1 00:00:17,519 --> 00:00:21,719 We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinsky, 2 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,800 culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:28,839 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on exit FDR lst T, 4 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:32,479 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcasts, and of course to 5 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,960 the premium version of the Federalist dot com as well. Today I'm joined by 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,280 a filmmaker and anti communist, Robbie Starbuck, who's behind the new movie The 7 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:45,679 War on Children. You can watch the trailer. You can watch the movie 8 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:49,799 at the War on Children dot Com. Robbie, thank you so much for 9 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:53,920 coming on the program. Absolutely thanks for having me. I'm excited to be 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,600 here. Right before we started recording, I watched the trailer again just to 11 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:03,079 kind of pump myself up, because you distill so much of what needs to 12 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:06,719 be said, actually just in the trailer itself, So people should go watch 13 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,599 the full movie because it's even the trailers chalk full of information, just juxtaposing 14 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:18,000 the media coverage with testimonies from people who've been caught up in the horrible web 15 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:21,239 of TikTok. Robbie, can you start by just getting us some background on 16 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,159 the film The War on Children absolutely, you know, I think for us, 17 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:29,560 this started a long time ago. My wife and I were really on 18 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:33,000 the forefront of this, almost a decade ago. Our oldest daughter's fifteen, 19 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,159 and when she started going to school, she went to a private school that 20 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:41,840 had a lot of you know, the sort of like elite mindset at it. 21 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,840 You know, I was in Hollywood directing some of the Oscar winning actors, 22 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:47,400 actresses, some of the biggest music stars, and so there were a 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,079 lot of celebrity kids at this school and things like that, and it really 24 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,439 was like a testing ground for all the stuff we're seeing mainstream push today. 25 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:00,439 And I recognized immediately that there was something wrong with this ideology and that it 26 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 was broken in all these ideas that were trying to sell to parents, is 27 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,719 like social emotional learning and tolerance and things like that. They were words that 28 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,879 were meant to make you feel good and make you feel like you were virtuous. 29 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,439 But at the end of the day, where actually this toxic web of 30 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,000 lies that was meant to usher in a new form of communism. And so, 31 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,319 you know, my family, coming from Cuba, I immediately, like 32 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,919 Egle, eyed on this and I knew I had to do something, so 33 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,919 I thought back at the local level with the school and things like that. 34 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:30,479 But eventually, you know, my wife's from the South, we moved to 35 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:35,919 Tennessee and we've carried this fight on to try to stop the exploitation of children 36 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,759 and stop this ideology. And one thing we recognized is that, like you 37 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:46,000 know, we see on a regular basis, story after story, but there's 38 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:50,240 this thing that goes on in the human psyche where you know, you see 39 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,479 one story and you go, that's awful, and maybe you share it, 40 00:02:53,039 --> 00:03:00,960 but you lose the wider pictures sometimes. And one piece of feedback I've consistently 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,439 gotten back since this film came out as people saying, wow, seeing this 42 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,800 all in one place, seeing all the dots connected, all the people involved, 43 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,319 and all of the different industries involved, and how they all tie into 44 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,759 each other. And you know, this goes as deep as the trafficking element. 45 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,680 I don't know if you saw that part of the film where you know, 46 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:24,599 we've got trafficking survivors who you know, she was trafficked over a thousand 47 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,120 times online as a child, and you know, it's just the roots of 48 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,560 this goes so far, and you have to connect it all together from the 49 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,360 indoctrination in schools, ESG policy, CRTDI, you know, all these different 50 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,479 elements of wokeness, the gender ideology and the transiing of children everything. When 51 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:47,919 when you really put the picture together and how connects to big farm of government 52 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,759 nonprofits, I think that people start to get a sense that, oh, 53 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,759 this is not just some crazy, whacked out far left activist. This is 54 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:01,759 a war and there is about and the far left and the elitists behind it, 55 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,439 they know what they're doing. They're subverting parental rights, there's subverting parents 56 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:11,199 in religion on purpose because they want to be in the role that God and 57 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,639 parents are in in a child's life traditionally throughout human history, and so this 58 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:17,480 is the avenue to do that. And that's that's sort of the reason why 59 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,240 we made the film was to give people that one place you could go, 60 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,120 like, you've got that friend or family in your life who thinks that none 61 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,279 of this is happening. There's no porn in schools, you know, there's 62 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,800 no sexually explicit drag shows happening. These are just kookie, you know, 63 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,920 right wing crazy people who you know, narrow in on this one thing you 64 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,199 show them this film which you can gift to them. Now where we created 65 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,519 the gifting option on purpose so that people could send this to those people. 66 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,000 They cannot deny the reality of what's going on once they see this film. 67 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,439 And I think that's a very, very powerful, maybe the most powerful part 68 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:55,920 of this film is the ability for people to gift it and share it with 69 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,199 people at the War on Children dot Com so that you can wake up those 70 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,399 people who are think still. And I want to zoom in on your Cuban 71 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:09,160 background, because you also interview a lot of non white community leaders in the 72 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:16,720 film, or people whose children got tangled up in these tragic outcomes and platforms. 73 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:24,199 You know, it seems like a lot of the elite media wants and 74 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,959 a lot of you know, really highly educated white people in the elite media 75 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,199 don't really want to talk about what's happening here. But Robbie, again, 76 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:40,800 you mentioned how this resonates as somebody who came from who's fled a dark version 77 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:46,600 of communism that has echoes in what we see being spread from platforms like TikTok, 78 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:51,879 And you talk to a lot of again community leaders, pastors, you 79 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,360 know, people whose whose families came here fairly recently, probably with higher levels 80 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,120 of religiosity than your average corporate media reporter. What did you find as you 81 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,120 were talking to people in those different cross sections of the country, as they 82 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,360 encountered this up close and personal, not just through the media lens, but 83 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:15,160 in their own lives with their own children. Yeah, you know, I 84 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,240 hate to even call these elitist leftists highly educated, because there's some of these 85 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,360 stupidest people that you have ever come across. And that's somebody who's had to 86 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,079 direct these people and tell them what to do on a regular basis, Like 87 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,759 these are really, really impressively stupid people that are very good at remembering lines, 88 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:38,839 very good at delivering what they're told to say. And you know, 89 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,600 college is effectively just a center for learning how to do that. How do 90 00:06:43,639 --> 00:06:46,560 you repeat the lines from clap like seal? And it's sad that we've gotten 91 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,959 to that place because some of the most educated, incredibly wise, insightful individuals 92 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,560 I know are people that you know, I think that elitist world would call 93 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,519 ordinary, and there's nothing ordinary about them. Take electricians, you know, 94 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,879 electricians take a lightning bolt, you know, send it through a copper wire 95 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,519 into your house so you can flip a switch and a light turns on. 96 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:11,079 That's incredible. Honestly, that's like, that's nuts. It sounds crazy. 97 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:15,120 If you told somebody that and you didn't know for a fact that that actually 98 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,439 exists, you would say that sounds like some sort of witchcraft, you know, 99 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:21,600 like, that's that's crazy. Those are impressive people to me, these 100 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,560 people that sit around at Harvard and come up with series about white fragility and 101 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,800 stuff like, There's nothing highly educated or impressive about them. I'd like to 102 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,319 see them try to survive in the woods or try to turn a light bulb 103 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,199 on by themselves, you know. But what we found on that front where 104 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:42,879 you're talking about when it comes to like minorities, is that you know, 105 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:47,480 it's just the story's grossly, grossly mistold by the media, and the truth 106 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:53,040 is, you know, their children are falling prey to this ideology just like 107 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:58,759 white children are. And really there's there's a distinction without a difference in many 108 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:01,480 ways. You know, like maybe I think when you look at the public 109 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,279 school system today, you know, I'd say there is racism, but it's 110 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:09,720 principally against white children. But at the same time, you know, the 111 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,240 flip side of that coin, just as toxic as that you're teaching another group 112 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:18,000 of people, you know, all the other minority groups that they are themselves 113 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,040 oppressed, you know, and that these white people are oppressors. And you're 114 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:26,720 doing that based on immutable characteristics from children who you know, really these are 115 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:28,680 just innocent God's children, you know, like they don't they don't have any 116 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,320 concept of all this stuff until adults introduced it to them. And the fact 117 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:39,360 that we're poisoning their beautiful little minds with all of these ideas about hate and 118 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,519 racism and things like that. You know, if you take these kids and 119 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,000 you just put them together to play, you see sort of the beautiful spirit 120 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,440 of humanity as it's intended to be. But you know, we saw close 121 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:54,039 and personal with these parents that their values were intrinsically conservative in almost every case, 122 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,879 and even the ones who were not politically what I would call conservative, 123 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,080 they were at least conservative in the sense that, hey, parents rights matter, 124 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:05,799 and parents should have a say at the end of the day, and 125 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,799 what happens with their children, not the state. The states should not be 126 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,279 able to overrule the parent, you know, unless we're talking about some crazy 127 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,919 case, like you know, a parent trying to give their kid heroin or 128 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,000 something, which, by the way, that sounds crazy to everybody, right, 129 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,679 but so did mutilating your child's genitals only ten years ago, and now 130 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,000 people have accepted that. So you know, you can't say, even with 131 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:30,519 any sense of reason, that ten years from now, some political group won't 132 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:33,159 be trying to make it totally okay to give your kid heroin, you know, 133 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,600 I mean, like it sounds just as crazy as mutilating your kids. 134 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Actually, that's interesting because I find people that have come from communist countries backgrounds 135 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:46,000 like that actually have their eyes open to that in a way that you know, 136 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,399 those of us who don't have recent immigrants in our family don't. It 137 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,440 sounds again, those things sound more and more ridiculous to or sound ridiculous to 138 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,000 people, and then become more and more obvious that this is not ridiculous. 139 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,720 It's entirely within the realm of the possible. But I think going through or 140 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,159 seeing what happened really quickly in places like Cuba or the former Soviet Block States, 141 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,639 people who have first end experience with that seem to me to understand that 142 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,879 this is urgent in ways that other people might not take things seriously quite yet 143 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,320 absolutely. You know, let me ask you a question. Would sound crazy 144 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:33,279 if I told you that public schools in America tomorrow, they would blindfold all 145 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,879 the kids. They'd put a bowl in front of them, and they'd tell 146 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:37,679 them pray to God for ice cream. And then they take the blindfold off. 147 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,879 The bowl would have no ice cream in it, and they'd put it 148 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,720 back on and they would say, all right, you're blindfolded again. I 149 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,360 want you to pray to the Democratic Party and Joe Biden for ice cream. 150 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,480 And secretly some activists go in there and they stick ice cream in the bowls, 151 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:54,879 and then they remove the blindfolds and the kids see, oh my gosh, 152 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:58,440 we got the ice cream. That sounds crazy to you, Yes, 153 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:03,559 of course they did it in Cuba. So this this is That's why. 154 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:07,799 You know. That's to say, like people whose families come from these countries, 155 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,399 they're thinking ahead in terms of what the next steps are because our families 156 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,759 already experienced it, and what sounded crazy to our families became reality very quickly. 157 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,799 And I think one of the things that folks you know, really take 158 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,279 for granted is how quickly it can happen. You know, you can be 159 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,360 in this next stage where you usher in modern communism literally in the blink of 160 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:35,519 an eye. I mean, it can happen so fast it's unbelievable. And 161 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,039 when you have such a large segment of the populace to sleep to this probability, 162 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:41,679 I would call it. I'd call it probable. At this point. 163 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:45,960 You know, we're in this fight to stop it. But the reality is 164 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:50,480 we're talking about a party that is in control of every cultural institution, every 165 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,039 government institution, and we've got a party on our side. It seems to 166 00:11:56,039 --> 00:12:00,480 be on a national level fighting for something. You know, good example last 167 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,360 night, James Langford, Senator, he's fighting for us to fix illegal immigration 168 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,519 by just making sure there's an orderly line of them, five thousand of them 169 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,480 a day. They just need to be in a single file, you know, 170 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:18,320 I guess going through the ropes or something. And it sounds funny, 171 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,759 but it's not only embarrassing, it's frightening because the reality is we have leaders 172 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:26,519 on our side who do not understand what time it is in America. They 173 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:30,600 are not prepared to do what's necessary. Our founders would be deeply ashamed of 174 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:35,159 them and We need to have leaders right now, like this time in history 175 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,200 is calling for leaders who are going to ask themselves every day, what would 176 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,879 our founders do? Because our founders were exceptionally brave, courageous men. They 177 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:46,639 have their faults, you know, everybody does, but you cannot say that 178 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,480 they were not incredibly courageous and brave. And we need those men and women 179 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,240 right now to stand up in government, to stand up in every part of 180 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:58,320 society. You know, like if you're a CEO of a company and you've 181 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,320 got plenty of money at this point in your life, it is time to 182 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,879 put it all on the line. That's why I was fine with burning down 183 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:07,720 my career in Hollywood. You know. I love when some people, you 184 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,799 know, when this phone thing out, they're like, oh, you're grifting 185 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:13,559 off the right. I have lost so much money coming out as a conservative. 186 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,559 It's unbelievable. It's sickening. But I'm perfectly happy with it because I 187 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,039 know at the end of the day, when I'm on my deathbed, I'm 188 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,639 able to look my kids in the eye and I'm able to tell them I 189 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:26,960 did everything I could to stop this from happening, and maybe we'll stop it. 190 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:31,200 And if we do, it'll be so worth it. But even if 191 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,200 we don't, I'll be able to die with a clear conscience that I did 192 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:39,919 everything I could within my power to stop this really poisonous ideology from destroying our 193 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,639 country and our world. I'm going to play devil's advocate for a second, 194 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,240 because I think you'll handle this very deftly, Robbie. Which is, some 195 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:52,720 people on the left, when they hear the idea that TikTok or social media 196 00:13:52,759 --> 00:14:00,200 platforms that they see as the kind of pinnacle of capitalism are peddling communism, 197 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:03,759 they might say, well, this is you know, this is facially absurd. 198 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,919 There's nothing communist about Silicon Valley. There's nothing, you know, communist 199 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,679 about equity, which again, I know, we know that's ridiculous, But 200 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,039 they would say, this is this is purely a this is social civil rights, 201 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,120 et cetera, et cetera. There's nothing sort of communist about this. 202 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,720 How would you respond? And especially, I think what you were touching on 203 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:28,039 earlier gets to class. You know a lot of people who are victimized by 204 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,879 this, who don't have time to deal with political correctness. They don't have 205 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,639 a voice in the corporate media. The quote unquote highly educated corporate media where 206 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:39,720 people are making tons of money living in these deep blue enclaves. They don't 207 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:43,519 give voice to any of the people who dissent from the party line because those 208 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:48,840 people are necessarily branded as bigots. But communists might say, real, you 209 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,679 know, leftists might say, there's nothing here that's legitimate communism. This is 210 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,120 just right wing fear mongering. Can you address that, Robbie. Yeah, 211 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,840 it's gonna be a long a but it's going to be a good one hopefully. 212 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,399 So let's think about it from this vantage point. First, why would 213 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,000 you not be able to usher in communism under the name communism in America? 214 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:11,440 Just forthright, we are communists, this is what we want. And the 215 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,080 reason is we have too many older people in the boomer generation beyond who have 216 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,159 that negative association of communism. You look at the young group eighteen to like 217 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,759 twenty five, and unfortunately they don't have that same feeling about communism. But 218 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,240 when you look up these older ages, the numbers are just too bad. 219 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:31,039 They could never win an election saying we are outright communists. So what do 220 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,440 they do well? Communists are trained to be subversive. I mean, look 221 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,039 at like the black Lives Matter movement, where the founders admit that they were 222 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,559 trained Marxists. Okay, so you've got to put yourself in this mindset. 223 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,320 First. You're subversive, you want to win it all costs. You're willing 224 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,960 to lie chet steel to do it right. So, what are one of 225 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:54,960 the core ideals that would be critical to ushering in a new form of communism. 226 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,279 It's some form of state control of the means of production right end up 227 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:04,320 communication. So let's look at social media. What would be the most wonderful 228 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,919 way for a tyrant to usher in communism? It would be without anybody noticing. 229 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,320 And that's where we are right now, because they essentially own these social 230 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,679 media companies with the exception of X, and they're able to do as they 231 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,039 wish. Why do I say that because I speak from experience as somebody who 232 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,480 was deeply affected by the government's actions. I was put on a list essentially 233 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:32,799 a censorship list by the US government where DHS was outsourcing through this group called 234 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:37,039 the Election Integrity Project, which is just like another one of these dystopian names. 235 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,399 Right, integrity is in the name. But what they actually did They 236 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,240 acted as a proxy. Yes, they acted as a proxy for the US 237 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,080 government to censor people, and so I was deeply involved in that. I 238 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,440 was on their list of the top twenty what they called the top twenty misinformation 239 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,480 spreaders in the United States are in the world actually, And so what's funny 240 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,000 about that, though, is that we ended up dating access through elon muh 241 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,359 Twitter to all of the tickets that we're sent in by the EIP. We 242 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:10,160 went through every single one and any any reporter can look at these. Not 243 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,920 one, not one ticket they put through is even halfway false, let alone 244 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,599 verifiably false. And they put me on a list along with Stanford, of 245 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,119 the top twenty misinformation spreaders in the world. Okay, that in itself is 246 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,799 just ludicrous. So this is you know, there's there's a case the Supreme 247 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:32,200 Court right now Missouri is running their ags running that is very important. And 248 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,480 I think we'll see an anarchist brief soon that you know, I'll be a 249 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,440 part of, because you know, we've got to fight back against this machine 250 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:44,240 because essentially what it is is government control of the means of production without needing 251 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:48,319 to actually go and seize it. Because if you're able to use it for 252 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,880 all of your purposes, you're able to use it to boost your election prospects, 253 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,359 boost your fundraising, censor your opponents, able to censor any dissenters, 254 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,519 and you're able to build these ideological echo chambers where you say, hey, 255 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,640 we want to target let's say TikTok's case, we want to target young people 256 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,000 with this idea that their identity is damaged, it is wrong, it is 257 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:11,200 broken in some way. There is something that is just wrong with them, 258 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,039 and we need them questioning that, We need them looking for sources of validity 259 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:19,839 within different communities where they'll be accepted in a family type setting. And all 260 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,039 of this leads back to the idea that the state is your daddy and mommy 261 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:26,680 and it'll take care of you when your parents don't, and your parents are 262 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,640 not going to treat you the way you deserve to be treated. And so 263 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,960 you know, when you look at it from that advantage point, if you're 264 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,400 somebody on the left and you are not a communist, but you're pushing back 265 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,440 on this because you think that big tech is capitalism, it's inherently not okay. 266 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,720 And now let's move on to something like Amazon. Capitalism is not the 267 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,000 gross sheeting of a system, so that you can win, and that's what 268 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:52,720 Amazon did, and I think that they deserve to be absolutely broken because of 269 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,599 it. They lost money on purpose for an extended period of time to build 270 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,400 up a market share that was just so massive nobody could compete with it and 271 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:04,200 drove small businesses into the ground. And that was their plan to not pay 272 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,799 taxes, lose money for an extremely long period of time. And then once 273 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,920 you ms the market share that is undefeatable, you boost up the prices, 274 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,119 You start ranking in profits that are just unbelievable. And that's where we're at 275 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,039 now. So this goes on and on. And when you look at the 276 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:22,559 government tentacles in any one of these companies, you've got so many former intelligence 277 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,400 assets inside these companies you really need to start to wonder are they former intelligence 278 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,920 assets or are they doing their job for the US government by being in those 279 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,960 places. I agree with just about everything you said there, rob Yeah. 280 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:45,160 The documentary features an interview with Senator Rand Paul and I think this is really 281 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,680 interesting for a number of reasons. But one of them I want to ask 282 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,880 about, Robbie, is that we see often trojan horse legislation be introduced by 283 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,160 you know, big government Republicans, big government Democrats to address issue use and 284 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,480 to exploit issues that seriously need to be addressed, and TikTok is one of 285 00:20:04,519 --> 00:20:11,039 them. We saw that horrific power grab bill addressed that would give vast sweeping 286 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:15,039 powers to the federal government in order to address TikTok. And Senator Paul has 287 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,799 been, you know, for the last decade plus, a very forward thinking 288 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,880 voice on this, whose comments going back more than a decade have aged extremely 289 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,880 well as we've moved further and further into this period of monopoly and duopoly in 290 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,279 the tech sector. So, Robbie, what can be done or what, 291 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:40,160 let's say, maybe even what optimism do you have that we will be able 292 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,359 to deal with these platforms on a federal level. And you know, you 293 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,680 mentioned the Missouri case and the court system. That's an important element of this 294 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:51,119 too, and maybe you have thoughts on that as well. But it seems 295 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:56,039 to me that this is all just going to be exploited more and more by 296 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,160 you know, some members of the political establishment here in Washington, d C. 297 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,960 Who will exploit the fears of parents for their own power grabs. Yeah, 298 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,880 so I'm a realist on this in terms of what could be done that's 299 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,240 productive, and I think that, you know, I've thought long and hard 300 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,039 about this whole thing. Do I think we're going to get, you know, 301 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:19,680 the holy grail of everything we want to know because there's way too many 302 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,519 competing interests. I mean, look at even on our own side. You 303 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:26,680 know, there's some senators I even like, but you know, let's say 304 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:30,960 a large number of Republican senators who are taking money from big tech while then 305 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,119 going in to the hearing rooms and House members as well. They go into 306 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,799 these hearings with big tech and they do their little sassy hit where they say 307 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:42,599 something spicy and then they send out a fundraising email. And that's the extent 308 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,400 of the totality of their interest in engaging the big tech issue because they know 309 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,759 at the end of the day that these checks are coming in for big tech 310 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:53,160 companies and their packs and their proxies, and they want that to keep going. 311 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,440 And the reality is, I think the one thing that is is possible 312 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,559 with this be productive, because there's plenty of things that are possible that would 313 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:07,759 be absolutely horrible, but in terms of productive, would be for senators and 314 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:14,799 House members that are aligned ideologically to propose a set of rules and regulations that 315 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,519 are based around children and a very anti regulatory state, so it's very rare 316 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,519 you will see me say that, you know, some new regulation would be 317 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,880 a good thing, but when you examine this war on our kids, you 318 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,680 know, you've really got to start to think about things like, you know, 319 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:36,000 we regulate the age a child can you know, smoke cigarettes, by 320 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,599 alcohol, things like that, and social media is having such a horrific effect 321 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,680 on their mental health and their health overall that I think you can make a 322 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,279 really valid argument that it should be regulated in the same sense. Because here's 323 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,359 the thing. If you leave this up to the societal reality that we live 324 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,960 in, the majority of parents are not going to take social media away from 325 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,799 their kids because they don't want to deal with the fallout of that, and 326 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,799 they don't want to deal with the emotional aspect of that and what it would 327 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:04,440 take to do all that. However, if the government is responsible and it's 328 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,880 their fault that the social media companies can't service TikTok to a twelve year old, 329 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,240 then you know it's a lot easier for them to go, oh, 330 00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:17,720 well, we wish we could, but you know we can't because the government 331 00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:22,599 said, no, I think that in reality, there has to be some 332 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,599 sort of regulation to that regard, or at the very least to really start 333 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:34,359 to police the sexual exploitation and child pornography that's happening on these websites, because 334 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:41,119 when you see the numbers, I mean, it is it is the most 335 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:48,000 terrific thing you can imagine. I mean, honestly, it's beyond comprehension that 336 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:52,279 if you go on one of these major social media websites, you know that 337 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,079 right now, at any given time, there are thousands of pieces of child 338 00:23:56,079 --> 00:24:02,960 pornography unique being shared right the second millions and millions and millions incalculable on a 339 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:07,279 year over year basis, And you get these reports that get sent into the 340 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,960 National Center for Michigning Exploited Children. Very few are solved, very few of 341 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:18,279 these victims are helped. And the reality is, without demand, the pipeline 342 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:25,799 of production of this type of horrific material greatly decreases. And I think that 343 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:27,119 that's the start. But also here in the state of Tennessee, you know 344 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,160 there's things that are not exactly like the linear set of thinking of oh, 345 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,519 this is about social media, but this is about an overall broadening of sort 346 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:38,519 of like as a society, how we safeguard children. You know, in 347 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:44,039 Tennessee, I've been proposing for about two years that we pass a law that 348 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:48,599 will be the death penalty for child rate this and at first everybody said they 349 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,880 that's not going to happen. There's Supreme Court decision that has precedent back in 350 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,240 the day, while precedents were made to be challenged when they're bad precedent. 351 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:59,359 And now we're at the point where my friend William Lambert, who's in the 352 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,880 War on Children documentary, proposed to the bill that I've been pushing that will 353 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,680 give the death penalty option to judges here in Tennessee for sentencing child rapists. 354 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:15,519 I think the more we get into a mindset of making all of these crimes, 355 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:21,279 all the exploitation of kids, such a horrific set of consequences if you 356 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,960 engage in it, that it becomes unthinkable that only an absolute lunatic who wants 357 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,240 to die would engage in this behavior. And the more we normalize that throughout 358 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:36,000 a society, the more we protect our kids, protect their innocence. Honestly, 359 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:40,720 I think the more our ancestors look down and favor on us and our 360 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:44,319 God as well. I think, you know, it's it really should be 361 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,240 our top priority, especially parents and grandparents. I mean, I don't think 362 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,519 there's anything more important. And again, for the full story, people can 363 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:52,960 check out the War on Children at the War on Children dot com. But 364 00:25:53,039 --> 00:26:00,319 Robie, you mentioned trafficking, You mentioned the absolute proliferation of pornager fee. 365 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:06,759 There are, for example, parents whose children have really easily purchased drugs on 366 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:11,599 things like Snapchat and the movie is You've focused on TikTok for a lot of 367 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,519 important reasons. Can you talk to us, Robbie, about how TikTok has 368 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:21,240 facilitated some of these tragedies in particular? And you know, again, some 369 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:25,200 of our listeners might not be on TikTok. Hopefully many are not on TikTok 370 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,680 and might not have kids who are dealing with us, you know, left 371 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:36,079 and right every time they leave the house. How shocking is the content that 372 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,400 people can sort of find haplessly easily on TikTok. I can't even put it 373 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:48,759 into words. It's beyond belief. It's like it's much worse than I thought 374 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:56,039 when we started investigating it. It's just some of the most awful stuff you 375 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:00,200 can ever imagine. And I think that if we can continue to behave the 376 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,000 way we have about it, it's only going to get worse. And I 377 00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,519 think your average parent doesn't understand how bad it is and what their kids are 378 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,960 being exposed to. I mean, the average age a child's exposed to hardcore 379 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,440 porn is like eleven years old now, and it's going down, you know, 380 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,640 It's getting lower and lower year over year. And most of the time 381 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,240 this is happening in cases where these kids are not trying to find it. 382 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,680 It just pops up. It happens on social media. I think almost every 383 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,680 adult has had porn pop up on their social media feed at some point. 384 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,079 So imagine a kid doing it, you know, and that being their first 385 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:40,640 exposure to the idea of sex, you know. I think if you look 386 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:44,400 down the road at what the effects of that are going to be long term, 387 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,519 it's going to be extremely, extremely damaging in ways that we can't even 388 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:56,240 conceive of right now. I wish I could give a whole litany of potential 389 00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,079 side effects and outcomes, but I think some of them are so bad none 390 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,119 of us could even take them seriously at this point. But if you looked 391 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:10,319 out into the future and you saw these possible roads we go down, people 392 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,680 would double and triple their efforts to make a difference right now and to stop 393 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,400 this. As you said about interviewing people who've been directly affected by this for 394 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:26,559 the documentary, are there any stories that really you think, are you found 395 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:33,759 to be especially shocking or really put everything into perspective, especially well that people 396 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,400 can look forward to seeing in the Warren Children. Yeah, I don't know 397 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,000 i'd used the word looking forward, but incredibly impactful. There's a lot of 398 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:45,440 learning stuff. I mean, I heard from quite a few people that are 399 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,759 like, they had a notepad out and they're taking notes on a bunch of 400 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:49,799 stuff they want to share with friends. But so I think that's really great 401 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,440 for people to know that there's a lot of stuff that you probably don't know 402 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,680 that's included in this. And some of it includes, you know, sort 403 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,440 of the training on psychological aspect as a filmmaker that has worked with some of 404 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,240 these huge stars in terms of how you affect society. I think that that's 405 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,400 something that a lot of people had no clue existed, and you know sort 406 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,319 of what it looks like and once you hear it once you know it, 407 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,839 you go, oh my gosh, this is so clear, this is so 408 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,440 obvious. It was sitting there this whole time and I had no clue this 409 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,000 is how they do things. But I would say an interview that just like 410 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:29,839 it broke my heart more than anything, and it just it really lays bare 411 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,039 the brutality of the state and just how disgusting and evil they can be. 412 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:40,880 Is There's an interview we did with this mom. Her daughter's name is Jaylee, 413 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:48,319 and Jaylee was just a young girl beginning of high school going through some 414 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,400 mental health stuff. You know, I mean a lot of young girls that 415 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,519 age, they're having body image issues, like depression, things along those lines, 416 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,200 and her mom wanted to get her help. You know. It took 417 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,920 her to a doctor, talked to the school principle. While the approach they 418 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,559 all took was to question her identity, to gear her into the idea that 419 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:14,319 she was born in the wrong body, might be a male, secretly put 420 00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:18,200 her into an LGBTQ club at high school and did not tell the mom, 421 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,480 did not disclose any of this to mom, did not disclose that she was 422 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,119 starting to transition at school to the mom. And you know, later on 423 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,440 The mom finds out because the other sister of this child tells her what's going 424 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,200 on. The mom says, no, you're you were not a boy. 425 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,720 You were a girl. You've always been a girl, and you know, 426 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:44,759 we need to get you help for the underlying issue here, and that's that. 427 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:45,759 I'm going to help you. I'm going to love you through this. 428 00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:52,640 But you know you are a female, you always have been. And so 429 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,920 she tries to begin that process of getting her help, and instead she's reported 430 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:03,359 to CPS by a doctor. DPS in the state of California takes jay Lee 431 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:11,400 from her mother, and CPS then assists her in transitioning into a mail and 432 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:18,079 amidst that transition, Jayleie calls her mom one day and expresses that she made 433 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:23,519 a big mistake. She wants to de transition. He's afraid because all of 434 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:30,000 her new friend groups and the people you know involved on the state level were 435 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,559 going to be really upset at her and afraid of the fallout of that. 436 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:40,440 The next day, her mom gets a phone call that Jaylee threw herself in 437 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:48,240 front of a train and committed suicide, and that story Live in Person with 438 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:52,440 a mom's Grief is one of the hardest conversations I've ever had to have. 439 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:59,559 And you know, as a parent who has a daughter around that age, 440 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,160 it just it's unthinkable, you know, And it's sort of it's similar to 441 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,839 a young girl we talked to in the documentary. Her name's Laylah Jane, 442 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:15,960 who was one of those child victims of medical exploitation and sexual exploitation at the 443 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,200 hands of social media school and this whole apparatus that convinced her that she was 444 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,640 not actually a girl, she was a boy. And thank god, she's 445 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,440 figured it out at a younger age than a lot of people do, and 446 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,599 she's fixing all of it, and she's detransitioning and she realizes that this was 447 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:36,240 a mental health issue. But that interview as well was just really tough because 448 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,680 they operated on her before she was even fifteen, the age of my daughter. 449 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,359 And so when I look at my daughter who was fifteen, and I 450 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:50,119 think about the medical system or the government or all these entities getting together and 451 00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:54,680 working to do hurt and mutilate a child like this, like it's just pure 452 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,279 evil. I mean, it's honestly, I feel like I'm in hell when 453 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,680 I'm thinking about it, because I'm like, how much worse could hell be 454 00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:09,039 than doing this to kids, you know, and it just it bottles the 455 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:14,799 mind. But yeah, those stick out to me. I mean, I 456 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:20,880 can understand why it's just these stories and this is you know, I think 457 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,279 a good place to start wrapping up Robbie, because it's so that's so powerful. 458 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,240 These stories really get no play in the corporate media. These parents have 459 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:39,200 no voice because the corporate media either believes that objections raised to these policies stem 460 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,400 from bigotry and they are fully on board with the DEI ideology and agenda, 461 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:52,960 or they're terrified of the people who do adhere to the Dei ideology and agenda, 462 00:33:53,319 --> 00:34:00,200 who do categorize all dissent necessarily as bigotry or violence. And in the 463 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,759 film, there's a very stark contrast between, for example, the media coverage 464 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:09,920 of pornographic books like Gender Queer and the books themselves. As you were compiling 465 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:16,280 the documentary looking through media clips, can you speak to what that taught? 466 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,559 Not that you needed to learn this or be taught this, but I imagine 467 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:27,760 it drove home even harder. How devious and incompetent in some cases, but 468 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,920 mostly just evil. A lot of the media has been when it comes to 469 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:35,000 shedding light on this and covering it accurately so that parents have the right information 470 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,320 for their kids. Oh my gosh, these people are devious, evil and 471 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:45,400 narcissistic monsters, the likes of which I want nowhere near a child, not 472 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,039 even of my worst enemy. Okay, I mean going through media eclipse is 473 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:53,039 one of the most disgusting parts of making it documentary because these people lie with 474 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:58,800 such ease it's unfathomable to me. I mean, there's no integrity, no 475 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,920 honor, no anything except for the need for narcissistic adauation for people to sit 476 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,039 there and think that there's something important and at the end of the day. 477 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,599 You know what, Maybe I'm morbid in this sense, but I think about 478 00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:13,800 what am I going to think of myself on my deathbed. I think I 479 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,599 mentioned it or earlier, you know. I want to know how my kids 480 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:21,239 will see me when I die, and those people are going to have some 481 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,760 real nasty stuff to have to think about on that day. And I try 482 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,599 to live my life in a way where I'm not going to have those feelings 483 00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:35,480 and thoughts on my last day. I want I want that to be a 484 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,880 clear conscience for me. And let me ask you a question. You know, 485 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,840 you talk about the media. How often does the media ignore a film 486 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,719 that gets millions of us on its trailer in forty eight hours? And you 487 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:52,000 know, how often do the big tech companies all refuse money from a film's 488 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,480 advertisements? How often does that happen? Right? No, I mean that's 489 00:35:55,519 --> 00:36:00,559 a good point to the serve Devil's advocate conversation we were having earlier about whether 490 00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:07,079 these companies are truly capitalist. No, they're they're ideologues, they're capitalists exactly. 491 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:15,480 We our ads were banned on Facebook, on YouTube, on TikTok, 492 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,960 you know, to reach the widest audience possible, we said, let's do 493 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:23,800 ads everywhere they banned our ads, and the media will not touch this film 494 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,199 with the ten foot pole. You know, they'll touch films generally where they 495 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:34,280 feel like. Okay. The other side is is you know, elevating this. 496 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719 But there's things we can poke holes in. I think the most powerful 497 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:44,599 thing about the War on children we can't poke holes in it. We were 498 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,239 very careful to be really really backspased. You know, I think there's a 499 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,400 part of it. We talk about chemicals and food and things like that, 500 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,480 and we talk about atrozine, and you know, to give like sort of 501 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,119 a good example of this. You know, if you hear Alex Jones and 502 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,280 say they're turning the frogs gay, the left is going to jump all over 503 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,599 that and be like they're crazy. But in the War on Children, when 504 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:12,920 we actually show you the science of how atrozines being used as a pesticide, 505 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,360 you know, being sprayed, it's in foods, it's in water, it's 506 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,679 in runoffs, so it ends up in half water. Kids drink it on 507 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:21,199 a regular basis. And then we show you the scientific studies from UC Berkeley, 508 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:27,360 hardly a conservative institution, where Tyrone Hayes there did a study a professor 509 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,440 there and showed that when they introduced atressine to frogs, seventy five percent of 510 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,800 them turned gay and over ten percent of them it was either ten or twenty. 511 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,159 I'm going to go with the low ends, and nobody fact checks me 512 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:44,119 here, We'll say ten percent of them actually started to produce eggs. Okay. 513 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,920 And this is something we're introducing the children and have been giving the kids 514 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,199 for quite a while now in their food and water. And the only study 515 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:58,079 that seems to have been done seriously on humans was to adult males and showed 516 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:02,079 that it affected their seamen quality, and that was sort of a narrow focus 517 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:06,519 that they looked into. And then in rodents showed cancer risk and things along 518 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:07,880 those lines. But we just give it the kids willing illy on a regular 519 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,519 basis and are not even studying the effects of it. So that goes into 520 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,199 a litany of sort of issues from why is the media not questioning these things? 521 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,880 Why are we as parents allowing this to happen? And I think that 522 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,920 the War on Children opens up a lot of questions but also opens up a 523 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,079 world of answers and a pass forward that you know, if we choose it, 524 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,280 we can change things. Robbie Starbuck is the filmmaker behind The War on 525 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,880 Children. You can again go to the War on Children dot com to watch 526 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,119 the trailer, to watch the film, to gift the film. Robbie, 527 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:45,840 thank you for stopping by Federalist Radio Hour. Thank you appreciate it. Of 528 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,079 course you've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm men 529 00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,320 Lekashinski, culture editor here at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. 530 00:38:52,760 --> 00:39:00,480 Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray, the 531 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,280 poor too lo