It's just like the old radio show with the addibility to swear a lot from
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Brahm. It's bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how
we spread the word about the Pirates ship Mark, the Pirate Soldiers here,
Kevin's here tonight and Sad News Today. The original The Godfather, the Godfather
of being canceled and coming back passed away. How you are one of them?
I yeah, it sit exactly. Oh you talk about Pube Herman.
Yeah, oh, Hube Herman. I would say he's the godfather of being
canceled and coming back because yeah, quietly it was him, and uh he
didn't say anything really about the cancer that he had. No, no,
kept that quiet. He was seventies. Yeah, the other one just had
had cancer and nobody knew about it. Um comic uh uh SNL made fun
of the O J think so badly that they came doing to go. If
you don't stop, we're gonna fire you. Oh nor Norm McDonald McDonald,
Yeah, you didn't hear it? He didn't know. No, that's awesome.
I laughed, because, yeah, like the Norm was sick and no
one knew he didn't he did not know. No, Norm didn't talk about
it exactly. It kind of went under the radar. And then they tried
to do something because he was working on a on a stand up special and
he did like a dry run from like his computer, and he filmed it,
and so they took that it's like him sitting at his desk in front
of his his PC, and they put that out on Netflix with different commentary
at points from other comics and stuff. I didn't play that well because you
know, it was still kind of in its rough form, the special,
and I think if he had done it in the theater and then it probably
would have killed. The tribute they did to him was hilarious, and Jeff
Ross and Sage had all sorts of well, I'm sure it was great.
I'm sure it was great. Yeah, But so pee wee Herman. So
this is where they write. Last night we said farewell to Paul Rumins,
an iconic American actor, comedian, writer, and producer who's beloved character Pee
wee Herman delighted generations of children and adults with his positivity, whimsy and belief
in the importance of kindness. And then they said, Paul bravely and privately
fowk cancer for years with his trademark to nacity and wit, A gifted and
prolific talent, he will forever live in the comedy pantheon and in our hearts
as a treasured friend, a man a remarkable character and generosity of spirit.
Had everything is negotiable, pee wee. I wouldn't sell my bike for all
the money in the world, not for one hundred billion, million trillion dollars.
Then you're crazy. I know you are. But what am I?
You're a near I know you are, But what am I? You're an
idiot? I know you are. I happen to be just slightly too old
that I would This would fucking annoy me when I would happen. Yeah,
to watch the show, because I always thought it was like the great acid
dream, like he had. The everything was zigzag doors, big bauffant hairs,
the chairs, the talks. Yeah yeah, Laurence Fishburn too, Yeah,
Cowboy Curtis. Did you ever see the movie Legend of Billy Jean?
No, it's this do you ever see it, Kevin, it's just seem
it's uh, it's with Christian Slater when he was young. It was it
was a vigilanti movie. Well, anyways, he came out at the same
time as Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Okay, it was the same fucking movie.
It was the same story. He gets his bike stolen, peewe herman
gets his bike stolen. Yeah, and the same thing in this In this
movie, the kid gets his bike stolen and that's what starts this whole war
with with this town they live in. Okay, so did this Uh,
did anybody get accused of ripping each other off? Or no? Well,
I can't remember Peter Pee's Big Adventure, but this one was all of a
sudden they couldn't get the bike back and turned it into something more and yeah,
and the girl sounds like they took a slightly different thing. It did,
but it was just darker, a little darker. But just the gist
of the movie was the story was kind of the same. So you know,
he had that sex scandal in the early nineties, which I always thought
was one of the shittiest things to do because he was in a private theater.
Uh down in Saracel to Florida where he was. He was ra down
there and in nineteen ninety one detectives went in. It was the Triple X
South Trail Cinema. Okay, now, I don't know about you guys.
Would you ever go to a movie theater to watch porn? No? No,
And but remember you got to get out of your head. That is
twenty twenty three, and you have porn anytime you want it, on any
device you want it. It's true, right, I mean it is.
It's a it's prolific, it's available, it's there. But at the time
it wasn't as But I still think you could. You could go get a
VHS, right, you could look at a magazine and I think magazine out
of the stores. Yeah, back, I know, but even that's weird,
right, even that I find weird. Boots, what about did you
do a buddy booth to me? No? No, Well they were like
buddy booths because I once went back there and there were a bunch of a
bunch of people waiting around, and I think it was a meet up spot.
It was Ontario Video News out in Ontario and Root one oh four and
I was in there a little buzzed, and I was looking for some props
for my buddy's bachelor party. I was the best man in his wedding.
So all of a sudden, I'm walking around I don't know, and there
was the booze in the back and the light was red and when turned green
or something like, another guy went in. Well, there were two guys
in there, Like, I didn't know what was so I was like,
man, I don't want to be here. And then all of a sudden,
some guy started kind of following me around the store. So then I
buy a video with the biggest boobs I can find on it, like this
woman, you just got the biggest chest. And I'm like trying to go,
hey, hey hetero like and I buy it and then I'm leaving and
I can hear him walking. So I try to go out a different door
and I get around in my car and there he standing in front of my
car. When I put on the head lights mark, I fucking almost shit
my pants. I mean I could hear the gravel crunching as he's coming to
me. I dropped my keys. I had a little rabbit at the time
I dropped my keys. I'm trying to lock the door. I get in
there, I turn on the lights of guy stander. Probably nothing would have
happened. I was so fucking scared. I should be. I spun out,
kicked up all this dust, and went the wrong way on one oh
four. I was going east in the westbound lanes, or so or I
was going west in the eastbound lanes. So the you know one oh fours
were coming at you. Yeah, well they would have been. There was
very little traffic at the time. And when I finally realized that because somebody's
beeping their horn and went because it's two lanes, so they went the opposite
lane. I just cut through the guard rail where there was a break and
got on the right way. But I was so freaked out. See that's
an old that I should have worked it. I should have worked the show
World. I wish I would have worked there for a while, so I
would add stories. I should have taken that fucking job. He went to
see you should have. He went to see the movies Catalina five, Oh
no, nothing of that Tiger Shark, Nurse Nancy, and Turn Up the
Heat was the triple bill that night. But son, there's officers in there,
and they got three guys for exposing themselves in a dark theater. I'm
like that, that's such a shitty sting. So now it hits that rewere
and Paul Rubins was honestly the first guy to be canceled. He lost everything.
I think it was NBC stop production or CBS or whoever it was.
It wasn't out long because I did a little dive on us. Today he
was back and had a big comeback and like the next year MTV Awards,
Right, yeah, yeah, I think it was uh yeah, because he
offered to perform children's benefits for the Sheriff's offices if the charges were dropped.
However, department spokesman said at the time that the deputies did not feel they
had enough probable cause to charge him with attempted bribery. But I think he
was trying to go, I'll do you know, I'll do anything, And
he then in a two thousand and four interview said, well, obviously I
wasn't thinking, you know, uh, the Peewee Herman Show, Pee's Big
Adventure, pee Wee's Playhouse. I certainly wasn't thinking to myself, you're a
children's host, your your show is still on television. I wasn't making those
lists in my head. I felt like they were insinuating, Like well,
I was sitting in you know, a darkened movie theater in my peewee suit.
They didn't seem like a crime to me. It didn't seem like anyone
was anybody's business. And then he got arrested. Almost to the day,
today is July thirty, first that we're taping this. He was arrested July
twenty nine, nineteen ninety one. Wow. Yeah, let me ask you.
Let me ask you a question. Could you jerk off in a dark
movie theater? Uh? If there weren't a lot of people around? Probably,
Okay, probably, Yes, that's a that's a good question. I
mean, maybe it's not a good question, but it's a valley question.
I couldn't. You couldn't do it, like you'd have performance anxiety and there's
no way in hell. Um, yeah, I think I could. Please.
I'm all right, I'll go ahead and say I started. Only place
did I ever jerked off was in the bathroom at uh the radio station.
We were on Winton Road. You're kid there? Yeah, why because this
girl came in before weeze went on. Yeah, and she wanted tickets,
and I think it was tickets to like Don Henley was doing some concert like
Okay in a farm, and she said she would take her clothes off for
me if you got her tickets, if I got her tickets. So I
went right in probably your office, still your tickets and game her. It's
good. So I went in and give you the shed show you. Oh
yeah, she went totally she went totally naked. Yeah. Yeah, and
that was it. She put her close back on, she got her tickets
and left. Oh shit, what time in the morning was this. This
had to be five thirty, five thirty because it was before weees was there?
Oh my god. So in the wake of this guy's arrest, Paul
Rubens, CBS pulled Peewee's playhouse Disney was doing. Uh he was suspended.
He was the voice of like their two studio tour. He was the narrator.
They stopped that toys arrest, removed all Pewee toys from the store.
Like he was the original canceled guy. And guess who came to his defense?
Oh no, bullshit. Think who went from like the most beloved to
the biggest villain? You got it, Bill Cosby, Bill Cosby said,
whatever Rubens is done, this is being blown all out of proportion. It
probably jerked off together. Did you know what was Cindy law Perry who sanging
that theme song this is your true colors all over my face? No?
That that the theme song to uh pee Wee's Playhouse. Really, yeah,
that's her. This is her if you listen, and she just said it
was a victim list of Currence and she's right, yeah, now you can
hear it, right, you can hear that. That is definitely her.
Uh. Then he did go on uh Conan show a bunch as Paul Rubens
later on, and he sat down and he was asked like, what would
you do if you weren't Peewee? Well, you know, what would you
have done? I'm curious about you know, you've had such a unique career.
You create this character that caught some people's imagination, and and and and
and you're you're so good at what you do. But do you ever think
about what you would have done had you not been an actor, if you'd
gone a different way, if you didn't go into acting, what would you
do? This is going to sound like I'm joking, but this is this
is really what I thought I would wind up doing. I grew up in
Sarasota, Florida, which is the old winter headquarters of Ringling Brothers, and
I always thought I'd wind up in the circus. That's what I thought I
was going to really, Yeah, well, what did you want to do
in the circus? Did you have a specific like? Did you see?
Okay? This is I could do a lot of circus acts. I could
do trapeeze, I could do tight rowe see. I thought I knew you
were going to think did you really? Did you? I mean, did
you seriously? We went to circus camp. There's a circus camp. As
a child, I went to circus camp. About six weeks into the circus
camp, we put on a big show. My parents came there sitting in
the bleachers, and I run out. I got on a little speedo bathing
suit. I'm like maybe twelve. I've got like I get up on the
balance beam. I had a balance beam act. It's fantastic balance beam.
I wish you guys could have seen it. And I had like fire.
I had a ring like that had fire around it. And I blindfold myself
and skipped through the ring and I looked out. My parents were like,
I think it was then they knew. So I always feel like he was
sort of targeted after that as being a bit of a perv because in two
thousand and four, I think they did a whole thing where they went into
his house and they accused him of having child porn. But I believe it
was magazines like an art collection that he had and some of the pictures were
like thirty years old inside these magazines and he wound up having to pay a
one hundred dollar fine. All the charges got dropped, but originally, initially
he was brought up on child pornography possession. It was they couldn't fight enough.
I was reading about that. Yeah, they waited till the last possible
day they could charge him and gave him when they gave him, Yeah,
but because they didn't have enough stuffy. See this is the thing, Like
I always feel like in some way someone had it out for this guy.
I don't know what the fuck he did because the pee Wee Herman thing,
like he tried to bring that to Saturday Night Live, he didn't get on.
It came out of the groundlings and then he did. He did a
series of sold out shows at some theater in LA People loved it, and
somebody goes, let's put this on HBO. And that's where the first Pee
Wee's Playhouse went so and it was done for adults. So that would that
would be the thing. Alex I just didn't realize he was seventy more in
his like late fifties, seventy years old. Yeah, dead. So then
he had one last post, one last official post to Instagram. This is
really him. He wanted to put it out after he died. Please accept
my apology for not going public with what I've been facing in the last six
years. I've always felt a huge amount of love and respect for my friends,
fans, and supporters. I have loved you all so much and enjoyed
making art for you. Good night. What would be your last post?
Like? Fuck you all? I see you know? That would be great?
That would be great. Why wouldn't be fuck you wall? What is
wrong with you? Why? Where? Why? Why? Why would you
get upset about that? What about life? You're basically going fuck you all?
You know? What else would you want me to say? I want
you to say something like you know, soldier on? You know? How
about Mark the Soldier out? No, I like, I'm watching you.
I see you, soldier watching you. I got you. I'm still watching
watching from above. I think it'll be cheap and having or looking probably would
be sure. I think so too, looking or not having. How do
they still have dirty movie theaters anywhere? Like anywhere? Remember there was one
on Monroe Avenue. Yes, there was for years. I always wanted to
go check that out. To me, and we're playing on going there.
We never did that, Yeah, I never did either. I remember seeing
it when I was in college. I was always like intrigue because I heard,
you know, when I heard dirty ship went on in the basement,
it was like the wild sex parties would go on down. Yeah, I
don't know if that was true or not. I've heard about this town.
It's more kinky people like where we are Rochester, New York. I hear
all kinds of shit. Maybe it's every city has this. Maybe there's you
know, people or people or people wherever they are. But I have heard
about all kinds of different parties. I know people who have gotten invited to
places and been told like, hey, you should uh you know, you
wouldn't be you wouldn't believe who's here? And what's going on? All kinds
of shit have you have? You know? No, I'm well, I
don't get invited because I'll talk about it. You're not supposed to talk about
it. You would learn to shut your mouth. Well, you would learn
to shut your mouth for that. I don't know if i'd liked those parties
to be quin I went to that. Now that okay, that I'm with
you. I don't think you say you couldn't jerk off in a in a
dark in theater. I don't know that I could go to a swingers party.
I could go if I could just sort of casually observe. They don't
like that, I know, what do you mean? They don't single?
No, not single. But let's say I went as a couple. Let's
say I found somebody to go with me and I went and I did that.
Now, when I was on the radio, a woman used to call
in, and she was a unicorn. She was the single woman that would
go to like swingers meetups and different things, and she had a specific group
that she would meet with and she she kept saying to me, I should
come and be the bull. So my buddies that I hang out with,
you didn't do it. No, I don't see see I pussy it out
because I pussy it out. I could have been Here's here's what here's what
it would have been with me. Do you ever see these people that like
they're gonna do some kind of thrill seeking thing and they get right up to
the edge and then they fucking they just can't do it, no matter what
if let's say it's bungee jumping. I guarantee, if you talk to a
guy who runs a bungee jumping operation, people get right up to the fucking
edge mark they're, oh, yeah, come out with it, and then
they look over and they go, I can't fucking do it. I just
can't do it. That's where I go, fuck it and I would jump,
But when it comes to this shit, I don't know why I would
get right up to the ABBUTA yeah, right, we're gonna get a lot
of abula. I can't. I can't, I can't do it. Yeah,
No, I don't know why it is. I can you know,
one on one school, even the idea of a threesome. I go,
I've never never even have you ever had? You ever? Know? Really?
Yeah, Kevin A view, No, are you serious? Kevin's two
and a half people already brings himself. You've had a threesome? Yeah,
really like more than one? More than one? Yeah, with U two
women always or sometimes two guys. Sometimes it's a couple of times two guys,
a couple of times two guys. And that doesn't weird you. Well,
it did it? It did it first? Well, so I don't
understand this. You're telling me like you can't because I know because the situation
is a private situation. What we're talking about is a group. Yes,
yes, yes, that's that's the difference. Yeah, but this would even
be a private one. Two Because so then this woman said to me,
listen, if you went to one of these things and there's a unicorn and
the ball, sometimes they get together if they didn't find anybody they wanted to
be with. Right, I don't know, un there's something about it just
kind of sort of skips me up. Yeah. I mean that most people,
most people our age of had threesomes. What are you talking about?
I guarantee if I went out and did a survey, Oh, I guarant
fuck no way. How are you so closed minded? R animals? You've
been you've been, you out of all people should know. I don't believe
people. I'm gonna tell you what I think. I think most people are
full of shit. I think the percentage that have actually had sex some good
point, I think are pretty low. I think most people, especially when
it comes to sex, and in this country in particular, I think we
are very like almost prudish and quite Look, they're busting a guy in a
fucking theater in the early nineties. I mean, it's like shooting fish in
a barrel. That was the biggest bullshit trumped up charge, but got the
guy canceled. They did all that stuff and it meant nothing. Who got
harmed, nobody, nobody. He didn't do anything that. You know,
I think there would maybe a smattering of guys in different corners of the thing.
Nobody, you know what I mean. It's not like there's no hooker,
there was no gay activity. Nothing. Yeah, yeah, threesome.
I can't believe this. Yeah, how many times? I don't know,
really, I don't know. People you met through the radio, people you
knew well, people everything. How does that conversation go? Like I am
curious, like, how does the conversation I'm always that's always my thing.
I'll always say to these guys, I want to be there, Like when
you know they were writing the song, it kind of goes, she's just
sixteen years old. I'm going, he had to start out of twelve,
and somebody in the writers room was going, heyyy, Benny Benny, Benny,
Benny, Betty Bettybey, can we say she's just eighteen eighteen? Please?
And then finally they settle on sixteen. I'm going, how does this
conversation happen? You have a few drinks and then you're hanging out and now
all of a sudden, it just happens. I mean, it's not something
I mean if you plan it, or were you the third in or were
you part of a couple and you brought in a third both both? How
do you have that conversation with your significant other to say was it her idea?
Because if it's her idea, most guys, I think that's how it
is always to make it was to make me happy. This is like I'm
talking, this is thirty years ago. Okay, So it was to make
me happy, to make you happy? Did it make you happy? Yeah?
See here's the other thing. I think I would have like lost it
quick and then I would have been in a refractory period for the next fifteen
to twenty minutes ago. I listen, you guys are gonna have to take
care of yourselves for a while. I'm out. I'm out, and then
I would have been really embarrassed, and then it would have been in my
head and I would never been able to come back. You wouldn't have if
you think that. But I don't think you would have been. Okay,
not when I was younger. Yeah, because it's the nervousness stuff, Like
what if I couldn't get it up because I was so nervous. That happens.
I'm sure it does. Does happen, I'm sure it does. How
about the guys that I guarantee this happens. What about penis envy from one
guy to another that happens. I'm sure it does. I've heard it.
I've heard swingers say that it gets it gets uncomfortable. Oh. I had
some guy freaking walk out I'll put stuff one time because you were so hung
No, not me, What do you mean all pissed off because we were
with his we were with his girlfriend. Yeah, and he just all of
a sudden backed out in the middle of it. So it was just you
and him. No, he backed up the mill, he got pissed and
he laughed. So it just was over right. I'm saying, how many
people were involved in this free so you were? I was a third third
and he got uncomfortable and laughs. Yeah, did you continue the activity?
No? No, no, you still like ruins. The mood it did,
the whole the whole thing was rocked. So let me ask you,
the one that was doing this to make you happy, how long did this
relationship last afterwards? Well, not really too long. I always think that
these things can't work. I think somebody gets jealous. That's just my thinking.
I don't know. Maybe that's narrow minded of me, but I do
I think people get jealous. Yeah, yeah, I mean I have no
jealousy in me at all, though, I don't, you know, And
that's the problem. You get What about like shyness or embarrassment or somebody's got
a better body. Oh yeah, of course, you know what I mean.
And especially with especially with young you know, if you're going with um,
you know, people in their thirties. You know what I'm picturing that
classic Saturday Night Live bit Chippendale's between two people who are no longer on the
planet anymore. Chris Farley and Patrick swayze You got it, Chris Farley and
Patrick swayzey and some guy who's ripped and you're in there trying to bang even
harder. I could see him. Mark, what to answer your earlier question,
Triple X Theater's closest ones are going to be near Scarsdale and White Plains,
so they still exist. There's a whole bunch from down around New York
City. There is they must have. I wonder how they make money.
I mean, think about it. It's it's the Popcorn's fantastic. It's all
right there. I couldn't go into one of those this just in. Did
you know Hillman was Oh did you know Mark watched Pee wee Hermann bang his
wife twice? Doug Felds and that's the funny And that's the funniest guy in
Rochester. Stop, come on that guy. I love that. You don't
mean him a personal Okay, just want to make sure, all right,
we will uh, we'll take a moment um. Mark was defending the show.
It seems like the soldier came out again. The soldier has risen.
Thirty years later, the soldier has risen. We will get to that in
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know that what happened? Al old On let me be misunderstood. So I
think I've been misunderstood you think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I think so for sure, for sure from what I understand,
Uh, Mark was called Mark the Soldier back in the day because Stern
came to town and Mark put on a WE shirt. He wasn't even working
for the show, just a fan and went out and like railed at some
railler Dino. I don't know what help me and Dino are our personal friends
that now after that, so so dumb radio thing is so dumb. But
so that's how you became soldier. And then I so I get wind up.
Well, no, let me let me start here. So Friday night,
Kevin and I had a mandate and we went to dinner in Cobblestone on
me Oh thanks for the invite, fuckers, and we had to row out
some business. Okay, So we're having dinner, and then I left there
and I was going to I said to you, I'm going to drive right
by maul Conres. And I drove. No, I told you I was
going to probably go there. I ended up driving right by maul Conres.
And I had something, a family issue that really took up most of my
time that night and the weekend and everything so even into today. So I
was dealing with that stuff, and during that time, I got a message
from Rizzo, from the Rizzo and Jeff Show. It came on Facebook and
I did see it, and I was just one of those things that at
the timing of it, I thought, I'll get back to this because it
wasn't of importance to me at that moment because other things started to come up.
Saturday came around, I was involved in a bunch of stuff. I
taping a podcast for somebody else That night was we're building a network, so
I'm trying to do that. I had other stuff going on and then and
that Sunday was like Kevin knows, and I can't go into some detail,
but it was a lot of personal. This stuff was personal outside of there.
So it ate up all my time and I did not get back to
these guys. But I didn't think it was that big a deal. What
did he What did he want? I think he said something about, hey,
we'd love to come on your podcast or whatever. So then, um,
now I have been talked about, this podcast, has been talked about
on other radio shows other than iHeart radio shows, and I have gotten hundreds
of messages for this. I only was getting like one person was sending me,
but one person who's like deeply invested, because any closed that these guys
Rizzo and Jeff do and in there, so I couldn't. I couldn't follow
any of this stuff. Well no, so I was trying to figure out
like okay, And again I didn't go seek out the original video and maybe
that would have given me more context. I'm only looking at clips of videos
that just one person was sending me that that was it, and in it
they're saying things like he never liked us, and I'm going, what now,
I learned a good lesson here, and I'm serious, I learned a
lesson from this whole exchange with the Rizzono and Jeff or I'm not really an
exchange because I didn't do anything. I haven't responded. I still haven't responded
back. But what I learned was, so if you asked me about Rizzo
and Jeff when I was at iHeart Er, even after, I would have
said that they were talented and interesting. Is how I would have described talented
and interesting. And as I had said to Weez, who then said it
on a microphone, I said, these guys are hard working man. They're
out there all the time I had. I thought I talked them. I
thought I went into their studio. I know I went into their studio and
said hello. I know I told Rizzo that there was an open door policy.
I know that we used to have Rizzo on for cross talk. I
probably didn't say coming up next Rizzo when Jeff. That was something I did
hear in one of the clips that was sent to me, and I thought,
oh, yeah, I didn't say that about any show. And it
wasn't done to slight them in any way, shape or form. It just
wasn't it just it wasn't at all. I think that I had talked to
and I hope I'm not speaking, but the way I remember it, and
I think people's memories change over time of events, but the way I remembered,
I thought Rizzo would come in and I said something about Jeff and he
goes, he doesn't like to he doesn't really like to do that. So
so but I would have thought my relationship with them was fine. I never
didn't not like them at all. I actually spoke. I actually called their
show once on my way home. I listened to them always on the way
home, and anytime I saw them Now I would say that when I was
at iHeart, I was stretched I will. I will say this, and
somebody can challenge me on it if they want to. Out of all the
talent that iHeart had in that building, I was stretched the thinnest. I
don't think there was another radio on air personality stretched as thin as I was.
I think there were people that were stretched thin. But I was doing
stuff for Wham Weeze's show, the Miranda di Tulio show, and then I
was doing all the national shows, right, so so I was stretched thin.
And I had talked to Rizzo and Jeff in the hallway by the elevators
outside the bathroom once, all about voice tracking, and I think Jeff had
done a lot of that when he was either in Philly or New York City.
I mean, these guys had worked in big places. I had no
I've never there was nothing. So the only thing I took away from that
is, you know what you never know how you're perceived. And when I
remember when my kids were little, you always you know your first kids,
you read books and different things how to try to not be the parent your
parents weren't. Maybe I don't know, so I remember reading something that said,
you're never perceived the way you think you are. If you're ever interacting
with your kids or disciplining your kid, you should film yourself. I think
I did it once and then never did it again, but just to see
kind of from the kid's perspective, what is the kids seeing? So my
point being that no one ever sees how they're being So I don't know,
I thought I this was like completely caught me off guard with the he doesn't
like me, he doesn't like us, So that that surprised me. I
had no idea at all that that surprised me. You better like us,
you better like me and Dan, no, it doesn't like me. That's
not true at all. That none of that's true. But I'm saying like,
so, so that made me I go, boy, you know,
and here are two guys who were coming into a city. And I gotta
tell you, those guys stepped into they were replacing a show that replaced the
show. They were starting out underground. You know what I'm saying. They
were starting out underground. They they really got into a tough position, but
they were out there. All I used to tell them, like when they
did the what they would go interview, the what do they call them,
the guy, the natty daddy, the natty daddies. And I used to
tell them like and they did natty daddy football picks. I think we talked
about that once. I had so. So No, I never dislike,
no, like, yeah, I thought I thought that was it. I
did. No, It's not even I thought I liked them. I thought
I made it clear that I did. I didn't know, you know what
I'm saying, like and and okay, you know I had and I have
kids and stuff and different things going on and a you know, a wife
I'm not with were separated, I mean know, so there was just different
things, that was all it was. So I never thought so. I
never thought anything of that at all. I just didn't so that that really
surprised me. Yeah, well we were well I was gonna say, was
you know, what are they doing? Are they doing a podcast or they
just doing feacebook left? I don't know what they're doing. I wasn't.
I wasn't sure either. So I'll say this when um, when things change
for me, and uh, from what I understand, they have a different
interpretation of it. I only say this. I go, look, I
have talked at nauseum in the beginning here as to why I was doing the
podcast. I've said it was a contract issue. According to the person that
message me. They say he said it was another issue. Yet they say
that that's not true. And I'm going, okay, well put it.
Where where is it in writing? Show me? Show me what would be
a definitive state? Who has ever said that? Do you understand what we're
saying? Who have authority? Has ever said that? Right? No?
No one, So that that's that's not true. And again but okay,
that's I don't care why you thought I'm not there. I didn't. I
didn't. Wait. So when those those guys couldn't have been nicer. Uh,
they are very connected. Rizzonn Jeff were very connected, and they were
sending me, hey, if you need anything, blah blah, And all
I wrote back was thanks because I knew what I was gonna do, and
I also believe this, if you're gonna do something like I was taking the
risk to do this and build this studio and now start to build this network
and sell it and do all the things that I'm doing. That right,
and it's going well, right, Okay, So in order to do that.
I wasn't telling anybody. And the only reason I wasn't tellingybody, And
it wasn't like I'm not telling rizzone Jo, I'm not telling anybody. I
didn't even really think about those guys. I wasn't telling anybody because everybody else
was gonna tell me how it wasn't gonna work, and I was already starting
to see that. I went to do I got hired to do like a
voice job for a couple of airports around the country, and I went into
the studio and all I heard was, no one can monetize a podcast.
No one's been able to do it. I haven't seen it. This was
five minutes before I even started reading. Because the person said, what are
you gonna do? I said, I think I'm gonna do. But I
heard about how. That's why I don't tell anybody, because people aren't telling
you that to be mean and shit all over your dreams. They're telling you
that because they think they're being helpful. Hey man, that's it. You
know, I've never seen that work. I wasn't gonna listen to anybody then,
I will tell you this. When I started the podcast, Rizzo sent
me something and said here's all the places you should go. And because of
Rizzo and Jeff, and this is absolute fact, I use Spreaker, which
is owned by iHeart. And the reason I use it and I pay for
it through my company is because it distributes everywhere, and so all the podcasts
are on this network. I use Spreaker, and I used it at the
recommendation of Rizzo. There you go, I'm not even kidding. Yeah.
So the fact that I didn't get back, I'm like, none of it
okay, So none of that made any sense. And the other thing I
would say is this when someone doesn't respond to us. And this is a
lesson for me. I'm not talking about anybody else. The only way we
can see life is through ourselves. So the second lesson I learned, the
first one being you never know how you're perceived. I really thought that I
not. I didn't feel like I went out of my way. I thought
I naturally was like cool with these guys you were, I really did.
I thought I was naturally cool with them, and I never gave them any
reason to think I didn't had nothing. Risen would come to the liquor store
because he lived close to there. We stand there and talk about radio for
hours. He loved you and another great things to say. So I don't
understand what this is about. So then I would say this. Then it
was like all of a sudden, immediately I'm getting other things where they're going.
We're not going on there, we're not talking something about somebody that was
this Only again, it was only one person that I've heard this stuff from.
I didn't go seeking it out because, like I said, and most
of my day today was tied up with a personal issue involving family and U.
I did not go seeking this stuff out. But the person sent me
it, and in it they're like, we're not going to kiss Moran's ring.
When the fuck did I ever say kiss? What do you do?
What is that to you? Out? I mean, I like, hold
on a second. So I never said anything. So then it was he
didn't respond, he to do this. Here's what I would say, and
I learned this too, was you never know what's going on with somebody else
that if they don't get back to you, it's not probably about you.
You didn't get back to me into No, but do you understand what I'm
saying? I think that a lot of times if someone doesn't get back to
you, and I will tell you that probably the best people get back to
you immediately. I'm not and I that is an absolute character flaw for me.
I will not deny that I said, but but but it's not it's
not it's not a fair excuse. But the other thing is it I did
have and I will not go into detail on it, something that is pretty
extreme that I'm dealing with. UH. And because of that, it just
became my priority. This wasn't my priority and it but it had nothing to
do with you. It wasn't because I don't like you, and I would
say that, So that changed taking it back to myself, which because I
do that with everything, UH, I would say like now I go,
I will touch somebody three times, meaning I'll send a message. Let's say
I send a message on Friday and I don't hear from them throughout the weekend,
I'll wait till Tuesday. I'll send another message. If I don't hear
again by Thursday, I'll send a third. If I don't hear again,
then I go message message received. But I didn't do anything but in the
video and things, this was all what was very very confusing to me,
uh, and again I only saw clips, and it was one person who's
clearly invested spent time chopping these their videos up. I don't even know how
you do that. I don't know how they downloaded their videos. But I
didn't see the whole video. I just saw segments because it was it was
chopped like pick up in a mid sentence. And that's how you know it
was editing to be friend defend you though there's times Danny Night work on this
show and you don't respond. That's that's yeah, I and and that,
and that's wrong and that's wrong too, and I should do that, and
I watch you guys cute, but if you put everybody chats, I'm sure,
I'm sure, I'm sure. Just so, then then the other side
of this is that So now I'm watching a little bit of the video and
Rizzo's saying we should go over there, and Jeff says, you know,
I'm not a fan of this, and then they went on about how if
they go, they want to be able to do their Facebook live because I
tape, well, we're on Facebook Live right now, and I do tape
and download. I don't pay attention to the live stuff because my advertisings inside
the recorded podcast that gets downloaded tomorrow from Spreaker on Apple, on iHeart,
on Spotify, on Google, on Amazon, everywhere, right, And so
I don't really pay attention to you know, who's watching, not watching.
I take those videos, those are put into with my team teases and stuff.
So so this was like, I go, so they're going that way
because I don't want him editing. When have I ever? I thought?
I was like, where did this distrust come from? And what all of
a sudden he can tell his truth my truth? What is my truth?
What the fuck? What is my tru I don't know what my truth is?
And then uh, they're going and we're gonna tell our truth and you'll
be able to see it if we do this. We want to be Facebook
live so that way nothing can come out wrong. And I'm going. So
that became a threat to me. And all I can say is this at
that at that point, and I didn't see those videos until I was in
here. We taped a podcast. It was late last night. I didn't
I didn't leave this studio last night until about midnight, UM, and I
didn't. And I saw their videos kind of just before that because somebody had
sent them and then was at that point, I'm like, well, I'm
not looking to do any kind of hostile thing. I have nothing bad to
say about you guys. I have nothing bad to say about my heart.
I'm I'm moving forward. I don't want to go back and rehash anything to
do with I heart, because I've moved on. My life is this way.
If my heart were to come back to me and say something, I
don't know, but I'm not looking for that. I'm doing my thing and
doing it well and just going forward. It's about forward momentum. I didn't
want to rehash anything to be I don't stay stuck somewhere. Do you understand
what I'm saying? Right Like, I felt like if you could be angry
about something and you'll wind up staying stuck there, I decided that, all
right, fine, I'm gonna go do this and that, and that's what
I've done so that I don't know what they're my truth and their truth.
I think there's another reason that you got fired. That's what they're saying.
You know, there was tons of reasons people thought you got fired. Yeah,
well, first episode about they know it's called rumors and I'll tell you
how fair what it is. I know, I know exactly what. I'm
sure too. But so the point is, okay, so why why why?
What? What good does it do to bring those rumors to what to
my face? So I can have to say that's not true, and then
they can go, well, it is true, and I'll say, okay,
how do you prove that? And I'll go, right, do you
understand something like to me, it's a circular, ridiculous argument. It has
nothing to do it has absolutely nothing to do with anything. And I thought,
wow, this is It made me feel bad because I'm like I.
First of all, I like those guys, but clearly I was perceived.
I didn't realize how I was perceived. Second, I did learn that just
because somebody doesn't get back to you has no bearing on you necessarily at all.
Right, I really don't think it does. Maybe from time to time,
but but but probably not. And then and then the other is,
I'm not weighing into some back and forth about something that that doesn't exist or
benefit anybody. It doesn't benefit anybody. And if they want to response,
send it to me bellified that producer at Gmail. No, send me all
your all your hate, okay, But my point is, like their truth,
my truth, I don't. I've never gone on about my truth.
All I said was there was a contract issue. That's what it was.
That's what it was. There was something in the contract, and that's what
it was. So I don't know where else you want to go with that.
Do you want to say that I was fired for some kind of inappropriate
behavior? I know that that's exactly I know that's what they want to say.
But that's not why I was fired. And I wasn't fired. It
was a it was a parting of the ways and that that that's absolutely true.
How did that? How did someone start that? Because I heard that?
Fuck? But who cares? Here's the other thing is, like I
truly believe most people don't care. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
And if you do, all right, you know, there's so many things
going on right now that I cannot talk about that will blow. If things
go the way they could go, it'll fucking blow people's minds and you'll all
go, wait a second, they were saying, why so don't even like
he just but my point is, how did he get there? Why?
I don't care? I honest to god, I don't care. But now
it's things like I'm a dick or I'm old, or I do this or
I do that, and I'm going, where do fuck does this ship come
from? So now you think I want you in my studio after I've been
nothing but nice. I thought I was nice when we worked together. I
liked you guys, and now that now I'm supposed to be like, oh
my god, I'm supposed to come running. And by the way, it
was one person then I heard from when other radio Shay shows talking to me,
it was hundred. So I don't know what the fuck to believe or
not believe, and they don't care. I wish you guys a lot of
luck. I will say it again. You're talented, you're very interesting,
and you're some of the hardest working guys I've ever seen. That's it.
That's it, yea, And thank you for teaching me two lessons. One
that none of us really know how we're perceived. Clearly, I thought I
was cool with you guys, and from your aspect, I was not okay.
Eye opening. Second, I should probably respond a little quicker to things.
But sub to that is when people don't respond to me, I'm not
going to take it as personally. I'm not because I realize the reason that
I didn't. I will not get into it. I will never talk about
but it's a deep, deep thing that's going on right now, and you
know, it's not fair to people in my family. So that's it.
But I was like, wow, that So that bothered me, and I
thought, but it says more I think about these guys than it does me.
I had never done anything right, right right, And by the way,
they weren't involved in any of it. None of it had anything nothing,
not my bilified, not my time at iHeart, had nothing to do
with them. So I don't understand, like exactly like So to me,
it just seemed like it was made up and it came out of the oblivion,
and I don't understand it. And if they get upset about me saying
these things, that's fine. I just it made absolutely zero sense, and
maybe I didn't see the full context of it. Again, one person sent
me a series of videos that were chopped up. One person, I don't
know what else to do, and I didn't have the time to go looking,
and I've got I've got a bunch of projects and this show is as
real as it gets. I mean, I think in the one hundred and
seventy episodes, or don't think we've edited once outside of just a commercial.
I have edited commercials. Yeah, because you and I think we've edited one
time. I have edited when um, someone called me and said please take
that out. I don't want my name. Somebody else said something called me
and said please take that out. I don't want to have said. We
don't edit anything. No, except for the promos. No, those are
just audited down. So it's thirty seconds instead an hour and a half.
Sorry, long time, too long conversation. That was good, but but
but true. Yeah everything, I mean there's nothing that nothing made up?
Right, Okay, yeah, nothing made up? So there you go.
Okay, there it is. That's it. If you can't reach Bill,
send it to me. I'll take care of it. Yeah, say that
again, what is it? They'll find that producer, they'll find send me
out your filth. There you go, and if you can't find me,
I'll probably be at mul Connery's Irish pub. Let's touch Ireland right on the
other side of the canal. Go in there and look for me and Damian.
We'll be hanging out, just having a good time, laughing and drinking
a couple of did you call me? Call me back? But I mean
even those guys I don't get back to all the time, they don't get
back to me all the time. I didn't take it personally. And I
will say again, we're on Spreaker because it Rizzo and they were. They
could not have been cooler when uh, there was a parting of the ways.
They couldn't have been right. And I hope that they know that I
appreciated that. Well, hopefully they listen and they know I don't know someone
someone's gonna tell them, of course, so you know, I mean,
but I'm not looking to start, but this is this is what they wanted.
Though they might have this like war and you just kind of war,
right, but it's they will trying to start. But I will say something.
They taught me a lesson. I'm not kidding. You never know how
you're perceived. I thought I was cool with these guys. Clearly they didn't
feel the same way. I don't get back to people that Obviously that rubs
people the wrong way. I need to get better at that. And on
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too. I shouldn't. I shouldn't be upset. I should give them a
little bit of room because I don't know what else is happening in the world,
right, I really don't. They want a war. One of them
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right. Happen to this band. I liked him. They're good kid Joe.
I liked him. I had two heads. It's about it has a
cover on his cover. Yeah's the creative. It's hard to have hit it
all, you know what I mean. I haven't hit it all. I
didn't like you at one time too, so I know, I know,
so I understand what's all right? And did I've always loved you? No,
Mark really didn't like it was misled and I don't. But did I
react? No? You were coolest shit. I ended up having beers with
you over a freaking I don't know why. I don't know what it's wrong
with me, but I just I don't care about a lot of ships.
Well, I used to be. I used to be really think skinned it.
It's a sensitive it's the radio station, like I screwed up your showing
you were mad and you were talking shit, would you should up? I
mean, right now I don't remember that, but I probably I screwed.
But I screwed your show up bad? Okay, I'm sure no worse than
I did. Maybe you know what the big thing is. Here's what I've
come to realize. There is nothing. I don't give a fuck who you
are, what you're doing. There's nothing serious going on here for the most
for most of us. I guess we could say, like if you're in
a nuclear artist treaty. Maybe if you're performing surgery, I guess you are
if you can find in the care to cancer. But what percentage of the
world is doing that? Less than one percent. So there's nothing serious going
on. And even when shit seems like it's so bad, it's not.
And when shit seems like it's so good, it's not. It's somewhere in
the middle. But if you could always feel good and go for the better
feeling thought and keep positive and keep picturing things happening for you, they will,
And that's it. You're not a drama You are not a drama guy.
No, you never have been. No. I mean I could get
down and dirty, and I did for a long time, and I would
get down, but it never did me any good, never made me feel
good, made me feel shitty, and it just never worked. You know
what, I'll give you one from radio that that really got to me for
a while. Um, So I was doing I was doing like afternoons,
but they were leting me do whatever I wanted. I was going four until
nine, and after six, I was allowed to do whatever I wanted.
So I did whatever I wanted. I just put on I was allowed to
just talk, and I had people in the studio and we did strip trivia
and we did all this weird stuff. I just had a lot of fun
and it was kind of a cool training ground to do talk and do FM
radios them. Yeah. So during that time, though ninety five one,
which is now Radio ninety five one where I worked at in our city,
they had an alternative station and they brought they had two guys, Kramer and
Twitch, who they put on in the afternoon, and Kramer and Twitch decided
to just start coming at me and coming at me and making fun of me.
And I had just had my first child and I wore sweater vest and
they made fun of me and they did all this shit and if they went
hard at me, hard heart, heart, and it was getting under my
skin. And it was actually getting under my wife's skin at the time as
well, so you you dealt with it here. And then you know,
she was in the radio business too, and she heard some of this stuff
and it was bothering her and they were making fun and then one day they
called me from wherever they were in America because they were piped in from somewhere,
but they were doing it just a specific Rochester show, and they called
me and they said, hey, they're making fun of me. And I
said, I'll talk to you guys. But much like you know, the
guys who we just talked about, said, I want to be able to
be live as well. I don't want you to talk to me. I
want to be able to tape you guys. So I said, call me
through the regular board, and they did, and I aired what they said,
and I go, I guarantee, because they were like a day later
everything would come in because they were West Coast, I go, I guarantee
you won't hear this since sure enough they had edited it up. And much
like you know, these guys were saying, I may do to them,
And it turned out that there was a radio personality named Eman who was also
the program, and it was just feeding shit to these guys to try to
get under my skin. And I didn't sleep one night, and I was
at one point, I'm like, I'm gonna buy a plane ticket and I'm
gonna go out. I'm gonna go to that radio station. And I think,
I don't remember. When I'm driving to work and I'm thinking about it
and to eat me up, eating me out, eating me up, And
I look in the in the rearview mirror and I'm and there's my kid in
his in his car seat facing you know, the other way, because they're
too little, and he's just kicking his little legs. And I go,
the fuck am I doing? I could go who gives a shit? But
the who gives a shit? Who cares? Who cares? And I thought,
it's just a joke. It's all just a joke. You're an entertainment.
It's a joke. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything.
And that was it and that and from that point on, I thought,
I gotta just be me and and that and that's not me. I mean,
I can be a real asshole. Ask anybody, ask people I was
married to that they'll tell you I can. I can. I know I
can. I have been told that I can, like on a on a
dime. Just it just like the air turns cold in the room when I
get really pissed. I understand that. I try not to do that anymore.
I don't know. But yeah, so yes, I got down and
I wanted to fight, and I wanted to go, you know, and
I've always been around boxing, and I want to fight, I like,
you know, but it does no good comes of it, so I'd rather
have fun. There you go. Weird story in the news today and I
don't I don't get this, and maybe somebody can explain this to me.
No, no, it's not as weird as you think. We'll get to
that in a little bit. But the State Police, the State Police are
asking for the public's health help health in finding William Zany Junior, who went
missing in two thousand and five. It is two thousand and twenty three.
This guy just vanished October over twenty fifth, two thousand and five. I
believe this guy would be fifty nine years old today. So if you go
back, what is two thousand and five, eighteen years ago? Yeah,
eighteen years ago, so fifty nine was that making forty two at the time
when he goes missing two. So but this is all on all the news
stations. They have his picture, They've aged him, so he had kind
of scraggly hair and now he looks like a caveman in their aging renditions of
this guy. And I'm going, why is this back up? What's going
on? So they don't think he's dead. I don't know. He just
this is the weirdest thing hit the lotto on the left. So I had
a few minutes, I go, let me type this guy's name into the
thinking box called Google, and it's here's where I found at four or five
pm. Okay. So Zany was lasting in Victor October twenty fifth, two
thousand and five. He had his car, a gray two thousand Toyota,
repaired at the East Few Mall that morning and I know where he was.
Sears had the Sears Auto where the New Dicks is now. Yeah, that's
where Sears was. At four or five pm that same day, Zanney's car
was found abandoned on Walworth, Ontario Road, north of Root four forty one
in Walworth, Okay. Although it was raining heavily. The vehicle's windows were
rolled down, It had three quarters of a tank of gas and was in
operable condition. It had been driven about twenty five miles that couldn't be accounted
for. I guess from where they were, maybe twenty five miles from East
few Mall to Walworth where they found the car, I don't know. An
hour after the car was found, someone matching Zaney's description was seen walking along
the road. He was never heard from again. That's it weird. This
motherfucker disappeared. I think he probably is alive. He fucking disappeared. That's
what I want to want to do sometimes. I know I've had the same
thought. Wouldn't it be great to just disappear? And I think it's way
harder today because of all the cameras. But I don't think it's impossible.
I continue. Zanny lived alone in East Rochester. At the time of his
disappearance. He was under supervision from a local group home. I don't know
why. Usually a group home would be for people who have some mental disabilities,
adults who can't fully live alone. I don't know. No, it's
kind of getting weird. It is because they didn't say halfway house, not
like he was in prison. This is coming out. This is a group
home, but they're not saying why he was there, because it'd be like
a rehab facility. Maybe it could be. It's a great point because those
are considered those are called group homes. He is described as a loaner with
few friends. He divorced two years before his disappearance, but was still unfriendly
terms with his ex wife. He has two young children. This not from
the news, by the way. I found that on some other website at
the time of his disappearance. Here's where it gets interesting. Zany was due
to inherit inherit a substantial sum of money in a trust from his mother,
who had recently died. He normally pays for everything with a credit card,
but it has not been used since his disappearance. Could this guy have plotted
figured out, with the help of somebody, how to get that money into
I don't know what I'm thinking, like a well, wouldn't they know if
the money was the money taking before he went missing? It doesn't say,
at least in this article. Who doesn't say? And I think this was
written around the time that he originally went He disappeared, But today all three
networks did NBC affiliate, CBS and ABC. If all three of them had
this guy missing since ZO five? What the fuck is going on? And
how did he disappear? If someone I want to talk to this guy,
I want to go, dude, how did you do it? If you
were if you were to talk to that, that's my first question. He
got you do it? Now? Why did you do it? Who gives
you shit? Why? I get why? How? Wow? I just
want to freak. You just walked away? Did you wait? Did you
check the weather because it was pouring? Did you leave the windows down and
just go fuck it and just walk? I can't imagine they'll not calling my
brothers or you know what I mean. I don't know. It doesn't say
that he has any siblings or anything's kids. Zanny loved well, he does
have kids, that is true. He has two young children at the time
of oh five, So now eighteen years later, that is a weird one.
This is a strange thing. Zanny's loved one stated he would not have
willingly abandoned his vehicle. He worked part time at the plant Corporation in Masterthon,
but now he's back in the news. Well, they do that every
now and then. I've never seen this. Yeah, there used to be
a kid that got remember the kid that got by Burger King over on Scottsville
Road, ste No, Yeah, and they used to bring him up all
of a sudden his mom would Yeah. But that was on an almost a
consistent basis for a long time. I remember this was in the news.
This I've never I don't ever remember seeing, says. At the time of
his disappearance, investigators believe Zanny is missing under suspicious circumstances. His case remains
unsolved. So did someone know he had this money and try to go get
him. Did somebody lie to him and say, I'm going to help you
get to the gaming irons? How much money is a substantial amount of money?
Man? You know what I mean? Somebody once used the example to
me if I had one hundred dollars, what to you is if I said,
take a substantial amount of this, what would it be for you?
If I had one hundred bucks? You said, Bill, you got to
give me a substantial amount of that. What what is the number you expect
out of that hundred to be a substantial amount at least seventy five. Honey,
Kevin would probably want ninety seven, So that's okay, ninety five.
Do you see what I'm saying? Like substantial is in different people's minds.
Is depends, it's subjective. So I don't know, I don't want a
substantial amount of Where the fuck is this guy? What happens? See if
you watch soap operas like I do. Okay, this happens all the time,
does missing Yeah, some of the someone they think will been dead for
ten years all of a sudden shows back up again. It's not that I'm
not your twin brother. I am Ricardo, right, it just happened.
I'm young on the wrestlers. Would this be one of those things where they're
putting it out there now to try to get one of these true crime podcasts
that are all over the place. They could pick it up and say,
if this y'all want to take a look at it. This is a true
crime podcast. But I think some of these crimes have been solved by internet
sleuths or people who responded to true crime podcast I really did that whole,
I whole whole, Ida hope, all right, I did. I don't
mind to say this, but I'm going to But I love when you say
that because I know you really do want to say, Well, why why
I even waste the energy because it's gonna you know, it might sound come
out wrong. Um, I don't think he's alive. That could be,
that could very well be. Nobody can nobody, nobody can go away kids?
Yeah, do you disappear with no kids? That That's where it kind
of like gets me. I mean, I was just thinking I would still
if I was to go missing, if I just I had to do this
myself. Yeah, how I would still want to contact people? Yes,
you know I can't imagine, not right, even though I really wanted to
do this. You got all that money, you gotta contact. What would
you do it? Like, if you were gonna go disappear? Okay,
would you go so far as to surgically alter your face so you were not
recognizable? Do you understand what I'm saying that? And I'm not saying like
anything too drastic, but just enough to go, oh, that's not mark.
You don't have Like you see somebody from behind and go hey I've done
this before. Hey man, I did it here, I'm in this studio.
I see somebody walking into the the Fairport Town Hall. I think it's
Berkeley Breen. I'm screaming from here. I opened the door, go hey,
man, what's going on? Hey? It turns around and goes,
yeah, that's not me, and it wasn't. So you can have one
of these where people say Mark and then you turn around and they go,
oh, that's not Mark. But man, question is, how do you
go about getting a license and getting a passport? In dark web baby,
dark Webb, they can find all kinds of should go really? Yeah?
You go really? Yeah? But what's the dark web available on oh five?
I don't know. No, but you would go to somebody, Yeah,
you would that. You go to somebody you know, yeah, really
dirty and they would do that. I would love to do that. I
still might just for like what for Let's say you disappear for how long would
you go because you said you would miss people? How long would you go
go? A decade? Could you go ten years? I could probably a
long weekend? No, no, could you go a decade? A decade
underground? That would be something completely different. No one would know your past.
You show up, Let's say you want to stay because you only really
do you speak any other languages. No, do you think he could learn
another language? Creasily? You do, all right, I don't know that
I could Spanish. Spanish is not a hard language. No, I don't
think it's hard, but I don't know that I could do it. Probably,
but I don't even want the challenge. So I would go to like
I would try to blend into a cool city, San Diego, Austin,
Vegas. You know Vegas, Vegas. A you go to Vegas. I
would go somewhere like Austin or San Diego, and I would work. I
would do something like, I don't know, coffee, some stress free fucking
job, or I could just laughing, especially if I knew I had an
inheritance. I was tucked away. I got my money. I don't need
to sweat. My bills are covered luck. Basically I'm living in the dirt
anyway, don't matter, not living high in the hog. But weather's nice
every day. I fuck, we got a plan here, it sounds great.
Here's here's something today that I did. I went, I had one
of my kids with me, and I said, let's go grab lunch.
And I don't know what goes on in the village of it. You worked
in the hospitality industry, like, no fucking restaurants are open on a Monday.
Well fucking Chinese restaurant over here pisses me off, so they're not open.
I went to try the new taco joint. They weren't open. Then
it's like, I'm like, then you're kind of hitting here or there.
I'm not sure what's open. So we went and every day I drive down
this place and I see Vinnie's Delhi, so I go into. I go,
hey, let's try this. So let's go to Vinnie's Deli. So
we go into Vinnie's Delhi. There's not a lot on the shelves, there's
not a lot. Vinnie's his old guy from Italy. But he made a
great probably a great sandwich. My son had a great sandwich. Actually ran
into there was only one other person, one other customer in there, and
as a guy who used to work within radio, someone I know, Jp
Hastings. So but then I say to Jordan, why don't we just sit
in this window will eat? And then we had to go somewhere. So
we're sitting there and Vinnie the guy who comes over and goes heys from Italy.
Everything good, you know, other places. They judge you so much.
They say, gourmet everything here is gournemet. I make the bread,
I make it the minute. And then he starts going on about how he
also was a contractor. He did framing, he did paving, he does
all the work around there. And then he says he's a world class opera
singer. No way, this is what he says. He says, So
then he goes, I was in an opera group. I joined an opera
group that was so good. It was so good in the opera group.
They told me you're too good. You gotta go, you gotta go.
I said, I'm not going anywhere you gotta go. So the next thing
I know, they tell me you're going to Vegas, and I go,
oh the show girls. Oh you know. Well, I say, I'm
not going anywhere. I'm not going. I should forget it. I quit.
He goes, But then I had an opportunity to sing with Pavaratti.
Me Pavaratti. We sang together. Afterwards, he says to me, Vinnie,
you're coming with me, we'll go I'm going. Is this all bullshit?
It sounds like complete bullshit. Growing up, there was a guy who
moved in two houses down on a very rural street where I grew up.
He says that he is a famous French chef. Guys now about eighty eighty
one years old, says he ran one of the ten best restaurants in the
world. He was a private chef to Orson Wells. He was, I
believe, the private chef for Nixon or Ford or somebody. He had done
all this stuff and he had a cookbook. And I remember my father on
this guy is so full of shit. It's turn out all to be true,
all true. We went in his house. He had pictures of him,
he had with Orson Wells, He had pictures with him with the presidents.
He did. It was one of the ten best renstaurants, called Mable
Song. It was up in the Pine Plains area where I grew up,
and ran it there for a decade. It was one of the most like
It was a five star restaurant. And he had a cookbook that was all
published and he would sign. And then my mother made the mistake of making
a Myrisota bread for Saint Patrick's Day one year, and he called up and
said, hello, I'll work on the recipe with you, because it was
terrible and he was going to fix it. But so I'm going Could this
vinny guy who runs his deli on Route thirty one A in Fairport be full
of shit? Or could he have been a world class opera singers? When's
he coming in? I don't know. I didn't happen. He's just an
old man. I didn't know. If it sounds interesting, he does sound
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partners sex fantas see freaks you out? A little of the weekend earned it?
You know this song? I think it was in fifty shapes. Did
you see those little you know what they were? They were just a dubble
movies of Twilight. Well that was Twilight fan fiction. I didn't see Twilights,
so I don't know. So I saw this article on askman dot com
and the title was what to do when your partner's sex fantasies freak you out?
And you my friend we at the beginning today tonight's I started podcast No
you did you said that you threesomes, which I think I might get a
little freaked out. I think that if my partner said to me, I
really want to have a threesome and I want to do like one time with
a woman and one time with a guy, that I would be so distracted
and apparent and fucked up in my head, like I wouldn't be able to
think of anything, especially if she goes, hey, this Friday, I've
invited whatever friend over, or Hey, I really think you're your friend SO
and so is good looking. I don't think I would be like. I
think I would turn into a ken doll, smooth plastic park. I think
I would freak out. Man, I don't know where to put what and
when and where and why? You know that would be my thing. I
just I would I have I think I would get confused. I'd have to
get so you don't want to get too drunk to where nothing can happen,
but you want to get like slightly buzzed. Like I don't know if I
could do that. Yeah, I mean I think you'd be fine. I
do. I think you'd be okay. So it's expert Park says you'll be
good. What happens if someone you're sleeping with, whether it's a new hookup
or a partner of many years, springs a fetish you haven't quite wrapped your
head around on you, something you feel is too kinky, too racy,
too risk? Ay, what would that be? Could you mind if I
ask this question, like, what would that? Because I honestly I'm going
I don't know what that would be for me, because I think that if
if the person that I'm partner with, okay, if I was partnered with
somebody, uh and they were really into this, I might go, all
right, I'll try it. So I don't know that there's anything that's too
risk. Gay, I just said it. What the docupond or the docupon?
I don't what is the documentar? She wants you to punch her in
the face. No, you put her on all fours and you want to
see and you're supposed to hit her in the back of the head and the
back of the head, yeah, and the while you're banging her. Yeah.
So okay, sounds so stupid, But okay, I mean, I
don't know. I've never done it, I never will. So so they
say, here, suppose your partner opens up to you with a particular fetish
that you view as a turn off. Before your grimace and shame them stop,
do your best to react in a neutral way. This is according to
Uh, well, have I got to see if I get one of these
people on They have a podcast called Loving BDSM. Oh, it sounds great,
let's get them. I would like to just to only because what are
they talking about? I said, instead of saying you gross or that's crazy,
we're disgusting. Is the fastest way to make your partner never feel comfortable
being vulnerable with you in the future. It's extremely difficult for many people to
overcome shame and fear to share their kinks, So be aware that it was
a big deal for them to say anything in the first place. Huh,
Yeah, I don't. Maybe maybe I'm determined to Vanilla. I mean,
I I'd like to think I get a little freaking just thinking though. When
she told me she wanted to men want my reaction was it was so long
ago what she said, I want to be documented and I go and she
had explained to me what it was, and I'm like, I'm like,
no, okay, so yeah, I mean so my reaction was like,
you know what am I supposed to do? Go? Oh, all right,
let's discuss this disgusted me smashing you in your head while I'm fucking you
know? What if you said, what if we got really close to the
headboard that way, I don't have to touch you, but I'll just keep
pounding from biagon just to we knock you out. I've never punched anybody in
my life. How about a little and he got asked by a chick to
lightly choke him, and he that he found that to turn off. I
can't do that either, yeah lightly so no, so nothing of physical pain,
no, because we taught, we've taught before. I don't even I
don't like bondage, dren that stuff either. So yeah, yeah, see,
I think I think I don't think there's anything. I think I could
get talked into anything with the right person. I'm starting to think that as
I'm sitting here thinking, I I I could probably get talked into anything.
I don't know, like the bondage stuff I could see. I don't know,
like kids. Oh, I just no, no, no, no,
no no. I don't want to be tied up, but I could
see, like if someone said to me, I like to be tied up,
and I would go, all right, it's been a little while since,
uh, I forgot my my slipknotting going Matt coming mack cage and with
me. Yeah, but okay, well, el see, now that might
be paddling might be a little weird for me, like Danny kind of beating.
You're right, see, that's but the light choking. I think I
could do. I don't. I don't think that. I think I could.
I think I could do that. I think I could do stuff on
you. No, no, nope, couldn't agree up though. Nah,
you just said you could talk into anything. Yeah, I don't think so.
I don't think I would on that one, because I know I don't
think I could either. Yeah, I don't think I could. Now I
did hear about about a guy that UM used to like to have his partner,
a woman, put on a strap on and take him. People like
that, you do like that's fucking weird to me. It is weird.
But okay, now it's a big extreme from a pinky to a strap on.
Yeah, I know it's a huge extreme. But but let's say that
at some point that had to become a conversation. There was a point where
that person didn't know that. The next words out of your partner's mouth was
I gotta strap on it, like you to put it on? Like,
do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, sometimes I want to heat at
the moment. You might do something. You ever do something you regret it?
Oh? I no, probably not. Story. There's a story about
of life. Everything I do, I usually there's no I regretted. There's
situations I regretted. Yeah, there's moments I was involved in I regret.
Yeah. So yeah, there's a lot of regret in there. All they're
saying here is, you know, be curious instead of acting negatively to stuff,
try to be a little more open. Now there's some kink stuff that
I don't get at all. Because I told you guys. Or I told
these guys that the King Society, remember she came in. Yeah, she's
gonna come back in. At the end of the month. They have an
auction to raise money, and they had an ad going and it's two people
who are baby fetish, and they go, if you're looking for adult sized
diapers, we're gonna have him at the auction on whatever. And I go,
that's something I don't get. I just can't imagine. I don't get
that. Okay, if someone said to you, I'd like to use you
as a urinal mark, would you be okay with that? No? If
someone said to use me like a urinal No, okay, absolutely, Now
because I do know somebody who liked that. I yeah, there's always somebody
that like, like, get's bragged about it. Someone I know, no,
damn it. But I was always like, okay, I know,
I don't I don't find do not write it down, do not write it
down. I do know the person, Oh I oh yeah, yeah,
yeah that one. I asked him that one. Huh ask him that one
because I don't I don't know what it is cream pie, Yeah, I
don't. I don't fully understo what that one has the cream pie videos they
talk about. Yeah, it's just so disgusting. I can't even really say,
yeah, I'm trading. I'll tell you what, it's not that unnatural.
It's probably a traditional sex and it's where the person the man finishes,
and then they show you that and so they call it a cream pie.
There, just like eating disgusting, just eating like okay, okay, okay,
cake okay, okay. Jesus Christ. See, I guess there are
things I couldn't do. There's a lot you can't just a lot I can't
do. It was just more of the you've done than I did. I
know. But so I remember, I'm just if these things were naming right
now, I would never do. Yeah. I mean there's people a poop
on each other. No, yeah, I've never done that either. I
couldn't do blumpkins. Oh well, oh oh you know, you know,
you know somebody my buddy used to hang out with me all the time.
I can't. He probably wouldn't care. He used to his girl. His
girlfriend used to do with a bumpkin all the time. So a blumpkins word
of the man is going number two and she's blown up. Can you imagine
my dad listens to it makes me sick. And he just got a nice
he likes words. Yeah, he he actually had he actually had a shirt
he said, I get I get blumpkins and it's a it's a stick figure,
stick figure. Well, how do how do you do that? When,
like I've been around we I used to in college. We had a
fisher where my senior year I stayed. I lived on campus, rare for
a senior, but I did. And we had our own bathroom. It
in our sweet like our own room with its own bathroom. And I used
to go into our bathroom and I would take a dump, and I would
open up the door and the door to the hallway and see how far you
can get this smell to travel like I would. That's what I would do.
I would. And you weren't allowed to use a fan or anything.
And people will get just disgusted, but they could always tell. So imagine
that smell, right, and you got to do this And there are people
that like that. Yes, she liked it. Yes, you gotta like
a you know, a girl who knows what she wants that's disgusted. I
would look at it. It's one way to put your phone down here in
the bathroom. I guess I mean the phone. What Okay, go ahead,
what what would be the like, the the edgiest thing you think you've
ever done other than the threesome? Is there anything edgy? Oh? Let
me think about that and we'll talk about that next week. Okay, and
we'll really talked about all right, think about that, think about that.
That's an interesting question. I don't know off the top of my hand,
because I think everything I've done is I think everything I've done it's just been
no. No, I don't think anything's I've done is zgi no, you
know, and stuff like that. Ever pick up a complete stranger, not
another person's name, not anything, and the next thing, you know,
I never have anything like that? Why didn't? I was like, yeah,
just a complete stranger. We were driving down me and me and my
buddy Chance were driving down Lake Avenue and two girls were standing in front of
Nazareth Academy when it used to be on as With Academy over by Flower City
Park and park driving park right, and two girls were just this is night.
Two girls are standing out there, and we went and picked them up.
We brought them back to Chance's house. And how old were they they
were a couple of years younger than we were. Yeah, they were what
are called mark Well, we didn't pay for anything cavs, so obviously that's
what I said. That's way strangers strangers. And they were okay looking,
they were head tuckers and training. And they never saw him again. They
got up and now they got up left. They never saw him again.
How do you not run into somebody ever? Again, I don't know.
They've been looking for this one guy since two thousand and five, everybody.
That is the thing that that's a strange thing because you do in this It's
it's a city where we are, but it's kind of a it's a small
right, So if you're out, Yeah, I run into people all the
all the time. Then I don't want to run into Yeah, I don't.
I don't, but I don't go very many places and I'm I'm very
focused these days, so I don't see I saw. I saw the same
car twice, and it was the only reason I know it was the same
cars because it was a very distinctive. It was like a it was Pittsburgh
Steeler colors and had Pittsburgh Steeler rims. Okay, And I saw it in
Greece and then I saw it going out to Webster the other night Friday,
they saw it going up Lake Avenue like towards the city. I'm that's odd.
That same year, I remember like when I used to do diamonds.
Oh my god, yes, and there were I something happened there and with
a chick and was that in the c Yeah, yeah, I was with
you. No you weren't, yes, I was. No, you weren't,
yes, I was. Why would I? How would I? How
would I know that? I was your freaking intern. I was your intern
whatever I was then I don't remember, but um and then uh, things
went so far And then she said I have a boyfriend yes, and I
was like what he's like yeah, she felt all guilty and something and then
she laughed and then I didn't I then I I think I ran into her
everywhere, like everywhere for like the next year. I random played like the
ballpark or or or Wagmans. I would turn down the empty aisle and I
was like, oh my good. I mean you're like no, no,
no, never say anything. It was just good because she was usually with
that guy. Well she was probably drunk and doesn't made me remember either though.
You know, Oh, that's a beauty of back in the day,
back in the day. All right, we slept in the van two for
a while, so we will get wi. I don't remember that too,
Yes, okay, I drove. I drove the girlfriend's house in the city
off Monroe Avenue. You got in and you took the van. I don't
remember this, okay, all remember the night I got really drunk somewhere in
the city and I ended up I ended up waking up next morning in one
of Frenchick's extra bedroom. I think all of us have Frenchicks. I think
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I will tell you right now that I have a guilty pleasure. Oh yeah,
I'm a fan of George Michael. Oh I am too. I am
a documentary now. I saw Prime or somebody has a competing documentary, and
I'll say it's competing, and I didn't think these it would be. But
it says the real George Michael documentary. But I watched the Netflix one I'm
Wham. I watched the one I'm wha wham. This is supposed to be
about. I guess on Prime it was him, just him. I don't
know which. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. I want
to. I want a best friend like Andy Ring. Danny was fucking cool
because man, he bowed out and he gave him. He knew, and
he started the band and he was the brains behind it. And then the
reason he's he's George Michaels became this. Yes, so yeah that yeah,
he supported it and yeah you're right, yeah, and Andy's still alive and
George snotts. That's true. That's christmased to give you as her Yeah,
another various buddybirds. But I don't know why I've always thought this guy was
super talented. I would get mocked merciless see too. But I never told
people, well as I was another one. I just didn't give a shit.
Yeah, I didn't care. You know, when you're when you have
long hair earrings, you're listening to metal, No saying you like George Michaels
and Wayam's kind of well, that's why you had earrings and ship, didn't
you. Yeah, I didn't have any of that. No tattoos, no
piercing. No. I just said I hadn't nothing. I was always like
a bitch since nineteen ninety three. He looked like a bitch, sincetead.
But here's the but here's the thing is they always, uh the I've become
friendly now with the people that work around in our studio, they always when
they walk by here, like really late at night now because I don't figure
I'll do everything here and then I just go home and go to bed.
And the tailors down the street they make clothes down there. Yeah, they're
here to light there all the time, fucking midnight. I came in this
morning. I was here by eight thirty. Those guys were there already started
workers man and to be fair, you have not changed since I've known you.
I agree, You've had the same get up and everything. You haven't
really changed. He's right, you didn't go sad. Oh yeah, it's
kind of sad. I need to know what the fuck is wrong with me?
Try to get a dangling airing in the same since the nineteen ninety I
did? Yeah, pretty much pretty much. Yeah, it's fucking disgusting.
What a lamo? How bad is that? I tried to get to grow,
tried to get you to girl go tea on. I had to not
No, I didn't want to go to I grew a bet I did.
I had a beard for a for like a hot minute. I did,
and we started the show. You had one for a little bit at the
beginning. Yeah, I probably because I just didn't shave, That's all I
was. Seriously, you were sitting in your underpantstore. We had cameras too,
um, but I had That's true. I did. Uh drill,
sex is good, everybody should, that's right. I'm thinking if you put
porn in other parts of the world that I think women would get better treatment
and some like no, like you know what, please send me for a
fucking Second, what I'm trying to say is that some of those guys beat
off to porn in some of these places where they're just awful to women and
women have no rights and stuff, that maybe they'd be a little more relaxed
and we could move forward. That's all I'm saying. There's got some pent
up frustration because they're not They don't they outlaw, they outlaw porn. So
who's George from the tongue he wants to sex from in this cell? Because
I don't know if it's just really hot chicks. There was a really hot
chick? Was this city, Crawford? I don't remember. I didn't see.
I've been talking to you guys, not paying attention to the video.
All. I apologize, But I was a George Michael fan, and I
haven't changed my style since Society three three. I don't think I've probably changed
it since high school. I'm not kidding, Like I went to Fisher.
I'm you're right, I'm wearing a button down today. I would have wore
this to fit at Fisher. I mean the same way. No, No,
I'm not. Unfortunately, I'm not. I am. I'm way heavier
fuck off man. Yes, me bigger, but no, not that either.
Yes, a little bit, No, a little bit. I was,
uh, well I've noticed through to you my weight, Uh yeah right,
it probably is. Um my weight has has certainly fluctuated a little bit.
I'm working on that. I'm working on that though. I need to
be but I need to be down like twenty pounds. And I was headed
that way, and and then the weekend came and it went all right back
up Jesus, all right, Mark, this is easy. All on this
date? What everything August first? Okay, August first, everything August first.
On this date, August first, Rush Limbaugh began his national radio show
What Year Something? Radio? Guys? Okay, Rush Limbaugh. So I
a date popped into my head, and I think it's wrong. So I'm
gonna write down two and side as I before, Yeah, before we release
on this date August first, the I thirty five West Bridge in Minneapolis,
Minnesota, collapsing into the Mississippi River. Shit during the rush. Remember remember
that driving to work you're thinking about I mean, let's say you just got
in turn arguer all. Coming home from work, you had a fight with
your wife that morning, You're thinking of what am I gonna do. What
am I gonna do? You don't have to do anything. It's all over,
buddy, you I think, I think, not only do I want
to go missing, I want to freaking go off for bridge to collapses in
the water. I remember we were at a concert and we got a little
over surgeon. Me and my wife got a room and we were turned on
the TV and that was on. Wow. What year? What year was
that? What year? Uh? A lot of years this time? Okay?
On the state August first, the US and Canada create North American Air
Defense Command NORAD. What year was NORAD created? Come on, Mark,
don't look so blank, Norad. It was the same year as the plumpkin
created Norad. Uh, I don't know. His questions get nice, questions
get dumb and dumb every week every week. You learned something every week?
No, I really don't, because usually there's gonna pay attention, you know.
Usually they're rock once or twice. The answers not not often, not
often? Stuff all right. Born in nineteen fifty two, turning seventy one
today, Nancy Lopez has been favorite among the golfing scene here in Rochester.
How many times did Nancy win at Locust Hill? That was fast, Mark,
you knew the answer that I think, I'm might. I don't know.
I'm gonna write down two numbers. Today is also the birthday of legendary
musician and lead singer The Grateful Dead Jerry Garcia. What year was it,
Jerry Barne, not Cherry Garcia, Mark, Jerry Garcia? And the last,
but not least in seventeen ninety one, Robert Carter the Third, a
Virginia plantation owner. Freeze, how many of his slaves and the largest private
emancipation in US history? How many slaves did he? How many slaves did
he free of his own? Good? Okay, yeah, those are the
questions. Now we got to come up with the answers. Now. The
first one was Rush Limbaugh, And for some reason, I was thinking nineteen
eighty four, but I go, there was no way that that's true.
I got eighty three. But I'm saying that it is naturally syndicated show.
I think if oh, I don't know, maybe he did start before Stern,
because then I go, could have been ninety four. I don't know
why eighty four was in my head. And then I'm going, is that
on Orson Wells the Orwellian you know what I mean? What's when are you
going? With nationally syndicated show. I'm gonna say nineteen ninety four. He
chose Poorley shit nineteen eighty eight, fucking shit, well eighty three. So
you're five years off, and i'm I'm more than ninet two sixteen. I
I thirty five west Bridge at Minneapolis thirteen killed Injuring one hundred and forty five.
What year did the bridge go down? Nineteen ninety seven? I said,
twenty sixteen, two thousand and seven, now two thousand and seven.
Then he's him off by nine? Somebody score so far? Yeah, I
would just fucking crush you. Yes, Norad? What year was Norad?
Created? Nineteen ninety five? Set three nineteen fifty seven. That's why it's
a dumb question. It's not a dumb question. We're just dumb people.
You can't blame the question for being dumb when you're the dummy. I fiddled,
but I blame the question. Don't forget it. No, I lost
my train of thoughts of the filing because you're dumb. Yes, how I
am How many times did Queen Nancy win at Locust Hill once? Nice?
At eight three? Oh? I almost went to three. Fuck what year?
Jerry Garcia born nineteen forty one. I said, forty seven, nineteen
forty two, Oh wow, Mark on fire? And how many of his
slaves in the largest private emancipation in US history? Did mister Robert Carter the
third? Would you say over one? Two? I said three hundred and
thirty two. Okay, there you go. I was gonna say it had
to be under a thousand for some reason. Close one, Yeah, it
is close. I think this goes to Mark because Mark ripped up his paper.
No, but I think Mark. I think it goes to Mark.
Seriously, was off on a couple so was I. But I think you
know that's good Mark. Anyboddy, you're coming around, Pat Matt wasn't here,
That wasn't here to ruin it when that would have crushed us. By
the way, today was the first day in pads for the Buffalo Bills a
training camp or yesterday, and uh, DeMar Hamlin was out there and he
kept saying it's his faith. I gotta think in the back of your head,
you know what. I have no idea what it would be like to
be DeMar Hamlin. I can only imagine what it would be like to be
DeMar Hamlin's parents. Do you know what I'm saying? Family? Family?
But I'm thinking like if you're his mom, team or his dad, And
that's the only perspective I could probably come from because it's not you know,
I go, that's a fucking that would you be holding your breath? I
don't know if I could watch I don't know if I could watch him play
football again. Any I can tell you a story after I'll blow your mind,
just like that, Um Vinny Testaverdi when he his father wasn't um had
a heart attack watching one of his games. Was never watched the football game
for ten years. If any Testaverdy was in when the Jets went to the
championship in ninety eight, I think it was, Yeah, is that was
the first game his father watched was the championship, which they lost. Yeah,
thanks a lot, dad, Yeah, thanks thanks for coming around.
Right, But his dad had a heart attack while watching a game because he
got so excited. Yeah, couldn't watch his game. Yep, that's that's
kind of a heartbreaker. I couldn't watch test forty for other reasons. Why,
pretty good he got he got the right when Parcels got him, they
turned him into a good quarter though. Yeah he was well, they put
him in a Tampa Bay was a shit team for twenty Testaverdy and Bernie Kozar.
Yeah, two guys I always thought were They don't get enough credit.
They don't because they were playing at a time when the quarterbacks got their ship.
Kidding right, man. Vinie was a big man. Yeah, yeah,
they were big guys. But that was it all right, well for
um Martha Soldier excuse me, brought it tonight, Mark, But I had
fun guys, all right, I told you what happened last week. Yeah,
yeah, no, no, no, yeah. They started started to
my uh, you know, my vacation down period, my vacation for Kevin
Muir coming up with a great question. I do think I like closest to
the pen. I don't care what Mark says. I don't know. I'll
see you tomorrow. We'll see you tomorrow.