WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:06.240 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty and 2 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.960 Look You Here, Look You Here. Even though Towalla sharp hated the movie, 3 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:19.120 Despicable Me four came in at number one again and had a very very 4 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:27.320 respectable forty four million dollars or so, even added twenty one theaters. So 5 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:32.880 even though Twala didn't like the movie, the movie is doing well in theaters 6 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:38.640 now. Movie houses probably appreciate that, but as far as quality of the 7 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:43.479 movie releases, not so much. Long legs. You probably heard Mark Ronner 8 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:48.920 explain how that was a surprising number two with twenty two zero point four million. 9 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.880 I still don't know what that movie's about. Don't know if I'll go 10 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.200 to see it. Oh you should see It's It's good. It's it kind 11 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:59.479 of starts you off in kind of silence of the Lamb's territory and then gets 12 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.600 weirder. Well worth seeing. And it was only projected to make up to 13 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.920 fifteen million dollars over the weekend, and it really blew that out. Inside 14 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:14.519 Out came in at number three with nineteen million. Its hall is now up 15 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:21.560 to five hundred and seventy one million. Domestically. That is another bona fide 16 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:26.480 hit. It is globally one point three four billion, number one movie of 17 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:33.200 the year so far, very very surprising. I don't think even Pixar expected 18 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:37.040 that movie to do that. Well, usually you have some level of diminishing 19 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:41.359 return for a sequel. Oh no, they expected this one to go gangbusters 20 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.920 one point four billion gang busters. The early reports they said that this was 21 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.079 going to be the first billion dollar film of the year. Well, it 22 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.079 was true to form in that regard. I have a quick question. I 23 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:59.760 had the opportunity to see a screening of the new movie Twisters, which is 24 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:05.159 you yeah, which is not? It's not a sequel per se to the 25 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:13.120 nineteen ninety sixth movie Twister with Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton, but it is, 26 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:20.599 they say, a continuation of the overarching story. It's a succession of 27 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.520 that story, but it's not connected in any way. There are no characters 28 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:30.439 shared, there are no updates on anyone. There are some homages in it. 29 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.759 I saw it. It was okay. The stars Glenn Powell and someone 30 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.800 else I never heard of, can't remember her name, but you know, 31 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.960 it was okay. There was some decent cgi and some tense moments. I 32 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:51.479 did appreciate how they made the movie as if the tornadoes plural were definitely monstrous, 33 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.599 villainous, they were characters in the movie. I just didn't buy the 34 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:00.240 story. If you saw the original, you know, Helen Hunt scarred by 35 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:05.120 the loss and memory of her father, so she's doing this in memory of 36 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:10.479 him to get more information about how and why tornado's form. This movie the 37 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:16.159 protagonist she scarred because she lost friends while in college studying tornadoes, trying to 38 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.439 get more information about how and why they form, and the whole movie is 39 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.759 about her trying to get more information. Say it with me, how and 40 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.960 why Tornado's form. It seems like everything that Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton did 41 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:34.680 in nineteen ninety six meant nothing. Nothing. I thought the whole point of 42 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.840 the device that they created Dorothy Dorothy one, two and three, it didn't. 43 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:44.360 It didn't because clearly what they're working with now, with this updated technology, 44 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.719 it didn't know much more. I don't know what to say. It's 45 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:53.360 almost like the first movie didn't happen at all in the larger telling of the 46 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:58.520 Twisters universe. But there is supposed to be you know, this is this 47 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.319 is a Twisters universe. It's within the same world. You know. They 48 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.120 even have the ho watch it's not a big secret. It's in the trailer. 49 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:09.199 Then O watch to the Red Truck. They have almost an identical red 50 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:12.759 truck. It's just old and beat up. Now that's the main truck in 51 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.319 this movie. Okay, yeah, it was. Okay, I just threw 52 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.319 that in it because I'm trying to figure out when it comes out. I 53 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:20.600 think it comes out tomorrow, so there's a lot of anticipation for that. 54 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:30.399 I loved Twister the original, so it was it was sledding uphill for me. 55 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.959 Glenn Powell, it's a fine actor. It's just the movie itself. 56 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:38.920 They should have called it, I don't know, tornadoes or something like that. 57 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.480 It's just don't call it something else. Don't try to connect it. 58 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.959 They had the same even font as the original movie, so they're trying to 59 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.319 let you know it's a continuation of the storyline, but it's not a continuation 60 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:57.000 of the storyline. Boy, look at the perks. You get an advance 61 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.240 screening in the Twister movie. You're on the no no, no, boy, 62 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.240 you don't know twall and nin We used to go to a lot of 63 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:08.040 screenings a lot because we had more time. Now, if you're doing a 64 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.560 show between seven and ten Monday through Friday, look, I get lot. 65 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:17.120 I get invites to screenings from Amazon, but they're all started away six o'clock, 66 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:21.959 starting to get step and I'm like, no, can't go. So 67 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:28.079 that will probably be number one this week, this coming week. But let 68 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.639 me get back to the chart. Coming in at number four this week is 69 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.959 a quiet place Day one. It's still hanging tough as a total of one 70 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:41.439 hundred and fifteen million domestically and two hundred and twenty million worldwide. But see 71 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.959 this is another example of diminishing returns. I think that's the lowest of the 72 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:50.560 three movies total gross, if I'm not mistaken. Number five, fly Me 73 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:55.120 to the Moon. I think that underperformed. It came in with nine million, 74 00:05:55.199 --> 00:06:00.279 and this is a debut week. That's domestic, and it had nine 75 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:04.120 million international, so eighteen million worldwide. I didn't really care. I didn't 76 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:08.160 want to see that movie because I've seen the movie Capricorn one, so at 77 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.959 best, it's a pale imitation of Capricorn one. If you know the storyline, 78 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.639 Oh, you can't beat Capricorn one. Capricorn One with better special effects 79 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.160 could have been a classic movie. I think it is a classic movie regardless 80 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:23.639 of the present. I think it's a cult classic. I think it's a 81 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:28.360 cult classic. It could have been a straight up classic if it had today's 82 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.199 production sensibilities available to it. Well, yeah, and you and I were 83 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.240 talking about outlined a couple of breaks ago, same director Peter Hyams. He 84 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:39.399 ranked out some wonderfully entertaining stuff for a couple of decades around the eighties and 85 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:45.240 seventies. Bad Boys Ride or Die at number six, coming in at number 86 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:51.519 seven, It's Horizon American Saga Chapter one coming in a number eightist Maxine Triple 87 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:56.759 X number nine, Sound of Hope, the Story of Possum Trot. And 88 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.079 I'm hearing like a lot of good reviews on that. That what I'm not 89 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.800 going to see him? Try? Well, would you rather see Indian two, 90 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:09.399 which came in at number two with one I guess I'm saying, I 91 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:13.600 have no idea what's happening. It came in at number ten. I don't 92 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.160 like that. And did you know they re released The Lion King. It 93 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.480 brought in a million dollars this week? Yeah, that's just cheap. That's 94 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.720 just a cheap play. That's just like free money. It's like, let's 95 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:27.360 just throw it back in theaters this summertime. Yeah, somebody will go see 96 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.279 it. Now, see the Horizon movie that did so bad that they've canceled 97 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.519 Horizon too. Well, they didn't cancel it, they postponed it. I 98 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:38.079 thought they they postponed a damn nearing. Definitely. No. I thought that 99 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.600 they weren't going to try to release the next one in theaters, so it 100 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.839 was supposed to go direct to streaming. Well, the last that I read 101 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.319 was that they wanted to give this first one more of a chance to be 102 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.800 seen by people, and so they pushed off the second one. They want 103 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:55.839 people to see this on streaming on max on. I won't. I really 104 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.160 want to see it, and I feel bad that I didn't go and see 105 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:01.839 it in the theater, But now that I know it's going to be hidden 106 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.319 streaming soon, I'm not going to. It's hard for me to watch long, 107 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.800 dull movies. It was. It took me like three different sittings to 108 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.839 watch Doom Part two. I still haven't bothered because the first one was such 109 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:20.639 a snoozer. It's kind of like the second part of that Zack Snyder abomination 110 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.399 that's on Netflix. Why would I put myself through a part two if the 111 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.439 first one sucks. I'm telling you part two. I don't care what Tawalla 112 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:31.319 says. He's wrong. It's worse than part one. And that took me 113 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:35.720 like five sittings, no exaggeration, short, every hour counts. I couldn't 114 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.000 get through it. It was so bad. Yeah, it was streaming bad. 115 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.519 Your Horizon movie. They say it's pulled from theaters, so it's not 116 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:50.679 coming out August, and at this time the film remains unclear when it will 117 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.399 ever come out. Well, that's too bad. I love Westerns, and 118 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.679 I'm kind of I'm ambivalent about Costner, but I think he knows how to 119 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:00.440 make a decent movie. Yeah, I think he does. It's just that 120 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:05.960 me personally, I don't like long, slow plotting movies. Not not any 121 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.639 of the Lord of the Rings movies, none of them. I just there's 122 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.799 a lot of walking and talking. I don't need three hours of that. 123 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.639 That's honestly part of what's kept me from seeing it in the theater, because 124 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:20.559 you got to spend like a half a day just to see this movie. 125 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.000 And as we get older, I get crankier and crankier about movies that are 126 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.120 over two hours, Like you couldn't do this in two hours or ninety minutes? 127 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.639 Really well, not only that, I got to go to the bathroom. 128 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:35.320 You know it's three hours. Yeah, I forgot to mention your prostate. 129 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:37.600 I'm sorry. Thank you. At least I care about my prostate even 130 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:43.200 if you don't know. We all do. Thank you. That wasn't funny. 131 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.600 It wasn't a joke. It's a statement of fact. I'm gonna start 132 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.679 making most prostate or regular feature of my weekly reviews. No, no, 133 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.799 it was making an appearance. It's not going to stay. It's not going 134 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.919 to be a regular feature. Well, it'll be subtext in all of them, 135 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.960 whether or not you pick up on it. Later with mo Kelly, 136 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.440 we're going to talk about Atari Summer Camp when we come back KFI AE six 137 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:09.480 forty Like everywhere in the iHeartRadio app you're listening to Later with mo Kelly on 138 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.360 demand from KFI AM six forty Atari. We all know it's one of the 139 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:20.399 world's most iconic consumer brands and interactive entertainment producers in the world. They announced 140 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.759 earlier that there is open enrollment for Atari Summer Camp, which is an eight 141 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:35.320 week online celebration of retro gaming and everything nineteen eighties. And that's just perfect 142 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.679 for someone who's gen X like me, and anyone can join during the camp 143 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:45.159 season by signing up at Atari dot com. And I have to ask this 144 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:52.320 question, Elmer, you were born in the late twentieth century ninety two? 145 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.000 Do you have any memory of an Atari console? I never owned one, 146 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:03.039 but like I know of them, Mark, he knows of them. He's 147 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:11.240 never laid his hand on an Atari console. Wow. There are partner events 148 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.200 and virtual field trips which will be announced with the course of the four two 149 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:20.480 week sessions. They also include special activations Coinbase, Nifty Island, roller Coaster, 150 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:26.399 Tycoon, and more. Participants will log into a personalized Atari club page 151 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.799 and gain access to a camp portal model after an Atari st desktop that is 152 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:37.960 hosted by an AI Camp director, Old Meeting. New programming will take place 153 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.480 in Discord, social media, and several immersive partner platforms. If you're on 154 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.879 the net, you know what all that means. There's going to be a 155 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.399 mix of virtual and IRL in real life. Activities will be revealed over the 156 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:54.840 eight week camp including high score competitions, scavenger hunts, creative projects, trivia, 157 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.320 and special apparel and accessory drops. Let me just ask you this. 158 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.440 Can you really call it a summer camp? If it's eight weeks long, 159 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.679 that sounds like a semester, That sounds like a chore. I don't want 160 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:11.360 to do anything for eight weeks. Nah, you're not a gamer, though, 161 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:15.320 that's true. That's true. I haven't been a gamer since I played 162 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.360 an Atari. I never had an Atari, but I played Atario with my 163 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.159 friend across the street. I had in a television. Yeah, Elver's making 164 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.159 me feel ancient here. I actually had in my swinging Bachelor Pat and Seattle 165 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:31.519 a Donkey Kong cocktail machine. I can't go wrong. No, I feel 166 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.440 like two hundred years old now though well it was only like fifty years ago, 167 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.480 so yeah, that was fresh for all of us. But my son 168 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.399 would have been into this, like when he was younger, he would probably 169 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.919 wanted to attend some rather than going to an actual camp. As much as 170 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.440 he's into gaming, he would have loved something like this. And as you 171 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.759 know, the Atari Summer Camp is inspired by the Atari operated computer camps from 172 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.600 aspiring programmers that ran in the nineteen eighties, the camps blended a comprehensive computer 173 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:03.159 education and programming curriculum with a more additional camp experience including social activities, sports, 174 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.480 swimming, music, and arts. So it's not just programming and playing 175 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.440 games. There's a there's a degree of physicality with it. There's a full 176 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.919 uh. The Atari Club is an expression of Atari's history, it's present, 177 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.399 and its future. It's a nexus for connecting with fans and partners and together 178 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.679 exploring Atari and collaborating on future projects. And here's another example. We talked 179 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:30.519 about this before. Usually the company which has the first success doesn't have the 180 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:37.120 lasting success. When you think about a home gaming console, Atari was it. 181 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.159 It was the first one, and it was huge, and then it 182 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.399 disappeared. Don't forget Pond Well, but that was a game. When I'm 183 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:50.080 talking about a console where you had cartridges and cassettes in the way that changed 184 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.399 the way that we had We left the physical arcade and could play versions of 185 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.399 arcade games at home. Oh my god, it was like we were living 186 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.200 in the future. Are you kidding? It was the best of times and 187 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.919 the best of times. There was no downside to it at all, even 188 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:11.720 though the graphics were prehistoric. They were two dimensional basic blocks and bricks, 189 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:15.360 but it made the most out of it. Also, Donkey Kong was really 190 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.440 hard. Pac Man I found you could get some expertise and make a quarter 191 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:24.360 go for a while. Oh yeah, but I mean the stand up vertical 192 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.240 arcade games. There was no replacing them, but you still could have that 193 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.120 fun playing games and versions of them at home. Like you had a missile 194 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.960 command in the arcade and you had a missile command on Atari. Oh those 195 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.559 are also hard missile command. To give you a breakdown, Well, I 196 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.480 hated some of those games because no matter what you were going to lose, 197 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:48.639 it was just a matter of time. You always be an Asteroids. Whatever 198 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.279 you were gonna lose, you're only gonna get but so High Galaga, you 199 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:56.840 were gonna lose. That was my frustrating There was like you never got to 200 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.440 a boss level where you won the game. Twenty six hundred did that though. 201 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.799 The twenty six hundred when when it started getting more and more advanced, 202 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.399 that is what what kept us out of the arcade is when the game stepped 203 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.679 up and the graphics started looking good. That is when it was next Level 204 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.159 fifty fifty two hundred yes, yes, that that's when it was like, 205 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:22.519 okay, Pitfall and right, you know dig Doug all the drag and dragons 206 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.759 like stuff like that was like, that's next level for us. Dig Doug 207 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:31.879 also pretty hard. In fact, I'll admit this as a fully grown adult, 208 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.679 I went on a dig Dug thing like last year, and I wouldn't 209 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.559 quit until I reached a certain score. That game is not easy, but 210 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.360 a Cubert. I hated Cubert. Cubert is tough too and irritating. I 211 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:52.000 liked Defender, especially on Atari and in the Arcade and also Zaxxon. Oh 212 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:56.279 you may not remember Zaxon. You play that. It was like a three 213 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.559 dimensional game where you're trying to fly, almost like to these Tetris type openings. 214 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:06.840 It was really hard, but there was a reasonable version of it on 215 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:10.519 Atari, and yeah, it was great. It was great back then. 216 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.840 There's no way that kids today would look at that. It's like you actually 217 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:18.919 spent time play because it was ridiculously prehistoric. But yeah, and it's weird 218 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.480 because for as much as I played computer games back then, I don't have 219 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.159 any desire to do them now. My computer games are other things now. 220 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.519 I like doing other things with my time. I feel like I'm wasting time 221 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.679 just playing games. I have no games on my phone zero. I just 222 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:38.759 don't play games now. I don't mind like stat games that are kind of 223 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.399 running in the background, like fantasy football, those types of things, I 224 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.679 don't have to devote a lot of time and it can just kind of do 225 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:49.159 its own thing. But to sit there and be a captive audience to a 226 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.080 game for three or four hours at a time, no, can't do it. 227 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.159 Well, that's what happens. I'll get wrapped up in a game and 228 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.879 I'll lose a couple of days, four days days, yes, And at 229 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:00.240 the end of that, I'll think, what do I retain of this? 230 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.680 What is this worth? It's not like reading a great book or seeing a 231 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.119 couple of great movies. It's just kind of done when it's done right. 232 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:14.240 And I never developed that gene in adulthood, Like I never got into the 233 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:19.119 whole Xbox Sony PlayStation, none of that. And the games are tremendous. 234 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:26.000 They are wowsers as far as the capabilities and functionality, and I could admire 235 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:27.720 them, but I have no desire to play them none. Well, I 236 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:33.599 still play those first and third person shooters but at a certain point they're all 237 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.920 the same. See, and I never got into the shooters never. I 238 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.759 like the games like Wizardry, the role playing games. You'd have attributes and 239 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:47.279 you could put together teams of people. But that was it. Those are 240 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:49.839 the games that appealed to me and that grew out of the I would say, 241 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:56.519 the beginning computer revolution and BBS bulletin board systems, not the cartridge games 242 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.960 of the of the Atari years. So you don't have a console at home. 243 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.839 I hadn't. I had in television. But now you don't know now, 244 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:08.039 Mark, you're a gamer. Now you game currently right now, not 245 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.279 as much as I used to. I only have a PS four. I 246 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:14.359 don't have a five. There you go, there it is. I only 247 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.119 have a four, not a five. I don't have the latest console nothing, 248 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.599 all right, I don't have the time for a PS anything, PS 249 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:30.519 prostage for you, right, Okay, fair enough? Call back? Okay 250 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.599 if you open your mouth any wider when you do that, your teeth are 251 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.720 gonna fall right out. Come on, no, so they you can't be 252 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:45.079 goaded into a rim shot. What the hell is wrong with you? Him? 253 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.400 Scold you like that, he's not your boss. Just later, with 254 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.519 Mokelly. Can if I answer sported with love everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 255 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:55.000 And we have a NASA update. They're investing in our rocket that could get 256 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:59.920 humans to Mars and back in two months, two months, be home in 257 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:04.359 time for dinner. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI 258 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:10.200 AM six forty. Growing up as a kid, I loved space exploration, 259 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.079 the idea of it. I was a Space Shuttle kid. I was too 260 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:18.640 young to remember the Apollo missions. I got to see all of the Space 261 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:23.160 Shuttle missions and the development of the Space Shuttle. But we didn't go anywhere. 262 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.039 We didn't go to the Moon, we didn't go to Mars, we 263 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.599 didn't go anywhere cool. We just kind of launched, you know, rotated 264 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.200 the Earth a few times, and then we came back and landed. I 265 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:40.160 wanted us to explore, explore farther out into the reaches of space space. 266 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:45.319 But the but the difficulty was that we did not technologically have the propulsion available 267 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:51.799 to do it. To get to Mars would mean an extended trip in which 268 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:57.000 astronauts would be exposed to ungodly amounts of radiation, and it probably would be 269 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:02.400 a one way trip. It would take too long to get to Mars and 270 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:06.839 unlikely that they would be able to get astronauts back. So up until now 271 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:14.160 it's been a fool's errand in that regard more imagination than anything. And if 272 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:21.519 we could ever develop the propulsion side and get astronauts to and from Mars quicker 273 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:29.079 than Mars becomes more of a likely destination. Now there is the pulsed plasma 274 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:34.759 rocket, which in theory could propel a ship up to one hundred thousand miles 275 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:41.200 per hour. NASA has invested seven hundred and twenty five thousand dollars, which 276 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.000 is a paltry sum, but they've invested about three quarters of a million dollars 277 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:52.200 in a new rocket system that, if it does as advertise, could solve 278 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:57.279 one of the major obstacles in regard to sending humans to Mars, just trying 279 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:03.920 to shorten the travel time. Currently, a round trip to Mars would take 280 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:08.720 almost two years, a year there and a year back. All that radiation 281 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:15.480 exposure in between, there's not enough shielding. All that radiation in between most 282 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:21.119 likely would kill you just on the way there. There's solar radiation, there's 283 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:26.839 cosmic radiation, there's the harmful effects of zero gravity, the isolation being in 284 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:32.440 that small tube or whatever it is for a year each way, and then 285 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:37.240 there's just the i would say, the harsh elements of the Mars atmosphere. 286 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.400 It's least likely, it's very unlikely that astronauts would survive the journey, much 287 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:49.319 less survive Mars because space radiation is the biggest threat astronauts who spend just six 288 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:56.680 months in space I'm saying in space low orbit, not actually traveling anywhere, 289 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.319 but just low orbit, they are exposed to roughly the same amount of radiation 290 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:10.119 as one thousand chest X rays one thousand just sitting up on the space station. 291 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:15.319 It's almost like if you go to the International Space Station and spend a 292 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:21.880 good six months there, you have more than quadrupled your risk for cancer or 293 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.960 nervous system damage, bone loss, heart disease. And that's just a short 294 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.240 list of staying in space. Because when you're in space, you don't have 295 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.519 the benefit of the protection of our atmosphere, which usually blocks out most of 296 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.720 the cosmic in space radiation. In space, you're just out there and you're 297 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:44.480 just just sucking it all in. But if you get to Mars, quicker, 298 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.119 less time, there's less exposure to that radiation instead of the two year 299 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:56.640 journey. But about this new technology, it would be another twenty years before 300 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:02.480 this technology could be fully developed, tested and actually put into use. Twenty 301 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:07.599 years, so that makes Mark Ronner about eighty seven by the time this is 302 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.440 actually a real thing. If I can hear you in here, oh, 303 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:14.279 I'm sorry, just making sure that you're listening. Well. This new propulsion, 304 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:21.440 theorized propulsion system. It uses pulses of superheated plasma to generate tremendous levels 305 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:26.160 of thrust and it's currently in phase two of development and it's funded by a 306 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:32.359 NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts Program. The Phase two study is scheduled to begin this 307 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:37.119 month and is focused on optimizing the engine design, performing proof of concept experiments, 308 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:44.079 and designing a PPR powered shield shit a spaceship for human missions to Mars. 309 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.799 And this will probably be something for Elma's children or grandchildren, not for 310 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.119 you of me. Mark, Well, but who doesn't like tremendous levels of 311 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:57.799 thrust? Though, honestly, Elbert, no, that's just a double ententent. 312 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:03.079 That's not like intimidate. You don't have to do that I would say 313 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:08.759 this most technology is beyond our years. I think the next major advancement in 314 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:15.000 thrust is probably beyond our lifetimes. We're not going to reach interstellar light speed 315 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.680 anytime soon. That way, at your age, you're never going to have 316 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:23.680 an advancement in thrust. No, there we go. Goodness, gracious, 317 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:27.759 it's about time. Yes, well, they're they're estimating if everything were to 318 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:34.799 work as theorized, this spacecraft carrying four people or six people could travel roughly 319 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.839 one hundred thousand miles per hour, and the PPR rocket would have to slow 320 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.160 down significantly to enter orbit. So that's the thing, you know, when 321 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.279 you have one hundred thousand miles an hour in speed, you have to develop 322 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.759 some sort of space break to slow down. Yeah, physics don't work the 323 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:52.920 way you see them in Star Wars. No, not at all. It's 324 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.359 not like you can just slow down and break and hit that curve like they 325 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.960 do in Star Wars. You can't have a dog fight. You don't hear 326 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.720 your stuff. No, you don't hear stuff. You don't hear the lasers 327 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.880 in the shooting and explosions, none of that. The Star Wars has never 328 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:10.480 really been big on actual science oh, Star Wars is fantasy. Star Trek 329 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:15.039 is science fiction. Yeah, the closest thing I would say to science as 330 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.240 far as movies go. And two thousand and one Interstellar was pretty good. 331 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.680 I'm not so sure I agreed with the whole bookcase thing, but the ending 332 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.839 was. It was great until they got to the third act. Put it 333 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.200 that way. Yeah, character motivations, none of it made sense. Way, 334 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.480 mate, You're gonna leave your daughter that you were trying the whole movie 335 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.880 to get back to, who's get old and getting ready to die, to 336 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.200 chase after this chick who's on the other side of the galaxy, who doesn't 337 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:45.440 even like you, who's obsessed about some other astronaut who died on said rock 338 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.599 on the other side of the galaxy. And you can just take a spaceship 339 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.599 on a joy ride. Just pick one, just pick one, and just 340 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.000 take one from the hangar and go, and gonna leave all the new family 341 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.519 members that you never met. In other words, your daughter, her children, 342 00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:02.880 her grandchildren, great great grandchildren. They had all of a conversation of 343 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:07.880 four minutes, and he was out chasing some ass. You didn't see Neil 344 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.359 Armstrong doing that, not at all. And he was a real American hero, 345 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.519 not Matthew McConaughey, He's a fake American hero. It's Later with Mo 346 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.119 Kelly. We'll check you in with George Norri Coast Coast AM. In just 347 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.240 a moment k IF I Am six forty. We are live everywhere on the 348 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:37.960 iHeartRadio app k IF I Am six forty. It is Later with Mo Kelly, 349 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.039 Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Coming up in just a few moments 350 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.839 will be Coast to Coast AM with George Norri, who joins me right now 351 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.480 on the line. Good evening, sir, What a weekend. Mo huh. 352 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:53.720 That's one way to describe it. It's one thing to experience things in 353 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:59.519 real time, but it's it's like the world is speeding up in a way 354 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:03.359 which I can can't even comprehend. In our lifetime, we have been through 355 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.119 so much stuff, haven't we. It seems like history moved at a snail's 356 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.359 pace in comparison. Anyway. On the show tonight, after our News of 357 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.559 the day, which we will cover the big story of course, we're going 358 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.119 to talk about forbidden archaeology. Then later on a little walk on the Paranormal 359 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.400 side on Coast to coast. All right, I'll be sure to be tuning 360 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.440 in on the way home, sir. Thanks Mom, And before we get 361 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.480 out of here, just want to remind you if there's anything that you missed 362 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.960 a part of tonight's show. Let's say you want to pick up your horoscope 363 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.359 and didn't hear it, or you want to hear my thoughts about the Trump 364 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:40.119 assassination attempt. You didn't hear me obviously on Saturday or Sunday, and you're 365 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.960 curious what I thought about it. You can check that out on the podcast. 366 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.599 It was the full first hour of the show where I laid out where 367 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.519 I was, what I thought in the moment, what we've learned since the 368 00:27:52.680 --> 00:28:00.880 larger debate about rhetoric and political violence, what path we're on now, what 369 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:06.680 the future may hold. I address all of that. I talked about how 370 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.359 what may look like as the eventual winner of the presidential race right now? 371 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:17.400 If you look at history, it could go either way. Sometimes we get 372 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:22.519 a little ahead of ourselves. Twenty sixteen was a perfect example. Nineteen sixty 373 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.440 eight was another example. And I draw those parallels if you want to check 374 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.720 that out. That's all in the podcast. That Tall Sharp producer of the 375 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:37.079 program is putting together right now, and as I was just talking to George 376 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.920 Norri talking about the incredible times that we're living in. I'm a student of 377 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:48.160 history. I love history. I love looking at the present through the lens 378 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:55.160 of history. What comparisons can be made, what parallels are there, what 379 00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:00.960 can we learn from previous events which were similar to what we're appearencing right now. 380 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:06.400 And even though there are some parallels, nineteen sixty eight is obvious parallel, 381 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:12.519 there's really nothing like the times we're in at this moment, and we 382 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:19.920 probably won't have the right words to explain it or the perspective to best understand 383 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.720 it for another twenty thirty years. You usually have to go way down the 384 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:30.319 road and look back to best understand what is happening in this moment. I'm 385 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.759 sure similar words were said in nineteen sixty eight, given the unrest in the 386 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:41.519 country, given the assassinations, the riots, the political acrimony. From what 387 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.920 I understand, it took a good twenty years or so well into the nineteen 388 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:52.400 eighties to best understand how much tumult was going on in nineteen sixty eight. 389 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.079 And mind you, that's after the Civil rights struggles of the Voting Rights Act 390 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.359 and the Civil Rights Act. That's after the Human miss crisis. I tell 391 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:07.720 you America was a mess in the nineteen sixties, but you can make an 392 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:15.039 apt comparison to America in the twenty twenties as far as the amount of dysfunction 393 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:21.920 that we are dealing with on a daily basis, the inability to seemingly get 394 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:27.480 the easy stuff right when it comes to elections or basic getting along. Everything 395 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:34.319 is a congressional inquiry. Everything is a fight on Capitol Hill. Nothing is 396 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:45.319 easy. We have a dispute about everything from Christmas to Starbucks, to children's 397 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.880 entertainment to education. We can't agree on anything, and I'm quite sure people 398 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.079 will say it was because of the Democrats. So some people will say because 399 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.799 of the Republicans. I'll let you all fight that out. Honestly, I'm 400 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:03.559 tired and really, really tired of what America is right now. And I 401 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.240 was talking to a younger person who was asking, like, what I thought 402 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.799 about this, Because if you're not over the age of twenty twenty five, 403 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.160 you have no reference point, you have no perspective. What you're going through 404 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.680 now is normality. This is what you expect this is what you know. 405 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:25.160 This is all you know. You know what's happening on Capitol Hill. You 406 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:29.400 expect that that gridlock, that's what it is, that's always what is going 407 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.599 to be. And I remember a time it wasn't like that. In the 408 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:37.079 nineteen eighties. You may have had Ronald Reagan as president, but you also 409 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.880 had Tip O'Neil as a Speaker of the House, and somehow, some way, 410 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.599 they managed to get things done, they managed to move the country forward. 411 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.039 And those days seem so long ago. I don't know if we'll ever 412 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:48.440 get back to that. But I was speaking to a young person and trying 413 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.759 to tell them that what's happening right now is not always like it used to 414 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.599 be, and I don't know if we'll ever get back to that point. 415 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.799 I don't know what you think of this moment, mark, but they're oftentimes 416 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:13.799 when I'm very dissuaded and pessimistic about whether will successfully navigate this moment without decapitate, 417 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.720 to capitate decapitating ourselves in the process. Yeah, I can't say I'm 418 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.039 exactly becoming more of an optimist as we go through these things. But you 419 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.880 mentioned wanting to keep an eye on history and I'm totally on the same page 420 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.440 as you when it comes to that, and as much of a grotesque cesspool 421 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.279 of disinformation that Twitter is, I pick close attention to historian Twitter. Yes, 422 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.240 some historians I follow. Kevin Cruz isn't on there anymore, but he's 423 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:43.480 terrific, and he's probably not on there because it's turned into such a sesspool. 424 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.720 Timothy Snyder is another good one to follow. But just look at history 425 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:54.400 and Twitter, and they have It's not opinion. These are experts who know 426 00:32:54.599 --> 00:33:00.440 history and will tell you what we're going through now, what it was embols, 427 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.640 and you know the degree to which you should be alarmed what people have 428 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.079 done in the past. It's very instructive to me. Well, let me 429 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.359 put it this way. And I know you are acting in a news capacity, 430 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.240 so I know you choose your words very wisely. I don't have to 431 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:19.640 choose them wisely. I always say history doesn't necessarily repeat itself, but it 432 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:29.519 damn sure rhymes. There are some real reminiscent moments, rhetoric occurrences which are 433 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:34.680 happening right now, and you only best appreciate that when you have the historical 434 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.359 foundation to recognize it. If you haven't studied it, then you're not going 435 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:43.160 to recognize it. It's not going to seem eerily similar unless you know to 436 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.440 what it's similar to. That's exactly right. Ruth ben Giott is another one 437 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:51.720 too, and she's yeah, she's a good one, an expert on totalitarianism 438 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.799 authoritarian governments. And I just you know, it takes somebody pretty talented to 439 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.680 make history come alive for you. And I was lucky enough to have a 440 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:05.160 couple of professors shout out to Leroy Ashby here who really were good at stringing 441 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.079 things together and making you understand the significance of how A ultimately led to Z. 442 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.840 And this is a good time to study that stuff, to read that 443 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:17.199 stuff. And boyd, when stuff is happening at the intensity and speed that 444 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.400 things are happening now, it hardly seems like homework. It seems like you're 445 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.559 arming yourself to prepare to understand what we're going through in this moment. Yeah, 446 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.679 And it's never about today. It's never about what happened today, what 447 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:35.159 happened yesterday. There's a progression. There is a series of events which led 448 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:40.199 up to a certain moment or a certain politician or a certain occurrence, like 449 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.920 going back to the assassination tempt on President Trump, it wasn't just what happened 450 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.960 on Saturday. There was a lot of stuff which led up to it. 451 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.519 And I'm not talking about in the conspiracy sense. I'm not talking about in 452 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.719 the shooter's life. I'm talking about the totality of society. You know, 453 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.559 the violence that we see perpetrated on Saturday is not new. And if we're 454 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.199 going to talk about violent rhetoric, we have to talk about gun violence in 455 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.840 America. We have to talk about all these things which are happening simultaneous to 456 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:16.719 what happened on Saturday. And although we don't want Saturday to ever happen again, 457 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.599 it probably will happen again because we fully embrace violence and violent rhetoric in 458 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:28.639 America, and we don't have that conversation. We're too busy talking about condemning 459 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.559 the Democrats for what they said on Tuesday and not talking about what has been 460 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:37.360 said for the past two years, the past four years, and the things 461 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.960 which have happened that you were okay with. But since it didn't happen to 462 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.719 your preferred candidate or your preferred party, then it's no big deal. Like 463 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.880 I said in the first segment, a lot of folks were laughing at Paul 464 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.039 Pelosi getting hit with a hammer. Don't think I forgot, And those same 465 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.639 people are saying today, oh my gosh, we need to tone down the 466 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:02.400 rhetoric. Rhetoric, really really. There are a lot of self appointed hall 467 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.440 monitors that I've seen, and I've been doing as much reading, watching, 468 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:12.679 listening as I possibly can, and they almost convey that it's impolite to bring 469 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.000 up things that we know in the recent passage. Yes, don't ever let 470 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:20.880 anyone tell you to do that, ever, because the opposite is true. 471 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.639 Right now, we need to be mindful of what's gone before, and you 472 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:28.039 just can't have an honest discussion about this stuff unless you bring everything into it. 473 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.000 Well, but see, the thing is, you're presupposing that people want 474 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.519 to have an honest discussion. I don't think so. I think people want 475 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:39.880 to be politically right, small r in the moment so they can win an 476 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.440 argument on Twitter, on social media, not actually getting to the heart of 477 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.199 the matter. If you're only worried about political violence since Saturday, I can't 478 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.239 take you seriously. No, it's a form of gas lighting, intimidation, 479 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.760 bullying. You've got to put it into the big picture. And anybody who 480 00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.760 tells you now is not a good time to talk about x Y or z 481 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.960 or politicized x Y or Z. Those aren't serious people. You shouldn't listen 482 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.679 to them, not at all. But you can listen to us. There 483 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.599 you go. Welcome back tomorrow, same time. 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