Everything is just a lot different now than it used to be, I think
for women and the way that we're expected to look, and so there is
this pressure of getting stuff done and nips and tucks and here and there,
and there is no such thing as aging gracefully anymore. You hear it from
all the Hollywood actresses who as soon as they hit their fifties, they are
like, I am so tired of being objectified, even though that's how they
made their entire careers. Okay, So I talked to you earlier today,
and then when we were talking about this particular topic, we ended up deciding,
you know what, we should do a deep dive about this. And
it's because Candice Owens tweeted out a question to men. And this was within
the last twenty four hours or so. She tweeted out a question to men,
and it was about botox and whether or not men like it when women
use botox or fillers or have those big, giant fake lips. And so
she wrote, and I quote serious question for men, do you think that
the botox slash filler fake lips look is attractive? Do you envision long term
relationships with girls that look that way? Male opinions only. Please, I'm
working on a show about social media mutating our appetites. Please retweet. So
she was not prepared for the controversy and angry response from women that ensued.
Yeah, that soud, that's kind of crazy. So women got pissed off
at her. Men were like, what did men say? Did men?
Overwhelmingly they said, we prefer natural, the natural look on women. In
fact, there were so many men that I saw and thousands of responses,
but so many of them were like, I don't even like it when my
wife or girlfriend wears makeup, let alone the fake, you know, filler
botoxy look. But then a lot of the women came back and said,
you don't know what natural is these days, because a lot of women will
come home and they'll have botox and all these fillers and all this crap shoved
in their face, and men have no idea that they have that done,
and they think that that's natural. So they may not have makeup on,
but they may have all this other crab shoved in their face, and they
may have these fake lips or whatever, and men are like, that's naturrue,
and they don't know. They just don't know. I mean I can
see that when it's like a I don't know, when it's like a new
relationship and you're meeting someone that looks that way for the first time and then
you fall in love. But like, you know, if I were to
all of a sudden get lip filler, my husband would definitely notice. And
I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, my husband would know too.
My husband would know if I used any of that stuff, right, he
would know. He would be like, what are you doing to your face?
What's going on with your face? Why are you screaming with your face?
What's going on there? What'd you do there? What's happening? Because
I mean, they see your face, they know your face. At least
I would hope that they would be paying an up potention to your face so
they would know. So that's interesting. But I think it's also very interesting
that women are super defensive about it. But then again, we're in a
culture now where I can see where women would get kind of a little defensive
about it because women our age are now. I mean, you and I
don't really I don't think we fall so much into the trap of we have
to look like we're twenty five, because we don't look, I don't look
like I'm twenty five. I mean, I just don't look like I'm twenty
five. But there are a lot of women who fall into the trap of
you have to look like you're twenty five, you have to stay looking like
you're twenty five years old. And I was looking today at and thinking a
lot about the eighties and what it was like when you and I were growing
up. And I used to babysit every single Friday night in the eighties,
back in high school. And if you remember, The Golden Girls was on
on Friday nights, and I loved, love, love that show. And
all four of those women who are on that show, well they played women.
Three of the women, three out of the four women played women in
their fifties, which is mind blowing, mind blowing because they all looked so
old. They did, and they kind of still do if you look back
at them now. They kind of have that look about them where they look
kind of Grandma. Don't you think they look at Grandma? So like Rose
at the start, she was This is what they were supposed to be.
Rose was supposed to be fifty five. Rose and Island was supposed to be
fifty five Dorothy was supposed to be fifty three, mock, and that was
the one played by my that's Blanche, yeah, like that's I'm sorry,
not Blanche. I'm sorry, that's Mod. That's mod. Like the big
one, the tall one, yeah mo yeah, mad, the big one,
Blanche, who is the kind of the one that was the whore right
there. She also was supposed to be fifty three at the time. That's
it. Fifty three is nuts, right, And then Sophia was Sophia.
She was actually a year younger than beat Arthur and she was playing a seventy
nine year old on the show. The crazy thing is that all those women,
like all three of those women, Rose, Dorothy, and Blanche,
they're all playing women in their fifties, but they were I think they actually
Rose and Dorothy were both sixty three years old, and they were playing women
ten years younger, which would never happened today. I don't think that that
would happen today. And so again that's like how times have changed. They
are playing women that were younger, which would never happen. And then Blanche,
the slutty one. Rue McClanahan was actually fifty two playing a fifty three
year old so she was her age, and so she I think she kind
of probably look the most her age on the show. But I look back
at those women and I think, okay, well, none of them have
fillers or botox or stuff shoved in their faces. They didn't have, you
know, all the weird life of suction and have all the plastic surgery.
They just look like normal women raging, like normal women age. And so
that's what we were used to. Our generation was used to that. This
generation is not used to that. No, they don't. And that's why
when you put a picture of the four women from Sex and the City right
next to the Golden Girls and think about the fact that they are representing the
same age, it is a complete mind screw. It is a complete mind
screw. Yeah, and those women all have had stuff done. Let's just
get rid. Yeah, maybe with the with the question. Maybe with the
exception of Cynthia Nixon. I mean maybe I don't know. Well, okay,
maybe I don't even it's hard to tell anymore. To the point to
the women's point who responded to Canvas, Well, it's funny about the Candace
always tweet is that botox. The words started trending because Candas is hugely influential.
She has an enormous following and people like latch onto anything she says.
And because there became this controversy and it even got stupid enough to the point
where a lesbian got mad that she wasn't invited to comment on whether she was
attracted to women with botox and fillers, and Candace was like, calmed down,
I can ask it a question to just men and the world is fine.
She can't do that. I mean, somebody has to be offended.
There has to be somebody somewhere that's offended. It's like her, God,
does it like a tree falling in the forest, Like if nobody's around to
hear it, does it? Does it even happen? Kind of a thing.
It's like, somebody has to be offended somewhere. It's just it's ridiculous.
Oh my god. But that it is kind of crazy, like the
changing just the way that women age differently now, and that's just what in
twenty five thirty years, what's it going to be like in another twenty five
thirty years, are fifty two fifty three ye old women going to have to
look like twenty year old? Well? I feel like in many ways,
there's there's already pressure, right. You hear it from all the Hollywood actresses
who as soon as they hit their fifties, they are like, I am
so tired of being objectified, even though that's how they made their entire careers.
Yea. And then they get all mad that they've aged and that Hollywood
is no longer as interested in them, and that's just that's they knew that
going in. That's what always makes me crazy about all the actresses who act
like, now that I've made all my money, I'm going to bitch about
how I made it. It's true. But you also see on the flip
side too, you also see like younger. I see a lot of younger
women out there too, like having after I had my daughter, what twelve
years ago, I remember looking a lot of women around, you know,
just in celebrity circles and stuff like that, and after they had their babies,
they snapped. You got to snap back in like three months. You
got to be back to your pre baby. You got to look like a
supermodel in three This is it used to not be that way. It used
to not be that way. You know what thirty forty fifty years ago.
Everything is just a lot different now than it used to be, I think
for women and the way that we're expected to look, and so there is
this pressure of getting stuff done and nips and tucks and here and there.
You can't and there is no such thing as aging gracefully anymore. And if
you age gracefully, it's it's an anomaly. You're you're kind of different.
You're seen as different, that is unique and different and kind of weird.
You're original, You're very very unique in that respect, which is strange to
me because that used to be the norm. And I can't always I always
think about, like, you know, especially doing what we do right,
Like if either one of us were to all of a sudden get something done
to our faces, if we were going to do some tough of a facelift,
yeah or whatever, if we started injecting a bunch of crap into our
faces, people would see that as a change from the day before. And
I always you know, the other problem too, is just about the culture.
Is all the filters, right, Like, so anything that you see
on social media, you don't even know if what you're seeing is real half
the time. And so I guess my goal. I want to look good
for my age, and I also don't want to meet someone in person and
have my appearance to them be a shock because it's different from what they see
on video every morning. Do you know what I mean? I don't I
know how to do that to somebody. I know exactly what you mean.
And that happens a lot where you see somebody in person, like because we've
met people in circles like this, like conservative circles, celebrity circles, stuff
like that, or then you see them in person you're like, oh my
gosh, yeah, yeah, what I thought they would look like, Oh
my gosh, there's a lot of glue holding that together and spackle. And
see all you and I do is we rely on genusel. Is this a
good time to remind everybody of the fantastic bilber bit about plastic surgery and why
grips should avoid it. So we've actually got a couple of clips because it's
a much longer thing and we don't have time to play the whole thing.
But I thought we're just gonna get these two clips, and the first one
is I mean and his delivery is everything right. So if you've never listened
to Bilburg or the comic you're about to get treated, Let's roll the first
one. I gotta admit, the only thing that freaks me out about Los
Angeles is all the plastic surgery. I don't get it. Why do people
get plastic surgery? You know, why can't you just admit it's over?
You know you had your time. Stop trying to look well in your fifties.
Weird foot their faces, yank back, looking all shiny right, not
to mention they haven't even figured it out. You know, why would you
get a facelift? Can't you look at other facelifts and realize they haven't worked
all the bugs out yet. That's what you want to look like like you
just lost a fight three days ago. Don't be a hero. Let somebody
else go in there, take the beach, you lay back. It's so
funny. As I saw this woman, I was at a swim meet.
This was probably two months ago, and I went to a swim meet and
I sat down, and you know, you're there for like the whole day.
You're at a swim meet for a long time. You better settle the
freak in. Okay, So this woman sits in front of me with her
husband, who is notably older than her, And she had fake a fake
butt, And I have never seen a fake butt up close and personal.
I haven't. I don't think so have either. I was in awe.
I should have taken a picture for you. I thought about it, but
there was so many people around me that I thought, if I'd take a
picture of this woman's ass, people are going to be looking at me like
I'm the crazy one, when she, in fact was the crazy one for
having the fake ass. Yeah, And it was a sight to hold mock.
It was like it was so perfectly bulbous and like she had and she
had all the other fake stuff too, Like her face was all fake,
and she had the fake boobs, and she had everything. Everything about this
woman was fake. There was not a real thing on this woman. Everything
was bought and paid for. But her butt was like I don't even know
how they do it, what they do, I don't know the procedure to
get this done. But it was a fake but and she could barely sit
on it. Well, I was gonna say, how do you even recover?
That? Is the thing like that. The thing that I kept thinking
was she's gonna have to sit here for like six hours during this swim meet,
which is uncomfortable enough on these steel seats anyway, and she's gonna have
to sit on a fake butt the whole day. What is that like?
Like that's commitment, That is commitment to vanity? Yeah, right, when
you're sitting on I don't even know what what? What is that? What
is? I think they take fat from other places in your body? Right,
So maybe she is, maybe she's better off than me. Maybe she
can't feel it. I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I could
be completely wrong and it might be some sort of implant. I have no
idea. I really do craziness that people do this, that people I know
we shouldn't judge, but I kind of am, because God, that's just
brutal. It was nots but I mean not to defend it, because it's
completely whack. But to Bill Burr's point, at least it's a part of
the body that you can cover. His point in this next clip is that
you should never work with your face. No, you don't with your face.
Okay, I understand lightful suction. They screw that up. You can
put on a shark, right, there's no shark for your face. Who
do. They think they're fooling, but they're still quick, you know.
And then you lie to yourself, I'm just gonna do it. You're gonna
do this, just gonna just gonna just gonna have this done. Now you're
not, You're not. You're just gonna wax the or in your car.
Then that's it, and the rest of it looks all shitty. Well,
maybe i'd just do the head and maybe I'll do the back. That's how
happens. Then you look like one of those real housewivesly face, all twisted
up. Fucking idiots anyway, look bad idiots. Dude, look like I'm
in my twenties. Now you look weird. You look weird. You still
look like you're in your fifties. I just can't guess what year anymore because
I've never seen that year. I've never seen that shiny look. It's almost
like you discovered a new age between fifty two and fifty three. Yeah,
people, there's nothing wrong with being fifty two and looking fifty two. All
right, you're fifty two. You didn't get sick. Yeah, what would
you rather be fifty two and look fifty two or be fifty two and look
like a twenty eight year old lizard cat old catwoman with cat with this bulbous,
giant ass right sitting at a swimmy looking ridiculous. I don't understand it.
Can we normalize that again? Can we normalize being fifty two? Yeah?
What I want to normalize. Everybody's talking about normalizing styles, normalize,
normal line, the normal line. Can we normalize just being aging? That's
normalized aging again? Can we can we just do that? Please? Let's
make aging awesome again. Let's do that because it's kind of great. Mag
I think it's great. Make aging great again. Magah, that's what it
is. It is kind of grimulous, and there there are some really bad
things that come with it, like not remembering why you went in the kitchen.
Oh my god, that's the worst. That is the worst. And
not knowing where your keys are and there's and just being generally annoyed by the
generations that come after you. I basically hate everybody that's younger than me.
And that's okay. I think that's just part of the deal. But all
the other stuff, like age is actually not that terrible. I think the
alternative is way worse. You are absolutely right, mock, and so I
think we should. We should make aging great again. We really should because
you absolutely, we absolutely all should. There shouldn't be this much pressure to
be smooth faced and and you know what I mean, like, aside from
just regular skincare, please stop injecting things. Just don't inject and fill and
poof and you look good girl. Well it's Jeni Zel and the same right
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