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At a. Hey, everyone,
thanks so much for joining us for this

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special Saturday episode of the show.
I really appreciate you listening as always in

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can't thank you enough. For tonight's
show, we plan to have both where

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Wolf, Mike and David but come
on. But for some reason, something's

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happened to Dave. He hasn't shown
up. I contacted him just about an

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hour or so ago when he was
all go. But like I said,

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for some reason, he's not here. So we're gonna push forward with just

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Mike and myself and do it that
way. But having said that, let's

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bring Mike in now. Mike,
thanks so much for joining us. Thank

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you very much for having me.
Vick, thank you. Oh, you're

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welcome. You are welcome. Mike. For the people who've missed the shows

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you've come on and done in the
past, please tell them about yourself.

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My name is a Michael Wood fifty
nine born in Manchester in ninety sixty four.

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Grew up in Cheshire, which is
a rural county in northwest England.

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I was in the Army in the
eighties and nineties and ever since then I've

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been in a corporate security Mike,
I'm going to ask the question that I

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think probably nine to percent of the
listeners are wondering about right now. Your

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name is Ian Wood, but you
go by werewolf Mike. Where did the

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whole were wolf mic thing come from? That was given to me by Debbie

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hatswell of being Believed Research BBR,
which is one of the largest organizations in

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this country, but they mainly research
what we call what you would call sade

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or sasquatch. Over here we call
them wild men or vill VAUSA or Villevus.

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And I sort of got into,
uh, Debbie with that organization,

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and she sort of christened me where
a Wolf Mike. It's kind of stuck

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since I didn't give that myself,
that that was that wasn't a marketing employer

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might be half that was? I
was christened out by Debbie. That's funny.

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That's one heck of a nickname.
I'm just wondering, why call you

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where Wolf Mike and not were Wolf? Ian? Well, okay, I

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come from an old family and normally
the first male born given the first name

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Ian my grandfather Ian Malcolm, and
then the middle name is normally taken as

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the first name, and then Mike. They say it's Michael. Ah see

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that makes good sense. Well,
Mike, I'm just going to call you

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Mike of course, for the course
of the show here instead of being because

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yeah, there is something about the
way that flows off the tongue where Wolf

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Mike has got a great ring to
it. So I'm just going to do

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it that way. But Mike,
you've been busy since you came on the

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show last time. What have you
been up to. You've had some experiences,

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Yeah, it was like recently since
August last year. Basically due to

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family concerns, I normally don't sort
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so I'm having too early hours of
the morning or early hours in the evening.

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And of course, since we're in
the normal northern hemesphere here, you

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know, we're sunmise isn't until about
half six seven o'clock. So when I'm

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going to the woods is about four
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It's still pretty pitch black. And
when I'm driving between two locations,

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I stop off a place called Nooney
Woods, which I normally visit weekends when

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I'm back in running, and there's
a like I say, there's a country

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lane, dead Man's Lane and normally, I sort of stopped there for about

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ten to fifteen minutes, have a
walk around, and sometimes, you know,

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an awful lot of nothing happens,
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I get something like early January this
year, I hear like this scraping sound

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and it's you know, it's it's
I thought it was dry leaves on the

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tarmac road, and I realized,
actually, you know, it's been it's

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fairly damp, been raining the night
before, and a lot of the leaves

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are sudden and wet. And then
whatever it is is actually walking around me,

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and I quickly sort of catch on
these these are like nails or claw

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scraping the tarmac when it's walking around
me. I mean, I couldn't see

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it. I can say, are
great wolves or where wolves or dog men

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here have the ability to cloak?
But I could hear it, and it

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was very you know, a definitive
scraping sound, and uh, excuse me

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when I began to realize it was
circling me because I was stood in the

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middle of the road. It's the
first time I've ever heard this sound.

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But yeah, it's sort of like
it kind of had me nervous, and

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only I see like two or three
minutes, and then I said, all

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right, I've got to go because
one thing I do when I do these

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early morning trips, you know,
I'm always constantly talking to them, even

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though you know, I've got my
torture and flashing into the undergrowth and in

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the tree line having to spot them. I'm always continuously talking because you know,

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I believe, like a lot of
sasquatch researchers, you know, they

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continuously talk in the woods, and
you know, they believe that they can

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hear the sort of verbal communication.
So that's what I'm doing. And last

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Friday morning, I made a short
video and towards the end there was one

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just to my right on the other
side of the gate, and they had

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two young ones, and I sent
you the picture, you know, where

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the head is clearly visible in between
some bush and trees. But they had

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a couple of young ones with it, and the younger ones just kind of

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like dip down. It was so
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it's a flash in the light.
You know, it kind of flashes

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its teeth. You know, it's
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a bit of frustration. So that
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I was visiting a place called a
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probably said in a previous episode it's
a very speaky place. It's sort of

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borders the Seven River, which is
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been there a couple of years before, well actually before the outbreak of COVID

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here in the UK, and i'd
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two, three, four times,
and you know, they were getting used

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to me, and then we had
the lockdown and I didn't sort of go

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for a couple of years and November
I can't remember which date slisely, but

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it was a Sunday afternoon, and
eventually went there and the place where I

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go because it's quite a huge area
again there's still Gate York around it,

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and there's a pathway it goes up
and then there's a full you go left

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or you can go right. But
this time I just decided to go right

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because all previously this I'd always sort
of turn left. So anyway, this

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time I went right. And as
you're walking up there's a they pushed the

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tree right in the middle of the
of the path and as I'm getting up

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towards this tree, and I'm starting
to getting this sense of foreboding, this

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sense of push back, and it's
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if you get over the tree,
which I mean I did climb over

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the tree, you know that that
sense of feeling, that sense of disappointment,

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you know, it was quite prominent. And because I promised that I

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would come back to see them,
and I hadn't been back, and I

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just had this sense of real frustration
with me, this sense of disappointment,

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yeah again, the sense of like, you know, you promised to come

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and see it, and I just
find myself sort of saying, well,

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm
sorry. And I was there for about

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forty five minutes, maybe fifteen minutes, and climb back over the log over

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the tree. I'm walking down and
I've got my phone camera in reverse,

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so you know it's filming behind me. But as I get down towards the

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junction, I turned around and there's
one that, you know, just absolutely

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blacker than black. It was about
six seven foot tall and he was looking

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at me, but on the video
I recorded, you could just make out

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the head pushing out of the bushes
looking at me, so you know,

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I promised to come back. I
mean, I always leave some treats,

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pork chops. I've started leaving pork
chops now and sausages as opposed to sausage

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rolls and bacon. So I've had
an experience up at Melane. When was

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that. Sorry, I'm just I'm
just getting over had a really nasty cold

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about a month ago. I just
can't shake the coughs. So apologies for

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any any interference. So anyway,
I was up at Melane I go,

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which is not far from my grandmother's
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sort of Saturday Saturday evenings, and
again it's just dead quiet. Really,

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it's a really speaky place. And
I'd say sometimes you know, you can

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hear like barking in the woods and
you think, oh, maybe I ask

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the deer. And there's a lot
of partridges around there, which I used

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for by the farmers for shooting parties
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there's one time I was making a
short video and after the right there was

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like two or three cubs and off
to the left there was an adult and

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again, you know, I got
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You know that can see right right
through the foldage. And again, you

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know, I get the flash of
teeth, you know, the annoyance of

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the fact that I'm shining this thing, this torchlight in the adult size.

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Again you know you can and when
it slide down the video you can don't.

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It's got like gold and eye.
But again you know that the lips

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curl up and you can see the
teeth. I get that light out of

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my eye. But yeah, so
really it's I've booked a day off work

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this month and I'm hoping to get
out and about in daylight hours, sort

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of get into the tree line and
get into the undergrowth and see what comes

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sort of pops up. But lately
it's just been sort of confined to early

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morning hours. But the the very
strange thing is the stillness, like dead

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Man's Lane, May Lane, even
going back to Glasshouse in Gloucestershire. The

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I mean this, this this visit
to Glasshouse was in broad daylight. But

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again it's just that that heavy still
miss that that oh, it's pretty hard

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to describe. It's the like a
heavy atmosphere that there's like a a quiet,

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you know, surroundings that you know
that someone makes you want to sort

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of tread lightly. I can understand
why you would want to tread lightly when

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you know they're around. I'm wondering, Mike, you put yourself in their

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presence so often. Do you think
it's ever possible to fully trust these guys?

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Maybe if you focused on one and
kept going back to where this one

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particular dogman was time after time.
Do you think it's ever possible to have

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a situation where you can actually trust
a particular dogman. Uh, we'll put

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this way overall. I know I've
talked about I think in the first episode

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I did with you, you know, I mentioned there were a couple of

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moments where you know, I was
absolutely petrified and in one spot I was

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actually rooted. But so far,
so good. I mean, they may

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come an occasion where something might happen
that could that you know, could lead

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to me probably been taken down.
But of all the places that I visited

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or I've been to, either with
associates or by myself, that there has

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there has been you know, when
you go to a new area and they

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always seem to know that you're looking
for them, and there always always this

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sort of this push back like the
projecting fear onto you like to make you

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go away. I mean like first
when I was in Nooney Woods. I

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mean they put me through the ring
like six eight months, and when they

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realized I wasn't going to go away, they just sort of stepped back.

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They sort of accepted it. And
this is what I've said in some of

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the agent you know, repetition is
key. Once they think you're you're on

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their side. I think things can
be could be okay, but I'm sure

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there might be a situation where there
might be one that obviously acts and thinks

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differently and could you know, it
could be fatal. I mean it's not

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like I'm off to the woods to
you know, to see my canine friends.

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I mean, if if I'm in
an area where I do start feeling

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a bit uncomfortable, I walk back, I walk away. Well for me,

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in areas where I know where they
are and they let me do my

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thing, everything's good. But that's
like places like Maylane Noony Woods laughs out

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is a fifty to fifty situation.
There's there's a wood outside Winsford and Cheshire

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that I've been with David and a
friend of his, Danny and they're more

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curious than than aggressive. I mean, when I was up there with Danny

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last March, we actually witnessed a
tree being pushed over by one of these

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things, and we were walking along
the pathway and suddenly we just started seeing

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this tree well back and forth,
and then it just got pushed over,

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and the thing was Danny and I
accepted that it's just like normal, because

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you know, we've sort of been
doing this thing for quite a few years

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now, so like in a way
it didn't surprise us or we weren't like

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in awe or like wow, that's
amazing. Okay, it's pushing three over.

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We'll carry on now. When Danny
started going into these woods, I

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mean, we've got some pictures.
I mean there's some real I'm dingers,

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I mean big, big, big
ones around Winsford. And you know when

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Danny started going in there originally,
or Danny and David in these woods in

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Winsford, Yeah, you know,
they had a few blood charges and like

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absolute fear of God being projected onto
them. But you know, once they

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realized that the guys weren't going to
go away and they were leaving treats,

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it's like a peace offering or is
a gesture of goodwill, they kind of

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take a step back. And I'm
not saying there's like an ongoing working relationship

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with these things, but there's like
a give and take relationship. Now.

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The one thing I've always found is
that, especially a myn Uni Woods,

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is that the cubs, like say
I told you before, I've had incidents

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where I'm sat down, I'm like
a cup of coffee in a sandwich and

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one of them just run right up
to me and then run away. Or

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in the one instance where I found
a cup in their dan and I've left

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it bacon, and you know over
all weekend, you know the parents are

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watching. So I was they had
enough trusted me to get within three five

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foot of this cup. I mean, I think if I tried to touch

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it, I think I would have
been chop Sue. I would have been

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sushi for absolutely. But the fact
that they allowed me to get that close

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and take pictures of it shows a
certain level of trust in me. But

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whether that's just that group in Nooney
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know, repetition is key, and
obviously I'm just going there morning, evening

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weekends, so you know, it
must reach a point where they they know

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me quite well Maylane. When I
started going up there, that was I

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was absolutely I was scared, but
there was there was there was a feeling

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of like, what the hell you're
doing here? You know, we don't

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want you here. But I kept
going back and after a while there was

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like a certain level of acceptance.
Glasshouse, it was again a sense of

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I could feel it straight away because
there was a chap I think you've interviewed

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in Dan Cooling and we were sort
of messaging each other and I sat about

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this pack in in Glasshouse, Gloucestershire. I said, would it be any

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relation to the pack near you?
And he said, it's one of the

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same. They span both sides of
the seven River and a person has gone

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missing in the woods Glasshouse, and
there was some missing person's posters posted up

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and around one side of the woods
near a public car park. But again

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I think they seem to know that
you're looking for them. They respond in

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a way of like sometimes it feels
like, how the hell do you know

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that we're here? And two we're
going to try and push you away because

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we just want to be left alone. And then you know, you keep

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going back and after all, well, it's almost like, well, okay,

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he's a here, just get on
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there's I think the last time I
told you, there was a situation in

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December twenty eighteen when it was in
Nooney Woods and there was one I was

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just in a clearing and there was
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the bush, and then I suddenly
had this feeling there was one to my

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left and there was one to my
right. But they weren't in an offensive

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or defensive posture, but they were
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it, you know, to an
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And I think that's I think that's
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oh my god. You know,
come on, wake up. You've

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got to keep on your toes.
You've got to keep looking left and right,

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up and down, because you know, you know, sometimes it's like

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you get to a point where you
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it, you get so used to
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opportunity where you suddenly realized that I'm
on they're sort of psyching you out,

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or they they're testing you. Now, it was strange that it took me.

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I mean, it didn't take me
forever, but you know, it

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took me a couple of things to
realize what was going on, because I've

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heard so many times, like from
previs from previous shows that i'd listened to

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sort of twenty fifteen twenty sixteen period
where you know, like there was one,

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especially like from the North American experiences
where oh, there was one stood

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there. Then I realized there was
like two or three more to my left

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and right behind me. So it's
almost like the one in front of a

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diversion and the other two are obviously
in a sort of semi ambush position where

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they could think, right, okay, he or she is a threat and

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that's it. But I've had the
one experience where I found some tracks and

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I I just sort of felt,
you know, obviously it was great.

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I was quite excited finding these tracks, and that was falling, and I

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suddenly I had this feeling that whatever
it was, you know, it was

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like two hundred meters in front of
me, and it was absolutely hungry and

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it was going to eat and kill
whatever but still I thought, Okay,

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I'm half But sometimes I like to
think that it was kind of warningly,

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this this sense of fear that was
overwhelming me. It was like, as

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I got closer, it was like, look, I'm so hungry, I'm

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just going to eat anything that comes
across my path. So I like to

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think that maybe I was being warned
to go away. But yeah, I

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think they may come a day where
I just now, no matter how much

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experience you gain or well from what
others have to say, who knows.

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I mean, they might come a
point where I just completely read a situation

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the wrong way, and you know, something might happen to me. Y's

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sorry. I think that's the long, most long winded answer I could give

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to that one. No, it's
a good answer. I just hope that

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that never does happen to you,
Bud. You know it is. You

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could be wiped out walking across the
street walking your dog. So you never

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really do know the questions already pouring
in for you, Mike. The first

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one would be from truth Iris and
they want to know what's your vocation?

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Well, hobby, your job?
Oh, corporate security. I'm a shift

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supervisor. I work Monday to Friday, two hours a week in an office

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complex in running and when you're not
doing that, you're out there chasing those

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dogmen around. Absolutely. Amen.
Good in mand I've got another one for

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you from Alice. Alice wants to
know. And by the way, Alice,

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you didn't put your question in all
caps. I almost missed it.

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Everyone, if you have a question
for Mike, please be sure to put

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it in all calves. That way, I won't miss it. But Alice's

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question is do you think dog men
and bigfoot have any sort of relationship with

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each other? I'm sorry, any
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heard. I've heard, like you
know, the witnesses like on your program,

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where they've been seeing cooperating with each
other. But I firmly believe,

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certainly in this country that great wolves
here take sort of young or juvenile sasquat

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here is food. And I've never
heard of an account here in this country

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where both have seen cooperating or in
some sort of social relationship with each other.

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But that's not to say that that
they do. I'm pretty sure maybe

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in North America Canada there is some
sort of level of cooperation, but I

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think here the wolves will eat sort
of young or juvenile save sasquatch people.

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I mean north of ready. Sorry, there's definitely like a demarcation line in

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the woods where the wild men stay
on one side and the walls stay on

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one side of this sort of like
borderline, this demarcation line. Yeah.

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Sorry, Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought you were done. Please continue.

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Yeah, I got to say,
because I mean in eight years since

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I've been doing this, I mean
I've seen the sasquatch or well housed people

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up in the woods on one side. I've seen them seven times in eight

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years, but they never seem to
be further south of a particular market,

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which is a footpath actually a wood
trail, and I've never seen them south.

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And they seem to be there between
sort of January February March going into

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April, and then they seem to
leave this area and the walls the canines

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come back in, because I think
it's a heavily populated canine area, but

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the uptick in canine activity so it's
sort of like late April May, and

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that's when the first cubs appear.
What you said about it, I'm sorry,

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please continue. I thought you were
done. No, no, no,

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no, carry on back, no
please, heah, go on.

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What you said about them normally not
mixing. That's how it is over here

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in the United States for the most
part. Every once in a while you

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have a credible eye witness come forward
and report seeing them together. But that's

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very, very rare in most cases. It seems like over here, just

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like over there, they seemed to
mix like oil and water. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, I think so
too. I mean there's I mean,

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I've listened to people that obviously have
communication with Sasquatch, and you know,

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they've sort of communicated to people that
they don't like the wolf people, as

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they call them, So I would
assume that there is a certain indifference between

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the two. But I personally in
the UK, I've never heard or witnessed

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a meeting or a grouping, but
certainly from my own experience north of Reading,

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they definitely seem to sort of stay
apart from each other and then come

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into late late spring, let's say, the people here, they seem to

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go somewhere else and then the canines
literally have full control or run of all

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of the woods where I go to. So that just makes researching that much

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better for you. He does.
Yeah, that's a good thing. The

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next question up would be from UFO
Drone Guy and he wants to know or

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is saying either Mike, have you
ever had an encounter in or near the

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Yessex area southeast UK? Oh?
No, there is. There is a

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lot of activity. I mean,
especially the big cats, the big felines,

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you know, the leopards and the
panthers. A lot of cats down

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there, big cats. I believe
that there is Suffolk on the other side

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of the Thames Estuary, so you're
going into obviously Essex, Suffolk, Cambridge.

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There's a lot of canine activity north
of the terms Estuary and then on

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the south side so when you're going
into Kent that way again there's an awful

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lot of big cat activity. But
I think most of the canine activities certainly

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Norfolk and Suffolk, but Essex is
you get a lot of wild man activity

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down there as well as the sort
of panther and the leopards, a lot

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of big cat activity down there.
It sounds to me like you have these

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guys mapped out pretty effectively. Yeah, yeah, No, there's a couple

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of there's a couple of guys here
who well, actually you know before before

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the I mean the wild Man,
you know, the Saturday of the sasquatch

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type person in the UK. Is
that is rich in English oral and written

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history. But also so the big
cats, and I mean there were wolves

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are the great Wolves. They've always
been sort of put on on the back

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burner. But certainly regarding the big
cats and the wild Man, you know,

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there's there's there's a lot more sort
of oral and written tradition in English

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folklore in history as opposed to the
canine, so that there's a lot of

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It's certainly an awful lot to go
on, you know, if you want

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to follow the big cats and that
there are in fact there I think that's

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two two big Cat associations, the
track and map these things. But there's

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one guy called Jonathan. I've got
his surname, but he's I'm pretty sure

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some of the more English listeners when
they listen to the show, we realize

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who I'm talking about because he's he
was famous for making a cookery book on

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roadkill. He he goes throughund some
of the country raids collecting roadkill and he

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cooks it, and I think he
did a roadkill recipe cookbook. But he's

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been interviewed a few times. Jonathan
McGowan. It's his name, Jonathan McGowan,

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and I think he's probably the best
big cat expert that we have in

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this country. And you've got a
website. I'm pretty sure if you just

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google Jonathan McGowan big cats, you'll
find it pretty easily. But if you

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know, if you want proof positive, go to that guy's website. But

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yeah, and then regarding the bigfoot, well, our English bigfoot you've got

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obviously BBR Debbie Hatswell, you've got
the winter Hill Group. They're on Facebook.

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But I think the only no,
I would say, I'm going to

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be blowing my own trumpet here,
but I think the only group dedicated to

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English great wolves or were wolves or
dog men is what I call the t

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g w A. It's the Great
Wolf Association. It's only about eight or

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nine members, but we have an
awful lot of associates in Germany and here

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in the UK, Ireland and Scotland
who are primarily more dedicated to researching and

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logging and reporting canine activity in this
country. You know, yeah, sorry,

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no, I'm sorry, please after
you. I was going to say,

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because you find a lot of activity
is more centered towards the sort of

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wild man the big foot sort of
theme. But you know, to sort

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of say which in a way is
more believable as to sort of saying,

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well, by the way, you
know, there's like walking canines in this

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country as well. Yeah, which
is I think a harder pill to swallow

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than saying that there's a wild man
living in the woods, which I think

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is more acceptable to a lot of
people. Oh, it definitely is.

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It definitely is. Sounds like you've
got the UK pretty well covered with researchers

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if anything happens. I don't think
that there would be a researcher that far

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from where it occurred, at least
that's how it sounds. Well, it's

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well, a couple of them are
law enforcement and their rural police officers,

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and there's a couple in Germany.
But essentially that there's obviously David and Danny

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in Cheshire. There's some people I
can't name simply because of their their jobs,

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because you know they're sort of tied
in with the sort of local government

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type work and you know there is
a penalty, you know, lots of

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earnings and lots of pension, which
were a subject which really officially doesn't exist

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for a creature that belongs in myth
you know, it's it's I know one

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instance, uh you know, the
guy said they'd lose, he'd never work

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in this country ever. So it's
it's actually, it's actually trying to One

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of the worst things is actually,
I know David tried this, you know,

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trying to get farmers to open up. And I think we've only I

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think David and Danny, I think
found one guy found a farmer outside Winsford.

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This is going back a couple of
years, and this is what David

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related to me, was that a
farmer thought a bull was out in the

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field. You know, he got
out of its paddock and it was just

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wandering around the field. So you
can already imagine the size of this thing

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if it's about the size of a
full grown ball. So hops over the

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fence, starts walking towards what he
thinks is his bull, trying to get

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it back into the paddock. He
says. As he's getting closer and closer

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to it, he suddenly stands up
on two legs and he's thinking, that

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ain't no effing ball, he said. He looks more like a massive dog.

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But it stood on two feet and
then it starts walking towards him slowly,

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and he said, this thing was
huge. He said he couldn't sort

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of yes, it's height, but
it was big. And he said,

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I just you know. David said
that the farmer just turned around and just

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walked back as quickly as he could
back to his vehicle on the road.

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I got over the fence, he
says. As he turned around, he

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said, this thing we'd gone back
and all fours and gone into the woods.

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Imagine how shot that farmer must have
been. Oh yeah, wow,

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here you think it's a ball and
it stands up and this is as big

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as a ball on two legs.
They grew to be twelve feet around here

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in the States. How big did
they get over there? Do you know?

407
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Oh? Well, I think we've
had we've got the standard issue seven

408
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:32,840
to eight foot US. But I
would say the insomniac Chap who reported to

409
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:40,519
you in October twenty seventeen, he
saw one where he saw his in Redding

410
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,280
was actually on the sunn edge of
Noon near woods, and that was ten

411
00:45:45,360 --> 00:46:00,400
foot. I've come across one where
this I think this is May twenty eighteen,

412
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:06,119
and I like to say I should
drive this scode to Octavia. It's

413
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:15,599
a five door family saloon. One
point eight later, A park up and

414
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:22,639
walking to an open an open area
before I hit the tree line. And

415
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,880
as I'm walking up to the tree
line, I look over to my right.

416
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:30,519
It's a beautiful hot day, so
the tree canopy is pretty hanging over.

417
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:35,000
It's low to the ground, lots
of shade, and I just noticed

418
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:43,679
the side of the head because it's
got a jowl. I can see the

419
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,679
left side of the head, the
ear and the head must have been there

420
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:52,400
been about three foot across easy,
and this thing is looking at me.

421
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,159
I went, you're all right,
mate, I said, I'll tell you

422
00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:59,480
what I said. I'm going back
to the car and I'm going home,

423
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:06,880
okay. So I turn around,
get in the car and I waked.

424
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:13,320
I wait for him to pop up, and I took about two three pictures

425
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:17,400
and I left. So that was
a Saturday. He went back on the

426
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,960
Sunday and I found the area where
he'd been lying down. So he must

427
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,960
have crept from under the tree all
the way through the grass before he stuck

428
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:37,480
his head up to have a look
at me. And I measured it and

429
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:42,280
in terms of width and length.
It was the same size as my car.

430
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,480
And this thing must have been about
I would must have been about twelve

431
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:54,559
foot easy. Well, I mean, I mean, I've found a sixteen

432
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:59,519
inch print, but the biggest one
I've ever found was twenty two inches.

433
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,079
And I wrack this belonged to what
I called the Big Boss. And I

434
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:13,239
only ever managed to get it back
to two photos of him in seven years.

435
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,960
And he looked he like I said, he was about the side if

436
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,519
you look up the side of a
four ton Bedford Army truck British Army,

437
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:27,920
a four ton Bedford truck, that's
how big he would have been on foot

438
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:38,039
all fours Yeah, and I mean
this this thing, h he looked like

439
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:42,760
he'd seen it, done it,
repeat, seen it, done it repeat.

440
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,199
He had a look in his face
like he just couldn't give a flying

441
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,599
f anymore. He was just too
long on the two to get excited about.

442
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:58,239
He just looked like really he was. He just looked ready to leave

443
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:04,440
this mortal cord. He had a
really really tired look about him. You

444
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:07,960
know, I'm sure he had seen
him done everything. And when you're that

445
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:10,239
big and you're a dog man,
I don't think you have to worry about

446
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:16,440
much trouble. I think everything else
breaks does whatever they can, they get

447
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,039
the heck out of your way.
At least if they have any common sense

448
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:28,559
they would. Oh yeah, I
mean he December twenty eighteen. It was

449
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:34,920
the first time I saw him,
and I think the following year was probably

450
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:42,760
April March or April twenty nineteen.
I was walking. I was in Neoniey

451
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,599
Woods, walking along this wide path
around to the right, and he was

452
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:54,519
up there, sat on the ground, sort of half in and out some

453
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:59,559
bushes. I was about friend of
the mates. I took a picture of

454
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:04,000
him, and I went to the
picture, I looked up. He was

455
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,239
gone, Well, he just had
this. He just had this real,

456
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:24,000
really really tired look about him,
really really long in the two he probably

457
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:29,400
was ready to check out and move
on to the next phase if he's been

458
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,400
around there, so you're probably right
about that. I've got another question for

459
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,079
you, Mike from UFO Droom Guy. His question is, Mike, do

460
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:45,159
you have Mike did you have a
bad encounter in Tetford Forest? Oh yeah,

461
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:52,440
jeez, yeah, oh my god. Yeah. One one. It

462
00:50:52,559 --> 00:51:00,039
was a weekend and I had there
was four ok, I wanted to visit.

463
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,320
Now, from Reading to Thetford it's
about four and a half hour drive,

464
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,760
so I left it about half three
in the morning, and I was

465
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:17,840
my idea. My plan was to
spend an hour in each location. There

466
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:24,400
was four locations, and Thetford Forest
is just like, as soon as you

467
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,639
get out there, you're just you
know, something not right with that place.

468
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:37,960
I was on my toes the whole
time. And there was a location

469
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:42,760
where when I stopped for lunch and
I had something thrown at the car.

470
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:49,480
I sat in the car on the
lunch and this thing landed plumb dead center.

471
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:57,320
I nearly pulled my plants because I
was already very nervous. But on

472
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:06,159
the last location I wanted to visit, there was there was some structures and

473
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:15,719
about maybe maybe one hundred meters or
so to my right there was a structure

474
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,719
and all I could see was a
pair of golden eyes looking back at me

475
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,400
and like a black shape. And
I did take a picture, but I

476
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,239
could see this thing. I thought, you know, it's time to check

477
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,360
out. I'm going home. But
yeah, Deptford Forest, it's just like

478
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:43,559
you're just on your toes the whole
time. It's just a weird place.

479
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:52,760
I mean Randallsham. I think it's
about seventy eighty miles south. You know

480
00:52:52,840 --> 00:53:00,320
Randallsham, the UFO encounter over the
US Air Force personnel back in the early

481
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:07,159
nineteen eighties. It's down there.
I mean it Suffolk, Norfolk is a

482
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:13,079
weird place. I mean, I
think it's one of the most famous encounters

483
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:21,920
for a dog manwolf fifteen seventy seven. There's a village and forty four people

484
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,000
were killed inside the church by one
of these things. Apparently it was like

485
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:30,119
one of the worst storms of storms
in recorded history, and this dog man

486
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:37,719
first into the church and whether it
was scared of the lightning sheet lightning storm,

487
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,480
because all the people were in the
church, point that God opened to

488
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:44,880
go away and this thing first in
and I think killed about forty three people,

489
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,800
forty four people. But the thing
is the claw marks are still on

490
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:55,280
the inside of the church store to
this day. Wow. So and it's

491
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:02,760
not far from an abbey. Again, this is in Suffolk. They were

492
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:10,639
excavating. I know abby has been
abandoned for about a thousand years, but

493
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,039
in one of the graves where the
monks were buried, they found the remains

494
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:19,880
of a cane nine that was seven
foot tall. Huh. I wonder where

495
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:28,360
that could have been indeed. Yeah, wow, that's pretty amazing. I've

496
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:36,079
got another question for you from Lena
Grin Sliot Grins Late yet, and her

497
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:40,480
question is, have you had some
pictures which you've taken disappear from your camera?

498
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,599
Umm? No, but I've had
videos. I mean, I've got

499
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:53,840
a small YouTube channel, nothing exciting
nor sing to shout about. But I've

500
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:02,360
had videos because i did not upload
for about nearly three years because one time

501
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,840
I had twenty one videos, and
then I had sixteen videos. I had

502
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:15,920
five videos go missing, and then
there was twenty videos. So four have

503
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,639
been put back, but there was
one that was never a return and I

504
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,920
just thought, oh my god,
I'll leave it. I've had pictures where

505
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:32,079
one of the best ones I ever
got was you know I told you about

506
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:37,599
where one June Saturday evening, I
was going to go out camping and there

507
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:43,000
was nine of them waiting for me, which had never happened to me before.

508
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,960
And then I went to another location
and I've got four of them walking

509
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:57,119
in all fours Indian, in single
file, and they the way they looked

510
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:06,400
was exactly like the one from all
those guys that used to mountain monsters?

511
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:12,920
Did you remember that, those chaps, those you know, the guys I'm

512
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,559
talking about. How can I forget? But there was one, there was

513
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:23,119
one farmer who had this seven foot
black canine come out of a woodshed and

514
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:30,519
they were exactly like that, beautiful, beautiful things. And you know,

515
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,039
I was showing my messes and I
said, look at that. That is

516
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:37,199
awesome. I was. I was
so amazed. You could see four of

517
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,320
them clearly defined, one behind the
other. And then the picture started to

518
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,760
fade. All you can see now
is just a fake outline of them.

519
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,840
But on the evening, you know, obviously, when when I got back

520
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,519
home, she's like, oh,
so you know, if you're scared,

521
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:58,079
oh yeah, yeah, get the
rabbit. I was like, well yes,

522
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,119
And then I showed of the picture
and she was like, because you

523
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:06,320
know she really wasn't into it,
you know she will too. She was

524
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,920
like, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, sit down and have a

525
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,280
cup of T shirt. And then
I showed her this picture. She was

526
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,880
like, oh my god, yeah, you can see them clearly. And

527
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:25,039
I appeared as days the picture started
to fade, I was you can see

528
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:37,679
the first one just about but the
other three almost gone. And that well,

529
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:44,559
I've never had pictures taken off my
phone. No, I've had videos

530
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:50,280
taking off my channel and then put
back after a period of time. But

531
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:57,239
one has been permanently taken off.
It's a shame you have to worry about

532
00:57:57,239 --> 00:58:00,519
that. You go through all the
work to take these pictures and collect evidence

533
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:06,159
and then something like that happens.
It really is a shame. Yeah,

534
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,280
got another question from you from the
Blood VIPA and his question is, Mike,

535
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,039
what would you say was the most
terrific encounter that you've had and where

536
00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:22,639
was it? Oh? That was
ok, the one, the one where

537
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:31,639
I was absolutely doing it. I
mean I said earlier I mentioned on a

538
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:37,440
previous show where I found these wonderful
tracks and I'm following them and I suddenly

539
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,480
got this urge that there's something two
hundred meters ahead of me and it was

540
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:45,559
hungry and it didn't give a flying
fig what it was. It was going

541
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:52,639
to kill and eat it, and
I was I was absolutely petrified. And

542
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:55,840
there was another time February twelve.
That's why this is when I had three

543
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:04,199
of them. And excuse me,
that Sunday morning back nine point thirty third,

544
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,280
twelve, twenty seventeen. Get out
of the car. I'm feeling pretty

545
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:16,320
bulliant, actually I was. I
am literally like four months into the hobby,

546
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,039
and for some reason, I was
feeling pretty complacent. I walked down

547
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:30,079
the gate along some monk ground on
one just came out of the undergrowth on

548
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:34,719
my left, and it was moving
from left right, and it went up

549
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,800
on two legs and turned left into
the tree line, and I was absolutely

550
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:46,519
to the spot it could have There
was once my left chase chasing a pheasant

551
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,840
and I heard it get caught.
I heard it like the bones being crunched,

552
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,960
and then there was one behind me
across the road that barked so loud.

553
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,079
That's what snapped me out of there. But when I saw this thing

554
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:04,000
get out of the undergrowth from left
to right, I was I was absolutely

555
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,079
doing it. I was absolutely petrified, and I was rootly to the spot

556
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:15,480
in fear. I couldn't move.
But when this thing, the third one

557
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,519
behind me barked, it snapped me
out of it. And that's when I

558
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:23,159
went back to the car. I
sat there for about ten minutes. After

559
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,440
right, I put my big boy
pants on and I took some pictures,

560
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,360
and that's when I noticed that the
seven that I took, in three or

561
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,880
four of them, there was like
this black dot that was getting bigger and

562
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,800
bigger and bigger. And it was
the one that I had come up from

563
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:45,400
my left and on all fours and
then went up on two legs and turn

564
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:50,360
left, so basically circled all the
way back around and was coming up on

565
01:00:50,400 --> 01:01:00,360
my right to check on me.
I mean, I've had I I mean,

566
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:04,840
say, you can go to a
place like Thattford or Glasshouse. I

567
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:12,000
mean the first even even going up
to Canic Chase the first time, you

568
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,960
can just feel like this vibe that
there's something really off about these places.

569
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:25,159
But Glasshouse, yeah, kind of
on your toes that forest. I would

570
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:30,480
go back there one day, but
I'm not in a rush to get back

571
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:36,159
there, Let's put it that way. If I did, I'd go with

572
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:43,079
a busload of tourists just for safety. Now I understand, I've got one

573
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:46,800
for you from Hades Pucci, which
is, Mike, have you ever investigated

574
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:54,800
in Dorset at all one time?
I know, I know there's a lot

575
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,679
goes on down there, and I
think there's a very famous picture of one

576
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:07,800
that there's a big black one.
It's on all fours and it was a

577
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,519
school teacher. I took a picture
of it and she said it was about

578
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:21,400
the size of our bison at her
words. I think there's even a video

579
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:27,320
of one running alongside a car,
I think along one of the a roads

580
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:38,840
down in Devon going to Cornwall.
And I think the only known death attributed

581
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:44,360
to one of these was a woman
that died of shock after two dogs were

582
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:51,440
slaughtered in nineteen ninety six down that
way. But there's certainly, yeah,

583
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,719
there's certainly a lot of activity down
there. I've been down there once for

584
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:04,840
a long weekend, but there's just
not enough time to get around and sort

585
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,719
of get to some of these.
Okay, you really need to get a

586
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,840
week off. If I was to
do Devon or even the three counties,

587
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:23,719
which is I think Worcestershire, Goucestershire
and Shropshire, I think you need about

588
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:31,559
like two weeks to really get around
and investigate. And certainly if you're going

589
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:37,400
to drive down to Devon, Cornwall, Somerset, I mean there's a lot

590
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:43,760
of activity in Somerset as well.
For someplace like Devan, you would you

591
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:51,639
would need at least probably a good
week sort like two weekends five days Monday

592
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:55,800
at the Friday and then two Saturday
Saturdays. But you would have you would

593
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:02,599
have to be on the road pretty
early to eight nine at night. That

594
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,960
is a lot of time to set
aside to research. So yeah, I

595
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,320
know you're said than done. I've
got another question for you. I guess

596
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,599
it's a comment from blood Vipe,
but he says, I think sasquatch and

597
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:18,760
dog men move around. The only
one of them isn't anyone places at any

598
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:38,000
time. Well, I got with
a knee activity. I mean the opposed

599
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:48,519
to take the Ninny Woods pack.
They are there all the time that there's

600
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:53,679
like the last week of December in
each year, they like ninety percent of

601
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:57,039
them just seemed to go somewhere.
A whitch team to this day, I

602
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:01,320
don't know. It seems to be
like a rare guard stays behind just to

603
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:08,920
keep an eye on the place,
and then come April early May time they're

604
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:16,000
all back. I've noticed that the
male's sort of end of January February start

605
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:20,480
cropping up. Then the females come
about a month later when they're ready to

606
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:29,480
give birth. But as a whole
like last week of December. Like sometimes

607
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:34,960
there's just nothing happen. There's just
like no activity, and they just see

608
01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:43,039
all seem to go somewhere. I
really don't know where they go. So

609
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,519
for the wild men end of March, they seem to move somewhere else,

610
01:05:51,840 --> 01:06:02,880
but they're sort of out towards going
strictly Pangborn on the probably on let me

611
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:08,800
see, Yeah, they'd be on
the north side of the Thames terms rubber.

612
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,840
But to me that there certainly seems
to be like a a border demarcation

613
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:29,000
zone for the both of them.
So I would say that the canines here

614
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,599
seem to be territorial, you know, they seem to be fixed in one

615
01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:43,239
territory. I really couldn't give an
answer as to if a save sasquatch while

616
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:48,000
meant it, if they move around, or if they're territorial, because I

617
01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:55,599
say that's that's not really my main
area of focus of attention or research.

618
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,800
Well, they can't be held against
you. I mean, south squads rowfully

619
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,320
hard to pattern, just like dog
men, it's really hard to deal.

620
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,679
I've got another one for you from
just Andy. His question is do they

621
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:15,760
prefer colder climates? Would you see
them in Spain or France. Oh,

622
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,360
they they're certainly in Spain, in
southern Spain. I don't know where.

623
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:28,519
It's Morocco or two Narsia where they're
actually officially recognized as part of their wildlife.

624
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:32,159
I know they're certainly in Afghanistan.
I mean, they're all over the

625
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:44,800
place. They Hindu Cush India.
I mean, I talked to a couple

626
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,559
of former Royal Marines that did tours
of duty in Afghanistan, and you know,

627
01:07:49,639 --> 01:07:57,119
like one of them said, you
know where they're firebase was most nights

628
01:07:57,239 --> 01:08:01,480
used to get ten or twelve and
just walk walking under the floodlights of the

629
01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:09,079
camp and you know, outside the
front of the camp, and he said,

630
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,159
what was curious to the last one
used to stop, turn around and

631
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:17,159
look up, look up at them, you know, just like total curiosity

632
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:21,560
on the face, and then they
just walk off, he said. But

633
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:28,520
they would always do this in all
force. I mean, they're certainly down

634
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:38,359
in southern Spain, Grenada, eastern
and southeastern France. They're in the Voge

635
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:46,359
right up in the north as well, certainly in Germany and western down in

636
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:57,439
the southeast and the northwest. But
they're everywhere that's how they are over here.

637
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,119
They're all over the place, and
it really doesn't come as any surprise

638
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,760
to hear that that's how it is
over there as well. I've got another

639
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:09,720
one for you from Blood Vipa.
He wants to know, Mike, I've

640
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:18,000
had encounters in snow in Cornwall.
Have you ever investigated there? Snow Donia

641
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:28,840
that's Cornwall, No, snow Donia. I've been to Southern Wales twice so

642
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:33,600
how We Forest and I was put
in contact with a chap that lives ten

643
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:44,880
ten miles southwest of I've got the
name of the town, but it's it's

644
01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:49,079
it's near so how We Forest that
I've had two encounters there, but certainly

645
01:09:51,479 --> 01:10:01,399
snow Donia. I know Dean Cooling
has had an encounter up there. This

646
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:08,600
Welsh guy that I talked to that
had his encounter ten miles southwest of Howie

647
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:15,119
Forest. He was a hospital worker
and that really and he was just out

648
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:23,600
walking, you know, for Sunday
stroll and this thing just start right up

649
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:29,640
in front of him less than ten
feet and it freaked him out. Well,

650
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:35,079
I'll bet that did freak him out. I can understand why. I

651
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:40,399
it's just you know, it's just
like I've got this ready long to do

652
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:45,319
list. I mean, i want
to go back up to Scotland. I'm

653
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:55,720
going up to Yorkshire in May,
back up to danes Dyke and where Old

654
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:02,399
Stinker rhymes. I'm hoving to do
some I've got a week off in March,

655
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:09,000
so there's a couple of locations and
one of as it then. But

656
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:17,680
it's just like the only way I
could get a lot more traveling, a

657
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:29,359
lot more research done, is if
I was to retire early and get out

658
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:33,640
there and Monday the Friday driving up
and down and do it that way.

659
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:39,039
But at the moment, like I
say, you know, I'm to work

660
01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:45,119
and you know, with family issues, it's pretty hard at the moment.

661
01:11:46,399 --> 01:11:54,159
I certainly had to curtail a lot
of my workload in terms of research since

662
01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:59,359
August last year. But if the
opportunity arises, I mean, if I

663
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:06,199
was to get back down to Cornwall
Devon a ward, but I think the

664
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:12,720
only way I would really get back
to a lot, like I mean,

665
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,000
I've not even had a good chance
to go up to North Wales. Well

666
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:25,000
there's a lot of activity, or
even Mid Wales, but it's just really

667
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:35,800
like Lincolnshire. I want to go
back to Suffunck. But yeah, the

668
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:43,399
only way would be to take early
retirement, and that way I could I

669
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:48,520
could get to all these places Monday, Friday, week and weekend. Well,

670
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,199
as you know, they're not going
anywhere. Whenever you are ready to

671
01:12:51,279 --> 01:12:58,960
retire, they're going to be here, So no big on that at all.

672
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,239
The next one up on deck is
from Shila R. And Sheila's question

673
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:09,039
is you're very brave knowing one of
these times could be your last? Is

674
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:15,479
it worth it? Yes? Well
that didn't take you long to answer.

675
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:23,159
That's good. Well I absolutely Well, like I said before, if it

676
01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:31,039
does, if it does come to
some sort of fightful ending, I just

677
01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:36,680
hope I got to go to Valhalla. You know, it better be worth

678
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:44,520
it. That's all I can say. Hopefully that won't happen, But if

679
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,079
one does take you out, just
imagine the conversations. You're probably gonna be

680
01:13:47,079 --> 01:13:50,680
talking to a guy who is going
to tell you about dying from choking on

681
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:56,760
a ham sandwich and then was your
turn. Your story is going to be

682
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,600
so much more interesting. Yeah,
I would say I can beat that,

683
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,600
no problem. Yes, you will
be able to if that happens, which,

684
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,800
like I said, hopefully I won't. But the next one up for

685
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,720
you is from Ramsey Morris, and
Ramsey's question is what is your opinion on

686
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:30,920
them being extraterrestrial? Oh? Um, okay. I I think personally,

687
01:14:31,039 --> 01:14:35,439
I think they're earth bound, their
flesh and blood, they come with the

688
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:41,880
whole box of tricks. But I
think the mechanics of how they came to

689
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:51,760
be here may have had or may
have been a result of outside interference.

690
01:14:54,840 --> 01:15:02,039
But I don't think they are extraterrestrial. I think they are of this Earth.

691
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:06,760
They've been around a long time.
But how they came to be the

692
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:12,760
way that they are, I now
begin to believe that they are a result

693
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:18,439
of outside influence. Same as the
Sale. Well, I know that there's

694
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:26,439
an awful lot of I know Scott
Carpenter before he sadly passed away. You

695
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:32,359
know, he did a book that
was based on DNA research, and you

696
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:39,439
know the ninety percent is female,
and like ten or six percent of the

697
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:50,079
sasquatch male. DNA is of unknown
origin, but that the level of bioengineering

698
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:56,760
required would have meant something as an
outside source. And I think the same

699
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,399
applies to the dog Man. Great
wolf were wolf. I mean even if

700
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:03,600
you go to the early legends,
I mean a Native American, you know,

701
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:14,279
a coyote spirit tricking the creator,
you know, to making them like

702
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:21,720
a man. Or a king got
his name, King Lysis of Arcadia,

703
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:30,600
tricking Zeus into eating meat that turned
out to be his dead son, and

704
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,520
is his punishment, he turned them
into a man wolf. So again,

705
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:41,239
you know, there's that sort of
inference that there is some sort of sort

706
01:16:41,279 --> 01:16:47,399
of bioengineering by a greater power or
a greater authority. But I certainly come

707
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:57,800
to for me, they are of
this earth, the flesh and blood,

708
01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:01,279
biological. They can do a great
many things which a lot of people would

709
01:17:01,279 --> 01:17:08,279
think would be considered supernatural. But
how they came to be I think was

710
01:17:08,279 --> 01:17:16,920
the result of outside influence, something
from above. You just might be right,

711
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,880
you never know. The next one
up is from the sober Carper and

712
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:29,319
they want to know where they can
see your pictures. Oh, bbr.

713
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:34,640
I used to post on that there's
a few UK dog Man sites. I

714
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:43,359
mean I've sent you some, Vick. I'm not currently a member of any

715
01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:50,479
Facebook dog Man UK page. I
mean I do run a private group on

716
01:17:51,159 --> 01:18:03,760
telegram, but no there are there
are pictures on different Facebook sort of cryptid

717
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:15,800
groups. Doug Man UK BBR.
I got our own sort of YouTube channel.

718
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,840
Like I say, it's it's no
big big thing. I mean I

719
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,720
do say I'm there a couple of
times on some of the videos. So

720
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,960
if you have the ability to download
them, you can slow them down to

721
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:34,760
like literally frame a second and you'll
see them because they'll move so quick.

722
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,600
When you run the video at normal
speed, you just think I'm out making

723
01:18:41,039 --> 01:18:45,920
fantastic videos of English countryside. But
if you slow them down here you go

724
01:18:46,119 --> 01:18:51,880
them frame by frame, you'll see
them pop up because they're that quick.

725
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,880
I'm sure the answer is going to
be no. But would you mind if

726
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,920
I posted a link to YouTube channel
in the description for tonight's show, No,

727
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,560
no, no, you carry on
alsome? Thank you? Oh you're

728
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,159
welcome. Yet it's the least I
can do. Well, I'm going to

729
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,560
do that. Then I'm going to
post that length and to make it really

730
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,640
easy for the listeners to visit your
channel and take a look at your evidence.

731
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:24,800
Then, yeah, Phil, feel
free to make any comments. I

732
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:30,920
mean, you know you did a
few negative comments, but you know it

733
01:19:31,079 --> 01:19:39,199
doesn't phase me. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of what you expect in

734
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:42,640
some ways, at least to a
certain degree. So oh, yeah,

735
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,600
and I understand. The next one
up is from Josie Maine Kuhn, and

736
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,079
her question is do you think the
trio cam videos and pictures of dog men

737
01:19:51,079 --> 01:20:02,359
are real or fake? Oh?
That's a good one. Uh, do

738
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:10,119
you know? From what I've seen, one or two of them might be

739
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,000
a bit iffy. But I think
overall cam track, because I know they

740
01:20:16,039 --> 01:20:20,640
can see the infrared. I think
a lot of the camp trail stuff is

741
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:27,720
real. But there are one or
two where you could actually sort of go

742
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:33,520
that doesn't look right, you know, it doesn't look like someone's you know,

743
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:40,439
trying their best to spin a yard. But now that is an excellent

744
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:48,520
question. But yeah, I think
I would say a vast majority of a

745
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:58,159
good portion of trail cam film more
photos are genuine. And then there are

746
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:01,760
some that are a bit are a
bit, say the least. Yeah,

747
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:08,079
some are very dodgy unfortunately. Yeah. Hey, it looks like Yvonne Marshall's

748
01:21:08,079 --> 01:21:11,520
in the chat in the live chat
room. Yvonne, thanks so much,

749
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,359
as always for listening. She said
that she's been tuning into the show since

750
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:17,840
twenty eighteen, and I believe it. I've been seeing her comments for a

751
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:25,960
long time now. Oh wow,
Yeah she's from Yeah, she's from Cornwall,

752
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,239
all right, she is all right. The next one up is from

753
01:21:30,399 --> 01:21:32,840
UFO Drone Guy, and he wants
to know, Mike, have you ever

754
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:39,520
been followed because of your involvement with
dog men by the government. Yeah.

755
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:45,960
Now, I think I've mentioned this
on the first episode I did, or

756
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:55,039
maybe the second. But yeah,
there was a period where twenty nineteen twenty

757
01:21:55,119 --> 01:22:00,880
twenty, I had some I was
definitely followed on three occasions. Don't gonna

758
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,239
be sure. We had an envelope
of white powder. My dad had a

759
01:22:04,279 --> 01:22:08,359
phone call saying I was in hospital
when I wasn't. I've been in an

760
01:22:08,399 --> 01:22:19,199
accident and I was on life support. Always always crap, Yeah, I

761
01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:24,000
mean, I mean even one time
when I was getting fueled from a car

762
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:28,000
here in Whitney, I went into
paying I was walking out. There's a

763
01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:32,239
silver beam of silver at the n
W five series with two dudes sating it

764
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:34,560
looking at me, and I was
just like, oh my god, I

765
01:22:35,359 --> 01:22:40,800
say, you know, can you
be obvious as you are? And they

766
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:46,960
drove off but they were Yeah,
they were eyeballing me. But I know,

767
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:59,039
I know the people have had weird
and wonderful experiences. Yeah, I

768
01:22:59,039 --> 01:23:03,399
can only imagine the people have contacted
you. I've got another question for you

769
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:08,720
from Chiumen and Chiuman wants to know. Hi. Mike Any Kennon reports from

770
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:17,079
Gloucestershire. Gloucestershire County, Forest of
Dean. Oh God, yeah, yeah,

771
01:23:17,239 --> 01:23:25,680
I mean that's what I'm saying.
Glasowse is in Gloucestershire. It's I

772
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:32,399
think it's about eight nine miles.
Let me see east of the Forest of

773
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:42,560
Dean. My sister lives down there, the structures Forest of Dean. It's

774
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:47,279
the same pact that goes into Sahowie
Forest and up into the Bracken Beacons.

775
01:23:51,359 --> 01:23:58,640
I would say that that the big
a lot of them are predominantly jet jet

776
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:08,000
black. But Glasshouse, Yeah,
yeah, Gloucestershire is like, uh,

777
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:15,760
there's a chapters of the video the
three Counties were wolf. Let's say I

778
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:24,039
think it's Gloucestershire, Worcestershire and Shropshire
is the three counties. But yeah,

779
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:30,239
the Glasshouse, Gloucestershire. If you
can get down there and have a walk

780
01:24:30,319 --> 01:24:36,880
around there, yeah, there's there's
a few in there. If anyone would

781
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:43,800
know, you would so person definitely. Oh yeah, yeah, Gloucestershire is

782
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:50,319
like real, I like a real
hotspot for them. Oh no, I

783
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:55,159
believe it. Like I said,
you would know, you definitely would.

784
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,479
What about out of time before we
get out of here, though, Mike,

785
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:00,640
do you have any those and comments
you like to put out there for

786
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:12,520
us? Uh? Well, I
just hope Dave's all right. I wish

787
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:19,319
you could have made it and yeah, just just many thanks for having me

788
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:25,680
back on BAB. It's been wonderful
as always, and thanks to everybody with

789
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:30,840
all the questions. Yeah, thanks
very much for having me. Well,

790
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,840
thanks so much for coming back.
Yeah. When I put it out there

791
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,760
that you're going to be coming back
on to do this live stream, there's

792
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,159
a lot of interest and you know, I shouldn't come as a surprise to

793
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:45,800
anyone because with all of your experiences, you're very interesting. Listen. I

794
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,680
just hope you keep doing what you
do and you never give up and you

795
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,640
never have any issues out there when
you are beating the bushes, because it

796
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:58,399
goes without saying. You're obviously a
good man and I wish the best for

797
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,079
you, thank you very much.
Thanks. Oh, you're welcome. Thanks

798
01:26:02,119 --> 01:26:06,239
again for your time, Mike,
and have a great night, sir.

799
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:44,000
Thank you, brother. Thanks,
we'll see you. Good night. Good night m