two
and three era might be over, but

607
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:39,760
the team friendly deal is nice,
Like we might get rid of Russ.

608
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,119
I don't know what we trade Russ
for seconds picks? What is a four

609
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:49,599
million dollars Russell Westbrook worth in the
trade? Yeah? I mean that sincerely.

610
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:52,320
I don't could get them a young
player, a young player with some

611
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,079
upside. That's probably what you're looking
at. Wait, is forshizzled? But

612
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:01,280
diizzle Carl tarts Burner, Well,
would y'all like Drummond as a backup?

613
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,840
He's gonna have to admit that is
a great three point before I believe it's

614
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Carl. Yeah, Drummond is a
backup. See, I don't know,

615
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:20,719
man, I I uh yeah,
Like I don't back up whatever Russ to

616
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:28,559
Denver and the Reggie Jackson tpe fuck
it. I feel like Denver probably wouldn't

617
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,199
do it, but well, Denver
wanted Russ. They were supposedly in on

618
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:37,119
Russ before he opted in was the
report. But I cannot picture Russell Westbrook

619
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:44,039
playing within the system that Denver plays
into. This is a great point from

620
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:49,079
Junction right here. We need to
add some regular season merchants. This is

621
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,880
a phenomenal this You're one hundred percent
correct. That was the issue with the

622
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:57,880
part of the depth we lost in
that hardened trade is we didn't have guys

623
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,840
to throw in there and go get
stocks or things like that. This is

624
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,360
a great point. They need innings
eaters, not to use I hate when

625
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,960
you crossover sports metaphors, but that's
why when people are talking about Julius Randall,

626
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,079
he's a regular season merchant. We
all know that, like Brandon Ingram,

627
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,679
regular season merchant like those are the
kind of guy. This is a

628
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,280
great point, and I think I
hope that's what the Clippers are looking for.

629
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,239
I'm not giving up on brandon Ingram
now that they could get below the

630
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,440
first apron. By the way,
we're getting some more sandwich res which if

631
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,880
you have sandwich recks and so cal
toss him in. Thank you, Jose

632
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,719
Bay City Sandwiches in Santa Monica,
best spot. God, okay, good,

633
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,599
good to know. Thank you.
Fire up the sandwich wars. Let's

634
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:39,760
go. Hey, no one loses
in a sandwich war. No one's ever

635
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,800
lost in a sandwich war, because
it just means more sandwiches. Still like

636
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:51,079
a headbut where everyone loses. As
Paul Blart Ballkop said, yeah, I

637
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:55,840
don't, uh. Can I entice
you with Brandon Ingram? Can I sell

638
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,679
you on that? I at my
point would be this. I know he

639
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,559
has struggled in a playoff series recently. He like just turned twenty seven.

640
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:14,119
I believe he is just entering his
prime and is a medi assassin and can

641
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:20,679
shoot from the outside his defense.
Oh my god, Sorry, that was

642
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:22,840
not to you. That was just
to a tweet that I saw that I

643
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,000
will show after you. I'm just
saying with Ingram, you could be getting

644
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,320
a guy at the right time.
Now you have to pay him after this

645
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:37,480
year, but it's it's a high
ceiling play on a player that still has

646
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:42,320
untapped potential. Remember all the comparisons
with him and Kevin Durant when he was

647
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,239
coming out of Duke Well. Nobody, that's completely unfair. Nobody's gonna be

648
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,760
Kevin Durant. But he may be
like half forty, and that's still a

649
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:59,119
good player. He's been an All
Star and again, young guys like that

650
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,679
with his skills that are just entering
their prime that are available is pretty rare.

651
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,599
The Pelicans have soured on him.
It looks like they're moving on.

652
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,119
They have de Jontay Murray and it
sounds like they're keeping CJ. McCollum over

653
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:19,800
brandon Ingram. If fit doesn't work
there, it could easily work somewhere else.

654
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,880
I just would not give up on
a player that young. Well,

655
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,199
by the way, is also played
in lay before. Am I wrong?

656
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,960
You're not wrong, You're not wrong. He can be a little bit of

657
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,599
a black hole at times on offense, but we're talking about someone who's still

658
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:42,239
malleable in entering his prime. Malleable
is key because that's what this team likes,

659
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:51,760
is getting people within the system.
I see him and the zach Lavine

660
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:58,199
opportunity considering you get a first out
of that as rarities that you could at

661
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,639
least take a look at. Yeah, that's fair. That's those aren't non

662
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,360
starters to me. Yeah, depending
on what they want. Yeah, it

663
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,199
could turn out to be a non
starter, but or turn out to be

664
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,159
a bad deal, and I wouldn't
do it. But I'm I'm interested.

665
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:22,159
I'm listening. Okay, I have
to put up a tweet that is this

666
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,239
the one that got your ire?
Yes? Because this shit is insane and

667
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,840
if Clippers fans want to continue to
live in the past about what this man

668
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,719
did, then go for it.
I almost don't want to say who it's

669
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,280
from. I'm not I'm gonna block
out who it's from. No, we

670
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,679
want the smoke. Okay, it's
from farbad he said. I honestly don't

671
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,719
think Russell Westbrook got a fair shake
on the Clippers. Played his absolute ass

672
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,760
off on the twenty twenty three playoffs
and showed he could still have big games.

673
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,320
Immediately got a short lease and cut
short in twenty twenty four, unfortunate

674
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:58,519
ending last season, but still did
great things. I want to preface this

675
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:05,039
by saying I am an equal lover
of analytics and the eye test. I

676
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,320
love both of those things. I
think both of those things should exist in

677
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,960
harmony. When you look at players. What the fuck are we talking about

678
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,320
with Russell Westbrook here? I love
the guy's passion. I love the pop

679
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:22,679
from the crowd when Russell Westbrook steps
on the court. He was bad,

680
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:29,519
duh, he was not good.
He was bad. Why I feel like

681
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:32,920
I'm taking crazy pills here? He
didn't get a fair shake. He got

682
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,039
over twenty minutes a game as the
backup point guard. What are we doing

683
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:45,679
here? Sorry? This is crazy? Am I wrong? What's a fair

684
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,280
shake? He should start? What
the fuck are we talking about here?

685
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:53,239
I think he got a fair shake
in the playoff series where they didn't have

686
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Kauhi for most of it, and
when they did, he wasn't Kawhi and

687
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:04,119
he ended up going eight for forty
two. What the the last five games

688
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:08,960
of that playoff series where they desperately
needed help and he went eight for forty

689
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,960
two. It wasn't because he had
a diminished role. It was because he's

690
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:22,840
always been limited and been a playoff
lowerer, not a riser. His game

691
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:28,400
doesn't translate well because he works well
in chaos and the playoffs are much more

692
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:34,599
deliberate and methodical. It's fucking crazy
and far bad is a great Clippers reporter.

693
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,239
But like Farbaugh jog, he didn't
have that. What does he need?

694
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:42,159
It's russ in five centers to all
catch a ninety eight mile an hour

695
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:50,159
pass when he dribbles into three defenders
and like anymore, and you keep smoking

696
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,000
layups that hard. Guess what They
aren't turnovers in the box score technically,

697
00:53:55,679 --> 00:54:00,960
but they are guys. He didn't
make an He didn't get a fair shake

698
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:06,199
twenty plus minutes. Is the backup
point guard on a contending team? What

699
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,840
is the fair shake for Russell Westbrook? Then? And again, I love

700
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,039
the guy. He's a great person. He's a wonderful humanitarian, incredibly stylish

701
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:21,039
tadle it seemingly a great father.
No, he didn't get a fair shake.

702
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,280
What's a fair shake? I always
have said about Russell Westbrook? Now

703
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:32,760
in his prime, he can take
a bad team in the regular season and

704
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,000
raise their ceiling and get them a
six seed, like he did when he

705
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,320
won the MVP, I think the
first time averaging a triple double that wasn't

706
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,719
a great team around him. He
can raise a team and their floor there

707
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,440
ten years ago. Yeah, we're
talking about him getting out of the first

708
00:54:50,519 --> 00:54:55,159
round though, since he left KD
one time, one time in the playoffs,

709
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,159
it doesn't work. And on an
elite team or a team with much

710
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:06,880
more talent like the Clippers, it's
not as necessary what he does because everything

711
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,039
has to be built around him.
Everything has to be built around him to

712
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:15,559
build around a guy who's thirty six
or whatever. He's turning now and very

713
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:21,239
limited in not being able to finish
layups anymore, and he still can't shoot.

714
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:28,119
That's just what team's going to do
that. I mean, he's supposed

715
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:34,960
to think he wouldn't have opted in
if the market was robust for Russell Westbrook,

716
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,559
if somebody was going to give him
fifty million dollars to go be a

717
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,559
featured player on their team. Don't
you think he wouldn't have opted in.

718
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,000
I think we're finding out about his
value at this point. And he's an

719
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:50,039
all time Hall of Fame player,
a top seventy five player ever. But

720
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,519
he's always been limited in certain areas
in his prime, and he certainly is

721
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:58,119
now on the back end of it. It's just crazy he didn't get a

722
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:05,039
fair shake. What the anyway sorry
got heated? Were coming up on an

723
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:07,679
hour and out, No Paul George
news will supposedly pop it in at some

724
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,159
point, I say, we keep
it going. Somebody said, twenty four

725
00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:15,119
hour pod, let's just let's just
go. We can, we can stick

726
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:17,639
with go as long as ESPN is
going today with their coverage. Well,

727
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,519
just as I have to cook for
some people in a few I you were

728
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:30,320
just cooking a second ago. Rock
says, if we can get rid of

729
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,920
Westbrook and Tucker without giving up anything, would be a bonus. It'd be

730
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,599
huge, it'd be phenomenal. Uh
oh for the Andre drummondheads. Umm uh

731
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:50,480
he's going to the Sixers. Ooh, that's interesting. So is that going

732
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:54,320
to take up any of the salary
that could be a max slot for Paul

733
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:00,880
George? Is it's safe for how
much? Probably not ten mill ten million

734
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,400
plus deal they're gonna have to I
could still see it, I said yesterday.

735
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,719
Maybe he only gets one ninety or
one eighty from Philadelphia, you know,

736
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:15,840
Yeah, but it's not the one
fifty ish. Still it's a thirty

737
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,400
or fifty or forty million more dollars
than the Clippers were offering. It's still

738
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,039
significant. Yeah, people are saying
Chris Haynes tweeted about Russ. Yeah,

739
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:28,280
he just tweeted that it's his last
It was probably his last game for the

740
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,880
Clippers, and it's gonna I'm still
gonna remember some of the good times,

741
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,599
like Game one against the Philadelphia seventy
six Ers and the effort game in that

742
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:44,840
series for an undermined Clippers team.
It's just on an elite team. I

743
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:50,199
don't think he's a great fit because
he's so erratic with his chaotic style and

744
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,039
you don't know what you're getting possession
to possession La Murray. You know some

745
00:57:54,119 --> 00:58:00,559
of the seventy six ers just signed
Andre Dummon. Probably means a read is

746
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:06,480
gone, which is something there,
okay, which is something with a possible

747
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,840
opten and trade there. Oh yeah, we don't all read on the Clippers

748
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,679
like five or six years ago.
We have to put this up because this

749
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,400
is a great thing from uh Makoto
Bdo. Who is Andy J. Puente.

750
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,719
Andy J. Puente, I believe
from all I've seen, is just

751
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,360
another dude who's decided to get in
on engagement farming during free agency season.

752
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:32,480
So he's just aggregating existing reports.
And I don't even think what I'm saying

753
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:37,000
is like disrespect for anything. He
just takes people's reports and puts them on

754
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:43,719
his Twitter. Yeah, I mean
he doesn't have any sources. Yeah,

755
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:49,719
like it's not lood for the ivory. We see it all too often nowadays.

756
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:52,880
People rephrase it and they make a
living doing that. I mean,

757
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,320
it's no different than people on YouTube
playing a clip and then reacting to it

758
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,000
and try to bac seem like they
use with their screaming headline they put on

759
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:05,440
it. Yeah, all right,
we gotta show Eric's new art because it's

760
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,280
good. Now we're talking. Now, we're talking. Now we're talking Eric,

761
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:17,039
Where's hold on? We gotta up, let's go. What's up?

762
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:24,039
We're celebrating Harden. I just overheard
some Charles yelling. Was there some rus

763
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:28,079
there's some rust stuff going on?
Yeah, far Bad was tweeting about how

764
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:32,519
Russ never got a fair shake with
the Clippers. Ah, okay, people

765
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:38,039
understand who Russell Westbrook is as a
basketball player and never did what I think

766
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:42,840
it kind of is a warshock test. What fairer of a shake could he

767
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,800
have gotten? We looked this up
the other day, averaged like twenty three

768
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,760
minutes. Right, it's it doesn't
exist. The shake does not. He

769
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:55,119
should have stayed a starter, so
they could have been fifteen before they just

770
00:59:55,159 --> 01:00:00,400
insane. But this is the new
art from l WF Eric thirty three.

771
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:07,599
He's in Costa Rica enjoying that looking
great, loving life. Yeah. Look

772
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:10,320
it looks like a damn movie star
kind of relaxation you need before you,

773
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,519
you know, lead this country to
a gold medal. This yeah, no,

774
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,679
Jose Quermana, So are we drinking
beer? This is a lacroix.

775
01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:25,320
I uh mountain dew die a vouka
sota a right soda? Good call?

776
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,719
May What are you guys drinking watching
us? Yeah, that's true. Shark

777
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,199
in the box, that's very funny. Uh. We have live stream from

778
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,320
separate rooms in the same apartment,
but we we do not live together.

779
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,519
We do not look together. We
get asked that a lot though. That's

780
01:00:38,519 --> 01:00:42,199
a fair question if we have the
space, if I had three bedrooms.

781
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,960
They are the Burton Ernie of the
Clipsing Tip podcast. Yeah, how do

782
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,280
you feel about the Hardened Thing?
Oh wait, hold on, We're gonna

783
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,639
maybe do another ad for the audio, So I'm gonna clap right now.

784
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:53,920
We're gonna do ad and we're back. Will How are you feeling about the

785
01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:00,039
Harden resign for two for seventy love
It I'm surprised about the years. Actually,

786
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:05,639
just from his perspective, it's a
very very team friendly deal. I

787
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:07,840
feel like I just thought, you
know, he in the course of his

788
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,639
career, just the way he's done
his contracts and you know, it seems

789
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:17,360
like kind of got done dirty and
philly. I mean, he's left like,

790
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:22,719
you know, fifties if not like
maybe one hundred million dollars in total

791
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:27,280
career earnings on the table. So
for him to get him at two for

792
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:32,519
seventy is incredible. I don't know, I haven't really done the research on

793
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:37,960
the full cap implications yet, but
that still opens up a pathway for us

794
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,199
to get under the first apron.
Correct, Yeah, I mean if Paul

795
01:01:42,239 --> 01:01:46,719
George leaves, I believe we are
just kind of apt under the first apron,

796
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,360
which is sick and like again,
twenty four hours ago, twenty four

797
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,760
hours ago, if someone's like,
hey, they're coming back and we're gonna

798
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,000
be under the first apron, I
would like, fucking sign me up,

799
01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:07,559
dude, Let's let's absolutely get there. I don't know a lot of yeah

800
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:10,599
this, I don't know. I'm
how do you feel about the Paul George

801
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:13,760
thing? Do you think he's just
going to Philly. Do you think he's

802
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,519
just gone? That is still feeling
like the most likely scenario. Uh.

803
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:23,800
The only thing I think that could
potentially change that is, you know,

804
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:30,760
if not willing to offer him the
max, Yeah, which they it's Orlando.

805
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:36,199
Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I I I mean, if

806
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:38,360
it comes down to Orlando or the
Clippers, is he willing to take a

807
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:43,159
pay cut? At that point?
It's even more of a pay cut though,

808
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:45,840
because you mentioned the Florida taxes.
Yeah, no, there's no oh,

809
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:51,360
yeah, that's right. Well,
Justin Russo has also really smartly pointed

810
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,719
out that like, not only does
it get them out of the tax,

811
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,679
it gets them to stop paying the
repeater tax if they get under. If

812
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:02,360
they get under, the first a
been for a year. So that's a

813
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:08,400
potential savings set. That's the potential
savings of like hundreds of millions of dollars.

814
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:13,239
I think it's like four hundred million
dollars. Yeah, it's like kind

815
01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:15,400
of yeah, it's a lot of
money. But to like to get out

816
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,760
of there, how rich you are? Four hundred million is four hundred million?

817
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:22,280
Yeah, half a billion? How
much? That's how much? Like

818
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,400
the Bucks franchise went for like five
years ago. Right, Yeah, No,

819
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:30,159
I mean it's it's it's a huge
amount of money, and I agree,

820
01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:32,719
like wal Bonner is willing to spend
the money if you can get under

821
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:37,039
that. Uh you know, you
set yourself up for a good position and

822
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:43,400
looking at the free agent market this
year being what it was, uh,

823
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,800
same junction. You know. I
think it's I think it's reasonable, especially

824
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,639
if there's not, like say,
a Levine deal or something out there,

825
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:54,679
which I like, I'm not super
high on it, you know, but

826
01:03:54,719 --> 01:04:00,039
it is it is talent. What
about the first you know, healths shaking?

827
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:04,719
If there's not first pick from Chicago. That could be a lottery pick.

828
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:11,719
Yeah, that could even be a
boat. Sorry, is that like

829
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,079
a Flexio commercial or no, it's
from a family guy when they can choose

830
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,719
either a free boat or a mystery
gift and he goes could be a mystery.

831
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,360
It could even be about and keep
going. Will What are your thoughts

832
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,880
on Levine? Like? I I
like it as like I like an added

833
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,400
scorer. Oh, thank you,
I got it at a thrip STORYM.

834
01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:36,400
I like it as an added scorer. I mean defensively not doing a lot.

835
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:42,800
The injury stuff is troubling as well. What's that How many years are

836
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,119
left on that deal? Not that
long? Right? Is he an experience

837
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:50,280
with an expiring on the last year
that's forty eight million. Oh, it'll

838
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:56,920
be thirty one at the end of
it. It's not terrible. You're in

839
01:04:57,039 --> 01:05:03,920
theory getting prime years. Yeah,
if he stays healthy, I am probably

840
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:12,320
wall player though I see I I
honestly, I think it's been situational for

841
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,639
him. Chicago hasn't been a winning
place. It hasn't been a winning place

842
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:18,400
for a long time since sure the
left, since Derek Rose and TIBs and

843
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Jimmy, butl mismanaged, really mismanaged, like I think exactly be in the

844
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,079
right spot could pop and prove that
narrative to be false. So this is

845
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:34,400
what Junk and Junction brought this up
earlier. Well, we need regular season

846
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,920
merchants. Yeah, and Levine is
a regular. He's a regular. He

847
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:43,599
is a merchant. Yeah, I
mean, look like healthy with Paul George

848
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:47,840
off, this team, Like the
realistic possibility of this team winning championship is

849
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,880
nil. That's what I was just. Yeah, I mean, I I

850
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,159
like it. It's talent and yeah, like for for the regular season,

851
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:59,119
if he stays healthy, that's a
guy that can put up numbers. That's

852
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:01,639
a guy that can that can microwave
stuff when this offense sort of stalls out.

853
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,719
So yeah, I think it's really
interesting. I think that he's a

854
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:13,400
nice compliment next to Harden too.
I think that that's a really interesting piece.

855
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,719
But as far as like raising the
ceiling of of like what this team

856
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,719
does, I mean it does.
It does for the regular season. Like

857
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,159
I said, you know this this
team is is now out of its contender

858
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:28,360
phase. So it's how do we
how do we put out the best possible

859
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,519
on court product, and then how
do we smoothly transition into the next phase

860
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:36,840
of of the you know what is
going to be an eventual rebuild because Kawhi,

861
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,079
you know, at the end of
this contract is is likely done uh

862
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,920
in the NBA. UH, And
we've got to, you know, hope

863
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,679
that we retain what little young talent
that we have uh and try to build

864
01:06:47,679 --> 01:06:51,320
around that and make make something competitive
and make something that's at least going to

865
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,920
get ass and seats and into it. I don't think the contender phase is

866
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,480
over. I want to be honest
about that. That's foolish, but I

867
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:03,000
you're optimist. I just saw Dallas
Mavericks team go to the finals that the

868
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,719
Clippers with Kawhi and take out Paul
George, and that series are beating.

869
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:11,519
You could take out Paul George in
that first round series, yet the Clippers

870
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:15,960
won't have Kawhi and Paul George next
year. You could take out Paul George

871
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,079
and not even have them in that
series and have Kawhi and James Harden and

872
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:21,159
they would have beat the Dallas Mavericks
in the first round. I mean,

873
01:07:21,199 --> 01:07:24,679
I don't know. That's revision is
history. They beat the Nuggets. So,

874
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,679
no, they didn't beat the Nuggets. They didn't have to. They

875
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,199
didn't end up playing the Nuggets Minnesota. That's right. They didn't have to

876
01:07:30,199 --> 01:07:34,280
beat the Nuggets. Okay, so
there are paths where you can be more

877
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,639
for they beat the team that beat
the Nuggets, though, so property they

878
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:45,119
did beat the Nuggets. I don't
think that team was some unbeatable team by

879
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:48,800
the Clippers of the first round and
they took them to six like things break

880
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:57,119
Clippers team. Kevin Porter Junior is
coming to the Clippers two year deal with

881
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:05,400
a player option. Here for it. Okay, who had that shams.

882
01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:15,639
Let's go. Let's let's go go. Kevin Porter talk about getting younger.

883
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,279
This is how you do it.
Still not a contender, will real time

884
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:27,000
contender just made right there with Kevin. Look, I'm just saying he's got

885
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:30,520
a ton of talent. They've been
off the court issues. There have been

886
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,000
issues with the franchise there in Houston. This is not bad at all.

887
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:41,760
This is again taking risks on guys. What did a Lawrence Frank say about

888
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:47,119
Kai Jones? He called him like
Fallen Angels type guys. Girlfriend Kevin Porter

889
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:55,039
Jr. Had some pretty rough stuff. Yes, And I'm just going off

890
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:57,560
as on the court talent. This
is how you can get a guy like

891
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:02,479
that. You're separating the art from
the from the artist. Unfortunately, you

892
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:08,159
have to do that quite often in
sports. Uh too, sure it all

893
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:16,079
the time. And I I don't
like condemning young people. I don't for

894
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:19,399
the rest of their lives, depending
on what it is case by case basis

895
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:23,720
of course. But do we want
to run we can. I mean,

896
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,880
I let me just look up as
wiki because I want to have all the

897
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:41,000
facts. He is from Seattle,
Blood guilty to misdemeanor assault and harassment violation

898
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,039
after he attacked his girlfriend in a
blood leaving her in a hotel, leaving

899
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:53,039
her covered in blood with a deep
cut above the right eye. It's tough.

900
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:57,960
I didn't know all the details there. It seems like he also as

901
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:03,680
difficulty. He also pressured her to
chain her statements to to to prosecutors after

902
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:11,960
after she was initially interviewed, which
is like a text mark move of DV

903
01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:16,399
cases. When you get into the
details, it's certainly going to be scrutinized,

904
01:10:16,399 --> 01:10:23,039
There's no doubt about it. Well, he's a Clipper now. I

905
01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:26,640
didn't know the extent of it.
Uh. I was going more oft of

906
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,920
what happened with him in Houston,
and I knew there was some malcontent stuff

907
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:39,000
there. Yeah, but he's a
Clipper now. Uh yeah. What was

908
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:45,960
the contract? Two year deal including
a player option. That's all we got.

909
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,600
Multiple believes it's a minimum. I
mean, so this is a take

910
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:58,239
a flyer type thing, just like
with who isn't officially back yet? Right.

911
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,800
No, he was like relief,
Yeah, because they wanted to work

912
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:13,520
out like a different deal. Yeah, I believe Kai Jones released. Sorry,

913
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,680
I'm guessing this is something we're just
like with past guys. We mentioned

914
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,640
Kai Jones, but where the Clippers
haven't monitoring the situation for some time.

915
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:27,159
I think Kai Jones ends up on
the summer League team for sure. He

916
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:30,119
need he she should get a shot. We had Law on the show and

917
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:34,199
he talked about how they want to
give Kay a shot at being the five.

918
01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:39,279
He's an athletic five. I think
it makes sense to give him a

919
01:11:39,279 --> 01:11:45,039
shot at the five like he's you
know, that's what he should do.

920
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,319
Yeah, the shizzlebizzil is he anything? Have to take chances right now?

921
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:55,079
With young guys, they simply have
to. It is not sustainable in the

922
01:11:55,119 --> 01:12:00,920
new CBA to keep running it back
over and over again with higher christ veterans.

923
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:04,399
You either find out if a young
guy can hack it or not and

924
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:09,399
move on to the next one,
or you just don't have sustainability in a

925
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,000
franchise to continue to contend. The
only way is to land on some young

926
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:18,800
guys. Now, there's no other
meals. Okay, Dime Dime just had

927
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:25,760
a really funny tweet. Uh Dime
just tweeted out Clippers seems so image conscious

928
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,199
and then go out and I don't
even just go look at dime doppers street

929
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:32,239
I think he brings up a good
point. The Clippers are very image conscious,

930
01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:39,720
but then they make moves where sometimes
you're just kind of confused. Yeah,

931
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,239
I don't know. Fan base doesn't
seem to like it on Twitter at

932
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:48,760
all, but it's certainly a flyer
situation and a guy that is getting another

933
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:54,760
chance because like with Kai Jones,
Laurence Frank called him a fallen angel.

934
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,039
Uh Like, who does he supplant
though? In the in the point guard

935
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:05,560
rotation? Yeah, in the rotation. Will he make it, you know,

936
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,640
through all the way through training camp
and make it onto the team or

937
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,600
is this just really a situation where
they're gonna have to see something early on

938
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,840
here. I think it's gotta be
see something early on. He was playing

939
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:23,039
in Greece, which is a pretty
good, pretty good league, but other

940
01:13:23,079 --> 01:13:27,319
teams didn't early one of them.
This was this was he. This happened

941
01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:30,359
in January of this year when he
pled to this deal and essentially he was

942
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:35,439
not on an NBA roster for a
money and maybe second round picks move.

943
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:40,199
He remember, he got moved to
the Oklahoma City Thunder and they cut him

944
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:44,920
immediately and then no no one picked
him up for I think he's been playing

945
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,199
in Greece, but it hasn't like
I don't even know if it hasn't even

946
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:53,079
been for a full season. Probably
in Greece and Greece, it's been like

947
01:13:53,119 --> 01:13:56,920
six weeks or so. Yeah,
yeah, I mean it hasn't been super

948
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:08,880
long. Yeah, it's I mean
someone someone tweeted out as the Fondi Barani

949
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,159
tweeted out, NBA teams keep reminding
you what their priorities are, which like,

950
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:20,399
that's not it sucks, We're not
We're not saying that sports teams,

951
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:27,479
Yeah, you could go a lot
further than the NBA businesses continue to remind

952
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,920
you what their priorities are. I
think, Look, I'm not saying there's

953
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,319
a statute of limitations on this.
I do wonder when when do the incident

954
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:41,479
take place? And what type of
rehabilitation are we talking about here? It's

955
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,439
a court ordered thing. I don't
know. It's it's like eighteen weeks or

956
01:14:45,159 --> 01:14:49,439
or something. I don't know,
because the Clippers were very detailed about every

957
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,800
all the steps that kai Jones went
through, and I'm assuming this primo thing.

958
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,600
Kai Jones didn't really have to go
through steps primo, no, but

959
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,000
but they were monitoring what he was
doing as well. Premo for sure,

960
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:04,039
But Kai Jones was the same with
whom they knew about the therapy he was

961
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:09,199
going through. But he had no
legal issues. True, he didn't have

962
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:13,079
legal issues. He just he needed
help with his brain, which all of

963
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:16,000
us do at some points. So
that's I think. Yeah, it's interesting.

964
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:18,439
It's definitely a move where if you're
the Clipper, you're just kind of

965
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,520
like, why are we Like why
I'm just saying, I know they're not

966
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:27,840
going into it blind. They know
something aside from this part of his background.

967
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:30,640
They're gonna know what he's been doing
since then. Yeah, for sure.

968
01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:34,840
Yeah, well fucking see. I
guess whether or not you disagree with

969
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,359
it when you know that information or
not, you know, it's is a

970
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,039
personal decision. It's an individual decision, of course. And again we're talking

971
01:15:44,079 --> 01:15:47,079
about somebody that I don't think it's
any guarantee that he's on the team.

972
01:15:48,279 --> 01:15:51,600
Uh yeah, is the contract it's
a flyer, it's got to be a

973
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:58,880
minimum. We're not it's this isn't
a domino? Really, when do we

974
01:15:59,039 --> 01:16:02,479
think? What time is it over
in Philadelphia? Seven around seven thirty in

975
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:08,359
Philly? Right now? When do
we think that Paul George decision. Are

976
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,880
we getting it Monday? Are you
getting at tomorrow? On his pod?

977
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,680
I mean, is that is that
completely out of the realm of possibilities for

978
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,399
Paul? If I was him,
I would do it. I would break

979
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:27,840
it myself that right, Like so
is Monday on the pod? Like the

980
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,920
next one? Is that what we're
going to hear about pg's science Pg's decision.

981
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:36,479
My guess is there's almost too there
probably is too much smoke and too

982
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:41,000
many reports for him to be able
to keep it quiet to end up breaking

983
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:47,119
the news himself. Yeah, but
he's they could be just so far down

984
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:51,079
the path or getting there step by
step. Who knows, maybe maybe he's

985
01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:55,560
coming back to the Clippers and he
throws us for a loop here. So

986
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,760
that someone asked us in the chat, how would you feel if Paul George

987
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,880
came back? Well, I said
that if Paul George came back on a

988
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,960
team friendly deal, I would laugh
my ass off. Yeah, it'd be

989
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:14,000
weird, it'd be weird. But
look from from a talent perspective, it's

990
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:17,760
it's the best possible option, Like
we're not gonna do better for this next

991
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:23,479
season? You know, could you
hope to do better. Maybe like in

992
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,800
the future, if you could get
assets, sure, but that's out of

993
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,800
the picture now, Like that's just
not that's not happening. With the opt

994
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,039
out, There's there's no way you
can you can really reclaim any sort of

995
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:36,479
assets. So Paul George is the
best we can do if he can come

996
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:41,359
back on a on a team friendly
deal. Yeah, I mean, that's

997
01:17:41,359 --> 01:17:45,079
a good I'll come I you know, he's I know, he's an ardent

998
01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:47,039
watcher of this podcast. So we
might have to we might have to train

999
01:17:47,119 --> 01:17:54,079
a couple episodes. But from a
talent perspective, it's the best. It's

1000
01:17:54,319 --> 01:17:58,399
it's you know, it is the
best case scenario for the Clippers. I

1001
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:03,119
think. Look, I think with
more time to work it out with Harden,

1002
01:18:03,239 --> 01:18:05,760
certainly like a full off season.
I mean, you guys have heard

1003
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,159
me, and maybe I even put
too much emphasis into it, but like

1004
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:14,279
I think of a healthy full off
season is huge for a team, Like

1005
01:18:14,359 --> 01:18:16,960
it's massive, and it's one of
those things the Clippers are rarely afforded,

1006
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:24,359
whether through injury or through mid season
trade. So I do see a lot

1007
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:27,960
of potential there, but it just
comes down to what is that team friendly

1008
01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:31,960
contract, and at the end of
that, like, are there hard feelings

1009
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,319
on either end, because obviously I
don't think there is organizationally from the Clippers.

1010
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,840
I don't know how Paul George ultimately
feels about that. But if he

1011
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,960
does test the market and find that
the max isn't there for whatever reason,

1012
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,359
comes back on a team friendly deal, I don't really know how you could

1013
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:54,000
be mad at the Clippers about that. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't be

1014
01:18:54,079 --> 01:18:57,479
mad at all. We got a
Buie bomb in the chat KCP is going

1015
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,680
to Orlando on a one year deal. Love that. It's a great pit

1016
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,520
That's that's a great It's crazy that. I mean he was huge for the

1017
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:14,399
Nuggets. Good And it is a
minimum contract just posted and the minimum contract

1018
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,119
with the Clippers. So for those
say like well, Bridges would make more

1019
01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:20,640
sense, like he's a position of
need and has all this baggage, just

1020
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,840
like if you signed Bridges, He's
definitely all. That was mostly just a

1021
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:30,399
joke about the Clippers taking people with
not good history of relationships. This guy

1022
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:34,119
looks dead serious about it, but
Rock, he looks you go pretty deep

1023
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:38,640
into it, guys. It's a
minimum contract, whether or not he's on

1024
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,399
the team. It is definitely the
flyer situation KCP three years, sixty six

1025
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,279
mil. Yeah, I was gonna
say one year deal. I'm that surprise

1026
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:50,600
that's all. He could get three
for sixty six. That's a good signing

1027
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:55,560
for the Magic. Look, he
helps every team he's been on. I'm

1028
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,359
just surprised. He's a good guy. I'm just surprised that. I mean,

1029
01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:01,119
I guess given it age, but
like, I'm just surprised that teams

1030
01:20:01,119 --> 01:20:05,920
are so willing to let him go. Does this make rust to the Nuggets

1031
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,159
more they they wanted, They inquired
about him before he opted in. Does

1032
01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:15,640
rust to the Nuggets? I don't
think so. I don't think there's I

1033
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:24,079
think the flavored just the stinky ones
play not ridged. Their GM had already

1034
01:20:24,079 --> 01:20:26,640
come out like a week ago and
said, you know, basically, if

1035
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,680
we lose him, we have Christian
Brown. We have guys that we can

1036
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,720
go to. They've been, you
know, with a decent pipeline right now

1037
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,319
to the NBA Draft of funneling in
new talent. They've been good about that.

1038
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:47,600
The Denver gosh, they've been laying
the pipeline right like tomorrow. Yeah,

1039
01:20:48,279 --> 01:20:51,920
man, Lawrence Franks. I don't
know, there's some interesting uh he's

1040
01:20:53,279 --> 01:20:57,039
and does the addition of another guard. Well, I mean this is the

1041
01:20:57,079 --> 01:20:59,439
deepest position, Like, I don't
know, it's got, it's got.

1042
01:21:00,039 --> 01:21:01,600
Are you gonna do this and not
address it? They will address it?

1043
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:08,119
Yeah, absolutely, you would hope
that it means like either run I mean

1044
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:12,399
preferably Russ, but like something could
be in the works for Norm too.

1045
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,079
Yeah, there is is a scorer. He's not as good as a shooter,

1046
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:19,319
but he is a scorer. I
mean he he played like thirty four

1047
01:21:19,359 --> 01:21:21,920
minutes, but he's like just under
a twenty point per game. Guy.

1048
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:32,119
Yeah, there's a path there.
Somebody's saying Isaiah Hartenstein is going to really

1049
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:34,520
I'm not sure if that's a report
or not. I'm checking it here on

1050
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:44,079
X Adam as I'm on X.
I don't see any breaking news yet on

1051
01:21:44,199 --> 01:21:49,920
that. They're probably just reading the
camera meal the camera meal. Yeah,

1052
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,560
I don't, man, I want
this, I just want the PG saw

1053
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,600
gonna end. If I'm being august
honest, riff, the band aid off

1054
01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:06,479
right off? Can we just end
it? Like? And I understand the

1055
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:14,640
frustration and outrage side of it with
people talking about k I did not know

1056
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,479
the extent of it. I thought
we were talking about baggage with his game

1057
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,079
with the Houston Rockets. I believe
happened at one point, like he just

1058
01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:27,119
left. He had an issue with
teammates in Houston. They did not like.

1059
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,279
Yeah, I mean, he was
part of that draft class. I

1060
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:33,840
mean, I'm in no way relating
this to his behavior because that's reprehensible,

1061
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:39,399
but he was like kind of part
of that in between build of draft picks

1062
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,439
and especially guards that they didn't really
seem to know what exactly they wanted to

1063
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,640
do with, Like there wasn't really
a whole lot of direction. So I

1064
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,279
do believe that there was, you
know, a lot of dysfunction in the

1065
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:54,680
in the organization. And of course
again I'm just talking about the on court

1066
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,960
stuff. So deuced Times is bringing
up an interesting thing. He's all enough

1067
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,439
to remember Kobe opted out and No. Four took a meeting and he came

1068
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,479
back. I think the issue this
is a great point because it has happened

1069
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,520
before. But the issue is,
oh, like Kobe did that though,

1070
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,399
to put Levers on the franchise,
to trade Shack, to say I could

1071
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,279
leave and so you better do something. But in this issue with the Clippers.

1072
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,039
It's that fourth year. It's sticking
on the fourth year, and it's

1073
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:21,439
not you know what I mean?
Like that This is a great point by

1074
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,199
Deuce, but like the Clippers don't
want to give him four years for a

1075
01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:29,399
MAX and if you give him three
with a player option on the last year,

1076
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:34,960
I mean, that's getting picked up
for sure. A lot of people

1077
01:23:35,039 --> 01:23:39,479
are in this camp that PG isn't
leaving. What's the deal? If you're

1078
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,079
in the chat and we're just using
slang, what's the deal for PG?

1079
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:48,640
If he's not leaving? What do
you think in the chat? Uh?

1080
01:23:49,079 --> 01:23:51,439
Do you think he comes back for
if he's not leaving? Because the Clippers

1081
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,560
aren't offering a max. And I
mean this sincerely because I don't know what

1082
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,720
he comes back for. If he
comes back to the Clippers, you know

1083
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:03,560
what I mean, he'd be turning
down reportedly, two teams that are offering

1084
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,560
him the MAX that are also competitive
teams. You wouldn't believe this, but

1085
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,239
Orlando was like the five seed last
year and the Philadelphia seventy six ers half

1086
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:19,199
MAXI and evide he's not just leaving
to get money to go play for the

1087
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:24,119
Charlotte Hornets, he could go to
Detroit. These aren't Yeah, yeah,

1088
01:24:24,199 --> 01:24:26,960
no, totally. I mean that's
why Philly makes the most sense too,

1089
01:24:27,079 --> 01:24:31,039
because it is it is a the
clearest path to the finals. You're in

1090
01:24:31,239 --> 01:24:35,960
the weaker conference sorry, uh sixers. I mean, yes, they haven't

1091
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,560
gotten out of the second round,
but they are, if not a contender,

1092
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:45,600
on the verge of being a contender
basically every single year. And if

1093
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,960
you look at it from a talent
perspective, Paul George could get max money

1094
01:24:48,359 --> 01:24:54,119
to be the third best player on
the team, which is seemingly exactly what

1095
01:24:54,279 --> 01:24:58,760
he wants. Situationally, who wants
us He wants to be fancy Tobias Harris

1096
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,520
on the seventy six ers, And
if they're willing to pay him max money

1097
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,720
to do that, I would I
mean if I was Paul Georgia, I

1098
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,279
would take that deal in a heartbeat. Are you kidding me? Yeah?

1099
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:14,039
For everybody talking about the family thing
and the draw to staying with the Clippers

1100
01:25:14,039 --> 01:25:15,840
because of that, Yes, we
have talked about it extensively. I think

1101
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,199
that would be the biggest reason he'd
stay. Yeah, it's sure he's home.

1102
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:26,680
Yeah, he had always wanted to
come back to Southern California. There

1103
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,680
were Lakers rumors before too, So
is he back on three for one fifty?

1104
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:36,880
That would be that ends up being
the end of this whole thing.

1105
01:25:38,119 --> 01:25:43,399
Wow, so much ado about nothing? Yeah? So much? Yeah,

1106
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:50,079
I mean, I mean that's true
because basically the same offers have been there

1107
01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:56,199
the entire time, and he just
eventually came to the realization that, you

1108
01:25:56,279 --> 01:25:59,279
know what, I'd rather I'm more
comfortable here. Yeah, the money's the

1109
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:03,039
money, doesn't that way being being
comfortable with my family in Los Angeles,

1110
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:09,560
Palmdale. Where do you think they
take them out to dinner in Orlando to

1111
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:15,920
try and where do you take Paul
If you're like the Disney World the Top

1112
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:20,840
and they go to they eat around
the world, do a little wide and

1113
01:26:21,039 --> 01:26:27,359
dine around the world. I'm on
trip Advisor and it's the top restaurants in

1114
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,720
Orlando. Number two is the Melting
Pot, which is a national fondue cheese

1115
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,560
chain. So, I don't know, I don't know what if, I

1116
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:39,439
don't know if Orlando's being is pretty
is good, it's just sure it shouldn't

1117
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,520
be this. It's a little pricey, it's a little overrated. It shouldn't

1118
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,279
be the second best restaurant in your
city. Yeah, that's fair. It

1119
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:51,640
shouldn't be someone brought up back to
the bubble. Would this be bubble redemption?

1120
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,359
If George went to Orlando, Bubble
redemption would be PG having a great

1121
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,680
game six in Orlando in the finals
against the Magic for the Clippers. That

1122
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:06,640
would be bubble redemption. M But
yeah, this is a great point from

1123
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:12,119
x Mango Project, which is kind
of where I'm at. He seems unserious

1124
01:27:12,199 --> 01:27:15,920
sometimes where you and this is what
Sixers fans. I think the frustrations they

1125
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,279
would meet is you're like, does
this guy want to win? Where are

1126
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:21,640
we at? He wants to play
the right way, He has quotes stacked

1127
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:28,239
against him. He seems serious.
When he said there's no identity, he

1128
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,960
was serious about that. That was
great. He's also a huge part of

1129
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:36,720
that. Come on, be real, they'll tell HP basketball that who maybe

1130
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,159
on the podcast next month who.
I got into a link argument with on

1131
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,239
X who apparently doesn't know who Paul
George is and is saying the biggest thing

1132
01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:54,359
they'd lose from him is his leadership
and being a connection. This is a

1133
01:27:54,399 --> 01:27:58,880
good point by Michael Yun. PG
would get to catch and cook fish in

1134
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,039
Orlando. Oh, great fishing out
there. That's a good point. Great

1135
01:28:02,079 --> 01:28:08,800
point. Oh a point. So
back to the KCP thing that takes them

1136
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:14,359
out of the PG running. So
I don't think they're signing Paul George that

1137
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,920
basically takes them do it? Are
we sure they still wouldn't have enough?

1138
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:23,520
How much is that per year?
Yeah? I guess so cap and it's

1139
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:28,439
a player option on the third year. So I don't. I don't they

1140
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,640
When I looked yesterday, I believe
they had they had just about enough to

1141
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,600
get to get a Max Max Yeah. So yeah, they don't have seventy

1142
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,359
to get both of them or something
like that right play with, So they

1143
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:47,479
only seventy is Philadelphia, who I
believe has sixty five million dollars in cap

1144
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,720
space. But they also you also
got to remember, like they it's because

1145
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,520
everyone is off the books. So
there, you know, they can do

1146
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,720
one big signing and then they still
have to fill out a roster. Well,

1147
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,479
they are about to re sign Maxie, but they can do that because

1148
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,319
they have his bird rights also to
go over the cap. So they're fine,

1149
01:29:06,319 --> 01:29:10,119
and that's what they could pay Drummond. What does this say about the

1150
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:15,000
Paul George situation though that Orlando this
quickly after free agency said okay, we're

1151
01:29:15,079 --> 01:29:18,560
using our money. They seem to
know they at least were out of it.

1152
01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:23,520
They might know where he's They also
just maybe weren't willing to take that

1153
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:28,479
big of a swing, like those
owners are a cheap owner base, and

1154
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:31,880
you know, like it's possibility that
you know they would they would like the

1155
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:36,159
Paul George thing and from talent,
it's a great perspective. But if you're

1156
01:29:36,319 --> 01:29:41,520
staring down the barrel of four years
for two D and twelve, but what

1157
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,359
if he takes less now for Orlando, I don't think he's taken less for

1158
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,399
Orlando that much less, yeah,
because it would have to be it'd be

1159
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:53,479
what four for two hundred, you
know, like twelve like twelve million less?

1160
01:29:54,039 --> 01:29:56,760
Like I don't. I don't see
him taking less than that. I

1161
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,880
mean perfectly. And the Sixers are
better than the Magic, so going to

1162
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:02,359
they're the best teams, it's an
easier path. And he, like I

1163
01:30:02,399 --> 01:30:09,159
said, there's easily two players better
that more are expected from than him on

1164
01:30:09,319 --> 01:30:13,800
the roster, which is seemingly the
situation that he wants. So it's down

1165
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,600
to Clippers or sixers. Unless the
Utah Jazz have this outside shot. There

1166
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,039
was a report earlier they could they
have the space, he would thrive.

1167
01:30:21,359 --> 01:30:25,600
I will go on record right now
and saying that, I think of all

1168
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,960
the people that I can think of, I think Paul George would thrive in

1169
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:33,279
Utah. I think he would do
great there. There's no pressure. They

1170
01:30:33,359 --> 01:30:36,399
love basketball, but like dude,
it's Utah. I don't know. Man,

1171
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,079
their fans when they're good, are
pretty good, be fine. I

1172
01:30:40,119 --> 01:30:43,159
think Paul George, he's he's an
odd duck, and I think he would

1173
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:46,960
thrive in Utah, fish in the
Salt Lakes, whatever whatever they do up

1174
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:55,520
there. Yeah, I think he
would drive in Utah. Ex Mango Project

1175
01:30:55,600 --> 01:31:00,600
is asked Skin about Moe Wagner.
So he was released by the Magic,

1176
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,479
but it seems like they're trying to
work out a deal. So is he

1177
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,439
available? Technically, yes, he
is, he is not under contract,

1178
01:31:10,279 --> 01:31:13,720
but I don't I don't know if
the Magic are trying to trying to take

1179
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,239
him back. I don't see him
being a real upgrade over Mason Plumley.

1180
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,520
Really, I would like. He's
younger. He's younger, he is good.

1181
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:27,840
I mean, he's he he's a
he makes more sound decisions for sure.

1182
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,439
Yeah, it would be an upgrade. That's he could be a prick

1183
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:36,680
too, and the Clippers need the
Clippers need a dickhead. I think they

1184
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:42,800
need a PAP and they get back
because I'd be all for it. What

1185
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,600
does KPJ mean for Bones? Though
it's a two way contract, I don't

1186
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,520
think it means anything for Bones.
I think he has to have a I

1187
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:55,960
hope they have to play him in
summer league. They have, he's on

1188
01:31:56,039 --> 01:32:00,000
a two way. It's a minimum
fifteen percent trade kicker. So like,

1189
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:06,359
so he and Kyle Jones might be
wrecking people in the G League. Yeah,

1190
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,840
or they move him, yeah,
like because I I just think I

1191
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:15,840
mean people people in the in the
chat rightly pointing out that KPJ is a

1192
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,359
dickhead much like Mel Wagner. We're
not trying to add not different. Yeah,

1193
01:32:21,319 --> 01:32:27,039
ideally you get that. We're talking. Oh yeah, sorry, it's

1194
01:32:27,039 --> 01:32:31,640
a yeah, it's a minimum contract. But they still got no. Yeah,

1195
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,479
that was my bad. They still
got to have him played summer league

1196
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:39,119
because he hasn't played against NBA competition. I don't think Bones is going to

1197
01:32:39,159 --> 01:32:42,680
play summer League. I don't think
he has He shouldn't have to play summer

1198
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,760
League. He should just probably be
tried out in the beginning. No,

1199
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,479
so I think I don't know.
I don't think KPJ means anything for Bones

1200
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,239
A fair point. Yeah, it's
not. I would like to say,

1201
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:06,000
I totally understand that side of it. I hope you're consistent if you believe

1202
01:33:06,039 --> 01:33:09,720
this stuff and don't have like Tyreek
Hill and your fantasy team or something.

1203
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,560
I just hope you're If that's how
you feel about it, I totally understand.

1204
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:19,039
So it's going to be polarizing,
and as do the Clippers bring in

1205
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:23,600
another backup point guard to challenge Bones
to maybe try and have a competition.

1206
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:30,520
We have enough guards. Stop to
be gone? Existence is he they're trying

1207
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,079
to faciliated, They're trying to facilitate
the trade. Well, let me know

1208
01:33:33,119 --> 01:33:38,600
when it's done. That's James Harden. It's done. That's four dudes.

1209
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,359
That's three guys. It's three guys. It's I don't want to see anyone

1210
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,279
challenge Bose. I want Bones.
Did you hate the job? I'm saying,

1211
01:33:45,359 --> 01:33:51,600
but do you think they do job? That's actually that's why to challenge

1212
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:59,119
him. Those guys are boys.
I want Bones to be in the same

1213
01:33:59,159 --> 01:34:02,359
position he was in that same place
he was where everybody, to a man

1214
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:08,399
said he impressed them most during training
camp than any other player on the team.

1215
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,439
It was Bones Highland and he knew
he had the starting backup job because

1216
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,760
when he has training camp with Barden
and Bones the development off the charts.

1217
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:21,159
That's a great call. I'm all
about that first full training camp for James

1218
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:26,880
to have with the Clippers too.
Oh, this is a move that I

1219
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,720
like actually from Junction. Bring back
kJ Martin on the men. Yeah,

1220
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:36,760
bring the young athletic guy at the
four back, but Tomb first. Oh

1221
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:45,800
yeah, but Tom back on a
minimum if they get as the Batons or

1222
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:53,640
both available. Yeah. There.
The BA Tombs are royalty and if they

1223
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:58,279
come back to l A, they
will be treated as such. I will

1224
01:34:58,399 --> 01:35:01,479
root for France against Team USA this
summer. If a Tomb comes back,

1225
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:09,159
I don't know about that. I
will go underdogs. Oh yeah, we

1226
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:13,520
haven't talked about this. We didn't
talk about this on the pod. Brandon

1227
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:18,479
Boston Junior're no longer a Clipper seemingly, Uh, it kind of sucks,

1228
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:24,079
but it's not a huge surprise.
He just didn't develop. He didn't develop.

1229
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:29,159
It seems like there was I think
he seems like there were some issues

1230
01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:33,079
too, like with him being willing
to change his role and uh and some

1231
01:35:33,159 --> 01:35:36,439
stuff like that. There was just
no development over multiple years. So what

1232
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:41,279
do you do. I I had
drafted guys. Yeah, he was somewhat

1233
01:35:41,359 --> 01:35:46,000
a victim of circumstance of the Clippers
just in this era not developing young guys.

1234
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:51,960
And there's somewhat of a failure there
because the lack of opportunity, there

1235
01:35:53,079 --> 01:35:56,079
was no way to find out anything
about Brandon Boston who he can be in

1236
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:58,560
this league. To be honest,
like, I think we saw enough.

1237
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:01,479
I gotta be honest with man,
I think we saw enough well. I

1238
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:05,159
wouldn't be surprised if some team has
him as a solid role player backup.

1239
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:09,840
I wouldn't be surprised if that he
ended up there in his career. Yeah,

1240
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,399
at some point. And again,
the development when you're on a team

1241
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:16,000
that the goals are a championship,
it's difficult to get that development, especially

1242
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:20,880
with the glut of guards. I
want to give a shout out to Scott

1243
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:26,359
Trand for pointing this out. kJ
Martin was the only Clipper player in the

1244
01:36:26,399 --> 01:36:33,159
schedule release video. I believe last
season or the season. This is yeah,

1245
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,920
it's absolutely pandering to me. I
appreciate this. It's insane. It's

1246
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,000
so funny. He took that basketball
to Chick fil A and that's what they

1247
01:36:42,039 --> 01:36:47,399
did. I don't know anything else. How are we feeling. We're just

1248
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:53,119
waiting on this Paul George stuff.
Hardened news was shockingly pleasant. That's so

1249
01:36:53,319 --> 01:37:00,000
great after sort of an uncertain start
to the like free agency in the offseas

1250
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:03,159
and uh, just a just a
huge sire relief. That is a great

1251
01:37:03,239 --> 01:37:08,840
domino to fall, very team friendly
deal, and it gives the Clippers a

1252
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,079
lot more parability in terms of what
they want to do. Do they want

1253
01:37:12,119 --> 01:37:15,520
to move somebody? Are they willing
to massets to try to get to try

1254
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,359
to raise the talent ceiling? Do
they want to try to get under the

1255
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:21,800
tax maintain a little bit more maneuverability. See what they could do mid season

1256
01:37:23,079 --> 01:37:27,960
or possibly a year from now.
I just keep thinking about how they can

1257
01:37:28,079 --> 01:37:31,159
realistically get under the first apron with
Kawhi and James Harden on the team.

1258
01:37:32,319 --> 01:37:39,960
That's interesting. That's that's the front
office doing some work. That's good stuff

1259
01:37:40,039 --> 01:37:45,000
for sure. I don't know should
we I feel like we should call it.

1260
01:37:46,199 --> 01:37:49,720
We're all waiting on Paul George.
We'll go live when the Paul George

1261
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:56,840
thing happens at some point. Yeah, I don't see. I don't see

1262
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,680
much else materializing. Klay Thompson is
looking at Dallas, he's looking at the

1263
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,359
Lakers, he's looking at the Clippers. That's one report that's out there.

1264
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:06,600
Ye Will, did we get your
thoughts on Clay? No? Thank you,

1265
01:38:09,079 --> 01:38:14,880
Okay, zero interest. He was
he was bere he fell out of

1266
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,720
the starting lineup for a very thin, much worse team than the Clippers last

1267
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,920
season. I'm I'm good. That
was so funny. No, thank you,

1268
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:30,439
thank someone. I wouldn't hate it
on the mid level, but I

1269
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:35,000
get it. There's reason to believe
that he's certainly lost a few steps.

1270
01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:42,279
Yeah, I think that's I just
think the fit is really good, like

1271
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:46,119
really good on the second replace to
replace Paul George. I'm not saying he's

1272
01:38:46,119 --> 01:38:48,760
not insane. He's no, no, no, no no no. I

1273
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:54,880
don't mean he's like they're the same
level of talented team. I mean at

1274
01:38:55,239 --> 01:39:00,159
fit next to James and next to
Kawhi because of his shot profile, like

1275
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:08,000
it's pretty dark good like DeRozan.
You can make the argument is the more

1276
01:39:08,079 --> 01:39:13,680
talented player, but fit wise might
not be as good as Clay because he

1277
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,239
doesn't. Yeah, I think the
DeRozan is a terrible fit. Yeah,

1278
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:23,600
I don't like the fidd mid range
guy with mid we can't have two mid

1279
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:28,479
range guys. I love the vibes. We're not talking. I'm not talking

1280
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:32,079
about the hangs. I'm sure the
kickbacks are gonna be. He's also looking

1281
01:39:32,119 --> 01:39:35,319
the has. He's a player.
He's a player I love to watch as

1282
01:39:35,319 --> 01:39:39,039
well. I just you know,
if we're not contenders. Yeah, so

1283
01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:41,479
if it, if it did happen, I wouldn't be like mad about it,

1284
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,880
but I I I said, I
wouldn't kick it out of bed.

1285
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:47,680
No, but like like objectively,
like if I'm if I'm, if I'm

1286
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,560
working in the front office, it's
from a fit perspective, it, you

1287
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,560
know, it doesn't make a whole
lot of sense to me. And if

1288
01:39:55,600 --> 01:40:00,640
we're not but if we're not contenders, the hangs should be good, right,

1289
01:40:00,399 --> 01:40:05,680
Yeah, Oh, I think that's
fair. All right, So I

1290
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:12,039
think we're calling this until next time, which might be tomorrow. Of course,

1291
01:40:12,119 --> 01:40:16,600
tonight or tonight. We work every
day now, yeah, we do

1292
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:24,479
work. Uh, but yeah,
thanks for everyone for hanging out. Here's

1293
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,239
to the Clippers, maybe getting under
the first apron. Maybe Paul George comes

1294
01:40:28,319 --> 01:40:30,880
back on a three for one fifty
deal. We all go to the cackle,

1295
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:35,680
which is exactly what I'm doing for
ten seconds when that stream starts.

1296
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:40,359
If it's less than three for one
fifty, I'm I'm actually quite happy.

1297
01:40:41,159 --> 01:40:44,319
If it's less than three for one, sister fifty, I'm burning things down

1298
01:40:44,359 --> 01:40:46,560
in a joyous way. Yeah,
well, what's happening if he goes to

1299
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,760
Philly for three and one fifty?
What happens then? Yeah, I already

1300
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,840
told you. I tagged you.
I tagged you on Twitter. Do uh?

1301
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,199
I tagged you. There's a guy
who lives a ten minute walk from

1302
01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:00,439
the beach. He says, got
a bag of Paul George stuff. Perfect,

1303
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,199
check your men perfect. Thanks for
hanging out. You can find the

1304
01:41:03,279 --> 01:41:08,960
podcast uh anywhere you find podcasts.
Thanks checking out on YouTube and this will

1305
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,319
be out in the audio form later. So yeah, sorry, I was

1306
01:41:11,399 --> 01:41:15,399
late. I was watching the fourth
of July in the theater on the fourth

1307
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,920
of July. Wow, let me
let me ask you something before we get

1308
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,720
out of here. What's the threshold
for getting us back on a pod tonight?

1309
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,680
Like if they did bring in Clay, is that are we podcasting?

1310
01:41:28,119 --> 01:41:30,279
Like? What type of player is
it gonna take? Text me when the

1311
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:36,239
when the Levine deal happens? What
the Levine deal happens? Oh yeah,

1312
01:41:36,279 --> 01:41:40,760
wait real quick, let's each give
our prediction for what we think happens before

1313
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,800
the end of tonight. Adam,
what do you what's a weird thing that

1314
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:47,079
you think happens. Uh, I
don't know about a weird thing. I'm

1315
01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:51,119
still in the camp of it's probably
more likely than not that Paul George goes

1316
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:56,079
to Philadelphia. But I wouldn't be
shocked if he came back to the Clippers

1317
01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:00,039
because he loves He's a whole body. He's on the PS five. I

1318
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:03,640
don't think he can bring on Patrick
Patterson. Don't we already have like sixteen

1319
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:10,319
rostered guys we could cut. If
PG comes back on three for one and

1320
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,319
we have to cut somebody, we'll
bring by Patrick Patterson. He can host

1321
01:42:13,399 --> 01:42:15,960
movie nights. Yeah, he had
good movie takes. All right, Will,

1322
01:42:16,039 --> 01:42:19,000
what's your weird thing? What's your
prediction for before the end of the

1323
01:42:19,079 --> 01:42:29,800
night, I don't know. PG
finally makes a decision but doesn't announce it

1324
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,720
for a couple more days. I
like that. That's a good call.

1325
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,319
Yeah, I think PG. Yeah, I think PG says he has a

1326
01:42:35,359 --> 01:42:39,960
decision, but he's announcing it on
the pod this pod. No, I'm

1327
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,520
just kidding, it'll be on podcast. Be all right, we're headed out

1328
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,000
of here. Hope every when has
a good rest of your night. Here's

1329
01:42:45,079 --> 01:42:49,039
to some work getting done tomorrow because
I don't know how much is going to

1330
01:42:49,079 --> 01:42:51,600
get done. As always, thanks
for hanging out and