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You're listening to kf I am six
forty on demand. Skylar, Welcome to

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Jesus Christ Show. Hi Jesus Um, thanks for tying show. UM,

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I have a U wait Skylar,
Skylar, Honey one second? How old

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are you? Eleven? Eleven?
And Skylar? Do your parents know that

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you're calling? Yes? Okay,
good, go ahead. UM. I

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have a spiritual thing, UM that
I'm being boyed in school by a girl

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and I don't really like it.
M. And how is she boying you?

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Like? She's like making fun of
me, She's like falling me around

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M. And what does she make
fun of? Things you say? Things

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you do? Or she just generally
is making fun of um. She's like,

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um doing the things you said?
MMM, you know the things that

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people can make fun of, like, UM, my producer Neil he went

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bald when he was like like twenty
three years old, so he shaves his

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head so he's got no hair and
sometimes people will joke about that, but

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it also it's also what makes him
distinctive. It's also what makes him memorable.

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And sometimes people point out those things
about you because they're memorable and they

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don't know how to express it,
so they do it in a negative way,

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but ultimately other people see that as
one of the things that make you

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a wonderful human being is that you
have these unique the way you say things,

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or the funny things you say,
or the way you walk or the

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way you talk. And if they're
pointing those things out and they're making fun

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of them, usually that is what
makes you different and makes you wonderful and

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makes you Skylar and not someone else. But as far as what scripture says,

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scripture says, and you can read
this with your folks later on in

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the Book of Romans, and this
is chapter twelve, verse twenty. It

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says, but if your enemy is
hungry, feed him, and if he

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is thirsty, give him drink,
for in so doing you will heap burning

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coals upon his head. And it
goes which doesn't sound very pleasant, but

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listen, it goes on to say, do not be overcome by evil,

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but overcome evil with good. So
the scripture asks you to be nice to

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those people that are mean to you, as long as they aren't physically trying

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to hurt you. If they get
to the point where they're hitting you,

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or they're throwing things at you,
or they are gonna try and harm you

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that way. Then I want you
to let someone know because that's not okay.

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And if they're using words to say
mean things, you want to tell

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people, but I don't want you
to say mean things back to them,

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okay, because that makes you that
lowers you to their level, and I

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don't want you to do that.
So I want you, honey, to

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read through that scripture with your folks
later on. And I also want you

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to ask them about this show and
let them explain to you what we do

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here and all that, because that'll
be part of the fun as well.

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But just know that when people point
things out about you and what you look

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like, those are the special parts
about you. Okay, Okay, all

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right, my dear, you go
and you have a great day. You

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rock down, well, you rock
to Skylar bub bye, honey, My

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goodness. It's very easy to look
at life and to look at what you

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are and who you are and the
things that your physical attributes are, what

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have you or the way you say
things. A bully is someone who just

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wants to point those things out.
But they want to point those things out

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and hope it's not constructive criticism.
They're pointing these things out and hopefully in

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hopes of hurting you. My goodness, we get we get email like that

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all the time, and so please
know I'm not above it. But you

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can't let that slow you down.
If you watch these shows like um they

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have those wedding series, you know, where they show everything that went want

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wrong at the wedding, I guarantee
that's what made the wedding memorable. It's

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those things that stand out, that
are different that make you memorable. When

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something doesn't go right, that makes
that time memorable. If it's just a

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day, an average day, where
everything goes okay, you forget it.

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It's the days where something exceptional happens, either good or bad, that you

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know, buries that into your brain. And just like Skylar, that that

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there's there's going to be attributes of
Skylar that somebody may think is funny or

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they want to make fun of the
name and change it a little bit.

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That's what kids do. And there's
some bullying that is not fun, but

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it's kind of the healthy part of
growing up. And then there's this new

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breed of bullying that gets very ugly
and super mean spirited and and should be

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defended against. And there is a
time for the as well. Never let

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anybody put a hand on you,
Let never let anybody harm you in any

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way, shape or form, ever, and that you defend yourself against that,

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and you go to the proper authorities
if you're at school or at work

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or whatever, to let them know
if you're being bullied there as well,

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because it happens at works sometimes as
well. But when people start to point

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out characteristics, the way you talk, or things like that, take pride

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in that if you were to go
and have a cartoon drawn of you at

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the fair or at you know,
Disneyland or disney World or something, and

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you have a drawing done of you, you'll see that they will accentuate certain

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parts of you, and you may
be offended by that, Oh wow,

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my body really? That small as
my head? That big is my nose?

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That big? I mean No,
it's an exaggeration of those things that

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make you you. And that's what
bullying is sometimes. It's people trying to

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exaggerate the wonderful characteristics that make you
you and make them a negative, and

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you want to make them a positive
by not succumbing to that, not giving

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in to those taunts and making you
someone ugly like they're being and you continue

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to love them through it. Now
I read verse twenty in addition to twenty

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one because my producer Neil quite frankly
gets a kick out of it every time

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he reads that being an ice to
your enemy leaped, you know, heaps

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coals upon their head. Obviously that
is referencing Proverbs twenty five as well there,

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but that that imagery of that kindness
leaping or keeping coals upon their head

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is really to show you that that
your goodness is what bothers somebody who's being

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bad, and by being kind to
them it really is twofold. It allows

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you from breaking down and becoming them. And then two it is like you

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know, across to a vampire.
Kindness burns and it will hopefully help them

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see the stupidity of their ways.
But always be, you know, take

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the high road. Stillwell, welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Yes,

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Jesus, I'm calling because my father
and I came to the state of Texas

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from Florida to establish the church following
my dad's calling to do that. My

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dad has had a long success of
of doing that and anyways became to Texas.

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I left everything to help him open
up the church. The church has

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been going on for about four years. It's going well, but he had

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to move back to Florida for a
couple of reasons. But anyways, Um,

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we have a new pastor, and
obviously it's it's hard for me to

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just I've never had another pastor other
than my dad. Um, but at

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this time, you know, I'm
here and I'm a leader here, I'm

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the music director and I have you
know, It's my problem is that I

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have a hard time identifying with the
new pastor and I feel like I'm just

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fulfilling my responsibilities and then myself and
my family are not being spiritually fed.

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And what is it that's so?
What is it that's so different in regards

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to your current pastor? You know
his his A lot of it has to

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do with his preaching style. A
lot of it has to do with all

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the changes, um that happened so
quickly. Um, it just seemed as

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though the teachings that my father used
to bring were more I don't know,

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they just kind of and it's it's
more people than just myself. But do

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you have a problem with a pastor
himself? Do you get along with him?

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Oh? I get along with him. Great. I think he's a

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he has good intentions, and I
feel that the church is going to succeed.

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Um, I just I don't know
if I just not your taste,

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it's not your cup of tea.
I don't feel like I'm I'm learning,

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and I don't feel like I'm being
spiritually fed. And I just don't know

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if you know I have responsibilities there, So I don't know if it's it's

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okay to do that. Do you
have a desire to pastor the church yourself?

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No, I don't not at all. Okay, so you can pick

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up and you can move to another
church, no problem. Yeah, I

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feel like I could do that,
and I feel like it it's what my

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heart wants. And I went to
another church the other day and I felt

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it was amazing the experience I had, and I felt that that's where I

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belonged. But I have responsibilities here, so I understand my questions. Are

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the responsibilities more important than you know, my family, spiritual life and being

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fed? No, your responsibilities.
Your responsibilities are to your family first and

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then to that that body second,
I mean the church body. It's wonderful

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for you to be a participant and
people should be a participant in their churches.

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And you have a commitment. I
mean, if you've signed something or

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you've said I will be here till
this time, then you should fulfill that.

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But if it's if it's not you
know, a contract that you've made

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with the church, or if you
just really if you think that the church

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is doing anything damaging, if it's
just not your cup of tea, then

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you should you know, you finish
and you fulfill. But if if you're

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if you're saying that you're not being
fed and it's not your flavor and all

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of these things, then you know
you're obligated to pick up and move.

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You give them proper amount of time
to find a replacement. UM, explain

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your your concerns and say this is
you know where I'm at. I feel

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really lad I went to this other
church, and I feel very motivated by

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this church, and UM that you'd
like to take your family there and you

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feel like you're being led there.
But you don't want to leave them in

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the lurch either by not having someone
to replace you or any of those things.

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So treat it like a job in
that sense, and give them a

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proper amount of time to get somebody
else. But there's nothing wrong with switching

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churches as long as it doesn't become
you know, musical churches and you just

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didn't you know, didn't, didn't, didn't and you just keep hopping from

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one to one um and really search
yourself. I mean, have you gone

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to churches that were pastored by your
father for a long time? Yeah,

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my whole life. Yeah, So
it might be that might be a hard

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change for you to begin with,
to sit under someone else or to hear

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someone else's teaching and you're you,
you've been fed a particular type of food,

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a particular type of way for a
long time, and it may just

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be discomfort. So just make sure
that you search your heart thoroughly and prayerfully

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on this and make sure that it's
not an emotional decision based on normal discomfort.

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But there's there's nothing wrong with leaving
a church, even if you're in

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leadership, as long as you give
them proper amount of time voice your your

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concerns or thoughts or wishes or what
you feel you're being led to and all

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those so that the pastor doesn't get, you know, sideswiped and then feels

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like they're doing something wrong. It
just may not be what you're looking for

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currently. Okay, all right,
excellent and good, I hope so,

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and then you move forward prayerfully.
I mean imagine this if and this happens

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a lot in churches, that if
if strangely enough, you went to a

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restaurant you didn't like something, you
would assume, well, that's just not

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to my taste. I mean,
some people might go, oh, that's

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a horrible restaurant. You know,
the sauce was too watery or whatever it

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be. But really it might just
be your taste. And if your taste

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is not into that, well then
you go to another restaurant that suits your

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palette. Is Spiritually, a lot
of people will jump on the bandwagon of

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a new church, and then if
if the pastors stern on something or says

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something they don't like, now all
of a sudden that it's not being led

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by God. And I think that's
silly. I think churches, for the

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most part, are the pastors are
listening to God and the movement of the

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church and the Holy Spirit to see
where God is going and are being attentive

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that way, and the rest is
going to be flavoring and things that you

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like or that you don't like based
on your own particular palette. But don't

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put that on. Don't put that
on them. That's not fair to just

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cramp it down their throat. It's
not fair. Jane. Welcome to the

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Jesus Christ Show. Hid Hi Jane. How can I help him? My

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dear had a frog in my throat? That's okay, get him out.

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I did cost him up, excellent, it could It could be worse.

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It could be a series of frogs
or locusts or frogs. Not so bad

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about hoss. Yes, well,
how can I help you, my dear.

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I have a lit cross that hangs
on a gutter on the back side

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of my house. It was kind
of an afterthought with our lit up Christmas

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decorations, and when we took the
Christmas things down, we decided to leave

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the cross up and I turned it
on every night for about an hour.

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And a neighbor told my husband yesterday
two doors away that he could see it

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in the reflection of the window of
the house across the street, and he

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found it extremely offensive offensive to have
a cross shining in the neighbor's window across

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the street. And I walked over
last night to see if that was true,

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and he had to really cran his
neck to be able to see it.

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But that's beside the point. At
Christmas, he had a great,

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big peace symbol it up in his
window, and I didn't go tell him

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and offended me. But that's not
the point. My first reaction was not

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a good one, and I thought
I'd go up and give him a piece

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of my mind. But I don't
have a lot to spare because I'm getting

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older, so I decided not to
do that. You may not get it

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back, Yeah, that's true.
And I decided, well, I looked

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at some scripture and realized that I
needed to take the cross down. If

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I love because I'm a follower of
yours, the loving thing to do would

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be to take the cross down.
My question for you is should I write

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him a note and tell him in
a very nice way why I'm taking it

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down. I'm not taking it down
because I'm afraid of him, or the

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only reason I'm taking it down is
because I don't want to offend him.

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I'm more concerned about loving him,
and the loving thing, and the peaceful

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thing to do in the neighborhood would
be to take it down. So should

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I let him know or should I
just take it down. Well, look,

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there's a couple of things going on
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someone that you have problems with or
you've never encountered other problems? Actually know

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him? He came to our home. We had a Christmas tea and he

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came and everything was very pleasant.
Has he voiced that he has a differing

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belief than you? Well, I
don't know. We didn't talk about our

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belief I assume he probably does.
With the piece symbol in his window when

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everybody else had Christmas decorations, but
nothing, you know, we didn't bring

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it up, We didn't tell We
were all very pleasant. There's been a

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problem. So during during the Christmas
time holiday, he put up just the

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the crow's foot, the little chicken
foot peace symbol, very big eight foot

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one in his window. But that
was his business. He has a freedom

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to do that. Of course,
we put up a big lit Nativity scene

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in our front yard with the cross
in the background. I see. So

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this is in the front yard of
the backyard that you have. This cross

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is hanging on a gutter on the
back side of the house, but you

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can see it from the front of
the house and that's why it's there.

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I kind of left it up because
of this business with the cross out in

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the desert that people really have to
go out of the way to see,

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and somebody wants it taken down.
The memorials to the veterans, and I

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thought, Okay, this is private
property, not a lot of people going

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to see it. But if everybody
that believes put across up, people wouldn't

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have to go to the desert to
see one. Well, I understand where

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you're coming from, and I do. I do completely here that it's frustrating

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when it's your own property and the
like. But if the purpose is to

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bring peace and understanding to one another
via this symbol, that really, I

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mean, it is just a symbol. There's you know, there are two

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guys died next to me on crosses
as well. It's more about the resurrection

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that brings that piece of hope.
And in this particular case, if it's

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offensive um uh to somebody like that, and it's it doesn't change your house,

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it's not you're not superstitious. It
means nothing to you as far as

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superstition, and um then I think
that it is a beautiful sentiment for you

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to to take the higher road and
to love end quote your enemy or your

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neighbor through through this. And there's
nothing wrong with you writing a note and

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saying it has come to my attention
that the cross bothers you. Um it.

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It brings me great peace and joy
to see it lit up for that

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hour each night. UM. But
I would never want my peace or joy

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to infringe on your own. And
so I'm taking it down. UM.

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I hope that this is you know, not to be nasty or anything.

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Um uh you know, Uh,
My my goal is to for us all

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to live in this neighborhood, um, being friendly and helping one another,

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and you know, please always let
us know. And if it's something we

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can do, we will do.
Thank you, you know, and just

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have that kind of attitude. Not
nan or nan or nan or or or

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yeah I took this down because of
you, your big jerk and or anything

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like that, because that doesn't really
it's a hard that then it becomes a

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pride issue. Uh and uh and
and do it that way, I think

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is the more loving and peaceful way
to bring it about. And not hey,

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you put up a peace symbol and
I put up this or what and

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don't look for things that he's doing
that you can shoot back at or anything

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like that. Just leave it at
that and say, well, I was

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happy to have it for the time
that I did, and it infringed on

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other people, and I will respect
that, knowing that you live in a

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community that communes with one another,
and and leave it at that. But

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I think you have the healthy and
the proper attitude. Jane, Thank you,

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You're very welcome. Thank you.
I know it's frustrating, and I

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know that there's it's going to be
some of you that may disagree with that

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and say no, you're stand strong
and hold it up. But here's the

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thing. It's it's this attitude where
where you're just trying to protect that symbol,

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and really what you want to protect
is what the symbol stands for,

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right which is Christianity, which is
the following of Christ, which is the

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tenets of Scripture and the importance and
the beauty and the justice of scripture and

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your freedom to express that in the
United States. That's what you're trying to

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protect. And if that's what you're
trying to protect, then it's not about

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the symbol. It's never about the
symbol. I know that that in that

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context, you're any more than your
marriage is about the wedding ring. That

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those things are symbols, outward symbols. So the world knows, but the

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world should know that you're a Christian
in many different ways that have nothing to

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do with jewelry or affectations, you
know, a koutraman or things around the

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house. Your faith should be worn
on the very expression of who you are

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and what you do in life,
the way you act. This very act

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of taking down that cross in this
context, the very act of showing that

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restraint and loving a neighbor and saying
goodness, gracious. That was never my

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intent to offend. So please take
this action of me removing the cross from

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my lighted cross as a sign of
peace and understanding. That becomes a very

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powerful note because I guarantee if somebody
went to someone with that attitude and says,

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take your peace symbol down off of
your window, they go, no,

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forget you, I'm going to do
what I'm going to do, and

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you really it really shows the nature
of a person, not what they say

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or how they act, but how
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shows the character of the individual.
And I think Jane obviously has on an

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immense amount of character and faith.
Her faith isn't wrapped up in a piece

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of plastic or a piece of metal
or a piece of wood. Her faith

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is wrapped up in her heart and
no one can ask you to take that

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down. Throughout the existence of the
United States, you've seen that this goes

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back and forth. Jane even cited
one herself that there's this kind of war

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on the symbols of Christianity. Now
you can, you know, you can

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look at things like other pagan belief
systems and it's a okay. The Jack

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O'Lantern and the black cat, which
these types of things, even if they're

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fanciful recreations or representations of them,
that they can you can put those up

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in a school and there's no problem. But you have to call a Christmas

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tree holiday tree, or you can't
put any of these symbols up because they

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represent Christianity. And yes, there's
a double standard, get used to it.

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There are also others that fight for
in God, we trust on money

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and one nation under God in the
Pledge of Allegiance, when that wasn't even

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originally in the Pledge of Allegiance.
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the country was less God focused when
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So be careful what you fight for. It's not that those things aren't worth

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fighting for at times, and there
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on your freedoms as well as a
standpoint of being an American that you should

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have that ground. But more importantly
than any of the symbols or any of

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those statements, you know what would
mean more to me than it's saying God

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we trust on your money. What
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trusted God truly, honestly and in
the depths of your heart. That has

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more value and means more to me
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a dollar bill. So I think
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actions, speaking loudly and showing the
character who you are, I think that's

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more powerful. And now this guy
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feeling like he had a victory in
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it's not What does that even mean? If you have it on for an

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hour or two, it's no big
deal. But why fight that and have

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him further dig his heels into the
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and another reason to fuel the fires
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whatever it might be that make him
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by a cross is a bizarre thing. You can drive up and down streets

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all over the place and see that
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their doorposts. I for one,
find that beautiful. I smile every time

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I see one at the that symbol
of an outward faith that is deep within

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an individual. And if somebody doesn't
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it. But people searching and the
different beliefs out there and all of that

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is a thing of beauty. The
purpose, the hope is that they obtain

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truth. And it's not just for
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or those things, but it's truly
truth seeking. And some people that will

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be a turn off to, and
there's others that will appreciate it and understand

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it for what it is. But
my concern foremost, always above everything is

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going to be what's in your heart, not what's hanging on a wall.

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Mike, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Thank you, Jesus, thank

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you for taking my call, my
pleasure. How can I help you?

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Well, I've known many friends over
the years from different religions that all believe

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in Jesus, and they also believe
even God and pray to one God,

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and they have good families and everything. And they'll tell me that because I

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believe Jesus is God, that I
can't go to Heather. Oh. Well,

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they're sound like fine friends, but
bad theologians. That that's really part

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of Christianity, an essential And if
you remember when I was talking with the

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disciples, often I would ask them
and who do you say that I am?

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That that was a huge importance to
their belief because if they had some

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sort of false notion as to who
I was, then they were no longer

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important to the cause of growing Christianity. So will you find in scripture a

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place where I say the words I
am God? No? Never, But

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you do find throughout scripture statements that
are the equivalent, especially two thousand years

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ago. Uh. For instance John
ten thirty I say I and the Father

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are one. Uh. That's a
major claim. So John ten thirty three.

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Also, um, if you remember, they tried to stone me for

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that very reason, and it's you
know, which good work do you stone

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me? Well, they're not stoning
me because they want to. They're stoning

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me because I'm making a proclamation of
deity. And I love to go to

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John because that is the deity of
Christ. They find in John John eight

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fifty eight. Yes, and including
John you know one one which is you

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know in the beginning was the word, the word good God, and the

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word was God. But then one
of these religions they have a Bible that

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says God was a god, a
god small gee. And then it's like

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my Bible is wrong or something.
Okay, well here's the thing. There's

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there's a bunch more. John eight
fifty eight is a great example. I

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tell you the truth. Before Abraham
was born, I am that that word

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I am is a Hebraic reference that
is incredibly power powerful at the time,

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and so much so that again based
on Leviticus levitical law, they wanted to

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stone me. So um, the
John one one verse gets difficult. And

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although it's a great verse, in
the beginning was the word, the word

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was with God, and the word
was God. And the word became flesh

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later on in fourteen. But the
problem with that is that in the Greek

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um there's there. It's a little
convoluted. So technically the verse that they're

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saying, hey, it can be
translated this way, they're right, Oh

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no, no, it can be. However, it's not proper translation in

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the Greek. So I'm not going
to get into all the complications because there

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are many as to why why it
can be translated that way. But context,

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context, and we're running out of
time, so I want to get

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a few things out. Context does
not allow it. So yes, is

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it grabbed grammatically a possibility? Yes? Is it a possibility in context of

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the verse? Absolutely not. So
well can I go to heaven? Though?

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Jesus as my main question that can
they go to heaven if they pray

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to God for intercession? And I
do believe in Jesus, I do know

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anymore than if you if you won't
find the same place. If you dial

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a phone number and you get the
last two digits wrong, but everything else

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was done with good intent, and
you really believe in the area code was

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right and all that you're you're not
going to get the same person. I

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would also ask you to go to
Acts twenty twenty eight and a very good

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one is John twenty twenty eight that
talks about Thomas. If you remember,

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he says ikusmuthus moon in the Greek. He says the Lord of me,

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the God of me, and that
would be and I don't correct him.

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I don't correct him at all.
And if that was, if he was

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wrong, it would be blasphemy.
And I would have corrected him because he

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was calling me God. He wasn't
saying oh my God, which is what

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that particular group that comes knocking on
your door will tell you. But that

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would have been using God's name in
vain, and he would have been reprimanded.

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I didn't reprimand him. Remember,
more importantly than all this nuttiness,

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these words, I Am with you
always kf I AIX on demand

