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Patrol breakdown. Sichel tomon Bridge is
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the Pigball Congress, as we do, getch it. Every week we begin

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with our hot takes in the Big
twelve, and Tom, I'm gonna start

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out with Dylan Gabriel from a hot
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I know everyone's talking about Jackson Arnold
and how well he played when he

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got to run with the offense in
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real when it comes to Dylan Gabriel. As you guys know, I was

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very critical of Dylan Gabriel last year. But the efficiency he showed the offense

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to command that he put together,
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He made those receivers look good.
I like to let I saw from

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from Dylan Gabriel. And granted,
Arkansas State's not that great of a football

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team, I don't think and Butch
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a long year. But even with
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impressed week. He grabbed my attention
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that we've seen since the second half
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step in the right direction. I
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an NFL quarterback and now lay for
fucking Dallas or what quarterback. I used

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the term loosely. That couldn't mean
a career backup, but in the NFL

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quarterback Nonetheless, I do think he's
gonna be a pro quarterback, and if

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we see more of what he did
this past week, he might even end

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up working his way to be a
first round quarterback. I was very I

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think Dylan Gabriel has turned that corner. Tom. That's my hot take too.

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Don't let me rub off on you
too much. Taking Dallas that's well,

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that's hot. Maybe that's hot.
I'll tell you what I don't know.

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I don't my hot take this week. I gave you one last week.

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And what did I say last week? I told you that in Low

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and Behold. I was halfway wrong
because I said, all right, everybody,

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Alan Bowman gets the start in still
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He did not, And much to
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deep by the time kickoff started and
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and I thought, oh my god, what is going on? Ohs.

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She decided to go ahead and play
all three quarterbacks. None of them

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looked horrible. None of them looked
horrible. Garrett Ringle had one pass where

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he got hit. They got picked
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that, I thought he kind of
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bit. He looked somewhat impressive.
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At the end of the game.
Bowman didn't have a bad game either.

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I didn't like how they went about
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game, so they've been shielded from
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against Wisconsin and the bowl game.
No one is kind of known. We

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haven't really heard too much from We
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who is just the biggest loud mouth
and stillwater about this team. Don't

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get me wrong, love Robert Allen, but he's he's a character, and

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we haven't even heard a lot from
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you know exactly what I'm talking about. We haven't heard his goofy ass voice

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about this situation pretty much at all. And until you know postgame from Learfield

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Sports we hadn't heard ship out of
still Water. So whatever reason they're keeping

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under wraps, it's really hard to
believe that three quarterbacks are so equal that

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they haven't decided. I think it
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IQ from Casey Dunn, the offensive
coordinator, than it is that the three

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quarterbacks are equal. Okay, me
and Billy talked about a friend of the

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show, Billy Locke. We talked
about it, and and to even touch

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on the Oklahoma State offensive line,
Charlie Dickey's group, Charlie Dickey and Casey

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Dunn could die and something could happen
and they could die. I'm knock on

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wood and I hope they don't,
but if something did, I think at

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this point Osho was so attached to
them that they would build them a statue

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and then they'd have the software developers
build a Casey Dunn type chat GPT to

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call the offensive play. Still,
that's how bad so hot take this week

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they go to the desert and play
Arizona State. I'm gonna keep going with

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Osho Hot takes. They're gonna play, They're gonna start Garrett Rangel and then

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they're gonna do the second half of
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gonna have to sneak out a three
point win in Tempi Arizona. I'm not

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putting money in Oklahoma States this week. I'll tell you that much. Nine

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thirty West Coast game. I don't
have twelve after dark. Yeah, big

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twelfth after dark. Now get used
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watched by U last week. I
watched Texas Tech last week. I love

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this late night window thing that we're
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b YU. Were you that impressed? I was not. You know,

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I love their defense. Granted was
Sam Houston. They're they're in conferences,

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hey now, But I love the
defense. The offense not so much.

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I expected more out of Slovas,
which leads me to my next question before

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we break down this week's games.
Who was the biggest loser last week?

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Was it it was Baylor? Was
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them by Texas State? Was it
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mean, if we're gonna be frank, it wasn't a good week for the

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league last week. Why you didn't
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I mean, I mean, who
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West Virginia, who we thought was
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looking okay. I mean they only
lost thirty eight to fifteen. It could

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have been worse, and it was
a close game in the fourth quarter.

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I mean, not a great week
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loser for May time, I mean, Baylor seems like the easy answer.

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But Tech, I mean, lose
a game you had no business losing,

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all the hype in the world,
primetime game on CBS, and you lose

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to Wyoming. You lost to a
quarterback and Andrew Peasley from La Grand freaking

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Oregon as you're starting quarterback. I
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funny about that? Jones? I
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is I somewhat agree with you.
I think it's fifty fifty balor fifty fifty

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Tech. It was very, very
apparent watching that game. Granted it went

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to the overtime. It was at
Wyoming. That is the highest stadium in

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D one football in the nation,
so I'm sure they were sucking air.

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You had like play at one point. Yeah, it was spokey. It

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was exactly. Here's the funny thing
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was from Grand's Organ and low and
behold. I think, and I think

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you'll agree with me. Here the
just how that game went, how it

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looked. It was very evident that
they overlooked Wyoming because they've been looking forward

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to Oregon this week since last season. I think so. And now they're

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playing organ in that quarterback that beat
him is from Oregon, right, yeah,

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watch out. I expect a better
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mean they better. I mean Oregon
looked good. Well it's Portland State,

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but they beat the dog shit out
of him. Yeah, SCS team,

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but they did. They put a
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Let's go through real fast, one
by one. The big twelveth slate this

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week. Illinois and Ku Ku.
Last week started out a little slow,

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made some mistakes on defense, but
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Jason Bean got the start with Jaylen
Daniels out last week, but Jayla Daniels,

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expected to play, had some knee
swordness that held him out last week.

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I think they held him out as
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season debut, Illinois squeaked out a
win at home against Toledo. Two completely

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different styles here. KU loves to
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Illinois likes to be physical. They
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tough defense. Their defense didn't play
that great last week. I feel pretty

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good about KU this week, even
though they're only a three point favoriting until

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it all on Friday night time.
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good about them too. I don't. I don't have any qualms about picking

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KU here. I think I think
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expound. I think. I mean, you said Jayalen Daniels is not back

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yet, Oh he is back?
Oh? I mean, so there,

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I mean, there you go.
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who's the best backup quarterback in the
Big twelve? And why is it Jason

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Bean? My it's either Jason Bean
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Manning. No I didn't, Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean so

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KU's as Jason Bean the most consistency
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I take Jason Bean over some starters
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I mean I'd love to have Jayson
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He I mean, honestly, Jason
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Yes, I mean I think Jason
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up more than, you know,
more than they would Awash, you would

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have won by more than fourteen against
Central Arkansas. But but depends on how

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the coaching situation is. You can
sell it, you can tell it.

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I'm pissed off about what happened and
Stillwater on Saturday, Tom, real quick,

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this is how I see this game
going. The difference in this game,

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KU scores forty. There's no way
Illinois can can keep up at that

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rate. Like, I mean,
KU's defense might not be that great,

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but there's no way that Illinois is
gonna have the offense to hang with the

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Hawks. No, I'm thinking I
think you're actually spot on with forty.

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I'm thinking forty twenty three Ku,
Okay, I'd take that. I went

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out of a state. This game
ain't gonna be pretty. I leaned towards

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Eye. Well, they've owned this
series. The game is in aims,

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but expect us to be like a
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low scoring. It's gonna be ugly. This is gonna be like, you

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know, a weekend at your in
laws. You who are you thinking?

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I'd said Iowa. I took Iowa, But I mean it's not gonna be

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pretty you think I mean? So, I'll tell you one of the more

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shocking teams. We did talk a
whole lot of shit on Matt Campbell last

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week, and I thought from that
game that you know, I thought that

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that Iowa State commanding like commandeered that
game and had control of that game the

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entire time. Was actually pretty shocked. What what we both say that we

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would be shocked at Northern Iowa went
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always stay handled themselves pretty well.
I wasn't then impressed with Iowa last week

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either. It isn't aims if I'm
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line on the game? Iowall buy
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gotta go buy Iowa. There maybe
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more than that. Baylor and a
Utah as if we roll through the Big

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twelve slate here, uh Baylor barrassing
lost last week. Utah strong win with

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a backup quarterback on the road back
to back Power Five games for Utah future

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Big Twelve matchup. Here, Utah
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team, and I'm very worried about
the Baylor Bears. Like I think,

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even with a backup quarterback and everything, and Baylor's playing with a backup two

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because Blake Chapin's out for the next
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Utah just going in at curb.
Stopping Baylor. Baylor last week should have

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been a wake up call there,
there is no excuse, and I'm I'm

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starting to have my doubts about Dave
Randa here. I mean, he had

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what Matt Rowell's kids when he first
came in, right, and now he's

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probably been there long enough that you
know, okay's he's there now. If

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Utah goes in and let's say the
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Let's say a forty five thirteen Utah, and that's maybe being generous,

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it was, especially with a backup
quarterback. Is Dave Randa on the hot

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seed at all? I think?
Yeah, I mean, if they go

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out there and get just kicked in
the dick, I mean, because here's

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the deal, Jones, So here's
the here's the funniest part about Baylor.

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They've taken l against Texas State had
no business. And that's not to say

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that who's the coach? Savanaugh at
Texas State used to be GJ. Kenney,

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former TU quarterback. Oh that's right. So they beat Baylor, They're

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gonna have UTSA in a couple of
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I mean, Texas State's probably not
overall a horrible football team, but

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they go in, they beat Baylor. Baylor's gonna go now play Utah.

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I don't know who Baylor has after
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day that I moved to San Antonio, they play Texas at home. They

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got Island in between. Okay,
so they're gonna start. They're easily gonna

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start one and three. Yeah,
I mean, Dave Randa's on, Like

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there's unless Baylor. I don't know
who the backup quarterback is. Unless they

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got just an old sun bitch back
there that we don't know about that's gonna

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come out and have a Kurt Warner
style game. I mean, I don't

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think Utah is gonna show any mercy
either, because we knew what Utah was

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thinking about having to come to the
Big twelve. This is their first shot

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had a Big twelve team at home. It's way it's gonna be worse than

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Florida for sure. Yeah, games
in Waco, but Utah has had a

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couple extra days rest with playing on
a Thursday night last week, so we'll

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see how that goes real quick.
Kase State and Troy K State one in

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a shutout last week. I don't
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Troy. K State's only favored by
sixteen and a half, though I'd hammer

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this one. K State. I
think that they're gonna win this one going

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away, and Will Howard and company
should have a big day. I think

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so too. That does worry mean
though that it's only sixteen Troy is not

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Troy is not horrible, but sixteen
points. I'm like, what does Vegas

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know that we don't? And I
still like case States cover though, yeah,

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are you in Southern Utah FCS opponent
all I just want to see more

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offense from byu Keaton Slovias and company. We know the defense played well last

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week. Let's see that offense get
cranking and wake up a little bit here.

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Yeah, they need to. I
mean, you know, you can

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only play conservative like the Mormons for
so long. It's time to wake up

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BYU. Oh you and SMU oh
you favored fifteen and a half. We

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mentioned how bad of a team Arkansas
State was last week. This is OU's

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first real test because SMUs well coached, they get some talent. They're the

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favorites to win the American Athletic Conference
this year. I don't think Ohu's gonna

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have any problems winning this game,
but I do want to see how they

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fare just playing an actual, real
opponent. I mean, this is their

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toughest non con opponent without a doubt
in this SMU team here. Yeah,

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SMU is nobs. I mean I
think fifteen and a half I kind of

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like the case take game. I
would take OEU to cover. But I

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mean SMU is feeling real hot and
heavy now that they got the ACC invite.

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So where's the is the game in
Fort Worth? Games in Norman?

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Okay? Yeah? You know,
if I was a betting manner for it

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was legal here, i'd probably i'd
probably throw twenty five on OU West Virginia

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and Decane. By the way,
Decane doesn't even look like the word ducane.

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Yeah, I want to they need
to use that for the script spelling

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bee and we like fix the spelling
of decane. I can't take a school

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seriously that has a name like that
better than advertised, better than I thought

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they would be. Go ahead and
you know, show show them that last

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week. If they played like they
did in those first three quarters, then

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they should win this one going away. I mean yeah, I mean there's

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I mean, you said it,
you know, Duke Kane. That doesn't

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even make sense. Now if that
was like a name of a fancy liquor,

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then okay, you might be able
to get away with it. This

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is a college university, and if
we didn't know better, I can guarantee

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you both of us before off record, have said this queen, this queen,

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yes, before we got It's like
someone saying like somehow someone like on

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the NBA TV would maybe mispronounced Janna
Santa Ta Kumpo. I think we should

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intentionally call them the squeen in Squeen
Yes Pitt in Cincinnati. That might be

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a future Big twelve game. After
the acc implodes Cincinnati's seven a half point

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dollars on the road, Cincinnati looks
really good. Last week. Emory Jones

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was fantastic. Pitt's not a bad
team. Uh. You and I were

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not very high on Cincinnati entering the
year, but really good test here.

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If they played like they did last
week, then they'll have a shot.

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Yeah, I think they do have
a shot. I mean, I'm if

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I was a betting man again,
though I wouldn't probably touch this game,

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but if I had to, I'm
probably gonna take. You said is a

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six and a half or just straight
seven seven and a half? Oh mm?

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See that does change things. Vegas
is pretty good. I'd probably to

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be honestly, I'd probably start to
take pit here. Yeah. Other games

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on the slate here, Texas and
Alabama my pick later on. I won't

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spoil it for you, but I
gotta say Texas had this game circle for

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a long time. Uh. You
know, if you've been listening this show,

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I've been drinking the kool aid on
Texas here, even though I'll probably

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regret it. I have a lot
of questions about Alabama's offense and the lack

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thereof, and I think Texas is
a more talented team here. But you

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still gotta play Nick Saban. It's
still Tuscalosa primetime game and everything. Is

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Texas ready for the moment? That
is the million dollar question is Quinn Ewers

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and company. Can they go in
get the job done. Are they ready

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for this moment or is the moment
too big for them? Because if if

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it's a matchup on paper, tim
Texas are the better team, But I

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don't know if they're ready for this
moment yet. I don't think they are.

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What's the line? Alabama by seven, so it was six and a

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half. I'm taking Bbama every time. Here's a deal, it's in Tuscaloosa.

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That's one one of my favorite petty
moments. And I'm so glad to

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Texas is getting the I'm so glad
Texas is feeling the wrath of this because

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here's what happened, and it happened
to It happened to os U two the

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last time I went to Austin,
not last year, but the year before,

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and it used to not be like
this. Texas puts the opposing team's

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band in the upper echelon of the
stadium, which you've never been to.

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Have you never been to Texas?
The Texas is long orange stadium. Darryl

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Kay Royal then you just it's it's
one of the bigger stadiums I've ever been

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to, and it's you might as
well be in the fucking atmosphere up in

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the upper atmosphere at that point,
being that high up. So they put

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the band up there. They did
it to Alabama, you know, when

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I was there, They did it
to OSU Alabama. Since Texas is not

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yet in the SEC, and the
SEC has rules on this that they have

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to put the opposing band in the
lower bowl. Since Texas is not yet

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in the SEC, this is the
last chance Alabama can get to also put

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them up way up in the upper
echelon of you know, Brian K.

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Denny Stadium. So at that point, I'm like, you know what,

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Hell yeah, Alabama, go out
there and kick the dog shit out of

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them. Texas is getting a little
bit of their own medicine. You know,

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they've limited Texas tickets to the game
in the same way that Texas is

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limited tickets when Alabama played. Texas
is getting a little bit on the medicine.

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And I in in a weird in
a weird occurrence, I am rooting

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for Alabama to just kick the dog
shit out of Texas. It's gonna be

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a very interesting game. You know, if Texas is ready for the ballment

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or not. And are they going
to injure another Texas quarterback. They've done

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that the last two games against you
two better than knock on Wood. I

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don't like to see anybody get injured. But you have a good point.

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Yeah, exactly. Oregon and Texas
Tech Organ six and a half point favorite.

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We'll pick this game later. Oregon
so so talented bo Nicks really turned

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the corner last year in the right
direction. Texas Tech coming off that disappointing

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loss in overtime last week, and
I think they were looking ahead and Tyler

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Shaff looking to get revenge against Oregon
and all that and everything. Organ's more

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talent team than than Texas Tech is. I think Texas Tech was drinking too

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much of their own kool aid,
getting too excited about themselves this year.

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I I like Oregon to go in
and uh and take care of business in

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Lubbock. Won't be easy, should
be a competitive game, but I think

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this one where Organ pulls away the
fourth quarter, I think it might be

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a little bit worse than that.
I'm I'm gonna go out on a limb

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here and I'm gonna say organ by
sixteen, Okay, you seef in Boise

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State. You see, IF looked
really good last Thursday night, a couple

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of days rest, playing on the
short week last week. Now you go

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to Boise and these were the two
faces of the group of five for a

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long time, and Boise State never
got that chance to move up. UCF

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now is you know a staple of
the Big twelfth Conference in their future is

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extremely bright. As the youngest Power
five program in the country, Gusmallson's offense

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was really rocking last week. Boise
State really just got their ass handed to

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them by a pretty good Washington team. Might I had last week in Seattle

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UCF. I think UCF's gonna come
into the surf smurf turf and only an

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They're only three and a half point
favorite. But I don't see UCF having

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any problems with Boise State. No, neither do I know. I will

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say Boise State was respectful as a
football team in the beginning of that Washington

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game. But you're appo right,
UCF looked pretty good, you know on

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Thursday, granted inferior opponent, but
it's not easy. That's a long journey

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Jones from Orlando to Boise. That
might as well be going from New York

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City to La Yeah, Houston plaint
Rice battle for the city at Houston.

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The game at Rice Houston and nine
and a half point favorite Houston one in

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controversial fashion last week against UTSA,
an upset win at home seventeen to fourteen.

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Now taking on this Rice team,
just xs and Ohs wise twent level

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on the field that that Houston team. I mean, they have their flaws,

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don't get it wrong, but they're
a hell of a lot better than

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what Rice is gonna put out there. Tom. I mean, yeah,

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I mean Rice, what for the
first quarter? They hung around with Texas,

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but I mean it's a rap right
right now. They pushed around Texas

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his whole line a bit Rice did, but I mean they didn't really do

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anything offensively, and that's gonna be
an issue. TCU taking on Nichols TCU

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last week of valiant efforts. I
want to see from TCU what they really

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need to do. We know the
offense can score, but the defense needs

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to show that they can actually get
stops. And Chandeler Morris has got back

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on the turnovers. He's got to
get more accurate. And the two games

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we've seen him start, both against
Colorado, in the last two seasons,

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he has not been accurate, hasn't
been taken care of the football. We

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know he can throw it across the
yard all day long, and he can

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score touchdowns and all that, but
Chandler Morris, that's what lead this offense.

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Be back of this team going forward. Let's got me more out for

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one, Yeah, Jones, I'd
like to see more out of them.

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And I think this is a good
chance too for Sonny Dikes and and that

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defense too too. You know,
they're playing Nichols and it was in Nichols

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or Nichols State that BATKU a couple
of years ago. Oh it was same

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school, Nichols. Yeah, okay, So I don't think that's gonna happen

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here. And I think TCU I'd
like to see them bounce back and you

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know, kind of dominates. So
I mean I think they could. I

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think they could blow them out of
the water. And then lastly, we

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kind of talked about in our hot
takes os Hue in Arizona State nine thirty

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game in Phoenix. We'll talk more
about it with Bill Haston here in just

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a second, always shoes quarterback situation. They're gonna play all three quarterbacks sounds

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like this weekend. I don't think
this is gonna be pretty, but Arizona

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State's not that good of a football
team. I think this is just about

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survival for OSUE. I think they
go out there, they win this game,

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but they're not gonna get any style
points out of it. Like this,

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this ain't gonna be pretty the main
goal, Like, you're not worrying

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about trying to impress the selection committee
for the playoff for anything like that.

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You're just trying to get out of
here a live with a dub. Yeah,

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I think that's that's so. And
and from what I heard from just

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the camp and stuff, it sounds
like they're gonna play one quarterback a half

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and the other two the second half, or however they want to do it.

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But I personally am sticking tired of
that shit. You need to That's

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why you have all offseason to figure
that out. This is no time to

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experiment. They're not gonna win the
Big twelve or anything, but I'd like

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to see a better product on the
field. And you mentioned at Arizona State

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not a great team. But I
mean there's no reason, ohs you shouldn't

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win this game. But I'm I
am nervous. Yeah, I get that,

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totally do so with that, that
is the Big Twelve breakdown for this

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week. Bill Haston gonna join us. Next we'll get a Hastens thoughts on

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OU and OSU and the rest of
the twelve come up that on the other

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side, stay with us, join
us now the Joe Sport this week please

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to welcome back to the show.
It is Bill Hasten from the Tulsa World

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covers the Oklahoma Suitors, Oklahoma State
Cowboys, University of Tulsa, Oklahoma City

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Thunder, and the great high school
sports scene there in the state of Oa.

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Wells. He joins us right now. Bill, always pleasure to chat

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my friend. How we do it? Good, Tyler? Like I mentioned

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when we were chit chatting before you
pressed play or pressed record, talking with

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you as a NaSTA version away from
watching the Rangers get beat again. So

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I'm and I mean, holy cow, this time tomorrow and I there will

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be the NFL season will get kicked
off. So we have a very interesting

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first weekend in the NFL, and
then the college schedule for the weekend is

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off the charts. Colorado Nebraska.
I can't. I mean, I am

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so fired up to watch Colorado Nebraska
for both sides, for you know,

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reasons that apply to both sides.
And obviously Texas Alabama Saturday night and o

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U s U is a compelling game
because I'm not you know, there's no

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uncertainty as to who wins the game. It's just how hello you look?

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Will oh you be as efficient and
as ferocious and it's energetic you know,

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Saturday as they were last week against
harvas O State. I was blown away

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by OU last week. I was
blown away by both quarterbacks. So we'll

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see. I mean, that was
a great first step. Brow os US

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game Saturday night has the potential to
be really funky but fascinating. At Arizona

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State, who I don't think it's
very good yet have a new coach.

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In fact, I picked a issue
to win this game. And my explanation

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in the pick in the paper was
in the time that Mike Gundy has been

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the head guy Tyler at OSU,
Arizona States had five different head coaches and

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in the last fifteen years, ow
issues one one hundred and forty ball games

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and Arizona States one nine. So
I just figured, you know, OSSes

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quarterback situation is pretty cloudy at the
moment. I don't know what they have.

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I don't apparently they don't know what
they have. But O issue has

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an identity of program stability, and
they've been finding ways to win for a

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long time, and I think they'll
find a way to win. Saturday and

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Tulsa goes up to Washington, and
I saw that one of the ESPN Top

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esp and college football people expressed the
opinion that Washington may have the best offense

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in college football. So Kevin Wilson
had a great debut to You, had

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a pretty uneven first quarter, turned
it over three times, trailed by seven,

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could have easily trailed by fourteen or
even seventeen, but got it together

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one forty two seven over Pine Bluff. So Tulsa up at Seattle this week

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hosting oh You. The week after
that Tyler, so interesting two weeks coming

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up for tu and then of course
the high schools a right here are just

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ridiculously intense and interesting. In Jinks
Union and Friday Night, I'll be at

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that one. So just a super
great a Cowboys Giant Sunday night. Holy

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cow. So what a great,
great first full weekend of football. I'm

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fired up for I will not be
leaving my couch soaking it all in.

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I mean Friday night, Jake's Union, I mean my jay Hawks played Illinois.

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Good college game two. I mean
that is a good game, right,

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00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,799
It's it's stacked all weekend. I
can't wait for it all. Certainly

406
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,839
gonna be fascinating to wash. Let's
start off with the suitors you mentioned first.

407
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:14,240
I was there Saturday saw then blow
the doors off Arkansas State seventy three

408
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,920
to nothing. Was very impressed when
I saw with that Oklahoma team. And

409
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,359
you know, if you looked at
the box score bill, it'd be hard

410
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:29,039
to find any flaws with what Oklahoma
did. But if we're gonna nit get

411
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,319
nit picky and look at the film
and such, there was a number of

412
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:37,599
times where did oh you play great? Yes, Arkansas State just made a

413
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:43,559
lot of dumb mistakes and stood in
their own way, leaving a missing wide

414
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:49,200
open receivers, careless penalties and such
like. I came away from that game

415
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:54,000
great win for OHU. But I
mean another team that has a smart coach,

416
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:58,440
like an SMU or something, it's
probably looking at that film and said,

417
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Wow, there were so many opportunities
the Arkansas State misst on here that

418
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Mike get exposed here pretty soon.
No, I would say, well,

419
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:12,119
I mean, I don't think anybody
came out of the OU opener with any

420
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,639
sort of delusions that, oh my
lord, this is the top five team.

421
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,760
They're not. They're not. I
don't know how you could possibly know

422
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,760
what they are yet. That's what
I vote. Actually that night was is

423
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,400
we won't know really until October seventh. I think we won't really really know

424
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,679
what OU is made of. We
won't really know have a clear definition of

425
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:37,079
this team until you know, mid
evening after they've played Texas on the seventh,

426
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,159
and by then, because I mean, I expect, oh you,

427
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,719
I mean, if you look at
it, though, you is going to

428
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,039
be favorite and should win each of
its first five, the fifth of those

429
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:52,519
five being now the fourth game.
Tyler's interesting now because it's at Cincinnati,

430
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,079
right. Cincinnati lit it up last
week. They've got a new coach,

431
00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:00,320
they're rebuilding there there. I don't
think they're anywhere near where they were when

432
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,679
they went to the playoff. But
but I've talked to Tulsa people for years

433
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,599
who say that playing at Cincinnati is
tough. It's tough, and the fans

434
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:14,119
are right on top of you,
and they're very vocal, and it's intense.

435
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:16,639
And that's Cincinnati's first Big twelve game
ever, so those people are going

436
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:22,920
to be fired up to have Owe
you in their house, big nude and

437
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,880
everything. Yeah, first Big twelve
game ever, and so that's not going

438
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,719
to be easy. And then Iowa
stayed the following week, and Iowa stayed

439
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,840
has a history of winning games against
teams with deeper, more talented rosters.

440
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,000
But I mean in Norman, there's
no excuses. Come on, I mean,

441
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,599
you don't lose that game. So
oh, you should be five and

442
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,440
ol going into the Texas game.
I don't know what Texas is made of

443
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,960
either. I mean, they weren't
very good for a half against Rice and

444
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,400
then you know, one comfortably.
But we'll see what Texas is made of

445
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Saturday night at Tuscaloosa and then certainly
what OU is made by the end of

446
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,880
the first six games at sixth game
being OU Texas in the cotton Balls.

447
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,639
So but no, I mean they
just did Saturday against Arkansas State, Tyler

448
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,920
exactly what you're supposed to do.
If if that was golf, that would

449
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,599
have been an easy par I'm not
ready to give him a Burrie or an

450
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:27,679
eagle for being a bad Arkansas State
team. By seventy three, SMU probably

451
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,800
will be Well, we'll see.
I mean I would, I would,

452
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,760
I would expect SMU to have a
cleaner, better performance than what we saw

453
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,079
from Arkansas State. But again,
no excuse is this in Norman? Oh

454
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,480
you should win by a million?
But how does it look right? That's

455
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,320
why I'm interested in the ball game, you know, And I come at

456
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,599
this from an outside perspective. But
when I looked at this Oklahoma team entering

457
00:36:53,639 --> 00:37:00,880
twenty twenty three, Bill, I
looked at wide receiver position, adds some

458
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:07,920
gaps, The defensive line looked undersized, you know, kind of lacking athleticism.

459
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Are what are the issues you see
that potentially plagued this Oklahoma team that

460
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
could hold him back? Or those
are the things you're looking at what catches

461
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:22,599
your eye which could stumbled Oklahoma's way? I mean well, I mean every

462
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:30,920
if you're if you're good and consistently
good, both are from a performance standpoint

463
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:37,360
and a leadership standpoint. At the
quarterback position, it lifts everything. Everything's

464
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,360
better when the quarterback position is reliable. And I was thinking about this Saturday,

465
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,599
is you know, it does make
sense that Dylan Gabriel would come out

466
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,039
clicking at a nice level because you
know, this time of year ago,

467
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,079
he had been around Jeff Levy only
a few months, right, Well,

468
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:57,280
he's been with Jeff. He and
Jeff Levy have been sitting together in meetings

469
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000
and shoulder to shoulder on the practice
field now for a year and a half.

470
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,280
So it makes a lot of sense
that Dylan Gabriel is ready to have

471
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,880
a much better year and that by
now too. You know, all those

472
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,159
guys in that clubhouse know him,
trust him. The shock, you know,

473
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,320
and a year ago two they were
still they were still I think I

474
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,480
feel like they were still jolted by
the shock of Lincoln Riley's departure and losing

475
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:28,239
Caleb Williams and losing a bunch of
guys, and you know that was that

476
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,199
was just a tough, tough,
unexpected transition to have to make. But

477
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,239
oh no, I see you say, what issues or what position groups or

478
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,280
whatever? Am I watching right now
most intently all of them? I mean,

479
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,039
I want to see their offensive line
be able to control games. I

480
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:50,639
mean think think back to five and
six years ago, and literally every guy

481
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,039
up front at OU ended up in
the NFL, all of them. I

482
00:38:54,119 --> 00:39:00,760
mean, these weren't undrafted free agencies, were drafted NFL level guys. And

483
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:07,360
I don't I do not see anything
near that right now, only because you

484
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,239
know they're they've got some new faces
and there just isn't that body of work

485
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:19,000
yet. But I watched the offensive
line intently, the whole front seven of

486
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:24,119
the defense, and and then just
watch to see how they are off the

487
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:29,360
snap, and then to say,
okay, how how are they going to

488
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,679
hold up against Iowa State? How
are they gonna hold up against Texas?

489
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,280
How are they gonna hold up against
k State? Wait a minute, do

490
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:40,480
they play KSE State and this is
pay k State? No, there you

491
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:49,079
go. Yeah, And and OLSU
doesn't play Texas Tech Baylor in Texas.

492
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,440
Yeah. Yeah, this is a
this is an odd season. I'm so

493
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:57,880
it's like gunned, he said Monday, he was chewing out his couple of

494
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,840
his assistant coaches. He said,
are not chewing them out, but talking

495
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,800
with them in a meeting a defensive
assistance and said, you know, if

496
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,880
we make this mistake whatever they were
talking about. He said, if we

497
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,840
make this mistake against TCU, they'll
kill us. And one of the assistants

498
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,480
at coach we don't play TCU.
So, yeah, this is a funky

499
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:22,800
year. No, I'm watching everything
from the front of the defense to the

500
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:30,639
back and the guy's catching it and
the guy's running blocking everything at OU because

501
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,000
I just don't feel like we're going
to really know what they're running out there

502
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:39,000
until in the mid season or so. Every game is a I wouldn't say

503
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,519
I prove it deal, but but
it's well, not a prove it deal,

504
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:47,119
but it's certainly a you know,
it'll be a revelation from week to

505
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,880
week to week, and you know
they should be better in two and three

506
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,639
weeks from now than they are right
now. So they should get they should

507
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:58,239
improve, they should they gotta start, they gotta I want to see OU

508
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,159
control games. Let's see. I
mean, hell, Bill, I mean

509
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:06,199
you go back to last year.
They had a great September last season and

510
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:12,719
things went downhill after that. So
it was yeah, from here. They

511
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,320
were sixth in the country coming out
of the Nebraska game last year and dominated

512
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,800
that game, won by I think
their first three they won by right just

513
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,440
about exactly one hundred points, like
ninety eight points, and then uh,

514
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,360
you know, lose at home to
Kay State and get blacked by TCU in

515
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,280
Fort Worth and then the Texas disaster
and the season was broken and finished yea

516
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,800
point. So you know, that's
another thing I'm watching for two. I

517
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,840
mean, I'm kind of looking forward
to see, you know, you have

518
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,719
a rough patch over a quarter and
a half or something, and to see

519
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,639
how they respond because last year,
you know, I mean, how much

520
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:58,239
how much uh PTSD do they have
coming out of last season because they had,

521
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,920
you know, so many tough game
games and I mean obviously a seven

522
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:08,360
lost season. But if they're cornered, Let's say Iva State comes in and

523
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,360
plays remarkably well and it's a in
ou trails by three going in the fourth

524
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,719
quarter. I'm not gonna start.
I'm not gonna like panic and freak out

525
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,719
and say, oh no, oh, U's a fraud. It ain't like

526
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,639
that, because I have a state
has done that to a lot of teams.

527
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:27,519
But how do they You spun canoe, You get three stops and two

528
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,440
scores and go ahead and win that
game. If IWA State shows up and

529
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:37,079
it's great that day. So that'll
that in itself would be a positive step

530
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:40,440
for you have to win a tough
game like that, especially going into Texas.

531
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,679
I'm looking at Dylan Gabriel. You
know, Bill, I cover the

532
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,400
NFL from my day job now,
and I see Dylan Gabriel as a guy

533
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,519
that's got so much to gain,
not only for to make, you know,

534
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:57,960
be the centerpiece of Oklahoma, being
a contender to you know, compete

535
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,760
in the Big Twelve and potentially make
the College Ball Ploff, but if he

536
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,239
plays well and continues to show you
know, how well he can be as

537
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,159
a passer and accurate, you know, with arm strength, moability, all

538
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:14,320
that, he very well could play
his way to be being an NFL quarterback

539
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,800
here. I mean, the ceiling
is is up there. There's a lot

540
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,559
that that Dylan Gabriel can grab on
here, no doubt. Well, I

541
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:25,400
mean it's it's the most important position
in the sport, and the NFL is

542
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:36,719
starved for not only guys who can
start, but I mean, how many

543
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,360
teams in the league right now.
I don't have the rosters in front of

544
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,440
me, but I mean, really, how many teams in the league right

545
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:47,000
now? Have a backup who they
truly would trust. Maybe how many?

546
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Maybe five, that's a good number. I would say maybe eight, max,

547
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,840
I mean, like Cooper Rush.
How many teams have a Cooper Rush?

548
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:04,000
Not many. I mean, you
know, a few weeks ago ago,

549
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,480
everybody thought that the Patriots were happy
with Bailey Zappy, and then he

550
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:12,719
got caught a couple of days later. So yeah, I mean there's a

551
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,840
lot to gain for Dylan Gabriel.
I'm I'm very good chance he will get

552
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,679
a chance. There's no doubt.
I'm very fascinating. I'm rooting for him.

553
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,440
I hope that he continues to shine
this year and he gets that chance.

554
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,039
I mean, if what that's that's
the beauty of this season. Though

555
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,360
Tyler is like, I mean,
if the season ended today, he would

556
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,760
still get his chance. But he
hasn't a chance to work himself way up,

557
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:44,079
his way into the draft and possibly
even as a mid round pick,

558
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,480
maybe higher even. I mean,
we've seen some weirdness in the draft.

559
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:51,079
We saw I'm taking over Stetson Bennett
right now, I can tell you that

560
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,960
much. Right we saw some We
saw a kid from Florida who completed fifty

561
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,599
and he was to what top five
pick whatever. He so yeah, I

562
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:07,440
mean yeah, Dylan Gazbruls got personally
a lot at stake, and OU has

563
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:14,639
the beautiful luxury of having a five
star backup who looked a really good in

564
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:20,800
the opening so O, OU is
beautifully outfitted at quarterback. And then at

565
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,119
the same time they're you know,
those two guys completed like ninety nine percent

566
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,760
of their throws the other day.
O Shoes got Yeah, a three quarterback

567
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,480
system that I don't There's no way
Mike Gundy wants to play three guys,

568
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,719
but I think he's I don't think
he's trying to be cute with the offense.

569
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,079
I think he's trying to figure out
who who he trusts moving forward.

570
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:47,920
And I would think all three of
those guys will play again at Arizona State

571
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:53,239
Saturday night. So let me ask
you that about that Oklahama State after last

572
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:00,599
week's performance against Central Arkansas. Where
where's the panic meter at right now?

573
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:07,519
You think it's still water. I
think it's more of a disappointment meter right

574
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:13,639
now, just that because you know
what, you know something they did it

575
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,400
still arter this year for the first
time ever, was sell out all of

576
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,599
their season tickets. They're sold out
in the preseason, they have sold out.

577
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:27,079
In twenty thirteen they ended up selling
all of their season tickets, but

578
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,079
it was like midway through the season
before they hit that sell out. From

579
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:37,599
point, they entered this season having
sold all their available every single season ticket

580
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,880
on the board. So you know, to have a sellout crowd, and

581
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,960
you're facing an FCS opponent, granted
a pretty good one, but still it's

582
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:54,119
an FCS opponent Central and Central Arkansas. And and for your run game through

583
00:46:54,159 --> 00:47:01,480
three quarters, Tyler to average three
yards a carry. After I would say

584
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:10,039
nine seasons of the offensive line being
either average or below average, I think

585
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:15,320
it's here we go again. Feeling
right now for the OSU fans with regard

586
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,760
to the offensive line, because because
I can tell you I was on the

587
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,679
beat and during Mike's first seven seasons
on that job, in that job at

588
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:35,880
OSSUE, and from six through twenty, I would say twenty twelve, Ossue

589
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,400
had the best offensive line culture in
the conference. A few of sacks allowed,

590
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:45,239
led the league in rushing like all
but one of those years, controlled

591
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,880
games one games because of their offensive
line. Whether OSU was like best of

592
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,239
all time good at quarterbacks like where
they were with Brandon Whedon or at times

593
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:04,159
when they were just they just had
like a nice situation at quarterback, like

594
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,519
they did well in twenty twelve.
They rotated guys like crazy because of injuries

595
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:14,239
and still set a couple of team
records. I think that still stand for

596
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,960
you, like yardage and whatever.
So but no, I think I think

597
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:27,360
I think it was really demoralizing for
the fans to have to watch such a

598
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,719
a bland performance by the offense in
the opener when that crowd was ready to

599
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,840
you know, I was ready to
rock all night and just didn't get many

600
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:45,000
chances. And then you have Gunner
Dundee, Mike's son come off the bench

601
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,840
in the fourth quarter and lead them
to two touchdowns. And for whatever reason,

602
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,840
I'm thinking maybe on a hot night, maybe Central Arkansas's defenders got a

603
00:48:52,840 --> 00:49:00,079
little fatigue by the fourth quarter.
But alas, you averaged eight yards a

604
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,840
rush attempt in the fourth quarter versus
three through the first three quarters. So

605
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:12,880
does that mean that they figured out
some stuff and it just all clicked better,

606
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,920
or did Central get worn down by
that point in the game. I

607
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:22,760
don't know, but I would say
OSU certainly has a more speed and probably

608
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:28,280
more guys you can trust in a
game than Arizona State does. But Arizona

609
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,760
State at least knows what they have
a quarterback. They have a freshman who,

610
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:36,559
like everybody wanted and who was going
to go to Florida until an nil

611
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:40,519
situation fell apart and he ended up
at a SU. So that's an interesting

612
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:45,400
game that kicks off at nine thirty
Central. It's your conference game too,

613
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:52,000
as of next year, it's a
conference game, right, Yeah, it's

614
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:55,519
just you can't. I mean,
there's so many matchups on the board where

615
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:05,360
either recently divorced programs are facing each
other or soon or programs that are engaged

616
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,559
to be married. Yeah. You
taught Baylor this weekend too. Yeah,

617
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,280
that's hey, that's an interesting game. Baylor didn't want to go be a

618
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:19,480
start oh and two and I was
kind of stunning last week they got Baylor

619
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,320
got handled. They didn't just get
beat, they got handled. G J.

620
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:27,079
Kenny's a good coach and my man, GJ. Man he was a

621
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:32,920
really good quarterback here at Tulsa for
Todd Graham and one season for Bill blanket

622
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:39,760
Ship and got into coaching his dad
as a coach, and here he is

623
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,480
you know younger. How would how
old would he even be if he's like

624
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:49,320
thirty four, thirty five and he's
a rising star of a coach. So

625
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,800
good for GJA down to Texas State. But yeah, it's a you know,

626
00:50:57,039 --> 00:51:00,559
Tulsa has a new coach, Kevin
Wilson, former o U and Ohio

627
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:07,239
State offensive coordinator. Tulsa had their
starting quarterback though two early picks and ding

628
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,280
his ankle in the first quarter of
the other night, Tyler, and they

629
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:15,039
brought in a Richard freshman who hadn't
gotten hardly, you know, any anything

630
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:17,840
in the way of manyful reps to
that point, and that kid lit it

631
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:23,159
up and had a great night,
completed a super high percentage, took care

632
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:27,519
of the football, got the offense
going, and Tulsa wins forty two to

633
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:31,920
seven. So it's my hope that
when ou placed here in two weeks that

634
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:37,039
to you can stress them a little
bit. I mean, I don't owe

635
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:38,760
you right now. To me,
doesn't need to win seventy three to nothing

636
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,239
every week. They don't need that
kind of an opponent from them. They

637
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,920
need to They need to get better, and you get better by facing teams

638
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:54,000
who are better than Arkansas State.
Yeah, seems like you mentioned Oklahoma State

639
00:51:54,079 --> 00:52:01,000
with the sellout that they got going
on with I heard to you today sold

640
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:06,800
out that Ou game, first time
they've had a cell since twenty oh nine.

641
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,039
I mean, just a lot of
energy right now in the state of

642
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:13,639
Oklahoma. I know OU play OU
as a big part of that for both

643
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:19,239
those schools, but I mean you
could sense just the excitement in the era

644
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,199
all around. It seems oh yeah, well, I mean jameson Union play

645
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,360
Friday, and that'll that'll be that'll
be a sellout. They will, they'll

646
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,599
cap that had about ten thousand,
and they'll be ever bit of that there.

647
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,480
No, I mean I just think
think about it too, Tyler.

648
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:39,400
The more we get removed, I
think there was still a COVID, pretty

649
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:45,079
good COVID hangover in twenty one twenty
twenty one, and maybe there were even

650
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,920
people a year ago who weren't quite
ready to go back out, you know,

651
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,400
into big crowds and be around people. I don't know. But now

652
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,159
that we this is the third full
season, well, twenty twenty obviously was

653
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:06,559
tremendously impacted by COVID twenty one to
some extent, twenty two, we're starting

654
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:12,960
to really disconnect from COVID with regard
to getting a football season played. And

655
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,199
now it just feels like like a
lot of people and not just sports,

656
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,920
but just you know, I mean
concerts. I mean, tu had a

657
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,840
big rock concert at the stadium a
few nights ago, right, Motley Crude,

658
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:34,719
def Leppard, Alice Cooper and it
was a Jay impact. It was

659
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,119
full. So I just think people
are ready to get out of the house.

660
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:44,239
I think people are ready to get
their lives back. So in spite

661
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:52,559
of, you know, the impact
of the portal on rosters, I know

662
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:57,239
it's it's a nightmare for coaches to
try to manage a roster when they have

663
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,800
such freedom to move. But and
you know, at the same time too,

664
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:07,960
I was saying eight months ago,
how are these athletic departments supposed to

665
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:16,480
market their programs when there's so little
retention on players and familiarity with these players.

666
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:22,360
And yet Tulsa is way beyond where
they've been on season tickets always you

667
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,400
set a record, and ou is
at or beyond where they always are on

668
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:31,079
season tickets. So I mean,
obviously everybody loves football, but also I

669
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:39,360
think people are really energized and ready
to kind of put COVID way way in

670
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,880
our rearview mirrors and let's go,
let's get our lives back. Definitely,

671
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,719
definitely, So Bill, last year, when we were talking during the season,

672
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,360
you were one of the first people
that was all in on TCU and

673
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,559
said they were going to win the
conference. They didn't technically win the league,

674
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,519
but you know they went on college
frotball playoff, of course. So

675
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,239
I gotta ask you. I know
it's very early, but what do you

676
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,679
make of the Big Twelve race this
upcoming season? Texas is the favorites,

677
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,920
but last week against Rice, they
didn't look too impressive. I know there's

678
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:19,000
question marks on that opensive line there
in Austin, and they'll be tested this

679
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,280
week in Tusca lous So what do
you think of the battle among those top

680
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,599
teams in the Big Twelve this year? Well, I mean, I wish

681
00:55:24,639 --> 00:55:28,840
we had more. I mean,
I wish we were talking about that three

682
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,719
weeks from now instead of now.
But I mean my pick to win the

683
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:42,440
conference on paper going into the season
was Kase State to repeat, and I'm

684
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:50,199
based that mostly on them being so
beautifully coached. I just think Chris Clemon

685
00:55:50,320 --> 00:56:00,199
is me it's pretty remarkable how k
State managed to find I won't say Bill

686
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:05,599
Snyder clone, but with regard to
keeping it steady and keeping it on a

687
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:09,320
straight line, man, Chris Klemon
and Bill Snyder have a lot in common.

688
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:13,440
I mean, right now, I
would, yeah, Kay State,

689
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,239
it's a safe pick, which sounds
crazy also to say that in a league

690
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:23,039
with Texas and OU. But to
me, Kay State is the safe pick.

691
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:27,599
I kind of thought, bet Over, take a step back. I

692
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,920
really sensed that TCU because TCU had
a portal team last year, Tyler.

693
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:35,679
I mean, they had so many
new guys that came in through the portal.

694
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,519
What are the odds that that many
new guys are going to come together

695
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:43,480
over a period of a few months
and jail like they jailed. I mean,

696
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,039
so I certainly didn't in the beginning
of the season last year, I

697
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,480
didn't notice. I didn't have any
idea to think that TCU would be a

698
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,800
factor at the top of the standings. But after watching them play two or

699
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,480
three times, I mean, keeping
mind, Max Dublin was and even the

700
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:05,800
opening day starter right all right?
And I guess Morris was right. And

701
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:12,400
Duggan has this season for the Ages, so right now, the combination of

702
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,239
having you know, I met Will
Howard at all at the Big twelve media

703
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:21,119
in in Arlington. I had no
idea he was that big of a guy.

704
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,559
Holy call, he's a big man. He he really looks like an

705
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:30,719
NFL quarterback walking around. So I
think the combination of his experience and ability

706
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:38,480
with Chris Klymens coaching and just steady
man and they just don't beat themselves and

707
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:44,599
they don't do stupid penalties. So
yeah, that as we speak anyway,

708
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,960
that's my pick to win it all. But to win the league. But

709
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,960
who's got the most talented squad?
It's Texas, right, absolutely, it's

710
00:57:54,039 --> 00:58:00,679
Texas. So just Texas. You
know that there are a seven point underdog

711
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:05,880
at TUSCA lousy and they played the
heck you know, they played the heck

712
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:13,519
out of Alabama last year. So
that's must see TV Saturday night to get

713
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:16,280
a real feel for where the Longhorns
are, because I gotta tell you,

714
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,480
coming out of their spring game,
I was a believer and it's been a

715
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,639
long time since I've been a believer
in Texas. And even during the same

716
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:29,320
Elenger years, I guess they had
the one ten win season during those years

717
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:37,400
but I never bought Texas as a
real threat to OU's stranglehold on the conference

718
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,400
championship during those years. I just
never did. But I think Texas now.

719
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,800
I watched the special on the Longhorn
Network coming out of their spring practice,

720
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:53,800
and it just everything they said was
they said the right things, and

721
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,679
they just they're not dancing around saying
we're back there. It's none of that

722
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:07,360
stuff. And I do think Sarcasian's
a really bright guy. So Texas wins

723
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,920
Saturday and you're like, oh my
lord, here we go with Texas.

724
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:21,239
Or if Texas plays respectably and doesn't
win Saturday, how do they respond to

725
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,360
a disappointment. That'll be very interesting
because there's been some recent seasons when they

726
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:34,480
lost unexpectedly to like Maryland twice to
Maryland and then you just seem to kind

727
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,280
of break Texas's heart and maybe they
didn't ever fully recover. So how do

728
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,760
they recover if there is a disappointment
on Saturday? And then of course if

729
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,679
they win, then everybody in Texas
is going to lose their minds and we're

730
00:59:47,679 --> 00:59:51,519
gonna have a heck of a year
ahead of us. We're gonna have a

731
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:52,920
heck for a year one way or
the other. I mean, definitely was

732
00:59:52,960 --> 01:00:02,920
really good. I think UCF is
gonna be really good. I think there's

733
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,880
I think the top half of the
league is pretty competitive, pretty good,

734
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:10,920
I do. I think so too. It's done. I'm with you.

735
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,199
I think Texas are really good,
but they're not carrying the weight of the

736
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,039
league here. I mean, there's
a lot of competitive teams as far as

737
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:22,480
I'm concerned. Last question, Well, we'll end on this bill, the

738
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:29,960
carousel that is, conference realignment almost
done for now, waiting to see ultimately

739
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,239
what happened with Oregon State and Washington
State. But with now that the dust

740
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,480
is almost settled here, what's kind
of your thoughts on the way things went

741
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:45,159
and how things ended up shaking out
for OU and os US position here.

742
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:52,559
Well, I mean I was I
was actually talking in the office, our

743
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:58,000
office yesterday with a couple of guys, and I hadn't really thought about it

744
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:00,320
in these terms yet, but I
said, can you ever remember in the

745
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:07,840
history of major college athletics a commissioner
being as impactful as Brett your mark?

746
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:13,760
Ever? I mean, there's been
some great commissioners in the Big Ten and

747
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:20,480
the SEC, but they kind of
inherited always. They always were in a

748
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:27,159
position of leverage, and they inherited
healthy, powerful leagues. Right, It's

749
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:30,280
only a few months ago it felt
like the Big Twelve was pretty wobbly and

750
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,440
might even fall off the cliff.
After over you and Texas announced that they

751
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,440
were going to leave. So what
Bret your Mark did at the same time

752
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:47,119
that the Pact twelve made some bad
decisions. Not only did it save the

753
01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:52,920
Big Twelve, but I mean,
if you're looking at a geographical if you're

754
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:58,000
trying to make sense of it geographically, you can't. It's impossible, it's

755
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:04,599
ridiculous. But uh, if you're
looking at viability and the fact that Brett

756
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:13,840
Gormark scored a really nice TV deal
that goes through twenty thirty one, and

757
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:15,320
you know, I wrote about this
a couple of weeks ago, but it

758
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:22,159
really surprises me and disappoints me that
more people aren't upset or don't seem upset

759
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:27,599
by the demise of Bedlam, because
I'm gonna really miss Beddlam. But I

760
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:31,239
think the OSU people are really happy
with Brett Gormark and what he wound up

761
01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:37,440
piecing together, and that the revenue
will be not only sustained, but a

762
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,400
little beyond where it has been with
the two big schools in the conference.

763
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:47,039
I don't even know what to say
about about the fact twelve. That's shocking,

764
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,480
h you know, to have the
LA schools go to the Big ten

765
01:02:52,760 --> 01:03:01,599
and then you felt it felt like
those were two massive dominoes that could you

766
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:04,480
know, I mean, but think
about it. That could have been the

767
01:03:04,519 --> 01:03:07,920
Big twelve. What's happening with the
back twelve right now, Tyler? That

768
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:13,159
could have been the Big twelve.
So it's either eat or get eaten right

769
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:17,599
right and break Gormart man, he
just came out. I mean, he

770
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:22,480
just hits driver on every shot.
He didn't give a damn. I mean

771
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,559
he's I mean, obviously he gives
a damn, But I'm saying he's not

772
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:28,800
afraid to take a risk. And
my Gundy said, he's even had to

773
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,320
rely because apparently Gormart talks a lot
with the coaches in the league. He

774
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,960
goes, he texts, he will
text or call these coaches a lot and

775
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,320
say what do you think it's so
and so? And Gundy said, a

776
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,480
couple of times I've told him,
you know, that's that's a little over

777
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:46,760
the top. Let's not try that. But I love that the commission,

778
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:55,440
that the conference has a commissioner who's
a bold person and came in there with

779
01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:02,320
history more in I mean he did
some big things with NASCAR, but I

780
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:09,800
mean more recently, he was in
show business, right with Jake And so

781
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,360
for him to come in there and
navigate his way through waters she had never

782
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,679
been in before so skillfully. And
did Brett yourmark put the PAC twelve out

783
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:27,239
of business? Note? So sc
and UCLA did that, But what did

784
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,599
Brett your Mark? I mean he
did what I mean you have to do.

785
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,000
I mean, there were some nice
commodities out west and he wouldn't got

786
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:45,480
him. And I'm telling you Utah, Arizona State. If Arizona State can

787
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:48,400
ever figure itself out in football,
like I told you earlier, I mean

788
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,599
they had five head coaches in the
same amount of time at Gundy's been at

789
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:57,000
OSU, Arizona State's got to get
got to write that ship and have some

790
01:04:57,159 --> 01:05:02,000
stability over a long term. That's
a great market. I'm more than happy

791
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:06,679
to go to Phoenix, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, not just for

792
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:11,400
a bowl game, and I'm ready
to go out there more frequently. You

793
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,840
ever stayed at the Camelback by the
Way for a Bowl game. I've not

794
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:23,119
it is. It is the nicest
hotel slash accommodation resort situation I've ever had

795
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:28,840
in my career. So oh yeah, when whenever you can go, when

796
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,760
you ever reason to go, Okay, that's where they put you. You

797
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:38,280
get to stay at the nicest hotel
situation in the country for the price of

798
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:44,880
a regular hotel. So make sure
you go. All your list. I'm

799
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,639
going to Final four in April,
so I might have to make that happen.

800
01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:51,960
So we're final forward this year,
Phoenix. Oh, there you go.

801
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:58,440
But it's at Glendale. Hunt's at
the stadium at Glendale. Yeah.

802
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:05,719
Yeah, sounds like like what I've
heard is like the media activities over the

803
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:11,440
weekend are gonna be in Scottsdale and
then they're gonna shuttle everybody to the stadium

804
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,880
in Glendale for He's. One of
the great New Year's eaves of my life

805
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:20,639
was in Scottsdale, So you'll you'll
really enjoy going out. I thrive at

806
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:25,079
scotts Stale. Pill Uh. That's
that's my vibe, you know. I

807
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:29,760
mean, just I've I feel like
a mature twenty one year old, you

808
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,360
know in uh in Scottsdale, you
know, the best of both worlds.

809
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,400
Even though I'm you know, I'm
well passed that now, but I love

810
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:41,039
going out there, and really especially
around bull time because the weather is I'm

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amazing. Yeah, fifty eight degrees
sixty five for a high, zero humidity,

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no wind. I never had taken
golf clubs out there, but you

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know I should do that too.
Yeah. Where can people find all your

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work in what you're doing these days? Follow me on Twitter at Bill Hasting

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and then obviously I write just about
every day for the Tulsa World Tulsa World

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dot com. And you know what, I'm really happy and proud of what

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we're doing with our staff right now. And we're We've had a great start

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to the football season. We're going
to have a great mid season and a

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great rest of the year. So
Tulsa World dot Com look forward to it.

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Bell Preship times always, we'll talk
to into the line. You're welcome,

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see you, Tyler