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the first good news of the Clippers free agency, right Adham, is
that at James Harden's coming back on a two year, seventy million dollar contract.
It's a player option on the second year. I feel if PG walks,
the Clippers can get under the first Apron with this signing James Harden.
I have no idea why he did this, if I'm being totally, but
I'm very happy he did. Shout out James Harden, Shout out the Clippers.
This is a great piece of business. I don't know, Adam,
your thoughts. If you're chatting, let us know your thoughts too. The
only thing I could think is he really values being at home and being a
Clipper and appreciates them going out and getting him away from Philadelphia last season.
Because this is definitely team friendly, This is definitely cat friendly people. This
is very unexpected. We were talking about James Harden on a three for one
twenty three for one hundred, maybe three for one fifty if things go crazy.
But this deal with the new cap stuff, and there are people saying,
you know, they didn't really want it or whatever, but two years
under the first apron possibilities, this is as good as the Clippers were gonna
get. How much worse would you feel if you signed for three for one
twenty right, that would feel a lot worse now that we've seen two for
this. I don't know now that we've seen this, but originally I was
expecting that I would have been fine with it. Now you get two years
seventy with a player option on the back end, which means so James Harden
age wise, he's at thirty four. He's gonna turn thirty five when the
season starts because his birthday is August twenty six, so he'll be thirty five
throughout the entire season. Is he expecting then if he has a big year,
he's gonna opt out and get one more three year contract or something like
that. I'm fine with that too. It's it's similar to a Blake Snell
contract with the Giants, which just happened this past year. It's like it's
a prove it type contract, the one and one to where you can then
go out if you have a huge year and try to get paid even more.
If he has a huge year, I don't think anybody's complaining about that
as a Clipper fan. And if I was gonna say, if he has
a huge year, that means that the starting point guard who logged more minutes
than any of our other starting point guards who are at his level, played
really well. This makes me want to put on my Clippers hat. Hold
on, no, this feels good. This is I don't know if you're
in the chat, yeah, team for thank you, Anthony Lutie, team
friendly deal twenty five mil under the first apron. If Paul George leaves like
this, this is also the reality of the new cap. This is what's
weird about the new cap is acs cap right here, Clippers cap is as
fans we need to and it's an adjustment. It's been adjustment for me,
it's been adjustment for everyone covering the team. The benefits of the cap flexibility
are even more so than what flexibility on the old cap was because of how
hard this really shitty cap scenario is. So like Anthony Lucie's talking about it
like this plays a part and the Clippers not blinking with PG threatening to go
right, Like if everybody thinks that this is some shock to the Clippers front
office that Paul George was not going to opt in and be a part of
a side in trade and actually end up at this point where he became a
free agent. I'm telling you they've had a plan in place. They knew
all the chess pieces that were on the table. They were very aware this
could happen, right, and they're not going to be taken by surprise and
not have a backup plan. Or maybe they had to read on this that
it was likely going to happen and this is their number one plan. Because
making this deal with James Harden before we even know what's happening with Paul George,
that might speak to that. Yeah, this, uh, I feel
good about this. This is the most optimistic I've felt about the Clippers offseason
specifically. I mean, the Cam Christie pick is cool if you're a freak
who wants to watch forty six pick draft guys develop, But like this is
I don't again. I don't know why James Harden did this freak, but
big thank you to James Harden. Hey, I mean, if Paul George
walks, that's a pain in the ass. But the Clippers would be under
the first apron, possibly with a bunch more actual flexibility. It's doable.
It's not crazy, not to mention aside from the cap issues and the flexibility
this frees up for them and the real possibility and likely possibility that they can
get under the first apron, which means you get a thirteen million dollar non
taxpayer mid level exception as opposed to the taxpayer mid level exception which is only
five million dollars, which is what they've been having over the years to play
with, which means all those restrictions of not being able to trade guys in
aggregate, worrying about the twenty thirty two pick being frozen and being at number
thirty, all that stuff's out the window, and you have a lot more
options than possibilities for your future now, even a future where they still don't
have a first round pick till twenty thirty. But aside from all that,
we don't got to bring that up. I want to bring up how the
Lakers and maybe James Harden could have made a run of Lakers and Lebron James
couldn't make a run at James Harden, they could have. Yeah that it
seemed like they were wanted to target him with like an exception, which is
not thirty five million dollars a year. Chunk Sampson has asked multiple times what
are the possibilities Now? The possibilities are, we're under that first apron,
we get the big exception, like Adam just talked about. You see what
Royce O'Neil just went for. Things like that, You can get guys in
that category who are very helpful off the bench and can really solidify a lineup.
So we just get more actual flexibility. I can't believe if you would
have told me twenty four hours ago, if you would have told me six
hours ago that the Clippers were gonna probably be under the first apron. Yes,
losing Paul George for nothing is not ideal, but there are some positives
with this new apron stuff. I would have been a static. I would
have said we lost Paul George, we kept James Harden under the first apron.
Now, somehow they can be. Yeah, they can be. Excuse
me, yes, it's hard to be not at least whelmed with what the
Clippers have done so far, and take into account this is Chuck saying this,
not someone who may be compromised like myself being this Charles Mockler. Meanwhile,
I know or my bread is buttered, and I still try to be
it is possible the case. Uh I can I smoke weed them? I
don't know if I can. California, you do whatever you want. I
don't know if that's the take YouTube. I feel great, I'm I don't
know. This is a move. It's it's funny too, and I don't
want to get too deep in the weeds on this, but it's nice to
see a superstar in LA maybe take a little less money to help the team
win. Kauh I already did it. Sure, Let's not forget what Kawhi
Leonard said after his deal went through the first game. Afterwards post game,
they asked him about it, and he said, at that time, in
January, it was something to the effect of, well, yeah, pretty
much everybody's coming back, so we all assumed at that time the big three
were going to return. That means James Harden to RUSS fans, that means
Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. I'm never gonna fault somebody though. If Paul
George ends up signing for the max with the Philadelphia seventy six ers, for
getting paid and getting the four year deal, and he athlete can get as
much should get as much as you know you're worth what someone will pay you.
That's the old lie. And if that's what he's going for, and
it's not like he's leaving one situation where he could win a ring for another
situation where it's a rebuilding process or anything like that. If he leaves to
go to Philly, they also have a chance to win a ring there,
So he's not sacrificing the competitive spirit part of it or anything like that.
He can have his cake and eat it too if he goes to Philly.
Yeah, And I mean, I mean, I'm not going to fault him
for that. I did tell I was I had a baseball game earlier that
I played in and I have friends on that team who are big Phillies fans
or seventy six Ers fans, and they said, what's the big deal with
giving Paul George the Max contract, and I said, talk to me in
eight months and we'll see how you feel about Paul George with the Max contract.
Paul George himself getting the Max contract. Go for it. No one,
no one watching, listening talking, would ever take a pay cut out
of principle. I just don't no disrespect that. I don't know. I
want to speak for you, but I'm about taking pay cuts if someone's offering
me money, if the hometown discount or him giving them a hometown discount isn't
enough, because you're talking about the difference of like forty five fifty million dollars.
I get it. That's a huge number. That's a huge difference.
And I certainly get from the Clippers side too, especially now that James Harden
is only on a two year deal. He's only on a two year deal.
So the idea of lining up all three on three years on three year
contracts, that's already out the window. This is a new development what we
just saw with the one on one with James Harden. Yeah, it's a
new and it's also this is I think this is a kind of contract we
can expect to see with the new Apron as we can see guys taking these
deals where it's maybe less to help the two right, like because Lebron might
take way less money or a max So like we're in this new weird Oh
uh, this very fair question, Mike Dang. If you're new to the
pod, it's usually Adam, myself and Will Updike. Will is unavoidably detained
because we are We do sometimes do things that are not this podcast. He
might pop in, he might not. We'll figure it out. But right
now we're celebrating James Harden. I'm choosing to celebrate this. This is a
level of cap optimism that none of us had before twenty minutes ago or whatever
the hell it was, And it makes losing Paul George, probably losing Paul
George for nothing, an easier pill to swallow. Can you put up the
Eric comment? The jazz just waived Omar, you're at seven now? Why
would the jypnahib easy? Wendy Eric shout out? Lol? Whf Eric go
follow him on Twitter and Instagram right now, wonderful art. I love Eric.
This is not true. If his decisions were always basketball first, he
wouldn't have had a problem with Philly doing him dirty like that. Or just
he would have taken whatever that contract was from them. He clearly likes being
a Clipper, He clearly likes being in LA. The money has mattered to
him. This is a guy who turned down one hundred and sixty million before
with the Brooklyn Nets because he thought he could get more. So money has
been a factor until this point. Apparently this is the turning point for James
Harden, truly the Clippers. I give him all the credit in the world
for making this. Yes, he had a problem with being lied to in
Philly, but again I just went back even further than that. He turned
down one sixty with the brooklyn Nets to try to get more money. Like,
money has mattered to him, It very much has until now. Until
now, so some type of culture, some type of uh maybe he's really
into the into it dome. He's excited for that, but they're selling him
on something more than just the dollar signs here, absolutely, and some people
I just put a great primer on the on the signing from Robert Flamm of
two and three hoops in there, you could maybe point that like, oh,
maybe it's an overpay or whatever. At thirty five million a year.
Jamalda Rosen's making. You want to talk about an overpay, that's an overpay
for what I love og Anobe. He just got two hundred million for what
Harden brings to this team in terms of durability, total minutes, all that
stuff that the Clippers have desperately needed. On this deal, It's like,
it's it's hard to be mad at it, even if you hate James Harden.
He didn't hamstring. He helped the Clippers cap situation, which again surprising,
I'll take it. It's hard to be really upset at this steal.
All things consider, it does open up more sign and trade possibilities for the
Clippers. I don't know who those guys are there signing and trading. Who's
a Clipper free agent that they're gonna do? Iscide you're saying, you're saying
coming from the other side, because if you could absorb a sign and trade
from another team, if you're under the first apron, because you can only
do that as the team receiving the player. Uh, if you're under the
first apron, because it will hard cap you. Right, So it's a
possibility. I still think it's it's difficult to pull off a sign in trade
Today's NBA. We talked about it recently, but we believe Kevin Durant might
have been the last one. So twenty nineteen, it's just become, you
know, a fossilized maneuver, and so far its petrified. Would another thing
that people need to trade exceptions? Trade exceptions mean nothing. They're not used
like ninety five percent of the time. So don't let anyone try and talk
you into a trade exception being the nice thing for the Clippers if there's a
PG sign in trade thing. Now I'm wondering we have we have point guard
one locked up, we have James Harden locked up. Now are we in
the same boat of who is point guard two? Because because too mayras arly
wonderful Clippers reporter reported that Russ was not going to be on the team.
Russ opted in that what to May reported can still very much happen. But
now are we going to be stuck? Excuse me? Are we going to
have russ is live as the backup one? Because it doesn't work. We
know it doesn't work. It's not optimal for a team that desperately needs an
injection of youth. I love Russell Westbrook and you can argue that he might
be the most athletic player on the team. He's even as he's going to
be thirty six. But guys, he's bottom five in efficiency at the rim
and bottom five at efficiency from the outside. He's not good in the mid
range. You could call him a zero level scorer at this point. I
don't know what it is with his finishing ability at the rim and why it
changed so much, because his hands are pretty mangled if you see them in
person, like a lot of the guys are later on in their careers.
Jordan's hands, who has a finger that's sticking way out the other way.
I don't know what it is. But his touch at the rim when he's
going a million miles per hour, it was never great, But yeah,
it's it's hatchet, not scalpel. And he's not able to finish consistently at
a high level at the rim. So even if he is athletic and can
get downhill and get to the rim, if you're not finishing and smoking layups
like that, guess what they turn into live ball turnovers going the other way.
That's what it has been over the past year. More often than not.
The amount of times that I counted a team getting a wide open three
and transition after Russell Westbrook is still on the floor because he went so hard
at the rim and can't get back and they have a five on four and
it's a disadvantage for the Clippers. Teams are scoring in those situations over and
over again. I love Russ, you know I'll be supporting him if he
is on the team, But if you're talking about optimizing this squad, one
of the big themes that we have mentioned on this podcast is there needs to
be a youth movement and how does that happen if you continue to hang on
to veterans who are past their prime. When you actually have a guy that
could be the backup point guard that thought he had the backup point guard job
going into last season in Bones Highland, When is that guy going to get
a true shot before he ends up leaving for nothing or you get a second
round pick for him. Do you not want to find out about the untapped
potential of the guy who just scored forty in a game where almost did last
year, who has had some really high moments. It granted limited time because
of the situation, but he has shown enough to me where the talent is
tantalizing enough. Those Lou Williams comparisons aren't meaningless. If the Clippers decide because
CP three waived, which is kind of crazy, I thought, I mean
thirty mils a lot. But if they bring in CP three and they don't
give Bones the backup, I will be genuinely furious isn't the right word,
but very annoyed at the Clippers because CP three has one year of maybe being
good and he was not good last year, and it should be both.
He was alright when he was somewhat healthy. I thought he was all right.
Honestly, I didn't think it was bad. Interesting Russ played twenty three
minutes a game. Can CP three give us twenty three minutes a game?
That's crazy? Well, if it was, we know who Bones is.
Enough with this bone stuff, all right, Gregory Elwood, tell me who
Bones is. You got the scouting report. Tell me he's not a top
tier player. We're not asking him to be a top tier player. We're
asking him to get you fifteen to five a night coming off the bank.
H He very well maybe capable of that. He was averaging sixteen points per
game the first four games of last season in efficient sixteen points per game before
the James Harden rumors and before he was replaced. Don't tell me we know
who Bones is at this point. I'm sorry, we don't. He hasn't
nearly enough time. He is not effective. Really, a guy who has
hit three pointers on high volume that can stretch the floor is not effective.
Where are we are just talking? He just happened. Sorry, we are
not here for the bs, are we not? Where are we out on
the Klay Thompson thing? Because I don't know if the Clippers can offer as
much as the MAVs or the Lakers, because right now the Clippers do not
have an exception I believe to offer Klay Thompson. Denver didn't want him because
he and Jamal Murray do not work on the court. Two small guys like
that. Do you guys understand that I'm still arguing with people about Bones.
It's like they have no frame of reference here. Really, let it go,
all right, Klay Thompson. To get him, I think you'd have
to get under the first apron to offer that full mid level exception right just
to get in the ballpark. I believe so. Yeah, Because then you're
saying thirteen million. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if Clay's
coming here. I just it just doesn't This isn't scuttle, But you know
what I'm saying, I don't think we have the money. I don't think
we have anything for him to you know what I mean. I would tend
to think he's going to be a Laker based upon Michael Thompson, his dad,
and there have been rumors out there really for a damn decade that if
he ever leaves Golden State, he'll end up being a Laker. Now,
I would say this if it wasn't for and I'm still kind of reeling from
this. It's hard to wrap my head around the unfortunate passing of Jerry West.
That's the guy who held onto him at Golden State and made sure he
stayed there and he wasn't traded for Love. He was the one who was
rumored to put his foot down that Clay's the perfect match next to Steph Curry.
Obviously he was right and prophetic in that back in twenty fourteen. Who
was talking about this twenty fifteen, when when Kevin Love was a monster putting
up Moses Malone type numbers on the Timberwolves. It was Jerry West who knew
that the best guy to play next to Steph Curry was not pairing him with
a big. It was evolving and playing smaller and playing out on the perimeter
and floor spacing. And that's Klay Thompson, who I think is the best
spot up shooter ever. Steph's the best overall shooter ever because he does it
off the bounce. More, that's Jerry West in a nutshell, just seeing
being ahead of everyone. Yeah, so Clay not coming to the Clippers,
it doesn't seem like I don't think it's off the table completely. Yeah,
I really won't. But they have first things for you'd have to get it
to the first apron, right. So also, we are twenty nine minutes
into the free agency. There was the Chris Haynes tweet if anybody missed it,
that what was it? The Sixers? He tweeted it at MMM.
He tweeted that at I'm losing my damn mind. Where the hell is it?
Oh? Yeah? Two hours ago, Chris Haynes tweeted Leach Report sources
there's growing optimism of Philadelphia seventy six ers will land Paul George and free agency
those two hours ago. There's been some scuttle buck coming in a lot of
people chatted this at us patom is not returning to the Sixers, Yeah,
bring the tune back on a minimum? Could that sway Paul George one way
or the other since he was just talking about losing Nicholas patubad Rogo. Paul
George definitely doesn't have a plan B, so I could totally see that happening.
Am I wrong? Think? Do you think it's over at this point?
Or what percentage chance to see him returning to the Clippers right now?
Oh? Man, I'm fifteen maybe like nothing. If it's if it's the
matter of an extra year which the Clippers don't want to give them and the
Sixers want to give it that it's just I don't know, fifteen maybe less.
I'll go a little bit above that. I'll say like twenty one and
three. Yeah, because because of what like Paul George, I do think
he's someone that values being home in Palmdale a lot. I do think that's
very meaningful to him. I do think being next to his parents, having
them easily at every game, it's what you can always say, Well,
they could just flow them all over the place. Yeah, they're not going
to want to do that and just be away from home all the time,
traveling with their son. It's one thing to go to games and be able
to go home right afterwards. It's not the same. I think, you
know, family matters, especially at this point. Not to bring up the
Drake Kendrick. We all know what side we're on. We're on the winning
side. We're the LA team. We're on Kendrick's side. Oh yeah,
I said. Carlo Amitt has asked me this on the air when the beef
was starting to percolate early on. I'm like, oh, I got k
dot. He's a twenty something, so that makes sense. Well, I'm
interested in that's that storyline. Rock brought up a good point. What's the
point of being under the apron and still reaching for older one year retirement guys?
This is that's a great point for guys like Bones and things like that.
They need chances. The young guys need chances. Yes, if we
have thirteen million to give to a four who can be great? Depth do
that? I mean old backup points. I'm tired of that. Well,
if you're saying CP three you don't like that, I don't put Klay Thompson
in that category. No, I yeah, I don't think Rock does either,
but I would, I mean Clay would, Clay would be helpful.
I do think Clay has enough left because, first of all, he gives
effort defensively always. He's not who he was coming off the a c on
in the Achilles tear. He's taking the biggest dip in his play on that
end, but shooting is the last thing to go, and he is still
a good fit, especially on offense on that end to help stretch the floor.
And I think part of his numbers at times being really up and down
the past year were the presser of the contract and the looming decision when he
is a legacy guy up north with the Golden State Warriors, I think that
was weighing heavily on him. He's an emotional guy. I love his personality.
I have loved Clay Thompson forever, back when he got caught smoking weed
and Washington, Washington State people made such a big deal about that, which
sounds ever. Have you ever been to Pullman? Uh? No, just
Oregon Eugene, which also does Pullman sucks. Pullman is a horrible city.
So smoking weed there makes total sense. Someone was asking us on Twitter if
this means the Clippers can sign Hartenstein and if they give them an except if
they give them thirteen and a half million dollar exception, they could. I
don't think that's gonna be enough. I also don't, but I mean,
that's that's what they got. That would be awesome. That would be fun
to write that wrong. That would be amazing. But wasn't he just making
ten million something last year? Yeah? With the Knicks the Thunder, Yeah,
Thunder is the team. I think that's going to get him. It's
the perfect fit and it makes them very very very difficult to beat because then
ship doesn't have to worry about banging with that bird chest the d s.
Oh yeah, it sounds like, okay, sees in Oregon to meet with
Isaiah Hartenstein. Why is Isaiah Hartenstein in Oregon? Uh? Yeah, it
sounds like that's cooked. That's yeah, heart and Sign's not coming back.
I've thought that the entire time they're gonna end up with him, and it's
that's really a move. God that sucks for us. With with Alex Caruso
now who they didn't have to give up a first flour because Chicago, for
whatever reason, didn't ask or play enough hardball. Can I ask you this
because I put it in the text earlier today. Yeah, and then we
should answer this question from Carlos because this is a fair question that a lot
of people have. Okay, start with this then because okay, mine's more
out there. Carlos. Carlos Casino's asking, as a guy who doesn't know
much about contract talk, do we gain money with Paul George walking or is
it not till the next year that we get more money to sign someone.
So if Paul George walks, he opted out of that forty eight million dollars,
we don't have that forty eight mil. We can't just use that money
to pool and sign somebody for forty eight mil. It helps us with cap
relief and getting under the second apron, which getting under the separate a brind
gives you some exceptions. You canate people in trade, so you can trade
two seven and a half million dollar guys for one fifteen million dollar guy,
and your draft picks don't get frozen to be last no matter what happens.
So, yeah, fair question. It's very confusing. This salary cap is
asinine. It makes no sense that the owners agreed to it. Adam your
question, and we know Sizda one, it would be a long shot to
get out. I say a hard and steinback. Yeah, likely that could
happen. It would just be sweet if it did exactly Yeah, John of
Hey dazed and confused. Yeah, be a lot cooler if it did.
But that's whereat that that could happen. So I brought this up a little
bit earlier because there was a rumor out there in our little group chat that
Chicago is having such a hard time or so adamant about getting off the contract
with Zach Levine, which still has three more years. The last year is
a player option for forty eight million dollars. It goes forty five, forty
six, and then I think forty eight. It's not good that they're all
offering a first round pick with Zach Levine to try to get off of that
contract. What do we trade them? I think it starts around PJ.
Tucker because that's Hey, you're preaching to the choir. So yeah, I'm
trying. I'm trying to sell you on this move. I figure i'd start
there. So that's eleven million. Then I assume you'd have to include Russ.
That's five minutes. It feels like you're pander. This feels like a
panduring tray. I would love this if if what's it's Russ, it's PJ.
It's Norm for money Norm maybe to get his twenty million in there.
Now we're thirty five million dollars, thirty six million dollars, he's at forty
five. Is that within seventy five percent or whatever it needs to be.
It's closet a little extra if you get under I'm saying, yeah, so
you add a mire, Maybe you add a mere coffee. I'm not saying
Chicago is dysfunctional and poorly run funny, but I am saying they did not
get a first from the OKC thunder for Alex Caruso, who has seventeen first
round picks, and they still managed to not get a first somehow and just
did it straight up for Josh Giddy. You may be able to take advantage
of that situation. I know the injury history with Levine. I know it.
I know how bad it's been. I also have been a big fan
of his, going back to UCLA where he shot thirty eight percent from three
coming out of college and a lot of people didn't know that in his one
year there, and they just limited him to being a dunker because he was
in dunk contests early on. Well guess what now, he's a great shooter.
Now he's proven that and he's had to be a number one option at
times Zach Levine as a third option if healthy. I know it's a big
if, as it always is with the Clipper, But do we get the
pick right? Like the pick you can get a first round pick out of
it too, which could end up being a lottery pick because it's coming from
Chicago. That is not the worst thing the trade. Let me get on
fans bow right now, because I think the shot is pure shot. Also,
he's also from the Pacific Northwest, which you know real Hoopers also played
ball at u c L a real Hoopers up in the Pacific Northwest if you
know ball. Sorry, I'm fucking around on fans bow right now. So
you said, I guess we could screen show this if we wanted to,
and we have the technology. We have the power now. Also, for
those of you who've been on Twitter, and if you think that we've been
on Edge, it's just because people ask us to go live. Stop asking
us to do that. We'll go live when we go live. I don't
know I was to say it. Okay, so what do we got?
We got fired up? We got so, we got Zach Lavine, and
you said PJ. Tucker has the expiring Russ Westbrook as whatever, Norman Powell.
I do this a lot on the Bleacher Report things. Let's see.
I don't think this gets us well, okay, I don't think the Bulls
would do this, but it's within sparently. I don't think they would do
this, but if they're having this much trouble, they get an expiring from
PJ who they can stretch and wave. Russell Westbrook can be the backup to
Josh Giddy, which sounds like a point guard rotation that makes me want to
jump into traffic. And then you get Norm Powell who can who is a
good scoring off the bench basketball player. I don't know this would this would
be chaos, but I'd be down for us. It is, of course
risky with Zach Levine because of his injury history and because of the Clippers and
what they're already dealing with when it comes to guys staying healthy. We know
that guys. I've watched him to this to his point, To Guy Fieri's
point here, I have watched a ton of zach Lavine and there have been
times was like, why are you calling him guy? Where he is a
much better defender when he wants to be. Then he typically shows with the
analytics shows which are always tough to measure guys defensively based off the analytics because
it's such a team defense thing. Oh, something just happened. Jake Fisher
just reported. With Russell Westbrook having opted into his four million dollars for this
twenty four to twenty five season, the Clippers are now working to find a
trade for Westbrook. League of Courses, tell yeah, who sports? Well,
are they watching him live right now? Because we just put one up
there we have a great one. Yeah, and that didn't include the first
round pick. I just wonder how desperate do you have to be to offer
a first round pick? Will you take anything, including tech cap relief in
the form of sixteen million dollars based upon Westbrook and PJ. Tucker coming off
the books after this year, and then you have one more year of Norman
Powell, who would be an asset for them to trade on an expiring deal
for eighteen million dollars. Who is and should have been top three and six
Man of the Year voting and one of the most efficient guys off the bench
in the NBA. It's not nothing getting Norman Powell in there. No,
he's a very he's he doesn't he obviously doesn't. He does what lou Will
does minus to Pike and Rol, which is a very big thing that lou
Will did. Obviously, I'm not. I don't want to discredit Fair is
a much more efficient outside shooter than lou Will was. Yes, he can
create for himself better, but spot up norm is absolutely deadly. People like
your hat? Say you like my hat? Uh? Really? Hood?
I don't know how to pronounce this said, the starting power forward position needs
to be addressed very fair. Who is the starting four? Like, genuinely,
I don't who is the starting four dollars? You haven't brought up not
that he is the replacement or the starting four. But we haven't talked about
Demarta Rosen yet. I don't want to fit, dude. The fit with
him and Kawhi is brilliant. I get that. I just wouldn't. I
wouldn't hate it if you stagger him a lot with the second unit and play
more around him and feature him more there. That's not bad, as in,
he's the guy who comes out in the first four or five minutes in
the first quarter and then plays heavy minutes with the second unit. He is
taking more threes as of late. I'm not saying he's the starting power forward.
Aside from this starting power forward question, as we stall here, I
understand Damar because we're talking Chicago as well. It if you could get him
for thirteen million and it's a short contract, I'm not I'm probably not kicking
it out of bed. I'm probably not turning it down. The classic Musburger
that a Busburger line. There aren't a ton of options right for guys at
that salary that you would want. You talked about this yesterday. It's not
a robust market. It isn't so beggars can't be choosers either. I want
to point out I want to describe this as nasty that just came out,
and I think this is really annoying, and I'm I kind of want to
talk about it right now. It just happened. It's from a Brian Windhorse
thing. Apparently when they signed Kawhi Leonard to that deal. They never told
Paul George about it. This feels like spin from Paul George's camp to be
like, see this is why I'm leaving. Well, you know what the
Clippers did do for Paul George, sign all of his friends, sign every
point guard that he publicly asked for. Like, just at this point,
just go go to Philly. We're sorry we didn't tell you that Kawhi Leonard
signed a deal. You had to read about it in the paper the next
day. Just go, man, go get your extra year, get get
away. Am I wrong? Sorry? This is like this just feels so
spinny and so gross and again like someone who doesn't have a plan. B.
Sorry I went a little hard right there. But this I don't sign
off on all that, but I will say this, the spinny part,
I could see that based upon what La Murray said recently of how close Kawhi
Leonard and Paul George are, I find it somewhat hard to believe that he
had no idea whatsoever when he and Kawhi Leonard are boys to the level they
are hard to believe, right, Like, but I'm not going to say
just go to Pilly at this point, if he wants to come back on
a team friendly three year deal, I think it would still be nice to
have Paul George. Hey, Paul George coming back on three for one fifty.
It would be absolutely hilarious and it would just again go to show that
he was one of the most front of the face nothing out not step two
superstars of all time. It would be so the only word is hilarious.
If Paul George comes back on a team friendly deal, can we talk about
a lot. What's the best restaurant in Philadelphia that he's getting wined and dined
at? Just stay here? I was just in Philadelphia. I tried all
the cheese steaks. There's a good place called punk Burger, very underrated,
but I had a or the two big cheese steaks that I had them both
the same night as I arrived in Philadelphia. When I was there with photo
offs of the concert with Camber Obscura, I order both of them off of
door dash try to both pass was better and both were still mid It was
a mid off. Yeah, the brand is messed over here in Burbank is
better than what I had there. Have you been to Booze in silver Lake.
Everyone I know from Philadelphia who lives in LA says booze Philly cheese steak,
and silver Lake is the one to go. You get the whiz,
you maybe get a mushroom steak or something. I actually had it yesterday.
Should we go there? Paul George goes to Philadelphia and like pour one out
form or something like that. Oh hold on, ye I'm super down.
Chums just tweeted out, Uh, the Clippers are actively trying to move Russell
Westbrook. Yeah, great, they are watching. They're watching, guys,
they're here with us right now. Is in the room with us? Yeah,
Lawrence Frank, Yeah, Lawrence Franks are here. No, there's nothing
against russ. It's just about team building. It's just about sustainability. It's
about the future of the franchise. He's just not good at basketball anymore.
Yeah, this is I mean having I don't know if the Clippers may the
Clippers, so they already got hardened on a more team friendly deal than we
thought he was going to come on, which was going to be three for
one, twenty three for one hundred, whatever. This is a blessing.
Two for seventy is great. If we also move off of Russell Westbrook today
and get someone who can be more effective. This is a wonderful start to
the free agent They have someone Blones Highland. There's one on the team that's
already more effective. Oh, I want to take a quick because we are
going to put this out as audio. We're going to take a quick ad
break so we know where one of us has to put the ads in.
At forty ish minutes and we're back. If you're watching us on video,
you didn't You didn't see anything change. People are talking about Tobias Harris is
the starting four. We've been there. Uh No, I have no issue
with Tobias Harris. He was a great Clipper. They're also not last shot
was a game winner against Charlotte. They're also I don't want to get too
ahead of myself. We know what the rotation looks like right now. This
is a team that is maybe on the outside looking in of contender contender status.
I'm not saying they're not a good team. That's fair. I'm not
saying that they can't be top five whatever whatever, but at that top,
top, top tier. Having Tobias Harris ride out this era, you know,
the Kawhi Leonard Era whatever. Then we can start getting some picks and
whatnot. It wouldn't be the worst thing. But again, that's if you
have expectations for this team that are quasi based in reality and who is on
the team. Here's people's perception on Tobias Harris. That's off. I see
you do not want Tobias Harris. Lol. The difference of Tobias Harris making
forty million, like he was playing under the pressure of Philadelphia versus getting the
mid level exception now to be a fourth option or whatever with the Clippers is
night and day. You will get a different guy. You may get the
guy or closer to the guy you had with the Clippers. Were not gonna
hate on Tobias Harris like that because I know the Philadelphia situation was very unique.
And yeah, that pressure can break people. It can. It's insane
there they booed Santa Claus. They will destroy you. They will just tall
George, I'm sure is taking this into account, Like we have to be
aware Isy, Well, somebody at his camp needs to be Uh. Philadelphia
is unforgiving a lot of people asking where will is at. We gotta let
him know that the chat misses him. We have no idea what Will's doing.
He just said he wasn't at his house, which could mean anything.
It was also because Elton Brand kept him over Jimmy Butler. He was always
being compared to Jimmy Butler in Miami. That added to it as well.
It's be a totally different situation wherever he goes, and I wouldn't hate it.
No, I mean again, and we're in this We're not rebuilding,
but in this new cap of what the second Apron is, this is what
kind of not a full blown rebuild looks like. This is what this is
what it looks like. We don't have a lot of depth. We don't
as much as you love this team, people aren't knocking down the door to
trade for a bunch of guys that aren't Paul George anything like that. Like
this is kind of what the rebuild looks like. Scott, he said,
expectations a little bit, right. I think Scott trands one hundred percent right
too. He's gonna be like, I had no idea that Phil he was
so passionate. This is crazy, He'll say, I know, but I
didn't know. Yeah, He's gonna be like my welcome to the League moment
getting a triple A battery thrown at the windshield of my car. Yeah,
there's And also right now everyone's waiting on Paul, like, not just the
Clippers. Free agency itself is held up by PG Right, is that Adam
to some extent, I think he's the biggest guy out there. The first
domino to fall could set that he's the biggest piece for other players. Yeah,
if once he gets his money, it could tell you how everybody else
is going to be slotted in afterwards and what they're capable of getting. And
by the way, there was a report earlier today that Orlando is willing to
offer him the MAX as well. So the two teams no tax that are
competitive and have MAX money available that could bring him in easily, they are
reportedly offering him the max in Orlando and in Philadelphia. So for him to
come back to the Clippers on a three year he'd not be He wouldn't just
be turning down one team, he'd be turning down two for an extra fifty
sixty million dollars. That's I'm not going to blame him. If that's not
nothing, it's not nothing, So I do i I'll be we should be
transparent for some people. Junction is asking who are some mL targets you like,
we haven't looked that far ahead. Man, I'm really sorry. They
might not even had an extent, Yeah, Clay, I guess like they
haven't really had the the extend extension for me, they might not even if
Paul George returns, but we will have that. I think he's going to
the Lakers. Val Yeah, because what do you do is Zoo If we
get Valentina's well, I mean he's a backup. I would make him.
That would be great. And the Zoo extension. So there was a tweet
or no, there was something from the Jake Fisher article earlier today that the
Zoobots extension is like number three on their priority list or something like it's like
figure out the PG shit, figure out hard, and then the zoobots extension.
So I would not be surprised if we get some Zoobots extension news soon.
Ish Zoo casual will be, but we won't. He's been a top
five or protector for over five years. Guys, I don't I'm not just
one of the most valuable skills you can have in today's league. PreTect the
rim help Shanina out, what's the restaurant in Burbank? Billy's best off of
I believe all of Avenue. There's McDonald's near it. There's seven to eleven.
Let us know what you think. All three and then come back o
Park and we'll we'll we'll go to Booze and we can see what happens.
Shanina. Yeah, I'm I'm feeling pretty good. I don't know this,
like it's a weird and the two and three era might be over, but
the team friendly deal is nice, Like we might get rid of Russ.
I don't know what we trade Russ for seconds picks? What is a four
million dollars Russell Westbrook worth in the trade? Yeah? I mean that sincerely.
I don't could get them a young player, a young player with some
upside. That's probably what you're looking at. Wait, is forshizzled? But
diizzle Carl tarts Burner, Well, would y'all like Drummond as a backup?
He's gonna have to admit that is a great three point before I believe it's
Carl. Yeah, Drummond is a backup. See, I don't know,
man, I I uh yeah, Like I don't back up whatever Russ to
Denver and the Reggie Jackson tpe fuck it. I feel like Denver probably wouldn't
do it, but well, Denver wanted Russ. They were supposedly in on
Russ before he opted in was the report. But I cannot picture Russell Westbrook
playing within the system that Denver plays into. This is a great point from
Junction right here. We need to add some regular season merchants. This is
a phenomenal this You're one hundred percent correct. That was the issue with the
part of the depth we lost in that hardened trade is we didn't have guys
to throw in there and go get stocks or things like that. This is
a great point. They need innings eaters, not to use I hate when
you crossover sports metaphors, but that's why when people are talking about Julius Randall,
he's a regular season merchant. We all know that, like Brandon Ingram,
regular season merchant like those are the kind of guy. This is a
great point, and I think I hope that's what the Clippers are looking for.
I'm not giving up on brandon Ingram now that they could get below the
first apron. By the way, we're getting some more sandwich res which if
you have sandwich recks and so cal toss him in. Thank you, Jose
Bay City Sandwiches in Santa Monica, best spot. God, okay, good,
good to know. Thank you. Fire up the sandwich wars. Let's
go. Hey, no one loses in a sandwich war. No one's ever
lost in a sandwich war, because it just means more sandwiches. Still like
a headbut where everyone loses. As Paul Blart Ballkop said, yeah, I
don't, uh. Can I entice you with Brandon Ingram? Can I sell
you on that? I at my point would be this. I know he
has struggled in a playoff series recently. He like just turned twenty seven.
I believe he is just entering his prime and is a medi assassin and can
shoot from the outside his defense. Oh my god, Sorry, that was
not to you. That was just to a tweet that I saw that I
will show after you. I'm just saying with Ingram, you could be getting
a guy at the right time. Now you have to pay him after this
year, but it's it's a high ceiling play on a player that still has
untapped potential. Remember all the comparisons with him and Kevin Durant when he was
coming out of Duke Well. Nobody, that's completely unfair. Nobody's gonna be
Kevin Durant. But he may be like half forty, and that's still a
good player. He's been an All Star and again, young guys like that
with his skills that are just entering their prime that are available is pretty rare.
The Pelicans have soured on him. It looks like they're moving on.
They have de Jontay Murray and it sounds like they're keeping CJ. McCollum over
brandon Ingram. If fit doesn't work there, it could easily work somewhere else.
I just would not give up on a player that young. Well,
by the way, is also played in lay before. Am I wrong?
You're not wrong, You're not wrong. He can be a little bit of
a black hole at times on offense, but we're talking about someone who's still
malleable in entering his prime. Malleable is key because that's what this team likes,
is getting people within the system. I see him and the zach Lavine
opportunity considering you get a first out of that as rarities that you could at
least take a look at. Yeah, that's fair. That's those aren't non
starters to me. Yeah, depending on what they want. Yeah, it
could turn out to be a non starter, but or turn out to be
a bad deal, and I wouldn't do it. But I'm I'm interested.
I'm listening. Okay, I have to put up a tweet that is this
the one that got your ire? Yes? Because this shit is insane and
if Clippers fans want to continue to live in the past about what this man
did, then go for it. I almost don't want to say who it's
from. I'm not I'm gonna block out who it's from. No, we
want the smoke. Okay, it's from farbad he said. I honestly don't
think Russell Westbrook got a fair shake on the Clippers. Played his absolute ass
off on the twenty twenty three playoffs and showed he could still have big games.
Immediately got a short lease and cut short in twenty twenty four, unfortunate
ending last season, but still did great things. I want to preface this
by saying I am an equal lover of analytics and the eye test. I
love both of those things. I think both of those things should exist in
harmony. When you look at players. What the fuck are we talking about
with Russell Westbrook here? I love the guy's passion. I love the pop
from the crowd when Russell Westbrook steps on the court. He was bad,
duh, he was not good. He was bad. Why I feel like
I'm taking crazy pills here? He didn't get a fair shake. He got
over twenty minutes a game as the backup point guard. What are we doing
here? Sorry? This is crazy? Am I wrong? What's a fair
shake? He should start? What the fuck are we talking about here?
I think he got a fair shake in the playoff series where they didn't have
Kauhi for most of it, and when they did, he wasn't Kawhi and
he ended up going eight for forty two. What the the last five games
of that playoff series where they desperately needed help and he went eight for forty
two. It wasn't because he had a diminished role. It was because he's
always been limited and been a playoff lowerer, not a riser. His game
doesn't translate well because he works well in chaos and the playoffs are much more
deliberate and methodical. It's fucking crazy and far bad is a great Clippers reporter.
But like Farbaugh jog, he didn't have that. What does he need?
It's russ in five centers to all catch a ninety eight mile an hour
pass when he dribbles into three defenders and like anymore, and you keep smoking
layups that hard. Guess what They aren't turnovers in the box score technically,
but they are guys. He didn't make an He didn't get a fair shake
twenty plus minutes. Is the backup point guard on a contending team? What
is the fair shake for Russell Westbrook? Then? And again, I love
the guy. He's a great person. He's a wonderful humanitarian, incredibly stylish
tadle it seemingly a great father. No, he didn't get a fair shake.
What's a fair shake? I always have said about Russell Westbrook? Now
in his prime, he can take a bad team in the regular season and
raise their ceiling and get them a six seed, like he did when he
won the MVP, I think the first time averaging a triple double that wasn't
a great team around him. He can raise a team and their floor there
ten years ago. Yeah, we're talking about him getting out of the first
round though, since he left KD one time, one time in the playoffs,
it doesn't work. And on an elite team or a team with much
more talent like the Clippers, it's not as necessary what he does because everything
has to be built around him. Everything has to be built around him to
build around a guy who's thirty six or whatever. He's turning now and very
limited in not being able to finish layups anymore, and he still can't shoot.
That's just what team's going to do that. I mean, he's supposed
to think he wouldn't have opted in if the market was robust for Russell Westbrook,
if somebody was going to give him fifty million dollars to go be a
featured player on their team. Don't you think he wouldn't have opted in.
I think we're finding out about his value at this point. And he's an
all time Hall of Fame player, a top seventy five player ever. But
he's always been limited in certain areas in his prime, and he certainly is
now on the back end of it. It's just crazy he didn't get a
fair shake. What the anyway sorry got heated? Were coming up on an
hour and out, No Paul George news will supposedly pop it in at some
point, I say, we keep it going. Somebody said, twenty four
hour pod, let's just let's just go. We can, we can stick
with go as long as ESPN is going today with their coverage. Well,
just as I have to cook for some people in a few I you were
just cooking a second ago. Rock says, if we can get rid of
Westbrook and Tucker without giving up anything, would be a bonus. It'd be
huge, it'd be phenomenal. Uh oh for the Andre drummondheads. Umm uh
he's going to the Sixers. Ooh, that's interesting. So is that going
to take up any of the salary that could be a max slot for Paul
George? Is it's safe for how much? Probably not ten mill ten million
plus deal they're gonna have to I could still see it, I said yesterday.
Maybe he only gets one ninety or one eighty from Philadelphia, you know,
Yeah, but it's not the one fifty ish. Still it's a thirty
or fifty or forty million more dollars than the Clippers were offering. It's still
significant. Yeah, people are saying Chris Haynes tweeted about Russ. Yeah,
he just tweeted that it's his last It was probably his last game for the
Clippers, and it's gonna I'm still gonna remember some of the good times,
like Game one against the Philadelphia seventy six Ers and the effort game in that
series for an undermined Clippers team. It's just on an elite team. I
don't think he's a great fit because he's so erratic with his chaotic style and
you don't know what you're getting possession to possession La Murray. You know some
of the seventy six ers just signed Andre Dummon. Probably means a read is
gone, which is something there, okay, which is something with a possible
opten and trade there. Oh yeah, we don't all read on the Clippers
like five or six years ago. We have to put this up because this
is a great thing from uh Makoto Bdo. Who is Andy J. Puente.
Andy J. Puente, I believe from all I've seen, is just
another dude who's decided to get in on engagement farming during free agency season.
So he's just aggregating existing reports. And I don't even think what I'm saying
is like disrespect for anything. He just takes people's reports and puts them on
his Twitter. Yeah, I mean he doesn't have any sources. Yeah,
like it's not lood for the ivory. We see it all too often nowadays.
People rephrase it and they make a living doing that. I mean,
it's no different than people on YouTube playing a clip and then reacting to it
and try to bac seem like they use with their screaming headline they put on
it. Yeah, all right, we gotta show Eric's new art because it's
good. Now we're talking. Now, we're talking. Now we're talking Eric,
Where's hold on? We gotta up, let's go. What's up?
We're celebrating Harden. I just overheard some Charles yelling. Was there some rus
there's some rust stuff going on? Yeah, far Bad was tweeting about how
Russ never got a fair shake with the Clippers. Ah, okay, people
understand who Russell Westbrook is as a basketball player and never did what I think
it kind of is a warshock test. What fairer of a shake could he
have gotten? We looked this up the other day, averaged like twenty three
minutes. Right, it's it doesn't exist. The shake does not. He
should have stayed a starter, so they could have been fifteen before they just
insane. But this is the new art from l WF Eric thirty three.
He's in Costa Rica enjoying that looking great, loving life. Yeah. Look
it looks like a damn movie star kind of relaxation you need before you,
you know, lead this country to a gold medal. This yeah, no,
Jose Quermana, So are we drinking beer? This is a lacroix.
I uh mountain dew die a vouka sota a right soda? Good call?
May What are you guys drinking watching us? Yeah, that's true. Shark
in the box, that's very funny. Uh. We have live stream from
separate rooms in the same apartment, but we we do not live together.
We do not look together. We get asked that a lot though. That's
a fair question if we have the space, if I had three bedrooms.
They are the Burton Ernie of the Clipsing Tip podcast. Yeah, how do
you feel about the Hardened Thing? Oh wait, hold on, We're gonna
maybe do another ad for the audio, So I'm gonna clap right now.
We're gonna do ad and we're back. Will How are you feeling about the
Harden resign for two for seventy love It I'm surprised about the years. Actually,
just from his perspective, it's a very very team friendly deal. I
feel like I just thought, you know, he in the course of his
career, just the way he's done his contracts and you know, it seems
like kind of got done dirty and philly. I mean, he's left like,
you know, fifties if not like maybe one hundred million dollars in total
career earnings on the table. So for him to get him at two for
seventy is incredible. I don't know, I haven't really done the research on
the full cap implications yet, but that still opens up a pathway for us
to get under the first apron. Correct, Yeah, I mean if Paul
George leaves, I believe we are just kind of apt under the first apron,
which is sick and like again, twenty four hours ago, twenty four
hours ago, if someone's like, hey, they're coming back and we're gonna
be under the first apron, I would like, fucking sign me up,
dude, Let's let's absolutely get there. I don't know a lot of yeah
this, I don't know. I'm how do you feel about the Paul George
thing? Do you think he's just going to Philly. Do you think he's
just gone? That is still feeling like the most likely scenario. Uh.
The only thing I think that could potentially change that is, you know,
if not willing to offer him the max, Yeah, which they it's Orlando.
Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I I I mean, if
it comes down to Orlando or the Clippers, is he willing to take a
pay cut? At that point? It's even more of a pay cut though,
because you mentioned the Florida taxes. Yeah, no, there's no oh,
yeah, that's right. Well, Justin Russo has also really smartly pointed
out that like, not only does it get them out of the tax,
it gets them to stop paying the repeater tax if they get under. If
they get under, the first a been for a year. So that's a
potential savings set. That's the potential savings of like hundreds of millions of dollars.
I think it's like four hundred million dollars. Yeah, it's like kind
of yeah, it's a lot of money. But to like to get out
of there, how rich you are? Four hundred million is four hundred million?
Yeah, half a billion? How much? That's how much? Like
the Bucks franchise went for like five years ago. Right, Yeah, No,
I mean it's it's it's a huge amount of money, and I agree,
like wal Bonner is willing to spend the money if you can get under
that. Uh you know, you set yourself up for a good position and
looking at the free agent market this year being what it was, uh,
same junction. You know. I think it's I think it's reasonable, especially
if there's not, like say, a Levine deal or something out there,
which I like, I'm not super high on it, you know, but
it is it is talent. What about the first you know, healths shaking?
If there's not first pick from Chicago. That could be a lottery pick.
Yeah, that could even be a boat. Sorry, is that like
a Flexio commercial or no, it's from a family guy when they can choose
either a free boat or a mystery gift and he goes could be a mystery.
It could even be about and keep going. Will What are your thoughts
on Levine? Like? I I like it as like I like an added
scorer. Oh, thank you, I got it at a thrip STORYM.
I like it as an added scorer. I mean defensively not doing a lot.
The injury stuff is troubling as well. What's that How many years are
left on that deal? Not that long? Right? Is he an experience
with an expiring on the last year that's forty eight million. Oh, it'll
be thirty one at the end of it. It's not terrible. You're in
theory getting prime years. Yeah, if he stays healthy, I am probably
wall player though I see I I honestly, I think it's been situational for
him. Chicago hasn't been a winning place. It hasn't been a winning place
for a long time since sure the left, since Derek Rose and TIBs and
Jimmy, butl mismanaged, really mismanaged, like I think exactly be in the
right spot could pop and prove that narrative to be false. So this is
what Junk and Junction brought this up earlier. Well, we need regular season
merchants. Yeah, and Levine is a regular. He's a regular. He
is a merchant. Yeah, I mean, look like healthy with Paul George
off, this team, Like the realistic possibility of this team winning championship is
nil. That's what I was just. Yeah, I mean, I I
like it. It's talent and yeah, like for for the regular season,
if he stays healthy, that's a guy that can put up numbers. That's
a guy that can that can microwave stuff when this offense sort of stalls out.
So yeah, I think it's really interesting. I think that he's a
nice compliment next to Harden too. I think that that's a really interesting piece.
But as far as like raising the ceiling of of like what this team
does, I mean it does. It does for the regular season. Like
I said, you know this this team is is now out of its contender
phase. So it's how do we how do we put out the best possible
on court product, and then how do we smoothly transition into the next phase
of of the you know what is going to be an eventual rebuild because Kawhi,
you know, at the end of this contract is is likely done uh
in the NBA. UH, And we've got to, you know, hope
that we retain what little young talent that we have uh and try to build
around that and make make something competitive and make something that's at least going to
get ass and seats and into it. I don't think the contender phase is
over. I want to be honest about that. That's foolish, but I
you're optimist. I just saw Dallas Mavericks team go to the finals that the
Clippers with Kawhi and take out Paul George, and that series are beating.
You could take out Paul George in that first round series, yet the Clippers
won't have Kawhi and Paul George next year. You could take out Paul George
and not even have them in that series and have Kawhi and James Harden and
they would have beat the Dallas Mavericks in the first round. I mean,
I don't know. That's revision is history. They beat the Nuggets. So,
no, they didn't beat the Nuggets. They didn't have to. They
didn't end up playing the Nuggets Minnesota. That's right. They didn't have to
beat the Nuggets. Okay, so there are paths where you can be more
for they beat the team that beat the Nuggets, though, so property they
did beat the Nuggets. I don't think that team was some unbeatable team by
the Clippers of the first round and they took them to six like things break
Clippers team. Kevin Porter Junior is coming to the Clippers two year deal with
a player option. Here for it. Okay, who had that shams.
Let's go. Let's let's go go. Kevin Porter talk about getting younger.
This is how you do it. Still not a contender, will real time
contender just made right there with Kevin. Look, I'm just saying he's got
a ton of talent. They've been off the court issues. There have been
issues with the franchise there in Houston. This is not bad at all.
This is again taking risks on guys. What did a Lawrence Frank say about
Kai Jones? He called him like Fallen Angels type guys. Girlfriend Kevin Porter
Jr. Had some pretty rough stuff. Yes, And I'm just going off
as on the court talent. This is how you can get a guy like
that. You're separating the art from the from the artist. Unfortunately, you
have to do that quite often in sports. Uh too, sure it all
the time. And I I don't like condemning young people. I don't for
the rest of their lives, depending on what it is case by case basis
of course. But do we want to run we can. I mean,
I let me just look up as wiki because I want to have all the
facts. He is from Seattle, Blood guilty to misdemeanor assault and harassment violation
after he attacked his girlfriend in a blood leaving her in a hotel, leaving
her covered in blood with a deep cut above the right eye. It's tough.
I didn't know all the details there. It seems like he also as
difficulty. He also pressured her to chain her statements to to to prosecutors after
after she was initially interviewed, which is like a text mark move of DV
cases. When you get into the details, it's certainly going to be scrutinized,
There's no doubt about it. Well, he's a Clipper now. I
didn't know the extent of it. Uh. I was going more oft of
what happened with him in Houston, and I knew there was some malcontent stuff
there. Yeah, but he's a Clipper now. Uh yeah. What was
the contract? Two year deal including a player option. That's all we got.
Multiple believes it's a minimum. I mean, so this is a take
a flyer type thing, just like with who isn't officially back yet? Right.
No, he was like relief, Yeah, because they wanted to work
out like a different deal. Yeah, I believe Kai Jones released. Sorry,
I'm guessing this is something we're just like with past guys. We mentioned
Kai Jones, but where the Clippers haven't monitoring the situation for some time.
I think Kai Jones ends up on the summer League team for sure. He
need he she should get a shot. We had Law on the show and
he talked about how they want to give Kay a shot at being the five.
He's an athletic five. I think it makes sense to give him a
shot at the five like he's you know, that's what he should do.
Yeah, the shizzlebizzil is he anything? Have to take chances right now?
With young guys, they simply have to. It is not sustainable in the
new CBA to keep running it back over and over again with higher christ veterans.
You either find out if a young guy can hack it or not and
move on to the next one, or you just don't have sustainability in a
franchise to continue to contend. The only way is to land on some young
guys. Now, there's no other meals. Okay, Dime Dime just had
a really funny tweet. Uh Dime just tweeted out Clippers seems so image conscious
and then go out and I don't even just go look at dime doppers street
I think he brings up a good point. The Clippers are very image conscious,
but then they make moves where sometimes you're just kind of confused. Yeah,
I don't know. Fan base doesn't seem to like it on Twitter at
all, but it's certainly a flyer situation and a guy that is getting another
chance because like with Kai Jones, Laurence Frank called him a fallen angel.
Uh Like, who does he supplant though? In the in the point guard
rotation? Yeah, in the rotation. Will he make it, you know,
through all the way through training camp and make it onto the team or
is this just really a situation where they're gonna have to see something early on
here. I think it's gotta be see something early on. He was playing
in Greece, which is a pretty good, pretty good league, but other
teams didn't early one of them. This was this was he. This happened
in January of this year when he pled to this deal and essentially he was
not on an NBA roster for a money and maybe second round picks move.
He remember, he got moved to the Oklahoma City Thunder and they cut him
immediately and then no no one picked him up for I think he's been playing
in Greece, but it hasn't like I don't even know if it hasn't even
been for a full season. Probably in Greece and Greece, it's been like
six weeks or so. Yeah, yeah, I mean it hasn't been super
long. Yeah, it's I mean someone someone tweeted out as the Fondi Barani
tweeted out, NBA teams keep reminding you what their priorities are, which like,
that's not it sucks, We're not We're not saying that sports teams,
Yeah, you could go a lot further than the NBA businesses continue to remind
you what their priorities are. I think, Look, I'm not saying there's
a statute of limitations on this. I do wonder when when do the incident
take place? And what type of rehabilitation are we talking about here? It's
a court ordered thing. I don't know. It's it's like eighteen weeks or
or something. I don't know, because the Clippers were very detailed about every
all the steps that kai Jones went through, and I'm assuming this primo thing.
Kai Jones didn't really have to go through steps primo, no, but
but they were monitoring what he was doing as well. Premo for sure,
But Kai Jones was the same with whom they knew about the therapy he was
going through. But he had no legal issues. True, he didn't have
legal issues. He just he needed help with his brain, which all of
us do at some points. So that's I think. Yeah, it's interesting.
It's definitely a move where if you're the Clipper, you're just kind of
like, why are we Like why I'm just saying, I know they're not
going into it blind. They know something aside from this part of his background.
They're gonna know what he's been doing since then. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, well fucking see. I guess whether or not you disagree with
it when you know that information or not, you know, it's is a
personal decision. It's an individual decision, of course. And again we're talking
about somebody that I don't think it's any guarantee that he's on the team.
Uh yeah, is the contract it's a flyer, it's got to be a
minimum. We're not it's this isn't a domino? Really, when do we
think? What time is it over in Philadelphia? Seven around seven thirty in
Philly? Right now? When do we think that Paul George decision. Are
we getting it Monday? Are you getting at tomorrow? On his pod?
I mean, is that is that completely out of the realm of possibilities for
Paul? If I was him, I would do it. I would break
it myself that right, Like so is Monday on the pod? Like the
next one? Is that what we're going to hear about pg's science Pg's decision.
My guess is there's almost too there probably is too much smoke and too
many reports for him to be able to keep it quiet to end up breaking
the news himself. Yeah, but he's they could be just so far down
the path or getting there step by step. Who knows, maybe maybe he's
coming back to the Clippers and he throws us for a loop here. So
that someone asked us in the chat, how would you feel if Paul George
came back? Well, I said that if Paul George came back on a
team friendly deal, I would laugh my ass off. Yeah, it'd be
weird, it'd be weird. But look from from a talent perspective, it's
it's the best possible option, Like we're not gonna do better for this next
season? You know, could you hope to do better. Maybe like in
the future, if you could get assets, sure, but that's out of
the picture now, Like that's just not that's not happening. With the opt
out, There's there's no way you can you can really reclaim any sort of
assets. So Paul George is the best we can do if he can come
back on a on a team friendly deal. Yeah, I mean, that's
a good I'll come I you know, he's I know, he's an ardent
watcher of this podcast. So we might have to we might have to train
a couple episodes. But from a talent perspective, it's the best. It's
it's you know, it is the best case scenario for the Clippers. I
think. Look, I think with more time to work it out with Harden,
certainly like a full off season. I mean, you guys have heard
me, and maybe I even put too much emphasis into it, but like
I think of a healthy full off season is huge for a team, Like
it's massive, and it's one of those things the Clippers are rarely afforded,
whether through injury or through mid season trade. So I do see a lot
of potential there, but it just comes down to what is that team friendly
contract, and at the end of that, like, are there hard feelings
on either end, because obviously I don't think there is organizationally from the Clippers.
I don't know how Paul George ultimately feels about that. But if he
does test the market and find that the max isn't there for whatever reason,
comes back on a team friendly deal, I don't really know how you could
be mad at the Clippers about that. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't be
mad at all. We got a Buie bomb in the chat KCP is going
to Orlando on a one year deal. Love that. It's a great pit
That's that's a great It's crazy that. I mean he was huge for the
Nuggets. Good And it is a minimum contract just posted and the minimum contract
with the Clippers. So for those say like well, Bridges would make more
sense, like he's a position of need and has all this baggage, just
like if you signed Bridges, He's definitely all. That was mostly just a
joke about the Clippers taking people with not good history of relationships. This guy
looks dead serious about it, but Rock, he looks you go pretty deep
into it, guys. It's a minimum contract, whether or not he's on
the team. It is definitely the flyer situation KCP three years, sixty six
mil. Yeah, I was gonna say one year deal. I'm that surprise
that's all. He could get three for sixty six. That's a good signing
for the Magic. Look, he helps every team he's been on. I'm
just surprised. He's a good guy. I'm just surprised that. I mean,
I guess given it age, but like, I'm just surprised that teams
are so willing to let him go. Does this make rust to the Nuggets
more they they wanted, They inquired about him before he opted in. Does
rust to the Nuggets? I don't think so. I don't think there's I
think the flavored just the stinky ones play not ridged. Their GM had already
come out like a week ago and said, you know, basically, if
we lose him, we have Christian Brown. We have guys that we can
go to. They've been, you know, with a decent pipeline right now
to the NBA Draft of funneling in new talent. They've been good about that.
The Denver gosh, they've been laying the pipeline right like tomorrow. Yeah,
man, Lawrence Franks. I don't know, there's some interesting uh he's
and does the addition of another guard. Well, I mean this is the
deepest position, Like, I don't know, it's got, it's got.
Are you gonna do this and not address it? They will address it?
Yeah, absolutely, you would hope that it means like either run I mean
preferably Russ, but like something could be in the works for Norm too.
Yeah, there is is a scorer. He's not as good as a shooter,
but he is a scorer. I mean he he played like thirty four
minutes, but he's like just under a twenty point per game. Guy.
Yeah, there's a path there. Somebody's saying Isaiah Hartenstein is going to really
I'm not sure if that's a report or not. I'm checking it here on
X Adam as I'm on X. I don't see any breaking news yet on
that. They're probably just reading the camera meal the camera meal. Yeah,
I don't, man, I want this, I just want the PG saw
gonna end. If I'm being august honest, riff, the band aid off
right off? Can we just end it? Like? And I understand the
frustration and outrage side of it with people talking about k I did not know
the extent of it. I thought we were talking about baggage with his game
with the Houston Rockets. I believe happened at one point, like he just
left. He had an issue with teammates in Houston. They did not like.
Yeah, I mean, he was part of that draft class. I
mean, I'm in no way relating this to his behavior because that's reprehensible,
but he was like kind of part of that in between build of draft picks
and especially guards that they didn't really seem to know what exactly they wanted to
do with, Like there wasn't really a whole lot of direction. So I
do believe that there was, you know, a lot of dysfunction in the
in the organization. And of course again I'm just talking about the on court
stuff. So deuced Times is bringing up an interesting thing. He's all enough
to remember Kobe opted out and No. Four took a meeting and he came
back. I think the issue this is a great point because it has happened
before. But the issue is, oh, like Kobe did that though,
to put Levers on the franchise, to trade Shack, to say I could
leave and so you better do something. But in this issue with the Clippers.
It's that fourth year. It's sticking on the fourth year, and it's
not you know what I mean? Like that This is a great point by
Deuce, but like the Clippers don't want to give him four years for a
MAX and if you give him three with a player option on the last year,
I mean, that's getting picked up for sure. A lot of people
are in this camp that PG isn't leaving. What's the deal? If you're
in the chat and we're just using slang, what's the deal for PG?
If he's not leaving? What do you think in the chat? Uh?
Do you think he comes back for if he's not leaving? Because the Clippers
aren't offering a max. And I mean this sincerely because I don't know what
he comes back for. If he comes back to the Clippers, you know
what I mean, he'd be turning down reportedly, two teams that are offering
him the MAX that are also competitive teams. You wouldn't believe this, but
Orlando was like the five seed last year and the Philadelphia seventy six ers half
MAXI and evide he's not just leaving to get money to go play for the
Charlotte Hornets, he could go to Detroit. These aren't Yeah, yeah,
no, totally. I mean that's why Philly makes the most sense too,
because it is it is a the clearest path to the finals. You're in
the weaker conference sorry, uh sixers. I mean, yes, they haven't
gotten out of the second round, but they are, if not a contender,
on the verge of being a contender basically every single year. And if
you look at it from a talent perspective, Paul George could get max money
to be the third best player on the team, which is seemingly exactly what
he wants. Situationally, who wants us He wants to be fancy Tobias Harris
on the seventy six ers, And if they're willing to pay him max money
to do that, I would I mean if I was Paul Georgia, I
would take that deal in a heartbeat. Are you kidding me? Yeah?
For everybody talking about the family thing and the draw to staying with the Clippers
because of that, Yes, we have talked about it extensively. I think
that would be the biggest reason he'd stay. Yeah, it's sure he's home.
Yeah, he had always wanted to come back to Southern California. There
were Lakers rumors before too, So is he back on three for one fifty?
That would be that ends up being the end of this whole thing.
Wow, so much ado about nothing? Yeah? So much? Yeah,
I mean, I mean that's true because basically the same offers have been there
the entire time, and he just eventually came to the realization that, you
know what, I'd rather I'm more comfortable here. Yeah, the money's the
money, doesn't that way being being comfortable with my family in Los Angeles,
Palmdale. Where do you think they take them out to dinner in Orlando to
try and where do you take Paul If you're like the Disney World the Top
and they go to they eat around the world, do a little wide and
dine around the world. I'm on trip Advisor and it's the top restaurants in
Orlando. Number two is the Melting Pot, which is a national fondue cheese
chain. So, I don't know, I don't know what if, I
don't know if Orlando's being is pretty is good, it's just sure it shouldn't
be this. It's a little pricey, it's a little overrated. It shouldn't
be the second best restaurant in your city. Yeah, that's fair. It
shouldn't be someone brought up back to the bubble. Would this be bubble redemption?
If George went to Orlando, Bubble redemption would be PG having a great
game six in Orlando in the finals against the Magic for the Clippers. That
would be bubble redemption. M But yeah, this is a great point from
x Mango Project, which is kind of where I'm at. He seems unserious
sometimes where you and this is what Sixers fans. I think the frustrations they
would meet is you're like, does this guy want to win? Where are
we at? He wants to play the right way, He has quotes stacked
against him. He seems serious. When he said there's no identity, he
was serious about that. That was great. He's also a huge part of
that. Come on, be real, they'll tell HP basketball that who maybe
on the podcast next month who. I got into a link argument with on
X who apparently doesn't know who Paul George is and is saying the biggest thing
they'd lose from him is his leadership and being a connection. This is a
good point by Michael Yun. PG would get to catch and cook fish in
Orlando. Oh, great fishing out there. That's a good point. Great
point. Oh a point. So back to the KCP thing that takes them
out of the PG running. So I don't think they're signing Paul George that
basically takes them do it? Are we sure they still wouldn't have enough?
How much is that per year? Yeah? I guess so cap and it's
a player option on the third year. So I don't. I don't they
When I looked yesterday, I believe they had they had just about enough to
get to get a Max Max Yeah. So yeah, they don't have seventy
to get both of them or something like that right play with, So they
only seventy is Philadelphia, who I believe has sixty five million dollars in cap
space. But they also you also got to remember, like they it's because
everyone is off the books. So there, you know, they can do
one big signing and then they still have to fill out a roster. Well,
they are about to re sign Maxie, but they can do that because
they have his bird rights also to go over the cap. So they're fine,
and that's what they could pay Drummond. What does this say about the
Paul George situation though that Orlando this quickly after free agency said okay, we're
using our money. They seem to know they at least were out of it.
They might know where he's They also just maybe weren't willing to take that
big of a swing, like those owners are a cheap owner base, and
you know, like it's possibility that you know they would they would like the
Paul George thing and from talent, it's a great perspective. But if you're
staring down the barrel of four years for two D and twelve, but what
if he takes less now for Orlando, I don't think he's taken less for
Orlando that much less, yeah, because it would have to be it'd be
what four for two hundred, you know, like twelve like twelve million less?
Like I don't. I don't see him taking less than that. I
mean perfectly. And the Sixers are better than the Magic, so going to
they're the best teams, it's an easier path. And he, like I
said, there's easily two players better that more are expected from than him on
the roster, which is seemingly the situation that he wants. So it's down
to Clippers or sixers. Unless the Utah Jazz have this outside shot. There
was a report earlier they could they have the space, he would thrive.
I will go on record right now and saying that, I think of all
the people that I can think of, I think Paul George would thrive in
Utah. I think he would do great there. There's no pressure. They
love basketball, but like dude, it's Utah. I don't know. Man,
their fans when they're good, are pretty good, be fine. I
think Paul George, he's he's an odd duck, and I think he would
thrive in Utah, fish in the Salt Lakes, whatever whatever they do up
there. Yeah, I think he would drive in Utah. Ex Mango Project
is asked Skin about Moe Wagner. So he was released by the Magic,
but it seems like they're trying to work out a deal. So is he
available? Technically, yes, he is, he is not under contract,
but I don't I don't know if the Magic are trying to trying to take
him back. I don't see him being a real upgrade over Mason Plumley.
Really, I would like. He's younger. He's younger, he is good.
I mean, he's he he's a he makes more sound decisions for sure.
Yeah, it would be an upgrade. That's he could be a prick
too, and the Clippers need the Clippers need a dickhead. I think they
need a PAP and they get back because I'd be all for it. What
does KPJ mean for Bones? Though it's a two way contract, I don't
think it means anything for Bones. I think he has to have a I
hope they have to play him in summer league. They have, he's on
a two way. It's a minimum fifteen percent trade kicker. So like,
so he and Kyle Jones might be wrecking people in the G League. Yeah,
or they move him, yeah, like because I I just think I
mean people people in the in the chat rightly pointing out that KPJ is a
dickhead much like Mel Wagner. We're not trying to add not different. Yeah,
ideally you get that. We're talking. Oh yeah, sorry, it's
a yeah, it's a minimum contract. But they still got no. Yeah,
that was my bad. They still got to have him played summer league
because he hasn't played against NBA competition. I don't think Bones is going to
play summer League. I don't think he has He shouldn't have to play summer
League. He should just probably be tried out in the beginning. No,
so I think I don't know. I don't think KPJ means anything for Bones
A fair point. Yeah, it's not. I would like to say,
I totally understand that side of it. I hope you're consistent if you believe
this stuff and don't have like Tyreek Hill and your fantasy team or something.
I just hope you're If that's how you feel about it, I totally understand.
So it's going to be polarizing, and as do the Clippers bring in
another backup point guard to challenge Bones to maybe try and have a competition.
We have enough guards. Stop to be gone? Existence is he they're trying
to faciliated, They're trying to facilitate the trade. Well, let me know
when it's done. That's James Harden. It's done. That's four dudes.
That's three guys. It's three guys. It's I don't want to see anyone
challenge Bose. I want Bones. Did you hate the job? I'm saying,
but do you think they do job? That's actually that's why to challenge
him. Those guys are boys. I want Bones to be in the same
position he was in that same place he was where everybody, to a man
said he impressed them most during training camp than any other player on the team.
It was Bones Highland and he knew he had the starting backup job because
when he has training camp with Barden and Bones the development off the charts.
That's a great call. I'm all about that first full training camp for James
to have with the Clippers too. Oh, this is a move that I
like actually from Junction. Bring back kJ Martin on the men. Yeah,
bring the young athletic guy at the four back, but Tomb first. Oh
yeah, but Tom back on a minimum if they get as the Batons or
both available. Yeah. There. The BA Tombs are royalty and if they
come back to l A, they will be treated as such. I will
root for France against Team USA this summer. If a Tomb comes back,
I don't know about that. I will go underdogs. Oh yeah, we
haven't talked about this. We didn't talk about this on the pod. Brandon
Boston Junior're no longer a Clipper seemingly, Uh, it kind of sucks,
but it's not a huge surprise. He just didn't develop. He didn't develop.
It seems like there was I think he seems like there were some issues
too, like with him being willing to change his role and uh and some
stuff like that. There was just no development over multiple years. So what
do you do. I I had drafted guys. Yeah, he was somewhat
a victim of circumstance of the Clippers just in this era not developing young guys.
And there's somewhat of a failure there because the lack of opportunity, there
was no way to find out anything about Brandon Boston who he can be in
this league. To be honest, like, I think we saw enough.
I gotta be honest with man, I think we saw enough well. I
wouldn't be surprised if some team has him as a solid role player backup.
I wouldn't be surprised if that he ended up there in his career. Yeah,
at some point. And again, the development when you're on a team
that the goals are a championship, it's difficult to get that development, especially
with the glut of guards. I want to give a shout out to Scott
Trand for pointing this out. kJ Martin was the only Clipper player in the
schedule release video. I believe last season or the season. This is yeah,
it's absolutely pandering to me. I appreciate this. It's insane. It's
so funny. He took that basketball to Chick fil A and that's what they
did. I don't know anything else. How are we feeling. We're just
waiting on this Paul George stuff. Hardened news was shockingly pleasant. That's so
great after sort of an uncertain start to the like free agency in the offseas
and uh, just a just a huge sire relief. That is a great
domino to fall, very team friendly deal, and it gives the Clippers a
lot more parability in terms of what they want to do. Do they want
to move somebody? Are they willing to massets to try to get to try
to raise the talent ceiling? Do they want to try to get under the
tax maintain a little bit more maneuverability. See what they could do mid season
or possibly a year from now. I just keep thinking about how they can
realistically get under the first apron with Kawhi and James Harden on the team.
That's interesting. That's that's the front office doing some work. That's good stuff
for sure. I don't know should we I feel like we should call it.
We're all waiting on Paul George. We'll go live when the Paul George
thing happens at some point. Yeah, I don't see. I don't see
much else materializing. Klay Thompson is looking at Dallas, he's looking at the
Lakers, he's looking at the Clippers. That's one report that's out there.
Ye Will, did we get your thoughts on Clay? No? Thank you,
Okay, zero interest. He was he was bere he fell out of
the starting lineup for a very thin, much worse team than the Clippers last
season. I'm I'm good. That was so funny. No, thank you,
thank someone. I wouldn't hate it on the mid level, but I
get it. There's reason to believe that he's certainly lost a few steps.
Yeah, I think that's I just think the fit is really good, like
really good on the second replace to replace Paul George. I'm not saying he's
not insane. He's no, no, no, no no no. I
don't mean he's like they're the same level of talented team. I mean at
fit next to James and next to Kawhi because of his shot profile, like
it's pretty dark good like DeRozan. You can make the argument is the more
talented player, but fit wise might not be as good as Clay because he
doesn't. Yeah, I think the DeRozan is a terrible fit. Yeah,
I don't like the fidd mid range guy with mid we can't have two mid
range guys. I love the vibes. We're not talking. I'm not talking
about the hangs. I'm sure the kickbacks are gonna be. He's also looking
the has. He's a player. He's a player I love to watch as
well. I just you know, if we're not contenders. Yeah, so
if it, if it did happen, I wouldn't be like mad about it,
but I I I said, I wouldn't kick it out of bed.
No, but like like objectively, like if I'm if I'm, if I'm
working in the front office, it's from a fit perspective, it, you
know, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. And if
we're not but if we're not contenders, the hangs should be good, right,
Yeah, Oh, I think that's fair. All right, So I
think we're calling this until next time, which might be tomorrow. Of course,
tonight or tonight. We work every day now, yeah, we do
work. Uh, but yeah, thanks for everyone for hanging out. Here's
to the Clippers, maybe getting under the first apron. Maybe Paul George comes
back on a three for one fifty deal. We all go to the cackle,
which is exactly what I'm doing for ten seconds when that stream starts.
If it's less than three for one fifty, I'm I'm actually quite happy.
If it's less than three for one, sister fifty, I'm burning things down
in a joyous way. Yeah, well, what's happening if he goes to
Philly for three and one fifty? What happens then? Yeah, I already
told you. I tagged you. I tagged you on Twitter. Do uh?
I tagged you. There's a guy who lives a ten minute walk from
the beach. He says, got a bag of Paul George stuff. Perfect,
check your men perfect. Thanks for hanging out. You can find the
podcast uh anywhere you find podcasts. Thanks checking out on YouTube and this will
be out in the audio form later. So yeah, sorry, I was
late. I was watching the fourth of July in the theater on the fourth
of July. Wow, let me let me ask you something before we get
out of here. What's the threshold for getting us back on a pod tonight?
Like if they did bring in Clay, is that are we podcasting?
Like? What type of player is it gonna take? Text me when the
when the Levine deal happens? What the Levine deal happens? Oh yeah,
wait real quick, let's each give our prediction for what we think happens before
the end of tonight. Adam, what do you what's a weird thing that
you think happens. Uh, I don't know about a weird thing. I'm
still in the camp of it's probably more likely than not that Paul George goes
to Philadelphia. But I wouldn't be shocked if he came back to the Clippers
because he loves He's a whole body. He's on the PS five. I
don't think he can bring on Patrick Patterson. Don't we already have like sixteen
rostered guys we could cut. If PG comes back on three for one and
we have to cut somebody, we'll bring by Patrick Patterson. He can host
movie nights. Yeah, he had good movie takes. All right, Will,
what's your weird thing? What's your prediction for before the end of the
night, I don't know. PG finally makes a decision but doesn't announce it
for a couple more days. I like that. That's a good call.
Yeah, I think PG. Yeah, I think PG says he has a
decision, but he's announcing it on the pod this pod. No, I'm
just kidding, it'll be on podcast. Be all right, we're headed out
of here. Hope every when has a good rest of your night. Here's
to some work getting done tomorrow because I don't know how much is going to
get done. As always, thanks for hanging out and