WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:05.240 Many many years in the black community, representing many African Americans as an attorney 2 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:11.080 with Leslie Gaines of Gains and Gains Attorneys at Law. And I know how 3 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:15.560 the Black community feels generally about abortion, but it's not reflected in the politics 4 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:21.079 thereof In fact, that it's darn near impossible to find an African American community 5 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:26.280 leader who's a Democrat other than faith leaders who do not support a woman's right 6 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:31.800 kill her unborn, healthy baby on demand whatever. And it is a noteworthy 7 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:36.399 that there's a group of more than one hundred faith and community leaders, many 8 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:42.719 located in the state's capital, that say enough is enough. Approximately thirteen percent 9 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:48.960 of Ohioans or African American about fifty percent of the abortions. And Margaret Sanger, 10 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:53.960 who was a eugenicist, said quite often that she wanted to put her 11 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:58.560 planned parenthood facilities in the black community because that's where the business is. It 12 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:03.439 also would involve killing more Black babies. And so I'm shocked that Black Democratic 13 00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:10.000 and or Republican leadership doesn't step forward and say enough is enough. That something 14 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:14.439 in the range of thirty million Black babies have not been born the last fifty 15 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:18.519 years, thirty million. The community is hurting. So it is noteworthy that 16 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:23.560 Pastor Jeff Haygood, Pastor Jeff Haygood of the Living Word Church and Columbus, 17 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.680 has step forward to join us this afternoon. And Pastor welcome, I think 18 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:32.280 for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the 19 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:36.599 American people, Pastor, why you sign your name to the letter like Martin 20 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:40.799 Luther did on the cathedral door in Wittenberg, Germany? Enough is enough? 21 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:46.760 And why did you get involved in this fight? Well? I am distinctly, 22 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:56.840 unashamedly outspokenly pro life, and so I believe anyone who is a conscientious 23 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:00.040 human being, let alone a person of faith, the Bible believer, will 24 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.599 also be pro life. When it comes to the effect of abortion on the 25 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:09.240 black community, it is so disproportionate, it is literally unbelievable. The numbers 26 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.960 you mentioned are thirteen percent of Ohia's population, but women are eight percent of 27 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:17.840 that, and obsulating women are four percent of that. Somehow we count for 28 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:23.919 forty nine percent of the abortions in the state of Ohio. That is so 29 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:29.479 far out of whack. Anyone who does not see that as a genocide, 30 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:34.800 a sort of genocide has to purposely be wearing blinders. Can you tell me 31 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:42.240 why that practically it's well over ninety percent the Congressional Black Caucus and all the 32 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.560 other groups, and DOAACP just line them up fall right in line with killing 33 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:53.879 as many healthy unborn Black and white babies as possible. And the rape argument. 34 00:02:53.960 --> 00:03:00.599 I hear that less than one percent of the abortions are rape. Maybe 35 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.599 that could be dealt with separately, not in my opinion, because life begins 36 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.680 a conception and ends at natural death. But can you jump in the mind 37 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:14.319 of ninety percent of Black leadership when they're one hundred percent in favor of abortion 38 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.520 on demand all the time, everywhere, and in fact government out of pay 39 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:21.520 for it. White, can you get in the mind of your maybe your 40 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:25.840 constituents are your parishioners, and say why that happens? Well, it's actually 41 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:32.280 pretty simple. The Black community has largely sold its soul to the Democrat, 42 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:40.120 the Democratic Democratic Party. I'd often say, specifically as it pertains to the 43 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:47.639 faith community, because many Black pastors are very pro Democrat and additionally pro abortion, 44 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:54.919 that they are married to God but in an adulterous affair with the Democratic 45 00:03:55.000 --> 00:04:02.159 Party, and so they will take on causes that are not healthy for the 46 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.599 people that they lead, and abortion is one of the most. I often 47 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:11.599 say this, abortion is more racist than slavery. And here's why I say 48 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:17.480 it. Bill, you're probably talking to a person who is a descendant of 49 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:23.240 a farmer slave. You will never, in your entire life have a conversation 50 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:28.079 with the person who is the descendant of someone who is aborted. It is 51 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:33.079 the most evil, wicked behavior in the history of humankind. I don't even 52 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:40.759 know. I don't know if anything that is as close to abortion as far 53 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:46.160 as how bad it is for people overall, and then specifically for the Black 54 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:51.879 community. Our leaders need to straighten up and fly right and reclaim their soul 55 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:57.439 from the Democratic Party who has sold them a bag of goods and giving them 56 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:01.680 some free cheese in exchange for this. So one other issue, Reverend as 57 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:08.959 I go to a Roman Catholic church and the Archbishop of Cincinnati put together a 58 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:15.879 letter that he had some of the pastors read, which has angered some Roman 59 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.560 Catholics that you should not bring quote politics into the pulpit, that you ought 60 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:24.079 to stay out of it. I know on the left side of things, 61 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:29.480 whether it's Reverend Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They bring politics into the pulpit 62 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.720 every day, all the time. They monetize civil rights to become to become 63 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:41.360 rich. And some priests have gotten blowback from parishioners after mass taking them to 64 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:46.879 task for bringing politics into the pulpit. And maybe you've had the same experiences 65 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.560 there in Columbus at your church. Can you give us the argument as to 66 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:55.079 why this isn't politics, this is something different. I mean, if the 67 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:59.639 archbishop will put together a letter, hey, vote for Tony Bender and don't 68 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:03.399 vote for Bill Cunningham, vote for Haygood, and don't vote for a Sharpton, 69 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:10.240 that's one thing. But have you gotten blowback from parishioners of yours about 70 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:15.079 getting involved in this? Well? Absolutely, I'm once again a very outspoken 71 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.160 about this issue and various other issues that affect the people that I lead, 72 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:26.920 and I would do them a disservice if I would ignore or turn a blind 73 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.759 eye to something that is so devastating to our community. So I've got people 74 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.600 that had suggested that I was too political and as well and so forth. 75 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:38.680 But let me say saying this, I'm not political by any stress of the 76 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:44.560 imagination. I am moral. Abortion is not a political issue. It is 77 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.160 a moral issue that has been politicized, but the core of it is moral. 78 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:55.240 God says it quite plainly. Now, shalt not kill. Case closed. 79 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.839 It's a moral issue. It's not if we didn't have a president, 80 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.439 a congress, a mayor, a God, or any other political person in 81 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:06.199 office, it would still be wrong to kill. It's not political, it's 82 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:12.639 moral, and I have to uphold biblical morality. I have an obligation to 83 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.360 do that based on the fact that I am a servant of the Lord. 84 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:20.439 I'm going to uphold that everywhere, under all circumstances, no matter who's watching, 85 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:25.720 no matter who's listening, it is wrong to take the life of a 86 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.360 baby. And Pastor Jeff Haygod of the Living Word Church in Columbus, Ohio, 87 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.720 I see the polling. The polling is depressing, and maybe that's an 88 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:40.240 intent that we're told that Issue one is going to pass by a wide margin. 89 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:45.519 When I speak off the record to politicos, Republicans and Democrats, and 90 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:50.240 the leader of the Democratic Party here in Hamlet County is a female. When 91 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:55.680 I speak to I want to mention specific names. I speak to political leadership 92 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.639 Republicans and Democrats. They're going to think that Ohio is going to act just 93 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.519 like just like Kentucky, just like Michigan and all the Blue states. There's 94 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.279 no argument in the Blue states. If you're in California, New York, 95 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.399 Massachusetts, Rhode Island, if you're in Washington or Oregon, they have abortion 96 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.560 on demand through birth. No one's objecting to it. It's a state's issue. 97 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.839 And then they're running with at big time. And in fact Illinois and 98 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:24.480 Chicago, Reverend wants to have abortion tourism. That is for states such as 99 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:30.839 Indiana and Ohio that made to one extent ban abortion. We'll see what happens 100 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:35.840 on Tuesday, but they want to have abortion tourism. They wanted you to 101 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:37.919 go to Chicago, maybe watch the Reds, watch a Cubs game, watch 102 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.320 the Reds play the Cubs or whatever, and get your abortion there and come 103 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:48.519 back. But do you think there's particularly an evil element when they say to 104 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.799 people, don't bother voting. It's going to be sixty forty. The polling, 105 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.080 according to the Columbus Dispatch, is disproportionate. Is that part of the 106 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:01.639 plan. Well, it couple of things. I mentioned all of the money 107 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.799 that has come in has been on the side of the pro abortion lobby. 108 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.159 That's where all the money is, and so it's been very difficult from a 109 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:15.200 grassroots level to match the kind of funding that we're getting on the other side. 110 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.240 It is inherently wicked abortion. I don't want to go down the rabbit 111 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.279 hole off the dpen, but abortion is it can the child sacrifice. It 112 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.639 was very, very wicked, and so as far as the polling is concerned, 113 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:33.600 I don't buy it. One of the things I will mention is the 114 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:39.759 held November ballot issue that would have made amending our constitution require sixty percent. 115 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:45.399 If that would have this thing wouldn't have a chance. Obviously, that sailed 116 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:50.840 miserably. And the last pollet I heard was it was polling at forty eight 117 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:56.159 percent four versus forty two percent against, or something of that nature. I'm 118 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.440 actually for fifty two forty eight. It was eight points ahead. Long story 119 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.279 shorthands, I don't believe the polls. Tomorrow morning, I'm getting up, 120 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:13.240 putting on my trousers and going door to door trying to convince people to vote 121 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:18.639 against Issue number one. The fight's not over. I'm certainly not going to 122 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.200 give up. I chose to believe that there's a good enough goodness in the 123 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.039 heart of enough people that no matter what they start to say publicly, when 124 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:31.240 they go into the voting booth, they will pull the lever to strike down 125 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.639 Issue one. And one more thing, I'll say Bill Issue one in case 126 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:39.360 the listeners are not super familiar with it. It is way more radical than 127 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.360 Roe Versus way. It will permit a fortune up to the time of the 128 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:50.399 baby is delivered. It also brings in care for people getting transgender care. 129 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:58.360 And there's there's no provision for a rental to involve the parents in this decision. 130 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.279 There's no age limitation. It applies to every individual in the state of 131 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:09.679 Ohio. And this is stronger than a law. It's an Ohio constitutional issue. 132 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:16.639 So it will literally handstring and hands uff still Ohio legislatures, they won't 133 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.399 be able to do anything about it literally once it's passed. Well, Reverend 134 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.720 I like to get it. Lastly, one other aspect, and it was 135 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:31.759 brought up indirectly, and that is that the Democratic Party has basically destroyed large 136 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.440 elements the black community by their policies. I don't know about Columbus City schools. 137 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.480 I know in Cincinnati and the state of Ohio, about seventy percent of 138 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:46.279 black boys who graduate from high school cannot properly read and write, seventy percent 139 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.399 and controlled by the Democratic Party, and all the eight major cities in Ohio, 140 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:56.679 something in the range of seventy percent of black babies that make it through 141 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.519 the womb actually are born into a family, a mother and father in the 142 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.879 home. That you have massive lawlessness, that public schools are terrible. In 143 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.759 Cincinnati, about seventy four percent of Black boys in the public school system, 144 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:18.240 and Cincinnati completely control by the Democrat Party are chronically absent from school, little 145 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.440 or no job creation, rampant lawlessness. When I look at the policies of 146 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.799 liberal Democrats and the eight major cities here in Ohio, whether in Throwing, 147 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:33.080 Covington, Louisville, Neapolis, every major city in this country, the collapse 148 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.960 of family life, the collapse of faith, the rampant criminal activity, the 149 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:45.639 terrible public schools that disrespect for law and order, to fund the police, 150 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:50.639 etc. Is all rampant. So how is it possible that without history for 151 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:56.039 the past sixty seventy eighty years, that black community votes ninety percent, especially 152 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.440 black women vote ninety percent for those who have enslaved them. How is that 153 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.879 possible? Well, it's real simple, I think. Uh. There's a 154 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.240 quote attributed to Lyndon Johnson, uh, apparently made while he was on Air 155 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.159 Force one, speaking in terms of the black community. He said, we'll 156 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.279 give those in words, enough stuff to have them voting Democrats for the next 157 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.480 one hundred years. Yes, and so it is. It is the trick, 158 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.120 it is deployed. It is the It is the false date of where 159 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.639 you're gonna get something Democrat or four black people because it's gonna give them something. 160 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:31.879 Well, let me tell you something, mister kind of ham them tayble 161 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:37.600 the Democrats to give black people, they give them perpetual poverty. And by 162 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:45.320 giving them perpetual poverty, they have a guaranteed uh voting block in the perpetuity 163 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.279 because we're gonna give you welfare, We're gonna give you free food, We're 164 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.159 gonna give you free tea, We're gonna we're gonna do all these things for 165 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.679 you. We're going to become very paternal. We're going to take care of 166 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:01.120 you. Unfortunately, our quote Malcolm X, he says, the fish that 167 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.159 mistakes the fisherman who throws them. A word for a friend ends up on 168 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.639 the hook, and black people have been on that hook for the last fifty 169 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:15.200 years. But supposing that the Democratic Party is their friends, Well, Reverend, 170 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.039 it's said what I'm seeing going on. And when I heard that actual 171 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:26.000 audio tape of LBJ dropping the enbomb on a regular basis, pay off the 172 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.080 N word. Pay them off. They'll be on the hook for the next 173 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:33.639 hundred years. And that was prophetic, and it's destroyed large elements of the 174 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:39.679 black community. Pastor Jeff Haygood of the Living Word Church in Columbus, thanks 175 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.080 for being there. More than one hundred black faith leaders have stepped up. 176 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.120 You're one of them. You're one of the great leaders in the state's capital. 177 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.080 And I pray to God at some point we come to our senses, 178 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.679 because you will answer for your vote in this world or the next. This 179 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.200 is the only time in our history or a person walks into a polling place 180 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:03.600 and actually he puts their name down with their mark and says, I want 181 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:09.840 to kill as many healthy unborn babies as possible. Put my name next to 182 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.440 that, and you will answer for that vote in this world or the next. 183 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.879 And Reverend Jeff hey Good you're a great American and thanks for coming on 184 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.639 the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Reverend. So thanks for having me, 185 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:26.440 Bill, and good luck to Ohio and the election next Tuesday. God 186 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.440 bless America. All right, Reverend, thank you very much. Let's continue 187 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.480 with more news coming up and more plus later on early voting continues. I 188 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:37.840 have the voting rolls. We're going to vote after two o'clock today, all 189 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:45.639 on news radio seven HUNDREDULW HI. I'm Rocky Woman from the Eddie and Rocky 190 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.759 Show with a special poem just for you. If you miss part of our 191 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.679 show and you now feel like crap, you can always hear the podcast on 192 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:58.240 the iHeartRadio app. You've always been there for your daughter.