WEBVTT 1 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:22.239 Second hour of the program. Welcome Back Exes and Bros. Monday through Friday 2 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:28.079 six until nine. Follow us on our Twitter handle xb Mornings and follow us 3 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:32.960 on Facebook Exes m Bros. That's where we have our poll question for the 4 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.759 day, and we have one every single day. Trent and I work at 5 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:39.119 it. Who's the best free agent acquisition in Detroit? Is at Vladimir tery 6 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.759 Sinka with the Red Wings, Tobias Harris with the Pistons, DJ Reader with 7 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:48.039 the Lions, or Kevin Zeitler with the Lions? Should I should we Trent 8 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:56.399 have added a guy like Geo Orchella or a Mark Hanna. We did not 9 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:02.159 put them in there for a reason. I could easily say we didn't want 10 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:07.920 to be laughed at, but I'm not going to It's because neither one of 11 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.760 them has done very well for the Tigers. You know what would have been 12 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.680 even funnier is if you put Kenami Aida in there. I know I thought 13 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.000 about it, not about that. First of all, we try to limit 14 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:25.200 it to three or four at the most. And second of all, these 15 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.040 other three have yet to play, so it's really not fair to for them. 16 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.719 I get to them to putting guys who are already put up stats and 17 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:37.599 you can rest you know, we can recognize their impact or the lack thereof. 18 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:40.000 Anyway. You can vote as often as you want. It's on our 19 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:45.760 Facebook page, it's on our Twitter or x as well, So follow us 20 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.400 and let us know what you think, and we'll have the results for you 21 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.640 tomorrow d eight o'clock we'll give you the results from yesterday's poll question a little 22 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:59.920 bit later on today Baseball. We've been talking some baseball this morning about a 23 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:04.359 lot of different things. The appreciation for a guy like Jose Ramirez who became 24 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.799 the third player of the modern era last night to have three intentional walks and 25 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.680 two stolen bases in a single game. But in addition to that, you 26 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:15.199 know, the All Star Game is coming up. It's not long before every 27 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.800 team gets a break and the All Stars are sent to Texas. And I 28 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.360 don't know if you saw this, it was really cool with Logan Gilbert, 29 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.439 the starting for Seattle. Did you see the clip of him calling his parents? 30 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.199 Yes, I think that's awesome. There needs to be more of that 31 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:35.039 in all of sports. That is a real moment that is not scripted. 32 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:39.719 That is something that we can all relate to I don't care if you're Trent 33 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:45.159 Valley and your single you, imagine what it would be like to call mom 34 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.759 and dad and tell them about such an accomplishment. I don't care if you're 35 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:54.840 me who've got four kids, and imagine what it would be like to hear 36 00:02:54.879 --> 00:03:00.479 that type of news. The reaction from his mother and his father, the 37 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:06.719 breaking of the voice, the admiration and pride that they have and saying that 38 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.919 they will be there for him in his first It's awesome. I loved it. 39 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:14.560 That's the kind of stuff you got to eat up. That is, 40 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:24.120 that is emotionally transferable. That's what a great thing about social media or television 41 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.199 whatever. That's what you're supposed to do right there, And it's one of 42 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.159 those show. It's one of those formative steps on the journey, right because 43 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.400 yeah, obviously when you get drafted, that's a big one. Your first 44 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.039 when you make the team, your first start, and then when you become 45 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:38.479 an All Star for the first time, if you're lucky enough, that has 46 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.080 to just be a top five moment in your career to make that phone call 47 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.599 or the championship, Like remember, Jim Matthew Kachuk, We've talked about this 48 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:54.280 before on the ice, hugging his mom and telling her what thanks for helping 49 00:03:54.280 --> 00:04:00.680 me get here. Gave me goosebumps. I told this story earlier. I'll 50 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.680 tell it again, not earlier today, but earlier in the in our show, 51 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.400 maybe a month or so ago. Every year for the last thirty years, 52 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.879 my family and I have gone to Cape Cod, Massachusetts. My wife 53 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:20.199 loves it there. She was born and raised in the area, so she 54 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.279 loves going back. We make it a point, my boys and I of 55 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:30.800 going to Cape Cod baseball games. It's the best college players in the country 56 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:36.560 for the most part, playing on different teams at high school venues. They're 57 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:42.360 not your typical high school venue. I mean they are really high level, 58 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.680 beautiful fields, all right. I mean, East Grand Rapids has got it 59 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:50.399 all. These beautiful Rockford's got it all. A lot of really nice fields 60 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:58.240 here, but these are above and beyond. Anyway, We're watching a game 61 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:03.240 last year and this kid comes out of the dugout, calls over his mom 62 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:09.439 and dad, and he tells them he was just drafted. It was later 63 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.399 I think it was by the Braves. It's like a I don't know, 64 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.360 late late round draft pick. I don't know exactly what it was. I 65 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:21.600 don't want to speculate, but the point is the moment I wish I had, 66 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:27.040 I wish I took out my phone and filmed it. The moment he 67 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.720 hugged his mom and dad and the pride that they have and the tears they 68 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:36.839 shed was pretty special. I just absolutely it was a warm, comforting moment. 69 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:43.920 Loved every single second of it. Anyway, speaking of All Stars, 70 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.800 there is an article out there from SI. It makes you think, so 71 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.720 I'm not saying it's wrong. I disagree with it, but it's a pretty 72 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:57.399 cool. I like to read articles that make you think a little bit. 73 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:03.199 They're strongly suggesting Paul Skens, the outstanding rookie, the former number one overall 74 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:09.199 pick by Pittsburgh, should start the All Star Game for the National League. 75 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.399 Here's what they write, Paul Skeens has hit Major League Baseball like a lightning 76 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.160 bolt, living up to every bit of the hype in the two months since 77 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:23.560 his debut. That's important, two months. The rookie right hander has been 78 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:30.519 rewarded with an All Star selection. He should be. He's been incredible five 79 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:35.360 and zero in ten starts, two point one two ERA A whip slightly above 80 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:41.800 one, seventy eight strikeouts only twelve walks in fifty nine innings. The twenty 81 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:47.759 two year old has been a dominant force, no question. They think he 82 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:55.600 should start the All Star Game. I disagree. There's nothing wrong with having 83 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:59.439 him there. He should be there. He's earned it. He's not there 84 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.360 as a way to fill seats. He's not there as a marketing ployee. 85 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:11.480 He's not there to run a promotional ad. He's there because he deserves to 86 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:15.319 be there. Right, you would agree with that too, right, Yes, 87 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:24.040 Okay, being there as an All Star is one thing. Starting the 88 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:32.800 game is another. Just because and SI writes this, just because he's on 89 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:44.360 a trajectory doesn't mean that he deserves it as a starter. What Chris Sale 90 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.560 has done. And Chris Sale just won again last night. I do not 91 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:53.720 like Chrisale. I'll get that out of the way right now. Not a 92 00:07:53.759 --> 00:08:03.759 fan. But in seventeen starts, Chris Sale for the Atlanta Breys has ten 93 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:11.800 quality starts and leads all of baseball and wins with twelve. Now, sometimes 94 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:18.120 wins and losses can be very misleading. You and I both know that his 95 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:24.839 whip walks, hatings at walks hits per innings page is among the lowest in 96 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:30.759 baseball at point nine to four. Derek Schoubl, by the way, along 97 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:37.720 with Logan Gilbert, lead baseball with point nine zero. The argument in SI 98 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:46.320 is for Paul Skins and the War at two point four. Well, Chris 99 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:52.559 Sales is two point seven. I hate the you know, trying to play 100 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:58.120 the numbers game in comparison, but what this is what these arguments have been 101 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.440 have forced us to do. Look, get the strike strikeouts per innings per 102 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:09.399 nine innings pitched. Chris sal at eleven point seven. Only Garrett Crochet and 103 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:18.559 Tyler Glass now are better. You may not like Chrissale. You may think 104 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:24.519 he's part of the old Guard because you know he's still getting a dumb and 105 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.600 he is thirty five. He may have been there before, and he's got 106 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:33.039 plenty of All Star appearances. Seven that doesn't mean you take away from what 107 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:39.600 is rightfully earned. Chris Sales should be the starter for the National League of 108 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:45.600 the All Star Game. 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I do not that you're just hoping for it. 139 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:35.360 And look, you can read on every website how more and more football articles, 140 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.080 and it's hard to believe that it is, but it's true. More 141 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.480 and more football articles are coming out. ESPN Plus came out with something yesterday 142 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:52.159 that caught my eye. Executives, coaches, and scouts ranked the NFL's top 143 00:12:52.559 --> 00:13:03.279 ten defensive tackles for the upcoming season. Top ten. Do you think Trent 144 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.960 Ballely, any Lions defensive tackle is on this list? Probably? Not? 145 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:13.279 Okay, defensive end, I could see it with huts, but defensive tackle, 146 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.000 no, okay. So they have ten and then they have honorable mentions 147 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:28.200 and then they have also receiving votes. Who if any Lion defensive tackle Ali 148 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:35.360 McNeil would be on this list? McNeil, right, yeah, okay, 149 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:43.559 which category does he fall into? Top ten? Honorable mentions, also receiving 150 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.360 votes? You know, I'm gonna say, fell into also receiving votes. 151 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:54.720 I don't think people are really hip. Here are the top ten? Now 152 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:00.000 this is I think this is a little bit more. Can I say legitimate? 153 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:09.279 Because it's polling presidents, general managers, coaches and scouts. Yeah, 154 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:13.120 sure, it's the people that are evaluating talent in the league. Yeah, 155 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.279 so I think that's fair. So what they've done, Look, there's no 156 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:26.000 Aaron Donald in football. But what I like about this is they're doing this 157 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:33.440 as a series. So they're going to have you know, they've done They've 158 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:39.279 done running backs, They've done the defensive This is the defensive tackles today. 159 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:43.679 Later on today they'll have the edge rushers. Then they'll do safeties and tight 160 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.759 ends and interior offensive linemen and offensive tackles, and quarterbacks and linebackers and wide 161 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.120 receivers and cornerbacks. And that'll take us all the way through July eighteen, 162 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:58.879 and you and I will applaud, standing up vigorously and saying thank you because 163 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:05.120 all star break upon us and we want to talk sports. Right, Okay, 164 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.879 I think that's fair. Yeah, it is, certainly is. Chris 165 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:16.919 Jones is the number one defensive tackle, highest ranking one, lowest ranking two. 166 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.159 So there's not one scout, there's not one GM, there's not one 167 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:28.120 president, there's not one coach who thinks he's any worse than two. He's 168 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:35.480 consensus top two. That's outstanding, size, consistent, dominant effort. So 169 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.799 hard to block. Number two is Quinn Williams from the Jets, highest ranking 170 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:48.279 one, lowest ranking eight. So kind of right there a consensus top five 171 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:54.799 really good first step size and athleticism to overwhelm guys. Number three is Dexter 172 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:00.919 Lawrence, highest ranking two, lowest ranking eight. He's of the Giants. 173 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:10.679 Number four Jeffrey Simmons of Tennessee highest ranking two, lowest ranking unranked. That 174 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:15.679 runs the gamut. He had thirty seven percent run stoppage win rate. That's 175 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:22.840 impressive. Justin Madbuki of Baltimore is at number five, highest ranking two, 176 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:30.879 lowest ranking seven. Christian Wilkins of the Raiders is number six, highest ranking 177 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:37.000 three, lowest ranking unranked. Number seven is Derek Brown of Carolina, highest 178 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:45.799 ranking two, lowest ranking ten. DeForest Buckner of Indianapolis. Still getting it 179 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.360 done at the age of thirty, highest ranking two, lowest ranking unranked. 180 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.679 He's been pretty consistent since twenty eighteen. He's have fifty two sacks. Did 181 00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:00.799 you say highest ranking two, yes, lowest ranking unranked. Correctin a disparity 182 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.880 there, Yeah, it sure is. That's the same thing with Christian Wilkins 183 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:11.319 highest ranking three, lowest ranking unranked. Men Buike highest ranking two. Lowest 184 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.720 ranking, Oh that was seven, okay anyway. Number nine Kenny Clark of 185 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:21.680 Green Bay. He's always been a good player. Highest ranking five, lowest 186 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:26.000 ranking unranked, and number ten is Javon Hargrave of San Francisco. Highest ranking 187 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:30.400 five, lowest ranking unranked. Here's what surprised me about the top ten. 188 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:37.960 When I read this videvea of Tampa, I thought would be in the top 189 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:42.799 ten. I consider him a top ten defensive tackle, but I'm not a 190 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.000 scout, GM or coach in the NFL. He's in the Honorable mention. 191 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.519 So is Jonathan Allen, So is Jaln Carter. So is Deron Paine. 192 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:57.680 So Washington's got a couple of them there, so is Cam Hayward, and 193 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:03.519 so is Christian Barmore of New England. So, Trent, you're right. 194 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.319 You didn't think Kleem McNeil would be in the top ten or even in the 195 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:14.880 honorable mention. You thought he would be in the receiving votes. You would 196 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:22.400 be wrong. He's not in any of them. So Ed Oliver, Eric 197 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:32.119 Armstead, Leonard Williams, Grady Jarrett, Jamont Jones, and Zach Siler are 198 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:37.440 all in the receiving votes. So not a single contributor to this poll believes 199 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.039 Alee McNeil's top ten in the league. I hope that gets back to Alee 200 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:47.680 McNeil. Correct, I'm guarantee it'll get back to him, guaranteed. You 201 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:52.599 want to talk about bulletin board material motivation. Yeah, and again I think 202 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.359 it means a little bit more because it's not coming from neither you nor I 203 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.359 or a writer. Right, it's not fans, it's not media trying to 204 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:07.559 spin their narrative. It's people that evaluate the league right exactly. So for 205 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:14.759 example, CBS Sports came out with their top twenty linebackers not too long ago, 206 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.559 and immediately I want to know what they think of, you know, 207 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:26.960 the Lions linebackers. If at all, how many Lions linebackers are in the 208 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:32.720 top twenty? Do you think one? Who would it be? Alex Angzeloni. 209 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.160 Yeah. The answer, at least in this survey, at least in 210 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:47.920 these writers who covered the NFL is none. None like that surprised me. 211 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.839 I didn't think they would be top ten, but I thought they'd be at 212 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.240 least top twenty, right. I thought Angeloni would maybe sneak in around seventeen 213 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.200 or eighteen. Yeah, just because it's the Lions and they you know, 214 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.559 they've got a lot of eyeballs last season. Yeah yeah, right, so 215 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:10.839 it shows you, like we've done this before. There were no cornerbacks for 216 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:17.319 the Lions. There's no defensive tackles, at least based on the survey from 217 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:25.440 top executives and coaches, and now these NFL writers for this website anyway say 218 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:33.480 there's no linebackers. I guess my point is you and I both can kind 219 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.880 of read into that. You could tell me what you think of Detroit's defense 220 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:45.799 based on this perception. And I use that word intentionally. This perception is 221 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:52.279 nobody good enough in the defensive backfield. They don't think highly of your interior 222 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:59.400 defensive line, and they don't think highly of your linebackers. Fred Warner's number 223 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.680 one, from Sam Francisco, Rocon Smith from Baltimore's number two, to Mario 224 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.559 Davis from the Saints at number three, Quincy Williams from the Jets at number 225 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:14.119 four, and Matt Mulano of the Bills at number five. Nobody else, 226 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:18.839 like even Bobby Wagner at his age is at number nine. Always liked him. 227 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:26.039 Hell of a player. 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I want to get to a text here because I think somebody we 280 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.960 jolted something from somebody who was watching or following the Tigers a little bit last 281 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.279 night. So Trent feed me with the text says, good morning, chefs. 282 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.960 So disappointed with last night's game. I was thrilled we came back. 283 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.680 I can tie it. However, I knew we wouldn't be able to stop 284 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.680 Cleveland from scoring the tenth. Also, I didn't miss Bias when he was 285 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:17.160 gone. When people say or text in this regard, I knew they weren't 286 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.119 going to be able to hold on in the tenth. Do you think that's 287 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.200 based on just what they've done this year? Or do you think it's based 288 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.319 on what Cleveland has done. Cleveland seven and two in extra inning games. 289 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:33.880 Now is it the once bitten twice shy you feel burned by it all? 290 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:41.359 What is it that makes people feel like I just have no confidence whatsoever in 291 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.359 this team when it comes to extra innings? Is it the manager? What 292 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.000 do you think it is? I think it's a combination of all of it. 293 00:26:51.279 --> 00:27:00.480 I don't think people know of Cleveland's success in extra innings. I think 294 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.799 they look at it and they say, I have seen what Detroit has done. 295 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:10.200 This is an experience. Now this is your experience. I have seen 296 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:15.000 what the Tigers have done. I've noticed it. I may not know the 297 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.359 exact record in extra innings, and I'll give you that here in a moment, 298 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:26.519 but overall, it's a feeling. It's justified. They're four and six 299 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:33.279 and extra innings. But this is It's funny the Texter bring this up, 300 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.880 because last night I was thinking the exact same thing, extra innings. What 301 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:45.839 does Cleveland do they play for the beginning, They're not bunting their way along, 302 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.000 They're playing for extra runs in extra innings. You can do that, 303 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.920 or you're supposed to do that, or most shouldn't say supposed to do. 304 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:02.240 Most teams do that. They're gonna do what they can to try and tack 305 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:07.839 on the extra run. When you've got that ghost runner, when you've got 306 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.680 the person who made the last out from the ninth starting at second base in 307 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:17.960 the tenth, you get a chance if you're the road team to go for 308 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.440 the big inning. While so many people say bunt him over to third base, 309 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.119 you can do that if you're the home team. If Cleveland doesn't score 310 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:32.319 last night, in all likelihood, that's what Detroit's doing. But if they've 311 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.240 got some good bunters, they're bunting him along. So then a sacrifice fly 312 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:42.200 wins the game. And you notice a sacrifice fly got a run in for 313 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:47.759 Cleveland and a run in for the Tigers. That's what you do. Cleveland 314 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.960 didn't do that. Cleveland played for the extra not the big inning, per 315 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:57.000 se, but the extra inning or extra run for the inning. That's the 316 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.839 way you're at least I think you should be handling it. But yeah, 317 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.839 you didn't miss bias. I get it. A couple of nights ago, 318 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.599 they had a chance for a decent inning and they won. But they had 319 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.559 a chance for a decent inning bias grounds into a double play early on in 320 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:21.000 the game. I can't defend him anybody who tries to defend him. It's 321 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:26.920 defending the indefensible. You just can't do it. I've said this before, 322 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:32.839 I'll continue to say it, all right. I like the guy from a 323 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:41.720 standpoint of the individual, been with him on the road, plenty decent enough 324 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:48.400 guy, all right, And I think players his teammates like him too. 325 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:56.920 But it's a results oriented business. You and I both know that, and 326 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:04.240 he knows it, and the results are not there. Period. He's an 327 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:08.559 easy target because of what he's done. When you're betting a buck eighty two 328 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.640 and you have one bomb and you're making twenty three million dollars, twenty four 329 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:18.400 million dollars, easy to do that. So I'm not going to go there 330 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.720 because I'm not going to defend him because you're on a hundred percent right, 331 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.319 you didn't miss him. It's really no difference. It's no difference when he's 332 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.839 in and when he's out. I mean, I know what people will try 333 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.200 and tell you. I know what I know what the team will try and 334 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.640 sell you. When he's on. He's special. And so hold on a 335 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:47.400 second, stop, stop it. Don't insult the fan base. The fan 336 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:52.480 base is well aware, they have followed it closely. This is not you 337 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.759 know what, You don't know what we're getting because you haven't watched him. 338 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:57.920 He's been playing with the Cubs and he's been playing with the Mets. No, 339 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:03.920 no, no, no. This is a situation where Detroit Tigers fans 340 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:10.319 are very much aware of what this guy has brought to this team. So 341 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:15.880 don't insult them by suggesting that they're not paying close enough attention and they're not 342 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:22.160 recognizing the nuances of what he brings to your franchise. Not true at all. 343 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.880 Tiger's fans saw him in twenty twenty two and he batted two thirty eight 344 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.720 many home runs, led the team in homers is seventeen, but most of 345 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:40.079 those late in the season, when that miserable campaign was done. People saw 346 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.079 him hit worse a year ago, and they're seeing him hit worse, even 347 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:51.680 worse this year. Stop. Don't give me the magician with the glove, 348 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.000 the special defensive plays and all this other stuff, because it's falling on deaf 349 00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:02.839 ears. All you're doing is hurting yourself. That's it. Because guess what 350 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:10.640 people also recognize that the defensive runs saved category is not there for him either 351 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:20.680 as a Detroit Tiger, and the throwing errors get a little tired. So 352 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.200 I'm with the Texter. I'm not going to sit here and beat up on 353 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:34.440 howve of your bias. It's almost it's become old hat and almost understood. 354 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:42.240 And that's as big a concern slash worry as anything else. The fact that 355 00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.960 the fan base it's just understood. He's gotten to the point where there's no 356 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:55.319 need to ridicule and complain about him because it's understood. That's pretty sad, 357 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:06.000 and that tells you really all you need to know. It's no longer Hey, 358 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.559 was this a bad signing? That's understood. We know it was. 359 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:15.279 There's no doubt about that. We don't need you to tell us whether or 360 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.119 not it's a bad signing. We know it's a bad signing. We know 361 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.920 it's one of the worst the Tigers organization and perhaps any team in this city 362 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:31.559 has had. He went over for three again last night. By the way, 363 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.559 think about this for a second. This guy was brought in here. 364 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.079 I said, we're not going to beat up on Hovey or bias, And 365 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.000 now I can't stop talking about him. But the Texter brought it up. 366 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:52.200 He was brought in here on a big contract in twenty twenty two, and 367 00:33:52.240 --> 00:34:01.680 he's making twenty five million dollars this year and he's betting eighth. Did any 368 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:07.679 eighth in your lineup? Javier Bias, the twenty five million dollar man, 369 00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:13.840 the guy who makes more money than anybody else on your team, the guy 370 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.199 who was supposed to be the catalyst. And again this isn't on Scott Harris. 371 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.519 Alavilla signed him. But you know what, in fairness to Alavila, 372 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:29.559 in that class of shortstops, there's a lot of people who wanted Javier Bias 373 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:37.159 in Detroit. Remember the shortstop class, right, it was Corey Seger, 374 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:44.920 it was Marcus simm it was Carlos Correa, it was Trevor Story, and 375 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:51.400 it was Javier Bias. I want you to think back and tell me, 376 00:34:51.719 --> 00:35:00.199 or be honest with yourself, who did you want, because really, I 377 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:09.519 mean, Simeon's playing second base, so Seeger or Correa, and Correa has 378 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.960 been hurt a lot. If Korea has been in Detroit and hurt as often 379 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.119 he has as he has been in Minnesota, you'd be complaining about that too, 380 00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:25.800 and rightfully so. But all those guys, those Trevor stories non existent 381 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.159 because he's heard so much. All those guys hit at the top of the 382 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.679 lineup. Correa is hitting two or three, Simeon's hitting one or two. 383 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:45.079 Seeger's hitting two or three. Javier Bias this year has hit eighth forty four 384 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:58.239 games. Forty four games. He's only played in fifty two. He's hit 385 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:05.079 six to one game. He's hit seventh seven times. He's hit eighth forty 386 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:15.679 four times. Guys making twenty five mil. He's supposed to be your number 387 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:25.000 two or your number three hitter. That is how bad it is. Incredible, 388 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:32.000 but a good text because I'm right there with you. I don't even 389 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:36.280 think about it anymore, to be honest with you. No, we're numb 390 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.280 to it. We're numb to how bad it is. Yeah, that's exactly 391 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:47.239 it, Absolutely numb. I consider it an automatic out. That's how I 392 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.440 look at it. He's coming up. Oh, okay, who's up in 393 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.360 the next inning. That's kind of what I look at Yeah. Bathroom break, 394 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.800 Yeah, bathroom break. Just I'm not let myself get disappointed. I'm 395 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.079 not going to let myself get my hopes up high because you've got an idea 396 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.920 of what's going to happen. He'll roll over on something, he'll wave and 397 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:15.480 miss, I mean the whole slider and swinging and missing. I get it. 398 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.800 I'm more concerned, or more frustrated, I should say, I'm more 399 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.199 frustrated at the damn fastballs that you can't catch up to, that you can't 400 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:35.079 hit any longer, that you're grounding out he was supposed to. I understand 401 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.880 there's some swing and miss there. He's supposed to get on base. The 402 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:45.920 reason you got him was not just defensively, but the ability to have some 403 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.719 pop. But a guy who you hope would get on base for you. 404 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.239 Look at the on base percentage, folks. Now, there's other guys who 405 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.079 have struggled this year who have been good on base, Guys like Jeff McNeil, 406 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:06.880 for example, like bobashett Bobaschetz had an absolutely garbage season. It's one 407 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:08.559 of the reasons some people feel like he could be traded. I mean, 408 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:16.360 his on base percentage is two seventy five. Horrible, absolutely horrible. Juan 409 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:23.079 Soto leads baseball in on base percentage of four to twenty seven. Aaron Judges 410 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:30.000 right behind him, which is incredible. And considering the Yankees, you thought 411 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.760 they were gonna be a really good baseball team, and I still think to 412 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.960 the most, for the most part, they are. They've had the They 413 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.480 had the worst June of any team in baseball. They had five wins in 414 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:45.239 the month of June. But anyway, Stephen Kwant who's become a an All 415 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.360 Star starter for the first time this year. He's the third outfielder of the 416 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.679 American Mate, he's third in the league. And on base percentage, do 417 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:59.280 you know what Javier Bias's on base percentage is? I'm gonna guess it's around 418 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:09.760 two hundred. It's to twelve. Yikes. Most players who are betting a 419 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:20.079 buck eighty five have an on base percentage of two twelve, have an ops 420 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:32.440 plus of thirty one. Average is one hundred. His ops plus is thirty 421 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:42.320 one. His slug trent the slug is two fifty four. Right, if 422 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.760 that could just be a regular average, I'd be happy with that. But 423 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:49.199 for that to be the slugging, that's just pathetic. Is that nuts or 424 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:53.360 what it is? It totally is. And I think the point you're getting 425 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.320 that here, Shep is when Javier Bias. If we can wind the clocks 426 00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.440 back to twenty twenty two when he first got here. All we want him 427 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.519 to do was be elmago with the glove and hit for contact like you mentioned, 428 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.960 give me two seventy. I don't even need you to be a three 429 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:12.639 hundred hitter like you were in Chicago, right right. But he's gotten worse 430 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.559 steadily every single season into try I don't know what it is, every single 431 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.639 season he's been in the league now eleven seasons. Maybe age is just catching 432 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.519 up with him. But it's pathetic. But you knew he was going to 433 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.679 strike out, and so did I. Yeah, that was a given. 434 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:32.159 You can almost live with it as long as he's slugging, as long as 435 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.840 he's driving the ball to the gaps and so on and so forth. The 436 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.800 league leader in slugging is Aaron Judge at six seventy seven, and Javier Bias 437 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:47.639 is at two twelve. Oh that's like a statistical outlier, isn't it, 438 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:53.960 Bud? That is so painful. Forget the average for a moment, because 439 00:40:54.039 --> 00:41:00.639 averages can be really overrated. Look at the slug and look at the on 440 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.760 base Those are really important statistics. How much is the guy driving it, 441 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.360 And how much is he able to draw some walks and get on base? 442 00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:17.239 He can't do either, can't do either one. And for his career he's 443 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:21.280 a he's a two ninety four on base percentage guy. So it's not like 444 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:25.360 he's been great throughout his career. But to be two eleven, to be 445 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:31.719 eighty points lower than your career average, I mean that tell me you're falling 446 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.440 off a cliff. Without telling me you're falling off a cliff. Oh my 447 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.760 god. Now you bring up the lifetime two ninety four, and I get 448 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.760 it. 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