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We're listening to the Downbeat on ninety
seven one The Freak. It's your friendly

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neighborhood Downbeat at six thirty seven in
the morning. We are sixty ten every

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morning Monday through Friday. Ray here
in ninety seven one The Freak, Spin

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and Skin in the middays speak Easy
in the afternoons normally three headed monster here

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with me, Danny, and Kevin
Turner. Kevin's on vacation, so it's

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just myself, Mike'sroyd, Danny Baylis, JJ Jackson this morning, didn't use

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Morning News coming up at eight thirty
Sports at seven, like half an hour

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from now. I think we're gonna
talk about that dude who was banned for

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life from the NBA and is at
the tip of the iceberg for gambling and

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sports and a lot of crap going
on. Also, we'll discuss the bets

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that we're gonna make on the Mavericks
because I'm heading to a magical land this

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afternoon, which we'll get into just
a second or two. I need to

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send you some money soon. Yeah
you do. Yeah, if you want

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to make money, I do.
I do. But as stated, we

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have no Kevin today, and I
know our listeners are trying to fill that

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void. We had Kevin Gray on
yesterday and we're going to have at least

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one Kevin on per day. It's
a iHeartMedia policy, and I guess we

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claim to have one on the phone
right now. Hello caller, you're live

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on the radio and Dallas Fort Worth. Who's this Hi? This is Kevin

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Costner. Oh my god, Well
Kevin, Hi, Kevin Costner, How

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are you doing well? Boys?
How are you all doing good? What's

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happening? What can we do for
you today? Well? I just wanted

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to call in one to meet your
quote of Kevin's Yes, check two.

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I'm trying to get on to seven
Kevins. Oh the upcoming feature film from

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Serroy Pictures. Yeah, you know
with with yellow Stone out. I'm actually

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on my way to work in a
lumberyard Durant. His money's kind of tied

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right now, so help me out. Well, if you're working at a

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lumberyard and Durant, you must have
really squandered away your life's work. Well

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that ex wife and her boy toy
living out fact taking mostly. Hey,

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we currently do have Kevin Bacon lined
up along with Kevin Klein, the Great

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Kevin Pollock Kevin. Do you have
Kevin from the office. We don't,

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but we don't feel like that's a
real Kevin. We do have Kevin James

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and Kevin Smith is set to direct. I was going to try to book

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Kevin debrou from Quiet Riot, but
I realized he'd died many years ago.

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I can take that spot, all
right, I can take that. Thank

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ad. And Kevin Costner would be
a big plus for us, between you

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and Kevin Hart. And to be
honest, he's on all right. Well,

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thank you, Kevin Costner. Thanks
for listening to our program regularly.

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Yeah, we appreciate the talkbacks.
You listen on the on the iHeartRadio app

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as well. Maybe we'll hear from
him again at ninem thirty. Maybe I

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just gotta say, Danny, Yeah, Kevin, that Beans song you did.

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That's a slapper man, what he
does. He's done one hundred oh

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Beans. It is a beautiful song. Thank you. It's one that I'm

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quite proud of. Beans. I
love it. Okay, it's actually my

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alarm to wake up beans. God. All right, mister Kossner, thank

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you, good job, good luck
acting today. Have a great day,

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boys, all right, move that
lumber, Kevin, good look at the

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lumberyard. There he goes. That
dude's a nut. He's reminded us too

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why that started, and I've forgotten
again. Kevin Kossner. Hey guysh uh,

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time for the most important thing in
the world. Wake up your little

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sleepy head. It's time to get
your stupid ass out of bed. About

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the most important thing in the most
important thing in a lot of textures coming

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in. That's good. What says
when you get home, your mom's gonna

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have your head set on playing Call
of Duty. She's got diverted, hit

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the wrong button, and she's just
smoking kids yelling into the mic. Come

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back like Jesus want. I would
love that. If you do want to

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participate in the nine o'clock segment,
it's ask the downbeat, ask whatever you

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want. Everything is on the table, and we got some We've got a

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couple that we probably can't answer.
But yeah, man, I think your

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mom would be more inclined to play
that pirate game, though, boy,

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I don't know that's as far as
simplicity called. I mean, she would

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die instantly in call of duty every
second, but she wouldn't get off the

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docks and see a beeves. She
wouldn't have any chance at Booty on the

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High Seas. You should download your
mom of an age appropriate friendly game for

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her. I think you can kind
of like pac Man, right, sure,

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probably handle that. Yeah, not
Super Mario. M But she hated

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Super Mario because we used to,
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Nintendo, because it's noisy. I
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It was like the very genesis of
kids staring at their TV with a little

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controller in their hands, you know, and you're looking at and your parents

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looking at them and not understanding it. Hell to this day, I think

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parents are frustrated with at least right
now. Now we're meshing parents who play

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and kids who play, but there
are a ton of parents still it would

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look at their kids just wasting time
playing games, which I'm not. I

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don't really even here to argue against
them, and I don't know that it's

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productive, but I love it.
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game game as a kid, like
pretty much out of high school. Never

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really went back to it until later
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just missed the Donkey Kong, Super
Mario Nintendo phenomenon that was outright Yeah,

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basically Nintendo dropped pretty much. It
aligned perfectly. I remember I was in

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I think fifth grade and Christov DeFalco
is a badass name. He was the

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first one to get a Nintendo.
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I mean that math checks out,
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when you were fifth grade, you
were ten, and I would have been

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eighteen eighty six. Yeah, I
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and it hit just as I left. That's crazy. And then yeah,

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for my birthday, I got a
Nintendo. And boy, you never seen

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someone quicker get to get something set
up. And I think he did it.

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Come with Duck Hunt too. I
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the little Gun. I don't know
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yeah, man, we all attacked
that thing. I've said it before,

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but there's one day my brother was
playing Super Mario and got so mad.

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He was in my room too,
on old as TV. You know,

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he got so mad and he died
and he just and hawked a loogie on

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the screen, your brother, and
walked out of my room. I think

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he got banned. I think Bill
banned him for a couple of weeks.

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I'll never met an idiot. Oh
seriously, someonelike cash. Well this is

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what I get it. Well,
we're still I was shocked when my mom

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got me and I guess for my
little sister too, an Atari twenty six

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hundred because we were super ass poor, so that was kind of a big

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big box or a big ticket luxury
item. And when we got that,

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I was what the hell? And
on granted, we didn't get any games.

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It was just the console and you
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with, and it wasn't even an
Atari. It was like the Sears Atari

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that they so at aarready made the
twenty six hundred, but they would also

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license it through the Sears Christmas Catalog, so it wouldn't say Atari. It

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was rebranded, but it was the
exact same system. They just put like

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a different logo and different name of
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Game Center or something like that.
Really yeah, and the game that I'm

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gonna make get these mixed up.
The game that the twenty six hundred came

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with from Atari, I think it
was called either Combat or Tankah and it

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was just two tanks and they would
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Was Combat was okay, if there's
an equivalent named Tang. Yes, the

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game that they came with the console
from the Sears catalog was called Tank,

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and I remember not liking combats sucked. Yeah, it was hard and it

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sucked and it didn't do anything,
but it's all you had, no you

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know, it was just kind of
a glorified version of Pong. Yeah,

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basically the same principle. Did you
ever have uh in this maybe because uh

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we had Pitfall? You know,
oh, dude, pitfall was great?

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Not there yet? This is a
pitfall was awesome. Did you ever have

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Kaboom? I don't remember Kaboom,
you know had the regular joystick. Then

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there's another one with a little knob
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little paddle or like just a rotating
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like your Pong type games on or
uh Tetra type games. Yeah, and

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Breakout, yeah, exact big one. But Kaboom was drop bombs and you

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were like a bucket of water and
you had to like catch the bomb before

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they hit. Dude, that was
before it's time because that was high speed

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and accurate and you were flying around
those board. Yeah that was fun,

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but that kind of gave me more
incentive to work and make money so I

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could afford my own cartridges. And
then it was Activision that was the you

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know, because you had your secondary
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were compatible with the twenty six hundred. It wasn't you weren't just limited to

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Atari's roster, and Activision was this. They were the ones that made Pitfall.

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They took their technology, took that
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a big level. Because Pitfall felt
compared to Combat or any of those first

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level basic games. Pitfall was like
these wearing a hat. I'm on the

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alligator and you're grown down into the
pit. The alligator just turn upside down.

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If you heard him, you had
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mouth was closed as basically Indiana Jones, right, yeah, pretty much we

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playing those games. Imagine kids.
I'm sure that you can probably go on

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YouTube and watch kids playing our first
games. You can actually buy what is

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just an Atari twenty six hundred controller
and it's got a USB or an HDMI

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or whatever plug. Yeah, you
plug that into your TV and just in

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the controller and play its ever like
thirty thousand games in it that are all

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whatever whatever was made for Atari twenty
six hundred. Yeah, and you can

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just sit there and play them all
day. I had one, was bored

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with it after like three days.
Not interested, not interested anyway, I'm

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sure you had something more important than
that. It's far less important, and

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we don't need to hit the open. But the most important thing in the

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world is I mean, all the
talk we did of the Sphere in Las

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Vegas getting completed and finally opening up
and you two having this incredible run there,

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and tonight is the second band ever
to set foot in the Sphere and

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melt faces and rock and it is
a band called Fish. Very polarizing band,

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I think, or I guess most
people are just indifferent and poke fun

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at a band like Fish that they
don't like are enjoy and I don't care.

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That's fine. I am a massive
fan of the band Fish. I

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bet that most people that make fun
of Fish or say that they hate them

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have never heard them. Yeah,
yeah, and they just think they're they're

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grateful, dead and they whatever.
I don't really care. And frankly,

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the prices are for they're playing tonight, They're playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday

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and Sunday. And I am on
a plane this afternoon, right around one

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o'clock, and I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to the Friday night show

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and the Saturday night Saturday Night show
at the Sphere to see Fish. Look

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fish guy, you know. And
I don't feel like I'm a stereotypical fish

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dude. I mean it's smelly wookie
hippies, which is not the case.

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I mean a few blue eyed white
devils. Half the people that in the

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Sphere are going to be lawyers and
doctors. Fish fans were always smart,

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and they got older, and they
got wealthy, and they now still love

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to go see fish. Can you
tell me this? How many bands?

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I mean the tickets are over a
thousand bucks each every day. That's way

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more than we're for you too.
Maybe not for opening night, but I

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mean how many? How I abnormal? Is that over a thousand? I

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mean I'm talking getting the building price. Now. Yeah, the Sphere has

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a couple obstructed seats, which I
didn't know, But if you're in section

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one hundred towards the back, you
will be under Section two hundred, thereby

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impeding your view of the sphere.
It renders the upper part of the sphere

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pretty much useless to you. So
those are seven eight hundred bucks. Yeah,

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but if you want to get any
decent seat, it's twelve hundred bucks.

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Best seats in the house are approaching
two thousand dollars, and I just

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as a Fish fan, we don't
want anyone else to get on board,

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you know, I don't think you're
gonna but we don't want these ticket prices

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to go up anymore. But is
how abnormal is that? I mean in

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this day and age, it's for
a band that is as popular, a

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live band that's as popular as they
are, that's probably that's probably not a

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bad price. Because I remember seeing
McCartney for the first time ever and I

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think it was was it American Airlines? It must have been, And just

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to get in the door there you're
looking at three you were looking at three

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hundred and fifty dollars, and that
was probably twenty years ago. So with

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inflation and everything, for a big
name act that that is a top level

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touring band, I guarantee you that
if McCartney came and did a little short

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residency at the Sphere, you could
start at one thousand dollars. You think

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so at least? Yeah, Yeah, I mean, for a band that

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most people listening wouldn't go out to
their backyard and see you know what I

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mean. We're not talking about Paul
McCartney on the public scale of musician quality,

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but as far as touring acts,
they're always at the top fishes as

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far as income and how hard they
work, and they're row dogs and they

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and people love them. They have
diehard loyal fans that, yeah, well,

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that have a disposable income, you
know. So if you went and

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sell pal McCartney, you'd sit there, you'd enjoy it, you might get

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up, you might dance a little
bit. But this is going to be

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whatever, seventeen thousand whatever. The
capacity is people standing, dancing, partying,

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having a blast together. And that's
one of the coolest things about a

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fish show. So I'm going to
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psyched, and it's four nights the
sphere. Because the tickets sold so quickly,

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they asked them to do four more
nights, like do you want to

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do the next weekend? And they
debated it and they're like, look,

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we have two options. We can
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doing, you know, over the
next four nights, do them again the

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next week, or because they want
every one of these shows to be completely

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unique. They're not going to repeat
one song. The visuals are going to

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be all completely different. And they
decline. They're like, we don't want

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to dilute what we're doing in these
four days. Yeah, because they have

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wild s planned over the next four
days. The Fish shows now are experiences.

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I mean they've done at MSG.
They just they just did a fleet

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of clones where they got ten people
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Fish and dressed them the same and
went out there holding instruments and trick the

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fans into thinking it's them. Then
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They just do kind of games with
the audience. You know. They did

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another one at MSG where all the
lights were blue and they had drones of

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whales and dolphins and maybe turn the
entire thing into an underwater aquarium. And

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that's at MSG. So at the
sphere, no one knows what to expect

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until tonight. Until tonight, well
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That's awesome. They said there's something
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like there is a theme, And
I was like, are they gonna do

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like Jack Queen King Ace, you
know in Vegas as the as a loose

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theme and then they'll sing a couple
songs that touch on those themes, you

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know. But truth is, we
don't know what the hell's gonna be.

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But anyway, when you think about
the Sphere, all I think about is

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the visuals. Right, I'm gonna
play at audio double J Sorry here you

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guys plug in. I think of
the visuals, like just stepping in this

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building, what it's going to look
like, and that is definitely the most

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intriguing thing. But I wanted to
play something for you, and it's an

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interview with Trey. It's only about
a minute long where he's talking about the

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audio in the sphere, which I
don't know anything about, okoy, and

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he's talking about the directional audio.
And you tell me if this is even

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possible or if this makes sense for
a band to pull off inside the sphere.

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JJ, here we are the debut
of the Sphere Sphere sound system.

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It wasn't surround, but it's directional. The Sphere sound system is hyperdirectional.

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It's so directional it's like pinpoints of
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which is very different than a normal
sound system. When they give you the

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demo, you can stand on an
X and they'll play with song and the

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artist is singing in French, and
then you step one foot to the side

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and the artist is singing in Spanish. That's how directional it is. So

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our sound man or any soundman that
comes in here, has to rearrange their

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concept. They have to be open
minded and embrace the technology. And if

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you do so, the possibilities are
endless. I'm very excited about what we

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figured out. We figured out ways
to put instruments all over, like it's

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coming from every direction. It sounds
really cool. I got to hear it

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a couple of days ago. Okay, so you've been to an IMAX movie

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and you know at the very beginning
when they kind of show off the sound

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of what IMAX is about. Yeah, you got the static and you hear

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it from what feels like twelve different
points in the auditorium. It's so where

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the sound is isolated, and it's
like you can if you were looking to

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the source of the sound, your
head would go from the corner to the

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side, to this side, Oh, to the back, Oh, it's

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up here now it's over here.
That's kind of what he's talking about that

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they they have so many different speakers
that are set up in all points of

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this sphere that they can point the
sound waves to a specific area in the

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arena. It's almost like think of
think of the audio as as like a

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laser to where it is beaming to
a certain section, and they can move

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those things too around, so you're
gonna have swirling audio. It's going to

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be it's going to be sensory effing
overload, is what it's going to be

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when you combine that with the visuals
and what I hope and I'm sure they

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are. These guys are a million
times smarter than me when it comes to

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production, or they have people that
are is sometimes to me, the beauty

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of a great production is kind of
like when it's what you don't do as

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opposed to what you do do.
So if it's kitchen sink all the time,

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it's going to drive you crazy,
it's going to exhaust you. It's

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going to make you not know where
to look or not know where to listen,

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or not know when to look or
listen. You've got to create space

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to where there's lulls where kind of
nothing's nothing's happening almost, or where it's

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just one singular visual and your head's
not having to whip around like you're afraid

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of missing something. They'll know how
to orchestrate that. I think it's going

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to be phenomenal, but it is
going to be a sensory exploration. So

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there's one hundred and sixty seven thousand
speaker sound system in there. Yeah,

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so that would obviously facilitate that.
But do you believe that. Can I

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stand right here and the singer singing
in French? Yeah, and then I

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can move three feet to the left. That's what they've That's what's bill beautiful.

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But it's a different language because you
are, Yeah, because it's targeted.

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It's targeting, like you would have
a channel of a vocal that's singing

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in French and a channel of another
vocal singing in Spanish and depending on where

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you're standing. Yeah, I think, like I said, think of it

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as an audio laser. So if
I'm shooting that laser at you right now,

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and it's a red laser, if
you move out of that spot and

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move over here where a blue laser
is pointing, and you get in front

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of that one, the red laser
is no longer touching you, the blue

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one is. Think of that as
audio. They can do the same thing

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with sound waves now and be that
precise and pinpoint them to be wherever they

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want them to be, and for
you to experience whatever they want you to

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experience it I understand. I don't
understand. Yeah, that seems, you

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know. And for a band like
Fish that messes with their fans and has

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fun with their fans and does bits, so they're gonna project instruments all over

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this room, yeah, bounce them
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that another thing that will lead to
is every person in that auditorium is going

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to have a different experience than quite
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God, that's crazy. You're gonna
have a great time. Yeah,

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I cannot wait. I'm almost more
excited to hear about your Sphere experience than

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I am this lavish lavish Pasha.
Well, uh yeah, so Fish kicking

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off four straight nights at the Sphere
tonight, and I'm heading there Friday and

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Saturday. I can't wait. They're
also worried someone's gonna croak because they recommend

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you sit down during shows when you're
up high at the sphere and these fish

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fans are not gonna sit down.
They're going to be dancing and drunk and

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drunk and other things. Machine worried
about the big tumble tumble off the top

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rope. Let's hope all is well
down there at the at the sphere,

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but I can't wait to see it
all. Right, there you go.

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Coming up next, we got Sport
at seven, I don't know, maybe

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talk about this dude who's banned for
life and is this the beginning of gamble

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again in professional sports? That's next
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