It is a big cut breakdown. Donald jokes out Frizzier with you and they
comprehensive look around the Big twelve. And as we begin each and every week,
Tom or hot takes in the conference. This week my hot take,
I'm gonna go with this. I'm gonna go ahead and predict this right now.
And this might not be an ought take some people, but I'm gonna
put this out there in the universe. I believe Tom that if Alabama wins
out, including an SEC Donal win over Georgia, that they are gonna leap
frog Texas, whether they rightfully should or not, I think they will leap
frog Texas in the pecking order for the College Football Playoff. That if it
came down to it, if Alabama wins out, I would expect them to
get in over Texas with the momentum, with how much better they played as
of late, with win over the number one team, I would be surprised
to see an Alabama team left out and and uh, you know, not
seed in that scenario, I think that they would The committee would give them
the edge based on how we've seen the rankings, how much they they've catered
towards the SEC I mean, Miszoo is ahead of Louisville right now with the
worst record. I think that's the direction we're headed if that works out the
way it does. Really, I mean, that's pretty hot. You're saying,
a big TOT champion Texas team with one loss and a win over Alabama
gets over a SEC champ that's already been beat. I guess they would only
have one loss at that point as well. Okay, I'm saying, I
mean, I think the committee, based on just you know, how they've
been voting and everything, And I'm not saying I agree with this, but
I think the committee, if they if they have to choose, if Alabama
wins out and beach Georgia, They're gonna put Alabama in the playoff over Texas.
So you're saying, at that point, it would be the winner of
Michigan Ohio State one, Georgia two or maybe three. Well, no,
no, no, Alabama would jump up there. Who would be one?
Alabama? Uh? The Michigan Ohio State winner would be one uh, and
then the PAC twelve champ Washington Oregon would be up there, and then Florida
State would be up there, and then Alabama would be up there because you
couldn't have a rematch, right, not one, verse four, two,
verse three? Right. I think Georgia I could see that. I think
Georgia. Would I get left out at that point too? Georgia really yeah,
I would love to see I mean, man, Georgia getting left out
would be something special. As much as I hate Texas, I would hate
that for Texas a little bit, just because if you take away the name,
I think they've had a great season. They had. Their only loss
was to OEU, and it was close in a rivalry game and a neutral
site. I mean, say Texas, Tom like the brand and how annoying
they are. This is actually, as much as I hate him, in
one of the most likable Texas teams in my lifetime. Like Sark is a
very humble, quiet guy. I have nothing in Stark at all. Quinn
Yours is easy going. Like you know, if if they weren't worrying burnt
orange, we would not hate them. Yeah, there's not a hatable player
on the team like I hated Tom Irman. Who is that long haired hippie
son of a bitch linebacker? Oh yes, I know who you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, piece of shit. He's not obviously on the team
like they're they're really Texas is in two different ways. Texas is easy to
hate and Texas is hard to hate this year. It's the jersey they wear
that's really it in their fans, right, I mean, because I mean
there's not they haven't had controversy. There's not been any like team morests,
nobody beating their wife or girlfriend. That's been one of the ironies about Sark
too, is like he is the quietest Texas coach I've ever seen. Like
I like Mac Brown too, but he ran his mouth. Charlie was a
fake tough guy. Tom Herman was an asshole. Like Shark just keeps to
himself, you know. And and he wears those hideous windbreaker vests. I
mean, he's he doesn't draw attention to himself, you know, he's just
all gass, no breaks. I mean yeah, and he doesn't really you
know, he's not drawing the headlines to himself. He just you know,
he's pounding the rock and getting the job done. Now, they haven't had
the most convincing of wins, and I think Jones, to your point,
I think that's why they could be left out. If they were just kicking
everybody's ass. Uh, then okay, then you can't leave Texas out.
And unfortunately for Florida State, with the injury to Jordan Travis, that has
has uh you know, murcyed the water a little bit in terms of what's
gonna happen. Even if Florida State finishes out. I don't think they could
leave them out, but they would want to. Can't leave out an undefeated
Florida State even without George trap I mean no, they wouldn't, but they
would want to. Yeah, they would want to. Jones hot take of
the week here. As much as I just jacked off, Texas need to
go throw up. Here's my hot take of the week. Texas Tech on
Friday upsets the Long Horns in Austin. O s U wins versus b YU,
and we see the Big Twelve Championship get decided in terms of people who
are gonna play Our teams are gonna play in it by pharmageddon. Yeah,
that's my hot take. Tech upsets Texas. O s U would need K
State to win. Granted that OU obviously beats CCU, but Texas is pretty
much in no matter what, either one or two seed that doesn't really matter.
It really just depends on what side the fans are gonna sit on.
Texas loses the Tech, OSU beats b YU, but has to either rely
it has to rely on k State to get the job done to get in,
and if Iowa State wins, that'll be a Red River shootout. I'm
gonna say Texas beat ticket Tech beats Texas, OSHU beats b YU, and
I like Case State to be a Hateful eight savior, so that because that's
what you want to happen, or what you actually think is going to have,
Well, what I want to happen is to Texas to go ahead and
win it a verse Tech and then OSHU to beat b Yu. So Saturday
night, I'm already looking at tickets without having to fucking watch Pharmageddon in Purple.
I just I just like to add a little chaos and stress to my
already weak heart. So I Texas, Me and Billy talked about this friend
of the show. Billy Locke talked about Texas wouldn't necessarily lose on purpose because
they have the college football Playoff appearance, and tell me if if you think
this is true, and I like to think better, but Brett or Mark
kind of looks like a sneaky mob snake that would make some things happen with
money. If Texas loses the tech OHU beats TCU and OSU comes on top
of BYU. I think to avoid a red river shootout, red river robbery,
whatever you want to call it, in the Big Tot Championship. I
wouldn't be shocked if Brett Yormark called Matt Campbell and said, here's two hundred
and fifty dollars or two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, blow the game against
k Hey. We've seen an Iowa State in gambling before, so I mean
Matt Campbell, they said, here's here's a quarter of a million dollars.
You know, coach it, but lose to K State. You already enter
in a bowl game. You're not going to make the Big Total Championship for
the Hateful A lose this game to K State, you know, would you
rule that out completely? I think that's it's a little out out there,
but it's not entirely impossible. Uh. There has been some weird stuff going
on of you know, these tiebreaker rules and all this, and we've heard
that after Friday there will be an update to the the tiebreakers situations, according
to the League office after Friday. Uh so that's a little weird. Officiating
of course, has been that great this year, you know. I mean,
there's some weird stuff going on, but we'll see. I would I'll
say this like, I'll be surprised if stuff doesn't hold serve, Like,
yeah, I'd be really shocked. At Texas. I don't think O losing.
I don't think Oh Issues losing. I don't think K State's losing.
I would be very surprised if any of that happens this week, but it
remains to be seen. Speaking of Farm again, by the way, let
me bring up this point real quick, Tom, I gotta say we were
talking about the victual schedule lease while back. That is the longest running rivalry
in all of college football now and it's coming to an end, the annual
rivalry in twenty twenty seven, and that and damn shame. I hope that
we get the schedule figured out and get that change before then. But at
least the way things stand right now, uh, that that that that's terrible
to see that rivalry come to an end every year. That that they should
play that every year for for for the next one hundred years. Yes,
and that's the bad thing that that big trope came out and said, oh,
we want to protect rivalries. They protect the Holy War and they protect
TCU. Was it called blue Bonnet Bowl or the blue Bonnet TCU b YU?
Yeah, Oh well then no, no, no, not tcby TSU
Baylor, Yeah, Baylor. Did they call it the blue Bonnet Bowl or
the blue Bonnet Rivalry something like that? Yeah? Stupid named after a flower.
Those flowers are pretty, but stupid. But you don't want to protect
farm Ageddon like you don't want to protect man, I like farming. Yeah,
I mean, you don't want to protect the milf. What that game
back at Arrowhead again, and that was awesome when it was there years ago.
I mean yeah, I mean and and you know this year they're playing
on potential snow on the ground, right is what the forecast holds, and
so it could be an epic game. And you know, I'm glad there's
a couple more years at least. I think the league I think they'll figure
it out. I think I think they'll it'll get down to it and they'll
be like, well, we can't not have this game and then they'll be
like, yeah, we gotta we'll just change some shit around real quick.
Well, because it's not like it's that hard to do. It's not changing
non cons there's no contracts in place. I did hear one possibility that case
Stay and Iowa State might end up playing each other as an non conference game
to keep that rivalry streak alive. That'd be pretty cool because that'd be a
big fe you the Big twelve, like, well, we'll just do you
know, fuck it, we'll do it live right because k State already has,
uh the Colorado game they have to find another opponent for since Colorado is
going to be in the league now and they had a non conference series schedule
with Colorado for that that that twenty twenty seven year. Mm hmm. So
let's see nonetheless, Uh, let's let's talk about Texans real quick, and
that that college football playoff thing, the playoff Franklins that came out in this
week time where everything lies there Georgia one, Ohio State two, Michigan three,
Washington for Florida State five, Oregon six, Texas seven, Alabama eight,
Miszoo nine, Woulisville ten. I know there's the right call to move
Washington to fourth the leap frog them had of Florida States. But we are
very close to chaos here. I mean we mentioned you just a couple of
losses here, I mean you very well Tom could have this week. Let's
say Oregon loses to Oregon State, but then beats Washington next week in the
Back twelve title game. You know what if Alabama beats Georgia in the SEC
championship. What about the possibility of Florida State losing to Florida or Louisville one
of the next two weeks. Here a realistic possibility. I am rooting for
Chaos. I want all hell to break lose over these next two weeks.
I think if it's not your team, your team doesn't have a chance at
least well at the playoff. I don't want I don't want Chaos to break
loose in the Big twelve Championship, obviously because my team's involved. But if
your team's not involved in any of that, if you don't root for Chaos,
you're a boring person. This Michigan Ohio State game feels like an elimination
game. Who are you rooting for? Can I root against both of them.
Well you can, but if you had to pick one lesser two evils,
I know lesser two evils this year is Ohio State without question. Well,
I mean personal values and things like that. I will you hate more.
I hate Michigan more right now, for for a number of reasons.
There. Yeah, there's one reason that I think we share. Well,
we won't mention on the show, right right, but we're I'll be in
Ohio State this week, guy, this week and this week only y'all be
Ohio State. I mean they're you know, they're an OSU team, so
that I mean, you know, funny enough. I have to root for
them for that, but come playoff, I will not. I don't root
for Ohio State. They got your favorite defensive coordinator, Jim Knowles, Yeah
they do. They stole them away, those money grubbing son of a bitches
or maybe oh she's just cheap. But Brian Nardo's doing a bang up job,
so uh you know, so I'm fine with that. But yeah,
I got a root. I got a root for Uh. I gotta rofer
State. Here's how I see this week play out. I think Georgia wins.
I hate to admitted, but I think Michigan's gonna be Ohio State.
I think Washington wins Florida State. I think it's gonna be very close to
Florida, but Florida's without their quarterback as well. Both teams playing backups are
like Florida State there and then Alabama to beat Auburn, Louisville to beat Kentucky.
I think things kind of hold serve this week, but we could see
things get crazy for Championship week next week. Yeah, let's yeah, let's
hold off the chaos and you know we can. We can hold off the
chaos until chaos waits one week, and you know that favors my team,
so I'm fine with it. I'm ready for the chaos in Arlington. All
right, let's go to the big twelfth plate of games this week, starting
with Friday, Oklahoma and TCU final game for Dylan Gabriel. They got the
cougar tail last week. Those donuts looked really good. By the way,
I would love to have cougartail. Maple donuts are my favorite, that foot
long and a half maple donut. I could. I could have a cougar
tail in more ways than one. Yeah, I don't know if I could
I don't know if I could do eighteen inches of cougartail. But oh,
you taking my bad TCU team. No reason why Okahoma should have win this
one, big. I think Dylan Gabriel goes out with a nice performance in
his final home game there in Norman. Is he supposed to start they've cleared
him? Good question. I believe believe that he is going to be back.
But if not, I think, you know, Jackson Arvis should be
fine too. I'm gonna be at this game too, But oh you are
going. I am going. I'm going to this game, and I might
be going to Oklahoma State BYU as well. Might do a little doubleheader weekend
here. You're gonna be rooting for the Mormons, of course not. I'll
a oklahol Ova here. Texas take on Texas Tech. You've already put it
out in the universe. You like Texas Tech to win this game? Tom,
what's it gonna take for Tech to pull off the upset here? I
mean they're gonna have to play mistake free. They have. They have Brookes,
who's a pretty good running back. Doak Walker semi finalist, not the
best running back of the Big Twelve, but he's up there, and so
I think they're gonna have to find a way to run against this Texas team
that I think has eyes on the playoff. I think I think they could
catch them uh in Austin a little down pat and I think they I think
if they end up winning, I think it's uh. I think it's maybe
by like four, forcing Quinn u Ors to throw down the field for a
game winning touchdown. I don't think. I don't think Brett Auburn is gonna
miss a game tying air game winner for Texas. Real quick U c F
Man Houston U c F trying to get bo l Jewell there at home here
uh U c F John Ryves pummeling company. I expect him to have a
big day. Like they understand the assignment here, they should be a big
Houston here. Houston has nothing left to play for. They're packing it in
U c F Big O s U B y U B YU. They don't
win games, but they played teams tough like oh you last week and some
of these other teams throughout the year. I know OLSU is not necessarily playing
their hottest right now, Tom, but if they can get the run game
going, you can't beat Oklahoma State when they run the football well. As
simple as that, and just the matchup here, there's no reason why issues
shouldn't been run the football well. I think the points spread was way too
high for this game. I think win it. I think OSU. I
don't think it's beat a team besides Cincinnati by seventeen all year, so I
don't expect them to, you know, get the job done in terms of
the spread. But both of these teams have something to play for. One
has Bowl eligibility, the other has Big twelve Championship eligibility to play for.
They're at home. OSU's played pretty well at home sans one game this year.
I think OSU for that reason alone, and the fans knowing what's at
stake. It's not an eleven am kick, it's two thirty last two thirty
kick and still water and end up pretty damn good. I like this one
to be the same route West Virginia and Baylor. West Virginia seven and four,
Baylor at three eights. At the beginning of the year time, I
don't think anyone would have expected that it would be roles reversed. As far
as coaches in the hot seat goes West Virginia. Assuming they win this game.
Neil Brown gets eight wins with maybe the worst roster in the conference this
year and Baylor about to finish up with a three and nine season. Dude,
does Baylor fire? Dave A. Randa, I don't think so.
I think he's got one more year and then if he does, if he
makes, if he doesn't compete for the Big twelve next year in terms of
like maybe top four, he's gone. Credit to our sweet prints, Neil
Brown for making it another year and having a very decent season there with the
Mountaineers, and it sounds like they want Jimbo Fisher though, oh god,
you know fans want Jimbo Fisher. You don't want Jimbo. You don't want
the Jimbo experience West Virginia. I know he's one of their own and everything,
but you know you don't want that. Kay. You taking on Cincinnati?
Uh man, Kay, you could have beat k State last week.
Jason Bean was supposed to play. He did not. But credit to de
Ballard this, you know freshman walk On who's played very well last couple of
weeks. You know they couldn't get the job done in the fourth quarter stopped
running the ball with Devin neil Moore. You know, they they need to
run the ball more with him than than they have been. Cincinnati is not
very good here Kansas, you win this one, you end the losing streak,
you finish out the regular season. Eight and four. Still still a
great year for the Jayhawks. Oh, I mean, they're gonna get a
decent bowl and and what was the first time if they win this game,
I think it'll be the first time their win total has been this high since
Mangino was around. Yeah, I mean I like them to do that.
This is this should be easy for them. And and I think quarterback room
probably the best of the Big twelve the way it looks. So there's a
lot of things that could have went better for KU this year, but still
a lot of things that went right. Yeah, And Jaylen Daniels announced he's
coming back next year, taking a medical red shirt for the rest of this
year, and then he'll be back next year for his Super Super Senior season.
With didn't he didn't want to play for Lincoln Riley. I don't blame
him. I don't blame him. What a fraud that guy is. Do
you think you know us. He's got some buyer's remorse right now. Yeah,
I mean yeah, probably, I mean Cayler Williams great. Uh,
you know for them, a lot of a lot of media attention on them,
probably the most media attention on USC since maybe the Red Bush days.
Yeah, so we'll see and then farm again. KSE State taking on Iowa
States. Iowa State one of the biggest surprises in the league this year.
A lot of people thought they would fold and that this could be it for
Matt Campbell mid the gambling scandal and all that. But they've weathered the storm.
They're six and five. The game is in Manhattan. KSE States ten
point favorites here. Well, Howard's playing good dead offense is clicking. I
don't see k State having any issues. If this game was in Aims,
maybe a little different. But at home in Manhattan on a Saturday night,
I expect k State to be just fine. Maybe some snow involved that that
could make some things pretty interesting. I think hopefully this hopefully this game doesn't
matter by the time we get there in terms of Big twelve, who's gonna
play who? Because I'm sure the viewers are, I'm sure the Raids people
would love, uh for the for this game to end up like that,
because all eyes will be on in Manhattan if it If it ends up the
way I think, or at least my hot tape thinks it will be right
right. Let's start a little victual hoops real quick, uh, and then
we'll move on here. Tom got to bring this up. Let's start off
with the Jayhawks, the loss that they suffered to Marquette, a little scuffle
there with Shaka, that fraud, and then they bounce back and beat Tennessee.
I know they expected to win the Maui Invitational, Uh, but ultimately
they come away with, you know, a third place prize, two and
one, and you get the Tennessee win, but you lose the Marquette.
They were gonna lose somebody at some point in time. Uh. At the
end of the day, I know that that's the saur taste in their mouth
for them not to win the MALLI. But a loss to a top five
two on a neutral site isn't the end of the world. I mean that
that Kansas team's gonna be fine. They've already beat Kentucky, you know,
yeah, they'll be fine. Lucky at Tennessee SEC Champs right, So,
I mean I think you're fine overall and and for what it's worth, I
mean, we talked about it before the show, that the d Wade effect.
How do you stop that? Right? Every time Marquette has been the
number one team ever he's been in the building. The other thing with Kansas,
I'll say this real quick. You know, Hunter Dickinson looks as good
as any player in the country. kJ Adams has been good, McCuller has
been awesome. You know, Dewant Harris is one of the top point club
in the country. Their top four positions, they're as good as any team
in America, probably the best team in America went through four, but they
don't have much beyond that five and the rest of the bench. That's when
for the team is lacking, and we saw that get exposed. It's more
kids, Uh, Houston, Tom, you and I talked last week and
said, hey, this is a team that's you know, was preseason top
ten team. I think they're like the number two team in Ken Palm right
now, six in the country. But they had a weak ass schedule for
a non con and this is not up to snuff for what Big twelve teams
playing their non con Now we fast forward a couple of weeks. You know
later, you did win the Shiners Children's Charleston Classic, which is the worst
of those Beast Week tournaments. By the way, you beat you you beat
Dayton. I mean that's cute. But now we're about to really find out
what Houston's all about. He get Xavier here in a couple of days.
They get Texas A and M a week or so after that. Like,
now, now I feel like I'm really about to find out what Houston's actually
about. Oh, I mean, yeah, there, I wouldn't say.
I mean, you know, you win the games they're supposed to, so
give them the credit for that. But uh, you know it's still yet
to be seen in in what capacity that how good this Houston team's gonna be,
uh you know what, we'll see it until they I guess, until
they falter. Yeah, yeah, I think so. And then one more
time, I want to bring up Texas. They lost to Yukon the other
night. Uh, Yukon was stacked. They may even be better than what
they were last year, lost them by ten at the Garden. Max Aismith's
former or Roberts Starr took them to the tournament a couple of years ago,
and you know, he's been incredible. He's on to the kind of a
slow start since joining the Longhorn so far this year, had ten points against
Yukon, fourteen against Louisville. His best game was a nineteen point performance that
he had against Delaware. Stage. That's a guy, Tom. You know,
he's still getting acclimated. Uh you know, once he gets going here,
what do they say, guards winning March. I'm looking out for Texas
and Max Asmis. That's a team that as we get closer to March and
everything, i'd keep my eyes on because he's he's one big in March before.
It's gonna take him a little bit of time to adapt, but once
he does, Texas is gonna be a sneaky team to watch. Yeah,
they are. And I mean I think for the most part the top you
know, maybe six seven teams in the Big twelve or it's gonna be you
know again, like we say every year, it's just gonna be. It's
gonna be a freaking gaunt again. And we've got to expect that. And
that's what made this you know, has made this league so strong. So
I'm looking forward to it, yeah, I think so, uh more to
come stick around, join us now the program. This week, old friend
uncle Joe is back with us, co host of the b BO Boys podcast,
survivor of local News, and he judged us right now. Joe Scamblon,
always a pleasure of my friend. Welcome back to the program. How
we doing surviving local news? That is acurate? Tyler doing good though?
How you doing? Man? I do it well? Do it well?
It's pleasure. And uh, by the way, Randon you at the Rangers
parade a couple weeks ago, that was welcome back to Texas. How about
that for everybody crowded the streets of Arlington to welcome you back. Uh,
it was all for Joe Scambon. Yeah, and so I'm moving back to
Arlington here. And I was like at the I was at the pre I
was standing there for the Texas Kansas State game. But you know, I
got there on Friday and I have no idea the Rage is going to win
the World Series. I was like, well why not? When? What
are they gonna do it again? And clearly they didn't think they were ever
gonna win because that parade took forever. That Oh my gosh. I had
a great time, but that parade kind of sucked. It was like one
truck would come down to make the turn and go down and then we'd be
like, where's the next truck? Awful? Awful. It was clear Arlington
doesn't have to do. But it was still fun. It was still a
great time. It was a little bit of a hot day. But I
was telling my buddy, I was like, man, I can't wait to
move back to Arlington. I'm not going to see anyone I recognized. And
I saw ten people I recognized at that parade. I was like, are
you kidding me right now? Yeah, a small town there. And the
next time the Rangers is when the World Series, Let's move the parade to
downtown Dallas. Let's get let's get out of the small town Arlington. You
know, oh dang, Dallas didn't pay for that stadium. We did Arlington
people, the little man complex of Arlington. You had to even take the
Renegade's name and be the Arlington Renegades that the World Champions. By the way,
I remember, you know, I used to do XFL stuff, and
honestly I've stopped. I don't like the new product at all. We don't
need to get into that, but I'm the rock, that's all I gotta
say, the Rock. Well, welcome back to the DFW area. Glad
to have you back. Man. Let's talk about something that I'm sure you're
very excited about. That is your Texas Longhorns just one win away from clinching
a spot in the Big Twelfth title game. And what a long road journey
this has been for Texas to get to this point, pretty close to potentially
getting the spot in the College Football playoff as well. Joe, how does
it feel to see where Texas is at now compared to just a couple of
years ago when Sark arrived and they were only winning four games and losing the
Kansas. Well, you didn't have to bring that up, Tyler, but
we were five and seven actually that year. Oh okay, it's good,
it's good. It's good to see. I knew this was gonna happen.
I had a good feeling. You got to give the new coaches a few
years. You gotta give them a few years, get their people in the
program, get their cultures going, because that culture was toxic as hell when
Tom I'm gonna left that program. And so it's It's good to see it
all pay off. It's good to see Sark Sark. I was actually at
the Iowa State Games past weekend and uh, Sark book's so fired up to
his tenth game, first time ever, first time ever, winning ten games.
So yeah, in any program, USC whatever time here, So you
know what tender thing with Sark. I was talking to a buddy, Thomas
spurns Is about this just a little while ago, and and we were saying,
you know, it's so different with Sark in this ut program. Now,
as an outsider, I'm used to hating Sam Allen Gerr and Charlie Strong,
and I can't really hate Sark at all. He's a quiet, humble
guy that's doing his things his way. He's not drawing a lot of attention
to himself. Gwinn Ewers isn't doing that either. They have taken a completely
different approach and mindset that to what we've seen previously. I mean, even
if you go back to Mac Brown, and I liked Mac, but Mac
was a talker and Mac did draw attention to himself. This is not what
Texas are doing at all. That's that's not the the who they are now
and the way they're building. This program is totally different than what we typically
talk about with with what goes on in Austin. Yeah, exactly, And
so I like, it's not so much but it's not so much humble,
but just show up, kick their ass and leave. And that's something my
old rival high schools to do to us in baseball. They would not talk
shit at all. They'd get it, they get off the bus, they'd
get in the dugout, they'd kick our butts and then they'd leave. And
so I think that's kind of the mantra. That's the that's the culture Stark
wants to build there. Although he did he did joll a bit because those
refts were terrible. I would state like those were they were fat. And
you see it five yards five five rowers up from the fifty yard line.
You see this, and uh, Tyler, I don't know what you think
about the Big Twelve rests, but I think I think Texas and OU fans
have a legitimate right on them. This year's OU's gotten some calls against them
too. Not AMIAT has been pretty bad in the Big Twelve this year.
The way I look at it, though, Joe, I don't know if
it's openly trying to take away from OU in Texas, like their fans would
like you to think. I think that it's just been bad officiating all around.
Like cool. I mean, I've watched, you know, every Kansas
game this year, and there's times I've looked at it and I've said,
they're not trying to screw us, They're just bad at their job. Gotcha.
Hey, maybe that's case. I haven't really watched a lot of like
outside Big twelve games, but I will say it was funny. We were
walking into the stadium and we saw like a tweet Brett yor Mark the humble,
non egotistical Big Twelve commissioner was at Iowa State and so we were yelling,
right, get off the phone, stop talking to the refts man.
So he's gonna be in Austin too this weekend. It's gonna be in Austin.
So you're yeah, yeah, oh God, is hedn't even go to
take did he? No? No, no, he said that he'd be
rooting for them to get the job done, said that before the season.
What a nice non biased mission we have there, can't we leave? But
but yeah, I know, back to Stark, I mean it's just it's
he's such a feel good story. It's a feel good story because you look
the way he did at Washington. He turned that program around, and think
Chris Peterson took him to higher levels. He goes to USC, he has
an alcohol problem, goes to rehab, takes care of it. Nick Saban
hires him on and now look at him. He's winning ten games. Like
I don't know, it's like a Disney movie almost, well even then,
like it wasn't all you know, rainbows, you know. He goes to
the NFL, replaces Kyle Shanahan is the Falcons offensive coordinator. Yeah. Remember
that was a disaster. Yeah, some guys just can't coach of the NFL.
Nick Saban couldn't. Nick Saban and Miami. Yeah, so yeah,
find your niche, You find your niche and some of those those Hey,
honestly, I wouldn't mind being a Hall of Fame college coach, to be
honest, not saying sark is yet, but like Nick Saban, first bout
Hall of Favor easily. There's your take right there, Nick Saban, first
bout Hall of Famer. H Yes, I know that's a really hot take
on hot take screeching hot take right there. With that said, when you
look at this Texas team going into this week against Texas Tech, what is
your confidence level of finishing the job and getting that number one seed going into
the Big twelve title game. So this team feels different than past teams.
But the last few years, there's always been one game they shouldn't lose that
they do. I want to say it was the Oklahoma game this year because
I always count Oklahoma as just a winner loss, and then there's another game,
so it's usually like too long, man, and then maybe so on
so forth some more. But so they they lose to Oklahoma, they probably
shouldn't have lost to Oklahoma with Quickley terrible in that first quarter. So I
don't know, man, I textaud come out on fire. But it is
in Austin. It is at night in Austin, which is better than at
night in Lubbock. So I think it's gonna be a close game, but
I think they get the job done. They go eleven and one, we
celebrate, and we go to the Big twelve title game next week. Yeah.
Man, From there, then your potential you're most likely play in Oklahoma
State, could play Case State or Oklahoma outside chance of that. How are
you feeling about those potential matchups? Who's the team that you would want to
see the most of those three? If we want to make the playoff,
Oklahoma, we gotta get the like what they did to us in twenty eighteen.
They got the revenge and made the playoff. If we play Oklahoma State,
though, you get and we win, we get scoreboard over every Big
twelve team other than O you because we're both going to the SEC. So
like to go have scoreboard over every team win your last game against every Big
twelve team would be just a just a cherry on top of the Sunday of
bullshit that the Big Twelve is. Joe, I have this this feeling that
Texas is gonna get screwed by the Committee. That if, oh yeah,
if Alabama wins out and beats Georgia in the SEC title game. I'm not
advocating for this at all. Let me be yeah, I got you,
but I have a sneaky suspicion that the Committee is going to jump Alabama head
of Texas and screw the Horns over here. Well, if they ever want
any respect from any college football fan ever again, they won't do that because
everyone, I think, even non Texas fans will be like, they beat
Alabama, how are you jumping them? How are you jumping them right now?
Because Alabama they struggled at the beginning. They struggleainst USF too. So
you know, Texas has won a couple of close games, but the town
level was a lot better than some of the teams that Alabama has played.
So I don't know how you could reasonably unless they kick the shit out of
Georgia in the Big twelve title game, I mean the SEC title game.
If they do that, fine, give them, give it fine. I
mean I could see it, but I still don't think. I still think
it had to head matters, doesn't matter if it's September November. Had to
head matters. Yeah, I mean, and it's not like that this was
a neutral site, close fifty to fifty game and those points on the road
a feat that what have happened one time in sixty something games? Yeah no,
I'm sorry, you don't you and that like they took care of business
like it was. It was not like it was close to at one point,
but they pulled away. They didn't just squeak by them like like they
did in Austin the year before game winning field goal. So I don't know,
man, I I really don't. I really hope that beat doesn't do
that. But we need other stuff that happen to We need uh Michigan to
get killed by our house date excremely I've heard we we need Washington. I
think Washington is gonna make it. Don't the game it was gonna be Washington
in the Pac twelve. I mean Florida State to lose to Florida or Louisville.
If that happens, then I think Texas squeaks in. Now, let's
here's another scenario here. Let's take Alabama out of the equation. Let's say
they lose Georgia, and what if it's down to a pactoral champion Oregon and
a Pact tworal champion in Texas. I know that the Committee as of late
has really liked that Oregon team, and that would include at that point a
win over Washington, avenging their one loss. But all the analytics and metrics,
Joe say Texas is better than Oregon. It's not even close here,
how do you think the Longhorns compare to Oregon? If it comes down to
those two. Well, I think strength and schedule needs to really be taken
into consideration because Oregon plays, you know, they play cupcakes. They you
know, Washington wasn't a cupcake. That was a good game, and so
if they get that revenge, that'll be good for them. But I think
could be. But you know, so if Washington gets if Oregon gets that
win over Washington, then you gotta looking straight to the schedule. You gotta
look at who these teams beat. How many top twenty five wins do they
have? I know Texas has at least like seven, So because bamp let's
see, let me look at the top tell of here, because I'm pretty
sure they have seven. It's uh that the because you know, what do
you think about it? Top twenty five even though some of these top twenty
five teams aren't are pretty good, you still got you know, there's still
ranked still top one have the nation? I mean, because so let's see
Texas has they beat Bama? That's one? Oh oh dang, well,
I guess everyone dropped out. Oops, that's not good. Can't state that's
two? Well, I guess everyone Well when they win, they played them,
they were in top twenty five. So Uh, dang it, everyone's
losing. That's that's not That's why I text, this was the top twenty
five team. Yeah, and I think that's got to count for something,
because you know, teams fall off, But how you played somebody I think
should go into a factor of hey, they were just good back then.
Yeah, I agree, didn't work out like like, I think Colorado is
a great example of that's a team that if you beat them early in the
year, like Oregon did, for example, that's a whole lot more valuable
I think than a win over Colorado. Now, yeah, exactly, No,
for sure, because yeah Colorado. Now, well Colorado, they came
out of nowhere, and I think I think Prime used that. He's the
element of surprise. No one knew what was gonna happen with Colorado, and
he run rode that to what there three though. Yeah, so and now
they after the after the after Shadira was telling his merch at halftime against Stanford,
I was like, oh no, oh no, that they lose there
and now they've just gone downhill. I'm they're not gonna make a bowl game
now. Actually I'm pretty sure. Yeah, they're not both eligible. Yeah,
that's incredible. Yeah, that's incredible. He started three and no they
needed three wins. They couldn't get it. Quinn yours. Let me ask
you about him? Uh we heard that Pete Thamble that very good chance he's
coming back next year. What's uh? What's the feeling there? Are you
glad that Quinn is coming back? Or were you ready for for Arts to
go over? I feel I think Quinn did need to come back for his
NFL's potential. I feel sad because Malak's gonna transfer. Leak is one hundred
transfering. I don't think Arts will transfer, I really don't. I think
he's a manning. He'll still get the team for three years and or Helly
might need just one or two wins Heisman. But but it's gonna be sack
because Malak's gonna transfer for sure. And he I think he was. He
was a lot better than when he showed. He didn't get a lot of
playing time, you know, so well, just well, it's gotta see
it because Quinn. Quinn's got an arm actually though I think he's still hurt.
He threw a screen pass at Iowa State. There was like level with
us that ball said, like just died it was like a four yard pass
and it died. He just didn't look like he had the same kind of
oomph on it like he normally does. So I think Quinn still. I
think Quinn Disney need to come back and pray doesn't hurt his ac joint again.
Well, I don't know how Quinn's good. He's good, but when
he's bad, he makes terrible decisions. Like the first core of the Ou
game. That second play, I was like, are you kidding me?
He threw it to three Ou people? Are you kidding me? Dude?
So we'll see. I mean, I think he will come back, and
I think the league does transfer, and I don't think Arch leaves. Everyone's
saying Arch is gonna leave. I don't think so. I think Mannings were
smart. You know, there's one possibility that that I was thinking about as
far as Quinn goes. I know that they're saying there's about a ninety percent
Chanceancy stays and all that. But if he plays great and they win the
Big Twelve and get to the playoff and get to the National Championship and he's
playing lights out at that point, what's the incentive for him to stay at
that point? I mean, you might have all the tape and everything you
need to be that first round pick and take Texas to a national title.
I think that's still possibility. I'll tell you this. And you know,
everything looks different when you're watching live, especially from five yards up. That
was incredible, seats, that was awesome. I love that. But his
feet are still happy. He's still thrown off his back foot, his mechanics
are still raw. And now it's it's curious because it's like he was the
number one rated quarterback of all time coming out of high school. You would
think he would have learned by now, but no, I don't know if
it's because the line. The line didn't play too bad, but you can
tell he's still needs work done. So can an NFL team do it?
Yeah? An NFL team could teach him stuff, but he wanted, Like
to be fair, he's from South Leake, doesn't need the money, but
uh that's a dig in Southlake. Sorry, but uh, you know,
any player wants to get you know what they're worth. And I think he
can be a first round draft pick. I don't think he is right now
though. I mean, I'll be honest, I like him better right now
than I did Anthony Richardson at this point last year? Oh wow, Yeah,
that was interesting how he got drafted what fourth right? Fourth overall?
Yeah, and he played fine as a rookie till he get hurt too,
Yeah, exactly. So it's interesting. So honestly, at this point,
the drafts kind of become just a shit show, honestly because no, you
have your your typical number one picks, Miles, Garrett, Baker, Mayfield,
those guys, But then you get that if he riches. I had
no idea. I thought he was going second round. I really did.
But Son Quinn could throw caution to the wind and see if the team will
pick him up early on in the first round or you know whatever. I
don't know how the money works out for first round picks, but second round
picks and whatnot. But uh, but I don't know. If he wants
to perfect his skills, I'd say come back another year. It's gonna hurt,
like I said, because Malik is really good, and he's gonna go
torch it somewhere else and that's gonna suck. We think he might go to
U C. L A. Actually he's from California, you see, is
gonna be quarterback. I don't know how he fits in with Chips Kelly's scheme,
but Skip's about to get fired, so I don't know. Okay,
well never mind, maybe once go play for Lincoln Riley shah yeah sure.
Oh you gotta be so happy as a nou fan. Grinch got fired.
I was like, finally, dude, like that that he honestly like in
this way. Don't hire your friends, man. This is what happened to
Tom Herman. He hired Todd Orlando and Tim Beck, and they hired Mike
Hears and they all sucked, but they were his friends, so he hired
him. No you can't. You can't do that, man, If you
want to be a winning program, you can't do that. And honestly,
I think Lincoln rally. I think Lincoln got He was the product of a
couple of good transfer quarterbacks. Oh, without question. Yeah, it's starting
to or yeah what three the foundation that was built by Bob Stoops. Yeah,
because yeah he came, and Baker came and right on the heels of
Stoops, right, yeah, Baker played a year under Stoops. Yeah yeah,
and then and then it was then it was Kyler, then it was
Jalen for a year. So yeah, no, I think I think Lincoln
lucked into He lucked into it, and you know, good for him.
He's getting paid millions of dollars and you see usc now, but he doesn't
turn around. Man, I don't know. And Caleb Williams, man,
apparently he's a bigger asshole than all Baker, Kyler and j Well, Jalen
wasn't an asshole, but Baker and Kylie, you know, they were known
for having too. It's apparently Caleb's worse from what I've heard. So yeah,
he'd see it, trying to mommy and painting the fingernails and all that.
Oh god, the crying in the stand that killed me. That absolutely
killed me because it was it wasn't even his first loss, like Kyler losing
for the first time ever in his like life, oh you red River twenty
eighteen. I get maybe crying a little bit, but like he at least
he did it in private, right Cal's sitting there, like, come on,
man, it's a game. It's a game, has some fun.
How are you feeling about uh Texas in their mood the sec right now or
do they look sec ready to do you? Some days yes, some days
no. They look good against the Alabama I thought they could. They can
hang with I think they can hang with pretty much any SEC team. I
think they'll have, you know, the obvious trouble with Georgia with Bama,
with LSU do'nna SLU gets worse. But I think that I think they're gonna
hold they're on. I think, oh you is too, I really,
I really do. And now I you know, I hate to give a
you credit, you know, being a Texas fan, but I really think
people are overplaying this whole. You are gonna make it in the SEC because
I'm looking at Mississippi State, Arkansas. Missouri's actually having a decent year.
So is Ole, miss Florida, like name a name, name a better
team than Alabama, Georgia. And I don't think elis Houston to win.
They good this year. I think they have like what three or four losses?
Oh yeah. So the thing for me that I think is going to
be difficult for Oklahoma and Texas going to the SEC is just the week the
week grind. I mean, you look at it now, there's weeks where
Oklahoma and Texas are playing right now, teams like you know, the Houston
YU eyus, you know, of the world, and now they're gonna be
going from all right, we got Alabama one week, old miss the next,
Georgia the next, even South Carolina, you know, I mean like
that to me, I think it's what's gonna be adjustment. But I mean
to the same extent Joe SEC teams are also gonna have to adjust as well.
Their schedule's got a whole lot tougher now adding Oklahoma Texas the equation too.
And I think one thing is gonna help Texas. I don't know.
The saying has been Everyone's where Everyone's super Bowl. SEC ain't gonna care A
and m will care. That's about it, though he isn't gonna call it
a super Bowl. So those teams like Arkansas, Mississippi State aren't gonna like
they'll come out to play. But it's not like texasna come out and play
Friday night, you know where It's like, we have to beat them.
We have to beat them, and we're talking about them in the media.
We have to beat them. Iowa States offensive lineman was talking crap too,
and then he got destroyed. That was hilarious to watch actually live. But
but so I don't know maybe it's egotistic goes to Texas Fantas State, but
it does feel like even the shitty teams have come out and given us their
best game. And I don't think that's gonna happen in the SEC. Yeah,
yeah, I could see that. At this time next year, we're
gonna be getting ready for a Thanksgiving game against A and M. And they're
gonna Thanksgiving, that's for sure, and they're gonna feel right again to get
back to that series. And I know that there's been a lot of bad
blood and everything, but just to have that again, like what we witnessed
the last fifteen years of all right, we're playing tech this year TCU one
year, it never felt the same. No, it was always Texas,
Texas A and M on Thanksgiving. And I tell you what, that's gonna
be the game circle on the Texas schedule. They could go three and nine
for all I care, but they better be A and M first game back
on Thanksgiving because if they do that, then A and M has nothing to
talk about ever. They will never be able to talk again because but if
they do win, they're gonna be like, oh we didn't this is why
we didn't want to play you all, we were gonna beat you anyways.
So because Aggie's are stupid. So most of you ut people hate A and
M. And it's for A and M, and it's respect for OU kind
of I agree, and I respect those you. I mean, I'll talk
shit to them before the game, but after the game, I'm like,
all right, you want to beer h I shit, man, let's go
because like most of you fans are polite, you know, the shit talk
before the game, respect after the game because you suly it's a good game,
you know. So the A and M fans they're just idiots, man,
they're idiots. Well, and and OU and Texas uh or forever business
partners now with this move like they holding hand to hand with this move together.
Yeah, I want to talk about that real quick. Why is everyone
blaming us because oh, he's walking. He's kind of like to like sneaking
out the door, and everyone's like walking watching Texas got there, Oh Texas,
why are you leaving? You know, He's like, we're also leaving,
guys, see you later. Like I don't know that absolutely it has
And I'll say this, the kind of the ins and outs of the business
here that that that you, and I get that most people don't realize what's
going on. The the OU p R media machine worked all this out mass
masterfully. They got Texas to take the blame for uh, the SEC move,
and they got Ahoe to take the blame for ending Bedlam when they were
just as much a blame for the SEC move and it was all their fault
for ending Bedlam. Oklahoma State had nothing to do with that. That was
all in OU. It's really oh my god, the PR machine was able
to blame their rivals for it. Well maybe then karma hit him in the
butt because I mean, losing the last Bedlam, that's not great. Oh
that was fun. Talk to A and M. Talk to A and M.
I mean they they lost the last one to us ten what twenty eleven,
twelve years ago. They we haven't leve them. We haven't let him
hear the end of it since. So, yeah, it was a good
game, oklahom State, Oklahoma. That was good games. And it sucks
though, because like with these moves and stuff, these rivalries are going away,
Like Bedlam was always a good game. Uh, trying to think his
mother ones from other conferences. You know what's interesting about that? I was
talking to Tamborado about this while back to an extint, Yes, it sucks
that a game like Bedlam was going away, But as a consumer, would
I rather watch Oregon play Oregon State, Oregon play Ohio State, and I'll
take Oregon versus Ohio's date? Yeah, okay, that'spec Now, this game's
good on Friday. They're playing Friday. Yeah, they're playing Friday night.
This game's good. You know, Morgan State beats Oregon because let me tell
you, man, Oregon State and Washington State have been the two teams that
have gotten screwed the most out of all of these moves the pack two now
and so, and they they come out and play this year. I'm pretty
sure they have decent records, not gonna help them, you know. But
Washington States like five and six, and Oregon State's lost two games, like
two or three games. Yeah, oh okay, I'll bet say Oregon State
more than Washington State. But yeah, I know, dang, okay,
Well, I guess Washington record sends me to their criminal stuff. Okay,
but yeah, no, so Washington. Yeah, Washington's undefeated. Oregon State,
Yeah, they're eight and three, they're five and three in the Conference.
So yeah, Washington State's two and six. Okay, so not so
much Washington State, but Oregon's. You know, they're like, we're still
here, We're still playing. They could it's a rivalry game. They could
come out in kick Oregon's but they probably won't, but that'd be nice if
they do. On the H on the A and M front of their coaching
search. I subscribe to the theory Joe that they got rid of Jimbo solely
about Texas to to compete with. It was about competing with ut ut coming
in the league. They didn't want to have Texas coming to the league and
may be stuck with Jimbo. I agree, because you can't have the number
one recruit class and then go, what were they four and something, eight
and something, seven and something? They won six games? Yeah, yeah
they're six, they're what's six? Yeah, six and five? They said
they're six and five right now? Yeah, No, you can't six and
four. You can't have that. You can't have that, you can't do
that. Like so that's why. And it's gonna cost them a pretty petty
that's for sure. And honestly it might screw them because you know, like
we saw with the first year, not always the best. Sunny Dykes is
the example, because he got lucky. I think that was a flash in
the pan because look at TCU now so but so I don't know. I
mean, I get I think they were going for the long run. But
yeah, you had to get rid of Jimbo. I'm sorry, there's just
no way now. Jimbo's gonna take his money to the bank and go over
Ki in Arizona, which I would too. But yeah, last question,
WI landed on this what are you gonna miss us about the Longhorn Network.
Oh, they're long Longhorn game based. Bro. It was like ESPN Game
Day, but like rowdier, Like they're taking shots, they're throwing stuff at
the crowd, like there are a bunch of good guys Fozzy and uh uh
I forgot who else on there? Odo yeah and uh oh gosh, a
couple of guys from the championship team. But it was great. It was
great, and so sucks and I'm so sick of people like, oh,
no, longhan network. I'm like they wanted a big twelve network, you
know that, right, and then the big tools like no, and so
the long hun is like, okay, well we won our network, so
they could have had a big to It could have been a big twelve network,
just like the ACC, just like the SEC. And then they went
to A and M and said, like, let's do the loan Star network,
and A and M said no, no thanks. Yeah, So they
had their chances. They had their chances. So I'm sorry that we made
a business decision and it'll be sad to see it go where else. You
gonna watch the old five Rose Bowl now I YouTube on a repeat. How
many times a year you watched that? Probably three? They'll play it before
football season. They'll play it like in the middle of winter, and then
they'll play in the summer. So but no, no more going to the
corner. He's got it. He's got it. Fourth and five the National
Championship. Man, Man, I miss him. That was a great call.
Uh, Joe time man. Excited to have you back here at the
great State of Texas. Best of luck to your long horns. We'll see
if horns down is gonna be a penalty in the SEC or not. But
it's so funny because people think we're pissed about that. We're like, no,
please, I mean, like, we don't care you guys just do
it okay, cool, and people by merchant turn it upside down and we're
like, you just gave money from the university. You know that, right,
So people are stupid. But yeah, I'm excited to be back in
Texas. Nebraska sucks, That's what I'll say about that. And uh yeah,
never come back here, Joe, we'll dog down a lot. Thanks
Joe is Man, Hey, thanks for having me.