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Are we rolling? Should I start
this simply? Should this be there?

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This gold again? It's actually kind
of like got gold yead and not gold.

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Yeah, And uh there was a
guy a bunch of people came down.

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It's running Chris Christmas time. So
a lot of people there and we

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used to go as a family and
we had other families we meet there and

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stuff. And there was one guy
there who was always trying to work.

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You know that crowd. He's always
trying to meet people and like a network.

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And as you left, the place
was on Saint John. You had

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to take a boat to Saint Thomas
the airport, and he was talking to

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some guy. I guess he had
been chatting out for business. And as

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he's walking there, uh he he
says the guy, we were like,

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we're walking behind him. He says
to the guy, Oh, well give

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me let me get your numbers,
so uh so I can uh give you

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home on in the city. We
have munch, right, it's okay.

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And then he looks around. Here
have a pen and he turned to his

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wife. He says, you have
a pen, can be a pen.

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I need a pen. Come on
to be a it's business. He says

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with his teeth bread business. Always
loved that. Like my brother and I

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every now and then say that to
each other, like Hey, could you

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can you hand me those pretzels?
It's business, Hey, defense council use

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that blackboard. Yes, thank you
yours. Ola. You should never assume,

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because when you assume, you make
an ass Hey, we're closing on

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the end of January. And this
is glop culture on John Punwar. It's

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in New York. Elsewhere in New
York Rob long I Rob Hi John,

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And in Washington d C. Jona
on Goldberg, Hi Jonah, Hey John,

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guys, I think I sent you
the other day the single greatest discovery

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I've ever made on Facebook. And
I have a bunch of bunch of all

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these like weird show busin nostalgia groups. Yeah, and uh. There's a

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guy named Cliff Nessarof who is a
historian of comedy Canadian and he just did

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he finds things you can't possibly imagine. So he finds this thing. Somewhere

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in Ontario in like nineteen seventy,
the McMaster players a production of The Odd

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Couple, and there are these two
pictures of these two guys that look dimly

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familiar but very very young and it
is Eugene Levy and Martin short In the

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Odd Couple Wow in nineteen seventy the
McMaster players in Ontario. Now, there

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are many reasons to want there to
be a time machine. Many things you

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would like to see that are traded
up. Maybe you want to see the

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Battle of Agincourt. Maybe you would
want to see, you know, the

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parting of the Red Sea. There
are all kinds of things you want to

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see. I myself, I focus
on the these minuscule moments in pop culture,

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Like I would love to go to
the production of The Odd Couple in

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the McMaster auditorium somewhere on Tario with
Martin shortyar the jam Levy what year Now,

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it's weird. I was alive in
nineteen seventy, So I think if

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I went back on a time machine
to nineteen seventy to do that, I

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would create that temporal anomaly that would
blow up the universe because I would be

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in two places at the same time
in the same Well, you don't visit

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yourself. You can't visit yourself.
You can't if you can, if you

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can be in the same timeline at
the same time, what does it matter

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whether you can visit yourself or not
the temporal anomaly has happened. I am

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not making a point of physics.
I am making a point about the rules

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of virtually every sci fi and content
movie, right, is that it's fine

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to go back in time, but
you can't interfere with yourself. That's all

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right. Interfere with yourself is like
another of a fantastic euphemism, because if

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you could go back in time,
you would it would be interesting to you

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know, yeah, to interfere with
yourself. Just with that, I don't

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even know what that would mean to
Hey, let me tell you something I

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think you'd say. I think you
you would say something like, you know

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that moment that you went up to
that girl at the high school dance and

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you asked You're there's going to be
a moment five years from now you're move

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up to a girl at the high
school dance and you're going to ask her

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out, and she's going to laugh
in your face, and it's going to

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haunt your nightmares for fifty years.
Okay, Like you know, Elizabeth Krueger,

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don't go up to her, Okay, because then you're not You're not

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like changing history. You're not doing
anything except sparing yourself pain, right,

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just don't you. So you're you're
going to use the technology that life universe

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changing technology of the time machine to
go back into time and inspire yourself to

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an act of cowardice. No an
act. Don't do that. No,

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no, no, no act of
an under prudence. Not go back and

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say, hey, listen, don't
let moral self care is what you're talking

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That's what I'm talking about. I
am saying that I love myself enough to

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spare myself unnecessary pain that has no
growth element to it whatsoever. So I

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really I don't want to. I
don't want to overly pick it up the

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scab about like do overs with females
and stuff. But if I were to

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go back in time there, mine
would be more of the Remember that girl

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you asked out and she said yes, but you didn't think she really wanted

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to, and so you didn't go
out with her, and then it turned

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out that she really did want you
to go out with her, and you

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blew that opportunity. I would say, follow through on a bunch of those

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kinds of situations that I got myself
in back. Yeah, which is a

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little different, But yes, I
got a question but no, but but

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see, then you could materially affect
your timeline. You really could. All

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you're doing here, it's like,
you know, there's a there's a there's

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gonna be a crack in the sidewalk, and you're gonna trip and skin your

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knee, and I just strip over
the crack in the sidewalk, and then

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you won't skin your knee, and
then you won't have Scarberry Like you'd still

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come back in the world to be
populated by dynasas because you because you did

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something to fly people, because you
did something to a butterfly. If you

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did, I'm going to assert I
don't you know, I don't like to

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feed your ego, but you are
more consequential than a butterfly. And if

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I went back in time and spared
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way, blow to your vanity and
you became a more confident person, heaven

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forbid, who knows? Who knows
what could happen to the world. So

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you're saying you could be in the
fourth term of the putt Arts administration multiple

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multiple time. I just love the
idea that you're going to use time machine

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technology instead of to go back and
strengthen yourself and tell yourself, you know

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you're all right. I know you're
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all right. You've got a lot
going for you got a big future head.

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Instead of that, you're gonna say, okay, this is an opportunity

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for you, just just a cower
to hide. Do not get your neck,

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because if you never believe yourself this
this person, old person shows up

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and says you're gonna be all right, and you're like, well, who

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the hell are you? And you
say, well, I'm you and you're

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like, I don't how do I
know I'm You're you? You could just

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who the hell are you? But
if you just say, look, there's

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gonna be this moment where there's this
girl, you're gonna just don't do it.

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Literally the saddest time, frankly,
but anyway, no, because you

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can't. You don't know what the
consequences of strangling baby. You don't know

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what the consequences of positive interference might
be. That's what I'm saying, Jonah,

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you just said you don't want to
strengthen me because God knows what I

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might do. I'm just saying,
spare yourself a little, a little curious

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little multiverse stuff which would show that
you wouldn't actually change your future, you

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would create a new one. But
anyway, that's fine. I have a

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question. I assume Martin Short was
cast as Felix. Well, I don't

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know. First of all, Martin
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actor. He won a Tony,
He's a he was a comedy star in

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the nineties. He did this show
Little Me. He was amazing. He

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was in The Good By the musical
l Eugene Levy. I don't think no,

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I'm just saying I don't know,
because I think Martin Shark could have

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been either. And if you look
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have been either. It's very hard
to tell. Well, it doesn't nineteen

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seventy, Yes, I think it's
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was much of an Oscar. The
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the Oscar was Jonah and I Jonah
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I might have come pretty close had
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I were clearly Oscars. We we
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the me and we have the form
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pulled the you know, pulled the
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and try to make you go that
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thought about very deeply in my late
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So I certainly yes, So you
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to spare yourself the lifelong humiliation and
mortification of the one moment rejection. One

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rejection, and you're there and then
within I really, how long does this

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po get going on? Within thirty
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want to be an actor. Do
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amount of rejection. Well, why
do you think I didn't become an actor.

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I literally, in my life teens, I said to myself, in

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my late teens, I'm going to
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I'm going to face rejection. I
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stories to The New Yorker and getting
rejected. I can't have two careers in

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which I'm going to be rejected ninety
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be soul killing. But I am
saying that I think we're kind of Oscars,

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You're kind of a Felix. This
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a little bit of a feeling Rob. If you were in the Odd Couple,

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would you be Felix? Yes,
yeah, I think so. I

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think that's that's I would think I
would prefer to you. I mean,

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which which part would I prefer to
play? Or which part do I play?

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In real life? So I'm not
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I think a great story is that
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the Odd Couple and Simon and he
says to Simon, you know, I

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love this play. I really want
to play Felix. And Simon says to

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math owt Walter, act on your
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it is it is a fantastic story. So, and so I'm saying,

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I don't know who you are in
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I wouldn't describe you as like fastidious
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I but but you are I would
say you are Okay, yeah, I

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agree with that. With that,
okay, so maybe we should do that.

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Maybe we should do a glot and
then you and I could be Felix

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and Oscar and Jonah could be Murray
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I don't know Murray the Cop.
It's a good part, particularly on the

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TV show Murray is a great part. Yeah, oh yes to the TV

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show is stick his nose into the
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on the door. When you could
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greed. Remember what what do you
call that? You know? The thing?

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John, I know, I know, I know. It's not a

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greeting hole. I literally didn't have
one on my door. But it used

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to be in New York apartments who
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pull it up and you could look
out and there's a yeah where someone rings

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on the door and you know,
wearings the doorbell and feel that. You

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know. Oscar goes to get the
door and he opens it and he says,

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who is it? And then this
nose appears in it, so they

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know it's it's Murray, Murray the
Cops. You don't have that kind of

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SNAs. You don't have that kind
of none of us has, none of

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us. I think I think you
get you a I could be speed a

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prosthetic. You could be speed.
I'm kind of speed on this podcast.

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I'm constantly impatient with you guys,
like why can't we get back to the

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game kind of thing. Yeah,
that's that's sort of more of my speed

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speed. But since we're talking about
casting and or miscast, So the other

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day I'm I catch Back to School
on TV, which I love, right,

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the Rodney Dangerfield movie, and and
I literally say out loud to myself,

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the kid, the kid who's cast, the guy who's cast as the

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kid is the worst past actor in
modern cinema. And then like yesterday or

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today, my friend Doug Anderson text
me totally out of the blue and says,

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for no praier reason, total non
secretary, and says, you know

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the kid that they the guy they
cast as the kid, and Back to

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School is the worst casting decision of
American cinema. So like it was just

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like this weird serendipity, and I
don't think there's ever been a character worst

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cast. Imagine this in terms of
the casting of Back to School, such

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which was directed by a guy who
never did anything ever again, I think

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his name was an Alan Mettter or
something like that, so who knows who

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he was he probably didn't really direct
it right. But so they bring in

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all these young actors, which means
they're all up for any part. That's

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how that's that's like, you know, it's like you can have him for

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this that it's like when they were
casting a Godfather and everybody read for everything.

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So who's in the supporting role and
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Who plays the friend. Robert Downey
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well, the idea is, of
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the idea. The idea behind that, of course, was that you wanted

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a nerdy guy that that needed.
It was a contrast to Rodney and there

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was a little bit too much offbeat
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I mean, I mean Keith Worton
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director. That's kind of where he
wanted to be anyway. But it was

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a hard part to play. It'd
be a good ad because it has one

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of the worst lines of dialogue in
all of cinema. Tread carefully, counselor

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it's one of the worst life as
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suggests that there's a university on Earth
in which the diving team is whatever he

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turns out for, like, oh
my god, you go to a big

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diving meet and of course there's a
big bully played by the young actor who's

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always playing the big bully. And
he turns to I, right, what

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the setup it? Hey, that's
the star of Cobra Kai right, right,

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it's right. And he turns to
Bill starts the shirts of Keith Gordon

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a jerk and he's a failure.
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you know what, I happen to
love the guy. Yeah, Like,

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how are you gonna like wa gi
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could be I don't know. Daniel
day Lewis couldn't sell that line. It's

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not his fault, so I wouldn't
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want to see Billy's, I've got
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drown them in the pool. Yes, yeah, in the yeah, during

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the big diving the big intercollegiate diving
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crazy. There's a great story about
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some point they sent the script to
Jerry Belson, who was a great a

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great comedy writer, and they wanted
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different kind of a different movie in
which Rodney it was the same kind of

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Rodney Datsfield character, except he was
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when he's going the plumber goes back
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snobs. And the script didn't work
and so Rodney so Jerry had three words,

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three three word billion dollar note,
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the whole movie around. But even
then, it's like, but if you

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see the movie, what I love
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they just didn't even think about making
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plays the the English professor who lowers
the drugs of the poetry and the movement

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everything, and then her her boyfriend
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he's some kind of professor and he
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tiny kill bear cat and ned Baty
is one of ned Baty's single greatest roles

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as the President because because he's not
but yeah, because he's not playing like

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a backwoods guy or like a slob, right, And there is that grade

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line. It's like, I can't
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sell out to this kind of vulgarity. And then that baby says, well,

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in all, uh, in all, it was a very big check,

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and thinking about thinking about what what
the presidents of Harvard, ken m

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I T and Columbia I've done to
their schools. It's like, please tear

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up the very big check. But
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and Baby just says, I really
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Great, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just love the guy that

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they're just like they You could just
see they had no time for you know,

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no one in the room or in
the story conference that you know.

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I really want to know if we
could activate that character a little bit more,

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maybe dig a little deeper. He
just seems like he's riding around in

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an expensive antique car with it he's
wearing plus fours all the time for some

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reason, and goggles. I think
he's goggles and his bearcat. So but

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yeah, but my point is,
like every character in that movie, you

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watch it and you just enjoy seeing
them on the screen, except except for

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the sun. Right. Yeah,
my friend whose roommate in college, they

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went to Emory and Kurt Vonnegut came
to speak at Emory, and then there's

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this long line for everybody to sign
Slaughterhouse five or whatever, and he brought

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the vhe to schoolsool. But the
greatest, the greatest joke in Back to

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Schools, of course, the Kurt
Vonnegut writes the paper on Kurt Vonnegut and

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he gets a bee. Yeah,
he gets a be. Do you know

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nothing? If I would, I
would like to like I would. I

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think I would want to have that
met a moment, the kid in line

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at Emory with the vhs of back
to School and then some plummy, you

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know, monocled professoration. Don't care
you bring that ridiculous video cassette to this

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literary event. How much? How
how circular, how you can make the

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how many you can get it?
How yeah, how you can follow it?

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Follow it back? You know?
I told speaking of college apropos nothing

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and not my own college. I
finally told this story on the commentary podcast.

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I'm going to tell it here because
I think it is so hilarious something

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that Alan Bloom, who was my
professor at the University of Chicago, and

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of course became a world famous as
the author of the Closing the American Mind.

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And then you did the Tripley.
But that's a different story. Yeah,

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yeah, no, no, no, it almost killed him. It

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almost killed him, the Triple Lindy. Anyway, So Alan Bloom was a

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professor of political theory and and political
philosophy and taught Plato and taught Rousseau and

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translated both of them and all of
that. And he was a very colorful

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character, gay, barely in the
closet, very flamboyant in his own way,

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and chain smoker. And he would
also he would he would he would

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wear these thousands of dollars suits and
then he would drip ash on them and

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burn holes in them and stuff like
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funny and very he told the story.

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He was a kid at the University
of Chicago in the forties. Chicago had

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this crazy Charlotte and president who wanted
to bring brilliant kids who didn't need high

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school right to campus, right to
college. Why were they wasting their lives

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in high school. He would take
them, pull them out of tenth grade,

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bring them to school. They were
the young scholar, young geniuses and

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lead the world. And Bloom,
who was from I think Cincinnati, was

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one of them, in the first
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Susan Sontag was another. Wow.
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together at the university. They're both
fifteen years old, right under age the

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Epstein's island but uh, the elect
version right. Well, so Bloom told

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this story and he was not out
of the closet yet, so, but

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of course Sontag was. Sontag was
known to be a lesbian by this point,

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though she had been married to this
famous professor, Philip Reef and had

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had a son, but she was
by this point servant out lesbian late seventies.

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I guess when he told me,
told the story, and and people

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who knew Blum and I knew he
was gay, but he didn't say he

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was gay. And Ballah, so
he's like, well, I you don't

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know this, but not my first
date was with Susan Sontag. So I

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said, really, your first day
was with Susan Sondag. He was like,

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yes, well, we we went
to we went to a dance together,

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and we were at at the dance
and I said to her, do

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you want some punch? And she
said yes, I love to have some

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punch. So I went over to
get punch and I came back and there

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she was dancing with a girl.
She was dancing with a girl, and

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I thought we were But that was
the first time I didn't know that girls

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could could dance with girls. And
I guess that was Susan expressing her true

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feelings, and of course Blew himself
was so I just loved this idea of

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Alan Blum and Susan Sontag closeted gay
and closeted lesbian teenager is on their first

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date together and then you know she
can't even like hide it for forty five

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minutes. That's why, though,
if I were blueing, I would go

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back in a time machine and say, you know, when you asked Susan

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Sontag to the dance, don't do
that. Maybe for a great story,

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Maybe you don't want to do it. Maybe the date though, was so

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terrible for both of them, they
both decided, you know what, it

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doesn't work. It is not for
me. This is not for me.

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That's how bad it was. It's
sort of like that movie with Geene Walder

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and Richard Pryor where one's blind and
the other one's death. It's meant el

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what's a great movie. I remember
seeing Hearing No Evil and there's a moment,

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there's a there's a huge plot flow
on it, and I only remember

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it at that moment. What happens
natual Pocket for a while. Here's why

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you'll understand why what I tell you
what it is because I don't remember the

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plot. But there's some moment at
which it becomes clear. I think Prior

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is the blind guy. I believe
he's the I believe he's the blind guy.

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Yes, okay, And like there's
a there's a thing where he and

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he and wildraft to get out of
some predicament or something, and for a

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minute you can see that he can
see. He like does something that a

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blind person couldn't have done, Like
he turns a corner something like that,

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and everybody in the theater went,
oh like that, Like a hundred people

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were like, hey, wait a
minute, I thought you said he was

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blind, you know like that?
So so that's all I remember except that

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Kevin Spacey was the villain. That's
was the villain in that. Really Wow,

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it has one of it has.
That's actually great. I don't know

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if I ever have I ever We've
talked about this joke already. This is

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great joke where they're driving somewhere and
uh, for some reason, Richard Pryor

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they're arguing over who's blind, who's
deaf and what that really means? And

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Richard Pryor says, are you sure
you're one deaf? Like if somebody yelled

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really loud in your ear, has
anybody ever done that? And want to?

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Says I'm deaf? Okay, no, no, no one's ever yelled

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in my ear, but no,
I'm deaf. And then Prior says,

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well, is it okay if I
try it? And he goes, yeah,

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you can try it, and then
Richer Pryor yells as loud as he

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can into Gene Wilder's ear. Can
you here this? Yells at screeps,

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and then Gene Wanter goes, wait, do that again? He does it

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again because oh my god, I
think I heard something. To it again?

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Does it again? Juny thing?
I think I think I heard something.

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I think I heard something, and
Richard Price really heard something, and

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you want to turn it to them
with venoms is No, I didn't hear

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about We've talked about a movie from
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movie from like nineteen eighty eight.
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eleven nominations, and I hated it
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daughter though it, and it sounds
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didn't see it. I mean,
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there's like a like a fanciful Frankenstein's
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Stone, and what she discovers is
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have like an hour of her having
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and having sex with vegetables, and
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sex. And there came a point
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movie, and I had this moment
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movie I've ever seen of any individual
human body that I can remember, and

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she's maybe gonna win an Oscar for
it, and I sort of thought we

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were beyond past this. It's like
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like some weird throwback to you know, in like Flint or something like that,

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where women are just paraded as sex
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it's empowering, and I didn't think
it was funny. And I really hated

405
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.039
it, and it got nominated for
eleven Oscars. But I saw Killers of

406
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:36.079
the Flower Moon and despised it,
I mean really despised it. And now,

407
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.279
why didn't you despise it? Well, so look, I haven't read

408
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.160
the book, but my wife read
the book. A couple of my colleagues

409
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.680
read the book. We did a
Dispatch book club about the book. It's

410
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.079
supposed to be a fantastic book.
It's a thriller. It's kind of a

411
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:52.359
who Done it on page turner?
And first of all, it was an

412
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.839
hour too long. But second of
all, you know who the murderer is

413
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:02.440
in the first thirty minutes. And
there Look, every movie, there are

414
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.599
lots of movies where there are some
scenes that could have been in a different

415
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:10.559
order, But in this movie,
it's like eighty percent of the scenes you

416
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:12.400
could have just thrown up in the
air and put it in the reverse order

417
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.720
and it would have been the same
thing. Oh, another Indian got killed.

418
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:23.039
That's sad. And the main character, Leo DeNardo Leonardo DiCaprio character is

419
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:30.079
a terrible character who, like we're
supposed to believe, both loves his wife

420
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:40.200
and wants to kill her and we
never really get what's what's unbelievable about that?

421
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:47.240
And uh yeah, and it basically
it, you know, like it

422
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:52.599
takes. I have no problem with
movies to tell us that white men did

423
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.000
bad things in America in the past, but like I've you know what,

424
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.920
you know what, I've heard that
before. And so if you're going to

425
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.519
make a movie, pret you could
get three and a half hour long movie

426
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:09.279
with basically no character development. All
of the characters are unpleasant to watch,

427
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.440
you know, the the Native American
lady, she was a good actress,

428
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.400
did a good job, but she's
kind of yeah, but you know,

429
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.400
root you only root for her because
she's kind of pathetic and sad and and

430
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.599
and a victim. There's no one
to root for. There's nothing to root

431
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.359
for because you've or to like,
I wonder how it's going to turn out.

432
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:34.920
So it's just it's just it's like
a plane circling an airport where the

433
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.920
captain is just keeps telling you white
supremacy is bad, capitalism is bad,

434
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.799
America did bad things, and it's
like all right, you know, but

435
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.319
like this is not entertaining. So
I saw it, and here's my thought

436
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.599
about it. First of all,
all we ever hear about it is,

437
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.599
Oh, Martin Sca say he's a
master. It's such a master. The

438
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.920
man is a master. He is
the master. Now he has more Oscar

439
00:32:55.039 --> 00:33:00.640
nominations than any living director, and
he's a master. And in the last

440
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.480
third of the movie there's a trial, and it turns out when they start

441
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.799
cross examining people that there are three
different geographical locations in which the story is

442
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:17.640
taking place. Three different towns,
have three different names. I did not

443
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:23.880
know that until three hours into the
movie that they weren't all living kind of

444
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.880
like within three blocks of each other. And there's this whole thing about how

445
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.119
well, we can't arrest him here
because he's in Pixley and he's not in

446
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:37.160
Petticoat Junction, and they don't establish
that Pixley is over here, Petticoat Junction

447
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:43.119
is over there. It's like elementary
storytelling one oh one, where you say,

448
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.000
these people live here, these people
live here, these people live here,

449
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.640
and the people that live here are
going to do something. People will

450
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.039
live over here, then they're going
to go back and hide over there.

451
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.920
And so, first of all,
I thought it was incompetent exactly what you

452
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.160
describe, which is the scenes are
in kind of weird order. DiCaprio is

453
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.359
literally twenty five years too old for
his part. He is playing a returning

454
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:14.119
World War One veteran and he is
forty eight years old. Yeah and so

455
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.519
and she's I don't know how old
she is, lily glad some of the

456
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:22.880
places. But he's supposed to be
a pretty boy that she in like a

457
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.159
sex object for her. And granted, Leonardo DiCaprio is a very a movie

458
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.840
star and a very good looking guy. But I didn't see anything like this

459
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.239
since since like James Stewart at the
beginning of The Man Who Shot Liberty Balance

460
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.599
is supposed to be like twenty three
riding out to the West for his first

461
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:45.519
posting, he is like sixty years
old. And you know, john Ford

462
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.719
is so old he didn't even like
they couldn't even figure out makeup and now

463
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.559
you could dage people and stuff like
that. But DiCaprio just looks like he's

464
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.559
like closing in on fifty. Yeah, just back from the war. You

465
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:02.719
know. It's like, are you
kidding me? And he wasn't supposed to

466
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.400
play that part. That's the great
story of the movie. The great story

467
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.519
of the movie is they were going
to make the movie as as David Granton's

468
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.360
book is written, which is it's
about the foundation. The founding. One

469
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:20.039
of the founding events of the FBI
was an investigation into this this death spree

470
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:24.000
in Osage County in Oklahoma, that
an agent named Frank White was sent out

471
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:32.559
to Oklahoma to investigate and figured out
that these that this family mafia was marrying

472
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:40.079
and killing off women who had land
rights or oil rights to lands where oil

473
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:46.360
was located, and they were seizing
them essentially through marriage and then killing off

474
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:52.719
the women. And this was such
an amazing feat of investigative brilliance that it

475
00:35:53.119 --> 00:36:00.800
may helped make the FBI. And
that's the part that DiCaprio supposed to play.

476
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:07.920
And then literally Black Lives Matter happens, and he and Scorsese look at

477
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.239
each other and they're like, we're
telling the wrong story. We're telling a

478
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.679
white savior story. We can't tell
it. We had to tell a story

479
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:22.039
about the viciousness and monstrous behavior toward
the Native Americans, and therefore we have

480
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:27.960
to turn this around not introduce the
FBI until like two and a half hours

481
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.440
into the movie. And then Leo, you're still the lead, because you're

482
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.440
the reason we can sell the movie
to Apple for two hundred million dollars.

483
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.679
You have to play the villain who's
an idiot, unattractive character and uninteresting,

484
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:46.039
and he's like okay, And the
movie is then rewritten, yeah, into

485
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:53.000
this story about a moron and his
vicious uncle doing terrible things to these o

486
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:59.480
sage women that they also supposed to
are supposed to like for three and a

487
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.119
half hours. Yes, it's a
disgrace. The other thing that I really

488
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.639
resent, right because there are a
lot of people there's a cult of Scorsese,

489
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.079
and scorsesees made some great movies.
I think he's made a mistake and

490
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.599
putting DiCaprio in like seventy five percent
of them. But that's another story.

491
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:23.280
Remember the Seinfeld where Blaine just rebels
on the fatwah that everyone must love the

492
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:28.960
English patient Patient. Yes, every
time DiCaprio comes out with the movie,

493
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.480
not the Dicabrio. Wh every time
Scarcese comes out with the movie, I'm

494
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.079
told in advance I have to love
it or I don't know anything about film,

495
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.639
and I resent it and the way
he lobbies and does these media campaigns

496
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:45.480
to get an Oscar nominations and to
get Oscars. It just feels like manufactured

497
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:52.400
consent. It feels like sort of
cultural bullying, and I resent it and

498
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.840
it makes me dislike some movies that
I have to watch like years later and

499
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.039
without that resentment hanging over me to
like finally like like a little bit more.

500
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:06.440
Well, my favorite party, by
the way, is ahead. Sorry.

501
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:10.760
Sorry, My favorite part of it
was just the the announcement and the

502
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.320
Hollywood Reporter. The original version of
the original paragraph of Holly from the Hollywood

503
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:21.320
Reporter before they changed it when they
announced that, like Lily Gladstone was nominated,

504
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:27.280
said, Gladstone is the first acting
nominee who hails from people indigenous to

505
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.119
the land now occupied by the United
States. Occupied by the United States.

506
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:42.719
Yeah, f Richard Rushfield said,
his guess was the J. Penske,

507
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.800
the owner of the Hollywood Report,
said, what the hell is this?

508
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.519
Well, we don't know that because
that's what the United States. Yeah,

509
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:58.960
okay, yeah, okay. I
will say this one thing, which is

510
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.599
that Robertson Narrow Will looks very good. He's eighty, he looks fantastic,

511
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:08.599
look very handsome. It's good glasses. He's wearing very cod agrees with him.

512
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:17.960
He he does an accent, and
it's many things, but I don't

513
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:23.159
think it's an Oklahoma accent. It's
kind of like if I asked my thirteen

514
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:29.360
year old son, after watching five
episodes of The Dukes of Hazard, to

515
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.000
imitate one of the Dukes of Hazard. That's what it sounds like. It's

516
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:37.880
like, you don't know where they're
gonna come get you there, layo,

517
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:45.800
I don't know how what Oklahoma's you? Like if you look at the credits,

518
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.920
when the crawl runs, you get
the screen or it's easy to stop

519
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:57.280
and freeze it, says dialogue coach
Dick Van Dyke. So that's how you

520
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:04.760
know. So it anyone outraged by
the Oscar snub of Margot Robbie. I

521
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:09.239
love Margot. I love Margot Robbie. I thought she was adorable in In

522
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:15.639
Barbie and I certainly I thought it
was a better performance than Carrie Mulligan's and

523
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:21.519
Maestro she who got nominated who was
you know, florid and terrible. But

524
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:28.199
you know, there's no outrage like
who gives a this is the Oscars for

525
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:35.880
God's sake, Like it's a bunch
of show business morons trying to you know,

526
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.320
dare guess at what are you a
voter? I'm I'm not an Oscar

527
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.599
voter. No, so I don't
include you are therefore not included in my

528
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.519
denial. Well, but I say, how dare you? Because that's what

529
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.559
we say in show business with how
dare you? It's it's an institution.

530
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.880
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
But my favorite Oscar voting quote was from

531
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.639
I think it was from Anne Miller. Remember, and no ambulism. You

532
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.039
know, now she's to cease,
but she's some ancient show business figure from

533
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:07.119
a million years ago. And when
they were but this is like in the

534
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.440
early days when they weren't setting out. Everybody wasn't getting video cassettes or see

535
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.760
DVDs or what we get now are
logins for these for awards season. And

536
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.800
somebody said have you seen them?
Because the scandal was that they're all these

537
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.079
old people, these old academymbers,
just voting for who they liked, and

538
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.079
they weren't seeing the movies. And
so someone you know, cornered Anne Miller

539
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.000
at a party and or at a
red carpet or something event and said,

540
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.679
hey, Anne Miller, have you
seen any of the movies this year?

541
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.280
And she said, no, I
haven't seen any of them. I said,

542
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:43.039
well, are you going to vote
this year? She said yes,

543
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.519
it's just so important to the young
people, so she would go. She

544
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.320
would just kind of vote, Which
is why that whenever you know, you

545
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.000
could just you can sometimes predict everyone
who's going to get nominated. Everyone's gonna

546
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.639
win, you know, just based
on you think, just what would a

547
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.480
who would have really old Ann Miller
vote for? And that's usually who won.

548
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:05.920
Robert, you're going to read an
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549
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big news in television over the last
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584
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:16.920
tell, uh for people who you
know for watching Prestige TV, is the

585
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:23.480
return of the HBO show True Detective. The season four which is called Night

586
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Country and is set in a town
in Alaska that has just gone dark,

587
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:36.960
uh for you know, it has
really it's so far north that it descends

588
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:44.599
into into into perpetual night. And
they've just discovered there's a sort of scientific

589
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:50.559
research station and something untoured is going
on there and the cops in town who

590
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.280
are Jodie Foster and John Hawks,
the great character actor and a couple of

591
00:44:53.320 --> 00:45:00.559
other people are all that Dagger's drawn
with each other. Episodes have come out,

592
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.559
and I don't think either of you
guys have seen it yet. So

593
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.480
I'm I, I really I'm enjoying
it. Have you seen it? No,

594
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.239
I haven't seen it. I just
hear it theorters. Okay, but

595
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.079
I don't know. Well, I'm
really enjoying it. But here's here's the

596
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.960
thing about it. So if you
remember the first season, which was like

597
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:21.960
a total sensation. It was Matthew
McConaughey and Woody Howson and the whole thing

598
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.760
was there. There were there were
three there were two or three timelines.

599
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.320
You saw them young and fifteen years
later or something like that. And there

600
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.800
was this murder, unsolved murder over
fifteen years, and there seemed to be

601
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.800
a supernatural component to it, and
there was a lot of supernatural their hints,

602
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:46.960
and there's cult and all sorts of
stuff. And then everybody went crazy

603
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:52.599
with the theories and the theories about
the cults and everything, the articles about

604
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.559
it and blog posts about it and
all of this, and then and then

605
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:59.599
it just turned out there was some
backwoods guy who like was having processed with

606
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:05.480
this there and captured people and and
and just and and shot shot matthewmcconaughey a

607
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:10.920
bunch of times, and then and
then everything was right. And so I

608
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:15.519
think this is going in exactly the
same direction, which is there's a lot

609
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:24.239
of supernatural stuff, and were supernatural
hints, and like the great trick reveal

610
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:31.079
would be that they're happening right,
not that they're not happening, but some

611
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:37.079
turns out somebody has left the walkie
talkie behind a wall or something. I

612
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.400
heard a bunch of writing teachers want
to talk about, you know the there

613
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:45.840
there were students ever, and one
was I think was taught some e you

614
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:52.360
see like CENTIY class and mystery writing
said that the worst, the worst mystery

615
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.119
reveal they ever read in class was, you know, this person was reading

616
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.599
the last couple of scenes of the
mystery and then all the all the suspects

617
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:06.480
are in a room and the cop
is going through the you know it's going

618
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.400
to be that big scene where the
copp reveals you did it, and suddenly

619
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.000
the door opens and an unknown person
runs in. This person they've never seen

620
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.960
before he goes, I'm the one
who killed that girl, and he jumps

621
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:24.199
out the window to his death.
I think it's kind of a great it's

622
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:28.679
a great way out of the problem, which is you gotta figure ou who

623
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.840
did it. I have not watched
the Addictive yet. We're saving them up

624
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.719
so we can watch them, you
know, in rapid Fire. But started

625
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:44.360
the latest season a Fargo. Well, I'm really enjoying, Like it's interesting,

626
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:49.320
holds your attention. They're doing some
interesting sort of callbacks to the movie,

627
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.159
but not doing it in the way
that you think. John Ham's really

628
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:58.320
good in it. And I can't
remember the name of the actress. She's

629
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:05.000
the Temple, Yeah, Temple,
who's from Uh gosh, my brain is

630
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:10.280
not working today. She was in
Soccer Coach movie TV show London, the

631
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:15.639
English ted Lassos ted Lasso. She
was in the Offer. Yeah, she's

632
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:21.320
the publicist, the sexy publicist in
ted Lasso, and she does well.

633
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.079
And it's I don't I think it's
pretty good so far. And I love

634
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.760
Reacher. Have you guys watched Reacher? Oh? You love it? Really?

635
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.639
I do, because it's great.
It does not ask a lot.

636
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:37.800
I like the first season and I
really don't like this season because so this

637
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:45.280
season he had a bunch of his
old army buddies get together to investigate the

638
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:52.239
fact that one of their number of
somebody's killing friends was like was dropped out

639
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:57.920
of literally dropped out of an airplane. And and I think as as as

640
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:01.960
our friend Sonny Bunch has said,
the thing about Reacher is the books,

641
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.760
which are the lead Child books,
which I've read a bunch of. The

642
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.679
whole thing is he's this giant man. He like, he's like he wanders

643
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:14.519
into a town, he goes to
a he goes to a two other goodwill,

644
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:16.559
and he buys a pair of pants
and a shirt, and then he

645
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.960
just kills everybody who does bad things. And then he leaves and he goes

646
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.480
on to another town. And this
one is like he's with a group of

647
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.719
friends, and I'm not interested in
Reacher with a group of friends. I

648
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:30.119
want him to come to town.
I want him to figure out that there's

649
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.599
some crappy stuff going on. He's
got to pick up a girl and have

650
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.039
sex with her the motel room,
and then he's gonna like figure out how

651
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:43.519
fully dollars out of an ATM,
and then he's going to kill the rich

652
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.960
man in town who is being bad
to everybody, and then hitch a ride

653
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.639
out out of town. And so
there's too much. Sure you're asking,

654
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.679
but you can imagine the meeting though, when they, like, you know,

655
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.639
they're sitting around doing the you know, one more season of Reachers.

656
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.840
Hear the executives doesn't have to be
anybody saying, I guess I want to

657
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.400
know more about him. I think
we want to know more about him.

658
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:14.880
What's his what makes him tick?
What's his wound? Yes, so here's

659
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:19.119
my question to you guys about Alan
Richson who plays Reacher. Of course,

660
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:23.480
famously, Tom Cruise made two movies
as Jack Reacher, which was hilarious because

661
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.800
in the books, Jack Richard is
six' five, two hundred and thirty

662
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.079
pounds. He is a man mountain
who can like literally like take a car

663
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.639
and tear in half. That's that, that's who he is. And Tom

664
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.760
Cruise played movies and Tom Cruise is
four foot three and weighs one hundred pounds.

665
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.760
He struggles with those meters every day. So the whole gimmick was people

666
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.679
underestimate him because they think he's little, but then he beats them up or

667
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:52.559
whatever. So they find. They
found this guy who has actually been bouncing

668
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.320
around Hollywood for fifteen years. He
was one of the hundred Team babies.

669
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.599
I saw him the other day and
I was like, oh, Reacher.

670
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:07.119
Yeah, So I have this question
for you. Is he a really good

671
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:15.079
actor playing you know, this very
unusual part in which he has an inner

672
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.920
life we're not really privy to and
that's the whole point. Or is he

673
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.400
the worst actor who's ever lived and
he just like landed in, you know,

674
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:28.559
in the perfect He's just the perfect
specimen for the part and he's like

675
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:34.440
an AI generated character almost. I
don't know which the answer is, because

676
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:39.079
he's very effective in the part,
But I think he's a terrible actor maybe,

677
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.960
or maybe he's not. I don't
know if you guys watch much community,

678
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:51.119
but yeah, yeah, remember the
actor who plays Ned Ryerson from groundhegh

679
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:57.760
Day. Yeah, he's the he's
the cinema teacher professor at at Greendale Community

680
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.119
College and he teaches a whole class
on whether or not Nick Cage was a

681
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:06.920
good actor, and it's fantastic,
and trying to figure it out nearly kills

682
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:15.440
abed. That's kind of how I
feel about it. It's like it's it's

683
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.960
it's much better casting than the kid
from Back to School, and so far

684
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:25.880
as like it's a low bar,
you know what, I actually because I

685
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.559
think you're both I think you're both
being unfair because I saw this is obscure,

686
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:37.559
But I did see a production in
which the Reacher guy played Oscar and

687
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.440
Keith Gordon played Felix, and they
were both terrific. They were both terrific,

688
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:49.599
and he played the dinner. Yeah. The thing about that is,

689
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.719
I say, like it is not
an unusual part. It's a very usual

690
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.360
part. It's like these days,
that's why these these shows are like,

691
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.760
I mean, that's why they work. They're so good. It's like a

692
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.119
guy comes and he's mysterious and he's
sort of unkillable, and if you could

693
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:06.360
only get his phone number and you
can only be where he is, he's

694
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.760
the equalizer. He's you know,
it's taken, but he's not you know,

695
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.800
it's not his daughter. It's a
sound of Freedom, but it's not

696
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.960
some random kid from you know,
Columbia. It's a it's like somebody,

697
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:22.360
it's somebody in your life. And
that that's incredibly, incredibly attractive. Just

698
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:27.719
the equalizer movies, I think they
have four of them or five of them.

699
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:34.079
With Denzel Washington make goadjillions of bajillions
of kajillions of dollars. And I'll

700
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.199
tell you, if you have a
Friday night and you're kind of like feeling

701
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.000
like you've got the flu or something, as I did a few weeks ago,

702
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:44.239
you can order up some really really
great food from around the corner and

703
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.119
door dash, well you can.
You can double dash it and have the

704
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.719
dasher pick up your food and then
go to ben Lewin ice Cream and get

705
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.599
you some ice cream and he'll bring
you all the things you need, plus

706
00:53:54.719 --> 00:54:00.840
uh two or three episodes of The
Equalizer, and you're thing is done and

707
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:08.039
it's a fantastic eating So and if
we went back in our time machine to

708
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:14.960
nineteen ninety eight and lived in New
York, we could use Cosmo dot com,

709
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.119
which would not only bring you the
food and not only bring you the

710
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:23.320
ice cream, but would bring you
the video for the video store all together.

711
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.199
It was the greatest thing ever.
It marks for one hundred million dollars,

712
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:34.119
and then it closed because there was
no revenue stream. It was just

713
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.400
here, let us bring you a
video and some food, and you pay

714
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:44.760
a dollar surcharge because we're trying to
corner the market with no actual revenue,

715
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.199
so we'll burn through the money.
But there was now you have to have

716
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:52.400
all these multiple things you got to
do. You got to like find it

717
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.239
on your streaming service and which streaming
service it is, and all that very

718
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:00.280
annoying. I watched Equalizer three on
a plane. I liked it. Don't

719
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.960
which I liked it. No,
I really liked it, but I thought

720
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.239
I thought was And so this one
is he's in a town in Italy,

721
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.480
right, That's that's the story of
this one is. And so he goes

722
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:16.519
this town and he's this very o
CD sort of autistic guy. But somehow

723
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.480
he connects to the people in this
town. He learns to love to help

724
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.480
them, and he learns and he
wants to help them. And then there

725
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:30.440
are of course these terrible mafiosian And
one thing about the villains and movies like

726
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:36.000
this and like John Wick and stuff
like that is it's always like, I

727
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:40.639
don't care how many people are going
to be killed. Destroy that man.

728
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:47.719
You know, you see didn't you
see that in the last scene he's singlehandedly

729
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.960
murdered twenty people. Like rudents might
be a what maybe you want to like

730
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:59.440
booby trap his car, or like
don't come at him, don't come at

731
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.960
him front, like this is not
him for tax evasion exactly exactly right,

732
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:08.199
right right right? Get get him
on reliable on those charges, yeah,

733
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:15.880
you know. And then also the
idea of all these guys like get him,

734
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:19.360
they did the last john Wick to
get and they're all on their own.

735
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.159
They all have these motorcycles like like
go to the go to that garage

736
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:28.960
where we have seventy five motorcycles that
look alike and they all are fully armed

737
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:32.159
in the same way, Like what
were you what were you planning to do

738
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.039
if john Wick hadn't showed up?
Like what what is all this ordinance for?

739
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.599
And then of course yeah none if
it works, Yeah, well John

740
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:45.360
john Wick four is a is a
masterpiece of some I mean, it's incredibly

741
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:52.000
stupid, but there there there has
where I mean it is just the scene

742
00:56:52.000 --> 00:57:00.360
at the end of john Wick four
where he just rolls down the parents over

743
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.360
and over and over and over again, I mean, and has to keep

744
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:08.599
trying to climb up them like a
bugs Bunny car. It's like an combining

745
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:14.960
a bugs Bunny cartoon with a really
really beautifully filmed action sequence. Well,

746
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.000
it's the it's the it's the action
sequence of the the Laurela Hardy music box

747
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.679
right right exactly, the piano,
the stairs. So the thing. So

748
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.840
for I love the John movies,
particularly the first one and the fourth one.

749
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:34.800
I love that because one dude killed
a guy's dog, thousands of people

750
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.320
must die. Yeah, which I
just I want I want that to be

751
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:44.960
a lesson throughout the culture. But
you can tell how successful they are in

752
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.840
beguiling you, but in sourceling you
into. The whole premise of this thing

753
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.000
is that by the fourth one,
you don't even question that they have these

754
00:57:53.039 --> 00:58:00.679
perfectly tailored, utterly bulletproof Italian suits
that all you have to do to stop

755
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:07.559
a bullet is hold up your lapel
right right. Jacket doesn't even like it

756
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:09.920
ends very much when it gets in
my bullets, you know, I mean,

757
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:14.719
it's very impressive. It also feels
like that's speaking. I'm obsessed.

758
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.079
I always obsessed with the meeting that
must have taken place to get to that.

759
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.840
That's when someone says, uh,
you know, after the meeting,

760
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:22.599
Okay, great, we're gonna go
to Paris. We're gonna have the thing

761
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:24.400
and the go around the Dartsy Tree
office to be great. We got a

762
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:30.960
question. All those people like they're
shooting and shooting and shooting. It's like,

763
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.199
you know, it just feels like
one of us bullets has got to

764
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:38.280
hit john Wick right, like even
if it bounces off of something like it's

765
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:43.079
like the intern. It's like the
the pa is bringing them all their lunch,

766
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.559
their turkey wraps and saying, have
you guys figured out how the workichtes

767
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.639
don't hit john Wick yet? And
they'll can look at you and go,

768
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:52.199
okay, it's a special kind of
suit. It's a magic suit. Get

769
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:58.079
out of here, you're fired that
yeah. Uh, you know. I'm

770
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.920
reminded of of a friend who he
was a movie producer and he was he

771
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:07.239
was asked to consult on another friend
of his had made this little independent movie

772
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:13.400
called Safety Not Guaranteed with Aubrey Plaza
and Jake Johnson. It's all about a

773
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:17.079
journalist at a paper in Portland who
finds a crazy person who says that he's

774
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.400
figuring out again like how to travel
through time or build a spaceship. I

775
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:25.760
can't remember what it is. And
he's he's a conspiracy theorist and she's going

776
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:30.559
to be a portrait of this guy
and he's a lunatic and then she kind

777
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.800
of like falls in love with him
and they're each have trauma and all this

778
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.519
and that, and then the movie
ends, and my friend was asked what

779
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:42.679
his note is and he said,
well, you can't. You can't leave

780
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.840
it like this. I mean,
he's got to be right, he's got

781
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.519
to be right that a spaceship is
going to they're going to go off into

782
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.840
the stars together, like otherwise,
very just has to end with Santa being

783
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:58.519
Santa, right, right. So
so, and this, of course was

784
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.760
a little indie movie that was supposed
to be heartwarming and whatever and be sun

785
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.719
dancy, and so this science fictional
ending or fantasy ending wasn't the sert thing

786
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:13.079
that was attached to it. But
my friend's advice was heated. They went

787
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:16.000
back and they shot a new ending, and the new ending they fly off

788
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.880
to the stars together or something like
that. And the director of that movie

789
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.559
was Colin Trevora, and as a
result of making that movie, he then

790
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:29.800
got Jurassic World, which was a
you know, and is now the director

791
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.159
of the Jurassic World movies. And
had he been left to his own devices.

792
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.039
He would have made this movie with
Aubrey Plaza and Jake Johnson. That

793
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.599
would have made one hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars, and Steven Spielberg wouldn't

794
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:44.599
have seen it and said, that's
the guy I want to do to make

795
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:51.000
Jurassic World. Anyway. That's the
what if True Detective actually becomes a supernatural

796
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.280
story, Like that's actually where it
should go, because there are too many

797
01:00:54.320 --> 01:01:00.679
red herrings they're supernatural, and that
would actually be a trick because is like

798
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.480
you've seen before that they haven't done
that. You know that they've gone this

799
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:07.199
way. It's always a Scooby Do
ending. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

800
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.440
Yeah, but I can also see
that too because you think, oh it's

801
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.800
Scooby Do ending. It feels arbitrary. It feels like, well, once

802
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:19.119
you do that, then you then
you're basically telegraphing to the audience. There's

803
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.000
no way you can have figured it
out to begin with, and a lot

804
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.239
of people are trying to figure it
out, so you kind of you know,

805
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:31.079
every ending that isn't that isn't uh
instantly apparent from the minute it's revealed,

806
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:36.360
ends up feeling like guy running in
the room. I'm the one that

807
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.440
killed that girl. And then up
Sometimes they stick the landing sixth sense stuck

808
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:45.360
the landing, right, yeah,
And the ultimate landing stick, of course,

809
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.519
is Back to the Future, which, yeah, and you saw it

810
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:57.000
and I probably saw it opening night, and you would never seen anyone pull

811
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.360
this off. Right. He goes
back in time and told himself not to

812
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.079
ask that. And the whole thing
is you're not supposed to do anything to

813
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.800
interfere with that thing, right,
No, No, we're familiar with the

814
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:12.039
theory. Yeah, we discussed it. Yeah, recaller just a short while

815
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.280
ago. Right. Anyway, if
you went back in time, did that

816
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:20.400
future stuck landing the way? I
don't know that any movie had ever quite

817
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:25.000
stuck a landing before, because it
imagine, imagine, imagine John Fodoritz having

818
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:31.320
done that, like and coming back
you'd be we would you'd be talking to

819
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:37.000
us from your swank bachelor pad like
weird esquivel music in the back, and

820
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.760
you'd be smoking it's a little time
I want to thin cigar cigarillos and saying

821
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.679
this is this episode of glop has
brought to you by Tommy John Underwear.

822
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:51.239
I of course don't wear underwear.
It would have been like So, speaking

823
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:57.119
of stick and landing, I'm curious, do you guys think the ending and

824
01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:00.639
spoiler for people out there it's a
twenty five year old, thirty year old

825
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:06.519
movie, No Way Out where it
turns out Kevin Costner was Ivan at the

826
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.440
end? Yeah, do you think
that they gave you enough hints that that

827
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.960
was going to turn out to be
true? Or do you think, as

828
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.840
my father did at the time,
they could have had a reveal where it

829
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:22.320
turned out he was from the planet
Kleptu because there was there was no suggestion

830
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:27.079
that that was what was going on. Well, I mean they weren't searching

831
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.960
the planegon for an alien for the
planet Cleptu, to be fair, Yeah,

832
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:37.360
fair, Okay. I thought it
was a great ending. And actually,

833
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.320
if you see it a second time, there are clues. They're very

834
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:45.360
there are there are clues the second
they're slight and and I I liked it

835
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:52.920
so much that I forgave it the
horrible geographic mistakes that they make. One

836
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.079
anyone who lives in DC always talks
about that. Yeah. The journey of

837
01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:01.840
Kevin Costner in the various chase scenes
is very upsetting. Yeah, it's very

838
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:08.599
upsetting because it violates all rules of
space, time and the metro. But

839
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:13.480
I've seen it since and there are
a couple of things about that movie,

840
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:17.880
and the main thing is that Gene
Hackman, we're one of the great actors

841
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.159
and one of the most subtle actors
that therever was, has this moment in

842
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:30.159
it which is the perfect act perfect
moment depicting Washington ever, which is that

843
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.039
he is introduced to Kevin Costner,
who's in his white uniform, by his

844
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:39.679
aid and he's the Secretary of Defense, and they're in the ballroom at Ashorm

845
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:44.760
Hotel, and he shakes his hand
and he doesn't look at him because he's

846
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:48.679
scanning the room to see who else
is there, to see who's more important

847
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.440
that he has to go talk to. And it is the best, HOLLYO

848
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:58.119
is the best Hollywood depiction of Washington
that has ever been done. That one.

849
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.199
That's Hollywood dipiction of ten By the
way, there you go, fair

850
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:05.920
enough. But this ten second moment, which is every person's experience at every

851
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:11.639
party in Washington ever, unless you
are the President of the United States,

852
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:15.639
if you are having a conversation with
somebody, that person is immediately looking to

853
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.599
see if there's somebody else more important
that he should go suck up with.

854
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.440
It could be your best friend,
it could be your sister, it could

855
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:27.679
be your mother. It doesn't matter
who it is. There's got to be

856
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:33.320
somebody more important to talk to.
And that's that's why I love that so

857
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.239
much. Are we done with the
oscars? We have nothing else to say,

858
01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.599
nothing to say about the oscars.
Not really. I mean I'm eager

859
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:48.920
to see all of the the animated
shorts. Our uniform interested in that.

860
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:53.360
Funny when you see the list of
them, it's like every now and then

861
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.679
someone will say to me like,
oh, you've meet this first, or

862
01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:00.519
packed pachyderm, would you meet this? They have like three oscars. Three

863
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:08.679
oscars for what it's usually things like
it well, best animated short, the

864
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:15.039
best live action short, that's action
documentary short is the category. It's like

865
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:20.519
he spent three years right on a
mountaintop in Carpathia, right, you can

866
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:27.480
always follow and the most the most
pretentious actor in the in the oscars had

867
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.679
to tell us the most pretentious one, you know, the Mark Ruffalo of

868
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.679
the will be the one applauding the
loudest, like it was a wonderful film.

869
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:39.800
You did not seat or our uniform. I feel bad for like,

870
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:43.920
you know, there's always some guy, whether it's actually clamation or the equivalent

871
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:48.920
thereof, but somebody who actually spent
like years moving the left hand on the

872
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:56.840
clay thing, taking a still shot
another still shot, putting it together alone,

873
01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:00.440
eating soup out of a can,
and he doesn't win. You know,

874
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:03.480
it's like, what are those fours? Well, at least he got

875
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:09.440
a trip to you got a trip
to Hollywood because he's probably from Romania and

876
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:14.119
he got to he got to see
Hollywood. So that's one. That's one.

877
01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.039
One. Great to see some guy
take a dump outside of Grammin's Chinese

878
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:23.559
Theater, yes, which is by
way. You can see it any day

879
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.239
of a week, exact. Yeah, yeah, but you know it's it's

880
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:31.119
special, it's very it's very special. So Jonah, are you where can

881
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.000
people see you? Or are you
one? Are you doing the Chris Wallace

882
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:42.360
Show? I do it intermittently.
I'm oh, I am the third conservative

883
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:46.719
who subs in either It's always been
so far for Kristin Sultan Sanderson. But

884
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:50.679
it's either Ryan or Christ is exactly
how I would have it. So I

885
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:55.719
don't have to do it every week, and so I don't know what I'm

886
01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.000
next on and I'm on CNN in
the evening a couple of times next week

887
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.679
week, but you know, it
is what it is, Rob Martini Shot.

888
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:08.320
Every week. You can read it, you can listen, but I

889
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:12.360
prefer you to listen to it because
reading it it doesn't I mean, you

890
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.800
can read if you want, but
it's kind of choppy because I just basically

891
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:21.159
write what I say and that doesn't
always make sense on the page or anywhere

892
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:25.359
else. But you listen to it. It's available from the Ankler. It's

893
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:29.920
also available from Apple podcast wherever you
get your fine podcast. Martini Shot.

894
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:33.079
It's only I keep them fourteen minutes, I promise. Yeah, I try

895
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:35.199
to keep them nice and short.
You can listen to two of them if

896
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:38.520
you have to, but you can
also just fit it in with the rest

897
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:42.279
of your day, right Joe,
of course, twice a week Remnant,

898
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:49.199
Ruminant all that, and I'm I'm
daily on the commentary magazine podcasts as as

899
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:59.720
as people sadly must know and because
like I just keep talking and hey,

900
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:14.920
you keep listening. It's business.
Think Scott in in Hardcore Turn it Off

901
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:34.800
it's see hw spare M wanted you
to join me in a little reality break.

902
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:38.920
Okay, just because you're in love
with doctor Turner, that does not

903
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.720
mean you're going to pass her course. And you've got a major paper coming

904
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.800
up on Kirk Vonnica. You haven't
even read any of the books. I

905
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:51.439
tried. I don't understand a word
of it. How are you gonna write

906
01:09:51.439 --> 01:10:00.800
the paper? Then? Huh?
Hi, I'm Kurt vonni I'm looking for

907
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:06.960
Thorton melon. Yuh when we come
in, dad mhm