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Hey, everybody, welcome to Rose
Pricks. So it's Thursday. It's a

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vander Pump Rules time. Time to
rehash vander Pump Rules. But we're doing

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something a little different. Cecily and
I have a special guest. Her name

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is Meredith Lynch. She's like a
pop culture personnel who's has a huge TikTok

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following two hundred and twenty seven thousand
followers on TikTok. That's crazy. And

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you must have started out like what
want you start out with one? Right?

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You have one TikTok follow and you're
like, yeah, space Bar,

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space Bar, who has no profile
pictures. Space Bar has been with me

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since like the very beginning, and
like, I feel like this a really

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weird pair of social relationship with them. I don't know their gender, but

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they're like, yeah, I've liked
you since, Like you put up a

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video that was just like you talking
about your dad. I'm like, thank

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you, but yes, Like I
you know, I started doing makeup videos

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and then I was like, wait, what the fuck am I doing?

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The only thing I care about is
pop culture. So I started doing pop

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culture videos and it's it's a lot
of fun. And you had a one

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video that was about Bethany Frankel,
and if you guys want to hear the

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story about that, things went sideways
and there's a whole story behind it,

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and we talked about it on Patreon. Meredith was kind enough to stay and

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do some extra stuff with us.
So that's coming out tomorrow and get on

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our Patreon. Here the whole sorted
Bethany Frankel's story. But both of you

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two are real into Vanderpump roles.
I mean yeah, and we were just

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kind of staying in our failed experiment
before. Like I'm Stephanie's not as much.

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I'm the one that kind of forced
her to do Vanderpump Thursdays, and

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like I'm so much like I will
go to shorts and Sandy's in a mustache

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and a like a hat, like
full on incognito to get intel as it

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sounds like you do as well,
like I will get up in it.

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Well, I saw Arianna yesterday.
We'll get to that. But I am

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with you, but I do have
a very important question for you, Cecily

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the banner pomp role. The Swartz
and Sandy's website is very bare bones,

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with the exception of the listing of
the dress code, which is business casual.

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So I'm just curious, Oh my
god, bring your best coals outfit,

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Like, I am so glad you
asked that question because I had completely

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forgotten about that when I talked about
it. So I brought a friend of

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mine and he was like, Okay, I don't know what this is or

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the show or anything, but I
looked on the website and it says business

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casual. We're both googling what that
means. I'm like, what is it

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like a Thursday office? Thursday office? I know flats, I could not.

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I have no idea what that is. I put on like my slinkiest

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I never I don't even think I
sent Stephanie a picture, but like slinkiest

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black dress but I could afford.
So of course it's not like it's not

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like Channel, but everybody wears slinky
black dresses to the office. I thought,

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So that's what I said. I
was trying to look really, really

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cute, and I was like,
kind of wear a black dress because what

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if there's paparazzi. I don't know
what I was thinking. My friend full

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on wore like a shirt, like
a nice shirt, Like he's like,

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do I do a time, like, please, don't do a time,

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We'll look ridiculous. Don't do that. So no, it is not enforced.

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Everyone in there is wearing like you
know how the baseball hats that don't

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have the flat rim they're not like
the curve like when stefan I grew up

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their curved the flat rimmed kind of
ky fed baseball hats, t shirts,

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chains and jeans. That is not
business casual. It is in the place.

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Was nobody was there. You did
not need a reservation. We went

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in and finally after like I had
the lobster rolls and all the like stuff

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that you had to have that they
sand of all talked about all season.

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I asked somebody there. I won't
say who it is to protect them,

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but I asked them, I'm like, give give me the scoop. And

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this was back in April that I
did this. I was like, what's

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going on? Where is everybody?
Tell me? And this person was like,

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okay, first of all, Rachel
Roquel, Rachel is not in rehab.

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There she in Sandival. Are in
as as this person said, in

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a fuck resort. They're just fucking
in a resort. And then the other

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and then this person said everybody else
was so nice. Arianna's a dream,

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Katie's a dream. M Schwartz is
slimy but not as bad as Sandival as

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we know all that, But the
biggest thing was that Sheina, according to

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this person, is the meanest person
they've ever met, like awful, terrible,

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would like not tip, would the
wait staff. Oh, and the

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nicest is Kristen. Was kind of
shocking. But Kristen, come, you

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know, Kristen's still inserting herself in
everything. She just doesn't film anymore.

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That's it. Unless they asked,
well, I think she lives nearby too,

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because I mean that's the thing.
I think that maybe people don't realize

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you both are in La. I'm
in La. It's like it is so

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fucking neighborhood based, right, yeah, Like, yes, I would be

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friend with anybody if they lived like
down the street for me. So of

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course Kristen's like rolling in. She's
like in the Nike slide, She's like,

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I gotta be nice. I live
in Valley Village now, Yes,

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and yes, and she's friends with
Arianna. I mean they are genuine friends,

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like against all odds. So but
it was the sheen of stuff.

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I was told that Gina. You
know the her fake ponytail. You know

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that's all fake that, None of
that's real, None of that hair is

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real. So apparently she'd come in
and she'd like whip the ponytail and like

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hit wait staff with it for some
reason for real. So that was my

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intel so far. But we'll keep
on it. We're all we're all on

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it. We'll go somewhere else next. We got it. Well, obviously

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something about her if it ever opens. So let me ask you to something.

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Yes, I agree. Yes,
are you guys experiencing any Vanderpump burnout?

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Meredith? What do you think?
Honestly? Somebody actually posed this question

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to me today. It's really brought
down to the vibe. No, I

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think I think you would still appreciate
this. Somebody said to me today,

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like, won't they just go away
already? And you know I will die

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on the hill that Like, I
don't really think you need to be like

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that about reality TV. It's not
your taxes. If you don't want to

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do it, you don't have to
do it, right, So I said

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to this person, because God knows, I don't have time to do anything,

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but I have time to respond.
I said, Okay, what's what's

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the alternative here, Kardashians. I
don't want to watch the Kardashians, Okay,

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And then if you're saying I'm sick
of reality TV because I already know

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what the response is going to be, then what is it? Gwyneth Paltrow

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wearing a six hundred dollar polyester dress, trying to convince us that, like

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this is the move, Like I
would rather watch James Kennedy and Tom Sandoval

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scream at each other then watch Gwyneth
Paltrow tell me about her detox. Don't

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want to live in a world where
those are our only choices, Stephanie,

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this is the planet you signed up
for. Yeah, they are, it

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is, And you're so right about
the perfectly said because the Kardashians, it's

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so funny, the fine line vander
Pump all day. Kardashians made me sick.

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And I don't not them themselves,
but just the show, like I

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can't, I can't. I don't
know why. But when you burned out,

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Stephanie, Yes, well I think
I was already. I watched a

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few seasons because Cecily got me into
it, or actually Ronnie Carram from Watch

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What Crappins He got me into it
a while ago, and I watched a

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few seasons of it, and then
Cecily was, I don't remember who was

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it maybe made me watch it.
So I watched a few seasons and then

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I was like, why am I
watching this? I don't care about these

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people, so I stopped. But
then when all of this blew up,

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when scandabal happened, Cecily was like, girl, you have to watch it.

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You have to watch this season.
I'll catch you up. So she

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kindly took me through what's happened over
the years with all the people, all

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the characters, and then I started
watching. But now that we're at the

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reunion and I was in it for
a while, you know, I can't

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stand Tom Sandoval. I was having
feelings. But now that I watched the

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reunion and I was like, okay, we're just kind of saying the same

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thing over and over. I do
I get it. I feel for Arianna.

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Arianna, but like Tom Sandoval is
clearly who he is. Tom Schwartz

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is who he is. All these
people are kind of who they are,

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And I don't know how much more, how much more deserves are we going

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to uncover? I guess I'm wondering, Well, let's get into it.

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Let's get into it, because I
was a little surprised. I guess we

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knew from some of the leaks that
there were going to be these one on

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ones. I guess I thought they
were good. I guess they'll go further

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as each episode goes. I'm not, do you know, Meredith, if

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they're going to keep doing the one
on one thing. Yes, And allegedly

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something came out in the one on
ones. That is the reason why no

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one has been able to resign a
contract for the next season, because you

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know, my ass is like,
I'm all up in the contracts. Well,

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I heard, is it that they're
going to divide the groups? That's

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one of the things that they were
talking about that. Okay, there's a

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couple. There's a couple of rumors. Let's let's talk. One is that

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Rachel's pregnant. That's been a rumor
that's been flo I don't believe it,

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but that's been floating for quite some
time on the you know, yes,

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on the webs and if I thought
it was called the web. And the

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other was that Rockell says she's not
coming back. She's like refusing to come

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back. I don't believe that at
all, Um, I'm not sure.

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And then the others that they're going
to divide the group because Arianna and that

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her team is like not shooting with
Sandoval. So they're going to have two

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different like they did with Housewives New
York, two different versions, and you

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can choose your vander Pump, choose
your choose your own Vanderpump. Can you

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imagine the show that's just Sworts and
Sandoval. It's going to be like the

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two of them cutting up Coles Cash
and at Swarts and Andy. Yes,

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yes, who was going to choose
that? Of course I'll watch both.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'll
watch Who else would be on their side?

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Joe? They'd have Joe, the
weird Joe. Yeah, the guy

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who makes friendship bracelets with Tom Sandoval. Have you guys seen this? Like

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this is like Tom Sandoval instead of
like going to therapy and like figuring out

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where the fuck it went wrong,
he just likes like friendship bracelets all the

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time. He's like Peter would choose
that side too, Yeah, he would.

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He grew up all the hair,
like back to original season Peter and

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the mustache. Yeah, and be
like they wouldn't even care. They'd be

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like, Peter, look we need
the numbers, but no, thanks,

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you don't have to be on here. He's like, the hours work better

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for me. Okay, so these
are some of the rumors, but okay,

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yes, there's gonna be a bombshell. So so Andy, So Andy

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sits down with Sandoval. First we
see this, and I just my first

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reaction and then you guys, I
was just like, well, he just

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is. He's a psychopath. He's
a psychopath, Like he can't even hide

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it. And it's kind of almost
there's almost a sadness about it, which

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maybe Stephanie you were talking about like
maybe you're just over that it's just so

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tragic. Well, I think it's
that I feel like we're supposed to maybe

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feel bad for Tom Sandobal because he's
crying so much, But I'm like,

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you don't, like you just said, Cecily, he just seems kind of

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like associate, like he doesn't really
seem to have any actual feelings about it,

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or he wouldn't have done it,
like he's just and he does it.

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He's done it repeatedly, and he
probably has cheated with way more than

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just a Roquell and Miami, Miami
girl. Oh no, he's already even

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said that. I think he I
think I've said this allegedly. This is

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my opinion, it's not allegedly.
It's all you think Bethany's gonna sue.

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You imagine if Tom Sandoval sent you
on that would He's such a badge of

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honor. Stephanie, I'm surprised he's
not doing that right and left. But

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I think he kind of loves the
attention, and I think he's smart enough

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to know that would actually just make
him look worse. Yeah, yes,

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well, I think again, I've
said this successfully before. I think he

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has a true, like sex addiction. I think he's just yeah, I

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think he needs he requires that hit
that like having sex with somebody gives him

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some kind of validation, and he
just can't stop himself. And he's like

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so he because he's so focused on
saying how much he and Arianna had sex,

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which if anybody in a long term
relationship, especially you know, they

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were together almost ten years, is
not that focused on how many times they

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have sex. So the fact that
he kept saying not blue balls and she

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never has sex with me, it's
like, well, you could have fixed

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that but the problem is that then
you would have been having sex in the

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confines of a relationship. And I
don't think that turned him on so much.

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He wasn't willing to work at it. She repeated that over and over

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that she tried to work on it
and tried to get have quality time that

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would make her feel connected to him, and he refused. He was like,

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no, I just want to do
mushrooms and like you know, by

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batteries. I think he likes kind
of more anonymous. And the fact that

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he was having sex with Raquel,
I think fits into the sex addiction because

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it's forbidden, it's taboo, it's
risky, they could get caught, So

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like that creates he needs to create
excitement for himself, like he's doing something

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wrong. Absolutely, yeah, I
completely agree. Yeah, I think because

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you guys fight. Please if he
starts like let's say, and I guess

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people are saying they're broken up.
But I said to somebody the other day,

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if he dates Raquel, he will
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outside of the relationship. Even I
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would be like wishful thinking. I
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of the relationship and do the same
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he does this. Oh yeah,
I mean I was rewatching and I posted

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on our Roast Prick story the episode
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tell Arianna, like this guy as
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she was with him, Ariana was
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He does the same thing and then
he victim. He shames the person that

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he cheated on and says, but
you weren't nice to me. You don't

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get I don't like I've been trying
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he did to Arianna, which was
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by that because it had been nine
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them and watching Kristen like begged people
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it was just really it's hard to
watch. He's really Kristen was sleeping

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with Jack's which yes, and which
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of miss stop can I say I
missed Stacy. I know she did some

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shitty things. I'm not saying she
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little bit. It's okay if you
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romantically. He does have great clothes, but she is yeah, yeah,

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no, I know, and she
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be that. I don't think she
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think she makes more money, like
you know, I don't know, taking

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cute pictures in her house with Channel
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let's get into this rockal shows her
just like listening because now she's she's filed

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the restraining order, so she has
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Is that when she's still wearing her
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is like a little bit open where
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like her tiles are too big,
her pupils like are just her just big

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black eyes. It's not right.
I really thought it was the move to

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do this whole restraining order thing and
then to separate herself and make herself look

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better, but it only made her
look worse. This whole thing only made

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her look worse. And it reminded
me of like in high school, when

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like someone would be like a piece
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happens even earlier than that, and
then it'd be like, oh, like

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they're not coming, we need to
protect them, like they're standing with the

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teacher, and you're like, actually, you look like more of an asshole

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right now, right like it's like, yes, oh exactly, the little

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rat. Oh yeah, she's I
mean, And then okay, so fine.

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I guess we already knew Tom had
had sex. That had already come

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out that they had had sex the
night of the abbey when they went dancing

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at the abbey. I love the
Alley's the one that broke the whole story,

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Like sweet little Alley, who I
hope is the hope breaks free of

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James soon. But you know eventually
she will. I think, Um,

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she broke that story. You're I
mean, oh my god, James,

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Oh God, Well yeah, we'll
get to James. I know we'll get

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to it, but mind, he
just wants to be make himself happen oh,

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yes, always, and it's not
getting better. No, he's not

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a hero that he thinks he is. But it's fine. But then when

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Tom tries to say, like,
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it's like you wish, you wish. Remember, He's also like,

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do you know what it means to
be in like a relationship for a long

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time? Like, yeah, the
intimacy, the like hot and heavy of

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the very beginning fades and then it's
up to you to decide, like do

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I want to have a really found
solid foundation of a friendship and then build

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off of that. And so obviously
that does not work for him. That's

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it comes back to that again,
right, Okay, So when we get

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to the stage, um he says, Andy whispers to Schwartz. Schwartz comes

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out, percent you caught that.
But he was like, so were you

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silent or silenced? And Schwartz says
both, like he's been held captive in

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some basement. He's like both,
Andy, I love that. I loved

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the little lines when they were coming
out. When um Ariana, who was

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such a hero this episode, when
he comes out, she said, well,

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he looks like shit. When Santa
did he kind of did, Oh

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my God, he's got on the
old Gucci Belton everyone a Gucci belt.

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We're like, come, I can't
hurt us. I don't know a Gucci

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belt. It's like, because we
can't hurt me. I look at my

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geez. Yeah, he did look
like his his mustache was kind of like

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half off. It seemed in my
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It did have little like thinning patches, like little like lines like gray maybe

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those gray patches that had grown in
and his little why are we why is

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the mustache even back? Is this
before? Was this before he shaved?

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I forget the timeline. I guess
it was before he shaved it? Well,

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did he shave it again? He
shave He shaved it on Howie Oh,

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because he thought that was gonna like
get him like some past Like you

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know what I'll do, I'll shave
the mustache like we don't give a shit

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about your Also you are he is
very sweaty, Like doesn't he just seem

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sweaty and like I'm a girl who
sweats, so I feel like i'm a

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I can I can say that.
I can. I'm jealous of a sweater.

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It's gonna keep, it's gonna make
your skin. That's why your skin

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looks really good. The more oily
you are, like later in life,

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it's better for you. So I'll
give a stand of all that, not

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one nice thing. Um uh okay. So then the flat they're doing all

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the flashbacks. It was a lot
of flashbacks. I thought in the in

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the reunion words like we we know, that's what we're here. I love

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how they make the flashbacks too,
like they make them like a little bit

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of like an unsolved mysteries click too. They put like the layer over them.

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I'm like, what is this like
a Sepia tunnel on And I'm like,

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okay, we this just happened,
okay, like in the last episode.

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five minutes ago. They make it

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black and white with like a pop
of color. There's one little bit of

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color in it. You're like,
like it's Schindler's List with the red sweater

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redress. Yes, yes, they're
trying to be artsy, but like somebody

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like just either move on, be
in the show where you are, get

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your job that you wanted out of
NYU. But my favorite part happened kind

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of early on when Sandoval starts to
fake cry and James shut it down so

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fat. I mean, I wouldn't
want to be on the other side of

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James for sure. Yeah. So
James is like, I mean, he's

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out of control, and it's like
it seems like he's he's winning the whole

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thing because that's what he thinks,
that's what he wants us to believe.

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But really, like he's a little
tyrant. He's terrifying to me when you

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have just like a little thing on
someone and obviously this is a big thing.

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I feel like sometimes you can go
a little too hard, and I

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think that's what's happening with James.
Like he could actually come across a lot

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better. I think if he sat
back and was quiet and then said,

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you know what, this really hurt
me Tom, because hey, it hurts

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to Siriana, but also because of
the friendship that I had with you.

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I mean, I've read The Dance
with Anger. Okay. I know I

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would love James to say that I
would love it, but he should read

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that book he like, and that
would actually be more impactful. But you

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know, and they kind of reminded
me of this because they're showing some old

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episodes. But you know, James
was with Kristy. He and Sandoval were

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friends and Kristin Sandoval broke up and
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apart. I mean, you know, like they've all been so terrible,

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which was brought up last night.
But I love it when they go to

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Sandy Ball and they like anything you
want to say is like yes, Arianna,

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I'm I want I love you and
I apologize and James is like that

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didn't hit from me, and Arianna
said, I'm not even listening, and

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I just was like, this is
one after another. These everybody's on fire.

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They are just not and I do
kind of like, guess if you

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need a mouthpiece, James is it? But you're right, it's not.

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It's too much. It would be
more impactful if he chilled out. It's

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too much, and it's just because
he's trying to make it the James Show.

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I mean, when you get to
the point that everybody is like settled

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down, like you know, and
then he and then he also thinks he's

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being funny with the I'm gonna have
to have his banking right, I'm out,

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I'm out um okay. Also,
I did pick up on the fact

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that the way that Andy talks to
James is the same way he talks to

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his kid on Instagram. Like,
if you watch Andy's stories about his kid

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on Instagram, he'll be like,
dude, I already gave you like four

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cookies. He's kind of closed,
yeah, and like he's like, oh,

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and listen. I respect that Andy's
doing the whole like single parent thing

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thing, but I'm also like,
you probably have like eight nannies and yeah,

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let's be clear here. He said
that to his kids. He's like,

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oh, my cards, my cards, I had all these things.

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I was gonna say, but you
knocked him out. And I feel like

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he's talking to James the exact same
way. He's like, Okay, go

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to the bathroom and then come back
and like he loved you because he left

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so many time. What do you
call that when you blounce or whatever?

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Like he did it so many times. James like, I'm out, I'm

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back. I was like, all
right enough, And so I thought it

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was interesting though, when Lala says
that Sandy Ball is just like Randall,

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she really is pushing the Randall narrative. And I don't I don't know about

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that. I mean, yes,
in that he's a liar. I guess

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that is what she meant, but
she kind of kept saying that during the

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thing in LVP at least is getting
mad. She's really really getting mad at

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Lala, and Laala stands up to
that was a weird I didn't see that

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coming, that sort of feud between
Lalla and Lisa. She's like, I

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don't really I don't really care what
we have to say. I love Laala,

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but I also respect the hustle that
is plugging the documentary. It came

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out this week. She knows the
reunions airing the same week. She's like,

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I gotta get a Randall, I
gotta get a Randle line in.

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I was like, oh, yes, that is I think that's the point

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of that. And you know,
they're both ship people, but they're ship

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people in different colors. I think, yes, yes, you know,

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yes, that's a very good that
was a very good way to put that.

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And by the way, we Stephanie
and I forced herself to watch the

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documentary and we talk about it on
our board af our other Patreon. If

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anybody, I mean, we might
have some bad tanks. We won't go

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right now. Well, I mean, we're not like apologist for Randall.

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We don't like the guy, but
we're just annoyed by the documentary itself because

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we're just love a scammer. Yeah, I know, I know Randall Meredith.

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That's something we talked about on the
thing. I know him from back

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in the day, not anymore.
I have seen him in like fifteen years,

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but there's I know him. We
just couldn't get past the fact that

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on the documentary they were focusing on
certain things that made him a really bad

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person, like that he didn't provide
lunch for the intern Have you watched it

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documentary that featured prominently that he didn't
provide much like there's any experience of internships,

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Like Okay, so that's yeah,
that's our board patron. Okay,

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so Sandoval, where are we next? Oh yeah, again he's blaming their

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connection. They didn't have a connection, so therefore he can cheat. They're

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not having that, and Arianna is
fired up, which I love. Um.

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I will say one thing that I
did kind of love about this,

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and you're saying, you know,
are we kind of getting burned out on

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this? So many times I've known
people that like I don't really know or

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I knew them at one point in
life, and I see them break up

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through social media and I'm like,
I have so many fucking questions. I

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want to know where it all went
wrong. So this is kind of great

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that we get to see all these
questions get asked, Like I will give

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it that, and I feel like
they are asking some of the hard questions.

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But to your point, Tom is
just regurgitating the same exact answers,

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which is like we didn't have a
connection, and it's like that is not

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working right. It's just total it's
complete bullshit. Then the narrative goes on

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that it's like, well who it
was? At least that said, like

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James and Sandoval are like brothers when
they start fighting, and then they get

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up and start to physically fight,
like who's by the way, who do

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you guys, who do you take
in that fight? I take Sandoval?

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Honestly, I don't think James don't
know what does he really think that he

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can I'll fuck you up with words. I think, Yeah, James,

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James fights dirty, or that's what
I'll say. Like, James definitely fights

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dirtier. You've ever seen James's mom. She used to like steal Kristen's credit

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card information. Oh, God,
the mom puts that would be sad for

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James. That really is really tough. I mean, we see where it

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comes from. But yeah, wait, she would steal credit card really yeah,

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she like, you know, she
like wrote down Kristen's credit card when

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I think when they were living to
get allegedly okay, yeah, the last

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cease and desist from James Kennedy's mother. Uh, and she would say that,

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and so she took it to get
I think it was to get botox.

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I think that's what she did with
it. Oh, valid, that's

404
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Stephanie saying, good reason. Ye
he Sometimes you do what you have to

405
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.680
do. I got mine last week. I'm feeling shiny, I'm feeling good.

406
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.200
James, you look gorgeous. And
I was talking to you, not

407
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.519
James, because I did say James
first. But so when they start fighting

408
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.920
and he gets up and all his
little one your band sucks dicks, all

409
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.279
the thing he was being, he
was out of control. It wasn't helping

410
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.359
the situation. For me. It
was kind of fun. But I think,

411
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.640
how how we forget, like Katie
laugh everybody laughing, because how can

412
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:04.480
you not? But he's so ruthless, like in a season or two,

413
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.279
if they still exist, he's going
to come for Katie for some other reasons.

414
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:12.079
He's still abusive and terrible. I
just think he's being he's trying to

415
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:17.319
be entertaining. I think he thinks
he knows. I think he thinks he's

416
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.400
like, yeah, I know the
assignment, but that's not assignment. I

417
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.880
think he misinterpreted the assignment. And
it was like, No, the assignment

418
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.240
is to just actually be kind of
real because all the drama's already there,

419
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:32.759
it's inherent in this situation. You
don't need to do this crazy ranting and

420
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.440
raving and stealing focus from everybody.
It's not about him. And speaking of

421
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.559
not understanding the assignment, they show
Rachel, we just we're just going to

422
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:41.920
call her Rachel. Meredith beut Yeah, oh yeah, I'm here, Fred,

423
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.559
Yeah, we we. She seems
to think it's funny. It shows

424
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.880
her on the trailer at one point
and she's kind of lat like she doesn't

425
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.279
even understand the expression she's supposed to
have on her face. She kind of

426
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.039
laughs at the James, like all
the stuff that's happening there, I thought,

427
00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.640
I really strange. There's something I
want to talk about, Rachel,

428
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:07.119
and that is um her carbon footprint
because um, let's be honest here,

429
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.200
because of her restraining order, they
had to have an additional trailer with you

430
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.319
know, energy using you know.
I was like, what is the toll

431
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:21.000
that this trailer is taking on the
environment here in I don't know, Studio

432
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:25.279
City. No one's talking about that, Rachel. That's another that's another thing

433
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.759
that you've done. That's another The
planet is another victim in this affair.

434
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.599
So she thuch that was using non
reusable plastics, right, oh yeah,

435
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.920
you know everybody another water bottle?
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and

436
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.640
then just tears it apart and throws
the plastics everywhere. But I agree,

437
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.599
she was like, just like giggling. I don't think she knows appropriate reactions,

438
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.400
Like I really I think something that
that I think is just something that's

439
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.079
going on there. Yeah, possibly, I think that's so all right,

440
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:57.920
Then they get to the thing which
we saw in the trailer. Many times

441
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:03.480
it's just the timeline being off when
they're talking about the stuff. You'd seen

442
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.200
that, but we'd talked about that
before, when right, like, and

443
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:11.240
that's that's a major thing where Sandoval
always coaches p He coached Ariana again with

444
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.200
Kristen he like he coaches you to
say exactly how you're going to get through

445
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.200
it, and he coached Schwartz this
whole time in Schwartz forgot what he was

446
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.880
supposed to say, and that was
amazing. And when Lala just right came

447
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.680
as like oh oh no, oh
no, little babies, timelines are off,

448
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:32.160
that was amazing. And I love
that Schwartz started coming clean. I

449
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:36.039
feel I think he's coming clean.
I think he knows this is like his

450
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.680
last redemption is to sort of say, hey, you know what, yeah,

451
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.680
actually I did now, like yeah, and he starts telling he was

452
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.480
just telling it. I think he
got for a second like he's been scared.

453
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.960
I mean he's also I'm not trying
to make him a hero either,

454
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.400
but I think he's not. I
guess it's like the who's the worst of

455
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.440
the worst, who's the best of
the worst. You know, people are

456
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.359
trying to make Jack's out to be
like Jack's was the great guy all along?

457
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.319
No, oh my god, no, But Schwartz is always Yeah.

458
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:06.000
He does have that like kind of
Labrador retriever thing, and he's he's telling

459
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.680
the timeline. Now listen, I'm
an alan On girl, and I see

460
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:15.000
the code of endency going on between
Sandoval and Schwartz, Like Schwartz is Shorts

461
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.000
and I sharts if you would like
to go to a meeting. I know

462
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.440
it's an anonymous program, but I
will go to a meeting with you.

463
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.359
I will even go to Valley Village
to the meeting with you and Sharts.

464
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.680
Yeah, if you're listening, I'll
go out with you. I'm going to

465
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:27.799
take it a step further. She'll
go to a meeting with you. I'll

466
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.359
date you. Yeah. Hear me
out, hear me out all y'all.

467
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.119
No, But I just I thought
that was interesting when the Miami Girl,

468
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.680
well that I guess that wasn't Schwartz
anymore. But when they brought that up,

469
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.319
that's finally admitted, which we knew
anyway from you know, whispering or

470
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:48.079
whatever. But I thought that was
interesting that Arianna knew all along and was

471
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.200
covering that. That goes to Schwarts
like Sandoval is always writing the narrative and

472
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.960
making everybody follow it. Because Arianna
knew about Miami Girl was protecting him,

473
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.359
which is crazy to me. That's
so crazy. Sure that wasn't the only

474
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:06.920
one, now, definitely that there's
been other circumstances where even Ariana found out.

475
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.960
I'm sure there are a lot of
girls that Sandoval got with that Arianna

476
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.440
didn't know about, but I bet
you there were more that she found out

477
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.920
about and was just like, ah, yeah, he demonized we've been together

478
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.599
a while, like whatever. Sometimes
he can't keep it in his pants,

479
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.519
but like that's just him. I
guess I up in public right, and

480
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.880
then her friend right with her friend, and and then we go to the

481
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.680
somebody finally says, okay, let's
take a break from this for a second

482
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.799
and talk about like, you know, the Katie and Schwartz, you know,

483
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.720
they were married and divorced, that
all that, all these storylines that

484
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.720
were supposed to be huge got kind
of just like under it was kind of

485
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.759
cares yeah, and the exactly.
And then I also I felt sad that

486
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.000
Schwartz was again blaming Katie lack of
intimacy, Like, oh my god,

487
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.680
dude, take some accountability. She
doesn't have to explain why she didn't want

488
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.519
him to hook up with her friends. That's just one oh one. Well,

489
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.680
and also, like you guys gasol
at her like all season right over

490
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.359
this imagine finding out that this whole
thing that you've been upset about. Wasn't

491
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:14.039
even what what was actually happening.
So it's really it's it's it's really cruel

492
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:19.279
and gross. And I thought it
was interesting. I think it was.

493
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.400
I don't know, was it sand
Ofval. Somebody was like, well,

494
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.079
this is like therapy for us,
and Arianna's like, this is not therapy.

495
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.880
Short set it short set it,
like oh, we're just one big

496
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.079
family and it's therapy. And yeah, They're like, yeah, this is

497
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.079
therapy to me. This is not
what she clapped. She did a clack

498
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:37.279
back on that literally. But Andy
then at this point points out, like

499
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:38.839
I said that this is all a
group of cheaters, like no one in

500
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.680
fact, he said, and I've
said this on our show many times,

501
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.359
no one has clean hands except Katie. That's the only one who has not.

502
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.119
I know she's not been perfect,
and she has had her her mean

503
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.119
moments, but she did she really
has been pretty loyal like she she doesn't

504
00:32:54.680 --> 00:33:00.839
usually go out of her Yeah,
and I would say, like, you

505
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.920
know, it's a it's a Bravo
show, right, like there's anyone going

506
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.119
to be perfect. We all contain
multitudes, but clearly, and that's what

507
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.160
I think, Like when people try
to say like, oh, well,

508
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.160
you cheated on this person or you
cheated on that person. There's a big

509
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.480
difference I think between like oh,
well you like hooked up with some random

510
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.920
person or made out with someone at
a club then versus like, oh,

511
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:27.400
you were actively sleeping with my really
good friend in our house and like that.

512
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.200
There's there are I think there are, And I don't know what do

513
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.880
you guys think? Do you think
there's like levels to cheating? Sort of

514
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.039
like yeah, for sure, Steph, what do you think it absolutely shows

515
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.319
what kind of a person is he? Just I mean, yes, there's

516
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:44.079
cheating and trying to and then there's
having sex with your best friend and then

517
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.640
acting like it's your fault. I
mean, I just don't see how there's

518
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.720
any way anybody could see Tom Sandoval's
side in this. It's totally true.

519
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.240
But I think Andy's point which Lisa
sort of echoed, which Lisa had a

520
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.119
lot of bad takes, but the
point being that just they've all I mean,

521
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.759
Arianna was really mean to Kristen,
and Kristen was really mean to Stoss,

522
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.759
and I mean they've all cheated with
people with that were their friends.

523
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.119
To be fair, I guess at
that time Kristin and Arianna weren't friends,

524
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.440
but she was really she gasol at
her to her face as well. Kristen

525
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.679
was, like I said earlier,
dying to have people believe her because she

526
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:21.079
was telling the truth about Sandoval and
Arianna was covering Sandoval. It was just

527
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.440
really shitty. And it doesn't mean
that Arianna deserves this now, of course

528
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:28.440
not. It's it's it's way worse
what happened now, but you know,

529
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.559
it's it did happen. She did
give none of their sides. That's why

530
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.960
it's hard. Katie. We love
Katie here, we're very mean. I

531
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.559
hated her outfit though, what was
she was wearing some kind of like Bride

532
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:45.119
of Dracula. Yeah, she's not
like no the Ma Mac dark lipstick.

533
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.519
Yes, she's very twenty sixteen.
I'd go even further back to like ninety

534
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.719
seven for sure. Yeah, I
like it though. I think she's awesome.

535
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:59.320
You think though, that that is
how Raquel sort of in her own

536
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.519
mind while this was happening, was
justifying it of that, like, while

537
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.920
there's been a lot of cheating in
this group, like while it was going

538
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.559
on, do you think she was
kind of thinking well, he you know,

539
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.400
Ariana was part of a cheating situation. Kristin cheated Stas you know they

540
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.599
all actually I don't know if Stasi
cheated, but like right, yeah,

541
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.280
it's like, do you think that
that's kind of maybe what Raquel thought would

542
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.679
happen when this all fell out.
Do you think she thought, oh,

543
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.880
well, this will get chopped up
to The show is literally based on a

544
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.320
cheating scandal, right, because when
we go all the way back to the

545
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.599
beginning, it's based on Shena hooking
up with Brandy's husband. That's how the

546
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.280
show. That is the beginning of
the show, it's the genesis of it.

547
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.239
So do you think Rachel thought,
oh well, this will just be

548
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.000
chopped up to another cheating scandal and
people will be mad at me for a

549
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.320
season, and then I'll come back
and I'll be part of the group again.

550
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.599
I think she's smart. I was
just gonna say, Okay, yeah,

551
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.000
she's not at all. I think
sand of All had that thought and

552
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.000
he put it in her head.
She's if there was a thought bubble above

553
00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.639
her head, it would just be
like a cloud, and then inside that

554
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:05.679
cloud would be a question mark.
And the Puppy Party flyer. She's young

555
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:12.159
and real dumb in my estimation,
and very manipulate, manipult, manipulative.

556
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.079
How do you pronounce that? How
do you say that you don't know?

557
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:21.719
You got manipulated? And I think
that the Sandoval even said, oh and

558
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.599
then you know, he was confiding
in her about his relationship, you know,

559
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.880
So I think he was manipulating her
and going like, oh my gosh,

560
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.800
she doesn't understand me, but you're
so you get me, you know,

561
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.400
you're so you're you know, he
was going after this girl who's young

562
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.039
and dumb and like, oh,
my pageant career didn't work out and I'm

563
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:43.079
so sad and don't feel good about
myself, and he was like, you're

564
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:47.679
amazing, You're so smart. Like
people don't appreciate you, you know,

565
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.840
and you know who doesn't appreciate me, my girlfriend? You know. But

566
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.960
what would be bad, Like I
really into you, But what would be

567
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.920
bad is for this to come out
right now, because then we would look

568
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.079
really bad. Because so what we're
gonna do, Like I am going to

569
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.639
break up with her, but like
after the season, you know, so

570
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.079
that it's done so that she's not
publicly humiliated. So I think Roquel had

571
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.920
it in her mind that like his
relationship with Arianna was over, they were

572
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:17.239
no longer sleeping together, and that
as soon as the cameras were off and

573
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.079
the season was done, then he'll
tell her and he'll really move out,

574
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.360
and like, we're just not going
to publicly humiliate That's what I think was

575
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:28.920
going on. So I think Roquell
was like, well, if we can

576
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.519
just get through this season, so
let me just like keep this going and

577
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:36.519
pretend that I'm still friends with Arianna. And like, I don't think either

578
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.519
of them thought that this was going
to blow up before the end of the

579
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:45.239
season. They were so close and
finishing the season. They'd made it so

580
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:51.159
far. And Tiger Woods taught me
when I was a lot younger, never

581
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.639
leave a fucking paper trail. If
they hadn't left a paper trail, and

582
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.920
you know what would have happened to
is if, like, let's say that

583
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.920
they hadn't even if they had been
cheating on each which is terrible, you

584
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.000
know, whatever been hooking up.
What they could have done is they could

585
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.840
have Tom could have broken up with
Arianna and then three or four months later

586
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.719
they'd be like, you know what, I'm kind of dating Raquel, and

587
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.440
people would have been pissed and people
would have still not liked it, but

588
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.239
it wouldn't have been like this,
right, right, It wouldn't have It

589
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.480
wouldn't have like affected their restaurants and
like right, which yeah apparently, and

590
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:23.960
people would have even been on their
side in a way. They would have

591
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.000
been like, well, he should
be free the day whoever he wants.

592
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.400
It would have been like the Katie
I mean, the Schwartz and Raquel thing.

593
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.280
Yeah, well exactly. And speaking
of which, before we the Joe,

594
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.559
they tried to bring I Love it
again all these storylines. Okay,

595
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.519
obviously you know what I'm going to
say, because the line of the century

596
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:44.760
was like, Joe is spooky?
Did you see that? So Joe,

597
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:49.119
who we never Joe just keeps trying
to work herself onto the show and basically

598
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.480
started hooking up with Schwartz even though
she was friends with everybody, and then

599
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.159
she I guess they were denying it. And then finally Schwartz a n It's

600
00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.280
like, yeah, we're fuck buddies
whatever, And Katie's always been superch like

601
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.119
no one likes Joe, and then
it showed the text message Joe is spooky

602
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.400
I have never referred to anybody as
spooky, but that was just really that's

603
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:13.079
like the best slam. But Tom
Schwartz got so mad at her about it

604
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.280
and was like, oh, you're
being a troll. She's continued, You're

605
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.119
like a troll, like on your
typewriter in a basement. Like is that

606
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.440
what he said? Yes, he
called her a troll and he and he

607
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:28.360
did, and he did a like
a year typing thing like you're just in

608
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.280
there typing mean stuff about people.
That's an idiot. Well, and clearly

609
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.519
he's been watching my tiktoks because then
he's like, Joe's going to send you

610
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.280
a season desist. I'm like,
Andy, and we like have a I

611
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.559
don't know, can you host a
webinar on how season assists work for this

612
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.280
group? Because I'm gonna do that. Joe has a lawyer. Yeah,

613
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:53.559
Joe, stop threatening that. I
will say my favorite part of the entire

614
00:39:53.599 --> 00:40:00.880
episode was when James and Tom Sandoval
were fighting and James yelled at him like,

615
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.480
who are you? You had the
same haircut for ten years? I

616
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.480
was like, whoa, whoa Sandoval? You. First of all, I

617
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:13.800
didn't realize that we were gonna throw
that around second of all, you want

618
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.760
to talk about haircuts, I literally
this morning went through the myth like the

619
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:23.559
Smithsonian of Tom Sandoval haircuts. The
best thing that man could fucking do is

620
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:28.639
get his haircut, Like James Kennedy's
like, you guys, the haircuts this

621
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.639
man has hat Yeah. Are And
also, and I said this to someone

622
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.920
earlier, way to ostracize yourself from
the boomers, because like, name a

623
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.360
boomer male who hasn't had the same
haircut since like nineteen sixty two when he

624
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:45.840
was like a little kid going off
to school. Who the fuck cares if

625
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.679
someone's had the same haircut for ten
years. Yeah, he's not good at

626
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.119
the fight. Do you know what
it is? I got riled up?

627
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.400
Oh my god, it's that Sandoval
is only really good at yelling at women.

628
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.400
When he right with men, he
doesn't have anything he gets right,

629
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.000
super beta. But yeah, he's
real, real big guy when he's yelling

630
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.760
at the ladies. Yeah. Oh
he makes me so I just like,

631
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.760
even just talking about it, I
never think I can like dislike him more.

632
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.760
And then and then he says this, and then the screaming the booing

633
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.440
at him was really funny to me, and Steph and I and I'm sure

634
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.000
you as well, Meredith, Like
we've been talking all season about how this

635
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.360
he feel with the mustache. He
feels like a villain and old tiny like

636
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.440
tie you up on the train tracks
kind of things. So when they started

637
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.719
like this spoon, I was like, oh my god, it really is

638
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.880
that he really is it really is? Yeah, And Raquel's in the background

639
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:37.079
like just like cheering him on wearing
some weird outfit and then okay, so

640
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.159
to inconclude, like ending like I
want to hang up. Well. One

641
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.079
other thing that I thought was interesting
was the whole Arianna trying to be a

642
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.320
little bit of a big shot,
like how she's going to determine who she

643
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.840
stays friends with, Like if people
are going to be friends with Tom,

644
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:53.119
like she's not going to deal with
them. And then they're like, but

645
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.440
what about Lisa vander Pump. Yes, She's like, um, I mean

646
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.679
yeah, like that's what I was
just gonna say. Yeah, yeah,

647
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.719
I mean we won't be as close. They're like, oh, okay,

648
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:06.840
how how's that going to work out? And she's like, well, I

649
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.480
mean, you know, I won't
really want to like go to their restaurant

650
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.719
or whatever. But it was just
took the wind out of her sails because

651
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.000
it goes, well, that would
be unfortunate. It would really like us

652
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:23.360
to stay close. And she was
like, okay, yeah, that fast.

653
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.159
She did because she knows because eventually, you know, some of these

654
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.960
things might like she is that she
is the star right now, but this

655
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.639
is gonna dry up, and she's
gonna probably want and need the show.

656
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.199
She needs the show to push the
restaurant right, and she knows where her

657
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.719
bread is buttered. And so it's
hard to watch because like you know,

658
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:45.159
Kyle, for example, from Housewives, you know, uh, she didn't

659
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.639
she didn't have she didn't need Lisa, so she could get the balls to

660
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.760
like stand up to even though I'm
no Kyle sam Um, like I always

661
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:59.400
preferred Lisa. I wish Kyle by
Kyle by Kyle. Yeah, Lisa doesn't

662
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.079
need anybody. So that was that
was, and Lisa pushed back. She

663
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.239
did, she kind of pushed back
on that. I was like, okay,

664
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.719
well, I don't see why I
have to take sides, but I

665
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.679
do see Arianna's point too, Like
i'd be pissed. I don't want when

666
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:13.519
somebody, if someone's done me dirty, I wouldn't want Stephanie to be from

667
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.119
still, you know, talk to
them. And I think it's hard.

668
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:21.360
It was okay when people were doing
that to Katie. She was okay when

669
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.440
running like me. No, Schwartz, Arianna didn't have a wasn't putting her

670
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:29.199
foot down at all. Nope,
not a little No, I don't think

671
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:34.519
so. I think it's hard because
of the way that money is tied up

672
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:38.480
with the restaurant group and like all
these different places. Because you know,

673
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:45.000
when I look at Tom Tom on
the trademark's website, which Arianna, if

674
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.800
you're listening, Schwartz and Sandy's is
not trademarked. That's a that's a stupid

675
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.559
business move. So sweetie, I'm
letting you get on that trademark that shit.

676
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:59.840
Okay, m second of all,
Tom Tom is trademarked, but the

677
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.320
trademark is dead. So LVP,
you might want to get on that.

678
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.119
Why don't we do it? Can
we do it? You can? Yeah,

679
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.400
sure, they might do it.
They might get like they might get

680
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.039
like the right to like look at
it again. But yeah, it is

681
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:17.360
like, listen, I love the
trademark website. It's like my favorite website,

682
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.920
but it's under Todd's name Todd or
ken Ken Todd's name. He is

683
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.360
the one under the trademark of Tom
Tom the restaurant. So anyway, I

684
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.159
guess my point is it's all so
incestuous with the money that I think it's

685
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.480
really hard for Lisa to be like, Okay, I am I am done

686
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.440
with X person or done with that
person because she has a vested interest in

687
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:46.159
some of their business is doing well. Totally yes, yeah, they all

688
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.400
do. Just um this is I
have this towards the very end of the

689
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.320
episode, but the part where Shena
where they're asking Shena like if she had

690
00:44:53.360 --> 00:45:00.039
any idea and why did she believe
Rachel Rachel more than anybody? And then

691
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.119
she gets her big moment where she's
like, because it all goes back to

692
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.840
when I was bullied. I'm very
triggered because I took her word as bible,

693
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.960
because like, these girls have bullied
me. And then they showed the

694
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.599
clips of them Molly Sina and I
was like, you're all pathetic, and

695
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.639
Lola stood up to that. She's
like, stop saying bullying stop that can

696
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.480
you stop? And then the stand
of all got myself, that's because you're

697
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:28.239
a bully, Like what is this
that is like the worst word that anyone

698
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.639
can call each other. Now,
I'm like, thanks the fucking lot,

699
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.920
Millannia Trump like like it's every day
is the best day on that show.

700
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:42.440
Remember the best day Millennia's day when
one weren't supposed to bully um, but

701
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.440
like they love throwing that word around. I'm like, you guys aren't bullies.

702
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.079
You're like, I don't know,
some of you might be serial killers.

703
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.960
I don't way worse. I love
that we just got through that and

704
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.039
that was just episode one of the
real I mean, there's just so much

705
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.039
more to come. It's going to
be interesting. I mean stuff is leaking

706
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:06.119
every second, Like before we even
in the next five minutes before this goes

707
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.000
up, there's gonna be like ten
more stories that we didn't address. So

708
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.000
I did see Arianna yesterday. I
went to the U. I went to

709
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:21.800
a raising canes the chicken Place.
Love it And it was eight thirty in

710
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.800
the morning, which is like a
great time to eat chicken tenders. Actually

711
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.760
they were delicious. I feel have
you guys ever had I'd never had them

712
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:32.119
before? Is that it was an
El sagundo, so by the yep and

713
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.719
Arianna came and she I walked up
to the counter, and first of all,

714
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.119
she's really beautiful. She's very beautiful
in person. She was funny,

715
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.480
she was like going with the flow. But I walked up to the counter

716
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:46.679
and I was like, Hi,
how are you? And she said I

717
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.800
know you and I said, I'm
so sorry. She said I know you

718
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.800
from the internet. I've watched your
staff. So she was very sweet,

719
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.440
very kind, and I wish only
good things. I agree, we agree

720
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.079
with that, and and that's what
I heard from my intel at towards and

721
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.320
Sandy's two like she's a she's a
good person. I mean, she's been

722
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.000
involved in a like a crazy show
with crazy people for a long time.

723
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:13.280
And like you said, everyone's gonna
do you know, thank and sandival I

724
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.880
kind of blame him more. He
was the one dating Kristen, not Arianna.

725
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.480
She didn't even know she was friend. God knows what he was telling

726
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.519
her. He was totally she's crazy. I've been trying to break up with

727
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.079
her for years. You know.
It's the same shit. These narcissists.

728
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:29.199
Not to over use that word,
we are very careful about that, but

729
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:34.920
he is. They're called gas lighters. It's they're called borderline, covert,

730
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.559
all the best words, we have
them, we got them. Thank you

731
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:45.360
so much, thank you for having
me leisure. You're a treat. And

732
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.119
you can find Meredith on her TikTok
or on Instagram. But go to her

733
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:54.079
TikTok at Meredith m Lynch Meredith and
then m like the letter m Lynch and

734
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:58.800
she's got all the videos. And
we can still find your bethany stuff on

735
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.159
there a little bit right. You
better believe it. Yeah, and join

736
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:06.519
our patreons too to hear like our
own little star. I promise I bring

737
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.400
this. There's things I include in
there, y'all that I've that I have

738
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:20.400
never shared. So yes, always
do Bye everybody, Bye boys. About the posta

