1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:11,199 You're listening to w n H command God, don't get so greenly Matt south 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:48,000 coving you. Good morning, everybody, Welcome, Happy Saturday. It is 3 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:53,439 that time again, Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of 4 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,560 w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New 5 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Ympshire. Also on Comcast. No, I'm sorry, we're not on comcasts 6 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:07,200 now yet. We'll be back there though, let's see. But of course 7 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,719 you can stream us online and we're on social media and all of that. 8 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:15,879 On this still getting used to Saturday in the new Studio, Saturday Morning, 9 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,000 January twenty seven, twenty twenty four. We've got a great show for you, 10 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:34,439 and I am not alone. Best friend Morning Sunshine. Jenny is here 11 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:42,920 of course at the news table where, of course this is only I dub 12 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,680 the news desk. There you go, yes, yes, this is only 13 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:49,159 our second week in the new studio. So here on Canal Street, this 14 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:53,599 beautiful new studio. Cool. Yeah, it is. No, it's nice 15 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,239 to be in a new environment and very new. Everything's new for at least 16 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:04,040 very clean. So I love it. It is so it's wonderful, it 17 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:06,519 is it is wonderful. I do like how bright it is. Not everyone 18 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:09,120 likes it bright, but I I like it bright. I like it keeps 19 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,680 the neurons in the brain firing, you know what I mean? Yeah, 20 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:16,800 yeah, exactly exactly. Uh. Let's see. So we've got a great 21 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,280 show for you this morning. We've got our friend Eric Kilchure is going to 22 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,599 be skyping in to talk about his upcoming film reviews and uh and something else 23 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,639 that This has been big news in the last twenty four to forty eight hours. 24 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:32,240 We'll get into that. And then in the second hour, we've got 25 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:37,240 After the Winter, Yes, returning they were on a number of months ago. 26 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,759 They've got a brand new single which we're gonna play for you when they're 27 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 here, plus some of their other stuff as well. I love those guys. 28 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Really looking forward to what's that No one has parted so it'll be a 29 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:52,240 world radio premiere. It is it is the World World World premiere. Yeah, 30 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,639 so looking forward to that. And then in the third hour, we're 31 00:02:54,680 --> 00:03:01,080 going to be joined by Gary Lawrence who's coming in singer songwriter, and Tom 32 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:04,960 Russo is going to be with him, yeah, and we accompanying him. 33 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:12,199 They're going to uh they're going to do what I think. This is our 34 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,719 first Skype call in the new studio, so hopefully all goes well. Eric, 35 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:19,360 are you there? Yes, I am. Good morning, Matt, 36 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Good morning, Jenny, good morning. Time we're getting uh wait wait, 37 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,039 oh, maybe it went away sometimes with with Skype, it goes away, 38 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,560 Jenny talk. When it was when you were talking that I heard of I 39 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,159 was talking, I heard an echo. Okay, it's fine, it's better. 40 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:36,680 It cleared up. Yeah, Skype is weird like that. Sometimes it 41 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,080 sounds like there's something like there's a problem in the very beginning, and then 42 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,840 it clears up after after ten seconds. You ever noticed that, Eric, 43 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:46,360 Sometimes it's wonky right at the start, but then it clears right up. 44 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:53,599 That's one of the drawbacks I have with Skype, honestly. But it could 45 00:03:53,639 --> 00:04:00,159 have also been that I have the show on my iPad, ah, and 46 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,719 I might not have gotten the audio killed on the iPad right Billy, Oh 47 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,080 nope, it's gone again. I thought it was there again. No, 48 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:11,159 I don't. I don't hear it. No, it sounds sounds fine, 49 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,120 sounds good, sounds good. Uh. Let's see, so before we uh, 50 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:16,399 before we get into anything, I do want to mention too, the 51 00:04:16,439 --> 00:04:19,600 studio line is open. Eric is with us via Skype, so we do 52 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:23,319 have a studio line open if anyone wants to chime in on the discussion that 53 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,920 we're gonna have in the first hour. Uh the six O three two five 54 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,199 six seven is the studio line. Six oh three two five six seven. 55 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:34,600 By the way, while I'm thinking about it too, we almost had Vermin 56 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:39,920 Suprema on as a guest last week. He tried calling in, but unfortunately 57 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,199 someone I won't say who, Uh, we'll just uh say it was John 58 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,600 Hopwood gave him the wrong Uh. No, we love John, but John 59 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,879 gave him the wrong times. He thought I was on noon to three. 60 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,519 So that's because uh so Jenny and I are sitting here after the show and 61 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,199 you know, uploading the show and everything, and uh, the studio line 62 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,800 was ringing and the caller idea just said wireless caller. It didn't have a 63 00:05:03,879 --> 00:05:06,560 name on it. Found out later it was actually Vermin Supreme trying to call 64 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,839 into the show. But uh, anyway, but you can call us we 65 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:14,720 are live of course, if you call us while we're live every Saturday morning 66 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:16,800 from nine am to noon Eastern time, six o three two five o six 67 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,519 seven six three two five six seven. You can also text me at six 68 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,839 one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at 69 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:30,800 Matt Connerton and uh, of course you can always email me Matt at Matt 70 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,120 connorton dot com. But the best thing to do so that we can hear 71 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,759 and enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us a call at six O three 72 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,600 two five oh six oh seven. And I do want to say hello everybody 73 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:48,800 in the Facebook live chat just quickly here our faithful uh faithful live listeners here, 74 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,160 we've got Riley King joins us and says, good morning. The new 75 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,839 studio looks nice. Yes, Facebook is working for us this week, so 76 00:05:56,879 --> 00:05:59,519 you can actually see. We just have the one camera, but you can 77 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,160 you can kind of get a get a glimpse, get a vibe of the 78 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:04,839 new studio here on Canal Street. Eric Pilcher, I see you're in there, 79 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:10,240 of course. Uh. Melanie Liberty and Jay Fed from the great state 80 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,399 of Vermont join us. Ronda Faverro says, joining, Uh this very early 81 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,360 morning from California. Yeah, it's like six am there, Yes, yes, 82 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,639 very early. We appreciate that. Run. Thank you so much. 83 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,720 Hans Smith from the band Sepsis joins us and says, hey Metal, Matt, 84 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,199 Hello, Eazy g. Eric Gagnan says, are you ready for the 85 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:34,000 Royal Rumble? Yes, that is today. I know someone who isn't. 86 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:41,959 That's right, that's right, Yeah, no, uh no, Vinnie Mack. 87 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:45,639 Yeah, Well we'll talk about that in a moment. We should also 88 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,079 mention Eric, of course your Classic Film Reviews that's going to be returning shortly, 89 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,079 and we should talk about what you have planned for for February. Yeah. 90 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,439 You know, for the past two years, Uh, I've done We've 91 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:08,439 done for Black History Month of course, African Americans and cinema. Last year 92 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:14,759 we had it was an interesting month with some of the films that were chosen. 93 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Uh, this month, we're going to be a bit more We're gonna 94 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:24,360 be a little bit more low key about it. I don't think there's anything 95 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:32,279 that's going to generate the uh, generate the response that Shaft and Superfly did. 96 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Oh that's right. Yes, that that was interesting. Yes, not 97 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:43,839 everyone thought that those were necessarily the best selections, and but it facilitated some 98 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:49,079 really interesting discussion that came out of that. Yeah. But so this month. 99 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:58,079 Starting next week February third, we are going to complete the trilogy, 100 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:05,759 so to speak, uh of the urban youth films with John Singleton's Boys in 101 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,399 the Hood. Year one, we did the Hughes Brothers Menace to Society. 102 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:16,560 Last year we did Juice. This year we are going to do Boys in 103 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:22,360 the Hood, which I've always said is probably the glossier of the three. 104 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:28,480 Still a powerful film, And by saying that, I'm not trying to diminish 105 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,759 the power of that movie, but it does have a very big after school 106 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:45,240 special vibe. Then then for February tenth, we are I will be covering 107 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:50,320 Coming to America, the Eddie Murphy film one and two or Just One, 108 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,679 Just one, love that movie. Just One. Yeah. I haven't seen 109 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,600 the second one, and based on what people have told me, I don't 110 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:05,639 know if I will. I liked it, I didn't like I didn't like 111 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,200 the first one. I've never loved the first one. I don't think that 112 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,039 I don't think the first one is funny. I've never understood why people like 113 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,240 you're liking Street Zone this morning. You don't think anything is funny. I'm 114 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:20,559 just you aren't he woke up. Yeah, Yeah, it's trying to ning 115 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:26,840 jokes and he just sits there. What if anything? The cast is amazing 116 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:30,120 in that film, sent and a lot of them come back for the second 117 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,120 one. Eddie Murphy, Ursineo Hall, James Earl Jones. I thought John 118 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:41,720 Amos is in it, and like I mean John Amos. Uh he played 119 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:48,799 the adult Kunta Kintaian roots and just an amazing perform in my opinion, he 120 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:56,480 had the second best performance in that entire mini series after Ben Vereen is Chicken 121 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:03,759 George. But uh then week three, Uh, we will be covering Hustle 122 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:09,519 and Flow. Ah. Yes, that that that's a personal favorite of mine. 123 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 I don't think I've ever seen it. Quick, quick, quick side 124 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,240 note about Hustle and Flow. Uh that that's one of those few movies that 125 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,879 I had a visceral, very positive reaction at the end of it. I 126 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:22,440 just remember, at the very end, you'll you'll know what you haven't seen 127 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,519 it, Jenny, so you won't know. But uh, the the final 128 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:30,759 scene, the final line of dialogue in the film left me with a big 129 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:33,639 smile on my face when I watched it. I just loved it the end. 130 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:41,639 My favorite memory of that film is hearing an old white guy have to 131 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:46,320 say the song title, It's hard out here for a p right one, 132 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:54,600 best original song, Yep, yep, that's right, that's right. Yeah. 133 00:10:54,639 --> 00:11:01,840 And then we are going to wrap it up with Spike Lee's film about 134 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:09,480 this will probably be one of the more controversial choices of the month, Bamboozled, 135 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:16,919 which is a comedic look at the history of blackface and cinema. When 136 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,080 did that come out, Eric, Because I'm not even somehow that got by 137 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:28,120 me. Bamboozled came out in nineteen ninety eight, Okay, yeah, I 138 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:30,879 wasn't even aware of it until you mentioned it recently. It's like, oh, 139 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:37,120 that's that's interesting. Actually, I'm I'm wrong. Came out in two 140 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:41,960 thousand. Okay, well close, close. But you know, we do 141 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,440 live in an era. We live in a time where sometimes politicians get in 142 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,320 trouble because something will be unearthed or even or even other celebrities, you know, 143 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,559 of a picture of them making a poor choice in that vein you know, 144 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,919 when they were when they were younger and foolish, or or perhaps they 145 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:07,360 just assumed that, you know, maybe maybe they were photographed in blackface in 146 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:11,639 a time when they didn't you know, they couldn't have foreseen the Internet and 147 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,960 that those things would come back to haunt them, and we've we've seen instances 148 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,559 of that. So that's a very so actually, yeah, that sounds like 149 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:26,600 a very interesting film. Yeah, and you know it, I do remember 150 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,720 when it came out, a lot of Spike Lee got a lot of backlash 151 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:35,440 because he added comedic elements ye to the film and a lot of people are 152 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,639 like, well, how dare you make joke of this? And it's like, 153 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:46,120 well, I mean, in a way, he in a way, 154 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:54,480 he's making a joke at the at the people that felt blackface would be okay, 155 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Right, That's what I assume. I'm not having seen it, but 156 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,840 yeah, when you say that there's humor in a yeah, I assume he 157 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,360 pokes fun at the the people who are ignorant enough to think that that was 158 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:11,120 okay. And you know, in a way, yes, he does poke 159 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,919 fun at the performers that the African American performers that accepted it as well. 160 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:24,240 But you wouldn't expect anything less from Spike Lee, right of course. So 161 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:35,080 I yeah, I mean that that to me is just people that don't understand 162 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:41,919 the history of blackface and cinema looking for a reason to complain and Spike Lee 163 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,000 right wrong or indifferent has made a lot of enemies throughout his career. So 164 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:54,919 I mean he could direct, Uh, he could direct a g rated movie 165 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:03,559 and people are going to be detractors against it. Sure, but yeah, 166 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,799 no, I look forward to hearing that review and I'd like to check out 167 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:09,240 that film that that sounds great. So that's the Uh, that's the plan 168 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,840 for February. Excellent. Yes, that is the plan for February, and 169 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:18,600 it'll be the format will be a lot like what we did with George A. 170 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:26,039 Romero. I want to have like interviews with uh the creators and actors 171 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,360 really give a behind the scenes look at these films. Yeah, I like 172 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,240 that. I'm sorry good. Oh no, I wasn't gonna say anything. 173 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Oh okay, I think I was hearing my I think I was hearing a 174 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,159 little bit of you know, skypeing Skype. I was hearing a little bit 175 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,559 of echo of myself, and I thought it was you. No. I 176 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Uh, I was just going to say, I like the way that your 177 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,600 reviews have evolved, and uh, I think they're really good to you know, 178 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,919 it's a very popular feature here on the show. To begin with but 179 00:14:54,919 --> 00:15:00,080 but I think the way they've evolved is outstanding. Yeah, and I'm I 180 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,480 mean John Hopwood was the one that actually kind of led to the evolving because 181 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,759 he's like, they listened to hear your analysis of the film, and I'm 182 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,840 and in my head, I'm like, well, yeah, I get that, 183 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,919 but there's only so much I can say. But there is a lot 184 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:26,200 that the creators of the film and the actors and actresses can say. And 185 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:30,919 that's what really kind of led me to trying it and it worked out. 186 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:35,720 Yeah, especially a guy that was as open as George A. Romero was 187 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:43,519 in talking about his films. Right, absolutely, absolutely excellent, very good. 188 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,159 I want to say hello to USh Armaine Davis Elliott, another loyal listener 189 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,399 in the Facebook laugh chat. Good morning. Also just to quickly address something 190 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Melanie mentioned, as she said in the chat, uugh, So no politics 191 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:00,840 ever, we're not doing so just so everyone knows, just I won't get 192 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:06,759 into the details of of why I explained it once before and but so we're 193 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:11,039 not doing politics on this iteration of the program anymore here on w M and 194 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:17,360 H where we're just focusing on other things on Saturday mornings. But Melanie and 195 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:21,879 those of you who are interested in the subject, keep an eye on social 196 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:26,360 media because we have something separate from from the station that that we're going to 197 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:30,279 be working on. Jenny and I and of course Eric you'll be participating, 198 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,320 and some other people as well. So but we just in this venue. 199 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,879 We won't be discussing politics on the show, but we've got we've got something 200 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:42,159 else cooking. It's a lot nicer is to just have what we're doing. 201 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,600 To me, it's more exciting because we're getting to see so many local musicians 202 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:51,639 and artists. And I never realized that how many little gems and jewels there 203 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:56,080 are in the city, like the Mosaic Art Collective. Yeah, would You 204 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,639 wouldn't know unless you heard that it was there, and then you go there 205 00:16:57,679 --> 00:17:00,759 and you're like, oh, let's play. This is awesome. So I'm 206 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:04,079 loving that. I feel like we've just barely started to scratch the surface of 207 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,599 what we're gonna find as we go along. Melanie says, all right, 208 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,599 but mama isn't happy. I know, Tell Mama, tell mama, good 209 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,440 things are coming. Don't worry. We have we have, we have, 210 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,400 we have a lot to say on the subject, just not just not here, 211 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,480 we're gonna keep this uh away from the uh from the dirty business of 212 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:26,400 politics. But speaking of dirty business, to clean your arrow with something good 213 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,720 every once. And that's true. Yeah, that's true. That is about 214 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:37,720 to get dirty up. Well, let's uh, let me give the studio 215 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:40,200 line and then we'll we'll get into uh yeah, and then we are going 216 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:44,880 to shift gears six O three two five six seven six O three two five 217 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,559 o six o seven. Now on the on the positive end of this, 218 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,799 uh what we're what we're going to uh because it's actually so the really the 219 00:17:53,880 --> 00:18:00,079 really bad news that has been going on, uh that that broke within the 220 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:07,880 last twenty four hours actually is follows really good news for of course WWE. 221 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:12,079 They've got their new deal with Netflix, which will begin in January. If 222 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,759 that doesn't get if it doesn't right, that could be in jeopardy now. 223 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:18,839 Although I although I don't, I don't think so. I don't think so. 224 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,440 Yeah, but no, all right, I won't say anything more yet. 225 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,640 Oh I'm sorry, Jenny. I didn't mean no, no, no, 226 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,440 I meant I didn't want to go to jump ahead too far. Dave 227 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:37,559 Meltzer actually yesterday talked about this on the Observer Radio and the Netflix deal is 228 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:48,440 done. There's an understanding that Netflix knew that something more was probably going to 229 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:55,640 come out. Really Yeah, see, I wonder about that because Slimjym just 230 00:18:55,759 --> 00:19:00,279 pulled their sponsorship. They put a pause overnight. Yeah and yeah, but 231 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,119 I assume they're going to unpositive now, well, yeah, I don't know 232 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,880 today's the event. I mean, we're talking about WrestleMania. No where are 233 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,079 we talking about Royal Rumble? Thank you? I have my name is mixed 234 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,960 up, So that's supposed to happen today's Slimson was the big sponsor. Now 235 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,920 they're like, I don't know about this, So their logos off some stuff 236 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,359 and we'll have to wait until tonight to see whether or not they end up 237 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,200 coming out of it or not. But if they don't, I don't think 238 00:19:25,279 --> 00:19:29,039 that's a positive sign for the Netflix steal. I think the Netflix steal will 239 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:33,599 be will be fine. I think, Uh, the positive part of the 240 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,039 Netflix deal is it's not set to start for another year, right right, 241 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:48,720 and realistically, Like I'm gonna try to be delicate here, but it's early 242 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:53,759 and the rock star hasn't taken hold. Is this really shocking to anyone? 243 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:00,960 Yeah, not shocking that he has done heinous things is as far as women 244 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,119 are concerned. But how bad it is, how depraved it is, Yeah, 245 00:20:07,279 --> 00:20:11,400 that's that's pretty As a woman, I'm I just feel horribly sick the 246 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,839 more I hear, Well, let me just okay, So I wanted to 247 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:19,519 the Netflix steal. For anyone who doesn't know, it's what is it? 248 00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:25,119 I think it's uh, it's like, uh, five billion dollars or something. 249 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,400 It's an outrageous some of them for ten years, which is unheard of 250 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:34,160 usually these kind of any year. Netflix. By the way, they took 251 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,759 a pay cut. They're making less money to be on Netflix, are they 252 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:44,680 doesn't work out to less money up front? Yes, oh okay. I 253 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,000 don't understand why they're doing these multiple platforms. I mean part of the special 254 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:55,279 pay per views are on Peacock, the SmackDown is on Hulu. Well you 255 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:59,319 get more un raw is on Well you get more money that way. On 256 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,640 all these different as somebody who supposed to fans of the show are having to 257 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,240 run in chase to find all the different iterations. This should be in one 258 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:12,279 place. That'll never happen. It's particular. It used to be that way. 259 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:15,680 It used to be one place. Now you don't know where to go 260 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,759 to watch anything. And then there's gonna be a couple of months or so 261 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:25,440 that Rod just has nowhere to live. When the Netflix steal goes into effect, 262 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:32,079 the network will move to Netflix, right I did read that. Yes, 263 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:37,920 so all of the network content, including the premium live events will be 264 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:49,960 on housed on Netflix. SmackDown is moving to USA, yeah, and NXT 265 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,480 is moving to the CW. Really there's another one. Yeah, yeah, 266 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,559 Well, Hans in the chat room says we are in the biggest streaming wars 267 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,000 ever before. He's right. Everybody's scrambling for the same content, which is 268 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,440 good for the content makers, that's for certain. Well, they've they've been 269 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:15,599 a very lucky company, WWE, because they signed so when they signed their 270 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,559 last set of TV rights steals, it was right before it was shortly before 271 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,680 the pandemic. Ye, and of course no one foresaw what was coming, 272 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:30,160 but they signed what at that point were their biggest television rights steals ever. 273 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,400 Had that not happened, I don't know how that company would have survived the 274 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,759 pandemic because that was so those deals were worth so much money that that's what 275 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,519 kept them afloat. Really, I mean, they probably would have survived anyway, 276 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,960 but it would have been a lot tougher. So they were very, 277 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:49,400 very lucky. Well, it helped that DeSantis made them all special, they 278 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,359 could actually work in Florida, and then they did smart with all the different 279 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,400 cameras that they had where people could end up being one of the heads. 280 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,519 Yeah. I thought that was actually a good idea. Yeah, they actually 281 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:08,839 ripped that off from the NBA. Really, I remember that NOWBA did that 282 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:17,400 for the their playoff bubble and wwe just kind of ripped it off. But 283 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,480 I mean the NBA is just like, well, it isn't proprietary, and 284 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:32,519 you know, we're we're trying to run our playoffs in a compound in Florida. 285 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:34,799 This is somethings that just don't work with on an audience crowd, you 286 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:37,640 know. I mean, it doesn't hit you the same when somebody flips somebody 287 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:47,000 and there's nothing in the background schearing it on. The NBA didn't really really 288 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,720 care. But the rumor, and it's a rumor, is that ESPN didn't 289 00:23:52,920 --> 00:24:00,000 really care for it, and that's what really kind of led toes. Everyone 290 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:03,920 one's asked, well, why did an ESPN jump in on the new rights 291 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:12,839 deal. ESPN was pretty much there's been things WWE is done in ESPN's just 292 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,319 like, yeah, we're not doing it right. Well, it's always a 293 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,960 little awkward anyway for Ears. I know that at various times they've had different 294 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,400 segments and WWE content, but it's always a little bit awkward I think for 295 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,400 ESPN because it's you know, there's always going to be a segment of not 296 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,640 only a segment of their audience, which has dwindled over the years. I 297 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,599 know ESPN's had a lot of problems, but also too, I'm sure there's 298 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,880 a lot of people within that company who are like, huh, why do 299 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 we have to Why are we doing this fake stuff? This isn't real sports? 300 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Why are we getting involved in this? You know what I mean. 301 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,119 I'm sure there's people in that in that company who really are resistant to doing 302 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,559 anything with wrestling. So but well, and also keep in mind that one 303 00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:07,400 of their top personality has been very, very outspoken against WWE Jonathan Coachman. 304 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,440 Yeah, yeah, I saw I saw an interview that he did. Uh 305 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:18,519 yeah, he was very critical. It was so yeah, I so ESPN, 306 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:22,720 I mean, people, there are people in the Chad who may not 307 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:30,279 care or too young to remember this. ESPN was the first cable company to 308 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:37,200 have pro wrestling on its network. They had the aw A. Yeah, 309 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:44,440 that's what kept the awa aflow for much longer than any of the other territories 310 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,039 that Vince put out a business because they had the ESPN deal. They had 311 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:56,559 they had one hour a day on ESPN from three to four. What an 312 00:25:56,599 --> 00:26:03,880 odd time, thought, So yeah, it kept them afloat for the longest 313 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480 time. Wasn't wasn't, come to think of it, wasn't world Class Championship 314 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:15,279 Wrestling also on ESPN or ESPN two during the during the eighties. No world 315 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:21,119 Class was not World Class was simulcast by the sports network because I saw it. 316 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,680 I know my I know the cable system uh my family had when I 317 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,240 was a kid. Somehow I was able to see World Class because the the 318 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:38,559 theme song is forever etched in my memory. That the the the oh yeah, 319 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:45,240 it's like it's it's stuck in my brain forever. Yeah. I believe 320 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:53,599 they were a part of TSN. Okay, not a national sports network or 321 00:26:53,799 --> 00:27:00,799 national cable network. I mean in ESPN, wasn't the first Obviously TBS and 322 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:07,400 TBS was with World Championship Wrestling. But outside of TBS and Turner, ESPN 323 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:17,720 took They needed content in their early days, and AWA already had filmed programming. 324 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,759 So what's the best way to get content, Well, programming you don't 325 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:27,240 have to pay production costs for all you have to pay is for rights to 326 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:33,279 broadcast, and that's all ESPN had to pay. But that kept the AWA 327 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,559 afloat for their final I would say two and a half three years that in 328 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:48,079 vern constantly milking the equity of his Lakes Lakes lake front home in Minnesota, 329 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:53,400 ver Gania. One other interesting thing about the Netflix steel I was reading too 330 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,720 that I didn't know initially is it Apparently there's a couple of five year options 331 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,640 worked into it. So, for example, at a at the five year 332 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,880 point, it's a ten year deal. But at the five year mark, 333 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,480 if Netflix isn't happy about anything, they can exercise an option to kick WWE 334 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:12,160 to the curb. And at the end of the ten years they have a 335 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:18,799 five year option where they can they can extend Netflix as the option to extend 336 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,279 for another five years at the same rate. I think they were released smart 337 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,279 about this, making it a fifteen year deal if they want to. What's 338 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:33,039 really shocking about this, and this wouldn't have happened if Vince was in control. 339 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,759 As much as I loathe and detest that man since an infamous November night 340 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:47,920 in nineteen ninety seven, this deal wouldn't have been made Evince was in charge 341 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:56,279 because it is a very very friendly deal to Netflix. Everyone sees five billion 342 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:06,559 dollars, but it's for theoretically a ten year period. WWE has to handle 343 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:15,279 all production and that's a very key part of the deal. The Netflix doesn't 344 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:22,960 incur any production costs and what you said, they can extend it and opt 345 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,559 out of it. Yeah, so it's a very friendly deal to Netflix, 346 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:41,599 which leads me to believe that WWE wasn't getting the offers they felt were were 347 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,720 worth it, or that they felt were fair, which I believe is due 348 00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:55,960 to all of this Vince McMahon's stuff, and once again chalks up to his 349 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:03,039 ego and selfish nature as a businessman, And I get it. All CEOs 350 00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,960 have to have an ego and all of this other stuff. Fine, cool, 351 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:14,839 but there's a difference between self ego and when your ego hurts the company, 352 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,039 and that's what it's done for the last two years. To WWE, 353 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:23,480 they are a damaged product because of Vince is the ego, and then there's 354 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:30,640 sadism. Seriously, yeah, I mean this is beyond anything. Well let 355 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640 me just let me just say about that before we before we go any further 356 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,720 too. So for anyone who hasn't been following, obviously, because of the 357 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,880 venue that we're in and the time of day and several different factors, we're 358 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,720 not going to go in any details here about what Vince the allegations against him 359 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,279 are specifically, but you can certainly if you're not aware. I mean at 360 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,599 this point, I mean, this is you know, it's pretty big news. 361 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,920 If you just google the name Vince McMahon, Uh, it will come 362 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:07,039 up. There's a there's a what's that? Or Janelle Grant or Janelle Grant. 363 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:12,480 Yes, there's a very detailed article in the Wall Street Journal that is 364 00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:18,119 uh that I would recommend if if people want something really in depth or or 365 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:22,039 I'm sorry, what Wall Street Journal has a paywall? Oh that's true, 366 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,359 that's true. Well, well, if you just go into Google News, 367 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:33,799 and sometimes Google News has an entire page of nothing but articles about this, 368 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,799 and multiple articles are going into great detail. I it's easy just to use 369 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,039 it broader term, especially because we don't want anybody to say anything on air 370 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:47,000 that could upset anybody to say that it's it's pretty sadistic and pretty bad. 371 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,720 And you know, if you do have younger ones who are wrestling fans, 372 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,160 you might want to watch their news feeds because this is pretty bad. And 373 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,599 I know you wouldn't want your young ones reading about the things that he is 374 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:08,039 accused of doing. And it's like in I as I'm gonna say as just 375 00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:13,640 as a man, not even as a heterosexual male, just a man in 376 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:20,960 general. And I say heterosexual male because I date women and I may not 377 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:28,359 understand them, but I do understand how they should be treated. And as 378 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:40,920 a man, it's disgusting to me and it makes me ashamed too, at 379 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,200 the least be a man. And then secondly to be a pro wrestling fan. 380 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,599 Well, and let me just let me just say again for people who 381 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,680 don't know, if you haven't been paying attention, you know, Vince wash 382 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,920 he's been accused prior you know, the second harassment and pain, hush money 383 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,079 and and all kinds of things. But what what has come to light in 384 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:10,079 the past twenty four hours. Is is far beyond it's it's far beyond that. 385 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,559 I mean, I'll use a little bit of coded language, but you 386 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:19,759 know, if I if I say things like misconduct or assault or even criminal 387 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,000 or even yeah, either criminal level or or even or even the term trafficking. 388 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,119 Again, Uh, go ahead and assume some of the worst. It's 389 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,160 that bad, and it and it's and it's all. It's all very shocking, 390 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,079 and even assuming the worst, you're selling it short. Yeah, it's 391 00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:43,079 it's I'm I'm stunned. I'm I'm truly stunned. I want to I do 392 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:50,440 want to add, though, there are some text messages of evidence from McMahon 393 00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:58,000 to Janelle that are absolutely undeniable. Just yeah, undeniable the things that he 394 00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:07,000 uh says my cousin saying about those messages, Jenny and I said, you 395 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:16,159 know, in my college days, I I you know, you get into 396 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:22,360 the frat boy mentality. And I'm sorry to say, but this does exist 397 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,599 in our society a lot more than people realize it does. I'm not excusing 398 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:34,679 the behavior when I say frat boy mentality either, and I hope no one 399 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,719 thinks that I think that. Minimum don't get sucked into that, and I'm 400 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:45,480 like, I've said some things that when after I've sent the text or I've 401 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:53,079 said it, I cringe. I'm like, this is so bad that I 402 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:59,639 don't feel bad for the cringe stuff I've said. There. There is this 403 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:04,719 exist existence out there, and we've we've heard more stories over the last probably 404 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,920 six months of women being found chained to floors, women being found in boxes, 405 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440 hidden away. That element does exist in our society. And when it's 406 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:24,079 somebody like this who has so much power and so much public notoriety, it 407 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,159 it's uncovering some of the darkest parts of our society that have existed since mankind, 408 00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:37,400 and unfortunately that has it's that's just men usurping women, telling your that 409 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,920 happens. And when it's somebody like this is so powerful, he's and and 410 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,159 he's quoted as saying things to her in the very beginning, like I don't 411 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,000 want you to just be an employee. I want to I want you to 412 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:51,880 have a better life. Here, we should we should point out because you 413 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,800 mentioned the very beginning, Yes, the way this all started was apparently this 414 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,599 is a this is actually this is a yes, this is this is a 415 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:02,920 very important part of the story because apparently, and there's a pattern with him 416 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,880 too with this. Apparently she was down on her life. She's far from 417 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,119 the first woman to ever have a jugative. Yeah, she was down on 418 00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,639 her luck. She was struggling financially. She had parents who had just died. 419 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,239 She was their full caregiver. Yep. So she was homeless, so 420 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,599 she was well, she was living. Apparently she was living in an apartment 421 00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,679 building where Vince also rented an apartment, so she was Eventually he moved her 422 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:25,840 and gave her a place to live. She didn't have a place. He 423 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:32,000 und a luxury car. Yeah yeah, so yeah, so he he took 424 00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:35,920 advantage of her. So he would do things like when he was going to 425 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,159 be around her, he would be, you know, coming out of the 426 00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:40,760 shower and a towel, Oh, give me a hug, give me a 427 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,239 hug, Let me give you a kiss, doing things like this to slowly 428 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,400 groomer in, groomer in, and then you would you know, and then 429 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,039 go from there. And it happens in what they're talking about, and what 430 00:36:54,199 --> 00:37:00,480 happens in situations of abuse like this is called trauma bonding, where somebody is 431 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,280 groomed and traumatized in such a way that they feel entrapped and caged by the 432 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,039 other individual that they can't get out, that there is no way out, 433 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,840 and it's it's devastating, and it takes what little self esteem you might have 434 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,320 had left away and you become a puppet in that person's hands. I read 435 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,800 something in the Daily Mail articles and the Daily Mail probably was the most in 436 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:37,800 depth because they're in the United Kingdom and they don't fall under rules of what 437 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:45,159 you can't print, what you can't print like we do. One of the 438 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:53,440 one of the disturbing parts is that he paid for surgery, cosmetic surgery for 439 00:37:53,559 --> 00:38:02,159 her. Yeah, and it's not just it's the it's the bleeding up to 440 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,880 that. It's Oh, I want to get this for you. Oh this 441 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,000 would make that better. You know where they groom. He pushes her in, 442 00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,519 push her in, push her in. No, I'll cover everything, 443 00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,559 I got everything. Oh, you're going to be so beautiful with this. 444 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,239 It's not like, hey, I'm gonna get this for you. She just 445 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,360 jumps in. There's a process to this where that control takes over and she 446 00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:30,119 loses control of her own life and becomes a puppet into his hands. While 447 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:35,960 simultaneously purchasing her silence as well, exactly exactly, And he's done this numerous 448 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,719 there's this past. He has a history, a proven history. There's multiple 449 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,159 instances, incidents, excuse me, of him paying hush money to women. 450 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,119 And you know, I mean, this is it's not sadly, it's not 451 00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,280 a secret. And there have been other people implicated in this. Yeah, 452 00:38:53,320 --> 00:39:00,000 And it reminds me of the story years ago about the airplane the airplane story 453 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,800 that the airplane ride from Hell? Yep? Isn't that what it was called? 454 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,440 The plane ride from Hell? Yeah? Yeah, and that involved particular 455 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,639 wrestler that's coming back up again too, Rock Rock Lesner. Well, also, 456 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,079 let's look at the fact that I mean, I just recently watched the 457 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:21,519 Dark Side of the Ring episode on that and interesting, I watched that one 458 00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:30,760 too, Rick Flair. Let I mean borderline I mean, or, depending 459 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:37,519 on your opinion, at the very least, it was borderline sexual assault is 460 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:43,000 what he's accused of. You look at the guys that were fired from that 461 00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:47,679 plane ride. Rick Flair wasn't one of them. Rick Flair wasn't even fine. 462 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,599 This is no. Lesnar wasn't fine. The big, the big stass 463 00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:59,480 got to walk away with their little fun and games and suffer no consequences. 464 00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,440 Therefore be told, there's nothing wrong with that behavior, right. You know 465 00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:08,159 what I'm saying is that's the atmosphere that Vince perpetrate. I mean, let's 466 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,320 and it was acceptable, though. You got to put this in Put this 467 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,400 in the context of the era. Okay, it was acceptable for men to 468 00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:21,719 rule over women in the office space. That was normalized behavior. I used 469 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,639 to do agency work years ago, and I got sent to a lawyer's office 470 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,239 and I was supposed to answer his phone, you know, type any letters 471 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,480 he needed. And he called me into his office and had me come over 472 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,679 to his desk. He wanted to supposedly show me something, and then he 473 00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,800 proceeded to put his hand on my leg and started to rise it up, 474 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,519 to which I jumped aside, left, never went back, and got fired 475 00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,760 because I refused to go back. But it was normalized. I mean, 476 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,039 they were saying things to me like, oh, it's he's just he's just 477 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,480 he's just a little freshy, no big deal. You know, don't you 478 00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:53,639 want the job, don't you want money, don't you want to eat? 479 00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:59,760 I mean, that's what's over your head right control. Yeah, Well there's 480 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,239 a more broadly too. There's there's the element of uh, if you are 481 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,719 the more powerful you are, the less likely you are to face any accountability. 482 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,679 Right. So again with you know, the more the more powerful people 483 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,880 on the plane ride, the more important they were, the less likely they 484 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,519 were to face any sort of punishment for their behavior. I was disgusted to 485 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:22,320 hear about that when I heard about that with brock Lesner. Now that these 486 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,119 new allegations are coming out with him, it's even worse for me. And 487 00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,440 I'm wondering if that's why we really haven't seen him out there as much as 488 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,199 we were. You know, maybe they knew this was coming, so to 489 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:40,719 speak. He was supposed to return tonight. Well it happens, I would 490 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:46,440 assume it's not going to It's up in the air. They want um Jim 491 00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:50,280 back they brought they better not bring him in. I don't think that's going 492 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,360 to help them with any of their sponsors if they have any named individuals showing 493 00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:01,599 up on screen. I mean, the issue they run into the unfortunately, 494 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:10,760 and this is the evil business side of this. Brock Lesner's contract is fully 495 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:19,920 guaranteed, and what do you mean, I mean there's no outclause WWE has 496 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,719 about that. They don't have a behavior clause like they did with You don't 497 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,079 think there's some kind of behavior clause in there after all the things they've gone 498 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,280 through. I mean no, I mean, if they've never had one before, 499 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,559 I doubt they had one when they re signed him. I mean, 500 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:39,039 they were still under Vince's control when they resigned him. And I will say 501 00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:47,360 this about Brock Lesnar As of right now, it's only allege. There isn't 502 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:54,599 any proof that Brock did anything. There isn't any text messages from Brock or 503 00:42:54,639 --> 00:43:02,760 anything that I've seen. It's all secondhand accounting from Vince. And I mean, 504 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,159 I'm sure there's evidence if he's named, but the evidence hasn't been put 505 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:10,880 out there against him, is what I will say. Yeah, I think 506 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,199 he's referred to in documents as a former UFC champion. Evince was trying to 507 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:22,000 resign, so that that narrows it down pretty quickly. My prediction is we 508 00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,199 do not see him again. I don't think we see rock Lesser again. 509 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:31,519 I mean, I would agree with that, but again, that's just another 510 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:39,000 example of Vince hurting the business. Because now i mean, you're going to 511 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,559 at the very least because you're gonna owe him some money for doing absolutely nothing. 512 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:54,519 But what's really interesting about this is the victim Janelle Griant, sorry the 513 00:43:54,559 --> 00:44:01,840 alleged victim, because it's all allegations right now, is she said she was 514 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,039 promised three million on this NDA, but she only got one million of it 515 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:15,960 when all of this started. It was due to in the books, this 516 00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:24,360 was listed as a three million dollar NDA payout. My thing is, where's 517 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,880 the other two million? If you have three million listed as a payout, 518 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:37,920 where's the other two This is where Vince could be in some major legal issues 519 00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:45,800 if the FTC wants to get involved, because that was information given to shareholders. 520 00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:54,199 That's defrauding your shareholders. That is a white collar felony. Wasn't there 521 00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:00,159 some kind of investigation going on anyway with the FDC or the SEC or somebody 522 00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:09,360 launched an investigation headed by Stephanie McMahon Levac, which very interestingly enough, they 523 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:15,280 never contacted Janelle Graham. I know I read that. That was shocking to 524 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:22,880 me. Like Stephanie McMahon who got on her pedestal and they had the all 525 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:30,760 women's pay per view and said things like women have been marginalized in our sport 526 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,079 for so long, mainly by your father who had a woman get on all 527 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:44,039 fours in her undergarments and bark like a dog on national TV. But that's 528 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:52,199 in the past, and just put herself as a champion for women in pro 529 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:58,320 wrestling, and you know, and she was one of them that changed the 530 00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:05,400 women's tournament from the fabulous Mullah Invitational to the May Young Invitational because of the 531 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:14,400 allegations against Mulah. And it's like, Wow, what a load of crap. 532 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,880 If you cared so much about women's rights, Stephanie McMahon, if you 533 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:27,760 really cared as much as you say, the first phone call you would have 534 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:34,360 made while you were in charge of that investigation would have been to Janelle Grant 535 00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:40,239 or at the very least her legal representatives. You made none of the above 536 00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:49,440 you investigated, But to be fair, she did question her father and John 537 00:46:49,519 --> 00:47:00,360 Moronidis. Yeah. So yeah. Honestly, I think the only recourse for 538 00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:09,480 WWE and Endeavor is they got to cut ties with anyone that with Vince and 539 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:17,000 anyone that was attached to Vince during this time or came back when Vince did 540 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,360 his hostile takeover to come back right before the sale of the company. Well, 541 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,559 from what I've read, that's their plan, right Ari Emmanuel says, 542 00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:29,239 we're gonna We're gonna get rid of anybody who knew. Anybody who knew anything 543 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,199 about this. Anybody who was involved, you know at all, is out 544 00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,480 of here, is gone, which I think is what they should do. 545 00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:39,519 You know, any anybody who knew about it and kept their mouth shut, 546 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:44,639 and and you know they they should be gone. Get rid of them, 547 00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:50,719 get them out of there. Absolutely agree this. This is disgusting stuff. 548 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:58,559 And this is if you look into the history of the wwe WWF and I 549 00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:04,440 don't mean the company with the pay and the bear right, there's a history 550 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,719 of this stuff, not just with Vince, but with Vince's underlings. Pat 551 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:19,760 Patterson for many years has been accused of sexually harassing male wrestlers, male ring 552 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:25,719 attendant, the Ring Boys scandal. Yep, nothing ever happened. Fabulous Mulah, 553 00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:34,119 who Vince loved a death, accused of heinous things. There's a dark 554 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:39,400 side to the ring about things she did to these women that were absolutely horrible 555 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:47,280 and detestable. This is not one man, This is a culture and when 556 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:54,519 it's a culture, you gotta tear out the foundation, bulldoze the house and 557 00:48:54,599 --> 00:49:00,519 rebuild it. And I'm sorry if you know there's some big name guys that 558 00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:07,039 are involved in WWE right now. Uh, Paul Levec formerly known as Triple 559 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:14,639 H. If he knew of any of this, gone, Sean Michaels hbk 560 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:21,360 runs NXT. If he knew of this, he's gone. Undertaker who's a 561 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:30,400 brand ambassador. He knew about this, Kick Rocks dead Man. I hope, 562 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:34,360 yes, I hope none of those guys knew anything about him. Nick 563 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:40,239 Con. I think Nick CON's gone. Really, Nick Kahn, as Vince's 564 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:46,360 right hand man for many, many, many many years, being groomed to 565 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:54,599 take over for Vince, didn't know any of this. There's absolutely no way 566 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:01,000 with knowing that. How close Vince McMahon keeps his inner circle, there is 567 00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:07,800 no way that this is Nick Con had no idea, right. I don't 568 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,159 know how much he knew, but if he knew it was going If you 569 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,920 knew it was going on and you said nothing, you're complicit in the act. 570 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,559 I agree with you there. I agree with you there. This is 571 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,960 awful, it's horrible, and it's reprehensible. And what sucks to me the 572 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:37,599 most is that this is the worst that's going to happen to Vins because of 573 00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:44,360 this, if we go back in the annals of history, the pain and 574 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,719 suffering he has caused. And I said this in a private chat to both 575 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:53,840 you and Jenny and a couple others. You know, the families of the 576 00:50:53,880 --> 00:51:06,719 family of Owen Heart, Nancy Argent, who Jimmy Superfly Snooker murdered Invins allegedly 577 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:17,280 more than likely bribed law enforcement in Allentown, Pennsylvania to keep it under wraps. 578 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,599 On down the line, Vern Gania, Sam Munchick, the lives he 579 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:30,800 ruined, superstar Billy Graham, the bodies of the wrestlers whose blood, broken 580 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:38,960 bones, damaged joints that his billion dollar empire was built on. They're sitting 581 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,119 there and I can only imagine they're saying, it sucks what he did. 582 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:52,159 But what have we been telling you? Uh uh interesting, Yeah, what 583 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,760 have been saying? Look at what this man did to me, Look at 584 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:02,719 what he did to my life. Look like this is a pattern of abuse, 585 00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:07,400 not just on females. And I am not trivializing what he did here, 586 00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:12,920 No, God, no, we're all horrified. But you look at 587 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,880 it, at the abuse of his employees that he put through. You're hurt. 588 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,280 Here, here's some pills, go out and do your job right. 589 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:30,440 Well, I'm sorry, go ahead, Eric. It's just it's sad that 590 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:39,920 it's took this woman to go through the absolute horrors she went through for people 591 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:50,719 to finally realize what a degenerate, egomaniacal, scumbag, detestable human being Vincent 592 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:57,000 Kennedy McMahon really is. Yeah, absolutely, no, it is. It's 593 00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,480 it's quite shocking, and it's it's just awful. Well, Eric, we 594 00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:02,960 uh, we gotta start to wrap up. We're gonna be crossing into the 595 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,119 second hour. We've got a great band coming in after the winter. But 596 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,920 uh, but I appreciate you joining us this morning to talk about this. 597 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,480 You know, it really is uh And I I really, Jenny, I 598 00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:21,480 want to thank you for adding, you know, a personal element to it, 599 00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,360 because you know, I don't know if you picked up on this. 600 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:32,280 I am a guy. Really, yeah, I can't give the female perspective 601 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,480 on it, no, So yeah, I mean, I I really think, 602 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,480 I mean, I think it's a discussion that could go any longer and 603 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,960 I really it is some things that aren't for morning radio. Oh some of 604 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,199 these details, I mean, this isn't for Matt Connorton unsheathed. Oh yeah, 605 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,199 like like like I said earlier, if you you know, if you 606 00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,360 want to know the details, or if you're or I should say this too, 607 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,199 for anyone who's hearing this and just and thinking that it's you know, 608 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,320 just more sexual harassing there and agree with whatever I mean. I mean, 609 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:15,000 that's uh, that's I will personally invite any of the listeners to direct message 610 00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:20,400 me and I can send them the Daily Mail articles. Yeah. No, 611 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,079 what what I what I wanted to say is for anyone who's just kind of 612 00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:27,159 assuming that you know, this is more just more of the same that has 613 00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:30,199 already come out, it's uh, which was bad enough, No, this 614 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:36,320 is this is far worse. To really understand the evil that Vince was involved 615 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,039 in, you've gotta you've you've got to see, uh, you've got to 616 00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:40,239 read these articles. Like I said, you know, this was this would 617 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,199 this is not the appropriate place to get into the details of that. But 618 00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,440 but but if you're but for anyone who's doubting or sort of downplaying it in 619 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,039 your own mind or or even if you've got like an old school sort of 620 00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,280 uh, you know, misogynistic, Oh, boys will be boys type of 621 00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:01,079 Look look look into this and you'll you'll rea aize pretty quickly. This is 622 00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:06,159 this is really really bad. And all of this has come out within the 623 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,599 last like forty eight hours or so publicly, like I mean, it was. 624 00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:14,119 It's beyond shocking, it's disgusting, it's evil, it's cool, it's 625 00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:19,719 statist. It's shocking as heck that this is what's been going on all these 626 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,599 years. I just thought of this, and what disturbs me the most is 627 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:32,440 that this will eventually go away. Now, Janelle Grant will get money out 628 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:43,079 of this, but definitely non dollar amount that can redeem her mental redeem her 629 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:50,800 mental state, yeah, redeem her feeling of self self worth, redeem what 630 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:58,840 Vince McMahon allegedly took away from her. Yep, they're just therapy, I 631 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:04,559 mean, amberenda. A lot of credit goes out to her to have the 632 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,800 courage to say, exactly, Jenny, to say, you know what, 633 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,079 No, there's gonna be good that comes out of this, because what I'm 634 00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:22,039 gonna do is I'm going to help people in the same position she has said 635 00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:25,440 that that. That's oh absolutely, there's a really great article about her saying 636 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,599 that and trying to make a space for other women to come forward. I 637 00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:36,400 mean she's given details and things that people have suffered through similar types of things 638 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,280 but never talked about it publicly. She's opening that door and starting those discussions. 639 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,639 And that's where we've got to begin to make things like this stop, 640 00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:51,199 right, And I mean where it all starts is Matt, you hit it 641 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,440 on the head. We got to get rid of the old boy's mentality. 642 00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:01,039 Yep, in every aspect of society. Yes, very much. So it's 643 00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:07,559 getting there. We're getting there. We can't. Boys will be boys is 644 00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:15,519 no more when it comes to this. That's that's what got Janelle Janelle Grant 645 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:20,039 there in the first place. Is so many people say, no, it's 646 00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:28,320 Vince being Vince. Well yeah again, tell that to Janelle Grant in his 647 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:37,239 litany of other victims, both of uh sexual misdeeds and other misdeeds. Right, 648 00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,360 all right, we gotta we gotta go. Eric. Thank you so 649 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,880 much, my friend, and we look forward to your film review next week. 650 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:49,440 Yes, yes, I look forward to doing it, and thank you 651 00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:53,159 for having me. Matt. Nice discussing with you and Jenny as always. 652 00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:58,320 Oh, thank you, We appreciate you, my friend. Have a good 653 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,480 day, guys, all right, Eric to take care, Bye bye. 654 00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,480 All right. That was our friend Derek Pilcher is After the Winter. I 655 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,880 assume they're in the building, all right, So we're so we're gonna take 656 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,599 a break. We're gonna play this track Breadcrumbs, that I think we had 657 00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:15,119 featured the last time they're here. We're gonna save the news single for when 658 00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:16,519 they're when they're in the room with us, and we'll give that a listen. 659 00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:19,360 But we're gonna take a break. We're gonna play this track. We're 660 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,119 gonna show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we'll be back with 661 00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:28,320 our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connerton Unleashed here w M n H 662 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,440 ninety five point three f M. After the Winter is next.